Tomorrow - 186: Normalcy is Fleeting

Episode Date: March 8, 2020

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Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh with Tupulski. Today in the podcast we discuss Enemies, Boomers, and the to Tomorrow. I'm your host, Joshua Tspolski. Today in the podcast, we discuss Enemies, Boomers, and the Motorola Razor. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. I don't know what to say, but we are back. Oh, we're back. We're back.

And I'd say better than ever, but we're back. We're back. And, you know, I'd say better than ever, but, you know, we're not. We're dying. We're all dying. We're a little worse for where? You know, people are wondering, the fan, Tony's wondering, where have they been? Where have I been, Josh? But now, tell you where.

We were creating the coronavirus in a Wuhan lab, secret super lab. No, listen, we've been obviously very busy with input. And I don't know if people know this, but I actually am responsible for the outline input inverse and mic.com, sort of editorially and thematically. And so I actually have a lot of stuff that I'm doing. Doing a lot of running around, trying to put out fires and startatically. And so I actually have a lot of stuff that I'm doing, I'm doing a lot of running around, trying to put out fires and start fires.

And meanwhile, the whole city is shutting down for coronavirus. Yeah. And I got married. Yes. We were a little busy. It's been crazy. And it's only, it just February just ended.

February's supposed to be a slow. In my experience, February is a very slow month where nothing happens. Like everybody's like just exhausted from the holiday still, like post-CES, everybody's kind of exhausted. But now it turns out that February is like where the world begins to collapse in on itself. Should we talk about, should we talk about,

should we talk about coronavirus, I think? I mean, yeah, as a place to start, it's affecting literally everything. Like when we went through the news to be like, what do we wanna talk about on the show? It's like everything that's to do with coronavirus. Right. Now hold on, let's back up.

Now a lot of our listeners may not know about coronavirus. How could you not know? It's a virus and a beer that was discovered in Wuhan, in China. In a wet market. And it spread due to animal human contact of some type. I'm not entirely sure what the chain of events was. Anyhow, so we have this virus on our hands.

It's not like a zombie virus. It's not, it's flesh eating bacteria. It's actually not like wiping people out. It's the mortality rate is bad if you're very old. If you're younger, it's pretty good. Although I will say that the series, the leftovers, was based on a similar amount of people going missing. Well, I mean, yes, I mean, you know, that's medically accurate, but those

people disappeared. These people aren't disappearing. It would not be such a big deal if the US had responded in the way that the US should respond to pandemics. And if we hadn't recently sliced the budget of the CDC, it's way worse than it would have been. I mean, it's similar to the HIV AIDS crisis of the 80s where the Reagan administration was laughing about it and ignoring it. And it's like, it wouldn't be what it is.

It would have never been what it was if people had reacted. Well, the way that science tells you to react. Well, I mean, there's, I mean, without, and we'll talk about politics a little bit because that's obviously also a very hot topic right now. But like, the reality is that we have a president that I would describe as, you know, anti-science, anti-information,

and also he is like legitimately stupid. I think he's a legitimately stupid person. I mean, I know people talk about him being like brilliant or whatever. I mean, like his fans. No, he has holes in his brain from endphetamines. His brain has scrambled eggs. Or from something. I don't know what, but the important thing is that his brain doesn't work, right?

Like there's a press conference with him where he's talking to people and he's like, could we just use a really good flu vaccine on this? And their doctors are like, no. It's like a 10 year old would know better than to ask that question. If you know the basics of how vaccines work. I mean, he's advocating that people go to work, except. Yeah, no, I mean, so's advocating that people go to work, except. Yeah, and no, I mean, it's just, so the problem is that obviously it's a new virus out in the world.

It clearly can be communicated to people the way that much, the way the flu is, which means it's fairly communicable. And we have a president who is anti-science and low information and really doesn't have a fucking plan or a strategy to save his life. And then he puts Mike Pence in charge who is literally responsible for a fucking HIV outbreak in his state when he was governor. And so, you know, it's like perfect storm shit. Now, the thing about America right now is everybody's kind of like, well, it's not that bad here.

Like, there haven't been that many cases. But one of like, well, it's not that bad here. Like, there haven't been that many cases. But one of the reasons we don't know about all of the cases is because people literally can't get tests. Like, we don't have enough tests and can't distribute them fast enough. And there was this like video that was on a Twitter yesterday from this, you know, this like nurses union or whatever, giving a statement where they're like, yeah, one of our nurses

is, has coronavirus needs the test. The CDC is like, well, you shouldn't have gotten it. You didn't wear protective gear, so we're not giving you the test. Some weird shit that makes no sense. It's like, this is a healthcare provider. We don't know how she got it. That's what you need the test for.

But they're not doing it because they either don't have it or they don't understand how to do this. Or, you know, I mean, Trump's been cleaning house in places like the CDC. So, I mean, should we be surprised? So that's the problem, right? The problem is like, this isn't like the end of the, this virus is not the end of the world.

Like the coronavirus will not wipe out all of life on earth. Like, you know, smash cut to five years from now, headline, coronavirus wipes out all life on earth. And it's like, you know, picture of me like, the doubters didn't get it or whatever. But the point is, coronavirus probably won't kill everybody, but it should be contained. And in containing it, you have to have like really thoughtful, like, you know, practices around like, public health and strategy around how to get a community and large communities and the entire nation to get the help they need, get the test they need, take the precautions

they need to take, and then we don't have that here. We have a total fucking disorder. Let's talk about how the fact that this is really impacting the economy because companies have basically outsourced all of manufacturing to China. China is under the crippling weight of this pandemic, which is causing quarantines and people to obviously not go to work. There's a lot of confusion in chaos. Companies like Apple have had to cut

their financial expectations for the quarter or like Konami just pushed back the launch of the TurboGraphic 16 mini. Very depressing. This is the serious stuff folks. But I mean, that's just an example of like within our industry that we covered the amount of stuff that's like affected. And so this, if the coronavirus is dealt with poorly,

it could lead to like a worldwide economic slump. Right, the economy's already eating shit. Like, I mean, this is, you know, the buy product of having a globalized economy, like ours, and getting everything made in another country where sometimes shit like coronavirus puts people on, gets people put on lockdown is like, you've got to deal with the repercussions.

And we have a president, you know, we have a president who is like making deals with China in like these best, like in his head is like these best case scenario situations. And like you don't always get the best case scenario. So, you know, we've got like a lot, we've already got lopsided trade issues with China that the president really hasn't solved in any meaningful way.

He's literally like giving money to farmers as relief because like they can't import, or sorry, export like soybeans fast enough or anymore. And and now we're like, now we have like a legitimate, real unavoidable thing happening in the world, which is, you can't talk your way out of a virus that shuts down a country. If anything, this exposes, my hope is that this exposes to everybody who sees, who's been looking at Trump and going, he's not that bad or it's okay or whatever, is like, oh, he's okay, that you would look at this now and go, wait, she is not okay.

Like this person is not prepared to handle these kinds of situations. I mean, I saw, there's an interview with Elizabeth Warren last night with Rachel Maddo. I don't know if you watched it. She just dropped out of the race and she was like talking about what she would do and it was like so much fucking information

that is real and so much strategy, and so much like, oh yeah, you understand global economics, and you understand public health and just all kinds of stuff you need to understand if you're president, and you just realize that we're kind of in free fall right now. Like nobody's got the control.

Like nobody really is going to be able to handle this. Like we're going to have to hope. I hope, and this is what I think is ultimately going to happen, that states are going to take matters into their own hands. I think if you've been listening to Cuomo in New York at all, it's clear that New York has been doing a lot of the right things, I think, from what I can tell. And we've been able to quarantine and contain a lot of the people

who've been tested and have it. But, you know, the shit's not going anywhere anytime soon. I mean, I mean, that's the thing is that's like, because of, we didn't, because we didn't contain it at the beginning, this might just become a fact of life, like flu season. Yeah, oh, I think it will. I mean, we'll see what kind of stain power it has. I mean, this maybe there's a wave of this

and we come up with a vaccine and there's this one strain that doesn't mutate or whatever we think is the best case scenario. I mean, I just think, you know, what I will say is this. I mean, and I hope that you know, what I, what I will say is this. I mean, and I hope that that it makes people feel this way. Who is in charge matters? Like whether or not they have a brain that can do organized tasks like plan around a unforeseen event. Like I think that hopefully now even some of these die hard Trump people must be going

like, wow, I don't really feel like super safe the way that they've done this and the way that they are doing. I mean, who knows? Those people are kind of brainwashed at this point so who the fuck knows? So hopefully as we come around to this next presidential election and we can segue into the presidential election for a minute. What a fun episode.

We're having fun. Two boys kicking back, having a guy. Hi. There's two guys and we're having fun as usual. I'm like, you know, like it is, so I hope that here's the things I'm hoping that people realize. One is that it really matters who's in charge of stuff when the shit hits the fan.

And if they're not good at their fucking job, we're in trouble. And two, I hope it makes people reevaluate like the way they live and what is important and where the value in their life is. Like I do think that in this moment you're kind of like, you know, people are like stockpiling shit and they're like worried and they're fearful

and they're like, you know, wiping down surfaces or whatever. But I also think it makes us take stock of like, what is life like? I mean, we're not in an apocalyptic situation right now. It just is scary because there's a lot of unknowns, but I don't think it's apocalyptic. It's scary because we're on the verge of several different apoccal.

Right, right. But, you know, but, but, but, but I think we should all start to reevaluate like the way we behave, how our actions affect others. What is important in life? What are the things that you're stocking up on? Look, I'm sitting in a room full of keyboards. Those keyboards, that keyboard money could have gone to a biohazard suit.

I could be wearing a fucking like Jude Law, not gonna do a Jude Law makeshift contagion suit now because I spent all my money on keyboards. Maybe I should have spent them. I thought you were going to like a love in the time of Corona sort of place. Well no, no, but also. You took it to like, I should have been

the prepper in American horror story. No, no, no, no, no, no, but I think it, no, I think that's right. I mean, the reality is we live in a society, mean, the reality is, we live in a society, okay? We do, we do live in a society. We live in a society and other people, we are not alone here. Other people impact our life good for good or bad.

And we've got to get better dealing with it and traversing the way we are in that society. I think this is starting to become evidenced everywhere. I would say, and now I think we should talk about politics, but I would say one of the things I've noticed over the last few, the last two weeks have been crazy. Just in case Tony, in case you're not following politics, I just give you a quick update. A lot of this happens. It's the last time we recorded a podcast.

Yeah, a lot. A lot. Like, so, the presidential race is now down to the Democratic race, down to Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, which by the way, is completely unsurprising to me. Like, I'm not surprised at all, this is where it knitted out.

Elizabeth Warren dropped out. Do you know what it was gonna be like, Amy Klo surprised at all. This is where it netted out. Elizabeth Warren dropped out. He thought it was going to be like Amy Klobuchar versus Talksy Gap. I mean, I mean, the things that I was, that I am have been impressed by is the fact that Pete Buttigieg, who I know you don't like and I have like, I'm like neutral on Pete Buttigieg. I'm like, I would be finally Pete Buttigieg over Trump. That's my take on Pete Buttigieg. Like, I don't think he's the best candidate, but he wasn't the worst ID in the world. But I will say this, young gay man being like,

even considered for president, getting significant percentages of votes in some places, pretty crazy, pretty wild times we live in, a first ever, and people didn't kind of didn't seem to give a shit really. Unsurprisingly, we had several great women candidates who you would think like, like Elizabeth Warren is at the top of my list. I think should have been the nominee personally, but like, you're like, wow, but like clearly something has happened with women.

Like we've gone in reverse when it comes to like how women are considered. I think it's like, we're waiting for the magic woman and where everybody's gonna be like, she's the one. And like I don't think we're gonna get there the way that America thinks about and treats women. But also, we got fucking Joe Biden who was like, just took him off the shelf, no upgrades. You know, no like refinement, no really good talking points.

Actually, sounds insane sometimes when he talks. We're like, this is guys totally fucking viable now to become present in the United States. We've got Bernie, great talking points, great policies. Seemed like he was the front runner, suddenly fighting for his survival in this race. But here's the, which is nuts to me, because I thought it was going to be like, Bernie was just going to toast everybody. And I was getting ready to be mad about sexism, which I am mad about when it comes to Elizabeth Warren. But now I'm like mad about a lot of other things.

But here's the thing. And this is getting back to my point about, we live in a society. I've come to realize that a lot of the people who are voting right now. And by the way, big voter turnout, we just had Super Tuesday. This is the shit that blows my mind. I mean, did you look at these numbers at all? I know I'm kind of rant-ing right now.

I'm getting to a point I promise. There's a big voter turnout. The vote was doubled in size in some places. But the big voter turnout. Like the vote was like doubled in size in some places. But like the big voter turnout was like older moderates for Biden and like the young people that are supposed to be turning out for Bernie like aren't turning out. And it's like, it's like, I don't understand.

Like I get that there is a codery of very activated young people for Bernie. And I thought that maybe those people would do more like outreach rather than just to their own social networks, but would do a lot of canvassing and phone calls and stuff, which it seems like they're doing. But I thought that would have a bigger dent, but I never really did think that like suddenly the youth

were gonna turn out it's 60%, 70%, because like if the Vietnam War didn't get young people to vote, I don't see like legal weed or like Trump doing it. I hear that, but I will say look at the votes in 1992 in 2008, which is Bill Clinton and Obama, and the youth vote goes way up, way up. And like like by significant percentage points. And I think that it's like I have expected something like that to be happening as we've been in this Trump era of like total insanity that where young people are particularly vulnerable, I think, to like Trump's policies, you know, especially if you're, you know, gay or trans, especially if you're a person

of color, especially if you're an immigrant, like, so you think, well, I will say people of color turned out and LGBTQ people always turn out. We vote. Like we, at every demographic part, LGBTQ people always vote in insane amounts. Yes, but, you know, black vote turned up for Biden, right? And like, yeah, so okay, so here's the thing though. What I've realized, what this is all made me realize is that, basically everybody's

a single issue voter, okay? And like I think if you look at like Bernie, like the main, the most the loudest people I hear from Bernie, like what they really, the single issue, and he's a very single issue guy, income inequality, right? Income inequality is this issue which has threads into almost everything in our lives, right? But I think at the top of that list is think are things like universal healthcare, student loan, you know, sort of the student loan debt situation we're in, immigration issues, of systemic racism, but it's all stems from this economic inequality, right? Like, I think that people who are voting for Biden, Biden doesn't have a platform. Like, I'm watching it and I'm like,

Biden's platform is he wants to restore decency, whatever, quote unquote, decency to America. And what I have now come to realize and why Biden is in the first place, in the, he's now the front runner, is that it's not just because people are old and stupid, it's not just because Biden is a well-known name although that certainly helps, not just because people are old and stupid, it's not just because Biden is a well-known name, although that certainly helps,

not just because he was the vice president, the most popular president in modern history, I think people are like, they're not voting for a candidate. They're not voting for Joe Biden. They're voting against Donald Trump, and that's their only issue. Like Drew, Drew Milar did an interview on the outline with his dad, who voted for Biden and South Carolina,

and it is part of the quote unquote democratic establishment, but it was a really interesting conversation, because he's like, yeah, Biden's not great, but we need to get rid of Trump. And somehow, it has just gotten in the groundwater that they're like, Biden is the way, because the only that they're like Biden is the way Because the only issue they're voting on is get rid of Trump and it's like sort of insane to me. I totally get it but it's also like

Is this are we asking I'm just trying to figure out like are we asking too much of people to have more than one issue? Like I feel like we are which is nuts, but I feel like we are I just think that what I, the reason that I can't even get some level of excitement up for like, well we've got Trump out and maybe I don't like Biden. Listen, I'm obviously going to vote for Biden if he's denominated. I will obviously do work to get Trump out of office. This is an inquest. However, to get Trump out of office. This is an inquestion. However, I need people to hear and understand the concerns that first off, Biden doesn't seem like a great guy

or a great nominee. And I mean, we can go into every specific instance of his poor judgment or his clear mental decline, but that's scary to me. But even if this was peak Biden, I think another Neo-Lib centerist, I'm a capitalist, but I'll protect social security even though Biden seemingly doesn't want to do that.

If we go with another Hillary Clinton Obama type, I feel like we're just gonna get another Trump because people don't weren't satisfied. They hated the way the world was. And so I worry that we'll be doing Ivanka 2024. It's hard to say at this point. I will say I totally hear that argument and I dread it.

I dread the reality of it and I think it's possible. I think that, you know, like what I, I'm trying to think of best case scenarios for the worst case scenario. Like, like, if worst case scenario is Biden, look, the best case scenario is whoever it is, they can be Trump, right? They actually can get Trump out of office. Like we, that's the bare minimum.

You want, yeah, bare minimum is like, you need to actually be able to win, okay? And let's say that we know that Biden can win, okay? I doubt that he can, but yes, let's say that. I don't know, I mean, look at the vote turnout. Look at the people who are voting for him. I mean, I know, but we have yet to put Biden on stage next to Trump.

And that will be very bad. I mean, maybe he might be, he might be, he might be in these debates, and he's made a fool of him. No, I mean, maybe, but Trump is completely will be very bad. He might be going pretty light on Biden in these debates and he's made a fool of him. No, I mean, maybe, but Trump is completely out of his mind. I mean, those debates, and at least he's entertaining.

Yeah, but Biden is just boring. I don't know. I don't know. I watch Biden on the night, you know, when he mistook his sister for his wife, which I think was an honest mistake that we all could have made, but hold on.

I watched him speak and he did sound totally out of his mind, but he also kind of was like sounded like a politician getting people fired up. I was like, yeah, okay, this is like inspirational random inspirational shit. Trump does the same shit to his base. He says shit. He says shit all the time. It's like basically inspirational to Republican, the Republican base, which is like, which is like, maybe we'll shut down the New York Times. It's like, you can't fucking shut down the New York Times, but they are all like, yeah, shut it down, shut it down. But my concern is, and this was my concern last time,

and I didn't think it was as big a concern, but I was concerned about it, and in hindsight, we should have been panicked about it, which is, inspirational rhetoric and traditional cadence of like, we are Americans. This is what we do, loses to the novel idea of lock her up every single time. And if he starts hammering home,

Hunter Biden's strippership, it will stick in people's minds. And then then then then, no much better. By the way, I'm not arguing. I would prefer, I mean, I have questions about Bernie's ability to be Trump as well, but I will say I would rather have Bernie.

I would rather put forward the candidate with the strongest beholicies who has a somewhat functioning brain than one who's just like a well-known person who can yell pretty decently sometimes. But here's what I'll say, first off, the president, Trump has very little room to talk about morality and strippers and stuff. He literally paid off a porn star like because he cheated on a party.

Has never held him. I get it. I get that. But we're in a different I mean you do have to understand and this is something I've been talking about for a long time. You've got people who are like that decency shit that he says I know it sounds like bullshit to everybody who's supporting Bernie, but I've talked to people who are in their 60s and 70s and 80s in my family, not in my family. Older people who are like, I need this country to get back to normal. I want this country to be respected again. I don't want to wake up every day and feel terror about like my life and what's going on and like look at the news and feel like overwhelming like terror about like what's happening with the country.

There is a large portion of the electorate. Remember, Hillary Clinton won more votes in the popular vote than Trump and lost by 70,000 votes as far as the electoral college is concerned. Hillary Clinton was one of the most unpopular candidates ever in the eyes of many of these like middle of the road voters. She was a woman, which we know does not fly very much in America. And she was not the vice president of one of the most popular presidents ever. So like, I think there's a lot going for Biden in terms of pure electability.

I think, look, totally, I'm not saying he's, my worry is that both that I don't think he will beat Trump because I do think that Hillary looked stronger next to Trump. And I think that that matters in his equal measure as he was horrible. He was horrible. He was horrible in debates and she was great. And then people were like, yeah, Trump won that debate. And I'm like, okay, I guess we're in the fucking upside down. Well, what, the other thing that I worry about,

and just, I just wanna have this criticism on the record, and I hope that Biden is able to hear this and put his big money donors in his back burner and take care of issues first, is like, we have 10 years to deal with climate change, and Biden has a very, very, very bad score on that. And he is not the candidate that will like steer us through the climate apocalypse.

But remember, and I am very scared. It's true, but as of right now, but Trump is even less of the candidate. And so that if the choice comes down to you, listen, I'm saying go fucking vote for Bernie. I think he's got a better set of policies. But the reality is we don't you and I who like Bernie and support him and like his policies don't get to decide what the rest of the electorate does. And no matter how many calls I place to die of conversations

of people, people who are even younger than 60 or 70 or 80 who are like, and this is true. Like I'm not, I'm not like exaggerating. I've had conversations with people who are even younger than 60 or 70 or 80 who are like, and this is true. I'm not, I'm not like exaggerating. I have that conversation with people who are in their late 40s and they're like, Bernie gets crazy. I don't want to vote for Bernie. He seems like he's out of his mind and like they are really scared of Bernie. They are like freaked out by Bernie. No amount of me going like, he's fine.

You're exaggerating. You're overreacting, believe me, like it's not youth, like so, he's not a socialist the way you think of socialism. Like this is all really normal stuff. No matter how much I've talked to people, they don't want to hear it. They're just like, this guy reminds me of Trump. And that's the fucking thing that I actually think has been most detrimental to him in these last couple of weeks. The cubist shit, I know everybody was like, who cares, Trump said way worse stuff? It's like it reminds people of Trump.

It reminds people of someone who is not quote unquote normal and they get freaked out by it because people are basically fucking dumb. And so like, I hear what you're saying and I agree like vote for fucking Bernie. The problem is we don't rule the electorate and the electorate's real. And so like we have this problem

where we're gonna like, what's the, remember I was saying like what's the best case scenario for the worst case? And like what I wanted to be is like Biden is like if Biden gets the nomination. But the thing is I just, I blame Biden and all the centerist fucking pizza and the Ames because when the right wing moves right,

when they're based on some tea party shit, the whole party swings right to chase them down to get their votes. When it's us, we get taken progressive, we take it for granted, like, you'll vote either way. And we don't need to give a shit what you do or say. You say that, but you don't remember. I mean, I think you're having a little bit of like,

you're blanking on how long it took for Trump to assert himself as actually the leader. And even at the Republican convention, Ted Cruz got up on stage and was like, he wasn't like, I endorsed Donald Trump. He was like, vote for who you think, vote for your heart, don't vote for just because somebody's at the top of the polls right now.

Like, he basically was like, I'm the item that you should vote for this guy, which was like a pretty big deal at that convention, but it took a while for him to steam roll over all those people. But here's the fucking thing. Republicans and Democrats are different. Democrats are more independent in their way of thinking. I do think it's a problem with the party,

but also one of the strengths of the party that some people are like, well, I'm more this way and other people are like, I'm more that way, but we agree on basic well, I'm more this way and other people are like, I'm more that way. But we agree on basic things like, I mean, we do agree on basic things like, I mean, remember, Joe Biden was part of the administration that was the first that ever made from any party to make headway on anything approaching socialized healthcare in this country. And if it hadn't been for the Republicans, we would have single payer, we would have universal

healthcare. There would be a very fucking different situation. Remember, it wasn't the Democrats that lost it. It was the Republicans that crushed it out of existence. Okay, but yes, I acknowledge that there is a problem that there is a sane party and an insane party. And so within the same party, you're going to get a spectrum of beliefs because the only thing keeping us together is the fact that we're sane.

But like, I am bemoaning the fact that sane people, that the sane group of people can't take two seconds to analyze the long-term ramifications of what they think is quote unquote safe and what they think is quote unquote normal. And that we're basing all of our issues and our stances on issues and our stances on what's safe from 30 fuckin' years.

No, I agree, it's nuts, but the reality is it takes time. And I will say this, as far as like making a case for it, and this is the thing that really aggravates me, and I just would take, I wanted like every Bernie supporter, for fervent Bernie supporter, and again, I wanna say, I like Bernie, I voted for Bernie in the primary, I support Bernie now, but I want every fervent Bernie supporter to think about. I know he's like, oh, I was me and you online,

so you're not gonna vote for the better candidate. But like the same thread of that kind of shit is the way Bernie has carried out his campaign. He is not making, by the way, you know, they started this Obama loves Bernie ad. They started running it in Florida after South Carolina. I mean, Bernie, there's an article about Bernie wanting to run a spoiler campaign in 2012 against Obama. There's a history of Bernie not working with the Democratic establishment. There's a history of Bernie saying we're going to burn the Democratic establishment down.

And like, unfortunately, for Bernie's reality, those people have to be brought into your cause somehow or you cannot win. Trump was able to steam Rover Republicans because Republicans basically don't have a platform. You know, they don't have a guiding star except the death call. They're all in a fucking weird death call, which is why a guy who pays off a porn star who cheated on his wife is able to be embraced by the evangelical Christians because they're like, well, we want a Borscht to be bad, you know? But they have these like single, again, single issue voters. The problem is, you have to ignore, you cannot be like, listen, here's the deal.

If Bernie had brought out this coalition of young people, this dramatic number of young people, this wouldn't even be a question because he could win. He could win those states without the establishment. He hasn't done it. It's not there. And in fact, like young people who voted for Bernie in 2016 sat out some of these fucking primaries, which is insane.

So like the problem fucking is, like as good as as his ideas are as much as I agree with him you still have to get everybody on board and you don't do it by going fuck you. Like I saw somebody tweet the other day they're like you know I'm very disappointed about Warren dropping out but vote for Bernie you fucking ghouls and it's like calling someone a fucking ghoul is not a good way to get someone to vote for your candidate. A good way to get someone to vote for your candidate. A good way to get them to vote for your candidate is to actually fucking be like, okay, but I'm sorry, but like the people are dying and suffering

and there are people who cannot, there are people I know that can't go to the doctor and haven't been able to go to the doctor for a year. There are people I know who, who, me, I'm not adopting children in the next few years because I don't know whether or not I will leave, they'll legally be mine. There are people who are really scared and struggling,

and sometimes those people aren't gonna be like nice and comfortable. Yeah, but guess what, Quitter, guess what? Quitter is not fucking real life. You guess what? Quitter is not fucking real life. Guess what?

Like snake emojis, the? The fucking charlotte, it's not like crime or anything. Is that what you're saying? You really should rethink those snake emojis now, huh? Like, are we in middle school? Are we in middle school? People are dying. No, that's not my point though.

I agree. But going back to what I said, like first off, Bernie has to do it from the top. I'm not talking about the fucking people on Twitter. I'm saying that's a reflection of the attitude, but the reality is Bernie has to do it from the top. I'm not talking about the fucking people on Twitter. I'm saying that's a reflection of the attitude But the reality is Bernie has to bring he has to get those endorsements He has to go to the to the establishment and say listen. I want to work together. How do we make this work? He hasn't done that shit and he hasn't brought out the youth vote that he talks about having and

Getting back to what I was saying. there's a single issue voter out there, and they're looking for one thing, and they have to see it, which is, you can have, you have the platform, and the position, and the connections to take out Donald Trump. Because those people you're talking about, like, I hear what you're saying.

Healthcare is, I mean, it's vitally important that we get universal healthcare, that we get socialized healthcare in this country for everybody. The reality is that's not the issue for many, many voters. That's just the fact. That's, I hate to say it, but it's a fact. They're not like my most important issue is healthcare.

There's some old people who are worried about losing their Medicare and Medicaid, that that's their issue. But there are a lot of people for whom the single issue People who are worried about losing their Medicare and Medicaid, that that's their issue. But there are a lot of people for whom the single issue is not income inequality. It's not socialized healthcare. It's not any of that stuff. It's I need to get rid of Trump so I can wake up every day and feel normal again. And like that is their issue.

That is their abortion. And if you cannot get them convinced on that issue, this is why I'm like so frustrated, because I think Bernie could fucking be Trump. But like, how can you show them that he can be Trump? Just by telling them that everybody should have healthcare is not the fucking answer. There has to be the thing that Bullshit

the Joe Biden does is the same Bullshit that Pete Buttigieg does is the Bullshit that Obama does where every once in a same bullshit that Pete Buttigieg does, is the bullshit that Obama does, where every once in a while they're talking and you're like, this guy is gonna take us somewhere that we haven't been before, because they have this inspirational tone of speaking that isn't reflective of the reality that you and I live in.

Like we know that that's like a great stump speech isn't, doesn't make a great politician. I'm sorry, it doesn't make a great president, it makes a great politician. But like,, it doesn't make a great president, it makes a great politician. But like, that's the same thing that got Trump elected. He fucking is charismatic. He gets people excited, his people. And he somehow completely fucking steamroll

that whole party on bullshit and lies that he could never fill because he said it so well. That's basically it. And so like, if you can't convince people that you're that guy to take people to the mountaintop, that's the fucking problem that we have. And by the way, it's not an knock on it. I just don't think, I don't think Joe Biden's that guy.

No, I mean, I don't know, he's right now, he's more that guy than Bernie is to people. That's the problem. And it's not about policy. I need to run some other kind of strategy. No, but you understand, you're trying to be clearly don't have a bad guy. But think about it. Joe Biden's not about policy. I need to run some other kind of strategy. No, but you understand you're trying to be clearly don't have a bad guy. But think about it. Joe Biden is not that bad.

If you think about it this way, the people who support Bernie want revolutionary new politics, they want socialized health care, they want I think more than that, more than that, they want their frustration and anger to be heard. Okay, but and Joe Biden doesn't fucking listen. But a huge, but a huge, okay, but that's all, that's all at this down deep in the dirt, in the like the actual nitty-gritty. Up at the higher level,

the people who are responding to Joe Biden don't want revolutionary politics. They want Trump to be gone. Their revolution is get rid of this motherfucker and then we can talk about what comes next. But right now, I mean, I really, you hear this and see this from everybody who's voting for Joe Biden and people who are leaning towards Joe Biden. It's like, I don't care about almost anything right now. I'm not saying I feel this way.

They're like, you can only do so much at once. Their argument is basically like right now, number one job is get rid of Trump. And they feel for whatever reason because the he's familiar or because he was Obama's VP or because he inspires them when he screams about random shit for whatever fuck a reason. They're like, that's the guy or the name recognition alone or the fact just name. Well, he gets also gets. I honestly believe he also got all these people to endorse them. You know, people who were in a running who were taking double digit percentages of votes. He He'd now they're now saying, okay, I'll get behind this guy. Fucking Clyburn is like, I guess, I'll get to look anyhow.

I mean, let's end on this, but I think I have to say it if we're having this discussion. Bernie's ideas and his turnout probably would be completely different in a society that hadn't accepted so much of voter suppression over the last 30 years. Oh, yeah. I don't know. And the gerrymandering and the suppression, I mean, even the stuff we saw people waiting in line, because they literally,

so the people we're talking about are the people who are probably gonna be fine either way. And what it really comes down to is they don't wanna hear about the shit anymore. But the problem is, when Biden is elected, at some point, you're gonna have to hear about this shit anymore. But the problem is, when Biden is elected, at some point, you're gonna have to hear about this shit again, because those people who are dying are still gonna be dying,

and they're gonna be even angrier, because they finally got rid of Trump, and nothing changed, and nothing got better. And they're going to go hog wild in 2024. And if they can't vote, if they can't be heard, if that doesn't happen, if there's no candidate expressing their anger, they're not going to bottle it up and just take it. I think we need, this is actually what I was getting to, is the best worst case scenario, is that Biden ends up with a running mate that pushes him way harder

and way further left on so many of these issues that we don't end up in a place where in four years where like none of this should happen. I think we've learned a lot, like about what is gonna fly and what isn't. And I think that, like what we, listen, this is crazy, but what I really want to have happen more than anything is for Biden. If Biden becomes the nominee, I want Bernie to have happen more than anything is for Biden. If Biden becomes the nominee, I want Bernie to be his VP. That's like my dreams.

That's my dreams, Adario. It's insane. I know it's insane, but like having somebody with that strong of an agenda at that level of the government would absolutely have an impact, right? Or Warren, but like, who knows? Like who fucking knows? It's not happening. I'm just saying, we live in crazy times.

We live in historic times. Bernie's not gonna get another chance. He's not gonna run in four years. I mean, he's old. How old is Bernie? 78, 75? They're old. They're old, shit, they're so old.

That's the worst. You know what I want? I want a new candidate. I want a fucking candidate who's like 45 years old, who is super fucking smart, who is super fucking progressive, and gets people fired up. I want like Obama for now. Are you announcing to Paulski 2022?

Today I announce my candidacy for president of the United States of America on a policy of free drugs for everyone. And I don't mean like heart medication. States of America on a policy of free drugs for everyone. And I don't mean like heart medication. I mean the good stuff. Honestly, I think that's a platform. No, look, I just think we need something,

we need some new fucking blood. We need honestly, we need like whatever AOC is doing like 10 years older. Okay, we have to talk. Oh my God, all right. Let's talk about phones. We have not talked about phone. Oh my God.

And our journey with our good friend motor. Foldable phones, I can't believe he's been so long we've done this, we haven't talked about foldable phones. Foldable phones, let's talk about them really quick. We were very excited about the razor. The razor is a total fucking piece of shit. We were very excited about the gals, is he flipped. It's a fine phone.

Would not recommend it, personally, would not recommend it over a regular Samsung Android device. I think foldable phones, we just saw some TCL devices that are like crazy, like tri-fold and one that has a thing that pulls out. Like, I don't know if like, we're anywhere near on the technology front, like getting foldable, collapsible phones, right?

Like, I think there is a future where you've got a thing that's like a phone, and then like you like pull something out or fold something out and it turns into like a tablet-sized screen or whatever. Like, that would be rad and like if we have an interface that can support it, if it's like the iPhone turns into an iPad, like I'd be pretty into that. But we're not anywhere. the screens aren't there. The screens aren't there. Honestly, they're too soft and they're too breakable

and they get too much shit happens to them. And even if you fold them close, you flip it open with your thumb and you didn't cut your nails and your thumbnail rips into your screen. Like we can't have, it's tissue paper. Those things don't work. I mean, I was so excited about the Z Flip,

I literally purchased one and was gonna wait like the month that would take for them to assemble one and send it to me. And after playing with it, I was like, oh, I'll break this and then I'll be so sad. So I didn't buy it. I mean, it is, it's just not ready for prime time in any way, shape or form. Like it just isn't there. And I think we're trying to, you know, everybody wants innovation now

or desperate for innovation. And this looks like innovation, but it actually isn't. It's just like we changed some stuff and made the screens worse and, you know, the phones are not as powerful and the cameras are less good. And it's like, don't spend $1,500 on a phone that sucks just because it falls in half. There's no justification for it. And having to use these devices, I can say,

emphatically, you are not getting your money's worth. The only thing that you get out of it is that people are like, whoa, that's cool. But like, I'm sorry, if whoa, that's cool, it's worth $1,500 to you. Like, you need to get your priorities straight. You need to get your life adjusted. You know?

I mean, you've used them. What did you think? It's a cool idea, and I certainly love the idea of getting back to a place where anything goes in phone design, like the 2003 Nokia style. But they're not, I want them to be good. And I think that there is a future for them if the screens in some way become durable. But at the present moment, you can't charge people $2,000 for a phone that like immediately breaks.

And perfect example is the razor. Like we don't even know what happened to a razor. We had a wild ride. We basically like, we got a razor. I reviewed it. It's not very good. Use it for a few days. We got the Galaxy Z Flip. I was like, Ray, do you want to take the razor and you know, you check it out and compare the two. He was like, totally. He took it out one day, opened the phone up, the screen had like a weird crease in it. He didn't know where it came from. We contacted Motorola where like, you know, what's up with this? They're like, oh, yes, send it back to us. We'll

inspect it. We're like, and maybe not You guys have been like ghosted us on several occasions and been like really weird and cagey. There's like a very, we've had a really weird experience with their PR people. And I was like, yeah, I don't think sending it back to them for them to do whatever kind of autopsy they're going to do feels like that, like good or transparent of an idea. And so we're like, hey, I fix it. Do you guys want to do a tear down of this and figure what happened to the display? And that way we'll have like a third party that's sort of neutral. They're like, yeah, I totally wanna do it.

And then, I mean, you could read the story on the site. But then the next day, literally, the I fixed people were like, um, we're gonna decline to do this because Motorola asked us as a special favor to not do it, which is super fucking shady on so many levels. And it turned into this whole thing, so I wrote the story about it, like is super fucking shady on so many levels. And it turned into this whole thing, so I wrote the story about it like basically like this thing happened.

So here's the interesting thing. So then I was like, well, I have this fucking broken phone. And by the way, the screen got worse. The screen got like, we had it closed for a bit. And then like I opened it and I put it back in its box and I was like, well, I'm just gonna return that we bought the phone. I'm like, well, I'm just gonna return this and be like, I don't know what the fuck happened,

but we're not, you know, Motorola, I don't, I'm not sending it to the Motorola PR team, and I fix it, it doesn't wanna fuck with it. So maybe I'll just take it back and call it a day. I took it to a Verizon, so they're like, we can't take this back, you damage the screen. I'm like, no, this happened to the screen. They're like, this looks like you dropped it.

I'm like, it wasn't dropped, it wasn't struck. The screen is fucking weird. And this is not the last time you're going to see this. They're like, also, the screen is thin as a piece of paper, and at which fair enough, but it flaps off of the thing when it crisis. So like, no, but like the guy at the store was like, I listen, if there's any, if the screen looks damaged, it always gets our policy that we basically like default to, you broke like, listen, if the screen looks damaged, it always gets our policy, that we basically default to, you broke the screen somehow and we don't do, but this is a different kind of screen. We don't do returns.

And I'm like, yeah, but the screen's nuts, and it broke on its own, and they're like, sorry, I can't help. So I'm like, okay, so now I've actually sent it to the warranty through the warranty program with Motorola, and I am eagerly awaiting what they have to say about it, because it's like, I assume it's not gonna be the same people who would be doing an autopsy on it.

It's like somebody in Texas down in there like warranty repair center. What I really wanna know now, and I might write about it, is what happens if your screen does this shit, and you send it for a warranty repair with Motorola. Like, are they gonna be like, yeah, something was wrong with the device

or are they gonna basically try to charge people for a screen replacement, you know? I just can't believe Motorola took their most beloved, maybe they're only beloved IP and like put it on such a slapped together piece of crap device. Like it's so sad to me. Like I know that Motorola is not the same people who were Motorola previously, but it's so sad. Like what do they have left now? Droid? The rocker? Like yeah yeah. The cracker, remember that phone? The crazer?

The cracker is my idea. It was a square phone. Look like a giant saltine. Yeah, I don't know. It sucks, and it sucks that foldable phones are not quite there yet, but I mean, it's an idea that has legs. You just can't go around saying that you created bendable, foldable glass, and then people get it. I mean, it's an idea that has legs.

You just can't go around saying that you created bendable, foldable glass, and then people get it and it's plaster. You just can't do that. No, you really can't. Anyhow, so that's been our saga. We tested the Galaxy Z Flip. I mean, the reality is like these phones are dumb.

They're not good and they're not worth you spending your money on. But the reality is like, this is true, I think, of many things right now. Like, you don't really need to spend money on a lot of things at this moment. Like, there are phones I want all the time. Like, we also reviewed the Galaxy S20 Ultra. I mean, we're just at a different point in technology. Like, I love devices, I love new gadgets, I love like fucking around with like, interesting technology, as you know. But I think we are at a point where like, you know,

your last Galaxy phone is probably not that much worse than the new Galaxy phone. And you don't necessarily have to upgrade. And I think that's kind of liberating in a way, you know? Like, I think it's, I think it's, and I think that like, honestly, this coronavirus ship me talking about the kind of impact to it. Now, obviously, it's having a huge impact on the economy, but maybe it's good to take a step back and go like, is this global, this globalized, you know, instant on, like instant gratification reality we live in.

It's like actually good for us. Does it actually yield positive things, you know? Like I don't know anymore. I think maybe it's good to slow down a little bit. I mean, this is part of the fucking argument about around Twitter and Facebook and social media. Like do we need to be inundated with the fucking idea? I mean, to your point about, people being mean on Twitter, it's like, that isn't real life.

It isn't real life. If the people on Twitter were real life, Bernie would have fucking blazed Biden in these races. The reality is, turns out there's a lot of other people who aren't on Twitter. And like, we should actually, it, well, the thing is, it's Twitter, I shouldn't have said it so, Callisley.

Twitter is real life. It's just such a tiny point of real life and to should have said it's a policy. Twitter is real life. It's just such a tiny part of real life and to not matter. It's an app. It's like, it's part of it. It's like a very specific part of real life. When that part of real life matters, it's when someone huge does something huge,

like the president declares war on it. Then that little part of life suddenly matters. But if you decide that that little part of your life doesn't really matter to you, you can just like not deal with it. And in some ways like you would probably be better off. I find myself constantly, constantly dealing with the fact that I am paralyzed and trying to refresh my feed because I think at some point news will come in that will make you feel better and it's not happening. I've done this for days

at a time. I was late a bit last day and I was like looking to Twitter and I was just like, what am I? I was like, I got to the top of my feed and there was nothing new there and I did long pulled a refresh and I was like, what do I think I'm going to see here? Like what I've done this for days and I given I have mental illness but like at some point I do need like some kind of like Eastern European coach to be in my home and be like put the phone down. I need someone to start up idea right there man You know like that is a fucking Idea for us right now. Let's start that let's get that. Let's get 20 million in funding We'll send an Eastern European. Oh anywhere

That isn't your phone or the writer I know why they're Eastern European, but I like the idea. Oh Ryan like you want to talk about I know there's one thing You want to talk about which is is near and dear to your heart, which is Twitter's new feature called Fleet. I can't even hear you say it. Yes, Twitter is doing stories that disappear with their like, they'll have text and images or whatever, which is like, first off, nobody wants talking stories

anywhere but Instagram anymore. Well, I don't know. I mean, I think Twitter is actually a really good place for it. I'm gonna hate it. I'm gonna hate it. And also, like LinkedIn is doing stories. It's just bad. Well, LinkedIn stories are dumb.

I just think it's time and place. Like I think there's certain things. Like we have card stories on the site. I think there's certain things that we use it for that are really fucking cool and make a lot of sense. And then there's a lot of things that I wouldn't use it for. I think like LinkedIn's a place where I'm like, it's not the format isn't the problem. It's that, whenever I go to use stories on different platforms, it's always made by people who aren't content creators.

So they're not good. No, like you don't want, you don't want to see like the LinkedIn guys being like, you know, I, you know, four rye eggs for breakfast or whatever the fuck they're gonna talk about. Story stories are things because we have professional writers and editors and like photographers working on them. Yeah. Yeah. But I'll say this, the name of fleet for those unfamiliar with the word, fleet is a brand of enema used by people preparing for anal sex.

I can be used for other reasons. Oh, I mean, it's in, I mean, it's people need animals for non-anel sex purposes. I feel like they mostly need them for anal sex purposes. Yeah, it comes up, but you know, there's other uses for lube, but I think for the most part. The lube can use a lot of things. In any event, it is similar to like fiber supplements where it's like old people purchase this or gay men. And if you were naming your product after an enema to start with, it's not good. But especially one that make people make so many jokes about, Pete Buttigieg was originally going to call his fans the Pete fleet until I started making fun of them on Twitter and

then his comms director like DM me and was like, if we get rid of this name, will you delete your tweets? And I was like, no, I won't. But it was it's really yeah, oh my God, really bad. And and even Twitter itself had to go on Twitter comms or whatever and say, like, we know what fleet means. Okay, but like, yeah, I mean, like, honestly,

it's not a good. I know. And I, um, it is true that when I first heard it, I did first think of the Fleet Enema brand. Not for the reasons that you thought of it, just because like when I think of the word fleet, there's two things that come to mind, which is like a fleet of ships,

or the brand of Enema, which I know, because I have, there's old people in my family, and like, you know, I go to my grandparents house and like, I remember opening like their cabin and I'm like, what is this? I think I had a car search my mom like, what is flea, a flea anima? And it was a very strange conversation. I'm gonna tell you.

But it's stuck in my brain. Even if none of these things were attached to that word already, just say it, flea. It just sounds like a great word. It's a bad word. I tried to, what I tried to create this thing on Pinterest called Puit, which is like Pinterest tweets, where instead of using Pinterest for images,

you would just type stuff in the comment of the image, or like just a comment with no image. I think I was using like white, no image images, like white, anyhow, it didn't work out. I did like four of them and I was like, this is not gonna be a thing. But it reminded me of that also,

which is another horrible name that I came up with that I regret even saying out loud now. Puites. Puites. Pintes, tweets. Tweet. I guess they could have been peets. I guess they could have been peets. Tweet weirdly works because it's got a teeth at the beginning and a teeth at the end. And there's a little wee in the minute. Like it kind of works. Fleece. It sounds like moist or flim. It's such a bad word. I don't know why not just call Twitter Stories. Yeah, or Twitter Taps or Twitter Moments. That's great. Twitter cards, whatever. They have cards actually.

No, but here's the thing. Honestly, people think of it Instagram Stories. They're like, I know what a story is. Stories is a good, fucking way to describe it. It's like just steal their shit. I actually think Twitter could eat some of Instagram's fucking one. Instagram stole it from snap stories. Yes, I think that and I think that I think that unlike any other social network, Twitter could actually eat some of that time spent with fucking stories because of the way that it's feed works and the way that people kind of like endlessly scroll. But for some reason, they've given it a dumb name. And now I feel like

they've shot themselves in the foot. Fleet. And if they double down on this name, I will both respect them more and infinitely less. I have to say, I think it's a shitty name. It's a bad name. No, I mean, it's, it's, we have to just, we got to get back to our, to our normal life, to the real life, to the real world.

So vote for Goat. I know what we need to do is go out instead of being on Twitter arguing with other dummies about this shit. We need to go to the streets and argue with random people. We need to go into our families. You know, we need to go out, you go out and talk to the people who are like, he's crazy and try to convince him that he isn't. You know?

Like, but, you know, it's tough. It's hard. It's hard to convince people. It's hard to convince people to change their minds and to not be scared. Fear is the mind killer. You know? Fear is the thing that we are all grappling with right now. We live in a world of fear, you know? And by the way, coronavirus has made it even worse.

We're now like, can I touch this? Can I be near this person? Is this restaurant okay to go to? You know, all kinds of weird races, shits happening right now. People are like, can I still eat Chinese food? You know, it's like, that's, you know, we, but it's all fear-based thinking. And fear of the unknown is perhaps the worst, right? And I think that if I can leave us on any note, fear of the unknown is going to hinder us from making progress on so many ways. And it has been historically, I think, that has hindered us from making progress.

Fear of the other, fear of the unknown, fear of what is to come that you can't gauge or predict. You know, and the truth is you don't have control. You're not in control. You are out of control. The universe wants what it wants, and it's going to do whatever it wants to you, and you have to accept it. And then vote for the person that you feel in your heart is the best next president of the United States. And yes, I am endorsing Tulsi Gabbard. I saw funny meme, which is like, you know, that meme where it's like the grim reaper is going from door to door.

No. Well, there's this meme where the grim reaper goes from door to door and all the doors behind them are like blood is spilling out from beneath them and they're open. And it's knocking on another door. And it was Tulsi Gabbard and every door was all the other candidates. It's like Tulsi's almost done it, folks. It's really good. It's really good.

She's got to take out Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders and then Tulsi's world, baby. I'm gonna get his favorite cult, never. I mean, it's Tulsi. I know people who actually, I know some people who really like Tulsi and think she's great. And you know, that may... Are they in a cult? I mean, no, they mean Tulsi and think she's great. Um, and you know, that may, are they in a call?

I mean, no, they mean, who knows? We don't know. Fear of the unknown, again, is striking our, striking down our ability to vote Tulsi into office. But like, honestly, she needs to fucking get out now. She's embarrassing herself. She's got to go home, go home, go worship your fucking cult leader.

Yeah. Do it. Anyway, well, I don't want to tell a woman what to do. Okay. I don't want to mansplain the race to Tulsi Gavard. I will. Anyhow. So look, I think let's talk about Knights.

Oh, yes. Let's do it. Go ahead. You want to go first? Yeah. I would be a horrible person if I didn't mention that I got married and my nice thing was getting married. Wonderful.

Love John. And we decided to do a simple, sort of, like, low steaks day where we got married in Central Park with just our parents and an efficient because in New York City you need to have a registered efficient. And then had brunch, watched my brother had a lacrosse game, we watched it, and then we went out to a really nice dinner and went and saw Mulan Rouge on Broadway, and it was just a lovely, low-stakes day. And then we're going to have our parties, we're going to have a friends party for our wedding and a family party, and this isn't just a way to soak up board tension. I really like hate that when I go to weddings,

the bride and groom, or the groom groom and groom or the bride and bride or the two spouses spend the whole time saying hello and goodbye and not enjoy the $50,000 apartment. And I don't wanna do that. I wanna really spend as much time with people as possible. And I got to spend a lot of time with my parents

on my wedding day and talk to them about life and love and where we were gonna have dinner. So it was nice. I think that's great. And I recommend. I think people should, the biggest mistake people make is they don't take time to really enjoy their wedding day.

And I'm guilty of this. And I always, there's things about, I had a great, I mean, I loved it. But there are things about it that I think, well, I wish I'd had spent more time focused on this thing, but we're other than worrying about this other thing. I got to take a nap before we went to dinner

and I cannot overstate how much that increased my enjoyment of the whole day. Yeah, that's the way to do it. Well, in four years, you'll get to be at my first wedding anniversary because we got married on Leap Day. Oh, right. That's insane. All right, is it time for my nice thing?

Sure. Okay, you know what I'm like, we were talking about this earlier in Slack, but I'm, I've been buying a lot All right, is it time for my nice thing? Sure. Okay. You know what I'm like, we were talking about this earlier in Slack, but I'm, I've been buying a lot of the indie games lately, but I'm really into itch.io, which is like a market. It's basically a steam for all kinds of crazy games. It's like really a social network

because you can follow developers and their work and get updates on new things they're doing. It's very cool. It's really cool. It's really cool. There's a ton of stuff on here that like, there's a ton of stuff on here that's just so weird and interesting that I can't wait to play some of these games. But also, what I realized, which is super weird

and I don't know how this happened. But like, I bought a game on HIO. I have no memory of this occurring called The Last Night by a guy named Tim Soret or Tim Soret, he's French, I believe. And this game is like now on steam as like it was a some weird controversial thing happened. I bought this game in 2014. It's like you bought this five years ago. I was like what? And it's like a flash game. And it's this weird cyberpunk flash game. And it's really fucking cool. I bought it five years ago.

And this guy, he was working on a much more advanced version of it, which is like his somehow stuck in development hell because he said some like rude things on Twitter and got canceled. Which is like, I don't know, a key also was like, apologize for them and was like, I was stupid. I don't know why I said those things. So anyhow, I don't know the whole story, but it was just weird because I'm like, oh wow, like I've been, I was on it, I owe like a long time ago, I guess, I don't know in whole story, but it was just weird because I'm like, oh wow, I was on itch.io like a long time ago, I guess.

I don't know in what capacity it existed. Maybe it was called something else. No, it was. I have some of those that I bought one off, like text adventure game that I bought for like $2, a bunch of weird stuff, but it was a storefront that was like an indie storefront way before the like steam or like G.O.G. days. And so they've recently just gotten really aggressive because of the competition and

I step their game up. I stepped their game up. Yeah. That's another word when I stepped myself. Uh, no, but, uh, but anyhow, so I think it's like, I think it's like pretty cool. Like I'm, anyhow, whatever. I just, it's nice. There's just so much crazy weird shit.

People do all kinds of weird stuff, like make like remakes. Like somebody did a remake of Resident Evil 4 as a side-scrolling shooter. And like, yeah, that's like the original one, right? Oh, yeah. They made like an actual Sega Genesis version of it. Yeah, it's crazy. Well, I will say to piggyback on that,

you gotta check out Dreams on PS4. It's from the people who did Little Big Planet Media Molecule, and I was in the beta and the early access, but people hadn't been doing a ton with it, and I got bored and it was around the time that we were kicking up input stuff, so I didn't have any time to play video games. But if you go there now, it's basically like a game engine

within a game, and you can make basically anything you can think of. Wait, what is this? What is it called? Dreams? People have a game. Like people are remaking all of Sonic Adventure within the game dream.

Yeah, that's not. See, I'm into that. There's just so much unexplored. I mean, if you look at, if you started to look around at HIO, you'll start to see there's some really interesting, unexplored ideas that people are starting to play around with and it's really fucking cool. Like, there's some real weird tours

that are doing just like strange, strange stuff that I'm into. I also, I have a thought on the on why I've purchased it, why it says I purchased these games. I'm wondering if like there are certain developers that basically said like, if you've like previously purchased it and licensed it, and they've put it here as like it's like main home or whatever, maybe it just includes it. If you're on a list of people, it's for all.

Or a while, people who are also using it on their own websites as their storefront. So you might have used it, GIO, and not really realized that and thought maybe it was a payment platform, which I kind of was. Yeah. I mean, yeah, and any rate, it's a full, it's a full-throated. It's cool shit. Yeah, it's cool shit. Check it out. Itch.io. You'll be happy that I sent you. Well, I guess that's it. I mean, there's really nothing. Nothing else to talk about, right? Well, we hit the big ones. We got the big ones. We got fleets and we got, you know, Joe Biden, and I think that says it all bye Bye Well, that is our show for this week.

We'll be back next week with more tomorrow, and as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been told that your family is all doing fleets right now and none of them have a Twitter account.