Tomorrow - 230: The plot of Space Jam

Episode Date: April 11, 2021

On this episode of Tomorrow, Josh and Ryan discuss will.i.am, Cyberpunk 1.2, the worst Legend of Zelda game, and the movie Space Jam. RIP NFTs, you had a good run. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Wittipulski. This week we discuss people, a clockwork orange. And will I am? I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. Ryan, we're back. We're back from after a long hiatus. Yeah, we took a real break hiatus

What did I say I said for a second? It's not like I said hiatus, which is not It's not what I want to say and and to anyone I've offended. I apologize. I look at my hiatus. Wow That's what I'm working out right now with intense my intense exercise schedule Remember I said at the beginning when we started recording and that I had my mic in a different place while I've succumbed to not liking the way my voice sounds and I've moved my mic to where it's not. That's not where it normally is.

No, that's what you think, but you're gonna hear the difference. You're gonna go, wow, this guy is an audio, jeans, audio wizard. Do you listen to your own voice while you record? I mean, I can hear myself talking Yeah, I have I use a Yeti blue Yeti and it has its own Headphone output on the mic, which is actually brilliant. Yeah, and so it has its own volume control And I can turn it up or down and yeah, so I do hear my own there may be a way to set it up so you don't hear your own voice

But it's actually quite helpful to me It's actually oh, I can't stand it. I get caught in the sound and then I would just end up making well sounds being like, hell, I'm just making sounds. I'm like, levels of my voice right now. If you were not stoned, you wouldn't feel that way.

I, I, I'm sure this is what the tomorrow listener they had been missing. They were like, of course. They were like, Tony was like, you know, I haven't, I haven't heard a two guys just talk about the sounds of their microphones for five straight minutes. And where is that?

We'd like, where's the classic podcast stuff? It was like two white guys going like, is this bike sound okay? That's like, that is like classic. I mean, that is like put that in the library of Congress. We want to make sure we retain this model

of this mode of communication. We want to show future generations what the original podcast was like. Hey, hey, it beats Clubhouse. Yeah, I know. Clubhouse is, here's my, I'm gonna give you my prediction about clubhouse. Dad. Dad, as soon as summer rolls around and we have enough people to vaccinate it.

A high-interiorated person. Absolutely not injured. You know what I don't want to do ever again if I can help it, is be at home at night, listening to people talk to each other on the internet. Nope. Like, there's the thing, the cool people will be gone immediately. And then who's left? I mean, if you want to just not to be a dick, but if you want to sit around with in cells

who don't leave their homes, then you're going to have a really good time. I mean, look, there are some, okay, I mean, on every service there's cool people and there's uncool people. But I'm just saying, I don't want, I can't comment. I haven't used Clubhouse enough to really comment on the quality of the news. anybody with an interesting enough life that you would want to hear talk about that life. It's going to be out all summer vaccinated. So right, but what I will say is yeah, what I will say is I just think the concept of being at home at night, if you don't have to be, is gonna be one of the least appealing things for people in our near future. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like I think this, there is, and I feel this very strongly, I love being at home. Like I think, and we've talked about this before, but the silver lining of the pandemic for me me if we can find any of them and we must I think strive to find some here and there is you know I got to be at home around all the stuff that I like and all the people that I like and I got to hang out with Zelda a lot and I and I actually

think I mean as a business we've been extremely productive during this period I mean, you know input has grown enormously been extremely productive during this period. I mean, you know, input has grown enormously. We've grown the other brands and the culture and innovation group at BDG. We are doing new things that are going to be exciting for this year. And like, I feel like I've been working well and hard, but also have had a lot more time to do things like hang out with my daughter, which is really was hard to do when I was commuting every single day. So there's like, that's nice. And I love being at home. And I love my house. But at this point, I'm like, okay, I've done enough of that. I wouldn't, I need to go somewhere.

I need to be around some other people. I need to like just not be looking at, you know, I'm sitting in this room. It's like, I need to not be sitting in this room. So I do think that, and for me, that's like an extreme shift, right? Like, you know, I'm not a highly social person. But now I'm like, God damn it, I wanna physically socialize with people. So I think if I feel that,

I think a lot of other people are feeling it in even more acutely than I feel it. And so that's my armchair. My armchair prediction of a clubhouse. I mean, all, you know, best wishes to your thing, but it's like, I just don't see it. The thing is, you can't time shift clubhouse. So when everybody doesn't have the exact same availability anymore, oh well, I guess podcasts are it again. Yeah, it is, it is what it is. You can't DVR Clubhouse and why would you want to? I mean, I suppose you could DVR Clubhouse, but that's like a college. I mean, it's a college.

A podcast with no edits, how tragic. It's quick describing our podcast. Anyhow, so that I didn't mean at all to talk about Clubhouse, but here we are. So anyhow, okay, what else is going on? It's been, we haven't talked in a couple of weeks, and there's a lot of news happening right now. There's important things and also less important things.

You know, the most important thing would be, will I am, it's releasing a face mask. There's no, ought to be honest with you, the amount of coverage that will I am can generate on a product that will inevitably be inevitably be a complete turd. Like, it's really, I mean, will I am should be celebrated and congratulated for continually getting people to cover stuff that is like, he has never released anything product wise that is not just absolute crap.

So I remember the typewriter for iPads. Yeah, I mean, that might have been closer to something that almost was a good idea for him, you know, like, didn't it, like, the thing would flick up and then hit the touch screen for you with a whole package of it. I don't know about that, but that's a really funny idea. That's honestly, like, that actually makes me want to buy that product. I love the idea that there's like they couldn't get the Bluetooth working so it was like there's that actual little like a rubber thing that flips up or whatever. Now that's good.

Yeah so will I am released to mask it's called the super hero. Super hero with an X I believe. Super mask. Sorry super. Super. I guess it's superhero with an X, I believe. Super mask, sorry, super mask, super, I guess it's supposed to be pronounced super mask, but I won't be doing that. I will be pronouncing it super mask, which makes it sound very German. Like it makes sound like the ubermensch, basically. And so the mask is like, he's doing it with,

Honeywell, Honeywell. So he's doing it with Honeywell. It's designed by this guy, Jose Fernandez, who has designed stuff for like superhero movies. And the idea is that it looks kind of like a, like a bane, I guess it's supposed to be like a bane mask kind of or like a iron man sort of vibe. You know, it's like, I get the idea. I do. It makes sense that we would like there's been a lot of fashion masks. I personally wouldn't wear this You know, it looks like it's more than I want on my face like I think I

Hope that we get to a point where masks are optional hopefully, but also Where we have masks that are like very minimal. Like however minimal we can make them, I'd like them to be more minimal. I don't have a problem with wearing a mask. I like them just fine. I, the idea of like spending $250 on a mask like this is, is that how much they're selling it for? I don't know.

Doesn't feel like a thing I'm getting. This like clubhouse I feel will be increasingly less desirable, $300 actually. I feel like, this is the kind of thing that he had, he released at six months ago, would have been a slam dunk. I just don't want all of my casualty things in one device. Like, I want my headphones to be a separate thing so that I can replace them and then keep my masks.

Yeah. And I'm definitely gonna continue wearing masks on the subway for the rest of my life because I have not gotten sick as much in this year. Yeah. But I want it to be modular. Yeah. This is very cool looking, but I don't have $300 to spend when I could spend $200

to get brand new AirPods and then $100 on a variety of masks. Yeah, you could have a whole closet full of masks for the cost of this. Yeah. It's cool looking. If you were to give one to me, I'd be like, cool. All of Will I Am's ideas, it's sort of is intriguing to look at and then if you just peel a little bit away

like the surface layer, you're kind of like, this is not good and it's bad and I don't want it. So I mean, you know, congrats Will I Am. I think his main contribution is just getting his ability. I mean, what I, congrats to what I am. I think his main contribution is just getting his ability, I mean, what I'm impressed by and what we should all sort of marvel at his ability to get coverage on things that other people would be, it would be absolutely ignored. It's like, I think it's very novel to people

that this guy is interested in technology and occasionally does some collaboration. I mean, I think it should be a lesson to a lot of other celebrities that they should be doing more. He's like Bizarro Kanye. Yeah, kind of. Bicconia does stuff that people want.

And I mean, at least in a space that is, you know, it's fashion. He's like, he's like corny or Gaga. Yeah. Well, her Polaroid collab was very good. Whatever happened with that? Did they make it money? Did they make it like,

do they ever do like a Gaga camera or anything? I have no idea. I know they made a Spice Girls camera because I own it. You know what'd be cool is if they made a camera that was a mirror, like the whole thing was mirrored? I mean, actually, that's like, what? That's like, Dispo, that's like, what? That's like, disco.

That's very like, that's very like, disposable culture. Like, here's your photo. It only lasts as long as you stay here. No, no, no, no, no, no, I mean, like, I know, I was thinking more, like, you know how, like, people will get like,

uh, Lamborghini and then they do that, that wrapping that's like, super reflective. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking more like that. Like, it would be like a regular old school polaroid that would be wrapped or it would be just done in a highly reflective mirrored material. Which I think would be cool because first,

that feels very gaga to me. And suddenly the coons is me. Yes. Suddenly I am the coons. Okay. I am coons. I am coons. I love that character from Guardians of the Galaxy. I was gonna say sequel to I am Legend. Yeah, okay. Pretty close. Pretty close. I am Coons. Very good. That is that is one of her worst lyrics. I mean, oh my god. I mean, I am a hardcore Gaga. I would die for her, but

there are some clunkers and that is into the top. It's embarrassing. That and all of the born this way, lyrics. Awesome. They're so, I mean, when I go to Pride and you have to hear that song on repeat, like on a loop, it, chola descent just doesn't go away.

Oh my God, also, just, born this way is, is expressed it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, Letter of the law. It really isn't that similar and and but it the vibe is exactly the same and there are some similar chord I mean like the vibe is similar the the music is similar Her career is kind of similar like there's a lot there if you were going to sue anyhow Okay, I don't want to talk about I don't talk about born this way. I want to talk about Blame will I am I want to talk about but I don't want to talk about born this way. I want to talk about, blame will I am. I want to talk about, Cyberpunk, Cuidaba Cyberpunk,

do you want to know what that's going to say? Oh, okay. Good, because I know we had it on our list, and I'm very, so Cyberpunk 2077, the greatest game of all time, was just given, has just been given a huge update. It's a 24 gigabyte update in case you're wondering. I downloaded it last night and played it for the first time.

A couple of things I want to note. First, with this update, which is this is so interesting to me, I have seen bugs in this update that were bugs that people were talking about from the previous version of Sirepunk that I never saw. Like this update in every platform besides Stadia, I have had, I mean, like, like, my problems have multiplied. Yeah. I don't understand. Like, why just don't, if it, what, how did you play this and be like, this is better. This is worth downloading 24k of ice. Yeah. This is worth downloading 24k of I. Yeah, it's very interesting. I would say anyhow, so, okay, so wait.

So it's 24 gigs, and I downloaded it last night and played it. A couple of things I noted. I mean, I immediately saw my frame rates were lower with my settings the way they were. I changed, I mean this is very nerdy, but I'm just going to talk about it. I changed the setting, there's this, it's the DLSS setting, it's an RTX, Nvidia RTX exclusive setting, and it's unclear what it actually is doing. I guess it's doing like this kind of,

doing like it's optimizing the resolution of certain elements in the rendering process, meaning when it's working, you know, things that are further away that obviously you wouldn't have as much clarity at downscales the resolution of those surfaces or whatever. I think, you could tell I'm not an expert here. At any rate, I've been playing it with the auto setting on the whole time.

I switched it to like the ultra performance setting. I cannot find a difference, to be honest with you. Like, I can't tell the difference, and the performance is like crazy better. Like, I'm getting a solid 60 frames per second with everything else at your ultra, everything else at the ultra and the ray tracing set to psycho.

So, whatever it is doing, whatever it's supposed to be doing, whatever I'm like missing, it's unclear to me. I'm looking now, I'm looking here at balance, look, there's a website that has, there's performance. Okay, there's some stuff it's not doing. I see, I'm looking here at balance. Look, there's a website that has performance. Okay, there's some stuff it's not doing. I see. I'm seeing now ultra performance. I see.

Okay. It's interesting the subtlety of the details that are lost and how much of an effect it has. At any rate, I think the point is, so in terms of frame rate, I'm fine. It doesn't seem like a huge problem. I the game still seems very buggy. I mean I don't I don't know what they fixed. They must have fixed some stuff 24 gigs is a lot. They fixed some things

behind the scenes I guess. The what I can say is, the people were doing things that I've never seen them do in the game, which was surprising. People would get into cars and be sitting on the roof of the car. I'd never had that bug before. So it's weirdly, it's like they introduced the bug to my version. That's how it feels.

Do you know what I'm saying? So I don't know what that means. Like I don't know how I should feel about that. But I feel worried, you know. For me, it says that they didn't actually fix that they that there's a lot of like that they don't understand what the problem is, but there's like hot fixes or whatever and they're like rushing to get it done. And I get it like you guys you guys really got a, but I would rather, I honestly 100% would rather wait a year and then them tell me there's a service pack too or whatever that makes it good.

And then I'd be like, okay, great. And then I would play the game. As it stands, I haven't finished the game because even as a professional video game player, I, it's buggy as hell. And it wasn't a very good game and the parts of it that were really good. You, uh, I, it's buggy as hell and it, it wasn't a very good game and the parts of it that were really good. You finish it. You finished it. No, I didn't finish it. Okay. I haven't finished. I watched a playthrough because I was like,

I don't want to play. Oh, oh, yeah. I mean, I'm planning on finishing it and I'm actually trying to finish everything in the game. Like, there's, I, what I will say about cyberpunk and maybe this is either a testament to the, it's either a testament to the game. I know we've talked about it a lot on here, and I'm sure Tony's very bored of hearing about it. It's either a testament to the game or to my lack of other things to play at the moment. I'm like very interested in doing all of the things, all of the side quests. I do find it.

You said this very early on, it's interesting. I thought about it a lot. You said that the side quests in many ways did a better job of telling a story than the main story. And I do think there is something to be said for that some of the ideas and some of the detail in some of these side quests and the way they flesh out your character. I will say what's different in this game than in many other games I've played is in most games of this type, side quests feel really annoying to me.

Like in Fallout, when somebody's like, I can't find my sister. She was last seen in this factory and you're like, Oh, cow, I guess I'll go look for your sister for like 400 credits or whatever. You know, like, I'm always like, this sucks. And I don't want to do this. And I'm not interested in it at all. And there's no reason why I would be, but I'll'll you know, it seems like the game wants me to do it So I'll do it the side quest in this game don't feel that way and and and I I was actually part of the reason I booted it back up was because

Gene Park who writes for the Washington Post It is game stuff for the Washington Post was talking about There's there was this pitch that went out this week to media. We got it. I think we wrote about it. It's like some AR thing where you can watch. You can experience the final moments of like Jesus' life, like while he's on the cross.

Yeah, the same people also did one one and they just announced that they're canceling it. So, you know, everybody who's about to hear this, it's okay. We fixed it. Oh, yeah, we got him. Anyhow, it's really dumb. It's like, but it was like Martin Luther King's last moments before he was assassinating. Like shit like that.

The one that they said that they stopped that I think is the most egregious and should put this all into perspective is that they wanted to do George Floyd's. Yeah, last moment. Yes, it's insane. I mean, these people should go to jail. Just the way I'm speechless. Like, how can you even develop an idea so bad? Sometimes I'm like, I marvel at the depth of other people's bad ideas. I'm like, I would never occur to me to come up with something so absolutely outrageously stupid.

And yet, you've like completely nailed it. And it's almost, it's almost, you know, respectable. I mean, it's a horrible idea, but it's such a bad, it's such an extreme bad idea that you almost have to hand it. You got it. You don't in fact got a hand into them, but you kind of got a hand into them because it's like you've, you're like a, you's like you're like a genius of bad ideas. Like other people have regular bad ideas,

but yours are world-changing, bad. And that's really impressive. Anyhow, yes, so this company is doing, and so Gene Park was tweeting about it. He was like, this is literally one of the side quests in Cyberpunk and one of the ones that I thought was really disturbing to play through. And so he ruined it for me, which sucks, which is no,

I like Jean a lot and I think he's great and and everybody should follow him on Twitter. But but I was like, oh, well, that sounds really in like, what is he getting at that I did not. It's one that I have avoided playing and actually like I played through the beginning of it. And I was like, you know what what I don't want to do this mission because it starts with you having to like kill somebody and it's like the whole setup is like you don't know why you're killing them and the person who's like wants you to do it seems really sketchy and you're kind of like you know because you're like a bad in the game you're kind of like a mercenary so you'll do I mean at least the character I'm

playing is a mercenary who will do whatever. And so I was like, I backed out of it the first time and then I was like, okay, I'll go do this, I guess, because I kind of want to see what he's talking about. And that sort of brings me to why I ended up playing Cyberpunk again after so long I haven't played it in a while, probably a couple of months or something. And it was, it's an interesting storyline. It's, it's, it is legitimately disturbing. I will say, there are a few moments so far in the game. I mean, now we're talking, I mean, how long has it been out six months? It's been out a long time. There are moments in this game that I'm like, wow, this is super next level storytelling storytelling super next level experience.

There's many talented people worked on this game, which is not cohesively a good game. Yeah, like there's moments of real brilliance and real like you kind of step back and go, this is a this is a this is a work of art. And then there's a lot of stuff in between those moments that you're like, this is not a work of art. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, it's interesting. Anyhow, so, so, anyhow, that's my Cyberpunk 1.2 update review, which is, it's still buggy and it seems to hurt frame rate and maybe it's less buggy than it was before, but, you know, I'm, it's still like issues like you are talking and then someone else is talking at the same time and it doesn't show the subtitles. I had a whole sequence

where I was in a car and the guys like watch this video and the entire video played with no sound. And then and it's like there's no subtitles and then they and then my character is like talking about the video and I'm like, okay, I guess I don't know what that was on the video and there's no way to, I guess I don't know what that was on the video and there's no way to go back and redo it, you know? Anyhow, so long story short, let's see what the 1.3 update holds because the 1.2 update does not get us very far

but I still think it's an intriguing game. I wish I wish it were a better game. I want it to be a better game. I'll continue to play it. But speaking of games, do you want to talk about the legend of self-story that we have on the site? Yeah, can you set it up for me? I actually haven't read. I'm embarrassed to say I've not read the story yet, but talk to me about this. So in the 90s, which is how all good stories begin, in the 90s, Then the 90s, which is how all good stories begin. In the 90s, Nintendo wanted to make a Super Nintendo with a CD add-on, and they went to

Sony and they made a deal, and they were like, we're going to call it the Nintendo PlayStation. And then that deal obviously fell apart, and you can assume all the things that happened since then. But because they didn't want to work with Sony, they went to Phillips and said, hey, Phillips, will you do the CD-ROM attachment for us? And which ended up never coming out. And Phillips said sure, but we want to use Nintendo characters in games for our CDI platform, which was terrible.

And Nintendo said, who cares? Your thing is horrible, it will fail, who cares And they were right. However, however, they did go ahead and make some games. They made a Mario game and they made the Legend of Zelda games and they are among the worst games in my opinion ever to ever have Nintendo branding on them. They're basically like FMV cartoon games, but they're very cheaply made. I mean, it's just, it's not good. And yet, obviously, because everything the internet is wide and vast, there's lots of people on it.

People love it. Like people have like a real fondness for their memories of the terrible legend of Zelda games. And so a group of people have like fans have done complete HD remasters that run on PC of these games. And now they're going forward to make spiritual sequels to these games that nobody likes except them apparently. And, you know, it's, the internet's amazing because we find, we keep finding that there's literally a community for everything.

I just, I can't help but think that like Nintendo is running around telling people you're not allowed to place smash brothers in a competition. But apparently they have no issue with this. It's just, I don't know. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful, it's a beautiful fans are so, what they came accomplished. They're all, look, look at what they did with the cider cut.

Here's a, I saw a story, that's a Tim Plyley, deviate from this, actually, hold on. Let me, before I deviate to the story that I want to talk about, which I just remembered. So have you played, are these play, you've played these? Can you play them? Yeah. I mean, they're basically just the CDI games.

And a CDI game is like, it's like a choose your adventure, kind of like, yeah, it's like an interactive, basically. Yes. Uh. Huh. an interactive basically? Yes. Uh, huh. This is, I'm just perusing the images and the story. I mean, the art is like a, like a high schooler in an, in an illustration class. Oh my God. I love, I love hobbits.

This is so good. I, yeah, if you have the time, go to inputnet.com.com. And look at these pictures, because they released this. Nintendo had to say, okay, to this one. CDI was like a standard format that was available on like, it was like an interactive CD format. You could get it on a That's a Cassidy player that you bought for your to listen to music on

They had CDI features you could connect it till like a TV correct? Yeah, a few different yes a few different groups have attempted to do this over the years and they've all been obviously really bad because If you're Dedicated game console designed from the ground up to be great at gaming also plays DVDs great But if your DVD player just happens to play games that I can guarantee you the games are not gonna be good and a few different groups People have tried this but CDI was one of the earliest attempts. Yeah And it was you know, I mean How many choose your own adventure FMV games do you play not on those consoles? So imagine a console that's only dedicated to that, and it wasn't, you know, they had

no install base. So, the quality obviously isn't there. But I mean, it does speak to the like not only the strength of Nintendo's IP, but also just like, there is someone who will apologize for anything. So yeah, like with the Snyder cut, there is a group of people for whom that is the greatest film that has ever been released. Well, I'm just have to appreciate there. Let me tell you about that, actually.

Never. So you want to talk about the Snyder cut? Let's talk about the Snyder cut because I don't think we actually have discussed the Snyder cut post me having seen all of this Snyder Cut. And so, so first off, first off, before we get into my opinion of the Snyder Cut, which we're going to, I guess, now, I want to say that I just saw somebody talking about the talking about the performance of the Snyder Cut. And apparently, it's very poorly. I mean, in the grand scheme of things that are, you know, what's driving people to HBO Max and what people are watching there, it seems like it's not the Snyder Cut. Like, if you can imagine, it turns out-

People love HBO Max. People love HBO Max, but it turns out they don't really care about the Snyder Cut. No. That's what the numbers I've seen. Now I can be wrong, but just, this is based on some reporting. Well, I mean, you gotta also get those black and white numbers

because I'm sure you're gonna make real difference. Here's something, okay, this is, you know, based on some reporting. Well, you, I mean, you got to also get those black and white numbers, because I'm sure you're gonna make a real difference. Here's something, okay, this is a, you just as sleek viewing numbers, only one third finished, this is from a screen rant. Only one third finished the Snyder cut, which is not good. But there's something in the four hour movie, you know? Yeah, well, I started and I watched about a third of it,

and I'm like, well, okay, saw that Anyhow, so there's some new reporting that It was not a driver for them of either people signing up or people really watching as much not as much as something like Wonder Woman or Godzilla versus Kong or Judas in the black Messiah have been Which is very interesting. So just in the black Messiah have been, which is very interesting. So it's the fourth out of those movies for viewership. So that should give you an interesting little peek into what's going on. But I watched the Snyder cut, okay?

And it is very long. It is, you know, like everything in that universe, it feels like it was airdropped in on people with like a bunch of stuff that we're supposed to like understand. You know, it's like if they had released an Avengers movie before doing all of the origin movies. Yeah.

If they released an Avengers movie and it wasn't in any capacity entertaining. Well, no, but okay, so, okay, let's, I'll give you, let's take the entertainment factor out of it for a second. Let's just talk about, let's just talk about how you communicate things to people, okay? They throw you in the deep end with a lot of Celtic chanting.

I mean, I think that like, I think that Zack Snyder was going to use this based on the four hour version of this movie I saw. He was going to use this based on the four-hour version of this movie I saw. He was going to use it to give the characters of the Flash and Cyborg a backstory, which is like, those are their own, absolutely their own movies if you want them to be. If you really care, doing it like, okay, you have three characters that you've introduced us to. Obviously.

There's literally a five-season television show about the Flash's orch. I mean, there's, look, Batman? Batman very well known so we meet old Batman superman I pretty fucking well known I mean there's but there were two Superman movies right before this right there's two or so one man of steel I guess then Batman versus Superman counts the second one horrible one of the worst of all times I mean truly one of the worst movies ever made true just staggeringly bad So then they're like okay, and then wonder woman I guess was was released Aquaman was after this movie right?

Yeah, yeah, so so they were like So they were like let's cram and Aquaman's like his characters like it's like why is even in this movie? It doesn't make any sense.'s like, feels like out, everything feels out of sequence. And the point is, they're like, okay, now we've gone from the movie where Batman and Superman were fighting to a movie where we introduce, you know, three-ish new characters and now they're all teaming up and also they're fighting these intergalactic villains and also the intergalactic villains have some boxes that are very important because, actually, not the main villain

that's in the movie, but there's another bigger villain behind him. And if we get to the second and third movies in this series, you'll see how it all makes sense. And it's like, why would I get to the second and third in the series? Because you've given me nothing to latch onto in the way of meaningful storytelling. It's like, it feels like things are just happening. And it's like, no one really and it's like no one really knows why, and no one knows why.

I mean, just bad writing. This version of it improves some things against the Joss Weeden version, I mean, which was a horror, I mean, absolutely the horror. The bar is on the floor. The bar is on the floor. It's like almost an unwatchable movie.

It's so stupid and bad. This makes it like, it's sort of interesting to see like the choices that were made. But like, as an actual movie, no matter what cut you look at, no matter what story you were, these guys were trying to tell. It's like, it's garb, it's bad. It's a bad movie with bad character development, with bad stories, bad writing, bad dialogue, a stupid special effects, horrible villains. It's just not a good movie. The fuck the fuck up thing is that like,

someone somewhere expected people to just shovel this in. Like, like, people at this company, executives at the company, or Zack Snyder, whoever were like, not the four hour cut, I understand that's like some weird, whatever it is. You know, it's were like, not the four hour cut, I understand that's like some weird, whatever it is. You know, it's just like, there's no amount of fixing that you can do to this. It's bad, it's just bad.

And his whole concept of these characters is bad and poorly executed. And it really is a testament to how wouldn't an amazing job they've done with the Marvel stuff. I mean, I hated the Marvel stuff originally. I was like, I'm not interested in these dumb super hero movies. Like they don't do anything for me. And over time, they have actually turned it into like a kind of compelling,

not still like absolute popcorn, very low importance, not like, I understand it's like the biggest cultural thing in the world, but it's still like, you know, it doesn't, it's not like more or less important than the Fast and Furious series Which is also just absolute popcorn action movie stuff, you know Well, it may be a little bit more important because of the kind of legacy of these characters and how they've Gina changed our cultural sort of view viewpoints one other thing I want to say actually which sort of Stuf tales into talking a little bit about Falcon of the Winter Soldier, which I wasn't planning on talking about, but I want to.

I do think like people need to give, people really need to start thinking more about like these characters having stories. I mean, I think we've gotten, we are, I mean, maybe it's the pandemic, but I think we're getting really past the point where the epic two and a half hour movie where a super baddie is fought and it has to be fixed in two and a half hours is like starting to be pretty fatiguing for these types of movies.

It's just, you know, we've seen, it's not very interesting to be like, okay, what if it was a big gray monster and this guy had a crisis of his faith in himself, but he comes through at the end with an innovative way to stop the big gray monster and another superhero pops up for a cameo. But this time his power is dinosaurs.

Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, I've seen this movie so many times that like, yes, a cool action sequence. Great, which is why I loved Godzilla versus King Kong because it was so stupid. It wasn't even attempting to tell a good story. It was literally like, we're gonna set up a series of justifications for cool things to happen.

And like, fine, fine. You know what you're doing? That is fine. I'm at home. It cost me nothing. I am fine with this. What I'm not fine with is going to newly reopened movie theaters, paying $45 to sit down and watch someone do the exact same movie

I've seen a hundred times, but this time their power is pasta. Yeah, I mean like I'm all for You know, I think you could do innovative things with the genre, but I think we're starting to get to the point now We're even the innovative things are like kind of Getting wrote like but like wand division the anything is possible in this universe So come up with something I've never seen right if I if I were to pitch a movie in which I take place in a universe in which anything is possible And I have an unlimited budget and I pitch another spider-man origin story like I'm going to shoot you I think I think, um, one division is a great example of what you can do with the genre. Um, when you break out of the movie stuff and when you give these characters some room to

breathe and you actually use like comic book storytelling the way it is meant to be which is comic book storytelling is at its best when it's really weird and unexpected and totally like outrageous. And so, you know, the movies don't, they do that a little bit, but they tend to focus on the parts where the comic book characters fight. And that's only like a very, very small part of actual comic book storytelling. And so, so, on that point, so WandaVision was super ambitious and I think a really great TV show and a really great entertainment experience and did things with those characters

that other comic book shows or even movies haven't done or couldn't do. So then you get to Falcon in the Winter Soldier which is the follow-up Marvel Disney plus TV show, which follows the story of Sam Wilson, Falcon, and Bucky Barnes, the Winter Soldier. And they're like, you know, it's like this kind of odd couple. They don't really like each other, but they have to team up to stop, you know, to fight crime, basically. And it's like everything basically. And it's like everything that wandered, it's like wand division was all of the things that this isn't. And it's like.

This is an action movie that is taking 10 hours to play out. Yeah, that you've already seen. And not a good one. And not with very suspect politics, by the way, we talk about. I mean, yeah, the villain. Well, the villain of the, well, okay, the ostensible villain that we've been presented so far is an organization called the Flag Smashers. And their goal is to create a unified one-world government.

And the way they explain this is like, they care about people more than nations and they wanna break down borders and they want the people to rise up. It's definitely like a weird like, is this Disney arguing against globalization? Yeah, it's basically that. And also, it's got this, well, let's throw some things in there that people are familiar with. You know, it's like sort of like, well, they're kind of talking about socialism, but then they're talking about this weird globalization, which is absolute like conspiracy theory,

fodder, and then, but then they're also talking about how they have to like crush the weak and do display. Yeah, they're like, they're like blowing, they're like blowing a lot of people up and like have super serum and stuff. Like it's not, it's very, it's very like incoherent. But also, they are, it's this idea that, for one second of the show, I was like, this is sort of interesting.

They have this dynamic where they're talking about the blip, which brings everybody back, right? If you know the Marvel universe, it brings everybody back who was killed, spoiler alert, killed in Avengers Infinity War. Half of all of everybody in the universe is snapped out of existence. And then the blip brings them back. So then it's an interesting idea because they're really playing with it a lot. They didn't want division. They're doing it here. Clearly, it's going to be a major plot point of the upcoming films. But they're like, what happens when all of these people return,

who were not here for five years, and life had to basically go on. I mean, it's very leftovers, like the show leftovers, but it's like what happens when all those people were turning and selling, like the planet is like, just like was set up for some other existence and now you're reintroducing these people from the old existence. And so there was a moment where I was like,

oh, this is an interesting, the villains of this show are like, we liked it better when we had more resources. I mean, to me, the core of this show are like, we like to better when we had more resources. I mean, to me, the core of the villain's argument is, I don't get the whole one world government shit because what they're really saying is like, we want the resources that are now being distributed. It's actually like an anti-socialism message in a way.

They're like, the world was better when before the blip, because we all had more resources for people, and so everybody was doing better. And then all the people came back and now they're distributing those resources to those people and they don't like it. Like that was my impression of their actual argument.

And I was sort of like, okay, that is an interesting villains perspective. Like, it's an interesting idea, but it's difficult to justify in a world where our constant Conversation is oh we have enough. Oh, we have enough money. It's not just not research not well distributed It's just ten people have access to it. Yes, so it's fucking human beings have access to almost all of our wealth That's probably bad. So it's really weird to then come around and be like, we need to kill half of the poor. What? We just, it's weird. It's just not a good, it's not a relevant or good idea. It's very weird like because the concept of the flagsmasters,

where they, when you hear the heroes talk about what they want, where they're like, they want to bring the world together under one government or something. And then, but then the people are like, we want to get, we thought it was better before, like when we had more stuff, it's like just, again, incoherent. But in any rate, the show, I don't want to spend too much time on this because we've already spent a lot of time on it. But like the show's bad, okay? And I'm upset, I'm upset because like, it could be good.

It could be really good. I like these characters. I like the interplay between Falcon and Bucky Barnes, you know, Sam and Bucky. I think it's a fun buddy. Kind of, you know, they hate each other, but they love each other sort of thing. They've done some things that I think suck so bad. Like actually are just I don't know what they were thinking. For instance, again, I'm gonna just say spoiler alert if you haven't watched the most recent episode of the Falcon of the Winter Soldier. If you're not caught up, they bring back one of the best villains from the movies, which is this guy, his name is Captain Zemo

or Baron Zemo or Baron Zemo Well, he's Baron Zemo now. He always was in the comics, but in the in the film Civil War He is the central villain and he's like a basically like a guy a Sicovian it actually took a really great story in the hole like when you look at all the stuff they do with WandaVision, and if you look at Age of Ultron as kind of a backdrop for a lot of the more recent storytelling, and what goes on, like politically with the Avengers that happens in Civil War, where it's this huge debate about like policing the police in a way. But like, in the movie,

Civil War, this guy is, his family is killed in this horrible Avengers led disaster in Sicovia, this fake country, and he is on a mission, he's become obsessed with destroying the Avengers and destroying super soldiers and destroying anybody who's like Captain America or anybody Who's got special abilities and and basically like breaking apart the Avengers and his concept is like The way to do it is like to basically destroy them from within and he like has some information

That is kind of like a splintering piece of information for the group and it's like a really it's actually like one of the best movies and it's And the story is actually pretty, it doesn't feel like a typical Marvel movie. It almost feels like a, like a James Bond movie or a, like a spy thriller, you know, and he's an awesome villain because he's pretty sympathetic, but he's also like, you know, the bad guy, but he's also a person. It's not a fucking superhero. It's not an alien. It's not an AI. He's like a guy, you know? And they fucking put him in this show. And they basically are trying to like retcon him. I mean, I know that he is a long history in the comic books of being different than the character they present in this movie, but they basically are now like, oh, he's actually like fun and funny and he's also rich and like he doesn't care that much anymore about his dead family and all that psychovia stuff.

And actually he's like like a funny, he's like doing comic relief. And as I guess going to like make an escape and become a villain later, but it's like they basically ruin the fucking character And I don't know if they're aware of how bad they ruin the character That's the thing that is like concerning to me, you know? It's sort of like watching the more recent Star Wars movies and going like do they know what they're doing with like the characters that people actually care about here Like do they understand the problems or do they just, are they just blind to it? Anyhow, so this is my review of Falcon of the Winter Soldier, which is like, it's not only a bad and unenjoyable show to watch, given all of the things it could be, which is a bummer, but it also is like they're like doing dumb stuff in the, in the universe of the Marvel

cinematic canon, which I think has potentially, you know, very negative potential effects. I just can't wait until we finally just unite under the space jam to universe. Yes. And we can say that the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been retired and subsumed by space jam too. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm ready. Space gem. Can you tell me first what the first space gem was about because I've never seen it? Okay. So in the original space gem movie.

You like, you like grab a, grab a drink, pull up a chair. So in the original space gem movie, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Colonel, sorry, it's Colonel Zemo. I'm sorry, it's Colonel Zemo. Not Captain, Colonel, all right, go ahead. Colonel Zemo's, you know, fried chicken. Okay, so I don't know where to begin explaining the Space Jam universe, but I will just tell you things and then you can put them together. The world of Space Jam is totally the normal world,

except in the middle of is totally the normal world, except in the middle of the world is Loonie Tunes cartoons. I don't know why. In the middle, actually in the center of the planet. It's Godzilla versus King Kong style, Hollywood. So you mean there's a hollow earth and inside the hollow earth is where the Loonie Tunes live. The Loonie Tunes characters.

And they make a living by being in cartoons and movies and stuff So it's met us so they're like we we exist in reality and our day jobs are that we're in cartoons for humans Yes And so I like it so far Michael Jordan quits basketball to be a baseball player that really happened Yes, yeah, and he hates it and he's really bad I think that happened too, actually. It did. But then on another planet is all cartoon planet,

where a Danny DeVito type alien wants to enslave, to create the greatest theme park of the world, of the universe, the greatest theme park in the universe. And so he's like the collector from the Marvel universe? Yes. And in order to get more people to the park, he wants to enslave the Looney Tunes

to do their performances at the park. Yeah, that's it. Which is very funny because at the same time that this movie came out with a Warner Brothers company, sold the Looney Tunes rights to Six Wags. So, hilarious. Um, there's a commentary on their business deals. Yes.

So, to go and capture the Loonitunes, he sends down aliens, and the aliens realize that they're too small and puny to take on Loonitunes. So when they go to Earth, the greatest warriors, because again, it's the 90s, the greatest warriors and soldiers they can find are the NBA basketball players. So they steal their powers. And so nobody in the NBA has their powers because of the magic basketball. And then the looney tunes tell the aliens

with their basketball powers that it is Earth custom that in order to beat them, they have to beat them at basketball. Okay. And so, or that happened out of order, but in any event. Alright, whatever. Oony tunes, the Oony tunes, they're only person that they have is basketball players who weren't playing basketball,

AKA Michael Jordan. Right. So they pull Michael Jordan down into tune world, and they teach him to use tune powers, and they do their basketball game, and Bill Murray shows up and there's no explanation for that and you've got a new man from Seinfeld. He's there and that's a lot of fun.

And Lola Bunny is a very sexy, very sexy, very fun. Yeah, Lola Bunny. Now there's been a lot of Lola Bunny stuff. I hear she's very hot. In the original movie, she is a real piece. That's a real piece of bunny ass. Yeah, okay. And then in the new movie, Saul covered up and she's strong, which is so dumb,

because you could just make bugs sexy and even it out. But then in the new, so in the new movie, they're doing a shared universe instead of lunitunce universe. It's like fictional world, then it's all in computer servers or something. But've they've made it woke so they've said like no sexy bunnies and also no pepe la pu because that's rapy and And all of that but a lot of the properties that they're bringing in in their like meta universe are like a clockwork orange Which is really really? Wait, they're actually introducing a clockwork orange characters or something into this? Yes.

Oh, that's very unusual. I mean, I did not see that coming. All of WB's character, Pantheon. Oh, I was right. OK, right. OK, I saw the trailer and it's like a lot of cameos. I didn't catch clockwork orange, but I'll admit, I'm intrigued now that you've mentioned it.

I'm more interested in seeing it than I was a few minutes ago. But before I finish this explanation of Space Jam, I just wanted to recommend that everybody look up Rachel Bloom has a musical number about explaining the plot of Space Jam. Is Rachel Bloom the girl from Crazy X Girlfriend? Yes. Okay. She does a musical number where she explains the plot of Space Jam and it's about five to seven minutes long and it is so delightful.

So that'll catch you up nice and fast. So it's time to Cartoon Ali's go for that. Oh, that's so much fun. Oh, haha. And then sells, so they challenge them to work in a basketball. And then the aliens go to a basketball game. There was a talent of the players in the NBA. And then they become monsters, no, monsters.

They beat you to a slasper in a major way. They did the way. Michael Jordan is playing golf, a very burdened filmer. But yeah, so there's this expanded Pantheon universe now where they'll be playing basketball together. Okay, well that sounds fun. I caught some of the low, I was forced to Google low-low bunny because I saw people on the T.L. talking about low-low bunny and I had to know.

And then I was like, oh yeah, this is a pretty big design change for low-low bunny. I personally, this maybe it says about, you know, something about who I am, I find the new low-low bunny to be sexier than the old low-low bunny. That's just one man's opinion on a cartoon bunny. But, you know, different strokes for different folks, literally. And that's just how we play the game. Now, moving on to the next subject, because I have literally nothing to say about space jam. You don't have anything to say about space jam. I mean, I think I move. I think I'm excited.

Uh, you know, it's sort of, to me, a new space jam is sort of like another reflection of the power of fandom. I think somebody somewhere was like, I mean, looney tunes this time and putting them in real world. So they look all, I'm really, like, three to eight. I think, I think, like, the original Space Jam was not a hit, correct? It was a monster hit.

No, was it? Yes, Space Jam didn't know. The nominal. Is that true? Let me see. Yes. Well, why did they take them so long to do a sequel if it was such a big hit?

Because, two thing, one, it was not a monster hit. It cost $80 million to make it and made $250 million at the box office. That's an okay hit. Because tooth it one now it was not a monster hit it cost 80 million dollars to make it a made 250 million dollars at the box office. That's an okay hit If you factor in marketing cost and how to do on VHS and merchant well, let me just see What the what this says about box office? Uh-huh 90 million

Dimash lit it be 27 million this base jam friends franchise is estimated to have generated $6 billion in total right and right, including merchandise, air Jordans, bugs, bunny shirts, happy meals, mugsie boogs, jerseys, and Tweety gowns. All right. Well, okay, fine. I don't remember space jam being a big hit, but you know what? It was a different, I was very busy being in the doll at that time and it probably wasn't for me. It's a movie based on a Nike commercial.

So clearly it made, like, if there was a lot of product plays in the movie. That makes sense. So I think, like, I think it's great that we were revisiting, you know, here's the problem with everything that's modern, to be honest with you. Everything modern, especially when they're like, let's reboot this or whatever, everybody's trying so hard

to do this, like, meta self-aware shit. I mean, to your point about the clockwork orange stuff I think it's like there is this unbelievable Trend of that is so fatiguing and getting so old of like people going like it's for kids But like it's actually for adults and we're putting all the stuff in it's like really meta And we're making it like self-aware and the characters are breaking the fourth wall and like it was fun when it was a magic trick like when Shrek was novel. This is no longer not Shrek was 20 years ago. That's what I'm saying. I think it's like I think it's like I guess I just get less excited. I mean I obviously watch I've watched a lot of

kids content with Zelda and you know I think the ones that are trying really hard to be kind of like up to appeal to adults are often like don't end up being not that fun for kids and not that interesting. And I've seen her react like, you know, kind of like, you can just, the kids can kind of tell when you, you know, people are like, oh, I'd really rather be making an adult film.

But like, I just think it's just, well, it's just this modern idea that you have to please all audiences that you can't just make something that's more pure. I think maybe it'll be good, maybe it'll be great. It's very unlikely I'll watch it. That's all I have to say. I think it ties into what we were saying

about the Falcon and the Winter Soldier, which is like if you to make an action movie about political overtones, cool. But this is a superhero universe that already has established politics and you're shoe horning a lot of stuff in, then it's going to ruin the characters. Yeah, I agree. And not to go back to the Marvel stuff, but I do think there was, I think something like really interesting about one division because it was like, okay, hey, let's talk about our world, but we're not going to make it about

our politics. We're going to make it about... It was unapologetic. Yeah, but it was also set, it played with reality in a way where it wasn't going to the most obvious and heavy-handed options for how to bring some of the issues of their universe into the issues of our universe. I mean, it played with pop culture and there was obviously a backdrop of war and a backdrop of conflict and a backdrop of politics, but it wasn't overtly like, hey, or socialism

bad or whatever. I mean, I just, you do one just worries, you know, I'm not saying that they're doing that in the new space jam film, but you do worry if the clockwork orange characters are in that like who the movie's actually for and what they're trying to say with it. And maybe don't say anything. Maybe just make an entertaining fucking movie about cartoons playing basketball, you know. Well speaking of cartoons, can we talk quickly about NFTs? Yes. The...

And FTs, what I'm calling it. NFTs are over, the bubble has burst. I think that's true. I think that... I mean, I think we talked about crispy-creaming things on this podcast, and I would say that nothing has been crispy-creamed faster or harder besides crispy-cream than the NFT market. It's like, if everybody can make an NFT they don't have any value. Stuff like people is absolutely bubble shit, like hardcore bubble shit. And you know at the

end of the day, NFTs are really designed to get people who are already super duper rich even richer by praying on people who have less money and less understanding of what the fuck they are. And and perhaps at the top of this, most importantly, most NFTs that are produced are garbage. They're garbage art. They're bad art. And that to me is the most offensive problem with NFTs right now is that it's a lot of bad shit that sucks being spewed out.

It is scramble for fast money. That's my review of NFTs. Yeah, I think NFTs, I don't know. I never really saw how this was gonna be sustainable, but I do think that I chatted with the team at Blanko's Block Party from Mythical Games, which is a sort of Minecraft meets skylanders, meets row blocks sort of world world where it's like a game where you can build anything and you can create games within the game and

like it's full of possibilities but all of the DLC style like skins, vinyl figures, characters, all of that, they're all NFTs. So if you earn an unlock something or buy something you can then resell it in their marketplace so you're not like out money. So if a kid buys like a million skins and their parents get upset, they can then flip those skins and get their money back. Or you could buy a limited edition skin

and then in five years, if the game's still going, as presumably, nobody's had access to that for five years. You could sell it if it'd be worth money. Yeah, I think that's kind of interesting. I think that that is the next step for NFTs and for in-game stuff. This is, all right, fine. I don't mind purchasing things,

but what I hate is that I don't even like that when I buy a game, I can't lend it to a friend. Like if I buy a game digitally, I can't let someone borrow it. Like I really enjoy giving people games. And like I love being like this was great. I played it once, I'm never gonna play it again. You someone borrow it. Like I really enjoy giving people games. And like I love being like, this was great, I played it once, I'm never gonna play it again, you should play it.

But I think the idea of like tying something to it that can give it inherent value, I understand like why that's useful here. What I don't understand is why it would be useful for things like a picture that like anyone can look at the picture. Well, like, why do you need to own the rights to Jack's tweet?

I actually, I actually, well, that is, you know, really dumb. I actually think there's something, there was originally something really interesting and there are copies, right? I think that's really interesting. And I think you can make the same argument about, now look, an original painting versus a print or an original photo, the photo developed by the photographer versus the prints made, there's different value to those, but prints have value, you know, numbered prints,

sign prints, those have value, and certainly, originals have value. I mean, obviously, what you don't have is like, there is no, there's something, you know, like, okay, this I can take it out of rotation and put it somewhere, like, you really can't do that because a digital copy is a digital copy. And it's a perfect copy. And a perfect copy. But the idea that one can be have a token attached to it that signifies that that is the genesis of anything else

and that everything else is a copy of it is an interesting concept that I believe has potential long-term value, particularly in things like in art right where Where when you make digital art there really is no way to kind of you literally can say oh I have it on a flash drive Attack to a monitor that it sits in a gallery and if you want other than psychologically What does that what use does that have well? I mean you get into that argument about what what? What use is it if it's like a

Photograph the original photograph photograph that the photographer developed versus a print that he signed and numbered. You know, he's like, does it matter? Is the same photo, same technique used to create it. But like, I mean, you know, there are varying degrees. There's all sorts of ways to think about it. But like, the idea that something can have value beyond its physicality is obviously it's truth, right?

We know that that exists. So, that's true. I mean, if it was something that I really cared about, like if someone was like, here's, you know, the first gold master file of BioShock and you own the rights to it. Yeah. And it's signed.

Like, I probably would take it. I wouldn't pay that amount of money. Like, I'm not paying $69 rights to it. Yeah. And it signed like I probably would take it. I wouldn't pay that amount of money. Like I'm not paying $69 million for any. Right. Sure. But, but it's going to be a million thing is a little ridiculous. I mean, we went from, we went from this being a kind of new medium that people are experiencing and playing around with to, oh, it's Picasso level value.

And that's stupid. I mean, that's not, yeah. People's not fucking Picasso. His shit is not worth what Picasso should. It's worth obviously Picasso shit is worth. Obviously the market dictates and you could say, well, if people say it's worth that, then it is. But like the reality is it may be worth it one time as like a bubble hype moment. It will not be worth that over and over and over again.

I will, I'm making a lot of predictions of this podcast. I think people will not be selling $69 million pieces of art for very long, okay? But there is something interesting to me about that idea that there's this is the original. And I think that has value, and I believe that it's a value that is worth exploring and people, and I think there is a way to invest in it and to spend money in that way that makes a lot of sense if you look at what has happened in the art world. I just think there are arguments that,

you can attach value to things that otherwise, a painting is not the cost of the canvas and the paints, right? And yes, of course, it's the original art that you can buy, but it's also not the cost of the original art that you're buying. You're buying the idea that that original piece has value. So in the same way in NFT, you can say that original piece has value. Everything else is a copy. This one is the original. It is ordained by the artist, right?

Actually, it's just a conversation. I think Felix Sam and somebody else on Twitter were talking about it. And somebody compared, you know, NFTs originality to like, you know, Catholicism, like to religion, kind of believing in this, you know, this ascribing sort of like something to an inanimate object, like almost like the wafer being Jesus' body in the act of eating it, in that act of that religious ceremony, you agree that it did something and it clearly is not. And there's like, there's an interesting conversation to have around that stuff. I think that's sort of like fun to think about and talk about. The point is people ascribe value to things that are copies all the time.

And they ascribe value to things that they believe are the originals, even if there are versions of it that are copies all the time, and they ascribe value to things that they believe are the originals, even if there are versions of it that are exactly the same. It's like you can buy, there is like, it's like the not little Nasak Satan shoes, there's 666 of them, and those have value because even if you make another one, it's not the same thing.

At any rate, getting back to my point, but the problem is that what happened is that instead of becoming, instead of galleries developing around this and schools of art developing around them in like real art people getting involved, kind of like not that, I mean real, you know, but like I think people who have critical opinions

that have value and artists who have work that is established as having value. It's hard, you know, it's it's just got very muddy very fast. It just became like, well if anybody can do an NFT, then what's the what is an NFT? You know, if anybody is if everybody now is an artist that can sell their piece of art for $50,000, then what's the value of any of it? Right? The point about art and what makes it valuable is exclusivity and end exclusivity, not just because there's only one of them, but because also a small group of people decide which ones are valuable and which ones aren't. And a small group of people create those ones that have value. And listen, you can argue about the politics and the economics and the culture of the art world. I mean, there's plenty to not like about it. But what's true, and it has been historically true, is that art is it's hard to create value in art. And when you do that value can be huge. And now it's like if it's easy to create value in art,

then like nothing really has value. And what is it? What are we doing? Why are we spending money on it? Why did people get $69 million and somebody else got $6? You know? Does it have $69 million? $69 million.

At any rate, so I think for the time being NFTs are kind of over over I could see them I mean, I think that we're gonna just see a slow decline of the value of any of that stuff I do think we could see a reconstitution when The right people in the right way get involved, you know, I think But we're not there yet. It's oversaturated and I think that most like Real quote-unquote real artists and some some great artists have done it But like most real artists are kind of keeping away from it

and they know that like they devalue themselves if they start doing that stuff. So until that doesn't feel that way, it's gonna be very hard to make a, very hard to make a, to make it seem, you know, like something that has value. Long, yeah, long lasting and legitimate value. All right. Well, let's move on to nice things.

What's your nice things for this week? Well, that's a great question. I think my, my main nice thing has been I've been playing a lot of Castlevania Symphony of the Night. And I, I started playing it. I was like, Oh, it's available for like iOS and I downloaded it on my iPad and I was like, well, I have this 8-bit doke controller. I'll just like connect this.

And I was playing it like, I'd end the day and I'd go kind of sit in my favorite chair and just grab the iPad and play it, sitting there and it was super fun. And then I was like, wait, I bought this for my PlayStation and I have it, and I should just play it on the TV where it'll be bigger and better, and it's easier to do. And so I've just been playing it kind of religiously, and it's such a nice break from modern gaming, and it's also just so incredibly fun and inventive.

I mean, I played the game that precedes it, which is Rondo of Blood, which is like Castlevania, Dracula X, is that's known. I played that obsessively when I was a kid, like all the way through. Like, I think I did, like, I didn't get all of it complete, but like 98% of it complete. And this game is in a very similar vein. It's non-linear. It is.

There are tons of weird secrets. There's tons of weird little Easter eggs in it. It's just like wildly inventive, incredibly frustrating sometimes. The map levels are massive and meandering and have all of these parts that are like, you can't get to unless you get other things. And it just reminds me that there is a type of game,

I mean, I love Dead Cells, we've talked about Dead Cells a lot. It just reminds me that there is a type of game. I mean, I love Dead Cells. We've talked about Dead Cells a lot. It's obviously in that vein. But there's a type of game like that, that the Castlevania side scroller that just is, it's just inescapably great when it's done right. And so, yeah, my nice thing is play Castlevania Assembly of the Night in whatever format you can get it's just inescapably great when it's done right. And so yeah, that's, my nice thing is,

play Castlevania Assembly of the Night in whatever format you can get it in. I own it in so many formats. It's such a great game. I know, same now. I have at least like, maybe three. My nice things are one, we never got to really talk about it, but Montero called me by your name by Lil Naseth.

Take over the world, please. So good. What a joy. What a... Anyone who called him a one hit wonder suffer. This is just great. Well, it's like it's not only just the yet, it's not just the music, but just the whole... Even telekals are mad.

I mean, making Christians mad, always great stuff. I mean, Satan stuff, hilarious. I mean, his response is like his Twitter great stuff. I mean, Satan stuff, hilarious. I mean, his response is, like, his Twitter existence and his responses to people is just so like, where you want a person to be a celebrity to be at this point. It's just, it's magical. The other great thing is that two days ago, I went and did my final consultation.

I am going to be getting some plastic surgery in a month. Oh, no. What do you do? Very, very excited. I, no. What are you doing? Very, very excited. I, for a long time, I've had a lot of, like, excess skin and scar tissue and excess breast tissue that I just didn't ever really feel comfortable about. And I've spent basically, like, every year since I turned 16 self-conscious about it and uncomfortable.

And, you know, it's one of those things that like I think it in lots of little ways has impacted, it has impacted my day-to-day life. Like, just I don't fit in most clothes and when I do fit in clothes, like they're, you know, very rare. And then I have to re-wear them a million times or, you know, just stuff like not loving going to the beach or a water park because they feel very uncomfortable or, you know, and I don't, I'm not, I don't feel this way about other people, like I don't look at other people's bodies and pick them apart, but for some reason it has always really bothered me. I've been very self-conscious about it. And it's been something that I've really fantasized about being able to do. Like I would look

in the mirror and just be like, what if this was gone? What if I could fix this issue? And it ends up that you can and like if as long as you're not As long as you are being realistic about your outcome and understanding you're gonna have scars and understanding what like life after would Recovery and stuff is gonna be like You know if you can afford it or if it's possible for you to get, I mean, go right ahead. Like the, of the few things that I've had done in the lead up to this, like to prepare, I feel really great about them. And I feel like this is going to be very freeing for me and very cathartic, especially after COVID and feeling like not in control of my body

or my life. Like it feels like I'm doing something to take charge of the situation. And when I spoke to the plastic surgeon, Dr. Steinbreck in New York, if you're looking, he is the best in the country at what he does for men's plastic surgery to begin with. But also he just said that like a lot of the times people that come into him fall into multiple categories,

but one of the big categories is people who really want to exercise and they really want to live that ideal, healthy, active lifestyle, but for whom their level of uncomfortability, either with where they're starting or what, like what there's current situation is, keeps them from doing things like running outside because they feel like they're,

like everything's moving and jiggling or they get bruised. Yeah. Yeah. Or you get chafed or you get blisters or the gym is really uncomfortable or swimming is really uncomfortable. And he was like most of the time the people who come in and get this kind of work done go on then to be extremely active and healthy and live much larger lives.

And he has never heard anyone who's, I mean, he's, you know, I would already paid at this point. So he was free to tell me if that was the case. But he hasn't heard of any of his patients, like having massive regrets or having feeling like their lives haven't changed in any meaningful way. And for me, I really, I've wanted this change and I've really been, I've been really thought about it for a long time. So, for me, that's the right choice.

I've settled on it. I'm very excited for my life after. And I'm, you know, it's a whole scary thing, but I think it's gonna be a good thing and a good change for me. So I'm really excited. To me, this has been a very long time coming. It was kind of like a dream I never really thought would happen.

Like I was always just kind of like a dream I never really thought would happen. Like I was always just kind of settled into like, hating my body and hating little aspects that are highly changeable, but I never thought it would be possible. And it's all highly possible. And you can take charge of the situation and you don't have to settle for whatever circumstances

you're currently stuck in. And I think also I would balance this with saying that like if you don't feel this way, great. If you feel so comfortable in every aspect of your body and there is, or if your body is a beautiful, perfect body and you feel a dysmorphia for it, definitely speak to a psychologist or a therapist before you do anything like this and definitely try to get control of your circumstances in a non-permanent way. But if this is the right option for you, I don't feel any shame or frustration, and I understand people are going to judge me,

and I understand if I post about all of this, people are going to have things to say. I understand that, but I just don't give a shit. Like, if you do not have lived with something that physically has, and psychologically, has been a day, like I think about it every hour of every day, you haven't lived with something that is physically stopping you in some respects.

You don't know what you're talking about so I don't really care about your like is it a ring or whatever. I think, listen, as you know, I support you in all things. And this is obviously very personal stuff, you know, very personal choices. I, you know. The thing about, I think people should do what makes them happy. First off, number one.

The thing that weirds me out with body modification is this trend of people becoming, looking all like each other. Like whatever's happening with like the Kardashians and their friends, it's like, I'm not, and it's like, I get it, like you, you, you, you feel like you need to do this, not you, them. But it's just like, it is weird that you see like,

it's like becoming there's like this face or this body that's like, this is the right way to have a face or a body. And I think like, this stuff should be personal, it should be about like personal preference. And I think like, it's, it's, it's I think it's, I listen, I mean, there are things I've joked for many years about getting a nose job. I'm not going to, but frankly, because I'm scared. But I have like a big nose, and I'm like,

well, I wonder what I'm looking at with a smaller nose. But it's sort of my personal brand now. It's like, you see me, I can sneak around, I know when I'm coming around a corner. But I think what you're talking about too is just about a realisticness with the results. Like, I think a lot of people see Kim Kardashian and they're like, I'll just do the things that she did.

But like, first off, she's a different body than you. And second, you're seeing her results with makeup and filters and revisions. Oh my God, yeah. It leaves their agreements for the scars. And even then, when you see them on Photoshop, they don't look like that. So you have to be realistic about the fact

that a huge ass is not gonna look good on everybody. And it probably doesn't look as good in Kim Kardashian as you're assuming that it does in your life. So I went in with very realistic. I said, these are the things they don't like. I have no idea what I should look like afterward, but I'm telling you that I want this stuff changed I want to be able to go to a store and put on clothing and just buy it

I want to go buy a large t-shirt and wear it and have no problems. Everyone else gets to do this I would like to do that in my lifetime I would like to walk into a boutique in Mallorca and purchase a shirt and have a lovely day rather than spiraling out about the fact that I can't do that um and the doctor was like here the things I would do and have a lovely day rather than spiraling out about the fact that I can't do that. And the doctor was like, here are the things I would do. Here's what generally your results will be.

Here are the problems afterward. Like you're gonna have scars here. You're not gonna have sensation in this part of your body for like a year, you're not gonna all this stuff. And I made the judgment, but you can't go in with these ideas that like I looked at, you know, I looked at a gender and I said, or I looked at a Hadeed and I said, that's for me, and go in with a picture and say, make me this. It's just, it's not how,

it's not, that's not reality. And I think we have a very unhealthy relationship with reality at the moment. And you shouldn't be doing anything permanent based on what you've seen on Instagram. Or, you know, like, I agree. I agree. It's It's it's like you and I do actually feel like even with with with those people the people who are like the people that are on Instagram They're also like striving to do things to get closer to whatever their pictures look like on Instagram And it's like this is a this cycle is really weird and bad like I don't know that it leads to the place where you think it leads or should lead You know anyhow, well listen, I want you to, you know, obviously be very careful, take care of yourself, you know. Everybody send vibes to me and stood up to sign breakfast because

I did. Well, talking to him, he was like, this is a five to eight hour surgery. And I was like, oh boy, I hope he gets a good night's sleep. I hope nobody gives him bad news before you. Yeah, just I proceed with caution. It's serious stuff. And you know, you got, you know, you got to be, you know, gentle with your body. Oh, listen, also, if you look really hot, I'm going to be very upset because I'm going to look so good. I'm supposed to be the hot one on this podcast.

All right, we got to wrap up. We got to get out of here. But listen, I'm glad we're back. We'll be back soon. Who knows when very soon, no more than two weeks probably. I don't know. We're gonna go to a two week schedule on this. I think let's try to stick to a two week schedule

and sometimes do it every week. Summer hours. This would be like our spring summer hours. It'll be two weeks and then when that three week break was not what we will be shooting for in the future. No, no, it was too long. Too long without knowing Tony, hearing Tony's hot breath, or at least what I imagine is hot breath while we're speaking.

All right, good. Great. Bye, breath. Well, that is our show for this week. We'll be back in two weeks with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been told that your family has been turned into an NFT and you no longer have any rights to them. you