Toni and Ryan - Secret Money and Secret Honey

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

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Oh hello Anderson. Anderson. Hello. Oh my god it didn't even ring. Holy shit. That was very keen. Thank you very much. Oh unfortunately no one will be able to hear my old North Wales joke. Sorry about that. I've been sat by my phone for a while. Oh, okay. Well, thank you for your patience. Now, if you're a barista at Starbucks, if you could describe Tony in a Starbucks order, what would it be? Geez, that's a tough question with no notice.

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Okay. Coming up today and I'm not adding anyone because we're in a good mood today. Oh, no. I see when you started like, we are in a good mood. We are in a fantastic mood. Aren't we? Uh, coming up today, Tony goes, I've got something for the pod. And I go, what is it? She goes, I've got a maths problem.

So if today's your first Tony and Ryan episode, welcome to the comedy phenomenon that is Tony and Ryan. Do you know what might be a phenomenon? May get that word out. The fact that right now you have no drinks. That feels weird to me. No, I wouldn't. This coffee's been sitting out for a while.

That might not even be from today. It is today. It was the early one. You're zero parked right now. Oh no, I don't feel like me. It's strange. I've got a confession. These are top confessions. Please submit your confessions, tonyandryan.com.au.

They are anonymous. We can't even message you back with follow up questions because we literally, they are anonymous. And it's top confessions, Tony and Ryan podcast confessions. I won the national lottery and I haven't told anyone. Oh my God. 24 years old. How much do we know how much money it was?

What? Millions. Doesn't have to work again ever if they don't want to. Have they said the number? Oh, but we're okay. Sorry. But like proper first division, good one. Do you, like?

Fan besides about that every day, yes. Well, literally like if you see the thing pop up, you go, oh, and obviously I'd give some to blah. No, I'm not giving anything to anyone. Really? Yep, fuck no. Would you tell anyone? No, and let me read on because she's in the same position. Okay, sorry, sorry, I've just got so many questions.

No, no, no, no, no. I have the same questions here. It's crazy, yeah. I'm enjoying the year of winning on the podcast. So this year we want to have a thousand wins. If you want to tag Tony and I in something that, like an Instagram competition, doesn't matter how big or small,

a thousand wins this year between all of us. Yeah, and you get to upload a little photo of like you with your hamper you've won from the pub or whatever. Well, and this is where the tarpa is Natalie and Brulia Tom because she says, I want to remain anonymous, but I also want to contribute to the winning because I feel like this is a bloody good win. Just upload a picture of your fucking Lamborghini and we'll trust you. I don't want people treating me differently. And I know money changes people. Absolutely. You know, some fucking second cousins coming out of the woodwork who've got a great opportunity.

And, and she's like, no, I'm like, I'm not a big flashy. She's like the I'm so excited. The sort of freedom and independence that comes with it. But she's like, I don't want people turning up with their hand out. I just am all people treating me. Oh, easy for you to say you've got the fuck. You know, that kind of stuff. Yeah. So she goes, I just, and all people treating me, oh, easy for you to say, you've got the fuck, you know that kind of stuff.

So she goes, I just don't want to tell anyone. I'm 24 and I'm still working my shitty retail job because I haven't yet come up with a good enough excuse. To be able to be like, I just don't need to do this anymore. Yeah, oh, I'm going to quit, where are you going? Oh, I'm just not, are you going to change career? No, I'm just going to stop working. She hasn't said the amount, but she said,

I haven't found a good story to why I should quit my job and never work ever again, but I can. And so I think, especially at 24, you're catching up with your girlfriends. How's that career going? Oh, you got a job over there. Do you want to, oh, she wants to work in marketing. Oh, I'm in tech. What do you do? I just don't. Or at 24, you're also like, Oh, I'm still at uni cause I had a year off and you know, Oh, but it's so tough. Yeah.

How tough is it being a student? Cause you can't work as much, you know, like your friends are going through those kinds of. So she goes, I'm feeling like the pressure's off career wise, but she's like, I, I don't know how I can explain it and keep up that research. She's like, I've just, I've just kept going to work until I figure out what I'm going to do. Oh my, I can't even imagine what that is doing to your brain. But she goes, I feel like as soon as I tell someone, like the difference

between telling no one and telling one person is like, until they might mention, or they go, you have a hammer on this or a fucking black. And you just, she's like, I just, she's like, I don't know what to do. But the cash has hit the account. It's there. I never have to work again. I'm that's my anonymous secret. Oh my God.

I don't think same as to, I don't think I'd tell anyone because I just, the example I guess you can't be rich and fucking not have people peg you, peg, pull you down, peg you up. Take you down a peg is what you're talking about. Yeah. So I'm thinking of Peggy Sue, the Australian politician gone. Isn't Peggy Sue like a, no, I Google it. Okay.

No. Anyway, actually don't, no, shut up. Anyway, so I don't even know what you're talking about, but I had it anyway. So there is like, you're obviously under so much scrutiny. Yeah. And imagine telling all your girlfriends who are struggling and doing their first full-time jobs and whatever, and you go, God, that must be awful. And they're like, well, lucky you would know.

Yeah, you don't get that. I totally. Yeah. Um, so here is my question for us though. Okay. If she's not willing to put a name in a photo next to it, does it count in the year of winners or is it like, you know, there's Twitter profiles that like, has like the default blank.

Yeah. Or like when you're watching the news and they're like, it's the neighbor of someone who's like a gangland criminal or something and it's like Mr. X and they've got the like the voice decoder on and stuff. Yeah, are we willing to cop that? Do we trust that this is true? I do. I feel like if there was 400, like we get to the end of the year,

we've only got 600 wins and then suddenly, oh, 400 people have anonymously came in. One lot of, yeah, okay. But I feel like I trust this person. I think we accepted. I think that's fair. Okay. Good to know. Good to know. And congratulations.

Well done. Like I hope that you find a way to manage that. Yeah. And I hope you find a way to becoming a champion tarpar on our Patreon. Yeah, that's actually a really good point. Yeah. Not that I would tell you what to do with your money. Yeah. Not a financial advisor. You've retired from being a financial advisor. Yeah. Not that I'll tell you what to do with your money. Yeah. Not a financial advisor.

Not a financial advisor. You've retired from being a financial advisor. Yeah, I think you can just say that when you've never really done it. Yeah. I will. I know, this is a new confession. Different confession, new confession.

Is this the same confession? These are tough confessions. So is this the same one? It's different. About the lotto? No, but it's money related. We've got a money theme today. Oh.

I know way too much about a client's mistress. No, I'm out. One of my personal training clients told me about his mistress. And now I have to also keep the secret from his wife. No. This guy is so rich. He spent a hundred thousand dollars on a home gym

and he pays me a lot to come around three times a week and to train him. Great, okay. Over the years, as you would with a PT, you see him three times a week, allegedly, supposedly. I haven't even thought about it. Yeah, I've never heard that. You know, you become friends, you're, how's your family?

How you going? You just chatting and you're going, oh God, sorry, I can't do today. I'm a kid sick or, you know, all those things. We've formed a close relationship over the years. And he started telling me about this mistress that lives back in his hometown. When he goes away for work, he flies this girl in as well.

And they have their time when he's like out of town for work or whatever. He gave her a credit card with a $5,000 monthly limit that she can just use willy nilly and he spends heaps on these incredible gifts for her. And the holidays and stuff. Yeah. And so when we're like, you know, stretching whatever, she'd be like, Oh, check out this photo. Yeah, she just bought this thing and like, you know.

Um, are we for sure certain that this isn't an agreed arrangement between him and his wife? He, like the rich guy has said to the personal trainer. Don't say anything. Don't say anything they don't know. Okay, okay. So it's not, cause I was going to say, you know, sometimes like that can work for people, but.

Cause I train him at his house. I see his wife all the time and it's so uncomfortable, but he pays me so much cash. She's my highest paying client. I don't want to get at you, but she's like, so awkward. Not that anyone's asking for my advice. We are. Are you?

I don't know if my advice is that good. What I will say though is that I don't think it's your responsibility to get involved. I think if it's awkward and it goes against your morals, it's like, it's up to you whether you don't want to work there. But I also think you don't have to take that on. I have a different approach. Okay. Whatever he's paying you, ask for double. Oh, so you're saying extortion. I didn't say that. No, I'm saying keeping up with inflation. What are you going to

do? Fly me? Well, I'll tell you what. Yeah. Ryan, that's so gnarly. That wasn't what I thought of at all. Yeah. But let me read this final line from Anonymous. These are very juicy lines today. This last sentence changes. They don't say it specifically, but I think it changes everything and changes my mindset, which is maybe why I was in there. The PT is fucking the wife. No. That would be cool. That would be cool. Yeah. That would be like a movie that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt would have done together back in the day.

It would have been. Yeah. It would have been. I think why I said what I said is because I've read this last line and I think it changes things. Okay. I feel bad for the wife, but I'm so jealous of this chick with the sugar daddy. But I'm so jealous of this chick with the sugar daddy. And then you go, Oh, I mean, this guy's fit. He's been training three times a week.

Yeah. He's full of cash and the PT is going, fuck. She's got, can I get a piece of this? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's what he said to work every day, three times a week. She just walked up to the house and goes, fucking, can you still work out for 45 minutes?

And he goes, yeah. And she goes, okay. Yeah. I'm going to go finger your wife and, um, yeah. We got a bit off track. Yeah. I think so. I'm still a bit revved up. Yeah.

But does that last sentence change anything for you or just put something in a different line? I obviously doesn't hate him. No, no, they obviously get along well. So who's this girl getting flown around and five grand a month to spend on these kids? I think you probably would be a little bit jealous though, wouldn't you? Cause you go, God, what a like, what a fun existence that you're just. I'm here telling you to bench where I'd rather you just benched me like this other bitch. Yeah. And you go, I won't say anything if you don't mind.

I think that what you said, pay me double. I would never have the confidence or vibe to do that. I need I need I better just, you know. But I think it is the answer. Oh, OK. OK, right. Yeah. Hi, it's Anthony Cook from Cardiff and Wales,

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me trying to find a phone under a couch. And like- When you were trying to find the phone under the couch, you were wearing a short dress. Yeah, my whole bussy was out. Yeah, and Charles did a great job of blurring those bits. Well, maybe he didn't and maybe he'd like to check that out. But also just like, cause Charles did a great job of blurring those bits, but maybe he didn't. And maybe he'd like to check that out.

But also just like, cause Charles did the blurring, you know, that he saw what he had to blur, but Charles was also here live. Also, he'd already seen it. Charles, did you keep a version that isn't blurred? Yeah. So I actually really appreciate that. That's actually so sweet. Okay.

From the server. Yeah. Our public server. Fuck yeah. Tonyandryan.com.au slash good times. Slash old bullshit. Thank you to a few of our champion tabbers. Lauren McGraw. Good on your laws. Ooh ah, Lauren McGraw. Say ooh ah, Lauren McGraw. Lauren, is that your?

Nope. Different name. When you fingered that girl on a plane? I didn't do that, but that's also not her name. What do you mean? The last name, she's not a McGraw. Lauren though, first name that you fingered on a plane. Didn't met her on a plane. You fingered on a plane.

No, you did. Nope. Did you finger her on a plane? I am living my life to believe that you have. I know you have. You've been the last three years telling me what I did on a plane? I am living my life to believe that you have. I know you have. You've been telling me what I did on that plane. Because you told me what you did on the plane. No.

Yeah. I told you about that. I forgot her name and then I did that trick. With the passport. Hey, Charles, get this. I forgot her name and I said, oh, I'm so nervous about getting to Los Angeles because my passport photo is so ugly. And every girl in the world will go, that's nothing, mine's worse. And then she showed me and I was like, oh, it's not that bad Lauren. So it was Lauren and you did finger her.

I'm now scooped John. I didn't do that second part, but I did meet her on the plane. You fingered her on the plane. Nope. Too jolly. Good on you too jolly. Olivia Shaw, Emerson Graham, Graham, Graham, Alana Bowles, and Cassie Connealy. Thank you very much, Cassie. Love you very much.

Thanks for being part of it. Love to see it. Tony has a maths problem. So we've just- I've got too much money from the national lotto. No, I have something that has come up in my life and I spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to figure this out. And I just genuinely don't understand it.

And I am really hoping that you can explain this to me. And this isn't a matter of like weaponized incompetence. I genuinely am looking at these two things and I cannot understand it. Okay. I'm no, I have printed out two screenshots from a shopping app. Yep. And I have scribbled out the names of the products. So we're not going to dox anyone.

We're not doxing any brands, but it is toilet paper. And it's two different brands of toilet paper. Okay. Here are the two things. And I want you to have a look at the prices and what they offer. And don't say anything, but you just, you just have a look at those. So toilet paper number one is $13.50 for a 24 pack.

And it says there 31 cents per hundred sheets. Yep. Unit pricing always good to compare. So good to compare, right? Yep. Toilet paper number two is an eight pack for $10.50. Yep. And it's 36 cents per hundred sheets. Yep.

So what I don't really understand is that they're basically the same. So it's 31 cents per hundred sheets and 36 cents per hundred sheets. That's pretty much the same. Yep. How is a 24 pack $13.50? Yeah. And how is an 8 pack $10.50? Cause are you saying in theory an 8 pack should be a third of the price of a 24 pack

cause you're only getting a third of the rolls. Yes. Because also based on the fact that the cents per hundred sheets are fairly similar, you would think there would be a really large increase in cost then for the 24 pack. Cause there's three times as many rolls. Yes. So I have spent an inordinate and embarrassing amount of time on this problem in my own personal home and then thought I'll bring this to the people because I just don't understand it.

And I thought maybe you could help me. Okay. So we've got a 24 and we've got an eight pack. Are you also confused? I, there's some information missing. Okay. Well, I could get this up on the internet web. Thank God we can Google on Tuesday.

Yeah. Cause how? Yeah, we've already got the answer. You gave me it. It's on the piece of paper. What's the answer? Read the product of the eight pack. Double length toilet rolls.

Oh, that was my question. What are the first two words? Double length. But that's still only 16. Okay, but we're getting closer, right? That's a big factor. No, right. But the thing is, is that if the cents per hundred sheets are similar,

then shouldn't that mean that per roll or per, you know, if this is double, then we work in doubles instead of it only being eight, we act as that 16, whatever. However, next thing, different brands, different brands. So what the double is, is I guess, double of that brand's normal. So we don't know how the control and what's double. What's times two. Double what? Yeah. So maybe one brand's default is three and a half meters and the other one's default is four and a half meters.

Oh, she's folded in half. You know what I hate about movies that do with time travel? Set of three ply sheets. Three, 360 three ply sheets. Three, 360 three ply sheets. Or is it a ply issue? This is okay. Let me just zoom in. I'm just- When it says per sheets-

I'm hacking the planet, hang on. When it says per sheets, does that mean if it's three ply, it's triple the sheets? Three, like bing, bing, bing. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Number,ing, bing. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, number, toilet paper number two, the one with eight rolls in it,

is 360 sheets per roll. 360 sheets per roll, yep. The other one, I'm just seeing if I can get that information, 180 sheets per roll. So it is double. So it's double that, but still, doesn't that double still not make it up? But is one three ply and one two ply

and is that counted in the sheet count? Also saying sheet count sounds like you're calling someone a shit. Beat that. OK, this one is not three ply, but without doxing the business, it is that ripply one. Oh, okay. You know, also I just went on to said supermarket and the ripply one, it actually has like, if you scroll down, it tells you like how big the role is. Yeah.

10 by 10 or something. 10 by a hundred. No, I think you're like, you, you haven't missed a trick. Well, there's a bit, you know, so how can if eight is double length. So 16, I was actually in operations class last night and I'm. So it's 16 divided by. Divided by. Charles, what is this nice subtle way to remind Tony that we're currently on a

podcast. $10.50. Okay. Look at this. What do you reckon? 16 divided by $10.50. No, I actually can't cop that right now. That's a dollar 50. Tony is putting to Google 16 and the word divided by 10 dollars 50. Okay, no, I actually can't cop that right now. That's a dollar 50. Tony has put into Google 16 and the word divided by, like spelled out and that's,

that's thrown me. What do you mean? And it's like that day that you realized that backslash means divided and you only just learned that. Yeah. But just writing it out, it's correct. It's just, that's just right.

That's embarrassing. No, it's just rattled me a little bit. Okay. So 16, because it's the double rolls, divided by $10.50 is a $1.50 per roll. Yep. 24 divided by, what's the price on that one? $13.50. And this is not on special by the way, everyone,

just so you know, we're keeping it, keeping it obvious. That's $1.70 per roll. And they're pretty similar. So then how do you only, why then? That ends up being pretty similar. So then why, but this is only 16, but this is 24. Oh my God, I could have figured that out by what the sheets were.

Oh no, no, no, because it's not the same amount on both. So then my question is 24 take away 16. So they're actually, see, look that 24 take away 16, you get eight extra rolls for free. Yeah. Then I don't understand that. Like how the sheet prices. I don't, yeah.

How are they a similar price? Well maybe- Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, okay, I think maybe here, yeah, I do. Maybe- Why would anyone pick this? Strangely, we do here in the office. But you know what I ended up doing? What? I bought three boxes of that.

Cost me $30. Well, you could have got. One of those for $13. This is what I'm saying. Why would anyone do that? Why would anyone do what I did? Or the other thing, you could have just gone downstairs and taken a bunch from work.

Okay, I did think that actually. That's it. And I'm pretty sure it's a third option. See if that box is missing later, you guys, it's because I've taken it. Maybe with the per sheet pricing, it's only five cents different, but across a whole pack, that shit just adds up.

Literally. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I get you. I don't understand and I thought you would have the answer. Now I feel really unfulfilled. But do you feel also fulfilled that you earn a DC? Kind of. And I also feel proud of myself for doing all this number work.

That's very impressive. Yeah. So the double length rolls is 370 sheets. Yeah. 370 not 360. That's even more sheets. So it's even better deal. Holy shit. But then how does it work out that they're the same ish price, but it doesn't like how?

That's just the economy. It's the cost of, it's the cost of it's the cost of living. Yeah, OK. Inflation. Yeah. And brand like a loyalty, loyalty tax, loyalty tax. So maybe you're just so loyal to this one that you would get it and you're yep, you're getting done per sheet. Still not really good. You getting done per sheet? Still don't really get it. Well, when you're saying like why are they different? The answer is like, well, they are different. No, but they're too similar to be different.

Like the prices are too similar, but then they end up being completely different. Tony, I'm not being a dick, but I'm gonna ask a favor. Yeah. Am I being fucking stupid? Can you come to my managerial economics class and present the case? Yes. I would actually love to get some eyes on this. Because I think I would like to blow this case wide open because something's amiss. And I think that we need to figure out and get to the bottom of this.

Are Hamish and Andy still taking on cases? Don't know. I might ask. I might do some digging. Should we go to your house, get both rolls and then you just roll out and you count. Then we line them up down the street. But we don't need to count them. We have that data.

But I want to see. See, Like roll them out at the same time. Yeah. I want to see how much paper I'm getting from a cash. So stress test both of these options. Yeah. I don't hate that because I like a hands-on experiment. Oh, don't we know? I just, it's really tickling me and I don't really get it. We can upload these obviously with the privacy. No, if I can make figure it out. There's real you haven't doxed like that is what it is. And there is privacy because obviously I put a big X through this. Charles, did you see my privacy screen?

Yeah. Um, I just give some people some context. Imagine seeing a huge billboard with a Nike tick and then Tony just like crossed out a little bit. Oh, thank god. You'd be like thank god she was here. Um I do have a love to see it though to scratch our brains in a nice way. Yep. Um this is something I've never actually heard of and I think it's kind of cool but I also don't really get it. Um sorry. We'll just make sure tomorrow that I get what I'm saying. No no but just like it's a really clean, easy to listen to pod.

Easy to follow along. Just easy to follow along. This is fun. Now, I'm having a great time, but I just I just want it to be easy. OK, so the part that I don't understand is that Catherine has sent me through and mentioned Facebook dating. Oh, I didn't know that was a thing either. What's that? I didn't know that was Facebook dating? Oh, I didn't know that was a thing either. What's that? I didn't know that was Facebook dating.

Or is that just like a term you use when you find someone on Facebook? I feel like it's a term of like your stalking, like Instagram dating, same type of thing. Okay, so it's not the dating tab on Facebook kind of thing. But that's what it makes it seem like because Katherine said, I've met my first Harper in the wild. No, Facebook dating. I've met my first Harper in the wild. No, Facebook dating. I've met my first Harper in the wild.

We matched on Facebook dating and have been talking on and off. Facebook.com slash dating, find love through what you like, create your dating profile today. They're like trying to compete with Tinder and shit. But like, I'd never heard of that. So even when I read like, just signed up.

Charles is available. Sign me up. Any hot young women in your area, sign up for Charles. We matched on Facebook dating. So even when I read like just signed up Charles Young women in your area sign up for Charles we matched on Facebook dating We've been talking off and on did you hear the first part of that? Because this is the most exciting part they met top in the world a topper in the wild they matched on Facebook dating Yeah, there's a lot happening in this one story. Catherine said he's from the area I grew up in and we kind of like hit it off and had a lot in common. Fuck yeah. I was playing with accents today. I don't know if maybe that's something I like to do in the bedroom.

And he said, I sound like Tony. Uh, then sent me a reel and I screamed. So she was obviously like, g'day mate in her like Australian accent and was like, Oh my God, have you heard of this podcast? And she was like, yes. I'm nailing a tarpa. Yes. Isn't that so exciting?

You love to see it. I think that's really sweet. Isn't that so exciting? You love to see it. I think that's really sweet. This is a double barrel. You love to see it. Remember in the office last week, Charles brought those grapes in and they were fucking awesome. My God, they were enormous and so crunchy.

So big and juicy and crunchy. I posted one on my Instagram story being like, look at this enormous grape. And I just got replies from people being like, I don't like grapes. Fuck off. Well, someone who didn't reply that was Kit Lace, who has taken your passion for a big, thick grape.

Thanks Kit. Click on the link I've just sent you and you'll see a video that Kit has sent through to the Tony and Ryan Facebook group. It just takes me to the thing and I can't log in. Well then let me show you. It just takes me to the thing and I can't log in. Well, then let me show you. It just takes me to the group. This is Kit. Hi Kit.

That's an enormous grape. And we got to hear the crunch. We got to hear the crunch. ASMR. And she's like, oh, she just on the love to see it. Fred was like, how good is the sound of this grape? And also when you know you've got a good one so confidently that you start filming before you take a bite. She knows what she's doing.

You know what you're doing. Thank you for sharing that kit. I absolutely love that. Now tomorrow on the show. Simple only. What are we doing tomorrow? Oh no, we've got Scoop Jon. Oh, fuck. Love that. Now tomorrow on the show. Simple only. What are we doing tomorrow? Oh no, we've got Scoop John. Oh fuck, that's pretty complicated actually.

And who not to hire? That's pretty simple. What about me? Nah, don't hire anyone named Ash. I'll explain that. Can I hire Ash from Perth? Yeah, you won't be hiring her. And I'll tell you why tomorrow.

But we might need to change the Scoop John because it's a very complex case. And I don't think, I don't think this week is the week for it. It's not the time. Okay. All right. We'll do some re-wrapping. See you later. Love you. Bye.

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