Tomorrow - Episode 36: Paul Ford And The Best Of 2015

Episode Date: December 21, 2015

Josh sits down with the inimitable Paul Ford in an attempt to summarize the past year. It becomes immediately apparent that 2015 was one of the crappiest on record, tainted by Donald Trump, ISIS, mass shootings, and lackluster memes. To liven things up the pair also discuss upcoming blockbusters, the difference between Phil Collins and Robert Palmer, the Apple Watch disappointment, the changing landscape of digital media, and the new CBS sci-fi TV event, Patterns. Don't miss the end of the show which contains a shocking announcement and a grade-A opportunity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, it's great. I want to say something. I'm going to just get it out here at the beginning of this. This is the, this will be the final episode of 2015. Okay. Because I'm going to take a break, holiday break, yeah, little work slash life break. A little breather. And we'll be back at the middle of January. Okay, really breathing. That's not too long of a breath.

No, you know, that's not like serious yoga retreat. That's just like I stopped drinking for a while. Well, I have to go and investigate a botched murder case. So the next season, the next season of tomorrow is about somebody who's been arrested for murder, but I think they're innocent. I'm sure Mailchimp is already thinking, and I think there's a way that we can prove that person's innocent. That's going to go really well.

We're having Tequila. Do you want to do a toast? Yes, toast. 2015. Great year. Great time. I'm baking here. Oh, that is great. Argo Studios provides a really good.

Argo Studios where we record most, not all, but most of the tomorrow episodes. Great studio if you're looking for a service with a smile and a killer sound. Just a great place to come. Great place to come. Argo. Check it out. ArgoStudios.com. Do you have a URL? I don't even know if you have a website. Oh, Paul's got it. You can just Google Argo Studios. Argo Studios. Ar-Ar-Ar-Ar-Ar-G-O-T Magnus, my producer who's Swedish,

says that I have to spell it out. Ar-G-O-T Studios. How big of a country is Sweden? How many people live there? I think it's 14 or 15,000. Oh, it's one of those. It's pretty large. Pretty large. Nine million, he claims. All right, so that's roughly the size of one real city. Yeah, that's like New York.

Yeah, a little smaller. A little smaller. It's a little smaller than the Metropolitan. You know what I love about countries like that? Is everybody's kind of famous. Like if you meet someone from Sweden, they'll be like, oh, I have my own radio show. And I was like, I actually met somebody from the Netherlands recently who was like, oh, yeah, I'm on TV.

You know, no, but I mean, that's a thing in the Netherlands, right? Or Israel's like that too, where it's just like I have, I don't know. I have 45 separate art galleries. And you're just like, but they're here in a country the size of New Jersey. But there's no art here. Yeah. Well, it's great salt and it's great art. It's great art in Israel.

Historically, what would be wonderful art from Israel? Yeah. It's a great country. And so are so many other countries nearby. So many great countries nearby. Let's get into Israel. Let's really talk about what I really wanted to get you in the studio for today was to just talk about

the Israel Palestine conflict. Oh, it's a bad one. We're not talking about that conflict. What we're going to talk about in this show, what I want to talk about, what you need to do with us is prepared for, what you think is going to make for a great time, is 2015. Oh, one year. One year.

One year. What a year. First of all, mathematically, it's very interesting, because 20 is four times five and 15 is three times five. So it was really the 43rd year that had that kind of math anyway. Is that true? No. I mean, it's true, actually. I just made up.

My mom's really, like, likes to find randomly connected number patterns. Does she do, is she like a scrabble person too? Not at all. But she'll be like, oh, I just, she said something crazy to me the other day where it was like about my friend who had a baby and, and she was like, you know, his baby was 11 days late and you know, Eric was born in the 11th month of the year. And if some weird thing where she found some connection between those two events, that has nothing to do with her. A ball of thing or something. She's not a religious person. So she's not like in a connection between those two events. Is that nothing to do with one thing? Or is it a thing to do?

She's not a religious person. So she's not like in a company. She's not into numerology. Okay. She's not into religion. She's a spiritual person of course. I think she's just weird. I think she's a weird person.

That's entirely true. Matt, as you know, my mother well, you would agree. She's not normal. Great. He said, sure. Sure, sure. She's great, but not normal. But she sees patterns.

She sees, she's like a character in a one season NBC show called like patterns where it's like a character sees patterns and everything and they're like unlocking some huge conspiracies, some alien conspiracy. Right, you know what it is? She's the character and then like, do you think that she is the pattern master at the end of the season that they finally find or she the, like just a person who sees patterns like this?

I know she is, I know she is. Okay, let me just take it back. There's a kid who sees the patterns. This may have been a shock fox by the way, but there's a kid who sees the patterns. And then the patterns are unlocking a Global conspiracy of a government cover up of an alien species or something like that. Yeah, they're sending like transmissions or something But then so I think there's two roles that she could play one could be the wise

woman who the you know older woman who is like I see the patterns too and helps to guide the child. And then it's probably murdered like shot at the end of the last episode. Does she have a crazy wall? Yeah, she's got some kind of, or like a chamber or like a worship being, whatever it is, she sees the patterns who or definitely a critical scene in this where somebody undoes a combination like her safe lock using the patterns that have been defined. No, there's all sorts of things you do. Yeah, 11 11 11.

They're not just they're not just patterns unveiling. You know, everywhere, man, they're everywhere. And then or she could play middle school locker or she could play a government. Somebody high up in the government. Uh huh. A woman strong probably mean woman. Look at the government. Madeline all bright.

Madeline all bright. Bad Madeline Albright, the bad Madeline Albright, who's trying to stop the kid from revealing the patterns, the secret of the patterns. She also knows the patterns. She knows the patterns too, that's why she's in the government. Boy, the things they literally unlock everything from the show.

The patterns are, if you know the patterns, you can just, you don't ever have to pay for pizza again. No, and you know what I think you have to pay for don't ever have to pay for pizza again. No, and you know what I think is to pay for? You can go to a McDonald's and order off whatever menu you want, and all free. And I think like every electronic lock opens for you, which kind of solves the problem. You can do like you're in an ATM

and start spending out money, that's what I think. It solves the problem of how did they get into that car and just start driving? When you have a pattern unlocker with you, everything that could be about a troubling plot issue goes away. I mean, I think that's the thing. So like the pattern's running, you're running, you gotta get the car started.

Yeah, you're on the run from the cops. So what happened is the aliens have distributed about a million pattern unlocker devices. No, no, no, there's no device. I think there's a device because what they do, implant, what they do is they signal to people latitude, longitude, and they wait for people who have the natural patternability,

and this is the device is actually like your pattern matching amplifier. Let me give you another version of this. Okay. The aliens came to Earth and were immediately captured by our government and imprisoned for testing. And the aliens have telepathic, obviously I've told that.

Oh, God, they're agon-tonomo. And they are, they're agon-tonomo or wherever. No, it's called tonomo. Maybe, in the list. That's why they can't, like a sub-level, in like a, but it's why they can't close it. Like an ultra-black site, right? It's the only place that's warm like their own planet.

That's good, that's good. They can't close it down. They can't close it down. You know, Obama was like, we're gonna close it down and then they're like, Mr. President, but that's where we have the aliens. That's good. You can't close that. You can't close it down. You know, Obama was like, we're going to close it down. And then they're like, Mr. President, that's where we have the aliens. He'd have briefed one day. And he's like, okay, we're not going to close it down. Yeah.

And he also, but they're imprisoned and they're crying out for help because they actually came to this planet to save us. Right. Through their telepathic patterns. They're on the run. Oh, they're on the run. They speak from another alien race that is hunting them. And their entire language is patterned because they have is hunting them. And their entire language is patterns.

Because they have the patterns. Yeah, their entire language. And their language is actually tapping into like the fabric of the universe. Yeah, they manipulate it. The more I guess the more we describe this, the more I think this is actually a pretty good idea for a human.

Oh, I mean, it's super watchable, right? Because it's just, and if the aliens, are they sexy aliens? No, they're like weird, like tentacles. You know what's going on in the world, don't they? No, they're like weird, what are your tentacles? You know what's going on in the world, don't they? Nobody does furry aliens anymore. I get to eat what?

Yeah, or an elf. No, we've really, it's been like, What if they have imprisoned a family of elves? That's it, or elves, as I like to call them. Right? You get, there's a shot at the end of the first season and it's all of the elves. All the elves chained out of the house.

All the owls chained up in the super that final reveal where you finally see the face of the island comes up. And it's out. It's just alph and in a bunch of marine slowly torturing them. And just water water out of the table or else like cousin. Yeah. That makes it a lot funnier, but. It doesn't have to be Alves. It's depressing.

It is. Did you ever see the YouTube video of Out Takes From Alves? No. It's actually a legend, derrily miserable show. Like everyone's really unhappy. And it's just- Have you ever seen the movie- Sorry, go ahead.

Well, the puppeteer is just like spouting racist things through Alves. Really? It's real bad. Have you seen the movie permanent midnight? Yeah, yeah, I have. It's based on a book I think written by a guy who was a writer for Alph who was also very bad heroin addict. Yeah, and then they made a movie where Ben Stiller played him.

They'll call it bad movie, actually. Everything around Alph was apparently unbelievably dark and bleak. I think Alph was like the kind of death now for the 80s. I think that was where the 80 of death now for the 80s. I think that was where the 80s had to end. It was apparently at the very end. I can't remember where I read this. This might not be true, but the guy who played the dad,

the sort of Dweeby dad, he just got up and left. And it was like, okay, last shoot. And then they're like, okay, and that's a wrap. And he just got out when it was car in the library. Yeah, okay, back. Yeah, no, he whacked this just chimed in about the father smoking cracks. Now, I don't know about that,

but Banka seems to have a very clear of the work. I think you want to validate that through a reasonable source like Wikipedia. I think we're gonna check out Wikipedia concerning that particular fact. Paul, Paul, the owner of Argo Studios has claims to have never heard of Alph is what I'm hearing right now he does have a TV you can he didn't have a TV in 1987 either that was actually he threw his TV at 81 that's actually the perfect time you actually you show the

right you're like oh welcome back coders off the air I'm done I've seen every star track I'm done right yeah the original every Star Trek. I'm done. Right. Yeah. Well, the original series. Exactly. Which ended in like 60. You know, the speaking of movies.

Yeah. Josh. There are three films coming out that are sci-fi. 2016 or 2015? Uh, 2015. So we got Star Wars this week. Yep. Are you excited about it?

Well, you know, the last episode was all about Star Wars. Oh, was it? I actually was less excited. Mm. Oh, yeah. Star Wars will have been out by the time the people hear this podcast. Will you have seen it? Paul, on a second. I'm going to a private screening on December 23rd.

Oh, I'm not standing in line. I already went over this in the last episode. December 23rd. Okay. At any rate. So Star Wars, I was less excited and then once I did an episode of the show about it, I realized, and I actually went out today and bought the Star Wars new Star Wars video game Yeah, because I realized my excitement about Star Wars is actually higher

Yeah, I'm really pissed. Can I just say I really am upset about battlefront? Do you know what the game is like? I've seen pictures. Okay. It looks really cool. Yeah graphics are amazing It's very faithful to like the Star Wars universe. It's a dice. I don't know But it's not, it has no story. It's just like you can play different missions. It's really stupid. It's like, oh, we put, we made these amazing Star Wars universe with all of the characters that you know and love. But you know what? We don't think a narrative is important for those characters. You're just going to like fight a bunch of Stormtroopers on Hoth. Yeah. It's totally stupid. Do you want to hear funny Star Wars premiere story?

Yeah, I guess so. So back when the first one came, or the new hope. No, Phantom Menace came out. And so I was about, I was 20 something, I was in New York City and I had a kind of famous friend. And, do you want to name name? Sure, my friend Steve, who's on Blues Clues. So.

He was the host of Blues Clues. The host of Blues Clues. So seriously? Yeah. So he was like, the guy, the guy. Yeah, Steve. Yeah, he was, he liked host of my bachelor party. The host of blues close. So seriously. Yeah. So he was like, guy, the guy. Yeah. Steve. He was, he liked host of my bachelor party.

He's a good dude. He's a good, good friend like kids. Yeah, he does like kids. I mean, he can't really, you know, he, he didn't get it. You're here, recognize. Not so much anymore. Um, Did you make a lot of money off of blues clues?

He has a beautiful apartment and he's, he's a happy, you know, it has a good life. Is he a working actor now? Uh, he's a happy, you know, he has a good life. He's a working actor now. Uh, he's a, does a ton of voiceovers. I was making no, we should get Steve from Blues Clues on the podcast. That could be a very interesting show. He's very funny. He's done the moth a lot.

He's brilliant guy. So he called me up. He's like, you won't believe this. I got us Star Wars tickets. And remember the first before those movies came out, everyone was like, thank God the world is saved. And we got these tickets and they had holograms on them. And it was amazing.

No, Phantom Menace before people saw the Phantom Menace. They were like, damn. It was produced Star Wars movie. It was like, it is now. Yeah, and I was in famous like you were. I was just, I was working at a branding agency. I was like, this is- You were just some guy.

Porsche Muck. Just some Porsche Mock who locked into Star Wars tickets with the holograms on them. And I brought them to work and I just sort of sidled up to people, because it was back. Yeah, I just feel like, hey, you're a programmer. You might find the hologram on this Star Wars ticket interesting. That's good.

Yeah, I was good. They started to have a seizure. I was like a seizure. People were so pissed. They were just pissed to me. Like, why does this asshole get to go? Why does he get to go? And it's like, well, you should have been nicer

to Steve from Blue's Cleans. Yeah, or something like that. You mad him at the holiday party. So anyway, we go and we get in line and like, we just filmin' is there. And I'm like, wow, wow, this, whatever life this is, I want more of it. And then the film played. Yeah. And it was just, and it was like, wow, whatever life this is, I want more of it. And then the film played.

Yeah. And it was just like, what? Oh, it's so, I, so I recently, because I was bony not for the Star Wars episode, I did it with Michael Shane. Yeah. You know, Michael Shane, I think you've met Michael Shane. Probably. Oh yeah, yeah, hi, hi, Michael.

I'm Blumberg. Yeah. Yes, you know, Michael. Anyhow, he's a huge Star Wars geek. He's read the books and stuff. Yeah, it didn't, hi, Michael Bloomberg. Yeah, yes, you know, Michael. Anyhow, he's a huge Star Wars geek. He's read the books and stuff. Yeah, it didn't come up with what he was doing. He was a high-ranking member of something called, what is it called, the Emperor's Hammer?

The Emperor's Hammer, which was like a online community of Star Wars fans, he was like, so he had this going on. Yeah, but, so I was boning up by watching, by skimming them. Boning up is rough, huh? That's just, can you just get rid of the up? That's boning. I was boning, thinking of red by skimming the bony up is rough on that. That's just can you just get rid of the up this morning. I was bony. I was bony. I think it read it. Yeah, anyhow, but they're fucking bad.

I mean, they're really, really crazy bad. Yeah, they just like like everything about them is bad. I mean, I already said I want to get away from the whole like, oh my god, George George Lucas ruin my childhood and all that. Like, they're just like objectively insane. They cost $80,000 a second to make. Is that right? Yeah, I remember doing the math back in the day and they were just like, and I just like. It's not even like Jar Jar Binks is not the problem. Like every, like Jar Jar Binks is fine.

Actually, it was like the one thing we could all focus on. I'm not saying that I like Jar Jar Binks. I'm saying that the bigger problem is the plot, the acting, the special effects. What else has affected? It seemed to emerge from some narrative, some sense of how narrative works that has nothing to do with how narrative works anywhere outside of the Star Wars expanded universe books. Yeah, it was like fan service.

He ever read any of those books? No. I actually, I, here we go. I completely lost it at one point. I was like, I'm gonna read this one. It was one where it's just like a guy runs a diner on the Death Star and I was like, I gotta know. No, no, no, no, it's great.

Cause they gotta eat. I know exactly. Like I'm just, what is, what is, do they have commerce on the Death Star? Of course they do. You know, it's interesting. So I go ahead. No, but you got it.

You look at the, obviously there's a commissary. Like obviously you can go to the Death Star and get a slurpee. Well, like a you go to the death star and get a slurpee Well, like a name brand slurpee or a death star slurpee. I would imagine actually just about everything in the desk cuz you The Empire being the Empire they're gonna get a kickback on the slurpee actually now I'm so tired of Star Wars just having this conversation I the other one so the new Star Trek is coming out. That looks terrible. Fucking terrible. I mean, the trailer, the trailer for the new Star Trek is beyond. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's for us to start tracks when in my opinion not very good. No, especially that this one red sphere of bullshit. This one makes those look like Shakespeare.

Yeah, I'm a very close to this guy. It's the godfather one and two like a parasite. So the one that's that yeah, Independence Day two. Independence Day two. No, I'm ready for it. So it's got some sequel name to like the right like resurrection or the return reckoning The day

Surgeons research and so here's the first thing. It's every sweet spot. Let's just talk about this So I'm independence is one of my favorite all-time favorite movies great. I mean, there's not a moment of that film that I don't enjoy. Ah! Okay. It's so, I mean, I just love, I love over amplified B movies, and that's where it just nailed it perfectly. Independence Day is an American classic, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah.

Probably our first real great Earth destruction movie. Like in the 90s, a genre of movies started, there was like Armageddon and deep impact deep impact was weird Right, I mean pre pre-saging our our black president first black president Well, I think the thing would take several things did I guess 24 did also it's rough Until I think about that movie because like they were caught in traffic and drowned I want to list other disasters please, please keep I just want to say that there was a genre of these types of movies,

but I think that Independence Day kickstarted them where you could finally do like whole cities being destroyed believably in CGI. Yeah. And that was like they were like, this is it. And they were like, oh my God, you can blow up the White House and all of New York. We can afford this. Yeah. Just make a movie where that can happen.

That was models though. What in which? In Independence Day. Some of them were were models some of it was like C. Yeah, not like full C. Jeb at composites though. First of all how great that Will Smith is dead in the Yeah, he's not in the movie at all. No, it's like his I think his son is right. It's gonna be a son It's the creed of like yeah Yeah, it's it but I don't understand like why wouldn't Will Smith do it? He doesn't want to do any Seagulls. Yeah, I think also like they're saying. It's cool that there's Scientology in there too, you know

What do you mean like he's a Scientologist? He's a saying tall. Yeah, that's not confirmed. No, I don't think it's confirmed by him I maybe I don't know all I know Smart move on his part. Yeah, I should be a Scientologist remember he did after earth to and that kind of bomb I mean most Smith hasn't been in any hits for a long time. That's true. Was the last like big hit, Will Smith was that? Maybe that weird zombie movie five years ago. I am legend. Yeah. Based on the Richard Mathis and novel, I am legend. Great book made into a fantastic film in the 70s called the Mega Man starring Charles and Heston, one of my favorite actors. It's pretty weird interpretation of the book,

actually, not at all, like the book. So also made into a film, sorry, Vincent Price called the last man on Earth in the 50s. And then there was also like, night of the comet, I believe, is a kind of weird interpretation of it. The Smith version was weird, but had some good scary moments.

It has some good, yeah. It had the apocalypse kind of right. So what's your feeling? So I'm like, oh, mixed, I'm like, yes, I love it. All I see in the trailer, first of all, it's got a beard. Yeah, and it's just a old bill, bill, bill, pulmon, president. But Jeff Goldblum kind of running around,

like I tried to warn them, I mean, it's just gonna be, that's gonna be deeply satisfying. Like it seems like it also has another B movie arc. Like it's just sort of, it's my guess is it's like the real mothership shows us. Yeah, that's the thing. Like there's absolutely nothing it can be except that. Well, they're like, hey, we sent those guys to take over your planet and they never, we never heard from them. It's kind of great that you can wait like 20 years and just make the same movie again. Yeah. It won't be different. It won't be that different.

It's personal. Yeah, exactly. And the aliens are like, we met our match on Earth. Yeah. And we now we figured out how not to get a virus. Right. And we still obviously they got a transmission. The last thing they got, and this is what's going to happen.

Right. The last thing they got before all the ships blew up was like, they got like the virus. Yeah. Had it been uploaded. Maybe it disabled this whole race for 20 years. This whole alien race was floating in space because these virus had been transmitted back up.

We're gonna get the back story. Yeah, we're gonna learn all about, we're gonna, there's gonna be a leader. We're gonna meet the leader of the alien. We'll see this. You know what, they're gonna make us wait until the, there's another one coming after this too. They did, I think they booked two at once.

Are you serious? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna bet. Third one, I think they booked two at once. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm gonna bet, third one they go to the planet to dream. It is, I mean, just get doubled up on the next day. How about this? Let me throw a plot twist out to you. They will blow your fucking mind. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.

All right, so the aliens come, they attack again. Okay, okay, okay. The world now is unified piece on the whole planet. Oh yeah, well, but also have a world army. World army. Militrized, yeah. Well, we we use their technology to build which is illustrating in the trailer We use the alien technology to build better, you know military technology. We've become the galactic empire. We've become the Race of aliens. Yeah, we're trying to yeah, I hope we can look in the mirror like what we say after We do we can't but then we discover a

what we say after what we do. We can't, but then we discover a lot of kids playing with balls. Sure. In this and then the mother shit. Yeah. Yeah. That's not looking for slack. John this shit better like there better be a giant disc in sky like that shadow. I want to see the shadow for like five straight minutes with no shit. I just I was a shadow creeping and don't ever show the fucking shit. Oh, the the shadow for like five straight minutes with no shit. I just want you to shout out creeping and don't ever show the fucking shit. Oh, the subwoofer. I'm like, explode. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That shit is going to happen. A dog barking. Yeah. I mean cat, cat scratching dog barking birds, flapping, grandma, dropped cookies. Maybe a flag. Oh, definitely. A flag that's that. A flag that's that's that. A flag that's that's that's that. A flag that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that Oh, definitely a flag that's the shadow. The shadow creeps over at the American flat. Or they

it probably the American flag so be like an international flag of a total unity. Yeah, it falls down. Maybe this is the real like the backbone of the story is like maybe unity isn't that great. Oh, probably not. But so then because what it turns out is like you need diversity to defeat the aliens. Several different types of viruses, not just one. Okay, but here's the thing. So, so then they finally get up to the mothership. Maybe let's say we're not at the end of the film, but we're like 30 minutes from the end.

And in the mothership, they find Will Smith. He's running the whole operate. No, no, they captured him. And they're using his brain to control, like to help them with the strategy for taking over the earth, because he knows earth. You don't like this twist?

No, it's just a reminder of there was a really bad one where the aliens came and sucked everybody up and like started to replace them. It battle of all the angelists are one of those. Okay, that is a bad move. I'm saying they got just Will Smith hooked up just was to the main computer in the mother ship. Can it be Will Smith using his brain and his memories to to figure out how to beat the humans? Could it be like fresh Prince era? No, it's Will Smith. It's regular Will Smith. All right. I mean, from his character for the movie who's by the way, I don't know like fresh prince era. No, it's Will Smith. It's regular Will Smith. All right.

He's character for the movie who's, by the way, I don't know anybody's name from Independence Day. No, it's no, I don't know. I don't know. Actually, no, by the actor, it's like Bill Paul. Bill Paul, but was that? The magnetist is chiming in here.

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Patterns. It wasn't there. There was numbers. He had num three years. Yeah. There was, but there was also a show with like a kid. It was called like, and key for Sutherland was in it. It was on Fox.

It was called like, Marker is your, yeah was in it. It was on Fox, it was called like, Marker, is there a thing? Yeah, he could kind of see all the things that was, there's also, there's one of Netflix where it's like the, everyone, there's like the autistic kid. Oh, it's the eight, if the eight. Yeah. It's called, the hateful eight or something.

No, it's not that, it's nice. Yeah, or something like that. We can see, he can see cell phone signals. Oh, no, that's a different thing. Yeah. All right, we gotta see he can see cell phone signals. Oh, no, it's a different. Yeah. All right, we got to talk about 2015. Okay, fine. So let's talk about 2015.

So start it in January. Yeah. Let's talk about the worst of 2015. What are the worst things that happened in 2015? I'm thinking. Trump. Trump is bad. Bad for American bad.

Is she bad? Bad for you and bad for America extremely bad for the current state of the media industry right like just it's an unavoidable drug. He definitely exposes two things are our insatiable desire to put to publish anything or to show anything that we think will get people to look at it and also our Powerlessness in the face of a strong socially savvy Pursedality, I mean, he's able to create such an enormous volume of content now at a moment because they're just one of our best Content creators this and there was it you didn't actually have no he's great like you could fire Should hire him and have him write for their blog.

You could fire an entire, like three quarters of Buzzfeed and just replace them with. His antics are enough. Yeah. I think we got a little more to kill like a little bit of history. It's very exciting. Thank you Paul. Oh, we double up a little bit too.

Cheers. Cheers. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's claim it to 2015 to a great year a great Trumpi year. Trumpi year. So anyhow, but yeah, he's an animal from hell, but he's a great content creator. Yeah, podcasts are good sometimes. I got wind chimes at the house up in our mug. I don't think it's how you say it. You put them wrong. And anyhow, I thought, but we got a wind chime. We are monk is Native American. Yeah.

Magnus asked. He's Swedish. All this is all fine. But I thought we got we win chimes that don't sound creepy. Oh really? I expected there. They're called like the chimes of Jupiter or something. Oh really? They're like quite beautiful. The Neil Pert. Yeah. Chimes of Russia. What is that going to happen? No, when when pro rock bands start making their own. That's a whole business right there. It's like that's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get a regular job. Perth here. Uh, you know, he's retiring. I know. I know. I just we I was talking with Canadian sister to huge bomber. Uh, you know, Michael Shane, who I mentioned earlier,

huge rush fan. That's his other really Star Wars and Rob's a Regidore see those together. No, what a real shocker and a rate but Do you like Progrock? You're I mean you like actually I love I love some Progrock I have some knowledge of it. Yeah, I was actually just talking to Friend of mine and we were talking about the Genesis record, the Lamlyze down a Broadway. That's a great album. You know the record?

By the time. It's an incredible. It's like a triple, the first album. The first album is good and then the second album you're like, guys, what happened here? Do you mean, sorry, I'm chewing some ice? Do you mean in that album? It's actually a double album. It's a triple album. Well, no album? It's actually a double album. It's a triple album.

Well, no, three sides live is a triple album. No, I think that the Landless down Broadway is three records. Well, it's at least two CDs. Anyway, that's what I know. Here's what I know. I don't think that any part of it is weak. I think after Carpenter Crawler's... You know a hell of better that I do.

I've listened to it a couple times. I'm not like an expert on the early classes. I mean, I really, Genesis is one of these touchstone bands where it kind of contains everything. It's like way too pretentious. Had Peter Gabriel became super commons. And then you know, became super pop. And then there was this ascendancy of Phil Collins, who now who then became a terrible ironic joke for everyone and then experienced a resurgence.

You know, do we tell you about this Phil Collins at one point retired to just focus on his hobby of at the study of the, uh, Alamo and the best. He's really into the Alamo. Yeah. And the, uh, and the famous battle. See, I like Phil Collins a lot. I really do. I just sort of feel. It's like a really bitter guy though. I, but he really likes the Alamo. Like he's allowed to be bitter. Bill Collins may want to be the hell he wants. You know what's cool about Bill Collins though? Like there is a vibe throughout his music. It's like, you know, he's been wrong by somebody.

Yeah. He wants to get revenge. Yeah. I mean, if you listen, by the way, Bill Collins, I'm not saying this ironically, wrote some really fucking good pop songs. Oh, it just soundtrack to a certain era. There's like the, there's like the drone machine

in the early 80s, and then there's this part in the mid 80s where everything was just like, and that was him. It's an amazing horn. Yeah, no, no, he did that. Is that a horn? Yeah, that's that little drone horn. He did a lot.

Oh, I'm not thinking. I think it's a suit. Oh, I guess so. But that's like, you know, you're doing like, that's like a little jazz trumpet. That's like tower of power. Yeah, no, without that. That's like a rubber palmer. Yeah, I'm so. But that's like, you know, you're doing like, that's like a little jazz trumpet. That's like tower power. Yeah, I'm unable to see. Robert Palmer is the name of the guy.

He was into fucking. Yeah. So Collins was like, he's in the cry. He got fucked over. Yeah. That was the difference between those. I love those, those, those, like, Phil Collins face on them. Like, what are you supposed to do with this face?

I mean, like, uh, face value. Yeah. Exactly. Like, here's a record that is like, Phil Collins you supposed to do with this face? I mean, like, uh, face value. Yeah, exactly. Like, here's a record that is like, full calls face, and it's called face value. And then they're like about face too. Uh, no, no, thanks. I, okay. It's a great record though.

Oh, face value is a great record. Face value, that has in the air tonight, don't it? Yeah, in the air tonight, which Laura and I've had like, I dozens of conversations about, I wore that cassette out like in you know 19 whatever. I mean I think it's now it's like everybody's into it but like it's still a really really good song. It's a really good song. Nothing like it. Well you know that song there's nothing like that song. No and it changed I mean it also was the soundtrack on Miami Vice.

He was the weekend of his era in a lot of ways you know. He came into the pop world. He was this kind of like you know it was mellow it was sexy. Yeah he was. I'm a little angry. Yeah you could tell he'd been world. He was this kind of like, you know, it was mellow. It was sexy. Yeah, he was I'm a little angry. Yeah, you could tell you've been drinking. He was pretty edgy stuff. I mean that I don't know There's that missing. He would appear in movies too. Like there was a Miami vice. He's in Miami vice. He was in something else. He was in this movie like a there a lot of like those 80s Noir films and they'd have like a scene where a band was playing in a bar. Yeah. And it would be Phil Collins. I think we're not talking about 2015 right now. All right, let's get back to 2015. Let me get back. I have four year olds.

I spent the entire year listening to the Frozen soundtrack. So I'm pretty broken. Let me tell you about Frozen. I've tried to get Zelda to watch it. Now I've seen it several times because I'm like, maybe Zelda will watch TV. It's very beautiful. I mean, anything that's animated makes me cry. Like you could just put anything.

You put any animated characters in any situation. I'm going to start crying. But frozen, you know, it's a story. It's a confusing story. It is very puzzling. I guess it's a puzzling sort of setup. Yeah. Parents are maybe dead.

You see, that's what you're not. Disney typically kills parents I'm a parents, but they left this one open I guess like they could be on the South seas right now No, they're probably in the sequel. We're gonna get a little bit of that back So maybe maybe way back home and the whole family will be together at the end of it I bet there's gonna be like yeah, I guess the thing they kind of have to do it They have like cookie island characters. That's what I think I'm gonna bring up Sebastian's gonna show up

I'd animate a 3d Sebastian. I's what I think I'm gonna bring up Sebastian's gonna show up at an a 3D Sebastian. I think what they should really fucking good idea. Oh, the parents and little mermaid. Does the time, that's a Disney movie, right? Is the timeline of Little Mermaid can it track with the closer and can only can. That would be a ridiculous stitch.

Especially if the Little Mermaid came out and then just immediately froze to death. That's even bigger than, well, she can't go to the cold areas, but they, you know, like a park or whatever. No, I know. But what's interesting is like that does a bigger reveal than Will Smith in Independence Day 2 when he's running the alien computer.

Well, you know what happens here is then the snowman from Frozen, which is I think it was played by Josh Gad. Yeah. Olaf has to go to the hot tropical area, which now we're back into that's where he's singing about summer Yeah, what if what if Just put your mind put your head around this just get your head around this concept, okay? They run into Ariel is that her name? Yeah, Ariel the little Sebastian and all of the under the C people right a little mermaid

And they end up Traveling to the beauty in the beast castle somehow. Oh, yeah, this is a nice beauty in the beast are there Oh, and they all help the parents get back to whatever the country is called the cold country Yeah, I mean people's minds would be fucking. Oh, yeah, I think the pot can't air the tea pots there Yeah, just hanging out with Olaf my god, I fucking would be. I mean, you would be in there, to keep the tea pots there. Yeah, just hanging out with Olaf. Yeah. At any rate, so frozen twos,

that coming in 2016? Oh, probably. You know, all right, so Trump was bad. Trump was bad. Their whole Republican thing was bad. Still bad. Still going.

ISIS was bad. That was a bad one. Like the enslavement, torture, and killing of civilian populations, the killings. ISIS, October 2015. It was a great year for racists. It's like a great year for racism and gun makers. Yeah, like they actually had an amazing year. Like if you're a racist, 2015 was actually this very relaxing year

for you, because you're like, look, you can finally say what you feel. Yeah, you really could, they were loud, they were loud. Yeah, better year. Like you're like, for races who are like, who've been secretly thinking that all Mexicans are rapists? Yeah.

Trump finally gave them the chance to say it out loud. Yeah, and they've all been kind of like, oh, Obama's a secret Muslim, and now they have like real Muslims to hate. You know, they can be like, oh, look at you, you're wearing a job, I'm going to. Let's get you. Yeah, I'm going to spin on you. And now that like can be like, oh, look at you, you're wearing a job. I'm going to let's get you. Yeah, I'm going to spin on you.

And now that like Trump is like, let's ban all Muslims, it's all just feels right to this. I'm just there time. When you living in New York City and you imagine, I live in in Dittmiss Park, like everyone in my neighborhood, like like like 30% are Bangladesh.

I like, I can't, in the course of getting to work, I probably am utterly dependent on like five Muslim people and then getting home late at night, there are no other people driving my cabs. You can't be racist, you can't be racist. Yeah, you're living in a racist free zone. I mean, no, the New York is, you know, well. Well, the New York City is really funny

with the racism though, because people are just kind of like, they're casually racist in a way here that's weird, right? They'll be like, oh, you know Jews. I actually confronted a guy to Delhi one night at like one in the morning. We were getting like after bar sandwiches in my neighborhood and I was like, actually it might have been, this may not have been after, this may have been in the day now that I think of it. I may be misremembered, we used to go there a lot after drinks, but this guy was like, yay, I chewed him down.

And I was like, I'm Jewish, and that's an offensive thing to say. He's like, no, it's not. I got a lot of Jewish friends. It's like, my daughter actually refers to people should be like, oh, it's that white lady. Like, it's not the default for her, which is kind of cool.

I like that. Like, the whites are the weird ones. Yeah, like, it's just not even weird. She just knows that if you're going to identify a person, she's like, Hey, it was a white lady. She was Bob about like, she's, she doesn't see that norm purely because of statistics. I mean, New York is just a place that is not at any rate. New York's great. So let's just, but let's just say that race has had a banner year, red letter year, really good year for racism, school shooters,

shooters in general, match shooters, devastating. Mass shooters. Yeah, I good year for gun manufacturers, great year for gun manufacturers. Sales skyrocketed after the shooting in San Bernardino. Yeah, it's just so, but my year, a couple of years back, actually, my wife's, one of my wife always college friends was a police woman. It was a guy with mental issues that he was being brought in and he just killed her.

So it's just sort of like, I think what's weird is just being in a country where one degree of separation from, I have another friend who got shot in Atlanta just walking down the street. Yeah, I had that person been carrying a gun that never would have been shot. They were just shot in the dark. Like literally it was a shot in the dark. I think it's can stop a bad guy with a gun as a good guy with a gun. Yeah, or my friend, I guess, and her shoulder. So she's just like, yeah, it's all right.

No, it's just like, yeah, it's just like small person. She's good here for guns, bad here for people. Yeah, I just like, I think it's just, I think what's weird for me is the conversation is very political when it actually should be personal. Like the conversation should just be around guns. It's like, yeah, people in our direct orbit, like you're one to three degrees of separation

from someone who died needlessly. And I think, yeah, I think it's just like the argument's always like, uh, the criminals are going to get the guns anyhow. Yeah. I just like, we can't like, but no one is having a fucking adult conversation. That's not been increasing the criminals have the guns because they bought them legally. Like they just bought the guns like a regular person.

It's like, come on, it's enough. Like we're not, everyone knows you're not going to be able to put the monster back in the box entirely. And everybody knows that like people are going to probably continue to own guns in America. It's just, I'm willing to go with this. Like let's make it that you have to be a criminal to get the guns or whatever.

If that's how it's going to be, like, you got to really work your ass off and go through criminal channels. If you, like, let's say you have criminal intent. I want to kill somebody or I want to rob somebody. You're like, oh, I can go to Kmart. They sell guns there. Oh, no, I can't get a gun at Kmart anymore.

Right. Okay, I think we've made it a little bit harder for you to get a gun. I don't care if you're a criminal or not. We've made it slightly harder for you to get the gun. I don't care if you're a criminal or not. We've made it slightly harder for you to get the gun. We've definitely made it harder for like other people to get gun. So it's like if we have any barrier to owning the guns, I don't mean the people can't have them.

They can have them. But it's just like if we make it a little bit more rigorous and institutionalized on like how you get a gun. This is what I was saying, that would be an adult conversation. Yeah, it's like it's like fuck, then just do that. Let's what I was saying. That would be an adult conversation. Yeah, it's like, it's like, fuck, then just do that. Let's just see what happens.

Yeah, no, that's a thing. If it's bad, if it's bad, if everybody's just getting shot to death, consuling now because you couldn't get all the guns you needed as quickly as you needed them, then like, all right, a couple years. A couple years, we'll just roll back.

But statistically speaking, it seems that like, I was just giving it a try. I'll take one month. If we have one month where there's like an extra 100 shooting above the average. So then the other thing is that, sorry, not to rant about this, but I was talking to something

and they're like, well, you know, mass shooting is defined as four people are killed. I'm like, well, what if four people are just injured? And they're like, it's not a mass shooting. Okay, so if they're just a bad shot, we shouldn't be worried. We're just like, if they're bad shots, no problem. Shoot as much as you want. If you're just gonna wing somebody, it's okay.

But if you're killing people, now we've got a problem. Yeah. It's like, what is the logic there? It's like, I think we want to limit the amount of guns being fired in any direction towards anybody for any reason. So, anyhow, 2015. When did the Apple Watch come out? I think 2015.

Yeah. I think 2015. I think it was a 2015. Magnus, can you tell us was it in 2015? Nobody can dare. I feel like it was. I feel like it was Jesus. If it was in 2015, a lot of happened in 2015.

It not only did a lot happen in 2015, but no one cares about the Apple Watch anymore. I mean, I feel like it's gonna be a Christmas present for some people. For like 50 people. I mean, I see people with the Apple Watch they're looking at it. We thought it, if it was any other company,

it's kind of annoying now. People with the Apple Watch are kind of annoying now that I think of it. Magnus went, did it come out? Do we have the date? His internet's race though. He, if you had an Apple Watcher to know this, are you? It's true, it's just like Siri.

When did you come out? I am a cat. I don't know what Siri says, actually, I don't have Siri. Siri is like, don't sass me, owner. Yeah, that kind of thing. I really, I was. Siri is like, her personality is like the genie from I dream of genie.

You know, it's good as the Google maps voice that woman is wrong to have an erection when she gives you direction. It's not wrong. I mean, it's not normal. A April April of 2015. So this is this is so, this is what's so crazy. Okay, like first of a lot has happened to both of us since April of 2015. Yeah, yeah've a lot has gone. We both had really exciting years Very exciting years we should talk a little bit about that, but holy shit because it feels like it was forever ago The Apple watch came out. Oh my god ever ago

We're not just forever ago like it actually feels like it came out around the same time as the first iPhone Like it's like that was 2006. I mean Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's blows my mind I'll let that long go. I mean that in terms of like six seven months ago That's weird let me be we you don't watch a lot of like broadcast TV right you watching yeah I don't like watch yeah, I don't like we watch I watch Netflix. I watch stuff like that I don't watch so I think they watch modern family. I know, but you're probably not seeing that live you're not seeing that many ads No, I have the hulu commercial free of

Yeah, and even if even if you did have who you see that one like frickin' effort Toyota 36,000 times you get a commercial free I just so tired of subscribing I say something that extra three bucks or whatever it is. It changes your whole, you need to get experience. I already have the criterion collection and don't watch that. I don't need another thing. You gotta pull a disc out. You have an undisqued.

No, no, I have the Hula. You can buy the whole criterion collection through Hula. But it's on Hula. It's on Hula. I don't have commercials. No, but if you, if you, if you have a Hula subscription, you just watch it. It's just, it's called Hula.

A lot of things were wrong. You gotta buy it. I want to, I just, I you have a hulu subscription, you just watch it. Oh, it's just, it's called hulu. A lot of things were wrong. You don't buy it. I want to, I just, I want there to be no more media for like a week, just a week. Anyway, so, um, go to, go to a, go relax, go vacation. I know. That's a good idea. Go to the mountains where you have no reception. Oh, I'd be really good. I tell you, I was on a road today in near my home.

Wherever that is. No reception. Yeah. It was unbelievable. I was like, anything could happen. Anything. Yeah. I don't know about it.

And I'm you care. You could live there. Right. Like nobody able to find five minutes later, five minutes later, I was back online. I was like, I got you a Twitter. It's a bit of a, you could go on top of like a little mountain up there and just hang. We're actually on top.

We're kind of high on a mountain. Oh, are you? Yeah. Anyhow. So, so where are you saying? Apple watch. I just, that's a the mountain. Oh, are you? Yeah. Anyhow. So, so where were you saying Apple Watch? I just that's a weird one. I don't care. It cares about it. The gadgets are over. Gadgets are played. That kind of thing. Thinking about gadgets. Thinking about like the stuff is too small now.

I know, but you got this as a company. We're literally had Johnny I'm doing that. Like we looked at whatever it is. It's creepy voice. We looked at like 30,000. But that's a bullshit. Look at their design. All their design is fucking atrocious now. I mean, you saw there's been a lot of backlash. we looked at whatever it is, this creepy voice, doing like we looked at like 30 thousand of the other designs, all their designs are fucking atrocious now. I mean, you saw, there's been a lot of backlash, but finally somebody's like, hey, wait a second, something's wrong with Apple.

The battery pack for the iPhone. Oh, I love it. Which looks like he was like, have an iPhone inside of it, I know their iPhone. Yeah, so great. The the charging, the mouse that charges on the bottom, where the cable goes into the bottom,

so you can't use the mouse while you're charging it. Yeah. Because it made too much sense to have it stick on the top and just be like a wire. No, that thing. No, that thing is such a crime against design. It crazy. It should be. It's an obviously.

It's an obviously the charges sticking out of the iPad. The iPad Pro as a product at all. It's such a thing. I've read them. I got the iPad Pro. I'm like, this is a ridiculous, like what you're doing is ridiculous. The battery pack is such a crime against design. It should be charged and I started to listen iOS 7 I said I was talking about their design. I mean that that visual design was a complete fucking shit show and it's continued

I you know, but you know, I still use an Android phone. So actually it still looks pretty good. I love him. What Android phone are you using? Like a Moto X from three years ago. It's actually become a professional liability. People are like, what is that? Just getting it from. I'm gonna get a new phone. I just, I've been updated to Marshmallow. I know who the hell knows. It's updated to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, done. I just, they win. Okay, like I'm just gonna, I got my Mac. Yeah, I found.

I got my iPhone. They win. I don't know why you had Nandridge fun to begin with. What was the kind of thing? Because I just wanted to be with everybody else in the world instead of with them. I can't, everyone's like, oh hey, I want to invite you to this cool beta of this new product.

And I'm like, well, this is only for iOS. I don't want to hurt your feelings. I just can't sign up for it because I'm on Android. And they literally write back and emails, and they're like, huh. Yeah. Like everyone is just shocked and upset. I'm tired of it.

It's sort of like the same reason that like, people are always a little freaked out if you're not, like if someone's upper middle class, they're just like, oh my God, what do you mean you're not upper middle class? I kind of am. I don't want it. It's a terrible conversation.

What are you saying? We're lighter. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I mean, that's a one that I have a mortgage. I have a mortgage. We all have mortgages. But that's the way thing is like having mortgages. It owns anything in the apartment. A kind of wealth, no, too. Well, it's like a, it's like a facsimile of wealth. It's like a projection of, yeah. I mean, it's like somebody, somebody trusts you enough to loan you money.

That's all it says, really. City bank, trust me. City bank, great bank. Check them out. They do a fantastic ATM service. You can walk up to a teller if you need to. Anyibank, great bank, check them out. They do fantastic ATM service. You can walk up to a teller if you need to. Anyhow, so let's get back to 2015. We're way off topic. We're not talking about your personal wealth. Let me check mint. Let's start about good things in 2015. Okay. What good happened in 2015? What was good about 2015? What were things that you loved

in 2015? Thank you. I mean, I don't know about you, but I just spent the entire year kind of like bouncing between various career issues and my children. So that was really the focus in the world, what was good. Woo! You really struggling with this. I just, it's hard to think in terms of sequences, right? Yeah.

What was good? What was good in the world? Mad Max Fury Road. I was okay. I didn't have the same religious experience. You know what? I feel the same way. I thought it was a very good movie.

I wasn't like, oh my God. Filming games been changed, right? You know, there's the same thing too. You know what I remind me of is Merrill Mill Gibson before he had his complete meltdown made that weird Mayan movie. It was just like a big chase. Actually, Apocalypse.

You're talking about Apocalypse, though. A big Apocalypse, though. And I think that that movie was actually post his meltdown. Oh, no, I think it was made. And then he melted down. And exactly the moment it came out, Saturday Night Live did, like they recut the trailer

with lots of anti-Semitic stuff. It was pretty good. Yeah, that's right. It was just this little quiz. What does this have to do with? No, they're just like another real like there's like a classic chase movie a poca-lipped out. Yeah, I've never seen it They're just running through the jungle. I don't see Mel gives me because I feel that he's not on your side wrong my paper No, no actually listen. Mel made a lot of great films. A lot of great films, conspiracy theory is one that's overlooked. You know, very, very good. I have an unusual film.

I mean, think about this cast for a second. Mel Gibson, Julia Roberts, and Patrick Stewart as the bad guy. I agree. So fucking good. Yeah, and we're also Mel Gibson's, you know, the great thing about the movie is like he lives in an apartment covered with tin foil. He's living in his like, he's like, uh, like some movie guy read, uh, cosmic trigger or something. He was like, this is people who are into this. Like, what are they like?

Oh, they put for they wear foil hats, right? And that actually, any other point is it's like a film that is based on the greatest conspiracy theories. The most ridiculous conspiracy theory. It's really that one is no longer in the in the in the in the camera. I don't know why it's so. Talk about bells. I can all the lethal weapons are great. Now, okay, wait.

So what good? What I don't know what was good in 2015? Uh, that was really good. Fall at four. It's pretty good. Yeah, I'm not really. I'm a game. And wow.

This is tough. It's depressing to say. I'm really r, I'm a game. And wow, this is tough for me. It's depressing to say, I'm really racquering my brain right now. What happened in the world? It was Magnus. And what happened in 2015? That was good. Did Magnus have a baby?

No, no, no babies for him. What if 2015 was a bad year? It is a bad year. We want to really have to get what it's going on. I think 2015 is a clunker. Oh man, 2016 is an election year. Yeah, is that good or bad?

Bad. Guaranteed action. Exhausting. Well, they're gonna limit, they're gonna trim down on the amount of debates we have to watch though. Oh, just. There's a debate tonight.

Here's, it just was right. I know, I just imagine like the Hillary Clinton, like I knew when I went to law school that I wanted to. Well, we're in. be in a phone for Hillary. It doesn't actually, I mean, who knows. Got 2015 was a shitty year. Women totally under attack.

Gamergate. Because if you just, because if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, if you just, like got bored with it. It was a really bad, it was. Ever know it's doing layoffs, Twitter did some layoffs. Everybody just drop boxes killing mailbox.

I feel that Twitter really got to an exhausting place. I feel that everyone is just basically running a campaign for their ideology at this point. Yeah. A lot of brands, a lot of brand, personal brand. A lot of it, a lot of personal brand building. You know, it's a dark time in the world. Oh, tomorrow, March 15th.

I launched a company. Oh yeah, you launched post-light. I wrote a whole issue of Business Week. You did. That was cool. You wrote a whole issue of Business Week. And we did a very cool digital version of it. Yeah, that was great. There were some upsides for me personally.

There were some content, some good content was out there. There was good content. There's good art. Adrian Chan wrote some good stuff. Adrian Chan had some great stuff. Oh, how good. Here. There was good stuff. John Herman did some good. John Herman wrote some great stuff on media. Yeah. I do feel this 2015 was the year that we started to we we started to I think the process of beginning to come to our senses on like content. Yeah. I think it was the beginning of the end of a lot of shit that we ever had. I feel like that, like, yeah. It hasn't happened yet.

No, but I do think that like there's going to be a great, great reckoning. I think everyone's just like, this is too complicated and I'm not making any money. So why am I propping up 35 different ad networks in order to lose money? Right. I think that there's gonna be a thing that's gonna happen in 2016 that will be a gocker imploded like twice. Gokker did not farewell in 2015.

I mean, obviously it's a little close for you, but I don't know what's up with the whole Vox world. They're explaining stuff. They really are. They'll explain this body. I don't know. I saw the post had a press release today or yesterday, the Washington Post. Yeah, no Jeff. They're crushing it out of control,

out of control. Good. And then it showed other their competitors in Buzzfeed and Vox looked a little bit down to me, but I didn't go into detail. I just like, I do think that 2016, I hope the 2016 will be the year that quality begins to be to be important again Well, you're gonna you're gonna do some work along this line. So I have that I have an interesting. I don't know I don't know you know what I think it's not Paul anything's possible. It's a wide up and feel it out there I have a good feeling about Josh the Polskies 2016. I really do well say this I can only spend so much time relaxing. No, you got it.

The fingers are moving. The thing is, the thing with all those is... No, no, no, no, can't confirm or deny that. It sounds like an interesting concept. Stuff's got to happen. The thing with all those things is they're hockey stick is over, right? They are what they are. All these big new media networks.

I think, yeah, and I think that there's definitely like a concentration of, there is like a clear concentration of brands going towards very large conglomerates, very large brands, and I think that's, it is what it is. I think the bad is made, right? If Disney or NBC or whoever needs to reach a new audience, like a younger, younger demo, they have the brands in insight that they need to reach that younger demo. I do think that there are a lot of people. Right, I forgot about Fusion. Yeah, all right. I feel like there are a lot of people who

probably feel pretty under service by the brands that they have in front of them and that the kind of stories that they're being told. I think that's true. I think it's time, somebody needs to get in there and tell some new stories. I mean, if you look at actually business, we have this thing, Lauren, I would just talk to this they have this thing today So jealousy list every good lady this and all the editors and writers who are associated with Bloomberg dot com and business week Are like here's stuff that we are wish we had done this year, but we hadn't we didn't do yeah, but like 80% of it was the New York Times the Newer, or the New York Times magazine. Yeah. So, you know, to me, that's like a problem in my industry where there should have been

some other stuff. You know, there's a lot of other stuff. I know we're running out of time, but this is actually fascinating to me, right? Okay. Because there is a narrow definition of quality, and you know, at the same time, the concept of quality is urgent. Like, it really matters to be able to say, like this is a goodness isn't. You've been an editor for years and years,

you know how important that is. At the same time, the concept of quality and the things that, like the tent of just pure weirdness that I always thought was kind of a great thing about the internet is you'd read, I'd read something about a woman who was like a dancer, but was in a wheelchair and she was doing wheelchair dancing. And it would be like the best thing I would read all about a woman who was like a dancer, but it was in a wheelchair, and she was doing wheelchair dancing, and it would be like the best thing I would read all week.

Yeah. And the excellence there had no, because there was no form around it and no structure, it basically went unrecognized, unless it got kind of like aggregated in some way. Right. And I feel like we've moved on from that. Like there's nothing left to aggregate

except other sources of aggregating aggregators. And then there's these like quality things that are the same quality things we've had for literally a hundred years. Yes. And literally. I mean, it just seems like, it seems like there's more great stuff out there,

but that part of the world where like, this was like the function of Tumblr blogs in the early days, right, this is the function of all that stuff, was to find those voices. It doesn't feel like we're urgently going for that anymore. I just think that we had this idea, you know, that you'd be able to find all that stuff in your like network,

that like your network would help you find. Yeah, Facebook. But what it turns out is that like the network is gained by the people who need maximum exposure. It's true. What it turns out is that like the network is game by the people who need maximum exposure. It's true. What it turns out is like your friends aren't that great at sharing. They're great at taking someone else's storyline and like

playing up a role. Right. Buzzfeed storyline is like what happens on social. Right. And they're good at riffing. They're good at like being outraged. Yeah. Are we friends on LinkedIn?

I don't know, but we should get that. We should get that going. I really like to add you to my name. That's one of my favorite memes. I feel like I saw this in 2015, maybe a predates it. Yeah. But the LinkedIn meme where it's like the setup is completely insane. Yeah.

It's like you complete Super Mario. And then it's like, I'd like to add you to my name. So I know we're going to add you to my new work. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe a good way to go out on 2015 is talk about like, what were the memes that we like?

Well, let's get to that. But let's say with the one thing, I want to have the one that we're going to wrap Magnus. We're going to wrap the one good thing that we can agree on, uh, gay marriage became, uh, yeah, became essentially legal in this country. You know, like saying like, uh, which is saying like, interracial marriage became, became essentially legal in this country. You know what I'm saying? Like, what you're saying, like, interracial marriage became legal. It was just great for the perspective for everybody.

It was a real American moment. Everybody just was like, it was just huge. It was great to be in the middle of something like that in your life and realize that like, here's the line, here's this historical moment. Yeah. And up until here, here's this historical moment. Yeah. And up until here, there was this thing that sort of ruined all marriages.

Well, it was the sucky embarrassing piece of unfair law in this country. I think it was awesome. It's just great to see something that's evidence of progress. I agree. Like just to be like, oh, he thinks can change. Well, this to me, it's, so this is, and this is, I'll say this on the, well, let me can talk about, we can quickly talk about memes, but my optimistic view,

2015 was a bad year, but I think what we saw a lot of it in 2015, my grand unified theory of all this stuff is that like a lot of what we're seeing is a byproduct of the death of right wing, product of the death of right wing, Christian right conservative thinking that is outmoded and unfair to a large swath of the populace and that what we're really seeing with like a lot of the shootings and the racism and that just like general sort of like fever, the fever pitch of all of this is like these are the we're in like the death throws of little non progressive thought. And I don't mean progressive to say like, you necessarily subscribe to some political party or they're lying, but like, I do think we are moving towards a more progressive, more liberal,

more open. And I don't mean liberal in the sense of like politics. I mean, just in a way of thinking, a more open, more liberal, more understanding, more genuine, smarter, more human way of existing, and that what Trump is and what the shootings are and what ISIS is, is all a desperate, sad, pathetic, hopeless attempt to cling onto something that is going to go away. And so to my view on all of it is like,

you are temp, that shit is temporary, you're fucking dead, Like you're over. And this is the death, the death, the death, rattle. I'm a pessimistic person, but at some level, everything you're saying there, so I believe as well. It just feels like, we are, it feels like the actions of ISIS for all we're talking about them

is a threat and a terrorist threat. It are the death throws of, you know, and maybe that's, you know, come back and talk about what we've said here in a thousand years. And I actually, to the AI bot overlords that will analyze this and figure out what are they should torture us. We're not gonna lock this up in the air.

Yeah, we'll be able to upload our soul to singularity. To the central, well, to be an alien. Maybe the aliens are future, are the future of us, the aliens. Yeah, the aliens at AI. Yeah, yeah, who are us? Yeah, yeah.

I mean, what were the nine as well? It's like about memes real quick. What was the good social media of 2015? What was the best meme this year? Yeah, I brought it up. I can't really, I mean, like Grumpy Cat was out. We were done with Grumpy Cat. That's fucking old news, man.

What was the cat? It's like from that's fucking old news And what was the cat it's like from 2012? What was what were the mutated? Is there a hot was there a hot meme? Was there a broken animal? Doge now? That's old when did little Bob happen old man? Oh, man in the past There are no new memes Killer the hotline bling, hotline bling. That was a meme. That was okay.

That was good. Him dancing. Oh, there was also a very funny situation. Vincent Vega was superimposed on a lot of things from Pulp Fiction. The Vincent Vega meme was interesting. It was a cool throwback. It was fun.

Great for Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, it was fun for John Travolta, fame Scientologist in General Creep. There weren't a lot of creepies this time. God, dammit, Topolski. Not a lot of creeps. I, you brought it up. I did, I did need to take your anger out of me.

I need good memes, listeners of this show. Well, you know what's huge was the thing that the dippers did. They, with the, with the, where they would like, they had the, the JPEG of the the whipper and you could just put whatever you wanted in it. Yeah, the thing is amazing. I know that was good. Dipper's social media is actually all done by bots.

It's but it's like but they're getting they're getting it right. No, that's a thing. I mean, that's they have hired some like amazing team of like Algerian programmers. I mean, I just think letting people put whatever they wanted into the carousel. When they did that, that was like obvious, obvious. Here's the thing, when they marbled the, so you're like, a hot mustard in Nutella,

that is disgusting. But when you dip grilled chicken in that and it call it paleo, call it whatever you want. That's frosty in the french fry. You know, the difference benefit, it was a good year called it Paleo. That's a frosty in the French fry. No, the Dipper's benefited. It was a good year because of Paleo. I thought that their whole meme, the whole meme with the baby.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where they dipped the baby. You could stop dipping and then it got dipped. Oh, then they did. Well, and then that was great. I mean, that was great. When they put the baby in peanut butter. Yeah, that was amazing. Yeah, well, they did the peanut butter one,

but then they did the peanut butter and jelly follow up. Oh, which to me was like the dunk in the dark for dippers, dunk in the dark. All right, anyhow, we got to wrap up. I wish we could talk more about this because there's a great year for dip. It was a good year for dippers. So we get good year for dippers, good year for gay marriage for this new show pattern. Does it give me on C8C? It's going to be good. It And actually, you know, the first sponsor. Dipper. Absolutely. But it's going to be a great year. But they're working it into the episode.

Excuse me. I'm losing my voice because I'm getting sick. I'm like a gravely sex guy. Yeah, let's do it. So listen, the thing that I really liked. No, the thing is, but the Dipper's pattern's integration is going to be amazing. Oh, when they go into the Dipper,

and they start spinning the dipters and doing the dip. See the pattern in the dipters in whipping. And they're just sitting there. It's Charles and Maria are sitting there. And it's just like. Maria do the dip. Oh, that is an amazing time.

I have no idea. Okay, so listen, we got a wrap up. I mean, this is, we can talk, look, we can talk about dipters all night. Oh, I mean, we should have. I mean, we a bastard. We're investors. So that's true full disclosure Yeah, full disclosure on 1.07 It's it's not really percentages. It's a different box. But yeah, different box. They're valuable I appreciate you granting me those you know, it's my it's my pleasure

I mean I I give out the bucks whenever I can't you know Dipper box is really probably one of the most important investment vehicles of 2016. My mantra is whip the dip spread the bucks. Yeah, well, you're living by that mantra. And anyhow, so I have some major announcements to make here. Okay. You're going to be part of a major, major announcement.

I'm looking forward to it. First off, this will be the last show of 2015, as I said at the beginning, because I'm taking a break. Yes. Oh, they feel Collins record. Just chime in in here boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, Yes. Oh, they feel Collins record. Just chiming in here. The little full Collins vibe just sliding right in.

The other big announcement is that Magnus is quitting. He's quitting as producer of tomorrow. He has a full-time job now that's taking up all of his energy, all of his passion. He's really good. He's pouring that into his day job, and unfortunately he won't be able to do tomorrow any longer. So two things.

It's yesterday for him, no. Wow. Now you went there, and it makes sense. It works really well. Really well. Magnus is leaving. We need to replace Magnus. So I'm on the hunt for a new podcast producer. Think of your life working hand in hand side by side with me to create the one of the greatest

Audio products of all time tomorrow So I'm looking for a new podcast producer tell your friends tell your enemies tell anybody you can and then Magnus is gonna I think when we return Magnus and I will do an exit interview. We will have a, he will be on the show. It's gonna be great. So get ready for that. It's a good accent too.

Because people believe, people, a lot of people think I've invented, I've made Magnus up. No. A lot of people think that Magnus is not a real person. He's a real person, right? He's crazy, very pro. Total pro. And we're sad to see him go.

Whatever media organization snatch Magnus off is should count itself lucky. The royal we are sad to see him go. But you know, time marches forward, you know, change is good. It really does. And I think it's, you know, Magnus is doing good things for himself. I think God's work. Yeah, I think that doing the Lord's work. Even though today it's yesterday on tomorrow, tomorrow, it's going to be tomorrow. That's fucking right. That's right. And that's a

great place to end it. Paul, thank you for coming on. It's great to be a part of 2015. Anything I can do to help all these two, you're already doing it. Magnus is just chimed in that people can send their resumes. We were having a heartfelt moment. The Magnus felt that was the right time. There are certain things I won't miss about Magnus, I guess, when I really get down to it. Magnus said, now's a great time to send your resumes to Magnus at tomorrowpodcast.com. And I agree, because Magnus and I will look at those together. We were in it. We're going to split a little brandy. We're going to review them during the show. Some snift. Get some sniffters. That's a good idea. That's maybe that's what we do is we

go over the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the hiring. Anyhow, Magnus at tomorrowpodcast.com, get him your resumes, get him the reasons why you should be the next producer. You must be in New York, that goes without saying. And you must be cool as hell. If you're Swedish, that does not hurt your chances. I will say that. I'd like to transition to another suite if it all possible. So that is something to think about if you're thinking about applying.

If someone from Vesteros, which is Vesteros is where Magnus is from. No, that's in Game of Thrones. No, it's where he's from. He's very, he's very defensive about it. He's from Vesteros in Sweden. He says it better than I do. Okay. But if you're from there, that would also be good.

What about employees from Kingsland? Although, I kind of hate the, I kind of hate the Vesteros accent, to be honest with you. It's a little, little gutter roll, little gutter roll from I taste. A little gutter-o from I taste. What about like somebody from King's Landing? Yeah. That's all part of Westero.

Could the King and, oh, you're right. What about from across the area? From Meliria or, no, as this is in Velliria? Yeah, there's one of those. Vellaria. Vellaria, right? Yeah. What are the other areas, this is all the slaves.

Where are the slaves are? Are you going to be from an area in on, do they have a name for the planet in Game of Thrones? What's it called? What's the planet called? The planet called. The planet called. The planet called Earth? They called Earth or something.

Maybe if you're from beyond the wall, but you're still good with podcasts. It's beyond the wall. Yeah. If you're like a wilding. Oh, wilding. A wilding, wilding, sorry. If you're a wilding, but you're also really good at pro tools. Totally makes sense.

Yeah, anyhow. We gotta wrap up. We gotta wrap up, Paul, thank you for doing this. I love doing this. Here's to a great 2016 for you. We're gonna, but this is gonna be a really good year. We gotta return and talk about 2016. We will, we'll do it.

Okay, good. That's our show for this week. We won't be back next week because I'm going on a little hiatus, but we will be back in January with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, even though there is a fray on the wire that connects your Christmas tree lights to the outlet

and some dried debris near it. And anything could happen. I'm sure it would be fine, but my God, that could be a terrible fight. Tina kissa smakars muntrån om lög Trömmen ska brina om ett annat liv Låt i tjärtans låg är läxt trös lag Låt oss hoppas att det snabbt blir dörr Mina minnen är som köstberg om min

Och det är min en som den flon Det är min indrädvärm Jag åt mig gråta och åt mig en bara i tre Och bränna mina pöcker som vi Jag ser fram att jag ser upp och jag är varm Det förflöktna tunnar upp som en mong för att tyra Råla libig bikertis di harmonie, med en verri harad levari.

Forja si, lokmi, kjenn, kan da tro, harja mordat først, finne en tis, ja ser firad, blinka her, fron mong balkong, en po mei, no ne, en stagra gong, Jag ser fyra blinka här från min balcom En på mig låna instakra gång Vi är många som är här på världens satt och vi dricker lite på att vi något var det kex. Det blåser på gärning i särits sju och vi gasar på gärna i bläst. Det är enligt att så många vill komma Trömmen ska brina om ett annat vill Ni visar några mål i går i dag Den kostaren har vi strädande

Miky 3 är en vitt mina drar Ni är din rädd i följd med ett övrars Mikitre är en vitt minna graf Du är min vitt minna eller funnit med du En delosel på min hälsa är tjugel Och lika såg man i haj min min min Kavtio minna spåsom var i par annorlunda Ubi morare i oljör och skattade såkorn Jaka hara os kan målar i det då Och det låter det svett av att skäms då

Jag ska göra några sista kalkin Och studera fördapet i ett experiment De förändringarna stöder teorin Så kan man den för att användas tillbind Jag har förnit några kapper i en grå Det är bort att glanda resten från stålman och kvart i Jag är tida dessa gamla främmen Som ni inte inte sämt i torgen Sej demonga s sekunder har jag på mig.

Innan din man förhimmar mig kommer att väka med mig för att hålla sig så. Att det redan är för sig inte att gå. Jag har akkat personliga artiklär. Jag har skrivit ett bred till vänlig vän Per laska hlara var han kanan lite tid Och sedan får det bli som blivit Jag går ner mellan synmsens fårda fram För att möta det är det som skrädar en sikt

I gyptom strott men väntar en sikt år Håtten fingrar på en sikt för en beroche Jag ska stilna alla stormar in i sköj Bara dynningar ska gomma i godan ur och I mitt sinne ska rå på menadur Vakar trädder på genisar i ett sikt Gå fram i råg, i nytt sin nedskår på en av dyr Vakert veta på geni sig ett svoje 1. Draw the line on the left side of the eye. 1. Draw the line on the right side of the eye. 1. Draw the line on the left side of the eye.

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