Tomorrow - Episode 29: Katie Drummond and T.C. Sottek Enjoy a $10-15 Winecast

Episode Date: October 25, 2015

Katie Drummond (Deputy Editor at Bloomberg Business) and T.C. Sottek (Senior News Editor for The Verge) return to the Tomorrow studio for yet another shocking Winecast. As usual, the discussion quickly reaches a breakneck pace, covering diverse and subtly upsetting subjects such as cat towers, Star Wars, Gilmore Girls, people posing with Christmas guns on Instagram, Donald Trump's attack ads, the Canadian election, bingo, and much more. If you miss this episode, you'll never be able to put the pieces of your shattered life back together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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TC, TC, TC, so tech and Katie Drummond, also known as the other members of the wine cast. Hello. We are drinking wine. We're drinking Bogle, essential red, 2013 vintage. 2013, great year. Great year, remember 2013. Great year for California Reds. So many amazing times.

Which iPhone was a 2013? That would be the iPhone 5S, 5S, 5S. 5S, 5S. The little colored ones. No, no, no, they colored ones, maybe. Five. Five. Five. Those little colored ones. Oh, they colored ones, maybe. Yeah. Yeah.

But I really missed those. Anyhow, it's a fine vintage, lovely 2013. And I have to say it tastes like wine. It tastes like red wine. And that's what we do here. Katie brought this. I did. Katie, thank you for bringing it.

I have had a very busy week, you know, moving into a new home and everything, but I still took the time. Because you don't need to be prompted. Guess who you could just tell your story. Katie tells what's happened this week. I have had a very busy week, you know, moving into a new home and everything, but I still took the time. Guess you don't need to be prompted. Guess who you could just tell your story. Can you tell what happened this week? Tell us a little about you guys. I bought an apartment.

Congratulations. With my husband and our two cats. Carl, Franzen. Not to be confused with Jonathan Franzen. Well, no. Famed author. I'm sure I've shared that. That, that.

Yeah, he has a Franzen. Carl that. That carol has friends in envy. And his goal in life is to have people ask Jonathan if he's related to Carl instead of the other way around. Which has been like a real challenge for Carl. It's an obscure, difficult to achieve goal. I would, if I were him, I'd focus on something a little more. It focuses on a little bit more gettable.

Yeah, well, like a really nice cat tower for the house. You know, he already actually so Carl in our current department and I I love him. He builds a seven foot tall cat tower in our current apartment. Have you seen this? I'm not seeing it. I can only imagine. I have a photo of Carl posing next to it. It is much taller than Carl. I have a photo of Carl posing next to it. It is much taller than Carl So he built that and when we bought this new apartment. I I put my foot down I said no seven foot cat tower in the new apartment. We're homeowners now. Let's act like grownups So let's give her to these cats cat bed cat towers I just felt like we could have something a little more reasonable and so no like a smaller cat tower so Carl on Sunday we took possession of our apartment and very exciting big milestone and

the first thing Carl did was take our rental car and drive to a different neighborhood than where we live to buy a special cat tower that he had been eyeing for several months. I was $200. Wow. It's art deco. It is. So you might want to spend that $200 on in the house. It has white fur, white fur trim, a white fur lining, and it's like.

The cats need the fur. It's sort of like a madman era cat tower. That's cool. So it's not our deck. It's more like a kind of mid-centri- But the cat's not care. Well, I don't know what kind of not. You could put some milk crates on top of each other.

I'll let me get over them. I'll get a level. And they would be thrilled. I don't know what cats care about. Okay, here's the thing about cats. They're unpredictable. They don't you can't see into their feelings or thoughts, you know, they do whatever they want. You see how many cat towers do you have in your home? Zero. You got like a spiral staircase or something. Don't you? I got like a multi level. Yeah, cats love that. Are you serious? Are you serious? How do you know what cats love?

Cats love the climb. I know that. I do. Okay. I've seen nature documentaries. Jungle cats, domestic cats, domestic catacats, all of the climb. What is this podcast about again? I don't know. What do you guys want to talk about today?

Yeah. Listen, the wine cast is in like a sacred space where it doesn't matter what we talk about, okay? And the people listening, they know, they can't expect anything of any quality during a wine cast. No, expectations. The expectation is, wow. The expectation is, we'll bleep the F word there.

You'll still understand his point, but we'll bleep it anyhow. The point of the wine cast, oh, I'm sorry, Magnus is breaking in, hang on everybody, yes Magnus, the producer of this podcast, you also have to be Swedish. Oh, really?

Okay. Oh, okay. Sure, why not? Of course. Hey, you know, maybe it's your podcast Magnus. Magnus has just instructed me that I should introduce, he's just told me that I should introduce the guests. You should.

Magnus just missed the whole back there. That's the way he looks. He's sweet. You know, they're very high suicide rate in his country. He's the person to understand. Let me introduce Katie and TC because you may be a new listener who doesn't know about their body of work and our deep, long relationship that we've had collectively. Katie is an editor at Bloomberg Business, Bloomberg.com.

And formerly was a editor at theverge.com website. True. TC is the senior news editor at theverge.com. Also a website. We work together at the verge. We all work together at the verge. Yeah. And now-

Somebody would say that's how we met. Yeah, maybe. Some would say that's how we met. Yeah, maybe some would say that's how we met They're both very accomplished very smart people and I love being in their presence because they always have interesting things to say and at the verge We would I would we would have them on the verge cast I would you know they would join me and we would drink wine and we called it the wine cast and we're trying to recreate a little bit of that magic here at Argo Studios in the heart of New York City, which is where we record tomorrow.

This is not a plug for Argo, but they are, as far as studios go, pretty media. It's a beautiful space. It's for studios go. It's spectacular. It's not the worst experience I've ever had. I like the old elevator sound. Ask for Paul.

Yeah, I really like that. Any time. So any house at T.C. and Katie, we're just catching up now. We actually, you were just saying that we need to be like 15 minutes to get to know each other again because we don't hang out that often. Yeah, you know, we have lives.

Yeah, you guys have lives. You guys have lives. One of us. Who? You have a child. That's true, I have a child. And anyhow, so we were just catching up on the cat situation.

Yeah. Can he's a homeowner and has a cat? I guess I have. You've won two cats. And TC has two cats. And he just got one of the cat situation. He's a homeowner and has a cat. One cat, you've won two cats. And TC has two cats and he just got one of the cats back. He didn't have one and now he's got it back. What are your cat's names? Ripley. He named after, of course, Sigourney Weaver. Yeah. And Andy and Rory. What's the name of the cat in Alien. Cause that's what you should have named your cat. Too late.

What are your cat's names? Hot Cheataylor Drummond, Franzen. I'm sorry, can you say that again? Hot Cheataylor Drummond, Franzen. Is one cat's name. That's one cat's name. That's one cat's name. The other cat's name is Shade Francis.

Drummond, Franzen. So there's a hyphen situation going on with the family. Do you have a hydrogen? No. You're just drumming. Just the kids. You're just drumming. The kids are the cats, is what you're saying.

Yeah. If does Carl's he taking your last name? No. Because that's a very modern thing to do. But I like my last name better than I like his. Is it because of the Jonathan Franzen Association? I just think it's a superior last name. Drummond? Yeah. I guess when I think of your last name better than I like his. Is it because of the Jonathan Franz in association? I just think it's, no, I just think it's a superior last name. Drummond?

Yeah. I guess when I think of your last name, when I hear your last name I think of it. It's a little less goofy. His last name's like a little goofy. When I hear your last name, like a little zen. There's also the box one that's associated. Why your Franz, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a same as his, I hear Franz, yeah. It's not good. And then with your last name, I think of drumsticks. Okay. And Mr. Drummond from my dad, Mr. Drummond. Mr. Drummond, from the show, what is with Arnold and different strokes?

The name of the show is different strokes. Mr. Drummond was like the dad, he like adopted the kids on different strokes. That seems like a positive association. So that, yeah. Well, drumstick. Drumsticks are good. I'm the food.

Nobody has my last name. I've done extents. You have a sweet last name. I like last name. It's like there's like three IT guys in Germany who have my last name. It's a weird last name. It's very weird. S-O-T-T-E-K.

You should write a story about those three guys. S-O-T-T-E-K. Yeah. Have you ever thought about forming a society of sold-ics? You should find them. Track them down. I think there is a society of Sotics called my family. SOS.

Oh, that's a good point. SOS. SOS is really good. I love that. I don't want to say, I mean, if that becomes a thing that you owe me, 10%. I know you a lot, Josh. 10% of everything, whatever happens

after a society of SOT. 10% of everything. Anyhow, so let's talk about what's going on in the world. I've been playing on Ask You. So you have, this is a big day for you, not only because you've just recently. So I'm going to hit this bogey real quick. Yeah, please do get the bogey. Get the bogey in a mouth. Get it out of the mouth. You can talk about it from the bogey as well.

This is a great wine. Bogey. Bogey. Not, this is not endorsement, but if you're drinking. Oh, nice. If you're looking for. TC just poured me a very large glass of wine. If you're looking for a red wine that is not

Not offensive to the taste buds. I recommend bogal It's great if your price point is between sort of ten and fifteen dollars. You're really getting impressed of how much Katie cares Oh, but you should be careful be careful Government there's a government warning What's it? From the surge from the surge in general. What does he say about bogal? You shouldn't drink this if you're pregnant. Okay. Not pregnant.

Okay. Well, that seems like very quick to jump in. Very quick to make it. Not pregnant. She is not currently pregnant. Not pregnant. I appreciate the nanny state telling me what to do. You know what?

Let me drink my wine. That's actually, I was just getting to that. So you've just had a big in your home country of Canada. Canada. Yes. Proud to be a Canadian once again. Can I say, Can I say, Hold on one second. Nine years of Canada. Canada. Yes. Proud to be a Canadian once again. Can I say, nine years later?

Can I say, hold on one second. Nine years of tyranny ended. Nine years of Islamophobia. Over. You could tell to Canada was a completely different place the last nine years. I like how they, their whole term, their terms are nine, nine years, a strange Canadian way to do it. We don't have term limits.

So he just goes on and on and on. You're of course talking about the great politician. Stephen Harper. Stephen Harper. Great friend of and on. You're of course talking about the great politician Steven Harper, Steven Harper, great friend of George Bush, great friend of haters everywhere. I have no idea. I don't know any of the environment. Does it matter who runs Canada? Let's be honest. It does matter. Is there a big difference? There's a lot of there's a lot of Canadians up there, you know, and they and most of them.

There's a majority of them. This is the respect for Canadians. The majority of those Canadians live within 150 miles of the US border. So we need to match. To keep them in check. They keep happy. They keep happy. Oh, you're worried about the liberal.

I'm worried about Canadians crossing the border. Are you worried about the liberal influence? What do you mean crossing the border? How like to come live in the United States? Yeah. No. It's a concern actually. I'm not here. Canadian.

Canadian. I'm a do it. I'm a do it. I'm a do it. I'm a do it. I'm not here. Canadians taking American jobs. Think about the editor. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down.

I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down.

I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I'm a do a sit-down. I Also, there's a US election. That's sort of, it feels very soon. It's actually in like a year. It's a whole year.

It's never ending. But it's gonna be a year of great campaigning. I wanted to ask you guys. Great campaigning. I'm sure it's great. Who your favorite Republican candidate is thus far. Kill me. I'm gonna guess your loving Donald Trump.

I don't know, loving. How would you describe it? How would I describe Donald Trump? Oh God. I'm trying know loving. How would you describe it? How would I describe Donald Trump? Oh, God. I'm trying really hard feelings for him. You're feelings for him. I would say overwhelmingly negative. Really?

Yeah. I'm surprised to hear that. Although he did make a good point this week. You just tell him how you hate immigrants. Yeah. I just heard that in my life. Not the same kind of interview. I also just heard that.

Okay. Yeah. So it seems like you would align with Donald Trump. You're in Donald Trump. You're in Donald Trump. I guess we got it. I right? I also just heard that. Okay. Yeah. So it seems like you would align with Donald Trump. You're in Donald Trump. I guess we got that. I guess we got that. I guess we got that.

I guess we got that. I guess we got that. I guess we got that. I guess we got that. I guess we got that. I guess we got that. I guess we got that. I guess we got that.

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That's not true. Her pen up cat man. Right. She's taken all of her car. Take it out on someone. Carl cat rage out on you because she's easy because you also have cats and you love cats. I love cats too. I just think that you know boundaries. I feel like the way to talk about cats. He liked that much. I love my cats. One of them sleeps with me every night

What about the other one? He Doesn't It's got his own agenda He's busy working up the he's on his seven foot tower He's got his own little like spot. He's in one of his three cubbies on the seven foot tower There's three little houses on the tower and then three little buckets, little sleep buckets at the top. Now your cats have more space than most New York citizens. No, it's outrageous. Great observation. It's outrageous. You should turn that into a cartoon. Sorry,

weren't we? Let's talk about politics. Yeah, definitely. I know who my pick is for president. Who do you like? Mike Bloomberg. Pass. What's your, let's hear you. Bloomberg for president. Who do you like? Mike Bloomberg. Pass. Pass. What's here? Let's hear you. Bloomberg for president. Let's hear you. I think that would be an interesting presidency for sure. TC, how about who do you like for president? DT? It's a tough question. President Trump. I think right now I like Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie Sanders too. I saw Bernie on the TV show with the funny guy, Steven Colbert. Are you on dope right now? No, I know we're drinking a little red one.

Because I'm the one on dope. Are you on dope? I'm using her of me on dope. You didn't accuse her, I did. T.C. is using drugs. This stuff must be strong. Sure. It's called fog.

Your astral projection. Your astral, astral into me as I as I Accused Katie of being on drugs. Yeah, what do you want weed? Can we talk about that? Can we talk about your drug use? Well, you high on weed right now? It's okay if you are we're in America. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I'm proud to say it. Yeah, are you yeah? You're high right now. It's an active civil disobedience Bernie Sanders supports legalizing. He loves weed. Hillary is not into it Yeah, man, what about you? Drug use or president. Oh what presidential

Pursuit not related. I'm so unenthusiastic about every every person running including Bernie Sanders. He's fine What about that Jim web? He doesn't have Like the fine. What about that Jim Webb? He doesn't have like the carousamab. He's a guy. Jim, I thought Jim, Jim Webb dropped out. He's out. No, no, no, no, he only dropped out a web. I think he's going to run as an independent. He's going to run as an independent. All right. Okay. Magnus is chiming. Can we talk only about viable candidates? I can't just say something. I wanted to get people who are listening a little bit of the time in place right now because they're going to be hearing this on a Monday The, what is the date that they'll be hearing this madness? Great. He's really on top of things in there.

Really? Oh, the 26th of October. The 26th of October. We're recording this on the 20th of October, which is the day after my birthday. Oh yeah, have you be there? Thank you. I'm present.

I'm present. I'm present. I'm present. I'm present. And Biden will have an ounce. It may only be Biden, Clinton and Donald Trump. Oh my god But I'm moving back to Canada. Do you want to only talk about viable? Well, you don't like Biden Not huge on Biden why not?

He's kind of a lying son of a bitch. Wow. That is that you went from zero to 60 Very good. It's like very likable and a line son of a bitch I'm gonna describe the vice president the great United States of America. Oh, yeah, I forgot who was VP in my best. You really, you're Canadian? My name came out there. He sucks. He sucks.

He doesn't bring anything with table. He's charming. He's charming. He's charming. He is charming. He's got my hand on his shoulder kind of way. He's like, he's like, aha, grandpa.

He's a child to me. But Biden, what do you, don't be an ageist? So what about his age? What do you care if he's like a grandpa? I don't care about, they're all like grandpa's. You guys are all like, so you got a 42 year old prime minister or whatever. It doesn't mean I mean, I mean, I didn't say that he had to be a 42 year old prime minister. You did describe this Trudeau character as a hot, 42 year old hot prime. Everyone agrees. The internet agrees. What do you look like? I mean,

unanimous. He's a babe. He's like, object looks like we look like we pace. I read text only. I'm all text all the time Wap browser, so I don't know anything about pictures. Well, you know, I blocker ad blocker and photo blocker Okay, good. I only want to see the content My job is to read content and only content if it's anything that doesn't look like content. I'm not interested A lot of content on this podcast you know what a respond no I don't know how no I'm just saying there's no one Josh who's your candidate who who would you vote for if the election was tomorrow like come on well first off you can only have one Democrat one Republican who are really I mean you can have there's a bunch of but you know let's say you got to vote for anyone right now I

like that I like that does Ron Paul running I love him he's great the I mean, you can have there's a bunch of, but you know, ultimately, let's say you got to vote for anyone right now. I like that. I like that. Does Ron Paul running? I love him. He's great. The his spawn is running. Yeah, I like him. He's good. Spawn of Paul. I'm just kidding. Those guys are going to be insane. Though I have to say Rand Paul sounded like the most rational person in the last Republican debate, which is a problem for the Republicans, because I don't think Rand Paul's very rational. No, if I had to vote today, who would I vote for? It's like a very distressing election. I think Bernie.

I think it has to be Bernie. But the problem with Bernie is he's unelectable because nobody wants to. That's what I just said. Let's focus on viable candidates here. But let me tell you why he's unelectable because I don't believe that I don't believe America's ready to elect a Jewish president. That's what I said. I just don't think we are.

I think you're more likely to elect a gay atheist president before you let America break through the Yamaha ceiling. Yeah. That's not how we're going to describe it. I don't think it's a good pun though. I think it's more like this could go bad really quickly. I think we're gonna leave this one actually. I'm gonna use my best judgment and I'm gonna leave that at the Yamaha ceiling. I'm not gonna go any further and we're gonna move on. Now what's what are you saying? No, I was just saying, was there never been a Jewish?

Prime Minister in Canada? I don't know. How many Jews are in Canada? I don't think about that. You're blind to religious affiliation. Kind of, yeah. I just don't think about it. How many Catholic Presidents in America had?

One. Kennedy? Yeah, just one, right? Real, real good Catholic. What does that mean? Oh, nothing. You don't like Kennedy? But's fine. You're anti-American vibes is very strong I have to say I'm picking up a lot of American hate from I love America starting with your cats and Carl your husband your husband You know or as I guess you know whatever you have to get your green card for those listening

I'm thinking I just need to see this Sure, you're describing Carl's husband. Well, I just think there's a lot of questions. I have a US passport. There are a lot of questions. T.C., you must admit. More questions than answers. No answers. I mean, I love living here.

I love being a US citizen, but, you know. But. But. But screw America and screw all of our great candidates. I think it's an underwhelming election. I think that, you know. Well, I think we're kind of having a America ready for Danish style Canadian socialism.

That makes me want to Danish right now. I yeah, the government will give you one. Why do we get some donuts or something for this next time? I had some donuts for my birthday from Peter Pan and Greenpoint. What did you do for your birthday? Nothing at all. Nothing. On the Sunday prior to my birthday,

I'll be your Josh. Oh, good question. 28, 20 years old. 20 years young, I think. 37. It's amazing that I made it this far. I never thought I'd make it a 26. 39.

38. 39. You're the right vicinity, but 10 years. 10 years. 50. I'm 55, I'm 55 years old. I'm finally able to get my AARP subscription going. Big day for you.

Big day for me. I'm fine, and my drugs are gonna be going big big day for you big day for me I'm fine and my and my drugs are gonna be discounted. I gotta say I really like the matching tracksuit that you're wearing Yeah, I decided very fetching. I decided when you're 55 it's time to put the tracksuit on Just slide into it in the morning slide out of your bed that goes up on its own You know, like has the little razy. What do you call that? What do you call this bed? Oh, I really want one of those beds. Like I believe you know, reclining the bed that you can stand up in. No, totally. I just want to slide into my tracksuit, slide into it,

just like it's like position, it's like open, you know, and you slide into it, and then you slide into some slippers, and then there's like a rail, like a rope, you can pull yourself up on. That sounds great. Where are you going on the rope? Well, you stand, because you slid in and you're on the floor,

but then you grab the rope. You grab the rope right now. You grab the rope and then you do a little wall walking. Sure. Why not? In the kitchen where there's a bunch of Peter Pan dough, that's waiting for you. Yeah, that's your life.

You're gonna get to Bingo. It's a nice life, yeah. You gotta get to Bingo unless you're hosting a private Bingo tournament at your home. Is that what you did? Well, let's just say that's what I, how I spent most of my birthday was playing bingo. The greatest game.

I love bingo. Let's understand. Let me understand the way bingo is played. You have a board, you wait for somebody to call a number and a letter and then you put a thing on the board. Yeah. And you just random. You try to make a row.

So you used to like a luck of the draw. Yeah. Anybody, anybody? A blind luck. I guess I can see how that would be entertaining. At any rate. So what were we talking about? The candidates. The presidents. If I had to vote today, I guess I can see how that would be entertaining at any rate So what were we talking about the candidates presidents? Oh, if I had to vote today I think I'd have to vote for Bernie. Yeah, because he seems Like the only person who's in full of shit basically. Yeah, I mean, I have to say like I'm sorry. I like Hillary

Like do you though? I like Hillary as an idea. Yeah There are certain aspects of the first woman president There are certain aspects of Hillary's personality that I really love. There are certain aspects of her of her policy making and her positions that I think are very strong. And then there's a lot about Hillary Clinton that strikes me as incredibly manufactured. Errogant manipulative dishonest. Yeah dishonest. It's hard to describe it. Strategically though, robot kind of has to be like an establishment candidate to be the first woman president, right? Well, yeah, to a degree, but there's like a stab.

I mean, there's like, she's got a bigger hill to climb than everybody else. Then Barack Obama. I think I would have been excited about Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren has has a super down. I should have said, Quah, down with Warren. But here's the thing, she has a son. I would have been super down. As you know, say, Qua down with Warren. But here's the thing, she's not running. I know. So you gotta let go of that fantasy.

You gotta get into the real, the realness. You're right. I'm sorry. I was Hillary Clinton. And I like Hillary Bernie ticket. I could get behind that pretty easily. Bernie is her running. For a VP. Yeah.

He'd be a strong VP. You know, he's not gonna sit around and be like, yeah, whatever you want, Hillary, he's gonna be a complete pain in ass. I don't think he would be a VP. That would be fun to watch for his. I don't think he'd go for it. What would be enough for him? Well, he's be a strong VP. You know, he's not gonna sit around and be like, yeah, whatever you want, Hillary, he's gonna be a complete pain in the ass. I don't think he would be a VP. That would be thought to watch for a race. Or what would be in it for him? Well, he's not a lektable.

He's not a lektable. He'll never be. He'll never. He's not a lektable. He's not a lektable. Okay, we have a major, if the young people in America pour into the polling, where would they call them, voting booths?

Polling stations. If they pour into the voting booths during this election, if the young people get off their ass, because most people who vote in America, first of almost nobody votes, because we have completely broken system for getting people to vote. Second, it's mostly old people who are voting.

Now, I will say Bernie appeals to old people because he is one and also. They're all old. Also, I feel like he's talking about a lot of stuff that's important to them, you know, like social social security but I just don't think that he's he's too radical he's very radical but socialism in revolution on you know that's like something you never green everybody say in american politics which is a shame because like we do need some more socialism we do need a revolution yeah I mean it is radical but it's also radical for the top one percent

of the top four% of the top 4% of the top It's also rad however many percent. I don't know what you mean. What are you getting at? I'm saying it's pretty it's a pretty radical condition to live in where like two people own all the wealth in a country Yeah, but that's exactly that's another reason why Bernie will be will be not electable Crushed like a bug because those those forces with so much money will back anybody. I know he's getting a lot of small donor money. I know he's getting small donor money, but that has to be sustainable and there has to be a huge outpouring of support that

is nonstop. This needs to be an Obama moment. Nonstop and also strategic in terms of voting in a way where you can win. What is this bungalow weird system here, the electoral college? Yeah, the electoral college. It's not just like popular vote. It's not just like bring the masses out to elect Bernie. It's like certain states have more have more points on the board. But if the popular vote is overwhelming enough, then the electoral college is going to, it's, I mean, it's like the popular vote can be like, so you got 75% of the vote, but somehow he still is in president.

I mean, it's unlikely that that would happen. Unlikely. I mean, you know, I mean, you need to know bomb a situation essentially. Well, people who lost the popular vote have won as president before. But by little, little, little, little relatively, well, bush. Yeah. But you're talking about an election that was stolen by a criminal who should be in jail right now. George Bush is who I'm talking about. And by a, in jail right now. George Bush is who I'm talking about. And by a huge cast of people who manipulated and cheated the American public,

and did it for eight years and destroyed our country. Sorry, this is just how I feel about George Bush. That's totally fair. I think he's a war criminal and the worst present that we've ever had without question. And all of the problems that we're dealing with now that we've dealt with through Obama's presidency have been caused by George Bush and his presidency.

That's why we need Jim Webb. We need Jim Webb in their because he'll be too, I mean, he's literally survived being constantly choked by that time. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, Jim Webb, do you ever get a man to survive anything? Jim Webb will just, we'll just crush the life, just suck the life out of somebody

if he gets his wife. So I have a theory that stuff that shit like Twitter and anything else where you can tweet at someone like moderately famous. Yeah. It will perpetuate their delusional plan to become president. Because I saw Jim Webb retweeting people after that debate who were like, oh, he has an aura of leadership.

Yeah. So like, well, first of all, what they have, what they mean is that mean. You can retweet anybody. That's like those movie reviews where it's like, they're just using random people's like it's right. Trump does that too. But no matter who you are, there are so many people out there that you can get tweeted at all day by a very small percentage of the actual people that live on the planet and think that you have it like you've been ordained.

Well, this is the most dangerous part of our social media existence is that you basically, okay, the internet allowed you to have your weird opinions confirmed by professionals or experts. And now like social media goes beyond just having your ideas confirmed. It's like you're in a real-time conversation with people who are like, absolutely, that's exactly how the world is. I agree with you. Let's go mobilize. It's like gamer gate.

I mean, excuse me, I'm sorry. I have a, I'm getting over a cold. Maybe have a little sip of bogal. Let me clear the subject. With this delicious 2013 bogaly. Bogle essential red. What does that mean? It's like don't you can't live without it. You can't live without it. What is how I feel old vine blend. They're trying to pull some like you know pirates of the Caribbean shit with that label right. I like it. Any hides I was saying

before my cold took effect. You basically have this like echo chamber of people, I mean, it's worse than just the internet existing like and having all these weird confirmations of bullshit. Now it's like you are having like a real-time conversation with people who are essentially giving you like a distorted view of reality, right? Yeah.

And that's what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Also, Twitter what you're talking about. Definitely. Yeah. Also, Twitter's a very abusive place, which needs to be something that needs to be said about that. I was like wildly abused on Twitter by some God nods recently. I realize that.

Yeah. Oh, I think I saw this. I think I saw this. I think something about, I think something about gun control, saying that like if you don't think you should be stronger gun control, you're basically a bad person, which I believe, like through and through. And it's a good thing you don't work at BuzzFeed because you would have been fired. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Why who got fired? First question, who got fired? Well, someone got censured. Was it the person who was tweeting about how they love the Pope and also trying to work on the Pope? Yeah, that was interesting. Because that was, that was rough. I don't know what happened.

I don't know what happened. I didn't see any centering happening there. She was pretty excited about the Pope. And it was like a really messed up. It would be like somebody diverge at the apple that going like, oh my God, apple so awesome. Of course, people, the people who read the verse think they do that anyhow.

But you know what I mean? Like literally like, but here's the thing, it's true. We need love apple. I mean, we all go home after working at the verge and we literally have sex. With apple products, exactly. It's true.

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off their guns on Instagram on Christmas morning. Yeah. Did you hear from some of the Instagrammers? I found it. Didn't hear from some of the Instagrammers? I find it. Didn't hear from any of the people that I like embedded. I had a gun control thing where I tweeted this thing about guns and you know, do you know Nero? Oh my low.

I had to block that gun. Yeah, I blocked them too. I mean, he's a loser. They he's a complete loser. Like, just to be clear, the guy is like a desperate. He's desperately trying to find it. He's a shock job. He's desperately trying to find an audience.

He like had a failed tech site called the Colonel, like what you know, be right. The Colonel. Yeah, the Colonel, which is now been sold to the Daily Dot and has been revitalized. But he failed at that thing and then he basically found the Breitbart audience and was like, I'm gonna be a Breitbart guy and he's like a shock.

He's like a wannabe shock jock sort of dude. So I don't even think he really believes the stuff that he's saying. I think he's just doing it because there's an audience there for him. Anyhow, so he retweeted it in some other like loser, similar loser retweeted it. And it was just like crazy, like 24 hours straight of abuse from like gun nuts. Who were like the weirdest, I already talked about this in other podcasts, but they're the weirdest mixture of like pro-ju, anti-ju, pro-Israel,

anti-Israel, all very very focused on guns. Love guns. Their needs for guns. The most interesting one was where women, there were women, supposedly. I think a lot of these accounts are actually fake, but there were women who were like, how dare you threaten my right to defend myself against rape. Oh my gosh. And I'm like, wow.

That is a really far walk. Wow. Like somehow gun ownership and rape, there's some relationship between those things where like, oh yeah, if everybody guns are being a more rape, which is what gun names say. Anyhow, it doesn't work. So like, but the internet, like,

yeah, there'd be a lot more rape at gunpoint. Exactly. But use the thing, like, but Twitter has allowed, I think Twitter more than Facebook. Facebook is actually quiet. I mean, Twitter is like a comment. It's like the comments. The way I look at it now is that a lot of what Twitter is

is essentially comments without the content. It's like, if you took away the part at the top of the page that was all the stuff that was the story and you just had the way people were reacting to the story, that's like most of the conversation on Twitter. For now. Well, for now.

There's a total like media platform singularity happening. And Twitter is jumping. Like they're they're late to it. What do you mean? Yeah, they're going to start embed like you know the screenshot, right? Like where people take screenshots of text and put it on a tweet. Like they're they're getting rid of that. Yeah, but they're going to let you embed like Twitter cards already. You can embed the content. Yeah. On tweets, but you have to do a text and you're going to be able to soon. But it's still like a snippet of content versus the actual thing. Sure.

But that's all people talk about anyway. The snippet of content. Nobody talks about the whole thing. They talk about the headline or they talk about the. That's true. People never read anything. It is true. It is like the headline.

It is the comments. No, I mean like, you know, I've had want to- I've had many instances of people being very upset about headlines and not reading the actual story. I don't want to, I'm not gonna get into, I want to talk about that, but I'm not gonna get into that. No, let's, yeah. I'm not gonna get headlines as content. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna talk about it

on this podcast, we thought it was- Very abusive. Yeah, it's a very abusive environment. But it's created, it's also created like, it just has amplified that echo chamber that people already felt like, if you believe the Holocaust didn't happen, which you know, the jury's still out,

we don't know, we don't know all the details. If you believe the Holocaust didn't happen, there's always a website that would be like, hey, the Holocaust didn't happen. Now it's like, it's just this real-time reverberation of that idea. Yeah, but you had to look for that website. You know what? and you were alone,

you were like over here, like you couldn't hurt other people with your lame, like Holocaust in-hapen website. Now it's like there's this direct line to like hurt whoever you want, into like yell it whoever you want. And there is like an enormous amount of yelling on Twitter. And I do think this election cycle's gonna be completely nuts

because we are dealing with like like, basically unmoderated trolling, like on Twitter. But like between the actual candidates, too. Yeah. And there's no more, like, okay. And it's like, there's a big going, there's a presidential election and you have periods where they talk to the press or they do town halls, but they don't really engage with each other a lot,

except for attack ads, but now it's really engage with each other a lot, except for attack ads, but now it's like 24-7. It's like the 24-7 attack ad. It's like the Amazon. It's like the Amazon New York Times meeting. Have you seen Donald Trump's attack ads on Instagram? No. They are unbelievable.

They are epic. They have audio. Do they have audio? Do they have audio? Yeah. Oh, I'm trying to remember the one that I saw. Well, it's like real Swift boat type shit. Can you get one up? Yeah, I'm trying to remember the one that I saw. Well, there's one. It's like real, it's like real swift boat type shit. Um, can you get one up? Yeah, I can get one up. Are you on the web right now? Oh, I'm to on your well done.

T-Mobile. Motoe. Motoe. Um, why don't you switch to project five? I might actually do it. You're gonna get an access five X. I like T-Mobile though, you know. Well, it's the same thing, isn't it? He likes T-Mobile. What do you have? Verizon? I just got a new phone actually five five five acts next to six iPhone six. Oh, you got an idea. I had a five. See I had a color a blue one blue baby my little blue baby. I remember that phone Bye, blue baby. Put it up to the mind. He's gone. Here we go Damn it. Is that Obama? No, this is a this is a this is a Donald Trump Damn it. Is that Obama? No, this is a this is a this is a Donald Trump Yeah, oh, yeah, I have an HSA and some companies some companies don't I think the norm ought to be

Wow It's just like it's like a really child making for It's very child latest one. The latest one he did, Bernie Sanders. He's like a giant who we said can't protect the country because he can't protect us on a microphone from the Black Lives Matter people. What? But he puts like clown music, Benny Hill music in the ads.

It's just very like, you know, Donald Trump. Donald Trump is like the cartoon version of Sarah Palin. You know, I mean, he's like just bad for this country on every level. And like, either he doesn't know it or he knows it and he thinks it's funny. I don't think that he takes any of this very seriously. Do you do you think that he would actually like accept the nomination or do you think he's just doing this for attention?

No, I think he would accept it. I think of course he would accept the nomination. I sometimes just, I just wish that this is like a giant satire. He takes himself extremely seriously. I don't think he takes any of this very seriously. I mean, when you're on stage and you're like making fun of the way people look, like you're just not in a head space where you're taking anything very serious. That might just be his head space. Well, is that space? But it's just like the type of the type of ventures he's done, like Trump University, the way he licenses his brand to people, like he's he's done like Trump University the way he licenses this brand to people like

he's he's extremely manipulative. I mean he thinks very like if I don't know I feel like that C-suite level like personality he takes himself very seriously like he assumes people who he's insufferable who denigrate him. Yeah I'm very aggressive. He's no chance of him actually being the candidate. There's no chance. I don't know, a lot of racists in America. There's a lot of racists, but the Republican party has to make a decision. There has to be a coming together of the Republican of the delegates to decide that this is going to be the person. Has to be will be.

I'm just saying, like I just don't think, I just don't think that they want to get behind Trump. I just don't, I think he's too, I mean, he's completely unpredictable. They can't control him. They can't control them. No, I agree. I can't control him. What's the point? That jab they could do whatever the jabs like a little puppet they can work him however they want. I need some help sleeping his brother said that 9-11 did you know? Oh, yeah. That's the one useful thing. Oh boy. Have you seen that back and forth over the past week? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it Jebs awful too. They all awful. We cannot have another but there's no single. There's not a single way like I will leave.

So I can all watch that Rand Paul all day live stream. Yeah, and you know, like you said, Rand Paul makes some good points compared to the rest of the Republican field, which is funny because of the debate. He's on the, they put him on the literal fringe. Yeah, like on the end. But he was like, you know, everybody wants to do this no fly zone in Syria and get us into a war with Russia And he's talking about stupid that is yeah, and he's pointing out, you know, there are no like Good sides in Syria Everybody's a fucking bad proposition right and that's how I feel about the Republican party. Yeah. Oh God No, just imagine I'm sorry like at this point if Mitt Romney

Mitt Romney where I'm he stepped in this is the here's how crazy the Republican at this point, if Mitt Romney stepped in, this is the here's how crazy the Republican Party is right now. If Mitt Romney showed up, I was like, I'm running, there'd be no question in my mind, no question that he was easily the most reasonable candidate and the most electable candidate. And by the way, I looked at Mitt Romney in the last election, I was like, this guy, no way. But honestly, he seems super normal and rational and smart. Seems like such a chill bro.

By comparison to every other person who's in that party. Yeah, that's insane. I mean, half half the people at the debates want to shut down the entire government to stop funding Planned Parenthood. Right. I guess that just doesn't say anything. There's a should have.

Republican party is a complete mess. Can you imagine a rational, smart, reasonable conservative candidate? I can actually imagine like a person who is conservative as it relates to the economy, conservative, perhaps, on like immigration and some other things, but like he's not a company. You know what? There's a candidate for you.

His name is Jim Webb. Jim Webb is going nowhere fast. He's going nowhere fast. He's going nowhere fast. That's true, but it's funny. He's the conservative Democratic candidate. He's not like to pull in any party. He's going his own way. You should go.

You should join us. He's gone some of that cover band. He's more likely to have success doing that than anything else. Oh, no, he did kill a guy. He's upshareed kill a boarded one guy. But he got that guy. He did love the word. But did kill a guy. I'm sure he killed more than one guy, but he got that guy He did but he got that guy is a revenge is a revenge kill exact. I like attack him He was like me through a grenade and I took him down He's like a great now

But here's the problem. I mean here's the problem. Here's the problem is that young people don't want to go don't want to vote The young people like we're relatively well. Well, you have other stuff to do. I got, very busy. Yeah, check out the Discover Journal and Snapchat. We don't talk to each other. I'm sorry. But my mentions tab is blinking. Yeah, could we mobilize young people to actually give a shit?

Cause to me, that would change. About these candidates? Not likely. No, but that's what I'm saying. Yes, totally. But if they were actually mobilized to give a shit, these candidates would disappear really quickly. I think young people were mobilized around Obama.

Yeah, in the era of folks. And I think a lot of people have been disappointed by Obama. Very disappointed. Although Obama, I think, has been actually a pretty good president. I mean, he's made some mistakes. I mean, the really troubling thing though, is that the bar of effort for voting for a president is extremely low.

Like nobody votes for Congress, which is arguably way more important. You think we should change the president? You don't vote for. Like nobody votes for Congress, which is arguably way more important. You think we should change the president? You don't vote for president, we vote for Congress. Well, no, you vote for both. I'm just saying people don't mean in the people talking about the president, the big election issue, all about Congress. As the end all be all of American politics. That's what the big Canadian election is. Well, it seems to matter. That's how a prime minister gets to it. I mean, the minister is selected out of a winning party. I mean, there were public, right? They're the leader of the winning party. And consider that the Republican spent all of Obama's presidency

being obstructionists, right? Basically, their platform was whatever Obama wants to do, we're going to try to not do it. It's crazy when you think about like the American people should be so mad and they should be mad at Republicans because they basically have done everything they can to stop government from working. And they talk about like how big government is the problem.

They're the people in the who are the problem in big government. I mean, there are some decent Republicans, I guess, somewhere. I assume. Who's one? What is one example? That's a great question.

I don't know all the Republicans. No, I don't either, but man. There's gotta be one out there. Pretty rough. It's gotta be, that's a red car, so I love the bed car, so just kidding, that guy's a complete fucking idiot out there. Pretty rough. It's got to be done. I love the big cars. Oh yeah. Just kidding. That guy's a complete fucking idiot. Yeah.

I mean, I'm pretty sure he's like, I don't know. He really is like a legit. There's a very, I don't care. I don't care if he's a neurosurgeon. I don't care. Like you can be really good at brain surgery and also be an idiot. Yeah.

There's a very strong manchurian candidate vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Just to be like, I love this argument. I heard a lot of the Zargabone eyes being harassed by gunnots. Like the, oh yeah, what the Jews had had guns. Like, you know, it's like, yeah, just to be like, but I love this argument. I heard a lot of this argument when I was being harassed by gun knots, like the, oh yeah, what the Jews had had guns, like, you know, it's like, yeah, no, there was a gigantic machine in Germany

that was like, and this is by the way, this is the argument for like these people who are like, you gotta be able to like protect yourself against the government in America. Here's the deal, the American government, the US government has nuclear weapons, it has drones, it has daisy cut weapons, it has drones, it has daisy cutters, it has tanks, it has warplanes, and it controls all of those very, very well.

If you think your little militia in Alabama is going to rise up against the US government, you are very sadly mistaken. It's not going to happen. If Obama decided today to turn America into some kind of dictatorship, and he could mobilize the army to do so, no militia anywhere is gonna stand up to it Like I'm sorry to like no matter how many guns you have you can't stand up to like a fighter jet shooting a rocket at your house You just can't a fair point check out the hospital in Syria Like check out all the things that we blow up all the time

We're like check out a rack where hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed because like we were like dropping missiles on it. It's idiotic. I took every time. Every time I shoot, which is like every other day. This could be one of my popular episodes. The second amendment is that. The second amendment is that. I think of this guy.

He's chilling. Yeah. Anyhow, go on. What were you saying? Very chill vibes. And the second amendment is like a defense against tyranny by committing suicide. I don't understand what you're saying. Gun rights.

What about them? We got to have. Yeah. I need't understand what you're saying. Gun rights. What about them? We gotta have them. Yeah, I need, I need guys to collaborate. Well, this country be without guns. Guns are part of a, they have a fabric of America. You know, we are a gunser who we are. That's like literally the shit that people say. I am a gun. They're like, what about guns in Canada?

You can't buy a gun there, can you? No guns. You can't get a hand gun. You can't get a hand gun. We're not big guns in Canada. There's hunting. We're not like rifles to hunt. It's the process in Canada for, listen We're not big guns to Canada. There's hunting. We're not like rifles to hunt.

It's the process of getting a gun in Canada for a reason. The process for getting a gun in Canada is a deterrent to getting a gun. They probe you physically. They're lawful. But yeah, you can get hunting rifles. Sure, there are hunters in Western Canada where I would rather. It is so easy to get a gun on this country. It's stupid.

It's like I grew up in Maryland, which is like a really It's like California of the east almost We have to describe it without the weather or the other street without anything good about California Yeah, but it's very liberal. Uh-huh, and it is even in that state You could just go walk guns forever 18 year old can just go by rifle. Yeah, well, they might need it for something exactly Like taking care of an axe who cheated them. That's what people do with guns in this country. They like shoot people and crimes of Patrick. Good time to do an ad. Yeah. Let's take a break first, my answer. Are you guys familiar with wealthfront.com? Well, well, it can protect you against the bullet, but it can protect your finances.

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No, it's great. 10 minutes. 10 minutes. How are we gonna feel 10 minutes? Let's talk about what's going on? What's new with you? So the Star Wars movie. Oh Hey, it was talking about Star Wars god who cares about what's up with Joe. Oh, I read so many I read so many post today Huh, I'm into it. I read so many post today that were like here's every second of every

Yeah, literally everywhere you turn it was like mother Jones is like here's all the parts of star The Star Wars trailer that you need to understand. It literally, I couldn't even get out of shape and I will say I normally hate that shit, but it was somewhat helpful because I'm not really a Star Wars fan. I'm not a big Star Wars fan. We have, we have a mega fan of the verge who rich McCormack who lives in Japan, but he, I mean, he's like read every book. Oh, he's read all the. I didn't even know there were all the novels. There's a ton of books. I can't even come on man. Yeah, no I'm totally but it's actually not into it

There's a level which like someone's that much of a nerd about something is exciting To listen to yeah, because I can tell you every detail right, you know, no it's exciting because you're like Oh my god this mythology like you started getting to the mythology That's the thing to me like what is most interesting about Star Wars and what was really ruined by the last three Star Wars movies is the mythology of Star Wars. Like I would have loved to have only, wow, thanks for nothing left for me, nothing left for the Josh Pan. That's probably my knee neck.

I don't know if you're... Is that all gone? I just poured all of the wine into my NTC's glass. I'm gonna go in a bogal search. Just to update for everyone. I have to go out of bogal hut. Bogal hut. Bogal sounds like a small chain.

I bought this wine. I mean, title of the last one. It could be in the stores in the South. I just think of bogie. I'm like bogie is what I'm saying. So I'm sorry, you of Bogalhut. Bogalhut. Bogalhut sounds like a small chain. I bought this wine. I mean, title's of the last stores in the South. I just think of Bogie. I'm like Bogie is what I'm saying. So I'm sorry, you guys were really busy talking about Star Wars, don't let her out. But like the mythology of Star Wars is

really interesting and exciting. It was ruined by like George Lucas was like, I'm gonna explain the mythology. That's what he talks about. Any clorians? Yeah, I really had. Like it's like, yeah, you don't want to know, there's a way to to keep the mythology intact

while also giving some backstory. I just think that the last three movies were so, but the third one was actually pretty good. I mean, the third one was fairly entertaining. You get to see Darth Vader again. I'm not sure. I mean, you got to see like the end of Anakin in the beginning. I want to see what is it, the Tofer Grace,

who did it, like what? There's like a Tofer Grace did the Phantom, Phantom Edit. Yeah. Yeah. I want to see that. Is that his cut? Is the Phantom Edit? I think it is. Yeah. No, but the Phantom Edit was something separate. I think that's the Phantom Manus cut without

Jar Jar Banks and the Kid in it. And then Tofer Grace did a version where it's all three of those movies cut into a single film. It's supposed to be amazing. So are you talking about Tofer Grace from that 70s show? Yeah, yeah. Tofer Grace, who's also interesting,

cool, our progression tofer. Well who's also an interesting career progression. Well, he also is in movies. Sure. Sure he is. No, he is. He's in the movies. Yeah, I've seen him in a lot of movies. He's in the new movie about Dan Rather trying to get George Bush in trouble.

Truth. Truth. Yeah, he plays like the Tofer Grace character. He's like the young kid who is, he's green and no, he doesn't really know what he's doing. Likeable. Yeah, and he's like, did I screw up he doesn't really know what he's doing. Likeable. Yeah and he's like, did I screw up? I don't know, I'm tofer grace. But eventually he steps up.

But eventually he has to step up. And he- Even though he looks like a boy. He is a boy but he's a man where it counts. And his heart. And his heart. Jesus Christ. Katie, honestly.

At any rate. So the Star Wars stuff, I've watched the trailer several times and I gotta say it's a pretty good trailer. I'm a fan know, I'm a fan of trailers So yeah, just from like the first one is much better. Oh, I think this new one is very strong When you see that last shot with Kylo Ren Okay, now to say it just seemed a little too like how it knows where he's like I need to be the bad guy Essentially is like a bad guy. I know it's just very like you know He's not about the Star Wars universe is that there's good And there's just very like, you know, you know,

the thing you're not understanding about the Star Wars universe is that there's good and there's evil, and there's no gray area. You either a stormtrooper or your reformed stormtrooper becomes a Jedi, which one of the characters apparently is in that film. Right.

Okay, at any rate, I'll say that I think it looks very exciting and thrilling and much better than any of the previous George Lucas. Did you buy ticks? No, honestly, I don't wait in line. honestly don't want to use. I don't wait in line. I don't stand in lines.

I don't do that. Not the virtual online entertainment news. Not on the internet. No, not a virtual. What was the most important news T.C. tell us more? I think you can tell us more about this. I think what T.C. is referring to is the report yesterday afternoon that Netflix would be reviving the Gilmore girls for unlimited series of tests.

It's not talking about this. I haven't talked about it. So let's let's let's address a couple of things. Boom, let's address it. Big day yesterday. A couple of things. Justin Trudeau, Gilmore Girls, what's up? I mean, it was a big day.

It was a big day. Star Wars. Big day for things I like. I'm a birthday. My birthday was huge. The Star Wars trailer. It was a great day. Good for you.

You got a tweet from me. Trudeau. Big day for you. Tweet from TC. Wow. Huge. And the Gilmore girls. Yeah. Also, they also like the nexus is next eye. We're basically like sent out. We're officially available. Very exciting. It's not great. It's not a great. No, it is. It's nice. It's fair. It's very fair. I'm speaking from personal experience.

I think it's fine. It's better than that piece of shit. I can tell you that. It's better than this Moto E like donut that you're using. You know how much cell phone versus cell phone enjoyment. I've gotten out of the rest of the money that I would have spent on iPhone. I don't know if I can't have it. I have a lot of enjoyment. Well, the iPhone is a great device. It ain't the right. I like my phone. The Gilmore Girls revival. Let's talk about this for a second. So for a second. I have not seen, I'm gonna just admit it here. I have not phone. The Gilmore Girls Revival. Let's talk about this for a second. I have not seen, I'm gonna just admit it here. I have not seen all the Gilmore Girls. I kind of stop watching around.

When Rory and Jess broke up. See, Magnus stopped when Rory lost her virginity, which is a very interesting point to stop. Let's talk about that, okay? Let's talk more about Rory's sexuality. I'm just very curious why Magnus would decide to stop watching the show after that moment. I mean, we've got some of the strongest female characters ever written on that show,

no question. Some of the most interesting, most in depth, some of the most aspirational, I think, aspirational, so much fast talking. Now, Laura does not like to get more girls and will not tolerate even watching one second have it with me. Why? I just think she does does it. And I didn't do it.

But she doesn't like most TV. I mean, she doesn't, I mean, honestly, she doesn't watch much. I mean, she's sort of like, we watched the walking dead last night. She was barely paying attention. I mean, she does does it and I didn't do it. She doesn't like most TV. I mean, she doesn't watch much I mean, she's sort of like we watched the Walking Dead last night. She was barely paying attention I mean, she's just not she's like reading things and getting No, I know that feeling. I'm like whoa the zombie just got his head exploded, you know, that's what's going on I'm mostly just watch a million dollar listing I Can't deal with those shit San Francisco, New York. Fuck those shows. I like those people those fake ass That's why I watched TV.

You know what? Owning is for the birds, the rich birds. Yeah, I like watch. I like Trump. I'm not rich. Trump. I have 33% of you watch. You're going to be a conservative.

Podcast. Not only are you. Yeah, probably these taxes. This is government. We have small government. No, I have a tax abatement. Okay. Then anyway, I'm not sure you know what that means, but anyway,

it's it. It means that my taxes are the same for 20 years. Hmm, it used to be 25 years. Anyhow, the Gilmore Girls Revival is a big deal for several reasons. It's a big deal because it shows the power of the Gilmore Girls and the power of Netflix and the powerful Lexus Bladell, who was, you know, who is an angel from heaven. But hasn't done much since Gilmore Grews. No, she married that mad man guy. She married that guy. Vincent Carthiser.

She loves guys and three of your names, because she dated Miele of Ventimiglia for a very long time. Yeah, he was her co-star. Yeah. Right. Not to be confused with Miele at Nero. No. The other Miele.

The founder of the colonel. The former's interesting. He Campbell Campbell her husband a K bitch face on match face car thizer yeah that's his name 50 car thizer has a really cool weird little house that they I think they put he's a weird guy yeah he's not normal he's off the grid I like it I like it I like it a lot why you dissing him what's up what's that watch madman are you jealous he's awful he's great I'm actually he is as a person though He's a little bit of a rapist Every perforal. Yeah, he's a user and an abuser, but at the end of the day he gets he gets his wife on that plane

If I hey spoiler alert the end of the day he goes bald and is a sad person. Well, that's we're all headed there in some way. Aren't we? Okay, I know you get flowing locks right now, but so when what what other details do we have on Gilmore girls on Netflix anything Well, apparently all the cast is buying into this is Jess back I don't think it's gonna be seasons isn't like several like movie in four 90 minute movies. Oh So it's like it's like Sherlock so awesome like Sherlock so awesome That was like a strangely sexual sad that you made and we're very both TC and I are both very disturbed by the power of female sexuality in this room. It's a bit of a patriarchal moment for us. I think we're feeling threatened by that.

Sorry. I'm just very excited about that. He's very pleased to his cat cave. Cat man is cat man a superhero should be. There are a lot of cats. Cat man. And man a superhero should be there are a lot of cats cat man and we need men to you and my husband Carl could team up and you could get capes and you could say straight cats on the streets of my heart you could be cat man I'm totally down tell Carl about this idea you get the cats on like a leash and they could attack the enemy right

my cat would love that right which one Rip? Ripley Ripley the other one. He loves people. Yeah, I wouldn't like it. Oh no. She's a weeny. Shade Francis would enjoy that. Great. You get Shade Francis and Ripley together and call it, just call it, you know, it's not that. And then what's your other cat's name? Rory Gilmore. Rory Gilmore. Oh, Tachi and Rory could have a girl's name. All right. Are they both girls? Uh, Hachi is neutral. He's gender neutral. I don't understand.

It's he said he is. He have a male genitalia. No, it was, he got it snipped. No, you don't, it doesn't all go. He snipped, snipped, snipped. Yeah, but you know, they don't cut the dick off. I thought you were like, I thought you're a science person. Do you know how this works?

He snipped, snipped. You're supposed to actually know more about it. No, he doesn't have hormones. His hormones have been removed. Ripley still has this one. I think you're using a very narrow way of labeling what he is and who he is. No, he got snipped.

You know, that doesn't mean that he's not a man. No, he's not a man. My cat's not a man. He's a human male as far as I'm concerned. My cat is a human male. Correct. As far as I'm concerned. My cat is a human male. Correct. As far as I'm concerned all animals are human men. And I'm not gonna give you a round of applause.

I feel very sorry. You know what's interesting about Mars? Also water is from Mars. Water turns out. Flowing water on Mars. I've seen the Mars show for months for me. Really? No. You was the greatest American film ever created. Mars. I'm excited news. I'm excited news. The most several months for me. Really?

No. You was the greatest American film ever created. No, I'm too busy. It's good. I have to say I saw Mars. I thought it was just okay. It's Matt Damon. I like Matt Damon.

I like Matt Damon too. I like Matt Damon. That's about him as he's racist. Is he? He made some comments on his project green light show that were not sensitive. He was like not being that sensitive to people of color in that he was being a white guy. Actually like a white dude.

White splainting. He was white splainting some stuff and it was very lame. Okay, I think that's our cue to wrap up. I don't know what we talked about. Yeah, I think we had him here. It was smooth. Smooth to go. This is smooth like Bogle.

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This compelling red blend brings together the best of old vines. Oh, sorry, old vines in for now. I don't know where I got that from Sarah Kaby-ass doesn't say Kaby-ass, but I'm gonna shorten it and Kaby-ass Kaby-ass suddenly old. Oh, geez. Come on. Kaby-ass. I'm like anything. How is that short for anything? Kaby-ass is very clear That's a new aside. Kaby-ass. I've never heard of it. All right Magnus has had enough That's our podcast for this week guys. Thank you for joining me.

I really appreciate it. This was one of the best wine cast of all time. Unlike everything we've made before. It's juicy, it's juicy, rich, ripe, and luscious. Just like bogal. I think this is the first wine casting. Thank Casey. Did not curse at me, which makes it my favorite wine cast.

Home ownership is really. I'm a homeowner now. Home ownership is really solid. I'm a grown woman. This is a Bernie Hillary moment right here. Wow. The home ownership is really. I'm a homeowner now. Home ownership is really solid. I'm a brown woman. This is a Bernie Hillary moment right here. Wow, look at that. My hand is a little sweaty. Okay, I'm just gonna wipe it on this.

Just gonna shake your sweaty hands together. It's no big deal. Just like this red luscious juicy ripe wine. We just had a sweaty handshake. A TC and Katie just shook hands. It was very special. Okay, that's it. That's it. Thank you guys.

Bye, bye everyone. For the next wine cast, where will we drink more delicious vocals? We need two bottles next time. Two, do it.'s it that's it thank you guys. Bye everyone. For the next wine cast where we're drinking more delicious vocals. We need two bottles next time. Two doot. Sorry I thought about I thought about two vocals. Two bottles. Yeah all right well that's our show for this week we're back next week more tomorrow of course and it's always I wish you and your family the very best though they are drowning in a sea of vocal and you need to help them right now. you