Toni and Ryan - Spying On Your Friends With A Burner Account

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

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Scoop John is an exclusive. Hi, Scoop John. The Epworth Private Hospital in Richmond. Yeah. Is the only hospital in the state of Victoria that... Yeah. Now, we have a source on the inside. Tapa Cassandra Kate.

She ticked the box for... Bragworthy. Bragworthy, 1,000%. Cassandra was like, I thought of you guys straight away. Hi, I'm Jay from Sydney, Australia. I'm Martina from Austria. Hi, this is Stephanie from Sri Lanka and I grew this podcast.

Welcome to the Tony and Ryan podcast. This is Dr. Author bestselling Dr. Author Tony Lodge. Thank you. And coming up today, Tony, Scoop John has an exclusive. Wow. And anyone else that wants to know about the underbellies of a hospital and what it's got to do with Tony Lodge. Okay.

We've got someone on the inside. I did have to reveal my underbelly to the hospital the other day, so I don't know. But today we're learning about burner accounts. Oh. Because people, lots of people, it seems, including people who work for this podcast. People who we thought we could trust. And other tapas, a lot of people have burner accounts for a lot of different reasons. Now, I will say, though, of the top, the thing that skeaves me out is that the second

you hear burner account, I think you assume it's for like nefarious purposes. What's nefarious? Like bad reasons, like that you're like using that to like bully people like on a faceless account or something. Gotcha. But I have since. There's a bit of that here. Oh, okay.

And we can get to that. All right. Would you like to start with the tarpers, Tony? Would you like to start with me or would you like to start with Chi Chi who works for us? well I want to start with you so well you know this so I was thinking of starting a burner account on TikTok prior to being told I should start my own from zero yeah uh which is held the pressing which would be the same anyway yeah no but one the other wouldn't have my name though oh I see yeah because it would be a burner uh because that's what you would think well that's what

you would think so my TikTok that I would use to just scroll and stuff yeah was at Tony and Ryan podcast but here's the thing when i'm scrolling late at night i love watching videos about massages and naked ladies dancing i don't think you get that on sick talk oh my your algorithm's fucked uh i love seeing pimples being popped i love seeing barbers beat the shit out of people getting a hair cut yeah um i get down and like that is like a slippery slope and then other people would log in to upload a video and they don't need that. But also you would like stuff.

Yeah, love it. And so, no, no, no, like physically like stuff. And because we're like a verified account, it comes up. Like, if you follow, say you follow Tony and Ryan podcast. Say you follow sneaky, sexy masseuse. How about we go with what I was saying? If you follow Tony and Ryan podcast and then you see a random video that they liked it says like Tony Ryan have liked this video didn't realize you were so into

massages Tony well no but when I get that stuff and then it's like oh we've like and I was like what you did on YouTube as well a lot oh yeah so YouTube's fucked because I would subscribe to stuff that I liked and then it would be like maybe not representative of the two of us no but it would just be random like oh I don't even know an example because yeah it's a weird wormhole that you down yeah so I think I'm going to have to starts and burner account so I can watch my weird shit and not have a burner account on youtube do you I do actually yeah what kind of stuff you know oh no no like it's just like it's called fucking like saggy girl or something and it's just so that I can like like like and

follow shit like um especially actually I'm talking about the physio on a second but like some random exercises for my foot and whatever and the only login I had was the Tony and Ryan one and I was like well like I don't need I don't need to be doing that so I started this like Like, yeah, random burner account so that I could, like, follow Diary of a CEO and shit. That's how they get all those subscriptions. Yeah, because we're all subscribing three times. And then we've all done it. Yeah.

Billy, who's a Tapper. Not the, you're mate. No, not my. This isn't the one that burns, I mean, makes cars disappear. He said, I have a burner Instagram account so I can talk shit about other AFL teams and not have opposition fans hunt me down. Is that just like? trolly behavior though we like allowing that oh he's just passionate about football yeah well some yeah i don't love that okay now Kristen or kirsten one of those who's to say

christie she's got two separate accounts yeah she said sometimes i just need a break from seeing all my friends so i have one account where i follow all my friends and another account where i just follow funny meme accounts and stuff so i can choose i love that it's like oh i just want to see funny stuff so I open that account. I think that's a really good idea. It's my little brain break for when I'm feeling down. And if I want to see what my friends are up to, then I'll just like...

Toggle to the other one. That's how I feel about Instagram and Pinterest. Like if I scroll on Pinterest, I'm like, I'm only going to see craft stuff and like food or whatever. I don't have to deal with like... Bullshit. Well, the people that I follow on Instagram, like from school or whatever, you know? Al Gray said,

I want to check out certain groups like... this TARP Facebook group, but I don't want to deal with the stress of my rogue racist auntie wanting to interact with me. Yep. Because, you know, then she comments on stuff and the auntie goes, oh, what's he's all about? Yeah. And then Becky McAndrew said, I have a separate account for my pole dancing.

Oh. Because some routines are too spicy for my aunt to see. I have, um, I was talking to a tap on Patreon the other day. And they said, oh, one of my life goals is to run. marathon and they were like so I want to start an Instagram to kind of like keep me accountable and I can post on there she was like but I don't want all my friends and family to necessarily follow it straight away and so we um brainstormed a name strategized oh what'd you come up with well I'm not gonna because they were like we don't want to well she said like I don't want

people to follow it so I'm not going to then share it on the podcast I'll beep it out I just want I'm more interested in that your creativity of the name oh well we worked we kind of said a few back and forth and my suggestion was because that's the vibe that she she was like I'm a mid-sized girl I'm not like a skinty fit fluencer yeah I'm also not she's like I'm not trying to lose weight I'm just doing this my fitness and for my enjoyment and stuff so we came up with that I like that's fun um but and I was like that does what it says on the tin if you came across that account you'd be like I know what this is about yeah yep that makes sense I like that yeah you should start charging for these services I think I might but I was in Patreon so

So you are. So, yeah, actually, that is fair. That's fair. Now, let's get to Chi-Chi over here because how many burner accounts do you have at the moment? I've got at least one on every platform. So... That is crazy.

What for? What's yours for bullying? Yeah, so I control you in the comments. No, so Facebook, I've had the longest, I would say. And the reason I've got Facebook is because back in the day when you sold stuff on marketplace, there was no hide from friends option. And I was selling heaps of stuff. I didn't want, like, everyone to, like, troll in the comments.

That's really funny because you guys all trolled Torbs when we were trying to sell our fridge. And Torbs and I, about three years ago, trolled Ryan because he was selling an outdoor umbrella. So why is it okay for you to troll me, but not okay for us to troll you? No, I'm saying it, you know, it happened. But you were selling that outdoor umbrella for a while. How'd you go with that in the end? I think I still got it. Yeah, nice.

Yeah. No, it's at Linda and David's farm. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Instagram is I would say my favorite burner account because I bought followers for the accounts that it looks real. I know.

That's creepy, Charles. No, that's commitment. So then like, you go to the account. But what do you do in the account? Yeah, see, this is like, this is what I don't like. What are you doing that can't have your face associated? Oh, it's just like I can, like, stalk people. And I don't want my name associated with that.

But I don't know. But why do you need followers for that? Because then if you click on the account, it's got zero followers, you're like, oh, it's like a burner. account. But what are you commenting on if it's just to store people? I'm not really, I'm not commenting that much, but like, you know, the accidental likes that happen. Or you like viewing their story. The stories, yes, definitely. Yeah. You both seem pretty across it. I'm very across it. I'm so across it. Couldn't be more across it. So, but I believe Charles, you were saying that your burner account needs a burner account the other day. So then I had, well, because I've got multiple like Instagram

accounts, but I wouldn't say they're like burner accounts because the other ones like have my name associated with them. Yeah, so that's where I was like, I don't think you know what a burner account is because it's like Charles 2. Yeah. So then what's the point in having well, Chi Chi 2 and then we go

well, we know who that is. Yeah. And so then I had to make a fake TikTok one the other day because I wanted to watch a live stream but of like someone who I knew but I didn't want them to know. I was like watching.

Charles, why don't you want them to know? Like they don't deserve your view. Was it, um, yeah. Was it someone that I've met? I don't think so. Okay. I thought I might know whose live stream it was.

And then I was like, did I just meet them last week? My mom's. No. You can beat this out. Oh, no, no, no. And I was like, oh, maybe you don't want them to know that you're watching your last stream. If we're being honest, I think I get the concept of like, you don't get my view. You guys.

I don't know that we can say that while asking people. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, okay. I just think like... So you're not against her, you're just against admitting it. No, no, no. Well, I don't have a burner account on... That's what someone with a burn account would say.

I don't have it. I can't barely manage my own Instagram account. Fair. No, no. I only... The only one that I have is on YouTube. And it was more because I was like, oh, if I'm liking a workout video or whatever, it was more just that because you can't hide your, like, likes and saves.

And I was like, oh, I didn't want to add that to our thing. or then be like Tony Lodge on YouTube because I'm not posting anything. But what if I can't? I couldn't figure that out. What if I want to know what the good workout video is and your gatekeeping? Well, I would send it to you.

But because I actually thought it was more because if someone did search for me on YouTube, I'm not posting anything. So I was like, oh, because you can't just make your channel private. Otherwise I would. Yeah, right. Otherwise I would be called Tony Lodge. But I was like, because I'm not posting it feels like,

fuck oh who's this bitch with zero subscribed no no no no more like oh that if someone searched for tony and ryan but tony lodge came up they'd be like where's all their videos yeah very true so that's why i was like oh it's just easier because why can't you just make your thing private on youtube i don't get why you need to have a channel to watch stuff that's what i yeah yeah like you can't just watch as an account you have to like be an uploader so and that was more the thing yeah okay and it's all just mattie matheson videos alison roman videos AD videos, workout videos, and I love like those videos that are like, here are 10 ways to make yourself better.

Like I've watched 3,000 of those. And let me tell you the 3 million reasons I've not added up to anything. Was that the right, maths? Yep. Was it? 10 reasons times 3,000? No, that'd be 30,000. And I watched his great maths one.

Hi, I'm Jay from Sydney, Australia I'm Martina from Austria Hi, this is Stephanie from Slangor Malaysia And you're listening to Tony and Moran I'm asking to Tony and Ryan I'm asking I'm a massive shout out to A few of our champion tapas over at our Patreon

On the second day of Christmas My true love said to me Shy and be Lindsay Patey Shantel Stap is my Verona be Luke Blenard, Rin, Borton, James, A.E.W. Fan, Jared, Glitchie, Dutt,

Morgan, Stephen Desert, Harley Coveevich, Jay, Jedstits, two turtle duffs and a partridge in a Tony. That's good stuff. That's beautiful. Can you remind me, Charles, that tomorrow. I'm on day three, the third day of Christmas.

So I did mention before about the year. YouTube video workouts, but I've been going to the physio because in case you knew here, in case you missed it, I broke my foot this year and I had- Someone fell down the stairs in an accommodation. In Los Angeles, the city of angels. Wasn't for me, actually. No. City of Devils because I broke my fucking foot.

But then I had surgery and so I've been doing, like, I thought that having the surgery would be like, cool, you've got the moon boot on and now. is it fine? And that's like really not what it is. No. I didn't really know what to expect because I've never broken a bone before. Anyway,

but so I've been doing physio like once a week for the past over a month, I guess. And they give you all the exercises and then you do them. You go away and you do them and then you come back. Anyway, I get there the other day for my appointment. And it's like 9 a.m. They're not open yet. Right.

So I park around the call. I walk up there and the door is locked. And I'm like, cool, I'll just wait here. Another guy rocks up for his appointment and he is on crutches. And I'm like, oh, you poor bitch, I've been on crutches this year. Fuck, that sucks. We kind of say hi to each other. He goes, oh, I don't open yet.

I go, nah, doors locked. And he goes, okay. So like just a chill interaction. Probably five minutes, 10 minutes passes. And the physio comes out. And he says hey to the other guy. and then he goes oh Tony I didn't know what time's your appointment I didn't know you're in today and I go oh my appointment's at nine and then he looks at this other guy and he goes oh what time's your appointment he goes nine and we both go and you can't immediately you're like all right and he goes let me have a look in the system because this has actually happened before where we've double booked people so I'm so sorry I think there's been like a glitch yeah anyway he goes come on in come on in we'll figure it out so we get in there and immediately i say hey i actually live

really close yeah i'm happy for you to take the appointment and i'll figure something and i'll just come back like i live really close it's really it's not out of my way like it's so fine like i wasn't that's nice of you thank you so much but i was just like look you're on crutches that's hard enough i would have seen this guy on crutches and gone you need this more than me no my are they just deploy to get the appointment oh like do you know he needed crutches a prank i see but he was just playing the part he goes oh he's watched catch me if you can he he had didn't have an appointment at all no and he just goes oh just hobble up there and see if they let me in the old sympathy crutches yeah sympathy crutches well i got to because i had to buy my crutches in the u.s so i've still

got mine so maybe i should roll out the sympathy crutches from time to time i can pay d u.s dollars for i might as well fuck get you yeah yeah yeah i've had to remortgage my house Anyway, and so I go, hey, I'm actually, like, it's so chill. And the guy goes, oh, you don't have to do that. But I go tell it. He was like, thank fucking girl. Anyway, and the physio goes, oh, Tony, it says here that you, like, did you confirm your appointment? Like, did you get a text?

And I was like, oh, I normally do. And he goes, oh, it says here that you cancel the appointment. It's why it opened up. And I was like, oh, fuck. Well, then definitely, obviously you have it and I'll, like, come back. And I was like, oh my God, that's so weird. Like you've got this text. You've said, no, the system's going to open up.

Is there a crutch guy? Yeah. He goes, cool. Does someone else need it? And I was like, that's weird. Yeah, I normally get a text. So like, they've come through before. And then he goes, and I was like, fuck, have I put my number in wrong or something?

Because, like, you know, when you're typing it in, I'm like, oh, if your phone number ends in an eight, have I put a seven? And it's just gone to someone else. And I'm like, and I go, oh, I'm really sorry. That's actually fully on me then. You guys go through and I'll just book a, I'll just rebook online. And he, and the physio, he goes, I'll actually see you during my lunch. He goes, can you come back at 1.30? And I was like, you don't have to do it.

He goes, no, no, no, no. It'll be another fucking three weeks, mate. Yeah. And he, and he, and which is so lovely. And I go, I'm actually really sorry. It's obviously my fault. Like I've obviously put the number in wrong somewhere. And he goes, oh, let me.

just check what number's in here. And he goes, 0-4-1-8? And I go, no. No. I'm actually not an inferior human. And not only that, but I now know that was not my fucking fault. Because of all the parts of my phone number, that is not the part I would ever put in wrong.

And don't we know it? Ever, on my life. But do you put your phone number in fresh each time? well so this is the thing because I go well I've gotten texts before and I just reply yep like all good and then have you messaged your phone neighbor my phone neighbor so it's your number that instead of 0408 it's 04 1a oh and be like did you get the message about the physio and why didn't you also we're number one number off each other oh should we hang out or something have you ever done that yeah I've copped one of those I got a phone call because you know when we were teenagers it

It was like free calls after 8 o'clock or whatever. And so someone calls and they go, I mean, Dave, are away. And I go, hello. And these two, these girl goes, oh, hey, like, I've got the number next to you and we're just calling people because it's free calls after 8 o'clock. That could have been your future wife. That feels like a real, like. Well, there was two of them and it was me and Dave. And we became mates.

We're hanging out. Oh, you met them? On the phone. FaceTimed. Yeah. Yeah. No, but they called back the next night. They go, oh, because they were like just fishing for a friend.

And they caught one. that's like who were well i wonder if they're listening monday they were i think they were from south australia got annoying after a while oh they kept ringing every night after eight o'clock hey guys how you guys gone yeah good oh well took us a while to figure out what was going on oh i bet yeah because you get this random fucking phone and then i said to them you don't have a physio appointment's right have you gotten a text about a physio appointment could you just reply yes for me yeah so what i'm getting at is you should text that person and go hey dog If it comes to you again

Just fucking say yes Just give me a freebie So I was like Well I've gotten the text before And I was actually so happy to cop it And just be like Oh it's obviously my bad It's really not a big deal

I'll just come back later Maybe your number neighbour was the guy in the crutches It would actually be crazy If you lived near your number neighbour That would be crazy Like what are the actual odds of that Of all the phone numbers and the people in Australia, like, that's wild.

But it was just very interesting to me that I go, you don't know who you're fucking dealing with. Don't fucking 04-18 shame me, dog. Well, because I just went, if he had have said any other number was wrong, I'd go, I've obviously done that. They could have, if you had got your birthday wrong, you'd have been like, it happens.

Totally, you got my birthday wrong on all those flights, remember? I... Remember that? One of us remembers very strongly. Can I just give some advice for people traveling? Yeah. It turns out when you like feel out of form on a visa or like... It really sticks around.

An important travel document that the birthday that you put on those documents needs to be not just close to the birthday. Yeah, there's actually zero room there. The exact same day as what it says on your passport. Now, some people have used the defense of... Yeah, but it's similar to my wife's birthday, so I just kind of like split the difference. No. Pretty close to being accurate.

One's born on the 28th and one's born on the 21st. Split the difference, niente. So Ryan goes, yeah, Bridget's birthday is on the 21st, so I knew that yours was the 21st of November. And I went, nah. That's not how birthday works. Everyone's is different. But you want to know what's funnier about that is that my birthday is the 28th.

Yeah. What date is your birthday? Don't have to give the month all the year or anything like that for privacy reasons if you don't want to. But what date? For privacy reasons? What day of the month? It's the 28th. Oh, interesting.

That sounds like the same number as mine. How would you not then make the connection? You're assuming I get my birthday right all the time. But I just was like, you know what? I would have cop that if it was any other number wrong in my phone number. But I was like, well, no, that wasn't me. because I would never subject myself to someone thinking I was an 0418. We have thanks to Charles Burner account Patterson over here.

Chee-T too, prove. On the Thursday episode, genuinely, some innovative technological genius. Something really wonderful has happened and you're going to like it. What I am going to say to you and no one else is going to understand this yet, but it'll make sense on Thursday. we're going to find out just how passionate about how passionate about the 0408 that you are no one knows what that means

except the three of us but that's very good stuff and I'm looking forward to it hey I've got to you love to see it I've got you love to see it let me just pick up my bloody iPad what you said what do you love to see what did you say

I said I've got to you love to see it oh you said what do you love to see it here and you go no I've got my I'll grab mine. Sorry about that, mate. No, mate. Hey, I don't have an 0408, please.

What is yours? An investigation into private hospitals in Melbourne. Oh, what's your fucking suffix of your number, dickhead? 049. No, it's not. 0423. Is it really? 0427.

It's not 0427, is it? I'd never be friends with an 0427. You wouldn't be friends with what I've got. Oh, it actually is 049-9-9 That's a shock and phone number, mate You're about to just show the camera But when you put all the numbers together

It's a great number No, it's not I don't like the triple And I don't like the last three numbers And then your wife, 0498 If you read out of... She moved to your late She's she moved from NZ

I had an 0408 And then I moved overseas And gave it to Marcus That's a really good friend Yeah Yeah Oh, to take my good number. No, that you would give it.

Yeah. Oh, so I was actually saying you're the good friend. Say thank you. Thank you, Tony. Happy birthday for the other week. Thanks for the 21st of November. Scoop John is an exclusive. Hi, Scoop John.

It's also we love to see it. And we know this place because we used to work around the corner. The Epworth Private Hospital in Richmond. Yeah. is the only hospital in the state of Victoria that serves Diet Coke instead of Coke Zero So you know how you tick the little like box Like oh we'll bring you a sandwich and do you want an orange juice or a drink

The Epworth Private Hospital in Richmond Because I've got a Which is just around the corner Shout out Bizzle B. Yeah The only hospital in the state of Victoria that does Diet Coke Oh I knew they were a good hospital Yeah have you done some time there

No, Torbs has when it He had his wisdom teeth out there. Remember when he burned his finger making that schnitzel? Yeah. And we were in and out of the hospital for fucking three weeks, wondering if he had after surgery and stuff. Yeah, that was, yeah, that was Epworth. Now, we have a sauce on the inside.

Sorry, I heard S-A-U-C-E and I was like, what sauce do you need? From the snitzel? Tomato. Tapa Cassandra Kate. Hi, Cassandra Kate. Cassandra, I hardly know her. She ticked the box for Diet Coke. assuming that would just roll out of cold zero.

They're just going to bring out a diet Coke zero, yep. And then they bring out a crisp diet Coke in a can. And she went to the nurse, I assumed it would just have been a Coke zero. And the lady goes, we're the only. The nurse brags and says, we're the only hospital in Victoria.

Braggworthy. Bragworthy, 1,000%. Oh, I should have gone there when I was shitting blood out of my asshole. That's the first thing I thought. And then Cassandra, I was like, and I thought of you guys straight away. Is Cassandra all good? She's fine. Her son, eight-year-old son, pretty traumatic surgery.

Oh, shit. But she said pros and cons, how good's the diet coat? Well, I mean, every traumatic surgery has a silver lining. They've always said that. Hey, you might know this as an audio person. He had to get his, like, adenoids removed. You know that little thing in the back of your? Oh, no, I don't actually.

Yeah, so he was sort of going through it and she was going, what a great day. And she's going, she's literally taking selfies with a Diet Coke going, oh, message Tony and Ryan, you're right? And he goes, ah, and he goes, yeah, cool, mate. Crack open a fridge cigarette on a tough day, don't you? Yeah. Jeez. To be honest, she seemed a lot more excited for the Diet Coke than she was concerned for the child. We don't know that.

We can only base that on what we can see. I'm basing that on what has been sent through a scoop, John. Yeah. Not on reality, just on what's been. sent through. Okay. On your burner account. Yeah.

Maybe that's what I should call my new TikTok account. Scoop John. Yeah. Chelsea, can you see if Scoop John's available? Spelled the incorrect way like my birth mother gave me? J-O-N. Hmm.

Okay. Well, Charles, fuck it. It's taken. No, he said one sec. He's watching a live stream on a burner account over there. He's busy. Hey. Hey.

Charles actually explained in. the in the in the it's available it's available yeah not anymore Tony what do you love to say what were you about to say just said in the break well Charles explained why he had a specific burner account during the break and we all went oh that is fair yeah it was it's the anonymity we all crave yeah um I've got you love to see here from Charlie smith also TikTok related so a bit like scoop John hello new new TikTok account um Charlie says my eight year old daughter Eliza Joe loves watching you with me and my fiancee and she saw you kind of talk about, like, starting the fucking blog.

Yeah. Maybe not really the appropriate language for our beautiful little E.J. But that's okay. AJ needs to learn. So they were like, oh, she loves writing, like, loves writing little stories and reading them and stuff. So she goes, oh, I'd really like to start sharing my writing with the internet. I love that. So she started posting, like, videos on TikTok of her writing little stories and reading them out.

It's so beautiful. That's a mate. That's so nice. It's really wholesome, eh? And kids are out there playing video games. I should be doing beautiful stuff like that. Isn't it so sweet? So Charlie said I'm so proud of her.

She gets so excited with every view. And one of the videos has like over a thousand views and she's just like loving doing it. We will put the link in the show notes or the Facebook thread and the YouTube, whatever. But it's read with little.e1. And no one will remember that. So we'll put the link up, but very cute. Is it definitely not EJ? Well, no, it's E1.

Okay. Is that her burner account? Readwithlittle.e1. Okay. Why would you question me in my burner account? I was more questioning her name. Yeah. Like I gave my mate some feedback in the Patreon,

maybe we'd give them some feedback on their account name. Whether they like it or not. Yeah, advice is free. Take it or leave it. But I just thought that was so sweet. Is she, though, going to get kicked off TikTok tomorrow? Follow now, because it might not be heard tomorrow. Enjoy it today.

Enjoy it today. I've been thinking about the ban in Australia a lot. Yeah, please. So for anybody that doesn't know on December 10th, they're under 16. All social media for under 16. See you. I think it's like probably a net. positive as in like pros and cons it's probably a good thing but the cons man they're so

significant i agree like that you just go oh i think there all those opportunities for different kinds of creativity you know that saying that's like don't judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree yeah i felt at school a lot like a fish that couldn't climb a tree because i think there's a lot of like importance placed on sport or maths or whatever and I just wasn't that good at those things but you know what I was interesting that you became a data girl later in life yeah well I mean sometimes we change yeah but like I was really good at English and music and dancing and like but oh because you can't play soccer or you can't run very far then oh well so you're not sporty I'm like but I'm sporty and different like I love swimming and dancing and whatever

So I think that the thing for me about removing kids off Instagram and stuff is that I think it removes the ability to see that kids that aren't good at maybe mainstream subjects, that there is a life for you. Yeah. Because I never felt like there was for me. I was like, oh, so because I can't run and remember my times table is like, what does that mean for me? Yeah. Well, I guess similar. I couldn't watch volleyball on TV because it's not a big sport in Australia. Totally.

But it's massive overseas and I can watch it on YouTube and stuff. and then I think when you see someone like this you go maybe she writes stuff and other young writers comment and they become you know and they encourage each other totally and they find their people who like doing similar stuff and in eight years they write a fucking novel and this is their life's passion and and is that opportunity kind of gone like you stoke the flames of that early oh I'm getting these views I'm going to keep going yeah instead of just writing on a piece of paper and throwing it out the window yeah yeah I also wonder if like...

You probably wouldn't do that. Well, no. Yeah. But like, I wonder though the impact on like kids when they hit 16 in the future and all of a sudden have access to this world that they haven't been able to kind of foray into it all. Like with control. It's like, it's like binge drinking. When you turn 18, you're like, I can finally drink alcohol. So I'm going to do it until I fucking pass out.

So I spoke to at South by Southwest, the head of product of you. YouTube. Sorry, this isn't very brain break of us, but... The head of YouTube. And I was like, what's YouTube think about this? Yeah. And literally, he couldn't have, like, he just goes, kids will find a way. Well, he was so like, oh, they'll put it in a different birthday.

They'll go around. They'll watch their brothers. He was just so, like, kids are way smarter than us. Absolutely. Imagine if he told Charles, he couldn't do something on a computer. He would just go, okay, and then do whatever the fuck you. But as a kid, like, I, like my parents said you can't go, like I did a little D and they said, you can't go on the internet.

I found a way. That's what I mean. Yeah. So he was just like, Ben, like. Yeah. But the thing that makes it difficult is that all of the parental controls that are in place for younger people with an account, all of a sudden, all of that security is removed. Because they've said they're 21.

So you're actually making it easier for them to see inappropriate or violent or like gratuitous content. Like, you're actually making it easier for people to find it. because they don't have an age-appropriate. Charles, can you get Tony's hot take attire? Because I've been scorched. Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, I sound pretty educated on this topic. For a daughter girl.

For a daughter girl, you know. But I just think that as like a chubby little kid that didn't do that well in school, I would have loved this shit. And I just feel really sad for the little Tonys now that don't feel like they will get that external encouragement or that opportunity to like see outside what they can see in their homes. And imagine, I know you're older than that, but imagine we lived in a world where we couldn't find videos of Tony singing about rotisserie chickens at the Coles Dalley in Mannington. That is not a world I want to live in.

No, thank you. Yeah, and tomorrow, it's the world we're all living in. Leave that with you. Would you like an update, though? Oh, yeah. I've got Scoop John on TikTok for you. Love it. Have a great day.

Love you so much. See ya. Love you. Bye. See you tomorrow. Thank you.