Tomorrow - 190: COVID-42069

Episode Date: April 15, 2020

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Hey and welcome to Tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Votipolsky. Today on the podcast we discuss turtles, govago and Frank Sinatra. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. What was that cough? What was that cough? Covet out of my throat? Sounds suspicious.

COVID, 69. COVID, 4.26. COVID, 4.20. Is it too soon? It's just soon enough. Ryan, we're back on the tomorrow podcast. It's you, it's me, it's COVID. We're all in this together.

Keep calm and keep coughing. Keep calm and cough on. That's what I say. It's COVID, We're all in this together. Keep calm and keep coffee. Keep calm and cough on. That's what I say. It's COVID. The COVID express, all aboard the COVID express. I don't know what I'm talking about right now. I have no idea what I'm talking about. The other day I left my apartment, just temporarily to pick up some groceries. And there was a bunch of people standing outside of a restaurant waiting to pick up their like pick up food like their takeaway and They were all smoking and talking to each other and one guy was coughing and I was like you're all idiot I'm gonna kill all of you if you don't die from COVID. I will kill you

I was so if I see a person coughing. I'm out of there if I even hear a little bit of somebody if you use somebody clears their throat If I have to go to the grocery store and hear somebody clear their throat. I'm done of there. If I even hear a little bit of somebody, if you use somebody clears their throat, if I have to go to the grocery store and hear somebody clear their throat, I'm done. I go home, I turn the water up to the, I burn my clothes, I turn the water up to the hottest, it will go, I have a tub of alcohol, I pour it all over my nude body. Not even that far from what we do

and we come in from outside. Yeah, no, I know, I know what it's like. It's, but you know what, listen, we're getting through it. The curve has flattened in New York. President Trump has declared himself a dictator, officially now out loud. Now he've been, everybody heard him say it. And, and all is right with the world.

Everything's gonna be fine. Everything's gonna work out. The economy's gonna come back better than ever. Come roaring back in the next, I'd say, you know, probably a week or so. I think everything's gonna be ready to go. And we're good. We're out of the woods.

Vaccine, I did it out. Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished. Get that motherfucker a mission accomplished manor and put it up every time he steps to the podium. No, imagine, yeah, it's like, imagine, it's like Groundhog Day. It's like, it's like, it's like,

if that part of George Bush's presidency where he was like, we won the Iraq war and he was on the deck of the ship with the mission accomplished banner, but if that was every day, like he just kept coming out, it was like, we did it. Anyhow, we did it, y'all.

Or however he talked on every remember, that was literally Ross Perot's what that voice was. Nobody remembers Ross Perot. He was really the original Bernie Sanders. That's how I think of him. Okay, Anyhow, we're not going to talk about Bernie. You want to have a Bernie? You don't talk about Bernie, do you? I really, really want to talk about politics at all today. Let's talk about technology. Let's talk about gadgets and gizmos and a planet and and thing in the news and watch them. McCallots. Let's talk about the candy watch McCollot

and fucking little mermaid up in this page. What does that mean? It's, she, in her song, she's like, I got gages and gizmos aplenty. I got who's it and what's it's go low? Who's it's and what's it's that's the deal? You want to think of a bomb? She's got 20.

Oh boy, who cares? No big deal. Tomorrow podcast. All who's it's all what's it's. Oh boy. Who cares? No big deal. Tomorrow podcasts. All who's it? All what's it? All the time. Anyhow. All right, so look, let's talk.

Let's talk. Talk. First off, let me tell you about some things that I'm personally excited about right now in the world of technology. I don't know if you saw this. I had to write a quick blog post on it. So I was so excited.

The somebody made a version of PT, the Hideo Kijima, Hideo Kijima. I'm definitely mispronouncing both parts of his name. He was going to make a Silent Hill remake or Silent Hill reboot called Silent Hills. Anyhow, they really says, demo PT. We've talked about it extensively on this podcast because I bought a PlayStation 4 with the PT demo on it and have been unable to you have to do some insane hack To like get it to work like this was including but not limited to like having Chris Grant the wonderful lovely editor-in-chief of Polygon Like give me his account to log in with so I could like play the game and it was still like oh no You have to like re-download it and hehow, long and short of PT is this amazing survival horror demo.

Anyhow, whatever. Somebody made a hypercard version of PT. Hypercard, I hold a special place in my heart because when I first got my Mac, hypercard was this like application that came with it. I mean, by the time I had a Mac, it like came pre-installed. And it was like, you could like make little like weird applications in it

and make like weird like interactive like stories and slideshows and games. And like, it was like, you could make a little weird applications in it and make weird interactive stories and slideshows and games. And it was really cool. And it was for a person who doesn't know how to code. Like basically, it was a visual interactive. It was like macro media director, but way less, I don't know, colorful. Hypercard is awesome. Hypercard rule.

Hypercard was great. OK, so anyhow, so somebody made a version of PT in Hypercard that you can get now, which is completely insane. So I wrote a little blog post on yesterday, which I thought was, you know, it's always nice when you can take a break from COVID-19 and step into a world of like demonic horror, where you die.

I have to say, this developer Ryan Trawick who did it. Trawick, Trawick, Trawick, Trawick, we don't know. I love that this dude was just hanging out, you know, playing around with a hyper card on his Apple 2GS and he said, you know what? Yeah, I want there to be a copy of PT for this. That's right. And he did it. So great. He made it real. He birthed it. He birthed it into the into the world. And anyhow, it's an exciting time. So, so we were I wrote a little thing about that. I was very like excited about the concept. I have not played it yet. It's on itch.io or itchio as some people

refer to it. And I wish I think has been a great, we've talked about this multiple times in the podcast, but a great source of joy for me in these dark times, just to find weird indie games and stuff and give give people my harder and money for the hard work and the cool things that they make. But anyhow, so today there was a, so we had a little bit of like, it's been a while. I feel like it feels like it's been a while since there's been like real tech news. I mean, so today there was a, so we had a little bit of like, it's been a while, I feel like it feels like it's been a while since there's been like real tech news. I mean, no Apple released like a new iPad, but it's such an incremental thing.

It's kind of like, I may guess all of the shit's incremental that I'm about to talk about, but one plus a release to phone, new phone, one plus eight pro. And I, you know, I used to want to get every phone that was released. And now I don't because of coronavirus. And now I'm like, I gotta, you know, start a farm and get off the grid. But this new phone seems really good. It's an Android phone. Ray reviewed it for the website.

You can check it out at inputmag.com. And it's like really fast. The camera seemed really good. It has like a no notch screen, which I love. The E1 Plus has been progressively making better and more interesting phones. And I think it's cool that like basically like the camera outperforms Samsung's latest camera.

It is almost as good as the iPhone. And I think that's like, I don't know, I'm kind of interested. I'm excited. I kind of want one. I shouldn't buy it. I shouldn't. It'll be a bad use of my funds, but I might have to. And it's weird to me because OnePlus is always on the cycle, which is like, they always come out with something that's like a little bit better than everything else in the market. And you're like, Oh my God, this is really cool. Like I really would love to own this. But then in like a month or two, there's something else. And it just never feels like it's given its moment to shine. And so Ray came back

after reviewing this phone and was like, it's really great. And it's not, you know, it's expensive, but it's not like, it's not that much more expensive than anything else in the market. And it's really beautiful. And like he was like, I love using it. But I just, I now have this reaction with OnePlus where I'm like, I feel like Samsung is gonna blow you out of the water in a month or two

or something. Well, they do, I mean, sure. I mean, maybe, I don't know. I just think, look, Android phones are, it looked, it's like this, okay. People who buy iPhones are not buying Android phones. People who buy Android phones are not buying iPhones. Excuse me, hold on, I have to clear my throat.

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I mean, that's my new thing. It's like definitely on the wine that I'm drinking. You like getting diseases from here? Delivery wine, that's a new thing. That's my new thing. The hot new trend is getting diseases from delivered wine. Anyhow, but you know, I think, so this is really just about like,

and again, this is not that exciting, I mean, it's a phone. But, it is, I was like sort of like, oh, maybe I'll get the new Samsung for no reason, except that I have a problem with getting new phones. And then I saw it and we did a review and I was like, oh, it's really, and it doesn't seem that good. It doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

It doesn't seem like a huge upgrade. I do miss Android all the time. I use an iPhone now and as you know, because Zelda is an iPhone user. You know, Zelda, everybody's on I message now, so I'm stuck, which is fine. It's fine. It doesn't matter.

But I do miss Android a lot. And whenever I see a new Android phone, especially when it's good and rate says this one is really good, It doesn't matter. But I do miss Android a lot. And whenever I see a new Android phone, especially when it's good and Ray says this one is really good, I'm kind of like, man, I want to go back. But I know in my heart that I can't go back. And so why am I even talking about it? I can't go back because I would have to be abandoned my family from a messaging perspective, which is simply not possible.

Especially in this, isn't it crazy though, that like in the age of COVID, like we, everybody's like zoom and house party and all these like apps that nobody really gave us should about now all of a sudden we like depend on them. But if Apple had like opened up the standard for FaceTime and I message, they would have owned all of us.

Yeah, it's, this is actually something I found really interesting is that I mean This is a larger topic about how many People are in the space of like video conferencing and video like call apps Like I mean there's so many people who are in the space that have absolutely blown it like I mean teams Microsoft teams apparently seems to be like there's like an uptick in its use for that I've never used it like it's just not a We don't use teams on our team. So

but but like Skype and Google all Google has like four different apps that do this FaceTime obviously. I mean, there's like so many WhatsApp has like some video stuff or whatever Facebook But nobody it's crazy because like zoom has just become the de facto, just completely crush the competition. It is just so weird because it's like just corporate software. Yeah, it just came out, but it also came out of nowhere. Like, like, we had started using Zoom at BDG. They were like, we're going to start using this new video cards. I'm like, oh, great. Like, they were like, they also were like, you really should be using Zoom. We would really like, if you were using Zoom and we were like, okay. Yeah, we like, sure. Yeah, we were like, sure.

And then we kept doing Hangouts or whatever. But then it turns out Zoom is actually much better at almost everything that Hangouts tries to do. Like audio quality. You covered the security in privacy. Oh yeah, except for security in privacy. But like audio quality and video quality and just features that are good for participating

in a large group video chat. But it's just crazy to see how, like how could Microsoft have not like fine tuned its tools? Like Skype was like the de facto. I mean, back in the day Skype was like, oh yeah, like you're gonna Skype with somebody that was just like a thing you did. I mean, Craig, one of our editors, I think,

was like it used to be a verb, which is true. It's like let's Skype, you know? Now it's like, be able to even know what it is. They spent like $8 billion on it. Like literally, I think it was $8 billion. And it's like, it's a even know what it is. They spent like $8 billion on it. Literally, I think it was $8 billion. It's like it's a dead product as far as I can tell. Because what Microsoft does is they have a ton of enterprise contracts, and their rolled out is infrastructure.

Then they have a team of developers that sit around and wait for something interesting to happen in productivity software. And then when something interesting happens, they just duplicate it faster than the other competitor who had a new idea, can gobble up market share. And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. And it's basically what Facebook does with social networks now, right? Like, whatever a social network pops off or like a future pops off, Facebook just quickly clones it and tries to stitch it into Instagram or Facebook proper. And if it doesn't work, it

doesn't work. And if it does work, then they, you know, claim that their geniuses. And it's, it's a little weird and depressing. Like it feels like, at Microsoft Teams has always been like a, oh, look, Slack exists product. I've never heard anything from Microsoft Teams that wasn't like, oh, my company's making me use Teams. And like we're not allowed to do Slack. Right. I'm, you know? Yeah, I mean, it's, yeah.

You're thinking about, sorry, just going back to your FaceTime comment, it is interesting to think what might have happened if Apple had, I mean, do they care, I guess? Do they care if they're, you know, do they wanna capitalize on this moment in that way? Like, do they wanna be a social network? Do they wanna be like a place where lots of people

can zoom for lots of different reasons? Or it can, like, see, just did it, where people can have video chats for lots of different reasons, or was FaceTime always intended to be much more of a one-to-one thing? I mean, I know they have you can do group FaceTime, but like it's kind of a band-in-where feature is from what I can tell, like they haven't really, they don't push it that hard. It's weird because it's like Microsoft wanted to own the operating system because they thought

that that would give them control over the hardware and Apple on the hardware because they thought it would give them control over the operating system. And now both of them are just sort of like existing, like they're too big at this point to like actually do anything exciting. And so like Apple's main goal right now is just to like sell you gadgets with the vague promise that they'll protect you from the apps that you install on their gadgets. Right. You know what I mean?

We're in such a weird place now. And like Google obviously can't make that promise because they're the ones who want that data that they would have to protect you from. But it's just weird. And like, you know, we're doing this contact tracing. We wrote about how Apple is doing contact tracing through Bluetooth and like they've teamed up with Google who, you know, they want to make it so that every time you come in contact with someone your phones will exchange keys and then if you get coronavirus you can flag it and then everyone you were in contact close proximity with a contact

I know if it can you sin yeah, yeah, they want to do this whole project and it's just weird because like it's from two companies who have completely different opinions on privacy and data and also just like, it's a weird thing from Apple because it's sort of an admission that they could turn on about right, get all of our data. Right. They've perfectly built out a system that they say that they don't want.

But it's like in our homes and lives all the time already. They're like, oh, you know, actually, it turns out we can track your every movement. That's funny. Like we just flip the chicken. We actually hear that. I wish we could do that. Oh, there's a little button here.

Like Tim Cook was like, you know, had his hand under his desk. I said, was there's a little toggle here? And they're like, oh, Mr. Cook, that's the start track it everybody button. He's like, oh, I didn't know we didn't solve that. That's not interesting. That's wonderful. It's got his signature on it. But it's funny is that it's like it's like the virus has been very revealing about a lot of things. But one of the things that's revealed to me is that like the stickers have fallen off of everyone's products and have come to realize that everyone just makes the same thing.

Like, especially with the looming Xbox series X versus PS5 conversation where it's like the more I read about the two of them, the more I'm like, yeah, these are just gaming computers. They're fucking, they're gaming PCs. I mean, I will say, look, the most exciting thing to me about, if we want to dip into that for a moment, is I will say that, you know, they had this like, insanely bad PS5 thing where they went through like, it's like, it's guts, and they talked about it to architecture.

I forget who the guy is, now I'm blanking on his name, but people were like, he looks just like Danny Carvey, nobody knows who Danny Carvey is, but at any rate. But what was exciting was like, the load time thing, where they basically was like, this is going to load game so quickly that we may have to slow it down, because it'll be disorienting for people for things to load as quickly as they'll load. I will say one of the things I noticed no matter what I'm playing.

I mean, PS4 is brutal. Playing control on the PS4 is like a nightmare because you have to reload every sequence and it takes like, it takes like a long time. Like maybe minutes sometimes it feels like, maybe even like 30 seconds, but 30 seconds when you're like in the middle of playing and then you die and you're like,

oh, gotta like restart this. And it's like, let me wait, 30 seconds to a minute is insane. So I'm excited about the idea that these systems can like, will have like an architecture that will allow that to happen. But in terms of graphics performance, and I do think that like, I do think that, you know, they're going to be able to get some pretty amazing performance out of them. But then we are talking about like, essentially like PC architecture. And, you know, that stuff's available now. Like you can get really

crazy graphics cards and see really crazy performance on games today. If you want to, um, I will say though that the load time thing is still not solved on PC's. You know, matter how fast your computer is. I have a very fast game. I mean, that's super interesting to me because it just changes the way that you develop games. I like it. Game could be could be endlessly large without any, you would never have to stop, you know? Like, you would never have to wait for something to happen. Like, you could just go where, you know,

and think about like, you can have a game that's the size of America literally, you know, and just like keep going because it would just load the stuff, right? Like, yeah. Like, that's crazy to think about. It's crazy to imagine the way people might make games where you don't have to like, go like, okay, we are now leaving this scene that we've created

and you are going to another scene. Like that is not gonna happen. I think at least with the PS5 and I assume the architecture will be very similar on the Xbox. I mean, one thing I've been playing, I talked about this before, but I've been playing zombie, aka zombie you, on my, you know, that game was made in, I want to say 2013. Let me, let me just, I want to look this up.

2012, November 18, 2012. So I'm playing, I'm playing zombie on, which is just zombie, I'm playing it on my gaming PC that I just built which has like a very fast i7 and a very fast GPU and the load times it has cut scenes like it has these like load scenes that are like in between when you go to major areas but but they are now so greatly reduced that it barely gets into them, and you can skip them and start playing. It is, I believe, a taste of what it will be like for if you think about the current state of big games, and the way they have those loads,

like controls a great example if you've played it. But to me, it's the idea that you would not experience that, and you would just fluidly move from one big set piece to another is like kind of exciting, very exciting to me. I know we got way out, I forget what we were talking about or way off topic of it now, but oh, you're the how a coronavirus has made you less excited about the new Xbox. Well, I was going to say the, with the load time thing, I've been playing the Final Fantasy 7 remake. I've actually got to start it.

I got to play four hours at like an embargoed press thing and then I obviously didn't get to keep that save file. So then I started playing it when I got my copy the day it was released and I said, John, can you just install the install desk for me while I finish up work and then I'll play whenever it's done? He was like, sure. So I started playing and I realized I was playing on his profile and earning him trophies.

And like, he got the save file. So I was like, fuck. So then I restarted it again. And I am now on my third play of the first four to five hours of Final Fantasy VII Remake. Again, I don't't wanna talk about it, but the funny thing is, is that for the most part,

you can't tell that it's a remake of a game from the 90s. They very artfully have made it so even the level layouts don't feel- Is it like, is it all real-time 3D now? Is it like the Resident Evil games, the remakes? It's closer to, yes, it's closer to an action RPG on a like Kingdom Hearts combat style and it is like a term based.

Right, but I like it. I can, I'm gonna watch some, I'm gonna watch some, I'm gonna watch some, I'm gonna watch some videos. Well, it's interesting because it like when you hit, when you go into the contextual menus to pull up spells or items or whatever, it does pause the action. And it goes into this very slow, slow, slow, slow, slow, slow stylized slow motion. And you can switch between characters live while they're battling.

And whenever you switch away, the AI takes over for the character that you were playing. And so it can feel turn-based sometimes, but it also isn't. It's the perfect hybrid, and I really, really like it. It's very tight, it's very addictive. How's the story? Awesome. I download a Final Fantasy VII from my,

oh wow, this looks really cool. The story's phenomenal, and so weirdly, so relevant and prescient, and it feels great. It's just like the perfect thing to come out right now. It's about like the environment and like big government and all this stuff, it's great. But what's interesting to me is that even though all of it is super updated, it still manages

to take advantage of the, you know, whenever you need to hide loading and this was sort of developed in that, so that fifth generation of games was the first that had like optical disk that you would need to load stuff off of on the Sega Saturn or the PlayStation 1. And so in order to hide that, sometimes they would do loading screens,

sometimes they would put many games loading screens. Other times they would make it so you'd have to do things like, you know, one character is walking over to push a button and you have to push a button and then the door's shake and then they take a second and then they open then you go to the next area and then it deletes the like what was in the ram for the old area and so it feels like you have to do all these little tasks but really it's to cover up for the fact that they have to load the next environment off of the dead. But what's interesting is that they still have to do that

because there's such an ambitiously remade environment. Now there's so much fun. So you're basically like, so now they're still doing the load gating. So when you go to like get on the elevator, you still have to go jump through these two bit of hoos. Oh, the elevator loading is brutal. Like have you played the new Star Wars game,

the fallen order or whatever? I've watched yeah, well, they have like they have a lot They have like there's a lot of sequences in that game where there's like elevator loading and I'm like It's I'm like is something wrong with this game like why am I on the elevator for this long? It's like a really long trip on the elevator and I'm like oh, it's loading a whole bunch of stuff like I'm watching this game right now I have to say I'm watching Final Fantasy VII. So I never played the original. I downloaded the original from my Switch, I believe. Or like they have like, you know,

a reissue of the original version. Yeah, it's a terrible port of the original version. Well, I was like, yeah, this is not gonna hold my attention. It's just like too dated and I'm not. The couple of things stand out to me. One, this game looks pretty cool and I feel like it's a game that I would enjoy playing based on what I'm seeing.

And you would be so addicted to Final Fantasy. So the other thing is that this sword that he's using seems very impractical. I mean, it's so large. Why would anybody need a sword? The sword is literally the size of his body. How it is? I don't understand why you would want to sword that big.

Like, just leave you have to understand, it was the 90s and we were on drugs So it seems like it's like it's like a rave sword. It's like he used this for dancing Is there dancing in this game? I bet there is I bet there's actually is dancing in this yeah, huh? Unsurprised me. Wow. This is cool. This is like a weird. It's like it it's like Resident Evil meets Metal Gear meets like, uh, I don't know, like a hot topic like Ease Book 1 and 2, like, yeah, that is basically what you um, are you in this warehouse the whole time? This is just the first 45 minutes of gameplay, so I don't know, I'm just looking at it. No, um, so the game has also been broken, so the original

release was super long and it came out on multiple discs and this releases super long and came out on multiple discs, but they're also like breaking it up into parts like the last Harry Potter movie because it is such a huge game. Right.

So they're doing like DLC. But, or no, no, they're gonna release a second, like a part two. Oh, but you pay for the game and you get part two. No, no, no, you have to pay for what. I mean, they're like, you're like, here's pay $60 for this game.

And then soon there'll be another $60 game. It'll be like Final Fantasy VII part two. Yes, that's cool. That's cool. That's good. Games are the hunger games. I totally understand it. Games are very Hunger Games. I totally understand it. Games are very expensive though.

Like, I've spent so much money on games during the coronavirus lockdown. Like, it's truly staggering. And like, now Zeld has got a switch. I bought her a switch light. And she's into games. And by the way, there are turns that there are games that are perfect for Zeld.

There's like literally a game where you like are like a horse girl or you ride horse. You know, like the horse, you know, girls like horses. She's like into horses and unicorns, you know, which is like, honestly, I don't know where it came from, it just happened. But so she's, there's like a game. That's what happens with girls.

I know, girls just suddenly one day they love horses. I don't know, yeah, I don't know anyhow, but, but well, I mean, she watches my little pony and stuff. So, I mean, obviously, something to do with it. Um, but, which is a really good show turns out, and I enjoy it. And I guess I'm a brony. Um, but oh, well, oh no, we should talk about, but anyhow, so she got, there's like games that are like kind of bad. I feel bad buying them for her, but like she likes them a lot. They're like kind of like shitty like what developers this they made a game where like, you like clean a horse and ride a horse and

like, go on some like horse races and like It's like not a game, but it's it fills it fulfills some like thing that she really wants to do which is like Get on like she wants to ride a horse basically, you know I was thinking about that the other day was that there I pulled out the copy of Batman returns I think for think, for Genesis. And I was playing it. And I was like, this is one of like two games I owned when I first got a Genesis. And I played like, constantly, because it was all I had. And I made it to the second level.

And I was like, oh, I never made it to the second level. I just wanted to be Batman for a little while. Yeah. Oh, no, I was playing like Streets of Rage or something. And I was like, oh, like, I'm at the end of the game. Like, I don't know if I've ever, I was playing like streets of rage or something and I was like, oh, like I'm at the end of the game Like I don't know if I've ever I was playing Super Mario I was playing Super Mario 3 on my switch which the game I basically never played and I'm like, oh this gets really weird Like there's some crazy shit in this game like I don't think I've ever played past like the second level of Super Mario

The original, you know, like it's just never it was never a thing that I wanted to do I like I'd play it. I wanted to play it, but there was no sense of like, I got to finish this or beat it or whatever. Some games were, I mean, I had other games, obviously, that were that I was more intense about in the midst because I was younger when I played those games, but like, you know, I was super intense about Pokemon. Like, I was like a psycho.

Like, I had stats and numbers and I was doing calculations and like, I was like a baseball child about Pokemon. But what's interesting is now that we're all trapped in our homes, everybody likes video games all of a sudden. Like now all people are coming out of the woodwork and they're like, you have any recommendations? Everyone's got people tweeting about like animal crossing at me.

We're a gamer, we're living in gamer universe, you know? And I'm not complaining. This is gamer, ran a smart game. It's a gamer gate. So the Final Fantasy seven looks pretty good. So let me talk for a second. We're jumping around a little bit.

Let me talk for a second about another thing that has happened. Durel, listen, what, what are we going to do? What are we going to have a formal round table discussion? I know. We're all fucking trapped in our houses. What are we going to talk about? I don't know. It's possible.

We had a massive storm here yesterday. Horrible rain, horrible wind, trees down, power out. Not we didn't lose our power. It was so good. It was very violent. Zelda in the last few days has become obsessed with something. And I think I need to just go and sit. She has become obsessed with teenageage Mutant Ninja Turtles,

the 1987 cartoon series. And I don't know exactly what happened. Well, here's something that's really weird. So Laura was like, I wonder if she'd like the cartoons that we watch when we were kids. She's like, oh, I love like TMNT. I was like, really into that show. I was like, oh my God, me too.

I also like read the comics. Like I knew I read, I had TMNT comics before the show existed. When the show came on, because I was a little comics nerd, when the show came on, and I would have been 10 years old when the show started airing. I think I had already known the comics. I was kind of like, oh, this isn't like the comics. They have different color like headbands, which is they did not in the comics. They were all, they all had like matching headbands. Kids are so sensitive to like a little design changes on things. Yeah.

Well, they, they also made it obviously much more like the comic was actually for adults really. It wasn't for kids. Yeah, but like, but like that stuff sticks out to kids in a major way. I remember when they redesigned the animated Batman and I was like, so upset. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And any rate. So no, that's you're totally right. It is like, I think they're very sensitive to those. They noticed. They just noticed. We, I feel like adults, you just noticed a lot less. But um, so, yes, so anyhow, so Laura was like, I wonder if she'd like this like Teenage Mutuals or Inspector gadget.

I'm like, oh yeah. We should show her some. And I showed her, the only place I could find Teenage Mutant Turtles was literally like Daily Motion. I don't know what's going on with Daily Motion. I don't know what kind of weird racket Daily, I mean, it's like straight up just boot leg stuff on Daily Motion that you can watch.

You know, I'm not complaining. I'm just saying it's very suspicious. But, so we started watching some and she was like really into it. And I have to say like, at first I was like, oh, this show is like kind of violent or weird or like, and it definitely has like, has some questionable depictions of like, Japanese people and the Japanese culture, I would say. It definitely has, it definitely is like kind of sexist.

Like, there's a character in the show who is like boy crazy and is always talking about like getting dates and stuff. And I'm like, every super rude to April O'Neill who is the female reporter who is friends with the turtles. They're really rude to her, all of the her co-workers. I would say, but overall, those are very, very minor, small things that I don't think Zelda has is processing cause she's too busy like complaining about like shredder and crying. She's like obsessed with like, she likes the villains.

She's very interested, very interested in shredder and crying and was mad the other day. She was like, they need a new villain because shredder like keeps losing. I was like, so you want like a villain to beat the turtles. Is that what I am I hear? That was me. I used to say, why does Rita repost the Let the Power Rangers beat up the monster? Why not before the even transform, make the monster huge, let it crush their town while they're asleep and then just conquer

the world. We're going to a different part of the world and where the Power Rangers aren't. Like I used to get so frustrated because I wasn't rooting for the Power Rangers. Well, I think she's also, she's also, she's watching them in one after another. One of the things I noticed that was interesting is that in the early episodes, the show is actually serialized.

So like each episode leads into another, like there's a story going on that connects through multiple episodes, which I thought was really interesting. The first many of the first episodes are written by co-written by a woman, which I thought was interesting, and I do think there's a change. This is my, like, now I'm like a doctor, like I have a PhD in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the 1997 cartoon. I do think there's a shift in tone. All of us right now, but it's funny because we showed her Inspector Gadget and she was like not interested in this at all. Not just for whatever reason, just doesn't

care, but fully into TNT and Digital Turtles. So here's the thing. So as a result of the of the TNT and Digital Turtles situation, I was like, man, I got to get her like a more reliable way to watch this because I was literally like searching for each episode on Daily motion. So the only way you can really get it you can buy a DVD, which like I'm not gonna do or you can or you can torrent it and As a result of this new interest in teenage units turtles I have become a huge fan of this thing called put.io which Evan Rogers wrote about for input.

And I think it is the greatest, one of the greatest fucking things in the world. It is not that cheap, but I think you get what you pay for in a real way. Put I always basically this thing, I mean, we talked about it already, but like, do you use it? Do you have it? I have, like I'm on Evan's family. Okay, you are. Okay. So, so, put it, I was this amazing thing where you have basically a self-contained, like media,

server, and torrenting, like, program. Like, it's like, Plex Plus transmission in the class. Yes, yes. So Plex, I didn't really get, I wasn't a Plex user, I haven't been a Plex user, I never really, but this to me makes perfect sense. Like there are things that I will torrent because they are very hard to find or not even available. Like I have torrented things, or listen,

sometimes I'll torrent things because I went to see the movie in the theater and I wanna watch it again and I'm not gonna buy it when it comes out, meanwhile I buy all the new Star Wars movies. I will make every piracy argument in the book because I am a huge proponent of like, listen, if I've already paid for it and you're not providing it to me, that's your problem.

And also, I think anybody who can afford things should be able to have them, especially if they're digital things that are... The person already got paid for this month, and you can copy it as many times as you want. It's a cartoon from the 80s. Everybody got to get it. Oh, no, right. Yeah, I mean, we're done. And they've also made it impossible to get. But I will say this, on the piracy thing, it's like,

I purchased an enormous amount of things, on iTunes and on Amazon. I pay for a ton of streaming services. The amount of charging I do is relatively minimal, but sometimes you've got to do it. In this case, I had to do it, but what is amazing, and it's not cheap. I'm paying like, it's like $200 a year. I got the one terabyte plan, so it's $200 a year for a terabyte of storage. But it does a couple of things that are amazing. One is it has an app you can put on an iPad or on a phone or on Apple TV and you can just load up your library there. Like you don't have to

fool around with like trying to figure out how you're going to play something and using weird like I use this app called Beamer, I've even been using it forever. I used to download stuff on my PC, then I would upload that to Google Drive, then download it from Google Drive to my phone and use the open in before you had a file system, open in and open it in BLC, and if it didn't play,

then I would screw it and I just wasted too much of time, and if it did play, then it worked. If I ever, that was how I did every time I traveled. If I ever torrent something, the way I had been doing it was like, I torn it to my Mac, then I would use this app called Beamer to play, basically using AirPlay to play from a playlist in Beamer to the Apple TV.

But it's like, you know, a pretty janky. But honestly, again, I pay for every Prestige channel. I pay for cable, I pay for YouTube TV. I pay for Netflix, I have a subscription to the AMC movie. Like I have all of this shit because it is part of my job and it is ridiculous that sometimes I'm looking for something and it's like you can't have that. And it's like well you have to pay for it on YouTube TV

and every episode is $8. Like what? To what end? Why? Like I fuck it. And the fact that like I end up having to jump through all these hoops, it's like, especially nowadays, where I'll trapped in our homes and most people aren't working,

I'm just like, put.io is genius, a torrent software is incredible. Well, yeah, it's a silver bullet. And so now I'm like, I she can watch the actual thing she wants to watch and it's not like she's getting weird daily emotion shit. But one thing I realize that's insane is that season, she's on season three.

Now season one is like five or six episodes is really weirdly short, like maybe they didn't know if it was gonna be successful. Then season two is like 13 episodes. You're like, okay, that's a normal season. Season three of Teenage Mutant Tutorials, the Animated Series by where there are 10 seasons, has 47 episodes in it.

47, 47, 20, so is that. So is that. Yeah. It's like completely. Pitches are like that. They made that was the same name of Power Rangers. There was like 50 episodes in the first season.

And I was like, what? And then it's because I only watched Power Rangers for two years, but it left a huge impression on me because for two years, every week, there was a new episode every day on me because for two years, every week, there was a new episode and the way... Right, it's like every day, right? It's like, there's five days a week, there was an episode.

I don't know if it was true for Power Rangers, but for TMNT, it apparently was. And so anyhow, there's a ton of it, and she's just burning through it, and it's just insane. It's like, that's really cute. It's very cute. I think for the most part it is fine.

By comparison, it's very light. You know, it literally is very formulaic. It's like shredder and crang. I mean, the whole story of shredder and crang is interesting. I mean, one thing, I just want to get into this a little bit. I know most of the fans, I know Tony, our number one tomorrow fan was like, when are they gonna talk about crying more? You know, the relationship between shredder and crying is really interesting. I mean, the show begins with this whole, you know, there's this rivalry between shredder

and splinter, and they were at the, you know, they were at the same like dojo, they were like ninjas in Japan, training in Japan or whatever, and then shredder like sabotage, basically got splinter kicked out. But then he followed him to America. It's not clear what happens, but he takes over the foot clan, which is the clan of their part of. Yes, accept, hold on, yes, but.

So they have this big rivalry, then Shredder becomes the leader of the foot clan, and he turns the foot clan into a criminal organization. Like so far, like this totally checks out. Then for some reason, because like splinter, the rat master of the change between the tutorials, is like he like flees to America, to New York, and then Shredder to be the original pizza wrap.

Yeah, to the truly, actually he doesn't like pizza. That's one of the storylines of the show is that he hates pizza and he finds the turtles to be like really annoying because they're always like messing up their sewer hangout or whatever. But like, they're sewer home. But he has shredder follows splinter for some reason.

It's not clear. And shredder is responsible for mutating the turtles. You know, basically splinter gets these turtle pets and they he has them down in the sewer. And then like shredder like pours some mutagen like on them and turns them into, you know, TNG to turtles and turns splinter into a rat. None of it makes a lot of sense. But I mean, you know, he's like a rat person and they're like turtle people. But so then at some point, like, and I missed this episode, Zeldos watching, we talked

about it a little bit, like, Krang shows up and Krang is like a brain from something called Dimension X. I believe he's like a brain that talks and has tentacles. And he's like, I want a body and he's like, sort of like one of shredder's underlings and shredder's underlings. And he's like, you promise you'd give me a body. Like just like an actual plot line in the show. Like the shredder is like trying to like create a body to put crying in. And he does eventually. But then something happens where they all get sent

to Dimension X. This is all happening in the show, by the way, in the like the first two seasons. And like, crying can't leave Dimension X because his body won't work outside of dimension X or something. And then shredder becomes kind of like subservient to crying. And it's like crying is actually the person who's behind all of the stuff and shredder is almost like a like a kind of like a bumbling underling of crying.

So there's this weird reversal that happens where shredder becomes like the butt of like So there's this weird reversal that happens where Shredder becomes like the butt of like Crang's jokes and stuff Anyhow, it's a while trip and I just want to say that you know, Zelda and I are taking that journey together, and it's really cool I have no idea what I'm talking about right now I think I was just reciting the plot line of Shredder and Crang from From T.A. Tree to the Turtles, which should give you an idea of where I'm at mentally? Josh reads the two Wikipedia page for crap. Oh, listen, I've been on the, I've been on the crank Wikipedia page, okay? But in fact, I'm actually, I mean, that's where we're all

living right now. I'm looking at it right now to be perfectly honest. Last night, I started putting together my, you know, I got that dreamcast. Now I got the Sega Saturn. I started putting together my like, know, I got that dream cast. Now I got the Sega Saturn. I started putting together my like SD card build for the, or for the Saturn. While John is watching all episodes of 30 Rock,

like we're just fully just, we have, what is it? We have reverted into our childhood forms. And but the, so we're watching 30 Rock, and man, it's weird when you revisit these things through like a different lens. Like, you know, it's one thing to be like, you know, 30 Rock was problematic. Like, yeah, okay. You know, the friends made gay jokes. Like, yeah, I get it. But it's weird watching it because it's like the stuff that I wouldn't even have picked up on even recently. Like, the pilot of 30 Rock Liz Lemon who is played by Tina Fey who wrote and created the show references her own weight in a derogatory way but also to flaunt her skinny Tina Fey is in the pilot like four

times in a weird specific way. And I was like, Tina Fey got a network to give her money to write a script, to make a crew, watch her referent, watch her, make a weird face at multiple men calling her fat and then telling her her weight is actually really a really low weight. And it's like stuff like that that you're like, I've never really sat and meditated on the fact that like that's what we like, I've never really sat and meditated on the fact that like,

that's what we called feminism in 2006. And like, it's just being trapped in my house has given me the perspective of being able to like, especially someone with ADHD, I have truly have no distractions. I'm just the things that are in front of me. I have to take apart and I'm like fully researching. And John and I are in these hour long discussions about things that like would never have occurred to us. We were watching little fires everywhere on Hulu, which is good. The book was way better, but it was good. It's good. Reservoir has been good. The casting on that show is incredible, but they played Meredith Brooks's bitch at one point. they played like a cover-up. Yeah. Cause this show takes place in the 90s.

Right. And John and I just got into like an hour-long discussion of that song and how that song, you know what? Straight up fucking rips. That's all the rules. Fuck everybody. I don't know if it's cheesy. She is.

She's a bitch. She's a lover. She's a child. She is a mother. Wow. And we're like, and we're in the talk. I mean, she, mother though. You know what?

In that song, she was my mother. She can't be, she can't. Okay, I feel like we're just, we're all now so hyper focused on things that maybe it's good because I think for a long time, we did not as a society have the time to be philosophical or to actually think critically about things. We were so busy jumping between notifications

and our phones and our meetings and going to this thing and And then I had a party to go to and concerts to this ticket. And then there's another Marvel movie out next weekend. So we don't really have time to talk about that one. And there's no water cooler moments because we're all watching things at different times. So we're not really sitting around talking about a thing that we all watch. Now we are all stuck in our houses watching Tiger King and then forced to turn to the person next to us and be like, what did you think? And like, we haven't had time to be philosophical or like critical about media or relationships or literature in a long time. And maybe it's good that like, I'm relearning how to get a little

bit stoned and talk about Meredith Brooks because like maybe I like I like that song And I always thought like oh, it's a cheesy favorite of mine, but like you know And nowadays I'm like this is basic in this isn't like this is for normies in this isn't and you know Maybe it's good if I like sit down and I like actually analyze the things that normies like that I like or the things that normies like that I don't like and think like, what even is a normie? You know what I mean? These stupid concepts that seems to purfluous

to the business of getting things done or the business of consuming all of the shows and binging everything and hearing every album that just dropped and getting every Twitter update. And just we were just packing so much shit in. Our backlog of games are like pile of books that were, quote unquote, important. All the tabs we had open, all the Insta Paper articles,

the YouTube feed, TikToks, like, we had to keep up with this glut of shit on top of our jobs, on top of our part-time jobs, on top of our volunteer work. And it's like, I think maybe, this all sucks. And people are dying for this to happen, literally. but maybe it's good that we all had to like sit the fuck down. Well, no, you know what I mean? There's no question that there's gonna be some long-term upside from this. I mean, obviously it's a horrible situation and I fucking hate the coronavirus and I wish to god it had never happened.

And if there was anything I could possibly do to end it, I would fucking do it. 100% like I would if I could snap my fingers and make this never happen. Like the good fight did an episode where their season four premiere was set in the universe of Hillary one and it was so painful. And they the whole lesson is like, well, me too happened because Trump got elected. We had the political motivation to go and do something we would have never done. And like that's really good. And that's just overlining.

And it's like, yeah, but if I could snap my finger that we were missing. That's cool, but I'll take, not having Trump as president. Like, I'm sorry. But so to be clear, this is a fucking night, we're living in a fucking nightmare. But yeah, there are these upside, I mean, I think I've changed a lot of my thinking

and my habits and what I think is important. Honestly, a lot of what I used to think was important feels really unimportant to me now. And I'm like, stuff that I, you know, worried over is, I don't even think about it anymore. There are things that just are like, I don't give a shit. Like, I don't, like, like, 100%. Like, I truly do not, I think I come off as unhinged on social media or like in our Zoom calls with work, like, all the way.

Yeah, couldn't wait. I'm just like, but like, cool, fine. I'm just, I'm telling everybody what I think, when I think it, I mean, this was never like a huge problem. Not a huge issue, no. But it is? No. But I really appreciate it now because I'm like, why am I wasting your time? I know what, I know. But it is? No. No, but I really appreciate it now because I'm like,

why am I wasting your time? I know what you're doing. And also all my social awkwardness and my apologizing for taking up people's times and my opening emails with, hey, I'm so sorry about this, but if you could, it would mean so much to me. Thank you so much. I'm just like, here's what I want.

Yeah. Can you give that to me? Someone's like, no, and I'm like, well, fuck you and they're like, fuck you too. And I'm like, bye. That's great. Yeah, I think social awkwardness is good. I think also, I think also, it's like, no, and I'm like, well, fuck you, and they're like, fuck you too. And I'm like, bye. That's great. Yeah, I think social awkwardness is good. I think also, I think also it's like, you know,

how we spend our money, how we spend our time, what we, you know, who we value, being around, what experiences we value, I feel like that's all, you know, there's been it, I've rethought a lot of that stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah, like that's not actually, some of the stuff that I thought was really important and valuable. Like, even things that, you know, it's just been, look, I just, they're just, they don't feel things don't feel

as present, some things don't feel as present as they used to. Really quickly, sorry, can I just, I just want to go back to crying for a second. I know this is off topic, but because I had the crying, I had the crying Wikipedia open and I was just like glancing at it while we were talking now. And first off, I just read you a little bit about Krabing's backstory. Okay. So he apparently was created for the animated series. He was not in the comic from what I understand. His original background story was that he was a warlord from Dimension Axe who commanded an army of rock soldiers

under the leadership of General Trag and Lieutenant Granator. He took the completed techno drone, a powerful mobile battle fortress for himself, and then banished Drake S, who helped Crang build it to Earth. Eventually, Crang would be banished from Dimension Axe as well, but not before being stripped of his body and reduced to a brain-like form. Okay, that's cool, right? That's great. Let me tell you, I will. There is a version of my soul to be a TV writer for children's car. Oh, my God. It's so crazy. But here's what's really going to blow your mind. Crang at some point was voiced by Roseanne Barr. Okay. Apparently in 2012, in the 2012 series, there is a... I don't know, obviously now we're deep in a... Before the events of the show, the War for Dimension X is an

episode. Before the events of the show, they were this race of whatever Crank's races were peaceful. And until one of them, a female scientist named Crang with two A's, I don't believe Crang has two A's, he only has one. Voice by Rose Ambar and seasons one and two, discovered the mutagen, which is milk from a giant, from giant native worms called craft trogons, craft thra-trogons, anyhow. But Rose Ambar apparently used the milk from the worms to become crying. So also crying subprime was voiced by Gilbert Gottfried. So I don't know what's going on.

Is crying cute? Maybe sort of anyhow, the shit's nuts. Just like reading out like the entry for crying is like pretty lengthy. And by the way, I have to recommend that if you are at home and you have nothing to do, which I know you are and you don't Every once in a while see how the Q and on people are reacting to things because their ability to like mutate their Predictions and their hypotheses and they're like clues has you would think would shut down in the face of

Of all of this but in it has only gotten more powerful, and it's wild. It's hard to tell if any of those people are serious. I mean, honestly, when I read the QAnon stuff, I'm like, these people are all in an extended forechand, like troll of each other. There was some debate about, they were calling kids like mul mold, they were calling like kids like mold children

because they were like living underground, because there's like a network of pedophilia that's going on or whatever. And the whole thing, it sounds like the product of like a fan fiction that was written on Fortchan, which basically is what it is. It's hard to tell, and they were arguing, people were like, it's derogatory to use

the term mold children, please refer to them as underground children or something like that and it's like I think these people are all just in an extended troll of each other and of people who are who believe that QAnna is like a real thing like I kind of have I mean I think maybe really Drain which are very old people say that the trolling thing was to cover that they were real and that, you know, we said that difference between irony. But I mean, like the intelligentsia was like, what's the difference between ironic jokes and what they really mean and what they really mean, they're using sarcasm to cover it up. And it's like, we go back and forth and it's like, maybe we just shouldn't be hanging

out on anonymous message boards picking apart secret messages from the president whether or not we're being like ironic. Like, maybe we just don't do it. Let's just spend our time on other things. There's just a lot of bad stuff out there. I mean, like mental illness in this country, an epidemic, uncharted. I mean, yeah. If you're ironically role playing that you are a QAnon person,

or you are earnestly a QAnon person, your equally mismentally ill. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's probably true. I mean, listen, I mean, we don't know, I mean, you know who cares. I guess this is what I wanna say. What I really wanna say is who cares about the QN and people because they're not part of reality

and they're not real and they won't ever be part of reality because what they think and what they talk about is nonsense. And I do think, getting back to that point that we were talking about about what matters and what does it on the internet. You know, it's like the rage on Twitter. Rage on Twitter is taken on a totally different,

first off, there's less of it, I think. People are, I will say this, not that people aren't still getting mad on Twitter, but when they get mad on Twitter, it seems way less meaningful. Like, oh, you're mad about a political take. Well, the world is in freefall, so who cares? Like, you know what I mean?

Well, everything feels flaccid because we can imagine the person who posted it and what they're doing is there in their box or shorts, you know, on your dip just like we are. Right. Oh god, that sounds good. That sounds really good. Oh, you literally like, you know,

Darth, the guy who's always like posting pictures of dogs and like doing funny photoshop is like, I'm making French fries. It's like, all right buddy. I mean, it's like good for him. I'm just saying it's funny. You know, like, yeah, it's just interesting. But like, yeah, but so, you know, that whole thing,

like I was looking at all this stuff is just, all the political shit that I see now on Twitter is like, to me, see, so unhinged. Like I feel like I only hear from the most unhinged people at this point. Like, not to talk too much about politics, but like I look, you know, Bernie and Biden had like a live stream yesterday, which I didn't even know was going on. Um, and it's like, oh, Bernie's endorsing Biden and it was like obviously a big to do. But what was really, really incredible was like the comments on it, where it was like,

people who were like, and I listen, I get it, there's a lot of disappointment, and I'm disappointed, I really wish that Bernie had been the guy. But some of the comments were like, it was like, as if you were midway through drinking a Coke, okay, you're like, I fucking love Coke.

This is my favorite beverage. I would die for this, I will drink this till the day that I die. This is the shit. And they were like, actually, you're drinking Pepsi. No, that's not a good example. It's like, uh, no, it's like midway through it. They're like, coke was just purchased by, uh, Pepsi. Still coke, still tastes the same. Everything's and they spit it out. They're like, I fucking hate this coke. I will never drink it again. Fuck you, coke, you're dead to me. And it's like, I don't understand. You love this thing so much, and now this thing

is like the devil to you. Like I understand. Let me break it down. Let me explain it to you. What's going on here? I'll totally, I'll tell you what. Anyway, I was just saying what I think. People were like, this is why Bernie was always like

a shit candidate who never was like, it was like literally like people who were like Bernie Literally yesterday they were a Bernie bro two days ago. They were a Bernie bro And now they were like burn him. They're like kill this man put him in prison He's always been a traitor and I've never liked it. Yeah, I'll explain to you what's going on And I say this is someone who likes Bernie has those progressive beliefs and is Foting for Joe Biden. I took a deep breath, I am doing it.

But I'm. However, here let me tell you exactly, I'm gonna break down exactly what's happening. Yes. People are always trying to diagnose the Bernie thing of being like, is this a cult of personality? Will they do whatever he says? These people will throw their lives on the line for him.

But that's like a cult. Or they say like, you know, they won't fall into line with what Bernie said. Bernie told you, and I thought you believed in Bernie's progressive values. If you believe in his progressive values, why don't you believe him? When he tells you the only way to get this shit done

is to go both for Biden. I'm gonna totally just, I'm gonna, all of that does not matter. None of that is true. None of it is relevant. The only thing that is relevant is that these people are deep in grief for the fact that they don't have healthcare. That's it.

And you can swap in healthcare with food to feed their kids or a chance to go to school. But wait, the idea to live out any of their dreams. Some of these people, I understand the president cannot make it so they get to be a pop star, but they grew up thinking that something good was going to happen to them. They were going to have a family. They were going to have anything, anything. And most people never will. But the vast majority of people I see, Bernie said to them, do you feel a little bit of hope? You should, because you deserve it. And then they feel now, like it was taken away from them and that they it wasn't even real. So I thought when a your real time.

I thought when Obama was was running, you know, I was like, you might not under you might not ever be able to understand how it feels to be your age in your position. Your exact self, but have nothing because you don't. I feel like at this point, I can definitely imagine it given the coronavirus. I'm like, you can't because imagine the coronavirus on top of not having health insurance. No, but listen, but I hear of course I agree with what you're saying and totally understand it. What I'm saying is this emotional lashing out is never going to make sense because

emotions don't make sense. But also, by the way, can I just be clear? It is the people that I see saying that are predominantly the people who are like like fuck you, I just want healthcare, which is like the thing to me that like drives me so fucking insane is like, I get you just want healthcare. A lot of people do and everybody should have it. But like, is it possible, could you imagine a situation

where other people want other things and you've got to figure out how to get all the things for everybody together, not like be like, fuck you, I just want healthcare, because fuck you, I just want healthcare. Because fuck you, I just want healthcare. Fuck the people who want other things. The people who want other things, those things don't seem to be real priorities

to the people who are dying. But of course people who are, but people are, but that's, I feel like, what did you want? You want to die more funding for the Air Force? Sorry, I, you know, no, no, no, no, that's not what the people want. I'm saying when people need things,

there are, there are levels of need. Like healthcare is a need. There are people who need things just as badly levels of need. Like, healthcare is a need. There are people who need things just as badly as healthcare that are just as detrimental to their lives, that like they feel they can get. What can Biden give them that, I don't want to get it. Nothing. We all agree Biden is a worse choice for president than Bernie,

would be, in my opinion. I'm going to hear someone explain to me why they want Joe Biden to be president without mentioning Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump. They can't. They can't. They can't because the reason is the reason is very simple. It's Donald Trump. They want. They want something, but like they want something. I'm telling you, I'm sorry. Like the old people like this is just a reality. You can't stop people from wanting the things they want. Just like you can't say, fuck you to people.

Why do you need to get Donald Trump out of office, which I also feel. Imagine if you didn't feel that unhinged need about him because you didn't have time to think about him because you were dying. Or imagine if you couldn't see all of the ways that a person like Biden is different than Donald Trump and all of the ways things could be different

and you were just laser focused on one other candidate because that's the other side of it It's like things will change for people. They're not laser focus on candidate. They literally are like fuck you Bernie No now because Bernie is the kid What's going on? Okay, okay, what they're focused on is the thing that they're desperate for which is like that they're dying I get it But let me just be clear. Let me just be clear. The people on Twitter, the people on Twitter are not even the people who are dying.

The people on Twitter, the people who are talking about the people who are dying. You don't even know that. We don't even go vote. Now, a lot of them, like the Chapa guys. But a couple, the Chapa guys. But a couple of those guys, a couple of those guys, if half of them are just deeply empathetic

to the people who are really in need and half of them are grifters, they're still 0.01% of the people that are really need and half of them are grifters. They're still 0.001% of the people that are upset that Bernie endorsed by them. I'm just saying like, but I'm just saying like, all I want to say is that we said we wouldn't we're gonna talk about this now. Right. Well, I was just thinking about the tone on Twitter, which is just like, people are seeing, I feel like there's less of the create, first off, the Bernie bros have somewhat dissipated

and I'd barely see them now, go figure. But I'm saying that people's freakouts on Twitter seem way less important because there are like real things happening in the world where you're like, actually I'm worried about getting, like, get it be safely going to the grocery store and getting like milk. Like, that's a thing that now,

you know what I'm saying? Obviously there are even worse concerns, right? I'm a person who, you know, I'm saying obviously there are even worse concerns, right? I'm a person who has no insurance and I'm sick and how do I get help? That's obviously much more scary, but I'm saying the level of things that we all worry about now, this was my sort of point, getting away from politics and back to the Twitter and the sort of just like coronavirus mental state that we're all in, is like, I used to look at Twitter and get really worked up.

Like I used to look at the people who were mad about anything, not just could be about fucking, you know, somebody was like, the other day like, Evan, Evan was complaining because he was like, we're trying to return a Samsung phone and they like didn't give him a full refund or something. And there was some guy in his comments who was like, oh, you're like an Apple plant.

You try to shit talk Samsung. And like, there was a time when I'd be like, this guy's fucking asshole, how dare he? Now, I'm like, who cares? So dumb. It's like all this stuff is so dumb. We all have both so much more empathy for each other, but also so much more empathy for ourselves to be like, like, I literally have been saying to myself, like, take it easy on yourself, kid. You know what I mean? Like, I've been like, why am I so depressed?

I need to figure it out. Maybe if I exercise, oh, I don't know. Oh, I'm just gonna lay in bed and agonize over the hours. I'm wasting agonizing. And now I'm just like, ah, lay in bed. Who cares, kid? Like, you know what? You know what?

And you know what? That's good. Do you know? But also, I mean, the other thing is that's interesting speaking of laying in bed is like, I, the days, we were talking about this yesterday, the days are so weirdly fast now. Like, I don't know about you.

Maybe I, maybe it's a perception that I'm experiencing and that I don't know. Oh no, they're blowing by. Like, you're like, you're like, you're like, oh, it's eight in the morning. Then you're like, it's four o'clock. Like, and I don't know what's causing it I guess it's like not I don't know you would think not having to change your scenery not going anywhere like I always thought like it's the reason

why high school felt super long but all those classes were 35 minutes yeah well but that's the opposite isn't it or maybe it's not no but what I'm saying is you change settings, you reintroduce, you open up books, you move here, you change subjects, you're doing something different. It packs so many different notable things into the day that the day feels packed and big. But when you're just sitting in one spot on your laptop, whether or not you're doing board or not, you don't have any markers within that day

to be like that was different. And so now you're just like, but it's the reason my mom says that she doesn't feel like the years go by faster. And I'm like, oh, because she's still on a school schedule. My mom's like a teacher. So she, the year doesn't go by faster for her. Whereas now that I'm an adult

who does the exact same thing every single day, I constantly feel like, are we doing Christmas again? I thought we just fucking did Christmas. You know what I mean? But it's like that now all the time. I don't know what happened during the day. I don't know what happened at night. I don't know what happened two weeks ago. I never know. Yeah. Like a time has ceased to mean anything, which means that it just blows by. Which is good in some respects, but also so bad because I'm like, I'm just going to blank

and it will have been a summer of the only 80 summers I might have a chance at, you know? Yeah. You know, we haven't talked about, sorry, complete pivot. We haven't talked about Dune. Oh, God, we need to talk about Dune. Dune. It's so nervous about this Dune.

Well, look, I can tell you what's going on right now. Okay. Dennis Villanuev, the director of the visionary director of Villeneuve. I don't know how you pronounce it. Denny Villeneuve. I'm actually Denny. You're not a rascal in my opinion. What?

You know, you're not a rascal, you're stewed? No, it's different, Denny Villeneuve's stewed. The visionary director of Blade Runner 2049, and also Sikario, I guess. Anyhow, Timothy Shalameh, who's actually from New York, is in it. He stars as Paula Trades. Oscar Isaac stars as Duke Alito at Trades with a very good beard. And I think what they're they renamed the character though. No, think what they're, they're named the character though. They're calling him, they're calling him, choke me out daddy.

Duke choke me out daddy of the planet, a trade ease. Or the planet, what's the planet they're from? Kick me in the ball now. Yeah. So here's the big thing like, dude, dude is a controversial book because it's, uh, well, I mean, other versions of the, of the, of the book are, I mean, there's a lot of like whitewashing and weird like Arab stuff. Well, the first book, the first book is all white savior stuff.

And then every book after that is like, um, white savior wasn't a great idea. But everyone always focuses on the first book being racist, rather than all the other books that pick apart the racist stuff in the first book. Yeah, so, but I mean, so anyhow, so this is a very white washed version again of all the characters and it's like the whole story is very like, yeah, it's like white savior. Now look, I love, I love the book. I'm just gonna say it. It's, there's problems that are obviously like, you know, when I first read it when I was much younger, it would never have occurred to me. Now, I'm like, I read it, can read it with those problems in mind

and say these things are problematic, but there are still things about the book. Yeah, you say to yourself, 30 rock is very funny, but man, Tina Fey seems to have some unresolved body. Yeah, it's like this story is wonderful, but there are things that if someone could go back, if Frank Herbert were alive, I wouldn't have cast Roseanne Barr.

Right, you know, cast Roseanne Barr is crying. You know, but, but like, so there's stuff like that obviously, but now this new movie obviously is gonna be, you've got to kind of like, you know, who's being cast, who are the characters, how are you playing it? And it sounds like the big controversy right now is that they are repeating the mistakes of, you know, the sort of insensitivity and blindness to the sort of like, you know, Western Eurocentric World View, or lens that it sees its world through. And so, you know, that's an issue.

I'm more of like, I don't think you can top the David Lynch version, which apparently everybody hates. I don't think, you know what I think? I think that this just looks boring. The color palette looks boring. It looks uninspired. The sci-fi looks to be, you know, a little bit of a little bit of new force awakens,

a little bit of sci-fi channel. Well, but it seems a little bit like we're gonna take something from all of the things people know and then just mush them together from the promo pictures. And then it'll be a nice sepia tone. Shades of sand. And it's like, it sounds so boring to mepia tone shades of sand and it's like it's

down so boring to me just like that's why I'm like I'd rather rewatch the otter oscis dune documentary than watch this because at least that had some fucking some razzle basil for the kids I will say I feel like you know what they're doing wow I mean it looks a lot like David Lynch's doon to be honest with you. Like I'm looking at some of the pictures right now. They're basically, it seems like they're basically trying to do like a better, like more modern version of David Lynch's version, which is like,

fine, totally fine. I mean, literally the casting is insane. The casting is insane. I mean, I understand people are mad about it, but it's like a pretty cool cast if you ask me. I don't really want to see a remake of Dune. I mean, I'm going to see it. I don't, Timothy Chalamet does not feel like a, a, um, Kyle McLaughlin level player. In my opinion, I know Timothy Chalamet is not like an every man. I mean, I mean, Kyle McLaughlin level player. In my opinion, Timothy Chalamet is not like an every man. I mean, Kyle McLaughlin brought something very special to the role that is you can't really put in words.

But at any rate, wow, I mean, this is just wild. I'm just looking, there's a great inverse story of this about how it's gonna be different from the book. And it's got a lot of the picture. I'm gonna assume it'll be briefer. Well, no, but here's what I was gonna say. I, I, I, like, I would rather see a dune series that covers like three of the books or four of the books or whatever. Like, I just think. I was just talking about this with my brother-in-law about he's just started watching the Mandalorian. One of the things that I was struck by watching the Mandalorian was like, oh yeah, this is

a pretty good way. This is more interesting and a more interesting way to tell a Star Wars story than the new movies in many ways. We now have the budgets and the technology and the audience potential. You know how much better the new Star Wars movies would have been if we had given them three of those movies, like 12 episodes, to play out some of those story concepts? I think there's a huge problem now that frankly, prestige TV

is as good if not better than movies. And movies are always trying to do that thing where they cram in you know Doon is a very complex story and like there's a lot of threads You can pull on that story in a lot of interesting ways you can take it I think like you know obviously Game of Thrones ended up in a in a place that none nobody was happy with but but Game of Thrones in It's in it's frankly like up till the last couple of seasons. I think, maybe even like up to the last season, was like an incredible experience of like, I'm watching now a new art form, which is like, it's like a movie spread out over dozens of hours, you know? And I think that in the, like,

where were you watching the sopranos, I think it's a very similar thing. I just feel like we, it's like genre, movie formats, any formats, TV, movie, whatever. And genre should be descriptive, not prescriptive. And I don't want people to make a sci-fi tent pole movie. I want people to tell me a good story, however they have to get it done. Yeah, I mean, whether it's a series or it's a movie or it's a quibi, whatever it is, if it's a good story, however, they have to get it done. Yeah. I mean, I see that. Whether it's a series or it's a movie or you, it's a quibi, whatever it is, it's a good story.

Just do whatever you have to do. But the idea that like, I'm going to pull references from other sci-fi works and then fit it into the movie-length format that we are, we want to release things in. It's like, well, then you're not telling a good version of Dune, you're making that. Right. If you want to tell a good version of Dune, figure out what a good version of Dune is, and then find a way to deliver it. I mean, that's the thing with like,

you know, it's like Watchmen is a good example. I wasn't that big of a fan of the New Day of Melinda Loft series, though I think it was like, at the end of it was like a pretty, did a pretty good job of like what, what Watchmen has always really needed if you're going to try to do a version of it

That isn't like the comic which is like it needs room to like breathe. Yeah, and like I think there are a lot of pieces of popular Like we have this idea that like like dude's not gonna be a fucking blockbuster movie Okay, just the way Blade Runner 2049 was basically a bomb like there's a real It was done Carter right there's a real miscalculation that these like really thoughtful, thought provoking sci-fi films are somehow like that there's a big audience for them. And I actually think the audience is in a different place. It's not the people who go see Avengers movies. Like people who see Avengers movies don't want to see Timothy Chalamet

like being like, you know, having his feelings hurt because his father got murdered. You don't see Independence Day because they wanted thoughtful ideas about war. They saw it because the White House blows up. Yeah, definitely. It's great. I got to rewatch that tonight. But no, but my point is what I'm saying is, you know, I just wish it was this default,

like this default idea that you've got to make a Dune movie now, like that it's got to be a movie. It can't be something else and it's like you can't put it in the right form. And I think just think we need to move especially now, by the way, thanks to coronavirus, we should all be thinking,

like does it make sense? I guess they're gonna do two Dune movies. It's like, but like Dune is not gonna be, I mean, I guess listen, right it down right now. I'm putting myself down as saying, Dune, the Dune movie, will not be a blockbuster, it will not be a hit. It may be critically acclaimed. It might be critically acclaimed, maybe.

I think it's a pretty good chance it won't be critically acclaimed, and people will be like, this is clunky, but maybe it'll be fucking great, maybe it'll be breathtaking, maybe it'll be a work of art. I don't think it's the kind of shit that like, the Hobbs and Shaw audience is coming out for. I don't think, I don't even know if Hobbs and Shaw was a hit.

That might have been a mom too. But like the people who spend a billion dollars at the box office on the Avengers are not like, I'm about to spend a billion dollars on this movie about like spice mining on a rakis. Like, you know, and I'm sure there's more to it, but like obviously, because there's more to it in the book, but the book is like slow and thoughtful, and it's not like action packed, and it's like all about like politics and relationships,

and like the subconscious and the conscious mind, and like, just all this weird shit that, like, I think would be better explored in a fucking 12 part HBO series, you know? Like do that. Well, it's like why Harry Potter was like, it was a hit in the movie theater because everyone wanted to see like, I wanna see a hip-a-grip, I wanna see whatever. But as an actual storytelling avenue,

those Harry Potter movies are not very good movies. They're not, well, they're not good, a good story. They not very good movies. They're not good story. They're not well told. They're not a lot of relationship. Well, one thing that's interesting, I will say on that point, because I just read the first Harry Potter, as you know, one thing that is worth noting is that the first Harry Potter book is quite short. I think all of them are not that long, because they their books for kids, I mean, ostensibly.

And maybe they get longer as they go on, but it's like, even the ones that are long are breezy. Yeah, they're very compact stories and they actually do are somewhat better suited to like, you're going like, hey, I can see how this works out to, you know, this works out to like a two and a half hour movie or three hour movie or whatever.

But the thing is Harry Potter would be so good if it was a 12 episode HBO series or a role playing game that just takes place in that universe. It doesn't necessarily need to be seven or eight movie. Like that was just a weird choice and made for business reasons, not for like storytelling reasons. And I know that that's like a thing that's so easy to come back and complain about, especially in a world where, like, as Sondheim said, making art is easy, financing it is not.

But it's like, we currently have the tools to make any story. And honestly, if HBO made a visual VR thing, it would get a ton of press and people would fall over themselves to play with it. So like, my whole thing is like, let's just stop. I'm just sick of seeing the same press cycle that we've had since the 90s for things

that don't fit in that format. And it feels like now Hollywood's just looking for more and more properties. Like Amazon's Lord of the Ring series, maybe it'll be really good. To me, it just felt like there was a game of Thrones, what's similar to Game of Thrones? Which is the treatment that Lord of the Rings got last time, where people were like, Harry Potter's big. What's similar to Harry Potter? And it's like,

can we just actually tell the Lord of the Rings on its own terms? Not that the Peter Jackson movies aren't good, but like if you're gonna do it, do it because you wanted to do it well, not because it's in the zeitgeist. And so, Dune to me, it's just like a someone who actually likes Dune. I feel like a ton of people are gonna have like, are gonna weigh in on it, and I'm just like, already tired, and I don't wanna hear their opinions of Dune. You know, like, I don't wanna hear, I didn't wanna hear people's opinions of the Avengers, frankly.

Yeah. I had my own opinions, and like, I didn't want, it wasn't for everybody. And then, by making it for everybody, it's for nobody. We should wrap up here, I think, we've been talking for at least three or four hours. We're an hour and 20 minutes into this motherfucker. And you know what, you were like at the beginning,

we're like, what are we gonna talk about? And it turns out we can just bullshit for an hour and 20 minutes. Anyhow, what else? Well, I hope that Tony needed to hear bullshit. What? Oh, Tony, it's the least we can do. It's the least we can do it for Tony.

Meanwhile, I've been watching, we've been rewatching the sopranos and I'm like, I have so much weird Jersey Italian slang. I got like a, there's like a PDF somebody made of like all the origins of all the weird Italian. They're like, it's like Italian, but then like, you know, through this weird like sopranos, like very specific part of Italy,

very specific part of Jersey slang or whatever. And now all the time I'm like, I'm like, you got any gobbledgoo? All the time. That's Capacola by the way. Cap, the word is Capacola, it's pronounced gobbledgoo. Gopalgoo, gobbledgoo, anyhow. This is probably racist, I'm not sure. That you're gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

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I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. Hold on, hold on, let me think of a nice thing. Oh, I'll tell you my nice thing. I'm back into PCs, I'm on a PC guy. I'm recording this right now on a Surface Pro 4. I don't know what happened. I haven't touched my Surface in ages. I have a razor blade. I was like, man, I really want,

I really want my Mac feels fucking slow. I have a MacBook Pro, I think it's 2018, it's a 2018 MacBook Pro. It's like, it feels like shit when I use it. It is so slow and sluggish and like laggy and just shit. It's just like, I'm like, what the fuck? Max used to be forever computers, like you'd use them for a fucking ever and they would be good.

Now it's like, I don't know what's going on. So I was like, man, I really want like a fast, I want a blazing fast computer. I'm like, what's the fast computer I could buy that's like a small laptop? And Evan's like, oh, like the razor blade stealth is really fast and I want a blazing fast computer. I'm like, what's the fast computer I could buy that's like a small laptop? And Evan's like, oh, like the razor blade stealth is really fast. And I was like, oh shit, like they sent me one.

And I never return, I have to return it. And I have it sitting in a box here. And I was like, I'm gonna get that out. And I got it out. And like, honestly, I will say, I do not care for many, many, many decisions with the razor blade stealth. But as I was using it, I'm like, damn, this does feel like a million times faster and it's

great. Let me see what's up with my surface, which I haven't literally have not turned on and probably, I don't know, or haven't woken up in, like, I don't know, a couple of months. And I don't know what happened. I did some updates, restarted. It feels like blazingly fast. It feels faster than my MacBook. It is an old-ass computer. It's like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels it. I love the way it feels. I love how it works. I love how search works on it. I love the fucking, I love Cortana.

She's great. No, I don't really use Cortana, but like just doing small things, it just seems so much zippier. Now I had to do some, you know, I had to put some, get some tweaks going. You know, I gotta get like some, you know, there's annoying shit that PCs do.

Like you can't, you wanna type a curly quote or an M-dash, you have to like got to get like some, you know, there's a annoying shit that PCs do like you can't, you want to type a curly quote or an M dash, you have to like literally type in a code, you know, there's like, I had to download my first off on the PC has my favorite screen sharing, my, or not screen sharing, but screen shotting tool, which is a thing called Share X, which is the greatest video or screen, you know, a screen shot or screen video tool in the world. So I hacked a few things here and there.

And now I have it basically perfect. But I gotta tell you, I fucking love it. I'm thinking about getting, I'm thinking about getting a new Surface Pro like a fully spec'd out like I7 Surface Pro. Although this has been so good that I don't even know if I need it. I was like, this kind of is like giving me what I want.

So, anyhow. This all sounds like a post. Yeah, maybe it's a post. I don't know. Yeah, it might be. I don't know. All I know is like, it's fucking great and it feels really snappy and it like is working better than my Mac and I don't know what to say about that except I'm a very happy man.

That's my nice thing. There. Are you happy? Gabi go. Gabi go. So my nice thing is every day, this isn't the nice thing. You're all going to think that should be the nice thing, but it isn't. Just wow. Wow. Every day at 7 pm, all of Manhattan has been applauding for the healthcare workers to very loud, people have been setting off fireworks, which I'm like, how did we even get your hands on these? It is a whole thing and John loves it. He screams from the top of his lungs and it's like,

we're all together in one city, United Colors of Benetana, or whatever. It's great, whatever, it's corny. It's like Facebook meme level joy, but it's fine. Although here's my nice thing. My neighbor has been playing New York, New York every day at 7 pm during the length of the applause, which is fine, but it's the Frank Sinatra version. Yeah. Oh, is that bad? And that is bad. I cannot stand the Frank Sinatra. It's up to you. It's that version.

Is that song, right? Yep. And that's the classic version though. No, it is not. Yeah, it is. It is always in like a montage at a wedding on Long Island with like with Alicia Keys and Jay Z and I cannot stand the friends up to you. New York. That song, right? Yep. It's been stuck in my head since this started.

I've rewritten. I've re-versed it. How is it? What's the nice thing here? You're complaining about your neighbors. Just wait. Oh, just wait. Okay. I've started singing reverse how is it what's the nice thing here you're complaining about your neighbors just wait just wait okay I've started singing dirty versions of it I was singing start spreading my nudes it was fun okay I the version of New York New York that is the original and that is the classic in my opinion and if you go and watch it you will understand why is Liza Manelli's version the song was written for her. It is a song about an on Janille who arrived in New York. And that is so fun and hopeful.

And it's exhilarating. And you watch her perform it. Her whole body moves as one piece that like, that like, it couldn't not. It seems like she's compelled to just like move her hips and her arms in motions that match the emotion of her voice Which is such a specific voice and the song was so obviously written for her voice I mean the whole song is about like you know having hopes and having dreams and coming to the city and relying on yourself and and and

Deciding that even if you fail it was a hundred percent worth it. And that's what the song is about. And it's not about a guy in his 60s or 70s who's like, he's in with the mob and he's drinking some brown liquor and he's like, looking back on his time in New York. The lyrics don't even make sense about that. Like that's not even what the song is written to be about. Frank Sinatra did a cover of it,

but people identify with men who have power. Yeah. More than they do with young men. Well, I have an idea. I have a solution for you. Patrick, we have got to be a nice thing. Wait, wait. Oh, we have not got to be a fucking nice thing. Jesus, come on.

My nice thing. Okay. Is every day at $659 now, I play the Liza version on my mega boom speakers, so that I will beat them. Like out your window? Yes. I have started a war. This is a while.

This is a great story. It's only in New York. Only in New York could this story be possible. Only in New York could two people who mean so well. Like what they're what you're doing is a well-meaning thing. And yet somehow you've turned it into a a battle of wits and I love you revenge. Absolutely. Exactly. I love it. I love it and I'm in love with it and I'm in love with the city of New York as defined by the Frank Sinatra classic. No. All right. I

think it's a good place to leave it, you know? It's up to you. Dabago. Dabago. Dabago. Dabago. Dabago. You just get turned into like one syllable

just as grun. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's crazy, man. That shows the crack. Shredder. Oh, I've been doing my, oh, by the way, I was gonna say one other thing.

You think, oh, you've had that stuck in your head. Well, you know what, I've had stuck in my head the teenage reunion in jichertals theme song which which is like Which is like you know pretty interesting song actually I don't want to get back into the T. H. She's a turtle I thought a lot about them Oh one other thing I will say sorry and then we and this is like another like a little tiny little nice thing just to drop in there I'll tell you what song actually has like a beat that slaps is the Inspector Gadget theme song.

Oh, hell yeah. The Inspector Gadget theme song is like, I think it's a fucking pop. It's hard. It's hard. It's like, damn, like, we would have had to. It told you who it got to us.

And you remember, no, it's like sleazy, kind of sleazy too. It's kind of like, it's like some weird, like, I don't know where I came from But it's tight. I should look up and get back. Oh So good the bridge you mean the bridge you mean the bridge of the inspector cash a theme song It's like the only honestly. I think it may be the only theme song. I know of that has a bridge like it's actually a pretty long intro

It's like I know I love I live for like a bridge or a key change in a short song. Oh my god, it's so good All right, let's wrap this motherfucker up. I gotta get back to my gavago Well that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week maybe with more tomorrow and as always I wish you and your family the very best and I'm happy to report that your family is flattening the curve and That's all they can do right now. So congratulations to them and to all New Yorkers especially Frank Sinatra you