Tomorrow - 213: Pompeii

Episode Date: November 2, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh with Topolski. Today on the podcast we discuss Red Dead Redemption, Search Engines, and Jerry Mandraine. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. Alright, we're back, man. Here it is. This is it. The moment you've all been waiting for for Ryan the moment you've been waiting for The end of Donald Trump's first term. The sun is setting. Well, we don't know. We don't know it's gonna
Starting point is 00:00:51 Maybe it'll rise again, but it is setting at the moment and the first time the sun's I wouldn't get to it It's not the sun setting. It's more like I don't know. It's like the volcano has stopped or it's like the eruption has stopped And we think the lava is maybe going to congeal and just rock like the volcano has stopped or it's like the eruption has stopped. And we think the lava is maybe going to congeal and just rock. And there won't be another volcano, but there could be another volcano. And this one's going to is going to be a, a, a pom-pay situation. I'm hoping that we don't have a pom-pay situation, but yes, same. I mean, I'm hoping with, I'm hoping with my dollars, I'm hoping that we don't have a bomb-based situation, but... Yes, same.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I mean, I'm hoping with my dollars, I'm hoping with my votes. I'm hoping with my prayers to all any and all of the gods. You know, but this is it. It's October, today, October 29th. And in a few days, we're going to have election day, which is a day where people traditionally go in vote, but what's actually happened is a lot of people have already voted, and a lot more people are going to vote. Some are male and ballots, some are early voting. And now we're in a point where
Starting point is 00:02:00 as everything looks like, it's very much leaning towards a democratic victory, a Joe Biden, Kamala Harris victory for the presidential election. Trump has begun a campaign. There's a huge campaign that's going on now that's coordinated across many, many states coordinated with his now fully conservative Supreme Court, or at least conservatively weighted Supreme Court, to prevent states from counting ballots, from counting ballots after election. This is his new, this is the new focus of the end of this fucking, just absolutely horrific and halacious presidency that we've experienced over the last four years.
Starting point is 00:02:48 He wants to, he's now tweeting about it, he's talking about it, he's suggesting there's court cases being brought, where they wanna have the election results on election night, which is not even possible, has never been done as far as I know, in the history of this country, is impossible from a logistics standpoint, even if everybody voted on election day.
Starting point is 00:03:10 There will be a clear, I think, I like to think, I hope, that on election night, quote unquote night, we will see a winner emerge that is aligned with the actual voter preference, meaning I hope that we'll see a winner emerge based on election day and counts coming in from ballot county, which can only start on election day for a lot of places because of laws, Republicans have created, that we'll start to see an overwhelming support, I hope, for Joe Biden and for Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:03:48 If it looks that way, my guess is the Trump will want the voting counts to continue. I mean, I have trouble believing that Trump's losing clearly on election day, that he'll go, let's stop the counting right now. You know? But that's the push as of right now. Who knows if it's even possible? There's no precedent for anyone being like, let's stop the counting. There's no precedent, but in a complete crazy town. No, there's no precedent, but Brett Kavanaugh in a recent Supreme
Starting point is 00:04:18 Court ruling made mention of this idea of the election being, you know, the results of the election being known on the day of the election, which is like an insane... That doesn't mean even being in any sense. Like, it's an insane citation to make because it's unheard of in this country. It's like, it's not based in reality. There is no... The only thing that's happened that's changed for us in a lot of ways is that we've gone away from having very clearly the Republicans because of their gerrymandering
Starting point is 00:04:52 and their voter intimidation and voter suppression and all of these things they've done have created a situation where the vote now seems like so unbelievably impossibly close in so many places that it is this kind of like well You need to count every vote because it's not a margin of like 10% he won by 10% It's a margin of like a few thousand votes here and there and and so you know you you you look at the last election You say well Trump only won by 70,000 votes 70,000 the 70,000 votes that were counted for Trump in Pennsylvania Wisconsin and 70,000 votes, 70,000, the 70,000 votes that were counted for Trump in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and what, Michigan?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Those are the ones that gave him the election. That's it. If it were 75,000 in the other direction, or 70,000 in the other direction, Trump wouldn't be president. So now their focus comes to Pennsylvania, where he's's losing but has to win Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin. This is a handful of states, right? If Trump doesn't win them, like he can't win, right?
Starting point is 00:05:58 So you know, it's going to, this is going to get ugly before it gets better. I mean, the question is, is this country can this country actually take on direct out loud and direct and out loud and in public attempt to steal the vote from voters, to steal the election from potentially the candidate that voters have selected, to prevent legally acceptable votes from being counted. I mean, I don't know that a country, I don't know that we're not in like an actual on the street civil war at some point,
Starting point is 00:06:35 pretty closely following that, if Trump just somehow can decide that people's votes won't be counted. I mean, that's some Russian shit. So I don't know, I don't know where we go. You know, the only people who seem ready to like gear up and start shooting are the right-wing militias. So I'm not sure how we handle a situation where the where the supporter of the right-wing militia steals the election. I'm no longer using the word militia, by the way. I'm using terrorists.
Starting point is 00:06:57 So there's no difference. Yeah, terrorists. What I mean, right-wing terror, whatever. I mean, they're, yeah, it's just hard to describe. Like malicious to me has a very specific meaning, which is like a group of neckbeards in the woods with a lot of guns. Totally, totally. I just think that that's what they want to be called. And I'm not, I don't negotiate with terrorists. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I mean, yeah, I mean, they're definitely terrorists. There's no question. I mean, they're like terrorists, most of them are like terrorists, like, in waiting. They're, they haven't done terrorism yet. They're terrorists. But they have. They're, they're like, yeah, no, well, they're more than curious.
Starting point is 00:07:31 They're like, they're ready to do terrorism. No, that's, like, by curious. Like, they just have, yeah, they're ready to do it. They're, they're, they're, they're prepped. They're excited about it. Yeah. It's just they haven't like taken the plunge. They have the chance.
Starting point is 00:07:43 They haven't had the chance yet. Yeah. No, I get it. That makes sense. Anyhow, man, so it's like it's dark days, it's dark days. I want to be in a fucking... We should be right now people who are on the left should be cautiously optimistic that we can get this fucking pig out of office and start cleaning up the disgusting mess that he's made all over our country. That's how I want to feel, but how I actually feel is I'm just scared, just so scared that we have lost, that democracy is over in this country and that we are, we're going to see the full execution of that
Starting point is 00:08:26 uh... uh... in the next you know we're two that that we're going to see the real like the little true loss of democracy is that out you know trump can be a horrible president and he can act like a dictator and he can sign executive orders but to but the test for democracy is whether or not if a majority of people want him to stop, that they have a mechanism by which they can get him to stop, which is the vote, right?
Starting point is 00:08:51 The only way for the only real way, the only technical way for the population of this country to say we don't want it to be like this, is to speak with their vote. I mean, obviously we can protest, Obviously, we can go onto the streets and go onto social media and talk about it. But when it comes to the technical implementation of how we voice our opinion about politics, this is it.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It's just the vote. If the vote can be overruled by the president, then that's a dictatorship and democracy is over in America, and that's not hyperbole. That's just fat. If the president can overrule the will of the people in a vote, in their vote, then democracy in this country has ended, and we are in a dictatorship. And that is fucking insane to talk about, but it's like, I think in a week, we'll know if that's actually happening or not. You know, in a week, we'll know,
Starting point is 00:09:50 are we living in a dictatorship? And this is not, again, I'm saying this, I know people that go, the loops have been driven crazy. Like this isn't, you're a fucking Republican, this should really fucking worry you. If you're a Republican,
Starting point is 00:10:01 it should really fucking worry you. The vote is central to democracy in this country It's central to what America is if you are if your vote is taken away from you You're not living in America. You're living in Trump's country Trump's dictatorship a Donald fucking Trump a Benzo and Adderall addicted shit for brains Races shit for brains who race is shit for brains, who doesn't give a shit about a single person
Starting point is 00:10:27 in this country except for himself. But there are so many people who would rather live in a country started by a reality star with like a nuke pointed at people of color. They would rather live in that country than a country where like Stephen Colbert gets to be smug. Yeah, I mean, but whatever, there are more,
Starting point is 00:10:44 I believe in my heart, there are more people who want the good thing than the bad thing in this country. And the only way, you see, the only way the Republicans can, in a situation like this where they have put themselves, they have put who they really are on full display. I believe the only way, when people see who the Republican
Starting point is 00:11:03 party really is, which is the party of Trump and the party of backroom deals and the party of voter disenfranchised mint and voter suppression and ignoring the electorates will and wishes, when they put themselves on display like that, I really believe that there's a majority of people in this country who will reject that. I do. The problem is, then you see the only way they can truly win. The only way, and I'll say this, I actually believe this, I think at this point,
Starting point is 00:11:33 the only way Donald Trump can win this election now is if he steals it. The only way that they can win the general election is if they go through a very complex and malicious steps to suppress or deny the will of the voting public unless every fucking poll and every early voting number then every requested mail-in ballot number is wrong i mean i really believe i think the only way donald trump can win is to steal it and they know that at this point they put themselves unfold display they've shown what they really are and they are being i think they are being rejected by the american public
Starting point is 00:12:17 if if if i'm wrong in the american public wants more years of what donald trump has to offer then this is not a country that I want to live in. It's not. It's just, this is a bad place with a majority of bad people. Because what Trump's doing is bad. The people around him are bad. They're not good.
Starting point is 00:12:36 They don't have the population's best interest in mind. They don't believe in the ideals that built America. They do not want America to continue as it has continued in the manner that it's continued. So like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, at this point, I really believe that the desire to get Donald Trump out of offices far greater than the desire to keep him there in this country. And that's not a plus or minus for Joe Biden in any way, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I just think that I just think that it's reality. And so we'll see. I don't think they can win without cheating. And I think they kind of know that, which is why they're gearing up for cheating, which is why that's what they're talking about right now with less than a week to go in the election. I don't know, maybe I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Do you know the sound of crazy? I think, for me, I guess I'm trying to focus on my, the anxieties that I can sort of control for this week because I don't, I, I don't have, after the lap, after 2016, I know it sounds, everyone fucking says it. I'm just, I, everyone says it and it's so try to this point, but I'm very traumatized and I don't like making predictions and I don't want to be, I don't want the rug pulled out from under me again. So I'm just trying to focus on the fact that
Starting point is 00:13:53 in order to early vote every day that we have tried to do it, starting last Saturday, we've tried to do it, it's, we've been in line and we've tried a couple times to stay on there for an hour and we're just like, all right, well, we're gonna have to find a day when we can block off five hours to stand in line. Like we don't, we literally don't have it in the day. There's just errands that have to be done.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You're saying that have to be loaded. Yeah, yeah, there's things that have to be done. And so like, I'm gonna try, I think tomorrow morning, we're gonna get up at four or five o'clock and stand outside this high school on a hundred and second street. And hope, but those are the little things that I'm trying to control for that or like when I see people in my personal life,
Starting point is 00:14:35 promoting or talking about the Lincoln project, like I'm trying to do my part to be like, hey, those are just Republicans and they're using your money to like, squirrel away to their anonymous lobbying firms and stuff like That's not a good cause just because they make a Sassy meme or whatever using Wendy Williams like please don't give them your money There are progressives and progressive causes and like we're even just Joe Biden like just give your money to Joe Biden at this point
Starting point is 00:15:01 So like those little things that I can like just give your money to Joe Biden at this point. So like those little things that I can like handle, I'm not gonna convince, at this point, there's no way that I personally, Ryan Huleyann, am going to convince anyone not to vote for Donald Trump. They don't wanna hear it from me. So what I can do, and what I can worry about, I'm trying to keep a handle on,
Starting point is 00:15:20 because otherwise, like this, this is the most anxious I've been about something that wasn't directly, I mean, this does directly if I can make it, but you know what I mean? That isn't about, is it like, oh, I have a weird rash, I need to get the dog. I'm coming out of the closet, or my grandmother died, or do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Like, those are the things. This is the level of anxiety that I'm at, and I have no control over any of it. And so, no, I know. No, I know. I know. No, I know. I know. I know. I know. And so, no, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I. You know what I mean? Like, I would just, how do you get out of bed in the morning if you're staring down a literal gun barrel? Like, you know, so I don't know. I'm also just sort of, I think for the after two. Like, I'm starting to think like, even if he loses, what is the immediate stuff
Starting point is 00:16:18 that could like go down, you know? Trump TV. Trump TV, an immediate announcement of Trump TV. No, here's the thing. I will say, on the early voting thing, by the way, Trump TV, Trump TV, an immediate announcement of Trump TV. No, here's the thing. I will say on the early voting thing, by the way, because we tried to early vote around here, which is, I live outside of the city,
Starting point is 00:16:34 so I thought, well, this will be more chill. And both places we went that are nearby, were like huge lines, like hours wait, right? We bought full, and here's the have umbrellas on them, because that's how we're gonna like hours wait. We bought full, and tears that have umbrellas on them, because that's how we're gonna have to wait. But here's one thing that's interesting to think about that Laura pointed out to me, and I was like, oh, that makes me feel a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Cause you're like, what the fuck is with these lines? You're like, but where we're at right now is that for very large populations, I think they expected early voting would be, there'd be more of course, because of the coronavirus, but not like it would be you need the level of voting you'd need for a typical election day. So for typical election day,
Starting point is 00:17:16 where we live, and I think this is true of a lot of places, you have chunks of blocks that are like, you're in these blocks, you can go vote at these polling places. Like where we live, there's like a place that we vote every year, every election, that like there's like, you know, it's like a thousand or so people vote there.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Overall, like you can't vote there if you're not from like that certain area that handles it. And so as a result, there's like 11 different polling places in our like general neighborhood, not a neighborhood, but more than that, but like our town, you know? So so so when you think about it that way, it kind of makes you feel a little bit better because you're like, oh wow, yes, of course, lines are long now because these these are single places trying to handle many, many larger groups of people who are voting from many different areas and there's not that many, there aren't as many individual sort of defined places to vote.
Starting point is 00:18:13 There's a lot, the early voting places, you can go to any one of them and cast your vote, you know? And so it's not like you can only go to the one in this area. And so that, so I'm less worried about, I mean, I was very concerned like I'm like, what the fuck, like, why are there these huge lines? But there's huge lines. I think to be, obviously, there's a lot of energy people want to go vote. They think it's really important.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And we're obviously dealing in a situation, dealing with a situation where like, on election day, there should be, and I'm sure we're still going to see reports all over the country, and even in places like New York, there will be, there's going to be places where there's huge lines,
Starting point is 00:18:47 but there should be hopefully more places where you can go in and get your vote done in a timely fashion because they're just simply will be more polling places. But like it is, of course, you know, all of that stuff just contributes to the anxiety, the mail-in ballot stuff, I'm like, you know, I want this to work.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And it looks like a lot of people have requested ballots. If you look at the numbers, like a lot of Democrats, way more Democrats than Republicans have requested ballots. More Republicans than Democrats, sorry, more Democrats than Republicans have returned their ballots. And like, so that's really interesting. You know, you go, well, that's really, the Republicans will say, well, the Republicans don't trust, the Republicans don't trust the mail-in voting or whatever, which is, I think, a lie, just a made-up fucking lie.
Starting point is 00:19:37 You know, I think Republicans have been doing mail-in voting just as much as Democrats have historically in places where you can do it. So, you know, it's interesting, you know, but like everything is a little bit of a, so I'm just rambling now, everything is a little bit of just an additional brick in the wall of total anxiety and frustration that I'm feeling right now. And I wanted to end, you know, somebody wrote an article in the New York Times and I think it's Michelle Goldberg who I think historically writes horrible things. I can't remember, but she wrote this thing four ways a year thinking about Donald Trump. And I actually think more than almost anything I've read about Donald Trump, this really, I don't think all of our time has been wasted because I think Donald Trump has exposed some things in America that are
Starting point is 00:20:24 really bad that we need to deal with head on. So I think there's actually been a lot of moments in his presidency thus far that have given us a good reason to start to think and talk about things that we haven't been thinking and talking about. But I think there's been a lot of time, of brain power, of anxiety, of, you know, not, I feel bad for four fucking years straight.
Starting point is 00:20:49 We have spent eight months indoors when that was not, that didn't have to happen. It just didn't have to happen. Didn't have to happen. It didn't. And you know something just about that, people talk about it like this, he talks about it like it's this inevitability, but it's like like I don't know why nobody says it's like in New York We had a massive outbreak of COVID-19. We had people dying By the thousands people were stored in cold trucks because there was no order
Starting point is 00:21:15 They were in cold trucks. It's stored three high-end cold trucks bodies were being stacked. I'm serious We had an absolute crisis here. It was insane. People, I think people have forgotten, if you didn't live in New York, you probably don't even think of it. If you lived in New York, it's like you want to kind of erase the memory because it was so traumatic. But we got it under the fucking under fucking control. Okay. People were dying. People were getting sick. People, they were spreading out of control. And then we got it under control. We made mandates about wearing masks everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:47 We made mandates about schools. We made mandates about where you couldn't go and how many people you could go there with. We made mandates about people who could come in and out of this, out of New York. And now we have one of the lowest, if not the lowest, transmission rates in the country. And I have news for everybody else out there. People in New York are doing most of the things that they normally do at this point. They can go out and eat.
Starting point is 00:22:12 They can fucking go to a museum. They can walk around the streets. Like, we're not living in the ghost town that Donald Trump describes. We're actually living in a functional city and state post a coronavirus outbreak that has been brought under control by good leadership. And if the rest of the country understood that
Starting point is 00:22:31 and understood how lost they are without that leadership, and by the way, I'm not trying to like, you know, high five Cuomo, he's done a lot of stuff, right? He's done a lot of stuff wrong too. But the point is that he listened to scientists, we follow those instructions. The point is that the bar is on the floor. The things that we had to get done for the science. There were a few check boxes that would have been very painful for two weeks and then it would have been over. And Cuomo is not
Starting point is 00:23:00 my ideal leader at all. But all leader, even one who I think is incompetent, is better than a complete lawless chaos from a cartoon character. A. Leader. I would rather George W. Look literally, and I fucking hate George W. Bush. I would shit in his mouth. I would rather he be the president if he was going to obey some basic stuff. Then a complete cartoon character saying, oh, it'll just disappear. It's gone.
Starting point is 00:23:26 It's over. We conquered it. Like, I had it, and I'm fine. Like, that is so ridiculous that this is where we are, because it's so easy and in front of us. And New York was able to get it under control because like, we did the bare minimum. Like, everyone acts like,
Starting point is 00:23:46 like in even Cuomo wrote a book where he's like, how I did COVID. It's like you told people to wear masks and you shut down schools. That wasn't like rocket science. I don't need to read a book about it. But the point is, but the point is in April,
Starting point is 00:24:03 we were having a thousand deaths a day, okay, for real. A thousand people a day were dying. And now the deaths are single, maybe low, double digits. People are still dying from this, okay? Absolutely. But it's like a rounding error percentage compared to where we were. And in terms of, now, it is taking up a little bit because you've got these like,
Starting point is 00:24:27 Trump people in Brooklyn who are like, we don't wanna wear masks. I mean, you've got, there's a whole community of people who support Trump and don't wanna wear masks and wanna have big gatherings. That's driven up the numbers for everybody because what it does require and what Trump doesn't get
Starting point is 00:24:43 and what other people in this country or at least other leaders in this country don't seem to get is that like, you know, it's funny. We talk about, there's all this hatred for socialism in America. They talk about socialism. What it, what you can actually get this thing under control and get it basically beat here, but it requires a type of socialist endeavor, a socialistic endeavor that we, for some reason, leadership in this country, Republican leadership, obviously more than, far more than any Democrat leadership refuses to accept, which is everybody is a part of this.
Starting point is 00:25:20 No one is on their own. No one is free from it. But that is political. But that's what that guy called the first person. It's crazy because that was literally E. Pluribus, oh no. Like, we're supposed to be there for each other and deal with these things. Exactly. And they've politicized.
Starting point is 00:25:38 That's just killed that. They've politicized this thing. They've politicized this idea about freedom and personal freedom and all this bullshit. And it's like, no, like, you don't have freedom to kill the people around you. That's not personal freedom. That's the, that's the absence of personal responsibility is what it is.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It's the absence of responsibility for your community. It's the absence of what makes America America, which is a group of people coming together to decide on making a better nation based on better ideals about how nations should be run. And I love America. I was thinking, I mean, frankly, I was looking at countries that I would think about moving to if Donald Trump, and I'm pretty serious about this. I know people said this around during Bush, but I don't want to raise my daughter in this country if Donald Trump continues to be president.
Starting point is 00:26:25 The things that he thinks and says about women, the way that women are treated in this country under Republican rule, I do not want to raise a little girl in this country in that, if he continues. And I think it says something about a dark thing about this country and about who the people are that are in control of it. So I really, really, you know, when I say like, I've been looking at houses in other countries and looking at how you moved to other countries, I really do mean it. But it's depressing, you know, because I love America.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And I was like, we know Canada's kind of like, it's like America, but like, you know, it's a little different. And it's like, you know, it actually is a bummer to think about not being an American, to think about not living in America. Because I love this country and I love the people in it. And I love how fucking weird and diverse it is.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I love the fact that you go to fucking Texas as a bunch of people in cowboy hats and you go to fucking California, there's a bunch of people, you know, I don't know, with Tideye on, I would ever the fucking cliche. About their big California is, they smell like huge surfies,
Starting point is 00:27:18 they smell like patchouli. Yeah. Well, that's Southern California. I was thinking more Northern California. Patchouli and Tideye, man. No, but you know, it's fucking,. I was thinking more Northern California. But truly, and Tied Eye, man. No, but you know, it's fucking, like this a great country, America rules, except, it's been driven apart by this dumb shit
Starting point is 00:27:33 that isn't even real. With that, I don't think I don't even think, it's not even like we have an education crisis, we have a moral crisis, we have a lot of things that have led us to here, but that is still less than 40% of this country is in the I know and we all have to be in it by the way in it with them and those 40 and those 40% less than are just But less than whatever they're still just following like leadership, which is what people do
Starting point is 00:27:58 They're like okay, like give me some tell me some and the yes There's family stuff and yesterday's history and all this shit But like Donald Trump didn't have to be as bad as he is. Like Donald Trump could have listened. Donald Trump was talking about shit that Republicans four years earlier would have hated to hear and they were like hell yeah, he was like LGBTQ, we're all in on those guys. It's like they didn't want to hear that four years ago when Mitt Romney was running. You know, Mitt Romney like can't even be in the same room with a gay person and it's like
Starting point is 00:28:23 so like they don't actually care that much as long as their leadership represents them in some way, right? Like, if Donald Trump had been like, we're gonna expand Obamacare, the Republicans, the only Republicans who would have bulked at that are the leadership who get fucking paid by insurance companies. It's without the people, you know, the people who got Obamacare
Starting point is 00:28:48 don't wanna take it away now. Republicans and Democrats alike, people who didn't have insurance and now can go to the doctor, aren't like, yeah, I don't want that. Only the dumbest of the dumb. Most of them are like, I don't want that taken away. You know, there's a reason why this fucking,
Starting point is 00:29:01 you know, this potential Supreme Court fight, why it's such a topic amongst people because the Republicans know they don't want to tell their constituents, they want to lie to them, they know that if they tell them that they're going to take away their coverage, that they will get fucking crushed, so they just lie about it. The point is Donald Trump could have had a massive win on his hands. He could have been the guy who actually beat back coronavirus in this country. He could have been the guy who was like,
Starting point is 00:29:31 we're gonna get, we're gonna follow the science, we're gonna get our masks on, we're gonna mandate this shit about how we do schools, how we do reopening, so we're gonna come up with a big plan. He could have said to every fucking governor, Republican or Democrat alike, we gotta follow the science, gotta listen to these guys, and we could have said that every fucking governor republican a democrat alike we gotta follow the science goddard listen to these guys
Starting point is 00:29:46 and we could have had a huge he could have been like that king of to killing corona virus in america he chose instead in his p-not-fucking-brain to make mask wearing and following regulations and lockdowns a political issue you know and it's a it's insane to me.
Starting point is 00:30:06 There's no, the only thing that's served is to divide the country, to divide his followers from people who aren't his followers, and to just create a mechanism by which you can talk about what one side does and the other side doesn't. It prolonged this virus, it prolonged the amount, it increased the amount of deaths. It made it, made it sure that we would have second and third waves of it.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And now it's like, they just were like, whatever, who cares? Now they're talking about her demeanor. It's like, it's such a failure leadership. Don't you think what happened is that Trump is used to living in his own and, what happened is that Trump is used to living in his own, and their personality types are different in some ways, but similar in others. Reality distortion field, Steve Jobs-style, he's used to living in this denial projection
Starting point is 00:30:55 con artist thing. And so his first instinct is gonna be that. But on top of that, people told him, you can't say anything to the American people about how bad this is gonna be because we'll have a panic. So it's better for the economy and it's better for planning, like, our response if people don't take this that seriously just yet because we don't want people panicking and running around like chickens with their head cut off. So he heard that, internalized it,
Starting point is 00:31:20 it also feeds into his like, bassist instincts, and then just went full denial. And then anything that was like, like masks are a visual thing that there's a pandemic happening. And he was like, can't have that, because people will get spooked. So now I'm anti-mask. And it just, I feel like all the dominoes fell in that way. And he ended up, back to the corner, based on his choices, yes, but also because he functionally is not able to lead the world's largest superpower. Like someone whose initial response to things
Starting point is 00:31:53 is denial, obviscation, like you that you can't lead one of the largest countries in the world because like people are not gonna be, like you're not gonna get 300 million people to not know anything about science in a country with free speech Like it's gonna come out like there's gonna be chaos and fighting He's functionally unable to do the job as a leader because his instincts and ideas are bad and all it took was one Instance where there was something hanging in the balance for everything to go to shit
Starting point is 00:32:21 And I don't understand what people don't see about that. People are like, oh, it could have happened to anybody. It's like, yes, this could have happened to anybody. Obama had to deal with H1N1. Obama had to deal with the economy collapsing. But the way that we understand who a leader is is when they are faced with issues like that and their instincts lead to whatever result. You look at what Bush did with 9-11 or Katrina
Starting point is 00:32:44 and you know who he is and what he is able to and not able to do. The same thing is true with Obama and Trump. And if you don't see a pattern where Republican ideas are not able to govern a country of this size, of this who faces such large issues. And so I don't understand how people can look at Reagan and what happened with AIDS
Starting point is 00:33:01 or what happened with the Iran Contras and then look at 9-11 and Katrina and then look at what happened with AIDS, or what happened with the Iran Contras, and then look at 9-11 and Katrina, and then look at, um, fucking, uh, what happened in Puerto Rico and COVID, and I'd be like, okay, this party's ideas aren't good at scale. And so we just can't have them anymore. Like, I don't, we don't, uh, I'm not a big Joe Biden fan, but those ideas, the ideas of that party and of his like centerist moderate wing of the left. Those ideas were have worked at scale better than anything. Like we're not in a disaster when that you don't even mean like the Clinton years were not a giant rolling disaster. They were pretty good. And I just don't understand how people look at that and they're like, but I don't want that to be true. Like, like they want Reagan. They just want, they want the idea of, like, greed is good. Your basis instincts are good. And you're like, you're, in fact, like, a patriotic,
Starting point is 00:33:54 great religious figure, if you're selfish and self-involved. And like, I don't, I don't know. I guess I'm rambling, but I'm wondering, like, definitely, but totally rambling. But I think, like, I guess all of what I'm trying to say is at the end of the Trump administration When we take stock of what this was and what these four years were like, I don't want us to just jump into Biden fixing it and be like never again Like we need to actually as a country sit down and do some reflection that we didn't do after Reagan and we didn't do after Bush. We need to sit down and really reflect on what got us where we were and what happened with COVID
Starting point is 00:34:32 and what instincts and ideas and philosophies and I guess even just like what's the word, a principles, what principles would be prioritized? What's that word? Yeah. But like the things that we prioritize, what we don't wanna do anymore, or what didn't work. And I think I'm saying this to even
Starting point is 00:34:54 the conservative Republican part of this country, I am not a Lincoln project president, but I am begging you to reflect on what you have done and what you want to do. Because I need you to look at the cause and effect. Like, I don't, that's the thing that drives me out with talking to my parents or other family members who I disagree with politically is.
Starting point is 00:35:13 It's like, but just look at the results of the ideas. Whether or not you can understand how they're working or why they're appealing or not appealing, like, can you just look at the results and can we just have a basic mindset of like, if you get burned, let's not play with fire again. Look, I mean, I think, God, if Trump leaves office, if there is done another four years of this monster,
Starting point is 00:35:36 we have to like, we gotta like tackle America as a whole. Like, we gotta be like, what is this country gonna be now? How are we gonna do this because it cannot be like? I mean, I don't know why people care so much about what how other people like Like I don't care at all how other what other people do for the most part like I don't care if they're gay or straight I don't care if they're black or why like I just don't care like it's not even like I'm not even thinking about it because it's just like not important to me. I don't know why a lot of this stuff
Starting point is 00:36:08 is so important to other people. We need to address that. Obviously, we need to address systemic racism. We need to address like, people it's so important to them that other people are black. It's like people, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:36:19 stop thinking about it. They're like, there are black people. Like I need to climb down and like, we need to do some cognitive behavioral therapy or something. We need to get about it. They're like, there are black people. I need to climb down and like, we need to do some cognitive behavioral therapy or something. We need to get, like, yeah, we need to get to a place where it's like, we can like, work out whatever this feeling is in you that you need to give a fuck, you know, but also institutionally, we need to work out like why we keep allowing, you know, I mean, obviously, police violence is a big one.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I just wanna say, the police kill all kinds of people, by the way, not just black people, they do disproportionately kill black people. And that's a systemic racism at play. But the police are also out of fucking control, just full stop, full fucking stop. There are tons of them that are infucking league with these like right wing fucking hate groups.
Starting point is 00:37:05 They are they condoned violence from from from a certain groups while while demonizing violence from others. They they killed people on a regular basis for no reason. And they obviously disproportionately target and execute black people in America. That's seriously fucking bad. Like we need to do something about it but like policing as a whole is like built on the legacy of slavery it's built on like it's literally built on racism in many ways you know the first police that's what you catch that needs to be addressed right that needs to be addressed like like but but also I mean one thing that I am you know I'm not that excited about Joe Biden except to one thing that I am, you know, I'm not that excited about Joe Biden, except to say this, that I am excited for there to be a president in this country.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And I think, honestly, to his detriment, this is true, but I do think it is something that the country needs right now, to his detriment. I think Joe Biden believes that like everybody from both sides can like get in the tent, you know? And like everybody tent, you know? And like everybody's, you know, it's like he's like wants to reach across the aisle to the Republicans. I the only thing I want to reach across the aisle to do is to kill the Republicans, you know, ladies to throttle them in their fucking wooden seats that they sit at in the
Starting point is 00:38:16 Senate or whatever. But like Joe Biden's like, we got to work together and it's like, listen, I actually hate the idea. But at this moment, I do think we need the one thing that I have a little bit of hope out as a Joe Biden will. I think legitimately try to like, hopefully he's got help from people who aren't just Joe Biden, try to figure out like how we can actually run a country
Starting point is 00:38:38 where there are differing opinions that where it doesn't rise to like people running people over in the streets with cars. You know, like, like, they're, like, we should have, like, is there a good Republican? Like, I wanna know because here's the thing. Like, there's a lot of stuff that Republicans may be interested in that they want that I disagree with, but they aren't actually things that I get that mad about.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You know, like, you wanna have a big debate about how we tax people. Like, I, I think that's a, that's, you may have different opinions, you may have different schools of economic thought. Like I think that's a, you may have different opinions, you may have different schools of economic thought. Have that fucking debate, but don't have the debate about whether trans people are humans. That's not a fucking debate that I think is very important
Starting point is 00:39:15 to have in this country if you think they aren't. It's like there's one opinion that's right and there's one opinion that isn't, period. Trans people can't serve in the military. Why? I don't know, I just don't like it. Well, you don't get to have that fucking opinion You know, they said the same shit about women. It's like give me a fucking break. It's like it's like you know Abortion I understand there are definitely arguments right there are people who believe that abortion is murder They're wrong. They believe it. There are people who believe that it's necessary,
Starting point is 00:39:47 they're right, the reality is like, we have a law in the fucking books, we need to, people need to get in, like they need to get in line, you know? I can't go back to the days where abortion doctors are being killed with the fucking clinics, like that's where we're headed, we're like retrograde right now.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I think though, what we need to do to do that is, I'm not for like reaching across the aisle or fucking being like Republicans, come on into the party with your own agendas. I think what we need to do, or what I've found at least minimal, at least halfway success at doing, is finding things that we can agree on,
Starting point is 00:40:21 and not in the idea of like, well, we both agree that we won't water. Like, I think that we need to say like, obviously information is a problem because the conservatives call things fake news and the progressives say that conservatives believe in nonsense conspiracy theories. And I think that whether whoever's right, which we all know who's right there, but I think we can all agree that information in the age of the internet is dicey and confusing.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And so how can we tackle that together? What if we as a group invest more in education? I understand it's going to be frustrating because you don't want your taxes to go up. But what if we took a tiny, tiny, tiny slice of this one military budget and we made sure that teachers had the right resources so that people know how to do critical thinking. I feel like that is somewhere where we could build and solve a problem and both people will feel motivated
Starting point is 00:41:14 and feel like it's about them. Do you know what I mean? We don't even have to, we don't have to raise people's taxes. That's what I'm saying. We just, we don't have to. We just need to raise, we need to raise billionaires taxes. We need to raise corporate taxes. Give me a fucking break. We are we are the we need to cut military spending
Starting point is 00:41:28 I mean, that's all that that's why I know I know I'll just say like you want to make sure the military gets more money That's no problem actually We need to raise taxes on other people like not the middle class not poor people like Not the middle class, not poor people, like fucking billionaires and multi-billion dollar corporations. I mean, you've got corporations that pay no, Amazon paid no taxes in America. But last year. But what I mean is, and I think everyone who's listening agrees with that. But what I mean is that like, Tony agrees.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I think people who are on welfare don't want to be on welfare. People who hate people who are on welfare. No, they love it They love it. They love just lay like to lounge around. You know how it is But but if people just chill out people who hate the idea of welfare or helping out the poor Also don't want them on welfare. Totally. So we can all agree We don't want people on welfare. How do we get there? We're just we're disagreeing about how we get there You think we should just rip it away from people. They'll starve or they'll work and then it's over. I think that that's unrealistic because a lot of people have issues and those issues,
Starting point is 00:42:33 sometimes are society-sized issues that keep them from succeeding. So we need to have a middle ground. What if we found a program, some kind of jobs program, where we made sure things that we needed to get done were getting done, and we made sure those people were paid, and then nobody has to be on welfare. And you can get what you want, Republicans, welfare is over, but we need some kind of way, someone has to step in at some point, and make sure that there are jobs to be had, so that people don't have to go to welfare. That's the kind of like consensus building that I'm
Starting point is 00:43:02 willing to do, and that has to start on like a local level, it has to start in conversations with people. We can't expect Joe Biden to just make this case and all of America to sign up. We're not there anymore. That's not what's gonna happen. So like, I know, I agree. I think we need to start at a local level and just start engaging with people in that capacity because at the moment, it's like everything is labeled before we even start talking and I'm certainly not someone who thinks that like, kumbaya will all come
Starting point is 00:43:30 together. But I do think that when we start the conversation saying, left the left likes education and the right doesn't. It's like, well then we're never going to get anywhere when I educate, like I don't know what to tell you then because like then we're gonna default to nothing, or like to way less than we need. So I don't think that's productive, and I certainly don't think that the right
Starting point is 00:43:51 wants to be labeled as anti-education. So let's identify a problem. They don't wanna be labeled as anti-education, but they don't really want to invest in education. Sure. I mean, just generally speaking. But I mean their constituents, I mean moms and dads in this country
Starting point is 00:44:04 don't wanna be like, I hate school. dads in this country don't want to be like I hate school. That's not what they're trying to say. What they end up doing is these back flips where they're like I hate public schools and what we need is a voucher system. Like we need to cut through that and be like let's prioritize education and what is the most efficient and cheapest way to get the best results. Let's find that together and then just do it.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Like we don't have to, this doesn't have to be like I just feel like everything comes down to being like do you love Godzilla or do you hate Godzilla? It's like there's no fucking Godzilla. Stop. Like there's no I mean yeah I mean I'm indifferent on Godzilla honestly you know take me now Godzilla is what I feel just fucking kill me. Well in any event. Yeah we should do you want to talk about some tech stuff? Talk about something else. Let's just talk about some other things that aren't Trump. God, I'm sorry though, listen, Tony,
Starting point is 00:44:50 it's very possible that after this week, this could be, this could return to like a technology and culture podcast, not about Donald Trump. What if we had a, I should, like an interview with like Johnny I, or something. Next week is Johnny Ives we can get Trump out of office that's my guarantee and promise to you if I can't get
Starting point is 00:45:09 actual Johnny Ives I'll find a British person who has a very similar accent who owns a black t-shirt and I will feed them answers I will feed the answers yeah anyhow all right what do you want to talk about what else what else is there so did you see that cyberpunk 2077 is being Oh, don't even get me started on cyberpunk 2077 folks. I watched a trailer in January of 2013 For cyberpunk 2077, okay, I was alone in the nude
Starting point is 00:45:44 Watching a trailer. I don't know. I don't think I was in the nude. I was probably not alone either. I was probably in an office actually in the point is in 2013 CD project Rob was like it's folks. It's coming cyberpunk 2077 the most awesome cyberpunk video game of all time. I was like I'm make space on your shelf. Yeah, you gotta make some space on that shelf. And now listen, and they're defense, and they're defense, they're like, coming when it's ready. I'm like fair enough, games take time. You know, this could be a few years down the road. It could be seven years from now.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It could be seven years down the road. That's the one that's not a good move. No, come forever, we get it. Yeah, dude. Like, they might just cancel it, okay? They might, You don't know Cyberpunk 2077 was like delayed and then delayed and then delayed and then it was like, okay, it's coming out November 19th. You're going to get your new console right at the beginning
Starting point is 00:46:34 of November. When's it? When's the Xbox coming out? Well, I mean, the first announced launch was way back like in the not forget it. Okay, just let's just be clear. Okay. They pushed it back a lot. But then they were like, boom, it's happening okay, just let's just be clear okay, they pushed it back a lot But then they were like boom. It's happening this year November 19th at it's we fucking we're we're actually people are dying at the CD project red factory the game factory Where they make the games because we're pushing them so hard to finish this game at time I'm like yes kill those developers put their body into a meat grinder, and then turn that meat into food to serve to the other developers so you can get Cyberpunk 2077 done in time. And then, but then they were like, so then, so I'm like, okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:47:16 The new concerts are going to come out on like November, when the playstation is like November 12th, I think the Xbox is November 10th. I want to say, because they just gotta be, they just gotta be different. Um, and then you're, you know, a couple days later, you're gonna fucking get cyberpunk and it's gonna be like, oh shit, this is what I signed up for. This is it. So now they're like, sorry, you know, we know we said for real this time. You know, we've been like, so in like greening all of the dead developers, it's still not enough. We're pushing it back till December But I gotta tell you and listen I get it. I understand Games are hard to make big games like this are really really hard to make and you can't I'm not like well
Starting point is 00:47:56 I'm a game developer. Let me tell you how it should have gone. I don't fucking know. You know, they went through a lot of shit Okay, I'm just saying like I don't know how much longer I can wait saying, I don't know how much longer I can wait. I don't know how much longer I can take it. I mean, 2013, you know what, in 2013, I first of, I didn't have a child, okay? I had no child. There was nobody was, fucking, there was no,
Starting point is 00:48:21 you didn't hear anything about Trump, You know, there was no Trump. Who was president in 2013, Obama? Obama had just gotten reelected. You know, it was good time. You know the financial crisis was over. You know, the whole of that. The whole of that. The airing on HBO.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Girls was on HBO. People were like, this Lena Dunham's a genius. She'll definitely never say anything offensive about anybody and You know, it was like a great time, okay? 20 Perry you get a great year It seemed like the whole world was ahead of us. No, I mean, I you know, it's like I You know, I have a grown-ass child down a six year old, okay? In the time that it's taken I have a human being who can fucking read and Okay, in the time that it's taken I have a human being who can fucking read and
Starting point is 00:49:11 Perform musicals and as you know doing some woodworking with me and what his CD project red given us nothing Why not just release a little 10 minute demo or something give us a little something you know Give us a little taste. They're like here's 35 minutes of gameplay. It's like cool Can I get like one minute of the game? I wonder how many times they've re-released the Witcher 3 in the time it took them to announce and then release Cyberpunk 2077? I mean, there's, cyberpunk 2077, there's no way it can be good now. I mean, it's going to be the greatest, even if it's the best game ever made, it's going to be the biggest disappointment we've ever experienced. There's no way it could possibly live up to how everybody's feeling.
Starting point is 00:49:43 We read a story actually today or yesterday about how the developers are getting death threats over this game. Yeah, pretend, don't, like you gotta be, don't you get this. The thing I want to point out though, yeah, is that the developers are getting death threats, but it's because they're taking a long time with the game, but I guarantee you
Starting point is 00:49:59 that those people have been crunching like you would not fucking believe. I bet you they are sleeping under their desks, shitting themselves like these people are glued to these ground up and a meek rider turned into and disobeyed the developer. You don't know if you death threat them, their company is already doing that.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Their company is literally killing them, okay? You just like they'll get, they're gonna get there, do. But here's the thing, no, yeah, don't do any death threats but yeah, I just think, listen, I don't know, it's been a long time, man, I don't know what to expect anymore, you know, I'm nervous, I'm worried, I'm scared, I'm elated, I'm feeling all the range of emotions, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Like, I honestly, I'll tell you something. One thing that was going on for me with this election stuff was like, I was like, well, the election this could be really bad. I was like, but you know what, Tyra Punk is going to come out like pretty shortly after the election. And so like, at least no matter how bad it is,
Starting point is 00:50:55 I can spend my time focused on like playing a video game. It's not part of actual reality. Now, what do I gotta do? I'm going to start, I gotta go back to red dead redemption or something? You know He'd be come on I got to play Hades I'm not playing Hades. I'm playing top-down games. I'm not playing top-down games I didn't think I would either now all I play is I'm not doing it. I probably put it
Starting point is 00:51:19 I'll probably put a hundred hours into Hades pretty soon You're a very sick person you You know, I love it. At any rate, at any rate, and at every rate. So yes, I wrote on 2777, huge disappointment, huge delay. Everyone's mad. And, you know, we don't know what's going to happen now, just like the election, anything can happen. Anything is possible. And, you know, it's very troubling and trying.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And that's how I feel. Speaking of anything as possible and walking on water and raining cats and dogs and this guy being green. Okay, these are all just plaid, these are all just cliches. We're living in, well we're living in an alternate reality where all of that is true because Apple is developing a search engine to compete with Google. Right on the heels of Google's antitrust legislation, right on the heels of Google having to go to before congressional hearing to discuss section 230, Google's horrible year continues with
Starting point is 00:52:21 their personal nightmare, which I truly believe Facebook brought to them them i think the only reason people are mad at google is because they're mad at facebook and google's easier to punch i agree and i think well conservatives actually like facebook exactly that's the problem uh... but i think uh... this is the weirdest thing yet is apple is developing its own search engine it's very strange to me not because i don't think that like
Starting point is 00:52:44 obviously a tech company wants to compete with another tech company, we've got Bing. But Apple is the least information and internet savvy tech company that has ever existed at that scale. I'm talking about like the Xerox days. Apple does not understand the internet, it does not understand data.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And so it's so much that they've started marketing their complete inability to process your data as a privacy feature. That they want to be the people leading searches very confusing, like, baby, get Siri in order, go collect her before you start building search engines. I agree, honestly, I'm sort of like confused in a way like First off, why doesn't Apple just buy just buy duck duck go? Yes
Starting point is 00:53:33 Why don't they just buy duck duck go and then they could be all privacy obsessed? They can say look we purchased this one and we're gonna keep it a nonprofit part of the company and it is a privacy Obsessed alternative and stick it to Google. It's a win-win for everybody but Google. Right. I just think it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me for them to try to home grow it because they're really bad at this stuff. I mean, they're really bad at the internet.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They have consistently failed at making pretty good internet products. I mean, even their iCloud thing, their iCloud interface is like a nightmare to use on a computer. Like when I have to go to iCloud.com, which by the way, if you have stuff on Apple News, which we do, and you want to look at your app, you have to go to their, you have to go to their bad, whack, analytics dashboard,
Starting point is 00:54:19 which absolutely sucks assets for Apple. And it's just like load slowly, and it's like, it's just really, really bad. I mean, I can't, I mean Apple makes a lot of great stuff, but they also make some things that suck. We literally published our iPhone 12 review and said it is a near-perfect phone.
Starting point is 00:54:36 But we are still living basically in like mobile-me ping reality with Apple. It's really, it's bad stuff. Their internet stuff is just not great. And, um, I mean, I'm going to show you're using pages in the cloud. I mean, I just want to be hundreds and like Google Docs is a standard across industries and, and Apple's making paint. Like, I just don't see Apple making a search engine that is good for anything but surfacing like the latest Trump news and your search panel or you know what I mean? Like I could see them being like push notification McDonald's is releasing a vegetarian burger like that's the kind of thing that they the information that they know how to call it.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I can't imagine typing in like you know how to fix this specific kind of drain pipe and Apple being able to return a result that isn't Siri being like, I Googled it. Yeah, I mean, it's really difficult to imagine. I mean, I actually like the idea of a search engine that's good, that competes with Google. I love the idea of competition in the search space because I actually think Google has gotten really bad for search. Like, there's a lot of stuff that like Google does with search that I find to be aggravating.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And so if somebody could like get it better, that'd be fucking amazing. And it's crazy. You know, and do it. And this duck duck go has a better feature set of privacy stuff, but also being has some specific parts of it that are way more efficient than Google, but also being has some specific parts of it that are way more efficient than Google, but their overall product is so bad that it doesn't
Starting point is 00:56:09 matter. So there is a world in which someone could pull the pieces together. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, like, it's hard to, I don't know what, I don't know what good or bad search would look like on these other services. Let me just do a quick search for myself over here on Duck Duck Dell. Let me see what I got. I mean, let's see here. What is, here's my, people AI, let's see what my net worth is. Joshua Tbilcki net worth 87 millions of dollars. Net worth score 87 percent. I don't know what that means. That's true. I'm worth $87 million. How did they know? It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:56:46 They have my height. Let's see if they got my height here. According to this I'm five seven Josh five steps for the listener who may not know Tony is a very tall man I'm worth eight. I'm worth $87 million and I'm five seven. Yeah, that's the job I know. And I won't have people slandering him or changing that. Thank you. Hey, after this call can I borrow some of that $87 million? I should articulate that that is not what Duck Duck Go itself is saying. They just brought up a result that was like a website
Starting point is 00:57:27 that is like some kind of bot run. I gotta tell you, I'm looking at Google's results for me, they're much better. I hate to say it. They're much better. Yeah, I don't think anyone thinks that DuckDuckGo is a better search engine. It just has better features and it's better,
Starting point is 00:57:42 it's more consumer friendly. But I will say there are some areas in which I got safe search, I got safe search on, let me see what happens, I can give my only fans page on here if I turn safe search off, I'm ducked. Real weird only fans page, man. My only fans is just be talking about whether or not I'm 57 and how much money I'm worth.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Anyhow, whatever, it's don't Google yourself, huge mistake in my opinion. My life, look at this. Oh, here's one that says my income and net worth is 10 to $19,000. Oh, shit. I'm somewhere between, here's the thing. I'm worth somewhere between $19,000 and 87 million, OK?
Starting point is 00:58:21 So you figure it out. You do the math. You figure it the fuck out. What's my reputation score? Hold on. Remember cloud? Remember cloud scores? What is my reputation score?
Starting point is 00:58:33 It says, approximate reputation score, 2.71 to five out of five. What, that, okay, I don't think I myself a thumbs up. Nope, doesn't work. Shit, so fucked up. I saw a commercial while I was watching CNN. It was like, it was like a guy in a job interview and they're like, they're like, we read things are looking, you know, you've seen really great for this job, but we've been, we searched online and we found some troubling things.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And he's like, that stuff is false. And it's like, has this happened to you? It's like, if it's happened to you, I bet there's a reason. I bet there's a reason that it's happened to you. And it's not just an accident that people are like, don't hire this guy. Are you, you need one of the services that searches for your name on the dark web? That's it.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Mom all over the dark web, because that's how I sell my accessing. That's a well-known fact. And anyway, what were we talking about? I'm sure there was a topic here. I'm sure. We were talking about Apple Search Engine, but we can move on.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Oh, yeah, Apple Search Engine. I think it's gonna be great. Okay. All right, should we do some nice things and wrap this thing up? Is that what we're calling them, nice things? Nice things. Can't remember.
Starting point is 00:59:42 It's been so long since I felt a nice thing, truly. Anyhow, I'll go. So, I am obsessed with, and I've been obsessed with for like a year and a half at this point, but I was currently in a full blown obsession with Reena Sawa-yama, who is a Japanese British pop star, who has come to the US a bit. She is amazing. Her album is so
Starting point is 01:00:07 good and so great. She is a song out now called XS which I have been praising to anyone who would listen for a very long time and it's finally starting to like break through a little bit. It sounds so early 2000s pop but also there's just like an Alannis Morse that vibe that comes through. It's like if Britney Spears met Alannis Morse that met like like like like metal like metal music. It's so good. She mixes like screamo with like Bob Dylan style with like it's just weird. She's so good. She's very original. She's around my
Starting point is 01:00:43 age which is always rarry to see someone break through, especially in pop music around your own age. At this age, once you're over the age of 24, it's very odd to see someone break through in that way. And she performed on Jimmy Fallon this week. And a friend of mine works there and was like, you need to be ready. And I was like, OK okay and it was so good.
Starting point is 01:01:06 What's the album? What's the album called? It's called Sawa Yama. Okay. And it's it's really good. Listen to XS first, it's my favorite track of hers, but all of the other ones are great. But there was a live performance that was on Fallon this week, which was her first televised performance ever. And it was so weird and good. It was a mix of like like early 80s like Debbie Harry style like photography with a little bit of like Britney Spears Lady Gaga tiny bit of choreography all live vocals some like really great metal moments and she's just dressed at like Gwen Stefani in the early 2000s
Starting point is 01:01:41 It's just it's so many good elements that I didn't know worked together. And it's also totally original. Like it does actually feel original, not like she's just referencing references. It's just, it's really good. And I haven't felt excited about somebody who I felt was naturally good at this kind of a job in a long time.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Like, you know, like there's always like a Shawn Mendes where you're like, yeah, you were built in a laboratory to be a pop star, we get it. But to see someone who's just like a star from the inside out, even if she didn't have perfect skin, even if she wasn't beautiful what she is, she's just really talented musician and a really compelling
Starting point is 01:02:12 person. And so I'm just so down with it. I think it's really cool. I'm John, who I've been trying to get into her for a long time, never really got into her. And then this week, he was like, so it's been listening to a lot of the Sawa Yama Alva. And I'm like, yes, you fucking have it's like all happening so it's good also
Starting point is 01:02:28 I thought I think Adele on SNL was in general I'm not a big SNL person lately but I think she's very funny and charming so there was oh I watched that episode she's very SNL is that it's she's charming SNL's at its worst it's ever been yes, yeah, I guess Bowen Yang aside Bowen Yang aside it's having a very tough Bowen Yang is great
Starting point is 01:02:50 but I feel like Bowen Yang is just Bowen Yang in most sketches which I like like I like I like Bowen Yang but it's very much like he's just like doing his thing and then the rest of the stuff is happening around them around him so okay so interesting
Starting point is 01:03:03 I'm gonna listen to this, this arena, Sawa Yama, is that, is that how you pronounce it? I'm probably mispronounced it. So she's also British, which is, of course, you know for me a big red flag, but. Hopefully you can let's pass it. English, sorry, is she British?
Starting point is 01:03:19 Wait, is she from English? Yes, Japanese British. Ooh, okay. You know, I feel about the Brit. I know you do. Big fan of their work. Love colonialism. No, they're very good.
Starting point is 01:03:30 They're great. Brexit all the way. If you like, if you love Brexit, if you like eating beans on toast, you're gonna love the British. I mean, honestly, beans on toast is pretty good. Like, beans on anything really is good. I mean, you know, people- It can miss me with beans on toast, but good like beans on anything really is good I mean, you know people who can miss me with beans don't get enough love
Starting point is 01:03:49 Laura's in this bean club you know about the being club. What's the bean club? It's a it's a club where they send you beans Apparently they have a waiting list of like 40,000 people. It's like very hard to get into the bean club now And they send you it's like a guy who has like a bean farm I guess and he sends like bean he sends like bespoke beans like farm to table beans huh I don't know the bean club look it up I never been so big club but okay no really yeah I'm the bean suck okay keep going it's they're no, that's not my nice thing. So my nice thing, I actually have two nice things, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:28 One, my one nice thing is that it's Halloween, we're in the Halloween corridor now, okay. I mean, we've been, it's October, but it's the 29th, you know, now Zelda can't trick or treat because of COVID-19, that's one thing that they're not doing at least around here. Yeah, I think it makes sense. Like going door to door, even if you're wearing a mask,
Starting point is 01:04:46 still like kind of like, I don't know. I know, but it's tough. It's not uncomfortable. It's a tough thing for kids to hear no, too. It's tough for her. It's tough for her to hear, except she bounces back like instantaneously. So she did last week, she threw a Halloween theme surprise party
Starting point is 01:04:59 for me for my birthday, which obviously is a very small group of people. It's just us and her aunt and uncle who have also been quarantined in the only people that we actually see. But it was super fun and great and a wonderful birthday. And then we're going to have, she decided we're going to have a Halloween party instead of trick or treating, which is great. And so, you know, I just love, but she's like really into the spooky stuff and really into like Halloween decor and Halloween costumes.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And I think that's terrific. And I mean, Halloween is my favorite holiday. And so it's wonderful to be able to share it with Zelda. So that's one thing. So I love, I just love this time of year. It's just like my favorite. It's just, you know, October is just such a great month. And then the other nice thing is that this,
Starting point is 01:05:44 that at least, I know it's really, really stressful, but this week is coming to a close, and next week is upon us, and it's like, it's real. Something's going to happen. We may, I hope I think a really good chance of getting out of this crazy rut that we've been in with this fucking president, and that's gonna happen in less than a week.
Starting point is 01:06:06 And that, and that to me, when I allow myself to have even a tiny little glimmer of what hope might look like, I feel very excited that we could begin the work of getting this country back on track. You know, locally, federally, globally, like there's so much work that has to be done to fix the shit that's been broken. But I think that we can actually start that work soon.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And that's exciting. So, you know, this week's almost over, it's almost time to vote. Please go vote. Please. And don't vote for Donald Trump. If you vote for Donald Trump, I honestly, if you're voting for Donald Trump and you listed this podcast, there's something really, really wrong with you. And I need you to seek help immediately.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Anyhow, that's it. Those are my things. Now we should get out of here. All right. Bye. OK. Bye. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week post-election with more tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And as always, I wish you and your family the very best though I've just been told that your family looked themselves up on duck duck go and the heights are all wrong. you

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