Tomorrow - 246: Are we causing this?

Episode Date: January 29, 2022

On this week's Tomorrow, Josh and Ryan attack Joe Rogan before fully becoming Joe Rogan. They also discuss the Analogue Pocket, r/antiwork, and the Euphoria teens. You don't even need to put down your... copy of Pokémon Legends: Arceus to listen up! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Josh Wittipolsky. Today in the podcast we discuss DT, SB, and MM, and M&Ms. I don't want to waste one minute. Let's get right into it. Alright Ryan, we're back. Look at us. We didn't do a podcast last week because of, I'm gonna say, mental illness, that's all problems. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna blame Long COVID. Is that, can I do that?
Starting point is 00:00:58 I feel like I had COVID. I don't know if I have any Long COVID symptoms, but, you know, I don't know that I don't have any Long COVID symptoms. I think, can I just use it? have any long COVID symptoms, but you know, I don't know that I don't have any long COVID symptoms. I think can I just use it? The whole world is running on fumes at the moment. Use whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Okay, good. That's what I want to hear. That's what I'm looking for. Lot going on in the world. None of it is good. None. I mean, everything is bad And I'm not happy about most of it, you know, but also I mean we're just like it just is
Starting point is 00:01:38 I don't know I Want to be I want to tell you I want to bring good news to the listener to Tony You don't want to tell Tony that this thing's to look forward to, you know, like the new, I don't know, it's iPhone or something. What do we used to talk about? Regular things, normal things. There's a Pokemon. We'll be like, coming out tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Be like that game. Yes, I know. I have pre-ordered it for Zelda because her birthday's coming up and You know she loves Pokemon and Yeah, I mean she got to play it. It's it's great. It's fantastic. You've played it. You've already played it? Indeed. It's fantastic. Oh, you, you. She was like, we started looking for, she was like, can we watch a video of,
Starting point is 00:02:28 it's called like Pokemon Legends Archius, right? Is that what it's called? She was like, can we watch some videos of it? And I was like, yeah. And then I was like, wait a second, like people are like, like have videos like they have the game. This was like, days ago, like a week ago. And I guess like it had leaked somehow or something.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And, and yeah, she was very upset. I was like, I don't know how these people have it. She's like, can we get it? I was like, I don't think so. I don't have a way to get it for you right now. I actually was like getting a surprise for her birthday, but then she sort of forced my hand because once she saw the video, she was like, I got to play it right now. And I was like, well, it's, it's not here.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And you can't. And then I had to give her a little like carrot, you know, a little bit of hope, a ray of light to be like, well, but it is, it is going to be here before your birthday. So anyhow, it's supposedly arriving tomorrow and she's been talking about it all week and we're all very excited about it here. It's good. I hope that you're just like, they build a good base to make.
Starting point is 00:03:21 The next game will be like 10 out of 10 amazing. This game's really good. You know, there's still things that need polishing and stuff, but it comes down to the Pokemon business model that it does the actual ideas behind the game, which are great. Well, she's been playing Pokemon Snap, which she really likes a lot, which doesn't seem like a game I would enjoy personally, but she seems to really enjoy it. And then the other day, we started playing Breath of the Wild a little bit, but Breath of the Wild is very, I mean, it has fights and stuff, but she's not.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I mean, the enemies are sort of scary in Breath of the Wild in a way. They're not like friends that you're making with magical balls. Yeah. So I think I feel like this new Pokemon game is like a little bit like a little splash of Breath of the Wild in a Pokemon sort of.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah, there's a little, you can tell, I mean, Breath of the Wild when it hit, splashed onto everything. But I think, got everything wet. They took basically the Pokemon that they like making and then dipped it in Breath of the Wild and then whatever wasn't working, they like went back and redid a little. And it's interesting and you can definitely tell the
Starting point is 00:04:28 influence especially visually even though it's a lot uglier than Breath of the Wild. But I think a lot of the ideas from Breath of the Wild carried over into lots of franchises, like Super Mario, Bowser's Fury, which was like a mini game included. Super Mario Bros. U, I believe, when that was put on the Switch. And I think multiple, especially in Nintendo games, what multiple game franchises have been impacted by Breath of the Wild, and then those impacts have sort of come into this Pokemon game. So it, you definitely can tell, but if anything,
Starting point is 00:05:06 as weird as it is, Genshin Impact is like a Pokemon clone, or Genshin Impact is like a Breath of the Wild clone. Pokemon reminds me a little bit more of Genshin Impact than it does a Breath of the Wild because it's a little like how interesting. Lucer and yeah. Breath of the Wild very much, like it's like, go wherever you want, do whatever you want,
Starting point is 00:05:24 but there are specific set pieces built for you to go enjoy. Right. Genshin impact and Pokemon both feel like they didn't have enough time to do specific set pieces. So it's a little bit more procedurally generated and like a little bit more barren than you would imagine. There's like less of that magic feeling. But it is a format that works amazingly well that's way overdue. I'm gonna write a piece whenever I have time at some point probably next week that's like, this Pokemon game is like the best GameCube game ever, but don't expect anything more
Starting point is 00:06:00 than like a level of 2005 innovation, because it's clearly not finished, or they didn't get the chance, building all these systems, they didn't get the chance to do all the things that they, I think that it lends itself to, some really big, good stuff that they could do later. But they're on this release schedule, they release a remake every year,
Starting point is 00:06:19 and then an original game, every other year, and then an original game on those, every other year, off years. Yeah. And they clearly needed to get this game out. However, it's such a better direction. I mean, I don't know what's happening at Game Freak,
Starting point is 00:06:32 but they have entered the Y2K era and thank God they have. Yeah, I feel like a lot of their games, I mean, we got whatever the last release was, brilliant diamond and shining pearl or whatever. And I recognize, we've talked about this before, but I recognize that these games are just like essentially like remixes of, you know, or rebooting things. It's a DS game. I mean, you can tell. We're pre-existing. And they are, I do think Zelda kind of was like, well, this is a lot like that, like let's go Pikachu, you know? Like it's, it's a lot of the same sort of concept, you know, and I think this is different.
Starting point is 00:07:06 This will make her feel like she's playing like she won't, I don't know. I think this is, this will capture the feeling when she's playing it that I had when I played the original Pokemon. And in the same, same respect, the original Pokemon's kind of barren. And then when you get to either the remakes or the silver and gold, they clearly could expand on all the things that they really wanted to do. Right. And that feels similar.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I don't know, I really like it. I think of distractions you can have from the fact that the world's imploding in on itself at spectacular speed. It's a good one. Go for it. It's worth the money. I think I'm excited to see her get into it. I don't know. I think it
Starting point is 00:07:47 seems like it'll be less. Breath of the Wild seems extremely complex in a lot of ways. I mean, I actually started playing it again because I, you know, she got interested in it and then I was like, oh, I should like pick it back up. And I literally, I'm so like, I've spent so little time in the game. I think I just got to the first real like plot point of the game. And I'm so, like, I've spent so little time in the game. I think I just got to the first real, like, plot point of the game. And, uh, and I'm like, oh, this is cool. Like I should be playing this, like this game is good. Uh, but, uh, but I think it's, it's a little bit, it's a little bit overwhelming for her, uh, and so we'll see.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But anyhow, so that's the excitement, you know, uh, there's a new Pokemon game. And that is a normal thing to talk about, I guess, you know, which is nice in like the shadow of all of the other completely insane things that are going on. And I'm just going to, I'm just going to mention a few of the things that are happening right now. Just just casually mention a few things. Okay. And then when you're done with that, I have a question for you about them, but you list
Starting point is 00:08:42 us. Okay, great. Great. They're banning books in schools. They're banning books about the Holocaust in American schools because they have the word damn in them. That's a thing. Oh, and also LGBTQ people being mentioned at all. That is a book. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:59 So if you have a book mouse or a book about how Emily has two mammies, you present. No. Yeah, go straight to prison. Evangeline Lillie, the beloved actress who plays the Wasp and the Ant-Man movies and was on the great in the great TV series Lost, is an anti-vaxxer who was at a rally just saying all kinds of dumb nonsense. You know, just another disappointment from the celebrity set. You know, the one of the liberal Supreme Court justices is retiring. And it's not entirely clear that Biden has the authority to put a new Supreme Court justice onto the bench, which is unusual.
Starting point is 00:09:49 We're gonna have a full bench of conservative whack. I mean, it's like fucking handmaid's tail shit. And I hate when people look at the handmaid's tail, but I'm sorry, but that is what they want. It is what they want. Like, you know, I don't know the oath keepers were, you know, I just saw a video today about these oath keepers. There's like six oath keepers who have been,
Starting point is 00:10:11 these are like white supremacists who are, were Roger Stone's bodyguards, Roger Stone who's like a close personal friend and advisor to Trump. You know, there's like a video of them talking about how to do a head shot on Antifa people, which is like, I have to say, I'm not, it takes a lot for me to be kind of like surprised at this point about like the level of fucking insanity and sickness in the, in the, in the, the Republican and right wing part of the country.
Starting point is 00:10:42 But I gotta say like watching a regular Americans, like American people, like people who are like, yeah, okay, like they, I interact with guys like this all the time, not like Oathkeepers, but I mean, they just look like regular people for the most part, talking about shooting other- That's talking about Nazis. They like talking about shooting the other-
Starting point is 00:11:01 They don't talk to the end. Right, just talking about shooting other Americans, like in the talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other.
Starting point is 00:11:11 They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other.
Starting point is 00:11:19 They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. They don't talk about shooting the other. This is wrong, like we need to do something about this. Yet, it feels like we're in this constant slow motion collapse. Maybe it's not even in slow motion anymore. We might be going at regular speed at this point.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And I don't know what else is going on. The market is crashing, and yet cryptocurrency and NFTs continue to be supposedly billions and billions of dollars. You know, and I just feel like we are, and obviously, you know, 4,000 people a day are dying in America from COVID, from the mild variant that we've all heard about, which if you're vaccinated is actually very mild for the most part.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I literally looked at the numbers the other day I tweeted about it, but it's like if you have not been vaccinated, you are 20 times more likely to die from COVID right now than if you're vaccinated. And like, I don't even know what to say about that. Like, I mean, in, in, in, if you look at the, if you look at the landscape of the, the Evangelion lilies of the world talking about, you know, being pro-choice, I mean, it's such a, they're such just absolute mental illness on within the right wing like train of thought. It's like your pro-life for babies, your pro-choice for adults, your not pro life for anybody past the age of birth, you're like, yes to the death penalty, yes to war, yes to fucking kill
Starting point is 00:12:53 shots to auntie fa. But they're not operating in good faith. None of these opinions are real. They're just reactions that they need to have to do whatever the fuck they want, which is they hate Jews. They hate poor people, they like feeling smug, so they hate smart people, and then everything is just gonna be a reaction
Starting point is 00:13:12 to whatever inconveniences those people. And it's, I mean, I don't even think it's about owning the lips at this point. It's about like self-preservation of their fragile egos, and I don't say that in a like, smooth way. I think that that's seriously what's going on. Like what are they even mad about now? Like what is it exactly?
Starting point is 00:13:29 I don't even know what we're doing. They're mad that we think that they're dumbasses because for four years they acted like dumbasses and the results of all their choices have been proof positive that it was a dumbass choice and it was a lot of dumbassery. And they are so mad that we know that their dumbasses that they will never admit their dumbasses,
Starting point is 00:13:47 which necessitates a lot more dumbass behavior. And now that sounds like that. That's where we're at at this point. And I feel it when I talk to our conservatives who are like, now that Trump's sort of out of the new cycle and out of their system, and I don't just mean family members, I mean like people that I'm not related to,
Starting point is 00:14:03 but I have tried to engage in conversations just to see where things are at. And they have Trump out of their system in a way, but they're kind of like dry drugs, where they're not drinking anymore, that's good. But all of the behaviors to drove them to drinking are still happening, all the emotional problems are still happening, the world view is the same,
Starting point is 00:14:23 they have all the same relationships, and they are desperate, absolutely desperate to get their hands on something. That will take the edge off. And that is Ron DeSantis, that is Marjorie Taylor Greene, all these people, they nonsense people, they don't even really care about. They're just trying to find a methadone
Starting point is 00:14:40 because somebody took away their fix. And like, yeah, it's, it's, it's, um, so they can say they don't care about Trump. They can say they believe in vaccines now. And that's all great. Oh, I don't think, I don't think, who's saying that? No, no, no, there are conservatives who are pivoting to saying like, you know, well, I'm vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I'm just for choice for other people or people who have pivoting to say like, you know, Trump was kind of an asshole. I liked a lot of his economic ideas, but obviously he was an asshole. I didn't do a great job. You know who would. Well, there aren't they, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah, who would actually? Who are they saying? I mean, it's the pictures. The pictures. The pictures. Whoever the biggest Republican asshole is at Lee Zeldin because you're from Long Island, is it Ron DeSantis because you're from Florida?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Is it Marjorie Taylor Green? Like, pick whoever in your state is the complete cartoon show dumbass that nobody else outside of your state is the complete cartoon show dumbass that nobody else outside of your stake and respect. Even Joe Manchin, and they'll cling onto that person and have plausible deniability for their person because they need it so bad. They need someone to tell them that their dumbass bullshit
Starting point is 00:15:38 is fine and valid and they're actually really cool and that everyone who hates them is an idiot. They're surviving, they're American exceptional idiot. They are dev- like, it is, they're surviving. They're American exceptionalism. They're feelings of superiority. They're like white supremacy. All of it depends on having someone give them permission that it's actually a good person thing to do, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It's really, it's really, yes, it does. And I have to say, it's really, you know, something I've been thinking about a lot lately is like for casually cruel stupid people, it really is like, you know, springtime. It's springtime for, if you're casually cruel and stupid. For Hitler and stupid. It's springtime. It really is springtime for Hitler. It's like the, it's like the, it's like the dickhead Olympics right now in the world.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And I think about this on just so many levels, I was just talking to somebody about NFTs. And I was like, the most offensive thing to me, the worst thing about NFTs is that they have just created so much bad art. Just literally, and I mean, let's just take all the financial stuff out of it. Let's just take all the, whatever, you can talk about cryptocurrency being bad for the planet and you can talk about NFTs not being, you can't really own one and, sure, whatever, and they're all scams and they're people are taking off of other people's money and totally got it, and they're racist and they're sexist, and they're all run by Gary Vee or whatever, all valid, all valid and all true.
Starting point is 00:17:09 But the biggest offense is that they have created a just we are a wash in bad art. And I mean literally like just sub-park garbage that we have to look at now. I mean, people are just pumping, there are essentially five or swap shops just pumping out the worst art that even these artists don't like. Just like these dumb heads, like these fucking,
Starting point is 00:17:32 and it's like, you know, it's like a real pog situation out there. I mean, do you remember pog? 90 nox offs of the fucking, I mean, at least with pogs, the knockoffs looked like the other pogs, and there was ostensibly some kind of game you could play. This is knocking off a product that doesn't exist, that has no purpose, and is incredibly ugly like a Pog.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I mean, I'm saying, it's like, it's like, as a... These tremendous turtles. There's just a series of turtles. There's a person who loves to look at beautiful things is not a great time in the world Okay, that's all I'm saying at any rate at any rate
Starting point is 00:18:12 So yeah, just and then you've got Joe Rogan out here my man Joe Rogan First off, I mean first off. Sorry. I don't want to be rude to Neil Young But the other and I and I and I like Neil Young a lot. I think he's written some great songs. I think he is one of the greatest singer-songwriters of the last hundred years. But he is Canadian, just to be clear. I don't want to try to have him claim be like an American. He is a Canadian person by birth, I believe. At any rate, Neil Young was like, I go, be like an American. He is a Canadian person. My birth, I believe.
Starting point is 00:18:45 At any rate, Neil Young was like, I, like, go, of course Joe Rogan's doing his podcast on Spotify, which now owns it. And it's like, you know, he's like, you know, like the vaccines are actually they're killing more people than COVID or, you know, shit like that, whatever, whatever like the dumbest worst idea you can think of,
Starting point is 00:19:01 like he says it all the time. And you know, obviously he's spreading an enormous amount of misinformation to his millions and millions of listeners. So Neil Young, like a cool dude, is like, this is bullshit, Spotify, you need to police this, this is bad, so he's just spreading misinformation on your platform, you're paying him to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And Neil Young, who's very old, and God bless him, just an old guy with like values. He's a person and God bless him, you know, just an old guy with like, you know, got like values. You know, he's a real person with clearly has like, like, I care about this thing and I'm going to put my foot down. He's like, you know, I either take, get rid of Joe Rogan's misinformation or or I'm gonna pull my music. Spotify was like, well, okay, here's your music back, sir. Like, you know, without even blinking, Spotify's like, we're not gonna pull Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan is how we make all the body. Your fucking old music is not anyhow, so a very sad situation for Neil Young, although I've just seen that Spotify's stock is tanking in after hours trading, which I love to
Starting point is 00:19:57 see. And but then, but actually like the thing about Joe, sorry, go ahead, you're answering. I was gonna say, however, interesting to note, Union Buster, Adele Adkins, the famous singer who apparently, the union, the Adele, the Adele hates unions. She's like, don't even think about joining a union. I can't believe I have to pay minimum wage for someone to play the bloody viola. Is that, oh, is this why, is this why she couldn't put on her show because there was a union issue?
Starting point is 00:20:26 No, she didn't put on her show because she is stage fright and so she comes up with reasons to cancel shows all the time. I don't even think about putting me on stage. Her complaint was like, the set isn't cool enough but they had hired non-union workers and musicians. So because the work wasn't up to par because these were non-union people, she canceled the show and all of the people
Starting point is 00:20:46 She hired are now screwed out of what was guaranteed to be at least a year of lucrative work With no recourse at all. Just if they moved there if they if they planned their lives around this because you know It's a it's a residency, right? Like if you work for Britney Spears you have live in one city and you get to go to your nine to five and work on a tour That's a dream job and you'd reappeared your entire to five and work on a tour. That's a dream job. And you'd re-upload your entire life. It's a delit. It's not like she's not gonna sell out.
Starting point is 00:21:10 People did all of that. And now they have no recourse in their entire lives. And she doesn't give a shit, obviously. But what bothers me is that she and Taylor Swift pulled all their music from streaming services in order to secure themselves a better deal with a better cut of the revenue. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Haven't done anything, even speaking out about Joe Rogan, haven't pulled their music, haven't threatened, haven't, unless they've called Spotify on the back end and we haven't heard about it, either of the give a shit. So what for Neil Young for giving a show, Rogan? No, I say good, no, to Hazah, to well, apparently he's apparently a lot of his fans are rallying now. And a lot of his fans are rallying now. And a lot of class, you know, the community among the complete dumbest is who think that there'll be billionaire
Starting point is 00:21:50 podcasters one day. I mean, listen, listen, you know, we may be you never know when you're going to become a billionaire podcaster. All you have to do is have the worst opinions and say them like the most confidence. I mean, it is, it is a, it is a true, it is a reality of podcasting. If you have the worst opinions and say them with extreme confidence, people will like line up
Starting point is 00:22:12 to give you money. You know the Romans invented the back scenes. It's why their end-of-year fell. It's so good. Well, this one I was gonna say, I was gonna say, no exactly, what I was gonna say is like, the other thing that Joe Rogan's got going on, is that he had Jordan Peterson on who's against his out of his coma now
Starting point is 00:22:30 I guess he came out of the coma Jordan Peterson who was also Canadian I want a state and like we need to keep an eye on these Canadians no matter what they're doing Jordan Peterson comes on and and they like there's a clip going around yesterday and Peter's, it comes on and they like, there's a clip going around yesterday. And okay, so it's a very racist conversation. Okay. It's like, I mean, it's textbook racist conversation. It's like, black people, even black, how dare they?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Well, this is what I want to talk about because They're so okay. Yes, I don't obviously don't listen to Joe Rogan and I certainly don't have never on purpose I've tried to avoid anything Jordan Peters and does or says because he's a complete fucking idiot Though I've obviously exposed myself to enough of it to know that because that's what I do. I get informed. So they're talking about all manner of dumb shit, just like, like, just stuff that, and when I say dumb, I mean, I mean, when I say dumb, I mean, legitimately like unintelligent. I don't mean, I don't mean uninformed,
Starting point is 00:23:41 I don't mean ignorant. I mean, just some truly truly like low IQ kind of shit that like people with brains that aren't really very Good at functioning would talk about like for instance Jordan Peterson went on some like rant about how You can't Talk about climate change because the climate is inclusive of of quote unquote everything and they can't measure everything. It's like, I'm at the end.
Starting point is 00:24:10 No, it's stuff like galaxy brain stupidity. But then, so they're talking about a climate implies that you must climb and I've never seen an athletic scientist. Right, yes. No, it's like that. It's like when Trump was talking about like a climate change and, you know, he, no, it's like that. It's like when Trump was talking about a climate change and he's like, oh, it's getting warmer, but it's freezing in New York right now.
Starting point is 00:24:30 It's like, yeah, okay, it's definitely just whatever's happening right now is the climate. You've got it. No, but anyway, today at your house, that's what's going on with all the global climate. You're like the entire planet can be summed up by whatever temperature you set your thermostat to. You got it.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You've done it. But it was freezing in this room. So they wanted to talk about this warming planet. Okay, but anyhow, my shower gets real cold. He's like, how do I run out of hot water? Okay, anyhow. So yeah, he loves the guy's fucking crazy about showers, but okay, but hold on, getting back to Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Jordan Peterson, my two favorite buddies. Then they started talking about Michael Eric Dyson and Jordan Peterson's like, well, you know, he's not even black. You know, I don't get that. They're called black, but he's more like brown. It's like, I mean, I just got to tell you, just like, let me stop you. This is some of the dumbest utterances
Starting point is 00:25:30 that have ever come out of a mouth. Like, take a, just let's like, okay, it's racist what they're talking about, what they're saying, how they're saying it, the ideas they have, they're just purely racist shit, right? Like, that the degrees of color of your skin determine whether we call somebody black or not. Purely racist shit, right? Like that the degrees of color of your skin determine whether we call somebody black or not,
Starting point is 00:25:47 as if the word black doesn't contain contextually, when speaking to a person you say they're black, doesn't have a contextual meaning that goes beyond literally the pigment, the tone of their skin, right? You understand? So, but that's the conversation they're having. He's like, you know, it's so weird, it's not even, it? You understand. So, so, but they're like, that's the conversation they're having. He's like, you know, it's so weird of it. It's not even, it's basically, charm. I mean, that's like literally, I'm okay. I may be, is that me, those exact words.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I'm paraclosing, but it is not very fucking close. And Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan's like, yeah, I mean, unless you're like, a guy wearing like, oh, just no clothes in the jungle, I mean, just crazy racist shit like that. Okay. And you're like totally black. Like this is the actual conversation. And it was covered in Vanta black. The tech. No, create a darkest of black. Actually, you know, they you know, actually when they say black It's you know because there's now a paint that use actually the black is black and you can't really go You know what? That's not orange. Because orange is taste like citrus and this paint just tastes like chemicals. But I am, but I, again, the confidence with which they have this conversation is so,
Starting point is 00:26:54 so breath taking. So I'm just saying for a second, I'm not saying to ignore the racism which is blatant, but I'm saying just for one second, put it, just go, okay, just acknowledge that the, within this conversation that you've got two races, talking to each other. Now, there are races, I've heard races speak, and they at least, like, the level of their racism is like, they're trying to ratchet it up a notch.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Like, maybe they have some facts that you haven't heard, or they've got some like statistics, or they've got, you know, these guys are just literally like, just really can't call yourself black if you're actually brown. Like that's the fucking conversation they're having. It is so dumb. I did raise, if I get a tan,
Starting point is 00:27:34 am I Puerto Rican? That's like, no, I mean it's like, it is, literally it's like, it's like, literally says I'm not white, I'm Italian. What? Yeah, okay. Well, I mean, you know, the Italians, they've struggled, they've been persecuted.
Starting point is 00:27:47 You're white, you are white. You, we are not living in fucking 30 years. No, the point is, the point is, the point is, yes. But okay, the conversation they're having is just so, and I just, I want to stress this that we can move on from this. Just what is most unbelievable is how fucking stupid it is. And I don't mean because they're racist.
Starting point is 00:28:08 They are racist, but what's incredible is how literally dumb the things they're saying are, like, just be a better racist. At least put up some fight. I mean, even elementary school kids would have a more sophisticated conversation. I mean, it is equivalent to maybe what two very young children who don't understand what the word black means might say, like, well, why do we call a person black if they're actually brown, which is an innocent question that kids do ask, stuff like that all the time? And there are obviously answers. And once you
Starting point is 00:28:44 have those answers, you no longer are confused about why there's a question that kids do ask, stuff like that all the time. And there are obviously answers, and once you have those answers, you no longer are confused about why there's a spectrum of skin tone, but anyhow, anyhow, I can't fucking believe that millions of people listen to this guy. He's so insanely stupid. And I mean this in the truest sense, like I'm not making a call about his politics
Starting point is 00:29:01 or his racism or his political position, whatever his positioning is on like, you know, Vax or anti-vaxx, whatever, I'm just saying like, he just, he sounds when he speaks like a very stupid person who has trouble grappling with complicated ideas or even remotely in a small way somewhat complex ideas. I don't mean like the most, Like I don't expect him to understand how the large Hadron Collider functions, but like it would be good if he just had a basic understanding of like when you say black what it means
Starting point is 00:29:34 because like almost anybody even a couple of brain cells can figure it. Like they definitely listening to him talk, even though that these are obvious fat. I mean, I know people who are more intelligent than that. I think all of that conversation, who do listen to Joe Rogan, it's like why? I wanna know what you get for me.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I think there's some really satisfying, I think there's something really satisfying about hearing. You know, I've had arguments with people where I will argue, I will allow myself to go into an argument. Like in bad faith, there's not exactly the term because it's like, there's sometimes you get caught in a moment where it feels good to say the thing that you know that another person will be annoyed by
Starting point is 00:30:13 or that like, you know isn't right, but like, you kind of want to say it anyway. I don't mean like racist stuff. And I mean, of course he is saying that. I think it's really, like, it feels really good for people to listen to him say things that sort of are like, yeah think it's really, like, it feels really good for people to listen to him, say things that sort of are like, yeah, he's like countering what everybody thinks,
Starting point is 00:30:32 like, I want to be an independent free thinker and it makes me feel good to hear that my independent, free think and ideas are agreed, that another person agrees with me and that person's like, got a lot of people who like him. And it's like, I do think it's as simple as like, you like to feel like you're special and you go through life a lot of the time feeling not special. And so when you listen to a guy like Joe Rogan who reinforces this idea that you have special
Starting point is 00:30:59 ideas that are different from the status quo because you actually are a basic ass mother fucker with no original ideas. It feels really good and like heartening and you're like, yes, like this is, you know, this is really like, you know, I'm being, it's like, you know, it's like a being given a hug, like a hate hug, you know, it's like being given a, I like a low IQ hug, you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:22 thank you for appreciating my. You know, it's like, you don't have a, you don't have good ideas. You don't care about other people. You wanna believe that you're somehow removed from the rest of society and that everybody else is living a line. You've got the secret knowledge that can unlock, that you know, open the door to freedom or whatever,
Starting point is 00:31:45 and Joe Rogan is like, that's right, man. They're telling you to take the vaccine, but you know, bro, the vaccine's got poison in it. It's shit like that. And it feels good to hear it, because it reinforces bad ideas, and frankly, a lot of people have bad ideas. I don't know, I'm not a psychologist,
Starting point is 00:32:01 but I can tell you that it's good to be wrong, okay? It's good to hear and understand that you're wrong and it's good to like learn things. And I think if everybody was like a little bit more comfortable with understanding that they're not going to be right all the time and that they make mistakes and that they can be wrong and that they wanted to engage in actual learning versus like reinforcing their own fucked up beliefs. The world would be a better place, but we don't live in that kind of world. We live in a world where I don't know where Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson can discuss like the, um, the tone, the specific tone of a person's skin and then like
Starting point is 00:32:38 talk about how that means they're not black, which is like, it would be, it's offensive, but it's almost like, in would be, it's offensive, but it's almost like, in some way it's less offensive because what they're saying is so stupid, you almost feel bad for them. Like, why are you so dumb? Like, how is it possible your brain has such trouble processing information like this?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Anyhow, so it's a nasty bad world out there with a lot of horrible shit going on. You know, which is why I'm thinking about getting addicted to heroin, just, you know. And why am I as well? Ride the snake to the lake, as they say. As Jim Morrison once said in a song, I don't think he was talking about heroin.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And frankly, I'm not sure what he was talking about, but I wouldn't mind riding that snake, you know. I've been watching a lot of euphoria recently. We're getting into the water. Oh, so I saw some clips of euphoria, and it looks very stressful. It, I am so stressed out. I've said it so many times in the last few days.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I am so stressed out about these euphoria teens. I'm so worried about that. I don't like it. No, I know. I saw a scene in a bathroom and I was like, this poor girl, this is making me feel very bad. It's too, I don't know if this is what's going on with teens. So honestly, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And I hope it isn't for most teens. But I wanted to call my little brother and be like, you know, do you do fentanyl? And if you do do fentanyl, please tell me you're not licking it off of a, you know, drug lord. You know, I got dagger. I gotta say they call the show Euphoria, but I think it's a misleading title. I don't, I haven't felt that way. From what I've seen of it, nobody on the show seems like they're feeling very euphoric and I certainly don't feel that way when I watch it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I did watch the first season, I have not started the second season, I have seen a lot of people talking about it. And, you know, my feeling is sort of like, I don't know, I don't, I don't know so much I can take, you know, in this life. You know, how can I go from, how can I go take, you know, in this life. You know, how can I go from,
Starting point is 00:34:47 how can I go from listening to Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson to seeing Evangeline Lilly's hurtful, hateful, wrong-headed comments about vaccinations, to reading about, you know, any literally anything Kanye West does. And then how can I go and watch Euphoria? Does that seem like a good idea? Although I do watch Silence of the Lambs last night,
Starting point is 00:35:11 which maybe in some way was, I don't know, relaxing by comparison to what's going on in the world, you know? Should bring a person. I guess that movie is fucking amazing. Insane, so good, just weird, so good. So it's so weird. You know, like, it's really a bizarre film.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Like I can't, I mean, when you watch, also by the way, side note, I know this is not what we were talking about, but the movie, so directed by Jonathan Demi, the movie he directed before, sounds like the lambs was married to the mob, which is, in my memory, is kind of like a comedy, very odd transition for him. He's like, I made this funny movie about a woman
Starting point is 00:36:02 who was married to a mobster, and was trying to get out of the, get away from him, which is like, I think this funny movie about a woman who's married to a mobster. I was trying to get out of the Get out get away from him, which is like I think a kind of an action comedy And then he's like and now this I'm gonna do this one with your fuck reaches Yeah, which has like some of the mo it is some of the most disturbing Sequences and it's like not just one. It's like a lot of them and I don't mean like yes, there's some graphic ones, but Honestly, it's much more about like a kind of them and I don't mean like, yes, there's some graphic ones, but honestly, it's much more about like a kind of mental, sort of, you know, like a dread than it is about if kind of like being presented with something really
Starting point is 00:36:33 gory. Anyhow, whatever, I don't know how I'm gonna get them because we're talking about Euphoria. Why is Chloe Kardashian trending? Do you know why? She has scary hands in a picture. What does that mean? Her hands look scary in one of the pictures?
Starting point is 00:36:46 What do you mean scary like like like like Buffalo bills? Oh my god. You're right. Holy shit What the fuck oh my god. What is going on with that hand? I don't know. Oh my god Photoshop make up I assume lots of supplements of some kind. I don't know. It's weird Create this skin color I assume lots of supplements of some kind. I don't know. It's weird. It creates this skin color. I tweeted this thing the other day was like, why do we call it Kardashian white if she's gray?
Starting point is 00:37:12 These hands are crazy. These hands are crazy. These hands are fucking crazy. I gotta say, no disrespect meant to our, it's my queen, Chloe Kardashian, but yes, it is queen with a K obviously. But it is insane. But I tweeted this the other day, I guess like I have, you know, screenshots or something
Starting point is 00:37:31 and they, one of them has Kim Kardashian and then I think the other one, there's another screenshot which is like one of her sisters, I believe it's not Kendall, it's Kylie one. Courtney, Kim? No, no. Kendall, Kylie, Courtney, Kim, Chloe. It's Kylie, the sister of Kendall? Yes. Yes, I think it's Kylie. And it's like, is this the same person? And obviously they're sibling, so I get it.
Starting point is 00:37:58 But also, I think it's that that because they've had the same work done. And like, I think that Google's legitimately confused and But now I look at all of them and I'm like again, by the way, I think you should do it makes you happy. I'm not judging It is odd to me though. It is weird to me It would I think it would for me it would be odd if my brother and I were like let's get the same face You know like it is weird to move as a pack Yeah, I don't know get a same face. You know, it is weird to move as a pack. Yeah, I don't know, get a different face.
Starting point is 00:38:27 It would be weird if I went to your brother's house and it was exactly like your house. Oh my God, it would be weird. It would be weird, but not bad, I don't think. But definitely weird, it would mean something. Yeah, definitely, anyhow. But so yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff going on in the world and I'm trying to just keep,
Starting point is 00:38:48 just trying to keep it together, you know. I'm trying to look for the helpers, you know. But there aren't any. Logging on, touch. Arthlash, anti-work. Is that a thing? Oh, have you not heard of it? Check it.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Check it. Check it. Look at that. You know, it's nice as wordle. I like wordle. Although wordle kind of sucks, actually. I mean, it's very common. Sometimes you're like, this is horrible. You know, have you not heard about the R antiwork saga? No, what is it? What tell me about it? Okay. So this is my favorite story of the day. So there's this subreddit called r-slash-antework that has been like slowly building over the last year a real following and dedicated user base of basically it's just labor solidarity and people feeling out to like early steps of forming a union or you know like labor activism
Starting point is 00:39:43 and basically like people are posting their horrifying work stories or scary text messages, their boss center, stuff that's clearly legal or clearly a scam being run to a hiring scam. It's just a place where the working class is realizing, hey, wait a minute, we have a lot in common with each other. But originally it was a subreddit that was anti-work, like anti-ever having to work, like abolish work altogether, which is a great philosophical conversation that doesn't seem likely soon.
Starting point is 00:40:16 But obviously not related to the, I mean, you know, they're both to do with jobs, but not related to what's going on in recent year. So the subreddit got 1.6 million users over the course of a year. And so that was pretty amazing. And lots of news outlets have been covering it saying, like, is this the birth of a new progressive movement? Is this because the Democratic Party is actually a conservative party and people don't have anywhere to go for this kind of discussion. There's a lot to be said about why this community
Starting point is 00:40:48 has formed so fast and so furiously. Fox News wanted to do a piece on it so they contacted the subreddit moderators obviously picked out whoever they thought would be the worst at it and requested them specifically because obviously, it's talking to you as they want to, you know, they can't let people complain about their bosses, they've got some licking to do. So they whipped out their boots and they invited on a moderator for the subreddit
Starting point is 00:41:17 who I guess founded the subreddit back when it was originally for just like never work at all was the idea. And that person is about 30, non-binary, autistic, and doesn't hold a job and hasn't held a full-time job ever. And obviously, the interview did not go well. They clearly were shooting it in some kind of basement. They did not look at the camera at any point.
Starting point is 00:41:50 They said lots of non-secreters. Obviously, they fell for every set up question. That was like, have you ever even held a job? No, I don't like jobs. I'm against work. Well, then what, you don't even contribute to society. Whatever fox needs is going to do. So subreddit melts down immediately, because don't even contribute to society. Whatever foxin is gonna do. So subreddit melts down immediately
Starting point is 00:42:07 because they look like huge domasses. It's really bad. It's being made into memes all over conservative places and it sucks because a lot of the momentum of the subreddit was people finding it through popular on Reddit or through memes and then learning the ideas for themselves and being like, hey, all this stuff I've heard about how unions are here to exploit me, that doesn't seem true.
Starting point is 00:42:28 It seems like they're here to, XYZ, they're learning, they were learning through osmosis and memes, which is the first time anyone on the progressive side has accidentally stumbled into anything effective let alone an executed recruitment plan. And so obviously things looked really grim. So the moderators of the sub Reddit were like, Hey, you can't tell us that we fucked up. So they locked the sub Reddit and
Starting point is 00:42:50 started deleting everything. All of this is so far inside Reddit baseball. What I find to be very notable is that our anti work, the moved to another subreddit called r-slash work reform. And in work reform, they were like, let's just rebuild anti-work. And we won't have those moderators. Overnight, almost 500,000 people signed up for work reform. And that's overnight. They have to have heard about the news story, have a Reddit account, log in, feel pressing enough to go delete the old subreddit and log into a new one, subscribe again. Like, that's a big amount of people to make a large push. I mean, if you're willing to do all this stuff, you're probably willing to vote. And it's pretty, I mean, it's the labor solidarity that has been happening and the labor movement pretty much the only solidarity that has been happening
Starting point is 00:43:45 and the labor movement pretty much the only thing that gives me even a shred of hope about the future or about like humankind's basic nature. But because it is emerging with literally no support from anywhere that America has built as an institution, there is basically no political support, no profit support, no financial support, no corporate support, nobody gives a shit.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah, nobody wants you to get a better paycheck except you and the people who get paychecks. So for it to come up overnight is a real statement of like there's a huge swell of political power on the left that could be used by a left-wing party, but we don't have any. And then our anti-work reopened at subreddit. Obviously now it's just a giant cluster fuck between the two of people like fighting and infighting and this shit's gonna go on for weeks. But all of which to say, I find it incredibly hopeful
Starting point is 00:44:34 that it was that big of a deal. All this within subreddit drama over one interview on a shitty Fox News show that nobody who uses the subreddit would even ever see. And it means that people are really invested in this. And I hope someone somewhere can tap into this unbelievable amount of political enthusiasm and pressure for basic labor reform. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And do something with it. But I think obviously if I had a plan for it, or if I had anything in my background that would point to me being a respectable person, at all, I would just run for office at this point. He's running, but I would be... He's running. Although Donald Trump, a racist would not be disqualified. I would be disqualified,
Starting point is 00:45:18 because I talk about busses or whatever. Yeah, well, I think it rightfully so, really. Anyway, that's what's going down. It's pretty wild. Wow. Well, I mean, well, I think it rightfully so really. Anyway, that's what's going down. It's pretty wild. Wow. Well, I mean, listen, there are certainly some bright spots there. I have to say, I don't know. I've been thinking a lot about the, just the way we take care of people in this country,
Starting point is 00:45:45 it's crazy. Or don't. You know, guys, this is exactly how Joe Rogan starts stuff. Like, you know what's crazy man is, you know, it's like, you know what's crazy man is, there was a, there was a tube. There was a tube. That I brought about in the Amazon,
Starting point is 00:45:58 and they don't even get old man. Like, they found, you ever found in? Listen, do you ever wonder like, people wearing shoes like why do we wear them? That's so dumb so don't feet feet were made feet were made to walk around you ever think about the first guy that ever open a window What was he was his deal? What was he looking for what you think was out there? Well, he's just like crazy. Oh, there's a hole in this wall, but I wish there wasn't but only sometimes crazy Yeah, it's crazy. No, there's a great. There's a but I wish there wasn't, but only sometimes. It's crazy, man. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:25 No, there's actually a great tweet I retweeted, which is like about, maybe we already talked about this. I can't remember, but it's like, it's a fake Joe Rogan conversation, but it's like, I'm not gonna get back to him. You know, he's like, yeah, I really like hamburgers, but I'm trying to cut down on pork.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And it's like, the guest is like, a hamburgers made of beef. He's like, no, I'm pretty sure it's a pork product. And the guest is like, no, it's definitely made of beef. And he's like, Jamie, can we check on that? And it's like, it's like, yeah, it's like, anyhow. But, you know, is there hope for taking care of the people? You know, I think there's only one thing that we can do,
Starting point is 00:47:00 which is to get a crew together, like a high-style type of crew, like a guy-richy kind of snatch situation, and swim, get a scuba crew together, and go out to where that under-c cable is, that where the internet connects, you know, and just chop that fucker wide open. And it. Just be dumb with it, you know, get onto there, get down there to the under C cable, the one that is making the internet work, and just chop it up, and then we can be free of tyranny, and we can live again.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I think that's the only answer. I'm afraid, although it's gonna be a good hard for me to... Who do you think you think my shirt is? The first guy to ever cut a wire. What was his deal? It's pretty good. Pretty good Joe Rogan. You should do a Joe Rogan like a podcast.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It's like Joe Rogan, but it's like, it's like, he's like exactly in the character of Joe Rogan, but I don't wanna get this a good idea actually. It is. I got my cast out with the tiny laptop. Diana, look at that. She's like a completely non-onsensical Joe Rogan character. I think that would be, I think that would be good, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:09 Like you know how Will Ferrell has like, he has a podcast where he's in the character of Ron Burgundy. Yeah, it'd be like that. You'd be in the character of Joe Rogan. Oh, bro, Joe again. Bro, Joe, good. Exactly. Bro, Joe, good.
Starting point is 00:48:23 He just like present like thought provoking topics or people to kind of all over talk a lot about ancient aliens and you know And And football players cool don't like I think it's cool I think it's cool like like I read a lot of really crazy books when I was a teenager and then I got like I grew up and I learned Other things I think it's cool if you could just stay in that Headspace what if the colors that I see are not the colors that you see and then I got like I grew up and I learned other things. I think it's cool if you could just stay in that headspace. What if the colors that I see are not the colors that you see?
Starting point is 00:48:49 That would be not. It is, I think it could be cool to remain in that innocence headspace where you just like are like, I'm not sure about what we eat and are someone's cousin. That's just your, yeah, I don't know about facts. Like I don't know about them. I don't wanna know about them. I just wanna imagine what, imagine what can I think of
Starting point is 00:49:07 as possible within my own mind? You know, what could even be a fact? Because I could just go into Wikipedia and change it. So is it back? What are facts? Nobody knows. Or even facts. Anyhow, what else is there to talk about?
Starting point is 00:49:20 I mean, is there anything, I feel like there are other things going on. I honestly though, it's like this week has been the longest week of my life. We have things we would talk about the analog pocket. So if we want to give some radios to the little talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. Red meat. You've done a review.
Starting point is 00:49:35 You've got a review coming. It's out. It's out. And I have to say, let me just before I have a red your review. I'm going to just give it to you straight. It got posted while we were recording, so I'm not sure. I see that. I see that I'm looking at it right now.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I bought the analog pocket. I received it on like right at the beginning of the shipments because I got, you know, it was fast on the trigger finger. You know, it's nice. It's great. It seems great. You know, if you have a lot of Game Boy games and stuff and that age of games, it's cool. I will say, but like, I have a lot of Game Boy games and stuff and that age of games, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I will say, but I have a lot of handheld emulation things now. I've got a Retroid Pocket 2. I actually just got the, ironically got the Retroid Pocket 2 Plus, the day after, a week after, not the day after, but two weeks after I got this thing. I'm pretty experienced with gaming on a handheld system where you can play like old games.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And I know it's like the screen is really beautiful and the controls feel pretty good. And you know, you can put the cartridge shoved the cartridge right in there and you get the game going. It doesn't, it wasn't like a revelation to me or anything. I wasn't like, oh my God, I've been wanting to play these games in their native state
Starting point is 00:50:51 and now I can finally do it, it just feels so, I mean, it's nice, it's fine, it's great, but like, you know, it's not a revelation by comparison to playing like any decent, on any decent emulator. I mean, maybe you'll disagree. There's any, you can drive any car. This is a very nice car. And the difference is the screen is really nice.
Starting point is 00:51:14 The build quality is amazing. The buttons feel great. The D-pad's a little long, but otherwise the buttons feel great. Yeah, the D-pad kind of like moves a lot. That was like a little bit like. It kind of like has a lot of like a travel like in it's, you know, just like,
Starting point is 00:51:27 but I can't make a deep head that I do like that isn't made by Nintendo in 1998. So I don't know, I guess I say, I gotta switch pro controller and I think it's superb. It's my favorite controller now. They revised the D pad on that a few times that I haven't tried the new latest. Oh, well, I got whatever the,
Starting point is 00:51:43 yeah, I just got it because I was playing dead cells like a crazy person. I was like, I need a better controller. Like my shit kept disconnecting. You know the, whatever, the joy cons are not, for whatever reason don't keep a good connection. I mean, they're just trash. They are just, yeah, they really are. But in any rate, sorry, not to get off topic.
Starting point is 00:52:01 So yeah, no, the good quality's amazing. The screen looks great. It obviously, I had to buy some games because I don't, I do have off topic. So yeah, no, the build quality's amazing. The screen looks great. It obviously, I had to buy some games because I do have some of my parents' house, but I don't have them here. Actually, one of my big missions is to go and just absolutely storm my basement and get all my old games and stuff out.
Starting point is 00:52:17 But like, you know, it's very niche. This is a very niche product. You know, it's for a very specific kind of person. And even in its current, has it been hacked to play ROMs yet? Because it's not. You can play it to play.com. How it files?
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah. I think the thing is that the OS is not finished. This like V1 OS is not really V1. It's like V.6. And that when they're dropped V1.1, that will be like a polished enough OS that they can on the side leak to developers like how to work around. They're like very, very, very, very basic copy production and run ROM files, but they don't want people messing with the OS until it's in a finished enough state that it won't fuck with people's devices.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You know, they don't want a lot of brick pockets being sent back to them. Is that, is that the, is that the reasoning? That's what I guessed at, but obviously analog wouldn't say even if they liked me and they don't. I'm trying to see if, I'm trying to see if, I'm just looking to see if it has been happened. But EverDrives work. Yeah, EverDrives work. They work. They're a little wonky.
Starting point is 00:53:35 There's some wonkiness that I don't fully understand about. Yeah, there is. I got an easy flash. Yeah, it's like I wouldn't say it's a preferred way to do it. I also had something happen. So I bought a Actually like well this revelation that occurred to me Was when I started looking for games. This is actually during my COVID During my COVID quarantine. I started like looking for games and I was shocked to discover that like to get the real Castlevania games for like the Game Boy Advance.
Starting point is 00:54:07 They were very expensive. I didn't manage to hunt down a couple of copies in like so-so condition for a reasonable price, though probably more than they sold for originally, which is saying a lot. And I think I think something happened the other day that I've never had happened on any of my emulated games, which is like the game froze. It like did the thing where it like literally stopped being functional and I had to like restart and I assume it's because like it like had a bad connection or one of the one of the you know I don't know something's like wonky. It was like you know something that would it used to happen on the NES all the time. You know that shit when the NES would just
Starting point is 00:54:54 like freeze on like a note. Who do you think was the first NES to crash? That guy thinking sorry I'm sorry that's good. Yes, yes I do remember the NES would crash. I remember when my genesis crashed., it's too good. That's good. Yes, really good. Yes, I do remember any answered crash. I remember when my genesis had crashed. But it was a whole fucking rare of a, yeah, of a bad impression. Well, at any rate, the thing doesn't have, it doesn't have fucking Wi-Fi, like why?
Starting point is 00:55:16 Why not? For something. Yeah. I don't know. It doesn't have blue, I understand why. It doesn't have anything. No, it's bare bones. It's't have blue eyes. No, I understand why. Which feels a little... It doesn't have anything. No, it's bare bones.
Starting point is 00:55:25 It's for a very specific type of person. Yeah. And you can go on Reddit and you can talk to them and see them out there. You know, it's fine. It's cool. Like honestly, to me, it's very much like, with everything now, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:55:38 I can't believe this idea that I would like, take a cartridge out and put it in a box and then get another cartridge and stick it in there. Like, it seems wildly dated to me. It's like, logically, it's good. I mean, I do like the idea, I still like using, I mean, I use flashcards, let's be real.
Starting point is 00:55:56 But I do like the idea of using original cartridges when they're available to me because it does kind of force you to enjoy the game you're playing and not be like, I'm gonna put something else on or, you know, not value like, oh, I finally got this card that's really difficult to get. Now I'm gonna play the game like it's going to the top of my pile. I'm so excited about it.
Starting point is 00:56:13 If every game is available to you all the time and as someone who's worked his whole life to make every game available to himself at all times, um, it's not a great idea. Ultimately, if you're not like a super engaged gamer who's burning through their catalog because there's no reason for any of these games to have specific value to you. Obviously, I don't think that people should pay $150 for a shantey cartridge that the developer will see no money from.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Obviously, I think that's a silly idea. That shit's crazy. I mean, the fact that market has blown up so insanely is really interesting, just as a cultural artifact. Because I don't think there's a shortage of those games available. I just think they got thrown out or something, or they're just in somebody's dress or drawer,
Starting point is 00:57:06 or whatever, you know, or they're just in somebody's like dresser drawer or whatever and Anyhow so Sorry, I'm just looking at a somebody modded a so I have a turbo express here That one of the things I wanted one of the things I wanted to do with the with the analog pocket was it's gonna have a PC engine adapter So you can put like PC engine games in it, which you can also, which work on very small cards, which you can also play on a turbo express, which I happen to own. And now I'm looking at a person's modded turbo express
Starting point is 00:57:34 and I have to say it looks so fucking sick. And I really want it. I have a modded turbo express. Do you, with a screen, a new screen, bigger screen? New bigger screen. Wow. Is this you? Are you a neo-nickel?
Starting point is 00:57:47 No, but if you go to my Instagram and scroll down on the grid, there's a picture of it. Wow, I'm not gonna do that right now. That's fine. We'll do it later. I will do it later. At any rate. So, yeah, so it's like, you can't.
Starting point is 00:57:59 There's no PC, no PC, engine adapter, turbo graphics adapter at this point yet. So they're not available. Anyway, it's nice, it's fine. I don't know what did you say about it? What was your final observation? I think, you know, definitely go read the review. I think, oh, hold on.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Yeah, don't give it all away. I mean, there's probably some shocks and surprises in there, like a twist ending. Definitely go read the review. But also, I think it, I ultimately think it is a very, very nice device for specialists and hobbyists right now and down the line if developers do actually support it in some capacity by which I mean like old new versions of retro games like oh I developed this new game for a game. Or if the FPGA
Starting point is 00:58:46 cores end up being used for cool stuff, or if hackers find a way to like mount roms on there and run Genesis and Super Nintendo games, then it's an incredible device. It's the world's only FPGA handheld, and it is very nice for what it is. And the fact that the only one that exists is in fact really nice is, is very great. However, today, should you spend $200 to receive one of these in a year? No, obviously nobody should do that. Nobody should spend $220 actually to purchase a thing that will not show up for them for a year. I waited over a year for mine and I pre-ordered it at the first opportunity. And there's a million ways to play these games.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And the fun of going back to these old consoles is partially doing or picking out the mods yourself and being like, okay, I want a really nice screen and I'm gonna get a flash card and I'm gonna put Bluetooth audio in here and maybe wireless charging and like, you can make really whatever you wanna make it. I mean, obviously you can only play Game Boy Advance games like you can make it really whatever you want to make it. I mean, obviously you can only play Game Boy Advance games if you're not a Game Boy Advance
Starting point is 00:59:48 or Game Boy games if you're not a Game Boy or Game Gear, etc., etc. But, you know, if playing every game from every handheld is important to you, the pocket still isn't the right choice, right? Like the Retroide Pocket 2 or any of those emulation handhelds are a better choice. So ultimately, if you care enough about the Analyle Pocket to read a whole review, sure, go buy one. You were probably gonna buy one anyway, and I'm telling you that it's nice.
Starting point is 01:00:14 If you've never heard of this thing, you don't need to know about it. And you will hear about it. If at some point it does anything cool, right now it just plays Game Boy games in a really great for that, but they're Game Boy games. I mean, we're talking about Tetris here. Yeah. No, exactly. Like, you can get an Nintendo switch for a lot cheaper and most of the best games have been remade for modern audiences with my AAA studios and they're on sale right
Starting point is 01:00:38 now. I don't know. I, well, I will say, yeah, I mean, I think there is something really charming about it. It's like, I like these very specialized pieces of hardware. I mean, you're talking to the king of it over here. Right, I think there's something really cool about having this thing that has such a specific use. I just wish that I love that I can put like a GBA cartridge into it.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I love that, that's possible. And I love that I'll be able to go get my old Game Boy games from home and stick them in and play them. And honestly, I am looking forward to playing like RoboCop on this, you know? But, but with the greatest opening music of any video game in the history of video games. But the, what I would like to be able to do
Starting point is 01:01:22 is have the choice to put a bunch of roms on there, because I know this thing can emulate pretty much, not anything but a lot of things. I would love to have the utility of being able to play roms for games that I have, that I would like to be able, I would like to be able to play easily on a really great device.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Because the retroite pocket, or whatever, kind of sucked by as just like a piece of hardware. And it's like it's interface is bad. It's just like not well designed really for what I would like to do. I wish there was, at this point there was the optionality of doing like, like I got the, whatever their SNES SNES is some people call it, some people horribly call it. Super-en-tea. Yeah, the Super-en-tea, and I got like the,
Starting point is 01:02:11 I think they did ghostly version, like a ghostly collaboration, it's like really fucking cool. And I do have, you know, a few games that I can stick in there, but it also you can hack it, you can jailbreak it basically, and then you can like put an SD card in there with a bunch of ROMs and play them, you can jailbreak it basically, and then you can put an SD card in there with a bunch of ROMs and play them. You know, and it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Now, I only have done that for SNES games, but it only works for like 95% of the library. Right, right. But I think that, you know, I kind of would like them to see, I'd like to see it opened up whether it's by hacking or otherwise, I'd like to be able to do both things. So you know, that's my, I'd say that's my kind of final thought on it. Personally, is that I don't find it that convenient because it's like, sometimes I want to play, you know, the Castlevania game I have on a a cartridge but there's a lot of times I got
Starting point is 01:03:07 play for a few minutes and I'll decide to play something else now one thing I am planning on doing whether I do it on this or elsewhere as I want to play the mother games I guess I'm get I don't know like I'm not really sure where to start I think I might just play mother three and. I would if I were you play the original earthbound and then well I got so I downloaded I got a figure I guess I can put them on the flash card that I have but I downloaded well wait what are the what are the what systems are they for is the original one I got all three of them so there's an original first two games mother one and two that were the original one is for NES and then when they came to the
Starting point is 01:03:46 US, they did a remake called Earthbound and made it a little prettier for SNES. And then Mother 3 was supposed to go to N64. It got scrapped, but essentially what the idea was was redone for GBA in the style of SNES game. Right, this is all very confusing. So I downloaded the translation, like the whatever the official or the fan translations or whatever the, there was like, there was like, because there's a conversation about this,
Starting point is 01:04:15 there may even be a subreddit for it. And people are like, what should I get? And they were like, here's all three of them with the English patches. You know, I guess because they were fan translated. Are you familiar with this? Am I making this up?
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yes, I am familiar with the fan translations, because Mother 3 has never been released in the US for some reason. So there's a very, very polished fan translation that the fans have offered to Nintendo. They can just use this extremely powerful translation. And apparently that's like just please release it officially. So people can give you their money. Yeah, so I have, you just need her. So I have Earthbound, I have Mother 1 and 2,
Starting point is 01:04:53 and then I have Mother 3. And SMC, that's a, that's a, that's a, the other one there's an AIS version. Are they all Super Nintendo? Oh, but they did Mother three for the Game Boy Advance. Mm-hmm. Okay, right. That's it. Because that was the, that was what got me down the rabbit hole was like people were talking about what games are you going to play when you get the pocket. And then the mother, somebody started a mother conversation, one of the reddits or whatever. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:05:17 oh yeah, I was like, I've never played that. But I've like heard a ton of people talk about it. Like, I should, this should be my opportunity to go and play it. So I'll have to play what you're saying is I'll have to play Earthbound on my super NT and I'll have to play Mother 3 on this thing. Is that the idea? Yeah. Here's what's actually gonna happen is I'm gonna play them all on my PC.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Like, here's what's really is gonna go down, is I'm gonna play the one that Xbox controller on my PC hooked up to a 4K 65 inch television. So just the way the creators intend it. Anyhow, we should wrap up. I gotta go because Zelda's just got home and I have to go have dinner with her. Oh, because I'm a family man. Do you have any nice things? I do have nice things. God, do I, I don't know, after this conversation, bleak, oh, oh, oh, oh, I do have a nice thing. I do have a nice thing.
Starting point is 01:06:11 You wanna hear my nice thing? Yeah. Okay, here's my nice thing. I, so I've decided, well listen, I mean, I love to acquire things obviously. I'm in a highly inquisitive person. I'm very into purchasing items and then like, either looking at them or using them,
Starting point is 01:06:27 usually a combination of the two. Some time ago, several months ago, I remembered these speakers that were originally they were originally called blue room speakers. They are these like weird speakers that are in the shape of like, essentially if you can imagine three balls stacked on top of each other, they are like really, really weird.
Starting point is 01:06:52 They look like an HR Geeger designed. They're the iconic 90 speakers that look like a butt butt. Yes, yes, yes, or that dog toy, the Kong. Yeah, the Kong, yes, yes. You know talking about, which is like a thing, you. Yeah, the Kong. Yes, yes. You know what I'm talking about? You put, which is like, I think you put in the butter inside of the dog. It's like when a dog's really annoyed,
Starting point is 01:07:10 you put peanut butter inside of a Kong, which looks exactly like a butt plug. And it just licks the inside the hole of the Kong, which is disgusting. And honestly, love it. If you've ever heard a dog licking peanut butter out of a Kong, it is like one of the worst sounds of all time.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I really really love it. They do love it. You've earned a dog licking peanut butter out of a con. It is like one of the worst sounds of all time. I really really love it. They do love it, but anyhow, so these things look like a con kind of, but I remembered, when I first started going to Raves and DJing, they were advertised, this is in the 90s, they were advertised in all of the BPM or Mix Mag,
Starting point is 01:07:41 or whatever fucking magazine I was reading. They were advertising, I was like, oh, these are so fucking dope. Like I wish I could, but I couldn't afford them or I didn't know how to get them or whatever. But I remembered, you know, a few months ago, like I had saved an image of them on my Pinterest.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I have this like Pinterest board of like my purse, it's like just a personal board that is a private board that where I'm like collecting things that I want or just like thinking about and wanna keep a record of them somewhere. And I was a few months ago, I was looking at it, I was like, fuck, you know what, I should get those speakers for my office.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And I started hunting them down and it's like, they're made still, there's like a new version of them. I mean, they're the same things, but they're like made by a new company, and they've updated them in all these different ways. And it's like, I was like, oh my God, you can just buy them. Now, they're not that expensive. In fact, they were having like a new year sale.
Starting point is 01:08:35 This is like in the early part of the, I guess it was in December. They were having some kind of like Christmas slash new year's thing or whatever. And I was like, I'm gonna fuck get these. And then I was like, okay, fuck get these and then I was like okay You can only you you can there it's a Denmark based company and They don't ship to the US they ship everywhere but the US basically so I went through this crazy process of
Starting point is 01:08:56 This using this like third-party service that like buys a thing for you in a foreign country and then they ship it to a Person and then the person ships it to you. And I'm like, oh, this is a total scam. Like I will never see this money, it's gone. Like I'm, I'd just randomly chose it from like, googling no idea who the company is or what they do or whatever. I'm like, this is just kissing my money.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Good bye. Yeah. But I rolled the dice and you know what? Like a week ago, they fucking arrived in a box from Denmark and I couldn't believe it. And I'm looking at them right now. They're sitting on my desk and they're so awesome looking. And I have to say, I've been filling my desk
Starting point is 01:09:37 with all of these weird shaped items now. So I have like, I have the Teenage Engineering computer one is my PC case, okay? I have the Square Monitor, the one one ratio, fucking Izo Square Monitor, and now I have these fucking weird Kong speakers, and Laura got me for Christmas, she got me an Angle Poise. Do you know the Lamp?
Starting point is 01:10:04 It's an Angle Poise, it's a famous British work lamp. They're like the classic like, you know, you know, like an architect's lamp, you know, with the hinges and stuff. Yeah, the picks are lamp. This is like the classic like European work lamp. They're like very famous. And she got me, they made a series of them that are like Paul Smith Branded with these crazy weird colors like they just have like various like each part of them is like painted some weird color
Starting point is 01:10:33 So they're like multi color she and I and this was another thing that was on my list And we made each other Christmas list this year and I was like I'm gonna put this on here Like I'll never buy this for myself for whatever reason and I didn't expect her to buy it But she did which was amazing. Anyhow, so now my desk is filled with all of these like, unusual items, which I feel is very satisfying in a way. And anyhow, by the way, these speakers are not made,
Starting point is 01:10:58 they're no longer made by the company Blurum. I think they're made by a company called, they're called, the company's called Pod Spe speakers, which you know, very unoriginal, but the company's called pod speakers, and they make them, they sell them in, they actually have a bunch of varieties, I got them in white, but they make them in other colors, and they do, I think occasionally they do like drops, and they also have a Bluetooth occasionally they do like drops.
Starting point is 01:11:25 And they also have a Bluetooth version in case you're not motivated to. Right now you can get them in red, black, and white. Now I did debate getting red, but I think I made the right choice of white, kind of a classic. You can't go wrong. And anyway, you can't get them delivered to America. You have to go through an insane process, but I did it and I'm feeling really good. You know what they sound great,
Starting point is 01:11:45 and they look great. And now all these zero people who have come to my office are very impressed when they walk in here and see what I got going on on the desk. So that's my nice thing is the Pod Speakers, AKA Blue Room Kong Speakers, and that's it, what do you got?
Starting point is 01:12:04 Two quick things. One is the HBO Max and Fran Drescher made a promo for the Nannies Complete Run being on HBO Max and they brought in Renee Taylor, who is 88 years old and used to play Fran's mom on the show and is as sprightly and delightful and sharp as ever and the short little promo is like, I don't know, 30 seconds long and it's hilarious and very cute.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I'm not gonna recap it, that's dumb. It's on her thing if you give a shit. The other thing is the Green Eminem apparently, they're making the Green Eminem less sexy as a publicity stunt to cover up for the fact that Mars is being sued for child's slave labor violations. Oh wow, wow. But, you know, the world's talking about the Green Eminem.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So, put the child labor stuff to the side because, you know, it's not like we're gonna do anything about it. I love that the Green Eminem is being celebrated as the dirty little slut that she is. I think it's great. I think, you know, she is a, a bimbo icon. And she's a cocktail- I saw the art.
Starting point is 01:13:08 I think they put it in different shoes or something. Like, I don't know, man, I think we all need to get, I hate to be like an anti-mask or whatever, but we gotta get out of here. We gotta get out of our houses. We need to get out into public. This is, we cannot be having extended conversations about the green M&M.
Starting point is 01:13:27 It just, I just don't think the highly erotic green M&M. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'll fuck the green M&M, okay? Or let the green M&M fuck me, whatever she wants, but whatever she's into it. Whatever she wants to do to me is fine with me, but with green M&M famously a euphoria team. I justem and Em, famously a euphoria team. She really is a euphoria character.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Anyway, I don't know, Manitaka Carlson did a segment on it or something. I just think we're beyond parody with reality right now. And... Who gives the shit out? I want to get somewhere else in life. I want to get somewhere else in life. How do I get out of this?
Starting point is 01:14:03 How do I get off of this planet? I just need the answer. I have to ask you before we go and before you leave the planet. Yes. Yes. You know, when we started doing this podcast, America was not normal, but very much a conventional place. Do you think we're causing all of this?
Starting point is 01:14:19 I mean, it does seem like- Like continuing to do the part. It does seem like with the start of tomorrow, there was a kind of slow decline in American reality. I do, it's possible that it's possible our topics are in our conversations are so provocative and mind altering that we're having ripple effects out through reality that we can't see.
Starting point is 01:14:42 So I think obviously there are some people who are very well-placed individuals that listen to what we do. Some very important people who are listening to this conversation. I know that, you know, like my man S.B. he's a big fan and he listens. And you know, does that, is it reflected in his show? I don't know. You know, in the policy he helped helped my man, DT sat. It's hard to say.
Starting point is 01:15:08 But, but I know that they're, they're listeners and lovers of what we do. I've got a lot of fan mail from them. You know, and so yeah, are we affecting reality? It's possible, you know, I got a, I got a nice cream eater who on a regular basis sends me an email to say how much he's enjoying it on his way to Coldstone Creamery or just returning from Coldstone Creamery. Got to have it. I got an old Southern gentleman by with the initials M.M. who tells me all the time he loves what we're doing
Starting point is 01:15:50 Find southern gentleman, but you know is it affecting policy a grand wizard even Grand a grand wizard. Is it affecting policy? Is it affecting reality it's hard to say you know it's hard to say but I think we can't rule it out. Well, we figure that out Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. All right, bye. Well that is our show for this week. We'll be back next week with more tomorrow and as always I wish you and your family the very best. Though I've just learned on a Tucker Carlson segment that your family has become unsexy and therefore undesirable to eat.

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