Tomorrow - 213: Pompeii
Episode Date: November 2, 2020This is it guys. This is the last podcast before the big one. We're in the final stretch. It all comes down to this. This Tuesday is National Sandwich Day. Josh and Ryan will be participating. Will yo...u? Also Apple is making a search engine and Cyberpunk 2077 is delayed. Again. Episode 213! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh with Topolski. Today on the podcast we discuss Red Dead Redemption, Search Engines, and Jerry Mandraine.
I don't want to waste one minute.
Let's get right into it.
Alright, we're back, man.
Here it is.
This is it.
The moment you've all been waiting for for Ryan the moment you've been waiting for
The end of Donald Trump's first term. The sun is setting. Well, we don't know. We don't know it's gonna
Maybe it'll rise again, but it is setting at the moment and the first time the sun's I wouldn't get to it
It's not the sun setting. It's more like
I don't know. It's like the volcano has stopped or it's like the eruption has stopped
And we think the lava is maybe going to congeal and just rock like the volcano has stopped or it's like the eruption has stopped.
And we think the lava is maybe going to congeal and just rock.
And there won't be another volcano, but there could be another volcano. And this one's going to is going to be a, a, a pom-pay situation.
I'm hoping that we don't have a pom-pay situation, but
yes, same. I mean, I'm hoping with, I'm hoping with my dollars, I'm hoping that we don't have a bomb-based situation, but... Yes, same.
I mean, I'm hoping with my dollars, I'm hoping with my votes.
I'm hoping with my prayers to all any and all of the gods.
You know, but this is it.
It's October, today, October 29th.
And in a few days, we're going to have election day,
which is a day where people traditionally go in vote,
but what's actually happened is a lot of people have already voted, and a lot more people are
going to vote. Some are male and ballots, some are early voting. And now we're in a point where
as everything looks like, it's very much leaning towards a democratic victory, a Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris victory for the presidential election.
Trump has begun a campaign.
There's a huge campaign that's going on now that's coordinated across many, many states
coordinated with his now fully conservative Supreme Court, or at least conservatively weighted Supreme Court,
to prevent states from counting ballots, from counting ballots after election.
This is his new, this is the new focus of the end of this fucking, just absolutely horrific and halacious presidency
that we've experienced over the last four years.
He wants to, he's now tweeting about it,
he's talking about it, he's suggesting
there's court cases being brought,
where they wanna have the election results on election night,
which is not even possible, has never been done
as far as I know, in the history of this country,
is impossible from a logistics standpoint,
even if everybody voted on election day.
There will be a clear, I think,
I like to think, I hope,
that on election night, quote unquote night,
we will see a winner emerge
that is aligned with the actual voter preference, meaning I hope that we'll
see a winner emerge based on election day and counts coming in from ballot county, which
can only start on election day for a lot of places because of laws, Republicans have created,
that we'll start to see an overwhelming support, I hope, for Joe Biden and for Kamala Harris.
If it looks that way, my guess is the Trump will want the voting counts to continue.
I mean, I have trouble believing that Trump's losing clearly on election day, that he'll
go, let's stop the counting right now.
You know?
But that's the push as of right now.
Who knows if it's even possible?
There's no precedent for anyone being like, let's stop the counting. There's no precedent,
but in a complete crazy town. No, there's no precedent, but Brett Kavanaugh in a recent Supreme
Court ruling made mention of this idea of the election being, you know, the results of the
election being known on the day of the election, which is like an insane...
That doesn't mean even being in any sense.
Like, it's an insane citation to make because it's unheard of in this country.
It's like, it's not based in reality.
There is no...
The only thing that's happened that's changed for us in a lot of ways is that
we've gone away from having very clearly the Republicans because of their gerrymandering
and their voter intimidation and voter suppression and all of these things they've done have
created a situation where the vote now seems like so unbelievably impossibly close in
so many places that it is this kind of like well
You need to count every vote because it's not a margin of like 10% he won by 10%
It's a margin of like a few thousand votes here and there and and so you know you you you look at the last election
You say well Trump only won by
70,000 votes 70,000 the 70,000 votes that were counted for Trump in
Pennsylvania Wisconsin and 70,000 votes, 70,000, the 70,000 votes that were counted for Trump in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and what, Michigan?
Those are the ones that gave him the election.
That's it.
If it were 75,000 in the other direction, or 70,000 in the other direction, Trump wouldn't
be president.
So now their focus comes to Pennsylvania, where he's's losing but has to win Florida, Ohio, Michigan,
Wisconsin.
This is a handful of states, right?
If Trump doesn't win them, like he can't win, right?
So you know, it's going to, this is going to get ugly before it gets better.
I mean, the question is, is this country
can this country actually take on direct out loud and direct and out loud and in public
attempt to steal the vote from voters, to steal the election from potentially the candidate
that voters have selected, to prevent legally acceptable votes from being counted.
I mean, I don't know that a country,
I don't know that we're not in like an actual
on the street civil war at some point,
pretty closely following that,
if Trump just somehow can decide
that people's votes won't be counted.
I mean, that's some Russian shit.
So I don't know, I don't know where we go.
You know, the only people who seem ready to like gear up and start shooting are the right-wing
militias. So I'm not sure how we handle a situation where the where the supporter of the right-wing
militia steals the election. I'm no longer using the word militia, by the way. I'm using terrorists.
So there's no difference. Yeah, terrorists. What I mean, right-wing terror, whatever. I mean,
they're, yeah, it's just hard to describe. Like malicious to me has a very specific meaning,
which is like a group of neckbeards in the woods
with a lot of guns.
Totally, totally.
I just think that that's what they want to be called.
And I'm not, I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, yeah, I mean, they're definitely terrorists.
There's no question.
I mean, they're like terrorists,
most of them are like terrorists, like, in waiting.
They're, they haven't done terrorism yet.
They're terrorists.
But they have.
They're, they're like, yeah, no, well, they're more than curious.
They're like, they're ready to do terrorism.
No, that's, like, by curious.
Like, they just have, yeah, they're ready to do it.
They're, they're, they're, they're prepped.
They're excited about it.
Yeah.
It's just they haven't like taken the plunge.
They have the chance.
They haven't had the chance yet.
Yeah. No, I get it. That makes sense. Anyhow, man, so it's like it's dark days,
it's dark days. I want to be in a fucking... We should be right now people who are on the left
should be cautiously optimistic that we can get this fucking pig out of office and start cleaning up the disgusting
mess that he's made all over our country.
That's how I want to feel, but how I actually feel is I'm just scared, just so scared that
we have lost, that democracy is over in this country and that we are, we're going to see
the full execution of that
uh... uh... in the next you know we're two
that that we're going to see the real like the little true loss of democracy
is that
out you know trump can be a horrible president and he can act like a dictator and
he can sign executive orders but to but the test for democracy is whether or
not if a majority of people want him to stop,
that they have a mechanism by which they can get him to stop,
which is the vote, right?
The only way for the only real way,
the only technical way for the population of this country
to say we don't want it to be like this,
is to speak with their vote.
I mean, obviously we can protest, Obviously, we can go onto the streets
and go onto social media and talk about it.
But when it comes to the technical implementation
of how we voice our opinion about politics, this is it.
It's just the vote.
If the vote can be overruled by the president,
then that's a dictatorship and democracy is over in America, and that's not hyperbole.
That's just fat. If the president can overrule the will of the people in a vote, in their vote,
then democracy in this country has ended, and we are in a dictatorship. And that is fucking
insane to talk about, but it's like, I think in a week,
we'll know if that's actually happening or not.
You know, in a week, we'll know,
are we living in a dictatorship?
And this is not, again, I'm saying this,
I know people that go,
the loops have been driven crazy.
Like this isn't,
you're a fucking Republican,
this should really fucking worry you.
If you're a Republican,
it should really fucking worry you.
The vote is central to democracy in this country
It's central to what America is if you are if your vote is taken away from you
You're not living in America. You're living in Trump's country
Trump's dictatorship a Donald fucking Trump a
Benzo and Adderall addicted shit for brains
Races shit for brains who race is shit for brains,
who doesn't give a shit about a single person
in this country except for himself.
But there are so many people who would rather live
in a country started by a reality star
with like a nuke pointed at people of color.
They would rather live in that country
than a country where like Stephen Colbert
gets to be smug.
Yeah, I mean, but whatever, there are more,
I believe in my heart,
there are more people who want the good thing
than the bad thing in this country.
And the only way, you see,
the only way the Republicans can,
in a situation like this where they have put themselves,
they have put who they really are on full display.
I believe the only way, when people see who the Republican
party really is, which is the
party of Trump and the party of backroom deals and the party of voter disenfranchised
mint and voter suppression and ignoring the electorates will and wishes, when they
put themselves on display like that, I really believe that there's a majority of people
in this country who will reject that.
I do.
The problem is, then you see the only way they can truly win.
The only way, and I'll say this, I actually believe this, I think at this point,
the only way Donald Trump can win this election now is if he steals it.
The only way that they can win the general election is if they go through a very complex and malicious steps
to suppress or deny the will of the voting public unless every fucking poll and every early voting
number then every requested mail-in ballot number is wrong
i mean i really believe i think the only way donald trump can win is to steal it
and they know that at this point
they put themselves unfold display they've shown what they really are
and they are being i think they are being rejected by the american public
if if if i'm wrong
in the american public wants more years of what donald trump has to offer
then this is not a country that I want to live in.
It's not.
It's just, this is a bad place with a majority of bad people.
Because what Trump's doing is bad.
The people around him are bad.
They're not good.
They don't have the population's best interest in mind.
They don't believe in the ideals that built America.
They do not want America to continue as it has continued in the
manner that it's continued.
So like, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, at this point, I really believe that the desire to get Donald Trump out of offices
far greater than the desire to keep him there in this country.
And that's not a plus or minus for Joe Biden in any way, to be honest with you.
I just think that I just think that it's reality.
And so we'll see.
I don't think they can win without cheating.
And I think they kind of know that,
which is why they're gearing up for cheating,
which is why that's what they're talking about right now
with less than a week to go in the election.
I don't know, maybe I'm crazy.
Do you know the sound of crazy?
I think, for me, I guess I'm trying to focus on my, the anxieties that I can
sort of control for this week because I don't, I, I don't have, after the lap, after 2016,
I know it sounds, everyone fucking says it.
I'm just, I, everyone says it and it's so try to this point, but I'm very traumatized
and I don't like making predictions and I don't want to be,
I don't want the rug pulled out from under me again.
So I'm just trying to focus on the fact that
in order to early vote every day
that we have tried to do it, starting last Saturday,
we've tried to do it, it's, we've been in line
and we've tried a couple times to stay on there for an hour and we're just like,
all right, well, we're gonna have to find a day
when we can block off five hours to stand in line.
Like we don't, we literally don't have it in the day.
There's just errands that have to be done.
You're saying that have to be loaded.
Yeah, yeah, there's things that have to be done.
And so like, I'm gonna try, I think tomorrow morning,
we're gonna get up at four or five o'clock
and stand outside this high school on a hundred and second street.
And hope, but those are the little things
that I'm trying to control for that
or like when I see people in my personal life,
promoting or talking about the Lincoln project,
like I'm trying to do my part to be like,
hey, those are just Republicans
and they're using your money to like,
squirrel away to their anonymous lobbying firms and stuff like
That's not a good cause just because they make a
Sassy meme or whatever using Wendy Williams like please don't give them your money
There are progressives and progressive causes and like we're even just Joe Biden like just give your money to Joe Biden at this point
So like those little things that I can like
just give your money to Joe Biden at this point. So like those little things that I can like handle,
I'm not gonna convince, at this point,
there's no way that I personally, Ryan Huleyann,
am going to convince anyone not to vote for Donald Trump.
They don't wanna hear it from me.
So what I can do, and what I can worry about,
I'm trying to keep a handle on,
because otherwise, like this,
this is the most anxious I've been about
something that wasn't directly, I mean, this does directly
if I can make it, but you know what I mean?
That isn't about, is it like, oh, I have a weird rash,
I need to get the dog.
I'm coming out of the closet, or my grandmother died,
or do you know what I mean?
Like, those are the things.
This is the level of anxiety that I'm at,
and I have no control over any of it.
And so, no, I know. No, I know. I know. No, I know. I know. I know. I know. And so, no, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I know. No, I. You know what I mean? Like, I would just, how do you get out of bed in the morning if you're staring down a literal gun barrel?
Like, you know, so I don't know.
I'm also just sort of, I think for the after two.
Like, I'm starting to think like,
even if he loses, what is the immediate stuff
that could like go down, you know?
Trump TV.
Trump TV, an immediate announcement of Trump TV.
No, here's the thing.
I will say, on the early voting thing, by the way, Trump TV, Trump TV, an immediate announcement of Trump TV. No, here's the thing.
I will say on the early voting thing, by the way,
because we tried to early vote around here,
which is, I live outside of the city,
so I thought, well, this will be more chill.
And both places we went that are nearby,
were like huge lines, like hours wait, right?
We bought full, and here's the have umbrellas on them, because that's how we're gonna like hours wait. We bought full, and tears that have umbrellas on them,
because that's how we're gonna have to wait.
But here's one thing that's interesting to think about
that Laura pointed out to me, and I was like,
oh, that makes me feel a little bit better.
Cause you're like, what the fuck is with these lines?
You're like, but where we're at right now
is that for very large populations,
I think they expected early voting would be, there'd be more of course,
because of the coronavirus,
but not like it would be you need the level of voting
you'd need for a typical election day.
So for typical election day,
where we live, and I think this is true of a lot of places,
you have chunks of blocks that are like,
you're in these blocks,
you can go vote at these polling places.
Like where we live, there's like a place
that we vote every year, every election,
that like there's like, you know,
it's like a thousand or so people vote there.
Overall, like you can't vote there
if you're not from like that certain area that handles it.
And so as a result, there's like 11 different polling places in our
like general neighborhood, not a neighborhood, but more than that, but like our town, you know? So
so so when you think about it that way, it kind of makes you feel a little bit better because you're
like, oh wow, yes, of course, lines are long now because these these are single places trying to
handle many, many larger groups of people who are voting from many different areas
and there's not that many, there aren't as many individual sort of defined places to vote.
There's a lot, the early voting places, you can go to any one of them and cast your vote, you know?
And so it's not like you can only go to the one in this area. And so that, so I'm less worried about,
I mean, I was very concerned like I'm like, what the fuck, like,
why are there these huge lines?
But there's huge lines.
I think to be, obviously,
there's a lot of energy people want to go vote.
They think it's really important.
And we're obviously dealing in a situation,
dealing with a situation where like,
on election day, there should be,
and I'm sure we're still going to see reports
all over the country,
and even in places like New York,
there will be,
there's going to be places where there's huge lines,
but there should be hopefully more places
where you can go in and get your vote done
in a timely fashion because they're just simply
will be more polling places.
But like it is, of course, you know,
all of that stuff just contributes to the anxiety,
the mail-in ballot stuff, I'm like, you know,
I want this to work.
And it looks like a lot of people have requested ballots.
If you look at the numbers, like a lot of Democrats,
way more Democrats than Republicans have requested ballots.
More Republicans than Democrats, sorry,
more Democrats than Republicans have returned their ballots.
And like, so that's really interesting.
You know, you go, well, that's really, the Republicans will say, well, the Republicans don't trust, the Republicans don't trust
the mail-in voting or whatever, which is, I think, a lie, just a made-up fucking lie.
You know, I think Republicans have been doing mail-in voting just as much as Democrats have
historically in places where you can do it. So, you know, it's interesting, you know, but like everything is a little bit of a, so
I'm just rambling now, everything is a little bit of just an additional brick in the wall
of total anxiety and frustration that I'm feeling right now.
And I wanted to end, you know, somebody wrote an article in the New York Times and I think it's Michelle Goldberg who I think historically writes horrible things. I can't remember, but she wrote
this thing four ways a year thinking about Donald Trump. And I actually think more than
almost anything I've read about Donald Trump, this really, I don't think all of our time
has been wasted because I think Donald Trump has exposed some things in America that are
really bad that we need to deal with head on.
So I think there's actually been a lot of moments
in his presidency thus far that have given us
a good reason to start to think and talk about things
that we haven't been thinking and talking about.
But I think there's been a lot of time,
of brain power, of anxiety, of, you know, not, I
feel bad for four fucking years straight.
We have spent eight months indoors when that was not, that didn't have to happen.
It just didn't have to happen.
Didn't have to happen.
It didn't.
And you know something just about that, people talk about it like this, he talks about it
like it's this inevitability, but it's like like I don't know why nobody says it's like in New York
We had a massive outbreak of COVID-19. We had people dying
By the thousands people were stored in cold trucks because there was no order
They were in cold trucks. It's stored three high-end cold trucks bodies were being stacked. I'm serious
We had an absolute crisis here. It was insane. People, I think
people have forgotten, if you didn't live in New York, you probably don't even think
of it. If you lived in New York, it's like you want to kind of erase the memory because
it was so traumatic. But we got it under the fucking under fucking control. Okay. People
were dying. People were getting sick. People, they were spreading out of control. And then
we got it under control.
We made mandates about wearing masks everywhere.
We made mandates about schools.
We made mandates about where you couldn't go and how many people you could go there with.
We made mandates about people who could come in and out of this, out of New York.
And now we have one of the lowest, if not the lowest, transmission rates in the country.
And I have news for everybody else out there.
People in New York are doing most of the things
that they normally do at this point.
They can go out and eat.
They can fucking go to a museum.
They can walk around the streets.
Like, we're not living in the ghost town
that Donald Trump describes.
We're actually living in a functional city
and state post a coronavirus outbreak
that has been brought under control by good leadership.
And if the rest of the country understood that
and understood how lost they are without that leadership,
and by the way, I'm not trying to like, you know,
high five Cuomo, he's done a lot of stuff, right?
He's done a lot of stuff wrong too.
But the point is that he listened to scientists,
we follow those instructions. The point is that the bar is on the floor.
The things that we had to get done for the science. There were a few check boxes that would
have been very painful for two weeks and then it would have been over. And Cuomo is not
my ideal leader at all. But all leader, even one who I think is incompetent, is better than
a complete lawless chaos from a cartoon character.
A. Leader.
I would rather George W. Look literally, and I fucking hate George W. Bush.
I would shit in his mouth.
I would rather he be the president if he was going to obey some basic stuff.
Then a complete cartoon character saying, oh, it'll just disappear.
It's gone.
It's over.
We conquered it.
Like, I had it, and I'm fine.
Like, that is so ridiculous that this is where we are,
because it's so easy and in front of us.
And New York was able to get it under control
because like, we did the bare minimum.
Like, everyone acts like,
like in even Cuomo wrote a book where he's like,
how I did COVID.
It's like you told people to wear masks
and you shut down schools.
That wasn't like rocket science.
I don't need to read a book about it.
But the point is,
but the point is in April,
we were having a thousand deaths a day, okay, for real.
A thousand people a day were dying.
And now the deaths are single, maybe low, double digits.
People are still dying from this, okay?
Absolutely.
But it's like a rounding error percentage compared to where we were.
And in terms of, now, it is taking up a little bit
because you've got these like,
Trump people in Brooklyn who are like,
we don't wanna wear masks.
I mean, you've got, there's a whole community of people
who support Trump and don't wanna wear masks
and wanna have big gatherings.
That's driven up the numbers for everybody
because what it does require
and what Trump doesn't get
and what other people in this country or at
least other leaders in this country don't seem to get is that like, you know, it's funny.
We talk about, there's all this hatred for socialism in America.
They talk about socialism.
What it, what you can actually get this thing under control and get it basically beat here,
but it requires a type of socialist endeavor, a socialistic endeavor that we, for some
reason, leadership in this country, Republican leadership, obviously more than, far more
than any Democrat leadership refuses to accept, which is everybody is a part of this.
No one is on their own.
No one is free from it. But that is political.
But that's what that guy called the first person.
It's crazy because that was literally
E. Pluribus, oh no.
Like, we're supposed to be there for each other
and deal with these things.
Exactly. And they've politicized.
That's just killed that.
They've politicized this thing.
They've politicized this idea about freedom
and personal freedom
and all this bullshit.
And it's like, no, like, you don't have freedom to kill the people around you.
That's not personal freedom.
That's the, that's the absence of personal responsibility is what it is.
It's the absence of responsibility for your community.
It's the absence of what makes America America, which is a group of people coming together
to decide on making a better nation based on better ideals about how nations should be run.
And I love America.
I was thinking, I mean, frankly, I was looking at countries that I would think about moving
to if Donald Trump, and I'm pretty serious about this.
I know people said this around during Bush, but I don't want to raise my daughter in this
country if Donald Trump continues to be president.
The things that he thinks and says about women, the way that women are treated in this country
under Republican rule, I do not want to raise a little girl in this country in that, if
he continues.
And I think it says something about a dark thing about this country and about who the
people are that are in control of it.
So I really, really, you know, when I say like, I've been looking at houses in other countries and looking at how you moved
to other countries, I really do mean it.
But it's depressing, you know, because I love America.
And I was like, we know Canada's kind of like,
it's like America, but like, you know,
it's a little different.
And it's like, you know, it actually is a bummer
to think about not being an American,
to think about not living in America.
Because I love this country and I love the people in it.
And I love how fucking weird and diverse it is.
I love the fact that you go to fucking Texas
as a bunch of people in cowboy hats
and you go to fucking California,
there's a bunch of people, you know,
I don't know, with Tideye on,
I would ever the fucking cliche.
About their big California is,
they smell like huge surfies,
they smell like patchouli.
Yeah.
Well, that's Southern California.
I was thinking more Northern California.
Patchouli and Tideye, man. No, but you know, it's fucking,. I was thinking more Northern California. But truly, and Tied Eye, man.
No, but you know, it's fucking,
like this a great country, America rules, except,
it's been driven apart by this dumb shit
that isn't even real.
With that, I don't think I don't even think,
it's not even like we have an education crisis,
we have a moral crisis, we have a lot of things
that have led us to here, but that is still
less than 40% of this country is in the
I know and we all have to be in it by the way in it with them and those 40 and those 40% less than are just
But less than whatever they're still just following like leadership, which is what people do
They're like okay, like give me some tell me some and the yes
There's family stuff and yesterday's history and all this shit
But like Donald Trump didn't have to be as bad as he is.
Like Donald Trump could have listened.
Donald Trump was talking about shit that Republicans four years earlier would have hated
to hear and they were like hell yeah, he was like LGBTQ, we're all in on those guys.
It's like they didn't want to hear that four years ago when Mitt Romney was running.
You know, Mitt Romney like can't even be in the same room with a gay person and it's like
so like they don't actually care that much
as long as their leadership represents them in some way, right?
Like, if Donald Trump had been like,
we're gonna expand Obamacare, the Republicans,
the only Republicans who would have bulked at that
are the leadership who get fucking paid
by insurance companies.
It's without the people, you know, the people who got Obamacare
don't wanna take it away now.
Republicans and Democrats alike,
people who didn't have insurance
and now can go to the doctor,
aren't like, yeah, I don't want that.
Only the dumbest of the dumb.
Most of them are like, I don't want that taken away.
You know, there's a reason why this fucking,
you know, this potential Supreme Court fight,
why it's such a topic amongst
people because the Republicans know they don't want to tell their constituents, they want
to lie to them, they know that if they tell them that they're going to take away their
coverage, that they will get fucking crushed, so they just lie about it. The point is Donald
Trump could have had a massive win on his hands. He could have been the guy who actually beat back
coronavirus in this country.
He could have been the guy who was like,
we're gonna get, we're gonna follow the science,
we're gonna get our masks on,
we're gonna mandate this shit about how we do schools,
how we do reopening, so we're gonna come up with a big plan.
He could have said to every fucking governor,
Republican or Democrat alike,
we gotta follow the science,
gotta listen to these guys, and we could have said that every fucking governor republican a democrat alike we gotta follow the science goddard listen to these guys
and we could have had a huge he could have been like that king of
to killing corona virus in america
he chose instead
in his p-not-fucking-brain
to make mask wearing and following
regulations and lockdowns
a political issue
you know and it's a it's insane to me.
There's no, the only thing that's served
is to divide the country,
to divide his followers from people who aren't his followers,
and to just create a mechanism
by which you can talk about what one side does
and the other side doesn't.
It prolonged this virus, it prolonged the amount, it increased the amount of deaths.
It made it, made it sure that we would have second and third waves of it.
And now it's like, they just were like, whatever, who cares?
Now they're talking about her demeanor.
It's like, it's such a failure leadership.
Don't you think what happened is that Trump is used to living in his own and,
what happened is that Trump is used to living in his own, and their personality types are different in some ways,
but similar in others.
Reality distortion field, Steve Jobs-style,
he's used to living in this denial projection
con artist thing.
And so his first instinct is gonna be that.
But on top of that, people told him,
you can't say anything to the American people
about how bad this is gonna be
because we'll have a panic. So it's better for the economy and it's better for planning, like,
our response if people don't take this that seriously just yet because we don't want people
panicking and running around like chickens with their head cut off. So he heard that, internalized it,
it also feeds into his like, bassist instincts, and then just went full denial.
And then anything that was like, like masks are a visual thing that there's a pandemic happening.
And he was like, can't have that, because people will get spooked.
So now I'm anti-mask.
And it just, I feel like all the dominoes fell in that way.
And he ended up, back to the corner, based on his choices, yes, but also because he functionally is not able
to lead the world's largest superpower.
Like someone whose initial response to things
is denial, obviscation,
like you that you can't lead one of the largest countries
in the world because like people are not gonna be,
like you're not gonna get 300 million people
to not know anything about science in a country with free speech
Like it's gonna come out like there's gonna be chaos and fighting
He's functionally unable to do the job as a leader because his instincts and ideas are bad and all it took was one
Instance where there was something hanging in the balance for everything to go to shit
And I don't understand what people don't see about that. People are like, oh, it could have happened to anybody.
It's like, yes, this could have happened to anybody.
Obama had to deal with H1N1.
Obama had to deal with the economy collapsing.
But the way that we understand who a leader is
is when they are faced with issues like that
and their instincts lead to whatever result.
You look at what Bush did with 9-11 or Katrina
and you know who he is and what he is able to
and not able to do.
The same thing is true with Obama and Trump.
And if you don't see a pattern where Republican ideas
are not able to govern a country of this size,
of this who faces such large issues.
And so I don't understand how people can look at Reagan
and what happened with AIDS
or what happened with the Iran Contras
and then look at 9-11 and Katrina and then look at what happened with AIDS, or what happened with the Iran Contras, and then look at 9-11 and Katrina, and then look at, um, fucking, uh, what happened in Puerto Rico and COVID, and I'd be like, okay, this party's ideas aren't good at scale.
And so we just can't have them anymore. Like, I don't, we don't, uh, I'm not a big Joe Biden fan, but those ideas, the ideas of that party and of his like centerist moderate wing of the left. Those
ideas were have worked at scale better than anything. Like we're not in a disaster when
that you don't even mean like the Clinton years were not a giant rolling disaster. They
were pretty good. And I just don't understand how people look at that and they're like, but
I don't want that to be true. Like, like they want Reagan. They just want, they want the idea of, like,
greed is good. Your basis instincts are good. And you're like, you're, in fact, like, a patriotic,
great religious figure, if you're selfish and self-involved. And like, I don't, I don't know.
I guess I'm rambling, but I'm wondering, like, definitely, but totally rambling. But I think, like,
I guess all of what I'm trying to say is at the end of the Trump administration
When we take stock of what this was and what these four years were like, I don't want us to just jump into Biden fixing it and be like never again
Like we need to actually as a country sit down and do some reflection that we didn't do after Reagan and we didn't do after Bush.
We need to sit down and really reflect
on what got us where we were
and what happened with COVID
and what instincts and ideas and philosophies
and I guess even just like what's the word,
a principles, what principles would be prioritized?
What's that word?
Yeah. But like the things that we prioritize,
what we don't wanna do anymore,
or what didn't work.
And I think I'm saying this to even
the conservative Republican part of this country,
I am not a Lincoln project president,
but I am begging you to reflect on what you have done
and what you want to do.
Because I need you to look at the cause and effect.
Like, I don't, that's the thing that drives me out
with talking to my parents or other family members
who I disagree with politically is.
It's like, but just look at the results of the ideas.
Whether or not you can understand how they're working
or why they're appealing or not appealing,
like, can you just look at the results
and can we just have a basic mindset of like,
if you get burned, let's not play with fire again.
Look, I mean, I think, God, if Trump leaves office,
if there is done another four years of this monster,
we have to like, we gotta like tackle America as a whole.
Like, we gotta be like, what is this country gonna be now? How are we gonna do this because it cannot be like?
I mean, I don't know why people care so much about what how other people like
Like I don't care at all how other what other people do for the most part like I don't care if they're gay or straight
I don't care if they're black or why like I just don't care like it's not even like
I'm not even thinking about it
because it's just like not important to me.
I don't know why a lot of this stuff
is so important to other people.
We need to address that.
Obviously, we need to address systemic racism.
We need to address like,
people it's so important to them
that other people are black.
It's like people,
no, no, no, no, no,
stop thinking about it.
They're like, there are black people.
Like I need to climb down and like,
we need to do some cognitive behavioral therapy or something. We need to get about it. They're like, there are black people. I need to climb down and like, we need to do some cognitive behavioral therapy or something. We need to get, like, yeah,
we need to get to a place where it's like, we can like, work out whatever this feeling
is in you that you need to give a fuck, you know, but also institutionally, we need to
work out like why we keep allowing, you know, I mean, obviously, police violence is a big
one.
I just wanna say, the police kill all kinds of people,
by the way, not just black people,
they do disproportionately kill black people.
And that's a systemic racism at play.
But the police are also out of fucking control,
just full stop, full fucking stop.
There are tons of them that are infucking league
with these like right wing fucking hate groups.
They are they condoned violence from from from a certain groups while while demonizing violence from others.
They they killed people on a regular basis for no reason.
And they obviously disproportionately target and execute black people in America.
That's seriously fucking bad. Like we need to do something about it but like policing as a whole is like built on the legacy of
slavery it's built on like it's literally built on racism in many ways you
know the first police that's what you catch that needs to be addressed right
that needs to be addressed like like but but also I mean one thing that I am you
know I'm not that excited about Joe Biden except to one thing that I am, you know, I'm not that excited about Joe Biden, except to say this, that I am excited for there to be a president in this country.
And I think, honestly, to his detriment, this is true, but I do think it is something that
the country needs right now, to his detriment.
I think Joe Biden believes that like everybody from both sides can like get in the tent, you
know? And like everybody tent, you know?
And like everybody's, you know, it's like he's like wants to reach across the
aisle to the Republicans.
I the only thing I want to reach across the aisle to do is to kill the Republicans,
you know, ladies to throttle them in their fucking wooden seats that they sit at in the
Senate or whatever.
But like Joe Biden's like, we got to work together and it's like, listen, I actually
hate the idea.
But at this moment, I do think we need the one thing
that I have a little bit of hope out as a Joe Biden will.
I think legitimately try to like,
hopefully he's got help from people who aren't just Joe Biden,
try to figure out like how we can actually run a country
where there are differing opinions that where it doesn't rise
to like people running people over in the streets with cars.
You know, like, like, they're, like, we should have,
like, is there a good Republican?
Like, I wanna know because here's the thing.
Like, there's a lot of stuff that Republicans may be interested
in that they want that I disagree with,
but they aren't actually things that I get that mad about.
You know, like, you wanna have a big debate
about how we tax people.
Like, I, I think that's a, that's,
you may have different opinions, you may have different schools of economic thought. Like I think that's a, you may have different opinions,
you may have different schools of economic thought.
Have that fucking debate, but don't have the debate
about whether trans people are humans.
That's not a fucking debate that I think is very important
to have in this country if you think they aren't.
It's like there's one opinion that's right
and there's one opinion that isn't, period.
Trans people can't serve in the military.
Why? I don't know, I just don't like it. Well, you don't get to have that fucking opinion
You know, they said the same shit about women. It's like give me a fucking break. It's like it's like you know
Abortion I understand there are definitely arguments right there are people who believe that abortion is murder
They're wrong. They believe it. There are people who believe that it's necessary,
they're right, the reality is like,
we have a law in the fucking books,
we need to, people need to get in,
like they need to get in line, you know?
I can't go back to the days where abortion doctors
are being killed with the fucking clinics,
like that's where we're headed,
we're like retrograde right now.
I think though, what we need to do to do that is,
I'm not for like reaching across the aisle
or fucking being like Republicans,
come on into the party with your own agendas.
I think what we need to do,
or what I've found at least minimal,
at least halfway success at doing,
is finding things that we can agree on,
and not in the idea of like,
well, we both agree that we won't water.
Like, I think that we need to say like, obviously information is a problem
because the conservatives call things fake news and the progressives say
that conservatives believe in nonsense conspiracy theories.
And I think that whether whoever's right, which we all know who's right there,
but I think we can all agree that information in the age of the internet is dicey and
confusing.
And so how can we tackle that together?
What if we as a group invest more in education?
I understand it's going to be frustrating because you don't want your taxes to go up.
But what if we took a tiny, tiny, tiny slice of this one military budget and we made sure
that teachers had the right resources
so that people know how to do critical thinking.
I feel like that is somewhere where we could build
and solve a problem and both people will feel motivated
and feel like it's about them.
Do you know what I mean?
We don't even have to,
we don't have to raise people's taxes.
That's what I'm saying.
We just, we don't have to.
We just need to raise, we need to raise billionaires taxes.
We need to raise corporate taxes. Give me a fucking break. We are we are the we need to cut military spending
I mean, that's all that that's why I know I know I'll just say like you want to make sure the military gets more money
That's no problem actually
We need to raise taxes on other people like not the middle class
not poor people like
Not the middle class, not poor people, like fucking billionaires and multi-billion dollar corporations. I mean, you've got corporations that pay no, Amazon paid no taxes in America.
But last year.
But what I mean is, and I think everyone who's listening agrees with that.
But what I mean is that like, Tony agrees.
I think people who are on welfare don't want to be on welfare. People who hate people who are on welfare. No, they love it
They love it. They love just lay like to lounge around. You know how it is
But but if people just chill out people who hate the idea of welfare or helping out the poor
Also don't want them on welfare. Totally. So we can all agree
We don't want people on welfare. How do we get there? We're just we're disagreeing about how we get there
You think we should just rip it away from people.
They'll starve or they'll work and then it's over.
I think that that's unrealistic because a lot of people have issues and those issues,
sometimes are society-sized issues that keep them from succeeding.
So we need to have a middle ground.
What if we found a program, some kind of jobs program, where we made sure things that
we needed to get done
were getting done, and we made sure those people were paid, and then nobody has to be on welfare.
And you can get what you want, Republicans, welfare is over, but we need some kind of way,
someone has to step in at some point, and make sure that there are jobs to be had,
so that people don't have to go to welfare. That's the kind of like consensus building that I'm
willing to do, and that has to start on like a local level, it has to start in conversations with people.
We can't expect Joe Biden to just make this case and all of America to sign up.
We're not there anymore.
That's not what's gonna happen.
So like, I know, I agree.
I think we need to start at a local level and just start engaging with people in that capacity
because at the moment, it's like everything is labeled before we even
start talking and I'm certainly not someone who thinks that like, kumbaya will all come
together.
But I do think that when we start the conversation saying, left the left likes education
and the right doesn't.
It's like, well then we're never going to get anywhere when I educate, like I don't know
what to tell you then because like then we're gonna default to nothing,
or like to way less than we need.
So I don't think that's productive,
and I certainly don't think that the right
wants to be labeled as anti-education.
So let's identify a problem.
They don't wanna be labeled as anti-education,
but they don't really want to invest in education.
Sure.
I mean, just generally speaking.
But I mean their constituents,
I mean moms and dads in this country
don't wanna be like, I hate school. dads in this country don't want to be like
I hate school.
That's not what they're trying to say.
What they end up doing is these back flips where they're like I hate public schools and
what we need is a voucher system.
Like we need to cut through that and be like let's prioritize education and what is the
most efficient and cheapest way to get the best results.
Let's find that together and then just do it.
Like we don't have to, this doesn't have to be like I just feel like
everything comes down to being like do you love Godzilla or do you hate Godzilla? It's like there's
no fucking Godzilla. Stop. Like there's no I mean yeah I mean I'm indifferent on Godzilla honestly
you know take me now Godzilla is what I feel just fucking kill me. Well in any event.
Yeah we should do you want to talk about some tech stuff?
Talk about something else.
Let's just talk about some other things that aren't Trump.
God, I'm sorry though, listen, Tony,
it's very possible that after this week,
this could be, this could return to like a technology
and culture podcast, not about Donald Trump.
What if we had a,
I should, like an interview with like Johnny I,
or something.
Next week is Johnny Ives we can get
Trump out of office that's my guarantee and promise to you if I can't get
actual Johnny Ives I'll find a British person who has a very similar accent
who owns a black t-shirt and I will feed them answers I will feed the answers
yeah anyhow all right what do you want to talk about what else what else is
there so did you see that cyberpunk 2077 is being
Oh, don't even get me started on cyberpunk 2077 folks. I watched a trailer
in
January of 2013
For cyberpunk 2077, okay, I was alone in the nude
Watching a trailer. I don't know. I don't think I was in the nude. I was probably not alone either. I was probably in an office actually in the
point is in 2013 CD project Rob was like it's folks. It's coming cyberpunk 2077 the most awesome cyberpunk video game of all time. I was like I'm
make space on your shelf. Yeah, you gotta make some space on that shelf. And now listen, and they're defense,
and they're defense, they're like,
coming when it's ready.
I'm like fair enough, games take time.
You know, this could be a few years down the road.
It could be seven years from now.
It could be seven years down the road.
That's the one that's not a good move.
No, come forever, we get it.
Yeah, dude.
Like, they might just cancel it, okay?
They might, You don't know
Cyberpunk 2077 was like delayed and then delayed and then delayed and then it was like,
okay, it's coming out November 19th. You're going to get your new console right at the beginning
of November. When's it? When's the Xbox coming out? Well, I mean, the first announced launch
was way back like in the not forget it. Okay, just let's just be clear. Okay. They pushed
it back a lot. But then they were like, boom, it's happening okay, just let's just be clear okay, they pushed it back a lot But then they were like boom. It's happening this year
November 19th at it's we fucking we're we're actually people are dying at the CD project red factory the game factory
Where they make the games because we're pushing them so hard to finish this game at time
I'm like yes kill those developers put their body into a meat grinder, and then turn that
meat into food to serve to the other developers so you can get Cyberpunk 2077 done in time.
And then, but then they were like, so then, so I'm like, okay, I get it.
The new concerts are going to come out on like November, when the playstation is like November
12th, I think the Xbox is November 10th. I want to say,
because they just gotta be, they just gotta be different. Um, and then you're, you know, a couple days later, you're gonna fucking get cyberpunk and it's gonna be like, oh shit, this is what I
signed up for. This is it. So now they're like, sorry, you know, we know we said for real this time.
You know, we've been like, so in like greening all of the dead developers, it's still not enough.
We're pushing it back till December
But I gotta tell you and listen I get it. I understand
Games are hard to make big games like this are really really hard to make and you can't I'm not like well
I'm a game developer. Let me tell you how it should have gone. I don't fucking know. You know, they went through a lot of shit
Okay, I'm just saying like I don't know how much longer I can wait saying, I don't know how much longer I can wait.
I don't know how much longer I can take it.
I mean, 2013, you know what, in 2013,
I first of, I didn't have a child, okay?
I had no child.
There was nobody was,
fucking, there was no,
you didn't hear anything about Trump, You know, there was no Trump.
Who was president in 2013, Obama?
Obama had just gotten reelected.
You know, it was good time.
You know the financial crisis was over.
You know, the whole of that.
The whole of that.
The airing on HBO.
Girls was on HBO.
People were like, this Lena Dunham's a genius.
She'll definitely never say anything offensive about anybody and
You know, it was like a great time, okay?
20 Perry you get a great year
It seemed like the whole world was ahead of us. No, I mean, I you know, it's like I
You know, I have a grown-ass child down a six year old, okay? In the time that it's taken I have a human being who can fucking read and
Okay, in the time that it's taken I have a human being who can fucking read and
Perform musicals and as you know doing some woodworking with me and what his CD project red given us nothing
Why not just release a little 10 minute demo or something give us a little something you know Give us a little taste. They're like here's 35 minutes of gameplay. It's like cool
Can I get like one minute of the game? I wonder how many times they've re-released the Witcher 3 in the time it took them to announce
and then release Cyberpunk 2077?
I mean, there's, cyberpunk 2077, there's no way it can be good now.
I mean, it's going to be the greatest, even if it's the best game ever made, it's going
to be the biggest disappointment we've ever experienced.
There's no way it could possibly live up to how everybody's feeling.
We read a story actually today or yesterday
about how the developers are getting death threats
over this game.
Yeah, pretend, don't, like you gotta be, don't you get this.
The thing I want to point out though, yeah,
is that the developers are getting death threats,
but it's because they're taking a long time
with the game, but I guarantee you
that those people have been crunching
like you would not fucking believe.
I bet you they are sleeping under their desks,
shitting themselves like these people are glued
to these ground up and a meek rider turned into
and disobeyed the developer.
You don't know if you death threat them,
their company is already doing that.
Their company is literally killing them, okay?
You just like they'll get, they're gonna get there, do.
But here's the thing, no, yeah, don't do any death threats
but yeah, I just think, listen, I don't know,
it's been a long time, man, I don't know
what to expect anymore, you know, I'm nervous,
I'm worried, I'm scared, I'm elated,
I'm feeling all the range of emotions, I don't know.
Like, I honestly, I'll tell you something.
One thing that was going on for me with this election stuff
was like, I was like, well, the election
this could be really bad.
I was like, but you know what,
Tyra Punk is going to come out like pretty shortly
after the election.
And so like, at least no matter how bad it is,
I can spend my time focused on like playing a video game.
It's not part of actual reality.
Now, what do I gotta do?
I'm going to start, I gotta go back to red dead redemption or something?
You know
He'd be come on I got to play Hades
I'm not playing Hades. I'm playing top-down games. I'm not playing top-down games
I didn't think I would either now all I play is I'm not doing it. I probably put it
I'll probably put a hundred hours into Hades pretty soon
You're a very sick person you You know, I love it.
At any rate, at any rate, and at every rate. So yes, I wrote on 2777, huge disappointment, huge delay.
Everyone's mad.
And, you know, we don't know what's going to happen now, just like the election,
anything can happen.
Anything is possible.
And, you know, it's very troubling and trying.
And that's how I feel.
Speaking of anything as possible and walking on water and raining cats and dogs and this
guy being green.
Okay, these are all just plaid, these are all just cliches.
We're living in, well we're living in an alternate reality where all of that is true because
Apple is developing a search engine to compete with Google.
Right on the heels of Google's antitrust legislation, right on the heels of Google having to go
to before congressional hearing to discuss section 230, Google's horrible year continues with
their personal nightmare, which I truly believe Facebook brought to them them i think the only reason people are mad at google is because
they're mad at facebook and google's easier to punch
i agree and i think well
conservatives actually like facebook exactly that's the problem uh... but
i think
uh... this is the weirdest thing yet is apple is developing its own search
engine it's very strange to me
not because i don't think that like
obviously a tech company wants to compete
with another tech company, we've got Bing.
But Apple is the least information
and internet savvy tech company
that has ever existed at that scale.
I'm talking about like the Xerox days.
Apple does not understand the internet,
it does not understand data.
And so it's so much that they've started marketing
their complete inability to process your data
as a privacy feature.
That they want to be the people leading searches
very confusing, like, baby, get Siri in order,
go collect her before you start building search engines.
I agree, honestly, I'm sort of like confused in a way like
First off, why doesn't Apple just buy just buy duck duck go? Yes
Why don't they just buy duck duck go and then they could be all privacy obsessed?
They can say look we purchased this one and we're gonna keep it a nonprofit part of the company and it is a privacy
Obsessed alternative and stick it to Google.
It's a win-win for everybody but Google.
Right.
I just think it doesn't really make a lot of sense to me for them to try to home grow
it because they're really bad at this stuff.
I mean, they're really bad at the internet.
They have consistently failed at making pretty good internet products.
I mean, even their iCloud thing,
their iCloud interface is like a nightmare to use on a computer.
Like when I have to go to iCloud.com,
which by the way, if you have stuff on Apple News,
which we do, and you want to look at your app,
you have to go to their, you have to go to their bad,
whack, analytics dashboard,
which absolutely sucks assets for Apple.
And it's just like load slowly,
and it's like,
it's just really, really bad.
I mean, I can't, I mean Apple makes a lot of great stuff,
but they also make some things that suck.
We literally published our iPhone 12 review
and said it is a near-perfect phone.
But we are still living basically
in like mobile-me ping reality with Apple.
It's really, it's bad stuff.
Their internet stuff is just not great. And, um,
I mean, I'm going to show you're using pages in the cloud. I mean, I just want to be
hundreds and like Google Docs is a standard across industries and, and Apple's making paint. Like,
I just don't see Apple making a search engine that is good for anything but surfacing like the latest Trump news and your search panel or you know what I mean?
Like I could see them being like push notification McDonald's is releasing a vegetarian burger like that's the kind of thing that they the information that they know how to call it.
I can't imagine typing in like you know how to fix this specific kind of drain pipe and Apple being able to return
a result that isn't Siri being like, I Googled it.
Yeah, I mean, it's really difficult to imagine.
I mean, I actually like the idea of a search engine that's good, that competes with Google.
I love the idea of competition in the search space because I actually think Google has gotten really bad
for search.
Like, there's a lot of stuff that like Google does with search
that I find to be aggravating.
And so if somebody could like get it better,
that'd be fucking amazing.
And it's crazy.
You know, and do it.
And this duck duck go has a better feature set
of privacy stuff, but also being has some specific parts
of it that are way more efficient than Google, but also being has some specific parts of it that
are way more efficient than Google, but their overall product is so bad that it doesn't
matter.
So there is a world in which someone could pull the pieces together.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, like, it's hard to, I don't know what, I don't know what
good or bad search would look like on these other services.
Let me just do a quick search for myself over here on Duck Duck Dell.
Let me see what I got.
I mean, let's see here. What is, here's my, people AI, let's see what my net worth is.
Joshua Tbilcki net worth 87 millions of dollars. Net worth score 87 percent. I don't know what that means. That's true. I'm worth $87 million. How did they know? It's incredible.
They have my height. Let's see if they got my height here. According to this I'm five seven
Josh five steps for the listener who may not know Tony is a very tall man
I'm worth eight. I'm worth $87 million and I'm five seven. Yeah, that's the job I know.
And I won't have people slandering him or changing that.
Thank you.
Hey, after this call can I borrow some of that $87 million?
I should articulate that that is not what Duck Duck Go itself is saying.
They just brought up a result that was like a website
that is like some kind of bot run.
I gotta tell you, I'm looking at Google's results
for me, they're much better.
I hate to say it.
They're much better.
Yeah, I don't think anyone thinks
that DuckDuckGo is a better search engine.
It just has better features and it's better,
it's more consumer friendly.
But I will say there are some areas in which
I got safe search, I got safe search on,
let me see what happens, I can give my only fans page on here
if I turn safe search off, I'm ducked.
Real weird only fans page, man.
My only fans is just be talking about whether or not
I'm 57 and how much money I'm worth.
Anyhow, whatever, it's don't Google yourself,
huge mistake in my opinion.
My life, look at this.
Oh, here's one that says my income and net worth
is 10 to $19,000.
Oh, shit.
I'm somewhere between, here's the thing.
I'm worth somewhere between $19,000 and 87 million, OK?
So you figure it out.
You do the math.
You figure it the fuck out.
What's my reputation score?
Hold on.
Remember cloud?
Remember cloud scores?
What is my reputation score?
It says, approximate reputation score,
2.71 to five out of five.
What, that, okay, I don't think I myself a thumbs up.
Nope, doesn't work.
Shit, so fucked up. I saw a commercial while I was watching CNN.
It was like, it was like a guy in a job interview and they're like,
they're like, we read things are looking, you know, you've seen really great for this job,
but we've been, we searched online and we found some troubling things.
And he's like, that stuff is false. And it's like, has this happened to you?
It's like, if it's happened to you, I bet there's a reason.
I bet there's a reason that it's happened to you.
And it's not just an accident that people are like,
don't hire this guy.
Are you, you need one of the services
that searches for your name on the dark web?
That's it.
Mom all over the dark web,
because that's how I sell my accessing.
That's a well-known fact.
And anyway, what were we talking about?
I'm sure there was a topic here.
I'm sure.
We were talking about Apple Search Engine,
but we can move on.
Oh, yeah, Apple Search Engine.
I think it's gonna be great.
Okay.
All right, should we do some nice things
and wrap this thing up?
Is that what we're calling them, nice things?
Nice things.
Can't remember.
It's been so long since I felt a nice thing, truly.
Anyhow, I'll go.
So, I am obsessed with, and I've been obsessed with
for like a year and a half at this point,
but I was currently in a full blown obsession
with Reena Sawa-yama, who is a Japanese British pop star,
who has come to the US a bit.
She is amazing. Her album is so
good and so great. She is a song out now called XS which I have been praising to
anyone who would listen for a very long time and it's finally starting to like
break through a little bit. It sounds so early 2000s pop but also there's
just like an Alannis Morse that vibe that comes through. It's like if
Britney Spears met Alannis Morse that met like like like
like metal like metal music. It's so good. She mixes like
screamo with like Bob Dylan style with like it's just
weird. She's so good. She's very original. She's around my
age which is always rarry to see someone break through, especially in pop music
around your own age.
At this age, once you're over the age of 24,
it's very odd to see someone break through in that way.
And she performed on Jimmy Fallon this week.
And a friend of mine works there and was like,
you need to be ready.
And I was like, OK okay and it was so good.
What's the album? What's the album called? It's called Sawa Yama. Okay. And it's
it's really good. Listen to XS first, it's my favorite track of hers, but all of
the other ones are great. But there was a live performance that was on Fallon
this week, which was her first televised performance ever. And it was so
weird and good. It was a mix of like like early 80s like Debbie Harry style
like
photography with a little bit of like Britney Spears Lady Gaga tiny bit of choreography all live vocals some like
really great metal moments and she's just dressed at like Gwen Stefani in the early 2000s
It's just it's so many good elements that I didn't know worked together.
And it's also totally original.
Like it does actually feel original,
not like she's just referencing references.
It's just, it's really good.
And I haven't felt excited about somebody
who I felt was naturally good at this kind of a job
in a long time.
Like, you know, like there's always like a Shawn Mendes
where you're like, yeah, you were built in a laboratory
to be a pop star, we get it.
But to see someone who's just like a star
from the inside out,
even if she didn't have perfect skin,
even if she wasn't beautiful what she is,
she's just really talented musician and a really compelling
person.
And so I'm just so down with it.
I think it's really cool.
I'm John, who I've been trying to get into her for a long time,
never really got into her.
And then this week, he was like, so it's been listening
to a lot of the Sawa Yama Alva.
And I'm like, yes, you fucking have it's like all happening so it's good also
I thought I think Adele on SNL was in general I'm not a big SNL person lately but I think
she's very funny and charming so there was oh I watched that episode she's very SNL
is that it's she's charming SNL's at its worst it's ever been
yes, yeah, I guess
Bowen Yang aside
Bowen Yang aside
it's having a very tough
Bowen Yang is great
but I feel like Bowen Yang is just Bowen Yang
in most sketches
which I like
like I like I like Bowen Yang
but it's very much like he's just like doing his thing
and then the rest of the stuff is happening around them
around him
so okay so interesting
I'm gonna listen to this,
this arena, Sawa Yama, is that,
is that how you pronounce it?
I'm probably mispronounced it.
So she's also British, which is,
of course, you know for me a big red flag, but.
Hopefully you can let's pass it.
English, sorry, is she British?
Wait, is she from English?
Yes, Japanese British.
Ooh, okay.
You know, I feel about the Brit.
I know you do.
Big fan of their work.
Love colonialism.
No, they're very good.
They're great.
Brexit all the way.
If you like, if you love Brexit,
if you like eating beans on toast,
you're gonna love the British.
I mean, honestly, beans on toast is pretty good.
Like, beans on anything really is good.
I mean, you know, people- It can miss me with beans on toast, but good like beans on anything really is good I mean, you know people who can miss me with beans don't get enough love
Laura's in this bean club you know about the being club. What's the bean club?
It's a it's a club where they send you beans
Apparently they have a waiting list of like 40,000 people. It's like very hard to get into the bean club now
And they send you it's like a guy who has like a bean farm
I guess and he sends like bean he sends like bespoke beans like farm to table beans huh I don't know
the bean club look it up I never been so big club but okay no really yeah I'm the
bean suck okay keep going it's they're no, that's not my nice thing.
So my nice thing, I actually have two nice things, okay.
One, my one nice thing is that it's Halloween,
we're in the Halloween corridor now, okay.
I mean, we've been, it's October, but it's the 29th,
you know, now Zelda can't trick or treat
because of COVID-19, that's one thing
that they're not doing at least around here.
Yeah, I think it makes sense.
Like going door to door, even if you're wearing a mask,
still like kind of like, I don't know.
I know, but it's tough.
It's not uncomfortable.
It's a tough thing for kids to hear no, too.
It's tough for her.
It's tough for her to hear, except she bounces back
like instantaneously.
So she did last week, she threw a Halloween theme surprise party
for me for my birthday, which obviously is a very small group
of people.
It's just us and her aunt
and uncle who have also been quarantined in the only people that we actually see. But it
was super fun and great and a wonderful birthday. And then we're going to have, she decided
we're going to have a Halloween party instead of trick or treating, which is great. And so,
you know, I just love, but she's like really into the spooky stuff and really into like
Halloween decor and Halloween costumes.
And I think that's terrific.
And I mean, Halloween is my favorite holiday.
And so it's wonderful to be able to share it with Zelda.
So that's one thing.
So I love, I just love this time of year.
It's just like my favorite.
It's just, you know, October is just such a great month.
And then the other nice thing is that this,
that at least, I know it's really, really stressful,
but this week is coming to a close,
and next week is upon us, and it's like, it's real.
Something's going to happen.
We may, I hope I think a really good chance
of getting out of this crazy rut that we've been in
with this fucking president,
and that's gonna happen in less than a week.
And that, and that to me,
when I allow myself to have even a tiny little glimmer
of what hope might look like,
I feel very excited that we could begin
the work of getting this country back on track.
You know, locally, federally, globally, like there's so much
work that has to be done to fix the shit that's been broken.
But I think that we can actually start that work soon.
And that's exciting.
So, you know, this week's almost over, it's almost time to vote.
Please go vote.
Please.
And don't vote for Donald Trump.
If you vote for Donald Trump, I honestly, if you're voting for Donald Trump and you
listed this podcast, there's something really, really wrong with you.
And I need you to seek help immediately.
Anyhow, that's it.
Those are my things.
Now we should get out of here.
All right.
Bye.
OK.
Bye. Well, that is our show for this week.
We'll be back next week post-election with more tomorrow.
And as always, I wish you and your family the
very best though I've just been told that your family looked themselves up on duck duck
go and the heights are all wrong.
you