Tomorrow - 229: That's bad, stop that

Episode Date: March 20, 2021

On this week's Tomorrow, Josh and Ryan discuss the issues brewing over at Nike, Google's weird fetish for watching us sleep, and why the entire world is trying to cash in on NFTs. Incidents of AAPI discrimination and hate crimes are terrifying and on the rise. We need to stand together to #StopAsianHate and we need to do it now. Here’s a great set of resources to take action today: https://anti-asianviolenceresources.carrd.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Witsboski. Today on the podcast, we discuss authenticity, tattoos, sleeping. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. This podcast is brought to you by Microsoft Voice Recorder. It doesn't show you much, but it seems to work You've already got it. Don't know why we're advertising it's on your computer. You can't avoid it It literally is free and check it out Just just type voice into your

Cortana Area Microsoft Microsoft Cortana I love it. I liked it anyhow. We're back Ryan. Hi. How are you? area Microsoft Microsoft I love it. I liked it anyhow. We're back Ryan. Hi. Hi. Hi. I Like that Microsoft was like, you know that halo lady is so popular. Let's let's put her in window. They were like windows needs tits I don't know listen now as you know, I'm not a fan of halo Because halo has one enemy that's like,

it's like a little like Pac-Man with arms, who's like, it's like a little Danny DeVito covered in paper mache. Yeah, they have like a Danny DeVito, like some kind of like Danny DeVito, it's Danny DeVito, like a monster in Monster's Inc. I feel like he is. I don't know.

Maybe not, but like, he should be. But like in Monster's Inc, there's like that one little monster who's like, Mike was out there. He of his, oh no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They have like in Halo, you're like, you know, you're like of some kind of hard ass soldier. And then like you also shoot those guys for some reason, which I never really understood.

So that's why I don't play Halo. And also I, it's like very, it's just not for me. Yeah. Anyhow, but I do respect the Microsoft was like, let's take this beloved female voice or computer maybe from our video game and put it in our operating system. I think it's a bold move and I salute them

and applaud them. When will Clippy? When will Clippy show up in Halo? I mean, they were smart. They do like Clippy's adventure, like Clippy's quest and they make like a crazy, ultra ray trace. Like they do whatever they ask to. They buy rare. If not to make a Clippy, like, I mean, Clippy's

Clippy's Clippy's quest and it's like quest to spell with a C. And then it, but it's got like the thing underneath it, a little wiggle that says it's misspelled. Because like that's what he does. It looks like you're trying to achieve some collectibles. It looks like you're trying to finish the game. It's like, you know, the comforts like it looks like you're trying to spell Quest. It's like Clippy. Anyhow, Clippy's Quest, you know, he goes through like 10 heart-stopping levels. He's like inside your docs. You know, they're, imagine a 3D world that's built out of Microsoft Word documents, okay?

I want you to just, right, and there's a level where it's the, you know, the strip with all the controls on it. There's a whole level where it's built out of that. You know, the more I say it, all his weapons are fluctuation like you upgrade. Yes. Oh my god. I marked a like an ampersand. Yes. Oh my god. You could lasso things with the question mark and you can like stab stuff with the exclamation mark and you, you like the asterisk is like a fireball periods are his little power gun Yeah, or he picks up periods Like for power back man Yeah, like Pac-Man, but there but this is in Pac-Man. This is Clippy. This is his quest and

Actually, it's Clippy Gendered I don't want to be like woke or whatever but this is their quest. Yeah, this is their quest I mean I actually now that I'm thinking of it, like I can't remember if like, Clippy is supposed to be like a boy character or not. Do we know? I don't think we were ever told. And I think it's up to Clippy.

I guess what I'm asking is, does Clippy have a cock, okay? I guess. And if so, is it- Is it a boy cock or real cock? And what kind? It's tough. And is it just a bent part of his bod?

Is it just another extension of his bodys? You know, like an extra curve. An extra curve of the clip, as they say. Yeah. Anyway, this is great stuff. And I'm glad that I'm so glad we returned. We took a little break, a little breather. After that Paul Ford episode,

we were just like, you know what, we got a cool down. How can we talk? We got a cool off. We got a, this is too hot for the podcast culture. Too hot for the podcast, Seth. Too hot, we made red scare look like blue scare. You know, that's how hot it was that's how provocative it was and anyhow it's a blue scare just potsy of the

world I don't know I don't know that's a great question I don't even I don't know I've listed to one red scare episode and so I can't comment too much except that I loved it I love everything they're doing over there. I support them. But anyhow, so yeah, we took a little break. We may go to, our schedules have been very hectic lately. I think we should say that as 2021 has gotten into full swing, Ryan and I have been very busy with many, many projects, which we're going to just be vaguely referencing here. But and so I maybe will go to like a two week, every two week schedule, maybe, maybe not. You know with us, you know, it's, it's really about where our heart is.

It's not about it. You know, sometimes you need downtime just to recharge, but also it, we're very overbooked and we would rather give you a good podcast where we're present than one where we're like, we have to do this in 40 minutes and get out and like we're answering slacks while we're doing it. Like, that's not a good. No, that's bad. And if you feel, right, is that you have to ask, you know, is the artist present? If the artist isn't present, why would anybody bother sitting down in the chair?

You know, I want you to think about that. I want you to Google and get back to me Tony But anyhow the artist is present today and Both artists are present and we have a lot to talk about. I assume I have no idea what we're actually going to talk about But I know that Ryan you always come very prepared Well, not to change notes to a downer, but I would like at the top of the show to take knowledge, the horrible tragedy that is happening in the US at the moment. Yeah. There was a mass shooter who killed eight people.

And obviously the Asian American Pacific Islander community is being extremely hard by it, because contrary to what the sheriff of the town says, it is absolutely a hate crime. Definitely a hate crime. To kill a bunch of Asian people and yell, I want to kill all the Asians. That is something like the definition of a hate crime. And no, it's in the, the, the, the extremely, the ultimately most depressing part of this is that this is not like a situation where, you know, sometimes things happen and people go, no one saw this coming. I mean, there has been a drumbeat of a steady drumbeat of a huge rise in violent assaults and

attacks on Asian Americans. And it is something like, I do think there are, I mean, I hope this is a moment where people stop and go, wait, maybe maybe we, like, what we might have written off as not a big deal or not important or we didn't need to pay attention to this changes. And I'll admit that like this is, and I don't know if it's because of, I'm reading less news lately in a post Trump world or because the news organizations are doing a poor job of covering these stories. That may very well be the case.

But I think, I think for a lot of people, this was like, well, it seems like something's happening, but it's not clear just how bad it is, or just how big of a deal it is. And it's like, there's a whole, I mean, there are, again, Asian-Americans are not a monolithic group of people, but this violence, the stuff that's happening right now

is monolithic in its direction, meaning what I mean is Trump spent the last couple of years, especially the last year, turning Asian people into targets in this country by just spewing vile, racist shit about what's happening in America and what's happening outside of America. And that has like these are the real world consequences. And I just like I don't want to go back to talking about Trump because like it's really nice that we're not talking about Trump.

But I will say what this is what happens when you let us white supremacist into the highest office in the land and you let him say whatever he wants to the large population of America what it does is it makes people in emboldens people to think that they're horrible ideas are justified and like I do think there is a direct line like I would love I mean I know it's never going to happen. But like, this is like the blood of these of these people that were killed is on that dude's hands and all of the people who surrounded him and and and propped him up and allowed him to do what he did without stepping in and saying, this is wrong. We if fucking Mitch McConnell, who is married to an Asian woman. So I hope it's hitting especially hard for him that like this is is but this is his creation because he Condoned it he allowed it. He didn't speak out on it And I mean this goes for a lot of people, but like you know, we it's so fucking depressing. I mean

It's supposed to be wrong to say and to think and to act like a racist in America That's supposed to be something that we all agree. I mean, just like, I'm not saying we all get it right. Listen, they don't have an ideology. They have aesthetics and a reaction. They're reactionaries with aesthetics of family values, God in country. They say these things, those are an ideologies.

Those are stickers. Those are bumper stickers. Those are patches on their gene jackets. And they react to things. However however it suits them in the moment. The only hitting that they ever seem to protect is white supremacy and the rich. And so, those are the things that you like and just come out and say it, but the problem is, they're even on top of all of that, on top of all of those things that I think are detestable in people, they're liars about it.

And so, I have zero patience and it's difficult because when stuff like this happens, it is very clear and it is very obvious who is the cause. It is very, very obvious that what the enormous rise in hate crimes against Asian people, against Pacific Islanders, is not unrelated to calling the global pandemic, the worst disaster in my life, which has been filled with disasters and wars, the China flu. I feel bad even saying it out loud, but we have to say what he said.

But that's what, I mean, the guy, the president of the United States was using, like, literally using, like, dirtbag, slime, fucking, like, slang to describe, like, a thing with a name that has I mean basically besides being like the country of origin has nothing to do there is no like Chinese anything it's like it's it's a fucking virus it

originated in a place it's like it has nothing to do with a group of people but listen hate speech is a form of violence that leads to real violence, you know, and like this is Donald Trump was a white supremacist who was in the White House who like just propagated hatred and violence throughout this country. And now we've got to find some way to vaccinate ourselves. We need some bleach in the veins. We need some, what is this thing? Chlorox in the veins. Yeah, we were like clarks in your lungs.

Yeah, we need chlorox through the veins. I'm trying to survive. We need chlorox and bright light through the veins of America. And then we all need to get the vaccine. Okay, anyhow, all right, what else is happening? Maybe something. We should talk about our big scoop.

We've yet to talk about our big scoop on the site. Edgar and our team, our style section team, have been working on this story, which continues to unfold, that a Nike of EP was reported multiple times to upper-level staff. That her son was running a reselling business using her position as leverage,

and obviously making quite a lot of income on the back with the Nike brand, and on the back of Nike's fans and customers against the company's stated ethical policies. And Nike looked the other way for a long time in a way that it didn't for people of color at the company. And I think it ties in perfectly to say this is a great example of the kind of soft power behind the scenes that white people can wield. And it's, you know, it's Nike is not a company

that has a clean record on issues like this. And I think especially for a company who's such a diverse customer piece, it's pretty shocking and it's pretty egregious. Yeah, I mean, I thought was so interesting about this is just this idea that people at the company actually reported this behavior from, I guess, this VP's kid,

but it was going on with the discounts and stuff. And the company basically was like, no, it's fine. We're not gonna react to that, we're not gonna do anything about it. I think it's pretty crazy that also Nike's out there kind of saying, we weren't aware of this or we didn't know what was going on. Obviously, there were people talking about it happening and flagging it and they were

just not responding. Listen, is this the worst thing in the world that Nike's ever done? Obviously, we could talk about for a while. I love Nike. They make great shit. But there's some problems. The company's problematic and long ways. I mean, they've had child slaves. That I love Nike. They make great shit. But like, there's some problems. Like the company's problematic and long ways. I mean, they've had child slaves.

That's a documentary on the other thing that they have. Yeah, I mean, like, it's a company with some issues in its past. And also, it's a company that's done some great shit. You know, like, the stuff they did with Capronack, like, I mean, the fact that they kind of like got out in front and we're like, we're going to support this person and we're going to pay the money to be in our ads and we're gonna promote their you know their causes like that's pretty great but what's interesting about this is

You've got I know it's not a big deal, but it just seems so Easy to prevent this to just go you know, hey listen, I get it your kid is doing this But you know knock it off. It's a bad look for it. I tell you kid to get it out. It's not It just is like imagine by the way being this I just want to say like you're a VP at Nike Okay, you've worked your ass off. You're like you got a senior job at the company Wouldn't you just say to your kid hey? This is done. Now we shouldn't do this. Not totally about that. The bad look, if it were me, I mean, it's like this, okay.

There are, listen, of course, we're not going into the offices currently because of the pandemic, but let's say we were. At the offices, there's lots of computers all over the office, okay? This is like Zelda comes into work on me one day and takes a bunch of computers and leaves with them. You know, I'd probably be like, hey, you're not allowed to have those.

Like, don't do that, I'll get fired. You're just like, there are some things you can just do as a parent to go, yeah, that's bad, stop that. You would think this would be one of them. Like, you'd go, let's not abuse my position at a company that I've clearly worked at for a long time and work my ass off at. Let's not you'd abuse my position here. So especially when other people, black people or people of other races are, their kids came in and tried to take one and they will fire for it. Well, of course, remember, I mean, who knows what

their, what, what her awareness was of any of that? I don't know, you know, but like, I don't want to assume. But let's just for the record, whoever at night he was making the call, who was the person that was like, yeah, one thing is find the other one isn't. Like, there's a person somewhere. Who was it? That's what I want to know. I want to know who that person was. And I want to know why they made those decisions. There's no way, I mean, maybe it was the CEO. I doubt it, you know? But the buck stopped somewhere, and I think, you know, where does it stop?

That's the question. Where does it stop here? And I think, you know, it definitely raises, it definitely raises questions just about how, what the kind of, like, listen, Nike's a big company. They have a lot of cultural cashier. I mean, they are, they are a culturally significant company.

They are one of America's like best known iconic companies. I mean, they are like a McDonald's level icon of American industry and industriousness. And you know, they're the apple of feet. They're the apple of feet, which is exactly how I've described them to many people on a regular basis. So like, so like where, you know, get your shit together, get your shit together. Do better. Yeah. This is not, this is not rocket science. It's not even that complicated. I mean, I don't know.

Listen, I get it. People things slip through the cracks, but this feels a lot more like somebody decided to apply one set of rules to one person and another set of rules to other people. And it doesn't look like someone pushed it through the cracks. Yeah, it's like, it's not a good, like the way it seems to be breaking down

based on the reporting that our team has done is like, it doesn't look really good, especially for a company that wants to embrace diversity and embrace like, you know, different cultures and, you know, all of their advertising is like, it's so like we're, we get it, we're here for you, like we're down with whatever's going on with you, like we want to be part of it. Meanwhile, they're actually like, oh no, we're pretty like white centric mostly. We're actually pretty into white people.

And everybody else is, yeah. Eh. So anyway, yeah, so read the story. Yeah, very good. And by the way, I mean, just to Edgar's credit, shoulda had Edgar on. Edgar's credit, I should have had Edgar on. Edgar's literally. Edgar is furiously working on this right now. I don't think he wants to take the 40 minutes out to talk to us, Chuck.

No, it's true. Furiously working on the next, all the next chapter of this, but like, uh, but, um, you know, he's, he's like getting some great stories here. And, and I would say also this, like one thing is the these stories come from a place of love, from Edgar and from the team that is working on these. Like we everybody's, like I would just say input, we love Nike. Everybody here, like I mean, when we like when we talk about shoes and when we're like, oh shit, should I buy these? I mean, we're all like, yeah, it's like nine times out of 10. It's Nike's. But like, but I think the criticism,

the critic, not even criticism, but being critical about the company comes from a place of love for the company, meaning like I think if this, there are a lot of companies that like, you know, you expect this behavior from. And I think what's interesting is that I feel like it's a little bit of a surprise to everyone that Nike would let something slide

like this when they've done put so much effort into trying to raise the bar. And so, and speak on it, not just be like, hey, quietly, we're doing stuff, but we want to make it a central part of our narrative. Yeah, they want to be different. And of course, the people who work there, the designers, the work is impeccable,

but that's what makes it so frustrating, is that their sneakers app is a perfect example of you've cultivated a market in which people have to work really hard and pay a lot of money to have your product. And you're exploiting it in the background on the back end dishonestly. And that's just not a, that's hopefully this is an issue that they can resolve and clean up because there are some upcoming drops that I would like to purchase. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready to get. I listen. Spring is coming. There is a we're getting the vaccines are rolling out. People are going to want to be looking at my shoes. So Nike, help me help you.

Okay. Anyhow, it's great stuff and you should read it. Read all of it. We've been tracking it closely. All right. What else? What else is? What else is going on? Read news. Oh my God. The UK has officially ruled that Uber must recognize its drivers as workers and give them benefits and treat them, you know, to a minimum wage, which is a huge difference from what happened in California.

Obviously that was a proposition that was bungled, I believe, by the population and intentionally done by Uber. But I think if Uber has a sustainable business in the UK, it is proof that you can, they can make that model work around around the world and that all of their excuses are, I mean, it's the same thing with McDonald's, right? Like everyone says, you, why am I going to pay you $25 to work at McDonald's? How much of a burger are going to cost? Well, you know, in many countries they do do that. And the burgers cost a few cents more, a few cents. And those people have a much higher quality of life. And I think this is a perfect example of like, if this works in the UK, yeah, I mean, what's the big difference in New York?

I would love to know. I mean, I think for sure, like, I mean, it'll be interesting to see just because I feel like we're in such a weird place right now that with Uber's business generally speaking, we're in such a weird place right now that with Uber's business, generally speaking, that it's like, does Uber have a business? Like, is Uber a thing?

I mean, maybe Uber's like, these businesses better now because people don't wanna be on public transportation or something. But like, I think there's a big test about, obviously this is a partially, it's like, can you have a business that is fair to its employees? But also, you know, can you have a business full stop? I mean, I would say like there's don't you think there's a little bit of an open question about this?

Sure, and I think of the more that self-driving cars that that industry develops. I mean, it's, you know, it maybe it is 10 years, but if you're a company, the size of Uber, that is nothing. That is no time at all for you to have a sustainable, I mean, it's a whole industry, right? Like, also, like, CAHBS will continue to exist and be licensed by cities. And I think Uber had one great innovation, which was their app, and they're like, hit a button and a car nose to come to you. That's great. Nobody likes to help CAHBS.

But everything other than that, I mean, from surge pricing to the way they treat their drivers, to their safety issues, to the, you know, the way handicap or disabled people have to work around, Uber is, you know, it's not great. And if Uber isn't ready to step up to the plate and start treating people the way they deserve to be treated, they're gonna get left in the past.

And at some point, self-driving cars are going to calm down the pike, and unless we decide that we think that these workers have great jobs and we want to support this company, I mean, at some point I'm just going to hit a button and a pod's going to appear and I'll get in the pod, right? So I don't know what their business model is, but I know it certainly isn't like crushing labor rights isn't't gonna keep the lights on. I mean, has Uber turned a profit yet? No, right? So like,

Yeah, I don't, I'm not following their financials closely, but I will say that it would be news to me if they have turned a profit. I can tell you that. So I don't, if I were, if I were a betting man who was not ethically bound to not do turned a profit, I can tell you that. So I don't, if I were a betting man who was not ethically bound to not do such a thing, I would maybe be shorting Uber

because I just don't think that they're, I don't, I've never thought that their company was long term and I've never thought that their company was worth the amount of money, the valuation because really when it comes down to it, it's the brand, right? Like the only reason you would pick Uber over the 900 clones or a cab is the brand.

And if the brand is crushing labor rights, I mean, how valuable is that brand? You know, it can be a household name, but if everybody hates it, you know, cable visions of household name, nobody like in New York likes them. I think if I were Uber, I would take this UK ruling as a shot across the bow to like step it up across the board. But good for the drivers of the UK. I mean, you know, you hear stories of Uber drivers who are barely turning out, like, like, a livable, not even a livable, a barely turning out a minimum wage, and assuming all

the risk for that company. And I don't, I think people are more conscious of that every day. I think like, you know, even my parents, when they talk about Uber, they know that it's like not a good company. It is like, yeah, totally, totally. Well, listen, I mean, I, I, I hope that when I'm back out in the world, I can get into an Uber that's driven by a person who has like, you know, is getting treated fairly. I think that'd be an amazing innovation for Uber.

Do you want to talk about NFTs? I always want to talk about NFTs. What is going on? I love Nifty. Well, let me, I wanted to say something about Nifty's real quick. We wrote a story December 15th, 2020. I, do you remember? I was actually just thinking about this the other day.

I came into our slack, like in October or something. I was like, hey, these crypto art exchanges are really interesting. We should do something on them. I was like, this is, I think this is gonna be a thing. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but maybe a little patting, just a tiny bit of self-pat. And we did a feature, which is great about how these crypto, these literally art stories

called like crypto art auctions are about to blow up, or no, crypto art, what the fuck is this? Like crypto art houses are about to blow up the auction house or something art exchanges. Crypto art exchanges are about to blow up, or no, a crypto art, what the fuck is this? It's like crypto art houses are about to blow up the auction house or something, art exchanges. Crypto art exchanges about to blow up the auction house. And it was basically about what has happened where it's like this is going to turn the art world on its ear. It's a completely new way of doing this.

It's an untapped, you know, area with huge potential. I, what I thought, and I still think is like, it's one of the first really obvious things for a typical person who really doesn't want to think about, talk about, like, can't understand really what Bitcoin is or what crypto is. When you go, okay, so it's like this piece of art has a signature and the signature makes it, it makes it real, like it makes it the original and you can't change that. People understand that, right? They, I think they really understand it in the way that they don't understand many other things about, you

know, about like, cryptocurrency or about, you know, crypto mining or about Bitcoin. But I think when you tell them that, they're like, oh, like how a print works, right? Like you can get a sign print from an artist. And it's like, they'll sign a hundred of those prints. It's like, it could be fucking made on a Xerox machine. But if they sign the first hundred, those have value, right? And the original really has value, right? Because that's the original.

And like, even if you make a million copies of that piece of art and Everybody can have it some of them are more valuable than others because they're the original Right, and you're not paying for the printing. You're not paying for the paper. You're paying for the idea Right. Yeah, the idea that a thing Has an intangible value has some kind of has an intangible value, has some kind of magical, spiritual, intangible value, which of course, when we get right down to it, I mean, of course this goes for money as well.

When we get down to the core of it, to the bottom of it, sort of like all life makes no sense. You know, you're kind of like, what are we doing here? Like what is going on? Well, I think to me, I get it. Why I get why it's a big deal. I get where the art world wants it to be big deal. Like, I like, collectors are hype of shit. I mean, like, our brains are built to be like, I want to own it. I want, I understand the scare of some out. And it's got to be mine. And it's fun to

get it. That is true. I would go to a Marshalls and I will hunt like I am in the Pride Lands. But what bothers me is that the promise of the digital world, the promise of the Internet was the infinite copyability of things, was that there was no original, every copy is equal, and that if you were so poor that you can't get to a library, you can go on BitTorrent and educate yourself. You can get as much information as your brain can absorb in 24 hours every day. And I think the artificial scarcity of this stuff, I get it. It's better. It's decentralized.

It is better than what we have at the moment. I 100% agree. But I just would like a world. I mean, I've had this car. I own a bunch of Bitcoin, right? A full disclosure. I've had this discussion a bunch of times in our Slack with Evan who's like a huge crypto guy who loves it.

I would like to be in a world where there is no money, so there is no scarcity because I don't think we need it. And I don't think we need a system where like, I have a certain number of tokens, so I get to travel and you don't have enough tokens, so you can't go on a plane. Like that, that seems silly. And like so with the art thing, I get it because you want proof, right?

And it is better than souther bees owning everything or deciding who has a real piece of art to sell and who doesn't, right? You have to get your art into an art house for it to be valid. Now you don't. Now you are equal because your thing is a point just like anything else. But in my mind, I would rather artists not require that to make art. I would rather a world where artists infinitely confiable and we all can enjoy it. And you know, I don't know how we get there, but it's hard for me to jump on board because it feels like a half step. And I know that more is possible with the technology we have.

It's just not possible for us psychologically. And well, the bigger, the bigger problem is, is that, it uses an enormous amount of energy to create these, to mine cryptocurrency. I mean, this is, I mean, maybe it's not the bigger problem, but like, I do think that, you know, we have to reckon with the possibility, we have to reckon with the possibility that not everything we wanna do is a good idea

and just because it can do, we can do it, or it can be done, it's a good idea. And so I'm really, I really want people to start and listen, I'm not like, oh, you know, everything's about the environment, okay. But I do think more things need to be about the environment, right? And it's like if we don't fix that one problem,

none of the other problems matter. It doesn't matter how much cryptocurrency you're gonna have, you have when, like, your underwater, when your computer is like floating because we've flooded the planet because of global warming and a million other things that we're doing. Like, it will not be currency will not be your biggest problem in 50 years, probably, like, how much cryptocurrency you have will probably not be your biggest problem.

There are going to be other problems. And I think like we do want to think about how we stop repeating these past mistakes, which seems so, we seem so doomed to repeat. You know, we're sort of like at a place where it's, you know, suddenly people are starting to come up with like, there's so many interesting things going on in renewable energy. GE has these massive new turbines that are like generate huge amounts of energy.

And that's a really exciting things like that are happening. We're starting to figure out how cities can be green or how electric cars have this, have other issues. But for the most part, if we could switch every car to electric today, we would find, I mean, like the pandemic itself, like we could see noticeable differences in the atmosphere of the planet, you know?

And I think it's like, I think it's like, we really do need to stop for a second and say like, it's sure, this is fun right now and yes, you can make money at it, but like at what cost? And are we making a mistake? Are we repeating a mistake that we've made before? And like, can we do something better than this? Or can we find a way, you know, people talk about carbon offsets and all those stuff.

It's like, dude, now you're talking about carbon offsets for art. Like how can we not be better than this? Yeah, and I think there are alternatives. And for something that is so much money flowing into it right now, there's no reason that you couldn't institute some sort of regulation or rule that says all renewable energy, anything created for this, anything created for crypto, anything created for Nifty's, has to be done on all renewable energy. It's, that's the thing we can do.

We just don't have willing that. I mean, if you do it and you're willing to wait, cause it's like there's, I mean, the kind of energy needs we're talking about. I mean, it's massive and if this gets more popular, it's only going to grow. And so, I mean, I'm sort of like, listen, I think there's something really interesting about it.

I think there is something fascinating about the idea that we're transposing concepts from the art world and about sort of historically about objects like scarcity. And you know authenticity. Authenticity. Authenticity. Yes. I think there's something really exciting about that becoming a type of a type of a value that we care about, right? Like, I think there's something really interesting there and we should explore it and we should not stop people from experimenting, but like We also need to figure out like, I mean, can we do it better? The problem is like here we are to figure out, like, I mean, can we do it better? The problem is like, here we are, and listen, there's a lot of hype on it right now,

and like, the hype will go away, and then there's gonna be other things to talk about. But like, can we do better than, you know, repeating these same mistakes over and over again, and not really learning from them, and not trying to be better, or even conceiving of the better option. And so, I think like, I think like, there's, I'm glad that people are taking this chance

and playing around and experimenting. And honestly, like, there's so little that's fun and new in the world. So many, there's so few things that are like really actually interesting. This is one of, I would say this is truly an interesting development in the tech world, in the art world, in the world of finance. And like it does cross all of those things. I mean, that's one of the things that I think is most fascinating

about it is, I mean, in the fashion world, Gucci is doing, you know, they're selling shoes, limited edition virtual sneakers that you can like put on your feet virtually, which is, you know, got a hand at to them. Got a hand at to them. Got a have a gimmick. Got a have a gimmick. But like, I think that, um, at some point, like, we just want to try to not do the same thing over and over again. And, you know, the things that we've created in the industries that have cropped up throughout history,

very often progress, progress, is comes at the expense of lives and livelihoods and the planet and in people's well-being and like. And it does not have to. Those two things don't have to be very close. It doesn't, right, it doesn't have to, but capitalism demands scale, you know. Yeah. And so any good idea, you know, Lauren, I talk about it, we say, oh, they crispy cream. Every time like time somebody does what we work did, right? We work was like, we work's a cool idea.

We have these office spaces, anybody can get them. It's not so expensive. If you have a small company you're just starting, you can, we have all this stuff there for you. And that's a great idea. And they did a couple here and a couple there. And people like, that's a great idea. And then suddenly, we work for everywhere.

Most buildings where we work. At one point, maybe still true, the we work company was the largest leaser of office space in New York, okay? But like, obviously they didn't see the pandemic coming but they also grossly mismanaged their business. They crispy creamed, they got too big, too fast because they, it's capitalism and their investors demanded it. And I do think like it would be nice once in a while to not crispy cream

Everything it would be night could by the way if you don't understand the reference crispy cream was this um like I don't know where they started California maybe maybe Canada maybe they were like somewhere it land I don't know they were like a real good donut shop I mean they would make the donuts in front of you and they were fresh and fucking to me. Like, me. Yeah, and they were really good. And then they got like VC money or something and then the VCs were like, hey, what if there was a Krispy Cream ever fucking everywhere? They really everywhere.

They're like shopping center. Every week. What if, like you couldn't turn around without seeing a Krispy Kreme? What if we put a little Krispy Kreme box inside of 7-11? What if Krispy Kreme? What if when you opened your trunk, there was like a hidden compartment inside there. There was a tiny Krispy Kreme.

Yeah, let's do, let's do Krispy Kreme makeup. Anyhow, long story short, Krispy Kreme, like basically went out of business. Because people were like, yeah, I like Krispy Kreme, but not that much. Also, like, I just can't eat that, man. Don't. But also, it's like one of the things

that was charming and good about Krispy Kreme was that it was. But also, it's like one of the things that was charming and good about Krispy Kreme was that it was like, scarce. And it's especially, yeah. You had to go somewhere to get, oh shit, the nearest Krispy Kreme, it's like 50 miles away, fuck it man, let's drive there.

You fly off, please. You get Krispy Kreme with them in their lap to be like, I'm gonna give these to my kids when I get home. It's like the Kronut, remember the Kronut? People would line up for the Kronut, okay? You put the Kronut in every shop in New York. Nobody cares about the Kronut. Yeah. Which put the cronut in every shop in New York. Nobody cares about the cronut. Yeah. Which actually brings us full circle to the Nifty conversation. So in a way,

like actually my one, I would say my number one gripe with Nifty's right now is that the marketplaces exist with no very little to no gatekeeping in terms of quality. Yeah. And so like the, the actual art, like if we just get down to the idea of like this is a collectible art that has value, a lot of it is bet fucking bad. Like just shitty dumb, ugly art that sucks made by people who are amateurs and it looks like that. And like listen good for you, I'm glad you're trying to do it. Maybe you're going to become a millionaire because you made some amateur art

And I'm not saying I'm not a professional art critic, but like Like porno. I know it when I see it and I can tell you I ain't seeing a lot of it on the on the exchanges Okay, I'm seeing a lot of shit that is Like okay, you think you can make a quick buck because like you did like it's an MS paint shit So there are some real standouts. There are some, there is some really great art being done. And then there's some stuff, a lot of stuff, a lot more stuff that is not good. And there is no quality control, there's no gatekeepers. And that's again, there's a positive spin there, right? It's great, there's no gatekeepers. But it's also bad because like art isn't just like, it isn't just what you can sell.

I mean, obviously that's a component of it, but there is this idea that evocative in a certain way to a certain, and I don't mean a special group people, but to a group of people that it becomes evocative and meaningful to that group of people in a way that it has value. And it's like, art isn't just like,

you made a thing and it's art now, right? Like, it's like the whole Jackson Pollock debate. It's like, isn't just like you made a thing and it's art now right? Like it's like it's like the whole Jackson Pollock debate it's like you know Jackson Pollock people are like let's just my kid could do that like I could splatters and paint it's like yeah okay you could and you maybe you will but this is art and the shit you'll make isn't well there's a thing you were all think of like anybody can paint a Campbell suit can well then why didn't you know but that's and that's what's so interesting, is by the way, I mean, that is a profound artistic statement,

right? Yeah. Like the idea of that alone is just like mind-bogglingly, interesting and good. But like, it's, so what we see now is like a lot of the nifty stuff, like I think what might actually kill nifties is the saturation of, you know, what's cool about things that are collectibles

if they're really good and cool and you want them. What's not cool about things, like they're kind of crispy creamy right now. What's not cool is if everybody does it and everybody's got one, everyone's selling one and they're all going for like $5 a piece and nobody really gives a shit. And only like then you get like people,

who people, like people's been like people, and by the way, people's art is fine, whatever. The people have been talking about, I've been seeing people shit on Tumblr for a decade, okay? People's like a classic internet art guy. Like it's fine, I like it, not really for me, but like I understand why people like it. But like now people are like people, you know,

they're like, he's like the Banksy of Internet art. And it's like, okay, but people's like one guy, you know, for art to thrive, it can't be one guy. You know, Picasso is great. And a lot of people know just Picasso, but Picasso is surrounded by millions of fucking artists, like maybe not millions, certainly tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands maybe,

of art that came before it and came after it, and it's all building on a story. And like, right now the story feels like it's like a lot of fan fiction, and not a lot of novelists in there. Like, not by the way, fanfic can be great, by the way. Like I'm not saying there aren't any truly art, there's a lot of truly artistic fan fiction. Yeah, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's not, let's lot of truly artistic fanfictions. Yeah, let's not it's self-published. A lot of self-published. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not. Let's not.

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I Don't know I can't think of it right now, but the point is I don't know. I can't think of it right now. But the point is, art isn't just valuable because people can bid on it. There are other reasons it does value. I think one of the things that might be missing at the moment is the curations. The curation and some more of like, actually, why is this good or bad? What are we looking at?

What's the, what are we, you know, let's talk about why this is art. Let's think about why this is art. What is this doing here and now that's special about it? I think people actually, I think you can see the difference between what people does and of what a lot of other stuff is doing on these exchanges and like it's clear people is an artist people has has sunk Blood sweat and tears into developing a style that is very people and very different and special

Anyhow, but like, I'm not saying you have to be people, but you can definitely appreciate that what he's doing is a very developed, very thoughtful form of art. Some of these feel like, they're like, I did a sketch and could I make $5 on it? Have I just made a nifty? That's another thing, that's a whole other thing.

You're just like Picasso trying to pay for his coffee. And you know, honestly, that stuff is a bit like worth millions now, so what do I know? Um, on another topic, can we talk about how creepy Google's new Nest Hub 2 is? Is this the thing that like watches you sleep? Yes. It like, I mean listen. It's Gansy who watches you sleep. I don't like sleep tech in general, but's gansy, it watches you sleep. I don't like sleep tech in general,

but I certainly don't like it when it's like watching me. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's something comforting about the fact that, you know, if you're in, you know, REM sleep, it'll start like, maybe it'll know that you're highly susceptible to advertising, and it'll just turn on it. Some ads for like, I don't know, Krispy Kreme donuts, I'll be like, when you wake up,

then the Krispy Kreme be good. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't, we don't fuck with that in our house. I think I've told you this before, we don't have any of these sound things with the voices. We don't have any assistance. Like, I don't want Zelda talking to a person, a computer. we don't have any of these sound things with the voices. We don't have any assistance Like I don't want Zelda talking to a person a computer. I don't want I mean she talks to Siri once in a while because it's on her iPad But like it's a very I Secondary or recording devices in my room unless I would not put I would not put them in the bed I mean yeah, if I'm gonna have a camera in the bedroom I'll be have personally set it up

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want, I had nothing at all appealing to me about a camera just hanging out, pointed at anywhere near the places I hang out privately. Like, I don't, you know, it just feels like an unnecessary. Like, we have enough opportunities to Interact with people and things all day long I and I totally understand like why there is a convenience factor and you kind of like

You know I Like I see why people use these things and I think there are reasons and they're good. And like, I totally understand it. But also, I think when it comes to like a camera, certainly one that like will analyze your sleep by watching you, you know, I do think we're maybe getting into a little zone where a little bit of like. As some way log off, if you're dreaming, you can log off. I mean, once again, once again, just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't anybody., just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't anybody. It's not really of the 21st century really is. I mean, doesn't anybody ever go, you know, what are people going to think about it watching them sleep? Maybe it's just like, we don't need to do it. No, nobody does that. Right. I think they should hire people to do that. Ethicists, if some kind, but Google doesn't really have a great track record with ethicists, so.

No, they do not. No. I mean, none of these companies seem to be aware of what human beings are like. Apple seems to try. Do they understand it? I'm not sure. I mean, kind of, but like, putting in a performative attempt. But like, I'll do, okay, I hear you on that, but like take a video on your phone, then open up the photos app on your computer and see what happens, you know? Like, like, like, they may, they may understand some aspects of people, but then I feel like there's many,

like check out your notifications. When it's the last time you've like, willingly interacted with the notification on your iPhone. Like, have you ever, do you ever, do you ever done it? If I'm busy and I see someone responded to a tweet and I don't really have anything to say to them,

I'll tap it and hit like, but that's it. Yeah, I, I'm right, I'm just clearing them. I'm making them double way. Yeah, I mean, Apple's very good in many ways, but then there are things they do that are like, you know, it's like what planet did you come from? Do you ever, I often think when I'm using my iPhone, do you, I like Tim Cook, has Tim Cook ever used his iPhone?

And maybe he hasn't, I always think these guys, like they must have an assistant or something that has all their voice. Yeah, and like, they don't know what it's like to have a lot of notifications and have it just be a shitty ass mess that sucks. Yeah, like I know a lot of people just turn them off now. They're like I just can't. I mean, there's a huge trend on Gen Z TikTok in YouTube, which is, and I've suggested

we write about this, but we haven't gotten to it. So please let's do the idea. There's a huge trend on Gen Z TikTok and YouTube, which is I purchase a cellular enabled iPad and I have a flip phone and I take the iPad out when I want to be fully engaged with what I'm gonna do digitally. And then for the rest of the time, I don't have this little thing in my hand

that I'm walking around in front of my face. Like it's gone. And I think that in many ways makes sense to be like, like, millennials very much have like an addiction to their phones. I think, oh my god, I was spent a weekend with some boomer family members and all vaccinated. And it was, I was shocked. We were hiking and they all hit their phones at the whole time. And I was like, your generation, but it's true.

I mean, like for the people that did not have it before, it seemed so crazy that you would give it up now. But for people who've always had it and don't think it's the special thing or that they don't have to respond to every message or it's just the novelty isn't there or the like feeling like the responsibility that you, you know, I have my phone, I might as well check. If it's always gonna be there and you feel like it's always gonna be there, you know, I have my phone, I might as well check. If it's

always going to be there and you feel like it's always going to be there, you know, then the work becomes finding escapes from it. And I think I don't envision a future where everyone's phones are washing them sleep. And then they wake up and get told how good they are sleeping. Like, I just never seen that be successful in the real world. Well, you know, it's a new age. Maybe we'll go back to Stone Age. Maybe all of us. I mean, I'm ready.

I'm ready, bro. All right, let's talk about nice things. Let's do nice things. Let's wrap this up. I got it guys. Zeld is waiting for me. She'll be mad at me. I'll be like, I was podcasting.

She's gonna be like, that's not an excuse. All right, well my three, I have three little, nice things. You like whatever, let's move on. Oh, what am I gonna say? Sorry, though. No, come on, let's do it. No, it's fine. I'm trying to rush through it for her.

Let's go. I have three little nice things. Number one is, my wedding ring, I don't like wearing it. It's uncomfortable and it gets scratched really easily. Oh, that's some frightened stuff. I know, but so like wearing it. It's uncomfortable and it gets scratched really easily. Oh, that's some frightened stuff. I know, but so I bought this thing feels so constricting. This ring, I've got this ring is kind of the circulation to my, the rest of my body. The old ball of shame.

No, I bought a silicone wedding ring to replace it, just like this little, it was like $8 on Amazon, which you don't buy from Amazon Yeah, where else do you buy such things? But I bought a silicone wedding ring to wear day-to-day on non-special occasions and it's the best It's light. It's flexible if I'm sorry. Did you say a silicone? Wedding ring. Yeah, it's like a little rubber. I'm gonna use the photo of that. To me, all I can picture is like there these little dampener rings that go around the stems of of MX switches that you can put on keyboards. They're like little tiny silicone circles like those like donuts. And then now in my mind

all that's like that's what you're wearing on your on your finger. I'm sending a picture right now. Okay, good. All right. What else do you have for our next? My other your finger. I'm sending a picture right now. Okay, good. All right, what else do you need for our next? My other nice things are, I went to a bakery when I was on Long Island called Nettie's Bakery, it's on San Merch's, if you're anywhere near it, it was the most life-changing experience I've ever had. Their food, their baked goods, out of this world.

I mean, my mouth, I haven't had an experience like that outside of Europe ever. And so if you are a near that bakery, I mean, where you're living, you've won the lottery, head on over. It's on Google Maps, I think it's only up in three days a week, but if you can make it, please, and send me your review and tell them who sent you. And then my third little nice thing is, and tell them who sent you. And then my third little nice thing is, I love the Xbox, the new Xbox, the series X, I have. Some people have the series X.

It's so great, but in the mail I got, and this will be on the website by the time this is up, I got a mini-fridge in the shape of a series X filled with energy drinks sent to me personally, not really, by the rock. That is so cool. I mean, is it an ad, it's an ad, but I open it. Sounds like an ad right now. I open a giant Hawaiian themed crate with a note

from the rock, and then when I opened the box, it was an Xbox filled with energy drinks. I mean, come on. I'm glad that you're experiencing joy. Come on. The same thing my building brought into me. They were like, what is this? I was like, I don't know.

I'm Indiana Jones right now. I'm really happy for you. I'm not going to read all that. It was cool. It was cool. That's great. That's great. I'm going to type a mind nice thing.

And then we're going to get the F out of here. Okay. For some reason, I decided to not swear that one time on the podcast. Actually, I don't even know if these are nice things. Well, first off, my keyboard purchasing habit has been reinvigorated. And I've got some new keyboards and some new switches that I've fallen in love with. I'm just going to say a couple of things here. Tofu 65, Telia switches, brass plate, polycarbonate shell,

LEDs going fucking ballistic. That's all I have to say. The mechanical keyboard heads will know what I'm talking about. It's my new favorite keyboard, but I've got more on the way and I'm actually planning on building the perfect keyboard for myself Which I'm very excited about Needless to say it towards the end of the pandemic. I've run out of things to be interested in and I'm just reverting back to The things that make me feel best and most comfortable. I've also been like absolutely going ham on my Peloton I'm now I'm on an extreme

Beachbody diet because I'm gonna get back to my original birth weight of 8 pounds, 10 ounces. I was a big baby. And I'm also going to beat a hot baby with a 6 pack. So I'm riding my peloton, which I kind of don't like. People are like, are you loving it? I'm like, no, it sucks and is the worst. And the people, I like the people on the Peloton,

but I have to say some of them have some really bad personal musical choices that they're making. And I would love to address, I just want to address, I'm not gonna name names, but there are people who make playlists, you know, the people who are the instructors, they do playlists. And like, if you fucking drop a Dave Matthews song in the middle of the playlist

Like you can go fuck yourself. Okay, you really can't Can't read You know what Cody rinks me enough. I'm sorry. Okay, fine. Maybe Cody rinks beat doesn't fucking put Crash by the Dave Matthews band in the middle in the middle of it up beat playlist. Hey guys We were running the corner. Are you guys well? Is it a brick? Not dude for real. I'm not even, I, the shit, some of the shit they roll out, I'm like, are you, it's like,

to moralize you. It's a fast car. I mean, if you've ever been like, it's like, they got some like, a beach. There's like some of eachy song or something, it's like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm fucking crushing this hill, whatever, and then it's like, crash into me,

or whatever the song is, and you're like, I now, not only am I not motivated to ride, but I want to die. Like, I want to like fall off the bike onto a sharp object and be impaled and just have it all end. So, it's not really a nice thing, but the peloton stuff is a nice thing and I gotta say, I've become like not addicted to exercising, but for the first time in my life, for the first time ever. I'm doing something that is exercise that I think I'm getting better at. And I feel like it's like, I feel stronger for doing it. And that is a huge deal for me, because I have like been sitting

down for like 40 years straight. Okay. Now then finally, before we go to the last, I could just say your music thing that you'd be thinking of on Sunday morning when the daylight savings time shift happened. I woke up at 7.30 after the shift, AM to my mother blasting cold play. So same energy. I honestly though, cold play would be like an upgrade. I mean, I wish they'd sometimes I'm like, hope this, like, you know, smash cut into, it should be smash mouth, it would be fine actually, but like I need you to, like anything is better

than some of this should, like nickel back, they were playing nickel back, this one guy, I'm like, dude. Oh, one dude, creed, like, no, haven't heard a creed yet, thank God. One dude though, at the end of the ride It was like kind of like we're not the cool down period but close to it, but we were still going he's like the The song by bush came on which is called like I

Can't think of the book. It's like a book first of its a bush song And don't even know who bush it is like remembers the, but it was like a slow, like a, a valid, one of their ballads. Like a bush is like a, 16, right? No, bushes like six generation, Nirvana, British Nirvana, rip off, but like horrible, bad, just not good.

They have a couple catchy songs actually. This was not one of them. And then the dude was like talking about like his dog that died that when he came home from college like his mother told him that the dog had died and and I was like dude. I have just spent 45 minutes riding with you and you've taken me to like the darkest fucking most depressing place at the end is like how are you how is did anybody go like hey man. That last ride like is there a director there like just say don't do that

Anyhow finally Finally I bought listen I bought God of war on sale at your recommendation and Then I butch recently bought the newest ass and screen assassins created Valhalla and I don't get it There's something wrong. Maybe I don't because people love these games I know people I can't do anymore. I can't do it. I I don't get this whole fixation with the fucking tattooed shirtless like Like prehistoric men or women. There's some women in the in this as is creed, but like I

Their quests seem totally dumb to me all I can think about is how they're all like dying of dysentery and like at the age of 30, like, you know, I mean, like, I, I, I, I, I, they smell bad. They look bad. They smell bad. They look bad. They smell bad. Richard was a hard watch when you think about the smells. Richard, I tried to watch Bridgerton, but I couldn't do it. Just didn't do it for me. I was just like, this is not, this just doesn't seem good. I just, Laura wouldn't even try.

I was like, what night I was just sitting alone. I was like, I'll throw it on. Anyhow, but like, I'm gonna give, I'm gonna try more with Assassin's Creed. It seems like, I'm not like, I like, it's interesting. It's something bothers me about this whole like, this whole like, the boy's not ready. Like this whole like, this is why I grow.

It's just like man, it's just like very like dude, bro kind of like, you have to be prepared to kill. It's a guy I don't care about that shit. I don't fucking care about that. I don't think it's stupid. I think it's for like people who are like hunters. They like love hunting and they teach their kid to hunt. They're like, you need to be able to kill a deer. It's what I call them.

It's like people want to get deep. Yeah, they're like, whoa, you know, they're like, the people who love 300 are like, this game's important. It's like, that to me is how I feel. It's like, if you love 300, like, I guess God of War is a cool game. But like, that doesn't do it for me. See, the aesthetic is not why I love God of War, but I 100% agree with you on Assassin's Creed.

My husband loves them, but I look at it, and I'm like, you're just repeating the same tasks over it. I don't even understand what the puzzle here is. One other thing I don't like, and this is I think true of God of War, but not in Assassin's Creed, is I hate when the bodies disappear. Oh, yeah, sure.

It really, I really like, I'm big on object permanence, and that's a big thing for me. I love when I can, I remember where a thing is. And to like, I don't like that like the body like vanishes. I find that very annoying. The body, yeah. And every, that's by apathacrystic. Yeah, in every game that does it, I find it annoying.

I understand like if you play control and they don't vanish, they just pile up. Actually, do they vanish? I think they do. I never pile up. And that's one of those things I actively, it's a suspension of disbelief. I can't think about it.

Cause it doesn't matter. I hate it. I hate it, Mario, when you turn a corner and then you come back and all the enemies back I'm like, oh, I thought I fucking killed you. You want to die again? Yeah, no, well, there is the whole thing like like in the in the Star Wars game, which I just finished Which is good. Um, they do respawn for some reasons. Um, for some sorry for some reason they respawn, but uh, I I do notice like when they disappear.

They disappear in that game too, I find it highly annoying. So, anyhow, that's it. That wasn't even a nice thing. That was me literally bit train about other things I don't like. So anyhow, all right, let's wrap up. Let's get out of here.

Goodbye. Goodbye. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week, maybe, maybe, with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best. But I've taken your family hunting, and they're not ready. you