Tomorrow - 241: Leo, come over here!

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

On this week's episode of Tomorrow, Josh and Ryan go cruising with Jeff Bezos, test drive a new Subaru (in their minds), and reign hell upon Pinterest dot com. There's also a new Metroidvania you need to play. Get in, Tony! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey and welcome to Tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Wittipolsky. Today on the podcast we discuss Record record of Lodos Ward, deedlit and wonder labyrinth. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. Oh, hi, we're back. Ryan. Hello.

I started watching this film, Titan. Last night? Oh, yeah. Have you seen it? Yeah, you car hoarding. Have you have you seen it? Oh, yeah, I like I Have been very excited and interested to watch it. I have to tell you I Will's like it's too late for me to watch this film. I like you know listen. I'm a fan of horror. I'm a fan of sexy stuff. I'm a fan of, I love cars. You know, not like she does. Big fan of the French, big fan of the French. Huge fan of the Palm De Orr, as you know.

It's like, I'm always, you talk about it all the time. I'm always like, yeah, you know, you know, I'm always like, you know, when I meet someone, I'm like, have about it all the time. I'm always like, yeah, you know, I'm always like, you know, when I meet someone, I'm like, have you seen the Palm De Or film yet? Or, you know, because I'm... Do you have a Palm door? Yeah, or is your status, your Palm De Or status,

just generally. Actually, it's funny, because this morning I was on letter boxed. I wrote my first review on letter boxed, because I would... I would be the letter box guy. I went down a fucking... I'm gonna get back to the Titan thing in a second. But let me cap. I'm gonna try... I'm gonna use my powers of focus.

My newly acquired powers of focus to finish the Titan anecdote. Which is... So I love all those things. The French, horror, cars, sexy people, a titan has it all, but I have to say, like, in spoiler alert, I guess, if you haven't read a synopsis of it, like write it just pretty early on,

like at about the second murder. I was like, I have to watch this in a different headspace. Like I can't, it was the end of a very long day, it was late at night, and it was very stressful and upsetting. I was like, I really want to see this, I just don't want to watch it right now. But yeah, but then this morning I woke up very early because there is some animal in a wall here

that is scratching. It starts scratching, it starts scratching it like four or five in the morning. And I guess this is like, whatever the animal is, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's like a Punxitani fill, but for daylight savings time or something, it's like, you know, Punxitani fill is the pencil veneer version of, that's the, you know, the famous Groundhog, you may remember Punxitani fill Tony Phil is the pencilvania version of, that's the famous Groundhog.

You may remember Punxatani Phil from the film Groundhog Day starring Bill Murray. Or good morning America once a year. Sure, I guess so. Also, Bill DeBlazio killed the New York version of Punxatani Phil. I can't remember his name. But like, what an incredible mayor all around by the way.

Let's not forget that he literally dropped a beloved animal on his head and then like two days later, they're like, it has mysteriously died. It's like, he definitely like broke its neck or something. It's very sad actually, anyhow, but so this animal, the, you know, the scratcher, I don't know, we have, like, I don't know, I can, I can hear it I can feel and see in my in my mind's eye. I know where it's located. The scratching is very loud and yet It's like I can't I'm not entirely sure where like is it outside? Is it inside? Is it in the floor? Is it in the ceiling? I don't know at any rate so So the animal woke me up this morning

And then Zelda got up early. And then I was, you know, we were, you know, Zelda was watching some my pad entertainment, you know, in the early hours of the morning, having some chocolate milk, I was having my coffee, and my chocolate milk, as I think of it. And I don't know how this happened, but oh, I was looking at,

I'll tell you how it happened actually. I'm gonna tell you because it's an incredible, it's sort of an incredible thing that I, that I was going through our mail. And I'm sure by the way, Tony loves this, just this is what he wanted. This is what he needs right now. He's like, what was in your mail?

How many ads? He's like, what was in your mail? How many ads? He's like, what's going on with Josh's mail? So we got a catalog in the mail, okay? It's called Critics Choice Video. Do you know this catalog? No. Critics Choice Video, America's Classic Movie and TV Authority since 1987.

Classic. Okay, here's what it is. It's a catalog. I assume they only send it at Christmas time now or the holiday since we've defeated Christmas holiday time and Thankfully, we're not saying Christmas anymore. It is a it is a catalog of Videos you can buy of like DVDs and blue rays, okay? And it's page after page is probably a hundred pages long or 50 pages long or something.

And it's page after page of very small write ups of movies. Like for instance, they have a section, first off they have a little box for the Fast and Furious series on one of the pages. It's like, here's what Fast and Furious is about, if you didn't know. They had a breakout section which was particularly interesting to me on one of the pages which is charlotte has to my favorite actors from some of my favorite movies horrible

man actually great my favorite gun active no wait here's a thing i was just talking to me about crisp rat which we should talk about but i want to talk about crisp rat actually actually we should have a crisp rat in the whole thing with crisp rat but you know because it touches our lives in so many ways but But I was saying like to Nicole D'Alessandra, who we work with, you know, when I was a kid and I was first introduced

to Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes, I had no access to or any understanding of like what Charlton Heston stood for. I just knew that like Planet of the Apes rocked, like it was an awesome movie and I enjoyed it. And I do think, and I do stood for, I just knew that like planted in the apes, rocked, like it was an awesome movie and I enjoyed it. And I do think that celebrities are really, we should think of them really as more like pets.

Like I don't want it, or you know, like I don't need to know what my dog's thinking. I just can enjoy my dog, you know? Like just, I love when my dog is like, kind of like, it's a shaleen woodley situation. Yeah, shaleen woodley does, I don't need to hear what she thinks about anything, okay? Either you're good at acting or you're not.

You embody the character that I'm interested in seeing or you don't. I'm not saying, I don't want, you know, I want to know that you roll around in clay during the moonlight instead of getting vaccinated. That's not my business. I don't want to, I mean, listen, I think, listen, if people are like, I'm not going don't wanna, I mean, listen, I think, listen, if people are like, I'm not gonna get vaccinated,

you know, well, I guess you won't be in my next favorite movie, but in I think that's- I'm gonna take you right. Yeah, when it comes, I mean, when it comes to on set safety and standards, that's the movie industry's business, not mine. But if you cast a, you know, Chris Pratt or whatever, as Mario, which was a huge mistake, and I don't understand why you cast a, you know, Chris Pratt or whatever, as Mario,

which was a huge mistake, and I don't understand why you did it, but okay, fine, but I don't want to, I don't want to know what Chris Pratt thinks about anything. I don't want to hear a word out of his fucking mouth, except, it's a me, Mario, or whatever he's gonna do with the fucking. You know what I mean? Like, that's all he needs to say. And in fact, I would venture to say, that's too much if he says that.

I'd rather he didn't even say that, but it's not my call, is it? I wasn't asked to be the casting director for the Mario film. And if they had asked, I would have turned them down. Okay, anyhow. So they have a section on Charlton Heston. Let me read you one of the, this is the kind of synopsis you see in the in

the critics choice catalog they sent to a person's house counterpoint they list the cast an orchestra conductors captured by the nazis and forced to put on private shows for the third rights best officers they better be the performance of his life or else

that's an actual description. First off, I'm like, so I'm like, fun. I gotta see this movie. I gotta see this. This sounds absolutely outrageous. Like peak, it's made 1967. It's like peak, nonsense Hollywood stuff. And so anyway, so I'm like, wow, I gotta like put that on my,

I'm not gonna order the Blu-ray, okay? That's what this catalog is for. The Blu-ray's $25, okay? Now imagine you're a person, I just wanna, I wanna embody, I wanna get inside the mind of a person who's like, well, I've never seen that, I better buy the Blu-ray. You know, that sounds really good.

They give you the synopsis, because maybe you haven't seen the movie. And then you're gonna be like, what, let me spend $25 fucking dollars on a Bl a blue rate in case I might like this. So anyhow, anyhow, so I was like I got to make a list of to these for these movies so I can watch them on a streaming service that I subscribe to or whatever and I ended up you know down a rabbit hole and I ended up in letter boxed. You know, is this crazy thing? I use this app called JustWatch.

Do you ever use JustWatch? I do not. JustWatch is like, I wanna watch this thing like where the fuck can I watch it, okay? I always use Google results for that. Yeah, sure, Google's, it's a mess. JustWatch is specific. It's like, you can select which services you have access to

and it'll just tell you, like yeah, that's on Amazon Prime or whatever, you know? And then you can watch it. Now they have a new feature apparently, you can just which services you have access to and it'll just tell you like yeah That's on Amazon Prime or whatever, you know and then you can watch it now They have a new feature apparently you can just watch it from the app you can just hit a button and it'll be met or whatever Which is great they actually have solved the the problem I think possibly that we all have anyhow So I'm putting some but but first so I'm like oh what's an app like where I can I was like I should just write down These movies on a list like I probably have a list somewhere of movies. I want to watch then I was like no You know, I think I have a list in one of these apps.

I'm like, is it in Letterbox? I open Letterbox, which is an app I barely use. If you don't know, by the way, Letterbox is a movie, like social movie review app. I, it's like, it's like, good reads, but for movies. Yes, that's great. That's a perfect. That's exactly how they pitched it. They're like, okay, sharks. They're like, okay, sharks. It's like good reads, but for movies. And they're like, you know how you hate Chris Pratt in the Mario movie? We got a place to post about it. They're like, it was sharks are like, okay, we've heard of movies.

Anyhow, we know of movies because we ordered them in Blu-ray from a catalog. Mark Cuban's like, good reads, nobody reads anymore. Nobody reads, they're just all at basketball games. Anyhow, so the sharks, they're like, okay, sharks, it's good reads for movies. So I open up good reads for movies and I'm looking, I've started,

and I put my movies in there. And then they are like, you know, you know, you know, one of watches is like powered by just watch. And I'm like, oh yeah, just watch is another app that I have. And I open just watch. And I'm like, oh, just watch has a fucking movie movies I want to watch list. I'm like, maybe I should use this because I use this app to find movies when I wanna watch something. So maybe it makes more sense than doing it. And also letterbox is somehow powered by, some part of it is powered by just watch. So I'm like, am I, can I cut out the middle man here?

And then I was like, just watch is like, oh yeah, it's available on Amazon Prime. And I'm like, oh, let me pop open or Amazon Video. Let me pop open Amazon Video. And you know what I have on Amazon Video? A fucking to watch list. I watch list of things that I want to watch. And it's like, where does the madness end folks?

You know, this is why we need to reinstate President Donald Trump, the rightful 46th President of the United States. Anyhow, if Trump were president, this never would have happened. I wouldn't have three or four different places where I put a list of apps, a list of movies to watch in an app, okay. I actually, maybe on that point, I'm affected because I was sent a thread today from a mother's group in our area. And it was something I was like, I went to eat at this diner, it was very expensive.

I'll never be bringing my children there again or whatever. And somebody was like, yeah, this, because Trump is present. I was like, yeah, the diner's expensive. But I get it, they're making, they're making some statement about both like inflation and supply chains, which in some roundabout way may be true, but I've

been to this diner and it's always been fucking expensive, okay? It's always been like $19 for a shitty ass diner hamburger. So anyhow, but getting back to my point, so I popped into Letterbox and I was like looking at the films that I had said that I'd seen, because you know, you first get on the app and they're like, have you seen any movies? And you're like, oh, I can rate them. I could put stars on them or whatever. Anyhow, so I was like thinking about,

I was reading some people's reviews and they were pretty funny and entertaining. And I was like, I should write a review. And then I thought of the one thing that I could write a review on very quickly, that did not require, that I thought was a fun anecdotal story and also a good review of the film. And it was Reckweim for a dream. And this was my review. You know, I'm just gonna read it to you. God, this is the worst engine of all time of the podcast or maybe the best, I don't know.

I mean, Ryan, you're here a lot. What do you think? Is this a top 10? I definitely think I'm on mushrooms. That I actually had John slip you some mushrooms. So it's all working. Oh, thank God. I always turn to that I wrote two reviews. Okay, here's my review of Requiem for a Dream. The most important thing I remember about watching this film

in the theater the week it came out is that when it ended the room was completely uncomfortably silent and stayed that way through the entire credits. Also the girl I went with to see it night never spoke again, five stars. Anyhow, my other review was of Tenet, which I gave a half star to. I actually gave, truth is I gave ReppuImperage Dream 3 and a half stars, dot five. Anyhow. The important thing is that on the tenant reviews, I said, this movie completely sucks ass, and anyone who tells you,

it does it is lying to themselves or you or both. So, anyway, you didn't watch Titan. Oh, Titan. Yeah, so I'm gonna, maybe I'll keep, yeah, Titan, and I think it's Titan, Titan, Titan probably. I think they say it in the movie It's also it also it also opens with again. I don't want to know spoilers, but you know, I don't know It opens with like a scene with a kid like whenever I see a kid in a movie like that I'm always like I it's like when I saw those little the little people walk around in cyberpunk

Which I'm still not sure if there's supposed to be kids are just small smaller people But I was like where we are we talking about the podcast? I'm like, what are these kids doing here? Like, I don't, these should not be in this game. My least favorite trope lately is vampire children. I hate the idea of vampire children. Or like zombie children. Yes, I don't like it because I just don't like it.

I know, there's a million reasons. I'm not getting into it. Vampires are also very, vampires are historically very sexy creatures also and I don't think we should be... And tortured. I just don't think any child should have to live for 1500 years or whatever. Anyway. Let me enter. You should... Actually, there's a great movie. It's called Interview with the Vampire. I don't know if you've seen it. No, thank you. It's so good. It's honestly one of my... It's probably my top... It might be in my top 10. It's definitely in my top 20.

It's honestly one of my, it's probably my top 10, it's definitely my top 20. I don't know, it's a very gay movie. I mean, it is very gay. I mean, but you know. They're just, they're just, you know. It's fine, Cox. It's fine. Well, you know, they're not sucking,

they're sucking necks, that's what they're sucking. But what they're thinking about when they're sucking necks is not the neck, you know what I'm saying? Okay, I think we've all been there. We've all been there. So, now you got your fangs and a neck and you're thinking of something else. Yeah.

Anyhow, would, did I start talking about something like on topic at the beginning of this? No. Okay. That's good. I'm sure I'll go back and maybe, but I don't think so. It's been a long day. I mean, I've been up for hours, you know, starting with my,

my, uh, daylight savings time scratcher. And, uh, and here we are. So all right, so look, you know, it's been a, I would say a quiet weekend news. So there are some notable things. One thing I, I wanted to talk about the we didn't talk about last week because we swore up and down that we weren't going to discuss politics and then spent like a really long and I apologize Tony, I'll be honest to you, I don't even like talking about political things

anymore. I don't want to fucking hear about it, I don't want to talk about it, I don't want to know about it, you know, which is why I voted for a young kid in the Virginia election. As long as we can get rid of critical race theory, I'm fine with whatever happens after that. Number one threat to America, critical race theory. I also, oh, but like there's a new Satanic panic, which we, I think we'll touch on because I want to talk about the Astro world stuff.

Yeah. And there's a whole Satanic panic like, like Q and on sub genre for that now because of course everything blows everything not like we found ways to make things that are already bad even worse which is great I think really impressive for America. I love that the crowd from the like Beyonce performing at the Super Bowl is a satanic ritual people are now just doing that you know know, victims of violence. And I also like that it's like, it is, and it is the adopted mainstream position of all conservatives. It's like, it's not like, well, this weird rogue element

in the party, it's like, that is the stolly, it's like, this is witchcraft. That's the stump speech now. It's like Satan, Satan descended upon Astral World, which is why we have to get critical race theory out of schools. Actually, that's the polite thing. It's still tied in the form.

Yeah, exactly. I hate, we're talking about politics. I do, I would love to touch on a little bit. Josh Holley had an interview on Axios that I would love to just touch on one part of it. But we'll get to that in a second. But let me get back to my, whatever the fuck we were talking about is,

I was gonna say, last week we didn't talk about it, but Teenage Engineering, I wanted to just very quickly talk about this. Teenage Engineering made an amazing looking PC case, and I do think, and I tweeted, of course I tweeted about it, we wrote a story about it, on input, and I tweeted, of course I tweeted about it, we wrote a story about it on input and everything. But I wanna say, I do feel like we are maybe about to be in the era of computer cases

that are awesome looking and something that you would like want people to see in your home. Now listen, I see Renaissance is coming. I truly believe between the Steam Deck and this teenage engineering case, I know I sounded sane, but I truly believe the end of theissance is coming. I truly believe between the steam deck and this teenage engineering case, I know I sounded sane, but I truly believe the end of the console is nigh. And the entire is coming.

I don't know if the end of the console is nigh, but I will say this, I, you can't buy a PS5. I, well yes, but that's a, that's a momentary, I mean, that's because Joe Biden is president. Okay, once he's out, as you know, as you know, he's personally holding up the chips with the PS5s on them. You know that America get the Palm door. You know this? Yeah. No Palm door. No PS5s. This place is a shithole and it's all because of Biden. Biden, you know, the Biden bucks have poisoned the well. Anyhow. Back to what you think. So what the fuck?

Oh, so yeah, so they meet this beautiful looking mini ITX case, which is a, if you don't know, please hang up right now. You know, if you don't know what a mini ITX case is, you're not allowed to listen anymore. I'm sorry. But that's what I was told by the PC master race, my least favorite community. Now actually, I like the, I like the community. I hate the name. I feel like here's the thing.

I love the PC community in Tim Rogers, Cyberpunk, one of his Cyberpunk reviews. He talks about the PC building community how that the forums that those people are in. And I'm a member of, I'm there sometimes, that they most resemble, they most resemble sort of like support forums for people with terminal illnesses.

And I think it's like the greatest observation. Like it's such a great and accurate observation. It sort of runs counter to your point, but it is true, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I'm not sure, I don't know what to do. I've tried everything. It's like, I've tried everything. The look, have you increased the RAM? I know a guy. But yeah, but PCs are real fucking ugly. Listen, I don't want to be rude. Maybe you got like, you might have like your RGB, you know, your fans and you got your,

and that's like, it's an aesthetic. I get it. Like it is like, we've taken, I'm the person in the world who plays the most video games and is the most allergic to PC aesthetic. I mean, listen, we've taken, we've taken, we've taken this, like kind of like, we've taken the,

you know, it's interesting because the founder of something awful died this week and low tax was his name. Maybe he had a real name, but no one knows that one. So anyhow, we've taken the aesthetic of like, I could say like the something awful forums, which is like old school internet, like the really kind of, and not just like obviously something awful, there was a really really horrible shit on there,

but the aesthetic of the original internet and old like old school internet people, I feel like the PC design language has very much, it's like we took some weird like geosities aesthetic and turned it into like what a PC looks like. It is like, we literally are like, oh, you know, it's cool, it's like when the color cycle. It's like color cycling was a thing you could do

on the internet in the early days and people were like, whoa, dude, like, how did you make that line change colors? And it's like, this color cycling, it's like some HTML trick or script or whatever. And people were like, damn, that's fucking the shit. Like, for a while, even up to like the mind space era, maybe a little bit beyond like a lot of stuff on the internet did color cycling. Now we're like, you know, I understand the rise of cheap, cheap LED lights and multi-colored

lights and all that stuff, but like just straight up, you know, we've just, the aesthetic is like, you know, we have Ge the aesthetic is like You know, we have geo city Boxes, you know everyone looks like a mall kiosk full of things that they're trying to sell to teenagers Yeah, I won't buy computers are like they're like from hot topic, you know Yeah, they're like it's bad. It's bad. It's really tacky. I'm sorry like this shit The most computers are super tacky. I know you don't wanna hear this because you're part of the master race, the PC master race, but it's really, they are aesthetically just fucking hideous.

And I know a lot of people, I see a lot of people similar to the master race it's out. Wow, so true. Not just fucking so similar and just uninteresting, no flavor, no seasoning, no fucking heat, just a potato, just a potato. It's a fucking boiled potato. Anyhow. Anyhow, TNG engineering, the probably the most one of the most interesting companies in the world, in my opinion, who make, you know, what they do is largely audio, you know, 99% audio related, whether it's making things

like the OP1, which is, you know, a revolutionary, you know, micro synth, basically self-contained like audio workstationstation or making weird speakers or they've done some interesting collaborations with IKEA doing audio stuff. And, but their aesthetic is like, it's so perfectly pitched for, it's like if Deeter Rams was in the year 3000, it's like just the right kind of spot of like,

looks cool and futuristic, but also, doesn't look so futuristic. And in some ways, looks kind of old, that it feels like it's almost out of time, like it's unstuck from our timeline and has its own like special space. I think there's a few, there's a few people, there's a few, I mean, I would say,

you might say certain Apple designs are like this. I don't think they go near, they're not nearly as interesting. Teenage engineering did the nothing earbuds, which like say what you will about how they are as earbuds, they're a really, really cool design. Oh, yeah. I mean, Teenage Engineering made a camera like a, um, yeah, the impossible, the impossible. I have one.

Yes. Absolutely stunning. not a great camera. Not a great camera, I wouldn't take that out. You need a full device. I wouldn't take that out to shoot the kids or anything. I haven't even taken it out of the box. Well, I have, I took it out of the box and it's, you can leave it in there, I would say, just leave it. But anyhow, so they are awesome industrial designers

and they created a They created This PC case out of nowhere like I just at one day it appeared and and it's really cool looking and it's bright orange Which I love but and they show some of their iterations of other designs They had and it's like please make those as well, but I do think it's it's high time and this goes a cry And I think we've probably tied by this before, but so many pieces, areas of technology where it's like, from an aesthetic standpoint, I think we can do better. I think that it's so funny how long it's been, it took so long for other companies who

were competing with Apple in the phone space or in the earbuds space or in the laptop space, even there, it's still so fucking boring and so dry and so dry, but there have been occasional pops of interesting design. I just think it's like these are devices that are so much a part of our lives, they are so, we're so deeply connected to them on so many levels. And yet they still look like, you know, they just look just like, they're not, there's

nothing has personality, nothing has, there's no exploration of materials, there's no exploration of textures, there's no exploration of different design languages. Like you know, you see the ps5 and you're like You know, I think the ps5 is just completely ugly so hideous looking You know and people are like whoa like they tried a design. It's like okay. Yeah, they went they did something but you know, it's like It's so few and far between and in consumer technology that industrial design is really is compelling You know if Bayhard does some really interesting stuff, frog design, which I think he may work

at now, has historically done, I'm not sure about that, don't quote me on that, has historically done some really, really interesting design. Obviously, John E.I. have has his little pocket. I don't agree with all of his design choices, but there have been pops here and there, but generally speaking, shit kind of looks dumb. And PC's especially, it's like, if I see one more black box with a see-through, you know, a fucking smoked see-through panel

that shows you're, you know, worrying multicolor, color cycling, RGB fans, you know, I'm gonna lose it. So this is interesting, but here's the thing, sorry, just to round out this conversation. So I've got one coming here, and I'm very excited about it. But they had in the pictures of the, I think it's called the computer one, is the name of it, in the pictures of the computer one, they had something that I thought was very strange.

I'd never seen before. They have a picture of the God, this thing, so fucking awesome, I can't wait to build this. Oh, also, it's like, it's. So fucking awesome, I can't wait to build this. Oh, also, it's like, it's made of metal that you bend because they have these modular sins. They've made it with this kind of bendable steel. And God, it's so awesome, it's aluminum actually. But, these, whatever you man, shut up, okay?

We all make mistakes. They show it with a monitor. And I'm like, what the fuck is this monitor? It is a large square monitor, okay? And I was like, in the input chat in the Slack was like, what's this monitor? So it's made by this company called ISO. And I think ISO is a Japanese company,

but they make like industrial displays, basically for radiology labs and stuff. And this is a monitor they make. It's a 27 inch monitor. It's 1920 by 1920. It's a one, one monitor. It is like an Instagram, first off, one of the things I will be doing when I,

so, okay, so I was like, I gotta get this monitor. And also, I will say this, I have a wide-screen monitor on my desk, and I kind of think maybe it's like, it's kind of a pain in the ass to like, look way over on one side, then way over on the other side. And it's like, is this actually a good setup for what I do every day? And I was like, this square monitor could be the answer.

So I found one at a fairly decent price in Germany and from a place called Groove's Land, which I'm like, all right, I guess so. I'm gonna roll the dice on Groove's land. And then Groove's- So this is the point, me, Merkel. Yeah, don't fuck me. Hey, by the way, for some reason,

this was able to get off the boat because they were like, oh, can you fill out this form? FedEx needs you to fill out this port of entry form? I'm like, what is this? They're like, yeah, it's like, is this product safe to use in the US? Is it like an FDA?

Does this have FDA approval or something? I think either because of this company or because it's like a monitor being shipped from Germany. At any rate, I had to fill out a form that was like, what port will this enter? I'm like, I don't know, but here's the, I literally had to find like the FDA approval for this monitor.

Oh my God. And write it, find the number and put it on the form and say like, I'll be taking receipt of this and it's okay. Like, I'm not gonna, it's like, it's been approved for Google Docs. It's been approved, yes. Seriously, it's been approved for you, so the US, it's just 100% medically safe anyhow. So I got the monitor there and I'm very excited to set it up.

It's actually sitting in a box here, I got it yesterday and it came in a crazy box that had like so much tape on it, I'm like, oh, this is definitely gonna be full of bricks. And I'm like, but the monitor was in there completely, in a completely untouched package, so I'm feeling, oh, this is definitely gonna be full of bricks. And I like, but the bother was that they're completely in a completely untouched package. So I'm feeling good about it. But this is, this story is when nowhere fast, but I just wanted to say that I'm excited to the Teenage Engineering made this PC case.

I think it is high time that we make computers way more interesting. And I think if you look at this at the computer one, you will see what I'm talking about. It just looks cool. It just looks like something you would want people to see and I don't think that's normal You know Yeah, I don't think that's normal usually your PC is like where can I hide this thing? I have I built my gaming PC I put it in this white this white case and it's like it's fairly

Inoffensive, but I would have liked a better case There just weren't really any options. Like, to fit the components, and by the way, this thing actually may not fit all my components, so I have to figure out, because it is a little small, I got to figure out what I'm going to do. I was thinking about building a whole new computer based on. I was going to say, I guess they'll just have

to go keep shopping. Well, I have my desktop here, which I might just disassemble and then reassemble inside of this case, because I think my desktop here, which I might just disassemble and then reassemble inside of this case, because I think my components will fit, but I have multiple, of course, as you know, multiple computers I've built. So it gives them a sick person, and I need help, and this is a cry for the help that I so badly need. But anyhow, so I think that was interesting.

I think it's cool, and I just think that design interesting. I think it's cool and I just think that design, you would think it'd become more of a topic with everything these days. I mean, we cover so much streetwear and like, and the shoe game is such an, is such an interesting place right now. I just bought some Nike's, Nike's, do people say that?

Nike's? I don't know, man. It's so out of it at this point. I gotta tell you, I'm fucking losing it. I bought these Nike waffle one shoes, which are they make a pair. I bought weirdly about two pairs of the exact same shoe with obviously different colorways, not exact same,

but they're making them with, it's like this weird kind of future hybrid of an old-ass shoe, an old waffle, you know, I guess you'd call them the waffle racer. And they're called the waffle one, I believe. And they have them in really awesome color ways, but also they have a version of it that are made with like sustainable, some of their sustainable materials that they've been using where it's like recycled bits of shoes.

And they just look, they look of the moment in a way that I just feel like very few things do. Obviously fashion and shoes, it's like you're not, it should not be surprising to see that stuff. But why don't we see it in consumer technology? Like, I think it's kind of crazy, to be honest, that so few risks are taken. I know I've talked about this a million times, so few risks are taken in phone design

or in laptop design or in just literally any goddamn thing. You know? So, I applaud and I'm excited about anybody who takes a chance, anybody's, any German design weirdos. I think they're German. No, they're sweetish or something. Where are they from? Speaking of the math for real.

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Anyhow, what else is on the subject, on the docket today? Speaking of new tech stuff, one of our electric cars. Mm-hmm. Actually, perfect place. Yeah, so Subaru finally showed off their electric car. I'll tell you something, we have an electric car for a lesbians. I know, I've been saying, car for a lesbians. I know. I've been saying What was a lesbians drive is what I'm always is actually right after I ask about the poem to or I'm like do you have any idea what?

What electric car will be available available for lesbians? The but Subaru announced his car the salt era well, they had announced it previously, but they kind of showed it off I guess yesterday and They had announced it previously, but they kind of showed it off yesterday. It looks like a Subaru. It's a little bit futuristic, but if you saw it, you wouldn't be like, this is a... Actually, the design is sort of whatever. It's not what I... It looks like a Subaru slick to tear back.

Yeah, I don't hate the design. It is definitely somewhat futuristic. I would like it has a shoe vibe to it. In fact, a lot of cars, I think a lot of modern cars kind of look like shoes, like modern shoes. And there's a real parallel there. I like a lot of what they're doing. There's some pretty weird choices. I think if you like the Cybertruck, you might look at this

and be like, yeah, I'm kind of into that. But what's cool about the saltara, the name is not one of those things. I think it's a terrible name. It sounds like a chip. You know, it's like saltara. Every Subaru thing has the same name. It's like sun and earth, right?

Soul and terror is like sun and earth. I just think of like sun chips and there's, I think there's also tarot chips as a thing. So that's my takeaway of the naming. But what's cool about it is this is like, they have included all of the Subaru stuff, which like Subaru has all this off-road. All these, I mean, Subaru's are kind of built for,

not like, I mean, yes, you can take them hardcore off-road, but they're built for like more rugged sort of areas. Like everybody's been talking about the Rivian, the new Rivian pickup truck because it's like can do all this off road stuff and it's a kind of built for you know not just smooth paved highways I mean if you own a Tesla or drive a Tesla which I do it's you know they're not really built for you kind of feel like you can kind of really feel the vibe of how the people who designed that car mostly live in like lived in Northern California and

Weren't like how's this gonna be on some ice or whatever or a rock so The but the new but the new Subaru is is has all the Subaru stuff like X-Bode Which is a which is a mode that we have at our car that I joke about all the time But we have used in certain rugged areas. X mode is like an extra grippy suspension setup or gearing setup or whatever. I don't know clearly. I'm not I'm not that smart, but but so this kind of is like a Subaru in the way that you can take it on all sorts of terrain.

And that is exciting and interesting to me. And I'm one of the things I thought was cool about the Cybertruck is this idea that it is more of a, you know, sort of cross terrain vehicle. And I don't, I feel like the current crop of Teslas, or even like, you know, the Volvo Electric or whatever, are all kind of feel a little bit less engineered for those types of situations. And since I live in a somewhat rural area, and we have bad winter here, I'm highly appreciative of what they're doing. So, anyway, I'm hoping that in once fucking Joe Biden

lets the boats through and makes, he personally gets more chips made or whatever they need to make us. I bet there's 40,000 of these made with no chips to plug into them. They're like, this will be great once we can put the computer in. Right now it's just a car. There's a, there's a motor.

There's like a motor, but it can't do anything. The pedal we made on the rod of seats. It doesn't steer, but you can push it. We can, we can, like, it'll be a nutrient, you could kind of push it, and it'll look like it's been like a Flintstone situation. We made one. We found one set of semiconductors, and we were able to produce this car for the video.

And that's it. Anyhow, it's kind of a cool car, but here's the thing that is in the grand scheme. I just feel like the EV stuff, I feel like we are on a path now with electric vehicles that is, it is an unstoppable shift to vehicles that don't take, you know, that don't. Now, this is not to say that electric vehicles are just like automatically the most eco-friendly thing in the world.

I mean, we know that the production of these batteries has huge ecological impact, though nothing comparatively to what we're doing, what we've done with oil, right? And what we're doing with oil. And this, like, you know, I think it's kind of amazing that, obviously, we're not there yet, but to imagine a world where, where, you know, all the new cars or most of the new cars that are released are not gasoline cars.

Is it even dream bigger electric powered public transit? Let's not talk about, don't talk about it. It's horrible discussing ideas, okay? You know? I saw the opening of Titan last night. Isn't that enough for me? Which is by the way, super obsessed with like, oil dripping from cars. It a whole new level that I think.

You got to the car sexy, right? Oh yeah, which is fucking great. I mean, maybe there's more than one, but I was like, not only is this funny and weird and just kind of like aesthetically a beautiful scene, Not only is this funny and weird and beautiful, just kind of aesthetically a beautiful scene, but also, it was highly erotic, in my opinion. I mean, you kind of maybe wanna have sex with a car,

I'll be honest with you. I wish I was the lesbian, so I could have sex with. If only I could angle myself, you see the gear shift on the testless are kind of in a not in a great, very hard to have sex with, in my opinion. I assume that's where that's the thing you would, you know, be doing it with, like I feel like that. Yeah. I feel like on a treat,

not the trust, yeah, on a traditional part. Oh, yeah, I feel like, I have one. Damn it. Exactly. It's really problematic. You just getting the frunk and jerk off. Um, the, I just feel like I'm a traditional, like, you got a traditional low rider or whatever. You would just, you know,

whatever. You just right there. You're riding low and dirty. Wow. Anyhow, so, but I think that this push towards electric vehicles is interesting and obviously comes with other trade-off, but is, is, I, I see it as a positive, a positive, you know, sort of development. I'm also very excited about seeing people make cars that are superior to what Tesla makes, which like, you know, by the way, I was like, I tweeted about this car and people were like, I was like, cancels model why order, jokingly, but also maybe not. Depends on when these will be available. And people are like, accelerations for seconds slower. And it's like, yeah, well, here's the thing.

You know, many times I've needed to use the four-second acceleration on my car. It's nice to have it if I'm running from a fucking Dr. Robotnik is after me or something. If I've got a merge, yes, great to have some decent acceleration, but zero to 60 in four seconds is not a thing that I'm needing a lot. It's like the self-driving stuff. I have used it in instances where I had know, I had to like, you know, there are very short periods of time, like I need it, like I dropped something on the floor and I need to pick it up and I didn't want to like, try to like steer the car or whatever.

Or, you know, I had to like, there was some emergency message from Laura that I need to answer immediately and I'm like, I don't want to like try to do this while I'm like, steering the car. There's like, it's like for one minute or 30 seconds or something, which I find terrifying, by the way, even, you know, in the shortest situation. I could never, I could never. But like driving at all.

Yeah, but you have autopilot when you're on public transit, man, you know, just guy up front, okay? The person, person up front is your autopilot. You don't worry about that. I do believe that the New York City subway is a better build quality than Tesla. What about a bus, you know, you don't know what's gonna happen.

You don't know. At any rate, Sean Chi as by the way, I- Is that out? Can I get it? Yeah. Like, can I watch it on Disney? Oh no, I think I'm on Disney? Oh, no. I think on the theater for any of this shit, I'm sorry.

I like, I would, first of all, I've only seen one Marvel movie in the theater, okay? And I, the second, whatever the second Avengers thing was, I've seen all of them in the theaters because they did it in one go. Well, I know that, but that's a whole other situation that you need to address with your therapist. But what I'm saying is, I don't have topic, but how do Shang-Chi come up? Busses.

Do you agree that's their correct pronunciation? I think you questioned whether or not that was the correct pronunciation last time. Yeah, but I pronounce everything wrong. I'm from Long Island. I see Mario. Mario wrong. I say everybody's name wrong. It's true. I give I've given up. No, no, you're it's okay. Good. Well at any rate. So wait, how do we get on what what was I saying that you derailed me from? We were talking about EVs. No, but why did you mention, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, right.

But there was something I was gonna say. At any rate, then I said, some of you have buses. Oh, I'm just looking forward to a car that does stuff better than Tesla, so I don't have to, cause I'll be honest with you, I test drove the new Volvo, and I liked it, it's a little small for me actually,

but I will say the autopilot stuff and the electronics and just the general like how this car manages itself, it is quite impressive. I haven't seen anybody reach that level yet. I also, I mean, I test drove a bunch of electric cars a couple of years ago, which there was a way fewer options. Like Audi had one and Jaguar had one. I mean, there's just all like, you know, even on the high-end stuff Is what I'm saying like they're they're very like I don't know. I feel like they're kind of still behind the curve from a from a

You know Tesla really does feel like it is that jump from and I hate to say this because I think you know, I must totally blows I'm trying again. It's like Charlton Heston like actually It's a great example of a Charlton Heston. Like actually, it's a great example of a Charlton Heston situation where like, if that dude never said anything and I had no idea what his opinions were, everybody's life would be a lot better. And like just, I think everybody would be happier

to not have to hear from that person. It's like dude, I don't know, you're a billionaire. Haven't you said enough with just that fact? I mean, if I've said this before, but if I'm a baser, like, basis just did this embarrassing Leonardo DiCaprio tweet, we should talk about that actually. But I don't know,

if I'm a billionaire man, I just am like not gonna tweet at all, I don't care. Like, I'm gonna find something better to do with my time. I think we would all... Yeah, but these people are fundamentally sick because nobody would hoard this amount of money in the current world that we live in. No, everybody would.

They weren't like fucking, I would not. Everybody would, if you would. No, I would not. You, you, you, yeah, you get, so me, can you, I would billion dollars. I can't sleep, I can't sleep at night with the things I currently have. You know the amount of guilt I have. You have to look in your heart because I think the truth is you get that 10, you you get 10 billion dollars tomorrow I would spend myself way back right back down to a hundred million Oh, they'd be like yeah, but then yeah a hundred million what are you gonna do then they're like?

They're gonna take go half of this to taxes, you know, you look suddenly start being like where can I talk this way Well kind of offshore situation can I get this into with that hundred million you just start Briding the poor people in your life to like you. I think that's fair enough. They're just redistribution of wealth. Ryan, there's nobody who doesn't like you. Come on. Ha ha ha ha. Anyway, wait a second, hold on.

So I'm looking forward to a car that improves upon Tesla and also hopefully shames Elon Musk into questioning his life choices. But yeah, so, God, this has been a real ramble from me, but... Teenage engineering, make a car. Yeah, seriously. Let's talk about Pinterest.

Oh, right. I do wanna get back to that Bezos tweet. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, his Twitter account is a clusterfuck. The man needs to just quit. I don't know. I, somebody, some random person I believe, like made a joke about Jeff Bezos

about Leonardo DiCaprio stealing his girlfriend, because there's like video of Leonardo DiCaprio talking her to party and she seems, she does seem, I will admit, like, very smitten. I mean, you know, as you know, body language, it can mean a lot of different things. I have never, at once, been ever able to have sex with a woman. And if Beyonce talked to me, I would flirt back.

What are you fucking talking about? It's a famous person. Right. I mean, it's a routine thing. It's a real hard to caprio. But, but then, but somebody was like, somebody was like, oh, you know, Leo's about to steal Jeff's girl or whatever. And then Jeff basis like, quote tweeted it.

Couldn't handle it. It's so weird because like, the guy doesn't tweet a lot about stuff of, you know, personal stuff or at all. And it was like a picture of him shirtless, like flexing, resting his head, resting his arms on a sign that was like danger, like steep cliff or something. And his tweet was like, hey Leo, at Leo D'Art de Caise, this is so embarrassing. He's like, hey, it's like, he says Leo casually like him and Leo D'Art de Caise, we are good buddies,

but then also has to add him, which is like, I don't know. Very cool. Something weird about it. And he's like, hey Leo, come here. I have something I want to show you. And, uh, definitely looks like, looks like, uh, uh, some kind of cruising. Yeah. I, I, I, I think I, obviously the intention of the tweet was, I'm, if I'm to read into the basics of what I'm seeing, uh, like, not my girlfriend, I want to fuck you.

Jeff Bezos is like, I'm gonna toss Leon in order to cap you off this cliff for trying to steal my girlfriend, which is like, you know, he's making a joke. It's a dumb joke. And since he definitely had people murdered before, not that funny. He's had them silence at the very least.

He said they're fucking teeth ripped out. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly, we don't know. Jess is very nice. Actually, you know, who knows? I mean, I don't know if he's ever had anybody. Probably not. Why would he have to have people kill us?

Definitely not. I mean, why kill someone when he can just like buy them off or whatever, you know. I don't know. That's six, six billionaire mine. I don't think. Jess and Innocent Guy, he started in his garage. You know, he happened to find, you know, I'll say this, you know, people give Jeff

Bezos a lot of shit and and some of it's very deserved, but you know, the guy is living the American dream, okay? He was a privileged white man and he took what I assume is like some kind of um, you know Family wealth or at least like had access to some money and turned it into of the biggest business in the world you know and i think that's the american dream uh... but like the u.s. government always the american dream can i tell you something funny about jeff business that i heard i'd love that uh... i was watching a vick burger video genius wonderful doing great work over

a lot of love love vick burger uh... i did not know that jeff bays us for many years uh... his routine was to wake up in the morning turn on his oven put in an entire uh... package of pills buried did biscuits

no i love it i love it yes he would go in the shower he would come out of the shower take it out then while they were hot put stuff on them and eat them with his hands and then go to work he needed entire package of bills very biscuits every morning that's that's not right yes yes is that like a bullet or something he it was at like a conference he was talking about how it's like his like fitness revolution how he got so fit every job like ten times I mean you can't really fit if you don't eat an entire package of bills very fucking what are they? The biscuits? Yes.

And then those are like, he was delivering this. How many get rid of it? 12 biscuits per package or something. Yes. He was delivering this in the moment. What is he putting on? I'm, so I'm imagining that he's going through like a kind of like a, like a 12 course.

Oh, so I was thinking he'd start with like, he'd start with like a, it's kind of like aportee sort of version of the biscuit. Like he started with like a mint, like a mint something or something on the, like, he'd start with like, it's kind of like, aperte sort of version of the biscuit. Like, he'd start with like a mint, like a mint, something or something on the, like I don't know what would be like, I'm trying to think of like, what's an appetizer? Yeah, I like a mint jelly on the first biscuit

and the second biscuit is like, is like a, some kind of biscuit, like tomato biscuit on the biscuit and then, there's like, there's like a, a Caesar, like a Caesar biscuit. I'm trying to imagine like, I bet you that's why he has his private chef's do now. And then, there's like a seizure, like a seizure biscuit. I'm trying to imagine like, I bet you that's why he has his private chef stew now.

Like a seizure, chicken seizure, biscuit. And then there's like, the main course is gonna stake. It's like, stake. And then there's like a dessert. There's like another, there's like a post, dinner. Too flisky. There's a, there's a, what is it called? Digestief, there's like a, what is it?

Digestief's like a port biscuit. And then, I don't know, say it in a cell of, and then, and't know if it's gonna say a little shallow. And then, by the way, you're almost a 12 year, maybe he eats two for each, you know, serving. And then each course, and then if he had, you know, he has like a chocolate glaze, you know. Pills, peels, peels, peels, peels, peels, peels,

peels, peels, peels, peels, peels, peels, peels, and then he's like, honestly, I think this is a great idea for a restaurant, maybe as a follow up to Dippers. Biscuits, biscuits with a Z. Biscuits, okay? And it's actually we can include Dipper's toppings on this because the Dips, I mean you know, think about all of the variety of Dips. You literally have the courses right there in Dip form.

You just simply dip the top of the biscuit before you bring it out. Okay? This is fucking. This is this is this is it. I have I finally found the follow-up to dippers that we've been talking about for so long biscuits biscuits. Anyhow. Okay. so he's sitting he's leaning on the sign And he's like sweaty and shirtless and you know like he's Jeff Bezos now, but he has muscles And it's like hey, Lee. I'll come up here. I want to show you something and so like oh you's gonna You know push Leo off the cliff, but like then something tweeted like it's like Like Jeff Bezos is cruising and it's like yeah the like jeff baseless is cruising and it's like yeah the way other way to do this is like

i also would like to have sex with jeff with uh... with uh... leonard decaperia which you know i i mean i've only seen an h g h roided up bald man in the woods with no shirt on who was trying to find that no he does he does the does throw i mean in that picture for sure he does throw off the vibe of like that dude at the bar You know who's like he like was married

He has a family right he finally like came out right like middle age He came out middle age and he's like all in and he's fucking living it He's just out there doing it and he's at the bar and he wants to fuck and he's gonna tell you so inviting his teenage kids to come to P-Town it's so fun he says no listen i'm in i say more power to you live your truth that is what i'm all about just why my timeline

which is how i became a member of the pc master race um anyhow i would also say anything else we should just oh you want to talk about the Pinterest story the Pinterest Okay, okay, so we had this conversation actually it's been an ongoing conversation in many circles from many people been talking about a For a long time. I'm not you know, it's been a thought literally every person a lot of people are saying a lot of people You missed Donald Trump right? Yeah

Hey, this price these diner prices wouldn't be so high if that guy was doing poor, okay I'm just I don't even know anymore, but Yes, a Pinterest man. Have you done a fucking image search on the internet recently? It's insane every fucking image is a Pinterest link, okay low-res Pinterest Yeah, you're like you know, I'll you search for anything give me a you know, you search for anything. Give me a term, right now. Give me a term. Let me search term. Go ahead, do it.

Anything. Vampire children. Vampire children. Okay, vampire children. All right, here we go. Image results. You ready? First link.

Okay, actually, actually there aren't a lot of Pinterest links for your vampire children, huh? There are some Pinterest. there are some Pinterest. There are some Pinterest. Mace truck. That's more like it. Mace it. Jars.

Fudge, Google's called the police right now. Like, actually a lot of the first links for Mace and Jars are Amazon, eBay, IKEA. I think we need to go a little bit more specific. I'm looking for like, maybe I'm looking for sofas Like how about orange orange sofa, okay? That's what people might be looking for on the internet I spent six months looking for an orange sofa last year actually actually have they done something recently because I'm seeing way fewer Pinterest links here than I've seen recently like way fewer like

They don't wait is, do I still have, I actually downloaded a Pinterest plugin that we mentioned in this story. Oh, anyhow, maybe I'm running the Pinterest plugin. You've been blocking Pinterest. I'm blocking Pinterest is what's happening. They didn't clean it out, don't worry. I'm like, wow, there's not really any Pinterest links here.

It's like, because I fucking literally installed a script to erase Pinterest links from my image searches. So here's the thing. So Pinterest basically, like what they do is when you save something to Pinterest and a lot of people have saved a lot of things to Pinterest. And by the way, I will say as I am a Pinterest user and I like Pinterest, like I think it has uses, okay?

Like if you're a white woman planning a wedding in your backyard. Oh, no, there are many uses. It's not just for white ladies anymore, okay? I use Pinterest, so. I'm not trying to be, I don't wanna be a Pinterest like, you know, a polygist. Apologist, but I'm just saying,

there's good stuff on there, but here's the thing, when you put something on Pinterest, when you clip something or whatever, you save it, it makes a copy of the image. And yeah, there's some source stuff or whatever most of the time, but it creates this copy. And because Pinterest, of course Pinterest is like, well, this we're ranked high, because people click on the links or whatever.

And it's like, sure. But what happened is people people click on the links or whatever. And it's like, sure. But what happened is people are clicking on the links because you're the first link, because you basically like hijacked the SEO search engine optimization for these images, and you copy the images from their source. So they no longer exist. Like, if I'm an artist and I'm like, here's my art on my website, and then a bunch of people are like,

oh, I clipped this guy's art because I was using his inspo for my living room or whatever. Now, suddenly, the links when you search for that particular type of image or maybe even that particular artist, you're getting a Pinterest link. And it basically over time has kind of hijacked the image search on the internet. And it's really bad and kind of like,

you know, feels like it should be way under control by Google or somebody else and they've like kind of just been asleep at the wheel. And the worst feeling in the world is when you're looking for a very specific gift and you need it for some specific purpose, which does come up in my life more than you think. And you click through and then it's a crappy low res version, but you know what's the right thing. You're like fine. You're hunting it. Yeah. Yes. So you go in and then it's like you're at Pinterest and Pinterest is like, you got a log in and you're like, fuck,

I don't even remember my password. Fine. So you make a new account or you log in or you figured out you get in there and it's the low res version that's pinned and you're like, fine, I'll just follow the link and then you follow the link and it's dead. And you're like, I hate this guy. It's crazy. So fucking what? It's dead. And you're like, I hate this. It's crazy. So fucking life. It's crazy. And so they've been just doing this thing where they're grafting on, like they're just grafting, you know, grabbing these images and creating this, you know, this

like, basically they redirect everybody. I mean, it redirects many, many searches like that into Pinterest is great for their business. Obviously great for reinforcing the problem, which is that they've hijacked image search, right? And the more you have to click on that image to find the source, the more you are clicking on Pinterest, the more Google is going like, well, people love clicking on Pinterest.

But it's actually like, you know, that they've created the problem that they are now solving. So yeah, it's really anyhow, really egregious and kind of awful of them. And in many ways, it's really anyhow, really egregious and kind of awful of them in many ways is one of the, it's one of those things that we've, that has slowly happened and you know, we've been like, well that's just the way the internet is now, but if you stop for a second, it's actually like maybe the internet doesn't have to be like that, you know, like we all have

been operating, like this is it, here's how the internet works. We're kind of stuck doing this, but that's not true. It just is that way because we've let these companies run a monk, a monk, or they have gained the system and nobody has stopped them or countered it. I mean, I think that honestly, I was talking, and Laura actually brought, I mean, the way this came up as, ended up as an article for us, is that I have talked about it before.

I know a bunch of people have talked about it. I feel like we've even had conversations about it in the input slack, but Laura was talking about it, and I was like, reminded, because she was doing something, and it's like, you know, Laura is, I mean mean obviously she does this all the time But but is I'm like I'm in I'm like looking for images every day I'm searching for something and I think for her was like she hadn't been looking recently and went and looked and was like this is really bad and And she we started talking about I'm like yeah like this is some, they should be called out for this. And if you search, you know, if you actually go and look,

like plenty of people have complained about this, plenty of people have talked about it. But hopefully like, I would like to think that with more pressure, public pressure, I just heard a cat, I know the cat agrees with me. You know, like maybe this can change, maybe it can get better. And so, so anyhow, so we did a story about every Shared Ins. Really interesting and has

some very interesting points. Also, if you want has a link to anything that will help you to stop seeing Pinterest links in your image searches, which is, which is, and I will say, I mean, you don't want, there are reasons why you want, there are plenty of good reasons why you want, like, you might want to get a Pinterest link sometimes. Like, and honestly, I can't think of one. Well, I mean, you may wanna put it on your Pinterest board or whatever.

But then I would go to Pinterest. Oh, listen, don't give me this fucking bullshit, okay? Just agree with my point. Yeah, go to Pinterest, you know? Go to Pinterest. Keep your pins over on Pinterest. I mean, I'm not saying I'm not listening. I mean they They should have you got to put it in our face. I'm not like I'm not saying Pinterest should have no Representation in the image search game, but like if I were Google and I saw that Pinterest Had a link, you know, had up an image in their search that was coming up in my search that had

a source link to something that was, that predated it and was the original. Obviously, there's a kind of slippery slope here, but I would say find a way to favor some of those more often. That would be a great start, you know. It's not like that device Pinterest from breaking the internet. Yeah, yeah. I just think, but also, I will say, sorry, I was going to say about, we've talked, when you get down to it, when you start to think about some of this stuff,

I mean, to me, I was talking to Laura the other day about content on the internet and why it's gotten so, the all of the problems within and how in many ways, the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal, whatever the classic traditional publication, they were sort of like when blogging was happening and when bloggers were becoming a thing that was a rising and prominence.

Their thing was like we're the newspaper. Like a magazine was like we're a magazine. This is what we do. We have a certain set of standards. We have a certain way of doing things. Like we don't do things at this speed. We don't do things at this in this style. And like in a lot of ways they were wrong,

they were wrong about a lot of things. But like what was true was their level of like what they were trying to do was very different. Like today, like when you search for something, you will see clickbait headlines and click, but frankly straight up clickbait articles that emanate from the New York Times as much as they emanate from like Joe's, you know, Joe's little blog or whatever, right? Like the same kind of shit that someone is trying to get you to click on over it there, let's say the daily caller, okay, or Mashable or Buzzfeed or whatever, is the same thing that the New York Times wants you to click on, right?

And so this weird thing has happened where we have, and it's not, by the way, the incentive is not just because bloggers were so good at doing articles on the internet and people were clicking on those instead of the New York Times. It's really because Google incentivizes a certain way of thinking about content, which is like, if you type in a search, we're going to deliver a result. Great idea. We're going to help you find things on the internet, right? And over time, there were these certain tricks you could pull to get people to find your content

or get your content prioritized over other people's, right? As SEO became a practice and as like the window through which we find content became narrow and narrower and was down to what Google thought was the way to find it. We're like typing in the thing that we want, and then they're deciding what is their algorithm, deciding what is the thing that will give you that thing. The truth is, like any system, it can be gameed, and it has been gameed. And as it's been gameed over and over and over again, everybody now games it, and the

overall quality of everything is just fucking gone down. Right? Everybody now games it and the overall quality of everything is just fucking gone down right now users game it back by putting in scripts and little Operators and bubble bubble blah. Yeah, so Google has to account for the people gaming it on both ends to try to find the right thing to bring to be it's And if you search for it like the truth is like you search for any topic now and It's there's so much shit and I I'm, you know, I know that maybe this is an old man argument, but it's not because the truth is like the information's bad. There's so much garbage out there. Search for any one thing. And Google has made us all believe. And this is what I was saying about one of those things that just exists on the

internet. We think that's the way it's supposed to be. And so we just keep doing it. But the truth is like, Google has made us all believe that when you search for a thing, like, how do I fix a leaky drain? Okay, this is like, I'm actually working, I'm building a show about, I'm like remodeling a bathroom in my house, and I've been building a shower, which I've never done before,

and so there's a lot of things that I Google that are, and frankly, I find a lot of good stuff, but there's a lot of shit that is not good. And the truth is that like, Google made us all believe one that you can make money if you can answer that question effectively by gaming the system, whether or not you have a good answer

or an answer that's useful or one that is well presented, there are ways you can get that thing to be the top result. But we also believe that there should be like a thousand variations of the answer to that question. And the truth is there are not a thousand variations, really. Okay, and like we've so lost the ability to like parse where the quote, what like an actual answer is or an actual thing that can help us

or a structured way to understand the how to get that information, that it's just like become this sort of mountainous cluster fuck that we're all constantly digging ourselves out of every day, you know sort of uh... mountainous cluster fuck that were all trot constantly digging ourselves out of every day you know and it's like that's clustered fuck and a picture sure it was just yeah he's at the top of it man sliding down it he's all the all the all the all the oiled body you know i got something to decide everybody's all about on the mountainous cluster fucking he's slide down it towards le towards Leo DiCaprio. And that's good for him,

but like grabbing money out of everybody's pocket along the way if they're wearing pants, if they're not, then you know, I... He's using it to blast himself to space-sweets grabbing it from somewhere else. That clusterfuck. But I do think like we are so overdue for a rethink of how all of this shit works.

It's like this stuff with Facebook that's come up where we talk about Facebook. They're like, well, they have three billion users. It's this like ineffable, you know, this sort of, all this thing that must exist in our reality. Like, well, we got to have it. You know, got to communicate. Got to, people have to be connected. It's like, what do they?

In this way? Like, why? This idea is from 20 fucking years ago. And the internet's totally changing, the way we communicate totally changing, the devices we use have totally changed. And we're still, are we still, we still think that we need to have the thing where the fucking lady posts about the diner prices and I got to hear from a guy who I have zero connection to, he's opinion on the political environment that created a expensive hamburger.

You know, like this is, so we are all operating in this fucking weird, like where we have these blinders on, we're like, that's how it's done. And here's what I think, it is in how it's done. We have no fucking idea how it's done, because we haven't actually tried any new ideas in like 20 goddamn years.

Like we are like, it's like Google, does the search thing and Facebook has this social thing, even Twitter is ancient by comparison. And we're like, oh, it's a list of comments, you know? Oh, like Google image search, this is how image search works. Like it's always how it should work.

Should there be even be image search? I mean, the answer is yes, but like, for the future is metaverse. Where everyone can connect to each other. Yeah. An environment created by our company. Right. Well, by the way, I mean, the metaverse shit,

not that I want to talk about it, but I've been thinking a lot about the metaverse and I just think like, you know, the one bit, no, but the one thing that nobody has seems to be really talking about is nobody wants to put on the VR headset. I know I do occasionally and you do occasionally, and there are some enthusiasts and I think it's grown in popularity and I believe there could be a future state where the headset

works. But I haven't seen any super duper hardcore evidence that like that's, you know, that any face attached item is going to be a thing. Like an eye attached item, weeks to get used to wearing like a sleeping mask, eye cover, it took me weeks, can't stand it. Also still don't love wearing a face mask. I do it because I'm not a sociopath.

But I don't, it's a large adjustment. And to do that with a giant piece of mechanical tech and then tell me that I'm supposed to swing around in it, like, this week I went to a demo by the supernatural VR people who do like exercise VR. And while the idea is great, there's a trainer in front of you, music, you're in ancient Egypt or on the moon, exercise, wow, just started coming at you.

Awesome, it sounds so cool, especially for someone with ADHD who like, whenever I exercise, one of the biggest problems for me is that like sheer boredom, if you don't have ADHD, you don't understand the level of torture that it is to stare at a wall for like an hour It's really bad and so I end up not exercising for that like psychological reason or I end up tricking myself with like an iPad playing music videos Or something but in any event I was like this is a great idea, but

Five minutes in you're sweaty and wearing a computer on your face. Yeah, I don't want to exercise like this I think I think like so, you know, of course there's that hurdle, but more to the point, and maybe more to my point, you know, it's like we are, again, operating, we're all like, oh yeah, we're like, oh yeah, that's gonna be a thing. It's like, that's not gonna be a thing in my opinion, not for a long time, and not in the way

that they're talking about it, not at all. But, but I do think, almost, you know, it's weird, but I guess like I'm in many ways saying the same thing about a lot of stuff on the show today, and I can connect up these disparate parts, that what I'm talking about when I talk about the PC stuff is very much what I'm talking about when I talk about the internet and about social networking and about the way we find things and about how information works and what information is

and whether it's good or bad or whether you're getting the thing that you need and want or you're getting something else, I think it's really, really hard to pull up out of it sometimes and go, wait a second, like what is happening here? I'll say this on the shower stuff just as a little little window in. I will say YouTube. Now there are things that YouTube is good for and bad for. I actually don't like watching how to do things usually on a YouTube video because you know, it's kind of like not a great format. It's like, oh, I need to see this step that this person is doing. Like, I need to like leave it here for a minute so I can understand what they're doing. Like,

I want to see this broken out, this one little piece of it. And so when you're watching a video, they kinda like people will go through it and you're kinda like, well I think I got it, but I have to keep her winding it. But what YouTube has done that I think is sort of, and there's a lot to say that's bad about YouTube,

plenty to say, but what is kind of amazing? And to me, almost articulates this bullshit that Mark Zuckerberg talks about so much better than Facebook ever could, is that like, unprompted, okay, or maybe because they thought, hey, I can make some money off this, or, but I think often, because people do want to share what they know. I see people, usually it's like kind of old school like construction workers or like plumbers or whatever, and they're like, I'm gonna walk you through this thing and how it works.

And yeah, I guess they can make money off of it, but I feel like a lot of them are kind of like, they just want to share what they know. And we've created a system where you actually can find, the Google has created a system, YouTube has created one, where you actually can find unbelievably useful things. Like I'm learning things from watching people on YouTube that I know that I could not learn.

There are not great, maybe partially because of the way the internet has been structured in the last 20 years, the way that this information has been so kind of bastardized by all of these like, gamed sort of systems that exist. But like, what's true is like, you know, if somebody is an expert at something and they're showing you how it's done, that's real and it's invaluable. And YouTube has created a system where you can actually find some of that and sometimes in incredible detail with incredible expertise. And so there is something there that's interesting,

but what I would say, like, and I'm sure people will tell me and tell you and whatever, that like, oh, those are on Facebook too. Sure, but like, there is no... You know what I said a lot more of on Facebook but like, there is no. A lot more of on Facebook is like, I pranked my girlfriend with Mentos and Diet Coke. Well, sure, there's that stuff on YouTube too. But what I think is interesting about YouTube is that I don't feel like anybody ever specifically said, this is what YouTube is for. I mean, in

my, I mean, now there are certainly, unquestionably, ideas about what YouTube is for and what it, what you do with it and how it works. And that's a big part of it. But I think there were, there have continued to be a lot of people who are using it the way the internet typically works, which is like, I want to share something or I want to talk about something or I want to like show you something. And I'm going to use this forum for it. And I think there's, I think there's something like, I'm not saying this forum for it. And I think there's something like,

I'm not saying that YouTube is great. YouTube has its own problems, but I think that, you know, it's one of those places where you might look and say, they got some stuff really right here, like actually, where we have these problems where we're constantly sort of going um you know oh god like I wanted to find something on Google but I've gotten I'm down a rabbit hole of complete bullshit. You know I do think there are places where it's they've

gotten some of it right. Like I don't think there's a better maybe there's not a better way to show me how the plumbing works in my shower then for this guy who's done this a million times to walk me through it. Maybe there is a better way and we haven't gotten to it yet, maybe we haven't gotten to it because YouTube exists, but I'll take like, you know, there's like a halfway point that I'm happy with. I will say, I just think we have so many things on the internet that we have not interrogated as to whether or not it actually addresses our needs or does something good for us or is the way we want to communicate or interact. And I would just like, I would love, I'm like, yes, regulation, yes, down with mass

appropriations controlling every corner of the internet. But even more than that, what I would love us to do is find some way to collectively evaluate like where these tools are at, where these services are at, and if they're delivering, you know, the things we actually need, and like it would be great to be able to say to Google, like why is search as bad as it is, you know? If this is your, if you had one job, which like, you know, I think we can agree

they had more than one job, but, you. But what's a thing that people search for? How to tie shoe laces? Maybe you're teaching a kid how to tie shoe laces, right? Oh, how to tie a tie? That's the one that auto predicts for him. That's even better. Do you know how many websites tell you how to tie a tie? For this particular phrase,

it says, okay, I'm gonna put it in quotes, just to save us a little bit of heartache. Says there's six million 120,000 results for how to tie a tie in quotes. That's like specifically that phrase, okay? Now, obviously that doesn't mean there's six billion individual guides on how to tie a tie, but there's a lot.

There's a lot. And like, here's a pinch set, by the way, second page is a bunch of Pinterest links. Business Insider. BusinessInsider.com, 18 ways to wear a necktie, chart, okay? The coolest, don't know what the fuck that is, 13 types of tie knots to master.

Lannyary.com, tie knots, all the most famous knots and how to make them. Realmenstyle.com, how to tie a tie knot. That's a little optimized there. Brooks Brothers. Now, Brooks Brothers kind of makes sense. How to tie a Windsor knot? They're the like 20th result on the page, by the way, in case you're wondering, sir. I'm on not how do they get on not styles? I must actually click something But the point is how to tie a Windsor not they're actually the first result the not that's a website

I guess it's a I'm guessing that's a wedding website. I believe how to tie a tie ties calm how to tie a neck tie Tie a tie dot net Tie a tie dot net learn how to tie a tie neck tie knots from bows and ties dot com the manual how to tie a tie now let me tell you something just one of these is probably good maybe several of them are we only need one we only need one good guide on how to tie different types of ties okay a different knots and the truth is all of these people, like for instance, politics.com.au, how to tie a tie,

artofmanliness.com, John, or sorry, JohannErik.com, many of these exist purely your realmenstile.com, like fucking guarantee, your realmenstile.com is owned by some, it's like their entire existence is predicated on trying to find a search term, like how to tie a tie and then flood it with shitty Google ads and make like five cents off of this page every time somebody desperately clicks on it

because they have a wedding to go to. And like the reality is like, I don't think, like our entire internet is driven by the concept of exchange, like money exchange of commerce, that every piece of information is like, oh yeah, you should like, we should find somebody to extract money out of somebody somewhere for that information, you know, and that's true sometimes, but you know what the fucking local library definitely has a book about tying knots and tying ties and it's free. And like, it would be nice if like we just deviate. It would be nice if like we just deviate. It would be nice if we just deviate. It would be nice if we just deviate. I'm not even complaining about the capitalist part of it, although that is an issue that days what drives all of this.

But we have arranged our entire fucking internet and our entire way of finding things around commerce. Google's entire business is a commerce driven business. The reason they promote search results the way they promote them is to for them to make money and for them to get other people to make money so that they provide value to people so they can keep making money. Okay. And like, and like, I'm fine with the business. I'm fine with it. Okay. To, to an extent. But if we center our life, this is why

this is why Facebook and met the metaverse and their bullshit is so tainted. If we continue to, and I'm by the way, I'm like, I'm not saying we all have to become socialists. I'm not saying God, we need to talk about, we need to talk about the astral world stuff and satanic panic. I guess we're going to have to leave it for the next one because we've gone on way too long here, but we can maybe spend a few minutes on it. But like the reason, like, okay, sure, be upset about the capitalist part of it, but just to get one level deeper than that, forget about whether or not you're a capitalist or a socialist or whatever the fuck you wanna call yourself.

And think about like, is this the right way to arrange information for you and in your life? Is this the right way to connect things together? Is centering it on the exchange of goods or currency the correct way? And I'm not, again, I'm not making a judgment about capitalism or or something else. I'm saying when we think about what we want or what we need, does arranging it around this commerce-based system that serves interest that have nothing to do with the task at hand that you're asking for that you need. Would you really get down to it?

Don't you think we might come up with better ways of doing it if we if we didn't if we weren't locked into that. System now extend that to all of society and the fact that the profit motive is not eyeing your needs. Of course, but I want to scale. I'm able to meet you. Can we scale it up and down within reason? Okay, I hear you. Totally, I'm just saying it. I'm not gonna change.

If that idea has hit home for Tony, Tony, maybe consider if you haven't, I know there are a lot of Tony's that very much disagree with me politically, you love to tell me, that you like me, that you don't like I know there are a lot of Tonys that very much disagree with me politically, you love to tell me, that you like me, that you don't like my ideas. That's fine. I agree.

I'm gonna agree with them. I would love it if that's hit home for you. Maybe consider that Walmart has 500 kinds of peanuts and 14% of this country has food insecurity. Let's just consider that we don't need 90 brands of cereal. What about all the ugly, ugly carrots we throw out? Don't forget about that. Yeah. We literally have piles of food. They're just like it doesn't look good. It's fine.

You can eat it. It tastes exactly like a carrot. It may even taste better. We don't know because we're putting in the garbage. I lived on a thread because people, this is a little bit of tangent, but I don't care. You did a tangent. I'm doing what? On Reddit, there was a thread in some of the Disney subforms that are about how Disney kind of sucks right now. The people running the parks and the CEO of the company are literally all about cost-cutting and reducing value. The guy who runs the parks to Tom, I think his name is. He's done a really bad job.

He works with that guy Greg. They're doing, I think his name is, he's done a really bad job. He works with that guy Greg. They're doing, I think they're doing horrible. Covered up a lot of bad stuff. But in those forums, there was one of the headlines of the many horrible things, we're cutting parrides. There won't be no more first aid stuff like that. They were like, fucking Disney parr. They were like, they're cutting almost by half the portion

sizes at Disney restaurants. And honestly, the universal reaction was, that's probably good because we mostly throw our food out and it's like, that's so bad. It is so bad that like theme park guests are like, that seems a little wasteful. Speaking of theme park guests, let's talk about Astro World. Let's talk about Astro World actually. So Astro World, I mean, tragedy. I mean, so Astro World Travis Scott has this event.

I mean, I don't know how many they've done. Maybe they haven't done one in a couple of years because of COVID. I don't know the deal with that, but like, Travis Scott, massively famous successful artist has collaborations with Nike and all this shit has his own like streetwear brand like very very you know You know many many hands and many pies Very successful artist beloved by obviously millions and millions of people anyhow, so he does this

He does his festival astral world So Edgar was actually I want to go cover. Edgar Alvarez, who covers style, he runs the style section for us and he does a bunch of stuff, but that's his main focus. And he's like, I want to go cover this. There could be some interesting stuff there. You know, it could be a real spectacle. Obviously, there's a whole streetwear connection. I think they may have been showing off some new merch stuff

that they were doing there. And I'm like, yeah, do it. Let's go check it out. And there haven't been events like this in a while, and so it could be some interesting stuff there. Just like culturally just fun, interesting stories to talk about, whether it's about the streetwear or the music or whatever. And Travis Scott did the Fortnite show, right? Like he didn't do a, he did, like I think he did like an Astral World in Fortnite. I think which we covered unless I mistaken his event in Fortnite was called Astronomical. Okay, so it related. Anyhow, there's like, he's like, it's like, I would say, you know, there are some artists who seem very online, I'd say he's one of them, you know, and so we have all sorts of

levels of interest in this dude. Anyhow, so Edgar goes and he's at the show and I'm like He's like Instagramming some you know He's Instagramming some Images from it we threw some stuff on the input account like wow, this looks awesome This looks crazy. He's like, you know, this is crazy He's like it was really really crazy and then it's like with the story star kind of like you start hearing about he didn't now I don't think Edgar was anywhere near where this stuff was going on

Before you start hearing about, I don't think Edgar was anywhere near where this stuff was going on. But like these stories start coming out in the wee hours of the night. Like I was asleep. And then you know, woke up the next day and I'm like holy shit, eight people died at this show. And it was like utter chaos there. And Edgar wrote about it, you know, from his perspective, about some of the stuff he saw.

I don't think he saw the worst of it, you know. And still saw a ton of complete incompetence. So, yeah, so eight people died. And other people were injured. And, you know, if you read what I grew, it just sounds like this was out of control from the get go. And the more you hear from what was going on before the event during it, the more it's like, what were they thinking?

You know? They were thinking, let's not spend a lot of money and make a ton of money and we'll push the risk onto the crowd because that's how it works. Sorry, I'm gonna bring this back to capitalism. And people died, eight people died because there was literally no security. They were giving out drinks to minors.

There was no medical services. Nothing was set up, nothing was done well. Let alone the fact that 50,000 people body to body during a pandemic in Texas. Fucking nightmare, nightmare. And frankly Travis Scott is an asshole, his entire way of dealing with the fallout from this has been completely incompetent.

He gave people who attended a month with better help, one of the worst services for mental health care Available well, and then he went to pop in David Busters, right. Well, you have to imagine I mean listen You have to imagine that he personally didn't choose the therapy app or whatever But it is maybe he should have it's in his name and he's the guy running it and the guy me I agree I be he should have no I called up his friend Jeff Bezos in the woods and said hey buddy How do you run an organization? Because I just killed eight people.

I agree. He needed to be like, well, were they in a factory? Or were they delivering? Were they, was it on a delivery route for you? Because I can, they get in your way. There was a, did they ask to go to the bathroom and you had to take care of them or what? But like, you know, it's not, I'm sorry, I know what I mean,

not to make a light of it, but you know, it's like, the, the, but to me, what's so interesting and what I, in Edgar wrote about, we read about, we were also wrote a thing about the app, the situation with the app, which is, I'm sorry, but like, if people die, I'm pleased don't, please don't patronize, please do not patronize, please do not patronize people with like,

you should get some therapy. It's like, yeah, but can we actually address the real thing that's going on here, which is like this shouldn't have happened and people need to be held accountable? And why did it happen? What's really crazy is that like, you know, I don't fall Travis Scott.

I'm not, I'm a person I'm not a big, I'm not a fan like for whatever reason whatever reason is just like he has not been he's not seemed interesting to me on a musical level And ex producers is on tic-tac day out on everybody that his music was crappy, but that they basically Gamed the system to make him popular by cheating a whole bunch until he like to fake it to you make it stuff. Well, I mean, but more importantly, like if you go back, I mean, there's all this stuff about, you know, him sort of encouraging his fans like to pass out and get hurt and, you know, there's this whole, I mean, there's this, I mean, you know, and it's like, listen, I get it. It's like you want to be punk, like you want to be,

you know, it's like, it's very punk to be punk like you want to be you know, it's like it's very punk to be like Get fucked up, you know become you know get injured at the show. I mean, it was a very very common thing in like The punk from the punk world and the indie world. I mean all this there was a lot of factions around this But like not uncommon that there was a to see like people who were like yeah, I go to a show and I get fucked up Like I fucking you know, we where there's a fucking mosh pit, people elbow each other. It gets crazy. That's like, there isn't a level to that where if everybody's into it and it's like within a, you know, no one's dying or going to the hospital, it's like, you want to get out

some aggression, like, and listen to fucking, and rage to music. Like, I don't have a problem with the concept. There does seem like there's like a missing, and for whatever reason, there's like, when I was reading Edgar some, I've read a bunch of stories about this, the descriptions of how the crowd was reacting to the stuff around them, not that it's their fault,

but there is certainly, and it is to top down thing, there's a vibe that is projected there, just this whole, but he's cheering this stuff on historically, it's just like this, fucking, and know, and I don't, I don't want to be an old guy, but like, I don't know that you have to be young to be like, it's cool for people to die and be seriously hurt at a show. Like, I'm not sure that that's like, like, I don't know, I guess like maybe in, if like, if where we're at is like, you know, mass shootings are a daily occurrence in this country,

then like death is, we just don't care about it as much anymore. I don't think teenagers were fucking 20-somethings, anybody who's a complete idiot, with no frontal lobe. I don't blame them for wanting to go to a show and jump around and mosh and like fucking act like any of the shit matters, whatever, do whatever you gotta do. Just don't do it in your own house. But my problem is, if you're organizing this

and monetizing it, well then you've accepted the risk. Right, right. It is on you, you know what I mean? Like it is on you, it something goes wrong. And so you should be, it feel some level of responsibility if this is your profession or if you're monetizing it. I mean, there are warehouse parties that happen in Brooklyn that are illegal that get shut down all the time. And those people face real consequences when things go wrong. He, the fact that he seemingly

is completely insulated from facing any consequences for what is essentially an entire business made by sober adults to create the environment that could cause eight deaths. Little on anything else that happened at those shows. 50,000 people in the desert with no security and all of them are drunk. I have to imagine a lot of crimes happened. I think we, I agree, and I think, I mean, there was security, but they clearly were not where they needed to be. I mean, they weren't checking people's bags. You're in Texas.

But I think we also just have like, you know, I think there's like an empathy gap that's happening in the world right now and like we got a, you know, I'm saying like with him and his people like this whole like they're hit the whoever produced this or whoever's responsible for it. And I don't know how, you know, you know, listen, people die of concert. That's not, that happens. There have been, there have been a lot of deaths at these huge gatherings. Like there's lots of different reasons, right? People get, they get fucked up, they like do drugs, they shouldn't be doing or they get, you know,

they get exhausted and dehydrated or they, there have been crowdsurges where people get trampled or whatever. You know, there's a hundred. People think fucking ketamine at shows where it's like a mosh pit. I mean, like it had this shit, this shit does happen, but there's also, I mean, there's also gotta be,

there are ways to prevent it. I mean, there's no reason, and there's no reason anybody should have died at this show. There's no reason. And. Travis Scott has enough money to prevent eight people from dying. What I'm wondering, what I'm really wondering about it is, like, does this have a, what

I want to know in like this world is, does this have a lasting impact on his career or his reputation? Or, and this is what I'm sort of saying, like, I think he's done. I don't know. I mean, this is to me as like, I feel like we're in this post, we're in this like kinda post, consequence sort of world right now where,

you mean, cancel culture is not real? I don't know what I'm saying. I mean, that's what I'm saying is like. Anyway, I've got tickets to Chris Brown later. Oh my God. But you know, get Chris Brown. I guess his career did suffer somewhat, I mean, that's what I'm saying is like, anyway, I've got tickets to Chris Brown later. Oh my God, but you know, get Chris Brown, I guess his career did suffer somewhat, I mean, but not really, I mean, he's definitely,

not a bit, I mean, at any rate. So the, the so, I mean, the long and short of it is like, does anybody really hold him to account for this? Or even so, like, my guess is like, I see shit, I mean, it's like, it's like Kanye with the Trump stuff. And these are obviously weirdly intermingled, like given the whole Kardashian connection, without obviously it's with a K for the record.

The, the, but like, but it's like P, I see people, like I see, when I see people respond to like Kanye doing stuff, like when he's got like Marilyn Manson at his show, and he's talking about the devil, and Marilyn Manson's's naughty along and I see people who are like Kanye fans and it's like They're like I'm like do you does what would you have to do and this is sort of like the Trump stuff It's like what is it that you respond to like at what point do you go? Yeah, this person fucking sucks You know, what is it that you need to see someone do or hear someone say? Or are we so obsessed with this like cult of personality?

We're so infatuated with these, with the concept of celebrity now that, or just that, you know, whatever we are so dismissive, or we're so dismissive, but we're so dismissive of any behavior. We're so weirdly able to, there's so many people who can say like, it's fine. We're de-censitized. Yes, yes, that's it. And that's what I'm saying. There's something about this,

and again, I do, it's like, look, I'm not of this generation, of this youth generation. And I'm not trying to generation, of this youth generation. And I'm not trying to pass judgment or be like, oh, well, the goods these days are so fucked up. I don't think it's just kids. I think it's everybody. I think it's all age ranges.

I think it's like, it's like, and I'm not talking about, I mean, yes, basic human decency. But there's like the empathy chip has been removed somehow. I do think COVID exacerbated this because like, you just don't have to, you're literally not around people. We've talked about this before, but I do think COVID exacerbated this because like you just don't have to, you're literally not around people. We've talked about this before, but I do think it's like one of those things where in big cities where you're constantly forced to encounter people who are not like you, I do think even though people can be very harsh in New York, they are generally more understanding

and accepting of the differences of and generally in many ways more empathetic than like you find often in places where people don't interact with each other that much. Studies show that New Yorkers are the most likely to help others in a crisis than the most likely to give useful and useable advice. They're the most polite when you ask them to change behaviors in public. New Yorkers are used to dealing with other people. Are we short and fast? Totally, because we do this 100,000 times a day.

So many times a day, do I have to put up with other people's bullshit? So I very quickly, I'm like, excuse me, can you? No, yes, I gotta keep going. I'm sorry, I have somewhere to be. Yes, and that comes off as rude. But New Yorkers statistically studies have shown are the most likely to help someone who collapses on the street in front of them. A lot of other people feel like they're gonna mind

their own business and keep walking. And New Yorkers are not like that. And I do believe that it does come down to exposure. I believe that like, it's the reason why and I believe we went way too far with this the last few years, especially pre-trop where it's like representation in the media is the most important thing for all social causes.

That's like insanity. But I do believe that representation in the media does have a measurable effect on people's empathy and understanding of other people. And I think it is only a tiny sub slice of what you would get if people actually knew people different than them in real life. But they don't. And COVID of course is a perfect example of like, you know, if you live in a city that has a certain demographic

and you only operate in certain neighborhoods, and then you break that down even smaller to, well, I never have to leave my house and professional situations aren't gonna take me out of my bubble. Now, I'm just on a little circuit in my neighborhood to my grocery store, to my maybe church, maybe, and then I come back home and see my family. And then when I'm on the internet, the internet is algorithmically tailoring who and what

I see to either piss me off about other people or they're exactly like me. And that's it. And if that's your only experience of the world, of course polarization is getting worse. Of course you don't care when you hear about eight people died in a crowd of 50,000. Of course you don't give a shit. If you see someone collapse a crowd of 50,000. Of course you don't give a shit if you see someone collapse in front of you if they're supposed to be security and other people to handle it. But it's not my business. And it's it's it's I don't know. I don't think that human beings. I believe there is a way for human beings to operate on the internet and at a large scale and know many people. But it also it takes work and purposefully designing your life and accounting for,

accounting for the differences from what we are supposed to be doing, quote unquote, like evolutionarily, which is no maybe 120 people who are not that different than you and if there's anybody else who comes and you've got to contact with. Well, that's what we're designed to do. Well, but I mean, count for that. We have to be trying.

And I don't think we're trying. We rarely make the argument for Facebook, but of course, I mean Facebook didn't pull it off. But Facebook didn't pull it off. But Facebook didn't pull it off. It's actually opposite though, because right there, they value engagement. Not exposure, not diversity of content or thoughts.

It's like, and I feel like I read this somewhere, Not exposure, not diversity of content or thoughts. It's like, and I feel like I read this somewhere, it's like to see someone versus to actually know them are two very different things. And what Facebook does is lets you see people, but it doesn't let you know them. And what we can show people in that forum versus what things are face to face or in real-world situations are very dramatically different.

And there is all of this is some version of performance. And yeah, I do think like there is this kind of overarching sort of problem. Again, the system is built around this now. The system is built around these ideas. This goes back to my point and we get to wrap up because it's been going on for a very long time. But to circle back to all that, which is like I do think the systems are designed badly. We need to stop pretending like or thinking that these systems are working for anybody except thinking that these systems are working for anybody except the accountants at those companies

and all the people who profit off of it. And anyhow, so that's my upbeat message for the end of what I think was otherwise, they come absolutely batch at crazy podcast. And don't remember anything that we talked about, but I know it was a lot of different stuff. So should we do a quick night? Should we do a quick night?

Yeah, nice things, good things. What do we call them? Nice things? I can never remember. Yes, I got a weird like brain, like a blank spot in my brain. Coming up on 300 episodes, no idea what the segment is called. You know what, we all had done it for a 200 segment.

So, my nice thing this week is there is a show called Dragula which started very low budget similar to RuPaul's Drag Race started very low budget. And I had seen it, it instead of being like RuPaul's Drag Race is like Drag Queen Slipsink and they dance around and they got cute outfits. Great. My favorite show on television I watched every day. Dragula is a fear factor version of that with horror drag queens that are trying to freak you the fuck out with some terrifying themes and horror icons from the genre,

very obscure people as guests. And just they filmed these amazing segments to open and close the show that are basically short horror movies using the cast. It's so cool. And Dracula is basically a competition show. We are zombie involved. Only in themes and iconography. Okay, wow.

So it's goth. Goth. Extreme like goth. Goth drag is what you're saying. It's basically, I think the four tenets of it are fil, Horror, Glamour, and Drag. And it's, I mean, people eat bugs. It's very, people drink blood regularly. But it is a, it's basically fear factor,

plus RuPaul's Drag Race, mashed up with like a live stage show. It's so fucking good and weird. And I had seen the first season, but it was very low budget and on YouTube. And I just never really had the time with the million different things I watched, let alone the million drag shows I watch. And I finally ran out of stuff to watch.

And I was like, you know what? I hear so many good things about Dracula, and someone I'm friends with is directed a bunch of episodes. Let me go watch it. And I watched the second season, and it picks up a little bit. But by the third season, it's got a budget, and it's a real TV show, like in the sense of like there's production happening, and it was really good, and I was obsessed with some of the people from it. This fourth season, similar to RuPaul's Drag Race,

around the fourth season, they have a $100,000 prize, and suddenly it's like really pumping on all cylinders. They've got like really amazing production value, the music unbelievable, it's so beautiful, the costumes are so, the talent level, because they've got really amazing production value. The music, unbelievable. It's so beautiful. The costumes are so, the talent level. I, queer people, queer people, just the superior race.

Wow, that's not, that's not, I don't think that's, we don't endorse that message here on tomorrow. We believe everybody is great unless you're, you know, racist or whatever. But even if you don't like drag or like reality shows are not for you, I would say it's on, it's on Shutter and AMC Plus. We're only four episodes into this new season. You can just start with this season. If anybody watches it and wants to talk about it, I actually don't know that many people that watch the show. And I've basically just been tweeting about it into a void.

So please come onto my Twitter account and talk to me about it. Tony, Tony, get it going. Get your AMC plus subscription fired up, which I don't know. Is that even a thing you can subscribe to? I have no idea. I think. I'm gonna be really quick with mine, okay?

Okay. You ready? It's a good one. Record of Lotus War, deed lit in Wonder Labyrinth. What? Yes. What indeed?

What is record of Lotus War deed lit in Wonder Labyrinth you're asking? Well, I'll tell you what it is. It is a fucking platformer, side-scrolling, Castlevania style, platformer, which was released this year, which

I didn't know about until very recently, for PC and is coming December 16th on consoles, definitely on the, oh it's coming out on everything, including the Switch, which honestly I would have bought it for the Switch if it had been available immediately, but it is not. It is just a fucking awesome. If you like Castlevania games, it is just a super fucking cool, beautifully art-directed, really interesting, really fun to play, side-scrolling, action-adventure, and with RPG elements and all the stuff that Symphony of the Night has,

And with RPG elements and all the stuff that Symphony of the Night has. And great, just great character design. And it's based on record of Laos War, is it, I believe it's a manga that then became an anime series. And there's a ton of games. I mean, it's been like, it started in the 80s. So, it's like, I was vaguely aware of the series. I have no fucking idea who these characters are, or what any of it means. But the game is awesome.

And it's like 15 bucks for PC, at least that's what I paid for it. I think I bought it on, yeah, I bought it on a steam for like 15 dollars. And it's awesome. And it's great. And it's like a true, I mean, there are games that people are like, oh yeah, this is is like this is like a new Castlevania game

Like the the bloodstain like ritual of the night, you know people are like oh that's like from the Castlevania people and it's it is good in ways But it's not the same this feels materially a lot like if you love Symphony of the night You're gonna love this or if you love like Rondo of Blood or whatever. So I recommend this game. Again, I'll give you that name one more time. Record of Lodos War, Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth. And I think you should check it out. I think we should everybody should play it. And the name is very easy.

Just rolls off the tongue. But anyhow, it's a great game. And the graphics are awesome. And there's cool weapons. And it's super fun to play and I will be Playing it as soon as humanly possible as soon as we get show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been told that they are in the wonder labyrinth.

And they're not deedlet. you