Tomorrow - 223: CESedition

Episode Date: January 17, 2021

It's CES week and our president is trying to end democracy in the largest democracy on earth, so that's not cool! There are also some nice laptops coming out. Ryan and Josh spend a lot of this episode fretting about the state of the earth and then nerding out over video games. Even as the empire crumbles, Tomorrow is here to stay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Wittipolsky. Today on the podcast we discuss insurrection, sedition, and the new ASUS laptops. I don't always one minute. Let's get ready. Oh Ryan, we're back. Stop the steel. Patriots to the front of the line. We're back to stop the steal. We'll do it. We're back to stop the steal. Listen, what's happened in the last week? And I got to say, I think we got to get, we got to start on the capital and do a violent insurrection. I have, look, I've reviewed the notes. I've looked at the transcripts. I have the receipts. the notes, I've looked at the transcripts, I have the receipts, and there's really no other way to get America back on track, but a violent overthrow of the government. I'm sorry.

It is what it is, as my president Donald Trump says. God, if any of this is ever taken out of context, that's it for me. It's curtain.'s Josh. If I've got the daily beast on the line. Oh my God, no a shak-t-man is gonna fuck me over. Any half you don't know, that's the end of their in chief of the daily beast, I believe. I'm not sure you pronounce a name like that, might be Shak-t-man. Maybe there's a silent name.

In any event. So listen, we're coming off of, we're in week two of 2021. It's the ES. It's the ES. You wouldn't know it. You wouldn't know. No, somebody released a laptop with several screens. So it's, you know, there's some new TVs.

You know, it is the ES week. I mean, we have an interesting moment in time. This is, I will say this, and I think, I think you will be able to quote me on this in the future. We have a influx of a confluence of events occurring that I believe is a once in a lifetime. I hope is once in a lifetime moment, which is, it is early January, which is typically when the consumer

electronic show takes place in Las Vegas. We are all currently living in a, essentially like a kind of lockdown. I mean, we should be in a lockdown over a pandemic that is raging across the world, especially in America. Maybe in America is number one in people catching and dying from coronavirus. And we have a new president incoming. We have an old president who has just recently attempted, literally attempted a violent overthrow of the government. Excuse me. And anyhow, all of this is happening at the same time.

And so I think that, and now we have an inauguration that's going to happen in a few days, six days from now, we're recording this on the 14th, where there are more troops in DC to defend our, to defend our incoming president and his, his people and the people of DC against violent insurrectionists that are led by our outgoing president who has just, oh, I forgot, was yesterday impeached for the second time, which is the first time in the history of America that a president has been impeached twice. In one term, astonishing work to everybody. Yeah, great work. I mean, really well done.

But I just want to say, but also at this moment, I think what is unique is that the people, Asus is like, we have a new 17-inch laptop with a G-Force graphics card in it. It's like, okay, I feel like it's not really the time. I mean, I definitely got a lot of CBD for dogs, style pitches, where I'm just like, guys, like read the room. Like, nobody's telling you not to make your product, just read the room on the pitch.

CBD for humans, okay. We don't even have, we don't even have healthcare for people. We're gonna cook it up well, this shit. For dogs, speaking of healthcare care I was just reading about this some guy this new congress so I'm reading all about the new congress people because why would you do that because because well because you know now we have to actually think about before like congress people were they were always a little

like loony you know you don't know I will say just like on both sides of the aisle congress people there's like kind of a lower bar to become a Congress person. I mean, remember when Marco Rubio was like the craziest person, you know, I mean, to be remembered, she get a seat in the house of her, I mean, to get a seat in the house. We're gonna see the days of, I'm not a witch.

Like, we've been through things that we thought were crazy and it's like, it's that gift from RuPaul Stradgrace where it's like, you wanna see crazy? I'll show you crazy. The incoming group of people are, Grace where it's like, you wanna see crazy, I'll show you crazy. The incoming group of people are, I mean, they include what? Like a Satanist conspiracy theories.

Yeah, I would just say like, like in terms of the Congress, the lower house seats, the house of representatives is just a little bit, the bars a little bit, it's a little bit lower, okay? There's a lot more of them, right? There's like 435 or something people in the House of Representatives. So we, so you always have some percentage of those people who are

like kind of bachelors crazy, right? But now it's like there's a whole chunk of people in the House of Representatives that aren't just like, I'm not just like learning like, oh, they hold views that I find to be weird or distasteful or unusual. They're like, why can't I carry my glock onto the floor of the house? Like, it's not like they don't believe the moon landing. They believe they need to take a gun

to the floor of the house where an armed insurrection just happened because if they don't, their colleagues will continue their collection of children to scare the children to take a chemical called adrenal chrome out of their blood to drink it so they can stay young and in power forever. That is what elected officials,

who, I mean, they're not wrong to be clean. Who represent us on the world stage, believe. Yeah. No, that's 100 but first off, what you just described is 100% medically accurate and truthful. That is occurring in the highest levels. It's not more accurate.

Believe me, I would be doing a Dorena Chrome treatment. In a heartbeat. I'm ready to get you. I'm ready. I'm ready to, you know what? It's like, you know, click on Wayfair, get my $12,000 war drob, ship to me, my $12,000 footlocker, ship to me, containing several children.

At any rate, but these people, but what I just said, the people, and what you just said, the people, there are people, many of them now, in the House of Representatives that believe that shit and are like, okay, and also, I need to be armed on the floor. And these are people who, also, by the way, there are now rumors and possibly some evidence that members of the government were bringing people in and helping them to canvas the capital building so that they could have a better, clear line of attack. I mean, there are literal conspirators, like actual members, potentially, we don't know all the details yet, of a conspiracy from the president on down

to literally violently overthrow the government. And this is like not, like I wish what I was saying was like, oh my God, you know, wow, the lips, you know what, the lips have truly been owned, like listen to these crazies, this is not like owning the lips kind of stuff. This is like actually has happened. It actually, this is a real thing that has occurred

in America, okay? We are on the precipice of something either very awful or a correction, right? And I don't know. But the point is, there's a lot of crazy new politicians, but also, there's a new ASIS laptop with three screens, which I'm very excited about. So anyhow, I just, it's a crazy moment in time when nothing really makes a lot of sense. It's like we're supposed to try to be normal, right? We're supposed to be like,

hey, yes, enough fun, you know, crazy gadgets. Like a normal year, last year at this time, we were in Las Vegas, it's crazy to think about. We were in Las Vegas, we were wearing matching jumpsuits and we were walking around the floor, finding weird gadgets and talking about them, and it seems like a lifetime ago. It seems like so long ago, it's one year.

But it's hard to really to encapsulate how much is changed in our life, and how much is currently in our life and how much is it currently just wildly in flux like like we're just there's nothing normal about this moment and and there's nothing I mean army hammer is accountable army hammer is now being accused of of being a rapist and a cannibal or something being a bad guy I don't know all the details. Like of course, allegedly, I thought Army Hammer

was a soft-spoken, nice guy. He's admitted to multiple rapes in text messages. He's admit, okay, but there's not like, but like, people say all kinds of crazy things, text messages, I'm not saying that he hasn't. Oh, well, I'm saying the women accused him and then showed text messages where he admitted it in the text message.

I mean, that's not good. That's not a good look for him. But we don't know if he's eating human flesh. We do know he's eating a bunch of animals that he killed with his bare hands and that he fantasizes a lot about eating women. I mean, I'm talking cannibal cop style, looking up recipes.

He literally is like, by the way, Boston has a a great boston one of my fair websites on the internet did a story on army hammer being like You know my my kink is I'm a cannibal and like the responses to it are truly incredible And I recommend everybody follows boston on twitter, but anyhow Um, yeah, so it's an upside down time, you know army hammer supposed to be a completely uninteresting actor, right? He's supposed to be like a regular, he's like, oh, is that Jamie Dornin? No, that's Army Hammer, like whatever, right?

He's supposed to be the least controversial person to come out of the social network. It makes you wonder, it makes you wonder if Jamie Dornin is hiding something. Doesn't it? You know what? Like all the guys, like what's some, what's Superman, Henry Cavill?

What's he hiding? Cause I think that like, Army Hammer and Henry Cavill and Jamie Dornin are relatively interchangeable. Mm-hmm. I mean, am I wrong? I would say here's the thing. To our British, to our British.

And I would say the differences Army Hammer's parents are oil billionaires. And so his entire life has been within like a bubble of being a very tall, good looking movie star and billionaire. And I do think that that definitely does stuff to your brain. And I'm not going to say all of those people are cannibals, but I would, who Army Hammer?

I would say it's a non-zero chance. He's from the Cayman Islands. He's from the arm and hammer family. I actually crazy they called him army hammer when there's a brand called arm and hammer. Yeah. By the way, I'm looking at pictures. There are many pictures of, first off,

there are lots of pictures of Jamie Dorn and army hammer and I'm not sure why. I do find, oh, and there's also, and then there's pictures of a Henry Cavaln, Jamie Dorn. I do find the, oh, and there's also, and then there's pictures of Henry Cavill and Jamie Dorn. I do find these men to be relatively indistinguishable from one another. They're like good looking white guys. Yeah, I mean, it's like the Chris's.

Yeah, they're like the Chris's, but they're like a more chiseled version of the Chris's. The Chris's looks soft by comparison to the, I mean, Army Hammer looks like he could snap next, and which is probably how he got to short, you know. I mean, we don't know, but at any rate, so the man is, you know, he's being accused of very good. Let's just say he's gotta return some videotapes.

Well, is that part of Q? Is that a Q thing? Some from American Psycho. If anybody's gonna be part of Q, a guy like Army Hammer is gonna be a Q adherent. In American Psycho, every time he needs to leave somewhere, he says, I have to go return some videotapes. That's good, that's very good.

And any rate, so there's a lot of shit going on in the world, a lot of nasty shit happening. And you know, I don't even know what to say anymore. I don't know what to say to people. Um, I don't know, I don't know if, you know, are we gonna bounce back from this? I'm not sure. Up, side down, bouncing off the ceiling.

It's an S-club seven moment. You want to escape, but then you're like, where could I possibly go where these people aren't around? You know, you're like, well, I'll go to France. Now France is full of neo-nautsies. You're like, maybe I'll go to England. Nope, nope. Oh, you know, the only place you really could probably maybe would be okay is Canada. But I think Canada also has some like weirdness. No, they've got some bad shit happening with their right wing party. Like, they've got a lot of like Canada first, like Ted Cruz hangs out with them. Oh,

no. A lot. Ed Fondre is not can. Yeah. I mean, I got to tell you, and this is all due respect to the Canadians. Canada second. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You need to just recognize, you know, your place. Recognize your place in the world order. But I don't know. So anyhow, so you know your place Recognize your place in the world order But I don't know so anyhow, so you know like I want Oh the other thing that I think is interesting That I spend a lot of time. I mean it's all interesting It's all very interesting. I mean if you could just step back in a dispassionate manner and look at it It's extremely oh, oh, that's what my grandma by the way

That's what my grandma calls everything that at bad news. Now, she's no longer saying bad news. She's no longer saying scary. Her new thing, and I think this is very wise, is she goes, I'm going to be dead before this resolves. So as much as I can see, it's very interesting. And I say good for her. I think that's great. I think that's great if you have some guarantee of being deceased by the time any of this stuff really comes to fruition. I unfortunately do not have that luxury. No. And I also have a daughter.

And so I'm kind of like, it's very on my mind like, I'm not claiming any special treatment because I have a daughter. But you know, you think about the future more. I think about the fact that the world, my personal physical body, and probably my lifestyle have all peaked. You know what I mean?

Like, I've already, everything in my life will now get worse. Did you say your personal physical body has been to you? Yeah, everything in my life will now get worse. And I'm trying to come to terms with that. You ain't wrong. You ain't wrong. But I think the thing is like, like what I think about a lot,

you know a lot is in the day to day, like these people who storm to the Capitol, these these these really ugly, and I mean ugly, I don't mean ugly like physically, or I do. Yeah.

Okay, fine. Ugly ugly, like just spiritually ugly, like. But ugly, ugly, like just spiritually ugly, like it's philosophically ugly, whatever you want to call it. Do you see that quote from Trump behind the scenes that he was like, I don't know class, I don't know like a low class,

but I like actually one of the, I think one of the, I know that that's a, I can tell that's a true statement because it's exactly the kind of thing that Trump would say during a fucking coup attempt. He'd be like, I don't like the looks of this, they look low class.

They look like, why didn't they apologize? He's not like, I don't like the fact that they're storming the Capitol and threatening to hang my vice president. He liked, he liked, he liked. He's like, where's the cup lengths? Why can't they just get pants that fit? You know, why can't he get pants that fit? That was a real question. So anyhow, so so So anyhow, but getting to getting back to my point

I can't help but think and a lot of these people so what we were learning about a lot of these people is they're like middle class upper middle class and Beyond their people who flew some of them took private jets to go to the riot. There's a guy who got arrested with the podium. He's like a father of five and his wife is a physician. Okay? His wife is a doctor. Imagine the torture this woman is going through.

I would be surprised to discover that they are not at odds on pretty much everything that that guy believes. She's a doctor or not surprised. And they have small kids together and he was the stay at home parent. And now he's in jail. So that's the fact that well actually he's out on bail, but that's beside the point. Okay. The the what is it? The what did that guy think? This is what I want to know these are people who are actually living pretty well What does that guy think what is his grievance like what is happening to him like I think it is so Fuck the thing to me that as actually I find most when I revisit this when I think about it

that I find most Obsiding is that these people actually don't have a fucking grievance. Like their grievance is an invention of a demented outgoing president desperate to hold on to power. Their grievance is the election was stolen. There is no evidence. I know they're in a wash and a sea of lies, but let's bring it to our reality for a second,

which is the reality. There's no evidence. It's obvious that he lost. He admits that he lost. He's leaving in seven days. Like overthrowing the government is such an outsized reaction. Even if you think your guy should have won, okay? There has been a zero scrap, not one fucking piece of evidence in states

held by Republicans in states where the legislature and the electoral, all of the electoral politicians are Republicans, some appointed by Trump himself have been like, this is, this did not happen. So their grievance, their one real grievance is a lie with no evidence, spouted for months now by a president, by a loser lame duck, fucking president. And that is their, that's their trigger point to fucking try to overthrow the government, these middle class, upper middle class people, with just basically too much time on their hands. And then you've got the next tier down of these, I mean, basically you have these white people who feel,

what, I don't know that their country's slipping away from them because they're not, they don't only see white people on TV now. They feel, they're threat to white supremacy. So, but there's regular white people who feel that way, who are the people who are grieved to stop the steel of soccer moms, right? The guy with the podium. Then one level down from that, there's these like white supremacists,

the three percenters, the proud boys, the, I don't know, all the, they're all have dumb names. They're like, they sound like a fucking call of duty, you know, gang or whatever. And those people are just like, we hate black people, we hate Jews, we want this to be a white Christian nation. And I do believe that is a very small percentage of the overall Trump supporter base as these people who are legitimately like,

I'm a neo-Nazi, you know, wearing the camp outfit shirt. I think that like there is a lot of those, I mean, all of those people are Trump supporters, but in the grand scheme of Republicans, most Republicans aren't outwardly like fuck Jews. I hate black people. Let's have a white nation state. They're like, I don't want, you know, I don't want to like shop near them. I don't want to have to talk to them, but like they're not going to really say it out loud. Um, then there's those people and their grievances, we want to, we want America to be a fascist dictatorship run by like a Hitler-like figure. And then I don't know what there's like the Q people who just have brainworms.

And their grievances that like there's like people are drinking the blood of babies, which is like literally like the Q story is like anti-Semitism really. It's like, it's like new world order, George Soros drinking the blood of the first born. It's literally like biblical allegory anti-Semitism. But these people are all like just the biggest fucking losers. You know, just massive fucking losers. I don't think they're representative of America. And I think that like, we have to find some way not to reach them, not to reach them. We have to find some way to shut them the fuck down. Like their problem is not that they need to be. I mean, I would have told you a few weeks ago, in fact, I was talking about like,

we need to educate these people. We need to like tell them what that this shit is wrong. I think we've reached the point where cutting them off from communication, cutting them off from their ideas being even remotely entertained as acceptable, making them feel ashamed and unable to go places and behave the way they do. Basically like treating them like petulant children, and you're taking away their toys and telling them they have a time

out, maybe the only way to actually address these people at this point, because it's clear that like in the face of all information available, they will choose the most ignorant, most wrong-headed thing, because it feels good to them in the way that like a baby getting a bottle feels good. You know, and it's like, I just, I think so, so on that note, we've seen in the past week Twitter band Trump, Facebook, I mean, effectively band him. I don't know if he'll be back, but he's been shut out of Facebook. YouTube gave him a strike. He's down for a week there.

Parlor has been shut down, basically effectively shut down the app that was only really used for right-wing militia organizing. Many Q and hardcore right-wing accounts have been purged from Twitter and Facebook, I believe as well, I don't know how much Facebook is actually doing. But there is a ton of ad dollars, a ton of corporations that typically support Republicans who have said we're pulling our money. I really think that like the only way to make progress at this point is to shut these people down, financially shut them down, shut them down from a communication standpoint,

and to no longer even remotely entertain, which is why the Congress people are so troubling, but to not remotely entertain these notions, these utterly baseless and insane notions that they have about the country, because we have been thrown so far off course and it's for absolutely zero reason. When I go and think about the grievances, there are no real grievances. There is no real thing that's happening. What's real is like we've actually hurt a lot of people in this country who need our help. We've really hurt people who need our help

because we've been appeasing these people and listening to them and because we've had a completely corrupt president like Trump. But like, they don't have a real grievance. If your grievance is like, you don't like immigrants in your country, then go to another fucking country. This is a country of immigrants. It's a country built by immigrants.

It is a country that would not exist without immigrants. And so it's like, it's like you're probably a fucking immigrant, you know? There's very low, low chance that you're like, you know, I mean, no, even the first fucking white person here was an immigrant. Like I don't even know what to say. It's like, anyhow, the point is like, what, this is, I'll finish this point then we can talk about ACEs as new laptops. What is so obnoxious to me is you couldn't find

a legitimate grievance amongst 100,000 of these people. You know, they got everything they wanted from Trump, but what they really want is not realistic and is not compatible with modern society. It's like Neanderthal society shit. It's like person with the club kind of shit, you know? And I just don't, I don't, we cannot humor these fuckers anymore.

Like we just can't. They cannot be humored. Because if you humor them, it lets them breed. And you know, like the breeding of this thought has led to very, very sick people. You know, look, I'm saying not the actual children, but we've let their ideas breed and propagate. And I think the end result has been very destructive

for this country. And we have to, we have to, you know, we have to vaccinate this country against their stupidity. So for me, I feel like, I think it is enormous progress that the president has been deplatformed by Snapchat and Twitter and Facebook and everybody else.

I think that that's a very good thing. I think Salesforce saying you can't send out fundraising emails. That's, well, that shit's the best. Salesforce and Shopify being like, we're not going to let you make money on our platforms. That's really where it's going to hurt. The reason that this is so important is, and it's not that I don't think these companies should be broken up. They should absolutely be broken up. It's not that I don't think that these companies shouldn't have the government take away

their ability to choose who shouldn't, shouldn't have an account. Like I do understand and I have long supported the idea that like we need to break up these social media monopolies because nobody should have that much power. I think that that's true. But at the moment, because of Republicans, because of the right wing, because of Nazis, and the way that they view, quote unquote, the economy or whatever, even if they're just reactionaries and they don't have, like, actually believe the things they're saying about the free market or whatever bullshit, which I think is a huge chunk of them.

I don't, I think the number of people who truly believe the Anne Rand, like, survival of the fittest, stuff, dogma is the best way for the whole world and everything in the world to function. I think that that's diminished from the mid-2000s and I do think it's smaller and smaller all the time. I think the nonsensicalness of that is just so apparent and it's so easily explained. Obviously, that argument continues to be very useful for people to survive on the fittest.

Not this rival of the fittest, yes, the hand of the free market, the deregulation, trickle down economics. That whole thing. Might make right. Yeah, I think that obviously has diminished. It's still a useful argument for people in power to employ, but I don't think that that's where it's coming from. I think that we need to break up these companies. I think that now I'm glad to Republican suddenly agree. But the reason that this is so important

isn't because I'm glad that this is the state of affairs. It's that over the course of like 30 or 40 years, this country has given really all meaningful power in any respect to corporations. We made them into legally people. We let them use their money to influence elections. We let them use their money to bribe politicians pretty blatantly and legally. We've given all power in this nation to corporations. And although I hate that this is the mechanism through which we're getting some level of control over the president, if at the moment the way to rein in the immediate emergency

is through corporate power, saying like, we're not gonna donate to someone that's trying to overthrow the government because it's bad for business, or Twitter saying, we're not gonna let you say Nazi stuff anymore because it's bad for business. If that has to be the mechanism, well, thank God something happened, and we need to change the system

with this small window of opportunity. When we have control of the government, when we have some people on our side, when we have political motivation, now is the time after we get him out of office to say, what can we do so that this cannot happen again? What can we do so that we don't need Walmart and Twitter and Facebook and Microsoft and Apple and Amazon to all agree on something in order to create any meaningful political action around it. We had a summer where huge swaths of the population

were burning down cities in a desperate attempt to be heard on one issue about funding, about funding for police officers, and nothing got done. There has been no meaningful changes, no meaningful policy shifts, nothing is getting done. And I would say, you know, if Walmart and Amazon and Verizon decided that they cared about Black Lives Matter,

the issue would be dealt with. And we're seeing that in the fact that the Trump administration, Mitch McConnell is turning on Trump. There's a huge, huge chance that he will be removed from office and there will be some sort of criminal consequences. Oh, Trump for Trump. For Trump. I tell you, I've been from Mitch McConnell. Oh, no, my god. No shit. That man never happened. He lives in a beautiful city floating in the sky for only the rich, Muthusela. Yes, it's him and Baron Harkona. So what I'm saying is, is it clear that this is how this happened?

Of course not. I don't want to live in a world where Coca-Cola has more voting power than all the mothers in the Tri-State area. Like, I don't want to live in that world. However, that's where we live. And so if this is like, thank God something happened. Thank God somebody stepped in. I agree that this like is a bad state of affairs and none of us should be thrilled with the

fact that Twitter can unilaterally make these decisions. But the reason to be pissed that Twitter unilaterally makes decisions is not that they took Trump down. It's that they left him up for as long as they left him up. They didn't take him down until it was so bad. We could have so much, there could have been so much pain that has that would have been alleviated had Twitter and Facebook and other websites taken aggressive action on this before it fomented to a place where there was a coup I mean to be clear without

Trump on Twitter and Facebook it's highly likely that a lot of this online drum beating that he has done, this online recruitment would not have worked. It just would not have happened, you know. It's possible that the podium guy might have remained a cookie father of five and not been radicalized by lies and president was telling us. But I will say a cookie father of five or whatever who is also a racist I do think that of course I'm not you know you off the hook totally totally I just want to get it out there because I understand that the people people's common response to what you're saying is to invalidate what you're saying by saying no this is who we always are and that's true both Both things are true. We have a powerful, but there's a difference between a racist

and an active, tries to overthrow the government and a racist who just sucks, right? Most, most racists, and there are lots of them, are just like all racist on a very local level. You know what I mean? Like they're not publicly like,

they're not movement. There's a difference between having a racist guy in your block and having the KKK in your neighborhood. But so you may say like, you may say, well, I don't like black people, okay, which is what racist say. I presume they wake up at the board and they're like, I don't like black people. And then they say, who has this time? So, I don't know.

I mean, that's actually what I was saying about how there's like, there is no grievance. It's like, what do you mad about, dude? Like, just go do something else. Like, get a fucking hobby. It's like, your hobby is hate. Your hobby is being mad. Like, you need a fucking hobby. And a mad that some people are brown.

I don't know. I don't know. It's so bizarre. It is like, I understand that you think you gain something if they don't, but it's like, it's such a bizarre notion that you are like bothered by the color, the shade of someone's skin or their culture that they come from. It's like, why do you give a shit?

Why is this even a fucking conversation? Yeah, I don't want to blow your mind, but German culture is not too great. So, I mean, honestly, no, I've said this before, but white Christian culture is the most boring, the least contributive to like just like culture culture in popular culture. Let's be honest. Except for talent. Well, Italians are, I mean, there's a whole, that's a whole, I mean,

are Italians even really white, you know? Yeah. At any rate, the, the, what the hell is they saying? So, goddammit, what was I talking about? Just fuck. No, wait, but yes, I agree, but what I was saying is, think about how much pain and suffering could have been alleviated. Have these platforms had the backbone to just say,

you know what, I just don't want it on here. I just don't want to support this. I don't want to let this guy spread his lies. I don't want to have to put a label on it every time he lies. I don't want to put a label on it. I just want it to not be there. And I'm going to, I have the power to do that, you know? I have the power to make it so.

And so the, the, so, so, so I, I do think like we should not forget that there was an opportunity for accountability from these people to make these people accountable. There was an opportunity and they didn't take it. Okay. And so we paid for it. The seditious act that we saw last week was part of the payment that was exacted for not taking action.

But I will say this to your point about the power these platforms have, I agree with you like it shouldn't be up to them to make our we shouldn't rely we shouldn't be waiting on Google and Facebook and Twitter to improve the lives of Americans by shutting down hate speech and racism like that should not be their job. But we are a country that is obsessed with capitalism and obsessed with profit and obsessed with money making and obsessed with businesses. And we do let businesses often dictate, I mean, think about the union battles in this country.

Think about the purpose of a union. I mean, there are many other countries that have, and I'm not saying unions don't exist in other countries, they do, of course. But think about the things that unions fight for in this country that other countries don't, this is not even, you know, it's like healthcare, it's a crazy one, right? Like, it is just widely accepted that in developed nations,

you support your citizenry by helping them have healthcare so they can be healthy and get medical care. to support your citizenry by helping them have health care so they can be healthy and get medical care. And it's not a part of their daily worry in life that will look like it's sick. It's a common good. Not everybody wins. But truly, all of society wins

if we treat people as health care in the cheapest, most efficient way possible so that they can work hard, they can continue to quote unquote, consume if that's your fucking thing. But also so that they're innovative, so that they can work hard, they can continue to quote unquote consume if that's your fucking thing. But also so that they're innovative, so that they're helpful, so that they're productive, vibrant society. Everyone who's making money should be making money at something that contributes to society

and contributes to people living better lives. And health insurance companies do not do that. But also it's crazy. I mean, there's also this crazy thing that, I mean, we just had, we just changed the insurance at our company and so I, you know, went through the process of going nightmare. No, but like, but like, here's the thing that I was thinking

about while I was doing it. I was like, it's so weird that like, my company has anything to do, you know, and we have, our insurance is fine, whatever, like it seems to be getting the job done. But like, but the fact that it's even a question about like, why is my company on the hook for dealing with my insurance? It kind of doesn't make any sense. My like health and well-being is only

howling has a fractional like association with my work at the company. You know, and it's like- Certain things are better organized though more people that are in them. And yes, the unions is there an example, but other things like roads, it's best if the whole country agrees on what we're gonna do with roads,

what the language of road signs is gonna be, is universal, the rules are pretty close to universal. We have a universal understanding of roads look like, the size that they should be, the size of the road that we're gonna ride on. If we all work together, it's way better than if we have competing systems. That's not true of everything,

but it is definitely true of certain things. And something like roads, it can't be farmed out to private companies, it doesn't functionally work, we tried it. Healthcare's the same way. If there's no reason that I should go, I should have to tell my co-workers, hey, how did you do this?

Because I need to get treated in this private way for a thing that's like a society-wide problem. Like, there is no reason that mental health in this country shouldn't be as streamlined, accessible, as easy to handle and deal with, as possible. It's best for everyone. Nobody chooses to be mentally ill. It's not something that you've wound or not-

Speak for yourself. Speak for yourself. I've made a decision. I've made a decision. I've wound or not earned. It's a danger to yourself. I just think we could, and I think like this almost kind of leads back into,

it's like firefighters. It's better in my house isn't on fire for everybody. Right, and I think this leads back to that question about the grievances and to what people feel like they're losing or gaining. I do feel like it's like, listen, you don't like trans people? Like, okay, it's totally your right to not be comfortable with trans people.

Like you can feel, if that's how you feel and you just can't get over it, that's fine. But it's also okay for them to exist. Like you don't have to, it's not a legal to be a racist. It's a legal to you, for you to let that racism motivate you to make someone's life more difficult. Right, so what's complicated? And so what's the, and so what is it?

What are you trying to get to? You want people to be more like you? Why? Like, what is the point here? Like, why can't we just... I know it seems so simple to say it, but like, why can't we just chill the fuck out? Like, things could be really good if you let them.

Things could be great, actually. The world is in such a wonderful position right now. And all you need to do, all you need to do is we're not in the middle of a world war. We're not even in the middle of an ideological war, Actually, the world is in a wonderful position right now. And all you need to do, all you need to do is, we're not in the middle of a world war. We're not even in the middle of an ideological war, to be honest with you. We're not talking about ideology.

You think taxes should be lower. I think taxes should pay for things like healthcare. Okay, that's a completely reasonable debate we can have. We have enough food to feed everyone. We have the tools ahead of us and the knowledge and the understanding of how to stop climate change and reverse it. We have the ability to, within us, to vaccinate the whole world and cure COVID-19. All of our problems, we have the solutions to them. The only thing standing in the way is fucking idiocy and lack of education,

lack of mental health care support. And I think that actors taking advantage. And I think lack of, I think most importantly, I love to raving leftist lunatics like us, but I think most importantly, lack of empathy, lack of empathy, which I think at the core of all is it. I don't mean like, hey liberals, be more empathetic to the conservatives who ransacked the Capitol.

I mean, like, you don't have to hate, you just don't have to hate as much as you do. It doesn't actually do anything for you. Someone can get something else and you can get that same thing too. It's not either or, right? Have your jobs been shipped overseas? Yes, but not because of Mexican immigrants. Your jobs have been shipped overseas because corporations who are really the thing that you should be mad about, corporations and their power have found a more profitable way to make their goods, okay?

And like, yes, politicians help them do it. Some of them were Democrats, some of them were Republicans. I guarantee you that if you focused your energies on saying, I wanna bring jobs back to America, how do we do it? And put pressure on your politicians about that, you will see more upside than if you say, I think the election was stolen,

I wanna ransack the government and over and fucking hang Nancy Pelosi. There really is, that's really not what you want. It's not what you're trying to get. I think people think that like, there's something there, there's a there, there, and there isn't, it's just rage, okay? And the rage is built on,

I mean, partially it's built from, of course, these preconceived notions that we have. And of course, it's built on stereotypes and it's built on feedback, like, you know, networks that are giving us bad information. But it's also built on the wedge, the wedge into breaking misinformation, and the wedge into breaking hatred is empathy, just even a tiny little bit of just going, what is this person, who is this person, what do they feel like, and what would I feel

like in their situation? And like, and like, and I think that we have tried, I think globally we've tried very hard for conservatives, for people who have you, who are Trump supporters and conservatives to say, okay, what? What can I do? What can we do here? What is our, how do, what is the vector by which we can understand what you need and try to give it to you? You know, we can read, we can all read fucking Hillbilly, LG, LG till we're blue in the face. The reality is like, there needs to be a shared LG LG till we're blue in the face. The reality is like there needs to be a shared empathy. There needs to be some idea that there were like we're not that different and that there are things that that you can envision in other people, situations, even if you, even if you fucking hate

trans people, okay? Again, even if you hate black people, just a little shred of empathy to say, well, what would it be like if I were them? You don't have to like them after that. You don't have to want to be them after that But you could at least start to see Maybe it's not that different from where you are and maybe and so like the thing is that when I look at all of this stuff And I look what's going on in the world. I just think like we are actually potentially at a moment and have been for like 12 fucking years where it's like things actually have gotten could be pretty good if we want it. Like things could actually be really great. We could put pressure to your point about the corporations. We should be putting pressure on Amazon and on Google and on Microsoft and on Twitter and on whoever

Apple and whoever else to be better to the citizenry that keeps them in business, right? To be better to their employees, to be better to the citizenry that keeps them in business, right? To be better to their employees, to be better to the communities that they're in. And with enough pressure, you could actually do it, right? With enough, you get fucking somebody as enthusiastic about regulating Amazon as you do about QAnon, we could make real change, okay? Like you wanna go and overthrow the government

over fucking, you know, some fantasy about child trafficking. How about we talk about overthrow the government over the abuse of the citizenry at the hands of corporations which is real, which the Republicans are all in on, which the Republicans are the biggest, single, biggest mover on. which the republicans are all in on, which the republicans are the biggest single biggest mover on. You know, it's like, it's like actually pick something that's based in reality to get really mad about. And then, you know, we don't need to actually hang Mitch McConnell or Nancy Pelosi

or anybody else. We need better politicians to better represent the people of this country. And like, our problems are not, I mean, yes, our original sin in our core problem in America is this strange virus of racism that people can't seem to shake, which is really goes slavery. It goes way, well slavery and the racism the racism that led to it and the racism that is born from. That's right, yeah, yeah.

That's the core kernel. Of course, the actual act of slavery is, but it's a part of a spectrum of racism, right? Like of subjugating one type of person for your personal gain and to think to other them and to think that they're less then. Like the, but like, and I understand that we'll take eons for us to work out of our system if ever. But, you know, the energy that is expelled to be mad about Donald Trump's

election is such a wasted energy. It is such a useless energy. And it is so against what we need and what the people who are actually raging need in their lives. And it's like, I just can't, I just can't understand anymore. I really can't, I cannot figure it out like what it is they want. Like, I mean, if you read, if you read stuff about Josh Holley and these other politicians, it seems like they actually would like, they would prefer a life that is closer to something like what is depicted in the handmaids tale. And like, I, you know, I just don't think we're going in that direction.

I think there are people who'd like to go in that direction, but I think they're greatly outnumbered by people who just want to live, you know, and, and I think that like, if we don't figure out a way to push back against this forcefully and, and really like, change the narrative. Like we're in for decades of bullshit over this. And we've already been through decades of bullshit of it, but it's like, it's just, I'm exhausted. Aren't you? I mean, isn't aren't these people, they don't even know what they're fighting for anymore. But the thing is that gets me mad is, I mean, many of these people are in a cult or they're brainwashed.

And I don't know that that's so easy to fix at this point. But I just think we need a healthy way to funnel people who feel rage about their life or about the state of the world or whatever. We don't have a way for those people to get educated about what the problems presented in their communities are, how they can get involved, how they can make meaningful change. And I think a core kernel of people's flaws, like racism, classism, those kind of ideas, they can flower in that vacuum and they can use that rage as like a sun and water and grow into huge problems. And I think we need to get back to basics. I think Joe Biden and the Democrats, especially,

need to get back to basics, not just from a standpoint of legislation. I think like just in communication. Like let's just start with Joe Biden's message needs to be like, look at the world around you. Look at the things every day that you see and do. Do you see work that needs to be done that would make meaningfully make yours and everyone else's life better? Do you see trash on the street? Do you see kids starving?

Do you see sickness untreated? Do you see roads collapsing? Do you see these things? You see that it's so warm during the winter and we're getting these insane tropical storms. You personally, which personally I like, I don't need any more snow. You see and you understand and you engage with this stuff.

That is a failure of the system because we know how to solve those problems. We have the people unemployed, willing to do the job. And the problem currently is the most powerful people in the world don't see any way to get an immediate gain from doing it. Yeah. It's really, it's really, it's shortsighted. And I understand that rage of like, fuck Nancy Pelosi, the system's broken. The only person

willing to destroy the system. Now I'm going to back him like, I'm not saying it's logical. I'm saying I see that people got there, but we need to start messaging from a place of, Joe Biden needs to say, the Democrats are the party of doing stuff. The Republicans are the party of stop doing stuff. We would like to do stuff. What would you like done? Would you like us to fix all the roads

so that your commute is easier? Would you like us to treat, to make your health care free so that you can go to the doctor and your kids can go to the doctor and you no longer have to worry about it. It's as free as the fire department and anything else. Would you like school lunch programs so that inner city kids don't starve and you don't have to, we don't have to find intense, crazy ways to have CPS step in and move them to foster family. Most of the struggles, most families are going through are for bare necessity resources.

So why don't we just show people here, if we prevent problems, it's a rounding error. If we try to fix problems, it's a big chunk of your money. We would like to start preventing those problems, and we need your support to do it, and we need your gung ho enthusiasm, And we need your gung ho enthusiasm. And we need to start communicating in a way. Like, and I think AOC does a pretty good job of this.

But we need to start communicating in a way that people understand what we want, what we're meaningfully going to do, what is possible. And part of that is going to be painful. Like part of that is that we no longer will get Coca-Cola's money for a short period of time. Part of that is, is it hard for if you're a, if you're a state legislator who's been offered a ton of money by a pharmaceutical company to look the other way on their legislation, but you could get the rest of your agenda done. I understand how that's probably really daunting to make that

choice, but we need to make that choice. And we need to as a group of people, as a party, we need to say we are standing up in X, Y, Z way. Our entire party, if you're involved in the Democratic party, will no longer be taking money from XYZ donors. We need to make a break that funnels that rage and that power and that huge motivation that I see through people,

because the same Trump supporters who I have screaming fights with agree with me that they don't, well, they'll say they don't like socialism. That's a given. But they agree with me that there's things that need to be done that it is okay for the government to provide some services and that people like Bernie Sanders,

they trust way more than a corporate Democrat. And I'm not just saying that because that's what I prefer. That is literally what I have heard in my experience from almost my entire dad side of the family, including my dad. That they think that people like Bernie get screwed in the Democratic Party and that no one in the Democratic Party had.

You have to do what your dad would vote for Bernie. But they believe that. They're scared of socialism, man. He's like, rubber was socialist. But the thing is, we need to, as an entire party, represent some kind of higher value that speaks to them. Because if we don't, if we don't make a stand in some way,

because putting all the socials on the side, my dad wouldn't have voted to be with neo-nazis five or ten years ago. He would not have done that. He's doing that now. I agree, but I agree. You're saying, but. Because he was spoken to on other things. He was spoken to and he felt heard and he felt like there was a possibility that this

was going to be different in some way. And I'm not saying that it's going to be a one shot and that every Democrat needs the same strategy and that everyone's going to suddenly love socialism. But I do think if we start from the top down and we say, these are our hard, these are our hard morals and ethics. These are the things we want to do for you. And it's hard and we're making hard choices to alienate certain people. And that's fine because we know what is right and what is wrong because people will hear and see that and maybe it takes time. But you could get there if you can stop having a if the battle is in between, um, are we are going to be a white supremacy?

But it is, but it is, but that's what it is now. But I'm saying it's out of the box. Yeah. You know, but that's the problem is that we need to step back from before we can be like tackling major societal eels, we need to first be able to have a conversation that isn't like, well, I think this person shouldn't exist. And so I have to, and now my argument has to be like,

but I think they should exist. Like, because it is like, we are the Trump and the Republican Platform have removed the possibility of of governance From the conversation of governing they've made the conversation out about governing They've made the conversation about like your right to And what I'm gonna what I'm saying, is that he doesn't say it like that. They don't say trans people shouldn't exist.

That's not what they say. They say, we love trans people. Go do whatever you want to do. Except you need to use this bathroom. And we would really prefer on this issue if you weren't in the military. And on this other issue where you want to like give people puberty blockers so that they have

an easier medical process when they get a couple years older, we don't want to do that. puberty blockers so that they have an easier medical process when they get a couple years older. We don't want to do that. They individually go issue by issue and try to speak to some concern that the populace actually has. My parents are genuinely concerned that medical doctors are doing whatever parents push them for because they're PC and that these kids are... Yeah, but that's a fringe issue. I mean, they're all fringe issues. I'm telling you right now,

they're all fringe issues. These are all individual threads where individual Republicans from the top to the bottom have a lock step agreement that they each champion issues that they're that they're populist wants them to speak with to you., it's a fringe issue. To people like my parents, to people like my mom who, who like works with kids every day, that who has a gaze on and still struggles to understand that, that isn't, that's a huge society wide thing that's happening that you don't have to say. And so what I'm saying is, I'm saying we need,

we need to speak to each of those issues and communicate effectively the actual facts, what is ethical, what is moral, what makes sense. And we need to understand that my parents don't hear Republicans saying trans people don't exist. They don't hear that, but it is death by a thousand cuts. And we know that that's what they mean, but that's not what they're saying.

And so what we need to do is go out there and say, hey, we're worried about jobs, we're gonna solve jobs. And that ends up solving a lot of people's immigration concerns. Yeah, that ends up addressing a lot of people's immigration concerns, but it does it. It ties into racism. Okay, I hear you, but I hear you, but there's really no reasoning with like these people,

because like when you say like, we're gonna address jobs. Not with the people who people in the capital, but within the 73 million people that voted for him, there are people to be one over. And we only need to win over five or 10 million to win for a generation. I get that, but I get that, but I hear what you're saying. I'm saying, well, we're in this position.

Well, we have a few different, but you tell yours, we need to make some serious changes. And I think that these are the kind of things that I start with. But the changes those people want to hear are not, like, we're going to be socialists. But that's not what you said, right? But that's not what you said.

I agree. Which is why Bernie got, you know, a shit this cycle, because I think more than ever now, people are scared of radical but I don't think you don't have to not say socialism at all. I think you can't. You can't definitely try to avoid it if you can. Meaning to be doing death by a thousand cuts in the exact same way where, oh actually

you know what, in this specific school lunch issue, here's the math and data on why I'm correct and I want to save you money. But these people, how do you, how do you talk? Okay, but really seriously I hear what you're saying and but like the death by a thousand cuts at that point is so you've got school lunches You tell better police it. Yeah, but how do you tell people who are like when you say well? We should provide kids Every kid should have a meal provided to them. How do you how do you reason with people who go? I'm not gonna pay for some kid to have a lunch just because their parents are deadbeats But there are people okay, there are people who you will not that's how that's the Republican thought process But there are I got mine you're gonna have to go get yours on your own. That's how we do it. Yes

And there are Of course, I thought Josh there are core group of people who are like that and who you're describing they exist We're never gonna win them over. They're a lost cause. But there are people, there are very real people. I know some. There are at least five or 10 million in this country who I'm with you. Here an argument from the Republicans, which is like, I don't want to pay for someone else's lunch.

It's just going to be more taxes. Don't you have enough taxes? That's what they hear and that's what they vote on. They don't hear larger arguments. So if we sit down with those people and we make sure to communicate effectively, actually this is going to cost you more money. And it will do harm to children. So let's step it up and let's say,

you know, let's as a community, we can save each other money and make the lives of these kids better. Let's do it. And if we can do it that. I mean, who's the politician I just want to know in your mind I'm totally on board with the plan I think the squad is really good at at effectively is the squad I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not

winning over what I'm saying wait wait wait let me ask you about the squad are they wish over okay go ahead I truly believe that the squad, those individual members, have very clear politics that they agree on, right? And they have very clear images that are very similar. They're generally people of color, generally women, they generally are openly socialists, they generally have the same policy agreements. I'm not saying that someone needs to be them, and I don't think that would work

in the places where Republicans have been winning. But what I do think works is their communication style. AOC talks like a regular person. She tweets like a regular person and so does Donald Trump. Make fun of his tweets as much as you want. That is how old men tweet. And it looks like a normal person is talking to you about normal things and being reasonable. And he uses words that sound reasonable.

They're not reasonable arguments. They're fucking insane, but they, people can understand them. The way that Nancy Pelosi speaks is not accessible. The way AOC speaks. It's not her fault. It's not her fault, she didn't. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter whose fault it is. If this is the way things are, AOC speaks. She should be allowed to be able to speak the way she wants. I mean, you know, sorry, people can't understand. But if you wanna win, you going to have to buckle up. Here's the thing. I mean, is AOC winning over Republican voters?

That's the only question. I think that she is won over a lot more people. In my opinion, AOC is won over a lot more people. AOC wins over people, I believe. Show me the numbers. Show me the numbers. I don't believe that. I think that the, I think Republicans despise her

more than almost any other Because of her but because of her policy ideas ideas and who she represents Yeah, and they don't like and they don't like and they don't like hearing like a they don't like hearing a Latina woman speaking 100% and and About politics in America. I mean, but Josh look at John Assa if. If we can get a white guy who does really well, who does really well in the areas where white guys do well, does that suck, it's super sucks, but for right now, okay? We get a white guy who's younger than 50,

who understands, who can make jokes about PlayStation or N64, who understands, who believes in the eye of the stand. I understand, yeah, I understand. What I'm saying is that communication strategy, if someone sits down in an interview with 60 minutes and talks like a regular human being and says things like fuck or that's weird or I don't like that or I that didn't make sense to me. So I'm not going to do it anymore. Talks in regular terms.

Not like we have a caucus that we are whipping to make the meaningful legislative discussions move forward in committee panel that doesn't work and I hear you I get it but I have a smart electorate what I'm saying is that communication style has to be communicating ideas that we believe in and has to be communicating here by people Joe Biden most votes of any presidential candidate. I think he did a better job of what I'm talking about. And if you go back and look at the DNC, if you look at the, he did a better job than Hillary at what I'm talking about.

And if you look at the DNC package, it was empathy for people who lost someone. It was, I understand what it's like to lose someone from this virus because I've lost my son, I've lost my wife, I've lost my daughter, and I understand nothing will make it right. And I understand that that rage within you, we can use it so that no one else has to go through what you're going through. But he also called, but he also called the people at the capital, Nazis and seditionists and racists. He's not going to win those people over. But he did win, but he did win my answer over. But the question is, right.

So that's the, so that's the question is that is the question is what is, you know, what is winning over what is that's my point about AOC who I think is your the thing that you said is a hundred percent right And I love about her and I'm not saying this because I'm like a big fan of the squad or whatever I mean, I like them but like when she speaks she speaks like A person she sounds like a person who is like affected by the same things that a regular person is affected So does say she does not sound right. She speaks like a regular human being. And I think that Joe Biden, I think his number one best quality is his ability to speak to people like a human being.

Which is part of what I think he won. And I agree with you. And listen, the Hillary thing, there's a lot of institutional sexism that work there. Sure, but look at the difference between Hillary Clinton speaking and how she speaks about the thing and Bill Clinton Bill Clinton won't agree because Bill Clinton seemed like a your dopey ass 90s neighbor who was a nice fucking guy And whether or not that's who he is that's what he seemed like yeah people are like what are you gonna do about immigration? He's like, hey, man, you know, we're gonna figure it out. We got to figure it out. Yes. Anyhow, but like that was the first, but people love that shit. People love it.

Yeah, I get it. Okay, but Obama spoke like that. Obama was, was he did, he did delved towards the end into more wonky and elitist ways of speaking, but at the beginning he spoke like a regular angry young man. And that shit is, is fire emoji fire. I agree, I agree, which is the crazy thing about, I mean, when you see those numbers where you're like,

you know, like the people who voted for Obama twice and then voted for Trump, you know, you're like, okay, what's the thread here? And honestly, I still don't fully understand it, but what I will say is I think that speaking to people, and I don't mean like dumbing it down, but speaking to people in a way that says, like, I'm, by the way, this goes back to that empathy point, which is, I'm a hypothetical what you're going through, and I want to deal with it, and I'm speaking to you not as like some, you know, we're not in a, you know, Roman Senate here, but we're speaking a person to person in America

in 2020 or 2021 or whatever. But, issue to me is this, what is winning? See I think the Republicans had a chance to reject the hatred of Donald Trump and they basically whiffed with this impeachment and they're going to whiff in the Senate. Why not say, we want what you guys want, but it's not overthrow the government. Why not say because right now the argument is no longer about like will you speak you know to the people and tell them straight face like you know tell them in plain language what's what they need to hear. These people want to hear that the government has been is being stolen from them and the only

way to fix it is to overthrow the brown people. You know, and like that's like literally a major part of the Republican platform now. So my question to you is, and I agree with you, you only need five or 10 million, you know, but how do you, what is, what is going to get the conservative, the typical middle of the road conservative away from the red line of racism and sedition and division and closer to, I mean, I heard when I heard, um, who was it? You know, one of these Burkowski, is that who it was? Who was like, well, maybe there's no room for me in the party. If it's the party, if the party of Trump, it's like, cool. Now actually do it, right? Actually change parties. Okay. Or like, say, I'm going to go independent, right? It's independent, there are independent politicians out there. It's worked for a lot of people.

You know, there are a handful of independent politicians. There could be a lot more. They could be a meaningful block for voters, right? If we had sane, productive, independent politicians, but we have instead, we have people who say, well, if it's the party, Trump maybe it's not for me, and then they vote with Trump on racist policies, on policies that hurt, you know, typical middle, middle, middle, well, if it's the party, Trump, maybe it's not for me. And then they vote with Trump on racist policies, on policies that hurt, you know, typical middle, middle, middle, middle, middle income Americans. You hear all summer and all fall. You didn't hear the constant repeat of,

I don't like how he talks. I don't think he's a good guy. I don't, whatever. However, I'm voting for him for ex-YZ tax reason. And get, but that's, I understand that. First off, the taxes did. You don't get, but I understand that. First off, the taxes did not help. I understand, John. Middle class, but also.

They said it did. I understand. Yeah, because if I talk to the opposite. But being susceptible to lies is not a platform. I mean, it's like, it's not, you know. I didn't say it is. I'm telling you, I think he lies to them about the, and addresses an issue.

We have real answers for them, but we are communication. It doesn't make lies to them and addresses an issue. We have real answers for them, but our communication doesn't make it to them. It doesn't make it to those people. They don't hear it. The Democrats are very bad at two things. One is they're bad at just being sounding like human beings who are empathizing. And even though they do,

I think they actually more often than not do empathize with people. There's bad at sounding like like human beings who are empathizing. And even though they do, I think they actually more often than not do empathize with people, there's bad, it sounded like regular human beings that empathize with them. And they're also bad at agreeing internally on what they're going to talk about and how they're going to fix things. Like if every Democrat was like Medicare for all,

it would not have been a talking point for the Republicans. It could not have attacked it, you know. They could have, they would have just said, this what we're doing because everybody deserves a healthcare and we're gonna do it. We're gonna pay for it. Just the way Trump did it.

If they had a person like, you know, Biden, who could say it. And just like, that's the platform now. But Democrats also are like, I mean, think about Al Franken. I think about this all the time. Al Franken did like some dumb shit. He like did a dumb like sexist, like photo and like, I don't know, some other shit that like in terms of Republican offenses would be at the lowest level of possible offense, you could imagine in the Republican Party, okay? We bounced his ass out of the Democratic Party

and out of Democratic life, so fast everybody's head spun, right? Because nobody gets behind each other. We're always trying to find a better solution. And like Republicans are really good at falling in line with whatever the loudest guy in the room has to say. And so like, I'm not saying that this is in either here or there on Al Franken, except that he was a pretty good politician in the time

that he was a politician. And what he did in terms of like, he could have done an apology and said, I've learned from my mistakes and I would never do that again. And I was young and stupid. And most of the Republicans would have been like, if he were a Republican, would have been like, who cares? Let's move on. But the Democrats love to fight amongst themselves.

And so you have the squad fighting Nancy Pelosi and you have Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders worrying about like, you know, how we're going to do health care and all this shit. It's like, it's good because you want that kind of democratic debate, which the whole like cornerstone of the party, but it's bad for people who want to hear dumb simple answers, you know, and like, how do you square that? I don't know. people who want to hear dumb simple answers, you know? And like, how do you square that? I don't know. I have no idea. But, you know, it's, I don't know.

I don't have the answer for this, but I will say that we have to solve it. But also, I don't think you can negotiate with terrorists, okay? Meaning, meaning. I don't think we can have a conversation about whether or not the people who storm the Capitol are right because they're not. There's absolutely no, in my opinion, there's no space for that in our conversation.

There's no space for people who have bought into outright lies, outright lies in the attempt at sedition. That cannot be our debate point. It has to be about real things. Those people have to be ostracized from both parties. Extremists have to be ostracized from both parties, because we can't get worked on like that. That's my opinion. It's one man's opinion.

I'll be murdered later for saying it, but you know what? It is what it is. It's my man Trump. it's fun to say. All right, let's get out of here. Okay, well we should, I mean, this is all very stressful and yet important, but we should wrap up, it's been a long week. We should get to nice things.

I have a nice thing, which I have to say you've been telling me about for a while and I resisted. I don't know why, just did but I'm gonna share it now with with the audience. I think I think I'm ready and they're ready. Tony is ready to hear it. I started playing Hades which is a very hot. Apparently, everybody's like game of the year from 2020. I completely ignored it. I believe because I'm I have a prejudice against those like three quarter games.

Like for some reason I just don't really like games that are that top down three quarter angle. I don't know what it is it just bothers me. It's like a strange tick that a game can either be either has to be like immersive, liked or a side-scroller or I'm not interested I do like you know I will say it's not the same perspective, but I love a like a smashed TV Which is a top-down fully top-down I should say any I started playing this game and it's great It's super fun. It's very very similar to dead cells in my opinion. I mean, I think you could say that these developers, you know, played Dead Cells and they were like, we should make a game like that, because that's kind of how it feels to me. But yeah, it's good. It's fun. It's super fun. It's

frustrating, but just enough. It's frustrating enough that you want to keep playing and not so frustrating that it makes you want to quit. And I don't really understand. There's a lot of shit going on in the game that doesn't fully make sense to me, but I'm getting I seem to be getting better at it. And so that is an indication that I'm you know playing it the way the makers intended. So yeah, and then I Zelda like was into it. She's something playing it and she got into it. She hasn't been playing it a lot, but she's played it a little bit. I think it's a little overwhelming for her. She's gonna probably stick mostly to animal crossing on her switch My one complaint though I will say is that everything is really small in Hades like everything is just so hard to see Like maybe I'm old now or maybe I should play it on a TV, but playing it on my switch. It's like just like my main character is minuscule, you know?

Anyway, that's that's really all I have. Oh, and I finished Soma, finally, after it being out for 10 years or seven years or however long it's been out. Incredible game, incredible storytelling. I mean, every game developer should take a page from those get from that developer. But I'm also like a little disappointing because I feel like Soma's ripe for a sequel. And I know the last game they did was a sequel to one of their other games. The, um, can't think of the name of them now anyhow, but it's which is another kind of survival horror game. But yeah, Soma, great, Hades, excellent. And that's it, that's it for me. My nice thing this week is the return of Scott Pilgrim versus the world, the game,

which is a licensed video game based on the movie Scott Pilgrim, which I actually worked on full disclosure when I was very young and a fellow at Universal Pictures. I helped to market that movie. I love that movie. I really genuinely love that movie so much and It's also a great comic book series and It's about this guy Scott Pilgrim and he's in love with a girl But in order to be with her he has to defeat her seven evil X's and the game is a beat him up

sort of streets of rage style arcade game about defeating those evil X's and It's really fun. It's full of references to video games all of Scott Pilgrim is basically huge meta references to video games And the game itself is is wonderful and it was unfortunately pulled from digital distribution like the eShop and the PlayStation Store. It was pulled four years after its initial release.

And if you didn't have a copy, you couldn't get a copy because it was never released physically. So only the people who downloaded it and happened not to delete it and kept their console intact could play the game. And that was released at, because it was such a good game. But it is now back out for every major system. Thanks to fan outcry and a physical version will be coming from a limited run games. So I

highly recommend that everybody out there go pick up a copy of Scott Pilgrim vs the World the And uh, yeah, I guess that show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow, and as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been told that your family is currently attempting to stock the steel, and I fear for their freedom.