Toni and Ryan - Letting Children Win

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

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Welcome to the podcast. My name is Ryan. I'm here with Dr. Arthur Basselling-Lodge. And I've got the words around the room. Oh my God. My name's just Tony. You can just call me Tony. No, I'll have to judge you. Okay. What should I say about you? Um, just Ryan's fine. Okay. Let's call Alex, who is right here in the glorious city of Melbourne.

Do you think it's Torbs? Maybe. Is his last name Torbs? Hello. Hi, Alex. Alex, how are you doing? Hi, guys. I'm doing great. I'm excited to be hearing from you.

When I said I was calling Alex, Tony was like, do you reckon it's Torbs? Because my partner's name is, his first name is Alex. I do sometimes hear you say my name like, ooh, and then I'm like, no, it's Torbs. Different one. So when Tony goes, so I was at home having sex with Alex. You're like, ooh, and then I'm like, no, it's Torb. Different one. That does make me a little sad. So when Tony goes, so I was at home having sex with Alex, and you're like, oh, is that me? Yeah, oh, what did I do?

Oh, I wouldn't say no. I appreciate that, actually. Thank you for the pump up. Yeah. Yeah. Alex, as well as approving Tony to come over to your house, will you also approve this episode? I definitely will.

Yes. Not the first time I've said yes to an Alex in the last couple of days. Oh, righto. Okay, sorry. Hi, it's Alex from Melbourne, and I approve this podcast. All right, coming up today, Aunty Toddy. Aunt Toddy. Aunt Toddy.

And for those that listened a few days ago. Aunt Toddy will be fine. Aunt was spelt with a C at the start by a cute little seven-year-old drawing. It was very sweet. Was it? Yes, it was. All right. We'll get to more Auntie Toddy soon.

Aunt Toddy. Why are you against the auntie? Because Auntie Toddy sounds like, like it's too much. Whereas like Aunt Toddy, like rolls off the tongue. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yep.

Aunt Toddy. Aunt Toddy. Or obviously. Yes.dy. Aunt Toddy. Or obviously. Yes. Carla Conti Toddy. Carla Conti Toddy. But it's Thursday. Let's do normal or nah.

And we'll start with Michael Lee. Hi, Michael Lee. Michael's written in. Normal or nah, eating crisps or chips like a bowl of dry cereal. I crush the chips up in a bag and then pour them into the bowl and eat them with a spoon. Good to know that Michael keeps good company. Boy, is he in for a shock. I mean, the ultimate nah already, straight off the bat. Obviously, because we're not psychopaths, it's a nah. However, let me continue with Michael's,

what I now call a pitch rather than a justification. I like eating crisps while I'm on the computer or on my phone, and my way of eating is way cleaner and way more hygienic. No more crumbs, no more greasy fingers on the keyboard and on the phone, no more bits of salt and crap under the fingernails. But the thing that I, still nah, sorry, if that wasn't clear, the thing that I like chips, or the thing that I'd eat any food for,

I'm a texture gal. Yeah. And so the thing that I like about chips is that it's like a big crunch. A satisfying crunch. Yeah. But if they're all, like, pulverized. Yeah. Like, I just, I also, in the beginning of the thing, what did he say?

I eat chips like I eat dry cereal. Well, who's eating dry cereal? Dry cereal, fucking nah. See you later. Get out of my life. If you can't have dairy, put some soy on it. If you can't have dairy, how dairy? But any other, I mean, yeah.

Like, how dare he? Oh. Yeah, no, that was good. Thank you. I'll take it. I should be stronger, but I'm not. You know, I'd, no, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm not a fan of dry cereal.

Cereal as a concept is actually kind of freaky to me. I do like it, but I'll go through a phase where I'll buy a box of crunchy nut and I'll eat the whole thing and then I won't eat cereal again for like two years. How long does a box of crunchy nut last you? Normally if I get like the Do you know how fucking, sorry, expensive cereal is? It's cooked.

I had no idea. It's not cooked. That's the thing. It's fucking basically shit from the floor they put in a box and they go, there's $12. They just literally pick gravel up and say, pop that with some milk and then go fuck yourself. Yeah. Cereal is a fucking modern day fucking hoax.

It's like a fucking pyramid scheme. Cereal. Food pyramid. a fucking pyramid scheme. Cereal. Food pyramid. Food pyramid. Nice. Nice. Actually, though, it is just atrocious. You're about to have a child.

You know how they say that on average it costs like $3 million to raise a kid over the cost of their life? A million dollars? Maybe if you're raising them with your fancy tastes. Well, I'm not buying them cereal. I hope you're not because can you afford that? Not now, apparently. No.

Having said all this about you hating cereal, how long would a box of crunchy nut last in your house? So I normally buy, you know, the littlest box you can get. That's like an A4 piece of paper kind of size. They'll get you through a morning. I'd probably, I would only buy it if I really felt like it. And then that dad probably have cereal for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Torbs and I would both have it for every meal for that one day.

And then we won't buy it for ages. Has a box of crunchy nut ever spent the night at your house? No. No. It's a rooted and booted food. Comes in. We enjoy it, but it doesn't stay the night. Don't say comes in. Crunchy nut.

So the chips. Call me crunchy because I'm about to nut. You need some milk in that crunchy nut. Things you can say while buying cereal and also in the bedroom. I agree. Crunchy nut is so yum. Do you want a spoon? I would do anything for a spoon of crunchy nut right now.

Including that. With me. Like, oh, things you can say. Like, oh, do you want a spoon? Okay. Anyway, nah for the chips. Okay. Let's move along to Aly say. Like, oh, do you want some? Okay. Anyway, nah for the chips. Okay. Let's move along to Alyssa.

Hi, Alyssa. And sorry, speaking of health, I'm just keeping an eye on my phone because we just ordered Uber Eats at the start of this episode. Hate for the driver to rock up and not know where to go. Alyssa asks. Sorry. That sent me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, Alyssa. Alyssa, does anyone else take their shirt off when eating high-risk foods at home? Yeah. Saucy and oily things can ruin a shirt but can easily be wiped off your ta-tars. Yep, normal. 100% normal. I've done that definitely in my life. You know when sometimes you, like, go out in the morning

and then you, like, duck home and you know you have to go back out to either another meeting or an appointment or you get home from work and then you're going straight out but you go home and change your shoes or whatever. But you've got your good shirt on. But you've got your good shirt on and you're going to wear it again after. I've, like, eaten a meal at the kitchen, like hunched over the kitchen bench like a homeless cat.

Like literally naked from, like, the waist up. And I'm still wearing, like, my heels and my jeans or whatever. And I've just got my shirt off and my just boobs are flanging around. Flanging around. And I'm eating the thing shirt off and my just boobs are flanging around. Yeah, flanging around. And I'm eating the thing and I'm still all done. Well, if you're like a homeless cat hunched over, are your boobs not flailing away in what you're eating? Yeah, I guess so.

But, yeah, and, like, you just look, you know, like you look like a little gremlin. But, yeah, naked from the waist up because you don't want to. Is everyone else picturing this as Tony saying it? Because it's not a sexy wink. It's not good. It's no. When you're like, oh, hello.

No, that's not. So if I've got a. I've had some dark times in my life. Oh, mate. And I thought I knew what rock bottom looked like. Oh, yeah. No, you haven't seen it. Until you've seen me with the bowl of crunchy nut naked from here.

I mean, there's really, there's nothing else. Or, you know, yesterday's spaghetti or like a leftover butter chicken still in the plastic container. I've done that nude up as well. Yeah. You got to. Leftover butter chicken. A butter chicken will fuck a shirt.

It will fuck a shirt. It will fuck a shirt. I've been told by Bridge, this is not a white shirt meal. Yeah. Like I'll get home, like, oh, dinner, this looks great. And she goes, go and get changed, babe. Yeah, yeah. Let's not play this rodeo.

You know, with the I Still Call Australia Home video. Yes. And I was dressed like a choir kid. So I was wearing like smart black pants and a button-up white shirt. A crisp white shirt. Very crisp shirt. And that shirt had to make it all the way around Australia as we were filming.

Did you get a backup? No, because it was a shirt that I just have. You're a madman. Yeah. A psychopath. Do you know you? So for the days where we had filming more than once in a row, Torbs had to wash and dry the shirt every night

so that I could wear the crisp one the next day. Torbs had to, did he? Torbs had to like wash and dry the shirt like every night so that I could wear the crisp one the next day. Torbs had to, did he? Torbs offered to and Torbs did. And so on probably day two of filming, we still had day like three and four and it wasn't like, it wasn't the end of the time that I needed the shirt to look perfect. I may have eaten a double quarter pounder while I was driving. And the shirt was just splattered in like red tomato sauce.

It was a saucy double quarter pounder in my defence. And I got home and Torbs was like, well, how am I going to get that out? And I was like, well, I need to wear this shirt tomorrow. And he's, yeah. So, yeah, I've definitely done it. And sometimes you risk it. Sometimes it's fine. Most of the time it's not fine.

There's actually a great episode about this in Brooklyn Nine-Nine that I know your stubbornness won't allow you to watch and enjoy, but you would actually enjoy it. No, it's not about me being stubborn. I have tried to watch it. Do you know how easy my life would be if I liked Brooklyn Nine-Nine? Like the thing is, is that I want to like it. I've tried to watch it. Do you know how easy my life would be if I liked Brooklyn Nine-Nine? The thing is that I want to like it. I've tried to like it.

Sounds great. We'll get to this quickly because the food's almost here. Oh, sorry. Yep. Brianna. Hi, Brianna. Brianna says, I never untie my shoes when I get home. You know how you put your other foot on the heel and kind of just

flip your shoe out of it? Slide it out. To save time. Yeah. No, that's a great time saver actually because what are you going to do you're going to bend over untie it squit you know how you like separate the laces to like give yourself a bit of distance so you're not doing that no too much time so she just flicks them off um but then when i go to leave the house i get so fucking annoyed because my shoes are tied. Then I have to untie them and pull them apart,

and it wastes so much time when I'm trying to leave the house. Is this normal for anyone else or nah? I plead the fifth. That, yes, that normal, normal, normal. Okay. So, yes, I do do that. Sometimes in the morning if I'm in a rush and I'm like, oh, my God, I haven't undone my shoes, it's a bit of a drama,

then I just wear slides because I go, well, I've saved time last night and now I've made time now and I just have to wear something else. And at Tony's front door there's's 87 pairs of tied up shoes. Yeah, there is. And because every time, and then I go, oh, and then the next day I go, oh, wear different sneakers tomorrow. And then I don't untie those or I just shove with all my might. Have you done that?

Where you go, I'm just going for it. They need to be untied before I get back in there. And you go, you know what, I'll just give it a go. And then you fuck all the back of the shoe up because you like squash it down. Yeah, I've done that as well. The ones that I'm wearing now at the moment actually are, they're getting a bit crook in the back because I keep just shoving my foot in. That's a price you pay for a fishing pole.

I mean, I'm saving time. Yeah. Look at now, we're saving time now talking about it because I go, no, in and out. Move on. Hey, it's Alex from Melbourne, and you're listening to Tony and Ryan. For those playing along at home, the Uber Eats has arrived and we have eaten. Yep, we have. And the episode will resume.

Yep. And you can probably hear that we've got a bit more of a pep in our step. Oh, there's peps, mate. There's peps in steps on this pod. I think we really need, you know how sometimes you're like, I just need a bit of a pick me up? Yeah. Yeah, I needed that energy, that energy boost. You look picked up. You look picked up. I'll pick you need, you know how sometimes you're like, I just need a bit of a pick me up. Yeah. Yeah. I needed that energy, that energy boost. You look picked up.

You look picked up. Pick you up, sweetheart. The things I would do to pick you up. Pick you the hell up. Pick you up, then I'd put you down. You know what? God, I thought I was full. Oh.

Sorry. Sorry. What? Sorry. What? I'm saying sorry. Thank you for apologizing. I don't know if i can keep going things tony's never said um i must shout out to a few of our champion tapas over at our patreon

you can check our patreon out at any time um champion tapas get like one uh live stream per month like ryan and i will jump on and talk shit for half an hour, 40 minutes or whatever. Yep. Answer questions, whatever. We answer all our DMs in there. Yep. We also, there's a weekly blog.

There's like a weekly video of like a full break. Like there's heaps of really cool stuff over there. Full length videos from the pod. How is the blog going? Blog's going great. It's back. It's good to know. Yeah.

I'm back on my high horse. I'm back on the horse. Yeah. A regular sized horse. So I'm going to do from now on my A blog C's, so the ABC's. So like every week is going to be like a letter. Oh, that's nice.

And that's how I'm going to like think of something. It's a thinking of thing issue, isn't it? Yes. Okay. Because if someone was like, can you write a blog about onions? Of course I could do it. You once said to me your dream job was to be a lifestyle writer

if someone else gave you the ideas. And I was like, the job is coming up with the ideas. The other dream that I've had is like if my dream, my job was like full-time brainstormer because I love a brainstorm. Well, maybe you could have done that with the blog. Oh, yeah, I see. time brainstormer because i love a brainstorm maybe you could have done that with the blog oh yeah i see but no um like not an independent brainstorm which is what that would have been okay you know what i mean like imagine if i just sat in this room and then three people walked in they went tony we need an idea for this and i sat down there with them for 40 minutes and then they

went amazing great thank you and then they left and i went next and then they went, amazing, great, thank you. And then they left and I went, next. And then another two people walked in. They went, Tony, we need an idea for this. What? Is that a job? I don't think so, no. Well, it is now. I'm leaving the podcast.

You know what my dream job is? What? Working with you every day, making this show. But good luck with your ideas, consultancy, though. Don't fucking do that. Good luck with your ideas, consultancy. I'm really happy for you. I'll think of something. Don't fucking do that. Good luck with your ideas, consultancy. I'm really happy for you. I'll think of something.

Don't fucking do that. My daughter will hopefully. So many, many years ago, that was my dream. And then obviously that's been eclipsed by this dream job that I now have. Anyway, thank you, Kendra and I, for loving that we do this job. Travis Pancake. Travis Pancake. Marcos Widdeson.

Lisa M. Bray. Churro Neil. And Suzanne. Travis Pancake Marcos Wittesen Lisa M. Bray Arturo Neal and Suzanne do we just have churros and pancakes in the same nah so I didn't get it Travis Pancake

and Arturo not like oh like Arthur yes like Arthur oh I thought you said like pancake and a churro. No. I didn't get what you said.

I was like, what? A churro. Yeah. A churro maybe or something. Yeah. What was that? No, it was nothing. Okay.

I've got a question for you, Ryan. And for anybody listening, I think everybody will have like immediately, I think people get like a knee-jerk reaction about this thing. You're about to become a dad. I think you've missed a syllable there. And the coming's not what makes the dad. I think you've got the order around the wrong way. You come and then you become.

You're about to become there we go a dad do you let kids win oh that's a great question i haven't thought about this yeah so i don't think so well let's not think about you as a dad let's think about you like right now if you were playing a game or you know like whatever with a kid yeah whether like a niece or a nephew or a cousin or a friend's baby or something what's your stance on like letting them win okay so i in my entire life yeah have never ever beaten dave parsons at table tennis not even a mercy killing not even like him just like i'll let him have this one. For context, Dave Parsons is a grown adult person the same age as you.

Yeah, so, and Dave played table tennis against his dad like every day from the age of four and he could barely see over the table. And Dave beat his dad for the first time ever when I think Dave might have been 18 or 19. So for like his whole childhood, Jimbo would always be. Not like. Wait, are you saying that Dave Parsons' dad is called Jim? Yeah.

Jim Parsons? Yeah. The guy from Big Bang Theory? Yeah, that's his dad. Oh my God, Sheldon. Yeah. Dave is Sheldon. They're all the same. No, slightly different, Sheldon. Yeah. Dave is Sheldon. They all the same.

No, slightly different gym. Different one. But he, the dad never, like, let him. And obviously when the kid's six, you're not going to play to the best of your ability. But his dad still did enough to beat him. To win, yeah. Because then it was actually, like, a real moment in time. For Dave.

And almost, like, a handshake of, like, you're a man. You know, like. No, not you're a man. But like no no you're but it's like you won table tennis you know like imagine playing every day and you've never beaten him and then finally one time oh yeah it would feel amazing it'd feel amazing and it's like oh and dave knew like i earned this dad hasn't gifted it to me yeah and i think if you just let them win all the time i don't know as someone who played a lot of sports, the kids who were just like given everything, maybe get a bit whatever. And knowing how to lose is like a life skill.

Some people don't know how to be wrong. Sometimes you're going to be wrong. And when you lose and the scoreboard says they score more than you, you can't argue or call your mum or get a lawyer. I'm going to have to bring that up. Well, you can't, especially. Oh, what did you call me? Like sometimes learning go, oh, I lost today

and I'm just going to have to sit with that in tomorrow's meeting. It's actually an important life skill. And I don't know if you were expecting me to get on my high horse this much, but I know people and you know them too and you go oh you didn't play sport when you were younger no you don't know how to lose it's not even that it's like oh your parents let you win yeah yeah big your parents let you win energy yeah or big like only child energy you go your your siblings never fucking beat you up and let you know where your place in the world was and you can tell even sorry, I know this isn't the podcast,

but politicians, they will lie for decades to not admit they lost one thing. Yeah, but also no one ever tells them no. Society does. Elections do. Maybe it's going, yeah, we lost today and tomorrow's a new day. Cool, that's the end of the podcast. Great.

Thanks for bringing this up again. Love to see that. What are you getting at, mate? What have you done? Okay. and tomorrow's a new day. Yeah. Cool, that's the end of the podcast. Great. Thanks for bringing this up again. You love to say that, don't you? What are you getting at, mate? What have you done? Okay, so I actually totally agree with you and I think that it can give kids and people a bit of a complex overlap. Oh, well, did I win for real or did mum let me win

or did dad let me win or did my sister let me win or whatever? Did I actually win that? Stop being gaslit on the table tennis table. Totally. But I guess all of that aside, this feels so insignificant now. Sorry, I'm going to drink some water and calm down. I've derailed us.

No, no, that's okay. And another thing. Sorry, no. So a little while ago, I spent some time with my family. What do they call you again? Aunt Toddy. With an A. Yes.

So all my nieces and nephews. So when my nephew Tyler was born, he couldn't say Tony. Because he's a special child. No, just because he was a little baby. Very special. Couldn't pronounce the word Tony. No. What's he call you now as an 18 year old?

Toddy. So he still hasn't quite. Okay. So it caught on and my whole family calls me Toddy now. Like it just, one of those things. Yep. And anyway, so earlier in the year, I like went and my whole family calls me Toddy now. Like it's just one of those things. Yep. And anyway, so earlier in the year, I like went and visited my family and my sister lives in Darwin.

And so obviously it's like quite hard to get to, like quite far away. And I'm never like up that way for work or anything. Anyway. Would you get a day flight if you were to go up there or would you more of an overnight red eyeeye, save a bit of money type? What do you reckon? From now on, I mean daytime only. Okay.

Anyway, so I went up there to visit and I was just there for the weekend, but my sister Libby, her kids are seven and nine. So they're little. They're the ones who made the naughty sign. The aunt's toddy sign. The naughty sign the naughty sign um anyway and so it had been a really long time since i saw my sister in real life yeah pre-covid wow so like a few years and like we talk on the phone and and whatever but i hadn't seen her in real life distance plus covid

is hard right um and anyway and so like I obviously we send pictures backwards and forwards of like her kids and Pippa and us and whatever. So I like knew the kids, but I hadn't really spent a lot of time with them since they were little, little. And anyway, they read a lot and they like love books. Yep. Well, they made me these signs for the airport. So they're sporty like their auntie?

No. Well, so my nephew, Lawson, who's nine, he is, like, an amazing swimmer. Oh, great. So he swims, like, four times a week. Whoa. So he actually is an amazing swimmer like his Aunt Toddy. So before you turn into an absolute Carla Conti about, oh, so they're sporty like their auntie, don't be a jerk. Sorry.

It turns out kids can read and be good at sport at the same time. But why is me not being sporty a problem? It's not. But then why did just then you went, oh, so sporty like you? I just don't associate people being able to read good and play sport well. Okay. Well, anyway. But we're all not multitaskers like the Lodges.

Exactly right. Anyway, so they've like got all these books and they're like, oh, Aunt Toddy, do you want to read this book with us? I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just talking to mum at the moment because I hadn't seen my sister in so long. And literally they picked me up from the airport. We got there at 1 p.m. And at 4 a.m.

we went, we've got to go to bed. So you're just chatting. We just chatted the whole time. Anyway, and so I was catching up with my sister and they're like, oh, Aunt Toddy, can we play this game? And I was like, oh, yeah, like in a sec, like, oh, we're just, give me one minute. time anyway and so i was catching up with with my sister and they're like oh i'm trying to play this game and i was like oh yep like in a sec like oh we're just give me one minute if you want to go set up the game i'll come down there and they're like begging me to play this game and obviously i wanted to but it was like i was so torn because i wanted to keep chatting with her but i wanted to

play with them it's like trying to spread myself Anyway, they're like begging me to play this game. And I sat down and they go, oh, Aunt Toddy, have you ever played Yahtzee before? And I go, have I ever played Yahtzee before? Absolutely. Step aside. Oh. Oh. And so I sit down, school them at Yahtzee. Of course.

Like absolutely slay them. I get my top bonus. I'm getting a Yahtzee. I actually got a Yahtzee bonus, course. Like absolutely slay them. I get my top bonus. I'm getting a Yahtzee. I actually got a Yahtzee bonus, which is 100 points, which is very impressive. That is impressive. I rolled a Yahtzee, right? So you know how in Yahtzee you get three rolls?

Sure. What? Not a big Yahtzee player. On our live stream for this month, we're gonna play yahtzee for our champion tarpa live stream for patreon we're gonna play yahtzee sign up while you can yep yep and i'm gonna fucking destroy ya anyway so we sit down i rolled a yahtzee right so in yahtzee there's five dice you get three rolls my first and second second roll, I only had one six. Third roll, four sixes.

Yahtzee, baby. Like, it does not get much better than that. It does not. Anyway, and so, you know, they don't really know, like, the best things to put in each box. And I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, if you put that there, and they go, no, I want to put that there. I was like, okay, like, I'm not going to tell you what to do.

Schooled them in Yahtzee. Schooled them in Yahtzee. How old are they again? Smashed them, seven and nine. Okay, great. And I go, oh, cool. Like, all right, well, like, what score did you get? And one of them goes, oh, 150.

And I was like, oh, okay, what did you get, Lawson? He goes, oh, 189. And I was like, well, I got 326. And they go, oh, okay. Oh, so no win for us this time. And I was like, suck ass. Without really thinking about the fact that I'm 79. You're bullying primary school age children.

My little babies who are just little babies. And I said, cool, like, rack them up. Like, let's play again. Aunt Toddy's on a roll. And they go. Maybe I can get 400 next time. Yeah. Yeah. How's that second Yancey bonus look? Yeah, I really fucking teach you

guys. I go, alright, rack them up, let's play again. And they go, we might play the switch now, Aunt Toddy. They shut you down after begging for hours. They wrapped you up. All they wanted was to play with me and play this board game, read the books and stuff.

And then I finally was like, oh yeah all right, I'll sit down with you. And then I didn't, like, let them win. And they were very honourable losers. Great. That's how you're going to learn. But I was probably, like, a little bit of a sore winner. Did they come to the airport with you when you left? No, actually.

So let me get this straight. The day before, because you only stayed there for one night, they rocked up to the airport with signs. Handmade signs. And there was a sign on my door when I got to the house as well. And then you bullied them into submission playing Yahtzee, then they refused to even come to the airport? A lot's happened in that 24 hours.

Yeah. Have they called since? No, I haven't spoken to them since. Because they usually send a text or a message. Yeah, that's actually a really good point. Yeah, No, I haven't spoken to them since. Because they usually send a text or a message. Yeah, that's actually a really good point. Yeah. No, I haven't. When you left, were they like, oh, come back soon?

No, they're like, bye. See, missed you, Aunt Toddy, but bye. Maybe they're looking for another pandemic to lock us apart for a little while. Anyway. I mean, they moved to Darwin. Like, there are some rumors there's other reasons involved, but primarily to get away from you. I have heard that.

They can't actually travel any further in Australia and be further away from where you are. Unless I move to Tasmania. It's the only way that we could get further apart is if I move further away. Those kids are going to grow up and try and build extreme wealth for them to buy you a house further away from them. Anyway, and they're like, oh, we might play the Switch now. Did you offer to play the Switch with them? build extreme wealth for them to buy you a house further away from them. Anyway, and they're like, oh, we might play the Switch now.

Did you offer to play the Switch with them? And so I was like, oh, okay. Like, what, do you guys want to do something? Are you sure you don't want to play another game or do something else? They're like, oh, like maybe we'll play our Duplo after or something. Like we kind of keep ourselves busy. We're self-sufficient. And I was like, oh, okay. And then I was like, well, I mean, in the options,

like I either let them win or I don't and I didn't. Okay. Yeah, no, I'm with you on that. You know how I said before, like, you don't play to the best of your ability, but you do enough to beat them? Like, what were their scores again? Like, you know, the low to mid hundreds. Could you have got 195 200 landed in

that area well i i just shouldn't have to dull my own shine for others you know what you're right you know and just because the rest of your family's illiterate and suck at games i didn't maybe have to go sucker but yeah i mean maybe that could have because there's learning how to lose yeah and there's also learning how to win. Yeah. And be gracious in victory and a good sport. Yeah. And so if you...

Say if 10 is being a great sport and very humble and loser is being a good jerk, where on that scale do you think the delivery of suckers... Where do you think that lands? Probably an 11 on jerk. Past the point of no return. What about if they're 7 and 9 and you're an adult? Yeah, that's a 20.

That's a 20 out of 10. That's some good self-awareness. Yeah. Well, so what I kind of was thinking is that like I don't get to see my rematch. I don't get to see my nieces and nephews a lot because we all live really separate. Like what would you like me to do with your daughter?

Oh. Like, do you want me. Stay outside the house for one. Do you want me to let her. And obviously we're like a bit far away. Like, you know. You don't want her in Darwin. No, no, no.

I mean, like in time. Before we're going to be playing board games together. Like, they don't come out of the womb shooting Yahtzee. You don't know that. Well, if she does, I'll be very impressed. Yeah, she'll beat you. Yeah, she won't. I reckon she'll beat you by the time she's four.

Write that down. Calendar note for sometime in May 2027. And am I playing to the best of my ability in 2027? You'll have to. Oh, mate. You've got no idea what you've just awoken in me. I can see it. There's veins popping I've never seen pop before.

She's adjusting her neck like she's about to start a boxing match. Okay. Well, so I was going to be gracious and say, you know, because, like, everybody obviously raised their children different. Some people, they let their kids win. Some people, you know. But so you reckon maybe just an even playing field until 2027 and then I'd like hit the switch.

I just believe in general that the, and this is coming from a guy a few weeks before the child, who knows what this answer will be like in a month. That's true, yeah. And let me just say that I'm aware. Yeah, you don't have to lock it in. You're allowed to change. That's okay.

But I think you need, similar to like learning how to lose, learning how things don't always work out the way you want them to. Sometimes you've got to like let your kids learn about the real world and not pander them too much. Is it a bit like, you know, like when you've got kids and if you've got like there's something hot or whatever, you go, oh, like don't touch. But you can only tell them so much.

Like they need to. You only need to touch a hot pan once to know it's hot. To know that that's, you know. And then you never make that mistake again, unless you're two orbs because he's a fucking idiot. Well, that was an accident. So it's not as if he went, what's that? Well, the way he would describe it, that was pretty much what he did. No, he didn't.

What did he do? He grabbed the hot bit of the pan? No, he grabbed the normal, like the. Handle. The handle. And the cooktop was uneven. What did he do? He grabbed the hot bit of the pan? No, he grabbed the normal, like the handle, and the cooktop was uneven. And so when he went to put it down, it like slid back onto his hand. That is unfortunate.

Yeah. So, okay. You've really gone for me and my sporting ability, my boyfriend's cooking ability. What I'm saying is. You're being a bit nasty. I'm not going to let your daughter win. You need to live your best life.

Yeah. And don't let my daughter dictate you in your actions. Okay. You do what you do what you got to do. Okay. Thank you. I'll take that on. Yeah.

Yeah. And when she comes crying to me, I'll know that I actually literally asked for this. That's true. Yeah. That is true. She's going to have so many life skills. I'm going to teach her so much. Please don't.

She's going to know how to hot glue gun before she can walk. Don't let – Hey, she's only going to do it once. When do they start walking? I don't know. Six? One? Twelve?

I don't know. Twelve months. No hot glue gun in the first year. Write that down as well, Cam. A year from a couple of weeks from now-ish. At least the first year. She'll be hot glue gunning before you know it. You reckon she'll be crafty?

She's going to craft. I don't mean that in a sneaky way. I mean actually into craft. She's going to be crafty. Okay. She's going to love crafting with her aunt, Toddy. Okay. I've got a feel-good family you love to see, and it feels right.

Oh, okay. Given what we've just spoken about. This has come through from Stacey Cook. Hi, Stacey. I have an amazing, sounds completely made up, but 100% real, you love to see it. Okay. Does that make us, that's supposed to put us at ease, but that makes us all fucking sass. Oh, this is a true story.

It actually definitely happened. Yeah. My husband works at a farm in Ontario, Canada, and the family that owns the farm are good friends with Ryan Gosling's parents. That's amazing. Amazing. And they said his dad's like a really friendly guy and I've met him a few times and they're just like a wholesome

country family doing their thing. That's amazing. That's a great story. My husband saw him on March 29 and the specifics of the dates are important so stick with me here. Okay. But he hasn't seen him since last year because

the dad has been with Ryan Gosling in Australia. You know how Ryan Gosling's filming in Australia? Oh, yes. I've seen on the Daily Mail and stuff that they're like, oh, my God, spot him. Yeah, and so the family must have like, oh, come over for Christmas. We'll all stay in a house in Sydney together.

Ryan's working, but at least we can all be together. So having not seen Ryan Gosling's dad since March 29, drops him with a happy new year. Because he hadn't seen him since last year. Ryan Gosling's dad. Dropped a happy new year almost in April. My husband listens to this podcast and had heard all the trials and tribulations of the happy new year.

And how late you can go. And absolutely fucking lost it at this Happy New Year delivered on March 29. Oh, wait, so Ryan Gosling's dad said it. Yeah, like. Oh, I thought you meant he said it to Ryan Gosling's dad. So he's like, oh, hey, mate, how you been? He's like, oh, Happy New Year. And then the tarpa is going, oh, my God.

Not only is this Ryan Gosling's dad, but this is like the funniest story. So what are you saying? Ryan Gosling's dad listens to the podcast. No. Oh. The husband listens to the podcast and he receives. So the guy unknowingly. No, but Ryan Gosling's dad has taken the challenge we set.

Yes. After listening to the podcast. No. Oh. Maybe he thinks the podcast is Tony and Ryan Gosling. Yeah, and he's supporting his son. Fuck, how good looking is Ryan Gosling? I'll do fucking anything for that guy.

So, sorry. Sorry. I just can't. So you guys are like two away from Ryan Gosling. That's a good point. A bonus you love to see it is that I've moved up from, they've moved from handshake greeting to they're hugging friends now. And so Stacey says,

so I'm basically two degrees of separation from hugging Ryan Gosling. She's hugging a guy who's hugging a guy who's hugging a guy who's Ryan. Oh, that's three steps away. Husband, dad, other dad. No, but they said it to her husband. Yeah. Yeah, so that's three. So she's fucking her husband, her husband's hugging the dad

and the dad's probably hugging Ryan Gosling. Is Ryan Gosling practically hosting this show now? Ryan Gosling is in the room. No. Did you just look at the door? I did.

Is he? Ryan literally looked at the door to be like, is he coming in? No, he's not here. He's not here. So if anyone followed along. He wasn't available. I enjoyed that. I don't know if anyone followed along with that.

I don't know if that was confusing. It was quite confusing. Thank you. But I love to see that. You heard what I said. You heard what I said. You heard what I said. You're so flustered. I am.

You thought Ryan Gosling was here and now you're bloody all over the place. I'm picturing a nine-month-old baby with a hot glue gun. I'm stressed. My love to see it is a recommendation. So I obviously ended up playing a lot of board games with my family over the weekend. so I obviously ended up playing a lot of board games with my family over the weekend and they played this great game and it's called Exploding Kittens.

Okay. And it's like the number one Kickstarter ever. It's like a board game from Kickstarter and I liked the game so much that I flew home and played it and then producer Cam ended up coming over for dinner and I was like, oh my God, I'm going to go and buy this game because I want to play it. Physical? Yeah, it's like a physical card game.

Yeah. And it's called Exploding Kittens, I think. Exploding Kittens. I'm going to say double check though because I'd hate to say that. Don't Google that. Yeah, no. Exploding Kittens. Could you imagine?

Oh, Tony's had a Google Exploding Kittens. Oh, whoa. Oh, whoa. That's what I think. There's a whole YouTube I didn't expect to fall down. The game is so good and we played it and we really liked it. That's a good recommendation. So it's a great recommendation. Yeah, if you need a card game for you and the fam, I'd go nuts.

Order it tonight. It'll be here tomorrow. You can play it on the weekend. And in the meantime, you can watch Jury Duty that I recommended yesterday. You know what? I love to see that. Now I hear someone else say it, it does sound special.

Alright, well tomorrow on the show, um, video show is re... I was going to make a joke about Ryan Gosling and then I went, really? So it's really it's not going well for us today. Tomorrow on the show, I shared something with Tony and today. Tomorrow on the show, I shared something with Tony and Cam. Tomorrow on the show, I shared something.

Tomorrow on the show, dot, dot, dot. I shared something with. I was like, what? I shared something with Tony and Cam. I shared it with the people in Patreon. Your seed. So I don't know what happened then. I actually blacked out.

It's the thoughts of exploding kittens that got you all revved up. And the Ryan Gosling. Probably more the Gos. I think it's beautiful, but my wife thinks it's completely fucked. And people have their opinions about something I did, not to my pregnant wife, but near my pregnant wife. I mean, she's seen there as well. Can't get pregnant twice.

Sorry. Sorry. Tony. All right, bye. See you the fuck later tomorrow. I love you. To me or? I love to see it. I love to see that.

Put this shirt back on. Fucking hell. Lucky this isn't a video show. We would have been taken down and booted off the Spotify app. Take me down. Tony. Sorry. Love you, bye.