Toni and Ryan - CONFESSION: I've Been Scamming My Friends For Years

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

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I have defrauded my closest friends. I'm up thousands and thousands of euros. Hi, I'm Trudy from Adelaide, South Australia. Hi, I'm Michelle from New York, USA. Hi, my name's Christy from Presby in Scotland. And I'm pretty much podcast. Welcome to the Tony and Ryan podcast. My name is Ryan. This is Dr. Author Tony Lodge.

Hello. Can you please DM Tony, everyone, and say, there is really a podcast. It is a real show. Because I've just had somewhat of a bit of a breakdown of thinking, oh, is this all like, am I being Truman chose? She thinks that I am her doctor and that I just like interview her as the psychiatrist every day. And this whole thing is a ruse. So when she thinks she's going to work, she's just going into like as a patient going in for the day. And I'm just having a nice little day.

Torbs goes off to work and I just come here and spend my day with you guys. We order lunch sometimes. That's fun, you know. There's like an episode of community. and it's in season four or something. So it's like there's been a lot of time. And where they're like, oh,

you guys all think that you're part of this community college, but Greendale is actually like an institution for like troubled minds. And they like try and gaslight them into thinking that like none of it's been happened. And you kind of start falling for it for a second. And they're like, hang on, no, I'm wearing a Greendale backpack.

Like, you know, like they kind of all figure it out. And it was just them trying to be gaslit into like, Some crazy thing, but I watched that episode recently. So I'm kind of like, if I was playing the long game, I'd give them a backpack. Yeah. If that's all it took for them to believe that it was.

I've got some merch from here, from this podcast that they say. Merch on that podcast. Do you remember early in the pod when we watched the true, I'd never watched the Truman show. And we watched it when we used to do the movie. reviews and rats. That fucked me for a couple of weeks. Every time I did something in the house, I was like, you kind of give everything around you a bit of a side-off.

You can't jerk off for a while because you're like, are people watching this? I always think that in a hotel. That's why I prefer Airbnb because in a hotel, I'm like, oh, they watch them. And I'm always jerking off. That doesn't stop me, but I'm aware of it. Yeah.

He's not put on a show. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else you like to add? I was just going to say there was a little period like after my mom died where I was really nervous she was watching. Like, because, you know, everyone goes, your mom's watching over you and all of that. And I just kind of got a bit like, oh, like, how much? Yeah. What she's saying?

Which bit in particular where you're like, oh, jerking off. Jerking off. Yeah, or like sleeping with people or whatever because I didn't have a boyfriend at the time. Here I am in heaven looking down on my face. She's sucking that guy off. Yeah. Well, yeah, because I didn't have a boyfriend at the time. So I was just like sleeping with anyone.

Charles was around then. And he wasn't born then. You just flicked your legs up and I think we all just saw a lot. Did we? That is the funniest thing I've ever heard. I wasn't looking. I can't. Charles was seen her.

Nothing else has seen before. Yeah, but this camera right here, I reckon was could have seen out your mouth. Anyway, um, yeah, Charles is. is important yet. That's very funny. All right. Would you like to hear, these are top confessions. Frustratingly anonymous. If you've got a confession and you'd like to submit it, we can't ask follow-up questions so you're very safe to admit to fraud or whatever might be going on. At our website, tonyryan.com.com.com. There's a thing that's like submit your

stories and there's a confessions area. If you've got anything that you don't want to tell your friends, that's also valid. It doesn't have to just be like, oh, I threw up in my boss's car or something. Charles Oh, when I died I keep watching my family when they suck guys off in the back of food markets I reckon though

it would be something you'd want to like you'd be like because it's just a bit nosy isn't it? Like you'd want to like get some goss on the other side don't you reckon? Ghost goss.

I tell you, I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion. Oh that's perfect now that tea. Thank you. Oh no. I think I've got what do they call that 100 day cough because I'm coughing

and I can't get rid of of it, eh. It's fine. Like, I don't feel bad, but I'm just coughing me fucking frog up. Hannah, how do I go back? Yeah. Undo. How do we go back? There we go. That's the whole thing. How do we go back? These days, you want to go back sometimes, but ever moving forward, isn't it? Technology, speed of light, etc. I mean, I'd love to not even just go back. Just pause sometimes, but not an option. It doesn't sound like you want to pause. I want to get talking. Charles, has she been talking this whole time?

Yeah, I did. I vamp while you were trying to figure out your iPad. And your iPads upside down. I think that we got some comments. We got some comments on yesterday's episode that the iPad was upside down. So I just wanted to let you know. Oh, now I've got to unlock it. Just to.

How? What do you mean you have to unlock it? It just, it doesn't. Charles, you need to help. You need to help granddad with his iPad. Is the screen locked? He's typing. Just.

Turn it around. But then I accidentally... Charles, you're going to have to intercept here, my darling. Interception. Oh, I love when you get down on one name. I press something and it deleted a whole bunch of stuff and I had to figure out the undo button. Oh, shake.

Oh, last time I did that, I nearly threw the iPad out the window. Last time we did that, you almost come. Last time you shook it. Thank you, Charles. When was the last time you jerked off? What time is it? Yeah, all right. Confession?

These are top confessions. That is top confessions. Tony and Ryan podcast. Confession. I have defrauded my closest friends and family at every birthday, Christmas and life milestone for the last five years. What? They think I'm a great friend, but I'm up thousands and thousands of euros. That's a lot.

What are you talking about? How do you make money at a birthday? Every gift I give comes with a nice card and a voucher code inside. Yeah. The code doesn't exist. I just make it up. I write a random number down and hope for the best. What do you mean?

Now, let's just all take a moment here and think about, now I don't know if this is as much in the digital age, but five, ten years ago, did everyone have like a drawer that had like old vouchers and shit in it? Yeah, and you had $50, but you spent some of it so it had 13 left or whatever. Yeah, or you never quite got around to it or whatever. So think about all the vouchers you never used.

See where I'm going? So you get the credit, like you get the social credit for being like a gift and $50 for a float tank. For example? might have been a voucher that Ryan bought me that I don't know. If someone actually tries to use it, I just buy the voucher. Tell them must have been a mix-up. Sorry, wrong number.

Here's the right one. And they go, oh, all good. One step ahead of that. If someone got, I will swear, down right fucking now. If someone bought me a voucher and I went to use it and it didn't work, I would never say anything. The anonymous person said they very rarely question, like only a few times of the hundred times they've done it. have they asked because A, they never use it in the first place or B, they go to use it and it doesn't work and they just go, oh, yeah.

Well, I would just feel so awkward being like, hey, that gift you got me doesn't want. So they've gone, they never ask for what could be a multitude of reasons. Yeah. But you just wouldn't bring it up, I don't think. They've done it a hundred times and two or three times the person's gone, oh, and they go, oh, sorry, man, here it is. And they go, oh, good. Well, that's pretty good ratio of having to buy it.

So you get all the social credit. For a gift and a gift card. That's crazy. And they write a really nice handwritten gift. And you know what? There is no loser here. Well, no, because if you don't try and use the card, I mean, aside from the guilt associated with...

They're pretty good. Fine with it looks like. No, no, no. The guilt associated with people going, fuck, like Ryan bought me that voucher and I never used it. You know, or like... Last year I gave a friend a 5,000 euro voucher because they moved into a new house and I would like buy yourself some amazing furniture.

Do they just think that this tapro is just rolling in fucking dough? The person was so happy and stoked and thankful and everyone was like, oh my God, you're so generous and they're like, oh, you know, things are going all right. So, you know, enjoy yourself. Never reached out. A 5,000 euro voucher I would use. Well, that's, I reckon you got to like pick your moments. No, I think you can do a $50 at most.

50 max, 25, piss it in. Yeah, 25, I reckon sweet. Because if someone, say you get a $25 voucher to, like, the movies or something, you go to use it and they go, oh, that's not working. You go, oh, that's right. I'll just pay for it. I use it another time. But like, $5,000.

What if you added all that stuff to your car on the IKEA website? $5,000 at IKEA? How many houses do you have? Oh, my God. Buy three houses. Build them yourself. I had massive friend points, and I've paid absolutely nothing. and I have no plans to stop.

Okay. You know when we had that conversation about the movie, Catch Me If You Can, but you were talking about now you see me, now you don't? Are you thinking of American Gangster? I don't know. I haven't seen that. But you know and Catch Me if you can,

how it starts small and then he just gets more and more, like, confident. Five grand. That's asking for trouble. So in American Gangstar. Sorry, my hair's all flapping out. No, my head.

Frank Lucas, who's one of the, great gangsters of the US and the drug kingpin. Of course. He used to go under the radar despite earning bazillions. Yeah. But then one time he wore this like, his wife goes, I've bought you like this peacock coat fucking fancy hat and they went to the boxing. Yeah.

And then all of a sudden everyone, all the bigwigs were like, well, who the fuck's this guy? Because that's a fancy hat. Well, and he's sitting right up the front. Right. And so then the cops looked into him and that was the start of his downfall because he got too cocky. Peacocky. He got two peacocky.

And I feel like the $5,000 voucher is Frank Lucas in the peacocky cocky coat. Because, don't you reckon as well, that even if, say, Charles had bought the voucher, right? So true. And I was like, oh, my God, what a great guy you bought me this voucher for $5,000. I wouldn't say to Charles, but I would say to you like, you know how Charles bought me that $5,000? It didn't work. Like, I might not. Like our TARPA might not know, but everybody else is talking about it being like, oh, actually, they bought me a voucher a few years ago and that didn't work.

Like, I think that that's where it starts to unravel. Well, also, they go, Charles got you that $5,000 voucher. What did you get? Oh. Or if I gave someone a $5,000 voucher, I'd message three months later and go, hey, mate, they did you end up using that thing? I want to see what you chose. Yeah, show me the couch you bought or fucking whatever. I also think that it creates a divide because.

Because if you get me something for $5,000, then at your birthday, I'm like, fuck, I've got to get this guy something pretty good. Imagine if when Charles in 25,000 years gets married, I give him a $10,000 wedding gift and I give you a scratchy pack from that's lotto. So you kind of go. At $18.50. I mean. Would you feel a bit hard done by?

No, it's not about if you, if Charles gave. It's because I value him more than you. No, no, no. But if Charles gave you something really expensive and then me, something not expensive, that I don't care it's the it's me giving him back something expensive

oh like it's not I don't care that he bought you something expensive and not me because you guys might have a different relationship that's fine we do

but it's the it's the person who bought it for you you then are like fuck I owe you so you move into a place yeah and Charles gives you a $2,000 voucher then Charles moves into a place

and you give him a $15 voucher and he goes for fucking well yeah or then his birthday comes up and I go fuck I've got to get something pretty good. He gave me $5,000. Well, but did he?

Well, so this is how you make the money. Yeah. You imagine all the great gifts this person's getting back. That's what I'm saying. Because people go, no, she always put so much effort into our presence. I need to give them something great. Yeah. Live and LeVita Loca.

Fuck, I don't know if I can endorse that. That's crazy. So where do we, not that it's our job to choose, but where have we landed here? I mean, I feel so guilty about giving Tommy on our team that stolen bottle of champagne. We don't even, I don't even have an update for you on that. I don't know what happened. He's gone since then. He hasn't come in. Well, he's personally, he's had a tough time and it's gone so bad for him. He's thinking you're buying an android. Yeah. And that was the start of it. But I felt so guilty, so I certainly couldn't do it. But as someone who does forget gift

vouchers, I could probably have been a victim of this and not realize. Good to know. With a wedding coming up What do you mean? There's not hotel reservation on the lodge. Hi, I'm Michelle from New York, USA. Hi, my name's Christy from Prescott, Scotland. Hi, I'm Trudy from Adelaide And you're listening to Tony.

Apparently there's a... Tell me about this scam with the iTunes card. It's like a bit... Like, it was a few years ago, but there was this scam that the ATO. which is like the tax office in Australia that they were, people were posing as the ATO

and saying like if you want to pay off your debt with gift vouchers like that because it's like untraceable because you just buy it and then you give it to someone it's gone. And you think that the ATO doesn't want iTunes vouchers. Well I just think that if you get a scam call or scam email and it's like you owe the tax man $50 worth of iTunes gift cards

like that's a kid. kid playing temple run. Like, that's a kid that wants to play Roblox. Like, that's not believable to me. I just think that if you're, if you can get got by that, then maybe like that's up to natural selection. You know, that's like tags on the hairdry stuff. I studied accounting in undergrad. Congratulations. A lot of people I studied with, I assume, now work in the tax office because that's our accountants go. Wonderful. Are you saying they don't deserve music? Do you hate the arts? Do you hate They should be able to play Temple Run. If you're an accountant, I love that for you.

But I'm just saying that if you think that that's real, I think that that's up to you. Well, I think if you work in the tax office and you want music, then you just let me know how you'd like to be paid. I'll pay you in music. I'll pay you in Diet Coke. You know how we recently got quite a large tax bill? Imagine if they go, can you pay that in iTunes? I asked, I don't know, if you saw this email, but I asked if we could use

Qantas points. Because maybe they want to fly some place. Maybe they want to go on a holiday, yeah. I mean, it's worth asking. I'm just saying that if you do I have money? Maybe that's asking for it. No. Do I have a lot of quantus points after the last trip? Yeah. Are we flying again soon? Yeah. Does the ATO want some? Yeah. Or could we do like when you book a flight with points? Could we

supplement some points and give some cash? Points plus pay. Points and pay. Hey, thank you, Charles. These are the questions I'm asking. And you know, you don't ask, you don't get. And so the ATO asking for people to pay them with iTunes, give cards is, they go, hey, you don't have to, but wish, what I asked. You still always have $5,000 in tax, but thanks for letting me listen to Britney Spears.

Yeah, I've just bought the fucking How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb by you two. You know, the album that they put on everyone's iPod? That's niche, but very funny. If you bought them that and they're like, I've already got it. They go great. Now I've got the deluxe as well. Now I've got to listen to. to both.

It was 1699. Yeah, the acoustic version. Yeah, with the remix. There's a David Gweta remix on there. There's an instrumental. Massive shout out to a few of our champion tarpas over at our Patreon. And they're paying with Qantas points. So it's wonderful.

Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Tell me a millennial podcast without telling me your leniential podcast. With that we just talked about that. I've talked about David Gweta doing a remix of you too. And talking about the album that got forced onto everyone's thing. That is so crazy. And you're under 30 listening to this going,

oh, so what was it like during the fucking war? Yeah, I know. Literally the Great Depression of 2003. Do you know we're talking about the album that got forced to put on everyone's iPod charts? I do, but only because I know about it from the tech point of view of it. Sure. That's the only. Yeah.

It was a huge invasion of privacy. Like having an album put onto your thing was crazy. Wow. Like who decided that at Apple? Did they get paid for that? Well, it's free. Like, everybody's listening to their album. But like, if you wrote an album and you're like, I'm going to sell this album and

Apple's like, I'll just give it to everyone for free. They're like, well, we were planning on selling it. True. Or is it just like good PR and there, you know what I mean? Yeah. And then you go, oh, I'd never heard of YouTube before. Now I'll listen to their old stuff. Now I'll go to.

They've got a great track called Beautiful Day, you know. Now I'll go to the live show. Now I'll go to YouTube 360. Do you remember that show that they did? All right. Should we do some research and come back with like a deep dive? Well, what I'll say... Do you want me to present the economics of you two on iPhones?

I would love to hear that. But what I will say is that we do have a data set regarding you two already because you remember when we posted that Instagram story about who hates you too? And turns out some people like him. Apparently. Some. Were you saying you liked them? No.

It was Henrique. Henrique said he liked you too. And I like you too. Would you like to know how much Apple? paid you two for it. Yes. $100 million. That's not that much.

I feel for what that was. They paid them $100 million. Apple paid you two. So you two get $100 million and they get the exposure of being on every single phone in the world. But only 6.7% of the 500 million people listen to at least part of it. Who gives a fog? I'll take the 100 mil.

6.7% is not. Sorry, out of how many people? 500 million. That's a lot, though. Yeah, I mean, 6% of 500. What other album got 40 million? Fuck, I love it when you do fast maths like that. Are you okay over there?

I just got a hair on me and I am molting actually. Do you need me to come over there with a vacuum and just hose you down? Yeah, like what you do with like a German Shepherd? Yeah. Actually, though? No. Okay. You can suck me off, though.

A massive shout out to a few of our champion tarpers. Sorry. Carly, good on your. you Carly Nicholas Santanak Santa Sack Kara Odom, good on your Cara. Irene Apostola Poulos Can I buy a vow?

Greeks on the roof. Katie Smith, got on you Katie. Do you remember Greeks on the roof? Effie? What? I remember Effie. I don't remember that show. That was the show, yeah.

Katie Smith, good on your Katie. God, Katie Smith is a four from Grace after Irene Astapola Lupalos. Alex, good on you, Alex. Nicole Keen, I'm keen. Dana Melitia. Good on you, Dana. Lorna, might be Lorna Jane, James Martin, good on you, James, Jaastar Maria, good on ya.

Ja star Maria. Mandy Longhurst. You know her sister? No good unless at Longhurst. What's her sister, Shorthurst? Yeah, maybe, yeah. Thank you very much being part of Badgeron. I love it, so.

Storyfamnews.com.com.com. are you. Rebecca Scanlon is the lifestyle editor down there. Hi Rebecca. She's written an amazing piece. Oh, don't they all? No,

actually. Sorry, do you say daily mail? No, news.com. com. Oh, it's the same,

isn't it? I reckon that's all a big scam. They all just copy and paste from each other. Sorry. Wow. Take down of traditional media. They will never see it coming because they will not listen to on-demand audio. Sales of bar soap have collapsed with now less than 22% of under 35 still using them.

Less than 22% of under 35s. Are using bar soap? Because no one knows how to fucking use it. In the last four years, consumer fears around bacteria spreading via shared bars has surged, as the majority of millennials don't see soap as a means to cleanliness, but rather a transport method for pathogens. Oh my God, what a sentence. Sorry, read that again.

Very beautiful reading from you as well. I gave it everything I got to. I could hear the concentration. Your asshole was clenched the whole time. In the last four years, consumer fears around bacteria spreading via shared bars has surged. As the majority of millennials don't see soap as a means to cleanliness,

but rather a transport method for pathogens. Beautiful stuff. Despite bar so being used for over 5,000 years. Fuck off. It's only since June 2020 that these concerns have emerged. June 22. Those dates line up. Now, they got me thinking if for 5,000 years...

Yeah. Everyone was totally fine with this thing. So true. But then suddenly in June 2022, everything changed to the point where sales have dropped with less than 22% under 35% isn't it? What happened in June 22? No way. Is that the same time? Roll the tape.

Borrowing a bar of someone's soap that's been in their bum. In their butt? How are you guys using soap at your house? No, but it's like being in and around your bum and your nether's. I'll accept the round. I don't know about in. But like, when you're soaping yourself up, do you, do you, Ryan? You lather up your hands and then use your hands.

What? How are you using the soap? Is that actually how you use a bar of soap? Is that how you're not? Oh, my God. What have you been doing? Oh, my God. You've been putting the soap.

Don't make, oh. I've used soap at your house. bar into the areas that it needs to go. Are you supposed to just like flap it up in your hands and then scrub like this? Well, it would so, you wouldn't lose it in any orifices. Oh my God. Charles, what date that episode go out? That went out on June 9th, 2022.

Get fully fucked. And what did was the day of the collapse of the bar of soap? June 22. Now that video, like easy 100 million views, like across TikTok and Instagram and YouTube shorts and, you know, the clippers and the reactions and the articles and the... And you would not believe even now, four years on from that, the amount of people that come up to me and go, oh, I started following you from the soap, like the amount of people that still bring it up. You know who they're not following.

They're not following big soap. They're not following dives. They've had to pivot, haven't they? What are they doing now? Pump soap. Everyone's pumping. They're pumping. Because of you.

I actually am fine with that. I think that bar soap is disgusting. Bar soap doesn't think much of you either. That's fine. That's fine. But I think what people took from that video is that I'm using bar soap, which I'm not. I use a pump. Like I use a squeaky one from Lash.

Shut out. It's just good stuff. I've been using it for years and years. And this was a mere hypothetical. So I'm not missing anything but the lack of so. In fact, you know what I say to that? Good riddance. Barso, fuck you.

Your audience is dying out. All the old nonners, see ya. RIP, but still be. You know what I mean? So. I've let that get away from me a little bit. Yeah. Do you want to redact any of the?

I don't want anyone to die. No, but you're saying if they do, then see you. Oh, they're dead. Yeah. What they can do? And they're the only people use. in bar so what's that one with the black and red

little branding on it it's like this big on top of it it's like the brand of barso oh like what is it leather something yeah um imperial leather yeah yeah yeah yeah oh that's for nanas yeah the other one is the um because you don't hear people our age chatting about imperial leather

no the other one I mean now now they have non ironically the other one um Pairs, Charles Pairs bar of soap, the orange, the orange like see-throw bar. Oh, oh. That had a real, because that's quite a fancy one, that had a real resurgence because when it became cool to style your eyebrows up, you put a little bit of water on a spoolie and then rubbed it into that bar of soap.

Soap brows were one of the first eyebrow trends and it went fully viral. So I bought that, I've still got three bars of that from doing the eyebrow because you didn't need very much. It lasted forever. If I saw... I don't use it anymore, but I stand by it. If I saw one of those pairs in the wild, I would assume... If I saw those pairs in the wild.

If I saw a pair of those bad boys in the wild. Check out the pair on that one. Oh, I saw a pair in her bathroom. If I saw one of those pairs in the wild, I would assume it's a buttermentthal and just hop it down. It's quite large. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's about...

The size of a bar. soap. Yeah, it is large. Okay, why'd you put that on your boots? He's large. Sorry. Yeah, it's much. Oh, look at that on the shoulder. Oh, who's that? Oh, they look good. He's nice. I like that. That is a beautiful ladder.

Buy 12 pairs and get a gentle transfer merent soap bath for full price still. I've got something to say. Please. Where is the soap on that model's body? Not in his asshole. It's not in his hands.

he's moved that soap where it needs to go. I don't think he's moved that soap where it needs to go. I've been right this whole time. I think it was specifically putting it in your ass that was the problem. No, he was moving it around. No, it was. Yes, no, no, no. The problem with everybody in the comments though was, yes, read the fucking comments.

Oh, I bet I have. No, no, no, no. The comments are that, first of all, you shouldn't just use a bar of soap because it's disgusting. So fair. The other one was that people were like, no, you're supposed to, to your point. in the video that you're supposed to lather it up and then use your hands on the bar of soap. This photo has been edited though because if you click on this one, the blue is the exact same position.

Can't be trusted. Yeah. So can't be trusted. Okay. Yeah, that's not a good sample size for our experiment. Okay. I can't believe that those dates line up. What else could I take down?

Who would you like to take down next? I don't want to take down like anyone in particular. Just like what else is possible? You just just hungry for power. I just, I think that's crazy because, I mean, the dates lining up, that is wild to me. After 5,000 years and there's a dip and it's like, what's happened there? What's happened there? 5,000 years per soap, that doesn't feel like, I don't know whether in my mind it doesn't feel like long enough or it feels like too long.

Like, how long have we had access to like running water? Define running. Because is it running down the river? Because in that case, eternity. Yeah. Yeah. But like how long have people had personal soap? Like that whole time?

Well, people would have had to have clean stuff. And like different forms of soap. Because they would have used soap made from like, you know, like on Fight Club, they make the soap out of like the fat and oils and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That sounds right. Because I guess I would just like make it molded and like they're not buying

Imperial leather 5,000 years ago. Maybe they were. Yeah. And if they were going to buy any brand 5,000 years could be imperial. I wouldn't get pears. looks like a fucking butter menthol. Oh, I ate one of those by accident, one. Yeah.

Don't get tricked. Didn't stop the cough, but I started coughing bubbles. I got to love to see it here. Coffee bubbles. In my mind, the cartoon of that is very cute. Thank you. Like a little burp and it's like. Yeah, it's very winning the poo, which is big in our house.

Big in your house at the moment. Yeah. Guys, that should be my, actually, you know what it is. My love to see it. Love it. has only just discovered Winnie the Pooh and she loves it. Like the O.D. The movie from the 70s, like the OG.

Yeah. And because it's like slow animation. It's like good for the brain. Very slow, not overly fluro. Yeah. Yeah. Very calm. A couple of,

because she likes the original, Alice in Wonderland. Yeah. But it also, same as Alison Wonderland. And maybe this was just the sign of the times. There's some like crazy like dream sequences. Yeah.

Where they're all like a little bit fucked up or like, you know. Or they smoke and stuff. because it was so normal then. Like, oh, but like they, the dream sequences are like, they're hallucinating and everything starts going crazy. And I was like, is she needed to watch this? Is it a bit scary? Yeah.

Yeah. I had crazy nightmares after watching the Poo's Heflamp movie at the cinema. What's the Poo's Heffalump? Well, the Pooh Bear Hefflump movie. So the Heffelumps were just like a character in Pooh Bear. And it was really, I was really scary. I slept on my mom and dad's floor for like months. Oh, sweetie.

Do you want to talk about it? I just did. Yeah, I feel like that's it. Okay. Did you know that all the characters in Winnie the Pooh Bear are based on different mental health conditions? Really? Yeah. Like each character is like Tigger is like ADHD and donkey is like depressed obviously.

E or. E or. Sorry, who's donkey? From Shrek. Or Eey or the donkey, yeah, yeah. But then like Winnie the Pooh is like a bit obsessive about the. the honey and stuff and it goes through and I read it because I was like oh I wonder where this show's from and then I read it and I was like oh god oh that's cry I didn't know that oh yeah

yeah well love to see that right um I've got a love to see it here from louise martino sent this through on patreon thanks Louise um I'm absolutely wet for life amazing and my best friend Beck and I are part of an open water swimmer's group down at seaford fuck yeah local uh we try and swim every Friday before work even if it's just a dip in the ocean and then straight back out. Yep. I love that. That's so fun.

Louise says one of the swimmers there is a photographer and she's just published a book titled The Next Wave where she captured photos of us swimming like out in the deep water and stuff. That's sick. Guess what? Says Louise. I'm in the book and got my own little page with a write-up and photo of me. Famous. I'm Devo.

I can't send picks of it to show you, but it's so exciting. I think we should try and I'll see if Louise can email through a photo or something. And then she says, hopefully we can catch you down at the Seaford Pier soon. I think you... We should go. Yeah, just in time for winter. For winter. Yeah.

No, we'll brave it. We could do that. We could do that. You can? I would go. I would love to do that. Yep. How far is...

Yeah, it's a fair drive. But, you know, live in Lovito Loka. Is it like, what, 40 minutes or like an hour or? It depends on traffic. It's down past Sandingham, past J-Saw or like down that way. Oh. Oh. Yeah, but, you know, what else you get on?

What else you get on? That's the thing. Life is about waking up early and doing stuff. How you spend your days is how you spend your life. And I would love to look back and have spent my life going in the pool. I think Hawthorne's training base has moved to Seaford. So maybe we could do the double. Go watch training day.

Go for a trip. Yeah. But we could go get a little ham cheese croissant. Do they do that as a hawthorn training best? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I asked him.

Luke Bruce says it's the best croissant he's ever had. Hey, he's at Richmond now. But when he's there? I'm trying. I'm trying. No, he's a hawk for life, but he is at Richmond. Yeah. So not quite.

Not like us. No. I bleed golden brown. I hope not because that sounds bad. Sounds bad. That's why I take it, the colonoscopy. Yeah. Are we back tomorrow?

On day. Tomorrow, tomorrow, some tarpers are learning how to be an adult. Love it. We're all learning. Every day's a learning opportunity and I've always had that. And for some, they're doing well. And others, just a bit slower.

But they're getting there. We're all on a journey. Journey. We're all on a journey. we'll chat to you then love you love you so much have a great day and i hope that if anybody just like makes you a little bit mad you go oh and you just then you move on but let them go do you know what i mean like fuck them just fuck them off have you listened to little mel robbins lately no i haven't christopher robbins christopher robin from winder yeah that's mal robin's dad

that's good love you see tomorrow bye