Tony Mantor's : Almost Live..... Nashville - Barry Mazor: Blood Harmony: The Everly Brothers Legacy
Episode Date: August 20, 2025Barry Mazor unveils the untold story behind his comprehensive biography "Blood Harmony: The Everly Brothers Story," offering unprecedented insights into the lives and legacy of rock and roll... pioneers Don and Phil Everly. This meticulously researched 400-page book represents the first serious, depth-sourced biography of the iconic duo whose harmonies and groundbreaking fusion of country and rock shaped generations of music. • Writing process took three and a half years of deep research and document analysis • Many key figures from the Everlys' early career have passed away, requiring extensive archival research • International fan club provided rare newspaper clippings and materials from around the world • Interviewed previously unheard voices including producers, road managers, wives and girlfriends • Explores the complex relationship between two brothers "practically stapled together for 60 years" • Reveals personal struggles including Don Everly's two suicide attempts • Examines their musical innovation combining sweet country harmonies with R&B rhythms • Highlights their massive influence on The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Beach Boys and countless others • First sentence of book: "The difference between the famed and the rest of us is that so many people think they know them" Blood Harmony: The Everly Brothers Story is available now wherever books are sold. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hi, I'm Tony Mantor. Welcome to Almost Live Nashville.
Joining us today as acclaimed music journalist and author Barry Mazur as he unveils Blood Harmony
the Everly Brothers' story,
the definitive biography of rock and roll pioneers,
Don and Phil Everley.
With his signature blend of meticulous research
and vivid storytelling,
he delves into the lives of the iconic duo
whose harmonies and groundbreaking fusion
of country and pop shape modern music.
Drawing on exclusive interviews
in rare archival material,
Blood Harmony offers a compelling portrait
of two brothers whose music continues
to resonate across generations.
It's a pleasure to have him here
to share the story behind writing
this remarkable book.
Thanks for coming on.
I appreciate you having me.
I don't think we met,
but now we have.
You're in Nashville, right?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, I'm in Nashville, too.
It's amazing our paths have not crossed.
Been here 32 years now.
Well, we've been here 22 years.
Of course, they still ask me
where I'm really from.
Yeah, I don't get that
as much as I used to now.
I worked at radio for a while.
Of course, I had to watch my speech,
so to not have any particular accent.
I don't worry about that now.
You get what you get.
Yeah, I've done radio too.
I had a streaming radio show here
for quite a while out of Acme Radio downtown,
like 190 episodes.
But they can't quite place mine
because we moved around a lot in Pennsylvania.
It's just sort of general northeast and Pennsylvania.
No spot in particular.
Well, it's always nice to go down memory lane, but we are here to talk about your book that you've written about the Everly Brothers.
So can you give us a little information on what led to that?
Well, I think, as you know, I've been writing about music as a journalist and also as an author for a long time, some 50 years at this point.
Like a lot of writers about music, I noticed something that simply wasn't a serious depth, sourced book about the lives and music of the Everly Brothers.
There were fan books, but if you look at the 10 original members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
all of them have multiple books like that by this point, but not these guys.
And I was having an online conversation with another music writer I know Elijah Wald,
who among other things, did the Dylan Goes Electric thing.
And he was asking that question, which keeps being asked, and I said, I don't know, we were
tossing it around.
It turned out my literary agent was picking up on this conversation, and he said,
Why don't you do it?
And I said, why don't I?
And that came pretty automatically because I've been listening to them since I was eight years old.
The alley with the transistor radio in Scranton, PA, and Bird Dog was on the radio.
And ever after, yeah.
I remember those days with the transistor radio.
When you started this, you had to get the backstory.
So how did you approach that in getting this started?
Well, I have a certain way I work always with this stuff.
Yeah, you start with the obvious.
I go to the most obvious available sources of,
work up a timeline. Once you do that from different sources, pretty early on, things start to
gel against each other. Oh, that happened the same time as that. Oh, they said that, but they were here.
You start to get questioned, and then you start to fill it in. I filled it in for three years.
And from there, eventually, if you're lucky, and I really felt that happened this time. Along the way,
I found out what this was really about, and you start to shape the story and the story art to work for the story you're telling.
If you work my way, you don't go in knowing exactly where that's going to take you.
You find it, which is what I did.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
I've heard from several of my writer friends that once they get going into a book, the characters kind of take over and they write down what's happening, but they're not really controlling it.
Did that kind of scenario happen to you at all during this writing process?
Is there any similarities there at all?
Well, it's usually fiction writers say that, and it's kind of spooky if you ask me.
These were real people with real lives.
They were facts of the matter that came up and behaviors that came.
And I had a pretty vast array of material to dig into to look at.
One of the things you're to understand is that it shocks people.
But the first time Don and Phil Everly walked into a recording studio here in Nashville is 70 years ago this year.
Wow, I didn't realize it was that long.
This is history.
Everybody who worked on their big hits for Cadence Records, the ones people know.
the best. The bye-bye, love, wake up little Susie, you know, all I have to do is a dream.
They're all gone. There's not a single person that were involved with those still alive.
So this was history. I'm asking if you interviewed Mr. Lincoln. So this is go to the documents.
And it was like that. And there's a lot of documents, most of them untouched, precisely because
there hadn't been a deep dive book like this.
With everyone associated with the first hits and not here now, what were some of the
challenges you hit trying to do this deep dive?
into the background of them.
Well, the challenge was to meet the goal, which
this is a biography, and you want them to be alive
and on the page, and you want to deliver,
what were they doing in that room?
What were they feeling?
What were they thinking?
So you particularly look for material like that when you find it.
I thought it was a screenwriting background,
which means you look for scenes that are really telling
about that show that stuff.
So as you moved on this and did the deeper dive,
and it was all coming
together? What surprised you? Because anytime you do something like this, there's always going to be
something that jumps out of left field and catches you off guard. You just didn't anticipate that,
and you're going to go, whoa, what just happened here? Well, I suspected that these were too
complex individuals. I'd actually met and interviewed Phil at one point, not done. But, you know,
you get an image of the Everly brothers, especially kind of stuck at the beginning with these sort of
rock gods with high pile ducktail haircuts and they're smiling and everyone's like, you know, aren't they
telegenic? But these were two intelligent, complex individuals. And there is no simple version of who they were.
There's no simple version of how they related to each other. Because there's this thing called the Everley brothers.
It's a business. It's a group. It's an act. And then there's this guy, Phil Everley and this guy Don Everley.
These brothers who had to live with this practically stapled to each other for 60 years. How do you do that? What's it like?
for them. So I think the degree to which their personal relations and temperaments aligned with the way
they related to that act over all that time, how they stuck with it and the troubles I had. People
often heard that they had clashes and differences in this kind of thing. But they were closely
aligned. So the book is about who these guys were in the music and who the act was. It had a beat.
And it very closely connected those two questions. Did you or what kind of reactions did you get
from people that either knew them or was associated with them,
from reading the book that they were maybe shocked.
Well, maybe not shocked, but surprised.
Well, yeah, as I said, there's some people that were not available to me
except in documents.
And by the way, even by documents, we have, you'll know him.
We have a well-known music journalist here in town
a friend of mine of Bob Orman, Robert T. Orman.
Yes, I'm very familiar with him.
He had written about the Everleys.
He was a great fan of those and written about them many times.
Well, when you write for a newspaper, he'd do an article, he'd do an interview with Don Everly in the 90s,
and they'd use two sentences from it in a newspaper story.
Well, he had all the rest of that material, which he made available to me.
There's an international fan club for the Everleys, which still has like 18,000 members,
and they have preserved clippings from all over the world,
from newspaper coverage in Appleton, Wisconsin, or in Brussels, or in the Philippines.
And they had the great collection, which they shared with me.
And you start to put these things together, there's a lot of Phil and Don in there.
I got to pick what made the book.
Yeah, that's so great.
So that leaves me to this.
You got to pick what you was going to put into the book.
That's the job.
Yeah, yeah.
How difficult was that?
You have all this information, and a lot of it was very vital to what they were.
Then you have to compile it all and put it all together in such a structure that tells the story the way that you wanted it.
Yeah, well, once I find the structure, you go with it and you shape it and you rewrite and you rewrite.
And as I said, I've been a journalist and an author and an editor for 50 years.
I've written hundreds of profiles for the Wall Street Journal for No Depression magazine.
The idea of how do you find the beginning, middle, and end of a thing is kind of pretty natural to me by this point.
Yes, it's a more complex thing with a book.
You start to find it.
You know, it was longer at one point and tightening it up.
And the very act of tightening it up gets you closer to, yeah, this is what it's about.
don't need that. This is the third. It's the worst. Yeah, absolutely. How long did it take you from start to
finish? Three and a half years. Three and a half years. So when you set back and it's all complete,
I know when I listen to something that I've produced, I'll always have that, oh, I should have done this,
I should have done that. It's all good, but you still find things that you could have done in your mind better.
Did you have any of those, oh, why didn't I do this moment? Well, I think they happened
earlier on so I was able to get out.
There gets some point, yeah, this is the other thing,
gets some experience, and you'll know it too.
That's all true, and I have, you know,
two previous books published out there,
and there's things I learned.
You know, as soon as the book comes out,
people call you with 14 pieces of information.
You never heard before.
The answer is eventually you get off the pot.
It's like, this is done now.
I like deadline work, you know.
I couldn't have asked for like, what are these 10-year biographies?
I'll talk to you someday, you know.
I agreed to three years.
years, so we concentrate and get it done. I'm a deadline kind of guy, and that works for me. So right now,
you know, it just went out and published in print over the last two weeks, and if that point's going
to come again where I say, oh, I should have. It hasn't hit yet. Maybe we'll. Yeah, yeah, that makes
sense. So you was a fan. You listened to them, like you said, back in the day on transistor radio.
You had your perception of them, what they were. You have a different perception of what they
were now that you finished?
Well, I think the difference was about them as individuals.
I was aware, I had a pretty large, their stuff is in circulation now, things like big bear
family boxes of their music from all through the years.
I knew well past their early hits that the people who only very casually know them know.
So I was aware of the different periods of their music, their comebacks, the different
labels, the styles.
So I was able to hear some work in the studio.
I was able to see something people haven't seen for a little.
on time. They were primetime summer replacement TV show from 1970. There were things that I could get at
that maybe evolved the way I could talk about the making of some of these records. And talking to people,
I learned something about the production process. But most of what I felt like I learned was about the people,
you know. And I didn't have, I didn't have really locked down perceptions about it. I learned it. I
think my favorite question people ask is, how did you know all that? Of course, the answer is I didn't know all that. I found out all that.
Yeah, right. That makes sense. So as it started coming together and it was taking shape,
did you ever have that feeling that there's just one more story, one more item, one more topic,
anything that might just put the cherry on top to make it that much better for you?
Well, there's always more. I mean, the fact of the situation is, as I said, a lot of people,
if I had any idea I was doing this book 15 years ago, I would have been other than,
to talk to a lot of people that aren't available to me to talk to anymore. There's always that,
you know, but it's now. You make the most of what you can do with when and where you do it and
the materials you can get at. So I don't worry about that too much. There's enough to do,
as you asked before, with what you have. Yeah, for sure. Now that it's completed, it's getting out there
for everybody to purchase. Are you getting reactions yet? And if you are, are they the reactions
that you had hoped for.
Well, I'm already getting it.
There have been, I got to say,
really positive reviews of the LA Times,
the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post,
readers, magazines that cover books as they come out.
It's been pretty universally as much as I could ask for.
And I don't mean, yeah,
and they're like five stars, thumbs up,
must read, all that kind of stuff.
But I think what really touches me
is that the things I meant to do,
which I just said to you,
which is get them on the page,
show how what they made related to who,
who they are. There's a bunch of smart reviewers who've been picking up on what I hoped would be found.
And when you hear somebody's picking up on what you wanted to do, there's nothing more gratifying than that.
Yeah, yeah, that way you know that they are getting exactly what you were writing about.
And not everybody will, and you can't count on that.
Yeah, that is so true. Now that you have this under the belt, what's next on the list of things to do?
Oh, I have no idea.
What's the next to flock is helping market this book for the months ahead.
And I'm 75 years old, man.
I mean, I hope I do another book, but I got a catch of breath.
Sure, I get that.
There was years between my last one on Ralph Pier and this.
The subject has to come to bubble up and find me, you know, I think at this point in life,
the next time I commit, you know, years, I better mean it, you know.
It's like I, it's not like I'm making my next single, you know.
This is a book.
And I'll be back right.
writing my reviews for the papers and those sort of things after a few months.
I took a break from that, but I don't know.
We'll see.
I have certain things in the back of my head, but I don't know which one would get to be real.
Yeah, so now that it's done, it's completely written.
My question is, are you happy?
Are you happy with the way it all turned out?
Yeah, I would have to say so.
I mean, I kind of agree with that old adage that it's better to have written and to be writing.
I mean, writing is hard, man.
You know, it's like lots of people in the art, including even some of the Everly family.
We're going to do our own book.
All these performers say, we're going to do our own book.
And they almost never do because when they started, they discover how very difficult it is.
It's long, it's hard, it's a slog, it's detailed.
And you have to have a certain appetite for it besides ability.
Better at both.
Exactly.
It's very difficult.
A lot of people do not realize how difficult.
it is to write about yourself or your family. Most people tend to forget most of the
integral things that are very important to the story, where someone like yourself will ask a lot
of questions and dig a lot. And that's where the deep dive comes in to get all the information
to put into the story that needs to be told. There's a fundamental difference between
memoirs, which is what you were just describing, and a biography. This is not a memoir. Those can be
great. That's a deliberately personal memory of somebody's experience with the other. My friend Tom
Piazza is about to have a book come out of the last couple of years his friendly relationship with
John Prine and traveling around with him. That's not a biography of John Prine, though he was going
to be doing that at one point. That's a memoir of his specific experience. This book is not my
specific experience. Well, what are two points? I briefly let her come in for a few paragraphs because
I was there. This is as best I can get.
get a knowledgeable, reasonably objective picture of what happened. You only got two questions.
What happened and how did that happen? Yeah. So where did you get some of the information?
Who helped you in contributing to some of the facts that were in the book?
There were people. I had a rule of the people that are alive that knew them over the years.
You'd think about the years it was. Like I said, almost everybody's 83. And if they're people
that writers go to, they've been dining out on those same Everly Brothers,
stories for up to 50 years, they've told them over and over.
And in my experience, if they change much,
it's because they're starting to get embellished
or somebody actually forgot something.
So I'd almost rather see what that we have documented
down in print from years ago than to revisit that,
who I did look for.
I wanted you people that I talk to like that.
Because you know, you get to ask the question,
nobody asks, which is an irritating thing
when you go to the documents.
You might be a good interview, and they get right up
to the one you really want to know,
and then they don't ask it.
I can do that. But most of the people I interviewed for the book, and there were still dozens, were people who were not talked to about this before. The producer of their TV show, the road manager for years. A couple, you know, they had seven wives between the two of them. I also spoke to two of some of the long-time girlfriends who haven't really been on the record before. And at this point, we're willing to talk. So it's a wide variety. Engineers, and on the other hand, there's a girlfriend. And I'm deliberately looking for the things that I have.
haven't known, the stuff I need to fill in, what I tried to get when I talk to people like that.
And it was helpful. Yeah, lots of those were very fruitful discussions. People can see in the book,
Blood Harmony. Yeah. Yeah. So, how long is the book?
I have 400 pages. Wow, 400 pages. I can just imagine the content in that.
It covers the whole 80 years. It goes back to their family. I mean,
Don and Phil Everly were performing with their dad in Chicago when they were like two and five
years old, two and four. I mean, so it's like basically, you know, and they were professionally performing
from like 1945 to 2005. It's 60 years. So there's a lot to kind of get a hold of there. Yeah, exactly.
So in 400 pages, I mean, you really did a real deep dive. And I'm sure you have things in there
that people have just completely forgotten about. Let me tell you something. People have already been
saying. Except for extremely involved fans who may have collected everything they know, there's
probably a high percentage of what's in this book. Nobody's ever read before they don't know and have
no idea. This is new stuff. As I say, it's not been done. That's just perfect. And when you can be
the first to bring out so many different things that have never, ever been told and bring that to a new
audience plus the older audience, that's a win. Well, I hope.
I mean, if they feel that way, it's, they have to have an appetite for what I'm telling them.
This is an emphosetic book.
This is not a nasty tell-all, you know, the gossip book.
It does have personal lives in it.
And there were dark chapters in those lives.
And I tell those straight, like the joyous chapters in their lives.
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that.
When you're trying to be as objective as you personally can as a writer, you have to tell the
darker things along with the lighter things, so it all
balances out so that it shows that everything that you wrote is very objective.
There's kind of two rules doing this.
One, remember what I'm saying about the structure of the book,
which is about the making of the music and who they were and how they interact.
So whether the specific story is dark or light, to the degree to which it affects both of those,
I'm interested in the personalized to the degree that affected the music they made and what they wrote and how they performed.
So that's not a dark or light question, is how significant and how,
How much did it matter? That matters to me. And then on top of it, you know, how telling is it?
A dark story that's like nothing but scurrilous and you're just trying to get clickbait on it is not telling.
It's clickbait. And a wonderful story about, you know, their happy birthday party and the happy spoiling kids is not necessarily very interesting either.
The question is in each case is, how does this matter?
When you were exploring this, did you discover anything perhaps lesser known that could resonate with people?
helping them feel more connected to their purpose,
or what really truly mattered to them
with what you wrote in the book?
Well, I certainly hope so.
That's what the 400 pages are.
I mean, they may not know
that Don Everly tried to commit suicide twice.
They may not also know
the great influence they had
on the entire generation of stars that came after,
whether that's Bob Dylan or the Beach Boys,
the Rolling Stones or Credence,
half the British invasion,
Beatles, but the Everly Brothers introduced a turn in music which has affected us ever since.
This is what matters here, which is that they weren't rock abilities.
They took inside out what people have been doing.
They maintained these close, sweet country harmonies, which they were raised on.
And they added to those hard-driving R&B guitar slashing rhythms.
That would have a future.
Nobody did that before them.
And you can immediately follow what happens next.
Ask the Beatles.
musicically, that mattered.
Yeah, absolutely.
That was the whole premise of my question.
You just nailed it perfectly.
I really like what you're doing and what you've written
because I love history of music.
And when you get into the history of people like the Everly Brothers,
whoever it may be,
there are just so many things that come out
that you just might not have realized.
So I think this is great that you wrote this book.
It's the whole point.
If you looked at the book,
the very first sentence is the different speech
between the famed and the rest of us is that so many people think they know them.
That is a great quote.
That's where this book starts.
In closing, what would you like to tell the listeners that they can expect that will give them
incentive to go out there and buy your book about the Everly brothers?
I think you have every reason to be curious about these two brothers and what they did.
You may be already.
What I can tell you is when you dive in there, you're going to feel like you know them more
than you ever knew them before,
and you're going to get a new sense of how they matter.
And a lot of people already have been telling me,
whoa, I didn't know about all those records.
Some people are saying it takes them a long time to read
because they keep turning to the records that come up to hear them.
That'd be good.
Have fun with you.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, this has been great.
Great conversation, great information.
I really appreciate you taking the time to join us today.
Thank you.
And I appreciate when people ask about how it happened.
And not just the subject.
You get used to people talking about the subject
rather than the fact that this is a written piece of work.
So thank you.
Oh, it's been my pleasure.
Thanks again.
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