Tomorrow - 222: Trump goes coup coup

Episode Date: January 8, 2021

Josh and Ryan are in disbelief at the events of this week. They discuss the seditious acts of Trump supporters in the nation's capitol, our collective lack of accountability, and how tech companies like Twitter and Facebook are (or are not) responding. Happy new year? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Joshua Tupulski. Today on the podcast we discuss Horrible, terrible, no good, must be removed from office. Trees in his Donald Trump. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. Insurrection, sedition, civil war. That's's right we're back i was so excited to have a nice episode about how you know we flipped Georgia yeah and it was going to be so exciting we flip Georgia democrats now essentially have control of the senate unfortunately uh... the senate all

the senators have been murdered and the senate has been the Senate Chamber has been burned to the ground by Trump's violent mob of seditionists. That hasn't happened, but it very well could, and very well could have. Unless you've been living under a rock, you should know that on January 6th, Wednesday, January 6th, Trump sent a very violent, very stupid mob of mentally ill people by the thousands to the Capitol building where literally every representative, every politician from every part of America was gathered to count the electoral college votes. And they just broke in and started destroying shit and fighting with cops and they had zip ties and explosives and weapons. And those of us who are planted at the DNC and the RNC. I mean, I mean, it's just their terrorists who were trying to violently overthrow them.

American ISIS, their American ISIS, their terrorists, they are Trump's terrorists and they have been coddled and created and molded by Trump and the GOP in this country. And they all have blood on their hands and they all should be in fucking jail. Trump included. And I mean, it's it's honestly like, you know, you can laugh it off. And I'm sure all of these fucking right wing nut jobs are acting like this is some huge hilarious troll, but it's not. I mean, there were people who were in danger yesterday. There were people who died yesterday. And my guess is, if they had gotten a chance to get their hands on the people who worked

in those buildings, which they thankfully didn't, there would have been a lot worse that was happening. I mean, people don't bring, I mean, people had more than one person had the kinds of zip ties you use to handcuff people, not regular zip ties, but ones that are specifically made as like in bulk. Yeah, they're made for bulk restraining of people. And as far as I'm concerned, that could really only mean one thing, which is that they wanted to take hostages.

And if we learned anything from what happened to Michigan, it's that they probably were people there with a plan to take hostages and do executions and hold some kind of bullshit mock trial. But at the end of the day, Donald Trump, who is currently the president of the United States for 14 more days, ordered his mob to go and to basically violently take the capital, which they did. And there were no police really to speak of to stop them. And they got within a hair of literally every person in line of succession to run the country. I mean, let's call it what it is.

The police let them in. The police were taking selfies with them. Like, yeah, the police saw a bunch of white people. They saw a bunch of white people with Trump fly. I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the't bad people. These are us, like this is us, you know? And they're not gonna do anything. We don't really need to worry too much. And the reality is they let them walk the fuck in. And they took selfies with them.

And they let them walk into places that they had and never had any business being. These fucking end, more importantly, let them walk out with things to take home. I mean, literally literally the idea. And go to the hotel and be like, oh, that was a wacky day. The outrage, the outrage that I felt

watching these people be let out of the building as if it was like, oh, hey, your tour is over. Have fun, great, great meeting you. You know, it's like, these are people who broke into a federal building where literally every representative from every state who broke into a federal building where literally every representative from every state was housed, the vice president. I mean, I just want people to imagine

if somebody had gone in there with a decent explosive because it would have been very easy. It would have been, I mean, not no one was stopping people from walking into that building with whatever they wanted, okay? It would have been very easy for one of those people to go in there with a major, like a significantly size explosive. It would have been very easy for them to go in

with a fucking can of gasoline. And like I really want people to consider the fact that the Donald Trump basically told people to go and violently overtake the building that housed all of our nation's politicians. And let's, let's, let's, let's follow up with this follows after a summer of crowing about law and order and trying to crush protesters and trying to crush any activists, anyone doing peaceful protests, journalists for covering those issues, when there's clear evidence of police brutality and these protests were largely peaceful demonstrations for a

specific cause which they had evidence for across the nation as opposed to a group of violent thugs and terrorists swarming a government building on the basis of something that they have been unable to show any evidence for in the media in 50 court trials in within the Senate proceedings that they interrupted. They have been unable to provide any evidence that the reasons that they state that they did this actually exist are actual issues actually happened. And yet we're being treated right now to just a diet of both sides, a diet of, of excuse making. And honestly, it's

inexcusable. I don't have to feel empathy. At a certain point, do I feel like there is a mental illness epidemic in this country? Yes. Do I think that a lot of these people are in a cult? Absolutely. Do I think cult members should be deprogrammed? Yes. But when you are violently, violently on national TV, on social media, harassing, attacking, threatening the lives of, and just the state of democracy, but threatening the lives of

elected officials of anyone really. Like, you have to draw a line. Like, I'm sorry, you can be like, eh, Colin Copernick, there's a time and place for that kneel. I don't agree with you, but like, you can't then turn around and be like, well, they were concerned because of the stop, the steal.

Like, we have, there's no more excuses. We have to, there is no both sides. There is no, like, we have to hear these people out. We have to have compassion. We're coming together. I don't care what Joe Biden says. We're done with this. Like, because this, if there are no consequences for this,

if this isn't called out, if this isn't stated exactly for what it is, and these people aren't punished, aren't shunned from society, aren't exposed, this will happen again. And again. And again. And I mean, I think the thing to remember is that these clowns that went in there yesterday were disorganized and didn't really seem to know what they were doing, though they were absolutely violent and absolutely breaking the law in 10 different ways. Imagine if they're more organized, now they know, right? Now they know, right?

They can do it if they want, if they go with enough numbers, if they wear a flag, if they get some old ladies to stand with them, if they say don't tread on me and they cosplay as tea party members from the fucking, you know, 17th century. Then, oh, it's totally fine. You're totally good. You put on some raccoon stuff. Just go on in without metal detectors. Who cares?

It's not the seat of power of the entire fucking world. They were taking pictures of computer screens that were left open because of me so quickly. Yeah. I mean, just that, just the fact that they were in Nancy Pelosi's office, fucking with her computer. It's like, that's a crime. But let me just be clear, like, this is the inevitable, really in many ways, the inevitable and result of what Donald Trump has been doing in this country for the last four or five years since he began running.

And the GOP has enabled and encouraged him every step of the way and let's be really crystal fucking clear. All of these people who should have on the day after the election said, you know what? Elections over. You had a good run, we wish you'd won, but you fucking lost, and now you need to own it. Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, Mark Rubio, up and down the fucking line. These people, instead of saying what they should have said, if they were real, they'd quote unquote patriots and said, it's over, Trump. What they, what they, what they did was they said, what's, what could the harm be? You know, it's humorum, you know, let's, but you know, it was always with that thing that's like, well, let's humor him.

But hey, if it works, because I got news for you, like, they have been promoting and supporting this behavior, as long as it got them what they wanted, but you know what, when they were shitting their pants yesterday, which I'm sure some of them were, when they were being, their heads were being held down as people, as their security, brandished guns, while they were fucking people smashing windows and trying to break into

their barricaded chambers. I'm sure they were thinking, wait, we know this is not what we want, this is not what we bargained for, but you know, it's like, and I hate to make an analogy to a shitty Christopher Nolan movie, but you know, it's like, it is literally like the fucking Joker narrative from the Dark Knight. It's like all the mob guys were like, oh, we could have this insane person do our dirty work, and it's like, oh, we could have this insane person, do our dirty work and it's like, yeah, and then he fucking kills you because he doesn't care about

whatever your bullshit is. That is happening right now. On parlor, they are calling Mike Pence and other more, quote unquote, mainstream Republicans, communists and saying they are traders who are going to stop Trump and allow the Democrats to steal things because they're socialists like they

Turn on each other. They eat their own. They they're not going to it's Trump It's the people that Trump worships and lords with approval when they're loyal quote unquote to him And the minute that they disagree with him or they get in the way or they're inconvenient for him They're a dog who tricked, who was his secret plot for. I mean, look at the history of this guy. I mean, the idea that they didn't know that this was going to happen is. We all knew it was. It was hosted everywhere.

I mean, I tweeted a thread from somebody. What is his name? Horn, let me go find it. A guy named Aria Kovler, I think I'm pronouncing it right, maybe not. Aria Kovaler, not really sure. Okay, December 21st, 2020. December 21st, he said, on January 6th, armed Trump is maliciously rallying in DC at Trump's orders. It's highly likely they will try to storm the Capitol after it certifies

Joe Biden's win. I don't think this is sunk in yet. These people are angry at the Democrats. They're angry at the GOP for not suspending democracy. They hate the media and many consider police to be the enemy, even as they fly the blue lives flag instead of the stars and stripes. They are convinced that Congress will somehow declare Trump the winner on January 6th. Maybe Pence will just refuse to count the electoral votes from states Biden won, or the Senate will throw those votes out, or Justice Thomas, alternatively, something that Trump will win just because they will ensure it. Maybe by forcing Congress to certify him as the winner at gunpoint, maybe his backup

forces to Trump supposed military coup. It's like this is exactly what happened and lots of people, lots of people could see it coming and everybody who's followed what Trump is doing and the way he's talked about the people who follow him and the way that their brains have been poisoned with lies and misinformation. It is, it was obvious, but honestly, I'll say this, I felt like this was possible. I felt like we were heading towards it. I was not ready for what I saw yesterday in America.

I was not mentally prepared for the moment when these people just walked into what should be one of the most protected buildings in the world. I mean, again, I wanna really stress this. Like, there's a show called Designated Survivor that was on TV that has this far-fetched concept that somebody blows up the capital building during the state of the union, okay? And kills the president and everybody else.

The only thing that was missing at this, in this building, at this moment, when these people, these strangers, these violent strangers at the behest and request of Trump went in, the only thing that was missing there was Trump, right? Everybody else who was in power, the vice president on down,

everybody who would be in line of succession for the presidency, if something were to happen to the president, was in that building. So I just want to be, I don't think people have really grasped this. They were like a fucking hair, a hair away from being able to execute

the entirety of the government in America. Even if, even if you think, well, I don't think that they would do that. I don't think, you know, those people were clearly just protesters. Whatever you think, it takes one bad actor, quote unquote, clearly there were a group of terrorists, so they were all bad actors.

But it takes one severely bad person who is either intelligent or sociopath, skits a frenic or just having a bad day in cell fucking psycho. It takes one of those people not only to like blow up the capital building, but to kill all of the people that you're arguing were just quote unquote protesters. Like, to be clear, I don't think every one of those people was planning on murdering somebody. I think a lot of those people were there because they're stupid or they're mentally ill, okay?

And they don't really understand that like, you can't just crash into the Capitol building because you're fucking dear, because dear leader says to do so, you know, and I think that there was, had there been an appropriate amount of protection and police around the capital building, around the, this space, this wouldn't have happened, but there absolutely wasn't.

And so there's a whole side of that failure that has nothing to do with these people themselves and has actually to do with how we, we failed to protect the people inside those buildings. Both the people working there who had nothing to do with these people themselves and has actually to do with how we failed to protect the people inside those buildings. Both the people working there who had nothing to do with the politicians and the politicians themselves. But the thing that is truly extraordinary is that how close we actually came yesterday to something not by the way for people died. I mean, we're talking about the seat of power in this country. We're talking about the ability and filled with the most powerful people in the country next

to the president. And we came so fucking close. And that was just like, you know, the first try. And I just want to say like, you know, you may say, well, oh, they were just there protesting, or they were just there because they were angry. There were people, these same people who had a plan to kidnap and execute the governor of one of our states.

These are the same fucking people. And there were many people there wearing Nazi paraphernalia, wearing fucking shirts that said camp Auschwitz on them, people who are known white supremacists, this motherfucker, this motherfucker, baked Alaska, who is a well-known alt-right fucking neo-Nazi pile of shit was in Nancy Pelosi's office. I mean, these are people who should be in jail for decades, okay? The Confederate flag, which is traitors, seduces, seditious acts, and tried to secede from the country. Not American. To be clear, the Confederate flag is not an American flag. So like, let's just break down for a moment

that that flag has never been flown in the Capitol building. And not even close. And it was being waved around by violent terrorists yesterday that were encouraged by the president of the United States. Like, I've seen a lot of people posting that we're all overreacting

or that somehow this is being cooked up in the way that people were like, you know, COVID's just the flu. This is a media thing. I cannot overstate. And you know what? Let's throw all of it aside. Let's throw all of the consequences. The four people dead, all the danger that could have happened, all the danger that's happened

that we don't know about. And let's talk about for a second, that the main thing that those people did when they realized they couldn't take hostages or that there was no one to scare was take pictures and videos for social media. Why did they do that? Because they realized that once they've done that, that was all they needed.

That is the totem of power. That symbolically, that visual is so important. And those words and images will matter so much. And they will have an effect on the world stage. They will have an effect on other domestic terrorists. They will have an effect on other just international, whatever terrorists. Not that there's a huge distinction there. That damage is already done done and it should never be possible. No terrorists should be involved in because the because the state of the security of the Capitol building looked the other way solely on the basis that these people were white and in like matching t-shirts that said civil war. I mean what? Yeah, it's insanity and I just I think I think it needs

to be. I mean I don't think that I don just, I think it needs to be, I mean, I don't think that, I don't think, I think if you're taking this lightly, I don't think you understand. I think people really need to go back and look at the history of how, and how unprecedented it is to have had this attack on this building, particularly, not just on the building itself,

but with these people in it. I mean, I can't stress this enough. I know I've said it already multiple times. Things could have gone into such an even darker place yesterday than they already did. And it was very dark. I mean, we really could have had something that was like world-changing violence could have happened yesterday. And the fact that it did miss really,

I think just more luck than anything else. Really, the last time the building was breached in this manner was in 18 fucking 14. During the war of the war of 1812, the British broke in and burned it. That's how long it's been that this kind of thing, since this kind of thing has happened. And you know, and the thing that, to me, is most outrageous, most outrageous and most upsetting is to see these right wing, these mother, these neo-nazi

right wing mother fuckers. Compare, and, and, and you know, these pieces of shit, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, they're doing it today. They're trying to compare what happened yesterday with the protest that took place during the summer. And it's like, there is no comparison that exists at all between these things. You have peaceful protests of people walking down the streets, even if they smashed a fucking window of a target.

A target is not the capital building. It is not the rotunda. It is not going into Nancy Pelosi's office. I mean, we're talking about, and it's also, by the way, it's not just spray painting on the outside. If they could come by the fucking capital building and spray painted, fuck Trump on the outside of it, I can understand the comparison. You could say, wow, like, look at what they did in Seattle and look at what they did here.

You know, they carved these threats of murder into doors. Like, that's before they entered the building. They invaded the building. They threatened the lives and the safety of everybody inside of that building. It was a direct and it was and it was a driven by a direct order from the president of the United States to go and do it and and The idea that you and by the way the response Was it was a fucking pat on the back from the police essentially it was essentially a pat on the back

whereas on the back from the police essentially. It was essentially a pat on the back. Whereas on the flip side, you had 99% peaceful protesters walking through the streets with fucking banners and singing and shouting slogans. And they were violently, uh, violently dealt with by the by scores of police. They greatly outnumbered them. They were illiterate. They were illiterate. They were illiterate. They were lethal weapons. They were beaten. They were gassed. People lost their fucking eyes. I mean, I mean, it's really the violence that was done to the protesters over the summer is like shocking. And the idea that on the flip, when the actual, the actual stakes were so much higher, when literally the potentially the fate of our nation and

the leadership of our nation hung into balance, though what we did was of so soft by comparison that you would compare these two things that you would say, well, there's, I mean, it's this both side shit. It's this racist both side shit. It's like, well, you know, the leftist also protest. And it's like, yeah, dude, that's not a pro what happened yesterday is not a protest. It was an attempt at sedition. It was an attempt at an insurrection. It was a seditious attempt. It was an attempt to change the outcome of the fucking election to seat the president,

a president who was not elected as a fucking dictator in this country and to do it by force. And it's obvious that's what it was. And if they had the opportunity to do it, they would have done it. And the only thing that saved us from having to live through that is that some of the people there, some of the police and the security there acted quickly and got people away from places

where they could be threatened by this fucking mob. Because I think if they had walked into a full rotunda, I think you'd see fucking murders. And that's the only way that you can perceive this. There is no, you cannot be wishy-washy about this. You cannot say, well, they were actually there just to be fucking just to make a statement. It's like, well, okay, then anybody can go there

to make a statement, right? Then we don't give a shit if people can just fucking burst into the Senate or burst into the house and make a statement. It's like, you know what? There have to be, you know what I'm talking about, fucking law and order. There has to be law and order at especially at the highest levels of government. We have to protect the people that we put into power so they can do their jobs for us. Here's the thing.

You want to critique the US government. You want to protest the US government. You want to protest the US government. You want to call the US government fascist or that they're accused of something. Go right ahead. I'm not here to tell you that the US government is some exceptional, magical, mystical, pure, perfect institution of ethics and morals that doesn't deserve criticism. I mean, listen to the back episodes of this podcast. But no, this is not how you go about it in any circumstance.

Well, I mean, if this, if this, if these people were sent there by Joe Biden, I mean, to be very clear, if the left wing, if it, if it was the exact same situation, and by the way, this could have happened when Trump won in 2016. Nobody stormed the Capitol building and tried to prevent the fucking electoral college vote. Okay, no one violently stormed the building and went into fucking Nancy Pelosi's office and destroyed pink hats. That's what they fucking and I'm sorry. I think that that was a. That was a. There was a huge. I think there was so much more that we should have done. The idea that there is an equivalence

between anything that anyone did, post Trump's election. The level of like cult, delusion, mental illness, you need the back flips mentally, you need to do, to show some kind of equivalence between storming the capital building in an arms group of terrorists and the pink pussy at march. Yeah. And just fuck off. Yeah.

And you don't get to fucking talk. And I think Cory Booker actually said it really well. I mean, I said Cory Booker, but he said, you know, people were like, he's like, oh, yeah, people were talking about this unprecedented fraud that occurred in this election. He's like, yeah, there was unprecedented fraud. It was unprecedented when the president of the United States said, I won't accept the result of this election unless I win. When even before he the first ballot was cast, he said there was widespread fraud. I mean, the president has tried, Donald Trump has tried in every way possible to convince people with a, without a shred, without a drop, without one meaningful piece of evidence because he knew he wasn't going to win

and because he didn't win, that somehow the election, the first time ever in the history of this country, that this election was stolen from the people and he's been pushing that fucking narrative, not only pushing it in public, not only pushing it through his, his fucking yes men in the Senate and in the House, but he's been, he's tried to destroy the postal service over it. He has placed a leader after leader in positions of power to try to, uh, to try to change

laws, to try to prosecute people, to try to, uh, push for evidence to be found that doesn't exist. He literally four days ago, five days ago, there was a tape of him saying to the, to the, to the leadership in Georgia, can't you just find some votes for me? Can't you just find 11,000 votes? I mean, the fucking call is coming from inside the house more than it has ever been coming from the inside the house before. The fucking the corruption and the lies and the fucking fraud is Donald Trump. It has been him from day fucking one. He is the person who has been in charge of and responsible for lies, corruption, and fraud in this election. And he should be put on mother fucking trial and thrown into jail or fucking executed.

And I would be fine with either one of them. He is the worst. He should no longer be the president of the United States. We have two weeks to burn out. That is not a long time. But it is an infinite amount of time when you have the nuclear code. Exactly. This man, he's a deranged person with nothing left to lose. He has the nuclear codes. He has no business running this country for the next two weeks. It is clear that he doesn't know where the line is from between what is, what is proprietist and what is not.

It is clear that he doesn't care. It is clear that he is so fucking self-obsessed that he will do anything to stay in power, including but not limited to destroy democracy in America. And it's like, that's no longer like a, well, you know, just humor him. You don't he wouldn't really do that He would never cross this line that the lines crossed the line is crossed He sent his fucking his he's he sent his fucking

Brainless mentally ill troops to the capital to do just what he wanted Which is to try to steal this election for him and see him as a dictator, as a permanent dictator in America. There is absolutely no reason why he should stay in power. And if we don't see the Senate and the House do everything they can that is within their grasp to remove him, then it is a failure of our government, the likes of which we have never seen. One thing I want wanna say really quickly, as we're talking about this, we're just seeing,

I'm just seeing new reports roll in. First off, recent reports, Trump wants to has talked about pardoning himself, some kind of broad part, and he's now talking about it openly. And one of the people that was charged with running into the Capitol had a bullet-provest, had a gun with 24 rounds, a gas mask, a knife, a rations kit, a first aid kit.

Like, this is not the normal shit that you bring to a protest. You don't bring rations, you don't bring rations and pistols. We have written guides to what you bring to a protest. We have extensively researched the best what you bring to a protest. We have extensively researched the best tech to bring to a protest. None of that was on the list. Because that's what you take for a fucking bank heist. I mean, these people are fucking their criminals and their dangerous. And these are all these people, Dylan Roof, they're fucking Adam Lanza. These are these are these are mostly men There's some women there, but mostly white men who have nothing to do and know where to go and nothing to follow and want to hurt other people and it is and it is like

You know, it is it is outrageous that we would, that we've humored them for this long. They represent the worst of America. Trump represents the worst of America. And if we don't put an end to it now, if we don't really crack the fuck down on it and educate these people and get them the help they need and arrest the people who will not take the help, then we're in deep fucking shit.

I mean, honestly, I mean, it's insane. And I'm just, I've never been more depressed. You know, I really, I was happy, I was very happy that the Trump lost. And I knew that his bullshit was going somewhere bad, but it was hard to see quite how bad and quite how quickly it would get there. You know, I thought, well, he's gonna try to spin his wheels

and then, you know, the reality is, Joe Biden's gonna be sworn in, he's gonna go away. But it's clear that that it's like, you know what, I'm not a psychopath, so I can't actually understand what a person who's out of their mind and desperate will do. It's clear that we don't know the extent of what he'll do, and that alone makes me more worried about America than anything that I've seen in the last four years. Like, I don't, at this point, I don't know how far he'll go. The thing that really makes my skin crawl

on top of everything else, but I think that I can't like shake, was the video we got of that, because his idiot son, Don Jr. was live streaming, playing like dance music, and dancing around, and clapping and laughing and having the time of their lives. And they don't even feel that they need to pretend to have plausible deniability of their

involvement in this or their enjoyment of it. And that scares the shit out of me because I mean, at what point, like, I mean, and you're watching Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi condemn everything and say, we're gonna do the 25th, if we don't get the 25th amendment, we're gonna impeach. It just feels like there's no fucking consequences that these people are already arrested. That these people are being tried

for literally their crime of treason. Like, the idea that there are consequences, that to me, I think is the most, is the most troubling and problematic part of all of this. It's one thing to commit the crime. It's one thing to commit the crime. It's another thing for there to be no fear of consequences of retribution, of payback, of a price to pay

when you commit the crime. And it's like that that we will that we could possibly allow it to keep going. And not one arrest every one of these motherfuckers put all of them in jail for a long time. And to do something really meaningful, something really that has an effect with Trump, even if it's for the last two weeks, it's twenty to the men and her impeachment uh... uh... there has to be some there has to be a there has been an end to this you know and i think that the thing that troubles me most in the thing that i that i that i get to angry

so angry about it that it's like this is you know the the republican to act like this is some game and that it's all like, you know, it's all in good, all good sport, you know, both sides, there's bad, you know, bad people on both sides. And it's like, no, there's really just bad people on one side. There's neo-naughties, white supremacists and alt-right people and QN and people. And they're all out of their fucking minds. They're hateful, they're violent, they commit violent crimes,

they plot violent overthrows, they plant fucking bombs, they plot kidnappings, there's really one group. It's your group. You own it. That shit stain is on you. It's your people. And at some point, somebody somewhere, and maybe now that we have a Democrat controlled Senate and House and White House, we will start to see and house and white house. We will start to see not retribution but consequence. They have either been telling or looking the other way or winking at the idea that Democrats are responsible for a genocide of unborn babies. Kill children and drink their blood. Want sharia law, want to create death panels, are all secretly trying to bring in illegal immigrants to undermine the American economy. But you can't go around and make accusations

of that scale for as long as you have at every position of your organization. Then whenever anybody acts on what you've been telling them is reality, turn around and say, I didn't incite that. Oh, I'm Lindsey Graham. I've got some adorable story about mock-ran, although when we were shut the fuck up, you have asked for this. You've been telling them to do this. And then you have the audacity to put on the theatrics

because the ship is sinking? Really? It's unbelievable because I understand that those people are in a fucking cult. I, like, they're gonna swallow whatever shit you tell them. There are probably people who were there yesterday who are now fully convinced that it was Antifa, even though it was them. There are going to be people who are that fucking ill.

But the idea, I mean, at this point, I'm just pissed at the insult to my intelligence. Like, just if at least own, at least own, that this is the stuff you've been telling people. At least own, that you understand that the group of people was assembled for the leader of your party, who you have supported, who you've been with every step of the way.

To watch Mitt Romney act like he's so shocked at all of this, where did you think it was going? Where did you think stirring up racial tensions was going? You went to dinner with Trump multiple times. You tried to get a cabinet position. So you clearly, you didn't see a problem with everything that got us here, but now that we're here, you're upset? The audacity to hear Megan McCain has a problem with this? Really, Megan McCain?

Because you were saying for the last several days that we need to understand Trump voters, and we need to move on, and we need to start being bipartisan and reaching across the aisle, and seeing their side of things. This is their side of things. It is that they should control everything from a minority position. They should have anything that they want by any means necessary and never face consequences. And if any of that goes against, if any of those things don't happen, if they don't get every fucking thing that they want, they're going to throw a shit fit and they are arms to the teeth. And that is who they are. That is who you have created. That is the people you have collected and trained.

And you can say all you want about Antifa. You can say all you want about Black Lives Matter people burned a car. Nobody, unfortunately, nobody in the Democratic Party has asked for that. Encourage that. Wink did that. Nobody in the Democratic Party has asked for that encourage that winked at that Nobody in the Democratic Party has gone around No conspiracy theories. I mean literally if if if if if if anything if anything I want to see more of that And what happened I think that nobody is talking about police brutality enough

No, and what happens is you know we Protester smashed some target windows and Jill Biden comes out and he goes, you know Violence is never the answer And we cannot have rioters destroying our cities and I condemn this with the strongest possible I mean, it's like the opposite. It's like the opposite. It's like you go Well, you can at least go well listen. They shouldn't have smashed the target window, but I understand why they're angry You know instead they we literally have leaders on the Democratic side, condemning people for committing crimes against

a fucking chase, placard. And it's like, and like here on the flip side, we have violent, well-armed, fucking right-wing Confederate flag carrying militia men with fucking bulletproof vets on and zip tie handcuffs storm into the capital and they're like you know they mean well you know we got a people are angry people are angry yeah they're

angry said they should they should go vote if they're angry my suggestion is if you have enough angry people who are upset with the way things are and they go vote You'll get your way. It happened in 2016 90 here anybody. I didn't hear any Republicans talking about voter fraud in 2016 You know it's weird, but just for the first time ever also there's been only voter fraud in swing states and only for the specific positions which we didn't win. But everything else on those ballots was accurate. And when we want to overturn the election results in Georgia, we're going to do that the

day after Democrats just won two more elections in Georgia. Like I think the country has had a pretty clear signal that they don't agree with you and you're in the minority. You're not a silent majority, you're just allowed minority. And like, this is how it works, babe. You made us suck it up, facts don't care about our feelings, elections have consequences. The whole fucking thing. You put his name on flags, you fucking beat the shit out of people in his name. You tagged Trump one on synagogues.

Like, yeah. At some point, it's not even about hypocrisy at this point, because I don't expect, I mean, I said this to a family member who is in support of this, by the way, who thinks that this isn't that bad. I said like, at some point, at some point, you can't, the cognitive dissonance, the suspension of your own disbelief,

like you know what's happening. Like there is some level, no, you know that supporting terrorists trying to overthrow the American government, that's not a patriotic thing to do. You understand that that's treason, because this is the system as it has existed, and as much as I don't like it, it has existed this way for hundreds of years. It is the system that we use to work out our differences.

It is huge flaws, but you don't fucking blow up the capital building because you want to change election laws. And we should talk about, we need to talk about the fact that Facebook has permanently banned or has until he is no longer president and definitely and definitely. And Twitter has for 12 hours put him, I don't know, on ice. And he's been indefinitely banned from Twitch. I don't know what's going on with Twitter as he tweeted. I mean, I'm not paying attention

because I don't follow his channel. It's 12 hours from when he deletes his, well, they've been deleted. I mean, whatever, he should be banned from all social media. I mean, I'm sorry, this is just like this person is telling his supporters to march on federal buildings in injure and main people.

He's telling them to take over the US government because he doesn't like the outcome of the election. This is not discourse that belongs from a president that belongs on and doesn't need to be on social media. The reality is, if this guy had been silenced on social media six months ago, this might not have happened, you know? These people can plan and bullshit all they want. You don't get the crowds you get. You don't get big crowds,

unless you have the ability to... Brainwashing doesn't work if you can't keep it up and do it regularly and do it on a schedule and continue to use the same methods and continue to keep moving the targets and the goals. It starts to wear off when you get away from the call leader. These companies refuse to allow that to happen. I get it. You've done something, but it is the bare minimum to label something as incorrect information.

And the fact that it has gotten to almost the end of his presidency after a pandemic, after terrorist, multiple terrorists attacked at this point that he has incited or been involved with, that he even got elected based on hacks of these services and they've done nothing. Nothing. Yeah. They've slapped him on the rest.

I mean, it's, it's, I mean, at this point we're sort of like we're so beyond, I mean, we're so beyond the point where it really matters, but it is, it is at least something in these final few weeks that, that it doesn't matter. It's all for show. Everybody wants to be the good guy now. You know, Mark Zuckerberg suddenly grew a conscience. Yeah, yeah, a conscience all of a sudden, right? When the Democrats will have the power

to break up his company. You let the shit rot your service and rot people for years. And now, you suddenly really scandalized by it. It's like you weren't scandalized when a woman was fucking murdered by a neo-nazi In Charlottesville, you know you weren't scandalized when Trump said those were good people You weren't scandalized when he supported and propped up fucking neo-nazis and white supremacists all over the country and dog whistled to them and did bands on Religions in this country travel bands based on religion. I mean, you know, it it's These guys are spineless They're spineless Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg are people who have no understanding of what human beings actually

live through and have no perspective on how on history, you know, and they think they're the arbiters of free speech, but really they're the enablers. They've been billionaires since they worked in their early 20s. They think they're the arbiters of free speech, but they're enablers of bad men and they can't see it, they don't understand it, they can't even get in touch with it on a kind of fundamental level. And it's hard to like, I'm honestly sort of like, I don't know that I can even spend time talking about them because the blame is partially with them, but not really, it's not really

just with them, but not really, it's not really just with them. I mean, the reality is that the people at the highest levels of the government in this country have allowed it to happen. I mean, first off Trump is 100% the responsible party, him and his cronies, every one of his enablers. But I think even worse and more importantly, the GOP that has allowed this to blossom the Democrats, they're sorry, the Republicans that allowed this to flourish and to who promoted

it, who fed it, who nurtured it, who ignored it when it was convenient for them. I mean, those people, they need to have, there need to be consequences. The Mitch McConnell, that Mitch McConnell can stay in office as for the decades of service, service is the wrong term. The decade, the decades of damage he's done to this country, that there are no term limits that he can continue to do when he does that part of the party can gerrymandor and gerrymandor because they

know they can't win on a popular vote. And by the way, yesterday when when the Senate was arguing about the electoral college, you could hear a lot of fear in the voices of people like like Rand Paul and you know Ted Cruz and all these motherfuckers because their greatest fear Is that something pushes that we say they're they're real fear is that is that I mean some of the people who actually not sorry not Ted Cruz But some of the people who are speaking out against the objections and the of the electoral college were basically saying God Please don't let us get to a point where they want to throw out the electoral college because they know the truth Which is if this country ever moves to a point where they want to throw out the electoral college because they know the truth, which is if this country ever moves to a popular vote, it's over for them because they don't have it. They don't have the numbers. Even with all their tricks, even with their gutting of American

education, even with their voter suppression, their disinformation, their propaganda, machine, their violent attacks, even with everything, the entire weight of all of that. The American population would vote for socialism, would vote for education, would vote for free and fair elections, and for democracy, even under the enormous stress that this is put on us and our nation for decades. And they know that without all of that stuff, they don't even have a shot. And they're still just lost in a giant wave.

And the idea that we continue to have to like, that we continue to have to bend over backwards to reach, quote unquote, agreements about things like redlining. There's no agreement. We all know what we all know. Saying people understand that people should be able to go vote, that they should be able to live in communities, any community, and get a quality education that they're not gonna spend the rest of their life paying off. Like people will not stand for just the bare table stakes,

the kitchen table issues that the Republican Party stands for, let alone terrorist attacks trying to overthrow the people's house. Like if this needs to be the reckoning and the end of the modern GOP, they need to be the end of the Republican Party. They need to fracture into whatever factions they decide to form in and come up with some other alternative to present to people because this is just wildly irresponsible. If I watch to upper level Democrats try to, once Trump's gone, act like he was the problem and act like he was the core issue and act like there doesn't need to be any

huge sweeping changes to the system after this. Like Joe Biden's hand better fall off by the end of this term from signing legislation that will protect elections, that will protect people from violence and violence speech, that will ensure that marginalized communities can't have their rights ripped away by the whims of barely elected oligarchs. I mean, we gotta have some real change. The Democrats need to, the Democrats need to really like fuck it up the way the Republicans

do. You know, they need to, they need to like sign executive orders and change significant laws. I mean, and honestly, if they're really smart, they should start figuring out how they can put some protections around what the president can do and what the president can't do. Because I think like one of the things that is most striking to me about this whole thing

is that it's very clear that we don't really have much that we can tell the president that he can't do You know here she can't do history at act post Obama expanding patriotic powers like yeah What do you what do you do? It's well? I mean, I think I think you know, that's the question I mean, it's also, you know, we haven't talked about the courts at all. I mean this is a whole other thing and frankly I'm exhausted just from thinking about talking about it I don't mean we should probably wrap up soon, but like I just want to say, you know, the court packing, you know, we were all up in arms that Trump has nominated three separate ultra conservative justices to the Supreme Court.

There is, I mean, there have already been so many laws passed that are, that, that just completely are chipping away at the progressive America that we thought we, that most people I think thought and expected to be living in. I mean, we really are like, it's really just a dangerous time. We need some significant, we need a significant push in the other direction. And we need to like find some way to show people there is something beyond whatever this little world they're living in where they want they think they're embattled with the government and that they've got a fight and that they've got a you know race into the capital with

their fucking body armor on we need to give people something else to do with their time. I mean to me more than anything there's like a really like a problem in this country that so many people have so much fucking time to tend to a hobby which is simply just conspiracy theory. You know? Like, get it? I mean, go, go like fucking for a jog or something. Like, we just need people need to like do something that is not spending all day on a social media network being lied to by other people. Like, that's not a job. It's not a hobby.

It's a sickness. Actually, Grace Spellman has this huge list that she made. She does a podcast, a wringer podcast, and she has this huge list that she made of people talking about how their families have deserted them because of Q and there's a whole subreddit called and and Maggash's yeah and it's just people have destroyed their lives over this it's crazy. It's like we need to get them mental we need to get them like deep program it's deep programming they need to get deep program they need to get

real help like for their mental health issues. There's something really wrong in this country and it's not just because it's not just that Trump, it's like talks a good game. It's that people are hurting and I'm not weeping for these people, but there's something wrong with them. There's something wrong that they want to believe this stuff and that they spend as much time. I mean, I can't imagine spending this much time doing almost anything. These people are like, my job is to be a fucking seditionist.

My job is to look at high coupos, I'm supposed to do on a random anonymous internet form, and decide what day the numerology presented in these letters means I should go blow up the capital building. That's what they're up to right now. It's crazy. Anyhow, we should wrap up because it's very depressing topic and I don't really have, I have nothing else. I can say it's supposedly this virtual CES next week.

So maybe that'll give us something to talk about. But for now, I think it's like like we leave America in a very dark place and who knows if we'll even be allowed to podcast next week. This could be it for us. Do you have anything nice that's ever happened in the next few years? Oh my God. You're bad. Take my nice things now.

I'm nice. Oh my God. We even talk about Christmas. I had a wonderful Christmas and Hanukkah, and Hanukkah break. Zalda got a lot of cool gifts. She's now, she can now hoverboard. I got her a hoverboard. She hit us with this thing like right before Christmas,

like right before we went on break, she was like, I have a letter to Santa, and it's like I have Santa for a hoverboard. I'm like, you've literally never talked about it, even made mention of the existence of hoverboards. Anyhow, we got her hoverboard and now it's like she's like this weird like cyberpunk kid who just like it's just like cruiser out of the house on a high for board that has like LED lights and a speaker built in. So it's completely outrageous. Oh my god. No, it's shit's gotten really crazy. It's a it's a wild time over here

at the at the Polsky household. We also got a bone arrow set for Hanukkah for her, and I got one too, so we're taking a baritory. So I'm like Norman Reedus now from the Walking Dead. So that's pretty cool. And yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I would have had a lot of nice things if the yesterday hadn't happened.

That's how I feel. Too many nice things. I we painted our apartment, and I have to say it is you have to you just have to paint wherever you paint. What did you paint? What color? Multiple colors. So our living room is pale pink. Our bedroom is dark blue. Our kitchen is green. You like went all out. The bathroom is light blue. I mean, I I really believe, listen, the security deposit, if you don't have the time to repaint before you leave,

it think of it as a personality fee. It is as Amy Siddaris famously says. It makes me feel at home so much more, it makes me feel so much more, like everything's pulled together, it makes me feel more adult, it makes the feel so much more, like everything's pulled together, it makes me feel more adult. It makes it a whole place cleaner and happier. I just, we debated for a long time, whether it was worth the time in the money when we know that we're probably only going to be here for two or three years, but it is worth it. And we're almost done and it feels so good.

And honestly, having a space that I don't hate being in has made a lot of the, like, last few days and the last few months, even at my old apartment was a space that I preferred being into the first place I was in. It makes a huge difference because, like, the drain on your emotional psychological state is, like, super real. And I, you yeah, I you know I really needed the Christmas break when it came around and you know I've woken up every day stressed and exhausted

Even the days when we got good news and so to have somewhere to be Stress and exhausted that doesn't make me more stressed and exhausted is is great And so I guess my nice thing is like take some time to spruce up even if you clean up your living room. Paint the walls. Paint the walls. I mean, I'm with you. I agree. I think a new coat of paint can do wonders for your brain.

Yep. Alright, let's get out of here. Bye. Bye. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow and as always I wish you and your family the very best. Unless your family is one of the horrible people who storm the capital in which case they can burn and hell.

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