Tomorrow - 184: Porch Pirates in the Cube

Episode Date: January 18, 2020

This week Josh and Ryan are joined by editors from Input including Evan Rodger, Cheyenne MacDonald, and Raymond Wong to discuss the growing trends of Porch Pirates, parachute pants, and poaching planets. The local news energy on this episode is through the roof. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to Tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Wittipolsky. Today on the podcast we discuss acoin the cube and porch pirates. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. All right Ryan, we're back. We're back in New York. Look at us. It's no longer a C.S. time. Thank God. It's regular time. For regular time. It's Look at us. It's no longer a C.S. time. Thank God. It's regular time for regular time. It's Miller light time actually according to what I'm seeing in front of me now as you know, I'm I'm not drinking. I've had For sweet days off the sauce and I feel a clarity that I've never known before I'm like me. Oh when he he can see bullet time or whatever,

when he could like see the code and the matrix. Yeah. That's like me now getting like eight hours of sleep a night and not drinking. Well, even though we're back here on regular time and you're seeing through the matrix and to the other side of the moon, we have a new element. Well, we're trying something new here

that we think everybody's gonna really like. And if they don't like it, Tony, you can send us an email, you can send us a hate mail. You send me a Twitter DM We brought in some of the editors for input just to be on the show We are bringing in the editors of the website input not all of them, but a select hand for you We had black material on no, we're here and and and Ryan do you want to explain what we're how we're gonna? How we're gonna, how we're gonna introduce them? Yeah, I didn't want to do my job anywhere, so I just made them bring us stories.

Ryan's like, listen, it's really hard to make that list of things to talk about every week. So instead, I'm gonna make actual human beings with lives and precious time and full-time jobs be a part of this. Anyhow, no, but it's a very exciting new vista. Windows, this. My favorite version of this. Anyhow, no, but it's a very exciting new Vista. Windows. My favorite version of Windows. It's an exciting new Vista where we get to interact with people that we work with, but also like

and talk about the weekend news. I'm very, I need to start drinking. Yeah. I think you can tell. I think you might be a little too clear. I think you can tell that I'm like, I'm very low power because I'm not, my, my, my blood is not like 45% French 75. So you know, it's an issue. So would you like to introduce our panel? Sure. Well, let's start with the newbie.

Who hasn't been on the show yet? Here's Cheyenne. Hi. Cheyenne made it abundantly clear that she doesn't like being on podcasts. Yes, I did. I said it a lot. I would say it's clear to me that Cheyenne does not want to be on this podcast. No, it's fine

I'm just news editing you know, oh, you're doing a post right now Well, several okay great. Well that's Cheyenne McDonald who will never return to the podcast All right, who else do we have here? Who's this? There's this youngster over here. We've got Evan Rogers. He's been on the show I'm returning Evan Rogers who literally just had a birthday not so young anymore really When I think about that. That is true. You're an old man. Trust me, I feel it.

We're there in a way. After CS, we're all. We're all through the ring. I mean, Evan was actually got deathly ill at CS. Bad. Like dad. We're like, where's Evan? We had her from her day.

We're like, we think Evan might actually have, he's like the body they got. But I was in the fountain or something. You completely disappeared. And then when we did find you, you were at the top of a mountain. Yeah, you went on a hike. You did like a physical feat. Dude, I sounded gross.

Let me just tell you, that's Goliath. In your defense, or no, sorry, in defense of what they're saying, yeah, they're in their defense. Yeah. You did go for a hike. And that might have been the problem. Both times. I went on a hike twice. Twice, back to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Well,

it was like, you say I'm what's your sickness in between high. Right. Wow. That's not important. No. That's not what is important. That we're also joined by Raymond Huang. Hi. What's up, right? Returning guests. I'm going to bring the rage. You may say, are you sorry? Rage is a concept. We all, we who came up with rage? The Y. It's R-A-Y-G. It's R-A-Y-G.

Very important. Ray is a very, let me think of the right. Ray has two modes, which is rage and rage. You have a baby Yoda mode. Yeah. What is that mode? Where he doesn't say anything? No, it's where he sees a proddo.

I can get super happy about it. He reaches out to the baby Yoda. I'm never seeing that. I've never seen that. I've only seen the rage to be honest with you. I'm like, Ray, you're going to go to a actual fist fight on the show floor of CS. No, I like it. It looks Ray is an aggressive, in a good way, aggressive,

go getter, who knows what he wants and takes it. I jump in fish, thanks. He'll jump in a fish. aggressive go getter who knows what he wants and takes it. And then great. I don't know fish. Thanks. They'll jump into the. I mean, you brought. We've seen more of Ray on the website than probably any other person because he's with did a lot of physical shit. Yeah, he's like a throw his body through the

play like like, like, like, that's right. That's right. Anyhow, so that's the crew we have today. This is the panel of people we have assembled from the website in put mag dot com. In put back dot com check it out. It's got a lot of great info, a lot of great news. Big story about Elon Musk on the front page right now.

I said I got to do an auction for some reason. Big story about Elon Musk, watching Tesla's lifestyle brand. Mr. Fart seed himself. Mr. Mr. Maryachie band slash weird dad. Elon Musk, anyhow, there's a lot of great stuff on input bag.com. Check it out, to come it up later. I don't know what's happening with my voice right now.

What's up guys? Okay, so in order to facilitate this discussion, I had each of you bring us a story from input mag.com that you would like to discuss in a little more detail, a little less website friendly discussion, a little less, a little less website friendly, a little more podcast. Oh, I see what you're saying. You want to take, you want to take it into a podcast.

You want to switch our modality here. Yeah, yeah, you want mode switch. That's right. You want a time dynamic audio. You want to, you want to, time, what is it called when it's like you can watch a show at any time, it's called time shift, time shift, and mode switch. That's right, which I'm into. like you can watch a show at any time. It's called time shift. Oh, time shift and mode switch. That's right, which I'm into.

There's also a great club to check out. Two great clubs. Yeah, time shift is downstairs and then mode switch upstairs for things to get fucking weird. Okay, anyway, shift is back. All right, listen, look, Tony is hard enough of this. He wants us to move on to the real stuff. You want to hear the hard news?

Let's get to the meat here. Let's stop fooling around with the side dishes and the no more carbs, okay? We don't need to have salad. All right, let's get into the news because frankly, I need to start talking about something other than my not drinking around. I know like steal somebody's Miller light and shug it

and shotgun it. Shion, what is your story? What do you want to talk about? Okay, my story is Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO, being like, we're gonna go to space and move all of our heavy industry off Earth. We are gonna pollute the shit out of other planets. Earth is the only good one.

We don't care about space. I worry about this because I'm like, whoa, let's not act like we have backup earths. Let's like treat the one love the one you're with. Well, I mean, it is, I mean, Jeff Bezos is a smart guy, right? Maybe. He's just like got a lot of smart people around him. No, he's, I think he's actually, I mean, yeah, he's, he's probably got

to listen. When I, Jeff and I spoke, he struck me as very intelligent. And as, you know, when we have our two's day call, no, but, so he must suspect that we're gonna have enough planets that we can, you know, dump trash onto him. But it is a weird, just, we haven't gotten to one yet. Not yet, but he's always thinking about, you know, what drop shipment he can make tomorrow.

This is a classic lady Ebochi situation. Oh, what? From the movie Princess Mona Nookin. Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I'm with you. Listen, you know what I'm talking about. Lady Ebochi is a critical character because she is like the representation of man and she's just like, there's resources here.

And why is she in? We're gonna take it. Yeah, yeah. It's my eminent domain. Like why is she like the man of the movie. She really is. Exactly. Like the Jeff Bezos of the movie.

Yeah, the capital of the man. Yeah, she really presents like a question of like if it's within our power, why should we not do it? Right. And anyway, you should watch the movie. I mean, that's a great, I think that's a great question that Jeff Bezos is pondering on a regular basis. But, but how, I mean, how are we going to get what I want

to know is does he have a plan that he articulated plan to to get any of the garbage off of? Well, I mean, he in the past has they blew origin showed off their like lunar lander and may or something like that. And he's obviously got his his rocket. I don't remember if it's new shepherd or new Glenn one of those. Both those names are extremely look at the rocket. I don't remember if it's new shepherd or new Glenn one of those. Well, both of those names are extremely. Look at the rocket. It's also ridiculously phallic, which is like it's disgusting. Yeah, I can't think of wrecked penis. Yes, yes, that's the one. That's a great one. That's why I fear a rock. But my issue. A rocket does let's say in defense of that rocket. No, no, no, no, no, naturally quite phallic. No, look at other rocket. I have to be look at other rockets and then look at Blue Origin's rocket. It is it. Everyone knows. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It then look at Blue Origin's rocket. Everyone knows.

It is a thing that we invented. The only thing that can fly into space is like a giant erect penis. It's like, somehow, like, why is it not a sphere? Why is it not a blue? I mean, you know, like a V-shaped person. It has this kind of. Aerodynamics and all.

But this particular one is like next level, sorry. But my issue, I mean, I've got a lot of issues with this, but, you know, he talks a lot about like, you know, we're ruining the planet and things are getting kind of bad here and we're depleting our resources. So like down the line, we're really gonna need this and it's like all this like save the human race type BS. But like, you know, he's running a company

that contributes a lot to the issues we have here. Isn't this the plot of Avatar? Isn't that why they're clearing Pandora? Aren't they like, and I'm making a huge deal? It is very Avatar-esque. And like, his solutions are very interstellar, like, literally that concept of like, we're gonna have this like, rotating hub that we live in and it's like a beautiful oasis. And he's talking about making Earth a garden again, which like Earth was a garden before we ruined it. He was.

But also it's like, do you care about humans? It does seem like it. You're fucking employees, P and bottles. I don't think that's the intent. It should be like the Bronx Zoo. That's just like, well, exactly. Well, well, you know, at one point, the entire Earth was like the Bronx Zoo.

It's just a mentality that is very much back to the Princess of Madan, okay? It's like this was put here for us to use it and it's almost tapped. So maybe now we'll let it regrow a little bit and we'll just like, you know, put that somewhere else. He needs to look at earth with eyes uncluttered by hate. He needs to watch more anime. That's right.

That's not like something from the film Princess Madan. It is. We wouldn't be here if hate he needs to watch more anime. That's right That's not like so be it's from the film Princess Bonanette We wouldn't be here if all these tech giants watched more anime, you know, but not in a way that's like super Performative like oh, I went on and I watched your name. We don't need tech CEOs to be watching more anime Yeah, we don't need any we honestly like you like us. Yeah, cuz it's like it's yeah recently I hate to say it but but anime is a gateway drug to like gamer gate and and like Joe Rogan I could take a Not all right. Hey not hey hashtag You're talking about Hentai

Well, and the man is a gateway to Hentai. Okay. That's true. That is Never game. Okay, well, which is a gateway to, you know, the farthest thing that Jack Dorsey thinks he is L. Okay, yeah. I don't think Jack, honestly, I don't think Jack Dorsey watches anime. Jack Dorsey definitely doesn't watch anime, but he definitely likes to listen to people talk about anime and pretend he really knows.

He's like, he's always like, Jack Dorsey's always like, he a group of his engineers saying about some anime and he walks by and he's like, oh yeah, I love that one. Yeah, exactly. And he like does that weird little nod. And then you always like, he's like, Jack Joyce, he's always like, a group of his engineers saying about Samantha Man and he walks by and he's like, oh, yeah, I love that one. Yeah, exactly. And he like does that weird little nod. And then you're like, yeah, yeah, that one is totally great characterizations.

Speaking of, sorry, not to get off topic here, I want to get stay on top. I want to stay on Jeff Bezos for a second. All right. It's interesting to think about, you know, in the great American classic film, independent stay. Such a Independence Day. It's such a great movie. Once they discover they discover the you know origin of story of the aliens. It during the famous scene where Brent Spiner is a is strangled and then made to

talk like a puppet by the alien that will Smith punches out in the deserts of California. This is all something really happens by the way in the movie. And it the great scene where, you know, the aliens got his tentacle around Brent Spiner's throat data from Star Trek and Next Generation in case you don't know his work. And he's like, you working his like, Lairnix or something to make him talk.

Anyhow, then, you know. He says, choke me daddy. Yeah, work that. Lairnix. So, we're gonna go back to Lairnix. Bill Pullman is like president, Bill Pullman.man is like, what do you want from him? You know, he's like, oh, he's like, they're showing me what their species does.

And it's like, you know, they go from planet to planet, harnessing and sucking up all the natural resources, leaving it a husk and then moving on to the next one. It makes you wonder if. Jeff, he's like, I could do that. Like I can't speak. That husk right there. We can keep it a blue origin

A day's like listen, I have a plan. We're gonna go from planet to planet harvesting the resources Yes, I saw this and you guys seen this I saw this documentary that It's a terrific film. I recommend everybody watches it No, but like maybe maybe when what would be cool is to think about like maybe the aliens are really just a super Evolved version of a Jeff Bezos. Has anybody here seen Jupiter ascending? No. Great. So good.

Well, the plot of Jupiter ascending is that horrible. But no, it's actually really a very excellent, horrible movie. It's like so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad that it's good, but it's also like I feel like Kunis. It's also a sign they could, yes, me. It's extremely Fifth Element. It's like Fifth Element.'s also like, I feel like Kunis, it's also a sign that could, yes, me, it's extremely fifth element. It's like, it's like the fifth element, like, it's like the tenth

element. That also concerns the concept of like, all planets being harvested, although they're also planets that are basically like, it's very capitalism. Very well, very well, but obviously he's going to go for the whole capitalism thing. Yeah, so maybe that's my issue here. Maybe yeah What is your story? So I wrote a story this week about my favorite gadget of CES, which was not a CES gadget rather Twist It was my out over here. Yes. I haven't seen it. No spoilers. Wow, but I assume there's a twist So I don't know anyway, the available screener view knower view. No, have you spit or wow? Okay. Anyways, a bit towards service

Fair enough. Okay. Anyway, so my story was about My phone the aces Zenphone 6. I just want to make sure I really get that into my account there time The aces Zen phone also the F in phone is an F and capitalize. I love Zen phone That's right. That's right. I'll never forget when I bought the Aces e-book. Oh, which is an A-book. I actually just found a stack of gadgets

when we were looking through my gadget collection. Yeah, we were digging through the old pile. Yeah, and there's an e-book that I put Linux on, which is great. Oh, let's use this. And Josh was like, oh shit, let's not. Yeah, it's a little white one. For it's like first gen. Oh god. I go ahead. Well, man let's use this. And Josh was like, oh shit, that's not. He's still a little white one. For it's like first gen.

Oh god. I go ahead. Well, man, so like this phone, right? Like, it really did me good at CES because, I mean, the battery life is really good. It has a 5,000 milliamp. It's like a thick phone. Like, without a case, it's nine and like a,

and some change. There, millimeter. Thick with two C's, not three C's, not that thick, but it's pretty thick. It's thick. But the battery life is really like truly insane. And they took this thing to like, they had like a, so basically the backstory is like the,

the Aces is CEO step down. And Aces has been really killing it for a long time and things like motherboards, you know, gaming PCs, that sort of thing. Every time I have to buy something random, it ends up being an ACIS- Oh, that's absolutely. And I'm satisfied.

And it's fine, yeah. And so they're generally fine. And the world of tech products, ACIS will make you a thing that works, for sure. Yes, they will. For phones though, they really like chase this old idea down where it's like, okay, well, Apple's in the high end. So they went high, we'll go low,

classic situation, and they didn't do a good job. They did a terrible job. They made very horrible Android phones. When they go high, we go low. Exactly. And so eventually the CEO stepped down and then somebody else came in and was like, hey, you know, how we make like premium gaming PC shit? What if instead of making horrible garbage phones, we made like good phones? And then immediately the aces, rock phone two and the Zen phone six came out and they're kind of like really good. Anyway, and so that's a real, it's a real like a Cinderella story because they had like a busted Android nine version when it first came out and now they've got like they like past it or they like came out with like 10 updates for Android nine. They updated to Android 10 two updates later,

like two months later, and it's like, it's really like getting somewhere. But you really enjoyed the flippy floppy camera. Oh man, the flippy floppy camera. Okay, so the camera, is the camera any good? Yeah, the camera is good. It's kind of the camera works in case someone doesn't pop through the screen.

Okay, so the gimmick of the Zenfone 6, which is a great gimmick, is that the rear primary camera and the wide angle camera are on a like motorized flap. They will. Wow. Wow. It's never seen that again.

It's like a tab. It's like a tab. It's like a tab. It's like a tab. Yeah, the flip-spring is a tab. It's a flap. Every time you want to take a selfie, the phone gives you the finger.

And at the end of the finger is a camera. I love it. That's right. I just gave you a finger. It's a lot like it's a lot like what one plus does with the Yeah, the motorized like selfie. But instead of but instead of flipping a good camera out, it flips a shitty camera. But it also is like it won't it won't but it's

you can't do something where like you take a picture of yourself and something else, right? Which is like, So here's the thing. It uses like the the not only is this camera on a motorized, like thing of a jig. Yeah, yeah. And on our lab, yeah. It's also an IAMX,

Asoni IAMX 586 48 megapixel half inch sensor. Classic. Which is like a third of an inch bigger than any other sensor. Is it any good? It's all about the soft, I mean, I mean, next to an iPhone, next to about the software. I mean, I mean, I'm not gonna pass this thing. Next to an iPhone, next to a Pixel 3. I mean, it's comparable.

The Pixel 3 is not a high bar to reach at this point. No, the Pixel 3 XL is an excellent camera. It's fine, it's fine. Can it match Nightside? So here's what it can't do. It can't match the iPhone on video. Unfortunately. Well, the Pixel can't do that either.

It's a poor thing. It's a poor thing. It's a poor thing. You know, he's an Android hardcore Android. Yeah. Right. But when he saw the iPhone video performance, I was like, damn, that's good. Yeah, it is really good. Damn good. Yeah. But you should maybe you should get one.

Well, it's actually twice as much money. Yes, this info and six. So what? You used to, but you have how many Android phones do you own? Several. Yeah. Like get off. I'm not trying to push you the iPhone because I personally hate it. But me by one iPhone, although I have, You have how many Android phones do you own? Several? Yeah. Like get off your list. I'm not trying to push you the iPhone

because I personally hate it. But it means I won iPhone. Although I have become an iPad guy recently, which we can talk about. We can talk about that. We can talk about that. What? No, that's my new thing.

Well, here's the thing. Let me just summarize this really quick. I know we have other things to get on to. Which is that like, if you need, one of the, like the major thrust of this article that I put up is that like if you need Specs and you need features and you need all sorts of like it has it'll do dulcim if you plus Specs, what does it need? You need some features just

You need any features you want features you got a tech specs compare page that was all the rage in 2006 That's right, and you're like Jack. You go, you hit phone or ring the bell. Exactly. You're gonna see that. You're gonna come back. Exactly. You're gonna go sign or ring the bell. Do you know how to sign or ring the bell?

Do you know how to sign or ring the bell? Do you know how to sign or ring the bell? Do you know how to sign or ring the bell? Do you know how to sign or ring the bell? Exactly. You're gonna see that. You're gonna come back. Exactly.

You're gonna come back. Exactly. You're gonna come back. Exactly. You're gonna come back. Exactly. You're gonna come back. You're gonna come back. Exactly. You're gonna come back. While I was here first, I was like rocking out in the super long battery life with Dual Sims while I had a 400 gig micro SD card like I was like sucking pictures off of my camera uploading them uploading right?

You were sucking them first time! Where's that rage I've seen? You were sucking off pictures? Which I say yes I was. You were sucking the flap on the thick boy. Those were some handsome pictures. Okay, those were some handsome pictures. Okay, those were good, lucky pictures. That's right.

So you're saying that you're saying that the thing was crushing is what you're saying. So battery life is good, unbelievably good. Your camera is good. It's good. No, video's not. It's okay. One plus has the same sensor, but oh, yes.

Did you see a lot of stuff on the floor with that camera? Yeah, I will say Evan was rocking and rolling around with that phone. Yeah, you definitely have it on the show point. Like type in a flip it. Yes, with that phone. You did your thing. Type it in flip it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it's like a going ballistic. Okay, well Evan, that's a wonderful tale. Thank you. And I gotta say, you do make me the way you tell it. You make me want to check out these and phone. I don't think that I can set a barrier. I have, no, I have, I have, I have a bad guy.

So he's like, Dude, I have so many phones, you know, man, I have so many Android phones. Here's my problem with Android phones. And I've talked about this in the podcast many times. You know, you get the new Android phone, you like set it up, you're getting your launcher on there, you're getting your fucking weird little apps you use

to customize it, you know. You're like downloading fonts and icon packs or whatever the fuck. You don't get all your apps set up, you're getting your launcher on there, you're getting your fucking weird little apps you use to customize it. You know, you're like downloading fonts and icon packs and whatever the fuck, you don't get all your apps set up, you get your Twitter password in there, you're like, this down, I'm gonna fucking get, I'm gonna fucking take it. You're out of business. Man, I'm like, I'm gonna fucking, this is my one-shot. I don't need anything else, I gotta fucking, I mean, you're speaking my language. I gotta speak every time. I gotta turbo graphics emulator on here, I'm fucking like this is my whole world is in this phone.

And then it's like, and then it's like, it's like you open G-Mounts, like yeah, it's just another Android phone. It's Android, you know, it's the same, it's the fucking Galaxy Note, which I have. It went down. Until you flip that, flip that flap. Yeah, and take a selfie with the full power of your back camera.

So they fucked up, their campaign should have been. Flip that, flip that been. Flip that flap. Flip that flap. Flip that big boy flap. Flip that flap. Somebody cut Josh a check. Wait, no, it's Evan. Are you saying?

I'm saying. Oh, I'm here. Here we go. Are you saying the problem with Android is that it makes you a promise that you're going to be a power user? Whereas the iPhone is like, I'm just another iPhone. No, no, no, no. No, the difference is it's like, I'm always excited. Like, I'm like, this one

is going to be the game. It's going to be different. Josh is like, I want to have the same phone as Pete Buttigieg. Yes. I want to be the same phone as Pete Buttigieg, which is the Galaxy Note 10. By the way, go to inputmag.com and see all the phones that Josh thinks the different presidential candidate. Well, I was a team I've got a lot of argument there. I did. I think the final judge of the whole I don't think any biggie tonight those choices are 100% medically accurate. Okay. Yeah, anyhow the go check it out What it's the what Ryan is referencing is the great card story that we did yesterday, which is what phone is every presidential candidate? And I think it's great. I don't think you're going to love it and enjoy it. And we should reprimand it actually

now that I think it's true. It'll be linked in the show notes of this podcast. It's never too late for now. Anyhow, so what I'm saying is what the Android phone is, it could be, it's sometimes or often it's like kind of a new experience and that phone has some new features, it's got a flap or whatever. Flip that flap. When you get a new iPhone, you're like, it's like kind of a new experience and that phone has some new features, it's got a flap or whatever, flip that flap. When you get a new iPhone, you're like, it's like, do you wanna restore your iCloud backup or whatever, and I'm like, yep, and then it's like literally the same phone

in every way, shape and form, and there are no customization options. Now, there's no impact. It becomes out of the new feature. You have to work pretty hard to go find it. Or it'll take something away away like 3d touch or whatever Yeah, I guess I'm not gonna use that anymore. I guess I won't use the things that I wasn't using already But the point is so yeah, it's just a different experience and any as you know

I have not been an iPhone user but for very recently. Yeah Because your family said they would literally shoot you in the face. That's right But if you didn't get I miss you will kill you and leave your body in a shallow grave. Yep. Unless you switch to iOS. And now I'm an iPad guy. So it's great. All right. Ray, tell us about your story of the week. My story is not written by myself. Okay. That's fine. That's that's 100% I hate the term hate the term porch pirate pirates. Pirates. Pirates are people who steal Amazon Packages off people's borders. Well, they can steal all kinds of packages though. They can sell an alley express package Overstock dot com. Wow overstock what pill pack get pill pack they could steal a Target delivery, you know

Here in the city on shineers got something same day big box and nuts duck That's not even a website. That's a real website. You know, there's a place up. Sherries berries. There's a there's a not a not distributor up right now called Bobby Su's nuts. It's like Bobby Su's not really. No, it is Bobby Su's nuts. It's like Bobby Su's you know, it's a postrophe. Yeah, so it's like Bobby Seuss nuts. And also these are her nuts. Yeah, it's a play on words. It's what they word a double-entering. You have to do that business.

That's true. Yeah, that's true. Because what else do you do? Everyone else is going to make a joke. Well, I was going to say that in my old building, in my old apartment, all of my packages used to get stolen like every single time to the point that Amazon is a whole new pirate.

What kind of pirate is that? Yeah, that's what they are. Yeah, like what do you do? We don't have porches. Well, the Amazon excuse me of trying to scam them. And I was like, but I ordered like $1,000 of the things and the only things I complained about are the ones they go, what do you mean they, what do you mean they?

They're black yes you. If you try and do, if you try and claim too many thefts, they will black this you for like, I'm like, I'm starting on the, what do you mean that they, in what form did that feedback come? Like I go on Amazon chat and I'm like, let's you feel like. I'm getting out of it. What do you mean that they, in what form did that feedback come? Like, I go on Amazon chat and I'm like, hey, my package got stolen. I need a replacement.

It's a guaranteed delivery and I never got it. And they eventually, they were like, you have to file police reports and then they were like, you're scamming us. And I was like, I am not scamming you. I live in New York City. You're not scamming you? I live in New York City and I would put,

that they would have to do signature delivery and they wouldn't do it. So then my package would get on Right. Anyway, long story short too late. I was really sick of that and eventually I found that the people stealing my packages had gotten real Comfortable with knowing what was gonna come so when I would get PR things of books or whatever They would leave the books and only take the stuff like on the whole on the off-chance. It was like a TV or something And so I would come home to all the packages they didn't want. Or there.

You know what happens when you start doing this putting like they need to label their packages differently. Like you need to say like don't lie like when you order porn. Like you put like like for real though. The Amazon just put like live rats on the package like bedbugs. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Like like you knowugs.com. Yeah, so. Yeah, right. Like, like, you know, like, or ankle back band club tape. Right. Adam and Eve.com deliveries will come in Amazon packages. And my Amazon packs just look up and Adam and Eve.com. I mean, I want, I want to

like to know about the part of it with bad drafts. Well, let's talk about these so called porch pirates. Is, um, do they, is, I mean, obviously, I'm sure they're stealing a lot of Amazon packages because there are a lot of

Amazon packages, but I wonder if they're like, yeah, we can, there's like an Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve say Adam and Eve on the package. No, because there are a lot of Amazon packages. But I wonder if they're like, yeah, we give there's like an Adam and Eve. Does Adam and Eve say Adam and Eve on the package? No, it's just a real package. Yeah, discreet package. Of course, it's an end. Is it discreet packaging?

It's like discreet packaging ink. Is that a real package? The box has got real shifty eyes on it. Yeah. Wait, Ray, tell us some details about this porch. Yes, please. So I mean, I found the story just fascinating just because some of the research that is behind it.

So like, you know, first of all, like, I didn't realize, I guess the data shows a little bit that 51% of women steal packages. So there are 51% of the, oh my god. 51% of the, of the, of the, I know you're still packages. What an average human. All right. 1% of the, of the fees. Oh, man, man. No, it's great. This is great. No, and I thought, oh, that's, but yeah, but it's still like, I mean, it's actually- Josh, how many packages has your wife stolen? I mean, one out of every two packages. That's a loaded crash.

Wait, you're telling me Laura was in my pocket, stealing all my bag. But it is, it is very, it is sort of like, I mean, I had a lot of friends when I was growing up who were girls who were like casual shop lifters. This one. Yeah, it's like, it's like, I feel like it's like kind of a thing. Oh my God. It's definitely it. I was that with someone the other day

and they were just like, they were joking about shoplifting and I was like, you don't even need that. They're like, honey, it's not about the item. It's about the excitement. I don't get it at all. I'm like, I don't. Yeah, you've never been a teenage girl. So I'm wrong. I know, I Yeah, you've never been a teenage girl. So I'm wrong.

No, I still one thing when I was a kid, I shop lifted a like spider man figure something from like a store at something like, you know, I don't know like intent, dime store, whatever. And my mother and my mother like saw me that I had it like because I got away with it. And then she saw that I had it and she made because I got away with it. And then she saw that I had it. And she made me go back into the store and like apologize for stealing it. And it was a traumatic fucking experience. And I never stole anything.

Yeah. My mom had just seen the heart after that. To my brother. But I saw him go through it. And I was like, damn. It's right. Oh my God. I guess that's parenting.

I guess that younger child. I bullshit. Yeah, I was watching. They don't catch me. I sincerely hope that Zelda never steals anything because everybody's got to steal some gum or some Chapstick or a t-shirt or whatever and then you get it out of your system. You feel guilt you wake up at night and you go. I don't know. I know. I know. She's so good. She's smart.

I was stole like a single pair of earrings off the like Claire's 40 pack of earrings. I was like, I just need one pair. And I felt so guilty about it for the longest time, even though like I'm like, oh, fuck the man. Like a big good player. Fuck Claire. Fuck Claire. But then I felt so bad. I was like, this is not the life for Claire. But Claire, but Claire is like a trap. I mean, they said, I know, well, you can't just get like two earrings. I gotta get 40. I mean, they set up a little Claire, they now have a Claire's thing at CVS, man. And every time we go to CVS, Zelda makes a B line for the Claire. Oh, look, because it's a very sharp one.

And shine. Yeah, and kind of, she's like, can I get this? I'm like, no, you don't need hoop earrings right now. Those are fine. She's like, how about these? It's like 14 unicorn bracelets or whatever. I'm like, you don't need that either.

You need one maybe, but not 14. We'll go on these slated Europe and your tiny little pocket. Yeah, well, I said, and I hope so many else. Yeah, exactly. Anyhow, Ray, so you were fascinated by the data in the pull-up time. Yeah, I mean, there's an X-Cop

who's like kind of analyzing videos of, you know, these security cameras, ring cameras with people like, stealing stuff and you're just trying to figure out, like, you know, these security cameras, ring cameras with people like, see you on stuff in history. You're like, figure out, like, you know, like, what's the best way to deter these? Like, maybe like, you know, move your, build your house 50 meters or 50 feet farther, you know.

Oh yeah, this is a crazy part of the study. He's like, a good way to avoid packets that you're just to build a house further away from the road. Pick your house up and move it somewhere else. That's like, are you serious? That is one of the suggestions. I mean, it's just like, it's like, don't order packages unless you have.

This analysis based off the videos, you know? It's like, well, if it was, it was further away from the road, it'd be harder for them to see. And they're less likely. But also, it's like, hey, you know, good way to get your packages still on this, like, not leave them on a porch.

It's like, well. Well, he also says like maybe your, maybe the delivery guy could hide them. But what's interesting about this story? Okay, I'll just put an airlock. I'll just put an airlock in my fucking apartment. What's interesting about the study or about the whole report, I thought is that

that one of the huge contributing factors to it is the media coverage of, of, express the idea of like what's suicide. The more you talk about suicide, the more likely some people are to commit suicide. Right. Well, this is a lot. It's a good thing we're doing a podcast about both the stomach and the fat.

It's a lot less, it's a lot less. Get serious than suicide. If you need it. No, but it is, it's a transmissible idea. Well, it's also like you're like, yeah, I know what's on about it, actually. Yeah, like wow. It's so easy to get back.

It's like in the lobby of your apartment building here in Brooklyn. I like. I think also like Amazon's return culture not to throw back to this piece of great. What you should read about yes about Amazon returns, but I do think we've created a we we feel like I think a lot of people feel like it's a victimless crime in some way where it's like it's like well if you rob a bank like it's the bank's money like no one's gonna actually like you don't go like oh, sir, we don't have that $400. It was something stole it from your account. I think people are like, yeah, I think people are like, oh, well, like Amazon will just like, you know, reimburse people for the package.

So what does it really matter? Well, you're sticking into the company because like, oh, as a billion dollar company, it's like, okay, well, what's one small pack? And the usual seller. Okay, wait a second. Right. It could be said as a medicine. So what you're saying is that I could justify theft with like a climate, with like a climate change like angle. Wait, you've never had that thought. No, you've never been.

You can justify anything with a climate change angle. You'd be like, the world's burning. The world is burning up taking this change. We need to lower the population to have a stop. Yeah, right. So listen, ego fascism is a real thing. We need to lower the population. Time to be subverted. Yeah, right. So listen, ego fascism is a real thing. We can talk about that later. I mean, we could always talk about ego fascism.

I think it's interesting, though, because the Amazon thing is there's, it is also though, the packages that get stolen are always from the people who least need that. Like, it's always in, when I've been, when I was in a lower income area in a less expensive apartment, all my packages got stolen. Now there's a pile of packages for one person

who's never home that sits in my lobby, and it is always there for two weeks at a time, and I'm like, why are you buying this stuff if you don't live here? That is a really good point. But the people who you're stealing from are the people who now have the time and expense of having to go on Amazon chat and talk to them and convince them or reorder it. And it's I used to get my medication sent to me in a pill pack thing

and the someone would steal it and it's like you can take those pills. That happened to me. Yeah, exactly. I had some prescription glasses stolen off of my front screen. And I didn't have insurance. So I was like, well, I guess they won't have a hard like, what am I going to do? Yes, I'll die. How did those people feel after they opened a pack and they see pills and they're like, well, I'll just throw How did those people feel after they opened the pack and they seepailed and they're like, well, I'll just throw it. You know what, if you felt bad and you like, damn, I stole some medicine,

fucking bring it back with a note. Please, bring it back. I forgot, I don't know. This is your life savings thing. I flipped up and like, I have thought you had something expensive. I am absolutely taken a package from my lobby that was in the pile of other stuff I bought

and opened it before I realized, oh my god, wait, this isn't mine. And then I brought it to the door and said, hi, I promise you I'm not a thief. It was an accident. And the person has been so thankful. Yeah, you can talk to get it back. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think the Amazon thing, also the thing that's troubling is Amazon doesn't think of this as a product as a problem that needs a solution that they can work with their quantum-quad delivery partners because they're always like on and off with their tumultuous love affair with FedEx.

But they don't think of it that way. They think of it as a way to sell you more stuff. So Amazon's like, oh, do you want to use Amazon key? All you have to do is buy a doorbell from us and all you have to do is set up the subscription service and open your home to delivery people. I didn't know this was a, like a police thing. So this guy was like, so I was using this. Yeah, I didn't realize it was. Yeah. So I was using this taking advantage of this partnership that, you know, it came out to lose. Sorry. Anyway, all of the data from a little more disturbed by that, but I got to look into it. Yeah. I've only skimmed. So ex-police officer who's going gone into academia and he's now trying to like, I'm like do like like research papers about. I like the idea of this like

hard-nosed like totally like burnout alcoholic cop who's like who's like seen too much and been too many to too many dark places. Yeah, and you know, he's like, he's like, he's like, we gotta crack this

the porch pirate situation and he's just like, just him like, chain smoking. So watching video after video with Dark Room. Prestige series. I want something that's like, I used to bust perps. My daughter. It's like, it's like porch.

She learning out of porch hunter. Porch hunter. It's like, my daughter, he's like, profiling like the largest like, porch. So I have to say, I truly hate the term porch pirate. It's so goofy. Yeah, we all hated this room. And what? We hate it. We do hate it. But yeah, well, I don't know. No, no, no, it's a thing. It's been a

thing. I mean, I assume who coined it is like, I'm gonna say like, um, local CBS station KLO, right? KLO five or so. Whatever. Fuck their call. They wrap up their report on rainbow party tonight. It's like into and finally tonight porch pirates. Strike or you in risk. Good.

It's like that. It's more feeling to a local news station than a iteration. Yeah. Yeah. I love a iteration. No, it's like paying at the

pump. I remember when gas was really expensive and they were like they were like to night. Pain at the pump. Local residents feel the crunches. Gas prices rise. It's like guys, you know what?

No one's having pain at the pump. They're just like the socks. You think like a show runs up like the producer's spine when they get like a good alliteration with like some blows. Yeah, they're like, oh god. Yeah, for sure. No, for sure.

It's like it landed on the good headline. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, exactly. And then somebody's like, you hit the graphics tomorrow. You're like, I need a fucking tie wrong. Yeah, for pain at the pump. Get me a fucking guy. And the guys are like, it. Yeah, exactly. You're like, you hit the graphics department. You're like, I need a fucking tie wrong. Oh, yeah. For Pat the pump, get me a fucking tie.

And the guys are like, it's like, is it should be like the red circle with a slasher with a pump or is it like, you know, like a man holding his head and the pump next to it? And it's like, the graphics guys are going through all their different clip art. They're like, how do we illustrate, Patent the pump? Is there like a little animated 3D thing, carve skids out then's like a guy falls onto the ground. He's got a bandage. I don't know. This is what I just imagined Bernie Sanders. But what you're saying is input mag.com is a local news site. We're all pivoting to wherever you are. We're all about paying at the pump. You know, we're all about porch pirates. You know, we're about to

speak in the language of the every man. Okay. Well, and the any man to finish up the week of story. I didn't even nobody even asked me what my story. We're not going to talk about my story. I didn't think you were bringing a story. You didn't think that I had anything that I wanted to talk about. You didn't think that there was a story that I might want to discuss.

You didn't think that I had any. What's your story? Go. Well, I'm very depressed about the cyberpunk, a 2077 delay, I guess. Is your story a two sentence post-i-ro? Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, I wanted to honor the great work

of Ryan Hula-Han Esquire, but I guess I won't at this point. All right, cyberpunk 2077. No, it's fine. I don't care who cares. Who cares? Let me find a better story. I'm just going to look.

Oh, Jack Dorsey's pants. Oh my god. You've got to talk about the pants, Josh. What's up, Jack Dorsey's? Well, okay. I mean, I know what's people, let me find a better story. I'm just gonna look. Oh Jack Dorsey's pants. Oh my god. You gotta talk about the pants, Josh. What's up, Jack Dorsey's, well, okay. I mean, I don't, let me say that. One of the things that I wanted to do with input is not just cover just like straight tack, but like cultural stuff.

Gay tack. Yes. It's gay tack. We definitely are covering gay tack. We're definitely covering a lot of gay tack. But, but not just like the, okay, hard tech stuff, but also the cultural stuff. And not cultural stuff, like, I think like our sister site in versus an amazing job covering like the witcher or whatever. I don't think we need to cover the

witcher. I'm happy to not cover the witcher, but there are other things like what's going on in streetwear, some of what's happening in fashion right now, some stuff around like sort of everyday carry and the gear that people use, which Evan has been doing a ton of work on. But we have, you know, Edgar Alvarez, who's one of our editors, is very in that world. We have a writer Ian Cervantes, who's been doing a lot of that coverage for us. And today we saw a picture, somebody tweeted this picture of Jack Dorsey in this like insane. It was like half hype, beast half Jeff mess. It was like hype beast from the belt down and then like total tech bro from up from the from the belt up and probably very expensive but very

droopy hood. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure the hoodie is like $600 or hoodie or something, but so he was so sunny how we we you dropped it. Evan, you dropped the link. I did. And and then and then Edgar and Ian went off to the race and they did kind of create a great job. It's like a creation of the look. And it's like, it's like, I mean, just like, look, look, Jack looked wack. Okay.

The reason I dropped it, where, why did we run with that headline? Okay, there you go. That's like painted the pump. Yeah. Jack. And finally, Jack looking wack. So the reason I dropped this in the Slack originally is because it is a perfect styling crime, right?

We're like, all these items that he's wearing are all very expensive and very fashionable. But worn together, it's an eye-sort. And look at that. He's wearing terrible. He's wearing like Rico and pants and Rico and Boots, which to me, I personally feel is a no-no. I think like you don't pair, you don't do a whole outfit.

Stay in pieces, you don't need to go whole outfit. Yeah, maybe if you're like at the Rick Owens like retrospective. You might like a lot of golf balls doing that for you. He looked like Billy Eilish, but in fact, he looked like Zee-Non girl of the 21st century. Yes, Zee-Non. He looked like a CD player from the early 2000s.

Who would Zeynon go to? Who would Zeynon go to? It's a fantastic Disney. I feel like you need something that was a little bit more. He looks like a hit clips player. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. No, because if he was a hit clips player,

I would have loved that. I feel like you were like, what you said, you're like. He looks like Zeynon's. Wow, he wishes. I feel like. He looks like Space Channel 6, but styled poorly. What you said really he's like Z-Nons Wow he wishes I look like space channel six but styled poorly you think it was like your thing is like he thought it looked like Billy I wish but like I feel there's like but actually look like Billy idle Which is not it but it's like yeah, okay? I'm on the this is the our fashion police segment. Yes

I'm on the this is the ours fashion police segment. Yes. Anyway, yes, he needed to be styled badly. Yeah, then such a that's a session. And the point is the point is I finally it got to connect up people are like, Josh, I don't the sneakers on the side. I don't get it. And like here it is. Boom. It's also technology is how I know you know, but it's also just like, but it's not just a D. This 4D like 3D printed stuff. It's like this guy is wearing one of the most ridiculous outfits I've ever seen.

It's it honestly, honestly, you gotta give him credit for trying, you know, we don't want to do it. We don't want to name and shame Jack Dorsey. That's right. Well, we just want to talk about it. I'm the delegated cruel member of the team and I'm ready to name and shame. We're like the sheriff at like in some like small town

like in like you know, Kentucky that are always like, you know, put him on Facebook. It's like he goes got shoplifting get them on Facebook I weren't solving the truth about talking no listen I'm just saying it could happen any comments or any other thing. So for my story to round out this episode I worked with a writer named BC Wallen on a piece about how streaming services don't have bonus features, the way that DVDs and home media used to, and it is a crime.

The criterion collection actually does have bonus features and they're very well done, but it's insane that Disney who produced a ton of bonus features for all the content that ended up on DataSynie Plus anyway, is now in this limitless platform where they could basically do anything. They could provide any context. They could do as many commentary checks as they wanted.

They could, they have tons of this footage and stuff for all their like platinum diamond sapphire edition DVD blue racettes. Right. And then none of it is available. And instead in lieu of doing that, these sites just like push you on to the next movie. And you'd never really get to like deep dive into the production. And in order to find anything like that, you'd like. You want to sit with a piece? How dare you idiot. Well, because the incentives for a Netflix thing, the reason I'm supposed to get canceled after two

seasons, is the incentive is to get you onto something else immediately so you can be a number at a chart. Someone's like, oh, well, churn is a half a percentage over what were you really looking for? So sorry about we're gonna have to cancel you I mean I Yeah, I don't know man my appetite for binge watching has been really low lately. I mean I Too many cooks no, yeah I wish there was too many cooks. Yeah, that's all I would stop. I was like, it's just even you was like,

which I was excited about. Like once we got into like, I'm like in episode three, I'm like, how much more of the show is there? Like, I'm like, I mean, we were literally watching. Like, Laura was like, why don't we just turn it off? I'm like, I'm like, I don't care. We're like episode five.

She's like, there's only like three more episodes, right? It's like eight episodes. I was like, no don't we just turn it off? I'm like, I'm like, I don't care. We're like episode five. She's like, there's only like three more episodes, right? It's like eight episodes. I was like, no, it's 10. We're like, oh, fuck. Like, you're making an argument for Quippy. No. No. I can't argument for 11 minute episodes on Cartoon Network.

No, I just watched Infinity Train. Jumping out. Check that out. It shows with good, good, stories and characters. I said it's just so much TV. No, no, no. I don't want to. I know when you're producing this much content. It can't all be high quality And you don't let me sit with it and consider if maybe wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Maybe I am making argument for quick. Yeah, you are let me think about let me think about that

But listen also video games have the same problem I'm really upset that they don't come with manuals or a game art or like any other like oh no Oh, yeah, well the soundtrack look like. I don't think the pinch thing is the problem, but. Listen, but no, the soundtrack, they'll put that in as like a steam pack in or something like that. But not very often do you get like, for example, you were even dying away.

We were at CES and like one of the most exciting moments for me, which was very sad, which is when I was in the front row at the Sony thing and there was like some concept art for Death Stranding and I was like, oh my god. Snapping is. Oh, and I also I haven't shown you guys that, which I have. The concept art for Death Stranding. Yeah, I'd love to see it. I mean, but you know, this is, I mean, this is this piece about the lack of bonus features I think is like, it does sum up something that you sort of don't notice the things you lose while you're getting the new things. You're like, like's 3D Touch.

Yeah, right, 3D Touch, really? Wow, I got this notch, but then 3D Touch went away. I mean, I don't know who won here. No, but, you know, directors commentary is fascinating, like stuff like that. I used to listen to every directors commentary of every DVD I purchased, and I would love it.

And I never noticed, but it would be such an easy thing for them to turn on. Well, yes, but yes, I also like I think young people day, they just don't talk about the commentary. Young people today, young youngsters, young millennia, Jenze, Jenze, Jenze, Jenze, Zanners. Oh my god. You know, in our day, we put on a DVD. I saw a turn on stupid watch director's commentary.

We let that Grinch DVD loop he'd run on screeny to run on screeny watch that beat worst thing I saw today on Twitter was a graph that was just like have you guys ever like we last a lot of people like who gets to read books and it

turns out it's only old people what who have a disposable income in like some time on their hands like wow surprise is that true I mean I'm not going to stand for the veracity of this rap I saw on Twitter, but kids got to read kids got to be reading. Kids do you know who loves to read a Zelda? She loves reading. She's so excited about it. She's fucking down. What kind of books does she likes reading? Well, we're reading what's her zone.

Right. Let me tell you. Okay. Harry Potter wrong. They're done with that. I'm reading Harry Potter. I'm right. I I kind of lost interest after the beginning of book two. I'm like, whatever. This is some turkey now. After you found out, I'm like, what is up with these weird, what are these weird anti-Semitic characters of the bankers in this?

Yes. No, these guys schooled me. I will say, have you been talking about this? Yeah, we, yeah, we, everybody, everybody, everybody here, everybody here was like, yeah,

reading Harry Potter, then the turf thing happened with JK Rowling. I'm like, yeah, it seems like she sucks. And everybody's like, oh, yeah, like you what about her? Anathasem? I'm like, what are you talking about? And then everybody started showing me pictures of the bankers? Yes, for great. They're called like green green grobs or something Green grass from Barney green grass. Green gets green gets bank. No, it's green grots It's green grots. It's right. It's green grots So I get corrected. They're like literally the most anti-semaniac depictions of

people I've ever seen in my entire life. Anyhow, but no Zelda is loving right now. We are reading and listening to the babysitters club from the eight years. It's so good. So we just read, we just finished book 11, where the dog with their dog, Louie dies. Oh, it's a really tough one. It's a tough, it's a tough, and you know, there's like Claudia Kishi, her grandmother had a stroke and she's on the mend, which is exciting.

And they're pretty heavy books, but they're also super fun. But it's good, it teaches kids about difficult concepts, but they're fun, and it's like, yeah. They cover divorce in a way that's like, I think, very sophisticated and they make it a part of the conversation in a way that's very natural. I will say they're from the 80s, so it's like not real woke. Like, you know, there's a lot of representation. There's a little bit, but I wouldn't say it's like, you know, you got any, uh, box card children or magic tree house?

That was the best. You got to go for box. No, no, no more, but I will say, I don't want to look, cause a K.A. Applegate is still out there. Fuck a people up on Twitter. That's amazing, no, amazing. She's like, hey, yeah, uh, if you don't get it, you're fucking stupid.

Fuck off. Yeah, but I love that. Like, I wrote a book about war. Okay, you know, it's not very fun. Where people die. Yes, yeah, it's so dark, but I love that because she would be doing the whole Dumbledore's gay thing. I've never read an animal's books. Sorry, I mean, interrupt.

No, no, interrupt me. Okay. This is about children who morph into animals. Is that correct? Yeah, they're essentially brought into like an intergalactic war. Okay. What's the war over? It's so heavy.

I don't remember. Are they fighting about? Oh, not really sure. I like versus like sock the resources from this planet and leave it a hospice. The leader of the animal in the evil and the devil. It's just basically. He's like the only way we found it. It's B, it's BE and way it's beat it's B E E and he more said to a B

How it's perfect it starts with them being like, you know, it's cool. I can turn it. Yeah, that's pretty fun and awesome And I'm gonna win this to be a cool guy and it was like all my friends are dying Like Made it into a Nickelodeon show. I'm not going to. I loved it. Was traumatized. I'm not going to.

We're not going to read the. Radicalized. A lot of our children are in that. We're reading. We're reading the Baby's Hitters Club. And we love Nancy Drew Clue Crew, which is a great series about solving mysteries. And Stephen King's the stand.

Are you really? No, no, no, the one about the flu that kills 98% of the people on the page. I read that when I was eight and this is why I'm the way God and Satan. No, I'm not one of that one, but the woman who talks to God. Well, just censor out the God parts. No, actually, she can read all the other. I was on a she's on a big trip now about how we don't we don't believe in God. And she's like, she's like, I was like read all the other. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no canceled. She's like, you know, no, can't listen to your comedy albums anymore. Wow.

Yeah. Well, yeah. Anyhow, let's wrap this motherfucker up. Okay. We gotta get on with our lives. I mean, we have places to be in people to see. All right. Let's go around and do nice things.

Everybody whip out your nice thing. Okay. Wow. You're as mine. I want to talk about Acon for a second. I want to talk about Acon for a second. I want to talk about Acon too. Or because it's so good. Like, OK.

Acoin. Acoin. I don't even want to explain to everybody what's happened. All right. So Acon has been doing a lot of cool shit, but kind of low-key about it. But is he really doing it? Well, so he has been, I mean, he had like a electricity

and clean water initiative years ago that brought these resources to like over a dozen countries in Africa. And like he's been doing a lot of stuff. And what's cool about ACON is that it's not like, we're coming off like two months ago, Jack Dorsche was like, I'm moving to Africa, you know, and you see a lot of your Jack Dorsche impersonation. Yeah, he's like, it was like, I'm moving to Africa. You know, and you see a lot of a lot of- Jack Dorsey, you're a Jack Dorsey impersonation? Yeah, he's like, it was good. I'm moving to Africa. It's really good.

Oh, wow, he's like, he's like the guy from that show at the comedy. And I'm bringing these pants. I just think that you see a lot of like rich white guys trying to- Oh, it's gonna be low-key. Find the next market and I hate that. And then you have Aikon, who's like from Senegal moved here

and he's like, I'm going back, I'm gonna tap into the skills that are there and I'm gonna lift people up instead of like doing the shitty thing that other people are doing. Would have Jack yours is doing. Yeah, exactly. And it's really cool. And he's not just focusing it on like

a single country. Yeah, so he wants to do. I feel like there's a lot of people doing things that are like, like, they have a coin and then also so basically his thing with the coin. A coin, which is just very good. Like, he just got to go for it. I don't know too much about his whole cryptocurrency plans, but he also was like, I don't know shit about this.

So I'm going to find nerds that do, which I respect. You know, he's just like, I want this to happen. I see that this is, you know, the future. And I want to get people involved and get people that deserve to have their voices lifted up. We're all going to be involved. And he's building a town a city. He's so him and Toyota, right? Toyota announced a city at the base of about 100% renewable energy. It's like, this is not to get off topic, but the name of the city, I keep forgetting to mention this.

Toyota fun. No, the name starts your local dealer and extends all the way to the base of Mount Fuji. Oh, but it's like the name of the Toyota city sounds just like a city from Death Stranding. It's called like, it's called a woven city. I mean, do you see another future for us? Because I don't know because I'm still not clear

on what the future of death stranding is present. It Amazon Prime now. No, that is a future. I understand that like delivery men are very important. Delivery people are very important. But like, it's unclear to me like what if it is is even in the future to be honest. Like, it's in the death stranding future.

Yeah, I mean, you know, and it's destiny. What the future to be honest, like in the Death Stranding future? Yeah, I mean, and Death Stranding, what the, are you saying that you don't know what's in the future in general? No, I mean in Death Stranding. I don't know that. I don't know what Death Stranding is trying to say is what I'm saying. Listen, I got some YouTube videos

I could point you towards. Okay. Well, I don't, I have a thought. It's about socialism. I play, it is. It's about social media. I play 1% of it. About socialism media. Well, I know there's like you can do

It's like you get paid in likes, so that's obviously no, that's that's just the surface But that's you gotta go to be me. You guys service you actually please go to my YouTube channel Or I have a literary breakdown you do it. I don't got. I fucking wish I did You're like time. I'd like more nice things. Give me more nice thing. Wait a second. I'll wait. Yeah, fine Go ahead. I need okay fine. Go ahead. Why do you say before you lose it? What no, I don't know what it is. Give me more nice things. Wait a second. I'll wait. Yeah, fine. Go ahead. I need to. Okay. Fine. Go ahead.

Why do you say before you lose it? Okay. No, I don't know what it is. It's going. Okay. That's gone. See? I got a lot of it.

I got it. All right. So yeah, what I'm really stoked about is all these leaks of the new Xperia 5 plus. Oh my god. Literally no one on this podcast or planet cares about it except for me. You love Xperias. I love Xperias. I love it.

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like, irons out some of those things, because I do feel like the tall and skinny form factor is like a real vibe for smartphones. I do like, I mean, I hate to say it, you know, speaking of cancellations. You're about to talk about that real tall skinny phone. Uh, three of the potential. Oh, yeah. I mean, I hate to say it, but like, a very canceled Andy Rubin, who is a creator of Android showed off some like really really sick The gem phone shit. The gem is like super to I've been on like the weird long phone thing for a long time

From the end of it. I'm in back in and guess yes, I was like really yes I was really psyched with this idea of like a super long like but like nobody's ever done it Who's that chocolate phone? What was the LG? The LG chocolate? The chocolate? That shit is fire. Yeah, it's great. Okay, so I'm glad we all agree. Anyhow, so I hear what you're saying. I like the long skinny phone concept.

But Sony makes such bad phones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's the best smartphone camera sensors, but they can't make it work in the game. They need phones to be put in Spider-Man game. When Zelda was born, I was using the Xperia, X2 okay square very square phone very square I loved it was it was you know what's the bigger one oh there's the X in the XA they had those for a while maybe it was a Z2 it was a pretty big square is fun it's a

flagship then it was I had it 2014 um, so here's the thing. Well, I mean, this phone is a whole different special place in my heart because it's the, I took a lot of early pictures of Zelda with it, which looked like shit. Yeah, it's a 21, it's that 21 megapixel garbage. I think I might have upgraded. I think that might have been another period of my life where I switched back to the iPhone. You're like, oh my god. I was like, so fed up with it.

Yeah. But also, it's, it's the phone that I remember, I mean, you know, the first song, and Laura writes about this in her book, but the first song that, that Zelda Hurt was work by Iggy Azalea, because it was a song that I had been listening to a lot. And I put it down in her little like plastic container,

you know, put it on the phone next to her and made the Iggy Azaleia song on this expiria. It's a long story. It's a long story. I love this. This is my heart is warmed. Yeah. I can't believe I can't believe Zelda's first song was an

igia's Alia song. And oh, that's where she was. She made that. That makes sense. We may have lost. She knew that. I don't think she's ever heard the song since then. Yeah, but it's gonna come on one day And now she's like a living thinking thing and you're

Okay, maybe I'll be canceled for maybe tomorrow. I'll wait y'all and you know rip my minches. Yeah, but But work is a pretty catchy song. Okay, that's it. It's not a teeny igazale. He's not a insane appropriator. Who should we ban from music? I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not not saying that. But I am saying his work as a song is pretty catchy. And he feels like, wow.

And he was like, DeFeta gives up from Elizabeth Ward. And he's like, listen, Ray, you have a nice thing. Well, that's a nice thing. Make it fast, too. I don't know. The Falcon. The Falcon Drone. Oh, he loved that. Oh, you have a nice, what's a nice thing? Make it fast, too. I don't know. The Falcon. The Falcon drone. Oh, he loved that.

Oh, you love the Falcon drone. That's the snitch, right? I mean, drones have been very boring because it's like DJ's dominated everybody, you know? And it's, it's like, you're so like obsessed with the domination of DJ. You love, you're like, you think that's because their offices are near our office?

They're all so first of all literally. They're going to dominate their office. They should be upstairs based on the fact that they're a drone company. Yeah, well, you know, but, but, but, but, but DJ, you're like the first four cards in that store, you're like DJI, DJI's fucking crushing. How can anybody take on DJI? Tap, tap, they're so incredible and massive and their drones are kicking ass. And I love our. Are they not?

Tap DJI, once again, one of the best. There could be another drone maker to take them on but we'll never find them. Tap, enter 0, 0 robotics. I'm like, oh, that's the name of the company that we're talking about. I thought this was supposed to be about fucking DJI.

Anyhow, let's hear about your, about your falcon. Do you think DJI tops? They're a very small, small company. Um, and they're called 0, 0, by the way. Small company, big wig span. Well, yeah, yeah a very small small company. Um, and uh, they're called zero zero. Small company big wig span. Well, yeah, yeah, very big wig span. And they make these like, but they're making this by cop their dream, which is coming out. And we're going to be the first one.

Listen, I can relate. And uh, it, it, it can. No, no, by, no by cop your erasure. Yeah. It can apparently outperform like a DJI. It's very impressive. I mean, nobody has done it yet. Okay, we get it DJI.

So to recap DJI is the best zero zero box is trying to take them on. Yeah, I want to see this happen. Are you reading your rooting for the little guy? I am rooting for the little guy. I like the looks of it. I would fly. I just don't know what I'm going to do with the room.

It looks like a golden snitch. Not to bring it back to turf. Yeah, that's yeah, it does. Oh, the stitch. Yeah, why would now? Because I mean, I need's yeah, it does. Oh, the stitch. Yeah. Why would now? Cause I mean, I need to get that far. You know, I started watching that. Then her potter movie on a plane, but then I fell asleep.

So that's how it happens. That's what happens in life. Do you have anything nice? Yeah, I'm excited about eight. So I bought an Oculus Quest. So I mind came yesterday. Oh, this game. That's not what I'm excited about. You're excited for me. I'm excited for Ryan. Congratulations to his quest. No

There's a game that so oh, I also built so I built my gaming PC a new a new gaming PC and then and then our IT department delivered something even more powerful today and Josh felt so castrated. Oh my god. Gaming. Guys listen guys listen actually Josh's anti-Ryzen and you gotta, you gotta get an his menthees about that shit. He's read the menthees. Listen, he can't handle that seven-anometer processor and that's weak. I built a core and nine system.

The only, the same, I have a 27-e super card. This is a 27-e I don't know. I'm sorry, did you say that you have a 14-anometer processor? Because it sounded like that. Because I'm, what I'm looking at, is a seven have a nanometer processor right size doesn't matter, okay? What I would but I'm really depressed about this has 64 gigs around minus 32 I was like I'm gonna really go for it. I'm gonna put 32 gigs around 128 and that he'll never use just to own just

All that you know, it's so I see the part but that doesn't care at all You know, it's so completely fucking insane is that like, I put like a terabyte and a half, like two different, I put a half terabyte and a terabyte drive. And like the terabyte drive was like SSDs. It was like $99. And I like, I remember when like the first terabyte SSDs came out, they were like a thousand dollars.

It wasn't that long ago. It's fucking insane. And also I will say, I don't think I've put it really through its paces, but I've been playing Deliver us the Moon with Ray Traysane. And like, it's working as a cool... It's working as a cool... Ray Traysane is like, so fucking good.

And it's like, is it actually cool? Yeah, it is. It's really cool, dude. Like, like in Deliver us the Moon, there's like, you're an astronaut and... It changes shit. You're in a space station. And like, I like got kind of scared. I'm like, who the fuck is that? And it's like, you're an astronaut. And you're in a space station. And like, I like got kind of scared.

I'm like, who the fuck is that? And it's like my reflection in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, and it's like your real body reflection in the fucking. So dope. It's pretty cool. Anyhow, but there's it, but so anyhow, I got a Oculus Quest,

which can now be basically trying to do an Oculus Rift S with a USB, a super long USB cable, which I purchased a red Amazon basics version that works great and and there's a new game that just came out called Boneworks which looks fucking awesome and I said I haven't played it yet I actually tried to download it last night and like my like connection was bad and I couldn't do it for some reason so I was like I was like tonight is the night I'm gonna fucking download boneworks and play it. But an interesting thing that Laura pointed out,

because now that I have the gaming PC hooked up to our television, and I can, I'm just like, big picture of mod on Steam to play games. BPM, that's right. And one thing that she pointed out, she's like, oh, I'm like, look at this game, and she's like, wow, this is really cool. And I was like, it's a VR game.

She's like, oh, I can't watch you play it, which is a problem. It's because she likes to watch me play games. And now I'm going to have to be all alone in bone work. That's not the truth. Yeah. Yeah. Second headset with a mod that she can stand like a ghost next to you and be like, what are you doing? Because otherwise you're pushing not only the two screens, but also the a third screen, which would be insane. Well, listen, all I know is that at E3, they definitely have like a viewport TV that they like have. Yeah, but it makes it so nauseating to have that extra. John has tried to watch me play PSVR.

I'm gonna try to watch him play PSVR and it is truly nauseant, you're saying. And there's no way to stop it unless you turn the TV off. So he'll come home and I'll be like, doing beats, Averin, he's like, first of look like an idiot. And second, it's impossible to watch. What they actually need to do is make the way you can flip up the VR goggles and just use the motion tracking and play the game on a big screen using like the motion. I guess

you would be able to like turn around. But I mean, we. I can't. That's true. Or my sony motion plus whatever the part that thing was. Yeah, I pitched the cat. Got it. I have a nice thing. Let's hear Ryan's nice that. My nice thing is I've been watching the dumbest television should ever exist. And yet also the best television should ever exist, which

is the circle on Netflix. Oh, yeah. What is the show to get game show? It is a reality television competition similar to Big Brother, except there are eight contestants and they live in separate apartments and they never meet and they only interact through a social media app called the circle and some of them are catfishing and some of them aren't and they need to form alliances to be popular enough. I just started this morning. I tell you an influencer to make it to the end

and all these people are complete idiots and it's so good. Sounds horrible. I thought you were going to say they're all Catholic. Catholic. I was like wow. It's like a voice activate assistant. It's totally fake. Yeah, it's totally fake.

It's like circle. What am I going to have for breakfast today? It's like let me tell you. No, no, it's like hey circle tell Joey that I think he's really cute. Happy emoji, sad emoji, this face emoji. And it's an intern behind the screen is like picking out whatever. Tell Joey that I think he's really cute. Happy emoji, sad emoji, this face emoji. MMMMM. And it's an intern behind the screen is like picking out whatever.

It's a four-safsook, you're just like in the back, just like, talking about. And it's like send message. I feel like it's so cheesy. I like we're talking about how much, like there's like, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. So much bad. The way it's filmed is like almost like terraces,

but with like robot cameras. So like there aren't people like, I either eat like sheets and stuff. But there aren't people like eye-hunter, you've like sheets and stuff. But also, these people can do nothing else while they're there. So they can like make themselves dinner or like clean, but for the most part,

they're supposed to be sitting around waiting to do tweets or whatever. I am so excited to see what happens with the cat. I have no idea why they didn't just call this. The cat issues are made. You're 20s when you have depression. Have of your friends or cat, because you can't leave your private.

I understand, we can't talk at the same time. Wait, so you're saying, huh, no, you're, yes, you can. I would be annoying to the listener. I understand. So like, nobody can hook up. They cannot hook up. But what they can do is that if you're eliminated, you are allowed to go meet one other player in person.

And nobody knows who you went to see. And nobody like knows what the results of that was, but you get to spend a night talking to that player and you can do whatever you want. This is, this is sounds horrible. So when it gets like $100,000, right? Yes. So no spoilers because I'm going to watch this. But it's like happening live. Wait, it was. They were releasing episodes in like, my gosh. Are they actually in the same like building? Yes. Literally, that circular. In that circle. Oh, that's cool. Because they're in the

building. So then if they, if you win a 10 minutes, I'm moving there. That movie, the cube. Oh, my God. That movie. You like that movie. I don't know if I can say I like that movie, but I experienced that movie we should all watch I mean other movies we should watch something What so I just reminded me of something that's not related Well in any event Go on Netflix great. I highly encourage you to turn your brain off. It's basically what I call

a podcast TV show, which is a TV show you don't need to watch. You can just listen while you do other stuff. It's amazing and also terrible. Enjoy. Wow. Just like this podcast. Yep. Everyone's watching it. Yeah. Watch it. Please. I guess I'll watch it. I'm gonna watch it. All right. Well, kids, that's our podcast. Wow. Thank you all for coming. You're wrapping it up the living room. Yeah. Always Well kids, that's our podcast. Wow. Thank you all for coming. You're wrapping it up for the living room. Yeah, always wrap it up. The living room, the new...

The fireside chef. The new hit show from Netflix, where we all are trapped in a small room and have to talk for an hour straight. That's called Who's Great and Virginia? Oh. I'll tell you, I'm afraid. I'm afraid.

I'm afraid. I'm gonna release this room. Bye. Bye. Bye. and by a porch pirate. We don't know where they are or if you'll ever get them back.