Tomorrow - 215: A technology podcast

Episode Date: November 15, 2020

Welcome back to Tomorrow, a technology podcast hosted by Joshua Topolsky and Ryan Houlihan that is not at all about politics. This week we discuss Apple's new line of products, the Switch, the new Xbo...x, the PlayStation 5, and Amazon's plans to creepy crawl in your garage. Oh, and an old man lost a contest a couple weeks back. We didn't like him so that's still pretty cool. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Watch Polke. Today on the podcast, we discuss Eloise, the PS5, and Joy. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. All right, Ryan, we're back. We're better than ever. I'm feeling good, feeling fine. Best I've ever been. Simply the best.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Did you hear the news? No. Donald Trump lost the election, like 10 days ago, but still. I heard. I was gonna say we weren't gonna talk about politics at all. I think we should not go too deep in it, but it is a nice thing to keep in mind. It's, it's, yeah, he lost. He lost, I mean, bigly, very strong, very strong loss.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Excuse me, I have a cold, probably coronavirus, probably contracted from one of the 120 Secret Service Agents that have caught coronavirus because of Donald Trump. Like, I don't even think I've made that number up. I think it's the actual number. And no, I, the, the, uh, yeah. You know, he lost the election and, and I'll be honest, I've lost a little bit of respect for him.
Starting point is 00:01:32 You know, I, I say, I gotta say he's not been a, I wouldn't say he's been a gracious loser. I wouldn't say he's handled it well. I mean, I was like very worried. I mean, I'm very, I'm not worried anymore that we're in the middle of an active coup because these people are all idiots and nothing they're trying to do is working.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But listen, I've acted, I've behaved better after losing a game of Mario Kart than I have. Len, I've seen the president act in the last few days. Yeah, I mean, it's just, um, it's very embarrassing, uh, ugly stuff from the, from the president who, who, I mean, and again, I don't want to, I don't want to talk about politics. I'm so over politics. From now on, I'm just so checked out of politics. Um, you know, I just, I just want to highlight for the listener that I please do. Please, hi, Trump.
Starting point is 00:02:27 He lost like a dog, like a dog in the street. He lost like a dog like a loser, like a loser. Oh, look, you know my joke. Okay. Guys hosting a new show in NBC, the biggest loser. Uh, anyhow, uh, no, he, he lost badly. He got he got beat terribly. terribly. He's a huge loser. Landslide. Many people are saying this is the best election that the United States has ever seen.
Starting point is 00:02:53 A lot of people are saying some very, some of the smartest people, actually, these smartest people, are saying that Joe Biden got more votes for any president ever in the history of the country. All of the votes combined. He still got more. That is like a Trump. That's a Trump lie right there. It's like he didn't just get the more votes than any other president in an election. He got more votes if you added up all 45 previous presidents together, if you took all the votes
Starting point is 00:03:21 and pulled them, he got more votes. He said there was so many votes, they're not even going to do elections anymore. He'll just stay present because it was that many votes. It's a peaceful transition to just second term, okay? But here's the thing, the elections over, Donald Trump lost. He's going to leave the White House in about 69, 68 days. Nice. Nice, very nice.
Starting point is 00:03:42 68, a lot of people will know that sex move, the 68, which is actually more complicated. You wouldn't, you wouldn't expect it. You actually need to subscribe to Josh's only fans. Yeah, yeah. You get up my only fans doing a special discount this month, 1099 for 30-day trial. And you can learn how to do a 68. And I think you're going to really enjoy it. I think you are really going to love it. Anyhow, I'm, the way in the background while we're talking I'm shopping for an HDMI cable. What? Why would you need an HDMI cable? We're gonna get to that in a little bit. Don't you worry about it, but I mean I wouldn't buy
Starting point is 00:04:19 personally. There's a brand on Amazon called Ivanky which sounds too much like Ivanka for my taste. The Ivanky HDMI cable brand. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't love it either. At any rate, what were we talking about? Oh, yeah. So Donald Trump lost like a dog.
Starting point is 00:04:38 He's going to leave the White House. And I feel really good about it. I feel really happy about it. And I think that it's a good thing for America and for the world. And, you know, listen, I think if you're worried about Joe Biden, if you're a Republican, you're worried about Joe Biden, like, I don't know, you're very dumb, I guess,
Starting point is 00:04:58 as the only thing I could say, I don't really know how you could be worried. But, you know, I do wanna say on that point, you know, a lot of people are saying, you know, we got to really think about the Republicans who lost and how they're feeling right now and how bad they feel and really, you know, reach out to them and pour acid on them.
Starting point is 00:05:17 No, I'm kidding. Don't do that. Don't pour acid on anybody. But I will say, it is surprising how quickly the tone changed on the right people like hey, give us a chance to process this. Like, come on. This is really tough. It's like, I don't know, dude, you guys were calling for like, like you literally were
Starting point is 00:05:34 calling for beheadings of people in America just prior to the election results rolling in. And you've been systematically trying to destroy communities of people in this country. So it's really hard. Also, you're one of your main campaigns, Logan's was fuck your feelings. So it's very hard. As much as I wanna give you a big bear hug and say it's gonna be okay, buddy,
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm kind of like fuck off and die, you know? I will say luckily for them, and I think we talked about this last week, Joe Biden is going to be the most chill and nice to you guys. And honestly, I'm happy because the Democrats actually don't aren't trying to hurt you. They're trying to give you like healthcare. So the point is, I think you've got a president who's going to be, I think, to the, to a annoying degree for people on the left, very moderate and very chill. So anyhow, so that's the election, whatever. We're done with it. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I don't even want to talk. Who cares? Who gives a shit? We're, that's the guy. So why are you buying an HDMI cable? I want to talk about the future. And the future is next generation gaming. And I received my PlayStation 5, received my PlayStation 5 in the mail yesterday
Starting point is 00:06:48 after being on pins and needles waiting for a delivery. I gotta say, like, I don't know what's going on. I know it's been a crazy time for delivers. Obviously, we have a raging pandemic in this country. But I place this order in like September At Walmart because it was the only place I could find one where they still were selling them and and and normally I would not be purchasing from Walmart but And it has just been sitting it was sitting for until the day of delivery. I did not have tracking information and But what was weird is I started getting like a day or two before and I didn't even realize that I got these texts from FedEx and they're like you're you're your shipment is on its way and I'm like what? It's like did I order like you know, I do I do order things sometimes like not really thinking and remembering them the next day
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm like, you know, did I I don't remember ordering this but it's definitely possible that I ordered something, you know Mm-hmm at any rate at any rate and at every rate so it did show up on the day they said it would show up and You know and I got to say at first I had a lot of problems I had a lot of problems with the onboarding, getting my stuff sort of, you know, you would think the handoff from PS4 to PS5 would be really seamless because you know that everybody who's buying a PS5 has a PS4. I mean, I know one's at least at first.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Nobody, no, no early adopters, like my first console, the PlayStation 5, day one, I don't believe anybody's like here it is my first, you know, console ever the fifth generation of the PlayStation. Of course younger people I guess sure, like maybe more eventually, but not day one. Maybe they want right people, the people who wait up to like midnight
Starting point is 00:08:38 to hit Walmart or whatever. We're not the people who, so you would think they'd have it down like iPhone level and I don't, it's not, listen, I will say it was more, it's easier to switch from Android to iPhone than it is from the PS4. I have, I am now about to do it from my third time to try to get it right. In fairness to Sony who deserves all of my fairness. My experiences actually been not too bad though. I did have this initial setup experience where I did went through all the steps. I like, do you want to transfer stuff in your PS4? I'm like, yes, definitely. They're like over wireless or connected with
Starting point is 00:09:15 a wire. I'm like, let's do wireless because they were kind of far apart. And then it went through it. It went through the whole thing. And then I'm like, oh, it booted up rebooted, rebooted back up. I'm like, oh, yeah, fuck this rules Like I'm here. I am ready to start gaming and it was like nothing was working like I couldn't do anything like I could move Around on the on the on the menus of the ps5, but nothing would do anything like couldn't go into the PlayStation store Couldn't load any of my games couldn't't access any content. Like it was just like this weird limbo where it was like, I'm in the interface for the PS5. Like it seems like I should be able to do things, but I can't.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I had and then I couldn't reboot it. Like I had to eventually got to a point where my controller froze. Like it froze, but it was still like playing the music and like the animations and stuff. And I was just sitting there like, okay, now this is just sitting here like as if it's doing something, but I don't know because it just looks like it's not frozen, but it's not actually functioning. So I had to literally yank the power cable out of it to get it to turn off. None of the buttons were doing anything like on the machine itself. The buttons would not reset it would not like rest it or whatever. I'm like, okay, well, it's not indicating to me that anything is happening. The controller no longer is doing anything.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And like, I, you know, it was like 11 o'clock at night. I'm like, I can't just sit here endlessly and wait for something to happen. So I had to pull the power cord out of the back, which I think if anybody who has any experience with electronics knows is like potentially one of the worst things you can do. You know, and but you know, I played it back in and rebooted and then everything was there. And it was like, oh, yeah, you got to hook up your external hard drive from your old system to play your games. And I was like, oh, yeah, okay, right.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I hadn't done that because I was waiting. I thought it was going to transfer, like, I thought it was gonna transfer, like I thought it was gonna dump some of that stuff onto the hard drive, onto the internal hard drive. But anyhow, you know, it did work, but I will say it was very, it was a very stressful, like 45 minute experience of going like, and did I just destroy this brand new console that I got? I'm on my third attempt as of this weekend.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I will. What's going on? I did it once and I got the same issue where it just wasn't responding. So then I was like, uh, and I unplugged it. And then I did it again. And I got all these errors where it would try to download every game that I already owned.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And then it would tell me that it was an unknown title and all the information about the game would disappear and then it would tell me it couldn't download and there was an error and I was like, okay, and I was like in the middle of playing games and it kept popping up and I was like, okay, what? So then I googled it and was like, all right, this is not obviously just like a bug. This is like a real problem and it is a real problem and the only solution they have is like, wipe the console, start it as a completely new console. Download your trophy and save game information and then just read download each individual title, even PS4 titles that you have on a hard drive.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Start from the beginning and download, essentially gonna be like six terabytes of games. And I'm just like, and you know what? Not to be a huge fanboy or trying to fan, flame wars or anything. I truly, I am a Sega fan. So I'm on no. Truly you've lost. However, big time. I've already lost.
Starting point is 00:12:34 However, my Xbox, I signed in my name plugged in the hard drive. And then that was that. It just all works. Like it was done. I was playing games within minutes. It was. Yeah, I mean, this was done. I was playing games within minutes. It was a bit... Yeah, I mean, I was thinking about that because you talked about it and you've written a little about it. And I think...
Starting point is 00:12:54 I was thinking about that the whole time. This seems like it should be easier. It seems like it should... I mean, I signed into the Series S, played some games, got the Series X, signed into the Series X, played some games, got the series X, signed into the series X, played some games, turned it off, went over to the series S, wiped it in two seconds, and that was that. And then I went to my one X, wiped the one X, and then I was like, all right, now we're good. Now I know what's console I'm playing with, done. I have had so much more running around with the PS5.
Starting point is 00:13:20 That said, when I was playing Astros Playroom or Spider-Man last night, despite all the error messages, I was like, I just got to play this thing. I don't fucking care. PS5 controller, I mean, sick as shit. I'm obsessed with it. It's so good. Good. It's the Astros Playroom experience with the. I have any. I have an even. So it's basically like they, you know how like Wii Sports was a tech demo for the Wii But it also ended up being like a pretty fun game to play with friends
Starting point is 00:13:53 Astros play room is like a platformer that's a tech demo, but in fact I mean it is a sequel to the VR game Astro bot rescue mission, which was a full game, not like a tech demo. And that was an amazing game. So this is the same thing, but instead of for VR, they do it with like the dual sense and a couple other PS5 features. And it is so fun and delightful. And it uses the controller so well. And it really sold me on the idea of the dual sense. Because at first, I was like, okay, you have to adapt to whatever. Nobody's gonna, no multi-plat games are really using those features. I seriously doubt. because at first I was like, okay, you have to adapt to it whenever I'm like, nobody's gonna, no multi-plat games are really using those features. I seriously doubt.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And then when I was playing Asher's playroom, I was like, I hope every single developer does this. And if they don't, I'm gonna say, why didn't you? Because it feels, and it's fun. Like when it's raining in the game, you can feel like the console feels like it's being hit with the rain. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Well, I think the haptic stuff is interesting. I mean, I played the new Spider-Man, the Miles Morales Spider-Man, and which is I got to say, just really, really a beautiful game, and like definitely feels next generation. I mean, more than, I mean, I got to say, I've been playing PC games with an RTX card for, you know, a year or whatever. And I've had some pretty good experiences, but I wouldn't say, excuse me, again, I'm dying of COVID. I have a cold, by the way. Have we talked about that? I'm just bringing it up. My brain is fried. I wouldn't say I've played anything,
Starting point is 00:15:27 I'm trying to think if I've played anything like, yeah, like playing control with ray tracing on my PC, it was pretty like, wow, this is pretty next-gen, but I played control on my PS4, and the leap from like the PS4 performance, which was not great to my computer with like a better graphics card and better performance. It was noticeable and meaningful and I was like, this is definitely an upgrade, but I wasn't like, you know, holy shit. This is just the differences, like I can't even believe these are the same game.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It was like, yeah, this is nice, you know, like, it definitely is better. And I'm like, glad that I bought this, you know, I'm glad that I built the PC. And I feel like I'm getting like kind of next gen level gaming right now. But it wasn't like holy shit. I thought playing Spider-Man last night, I was like, this feels really legitimately like a new class of game. And I was like, this is the first game for the console that's out where it's like, hey, look at us flexing what the console can do. So I was just thinking like in a year or two years,
Starting point is 00:16:32 what people are gonna be able to do with it. And also I was thinking like how kind of amazing it is that like the, what I consider to be the kind of flagship launch title for the PS 5. I know there are other games. I know there's like a, I guess there's an Assassin's Creed game maybe, which I think has gotten mediocre reviews. But like I thought it was pretty, it's pretty amazing. You think about like that, the kind of thing that shows off the power of the system in the game that a lot of people are playing on day one and on day, you know, 100 is this like, I don't know that much about the Miles Morales, like, Spider-Man backstory or the story at all.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And I was like, this is pretty crazy that like, I mean, for most of my life superheroes were like exclusively just white muscular guys, you know, there were a few white muscular women in there, not, you know, and then there was like storm from the X-Men. Like, you know, it was like, it's, it's, it's, it's, who by the way has gotten shades and shades later if it happens. And like, you know, obviously there are, I'm not saying there were not super heroes of color,
Starting point is 00:17:36 but they certainly were not at the forefront. And I'm like, this is like a major, major, major event in game. No, it's a big game. I mean, it's a viral. Well, yeah, like, major, major, major event in game. No, it's a big game. In gaming, it's a viral. Well, yeah, like, like, personal. But the whole story is like about like New York and like, just like, it's like, he lives in Harlem and it just feels like so different.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And it's like, this is the, this is a fucking major consumer electronics launch. Like one of the biggest things Sony's going to do. Maybe the biggest thing they're going to do is to get the tour electronics over the next decade. And, and this is the flag. But I mean like that. And the Avengers game stars,
Starting point is 00:18:07 like it has every single huge character that was in the movies. And they decided that it should star like a young woman of color. Like that's a big thing. Yeah, I think it's both of those games. Like not to be like, not to be like, you know, not to be like, oh, we're talking about games,
Starting point is 00:18:18 but let me get like, be woke for a second. But honestly, it was, I was just thinking about it, like what, how it would feel to me, because I was thinking a lot about how I felt on when I would get a new console when I was a kid and just the fucking feeling and the god day and I felt that way yesterday when I was taking this thing out and setting it up. I had that excitement of like I can't I can't I gotta say and it reminded me that some of my greatest moments in life were like when I really really wanted to get like a new console, you know, like the Dreamcast or whatever the fuck it was and you know the suit or the super NES before some of my greatest moments in life were like, when I really, really wanted to get a new console,
Starting point is 00:18:45 like the Dreamcast, wherever the fuck it was, and the Super NES before that. And I got it, and I got to finally fucking experience it. And I was just thinking how amazing and important, and I think shouldn't be overlooked as significant it is. And honestly, should be talked about more if it hasn't been talked about, that there are a lot of kids who on Christmas day,
Starting point is 00:19:06 who, kids who don't look like me, are gonna get this thing and they're gonna be able to fucking play this game. And it's like, it is such a different and more representative experience for so many people. And I was like, this is fucking cool. And by the way, not for nothing, the game is really super fun.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I only played for like maybe an hour and a half because by the time I got everything going, it was like very late at night. But like, but like the game is super, it's like a fucking super fun game to play and really beautiful. But like it's just great. It just, I was just like, this is so great.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Like I was like, this just is so, to me this is like what, and I know it seems dumb that I'm talking about this, you know, Spider-Man game and a PlayStation 5 and it's like it matters, but it does matter. And I think it really, like I'm thinking about it now, like I really took me back to when I was a kid and I thought, you know, it would be like, and I'm not saying this is in any way the same thing, but like, it would have been like, oh yeah, the launch title for the Dreamcast is a game
Starting point is 00:20:07 about like a Jewish guy. You know, like, it's like, oh yeah, it's set in like a Ukraine during like turn of the century. And he's, you know, it's like Trotsky fighting. I don't know whatever. It would be the kind of thing where it's like, oh, I could identify with this on a level that I know that other people that like,
Starting point is 00:20:23 that like popular culture very rarely represents, you know? It's just, it's you in the spotlight. It's fun whenever you're in the spotlight. And I mean, like, when I've gone to see musicals with my parents and we didn't really know what it was about going in and then it's about like, funny gay guy who wants to like make music. I'm like, oh, oh, you have to look at me.
Starting point is 00:20:42 You have to spend two hours hearing me sing. But, you know, but I think that, I guess, yeah, and it's also just like, I think it's, I mean, it's just generally good. Also, I was just thinking, yeah, how boring all these other stories I know are, like, I know Peter Parker's story end to end, you know? I don't know Miles' story that well.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And I was like, oh, this is interesting. I'm learning about this character and his dynamic with Peter Parker and like all this stuff and he has different powers than Spider-Man has. And like, you know, maybe it's like a bad on me to not have researched the character of Miles Morales and like really understand it.
Starting point is 00:21:16 But like, I was like, oh cool, I'm learning about a new superhero who has a completely different backstory and a completely different like life and other like problems and struggles and it's just like, you know, that's good. I'm tired of the superhero stories. I'm tired of hearing about Batman.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Batman is so fucking boring. Oh my God, he's like, my parents are dead. Now I'm going to use a billion dollars to beat a fucking boy. Well, I also just, we just watched the two leg-o-movies. We know. We just watched the two leg-o-movies with Zelda, which are like make up make fun of Batman a lot and It's like yeah, like this is very deserved like very it's fun like it's very like like lighthearted and well-meaning and like you know We're we're all buddies, but it definitely was like oh, yeah like um
Starting point is 00:21:59 Fuck you Batman I'm close I mean Yeah, you, Batman kind of blow. He just kind of blows. I mean, you know, he's just not. Well, I will say I have had a very fun time with the PS5. I think it's super cool, super fun. It's a blast. It definitely gave me that feeling of like when I unbox, like Xbox 360 or like I unboxed like the Dreamcast
Starting point is 00:22:17 or the PSP where I was like, it's new is a whole thing. Like I just want to play with the menus. Like it's fun, but it has also been in equal parts as justice frustrating in some ways. And whereas the Xbox, I mean, it was fun to unbox it, and I was excited to see the ray tracing and stuff, but the interface looks like the last one did, but because again, if it's not broke, don't fix it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Like, it works great. I love the Xbox interface. But because it isn't so different and like a lot of the games are like compatible over multiple systems between like the one X and the series X. It didn't feel like, oh my god, like this is crazy that I'm playing. That's like I felt a little bit more like this is a good game and I'm having fun. But like and it's definitely fast to shit. But I didn't feel that giant explosions in your chest feeling of like, whoa, this is so cool.
Starting point is 00:23:09 But it was nowhere near as frustrating. It's been effortless and seamless and clean and polished and to end. I haven't had any problems. Everything's been compatible. The Quick Resume feature we reported a little bit, it's not everything they promised it would be at launch. But, you know, so it's hard to say, like my little brother has been an Xbox fan his whole life and he called me and he was like,
Starting point is 00:23:33 should I get the X or the Series S or should I jump ship? And I was like, go for the S. Like, it is a really cheap, my he is a year of game, he'll get the S for 300 bucks. It's a really cheap way to play all the new games and get the equal experience to everybody else and Like 1440p upscaled to 4k is not that bad compared to I Challenge anyone to really do the difference thing more than five years. It really is it really is a a You really got to want to be looking for the differences to see them. I
Starting point is 00:24:02 Mean the S is a very affordable way to jump into the real next gen. It's not like a half step, it's not like a new 3DS, it's like a full on, it plays the games well. But he was like, what games have you been playing for? And I told him and he was like, oh, and I was like, well, there's not like a ton of new games out that are just for the series X yet. And so like, or the S, like it's hard for me to be like,
Starting point is 00:24:25 oh, go spend that $300. I can say if you're gonna buy a console and you wanna play like, you wanna upgrade, that that's the cheapest way to do it, the most affordable way to do it. But I can't say like, oh, well, you need it because you, without it, you can't play Spider-Man. And I get that that's also artificial.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Like I understand that like, that that obviously Microsoft is doing a favor to its existing customer base by making the games also accessible. But it's hard because you do get tricked, and there is like a fun thrill factor to being like, I couldn't do this before. This is exclusive, this is new.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Like there is a fun to that. So it's, I don't know, it's definitely a weird console launch too, right? Because like the game system, that's probably the most relevant. And probably has the best games, and the one I would recommend everyone go by, is the Switch, which is several years old.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So it's a very weird launch, because it's not like Xbox 360 versus PS3, and it was like, well, you know, you wanna get the hey, looking for this one, but there's this one over here. And what if you get the Wii 2, so you're gonna get the Wii in this, and you're not gonna to buy all three.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Like, it was like fun, I guess. Maybe I was also being younger, but like, I, it feels different this time. It really does feel like Microsoft is right when they've said multiple times in press interviews that the console war thing is over and that like you just buy what's right for you. And like, I don't know, it does kind of feel like
Starting point is 00:25:44 those are over. And if someone was to come to me and be like, what should I get? I'd say like, I don't know, it does kind of feel like those are over. And if someone was to come to me and be like, what should I get? I'd say like, do your hardcore gamer, then you already know which one you want. And if you're not, then go buy a switch because you don't need all of that. So it's a weird launch.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I mean, and it's an interesting time for them to launch it too, right, because this is the week that the iPad and the new iPhones are all out. And Apple announced a new laptop using Apple Silicon and so like there's just so much new stuff happening that if you were to like make decide on your one big Christmas purchase I mean like I would tell you if you already have a game console you like like you can give it a year really yeah I mean it's interesting Well, I mean there is that, I will say the leap from,
Starting point is 00:26:27 I mean, it's funny I played Far Cry last night on the PS5. My God. And I thought, oh, I'm gonna see, because I have a PS4, not a PS4 Pro, right? So I thought like, well, oh yeah, well, that's a bigger leap. Well, I was like playing it and I was like yeah, I don't know this doesn't look that much But and I have been playing in 1080 not 4k, right? I was like I wasn't like wow this is a big difference frame rates were like the same
Starting point is 00:26:57 Which seemed low to me and the graphics were not really that improved Like it wasn't it wasn't playing 60 FPS. I don't know if it was supposed to. It certainly didn't feel like it. You're not gonna squeeze out like on Xbox though. You got higher frame rate. See that? See that to me is like, I think that is,
Starting point is 00:27:15 I mean, that's actually like, I still play a lot of PS4 games. See, I was like, so is there no plan to, for those games, be upgraded graphically? I mean, there's like remastered versions, so like, play, play, play. Yeah, but that's different. I mean, you're saying, you're saying that if I had Far Cry, of what am I playing, Far Cry 5, if I had Far Cry 5 on my Xbox right now and I got the series X, the graphics would be better. See, I mean, that to me is actually like, I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. I'm gonna talk about the X-Box. here. Like between, I would say if something is cross is multi platform, I mean, it's hard to know with this new gen, but for me, with the 1x versus the PlayStation 4 pro last generation, if something was on multiple platforms, I preferred to play it on the 1x for some reason. I don't know. I just liked it more. So I have a good library of games to bring to the series X, but I don't know this time yet, because if developers really use the dual sense controller for all its worth,
Starting point is 00:28:25 I could see myself being like, I really like the DualSense controller. It adds to the immersiveness, it makes it more fun to play the game. I'm more delighted, so I will play it on this. But if they don't really make use of it, if it's just the occasional, like sort of like how HD Rumble
Starting point is 00:28:39 didn't really go anywhere on the Switch, like that ice cubes thing or whatever, no one uses it for anything. I mean, they even tuck it out of the switch light. I would say, if it doesn't end up getting used, I like playing on my Xbox. I like the controller stick layout a little more. You, you, for Microsoft games, you can buy them once and they're everywhere or they're just on Game Pass.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And like, I've had a better experience with the like upgrades, like backwards compatibility wise, I've had a better experience with the like upgrades, like backwards compatibility wise, I've had a better experience with Microsoft. So for me, I'd be like, mm, I'll just opt for the Xbox. It's hard to know just yet, but I would say if you have a really nice gaming PC, don't freak out about getting the Series X.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Like you have a really nice gaming PC, you'll be fine. You know, actually, I mean, that's sort of the thing is that I've been playing, I mean, because I have a PC, I feel less pressure to get the series X, but also like there are games like state of decay too, which I've been playing a bit, which has like Xbox, it has some connection to Xbox
Starting point is 00:29:41 and not entirely sure, but it's like you get like the trophies and stuff, but their Xbox related, you know? It's like taps into it. I don't know if that, and I don't know if there's, I wish there was more of that, honestly. I wish like, I don't know, I guess, can I, does Microsoft sell games on their like app store that do that automatically?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Maybe I'm just an idiot and I've been buying everything on Steam and I should be buying from like the Microsoft store and it would be like. I think Xbox Live is coming to steam. So if it's available, it will be everywhere. Okay, great. Well, at any rate, it doesn't really fucking matter because I don't care about trophies. And also, like, I don't do any type of team gaming. So it's like, I don't need, I think I don't care about trophies. And then I see the numbers. And I'm like, I
Starting point is 00:30:18 got to get those up. Well, actually, it's funny because on the PS5, it's like, well, your trophies aren't synced, like go to your PS4 and open your trophy screen. And it'll sync them to the cloud. I'm like, oh wow, I didn't sync my trophies And then it was syncing my trophies and I'm like, I don't know I've actually accomplished a lot, you know Actually, I've done quite a bit here When Zelda came out today and saw the ps5 I had to put the ps5 next to my TV because like I oh my well Well, it's huge. I mean it's ridiculously large I mean it is homicled it as I've been saying it demands to be perceived it really does look like a guy wearing like a weird Flamboyant white overcoat with the color flipped it's like kind of hard to unsee once you've seen it
Starting point is 00:30:59 It's extremely like you Gio. Yeah, I want to put like a head on it like just put a head with a face on it. Any face. Zelda came out this morning. I was like, she's like, what's that? I'm like, I got a new game scissors. She's like, it does, she's like, it looks fake. And I was like, I totally know what you mean. It does. It doesn't look real. It doesn't look like a real thing. And it's funny because the series asks, I thought, oh, this is very nice. This is very discrete. Then the series acts. I was like, it's a little bulky. I mean, maybe the PS5 won't be so bad because this is a little bulky. The PS5 showed up. I was like, you ugly motherfucker need to get out of my living room. I don't want to stare at you while I watch TV. It is so, and then the lights are changing. So it's like, please
Starting point is 00:31:37 look at me. And I'm like, I don't want to. You're asymmetrical and ugly. Like, I hate it. I hate it. I love the controller, but I think it is so poorly designed and so weird looking and there was so many ways, even if they had to use that architecture or that layout, there's so many ways to make it look better than like whatever fucking, it looks like, honestly, you know what, it looks like one of those concept buildings before they built one-world trade.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And one-world trade is the most artless building in all of New York, but it's at least inoffensive. Some of these, it looks like a concept design for a building. It's so bad. Yeah, it's really, it's like, it's just trying too hard. I mean, more, I understand like, I get it, you want it to be a conversation piece, but I really don't need my console to be a conversation piece.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Like, I really just like, people keep saying, oh, it gets better than where you look at it. Like, I'm starting to like, it doesn't bother me as much anymore. I'm like, no, you're getting used to it. It doesn't mean it's good. It means you're getting used to you can't use to anything you can use to torture if you have it Eventually you're like this isn't that bad actually. You know what? Waterboard me again seem bad at first, but no, I mean it is like I don't need you I don't need you consult to stand out like I need you to actually go away blend in just blend the fucking the fucking. So by the way, I'm looking because I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:46 well, are there any going to be any improvements? There are games right now that have been patched to unlock higher frame rates and better graphics performance. There's a bunch of PS4 games that are doing that now on the PS5. And I'm looking at it gives Moto Post, gives Moto Australia. Well, they have a big list of games. PS4 games that have unlocked frame rates. Well, frame rate to me, it's
Starting point is 00:33:13 like, oh, well, that's the bare minimum. Is that it should run at a more like it should run normally? Yeah, I mean, well, so yeah, dynamic resolution and unlocked frame rates, apparently, or what? Yeah, a locked 60 for a seven year old game to me is not like an impressive backwards compatibility. Well, hopefully, I mean, presumably, they can, I mean, presumably some of these games will be patched to take advantage of some of the features
Starting point is 00:33:38 of the PS5. I don't know how easy or difficult it is. I mean, I was like, when I was buying the Spider-Man game last night, they were like, you know, do you want to get this and the upgrade to Spider-Man for an additional $20 and I was like, no, I don't. I didn't finish the first Spider-Man. I kind of lost interest in it. I was like, there's no way I'm going to pay more money for it just to see some like reflections on fucking buildings. Like, you know, it's an offensive idea. In my opinion, that you spent $60 on a game, and now they're like, do you want to spend $60 again?
Starting point is 00:34:07 I mean, control is the most offensive scenario. I bought that game when it first came out because I was excited about it. Now I have to re-buy it in order to get the next 10%. I would just say, if you bought a game in like 2019, if a game was released in 2019, I'll just say, let's just be like a little bit fair. No, no, no, let's just say a game was released in 2020, okay? If you bought a game that was
Starting point is 00:34:32 released in 2020, what was control released? Was it 2019 or 2020? 2019? Okay, whatever. I think the last two years, maybe not all of them, but unless you're adding a lot of DLC, like a lot, But unless you're adding a lot of DLC, like a lot, like really a whole new game in there, charging more money for it is really super weird, in my opinion, like, I don't know, it's like, I already spent $60 on the game, and on a PC, if you got a new graphics card, it would just look better.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Well, that's the thing, like Xbox One games on the Xbox Series X already look way better. Like they have HDR somewhat, they have much higher frame rates and that was just like automatic. So, you see, that's how it should be. I'm like kinda pissed. Like, I'm kinda, I'm actually kinda pissed because I didn't really look into this
Starting point is 00:35:18 and I made an assumption that like of course they're going to like, it's gonna improve the performance of old games, which I took as a given maybe because I read some stuff about the series X actually watch the digital foundry video about the series X doing it. And I was like, Oh, cool. Like this makes sense for a next gen system since like the the the the jump from from last gen to this gen is not like it was in almost any previous time, you know? Yeah, it's easier for backwards, from a backwards compatibility standpoint.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah, but it definitely doesn't have to glue a PlayStation 2 into it or whatever. Yeah, but I mean, I think, I think, I don't know. I mean, I, I, I, I, like, I can't think of a game that I would pay money that I've been playing on my PS4 where I would pay more money to get a performance boost. And I think it's like a really rude thing to do to players. Like, like, like, I'm trying to think of a game that would make any sense to spend money on more money on just
Starting point is 00:36:14 so the graphics are better. That to me is like a tax that a gamer should not play. Like I mean, sorry, not actually in the light of like Nintendo put out a Kirby game and it wasn't super well received. So they put out two DLCs for it. And both of them were as large as the original game and we're entirely free. And they do that pretty regularly. And Nintendo does nickel and dime its fans. I'm not saying they don't, but it's really hard. It's really hard to look at like control and be told that I have to pay again in order to get like reflections in a building turned on like I just really Yeah, I just realized that I said it's a tax that gamers should not play and what I meant was a tax that gamers should not pay
Starting point is 00:36:53 No, I think both technically also when it comes to taxes don't play take that seriously. Yeah, don't play don't be don't be like my man don't Anyhow okay, but then there's there's, the PlayStation 5's not the only big new gadget that's out this week. Got the new iPhone. I don't know why. I have it in front of me. I'm not sure why I purchased it. I don't know why I purchased it either.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I actually think it was directly related to Trump winning the election. I was like, yeah, so I was, or not Trump, my God, my brain is scrambled to Biden winning the election. Yeah, when, yeah. So I was, or not Trump, my God, my brain is scrambled to Biden winning the election. Yeah. When it was, I think it was Saturday morning or Saturday when they went on sale.
Starting point is 00:37:31 If I'm not mistaken, I can be wrong. It was Friday, I think. Was it Friday? And I was like, no, but on Saturday morning, after all, it was people were like calling it. I was like, I was like, for whatever reason, it was like, oh yeah, the new iPhones also on sale now, the Pro Max. And I was like, you know how I'm gonna fucking get one.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And I just, it was on my phone, it was like, it took me like five minutes. And I was like, oh, I ordered one. Okay, I'm getting it. Also, I got an Apple card. Yeah, of course. I was like, yeah, I'm sure. Maybe that was on Friday, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You said, I got rid of this con artist. Now, let me just look at the end I spent three thousand dollars Yeah, I mean, I mean Anyhow I like was like cool. I'm getting a new phone. I mean, I know the camera's better. I will say the camera's really I mean, it's insane Really good. It's really good. It's it's it's just it's taking something that's already you know Unbelievably good and making it better. Like I took something like just random pictures of Zelda today with it and I was like, wow,
Starting point is 00:38:34 this definitely is a fucking beautiful camera and beautiful child. Okay, if I do say so myself. And any rate, so it's huge. The pro max is huge. The 12 pro max is really big. It's quite a large phone. It's like Galaxy Note size, to be real. And anyhow, whatever, I'm not complaining. But now I have to figure out what I'm going to do with the case. I don't want to put a case on it, but I definitely do not want to break it either.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And so luckily, I don't go anywhere. So it should be pretty easy not to break it. But I got the iPad Air. You did? Why? You already had it. Don't you have a pro? I had a pro from like 2016.
Starting point is 00:39:20 So it was pretty old and it worked fine, but I felt like it was time to upgrade and I felt like I was only gonna get exponentially less money for a trade-in. So I traded in my old pro and got like the top of the line new one, just of the air, not the pro. And oh my God, the iPad, listen, it can't be your main thing. But if you like drawing or if you consume media while you're like cooking or whatever,
Starting point is 00:39:48 like it is a really nice experience. There's just something about the level of polish that like it's still there, especially like no offense to the fanboys. I've been using an Android phone for the last few months and just the level of like it's just very graceful and well put together. Yeah. It is a nice to be back in its warm loving, like fascist embrace. Well, I'll be honest with you, I have a, I've been using the Pixel. What is the one I have? Is it a four?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I guess I don't have the five. So I've been using the OU. No, you have the four because four XL. Yeah. And I, I like basically keep it on my nightstand to like use before I'm going to sleep. So I've been using the old you have the four cuz four XL yeah, and I I like basically keep it on my nightstand to like use before I'm going to sleep and I like I really love the way Android works I love the way it works. It works so much better. I know I've said this a million times I will to this like till the day I die I will I will feel that it is just like it does so many things that are so much better And also like Google does stuff in Android that
Starting point is 00:40:46 It either they never bring to iOS or it takes them forever like like they have a new thing in Chrome which is tab groups In oh, yeah, that's so good. It's like folders for your tabs So you can take all the tabs like I I'll have a I've been like doing this thing where I don't close my tabs and Chrome anymore, I just leave them open. And which is something I've never done before, but I'm like, I'm always like, well, maybe I want to get back to this. And like, if I want, I can go to my history on another computer and look through the tab history and grab something out of it, which is a life hack, by the way. I feel free to use it.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But, but, but on, on Chrome for Android, you can take all those tabs and put them in essentially an tab folder. So you can separate it. And it also kind of auto does it. So I was looking at apartments, and I opened a million tabs, looking at apartments, and then I opened a completely new page because I was like, I need to look up a recipe because we lost the blue apron card.
Starting point is 00:41:42 So I had to pull out whatever the recipe was supposed to be. And then when I brought the card with the box, the worst. The worst. I was like, how do you make a shakshuka? And so I deleted, I got closed to that recipe. And then I realized all the apartment stuff was all clean and like putting this little like square for me to touch.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And I was like, oh, that's really nice. Yeah, no. It's stuff like that, the split screen on the phone, where I can just leave YouTube running at the top and then go through Twitter or whatever, like YouTube TV can just run. That kind of stuff, it's like, Apple says, oh, you'll have picture and picture, never fucking works.
Starting point is 00:42:16 It never write. It's not the same experience. Like, so there's little things about Android that I really, really like. I mean, the notification system, it's like, yeah, so much better. Mine day. I have, I think we had this conversation like. I mean, the notification system, it's like, yeah, so much better. Mine day. I have feeling we had this conversation like a thousand times,
Starting point is 00:42:28 but yeah, I was going to say, but it's the same thing it's always been. But I do think like, if it was between an Android tablet and the iPad, I mean, it's just not a competition. Like this is just like a real thing I can do stuff with. I know it's not theoretical. You know what I mean? Right. I have every Android tablet I've owned, it's theoretical.
Starting point is 00:42:45 It's like, well, I'm on the couch. Maybe I'll do some web surfing on there. You know, I go right and play running game. It's an Android game, but it'll blow up a little bit. And then I'll be fine. I'm never really doing that. I mean, I have very little utility for my iPad and I find it so frustrating to use,
Starting point is 00:43:01 particularly with the, you know, I bought the keyboard, the new keyboard attachment or whatever. Yeah, I bought the keyboard, the new keyboard attachment or whatever. Yeah, I have it too. I just find it to be infuriating. It actually makes the iPad worse to use. That's like, yeah, and you're picky about keyboards too, because like, when I play the iPad,
Starting point is 00:43:16 it feels a little, I don't care about the keys I can live with. I'm just saying like it does stuff that like, it makes it harder to do things on the iPad, like type things. Like it's like it just it just the whole conception of the iPad as a device that could be used with like a keyboard and a trackpad is so broken and like non-functioning. And I'm just so I'm so like annoyed with it most of the time that I use it. I'm like there's nothing here for me.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I have no use for this. I find the iPad to be beyond useless. But, you know, I can understand if you want to like draw, I guess. Although, I, again, I think like, I have a Surface Pro and I think it does that wonderfully. And I enjoy drawing on it when I need to like I was sketching some designs for like a thing I want to make I want to build a wood thing I want to build and I was like sketching it and then I did like a 3d version of it and I was like, you know, there's like it's really good for that shit And I know the iPad is too, but I just feel like the iPad is like just good for that, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:24 Well speaking of, multi-purpose devices from Apple, the Apple released new laptops with the M1 chip, which is basically, it's like an iPad chip, which is Apple Silicon, and it's, yeah, it's a big giant switch. I mean, it's a new version of Big Star that works with the architecture and apps will either have to run an emulation or we'll have to be rewritten for the M1 but it has it comes with a ton of benefits, right?
Starting point is 00:44:52 Like it, it's a lot faster. It gets things like video transcoding done like in a snap. It really low power. So you can pretty much double your battery life laptop wise. Yeah, you can just get like 20, I don't want to give the exact number. But it's like, it's like some insane like 20 hours of watching video on it or whatever. And it looks really, really, really attractive to me. But I mean, on the flip side of that, like now you're using an iPad chip without a fan
Starting point is 00:45:24 in a little thing with a keyboard and a screen and it's like, okay, do you want to get the iPad that's an iPad or do you want to get the iPad that has no touch screen? Because that's like starting to be the choice. They're presenting you. It does. It does. You want to file. You want a real file? Well, that's why you want to touch me. The question actually becomes like, could what is the chip? It's like, what is the chip in it's called the M1, right? The M1 is just a version of like the A14 or whatever the fuck it's called, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:52 So it raises the question, couldn't my iPad run this version of Mac OS? Like I think conceivably yes. And that's what makes it weird to, like I just bought the iPad because I want a new iPad And really I don't stop I know from looking that way That's the thing I don't I don't need a new laptop But now I'm like well why didn't they just install big sir on this and then I wouldn't have to worry
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah, I mean Well also, I mean I'm listen. I'm all for progress. Okay. Yeah, as you know, I'm a big fan of progress I'm listening, I'm all for progress, okay? As you know, I'm a big fan of progress. I've heard. And I'm all for, you know, the Apple doing its own thing. I mean, if you've got a better chip design and you can execute on it and you can create like a sick system that everybody's going to love, like, you should do that, you know, and you should move your system, you should move your ecosystem forward. I, what I fear more than anything is the,
Starting point is 00:46:56 the eye-padification or the iPhoneification of computers. Because like, to my point about my iPad, trying to be a computer, it sucks shit. It's not good. And so I'm very wary of a computer becoming anything like that. Yeah, I guess I'm just wary of like, I know, I think when I look at what Apple's done with the App Store and software, part of me is like, oh my God, think of all the games that will come to the Mac now because they'll already beat,
Starting point is 00:47:31 like they're such an incentive to make it if it's compatible with iOS, iPadOS, and the Mac OS, like that's a huge install base. So maybe gaming on Mac will get better. And then the other part of me is like, but do I really want a world where like, it's easiest to buy it in the app store, and then I have this like universal purchase
Starting point is 00:47:49 that like I'm stuck in this walled garden, and the apps don't will never obviously work with any other platform. And I can't buy from another manufacturer, and like it's the eternal Apple question, and if anything, it just makes it more intense, because it's not like you could buy a Macbook and be like, well, if I need to switch to Windows, I could.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Like conceivably, I could install Windows on this Mac. I, you can't do that with the new architecture. So it, I don't know, it just feels like you're being more walled in. And yet, I look at the fucking benchmark squares on that MacBook Pro and I'm like, well, maybe I don't care. Right. You're like, it's hard to like, you're like, wall me in. Yeah, maybe, maybe living in the wall would be care. Right. It's hard to like, you're like, wall me in.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah, maybe living in the wall would be nice. Yeah, I get more. I mean, I think it's definitely, you know, it's, we're certainly talking about trade-offs, but I mean, I'm not running windows on my Mac and I don't know a lot. I mean, some people do, but I think it's a dying breed you know I think it's Incidentally a smaller group of people that are doing that kind of shit. I
Starting point is 00:48:51 Certainly couldn't name anybody who's doing it So I you know, I'm not saying it's but it's apples right You know, I mean it's apples right to go. Hey, we're just gonna whittle this down and you get to live in our ecosystem. I do think if you wanna run Windows, there are lots of really good options to run Windows. Like, the only thing that I'm really missing at this point from my Windows experience is that I don't have iMessage on Windows.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And oh my God, it's so annoying, especially like, it becomes such a, it's, in both versions of it, right? So when I use a Windows computer, I'm like trying to use I message, or when I've used my Mac and I realized I switched to Android and I can't send a text message from just like, like if someone sends me a link over text message and I want to put it in Slack, I'm like, like, this is so, this should be the easiest thing in the world. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Um, but you know, I think that I, I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:43 Apple could solve that in a second by just creating an I agree. But, you know, I think that I, I mean, Apple could solve that in a second by just creating an I message. I'm kind of like, well, like, I get it, but I get it, but I mean, that is not enough for me to like start using a Mac again. I mean, admittedly, like, I was using, maybe it is for grandma. Yeah, I guess so. Or like, cousin Becky. She's like, oh, this one does tax messages?
Starting point is 00:50:04 Okay. Or Becky, or Becky from the Connors My favorite show on television. Maybe she wants that Yeah, I don't know, but you know, it's cool. It's good. It's a big it's this is I mean in Intel's five I mean in tell is is in trouble. I mean also I am D like Apple like it's not looking so great. I'm surprised like I'm surprised, like Apple, like it's not looking so great. I'm surprised, like I'm surprised it, like I wish that you would think that there'd be like, where's the big leap from Intel?
Starting point is 00:50:32 Like the big like, the, you know, this is their whole deal, right? This is it. They're like, we got pepper jack, pepper jack lake or whatever. They make the chips, they're the chip people, right? It's like, this is your chance to really, this is your chance to really be like, here we go, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:53 like we've dropped, we're gonna drop like the next gen it's gonna make all this stuff look silly by comparison, right? And instead they're like, here is Colby Lake too. Yeah, so here's an incremental update to our shit. You know what I'm just like, yeah, you can be on Pentium 16. I don't really give a shit anymore. Yeah, I mean, it just is,
Starting point is 00:51:24 I mean, they can't do it. They don't have the engineers, they don't have the tech, I mean, they can't do it. They don't have the engineers, they don't have the tech. I mean, they didn't do it, right? Which is such a, like, how does that happen? Like, you're Intel, like, I look at these companies and it happens time and time again where I'm like, you're by far the market leader. You should be doing everything you can to retain talent.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Like, you should be doing everything you can to like, stay one step ahead. And, you know, capitalism is terrible, but every once in a while I'm like, well, maybe you deserve to be punished because your tech has been pretty shitty for a little while. I mean, there definitely is, there definitely is, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:55 I mean, I, I, I've heard only horrible things about. I, you know, I don't know, it's, it's, I don't know, max certainly seemed to perform better generally speaking than like a PC in a lot of ways, but like my PCs feel very fast. You know, there are times when I'm like, wow, these are extremely annoying.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Like these, like startup is like annoyingly, takes an annoyingly long time in my PC, but then when my PC's running, I'm very rarely like, why is it so slow? On my Mac over time, I'm always like, this feels like it's getting slower and slower and less good at doing things. I, but like, but I think it's a combination
Starting point is 00:52:36 of so many factors now. I'm like, you know, it's bus speed and I'm using an SSD and my graphics card is really high end and like, you know, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, I don't know, I mean, who's to blame here, right? Who's to say like where, where, although I will say, looking at some of the benchmarks that Apple put out,
Starting point is 00:52:56 they're pretty striking benchmarks, you know? Yeah, we gotta see how it is real world, but if they're what they're saying is true, and they have a good track record of at least approaching the truth, it's in say, I mean, it's bonkers. Like for video editing, I really can't see why you would go with any other option.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's just you just wanna waste your time at that point because that motherfucker just like squirted out 4K like Apple Pro res footage into like a 4K like file. And for us, like I do lots of little video clips to not have to wait the like two minutes or whatever while it like churns through a tiny little clip and turns it into a gif or whatever. Like that would be great.
Starting point is 00:53:34 It would actually be really nice thing to add to my day. Yeah, I will. I mean, I will say I was tempted when I saw the new laptops. I was like, you know what, maybe I'll go back with this. Maybe this will be correct. I am looking respectfully. Yeah, I'm looking respectfully. You never start with the first gen.
Starting point is 00:53:55 No. A first gen Apple product. If you're listening to this, don't buy it. Don't buy it. You can't start. You can't start. You can't jump into the first gen. It's a, I would say a big mistake.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Any Apple product that just came out, you generally want to avoid it. And this has been true. I mean, historically has been very true. And it's not that they're like buggy or they fall apart. They're just always a little incomplete. Like they polish one part of the experience and then the rest they're like, well, good to it.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Isn't this amazing? And I'm like, that is amazing. But it's like on the iPhone, it was like, but how do I copy and paste? Where's 3G? What are you talking about? That's on the trio. They're like, yes, but look at multi-tap.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Oh, no, it's true. That's really nice. It's true, it's like, yeah, I mean, it's crazy. The copy and paste thing, it's so weird because we talked about it. That was a topic of conversation. When's the iPhone going to get copy and paste?
Starting point is 00:54:52 It's like, you know, but they're like, look at the New York Times and the browser, the desktop version of New York Times. Remember, they were like, look, you can load a web page on here, just the way it looks on your desktop. And then everybody was like, actually, I don't want it to look like it does on my desktop, because it's impossible to fucking read and navigate. I mean, it's like, you know, like the old school got a lot of stuff right. Like, there were these WAP pages, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:22 These are the pages. Yeah, exactly. Those are the pages you loaded on your trio and they were like formatted for a mobile device. And it turns out that like, you know, it took us a while to get there, but we ended up in like this loop of like, oh yes, formatted for mobile device makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And like, of course it led to huge improvements in the way we do web design. Well, improvements or huge problems. Like, responsive web design, which most people don't know anything about, I mean, probably a year if you listen to this, Tony, you do. But, you know, responsive web design is, is was a, was the, was the logical conclusion of like,
Starting point is 00:55:58 how do you make a web page that looks like good on a desktop and good on a mobile phone and good on a tablet. And it's like, it's actually the one of the worst environments to design in because it's like, it's like, well, like, you know, a painter has a canvas and they're like, my painting will be on this canvas and within the bounds of this canvas, I can create any universe that I want to. That is true for design. Unless you're designed, unless somebody's like, oh, by the way, I need you to, okay, Van Gogh, when you're done with your canvas,
Starting point is 00:56:26 I also need you to make this same picture work if the canvas is half as wide, but twice as tall. Can you do that? And it's like not really, not fucking really. I was really needing to someone how to make like an image for, how to choose an image correctly for a blog post on input mag.com. And I was like, listen, we are pretty open with our image standards.
Starting point is 00:56:48 We're not going to say, oh, it needs to be this style or this coloring or have this filter. But what it does need to do is it has to have something centered in the middle, because sometimes if you're on a phone versus a laptop, it's going to be vertical versus horizontal. And the picture needs to work both ways. And it needs to be high-res enough for like, you know, a both ways. And there's be high res enough for like, you know, a full camera. And there's all these solutions that people have come up with for things like that.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Like some CMSs have cropping stuff where you go, you crop for this, like inverse, you had a different CMS when they came in, when they were acquired by the company. They had a different CMS that would, and I thought this was a great feature, where it was like crop for this view, crop for this view, crop for this view, crop,
Starting point is 00:57:30 but you crop like eight pictures, and a lot of different CMSs do this, where it's like, okay, give me like eight different crops of a picture, so it can display in all these different places. Now the one that we use uses a target, which is actually makes a lot of sense, but it's interesting to think about your brain, like your brain doesn't work like this,
Starting point is 00:57:44 you're like, okay, the target, I have to be able to have enough room around the target that certain things will show and not be cut off. And like if you're, if like the subject of your photo is all the way on the left side of the photo and you want a target to be centered, and there's nothing there,
Starting point is 00:58:01 you can't target for a wide screen, sorry, for a narrower screen, because you can't move anywhere, you know? And then it's like, you gotta zoom. And then like zoom and crop are two different things that you've gotta do in tandem. And it's complete nightmare. My point is,
Starting point is 00:58:15 fuck phones, fuck Apple, fuck responsive design, fuck websites. Fuck the internet, unplug it, I'm done. Fuck the internet, you know it's great, you know you do. I'm painting, you know what I'm gonna it. I'm done fuck the internet. You know it's great. You know you painting You know I'm gonna do I'm gonna paint magazines zines magazines fucking just do whatever you want I used to be so mad. I'm sure I've talked about this before but like when I when I worked at Bloomberg And we worked very closely with the business week people, you know because we were obviously publishing stuff in tandem
Starting point is 00:58:40 But they would like you know, they were like laying out their issues and it was like their designers were like, ah, it'll be just so. And I'm like, oh, that's great. Like, wonderful that it will be just so for you. Like, now how is this going to work on the internet? Because the internet, you can't just have some shit crawling around the edge of the screen on every screen and it just looks cool. Like, you know, it was like, it was an interesting conversation to have with people who were thinking very much about print design.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Now luckily, you know, print design and digital design have gotten closer to each other. Anyhow, we're on a complete tangent. There's nothing to do with the new Macs. And I don't know, is there anything else to talk about? I feel like that's it. I feel like, no.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Well, the Nintendo Switch is more popular than anything else in its industry. The Nintendo Switch is popularity. It is now the best-selling console for 23 straight months, and it has sold 12.5 million Switch handhelds to date between April and September alone. Well, the Switch is the game system for everyone. And also, I mean, everyone needs a game system now
Starting point is 00:59:48 because we've all been quarantining and, you know, in lockdowns. And, you know, the thing about the Switch that's brilliant is like, it's a real video game system. It does all the stuff that real video game systems do. It has real video games that you wanna play, but you can play it in the nude while you're in bed, if you want, or you can sit on the toilet with it,
Starting point is 01:00:12 or you can take it on the sofa while someone else is playing a game on TV, you can play a different game, all the time. Lauren and I. It ties with two little controllers, one of which does motion, so you can include your kids on anything. Yeah, and all the time, Lauren and I. And it comes with two little controllers, one of which does motion so you can include your kids on like anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 And all the time, Laura and I are like, I'm playing something on the TV and she's like every night is playing like something on the switch separately in the same room. So you it's like you can even be like kind of social with a person and like still do your own thing. I mean, it's a very smart, flexible. It is essentially like, you know, people love iPhone games, right? But iPhones kind of suck to game on.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And it basically like, I feel like Nintendo can do buttons and sticks. I feel like Nintendo's biggest, yeah, their biggest innovation was like, people love iPhone games, but they hate the controls. What if we snap and they literally did this, they're like, what if we snap controls onto the sides of an eye? In fact, I would not be surprised to discover that the impulse
Starting point is 01:01:10 to create the switch was exactly that where somebody was like, you know, I love these in these like inventive new games that I'm playing on my iPhone, but the control suck and nobody wants to go get some like third thing to wrap around it, except for Ryan. And so what if we made a game system like based around that idea? And then you see how the idea is kind of spiral out from there. Like, oh, what if these things came off? And what if like each player could take like the controller
Starting point is 01:01:35 and use the phone, you know, the screen, which is essentially the phone here, as like a little TV, you know? And so like you kind of see how it, it might have been a very natural progression progression I don't know if that's true or not but I think it's like it is you know it's fascinating to see how it's been adopted but it's also it also I mean when I first saw the switch I was like this is cool but I don't want it I was like this is not for me I have it doesn't
Starting point is 01:02:04 have a place in my life I was like, this is cool, but I don't want it. I was like, this is not for me. It doesn't have a place in my life. I was like, this is an inventive idea. I don't totally get how it's going to work, like in day to day. And now it's like, it makes so much sense. And I think maybe it because of or additionally, with the pandemic, you can kind of see that that like mixed modality of it is a real asset. It really is, it's a game system for any situation, for any environment, for any person, because I think there are games in Nintendo has always done the Switch as games for kids that are great. Zelda plays a Switch, she plays Animal Crossing on it. She loves it. She's played Mario Kart and a few other games, but I can play like LA Noir or like Laura can play civilization.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And you know, they're like they're not the graphically the greatest experiences, but they're real video games. You know, they're the games that we want to play. They're for like a they're're full blooded like adult games. And I just think that like Nintendo hit that sweet spot. And, and they're reaping the rewards. I mean, you know, imagine if Nintendo could come up with PS5 level performance in that kind of package. I mean, that to me is the holy grail, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Like if they could do exactly what they do with the switch, but they got the graphics performance to be next-gen level, I mean, that is the dream, right? And that opens up all kinds of interesting ideas, right? Like, what could you do with VR if like your screen's performance that was super portable also had the performance of a next-generation console? Like, you could snap that into a headset and have a whole different experience, you know? Like, you can use it for all kinds of crazy AR games. Like, there's, I'm just like, I really hope
Starting point is 01:03:53 that Nintendo comes up with an next-gen switch that feels actually like the next-generation. Yeah, I think they nailed all of what you just said. And I think they walked away from being in the power competition a while ago. And I totally understand that was the right choice. And I support them. And honestly, you do not need a ton of power to have fun.
Starting point is 01:04:12 But it would be nice to see them take what worked with the switch. They've had a healthy profit margin on it for a while now. And beef it up and actually try to play not necessarily the big boys game, but like dabble in it and try to have a little bit of umph under the hood because I would like to play some, there are games that will be coming out for the Series X and the PS5 that will not really be able to be adapted for the current Switch, but maybe the next one, Switch, it could be, and there are some games that I will take a hit in the, you know, resolution and it would, it would can't do ray tracing.
Starting point is 01:04:46 If it means I can play it while John and I watch TV, like that's a really nice benefit and to play it on the subway or whatever. And so, yeah, I hope Nintendo, I'm so glad to see the wind that they're back because they're really killing it, but I hope that they don't get a little too complacent with it. And they actually create a switch too. Well, it'd be interesting. It's interesting to see what Apple's doing.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I mean, going back to what you're talking about their chips and stuff. I mean, the iPad is a gaming device. We're even the iPhone. I mean, you can laugh about the little shell you put on with the controller, but the graphics are amazing. I mean, it really can chug out some like gorgeous stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:24 And, you know, most people don't really want chug out some like gorgeous stuff. And, you know, most people don't really want to play on their iPad. But if you could get a version from Nintendo that even if it could do half of what the current iPad could do, that would be seriously impressive. Yeah, I agree. No, and I think, I mean, well, you know, the next few years are going to be a really, I think it can be some really breakthrough stuff happening partially because of the miniaturization of those super powerful chips and the progression of them. Thanks to people like Apple that have been pushing hard, the ARM architecture has just
Starting point is 01:05:58 been taken to a whole other place. And the machine learning component. I can't wait to see games tap into the power of machine learning. I can't wait till games are like Siri and they can't answer any of my fucking questions and are annoying. Also, here's another story before we go. Amazon is expanding its garage entry delivery service called MyQ where basically you give them the information of how to get in your garage and then they create
Starting point is 01:06:27 like one time pass codes to let delivery people into your garage to drop off packages. It sounds in concept like a perfectly fine idea, but when it's Amazon, who's like ring doorbell system is being tapped by the police to like find people of color and like convict them of crimes they didn't commit. Like it's a little hard to be like, oh, here Jeff Bezos, come in my house every day.
Starting point is 01:06:49 The best thing about this announcement is the press image. I think I saw a press image where it's a person, a delivery person, kind of like, tentatively pushing some packages into somebody's garage. Yes, yeah. It's like a cutaway, if you can imagine, it's like a side view of a garage, okay? Like, you've cut the garage in half, you're looking at it from the side. On the right side of your view, you can see the driveway. On the left side is the interior of the garage.
Starting point is 01:07:19 With the garage door, you know, in between, obviously. And there's like, a person, maybe they're in a UPS outfit, I can't remember, but they're like, there's a stack of boxes, they're like, they've kind of pushed them through, they're like right on the edge, just over the edge into the garage, and then they've got their little scanner thing out
Starting point is 01:07:36 or whatever, but they look like, and of course they're wearing a masking gloves because we want to tell everybody that we're being said. Madeleine good behavior. Exactly, but it just looked really funny. Like, it just looks like a cartoonish thing where they like push this thing inside and are running away.
Starting point is 01:07:52 And I like, I listen, I honestly, we have, I mean, we have, we get deliveries here all the time. We know the delivery people. We, you know, they leave stuff all over the, we're very, very comfortable with them leaving stuff wherever. Honestly, if there was a way that it would be easy for them to open the garage and put stuff in there,
Starting point is 01:08:17 I don't hate the idea. I just think, I don't know. If I had little kids who might be in the garage at a time when they're delivery person thinks I'm not home and they're getting their bike, like there's gotta be a line for me where like you are a stranger.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Even if you're a stranger, I tip at Christmas and that I know their name and like you're still someone I do not know and I don't want you to have the ability through any means if I order a DVD and you've been waiting to get into my house. Like, maybe I'm just speaking from the sexual assault victim place, but like I have to know, even if it is an illusion of security, that like there is a door and it is locked and only I have the key and it would take you putting in a lot of effort or making a lot of noise
Starting point is 01:09:00 to get through it. And it's not worth it for me for Amazon packages. If you order that much stuff from Amazon and you live in a nice enough house that you have a garage that has a special digital lock thing, I think either you can get your packages sent to work or it's not that high stakes a thing for you. So I don't really see other than to make people more paranoid about package theft or more paranoid In general already or to give corporations more access to our lives. I don't know. I don't like it I to me my my knee jerk reaction was like no
Starting point is 01:09:34 And I've had so many problems with Amazon and packages being stolen my old apartment. It was like a Free for all I would like whip down the stairs the second I saw the Alexa LED go off because I'd be like Oh, there's a delivery like fuck I gotta get it and like I don't know I still wouldn't have been totally comfortable. It's not for me, but I do think it's better to have options on the table I guess because yeah, people are People it is a problem that needs to be solved people are upset about especially around the holidays Packages go missing people the holidays, packages go missing. People are nervous. Packages do go missing. But you know, it's funny. We did a feature
Starting point is 01:10:09 last year or earlier. Was it early this year? Was it at the end of last year? I can't remember about a study that was done on thefts on, you know, porch theft? Oh, yeah. The party was like, study was like, if you can, don't get your stuff delivered onto your porch. It's like, this is a good way to prevent theft. You know, I don't yet porch pirates. Yeah, I don't know. I hate that term. I think there's something like really weird about it. But at any rate, I mean, listen, I think Amazon should be allowed to enter your home, film you in the nude fornicating and then sell that video on amazon.com to the highest bidder.
Starting point is 01:10:51 And if you don't agree that that's their right as a corporation in America, then maybe, you know, love it or leave it, buddy, you know, these colors don't run, et cetera. Well, with that, you know, either you're a pay tree or you're not. Either you want Amazon to fill me in the nude and sell it on their website, or you hate America. You know, your choice. Well, for only fans to Paul's key to Tony's ears, let's move on to nice things. So he agrees.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Tony knows. Tony likes it. Is anything this week been nice for you? I mean, everything this week has been nice for me. Except for the fact that I have a cold and Zelda has a cold, it's a horrible cough, it's so bad and that horrible sounding. She said three COVID tests, she's negative. Unlike Elon Musk, got the PCR test.
Starting point is 01:11:44 But anyhow, actually, she got two rapids in one PCR. And we're still waiting got the PCR test. But anyhow, actually she got two rabbits in one PCR and we're still waiting in the PCR. So she maybe has it actually. But anyhow, no, it's been a week's been, it's been a little chaotic because she's homesick and I'm not feeling well. But you know, it's also a week that I got a new iPhone and a new console, which is insane
Starting point is 01:12:04 and hasn't happened in so long. I mean, I can't remember the last time, even the last like they did upgrades to these consoles, like when was the PS4 released? Oh my God. PS4 is like 2013? Is it? That's a long ass time ago.
Starting point is 01:12:17 That's his log, it's like I've been watching trailers for Cyberpunk 2077. Yeah. It's gotta be, I think it's longer than that, isn't it? No, it's November 15th, 2013. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cyberpunk that games never coming out. There's a rumor now that's gonna be pushback even further. Oh my god. I don't even want to play it anymore. Honestly, I don't I'm like I'm like I don't care. I'm I'm. Is this edging? No, no edgings. There's something enjoyable about this is like I'm just also you you edging? Yeah, I know. No edgy, there's something enjoyable about it. This is like, I'm just,
Starting point is 01:12:47 also you eventually finish when you edged. This is like, I know spoilers, but this is like, there's a madman, there's a whole madman, sir. Have you seen madman? You have, right? Like eight times. Yeah, there's a whole madman story
Starting point is 01:12:59 where don't, where don't you ever try to be like a Dom? And like, the woman that he's with is like, you know, I'm good I'm done. I'm leaving. Yeah, no, no, no, she's like I'm just not into this anymore like I'm out of here Like that's what cyberpunk is right now. It's like oh, yeah, you're trying to top me, but actually I'm topping you and I'm leaving goodbye Yeah, it's like it's like anyhow, so nice things. I mean look what nice things. Yeah, it's like, it's like anyhow. So nice things. I mean, look, nice things. Yeah, I got nice things for you. You know, I talked about the nice things at the top of the show.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I think that the PS5 is very exciting. I think the new Spider-Man game is fantastic for lots of reasons. Not the least of which is that it show, it represents a person of color as a lead character as the hero of a fucking game, where he is a superhero saving the day. He lives in Harlem. It's a very New York game, and I think it's a wonderful story for everybody to see. And I were a kid getting a PS5 on Christmas day or whenever kids are going to get it.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Hanukkah morning. Hanukkah day one morning, which is like December 10th, so really soon. People love Hanukkah morning. That's what everybody's all about. Hanukkah morning, day after day, just bored, bored, joy, just so many balls of cereal. Just incredible. No, but you know, I think it's awesome. I think that's really cool.
Starting point is 01:14:20 And I love it. I love it. And also, I love, and this to me is part and parcel of the same for me, the same trip, but I love the world that I love the world that Zelda's gonna grow up in, where there's more of that, where that's normal, and where Kamala Harris is, the vice president, maybe the president, hopefully the president, or someone like her,
Starting point is 01:14:43 and I like a world that feels like it's moving in the right direction. And Trump fucking lost. It was gonna be gone. He lost, like a huge loser. Like a dog. Like a, like a, like a, like a, actually, that's rude to Dawes as Dawes rule and like,
Starting point is 01:14:58 I don't know what, but at any rate, he lost, we have a new president and vice president, a vice president who was a woman of color Which is awesome. We have a new Spider-Man game that doesn't star White As Peter Parker and And and you know, it's left flagship launch, you know for for a for a new console like anyhow It's just a very exciting world we live in everything. It's like everything changed and I got a new iPhone for no reason It's like everything changed after oh, and new iPhone for no reason. It's like everything changed after, oh, and there's a vaccine, Pfizer and House of Vaccine. That's 90% effective for coronavirus that we think by next spring could be in widespread distribution. So, you know, I got no complaints.
Starting point is 01:15:38 It's flamdog. I got everything's coming up, Mill House, as they say. I, what do you you're nice thing? I'm also having a suspiciously nice week. Very suspiciously. So Biden, obviously, president, Biden, president, got all new game consoles, got new phone, new screen. This is your mind-ice things.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I'm building up to it. I had a legal issue that just resolved to thank God. Oh, our union at Bustle, we have a voluntary recognition and we're moving forward to a car contract. And so I'm very happy for Bustle. And I'm very happy for everyone on both sides of that. I think that it's a great thing for the company. And it'll make our work even better.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And our workers even happier. And I'm thrilled about it. And then finally, my biggest thing. So I have moved into this apartment, right? And it's been a saga. We were so excited about it. We couldn't get it. We got it. We scraped together the money.
Starting point is 01:16:38 We had to pay people back. We paid them back. We finally were living here. Then COVID hit right after we got married and we were trapped here. My landlord just basically just like ghosted us. Just like we had huge repairs that were needed, like desperately needing to be done that were like code violations that they didn't do. We like didn't they wouldn't send us a new lease agreement so we didn't know if we were supposed to move out or if we were going month to month. And then when they did, it was the same price and we were like, Hey, just like to know COVID rates like rents down 40 to 50% on our block alone. Like this isn't,
Starting point is 01:17:09 this is an overpriced kind of apartment to begin with. And now we can't even use the amenities, like the like museums and the like chops and stuff. So like, you're going to have to give us a better price. They came back and it was like a joke. It was like a comical. They, they, they took like a hundred dollars off of the price and we were like, what? So then we were like, fuck, we have three weeks to find a place to move. And we're panicking and we went, we saw some apartments, Josh,
Starting point is 01:17:31 that I swear to God, I was like, this, I can't be an adult. I cannot be an adult in living in this apartment. Like, oh, I'm familiar with the New York experience, okay. Reaks of weed, which I love weed, but my neighbor's like weed smoke making it into my apartment speaks nothing good about the like state of the building It was just like really bad seven floor or seven floor illegal walk-ups. There was just things I saw that I can't unsee
Starting point is 01:17:55 Hey, man, then then like a holy grail. I went and stopped by this one building Josh I have we are our application has been approved. We signed the lease. It is called the blank. It is a building that has a, that has a property name. You got a name. It's a property name. It is a luxury high rise that has the most amenities of any building in New York City.
Starting point is 01:18:16 It is a bowling alley. It is a pool. It is a golf simulator. It is a rock climbing wall. It has a courtyard with a fire pit. Oh my god. What? Fucking crazy. They come in the clean your room. We've got like laundry service It's I'm going to be living like I am on vacation for two years hold on
Starting point is 01:18:33 I'm looking at I see you dropped it. We have a house room in our slack. I'm looking at it right now Let me take a look. Is this you've got this? This guy is saying what they got they got like that that Chinese drywall That's like moldy so then so then we looked at all the reviews I would not find a single negative review they've they've every review was they got that they got that service that I saw advertised on CNN where the guy is in for an interview and they're like you know where everybody's really impressed by your resume but we Google you and found some really disturbing stuff online he's like that's false reputation ad. He's like, that's false. Reputation, Adder. Yeah, it's like reputationwatch.net or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Come on a second, let me see here. Let's see some pictures. Oh, I'm going to have my own movie theater that I can reserve to watch movies. No, you've got like a so-how situation going on. Yes, it's fucking a pool, a hot tub. All right, okay. What, how many bedrooms are you in?
Starting point is 01:19:26 We're we'll be in a one bedroom with We have like a separate living room and a separate kitchen so it's not like any of those are combined Oh, yeah, these are these these rants aren't too bad well, so the price for this apartment before COVID with was $7,000 a month. Plus, you paid $100 each for the amenities and your pets had to pay rent. And honestly, I might just get a place here
Starting point is 01:19:50 just to have a little chill pad, you know, a little p-edit terror. Well, so I got it for, get ready to hold onto your asshole, Tony, 2.8 with everything included. So what? Fuck everybody else. I am going to be living like I'm, I am going to be living like a god damn king for two years.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I signed a two year lease too, because I was like, I know that the y'all changed the price of me the second there's a vaccine. I know, I know, I gotta say, I know how you feel. I remember when I moved to Philadelphia. Well, it actually ended up being a very bad situation, but when I moved to Philadelphia, I was shown this place that was like still being worked on.
Starting point is 01:20:24 They're like, oh, this will be done in like a couple of months and I had wasn't going to move for like six or something, or four months or something. And they're like, this will be done in like two months. And I was like, oh, okay. And I walked in, I was like, oh my God, this place is so sick. I cannot believe I'm going to get an apartment in this building.
Starting point is 01:20:38 I ended up not getting the apartment because they never finished the work. And you know, last said, lifeless don't just, don't believe them. Don't believe that they tell you it's gonna be finished. But no, but I know the feeling of, I mean it's like when we saw our house, when you were talking to a place, and you were like,
Starting point is 01:20:56 I just never thought that would be me. Is it possible that I could actually live in a place like this? Like that's insane, you know what I mean? I was looking at the people, when I was being toward, I was looking at the people who do live there right now, and I was like, am I among you?
Starting point is 01:21:06 Like I am a dirty poor. You're supposed to spit on me and it's like shuffled to the dollar store. You know what I mean? I could not believe that I could afford it, and I know that it's because of COVID, and I understand it's coming out of some horrible tragedy, but it is still re-lining.
Starting point is 01:21:19 For two years, I'm gonna get to live this life that I never thought I would get to live with. I got it, man. I mean, these, I'd love to see what like some of these larger places are going for. I mean, these are really, they are, you know, quite attractive, very beautiful. And I'm just looking at some doing some virtual tours now. Well, all of which to say, I won't need Amazon's My cute garage delivery service because I have a goddamn door man. Oh Can't wait at the rock wall shit is truly outrageous. Oh, it's amazing
Starting point is 01:21:51 It's like you can't use the rock wall man. COVID is raging So the rock wall and a couple other things are off limits till there's a vaccine, but You can reserve I yeah, oh you can reserve, the movie theater, the movie theater reservation alone to me would be like a big, like that's a cool idea that you could like, you know, and he had a- I mean, the idea that like went on Disney plus a new Pixar movie drops, rather than having to go to a movie theater, which I can't do,
Starting point is 01:22:20 because New York City has had no movie theaters at any point. Oh my god, you have a golf simulator in the building? Yeah, we have a golf simulator in a box. This is Larry, this is a cafe. Yeah, there's a whole, like, natural foods cafe. Oh my god. In the library.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Only in New York. Only in New York in all suits. But so I can now go to the theater and watch the movie with John and pick like a night. And it'll be like going to the movies. And like, I just feel like we've really suffered. We got married. We had no fucking honeymoon,
Starting point is 01:22:46 we've been living in this apartment, which has, which was very nice, I have to say, it was a stunning apartment, and it is rotting around us. And so for the price of this current apartment, we're gonna be living like, the goddamn sultan. So, I don't need that bullshit, man. My mom was like, are you letting them in to do showings of your current apartment?
Starting point is 01:23:02 And I was like, nope, I'm gonna screw them as hard as they tried to screw me on my way out the door to become like, I keep calling it the sweet life of John and Ryan. But I, you know, I'm gonna be living like, what's that name of that girl who lives in a hotel? Eloise. Eloise.
Starting point is 01:23:16 The perfect hotel. Yeah, I'm gonna live like Eloise. You're just, you are, you and Eloise in my mind will be forever linked. But now I have to move Thanksgiving weekends. Well, that's fine. You know what should happen. Okay, at least you're moving to a wonderful new place.
Starting point is 01:23:30 All right, we gotta wrap this up. I'm getting very hungry, and you know, you wouldn't like me when I'm hungry. Yeah, hangry. All right. Yeah, exactly. Bye. Bye. Well that is our show for this week, but we'll be back next week with more tomorrow, and
Starting point is 01:24:05 as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just learned that your family has moved to a beautiful new luxury apartment, and all of the amenities are off limits. you

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.