Tomorrow - 233: Ivermectin Brockovich

Episode Date: September 3, 2021

This week we join Josh and Ryan for a tour of America, from it's horrible reality stars to it's terrifying Windex-based medical system. Nevertheless, she persisted. Ultimately, we reach the only conclusion we're likely to get: That we will only know peace in our time when we switch over to Oreos as currency. Amen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to tomorrow. I'm your host Josh Wittboski. Today on the podcast, we discuss Terra's house, I'm your host Josh Wittowski. Today on the podcast we discuss Tara's house, I've remected in an Oreos. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. Uh, Ryan, we're back. We are back. And we're back and we're in Buretty. We're ready for all of the things that, okay, a couple of things. First off, ready for some bad things. First off, I'm going to make a concerted effort.

I listened to last week's episode, which was an unfortunate mistake on my part, but I said like too much. That was your takeaway. I'm gonna work. My takeaway was the conversation was utter perfection, but I sound like, and I'm using it there just because the word has to be there. I sound like a teen on cocaine. So I'm going to, I'm going to really watch my likes this episode and we'll see, we'll see how the how Tony responds. If he feels like that's the, you know, it's an improvement or or maybe it'll be a, it'll be a somehow a disruption. The disruption or an impairment to the overall his overall enjoyment. All right, let's talk, there's a lot of stuff going on right now. First off, there's a lot of bad news.

I mean, we should just say that. I mean, I, let me actually, I was going to tweet about this, betweening about any of this, and frankly, tweeting about any of your personal observations on this moment are it's really a fraught affair because no tweet, no tweet can really do the moment justice and no matter how many times and no matter how many ways and no matter how many gifts you will

use to compare our current situation to say the handmaid's tale. Josh, are you talking about wirecutter going paid? I am talking about the absolute nightmare scenario of, and if the New York Times wire cutter reviews going behind a paywall for $5 a month, I, Ryan, you're, Ryan is, of course, citing this because I've just been on a tweet tear about how they did a, the best white shoes post, and their top recommendation is Chuck Taylor's, which is like,

like Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, war Chuck Taylor's, he was wearing them right before they took them off to put the nail through his feet on the cross. They were like, we recommend a glass of water. Jesus Christ, the Romans were about to nail him to the cross and he said, hang on a second, I just got these Chuck tailors, they're my favorite white shoes, do you mind if we remove them? It's, now listen, they're great white shoes, okay, by the way they come in other colors, it should be said, they're not strictly white. They're great white shoes. Okay, by the way, they come in other colors. It should be said. They're not strictly white. They're great shoes. Everybody knows that truck tailors are good white shoes if you need a pair of basic white sneakers.

It's just literally, I just think that like people like Talk To a Host like Ellen will wear converse to look like humble and regular. Just a regular person with good taste. They're just like, they just are there. They are standard issue, which is fine. It's great. Tell us about the standard issue. And then there are next two recommendations are absolutely awful. But whatever. My point is it's very funny.

The idea that you would pay $5 a month to get a recommendation that literally any 12 year old would be able to give you. But but also anyhow, but I think that you know, logically you can spiral out from that to go, the best white shirt it hangs, the best jeans or Levi's, the best phone for most people is an iPhone. You know, that sort of thing. If you're a serving catch-up this season,

it's gotta be Heinz. You know, there are a lot of catch-ups out there. There are a lot of new small batch catch-ups. You may be interested in trying Kensington's, but stick with the standards. Hines is the best. Actually, Hines is the best. I have that other catch-ups that are good.

Now, of course, I am biased because I'm from catch-ups to the USA, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And so I have to, contractually I'm obligated to use Heinz ketchup throughout my life. But, and also show people how to get it out of the bottle when they're totally new.

Got to hit the 57. You do have to hit the 57, but you have to hit in a very specific way. And the reality is that a lot of people, a lot of people don't know how to do it, and they look like complete assholes while you're having lunch with them anyhow. But no, look, it's a bad, so I was thinking about tweeting

about what is happening in the world right now and particularly in America and particularly in the South, but also there's some nice North Eastern stuff happening as well and also West Coast. And frankly, it's a it's a unmitigated shit show across the country, but but but there there is no way to go on Twitter or really almost anywhere else and and make up, you know, I was raised on dystopian science fiction, you know, when I was growing up,

when I was 12 years old, I read Neuromancer and I thought wow this is cool. You know I watch Blade Runner. I was like the future is going to be crazy. We're going to have replicants and I'm going to have to become a Blade Runner and retire them and then I'm going to jack into my Ono Sendai Cyberdeck and anyhow you know but there was something kind of thrilling about the dystopia. There was something sort of exciting you know and you know, but there was something kind of thrilling about the dystopia. There was something sort of exciting, you know, and you know that it was dangerous, but there was a lot of fun to be had. You know, we are, we are as much as a pain to actually make the comparison. We are the current world

is a is very reflective of the dystopias that I read about and watched as a as a kid. And it's not thrilling. Not that I really expected it to be. Not that I thought that much about it because that was fiction. And this is reality. But we are really living in, I mean, we were listening to the radio the other day. And there was an ad on the on on New York's classic rock radio station 1043 about why you should get vaccinated against the coronavirus. And the ad was the ad really sounded like something from a movie from like 1992. It sounded like an ad from Freejack or Hardware. I don't know if you know these movies, but it was, it's like, it's like in Hard, in the movie Hardware, which is a movie about a, by the way, everybody should watch Hardware. It's an amazing film, a formative film from my youth,

originally it received an X rating because of a very steamy sex scene in it. It features some of the music of public image limited one of my favorite bands and also is an amazing story about a military robot that is gifted to somebody that has kind of blown up and gifted to somebody and then put itself back together and goes on a kill crazy rampage. But it's also commentary on obviously on like overpopulation and on climate change and on all the stuff that people were talking about. Really started thinking about and talking about quite a bit and putting into a lot of fiction in the 90s. But in hardware they have marijuana cigarettes that they sell in packages. And I remember in 1990 or whenever the movie was made, I thought I was like oh, this is so, this is such a sci-fi,

little sci-fi detail, it's so interesting. It's like those, it's like those, the umbrellas and blade runner that have the neon pole, you know, you're like, oh, that's, yeah, in the future, we'll have like neon umbrellas, that makes sense. It actually makes no sense, but I guess it can help you see the person carrying the umbrella, but, but I was like, oh yeah, that's such such a weird quirky little detail that they are advertising,

you know, marijuana in, you know, like they advertise cigarettes and, you know, weed and and they had like, you know, a population ban, these are ban on on births because, you know, there's too many people and everybody's got like radiation poisoning from the multiple endless wars that they've been engaged in. But as I was listening to the radio the other day and they had this ad about the coronavirus vaccine and why you should get in how it protects those around you and protects you and you know can stop the spread of this like a pandemic, it just was to me reminded me of the ads from hardware. It just sounded so alien and so unusual and so upsetting. You know that we have to run ads on the radio to tell people to get a vaccine that can save lives

and save their life is bizarre. I mean, it is just like that's not normal. You know, people usually when there's a new vaccine for a serious disease or virus or illness or whatever, people are like, wow, finally polio, we can finally tackle polio or chicken pox there's a new vaccine for a serious disease or virus or illness or whatever. People are like, wow, finally polio, we can finally tackle polio or chickenpox or any of these things. It's very unusual. It's very distub, distub, distub, distopic. Anyhow, so then, you know, there's this new law in Texas that went into effect, which is effectively bands abortions, bands them after six weeks. And then that part of the law is actually, in a way is the nicest part of,

is the most reasonable part of the law. Now, I don't think it's reasonable at all. I think it's fucking batshit crazy. But comparatively to the second part of that law, it sounds pretty normal. Because the second part of the law is, it bans abortions after six weeks. And the way the law is it bans abortions after six weeks. And the way the law

functions is that any citizen, any person, even people who don't live in Texas, can bring charges against other citizens, doctors, any health care providers, the Uber driver that may have taken someone to an abortion, to a clinic, to a plan parent clinic or whatever, a person who may have given someone advice or given them a phone number, a random citizen can file a lawsuit against these people. And if they are successful in their lawsuit, those people have to pay them $10,000. It is probably the single most deranged, unconstitutional,

1984-esque fascist fucking state law that has ever been enacted in this country. And it is directly targeting women and their bodies. It is so, and so, and people, like everybody's like the handmade style, the handmade style, and you know what? It is just fucking like the handmade style, but that doesn't do it justice

because it's so much more fucked up, and it's also so much more real. And like, you know, it is, I'd love to, I mean, we're gonna talk about some other stuff that is fun, okay? Later, Tony, I know you're like, you know, it is, I'd love to, I mean, we're gonna talk about some other stuff that is fun, okay? Later, Tony, I know you're like, come on guys, I've already been crying all morning. It's just like, I just think that we,

it's hard to take stock of the, the, the severity and the insanity of this moment. It is so twisted and so, and so out of sync with the direction of where we are going as a society and where we are going as a truly, largely progressive society. There really are no words. And so I thought about this morning I woke up and I was, I was started writing this tweet because I wanted to express my sort of anger and depression

and puzzlement at the whole thing. And I started writing, it was, you know, it was like, wow, I feel like I should have been more prepared for this dystopia given all of the stuff I read when I was a kid. But literally writing it, I was just like, this is pointless because there's actually no way to sum up how truly deranged this moment is and how it feels like we've almost been abandoned by the leadership in this country to push back against it. I mean, we don't live in a fucking Catholic Christian fascist fundamentalist country.

The majority of people here are not fucking pro life, evangelical, brainwashed, fucking Catholic robots. And by the way, even most Catholics don't, aren't pro-pro life. But we somehow have arrived at a place where our policies reflect a minority opinion and a minority stance and a minority choice. And I don't really understand how that's happening, except that the one part of our government seems to be incapable of meeting this challenge on the fucking battlefield. Anyhow, so just a very strange morning, very strange week that we've been having because, oh, and in addition to all that shit, and in addition to all that shit, in addition to the surging coronavirus stuff, we also have had absolutely demonic storms

in this country that have destroyed towns and the South and now are working their way up. I mean, what I'm experiencing at least, started in the South and have just worked their way up and now blazed through the East Coast last night and literally like 15 people died in New York. People drowned. They people in their cars got trapped in their cars

in flooded areas because of this insane storm and drowned, roads split open, holes opened up in the earth. We are infrastructure. I mean, the city flooded, the subways flooded. People's houses flooded. No one here is actually prepared for climate change. Our infrastructure is absolutely crumbling. And it really is, Josh, you sound really hysterical.

They're not gonna do, they're not gonna overturn Roe v. Wade. The climate change is part of a long pattern and it happens all the time, you know, or throughout all of history. And frankly, Josh, you sound ridiculous. Sci-fi just toopia, I mean, really. I need to get out my iPhone to Google how ridiculous you look. A reality star president, it's, you sound so, so take it, you know, take it seriously, but not literally. They're not gonna act for you.

Any of this stuff? Ryan has, do we mention Ryan, his family's finally won him over. He's now full mega. He's actually had the, he said the vaccine removed from his body. No, that's it. I mean, this is all like a mirror.

All of this, well the thing about it is there is a You don't want to you do want to temper it, right? I'm not saying that the world is ending Oh, it is I mean, but no, but like we've got to correct. We've got a course No, we're not I'm more I think we can't no, I think we can't I still I still maintain a small amount of positivity about the overall progression of humanity I believe in the end I believe in the end the bastards lose I do that's so and I I want I do think thank you I appreciate that I'm holding on to that well you know what I've got a seven year old so I mean I'm sort of like I have no choice but to envision a future that is better because

I can't, if I start thinking about a future that's worse. Oh boy. At this point. You know, like, I don't know how I can go on. I'm not sure that I can continue to exist on this, on this mortal plane. As Wendy Williams famously said, life could be worse. Oh, oh wait, no, it couldn't. This is the worst.

I mean, it could be worse. It is the worst. It could be worse. It could be worse. It could be worse. I mean, Trump could have won second turn. I mean, it could have been worse. I mean, yeah, it could have been. I could have been, for sure. I mean, think about the Supreme Court refused to,

well, you know, Biden and the Democrats could pack the court right now, but that would be hysterical. Well, they could, that would be a, a hysterical overreact. They can't pack the court. They can't pack the court because we have two, at least two senators

who are rogue Republican senators posing as Democrat. Well, they should just, and napalm them. Oh, but they can't. They can't. They can't Napalm them because they have a menero majority. I mean, this is... But do they have a majority if they can't pack the court? I mean, they don't have...

No, I mean, they have a fragile majority and the truth is... To do what with? I do, yeah, exactly. I don't know. What's the point of it if you can't use that? Well, exactly, but you can't use it if you've got... If you've got a couple of people who are there to be No, I know but I'm just saying I'm saying I'm not any rogue

Republic. Why doesn't the world republic policy take her $150 million personally and just stop that And no, why does it why don't any of the? Because she doesn't care because nobody I mean to be honest Where's your Biden and Kamala Harris today? Where are they? On TV, on TV going, we are going to, I'm gonna sign an executive order. I'm going to Mandate X, Y and Z.

I'm going to like post some Trump shit. Go to the Supreme Court with something that somebody has to challenge because you pulled some weird ass, executive order, non-constitutional nonsense. You remember, Trump, very early on, one of the first things he did, he did this travel ban, totally unconstitutional, got knocked back,

he got knocked back, he got knocked back, and then eventually it went through. We need somebody on the side of the Democrats and he's to understand that we continue, they continue to bring, they're like, we're here for the fight. They brought one of those like chains from the warriors and some guy has a bat.

And like the Republicans are, roll it, they literally drive a tank into the Capitol building and then just ballistic missile the rest of the people who are on the ground. It's like, I don't even have to understand. Brainwashed, fucking white piece of shit American asshole. Monsters will go purchase the tank at Walmart and roll it up for them.

Right, exactly. Anyhow, listen, I know we're preaching to the converted here, but in any rate, it's frustrating and insane and bizarre and and and as much as everybody wants to go on Everybody wants to go on to Twitter and say this is just like the handmade tale or I told you so or we knew this was coming or whatever It's it's you know it just take the energy Take the energy and go get people out to vote. I don't have I don't have any energy anymore I tried I tried to get people out to vote. I told people, look, this is going to happen. Then the apocalypse happened. Oh, look, this is going to happen.

Nobody cares. You know, I'm going to go out there and say, I, I've spent the last, I've spent all of my summer running into my family and saying, they say, oh, the weather. So ridiculous. And I go, oh, climb a change and nothing. And then today I got to call for my mom that she's like, are you safe? How crazy? What is up with the weather? You don't want to know. Why am I going to go around campaigning and telling you something that you don't want to know? You don't want to know it.

It's not just. Why I'm blackpill at this point. I don't give a shit. I'm just going to watch my TV show. I'm going to take care of the people that I take care of. I don't know what to do otherwise. Nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares.

Everybody is out for themselves. And the second that you take that you that you At all get real or serious even the people on your side are the center is D types quote unquote are like you're being hysterical You're being ridiculous boh blah, and I hate being the I told you so person because they after the fact I say oh You mean that thing that I told you exactly what what was gonna happen? And I told you exactly what was what like how it was gonna go down and I warned you and and then they go Oh well, okay, you were right and it happens to me and I hate to be like this because I don't like sounding like this And I don't like being the I told you so person I really don't I want people to like me more than anything

But the truth is I did tell you and I'm not I'm sick of telling you I'm not gonna do it anymore if this is like You know what I mean like what what what what's the point? I did tell you and I'm sick of telling you. I'm not gonna do it anymore if this is like, you know what I mean? Like, what's the point? What's the point? In 2019, Nancy Pelosi said, the green new dream or whatever. Really?

Really? Look at the infrastructure in New York City. It's a whatever. It's a green new dream or whatever. And then I'm supposed to, I'm gonna get my parents who fucking vote for Trump and take every, like, fucking white piece of shit, fucking grudge that they can. They take every fucking, oh, I saw Brandy set on a talk show that I'm not allowed to say the N word. That's offensive to me.

I can say it if I'm discussing it academically. That's like the literal, like, grudges that they spend their time talking about worrying about. They care about like critical race theory or like just absurd nonsense that does not matter and does not affect them. And truly if anything is just more proof that even in small instances you can't be good people. So why the fuck? Why the fuck am I going to have these conversations? Why am I going to go to Thanksgiving and push for change? Well, though I would avoid your fam. If I were you, I would just avoid the family conversations. I don't think you're gonna get anywhere there.

I don't think I'm getting anywhere with anyone. I give up. Well, I don't know. Okay, I don't, I hear what you're saying. I do. I do. I don't wanna be like this, but what am I supposed to do? I know, but listen, I have to stay sane. All right.

No, you do have to stay sane and listen, maybe you need to disengage. But what I'm saying is this. I don't know what the future holds, but excuse me, I don't know what the future holds, but it truly, I mean, there is an element here where I mean, there is an element where this gets people, this gets people a little bit more awake for these midterms. There is an element possibly, potentially, where there's so much of this. First off, the GOP is literally killing their own voting block.

I mean, they actually are, I mean, I just saw some data on this the other day. I mean, GOP voters are getting sick and dying from COVID at like alarming rate. What does it matter? We don't want in a country with this much gerrymandering and this much lobbyist money and citizens united? Well, any of this fucking matter when there's no voters right now? I mean, maybe I don't know.

They don't have, listen, I mean, what we're experiencing now, I mean, this whole, the abortion thing for instance, the Texas abortion thing, is a product of four years of having Donald Trump as president. It is not like this was always destined to happen. We put, this country put someone absolutely evil in power

and he did everything that he could to turn back the clock on society and on America. And a lot of that's still around. I mean, he put three Supreme Court, he got three Supreme Court justices into the court. Now, that's first off as an unprecedented, in a single term, it's unprecedented. The luck, I mean, it is absolutely, the fact that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was still there and died during Trump's presidency is absolutely, you know, just, I mean, first off, could have been prevented, could have been prevented. She could have retired and could have been replaced with a liberal, young liberal.

I think, but that's a perfect example of, like, yes, but that's a perfect example of why I just, I don't care anymore. You should have retired. You didn't. We all fucking told you she would million fucking times. You didn't. You had to be there. Nevertheless, she persisted because it was so inspiring that this fucking 99 year old

woman could, you know, fucking glue herself up there. Listen, was she delightful and feminist and blah blah blah and the early 2000s and the 90s blah blah blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, amazing. Trouble, laser. But you should have fucking stepped down and that you didn't on did all of the work all of your life's work And that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and fucking Kamala Harris and everyone else will not just step up and take action

Of some kind whether or not is hysterical and outrageous because guess what everyone wipes their ass with yesterday's newspaper and the GOP knows that so they do hysterical outrageous things and they just get their way yeah i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i is the story here is not that the Republicans have continued to push their absolutely insane evangelical fundamentalist agenda, which is by the way, people are like shri-a-lot, oh, this is shri-a-lot. It's like, hey, this is like saying that's extremely racist. What this is actually is evangelical white Christian fundamentalism, which is scarier and frankly more deadly than any Muslim shit you've imagined. And they have been telling us they would do this since the 80s.

They have been repeatedly saying this is their goal. And then it happens to people who are like, how in this, in a modern country, they fucking told you! It's, it's not. Anyhow, the point is, you know, look, where is the silver lining at this point? We can't see it because it actually flooded last night and took several people with it. But, you know, there is, there has to be action. To me, it's what is missing is, I mean, I get your rage about Nancy Pelosi, these people who have been in power for so long, first off, I mean whatever, just structurally we have problems in this in the way that our government is functions.

I mean, we have a absolutely dysfunctional government. I'm not saying that other people's governments are great, or that the way they've structured their political parties or functions are superior, but whatever we're doing now, whatever we're doing now is not working. And this game, this bipartisan bullshit that Biden and Pelosi and Schumer and all these people, you know, this is, that's over.

We got to get away from that. We have to, this is war. It's war. We believe that things will just magically work out because that's inevitable and that's what truth and justice and goodness is. This is a product of the media. And it's also a product of the fact that like for the later part of one century, we were on a pretty good roll with some social issues.

That's it. There are nothing else in history points to any of this working out. Nothing else in human history points to us solving any of these problems coming together, any of this shit unless we take really drastic action and nothing points to us doing that. So I don't wanna be black-pilled

and hear arguing for nothing. I'm usually the person on here being like, donate, make your calls, blah, blah, blah. I don't know what to do with this point. I really don't. If nobody cares, if everybody just wants their Netflix and to ignore the realities that are happening, then that's what's gonna happen.

And if, like, everyone who gets any level of comfortable just wants to ignore everything, like, I don't know what to do, then I don't know what to do because you're either suffering or you're part of the problem. And I don't really know, and I don't wanna be like,

oh, let's move on and talk about something else, but I kinda just wanna move on and talk about something else. We're not gonna solve it here. Nobody here, nobody in this fucking, in my surroundings, my physical or emotional surroundings gives enough of a shit. So part of me is like, well, let's just talk about, you know, let's just talk about the App Store, because you know, at least we have some control over that if we complain.

Yes, yes. No, we can't, you and I will personally be able to fix this a massive institutional historic problem. But it is, I think, I don't know, listen, I'm frustrated, obviously. I guess I'm not that black-pelled because I do feel this responsibility to bring it up. Right, I mean, look, the reality is,

I just, more than anything, it's, yeah, I mean, it's just everything's hitting just so much, everything happens so much as the tree says. Everything happens so much. You know, there's just so much hitting at once here and so much of it feels, now look, the climate change part of it, we're not going to turn that around by passing some story. You know, no, yeah, we're not going're not going to the climate change thing is not. Oh, we have this tax credit now and in 10 years climate change will be done.

Like climate change is now we've we are where we're at. The weather is going to get more extreme. There's still things that we should do to prevent it for being quite bad. And we'll be but we can lessen the effects of, we can lessen, first off, we can lessen the future effects of our actions by changing our behavior and changing the way, and by the way, not just individual people, but changing the way corporations and countries

do what they do, right? Okay, yes, we can do that. But also, and this is, I thought for a moment, you know, we have this infrastructure bill here in America, this, of course, highly whittled down by, of course, the rogue, two rogue Democrats and the rest of the Republicans. God, I can't think of anything labor to be

that a rogue Democrat. I know, I know, they're just such, just shit, just such sheet heels. But I'm a rogue Democrat. I know, I know, they're just such, just shit, just such sheet heels. But I'm a rogue Democrat. I'm a maverick. Kristen Santa, like get both of you, get fuck. I don't know, I just got my own opinions on things. Yeah.

So you know, I hear about a minimum wage, that's actually, it's a counter into, not the blood well wrote in articles. No, these people, I mean, some of the earth, they're actually, I actually respect, I actually respect, I respect real dyed in the wool Republicans a lot more than these imposter wannabe, shits, rarion, ass kissing, I'll eat them pussy but don't ask me for any money cinema. Anyhow, okay, so, so anyhow, but the thing about climate changes is what we also need to do

and can do, that's my point of bringing up the infrastructure thing is we just have to be able to live differently with the actual stuff that's happening. And so the truth is, I mean, there was this horrible building collapse in Florida. That is, I'm not saying that's a direct result of climate change, but it is an infrastructure problem. And I think we're going to start to see a lot more. We're already seeing it. I mean, this is like New York last night, you know. We're just not built for the way the earth is going to be in the next 50 years. And that's got to change. Or they're going to be a lot of people who don't live where they used to live.

They're going to be a lot of people moving to Canada. Not for political reasons, but because where they live is now under water. You know? Anyhow, okay, let's move on because the truth is, you and I can't personally solve this. Tony, even though I know Tony wields enormous political power, he can't personally solve this. I can't get Sony to change how you turn off the PlayStation 5. I don't think I'm gonna fix this.

Yeah. Neither Sony nor Tony can fix what Ails America and the world. Anyhow, okay. Can we talk about, I'm gonna just really, just I wanna shift hard, I wanna hard pivot into the limited edition. I bought a limited edition Oreo package at the store the other day.

Limited edition Oreo Cider Doughnut flavor. Now I don't know if you've ever had a Cider Doughnut. They sell them at your Apple pickin' and locations and I guess they sell them everywhere now because everything is everywhere. You can get them away. Gmonds I suppose. You know bust in from Vermont or whatever. But what's interesting to me is and first off they're very they're good. I mean are they good? I don't know. You know when you taste an Oreo. I mean yes is an Oreo good? Sure. You know is it does it taste good? I mean, yes, is an Oreo good? Sure, you know, does it taste good? It's a married favorite cookie.

Sure, why not? But like, what it actually tastes, when you really taste it, it's a bizarre flavor. I mean, I don't eat Oreos. I don't actually, I'm not a big sweet person. And in fact, it's a very unusual for me to buy a package of cookies, but I saw these and I said to myself, self,

I said, Josh, you gotta get these. But anyhow, they taste good. They taste a lot like chemicals, but I think that's how Oreos always taste. I think they kinda taste like, you know, they got sprayed with whatever they sprayed that McDonald's hamburgers with, which is like, it's good, like you eat it and you're like,

yeah, I'm enjoying this, but there's a kind of underlying level of, what was the spray, this was sprayed with something that kind of makes it taste like food? Anyhow, but what's more interesting to me is this limited edition concept, that the drop culture has just eaten the entire world. And I don't know if it's a good thing. You know, it's definitely not a good thing.

I'm very fatigued by limited edition. I like getting things. Stunned are that cost extra materials and money to create for attention, it's not gonna end well. I don't think this is a good development for capitalism that everybody's product is limited edition and poor and badly made. Like, it only needs to exist to get you to buy it once

because they're gonna be onto another flavor by the next time. Well, it's just like, also, there's a huge question about what is this? What are we doing here? I mean, obviously it's marketing more than anything. Obviously, now companies that make things like Oreos have done things like this for a long time, they don't, they don't, they don't, they historically call them limited edition. They would say, you know, they do some product testing, right? They would try a new flavor. It would be out for a while if it works really well to make it. You'd get vanilla coke and people would freak the fuck out

and it would be like a permanent addition. Yeah, they'd be like, okay, we've tested it for a year now and it seems like people really like it so we're gonna make it. These are obviously different in that, they're specifically marketing them around this concept of limited availability, you know? And, you know, I think, have we all fallen for it?

I have a chromatic, a Lady Gaga Oreo, Keystone Reson sitting on the coffee table. We've all fallen for it. That at least is a conversation piece, you know. These are just in a bag. How, for how long will we fall for it? No, I know. And also, drop culture is annoying because,

what was interesting about, what was interesting about collecting things, what used to be interesting, was, you know, it's like you had this obscure knowledge and you were paying attention to things that a lot of other people didn't pay attention to and things had value to you that maybe didn't have value to other people because there was something inherent in the history of that thing or in your relationship with it or that there was a community built around that kind of happened organically and now there's these elements within the community where you can go, okay, you and I see value in the same things and so let's talk

about what that value looks like. Now, drops are just this kind of foregone conclusion. Now, limited edition is this foregone conclusion that we can create value, apropos of nothing by simply limiting, by creating false scarcity, right? That there is no actual scarcity idea. There is no actual scarcity.

I mean, they could keep making the cider orios, you know, they could, there's nothing stopping them, there's no, it's like they had an ingredient. They're like, hey, we got a shipment of cider donuts that we were able to freeze dry and turn into cider donut powder, but we got this one truckload from a farm in Vermont. Now, after that's gone, we can't make them anymore. No, they formulated this chemical in a laboratory that tastes like cider doughnuts, and they can

make as much as they want. What I find annoying is the false scarcity position of, there are clothing brands that used to make limited amounts of what they could make, like co-chir, you know, fashion, unless it would go back to really the original drop, the original limited edition is fashion and it is co-chir and it is, that's like basically custom made or very few are made, they're made for runway shows, they're made for select buyers, but you can't just walk into a store and buy all of those things. For lots of different reasons, they're expensive to make, they're hard to make, they have to be custom fit.

You know, fashion is bullshit and they like to invent things out of thin air and say that they're valuable. It's wearable art. But now it's like, you know, Oreos don't fucking tell me you can't make more cider, donut, Oreos. You can. You're just pretending you can't so you can sell these and get some kind of weird marketing moment out of it. And I find that to be the Disney

Valtification of everything. And I think Bitcoin and fall scarcity will have always been a bad idea. And I think I knew it was a bad idea the first time I was going to bet it. Then I kind of fell for it because I was like, but I want money. But no, it ends up it's a bad idea. NFTs are a bad idea. I thought the NFT stuff was the first really interesting sort of commercial development for cryptocurrency and for the concept of digital, these sort of digital signatures that can exist

for something that is the original. The problem is, I mean, we've talked about this before, I think, but the problem with NFTs and this whole concept of scarcity is that there, one, it's a, you can say you've got the original, but for, what does that mean? Well, for 99.9% of the human beings that exist in the world, that doesn't, what an original is that if you have a...

You've got a digital signature somewhere that says, that's the first one, that's the only one, it doesn't really matter. Outside of quantum physics, who cares? Who cares? Right, but then also, I mean, all of these artists... First off, there's just a lot of bad art. Actually, a big one is that art is predicated on some sense of value, and the value isn't just like the market says so.

It isn't just that someone has scribed a monetary number to an image, and now that's valuable. It's that there is a whole community of people that have agreed that it has some kind of intrinsic artistic value. Blah, blah, blah. And it's like that kind of, you kind of take it away when Joe Schmoe rendered a 3D chair and is like, I'm selling this as an NFT. And it's like, okay, you bought a chair model

on Thingverse or whatever. And now your selling is an NFT. But you're also selling 16 by 16 pixel pictures of rocks. And I'm selling them each for $5 million. But you're also, but you're also selling 16 by 16 pixel pictures of rocks. And I'm selling them each for $5 million. But you're also, but you're also, it's like they're selling duplicates of them. You know, they're selling additions. So you all, I made a thousand versions of this exact, of this JPEG. It's like, well, that's what if I sit down and make an FT2 and it's better.

And then I just, I have the original NFT of those 16 by 16 rocks. And I say, we should just as NFT too. it's the real one, it's the sequel, it's actually more expensive. And this is the real original. When you think about it, the, you know, Bitcoin is the original NFT. I mean Bitcoin, someone just left it. It said like literally it's money now,

which was a funny idea, but not in reality. Well, it's the same, it holds together. It's the same metric, right? It's basically that there's one of these it well it's the same it holds together it's the same metric right it's basically that uh there's one of these and it's the only one and it can be tracked and it can be and it there will never be another one but like okay but what is it you know what is that it's not it's not some fun stuff of course hey what is what is a dollar bill but of course a dollar bill is I have to pay taxes with it that's what it is at some point that has well but it's some point that has a dollar bill is

backed by something like gold but then again you're also like what is gold it's a you know ultimately i don't have to pay bitcoin taxes so nobody's forcing it to be real the only reason the dollar is a real thing is because the united states military right right now when you get down to it of course it is just mean, this is real like freshman year weed conversation, late night weed conversation. Sure, but I mean, but I think it speaks to all of drop culture and all of artificial scarcity being a society that is entirely premised on scarcity.

Like capitalism is entirely premised on scarcity and they're not being enough supply and demand so that the only the market can work it out. But it ends up, we have an endless supply of a lot of things. And we don't want to give it to everybody. So we create artificial scarcity so that rich people can be special.

Well, no, I mean, it's, it is, I mean, you know, we're, everybody's always like capitalism is a hell of a drug, but we have centered our entire existence around this, this concept of exchange and commerce and scarcity and halves and have nots. And I'm not saying that there can't be an exchange for services or an exchange for goods. Like, that's, I mean, it's completely acceptable that we've built certain parts of our society around that.

It does feel increased and like, all we have is the exchange. And I mean, I think, I mean, I'm thinking a lot about like, Kanye West released a new record, Donda, a record, an album, Donda, which is, you know, I'll, everybody is entitled to their opinion. I think it's quite a poor album in terms of, you know, his output. But, you know, a big part of it was just, he was going to do it and he's holding these sort of listening events and

they're making all this money on merch and it's like, you know, and it's like inevitable when the record came out, you know, it's an amazing brilliant bit of marketing, but inevitably when it came out, it's the number one album. It's like, well, everybody's trapped at home. There's no new entertainment because nobody really can make stuff. And we're just grasping for anything

that feels like you can give our lives some kind of meaning or center. And I do think, you know, there is, it all is all sort of tied into this concept that like we live for acquisition and exchange. You are a consumer and nothing else. You know, you have to consume and produce. I mean, I say this is as one of the best consumers of all time.

I mean, I love to consume. I love to shop. I love to like get into a hobby and put money into it. I can binge Netflix like nobody's fucking business. Yeah, but, but there is a limit. To me, there's a limit now and I feel increasingly, I see the contours of the, I see the contours of the construct and of the, you know, I'm like getting red-pilled, where I'm just sort of like, why am I, I'm like on this treadmill, you know,

we were talking last week about some key caps that I could have bought, but I didn't. And, and the, you know, this acquisition of items in this exchange, this commercial exchange, it can be, you know, it is fleetingly exciting and interesting. By the way, I, as dovetails, great with my next topic that I want to, what are you at too? But, but, but, but, do you think, but I do. What are you at too? But I do think this concept of this manufactured scarcity, it's going to arrive at a kind of

bad end point where that whole thing just loses absolute value because when everything is artificially scarce, then nothing really is artificially scarce. If everything can be manufactured to be limited edition, then at what point do you go? None of this matters. There's a new limited edition thing every week. There's a new limited edition Oreo flavor every week. So what is it matter? I mean, just being the Pokemon problem of, okay, but certain people hoard this anyway. Right. Right. Well, but like, you know, the nice thing about Oreos is you really can't hoard them. They go bad. Well, I'm tell us. Did you like the Oreos? Yes, it's pretty good.

It was pretty good. I just find. The chromatic ones were great. It's too sweet in my opinion. I think Oreos are too sweet. These ones are too sweet. They are very good. They have a kind of like acidic sweetness to them that I find.

There's a cheap sweetness that they shouldn't have. Yeah, anyhow, but you know, it was it was fun. I saw them. I bought them. I ate a couple. I don't feel Highly compelled to go back to them, but no Oreo Oreo is actually kind of a bad example except that it's just annoying that they're like we do limited editions too It's like you're a fucking cookie company and you don't need to do limited editions Please put your dick back in your pants like this is unnecessary You know, let's see leave it for like things that I actually will hang on to. You know, limited edition sounds great except when it's a cookie that will be stale in a week.

It's like limited edition is fun when it's a game console because most people buy it when it first comes out but then some people hold out and get the limited edition one. And then when you go to their house, you're like, oh that's fun. But nobody's- You know, if the halos people are not buying multiple Nintendo DS's, they're different. You know, I bought the fucking limited edition fallout for with the Pip Boy, you know? And you know where it is?

I don't know, in fucking storage, I don't know in a box somewhere where I've completely forgotten that it exists because it didn't matter. I bought it because I felt this. It's a plastic. Yeah, it's like pull this consumerism, this pull of like, I gotta get it, it's limited.

Anyhow, I got it got it get it's limited anyhow I got a galaxy fold Three I Bought the galaxy fold you did you did I had I had speaking to a crass consumerism. I had god I mean Samsung by the way, this is why I'm black belt Yeah, god god love them. They've got me on they've really got me now I mean I every couple of, every generation or so, y'all skip, I'll usually skip a generation. They're like, hey, trade in your Galaxy S21 Ultra

and get 750, are they giving me a $750 trade-in for my Galaxy S21 Ultra, which I have to tell you is nuts. I mean, that's like pretty close to what I paid for it. So, I was kinda like, you know what? It's not my main phone. The new fold seems kinda good. I'm kinda interested. You know I'm bored.

Let me just, don't be just do it. I'll just order it. Anyhow, I did. But I'm excited. I haven't gotten it yet. I'm not, you know, but it's, I used it. It's funny. I mean, I, I,

there's something so liberating about not feeling like you need to get it. Like, I remember how it used to feel with the old iPhones where, you know, you'd be like, oh my God, it's, it's gonna be out like tomorrow at 9 a.m. they're opening the doors. You can stand in line. They're gonna be able to go get it. Do you pre-order, are they pre, are doing pre-orders at midnight, you know? 3 a.m. there's gonna be pre-orders or whatever. And now it's like, yeah, dude, it'll be available. Like, you know how I feel? The truth is, the incremental difference

from the iPhone 11 to the iPhone 12, I wasn't like, oh my God, what if I don't have it on day one? It was sort of like, it doesn't matter. I'll wait, I'm not gonna rush to get it. And it's sort of a liberating feeling, but it's also, you know, I mean, of course, increasingly, I'm sort of, you know, questioning why we need a phone at all,

because I'm not leaving my house. And I'm planning to leave my house ever. But yeah, I got the fold. I don't know. I'm curious to see what it's like, you know, in practice. fold. I don't know. I'm curious to see what it's like in practice. I don't know. I gave in. I had the cart filled so many times.

You know, I just sort of would wake up. I'd look at my email. They had some offer. I mean, they're very good. I'll give Samsung points. Once you buy one of their devices, they're very good at marketing the next device to you. But I had so many times I hovered over the purchase button and then

I just didn't. And then one day, one day I just decided to do it. And that's it. I have no really further thoughts on it except that I'll report back when I get the absurd phone that I'm going to be in there. You're going to love it for 30 days. I'm going to say, I hate that thing I never used it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, the nice thing is, I'm barely using either one of my phones, to be honest. So I don't think it's a big, I'm not like, wow, if I give up this other phone and start using this one, what if I don't like it?

It's sort of like, well, okay, then in a few months, I guess I'll get rid of that one too. But anyhow, okay, unrelated speaking of consumers and but unrelated, I haven't taken my Oculus out in ages, my Oculus Quest or whatever. And you have the one or the two. I have the two. So wait a second. So about a week ago or a week and a half ago, we Zelda went to a birthday party at a place near, now there are these places, you know what Dave embusters is, right? You're from a Dave embusters.

Oh, yeah, I know. Okay. There are these places that have been, maybe I've talked about them before, I was unaware of their existence until I had a child and not surprisingly, I mean, there are these places that exist in the world that are like massive combination like arcade, gymnasium, rock wall, trampoline,

go-cart, warehouses. Okay? Do you know anything about what I'm talking about right now? Yeah. And they're like places that are it's all black light and you're talking about what I'm talking about right now? Yeah. And they're like places that are, it's all black light. And you're talking about what existed on Long Island pre-2004 was called Sports Plus. It was a giant Costco-sized warehouse in which you could go to 4D movies. You could go on a play place. You could ice skate.

There was candy. There was, it's concert. We're happening, but very small ones in the back for children. It was, I mean, it's concert, we're happening, but very small ones in the back for a children. It was, I mean, it's bad, them. It was bad, none of them. It's bad, none of them. It's absolute, it's absolute just.

I mean, actually, so we went to a place that's not too far from us. She had a birthday party there. And this place has a bar, it has a go-cart, multiple go-cart tracks, both for kids and for adults. It has an amass of arcade with games, with arcade games that are brand new, which they're still making, okay? And they're like, just they've taken arcade, I haven't really been in an arcade in a long

time. I went to an arcade in Daytona Beach, Florida with my brother. That was some of the most outrageous machines I've been built in the last few years. Yeah, no, and so Zeld is at this party with her friends. And Laura and I were just hanging out. My brother came to meet us. He brought his son, Julius and my nephew. And we were just, first off, it's like Las Vegas. And, you know, last time we were in Las Vegas was 2019.

And note, I guess it was the beginning of 2020, right before the pandemic for CES. And I was the first time I've ever been in Vegas where I actually really enjoyed it. I mean, every time I've ever gone to Las Vegas has been for, basically for CES or some other event, not for pleasure. Now, I don't even can't even imagine going for pleasure

to be honest with you, but we had a really good time there. The input team had a very good time. And what I was struck by at this arcade, I'm getting to the Oculus, okay, this is, there is an actual through line here this arcade, I'm getting to the Oculus. Okay, this is, there is an actual through line here. Oh, I'm sure. What I was struck by being in this place was how much it felt like Vegas and how much I was enjoying it. And, and I guess that's a testament to the fact that we've been trapped indoors and not able to travel for so long.

But so they have all these new arcade games that are just super immersive. They actually have an amazing Zelda and her cousin played the most amazing game, which is it is a box you go into, it's a room. And it has smoke and those lasers, you know, it has lasers. And it's like a scene from a movie where you have to go through the lasers and you've got to like do like parkour like through the lasers or whatever to get to the vault. It's like that. So you have to dodge around the lasers to like get to certain parts of the room.

It's sort of an amazing idea whoever thought of it. It's like a mission impossible game basically. Anyhow, but they had there at this arcade, they had a walking dead game. And Lauren and I were like, let's play the walking dead game. The walking dead game is you get inside of a booth and you have a bow and arrow type of apparatus that has a crank on it. And it's like a house of the dead style game.

It's like a shooter on rails. John and I actually played through all of a house of the dead arcade game while we were at the stage on a beach like a new one Yeah, like I like I'm on our in house of the dead. Yeah, we played through like an hour of it It's not the one because there's a game because they had a game there that didn't get to play where they have it's they have a you The trigger on the gun has a Paul it reads your pulse and no but it's so cool. Yeah, there's a there's a horror game I think it's a Namco game and they they has like air and and all these different effects and it responds to your to your level of anxiety based on your heart rate. So

yeah anyhow but the but the walking dead game we played was actually unbelievably fun. And it's basically like a VR game where you're just shooting arrows into zombies heads. Which, it just is a great game. It was just super fun. I didn't want to stop playing. I mean, eventually we had too, because Zelda came out of her party. But then, she ruined the arcade for you.

She ruined it for me. Yes, as usual. But then, I remembered that there were these walking dead games. There was, there's a couple of walking dead VR games and one of them is a more recent one is called this called Saints and Centres. Oh, yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah, like they have this for the Oculus. Like, I'm going to, I'm so, I was so psyched by playing this walking dead game in the arcade that I thought, I'm gonna bust out the Oculus and check it out. And I have to tell you, I'm so impressed. Now I can't play for very long because I get very motion sick.

I just think, I don't know, I mean, they haven't gotten VR to a point where I don't get motion sickness after about 20 minutes. Usually on the Oculus, I'm fine, and I don't think it's because the Oculus is a better device by any means But I think it's reduced a bit. Well, I mean it's I was gonna say compared to the PlayStation I don't think that Oculus is that amazing of a device that is preventing my nausea It's that some games if they're built Mechanics wise up for VR Caused me a lot less nausea than when they bolted on. Like, resident evil biohazard with VR was a vomit comet. Like, that's easy to talk.

John and I, John played through it and he did it, but he did it by taking a medication, having a fan on him the whole time, taking breaks, meditating. I was like, why are you doing? Yeah, I was thinking that the next time I really wanted to play I would Maybe take some drama mean or something amatrol and do you know yeah to counteract the The effects of of the motion sickness, which is it feels very intense, but um, but anyway, so so I started playing the game and I got to say I'm so impressed by

just in a short period of time how far I know it's an old game, it's not that new, I mean it's a couple years old or something, but there's some features of the game that I found fascinating. First off, I think that Oculus, they've really got the kind of like motion tracking and hand tracking down in a way that feels incredibly natural. Like you have arms in the game and it was, there is definitely a moment where I was playing

in the early part of it where you're sort of like figuring out how the controls work where you're like, oh, I feel like, oh, these are my arms. Like I feel like I'm looking at my arms. I wear a watch, there's the character has a watch you can turn your wrist over and look at the watch. And it's like this very weird, you know, a synthesizing of the virtual and the real that I found,

just actually remarkable. But what's truly crazy about the game is it asks you to, it's kind of reminded me a lot of the game's zombie or zombie you, which I talked about a million times on this podcast, but it was a Wii U game that you use the controller as a backpack and when you needed to get something out of your backpack in the game, which was an incredibly intense, one of the best zombie games ever made. When you needed to get something out of the backpack, you basically had to look down at that screen and you couldn't see what was going on on your TV.

And so it was created this very sort of intense feeling of like panic. You're like, okay, let me get out this, like these bullets and reload my gun or whatever. The Walking Dead game uses the backpack concept, but it basically needs you to physically and other sort of other locations on your actual body. It asks you to physically get things out of like you have a holster, you want to get the

gun, you have to reach down and get it. You have a knife, it's on a holster, you want to reach down, it's your left hand. If you want to flip the knife over so it's you're holding it, not like you'd hold a butter knife but you're holding it so you can go down, like kind of like, you know, kill a zombie with a downward stroke, like through the top of the skull. You have to throw the knife in the air and catch it to flip the direction that you're holding it. And, and, and I just found it's a remarkable feeling

when it, when you go through all that stuff and you're like, okay, now there are these like physical locations in my body where if I want to get my axe out, it's on my back. And in order to get it, I have to reach behind my, I have to reach over where, like I would reach around if there was a axe on my backpack or whatever and pull it off.

It's that alone, just that interaction is such a powerful and well executed. And so we're still so early in VR. I still feel like we're so, so early. But it's actually well executed and elegant and fascinating and just very realistic, sort of construct for a game or concept. I have to say, I was very impressed by it. I had had not touched the Oculus in a while. I played some of the Vader Immortal games, and I thought those were fantastic, just narratively. This is definitely a step in a direction

that I think is really exciting. I think the combination of their hand tracking, their motion tracking, and the fact that it's so self-contained is just kind of mind-blowing. So, I mean, I hate the fact of their own by Facebook. It really just bothers the shit out of me. But it's hard to deny that whatever they've been doing over the last couple of years has been significant, you know?

Anyhow, all right, that's just my, is it completely unrelated to anything that's happening in society, observation? And then, and now, look, I think we should wrap up. I don't want to go super low. That's why you're nice thing. No, that was not my nice thing. I can we just talk to you really quickly

before we do nice things about Joe Rogan taking the horse medicine? I just want to, I just want to, I just remembered that. All right, Josh, listen, I tested positive for COVID yesterday. So we rolled me around and baked in fat. We, we sang Happy, 800 times backwards.

I then took 12 Advil up the ass. And my dog is giving me further medical advice. So don't worry guys, we got it taking care of. A little Ivermectin on it. Yeah, Ivermectin. You know, I'm gonna see the scar. Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan got COVID. First off, Joe Rogan got COVID full stop. Just like, to be clear, I mean, see the scar Joe Rogan Joe Rogan got coven first off Joe Rogan got coven full stop just like

Should be clear. I mean by the way for like for conservative radio hosts have died Nobody's more harder to get coven than no Rogan no all of the anybody who apparently is has a microphone And is like a conservative and no frontal lobe. I mean, I this guy's a I guess he's like a libertarian or whatever. I mean, you know, I know there's a lot of Joe Rogan fans out there. I highly doubt We have a lot of crap. They're listening to this but but truly truly what it what a fucking dumbass. So worth just like worth He he he did a video. I got co his I got co- COVID video, which is great. He said he took monoclonal antibodies, which is a real treatment, prednisone, a prednisone, which is a steroid,

which I assume might be a treatment for COVID, if you're fighting off an infection. I mean, prednisone is a dangerous thing to take, when you have a, like people take Prednisone when they're like on a Broadway show and they have a sore throat, and they need to go to the mix. It's a wildly dangerous drug.

Like it makes you strong, oh, lose me. No, it's a strong, I mean, it's used for, I mean, like, you know, Zelda used to get, when she would get sick, she sometimes would get really bad, what do you call it, like congestion in her chest. Yeah. And prednisone, we had an inhaler that she would use to help to fight off that, you know,

you don't wanna get an infection in your body. As a child, long. No. Yeah, as a kid. So obviously, low dose. But, and so, wait, he took the prednisone, so it is very powerful. A Z-pack, which is a treatment for the flu, I think,

if you get a bad flu, it is a bad flu. Even for a flu, not even influenza virus. If you have a stomach bug, if you have any kind of bacterial infection, even for that, they are now being real choosy about when they take out the Z-pack because it is very dangerous, very strong drug that creates super, super bugs.

Yeah, it's a Z-Thru Max. That's an, you know, an antibiotic. And then he took, I've remected the horse dewormer, which is, again, I mean, I think we should, the first three things that I listed, the first one, the monoclonal antibodies, is a true proven treatment for COVID. Prednisone, I'm not really sure.

Z-pack, I don't think so. I'm at all. And then the horse dewormer, and I just, I think it really needs to be stated. I mean, what is it about you? What is it about your brain? That somehow believes the vaccine created for human beings.

Way more dangerous than mixing all these drugs than a bang energy, bro. Now taken by tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions, I assume it must be hundreds of millions. No, we're at hundreds. Hundreds of millions of people with no real proven or known meaningful side effects except that you get sick,

some people get sick for a day or whatever. Hey, hey, hey, I read on Facebook that this guy's eyeballs exploded. No, but like, but like, but, but how is it in your, that your brain is like, hey, that I don't like, I know it's gone through clinical trials, I know it's for human beings, but it's new,

and I don't know, man, who knows what can happen? And then somebody's like, well, have you tried this horse medication for deworming horses? It's not like people are, it's like Fauci went on TV and was like, listen, you know, it's still early, but we've seen a lot of success with Ivermectin, the horse dewormer, you know, I wouldn't say go out and get it. It's not like there's some expert somewhere who actually knows what the fuck they're talking about anywhere who's been like, still in the early days, but Ivermectin's really having great results.

It's like literal people are like at the fucking bar and the guy at the bar who you drink with is like, hey, you hear about Ivermectin, I think I'm hearing it's pretty good. And you're like, oh yeah, where can I get it? Where can I get the horse, the warmer that causes anal leakage? I heard about it in pretty good and you're like, oh yeah, where can I get it? Where can I get the horse-de-wormer that causes an oliekeage? I heard about it in my telegram group.

Why, it's Brett. Yeah, my cousin says he got it. I've ever met these. It's feeling really good. I mean, that's literally how people are coming across this or they're on Facebook and somebody's like, you got it. Or, or, but for real, there is the other phenomena of people in the media laughing at it. So they immediately assume it's correct.

Sure. I guess so. I mean, but the point is, it is, there is, to me, the brain, the brain chemistry required for you to make the leap over the tested antibiotic that's created by the same types of people who created every, sorry, not antibiotic, a vaccine that's created by, that is created by the same. That Congress gave to themselves before they gave it to us.

Like Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan's been vaccinated for lots of stuff. I guarantee you. I guarantee you his parents got him vaccinated for shit. MMR, years ago. Like, but the idea that you believe that you can leap over that and go to the horse drug. I don't even understand it because because I'm not saying, don't take the vaccine. I get it. But what are you doing with the horse dewormer? Like, what is that? Like, I don't get it though. But I don't get it. You're not

gonna get out of a virus by not wearing a mask. But I just don't understand. I just don't understand like, what's the what's the brain part? Where is the, what is the part? This is what men do. This is like when men are like, I don't eat some block. What you're gonna, you're gonna scare off the sun. But I, I'm gonna sing it. Okay, but sunblock, I at least,

and I think people should wear sunscreen, but I at least say it's possible that in your day to day life you've experienced bright sun, okay? You've gone outside, it's been hot and sunny, and you didn't get burnt, and you might go, you know what? I don't usually get a burn if I'm outside in the sun, I don't need sunscreen. Fine, you have some material experience with you know your tolerances for the sun, okay? I think you're underestimating how many people go to their vets medicine cabinet. No, I'm saying, you know, I'm just saying yes, I can understand the sunscreen. This one doesn't have, this doesn't have a real world like, like, this doesn't have like,

well, you know, I took, I've remected from my flu that I had last year. I took the horse the warmer from my flu and now I, you know, I think it'll work for this. It's not that. It's just out of the blue, some random fucking drug that you don't know anything about that is for not for human beings. And you're like, that I'm gonna do the vaccine

that is for human beings and has been proven to work. I'm going to avoid. I don't, the logic of it, it is just, there is no logic. Well, the other thing I'll say on this point, and then we should wrap up, we can do nice things. Is, to me, this is my nice thing, is that this fucking dumb ass is probably going to kill himself by taking, not that I want him to die or anything, but that it is just

like the irony of this guy, Mr. Libertarian, just taking like random horse drugs is absolutely just unprecedented. But I'm guessing that Joe Rogan has, he got himself a kind of Michael Jackson doctor. And you know, I would just say like, Michael Jackson had a doctor, a real doctor who heard Michael Jackson's shit that he was dealing with or whatever and was like, I'm just gonna like give you

all sorts of crazy ass drugs and it is no big deal to me to keep you absolutely fucked on drugs all the time. I would imagine Joe Rogan has a guy like that in his life. Oh yeah, I mean, I would imagine small low-level TikTok influencers can get that. There are now startups whose whole thing is like, they call it white glove medicine, private label medicine, and you pay for it ahead of time, so you pay $500 a month, and you can just go whenever you want. And what they're really wink, wink, nudge, nudge telling you

is that we'll just give you whatever you want. Or any of those direct to consumer, like you just talk over the phone to get your, you know, baldness drug or whatever. It started with things like baldness drugs, which we probably should have made over the counter or easier for people with no health insurance to get your, you know, baldness drug or whatever. It started with things like baldness drugs, which we probably should have made over the counter or easier for people with no health insurance to get. And it is now full on, there are whole companies whose whole thing is, I am a prison doctor

and I am licensed to do X, Y and Z, but I make no money. So what I'm going to do is go on here for four hours a day, give you whatever you want, clean the fuck up because you're paying through the nose for your Ivermectin or whatever, and then I get to log off and it's all legal. Thanks, COVID. That's a real thing. And that's how people are getting their hands

on all this shit. They really are. And so, yes, Joe Rogan definitely has a guy, but I think it's way more common now for people to have guys, and I think you're underestimating how many people Google shit and just try to fix it with shit in their house. A lot of people in this country are used to just like

putting wind decks on stuff. Yeah, I mean, I guess, I mean, definitely there is a through line, there's absolutely a big, big through line about our embarrassingly bad healthcare system in this country and the fact that the fact that people are just trying any household remit, I mean, these are even household remedies that I would understand. They are, they're far from remedy. I know, I would understand.

I really would understand if somebody was like, you know, my old, you know, we put ginger, you know, we steam some ginger and put some vinegar in there and you breathe in the, you know, you breathe in the mixture and, you know, it clears you up. I'm like, okay, I get like a old, remedy old home remedy. Cool, you know, but this is not that. This is like, my vet used it to deworm my horse. So, probably should work with COVID. It'll cure this plague, everyone's dying of. Probably should be good for the COVID. All right, anyhow, you wanna do nice things? Yeah. Okay, go ahead.

My nice thing, we say this every time, but my nice thing is another reality show, sorry, but do you know what's going on on the real house I said, if I really held? I don't, actually, and I- You haven't heard about that? Okay, no, no, I don't. said, if I really held. I don't actually, and I haven't heard about that. Okay, no, no, I don't want to hear about that. I don't think so. Okay, so the lawyer from the Aaron Brockovich case,

how to wife, who is Aaron Brockovich? No, who is named Eric Eugene. She named herself after a soap opera character. Yeah. And she is a lady who, she was a stripper. She married this really old guy. They lived together a tale as old as time. For several decades where she was cost playing

as like, you know, a tradwife. And then one day she decided she wanted to be a pop star at like 50. So she took, like, oh, I remember, I vaguely remember this, she had a song. Yeah, she took like 20 million dollars and spent it on that and then it didn't go anywhere. But then the real housewives came along and she was like finally, salvation.

So she got on real housewives, she had, she basically revolutionized the show by spending unbelievable amounts of money on things that were like jaw dropping. I mean like we, she spent $40,000 a month on hair and makeup for the show. Like, okay, you don't spend that and makeup for the show. Like, okay. You don't spend that?

That's my budget. They would go to Dubai and they would stay in a hotel that was like 50K a night. And she would bring her hair and makeup people to stay with them. Like crazy. And so we're watching this and I never really added up totally, but you were like, he's a wealthy L.A. lawyer who's worked since the 60s in law.

Like, he's definitely got a lot of money, so I guess. But ends up, they didn't have any of that money. They were embezzling the money from the widows and orphans of a aircraft disaster. And she was taking money from like, people who had been in car accidents and they would get like a, like, oh, you're paralyzed, you're quadriplegic now, here's $40 million. They would just take the $40 million and keep telling the person they'll get back to them

over the course of like a decade. And that person who is quadriplegic and has no money and can't work and like isn't getting as much from disability because they have this big payout, never got their money. And they were just spending that money. And she, they got caught and she filed they were just spending that money. And they got caught.

And she filed for divorce days before it all came out. And now she is still on the real houses of Beverly Hills going through the legal case, just digging yourself in deeper, showing off all the things she stole from the house, like telling all these stories about how, you know, he was quote unquote cheating on her back in like 2009,

and incriminating herself and doing so, continually like complaining about how difficult her life is, she's still living in a million dollar, another, she's not in the mansion anymore, but she's in a million dollar Beverly Hills home and she's wearing designer clothes and she has help and she just complains constantly and it is the most surreal car crash you've ever seen in

your life. It cannot be believed. Meanwhile, Kathy Hilton is on the season. Kathy Hilton, of course, mother of Paracelton, just came out in the news last year that when Paris was a teenager, she sent her to several, not just one, but like a dozen military camps where Paris was assaulted physically, emotionally, and sexually. And no matter how many times Paris asked her to stop and to help her and to save her, she never did. And then when Paris came out of those camps when she was a legal adult after having escaped them several times, and like living in the desert, Paris-Alton as a teenager, lived in the desert so that she wouldn't have to be sexually assaulted at the camp her mother had locked her in.

She finally escaped and then went on to do the simple life so she could have some financial freedom. Someone leaked a sick sex tape of her and that was her entire life. And we all made fun of her and we hate Paraselta and blah, blah. You know the rest of the story. Paras did a documentary last year called This Is Paras on YouTube, which was fucking incredible and so moving, which was basically a little bit of a look in how and her lifestyle now, but mostly it was about the victim, the fellow victims that she was reconnecting with from these camps whose entire lives had been

destroyed by these camps. And when she finally confronts her mother in the end to say like, hey what the fuck, like why have we never talked about this? Why didn't you help me? Why didn't you? Her mom was like, oh I didn't know, oh dear. Well that's, oh that seems unpleasant, but it's all over now, right? And now Paris's mom is on the real houses of her nails. Next to this other horrible person and everyone's and they're just all actually like not if this is your nice thing. Yes, they're actually like none of it's happening. And every time someone asks any question being like, hey, so I read this thing in the LA times that was on the front page,

Erica's like, how dare you bring that up lies, vicious lies, by my enemies. And it is so weird and stupid. And I have to tell you, yes, of course these people shouldn't be famous. Of course they should be torn down. But if they're not going to, at least they're dumb enough to let us watch them

and make fun of them. And it is so fucking, you can get stoned and watch any episode of this season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And there will be stuff in there that will curl your hair. And I think it is a testament to humanity that we might be the worst people in the world, but God damn it if we're not entertaining.

Yeah, I mean, that's all a lot. To us. Right? I told you it was a lot. You were like, I will never know what's happening. I'll have to remember the house. Maybe you should. I don't think so. I'm, I'm, I am, keep, I am not getting stoned

in watching Terras House. And it could not be, Terras House could not be more of the opposite of everything that you're describing. Like Terras House, if you don't know, I'm sure we've talked about this before. I've probably even listed it as a nice thing, is a Japanese reality show where three girls and three boys live in a house together and find out what happens when,

I mean, they don't find out what happens when they're like, you start getting nice and you start being real. It's like, no, it's just like, find out what happens when they get it. You start getting nice and you start being real. It's like, no, it's just like, find out what happens when they just have absolutely normal lives and nothing major goes down. I mean, the biggest drama on Tara's house is like, somebody's like, I'm gonna ask this girl to be my girlfriend and people are like, oh my God.

Like, not even, they've like, not even kissed. It's like the kissing won't even begin until they get an official after months of dating. Meanwhile, on Real House, as we came back from commercial and Eric had started it with. So after the crash off the cliff, yeah, no, it's like, it's like, in the world of American reality TV,

anal is first base, and it just escalates from there. On a terrace house, it's like, honestly, it's such a fascinating, it's such a fascinating look at Japanese culture. And it is such a wonderful, enjoyable, pleasant show to watch where nothing, the stakes are so low. The interactions are so gentle. I mean, things happen when you're like,

oh my God, I can't believe this, but it's in the context of, you know, a 10 in in Terras house is like, doesn't even register on real housewives. I mean, a 10 level, nobody's, nobody's noticing killing themselves on camera. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, dude, literally, the, you know, there's like a confrontation with one of the house members and the other house

members are, they're like, listen, we feel like you're really not applying yourself at work and you took a day off last week and it seemed that seemed really lazy and you said that you came here, you said you came here to really build your career and we all feel like you're not working hard enough towards your goals and then that person that person is like you know you're right. I really I really appreciate you I really appreciate you telling you this. I haven't been living up to my full potential and I'm going to change my ways and I hope that I can make you guys proud.

That's an actual style of interaction that you may see on Terrace House. Let me tell you, my friend, it is wonderful and I recommend that everybody watches it. Just sit back, relax and let let the, let the, like, almost Victorian level interactions wash over you. And speaking of Victorian level interactions, on the real hostlines of New York City, Ramona singer went to a black Shabbat. That was a Shabbat being thrown in honor of black culture by a Jewish woman who was co-hosting it with the first black cast member, and Ramona spent the entire time explaining how Jewish people have never been nice to her

and how actually white people have it the hardest. Then she stole food from the guest from the host's house, insulted her decorating and then left early with the bus that had taken them all there. Oh, man. It's a great, listen, is it, do I feel good? No, but do I feel good? Yeah. I mean, that's a that's a very specific kind of vibe. And I, I mean, maybe it's maybe it's so

crazy that it's distracting. I mean, maybe that's the point. I just like to, honestly, I just like to bring the volume down considerably in the evenings and I do that by watching Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House.

Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House.

Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri House. Terri season. So, I was looking at it. We'll be back next week after we're after the Galker launch party. I just tell you all the gossip. Oh my God, it's gonna be very hot and spicy. And not a super spreader because we have a huge outdoor space.

So I'm excited about that. A number one concern of doing a party at all was where can we find, we need a space with a large amount of outdoor and huge doors that we can throw up and so there's great air circulation even though we're obviously requiring vaccines at the party. You know it's like I just you just can't be too careful. So anyway yeah we're gonna have a lot week, we'll be back next week with more tomorrow and as always I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been informed that your family has taken a dewormer that is not for horses.

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