Tomorrow - 209: Superspreader

Episode Date: October 5, 2020

On this week's Tomorrow Josh and Ryan attempt for the third time to record a podcast about this week's news that their legal department won't be upset by. There's also some talk about Bitcoin, Teenage... Engineering, and Hades. Our thoughts and prayers are with all the COVID-19 patients who didn't not create a pandemic through their poor leadership. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, welcome to Tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Josh with Topolsky. Today on the podcast, we discussed Minecraft, Donald Trump, and Bitcoin. I don't always want more of it. Let's get right into it. What's your favorite part? What's your favorite part? What's your favorite part? This podcast better have my money.
Starting point is 00:00:40 You know what I'm saying? All right, listen, hey, we're back. And here's the deal. Okay, I'm gonna be straight with you, hey, we're back and here's the deal. Okay, I'm going to be straight with you, Tony, because you deserve it. I respect you and I want to be transparent unlike other organizations in your world right now. We recorded this podcast on, well, we recorded it on Thursday, like early in the day, day as we do now because we're on a tight schedule then then
Starting point is 00:01:11 Trump You know Sucked a huge bag of shit and we're like, hey, you know what? We should just add that on to the podcast. We should record a new segment You know to talk about what's going on with weird if we if we didn't mention. I'd be weird if we were like, oh, yeah, Trump said it all itself about white supremacy, but we weren't like, by the way, that was Tuesday. That was the debate was Tuesday. Like, I'm, my brain is fucking so fried.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Tony, I know how you feel. I know how you feel. Monday, his tax returns leaked. Can you believe it? Was it Monday, tax returns, Tuesday, debate, Wednesday, nothing? Thursday, COVID. What's the white supremacist, Thursday? Well, all is like Friday. Friday, it's not. tax returns Tuesday to date Wednesday nothing Thursday. What's white supremacist Thursday?
Starting point is 00:01:45 Well, all is like Friday. White supremacy Wednesdays at our house is what we call them. And then we do that. Taco Tuesdays, white supremacy Wednesdays, anyhow. So I need help show. I mean, these writers, man, they get them from as the world turns. I know. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:02:04 So here's the thing. So we recorded the podcast, full length, very long podcast, actually. Then we added another part because we recorded about Trump. And then Ryan, I don't know what happened. I mean, I don't want to blame Ryan. You know, this is not my fault. If it was my fault, I would tell you. It's not my fault. I'm not blame.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I'm not pointing fingers, but let's just say the the files became corrupted in some way the service we use I believe they were given they were given weed which led to harder drugs and then they started Hooking to pay for the drugs and you know how it goes with the files when they become corrupt Whatever let's not let's not put the service on blast and frankly let's not talk about it that much because what we're gonna do is we're gonna do a Let's not put the service on blast. And frankly, let's not talk about it that much because what we're going to do is we're going to do a a take a you do a tight set.
Starting point is 00:02:48 We're going to play the hits. And and whatever happens happens, if this is, if this doesn't work, then then it's clear to me that God is working his, is working, you know, at work. God is at work. And I should say, I think it's a good segue to the main topic of this podcast. Which is that God is at work. God is at work. And I should say, I think it's a good segue to the main topic of this podcast. Which is that God is at work. Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Okay, let me just work out. No more atheism for job. There's no point. There's no point in talking about all the things that have had so many things. It's now we're recording this on Sunday night. I just want to be clear. It's Sunday. Yeah, and nobody listening to this didn't know. I mean, I'm not going to detail what's going on in the world right now. If you don't know, Tony, you're never going to know. Wake up, sheep, all. Hold on. Here's the thing. It's October 4th.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I just want to say October started. October is my favorite month of the year. I mean, I guess, I mean, the February is the month my daughter was born, so that kind of, I guess that kind of is, I mean, the month itself is what, you know, it's a fine month, but I guess I kind of have a scribe, a special sort of love for it, but October is to me the fucking God Emperor of Months. It is, it is not only the month of Halloween, which is unquestionably the best holiday ever, and best just concept generally.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It is my, I have my birthday in October. My anniversary is in October. And now, forever, I will celebrate October as being the month that Trump got COVID-19. And so it really is. Yeah, I believe the Jews have added a new holiday I will celebrate October as being the month that Trump got COVID-19. And so it really is. Yeah, I believe that Jews have added a new holiday to the tradition they will pass down. It really is the champagne of months, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And so anyhow, so Trump has COVID-19. Trump 13 or 14 people around Trump have COVID-19 because they were at a super, at a super spreader event, which we think maybe it's possible their speculation that the actual super spreader is Donald Trump himself. Which, yeah. Because they've said that it correlates not only with the Amy Coney Barrett event in the Rose Garden,
Starting point is 00:04:59 but also his debate prep is where Chris Christie got it. So just, oh, right. Chris Christie, just the villains, it's the worst people of the last decade, just all of them. So let me get to my, so Kellyanne Conway has, where's the list, Honolate? What's going to be?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Kellyanne Conway. What is a list of people, Trump, Christie, with Honolate? I don't know how to search for this. List of Trump people with COVID-19. That's what I'm doing. Here it is, folks. A running list of who's been tested it.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Okay. Thank you, USAToday.com. Props to you. I'm sure I'm going to get a nasty pop up. Okay. Who yours who has it? Here's who has it. You're like, oh, you have a non-blocker on it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It's like, yeah, because your ads are a pile of steaming dog shit, okay? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, they're bad and you stink and there's no way around it. But you did provide me this great list. President Donald Trump has COVID-19. First lady, Melania Trump has COVID-19. Hope Hicks infected with COVID-19. Bill Steppian, I guess that's how you pronounce it,
Starting point is 00:06:02 Trump's campaign manager, infected with COVID-19. Republican National Committee Chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, or Ronna, depending on who you talk to, and from what state, has it? Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee from Utah, has it? Tom Tillis from North Carolina, has it? Ron Johnson, who wasn't even at the event, has it? Chris Christie has it and is in the hospital. Nicholas Luna who is Trump's body man has it.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Three reporters who worked at the White House which sucks, have it unless they're from Breitbart or OANN in which case fuck you. One White House staffer which is like, okay a person, we don't know. Kellyanne Conway has it. And the Reverend John Jenkins, who's the president of Notre Dame University, this is just to be clear. This is just like from Trump's inner circle, okay? It's, it's raunchy.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It is just nasty. It is a fucking, that is a lot of breath to be passing along. It is a petrified stew of Republican horseshit, just flying around at each other's eyeballs and mouths and nostrils and here's the thing You know Couldn't it happen to a better group of people to a nicer group of people? I'm not wishing death on anybody But mother fuck all of these people who have been
Starting point is 00:07:19 Talking shit on COVID like it doesn't exist and telling the American people It's no big deal and it's gonna go away and it'll be gone in April and it's a hoax and blah blah blah and it's like yeah you're in the fucking hospital in oxygen you dumb fuck because like here's the thing. Trump I guess really believed it like more scary to me than Trump being like I'm gonna make COVID political is that Trump wasn't even smart enough to make COVID political. And he just like straight up believes,
Starting point is 00:07:52 he just straight up believes. Like a miracle. It's just gonna disappear like from God. That is just a joke or something. We're doing like a 9-11 daily. We're doing a daily 9-11 in America, just to just put it in perspective and shit is on the rise all over the fucking place. And this guy, I guess legitimately believe
Starting point is 00:08:11 that he's impervious to damage. Like you're not wearing a fucking gun, you're not in a gundom, I don't know what's going on. Like I thought COVID we made a very good deal. His people, I mean, my people. Anyhow, so this has been a fucking roller coaster for all humans on the planet, especially humans in America,
Starting point is 00:08:28 and especially humans with brains. Here's where we're at, and I don't need to recap the fucking news because you can go to any website in the world and see the news. Trump is at Walter Reed Hospital. He has been put on a cocktail of drugs that I am told is very unusual.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I have read and heard from many, many people that it is a very unusual cocktail of drugs that I am told is very unusual. I have read and heard from many, many people that it is a very unusual cocktail of drugs, including but not limited to a drug that made by a company called Regeneron, which like, no offense, but it is like exactly the name of the thing that turns Dr. Octopus into Dr. Octopus and Spider-Man too. But, oh, that drug is also made by Gilead,
Starting point is 00:09:04 which is the company with the name of the nation state that the America devils into in the handmaid. It's just sick, it's just sick, everything's so sick. But anyhow. Two on the nose, like, who is this writing staff doing? It's on the nose, it's on the engine nose. It's show runner. It's up the nose is what it is.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Because somebody's on fucking coke is putting this show together. But anyhow, so now we're in a thing like where because, okay, because Trump has built his entire presidency on lies, every piece of information we get about his health, and by the way, it's conflicting information from within, from within his own staff, right? Like, like, literally his chief of staff is saying one thing, his doctor is saying another thing. There are doctors from Walter Reed who are like, what the fuck? There are literally doctors from Walter Reed on Twitter right now who are like, this is insane. What is going on here?
Starting point is 00:09:59 And, and so, so the, the information about whether or not the president of the United States is in good health bad health Okay health no one knows what we do know is it's like day five for him or day four for him of COVID-19 And he's been put on a cocktail drugs that literally I would probably guess no as far as I can tell I mean based on what everything I've read no person basically in the world has been put on like red. No person basically in the world has been put on like drugs that are untested drugs that are spear metal like strong steroids. He's taking this like all kinds of shit mallet. He's taking melatonin which you know like you guys get some sleep so that's nice. But like you know an interesting fact just completely randomly. Yeah just lay on me. In the during the Second World War
Starting point is 00:10:44 Hitler's personal doctor injected him and fed him pills up to 12 times a day every single day because they wanted to make sure he was virile and strong. Yeah. Yeah. Just one of those things I thought of, you got to have no matter, no matter how bad it gets, the bunker, you have to be able to get a boner whenever a call to pond. You know, um, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:03 This is, I learned I were talking about, and she likened it to Michael Jackson, because now there are stories that are starting to pop up about how it's possible that Trump is sort of dictating his own treatment, which is called, they have a name for it, it's called VIP, it's called like VIP treatment, where it's like, where people who are powerful, it's its own little disease.
Starting point is 00:11:23 It's its own little disease, where people who are powerful and little disease. It's its own little disease where people who are powerful and have money sort of manipulate their own care often for the worse because they are in a position to kind of dictate to their doctors. They're not doctors, they're like, I need propa fall to sleep. Yeah, right, no.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And so it's very Michael Jackson, who was on an insane cocktail, drugs that ultimately killed him. I think there is a precedent for this. We don't know if that's happening, but what is weird. He went, Trump today, went out of the hospital into a car with people who now are all going to be quarantined, I guess, and went for like a ride around the block around Walter Reed to wave at like there are like 30 people outside holding Trump signs. As I guess is a show of health or whatever, but he's like pumped
Starting point is 00:12:15 up full of steroids. Like, let me tell you about. So North Korea. It's really, no, it's really, no, I mean, and then a attending, an attending physician from Walter Reed tweeted, he was like, this is crazy, he's like, these people now all have to be quarantined and they could die just for this political theater, this is insane. I mean, he literally quote, it's like quote,
Starting point is 00:12:34 this is insane or this is insanity. Actually, let me look, because I want to know. So like we're in like, we're in Cloud Kuku land. I mean, we are in a place that is like, you thought America was crazy before. Like we were talking about like, the president's a white supremacist. And we haven't even gotten to the fact
Starting point is 00:12:49 that his doctor continues to lie and change the story and then when asked about it says he doesn't wanna upset the president. And then Kayleigh Nacken and he was like making up different time frames of when Trump was infectious and it just keeps getting worse. It's like the time frame keeps getting bigger and they lied for longer.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Like we are so beyond, like, he's sending out videos that are clearly editing with the Dolby Warfifex. It's the videos are like a cross between, I don't even know what, they're like hostage videos slash like the person taking the hostages doing a video. It's like, I would say it's like, if you could imagine a fusion of like,
Starting point is 00:13:29 if you were seeing a video, it's patty herst, because it's like host, it's most, no, no, no, it's crazy. No, it's crazy, it's crazy than that. It's like, if you can imagine, if you've ever seen like a Taliban hostage video, where like the Taliban has like demands or whatever, you know, or al-Qaeda they used to make these videos, you know, where they would have hostages
Starting point is 00:13:48 and they would make demands. And then, you know, the hostages would speak as well. Now imagine you could fuse the Taliban and the hostage together into one person. And that's what these videos are like. So it's like, it's unclear, it's really unclear what's going on. It's really unclear what the health of the president is. Today, I mean, as an example, his doctor came out and made a statement at 11.30 a.m. on Sunday and said, you know, talked about his condition. It was very vague, very like he's doing well, you know, we're continuing this remdesivir treatment or whatever. And so he was like, has he had oxygen today?
Starting point is 00:14:28 And he's like, uh, oxygen today, he's like, I don't know. I'm gonna have to ask you. I'll have to ask that his nursing staff. It's like, well, I feel like if you come out and you're making a statement to the entire fucking world, literally, the entire world, including our friends and enemies around the globe. And you're not sure. Like maybe you didn't alien, Thur friends and enemies around the globe. And you're not sure. Like maybe aliens are listening.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, like you're not sure if you can say of Donald Trump had oxygen today. That seems weird to me. He said he may be a glance at the chart. Bucco. Yeah, I mean, just take it. Just before you go out, just let me just like, okay, let me make sure I familiarize myself with things that might have happened. I mean, you said it to your phone.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You know, he said, he said, oh, you know, when we said some things the other day, it came off as if we were trying to hide something which wasn't necessarily true, wasn't necessarily true. Okay, when you say necessarily in front of true, wasn't necessarily true as a phrase that means that something was untrue, like it's very suspicious, it's not normal.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I would think Trump keeps saying, I'm fine, I think, I feel good, I think, I'm doing well, I think. It's like you think, yeah, exactly. You think, you're the cocktail of steroids. I mean, listen, the guy has the best doctors in the world, the best treatment in the world, the most only paid $750 for it. The most powerful, the most powerful drugs in the world, experimental drugs if he wants them.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm reasonably confident at this point that I think he's not going to kick the bucket at Walter Reed. But just to be clear, when it comes to this disease when it comes to this How long it takes for the disease to really establish itself or to go away? It's not a four-day thing. It's not a five-day thing in most people It's just not it's not like even most of the drugs that they're using. Some of the therapeutics possibly could have some effect on something. But the rest of the stuff they're using is just to treat symptoms, right? Like he's not, it's not like he like got on a powerful
Starting point is 00:16:36 cocktail of antibiotics. It's a virus. We don't have a treatment for it. We don't have like an anti-retroviral cocktail the way we do with HIV. So like the best we can do is plug him other people's antibodies, which we harvested from their bodies into him. And hope. It's just, I mean, we are just in like absolute surreal theater right now in a way that I can't, um, do you think it's worth if he dies or where's if he doesn't die? Because I mean, you know what I want, but it would be really bad if he died. It would be chaotic if he died, but there is, I mean, on a personal level, and again, I'm not wishing death on anybody, but on a personal level, if he died, it would be very calming for the world. I mean, just to be clear, it'd be chaotic.
Starting point is 00:17:31 For a little while. For a while. But it would just be such a good ending for his movie. He's just telling me. It would just be, listen, listen. I mean, all I want is for Donald Trump to go away. I don't care how he goes away at this point. I think I've said this on the now ruined podcast
Starting point is 00:17:48 that we did, but I don't care if he goes in a fucking body bag or just in a car that takes him back to his Manhattan apartment or to a jail, a van that takes him to a jail. I don't care in what the mechanism is that allows for the physical removal of Donald Trump from the office of the president. I just wanted to happen because more than anything, and I mean this so sincerely, I mean
Starting point is 00:18:13 his policies are disgusting, his governing is awful, his fucking morals are non-existent, his decisions are erratic and irrational. All of that's true and all of that I need to go away. But more than anything, I just want, I mean, this is why I think Joe Biden's just shut where you shut up man, comment, struck a chord at the debate, which again was like five days ago.
Starting point is 00:18:38 The debate was five days ago. I just want us to return to a place where a completely fucking narcissistic agent of chaos who doesn't know anything is controlling the countries and partially the world's attention 24-7. It's unhealthy, it's unproductive, and you can't really get anything done, even if his policies were, he would be like good policies jumping around,
Starting point is 00:19:10 but he doesn't. You just, there's nothing can really get done in this, in this environment of chaos. And like, so I want, if he died, would it be chaotic and bad? Yes, would people be, would there be a lot of confusion and fear and uncertainty and doubt? Absolutely, but it would mean that there isn't a fucking coda.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I mean, there isn't a trapped end chapter here, you know. It's over. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a finality. You can't avoid it, you can't get around it, you can't escape it. Death is real, and it would also end Donald Trump's like presence in my life. It just would. He'd go away forever. And that would be it. And in 10 years, most people would have forgotten, hopefully not too much, but forgotten what it was like. And at least I adjusted the trauma, but you know, we write, you know, but I wouldn't happen. I won't have to be like, you know, explaining to my daughter really in detail, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:08 what was going on like, like, like, you know, like for instance, World War II, you know, my dad was born in in 1936. He's not a young man, okay? So he was like a kid, like, you know, a fairly older kid in during World War II, right? You know, I mean, not fairly older, but he was old enough to remember things. He's old enough to remember when World War II ended, you know, it ended. And it's not like a big present thing in his mind that he comes back to all the time, right?
Starting point is 00:20:36 You know, the Korean War, Vietnam even, you know, which again, he was a young man for. These things end. They go away,, went away. My father's not like, I don't have to hear from him about Nixon, you know, it's a footnote in history, not a footnote, it's important, but it's a part of history.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I need Trump to become a part of history as quickly as possible, you know? I want to get away from this moment in history as quickly as possible. I want to get away from people who won't denounce white supremacy and who want to take away health care from people and who are racist and hope for bad things to happen to people of color and the LGBTQ community. I want to get away from that and move back to the track that the world actually was supposed to be on, which is not this conservative,
Starting point is 00:21:29 religious, puritanical, quasi-puretanical, fascistic, fascistic, fascistic, I don't know if that's a word, something like that. Totalitarian type of governing, which is not the way it's supposed to be and not the way it actually works. I just want to get to a place where we are back on some path where progressive ideas, where like forward thinking ideas can be brought to the table and explored and talked about and maybe even put into action. Versus one where all we're doing is like, you know, I'm trying to fight back a wave of of just inarticulate, incoherent insanity from people who are, you know, their thought processes are relic and their and their their ideals are Just craven, you know, and so like like we really are we really are just in this moment where
Starting point is 00:22:35 So anyhow, I guess the so you're saying like you know will it would it be chaotic would it be bad would it be worse if he died than if he doesn't die worse if he died than if he doesn't die. Everything is, everything related to this person is bad until he is no longer in a position to command our attention. And whether that comes via death or an election or an illness, I don't fucking care, or jail time, or whatever it is. But I'm just tired of talking about Donald Trump, who is a nothing nobody who is meaningless, who has no ideas, puts nothing into the world of value, and is ultimately in the grand scheme of things, a just a fucking speck of meaningless dust that has happened into our fucking eyelid and we're trying to get it out and we're fucking crying and we're scratching and we're tearing up and we're fucking blinded by it and eventually we're gonna work the piece of dust Out of our fucking eye and be able to start seeing things normally again, but until that happens, you know until the speck of dust is out of your fucking eye
Starting point is 00:23:43 eyeball and out of your eyelid, you're going to be extremely annoyed and very distracted. And that's what we're dealing with. I don't know if I answered your question. By the way, I wasn't going to drink in October. Needless to say, I am not, not drinking. I'm on like four adibles. Oh my God, four. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I've been avoiding weed, honestly. I think, I think maybe I'm not into weed. I think like, I have a, I now have a medical marijuana license. I could do whatever I want. You're not into weed? I don't know, it's just like a commitment that I'm not ready to take. You know, I don't need anything that makes me hungry. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:24:18 You know, the last thing I need is to be made hungry. You're either going to drink your calories or you're going to eat them. So for me, I'd rather be nausea. And you think about, think about drinking your calories as you're kind of doing it at the same time. Yeah, yeah. We just know caloric values. So you're like, now I have to create a meal situation for myself. That's true.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah, exactly. But that's kind of the fun of it. You got to just make a little snack nest and I don't know, burrow in. So I, Trump for me is like a one to one with climate change. You know, I like I know that it is and it's full hot air. I'm sorry. It's the closest we have to like being like whenever this ends we have a chance at tackling what will be 100 million times worse than COVID.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And then you're like the worst apocalypse scenario, we could like, we need to like start pulling a little up from it. Um, and, uh, we're not. And so to me, it's like whatever ends this fast stuff. But, you know, whenever I get stoned, you know what I fantasize about, I fantasize about, um, uh, we take the rest of Joe Biden's campaign money and we just a bribe him to leave. Hey, we say, say that to Trump. Yeah, we say to him, well pardon all your crimes. Here's a billion dollars, just like you can't enter the US again.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And then we can just move on and somewhere else will arrest him. No, I don't want any solutions that involve bartering with this person. Of course, I know that. I know that I don't actually want it. I'm saying whenever I get stoned,'s like the desperation level. I'm at I mean that it would it would work You know it just wouldn't work. I know I know I mean the only thing that would work The only thing I mean listen, I'm not even sure the election will work if he If he if he loses by a significant amount, I mean, if he's still
Starting point is 00:26:07 in the hospital, you know, it's not help. I mean, it's not a help that he's still in the hospital. I mean, it's really, it's, I think I think I think it would be helpful for the transition of power. Like I think he wouldn't be able to do all the, I agree. I agree. Well, I'm telling you this. Okay. The election, the actual presidential election is, is 30 days from now. No, I'm sorry. It was 30 days from yesterday, right? 29 days from now.
Starting point is 00:26:30 What I mean, I'm not making a prediction, but just to be real. Do need to be quarantined for minimum of 14 days after he is no longer has the illness. Like, you can't, he has to start producing antibodies and tests, essentially negative for like the active illness. I don't know the next week.
Starting point is 00:26:51 No, no, right. That's just deadline to not be in the hospital or quarantine during the election. I mean, he just, I mean, if you, we have to get into like, we have to be real, you know, he can deny it, but if any person, I can't think of any person who would openly, willingly take a chance of being around a per if you told me somebody had
Starting point is 00:27:08 COVID 10 days ago and they want to be in a room with me even at 20 feet away. I'd be like no, I'm good. I'd be just like I'm so good on that. Like I don't need to be in a room with anybody let alone a dude who definitely absolutely had COVID 10 days ago and definitely is still fucking contagious, you know. So, I don't know what the plan is here, but I do know that in general, in general, the idea that this is going to play out as a normal campaign season now in the final 29 days nine days with Trump currently in a hospital, at least as of yesterday, receiving oxygen for a pretty severe COVID-19 symptoms. And getting a cocktail of drugs, if we think him doing a ride around the block
Starting point is 00:27:58 is proof that he's gonna be up to doing running a normal campaign for the next 29 days, I'm highly skeptical. If anything to me, that normal campaign for the next 29 days. I'm highly skeptical. If anything to me, that's proof of the opposite. Because if they could get him to do a tap dance, they would get him to do a tap dance. What they could basically do was put him in the back of a car with the windows up
Starting point is 00:28:15 and drive him around the block. And that's what we can do with my 85 at this point, your old grandmother, who has two broken ribs. Like, that's what we can do with her. We can put her in the car and drive her on the block and it's a hell of a hell of a break up the day. But getting her to and from the car is difficult and she's gotta be on paingillers.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And like, yeah. He's a 74-year-old man with a deadly pandemic virus and literally on a bunch of fucking party mix of whatever they could find in the drawer. And it's, you know, I don't, I think there's a non-zero chance that he dies of this, but I also think there's a non-zero, there's a very good chance that he's incapacitated straight to the election. And that will, I hope that really rests in voters' minds that they have to go out and take
Starting point is 00:29:00 a chance of they'll get COVID in order to vote. And that's his fault, I mean. I mean, I don't want wanna make a prediction about Trump. I mean, it's funny, for the outline, we made this comic called Who Watch Is The Men. It was a kind of play on Watchmen. It was like this alternate reality watchmen. It's actually really weird thinking about the fact
Starting point is 00:29:18 that Watchmen exists, which is like an alternate reality version of Watchmen that is about like society in modern times, but actually I hadn't really contemplated it, but anyhow, we didn't really thought about the fact that you, you, was your idea to do a reboot right now? Well, I don't know if that's entirely accurate, but we did this series called Who Watch Is The Men,
Starting point is 00:29:37 which started as almost just as us joking around about like the absurdity of the election. And then morphed into Jeremy Gordon, kind of took it over, and morphed it into our culture, at the outline, the brilliant Jeremy Gordon. And ended up with this plot about Trump never leaving office and being this sickly half robot, half human monster. half robot, half human sort of monster. And I just like I gotta say, there are really shades of it happening right now.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Like, you almost wonder, like what is the cocktail, what is it getting him? Is it getting him strong enough and sentient enough right now to be able to go and do a car ride and wave to people and make it? Where is it getting him strong enough and, and, and sentient enough right now to be able to go and do a car ride and wave to people and, and make it. Where is it like, what's going on? Like, what's going on? Well, no, I mean, it might be doing both, but I'm saying like, you wonder, is this Trump
Starting point is 00:30:33 in the, in these videos, these weird videos, is this like a normal person who's just like, they're getting treatment for a sickness and they're kind of under the weather and, you know, they're not feeling that, like, like, for instance, when I get very sick, okay, I'm a nightmare to deal with. I'm, I'm the worst. I'm horrible at being sick. I'm a huge baby. Exactly. But when I get sick, you know, if you were like, listen, you got to, you got to get up and do a video, you know, for a few minutes just to tell everybody that you're feeling okay, you know, I could absolutely rally as sick as I've ever been, except for one time in Paris. As sick as I've ever been except for one time in Paris as sick as I've ever been I could absolutely rally for like five or ten minutes even when I was actually like I had like food poisoning in Paris
Starting point is 00:31:11 And I was like throwing up and other things Simultaneously like even at some times there have been times that I don't think I could do it But they're very far. Yeah, but even then even then if you were like okay, we need you for like ten minutes Just like rally for 10 minutes I probably do it right and like and like so I'm saying like a normal sick person and Which Trump maybe he maybe just be very sick, you know with a very bad illness that is can be deadly But with a lot of people make some feel very really bad for a while, you know doesn't kill them It just makes them feel really bad for a while. It doesn't kill them, it just makes them feel really, really sick.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Am I seeing that? Or am I seeing a person who's been like, their system has been flooded with things like steroids and experimental treatments and maybe whatever else we don't know. Pain killers. Pain killers and he's kind of this propped up thing, this person who's, I mean, that's where I'm at and I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I think most conspiracy theory is, I mean, that's where I'm at, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I think most conspiracy theory is absolute bullshit, but that's where I'm at mentally right now because this administration has created such a fog about the people in
Starting point is 00:32:16 it. I mean, the first thing they did at their first press conference was lie. So it's like the first thing they did was tell a bold face lie that we can see on their own eyes. I mean, beyond that, I think the crowds were so huge. No, I mean, that's, oh yeah, I mean that. But also when you think about this particular situation, you know, they, I think they really lied about how sick he was.
Starting point is 00:32:43 You know, they, they really, I mean, we don't even know, at this point, people aren't even sure when he actually had this thing, like when they knew he had it, you know? And so, I mean, well, because he's so obviously waited for the markets to close, which just erodes public trust. And like, at this point, like, there is no good reason to erode public trust.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And even if you were like, I want to make sure the market stays stable. The public needs to trust what you're telling them. You want to keep the G7 countries happy and not thinking that apparently they think of Ivanka's going to get made president. He'll just appoint her. You have to have public trust. Even if that means telling uncomfortable truths, what you can't be doing is creating a scenario where we don't know because it's just going to make everyone think it's probably worse case scenario. I don't. Straight through. I don't expect them to
Starting point is 00:33:33 be super transparent. I'm sorry, I'm looking at I urge and I mean, I'm often angry at the New York Times, but I urge everybody to go to the New York Times and look at the article they have to put Inside the White House event now under COVID-19 scrutiny, which is like where they're trying to kind of solve the super spreader event. You know, this is a room full of clothes and clothes, small space.
Starting point is 00:33:55 This is an Amy Coney Barrett, you know, meet and greet or whatever the fuck it is. You know, she has her children there. I mean, I'm like, I'm like sick to my stomach. She has these kids there. Now, I know it's like hard for children to get this illness and it's not often that they get it and most of them, you know, don't get very sick. There are also plenty of children who've died from coronavirus and from COVID-19. And to look at this room full of these, absolutely just
Starting point is 00:34:31 full of these. Absolutely just, just these people with just utter disregard for science, for each other, for the people around them, for their children. I mean, it's disturbing to me. It's disturbing. I mean, I would never put my daughter in a situation like this. You could not pay me. There is no amount of money you could pay me right now to send Zelda into a room full of people not wearing masks anywhere, under any circumstances. You could say, I'll give you a billion dollars. I'd be like, fuck, no. I mean, just to be clear,
Starting point is 00:34:57 because I believe that this virus kills people. It's killed over 200,000 people. And I wouldn't bet my fucking daughter's life on anything. Okay? So to see a person bring their child into a room full of strain. Hey, hey, hey, she's pro life. I'm gonna give a fuck what she is. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:35:15 She can kiss my fucking ass. I don't give a fuck. But that's the fucking, that's, there's, I mean, I'm trying to push this. I just don't know what they're quote unquote pro life and they're a vexed video. They can push it through. Could kill children pro life and there are they can push really could kill children look These fuck faces can push it through the Republicans can do whatever the fuck they want right now But if you can't see if people can't see the hypocrisy
Starting point is 00:35:35 They don't have a majority in office at the moment because they have fucking coded listen listen I'll be honest with you Josh Holly was there Tom tell us he's got it. I mean, listen, fucking rot in hell, all of these people. Again, I'm not wishing death on anybody, but I do not wish a speedy recovery and I do not wish the best for any of them. They are bad people who do have done bad things.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And I don't believe in good and evil. I'm not a religious person. I do want to get to this point, actually, which I meant to get to at the beginning. But, but I don't also believe, you know, I don't believe in karma. I'm not a religious person, but what I will say on all of this
Starting point is 00:36:14 is it couldn't have been to a nicer group of people. And here's what I'll say, if the president does die, okay? Which is I think, you know, has been something of a fantasy for a lot of people. I'm not going to say it's a fantasy of mine, but this feels this whole thing feels biblical in its proportions and it's in it's in it's in in what has happened over the last like just honestly in the last week.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I mean, we went from you could convince me if this if we were in a movie or a book you could convince me that this was an allegory for the anti-Christ and how the world would rid itself of it. I mean, I just say this. I would be like, yeah, that's probably this was gender. I mean, structurally speaking, there is something that is just biblical about this as if, it is as if somebody just said, it is as if a person, you know, individual somewhere, it's with some ability, some omnipotence was like enough of this.
Starting point is 00:37:07 We need to, this is, I'm not, I'm done with this bullshit. You know, you have people who just have flown in the face of, in my opinion, so much decency and so much science and knowledge and love, like they're, they're the, the, the, so much abundance. There are the people who have, who have never wanted for a thing. And they still like crave hate. And they still crave violence. I mean, I mean, I've subjugation.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I mean, it Donald Trump's Donald Trump is just particularly Donald Trump. It's the worst of human beings. But also the people around him. It's, yeah, it's just like, it's just like, it's the worst of us. It's the worst of humanity. So we're aspects of the disease. Yes, and that doesn't mean, that doesn't mean, it's funny, I was watching, we were watching the Matilda movie
Starting point is 00:37:50 from 96 today, which is, that's so funny, we watched that on Christmas Day. Yeah, I mean, there's actually a real allegoric under tone of that movie where, you know, Matilda's family are these like really mean spirited, unhealthy, rude, uneducated people who are just, they're very might makes right, you know, like her father basically says to her and I actually got kind of like choked up washing it because I felt so bad.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Her father says to her like, your dumb, I'm smart, I'm big, you're small. Like, you know, it's like, my, I matter, you don't. And it is like, I thought like, God, this is the fucking Republican platform. It's like I'm big, you're small, I'm smart, you're dumb, I'm rich, you're poor and therefore like you're not, you don't deserve or aren't entitled to or won't be given the consideration that I'm gonna give like the people like who I think are on my level or on my at my class or whatever. So what I'm just saying is like these people, they're not good.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I mean, I don't mean this in a religious way. I just mean like just on a general, on a general humanistic level. If you look at the progression of the world, if you look at the arc of history, if you look at the art, I mean truly, like just look at it, just it's really simple. Let's take slavery because it's the easiest one, okay?
Starting point is 00:39:07 These are people who would love, I don't wanna put words in their mouths, but I think would love to return to a time when slavery was an accepted practice. I think the concept of subjugation of servitude, of classifying people unlike you as another race or another species. This is appealing to them on a lot of levels. So, but if you look at the reality of the world, slavery is universally recognized.
Starting point is 00:39:36 No, it's not perfect. We haven't figured it all out everywhere. You know, there is still slavery in the world. And some of it is, you know, slavery enacted by the actions and direct actions of Americans. But to be clear, it's a universally accepted truth that slavery is wrong and that all human beings are entitled. I think this is, I mean, universally accepted by people with any intelligence and any sense of compassion that human beings are essentially the same everywhere and that every human being is entitled to autonomy and agency
Starting point is 00:40:12 and that no person should be subjugated or subordinate or insurvated to another within these social. But notice how quickly they'll take any excuse to disregard that. That's the thing is, right? They can say they're anti-slavery or whatever, but look at the prison industrial complex. That's slavery.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I'm trying to be like, oh, you had weed. Well, now you have to work for, for pennies. I'm trying to think. I've been thinking a lot about license plates. I've been thinking a lot about this over the last few days, but where is the situation where I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:40:48 feel like Where where there's always a lot I think a lot I think I think I think back a lot into my when I was young when I was a teenager And and the people that I knew and the circles that I ended up in the friends that I ended up having the things that I ended up doing And I think a lot about people who were on different tracks than me. I mean, particularly, this is going to sound really silly, but like, when I was like 16 or 17, I started going to like, raves. And in the world of rave culture, in Pittsburgh, in the 90s, you know, there were lots of levels of those people, right?
Starting point is 00:41:22 There were people who were throwing parties and who knew the DJs and were kind of orchestrating these things that were happening. There were people who were there who were just there to sell drugs and fucking profit off of people who wanted to get high, which most of them were harmless, some of them were not. There were people who were into some really weird shady shit
Starting point is 00:41:41 that went a level below that. And they were all very intermingled. And you could see how, very much, I assume, this is like high school, there are all these clicks that people end up in, all these groups that people end up in. And I wonder, if I had just met different people, what I've ended up with, people who were doing things that were maybe less constructive and more destructive,
Starting point is 00:42:02 what I have ended up doing, drugs, harder drugs or weirder drugs, and I have ended up doing drugs harder drugs or we're the drugs And I actually ended up doing all this shit like and like you know I think in life like you always have to look at your past and wonder like what are the choices that I made or the people that I decided to You know align with that that took me somewhere that that you led me to where I am today It is one of those things. It's like you you do wonder, like, I understand it's upbringing. I understand it's the culture of where you're raised. I understand it's like religion and other forces,
Starting point is 00:42:30 political forces, obviously. I just can't, I'm trying to figure out for myself where it's the place where I would go, this is wrong. Like, this is fucked up. It's hard for me to imagine the mindset of a person who thinks like, you know, we should exterminate Jews or we should exterminate black people or whatever, you know, and like the Republicans are just a couple
Starting point is 00:42:53 of degrees away from that. They're just a couple of degrees just in terms of their general policy making. No, they are. I don't think they're that many degrees away. No, I think they might say they are. They might say there are few. No, I mean, I mean, I mean, in terms of, yeah, I mean, but it's just in terms of policy and talking points. I'm just saying, like Donald Trump isn't literally, he's not wearing a swastika and saying we need to exterminate black people in America. I mean, he's endorsing the proud boys.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But that's what I mean by that's exactly what I'm trying to to crease it. But I don't think that's that many degree. I think you're just using different words and they have different words. No, I mean, it's not that many degrees away, but it is essentially endorsing the mindset, you know. What I'm saying is like, they won't go as far to say what
Starting point is 00:43:36 the thing is that they really believe, but they'll endorse it, you know, and to me, it's like, I just, so I guess what I'm saying, just to circle back to my main point, which is, I'm an atheist. I've been an atheist for a really long time. I mean, since I was a young, like a teen, maybe even preteen, to be honest with you, I went, as soon as I could like think about the concept of God, I was like, this doesn't check out for me at all. This doesn't feel right to me, you know, this idea of God as the way it's portrayed in almost all sort of religions. This is the closest I've ever felt in my life, I think, to feeling like I'm witnessing divine
Starting point is 00:44:20 intervention, to feel like I'm witnessing something that is so like in terms of narrow, it's so narratively unbelievable and also so narratively satisfying. Not satisfying. What's the thing when something like sort of aligns? Poetic? Yeah, it's like narrative, I guess like poetic in its, you know, in its alignment with what has been happening. In essence, you have a person, the president who has been lying to people about this virus, denying its existence, denying its severity, claiming it would go away, offering up magical
Starting point is 00:45:03 solutions to the problem, suggesting dangerous medical treatments for it. And now, after everything, after all of this, after his denial and his obfuscation and his lies and everything, here he is in a hospital room on oxygen, on a fucking cocktail of drugs. Honestly, for real, without medical help, I mean, to be clear, this guy would die. If those doctors of Walter Reed didn't exist for him right now, he would be on a pretty, I think,
Starting point is 00:45:32 pretty clear path to death in most cases. He's obese, he's 74, he seems generally unhealthy. The idea that this is happening to him and to all of these people around him who, and that it is like, sparked by this, like, potentially this event for it to celebrate a conservative Supreme Court nominee who seeks to, who would seek to or would at least vote along the lines of, you know, abolishing Roe v Wade, abolishing Obamacare and Medicare for all, taking right away from women and people of color and the LGBTQ community, just like, it just feels like somebody, like, this is like, like, if you, it feels written,
Starting point is 00:46:24 it feels purposeful. It feels like I'm not saying I've become religious because I'm still like, you know, juries out. Like drop could this could like make him rise in the polls and I'll be like, well, the devil is devil is real. The devil is I mean, you know, the devil's real and God is dead, you know. But you know, it's the closest thing I've ever felt in my life to something that feels like biblical in its scale and scope and narrative.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And I don't say that lightly. I mean, it's just honestly, I'm just kind of like, I've stepped back. I mean, I was last time I was working, you know, been working on building this woodworking bench, the greatest project. This is to become my white whale, the greatest project of all time that I've embarked upon, which is like, it's literally like a thing to build a thing. But I was working on it, you know, I'm shizzling away at a piece of wood, you know, to get it to fit into another piece of wood.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And I just like, was stopped for a second. And I was like, God, this is nuts. Like, what's going on right now in the world is nuts. I'm doing like a regular task that seems relatively insignificant, but everything else outside of this just feels like absolutely historic in a way that an unusual and a way that I've never experienced in my life. And I'm including like shit like 9-11 and that. You know 9-11 was surreal and awful, but it was, it made sense. Like I understood it, you know, I don't, obviously it's
Starting point is 00:47:54 horrible and I wish it didn't ever happen, but I got, like when they started to explain what had happened and who was responsible and why this was going on and how it went down, like I'm like, yeah, yeah, this is something that could happen in our world. This makes a lot of sense. This, it makes sense because the science, you know, the science, you, and you believe the science,
Starting point is 00:48:11 you wouldn't do what these people did. But man, what fucking come up in, what come up in to see them all sick? I mean, it's the mask of the right grade. Right? Yeah. To see the fear, just to understand that these people are afraid now, in a way, this virus doesn't discriminate. People said it before, it doesn't discriminate,
Starting point is 00:48:31 it doesn't care about parties, it doesn't care about wealth. Now, obviously, it's spread. It's spread out of four for death and it is death. Right? It's, anyhow, it's staggering. It's been a staggering week and I'm. And anyhow, and this is the third time we've recorded this podcast. So I have new thoughts today, luckily for everybody listening, it's luckily for Tony. I think it's better that we sat on it, though, because when we did this before,
Starting point is 00:48:58 it was just a lot of us trying not to say what we really thought of. It was just Ryan cheering on the potential death of Donald Trump. I mean that's all it was you know of course it was literally what it was. It was we're cool. Anyhow if you also should talk about before we finish this podcast that needs to be not long because I'm exhausted and I need to start drinking. Let's talk about two other stories just the palate cleanser. Let's do it. Let's cleanse the palette. So coin base, the hard pivot, the CEO at coin base, has decided that the workplace will be entirely politics free.
Starting point is 00:49:39 You're not allowed to discuss anything that could be classified as politics or like social issues. And to that end, anyone who doesn't believe that or doesn't want to be part of that mission, he's offering them an exit package from the company. This is the most insane, horrible precedent of at any company other than maybe Facebook cutting people's pay if they have to move to another state. It's really wild to me because like, if you want to have a progressive company and if you understand why diversity is valuable, which like, I don't, I think this makes it clear that this person doesn't understand why diversity is valuable and is probably therefore a racist because you need people
Starting point is 00:50:26 of different backgrounds to bring their thoughts and opinions to the table if you're going to create not only the best product and succeed as a company but also just like ethically justify your existence as an organization in a world that's sophisticated. You know like if you don't want to hear the opinions and thoughts of women or black people or trans people or gay people or Asian people or immigrants or refugees, like if you don't want to hear those topics brought up, you're going to create things that harm those people just by sheer chance, but even at the the barest minimum. And yet you're also like saying how like racist you are. And to me, it's such a bad precedent
Starting point is 00:51:05 to set for other companies to be like, we'll make it quote unquote politics free because choosing not to discuss politics is also a political choice. You're doing, we're making a choice. Right. Right. I mean, the, the, this, this, I mean, this was a kind of, I mean, listen, this story is buried now by all this Trump news. But, you know, this guy is basically saying, we wanna, you know, we wanna focus hardcore on our mission and we wanna be laser focus on what? Upending the financial system. It's like, that sounds like an awesome idea.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You know it'd be a real, you know who would be, you know, the kind of people to be really great assets to upending the financial system as it currently exists. People who are passionate about things that are more than just fucking Bitcoin. But also people who understand what it means, the decisions about a financial system, how it will end-pact people. Right, that's right. I mean, and I would say like when you, right, exactly as I was going to say, is like when you think about people who are incentivized to upend the financial systems of the world, are there are going to be people who are incentivized to up end the financial systems of the world are there
Starting point is 00:52:06 are going to be people who have strong political and social beliefs about those systems, you know, and the problem, and one of the main problems with the current financial system as it exists in the system of currency is that it was created by, you know, people who wanted to hoard power, a certain very certain specific type of people that you see currently hoarding that power, you know, largely white, you know, European, you know, pretty destructive people. And I think it's like, for this company,
Starting point is 00:52:39 you know, I've seen arguments, I've seen, I've watched, I've like read Twitter threads and other threads on Reddit and stuff about this where people argue about how this is going to help them. Now they're going to be able to stay focused and get talent that really cares about getting the job done. But this is the thinking of like the STEM students shouldn't take any humanities courses at all, any history courses at all.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Because all they need to do is do their STEM courses, all they need to do is math or science or they're just building tech, they're crunching numbers. But no, which numbers you choose to crunch, it's like, you need to understand humanity and you need to understand what you're doing in the world and why you exist and to what purpose you're working. I mean, I would just say it's like, you know, you want to, you want to, right, you want to unravel the systems that exist, you know, you need people who've lived in those systems and been oppressed by those
Starting point is 00:53:34 systems to help you understand them. And I think like the idea that you would essentially reject that, I mean, I think about a company like Netflix, and I'm not trying to give them any awards or anything, but like, you don't hear Reed Hastings go out or Jeff Bezos and again, I'm not going out and saying it, but like, these are people who are not like, we don't want political opinion at our companies. I don't even think it comes up in thought.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I think there's something very political about the thought itself, something very like, somewhat disturbing that you say, well, I don't wanna hear the other viewpoints, or I don't want you to rabble rouse at the business. You know, it's like, you should have like an inverse all lives matter. You know what I'm saying? You should want, we can't say anything specific.
Starting point is 00:54:11 We're not going to say anything that means anything. You should want, you should want to be challenged. I think, I honestly think, I'll say this, if you're a CEO of a company and you want subservience from people I think I'll say this, if you're a CEO of a company and you want subservience from people and you want people to never raise their voice or speak their mind, you have limitations, you are a limited person,
Starting point is 00:54:38 you have limitations as a CEO, and in the end, you will be a worse leader for it. And I say this having been in a lot of rooms with CEOs and Benicio myself, you want what you want more than anything is people around the table who know shit that you don't know, who think things that you don't think, who can see problems that you can't see.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And a really good way to attract those people is to say, we come here and bring your entire self to the business. Bring who you are. You know, listen, you don't have to treat it as a family. You don't have to make it your, you know, home away from home. But you should be able to bring who you are to the business and say, like, this is important to me and I'm thinking about it and I want to talk about it and have a place for it within the business. And this idea that somehow, an opinion from an employee is a distraction instead of a value is so lazy.
Starting point is 00:55:37 How lazy to be like, oh, I don't even need to do, work should be easy, even if this is the fantasy you have. My work should be easy, I if this is the fantasy you have, my work should be easy. I shouldn't have to think about it. I shouldn't put any of my thought or emotion or ethics at work here. I'm just here to move boxes or whatever you, you want to, that's right.
Starting point is 00:55:56 You want to go be neutral. There are plenty of places to do it. And it's not a fucking work. When you work, I'm actually engaged all the parts of yourself. I mean, I just think yeah, it a yeah, it a place like a startup coinbase. Listen, I just think it's the wrong move. It's exactly the wrong signal.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I think it's just something about the CEO that is to me dangerous and I mean, not dangerous like, oh no, he's like a scary guy. More like dangerous if I'm a person who, I mean, it would be scary to me if I worked at a company and was told I couldn't bring up being gay or something like that. I mean, if that's dangerous, if all you care about is profit, you know, and you think the only way to do it is to be,
Starting point is 00:56:42 wanna, I mean, that your entire focus must be on the goal of profit above and in place of all other thoughts. I just think you're your shits off the mark. I think it's like, it's a very short-sighted move. I think it's the wrong move. I think if you wanna attract, if you wanna attract really great talent with big, weird, new, exciting ideas, and maybe they don't, maybe they just want regular media talent.
Starting point is 00:57:12 I think you want to open the door to people with diverse opinions and strong opinions and contrary opinions and who come from backgrounds that you don't come from and who have causes they care about, that you don't maybe don't care about, and you should give them a place where they feel welcome. However you do it, it doesn't have to be like, hey, we're gonna be a really political organization. You can say, listen, as far as politics go, we don't wanna be involved with any, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:38 particular party in any country, anywhere. But if you have strong feelings, you know, we wanna give you the space and opportunity to bring those feelings to your co-workers and to the business and, you know, to lobby us if you feel like we need to be active in some way that we're not, you know, you could be like, we're not going to get deeply involved in politics, but not extinguish the idea that politics and social justice and other, you know, really passionate other topics that people are really passionate about would be like, you could say it would at least be welcome. This guy's like, we don't want any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You know, and to me, that's just like, I don't know, more than anything, more than anything just suggests that he's a short-sighted person who hates to be challenged and that to me is a bad, that's a bad material for CEO. And we'll see what the future holds for Coinbase and for blockchain currency businesses in general. But you know, that don't think this helps their case personally. I'm sure Mark Andreessen would say otherwise because he thinks colonialism is actually awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Anyhow, what else? There's one other nicer story. Ooh. Teenage Engineering's OB-4 radio. Yeah. We haven't really talked about this. It's called a magic radio or something. It's supposed to DVR the radio and you can remix live broadcast.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I have no idea how this works. It doesn't have a screen. I'm not, I don't understand what this is. So it's a speaker. It's a speaker. Well, I hear what I'm confused about. So they, so, teenage engineering is awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:16 They make this thing called the OP Wang, which is a, you know, unbelievable, just an unbelievable piece of musical, it's a musical instrument, but it's like also just does so many weird things. It's like an incredible music production device. They've created a bunch of weird products and they have really beautiful design
Starting point is 00:59:41 and really interesting, like just in terms of their industrial design. They're super ahead of the curve. But they are very throwback. Their stuff looks like Dita Rems design. It's very like 70s, 60s and 70s industrial design from Germany and from Europe. But so this device is a speaker. It's a speaker you can plug into, you can, it has, they say, a
Starting point is 01:00:05 two-hour looping tape that essentially records anything that is played through the speaker. And then there's some ability to like- Is there a literal tape or is it- Okay, so this is a topic of, this has been a topic of discussion. I, based on the way they describe it, they literally call it a, you know, two-hour looping tape on their website. And they don't stipulate whether or not it is a tape or it is a quote unquote digital tape.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I, so I'm like, I don't know. It very well could. I mean, there's motorized switches and stuff on the device. There's no reason to suspect that like, it's not, I mean, this exactly kind of thing this company would do, which is like to put a legitimate like actual analog tape inside of a machine that like fuses digital and analog. I mean, they've done a lot of engineering around the speaker system itself.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And, you know, I think, like, so that's a really interesting idea. Even if it's not real tape, it's a really interesting idea that this thing can just kind of record whatever is played on it for two hours time and then you can, and then you can, you know, I guess manipulate it in some way. It's really unclear what that means in the grand scheme of things. But like it's a cool device. It's like $600, $550 or something. I already have so much sono shit
Starting point is 01:01:31 like in my house. There's no chance of me getting another speaker. And I also have other like speakers and fucking bookshelf systems and just all kinds of whacked shit that I don't need that I bought because I'm like, oh, I mean, I literally every time I see like a vintage stereo online, I'm like, maybe I should buy that.
Starting point is 01:01:47 You know, the other day I was on or not the other day a few up a couple of months ago. I was like, fucking looking for this, this, this German 1960s German bookshelf system. Maybe I could it called Vega, and I was like, down like insane rabbit hole. Anyhow, but like, you know, so as a man who loves to buy audio equipment that he doesn't need, this seems really cool, but like, you know, I don't know about spending $550 on a speaker
Starting point is 01:02:19 that maybe has a tape and maybe doesn't. I do think it's for a very special kind of person who has somewhat has money to burn. But it's beautiful to vice, it's really cool. It's for the Bezos family to take on their, you know, tropical vacation. Yeah, it seems. It's easy.
Starting point is 01:02:36 It seems to have like, it seems expensive, it's single purpose. It's, well, it seems to have implications for music production, but it's unclear, like what, exactly, you know? So yeah, I don't know. I'm too optimistic about it. All right, we should wrap up.
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Starting point is 01:03:38 We're just skipping nice things. I don't know. Let's do nice things really fast really fast Let's do it. But don't edit any of that. That's all high quality shit right there. You think you think I would touch it? Don't touch this. This is magic. I mean, you don't have to get it again. It's gonna be destroyed by Zencast or any house. So you don't have to worry about it. All right, let's do nice things. Here we go. Let's go. Come on. Punch it up. Um, Hades, the game of Hades. Oh, you're playing Hades. Reacon obsessed. Not into it. I don't like anything at that three-quarter of you.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I don't either. And yet I hate games like that. I hated Bastion. I didn't want to look at it. It makes me so upset. But I love this game so much. I don't care. It's like Dead Cells times a thousand for me.
Starting point is 01:04:20 No, no. I am so addicted to it. Really? Really? Yes. And there's like, because it's also an e-book with like branching story lines and the longer you play, the like, the story, and the story lines are all different if you play differently. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:04:31 But like the way I'm playing is apparently changing the story and it's really complex. It's so good. I like literally can't put it down. I'm so obsessed with that. This wasn't even my nice thing the last time that we recorded, but I've gotten so into it in the last like two days. Yeah, I don't remember. You had other nice things, but they're gone now like sans through the hour glass I'm trying to remember what's that you nice thing is hey, oh, sorry, maybe I'll play it
Starting point is 01:04:53 What is my nice thing from the time that we recorded this and then it got destroyed do you remember? No, I feel like I talked about something oh Zelda playing Minecraft Maybe did I do that last week? I'm so confused at this something. Zelda playing Minecraft? Maybe. Did I do that last week? I'm so confused at this point. I mean, what is time, you know? Time has become. Yeah, it was Zelda playing Minecraft.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I don't know, fine, whatever. Did you, I read it. I wrote a thing for the website about how I love the Black Gray Classic as I can't do anything with it. That's one nice thing. I think I talked about it last week. You should go read it. The hottest phone of 2020 is the Black Gray Classic.
Starting point is 01:05:24 No, actually, it's funny because she we started this recording late because Zelda was playing Minecraft. She gets these like third wins at the in the evening, like around dessert time. Yeah, that was the best feeling as a kid. Yeah, I think she's like loopy, but she was like, she started playing Minecraft. I have given her a PC to play Minecraft on what she was unnaturally excited about, which I have to say is proof that she is definitely my child, which is great. I love to see that you're rubbing off on the child
Starting point is 01:05:54 in some way that they're picking up your traits. Very excited to get a PC laptop. She's playing Minecraft. You know, right now we're just exploring, we're just learning. I'm actually like blown away because I know, I know very little about Minecraft, but it is such a fascinating It's so fascinating to watch or she came home on day and she's like I want to I want to like invent things
Starting point is 01:06:13 Is there an app where you can invent things? I was like I? I don't know if they're like that's like there's scammers who will take your invention and Like there's like invent invent dot com or whatever But I was like yeah, I don't know. I was like, but you know, there's like invent invent.com or whatever. But I was like, yeah, I don't know. I was like, but you know, there's this game Minecraft where you can definitely like build things and like you can build lots of really crazy things in it. And she was like, oh, Minecraft,
Starting point is 01:06:35 like some of my classmates play Minecraft and I was like, oh, really interesting. Cause her classmates are young and she's sick, you know? She's very young. And so I was like, let's try it out, you know, and she's sick, you know? She's very young. And so I was like, let's try it out, you know, and she's totally into it and she's like getting it, picking it up so just picking it up in such a natural way and just like, you know, she built, she's building, starting to build things that are like legitimately really interesting. I mean,
Starting point is 01:07:01 like, like, she built, she was building all these houses. houses. And she's like, I want to build a house, I want to build a house, she kept building houses in different places and sort of like expanding her palette with like, house she'll build houses. And then recently she built one, and we, you know, she was having this problem or she built the houses,
Starting point is 01:07:15 and since she put the roof on, it would get dark in the house, you know? She's like, I have an idea. So she built a house, like, honestly, kind of like a beautiful mid-century style house in Minecraft, and she made the roof of the house glass out of glass blocks. And I was like, this is so fucking cool and inspired and like just such a great idea as to how to solve this problem of not having enough light in your house. I'm made, listen, maybe, I don't know in the Minecraft
Starting point is 01:07:42 universe, maybe that's like bad construction, but I thought it was an amazing concept and I was really into it and I just was blown away by her ingenuity. She also spent the weekend writing a musical, which took up a lot. Honestly, she's getting, she's like, I can't handle this little fear of getting her video games. I can't take it. I had a control. No, she had me and Laura working on a Google doc of the script, and it's now like 13 pages long. And like, honestly, it's like, you know, it's somewhat derivative. I mean, she's obviously influenced
Starting point is 01:08:14 by her favorite musicals, but, you know, we gotta start somewhere. But it's like also pretty amazing and original. And she has a lot of, she has a lot of really cool characters in it. And anyhow, it's just a weekend of, you know, oh, oh, well, okay. Anyhow, so my nice thing is, is to play Minecraft
Starting point is 01:08:31 and just like being, you know, experiencing pure joy from a child, you know, seeing an amazing video game for the first time. But one other thing is like, just don't want to mention this is not a nice thing at all, but I think it's worth mentioning. We've talked a lot about screen time during the pandemic and how I was like, yeah, my screen time has plummeted. I've not even looked at my phone most of the time. I'm working and then I'm not working. My screen time this week was up 193% for an average of how do you find more percent for an average of,
Starting point is 01:09:05 how do you find more time for an average of 10 hours and like 17 minutes a day of screen time of my phone, okay? That's fucking crazy, John. I know. So just to give you an idea of like, just to give you an idea of how fucked up everything is. Yeah, hold on. Your screen time was about 190% last week for an average of 10 hours, 16 minutes a day. So I assume that there were a couple of days where I was way over that
Starting point is 01:09:36 and then some days that were just longer than normal. But I think between the debate and why to and why to premise the Wednesday and COVID Thursday and white supremacy Wednesday and COVID Thursday and Hospitalization Friday and tax evasion Monday. Oh right tax evasion Monday Debate Tuesday white supremacy Wednesday COVID Thursday hospitalization Friday and denial Saturday. You know, I think it all denial Saturday and Sunday kind of a Package you know, I think it all denial Saturday and Sunday kind of a package you know, I think it kind of added up but Boy, I need this new cycle to end. I need it all to end. You know what I'm saying? I can't wait to not worry as like My my default like I don't want to worry as my default anymore. I just want my anxiety to like
Starting point is 01:10:23 like I don't want to worry as my default anymore. I just want my anxiety to like, just the base level to go down. I'm not asking for the moon in the stars. I don't want to be on benzos all the time, but I just want my base level of anxiety to start somewhere lower. So I have somewhere to go. It has to end.
Starting point is 01:10:38 This has to end. I cannot get any more. It's got to end. It's got to end. Can you imagine being a secret service person? And they're like, the president is highly infectious with a raging COVID, a raging COVID diagnosis. And they're like, you gotta get in the car with him.
Starting point is 01:10:56 And you gotta ride around for 10 minutes to 30 fucking, to 30 fucking losers who are standing outside the hospital. Just, he's been breathing on you for two weeks. I mean, and you still kind of fucking accompany this man when he goes to the hospital so that he doesn't die. I mean, this shit's so crazy. Let's throw the fucking piece of shit out.
Starting point is 01:11:18 It was gonna be on. We move on. Let's move on. Let's get out of this. Let's get back to something else. Let's go to something different. Let's change the to something else. Let's go to something different. Let's change the channel. I'm just going to smash the system.
Starting point is 01:11:29 You know what I'm saying? Push the button. Don't push the button, as Madonna says. Yeah. Change the channel. What is the lyrics? I wonder what are the lyrics that saw? Whatever it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Goodbye. for this week, I believe. I hope we'll be back next week with more baby. We're hoping, you know, God willing, inshallah as my man Joe Biden would say. And until then, I wish you and your family the very best, although I've just been told that your family was in that car with Trump when he made the lap around Walter Reed and they're gonna have to quarantine and they might die. So, you know know vote Trump out.

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