Toni and Ryan - Lodge vs Streisand

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Tony and Ryan podcast. My name is Ryan. This is Dr. Author Tony Lodge. Welcome. We are calling Buffalo in New York. Buffalo Soldier. And we're calling Hannah, who has a pretty random job. Let's give her a buzz. Buffalo sauce that came from Buffalo, New York. Did you know that? We've recently learned this, yes. While we're eating wings at a hotel.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Eating wings. Chicken wangs. Chicken wang. Wank. Hello. Hannah. Hannah, it's Tony and Ryan. How are you doing? Good.
Starting point is 00:00:40 How are you? We're good. We just learned that buffalo sauce comes from Buffalo, New York. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Congratulations for being from there. Yeah, that's a real achievement. Hannah, I've got a question about your occupation. I believe you're an aerial artist and I want to know what the hell that means.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Like a pilot? Not like a pilot not like a pilot so do you know like the Cirque du Soleil artists that like hang from fabric from the ceiling like pink yeah yeah like pink that's what I do I teach it I perform it locally oh it's a great time that's incredible yeah oh there's no way I'm actually in a production this weekend doing that. That's crazy. Do you think, because Tony's tried a lot of things, stand-up paddle boarding, she got a...
Starting point is 00:01:32 I'm collecting experiences. Yeah, she's got the, what are the walking things in the home called again? The treadmills at home. Treadmills. I did roller derby once. Roller derby. Do you think being an aerial artist is like a fun hobby that Tony could, you know, be like a little 2024 project?
Starting point is 00:01:48 Oh, yeah, definitely. I would say give it a try. Everyone can start. Everyone can give it a try. I think it's really fun. Fuck, that's our point today. You don't have to get super far off the ground. Your core must be insane.
Starting point is 00:02:05 It's core and a lot of upper body as well. I've got neither of those. They're our weaknesses. I actually just go from boobs to fanny. There's no core. No core involved. I actually think that I had it removed as a child. Because I don't think I have one.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Hannah, will you approve today's episode? Of course I'll approve today's episode. She did that from the air. Hey, it's Hannah from Buffalo, New York, and I approve this podcast. I would like everyone to know that there's a calamity in the office and carnage has broken out. A calamity. I like that.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Tony has spent three weeks in Canva making a big, what I'm going to say is a passive-aggressive sign. No, no, no, no. I would take that. It took me a long time. It says, is it Monday? If so, could you put the bin out? That is not what it fucking says.
Starting point is 00:03:11 What does it say? And you know that. It says, is it Monday? Is it Monday? Can you please put out the bin? And look, it's got a happy little bin on there. How could you take that in a nasty way? Yeah, it's the exclamation mark for me.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Is it Monday? Is it Monday? No, no, no, no. See, you're doing that thing that I do. You're reading that how you want to take that. That's up to you. But the calamity is that we've realised that putting the bin out on the Monday is the wrong day.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's actually Tuesday. Yeah. And so what's going to happen to the sign? Well, we're just discussing it, whether I just cross it out and write Tuesday or whether we can look at that and just remember. Maybe that's an option. And also crossing it out will just remind you for the rest of the time we're in this space that you made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, and we've signed like a five-year lease, so that's not good. I think that I'm going to remake it, though it did pop the poster into the thread so that people can see it. But as you can see, it's like a gradient kind of vibe. So it actually took like a lot of ink. To print, yeah. I reckon that one print job, it would have been cheaper
Starting point is 00:04:19 for you to call the council and get them to build a sign. Or change the bin day. Maybe it would be worth it. Then all that colour printing. Yeah, it's because we're right on the line of like two bin days, which is why. So maybe we could just ask them. And the line of different councils.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It's been a calamity. It has. It's taken us a long time to even get a bin. We had a printer before we had a bin. I'm going to have to also make some adjustments because I have been making a rebuttal sign. Why? Why? It rebuttal sign. Why? Why?
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's a nice sign. Yours says, is it Monday? How about put the bin out? And mine says, is it Tuesday to Friday? How about mind your fucking business? So I'm going to have to say, is it Monday? Not Tuesday, but maybe Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. Bins, all good.
Starting point is 00:05:02 James, I have a question for you. How do you read? Please tell us, how do you read that, like when you look at it, do you see, is it Monday? Don't put the kids in between mum and dad. There's an exclamation mark. Yeah. There's a lot of exclamation marks. That's aggressive.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I don't use exclamation marks. I mean exclamation marks as in like nice, nice, nice. When I use one, I'm like, wow, smile, smile, smile. That's not how it comes across. Well, that's your fucking problem. And you and James can fuck off. See? The impassive aggression is coming through.
Starting point is 00:05:33 All right. Tomorrow on the show. No, we haven't done this one yet. Tomorrow on the show, because today is looking pretty full, there's some more housekeeping issues. And, Tony, you've said you are the head of HR. Yes, I am. You said you are.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I actually have tomorrow off. So I won't be here. You are the chief first aid officer. Yes, I am. And the first aid kit apparently has come in quite handy. Would you say, considering those two other things, it would be assumed that you're also in charge of OH&S? Yeah, I can do that because I'm also in charge of people
Starting point is 00:06:09 and culture, which is quite nice. Like, you know, like setting up fun things for the office. I haven't done any of that yet, you guys. Sorry. It's not very fun. Isn't it funny how head of HR isn't called that anymore? People and culture. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 It's feelings and performance. They actually should change it to like protecting the company and not you. Sorry, that's past trauma if ever I've heard it. That's HR work for the company. They don't work for the people. And you know what? When I realised that, my literal life changed.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yeah. Because I thought that HR was for me. It's fucking not. No, it's not. It's for the big dogs. But I don't think they pretended to be. But I just assumed HR was for me. It's fucking not. No, it's not. It's for the big dogs. But I don't think they pretended to be. But I just assumed that because they're like,
Starting point is 00:06:50 you can talk to us about anything. I thought it was like a little therapy moment. No, no, no. It's not. No. They're writing everything down and they send it to your boss and then your boss goes, what the fuck? Yeah. And you go, oh.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You remember the place that we worked and they had that anonymous phone line you could call and ask for advice and you wouldn't know who it was or whatever? Yeah, but they always know. They always know. So you go, okay, you call off the line. Hi, I'm just having a- Or you have to call them first.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh. Beep, boop, beep, beep, bop, boop. Oh, sorry, I've made a typo. Beep, bop, beep, boop, beep, boop, bop. Oh, fucking hell. Sorry, I didn't put the area code in. It's 1-300-HELP in the workplace. 1-300-HELP in the workplace.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Hello, anonymous HR tips. I'm on hold. Hello. Hi, I'm actually just- Oh, hey, Tony. Are you coming to the work drinks on Friday? I thought this was anonymous because I'm just having a few problems with my manager. Yeah, please tell me all about it.
Starting point is 00:07:53 What's his name? His name is a bit like mine. Seeing as you know who it is. So, Tony, tell me, what is the anonymous problem? Well, anonymously, I feel like this maybe isn't anonymous. So, I think that's actually fine and we get along great. Well, that's not what he said about you. At the work drinks last Friday, I wasn't at.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, that little bitch. Yeah, so never anonymous. Never anonymous. No. Should we do normal or no? Let's do normal or no. Or do you think that's past now? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's here. Normal or past? Normal or past. No, let's do normal or no. Thanks to everyone for submitting them in the Tony and Ryan Facebook group or TonyandRyan.com.au. Do you think that we've just besmirched the good name of people in HR? Because I feel like-
Starting point is 00:08:46 They don't have a good name. But do you think that people in HR believe that they're like, they are for the people? Because I reckon there would be companies that it is more good than the fuck of ones we worked at. There are some good HR people, but I think the concept of they work for the company. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:02 But that's what I didn't understand. But if the people are happy and that means they're performing well, that is good for the company. So there is a middle ground. Yeah. I don't want to explain to you guys what a Venn diagram is. No, because you wouldn't. Because I wouldn't and I definitely haven't done that in the past
Starting point is 00:09:16 and mansplained it to everyone. That's not what I do. A fucking Venn diagram. But there is. I've talked to HR about that. There is some crossover where it can be beneficial for everyone. In a perfect world, which is rare, but in a perfect world. Yeah, yep.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Normal or nah? Normal or nah. Vicky Evans has a normal or nah. Vicky who? Vicky who? Dunking your biscuit in someone else's cup of tea. What? Call fucking HR.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Vicky says, not sure if it's just a British issue but my fella thinks it's okay to dunk his biscuit in my tea it's a big fucking nah from me I have never heard such a violation
Starting point is 00:09:59 in all my days I think it's bad enough when you've got your own crummies at the bottom of your cup, let alone someone else's. I haven't even gotten to enjoy the little soggy, little warm biscuit, but I've got to deal with the crummies? If, and the answer might be never, but how long, like how tight a bond do you have to be before you start dunking
Starting point is 00:10:23 in their juice? You have to have done anal. I think if you've done anal with someone, then that would allow this kind of conversation to come up. You don't have to say yes because you've already done anal. You've already given them quite a bit. But I think that if you've done anal, you can be open to the situation. So you and I.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, I was going to say, so Tony and I would have had hours and hours where I couldn't have dunked my tea. You know what I did the other day? So, Vicky, you let us know whether it's okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, rebuttal question. Yeah, so you let us know. I think that is, that is over the line, surely. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Would you ever? With you again? No. You know what I did the other day which was like really nice and naughty? Got that tattoo on the lower back changed? Dunk in my tea. No. You are now welcome.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I've got a stamp system on my lower back. Yeah, tenth one free. Tenth one is tea, actually. Dunk in my tea. No, I had a little, there was like some Tim Tams in the fridge. They've been in there for ages. I think Torbs and I are playing chicken on like who's going to eat them because you know when there's like only a couple left and you go, I won't because you'll know that
Starting point is 00:11:47 then either, you know. And I made a coffee. It was like 3pm which is like. You'll be up all night. Oh no. Bridget said that because I was threatening to make affogatos last weekend because we got some nice ice cream and I went What are they called? Affogato. What are they called? Affogato. Sorry. Yeah, you should? Avocado. Sorry. Yeah. You should have done it. That's nummies.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And then later she's like, oh, you mentioned avocados before. And she said that at five o'clock. And I was like. How come you would never drink a coffee past four, but you'd have an espresso martini at 11? Because you're a fuckhead. I mean, the royal you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also Bridget could just pound coffee and go to sleep,
Starting point is 00:12:24 but I'll be up all night. I'm actually not as bad as I used to be, but I also drink more coffee now than I ever have in my life. Because you've got a coffee machine at home and you're just living the dream. But we also have a little routine now where we have a coffee in the morning. Anyway, the other day I had a coffee at 3 p.m. and a little Tim Tam double coat and I did the little Tim Tam slam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And I crumbled a little biscuit in my mouth. It was really good. That's it. Yeah, it was really, really good. This is a bit dark, but I think it can be an uplifting and positive chat. Oh, great. This is from Greer Berry. Hi, Greer.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Normal or nah, having a Spotify playlist that you compile for your funeral. So it's like a bit morbid to talk about, but don't you think the worst way to go out is some other asshole playing his tunes? Yeah, or they, you know, accidentally hit shuffle and Barbie Girl starts playing. You know, what a drama. Wesley should go, these are my favourite songs.
Starting point is 00:13:23 These are how I want to be remembered. When I die, here's the playlist. Off you go. I'm going to say normal. I don't have one for me, but I've got a selection of songs for Torbs. Are you planning something? Nah, I just know that like in that moment, I'll probably be so beside myself that I won't think about all of the things
Starting point is 00:13:45 that I want to, like, do and say. Or if I'm gone, I don't trust anybody else to plan his funeral the way that I could. Like, no one knows him the way that I do. So I've definitely thought about what songs for him. Are you willing to share one? One is Wait by M83, which if you know that song, it is so fucking depressing.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Right. But it's really, really beautiful. You know how sometimes people go, oh, it's not a funeral, it's a celebration of life. I love that. Yeah, and they kind of want it to be like really positive and share all the great moments. Does the playlist have to reflect that?
Starting point is 00:14:21 But I think there's still some, like, moments of reflection. I don't think it's a party the whole time. I think you still need, I think it's more that the wake should be happier than sad. Can you make sure if I pass away, God bless? God forbid is what you say, not God bless. I'm religious. If I pass away, God bless.
Starting point is 00:14:48 If I pass away, bless you. If you pass away, nice one. Kung fu fighting, maybe, maybe not. Yeah, that's in my maybe pile for you. Nicki Minaj and Justin Bieber, beauty and a beat. Beauty and a beat. Because people go, what's two things about Ryan? They go, Beauty, Beat.
Starting point is 00:15:06 What's the Beat refer to for you? Just crushing Beats. Yeah, okay. Just the Beats. You're always going to Beat Root on the go. He's just crushing Beats. Yep, add it to the playlist. Sophie's writing it down.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We got it. There's a tarpa called Sue Tia. Hi, Sue. And that's not a level of Patreon. That is her name. Fuck, how long do you work on that for? Jesus. God bless.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Bart, fucking hell. Achoo. God bless. God bless you. Fucking hell, we're off the rick da Okay yep Sue Tia has a normal on now Hi Sue Sue Tia
Starting point is 00:15:51 I hardly know her Yeah hi Sue Sue Bless you Bless Sue Hey that's my joke. Don't say that. I'll sue you.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I'm so sorry. You know what I feel like after this? Sushi? A tiramisu. Everybody was come to find him. Here we go. Oh. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 That's it. I just found out some people read the end of the book first to see if it's worth reading. Surely there's nothing normal about this, says Sue. I'm a nah for this. I don't really, I don't even like reading any of the next page. Like if I'm stopping, I like will shut the book or turn my Kindle off before i even say
Starting point is 00:17:05 like what's at the beginning of the next chapter no spoilers because i just really otherwise i go oh what's gonna happen and then especially if it's a really good book yeah um but reading the last like little bit i'm like oh what yeah what yeah it's like it's a murder mystery steve did it yeah i think also being like oh to try and figure out whether you like it you will find that out Yeah, what, yeah. It's a murder mystery, Steve, didn't it? Yeah, I think also being like, oh, to try and figure out whether you like it, you will find that out from the beginning of the book too. The author made a choice of which order to write it in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So you know how I used to work with Rosie? Yes. She used to read the last page of a book because she was like, oh, if I die, I want to know how it ends. But often the ending isn't on the last, like. Yeah, it's usually like that's mopping up. Yeah, like that's normally just like. And they all live happily ever after or whatever. It's not normally like, there's not a quick fucking cliff notes on like,
Starting point is 00:17:58 no, what happened in the book. Again, morbid question. Morbid question. But imagine you're on your deathbed. A terrible accident has occurred. Oh, don't. A tragedy. God bless.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Those wasps in your roof have attacked you, the killer bees. There are wasps in Tony's roof. My roof is haunted, I think. It really is. Yeah. And so they go on a stinging spree and you're about to die and you've got 15 seconds left and you're like, oh, my God. And then you go,, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And then you go, Tobbs, how does that book finish? Like is that going to be – you know what I mean? You're just not going to give a fuck. I feel like things like books and movies are a real condiment of life. I don't think it's something that like – it's not in your hot dog. Like if we think about life as a hot dog. Yeah, but we've talked about anal. Now you're talking about hot dogs and I'm just lost. Oh, sorry. But like if you think about life as a hot dog. Yeah, but we've talked about anal. Now you're talking about hot dogs and I'm just lost. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But, like, if you think about life as a hot dog and then the condiments of life are, like, things that you enjoy. Like, if you're on your deathbed and someone hands you a hot dog, you're not going to go, do you have any tomato sauce? Like, you're going to be like, yeah, I need this sustenance. Well, okay, there's a lot to unpack here. Well, maybe deathbed's not right. A hot dog without tomato sauce is save the fucking hot dog. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Okay, but, all right, not your deathbed because you probably would ask for tomato sauce because you're like, this is the last thing I'm ever going to eat. Yeah. What if you've been in the desert? God bless. Like, let's hope this doesn't happen. But you've been in the desert for eight days, haven't eaten anything. Someone hands you a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:19:14 You're not going to go, do you have any tomatoes? I would ask that. No, you wouldn't. If the answer was no, I'd go, okay, but like next time. No, you wouldn't even ask. So I think that books and stuff, they're not the thing that you're thinking about. So what is the sausage of life? I'd probably want Torbs there. He is the sausage of life? I'd probably want Torbs there.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He is the sausage of life. Because he's my sausage of life. He can dunk his biscuit in my tea. You know what I mean? Hey, it's Hannah from Buffalo, New York, and you're listening to Tony and Ryan. A massive shout-out to a few of our champion tapas over at our Patreon. Shout-out. Shout-out.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Robin Cherry. Robin what? No. Matthew Kilbourne. Good on you, Matty. Who'd you steal that from? Jay. Good on you.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Georgia Woods and Cara. Thanks, Cara. Thanks so much for being part of our Patreon. Heaps of stuff over there. Exclusive stuff. Exclusive and Champion Tarpers will be able to see our behind-the-scenes video. It was posted yesterday of the snakes trying to go through customs in New Zealand. Tony and I actually drew snakes that had a little behind-the-scenes snake-off,
Starting point is 00:20:38 for lack of a better word. We did have a snake-off, yeah. So you can check that out. A snake-off. I've got a challenge for you this weekend. For me? For you and everyone listening is a challenge. I want you to drop into a conversation this weekend the Streisand effect.
Starting point is 00:20:54 What's that? Do you not know about the Streisand effect? No. Like Barbara Streisand? Yeah. It's an online phenomenon and it's happening right here in Australia. Online phenomenon? Yeah. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:21:04 If you drop this at like a dinner party or you're at a bar, people will be like, oh, that guy's really interesting. That's really. And if you're on a date and you drop this, I reckon they'll go, oh, this guy's smart and got substance. But you're talking about it now and I don't think you're smart. Like. We don't know what it is yet.
Starting point is 00:21:20 But then how am I going to drop it into comments? I'm going to tell you what it is. But then if the people that I'm talking about, then I then have to explain it, they're going to be as bored as I am. No, but the explaining is the thing. It sounds like you want me to read the last page of the book. So the strides and effect. Oh, my God, you're so interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I love it already. I hate this. Sorry. I regret everything. We got silly early on and then. The Streisand effect is when you try to hide or remove something from the public eye, but in trying to hide it or remove it, you actually draw more attention to it
Starting point is 00:22:07 and thus the opposite of what you want occurs. You're talking about fucking Gina Reinhart. Well, not fucking Gina Reinhart. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because as I was saying, there's been a lot of Streisand effects in the public eye. Let me give you the original, which is Barbara Streisand herself,
Starting point is 00:22:23 which is why it's coined that. And then we'll get into Australian mining magnate Gina Reinhart and how the ultimate backfire and the ultimate Streisand effect has taken place. Yeah. Yeah. So Barbara Streisand, how successful? Like in the 80s and that huge, right?
Starting point is 00:22:40 But still now, make the fuckers great film. Great film. She's a good actor. She is amazing. Like's a good actor. She is amazing. Like a good comedy actor. And because back in the day, like she did the original like Star Is Born, you know, the one with Lady Gaga. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The original one is her. Yeah, right. Yeah. And so like she'd done everything. Have you seen Beaches? No. I can't. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I can't do it. What's that? Her and Bette Midler. Yeah. Yeah. The Wings Beneath Midler. Yeah. The wings beneath my wind. Yeah. So very successful.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It's done very well for herself. And she actually lives in this cliff top mansion in Malibu that's like on top of the cliff overlooking the ocean, like, you know, just the most beautiful Malibu, California house. Incredible, right? Oh, beautiful. Yeah, incredible. And every few years, now this is the real boring part.
Starting point is 00:23:31 No, I'm with you. Every few years, the Department of Conservation flies a helicopter along the coast of California and takes photos of the cliffs so they can document coastal erosion. Yeah. So they compare to last time and go, oh, geez, there's a bit of crumbling. We might have to support that and blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Like pretty normal kind of Department of Conservation stuff. Super normal. So it turns out in one of the photos you can see Barbara Streisand's house because she's got this cliff top mansion. Yeah. But seeing someone's house doesn't mean you know. Oh, sorry. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:06 So in two years that photo was downloaded four times, right? Yeah. But Barbara Streisand. So it's publicly available. Yeah. Like people can see it. Yeah, and it's known as image 18472 or something because there's literally the whole coastline of fucking California.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But Barbara Streisand finds out that her house is on there and she goes, well, I'm going to sue the Department of Conservation for taking a photo and publishing my house. Now, I remind you, four people had downloaded it and they might not even know it was Barbara Streisand's house. Like you don't know it's her house. Just saying a house doesn't mean you know anything about it. But if Barbara Streisand's suing a government department,
Starting point is 00:24:47 can you imagine the brouhaha that took place back in the day? It's in all the papers. Especially with like the Department of Conservation. The Department of Conservation. People are like, oh, well, do you not care about nature? Yeah, so they're piping up. She's piping up. She's trying to sue for a million bucks.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It's in all the newspapers. And the thing that was downloaded four times ended up being downloaded 420,000 times, spread across the papers, TMZ, the news and blah, blah, blah. And keep in mind, the goal of this was for people to not see the image. Or not know where she lived, yeah. So four people went from not much to millions and thus the Streisand effect is born.
Starting point is 00:25:33 You'd be so gutted though because you'd be like, oh, if I don't say something, what if it gets out anyway? So I get what she's trying to like get out ahead of her. So she wrote a book later, like a bit of a memoir. Yeah. And she's like oh like yeah as time would have it like if i had my chance again i just would not have done that because it backfired and i just was a bit protective but in the end see i actually understand oh i get it but the result
Starting point is 00:25:56 was so much worse and people probably have like a really different idea of her now yeah you know they go oh well that was really uncool for her. I'm like, oh, but if you're, she's been around, she's that famous. She would definitely have had like a stalker or two in her time. Yeah, she had a couple. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's not as if, like, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah. Like, it's not as if she wouldn't be like, well, that obviously can't get out. Yeah. Oh, but now she kind of reflects and goes, fuck, I wish I didn't do anything. Yeah, should have just shut the fuck up maybe. I wouldn't mind having an effect named after me though.
Starting point is 00:26:29 The Lodge Effect. Like that would feel pretty good. What would the Lodge Effect be? Haven't decided yet. Should people say what they think it would be? Maybe not. No, I think we'll go with it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:46 If the lodge effect was something, what would it be? Put it in today's episode thread in the Facebook group. But as you alluded to earlier, and I've got the picture just to remind you that Australian mining magnate, Gina Reinhart, she's Australia's richest person. Just have a look at that picture, would you? So quite a famous Australian Aboriginal artist has painted her portrait. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:14 In fairness, it actually doesn't really, like it does look like her, but I understand why she's like, oh, well, it's not maybe a great expression. So she said, I want it taken out of the National Gallery because I don't want people to see it. Yeah. Now, obviously, if you're going to the gallery, you would have seen it, but for the 99.9% of people not going to the gallery this month, we would have never have known about it and never have heard about it
Starting point is 00:27:43 and she's made a big stink about not wanting to see it. And now we're talking about it. It's all over the news. And not only is it everyone in Australia seeing it, it's actually ended up on the Colbert, the US late night talk show. Have a listen. In news from down under, a billionaire has called for the removal of an unflattering portrait of her
Starting point is 00:28:04 from the National Gallery of Australia. The woman in question is a controversial Australian mining billionaire named Gina Reinhart, seen here. But I mean, come on, how unflattering could this portrait possibly? OK, OK, OK. I got to say, I'm no art expert. Okay, I got to say, I'm no art expert, but in this portrait, I believe the artist really captured her expression at the moment she saw this portrait. Because she does look like she's just taken a shit and someone's walking to the room and she's going,
Starting point is 00:28:37 She looks quite shocked. Yeah. And she's got a bit of a frown on. And the photo you've shown next to it, objectively, we're not talking about who she is, what she does. We're talking objectively just about this. Just looks like a nice old lady. It's quite a nice photo of her on the right-hand side
Starting point is 00:28:52 that you've compared it to. It was also on a billboard in New York Times. It was a GoFundMe. Because it was like the leading story and, yeah. Someone goes, oh, if she doesn't want to see it, let's pop it up there. Yeah, just crazy, eh? So you're saying that in the effort of her trying
Starting point is 00:29:13 to make sure no one saw it, a billion. Maybe we've been reverse psychologied. She's like, no, I don't want anyone to say it. And she's like, my dream is to be on Colbert. Yeah. She's like, I don't want anyone to say it. And she's like, my dream is to be on Colbert. Yeah. She's like, I don't want anyone to say it. Quirky. That is smart.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I mean, no such press as bad press or whatever that saying is. Gina Reinhardt is a strategic lady. She plays the long game. I mean, she is the richest person in Australia. Yeah. Do you know what? Sorry to put you on the spot. Do you mean, she is the richest person in Australia. Yeah. I can't, do you know what, sorry to put you on the spot, do you know what her net worth is? Billions, yeah. Just to put it into
Starting point is 00:29:51 context of like. 31 billion US dollars. 31 billion US, fuck. What's your net worth, Dani? Like, literally this iPhone and this half-drunk and this half-drunk smoothie. Have you paid out your iPhone? No, I actually haven't. Just a smoothie then.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Just a smoothie then, I guess. Far out. Finally, there's been another great piece of the strident effect in Australia. There was this book. It's called Same Sex Parents. Yeah. And it was in a public library in Sydney and, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:22 the fucking, what are they called? Barbell brushes. Fuckheads, yeah. Fuckheads, but whatever. They're like, we can't have that in a children's library, heaven forbid, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We want to get it banned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Now, I did a little digging. I've done some investigative research. Hello. So this has been all over the news in Australia. Yeah. Especially in Sydney. Well, because it's saying like book banning in this day, like are you fucking for real?
Starting point is 00:30:48 I'll tell you what's crazy. The people that are crazy for free speech are the ones that are always trying to ban shit. Yeah. They're like, oh, well, people shouldn't be like open to that or seeing that. It's basically saying some people have a mum and dad, some just have a mum, some just have a dad,
Starting point is 00:31:02 some have two dads, some have two mums who really gives a fuck um that's beautiful thank you we're gonna get banned yeah for you saying that in i've done some research in the last five years yeah guess how many times that book's been borrowed and taken out of the library. 30? Once. And guess what's on the front pages now and getting spread around and has become an Amazon bestseller. Well, how'd that fucking go for you? Suck my dick, the people who are trying to get a pen. But they wouldn't. They wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:31:37 They wouldn't dare. That's the devil's activity. That's the devil's dick. But Same Sex Parents by Holly Dahl Goog do your own research on that one obviously Doug
Starting point is 00:31:50 Holly Doug fuck I was on my high horse as well and I really just fucked that no no no I think it's still good
Starting point is 00:31:56 but I think the fact that people are trying to close it down has just made it more popular yeah so Tony when you're out
Starting point is 00:32:02 this weekend and someone goes oh what's going on and you go oh how's that Barbara Streisand effect? And they go, what's that? Tell me more. And I'll be able to have the knowledge.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Do you reckon it'll get delayed? By my boyfriend, Jimmy? Try it on him. Okay. I know you guys are fighting at the moment. We are not fighting. We had one tiff. One tiff, he's not fighting. Okay. I know you guys are fighting at the moment. We are not fighting at the moment. We had one tiff. One tiff he's not fighting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Well, you're the only one. I'll just drive that effect away from bringing it back. I want to know what the Tony Lodge effect would be. That's what I'm invested in. I'm nervous for you. I wouldn't want to ask that. I've got to love to see it here. And maybe this actually is my Tony Lodge effect. Okay. I got a message from Layla on
Starting point is 00:32:43 Instagram the other day. Hey, Tony, quick question. We've never messaged before, so it went into my request. Okay. Hey, Tony Lodge effect. Okay. I got a message from Layla on Instagram the other day. Hey, Tony, quick question. We've never messaged before, so it went into my request. Okay. Hey, Tony, quick question. I just bought a house in Thomastown, our first house. Congratulations, Layla, out in the country near me. No, it is in the north side though.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And I thought I'd ask the lawn queen if she has any recommendations for a mower from Bunnings. And for some local conditions. Because I know the land. You're in the area. Yeah, I'm in the area. I know Bunnings well, even though my mower's not actually from Bunnings. What's the kind of sand to not sand ratio of the
Starting point is 00:33:17 dirt around this area? Mate, I actually wouldn't get into it here. We've already bored people enough with the Streisand effect today. It's been a long ep. I think, you know, if you want to get into that, we can talk into it here. Okay. We've already bored people enough with the Streisand effect today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a long ep. I think, you know, if you want to get into that, we could talk about it privately. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Also because I don't know. But I recommended a lawnmower to Layla, but I wonder if maybe this is the Tony Lodge effect. You can't hear lawn without thinking Tony Lodge. Tony Lodge. Yeah. But thank you, Layla, for hitting me up about the lawn. I love to see that.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I saw it and I went, oh, I literally went in capitals. I'm so, so, so, so, so honoured to receive this message. Yeah. Then didn't give her any information. No. Best of luck. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Oh, great to hear it. Bye. You don't want her cutting your grass as the lawn queen. You know what I mean? You're a lone wolf. You know, it's a secret family recipe. Yeah. You know, if I'm just giving out my lawnmower details, who knows?
Starting point is 00:34:16 Fuck. Anyone could turn up. I come into work tomorrow and Layla's sitting here. I've got something that's a bit sad, but then I've got another thing to bring it back. Okay. This is from Emily Gotts, who's a tarpa. Emily Gotts, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, she's Gotts to me because she started the podcast from the start. Oh, Emily, that's huge. Tony and Ryan, have you heard the news that the Kiwi Fish and Chips in East Melbourne has closed down? TARP historians will know that. The Kransky. Yeah. The deep fried Kransky.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Deep fried Kransky. You have previously spoken about this on the podcast, and I believe you actually stopped recording one day mid-episode to go to Kiwi Fish and Chips and get a cheese Kransky before returning. We actually did. And the video of Ryan eating it is on our Facebook page. You've got to scroll right down. And Pornhub.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Pornhub. It's all over the place. It's very suggestive. I'm just like, just took that Kransky down. But fuck, they were good. And shut down. Closed. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:27 This Tony Lodge effect effect i moved away i was keeping them in business and i moved away and so did you and now they've shut down i mean that doesn't sound like a coincidence well coincidence chats tomorrow we'll see if it makes an appearance that's the tony lodge effect i keep the kiwi fish and chips open that's actually that's a local sadness to hear that that has shut down because that was a great fucking fish and chip shop. Unrelated news, Preston fish and chips booming. Yeah. Yeah, they're doing awesome.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And they've got a lovely lawn as well. I got to love to see it from Holly Campbell. Hi, Holly. We travelled to Brisbane last weekend for Magic Round of the NRL. Oh. One of the hotel staff members asked my husband which team we went for and I said, oh, we go for the Dolphins. That's the sound of the elevator in the hotel.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That actually sounded just like a dolphin, don't you reckon? It's the lodge effect. That sounds just like a dolphin. That was pretty good. Are you sure that's not being stuck in the elevator at the hotel? I sometimes my talents really
Starting point is 00:36:39 take my breath away. I wish I would. Fucking savage bird. God bless. God bless. Heaven forbid. After we went out on Saturday, we came back to the hotel room and there was a handwritten note slid under the door. Dear Mr. Campbell, welcome to the Four Points by Sheraton.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Please enjoy your stay with us, have a great time, and I hope the Dolphins play well tomorrow. Oh, that's so nice. And my love to see it, as well as Holly's here, is just like a handwritten note. Doesn't that just really make a difference? And also remembering a little detail of being like, oh, I know that that's your team and you're here to watch them.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah, that cost that bloke 30 seconds, but what a difference. Just, yeah, like you said, remembering a little tidbit. Make you feel really special. Yeah, and I just saw that and I was like, next time they're in town, you know where they're going to stay. Yeah, and we're all talking about it. I mean, we're all talking about it. You know.
Starting point is 00:37:40 It's like the Barbra Streisand of Hotel. That's the Holly's husband of. Holly Campbell effect. Holly. That's Holly. Holly Campbell. All right. Tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:37:58 That's enough. I'm calling. Tomorrow on the show, coincidence chat makes a return. Please submit your shit coincidences. No good ones will be accepted. Yeah. And also there's a no H's S issue. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:12 We need a name for this place. Tarp Tower, we called it the other day. But I don't know if it's a tower enough. But I think that isn't that why it's funny that it's obviously not a tower? Yeah, but people don't know it's not a tower. You know what I mean? Yeah, I people don't know it's not a tower. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. For it to be ironic.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Okay, maybe we should put something maybe in Patreon and ask people to name our office. But anyway, there's no H&S issue at Tarp, not Tower. We'll get to that tomorrow. Have a good day. Love you, bye.

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