Tony Mantor's : Almost Live..... Nashville - Tasman Archer's Musical Journey

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

British singer-songwriter Tasman Archer shares her journey from chart-topping success with "Sleeping Satellite" to her current independent music career. She discusses her upcoming album rele...ase, creative rebirth during the pandemic, and finding freedom outside the major label system. • Working independently on a new album "A Cauldron of Random Notes" releasing September 12th • Discovering hundreds of unfinished songs during the pandemic sparked her creative revival • Creating music without pressure led to more authentic expression and artistic satisfaction • The challenges and rewards of managing all aspects of music creation as an independent artist • Finding freedom after feeling like a "commodity" during her time with EMI Records • Growing up in Bradford surrounded by diverse musical influences from Nat King Cole to Sex Pistols • Overcoming initial shyness about her voice to eventually win a BRIT Award • Planning future releases including a rockier EP following the album Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:14 My career in the entertainment industry has enabled me to work with a diverse range of talent. Through my years of experience, I've recognized two essential aspects. Industry professionals, whether famous stars, or behind-the-scenes staff, have fascinating stories to tell. Secondly, audiences are eager to listen to these stories, which offer a glimpse into their lives and the evolution of their life stories. This podcast aims to share these narratives, providing, information on how they evolved into their chosen career. We will delve into their journey to stardom, discuss their struggles and successes, and hear from people who help them achieve their goals. Get ready for intriguing behind-the-scenes stories and insights into the fascinating world
Starting point is 00:01:00 of entertainment. Hi, I'm Tony Mantor. Welcome to Almost Live Nashville. Today, we're thrilled to welcome Tasman Archer, the celebrated British singer-songwriter, whose soulful voice and heartfelt lyrics have left an indeligible mark on music. Bursing onto the scene from Bradford, England, Tasman captivated the world with her 1992 chart-topping hit Sleeping Satellite. From her debut album, Great Expectations, earning a Brit Award for Best British Breakthrough Act in 1993, she's known for her seamless blend of pop, rock, and soul,
Starting point is 00:01:39 infused with heartfelt storytelling. From her early days as a seamstress to becoming a beautiful, loved voice in British music. Tasma's journey is as inspiring as her songs. Today, she's here to share reflections on her remarkable career and offer a glimpse into what's next on her
Starting point is 00:01:57 inspiring journey. So before we dive into our episode, we'll be right back with an uninterrupted show right after a word from our sponsors. Thanks for coming on. You're welcome. My pleasure. Yes, it's great to have you on. I understand you're working on a new project. Can you tell us
Starting point is 00:02:15 little bit about that. We've released our second single off the album which is called segregation seeds and that was uploaded to our YouTube channel just on Friday and we're also on with all the other aspects of that of releasing the next single just before the release of the album. So there's quite a lot to do still. It's ongoing really because we're actually building up my profile again as it's been such a long time since I've released anything. So yeah, we've done everything ourselves, we've done all the videos, we've done all the mixing, and getting the mastering sorted out and all the artwork and the website and, you know, the list goes on when you're an independent artist.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So, yeah, it's full on all the time. That's a lot of work. I have an independent label here in Nashville and I completely understand. Yeah. I really appreciate what you're doing because that sure is a lot of work. It is. You've got to learn a lot of the things, how it's done and how you proceed to actually get onto certain platforms or even input your own music to the right place.
Starting point is 00:03:15 and things like that, which we did on our last independent release, which was back in 2006, but it's a lot more, I mean, there's a lot more going on now, a lot more opportunities and more platforms. And so, yeah, it's full on, yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of work. It's changed a lot in the last 10 years, even the last five years. Yeah, yeah. There are just so many things that you can do to put your music out there to get an audience for it. That's right. Like I said, I mean, I've been away for a while, so we're not expecting, like, number one hits in the billboard charts and things like that.
Starting point is 00:03:48 If that happened, that's great. That's icing on the kick. Yeah, absolutely. But realistically, I mean, we're looking at it as building up, you know, the profile again and getting things to moving that way. Yeah, that's great. Now, being away, what was the fuel that ignited the flame to get started again? Yeah, I think after, I think we found that a little bit too, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:04:12 It wasn't a greatest experience, let's put it that way, it was tough going. It was a very steep learning curve for us, even recording in such a small setup that we have in our own personal studio to get a quality that was just at least touching on the same sort of quality you'd get in a plushed out sort of studio with all the sort of amenities and all the expertise that goes with that as well. So we did a lot of learning. And throughout that time, after that experience, we still didn't give up writing, but actually our priorities had changed a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:42 our life priorities and we were looking at other areas of music and perhaps putting our music in sync and other media. At that time we thought, well, we come to the conclusion, it was a reluctant conclusion that we thought we weren't going to release any more Tasman Archer music. So what changed your mind? It was only during the pandemic that we kind of like changed our minds because we had a lot of time to reflect on things and there was a lot of space for us to consider what we wanted to do with the music that we'd been accumulating over. many, many years. Because we'd looked and we'd found hundreds and hundreds of songs that were in various stages of completion. And a lot of them were really, really good. And we thought, well, why not
Starting point is 00:05:22 just finish it? Just to satisfy our muse, really. We didn't put any pressure on ourselves and we weren't thinking, well, we're going to release these. And even if we thought that at the back of our mind, we weren't going to go full blown with anything. Maybe we'd just throw something up and let people listen. That makes perfect sense. And it's a great plan. What happened next? So it kind of developed from there. We got the, I don't know, we got the feel of the vibe at that time that we felt we had a lot to say about things. I mean, at that time, over the years, gone by, we've all gone through some pretty bad things during that time period. And I think it was just too much for us.
Starting point is 00:05:58 We were kind of bubbling up with a lot of different ideas and things that we had to say and we do it through music. So all of that combined together, that's what gave us the impetus to go for. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Plus, music is a very powerful tool. Yes. You can listen to a song and go a couple of years back, or you can listen to a song and go 20 or 30 or 40 years back. Powerful.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah. Not many other things can do that. I think it's great that you took your time to do it the way that you wanted to do it. It must have felt really good. You're not putting any pressure on yourself. You're just doing it the way that you want to do it. You're not doing it with any great expectations. You're just doing it because you want to.
Starting point is 00:06:39 and then when people start hearing it and liking it, that's just the beauty of it. Yeah, I mean, during that time period that when we did set the plan to kind of complete, at least we looked at completing 30 out of the many hundreds that we had, and we thought that we'd pick and choose out of those, which would work out to be albums or even EPs or whatever. Yeah, that's how we came about choosing the songs for a cauldron of random notes
Starting point is 00:07:02 was from that back to 30 that we'd actually completed, fully completed. They're in the pipeline now, so we're actually going to get a release in music in quicker succession than what we used to do. So, yeah, there's no massive gap. Absolutely, because if you roll it back to the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, there was a certain protocol that the major labels would go by to release to radio. Yeah. Now, you can pretty much do what you want to do when you want to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:31 After being away from recording like you were for several years, how did it feel? what were the emotions that you thought you might have and those that you did have of getting back into the studio to record your own material again? I think when you've been, you haven't been doing it for a while, I think you feel like you're a newborn again.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You feel like it's the first time that you've ever even been in a studio or stood behind a microphone. And I used to get like real microphone fear for a little while there. You know, and I'd be singing away off-mite brilliantly and it's always been that way with me in the past as well.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So I didn't expect it. be, I think actually I did expect it to be different. I thought, well, I'm a bit of a veteran now. I know what I'm doing, blah, blah. And yeah, I still kind of felt that, that hesitation of whether it'd be good or not. I kind of had to get through that feeling and just forget everything and just channel what was coming out and stop trying to analyse things so much. So, and also, when you're doing it in an environment that we've set up, you want to get the best sound quality you possibly get. So occasionally, maybe you'd hear a plane going over, so it'd stop. We'd have to get. do another take and then conjure it up to get the best performance you can.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So you're dealing with a lot of, I wouldn't say restraints, but you're dealing with a lot of difficulties that you have to overcome to make sure that the music is, you know, is really kicking it. It's sounding good. Sure, I get that completely. It has to be the best it can be. Are you planning on performing soon? No, at the moment, like I said,
Starting point is 00:08:58 because we're on a role with everything and everything's in line and we've got like our things coming through the pipeline, We don't want to kind of like stop in the middle of that and then rehearse and go and do a gig. And then the whole momentum's lost. So we want to really try and make sure that we find that gap, that suitable gap between making music. And we've also got music that we're still ongoing with compound, you know, in a pile of the other stuff that we're going to be looking at and complete. So we have to find the perfect spot, if you like, to be able to take time away and then do something that we feel is going to work well with the material that we've got, the kind of set-up that we'll have, what kind of instrumentation, what set-up it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:09:38 So all of that has to be really considered before we even go out and do any live music. I'd like to do that because I want to see a really great artist couple of months back. Joseph Arthur, and he just did it with the pedals and things. It was just so amazing. I mean, it just brought it back then, and I felt the spark again to be able to maybe, oh, I could see myself doing it again now. Yeah. So it was inspiring to see somebody do it in that way.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah, that's good. I think you're really doing it the correct way by not pushing yourself to get out there too soon. No. Then when you finish your CD, you've got the satisfaction of thinking that you did it exactly the way that you wanted to do it. Yeah. Then that next step can be performing if you want to because there is nothing that says there's any way that you have to do this as long as you're happy with what you're doing. Yeah. And I think that you can fall into a trap when you have a big machine. behind you like a big record company. There's so many then music by committee, it's performance by committee, it's video by committee, everything seems like it's been taken out of your
Starting point is 00:10:43 hands. And that is not as if you've gone about and you've said, I've chosen this specific person I feel is on the same wavelength as me and we can kind of like prove our way through how we want to express ourselves in a video, say, in any other aspect of music. But you don't have that within a company. The company comes as it is. It's a package. The people involved in that don't always see the same vision as you do. Sometimes they see a better vision or that they can add to it. It's just a coincidental thing that happens occasionally. But yeah, to do it on your own terms is very satisfying because you know the journey is the journey
Starting point is 00:11:18 that you've actually chosen for yourself without pressure. Yeah, you brought up the difference of being independent as you are now or having the machine of a big label behind you. Yeah. A few years ago, you actually had that major label. You had some hit records out there. You won some awards. I did.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So now you reflect back on the hits that you had with that major label. What are some of the feelings that you felt like you learned from that that you can use to help yourself in what you're trying to do today? I think, I don't know. I think basically it's just the confidence of knowing that you can do it because being there and you've done it before, it was partly your, for the most part, 90% of it is partly something that's coming from you. All they're doing is marketing you. The marketing side of it. is something that you have to work out for yourself when you're an independent. That's another aspect totally.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, I think I've learned that you can actually do it. You can actually do it by yourself. And there is no real magic that happens apart from the fact that they do have gatekeepers within that system and that you have to work your way through those gatekeepers to get your music out there. And also to make sure that you are actually doing the best from your part to get the best sound quality, the best, you know, everything that you can do to make sure that that's on a par with what you'd expect when you're listening to other people who were actually on a big
Starting point is 00:12:37 label. But you have to do that within the restraints of what you've got, the resources of what you've got. And a lot of that comes with just years and years of learning. And I think we gave ourselves that space, intentionally, unintentionally, whatever. It worked out that John has always had, John, my partner, writing partner, and co-writing partner. He's always had that desire to look at the whole thing and to actually do everything properly and not to skimp on things. And if you can't afford to do it in a certain way, then find a way that's equally as God, the resources that you've got, yeah. Sure, that makes perfect sense. Now, you were on one of the largest record labels in the world, and that was EMI. They are. They had the marketing power. They had the purpose to get you
Starting point is 00:13:19 out there, and they helped you, and then you wound up going on your own, which a lot of people do. So by taking time away and just regenerating, when you came back, what was your mindset? How did you feel about the music that you were getting ready to record and put out there? I think I felt optimistic about that at that time, because at the time that we spent with EMI during the last period, the period that was soured, if you like, it gave me that impetus anyway to think, well, I don't really want to be in that kind of environment. I want to be in an environment where I feel I'm doing the best that I can with who I am and how I respond to things. I don't respond too well for people to imagine that we're going to keep doing the same record
Starting point is 00:14:05 or producing the same thing over and over and over again just because the business side of the music want it that way. That's a great point to have. I don't feel that that's the best way to approach music or to be an art. I think you have to have space to take things in, to take life in, when we did great expectations. Before we signed to the label, we had all those years of growing up through influences through music to your own life and your perspective and the three of us had that. And so it's like condensed down into one album. All of those, the good things, however you want to put it, is condensed into
Starting point is 00:14:41 one album from many, many years of experience of each of us. And so you have to have a bit of a space then to make space within yourself to take other things in. If you're constantly on the move and you're on the road, for me personally, I couldn't write on the road. I have to have a life and do other things. I have to have variety. I have to have, you know, the spice of life to be able to bring out life with it from me. That wasn't happening with being with a big record label.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Although when we first were looking to get signed, I always wanted to go with Virgin music because I had known that their catalogue of the people that they had on their roster, they gave them time to develop. There wasn't a thing like, okay, well, this wasn't a success. So, bye-bye, it wasn't like that. And I knew that at that time, but it wasn't to be.
Starting point is 00:15:31 We had more of an interest from EMI, and so that's how it panned out. But when we left all of that and I was then engaging into going into our own thing, which is independent, setting up our own independent label. And I felt free again. I felt like I'd taken back my own power. Yes, I completely understand that for sure. Now, you was born in Bradford? Yes, I was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So growing up there, who were some of your influences that you listen to that ultimately helped you evolve as a singer and, of course, as a songwriter. From a young age, there's always been music that's always been played in our house
Starting point is 00:16:09 and I'm the youngest of four, two older brothers and one older sister. My parents listened to a variety of range of music. It was Nat King Cole to, I don't know, Joe Stafford, to anything, really, reggae. And sometimes they'd listen to a lot of pop music they'd like. some of the pop music from Queen and things like that. So my sister was into more funk and soul,
Starting point is 00:16:33 more like Marvin Gay and all that kind of stuff, into the real sort of deep black funk-type soul music. And my other brother, the oldest one, he was into Cape Bush and Abba and things like that. And then my other brother was one year and a bit older than me. He was into sex pistols and myths and some reggae stuff and classical music. He had a wild. wide, wide range of music that he was into.
Starting point is 00:16:59 That's a wide range of music, but it's all very good. Yeah, all good, yeah. With all that music around you from your parents to your brothers to your sister, do you think in the back of your mind that that's kind of what gave you the mindset to create a journey for music in your life? Whenever I was listening to music, I was always recording myself afterwards, after I'd listened to it over and over again. I had an album that I had on a little record player that I had it on,
Starting point is 00:17:27 Pete, it was by Joe Stafford. Yeah, and she was probably the pop star of the day back in, what is it, the 50s? My mother gave me that album. I just used to play it and play it and play it and fall asleep to it sometimes. And then I'd just kind of like listen again and sing myself and try to make sure that I was honing my voice to sound just as good and breathing in the right places and getting the right quality. I did that with many, many records. Then I also make up my own songs and have them on a little tape and put me in a briefcase under my bed. nobody could see them or hear them.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And so I was quite shy at that time. Even at school, I was in sort of my choir, the chorus things because I used to do musicals at school. And I never used to want to be in the front of anything. I didn't want people to notice my voice. In fact, I was tiny bit shy of anybody hearing my voice. I didn't think that my voice was, I don't know, the typical type of voice.
Starting point is 00:18:19 That's how I heard myself. I used to think, well, I like the sound of it, but is it really fitting in with anybody else in his voice? If I sing out, is people going to, and like go, oh my God. Until one day my parents heard me at Christmas and we all had to go singing. How'd that happen? And then,
Starting point is 00:18:35 what was their response to it? My father brought first tape cassette thing with a microphone, a flat thing. So when it came on my turn, I had to do it. So I saw, and they were all like flabbergasted. It was like, oh, wow. That kind of gave me a little bit of confidence knowing that they were very pleased about hearing my voice,
Starting point is 00:18:53 although I never sung very much in front of them. And then I joined bands when I left school. Yes, I understand that you did some singing after you got out of school. Doing backing vocals for people. And I worked at a recording studio of the guy that I knew from one of the bands. And through that, he kind of introduced me to do some backing vocals for local bands in the area in Bradford. There were all types of bands. They were got got got got.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I think at that time Southern Death Cult were around. They're called the Colt Now. Ian Asprey used to come at that studio. And there was quite a few different types of bands. And if they wanted it back in the band, singer and they felt my voice was suitable, then I'd go ahead and do that until one day I became the lead singer in a band and just doing like clubs and things like that and covers. Never anything original until later on. And it was always people writing, if it was anything, they would
Starting point is 00:19:42 write the song and then just give it to me. And I wasn't very happy about that. I didn't want to be a voice on a stick that's what I used to say at the time. And until I met John Hughes and John Beck, and they encouraged me to start writing. And I started writing them. And that's how it took off. Yeah, that's great. And one of the first songs that you released was Sleeping Satellite, correct? Sleeping Satellite, yeah, yeah. Yes, that song did really, really good for you. So I can just imagine that that helped your confidence to grow and know that you could do this. Yeah, it was leading up to that. We actually had Sleaping Satellite on a lot of the demos that we did. Sleeping Satellite, and lots of new church, and a lot of the songs that were on great expectation were on this demo that we sent out to
Starting point is 00:20:26 record companies and publishers, and they still didn't hear what we heard. It wasn't until we got a publisher on board, and then that publisher led to us getting a manager, and then between all three of us, we persuaded EMI to sign us. Then they kind of probably got the vibe that we was giving out, that Sleeping Satellite was something special, and a lot of the other tracks too. And eventually we got a really good producer on board, Julian Mendelsohn
Starting point is 00:20:50 and Wiccans, who, Paul Wickens, who was actually with Paul McCartney and Paul McCartney's band, who came on board to record the songs with us. But he had to leave halfway through because obviously he had other duties elsewhere with Paul McCartney. And then got another guy on board, a really good guy called Peter Kaye,
Starting point is 00:21:06 who started working alongside Julian Mendelsohn and we completed the album then. So, yeah, it was tough going to build it all up from the start. It is very tough in this business for sure. The good thing is that out of all this recording and everything you went through, you had a number one song in the UK and around the world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:26 The album did well. I think it went top 10. Then you got nominated for the Breakthrough Act. And then you won that. Yeah. That's a really good resume. It is. Yeah, we got nominated for an MTV Award as well.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It was in a different category to normal. It's sort of like an indie type category. The Best Newcomer Video or something like that. And it was in your care, which I can totally understand because in your care is quite gritty and a little bit different as well. So there's a lot of flavors in Great Expectations on the album, which there are on Bloom as well, which we did with Mitchell Froome and Chad Blake. They did a brilliant job with that, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Like I say, EMI really loved it at first and until personnel changed. That was when they sat on it from 1995. Yeah. I've been in this music business for so long, and I've seen so many artists that have gotten hurt by major labels because they sat on things. The good thing is, is they promoted you, and you got a lot of good things from it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. And then you was allowed to evolve into this. I am grateful for that. I don't know how that... I wouldn't have felt that way at the time because I felt a little bit like commodity at the time. I just felt disillusioned by the whole thing. So at that time when we split, it was, to me, it was a relief. And I felt free, like I said, I just felt free.
Starting point is 00:22:41 That's great. You have to feel good about yourself and what you're doing. Now, you're working on your new single. You've already had one out. What's next on the agenda after that? Well, when the album's out, because the album's out on 12 of 16. September, there will be another single out just before the album's release, a week before, I think, is something. Yeah, so, and then after that, when the album's out, obviously we'll be trying to push a profile for that and keep that going. And then we have to now look at the other tracks that
Starting point is 00:23:10 we have in the pipeline. And we're thinking, perhaps it'll be an EP. It'll be an EP that'll be released next. And they'll have a lot different flavor to them. It'll be about four tracks on the EP. I don't know how many we'll put on. But anyway, I think it would be a bit more. rocky, I think, and they'll have their own flavor. So, yeah. Well, this podcast will be released sometime in October, so by the time it's released, you'll have it all out, and you should be rocking by then. That's great. Yeah. So it sounds like you've got a tremendous plan. Well, we've got a good plan. Let's up. We've taken time out to make sure that we're making everything going in the right time, at the right, you know. Absolutely. Everything you're doing makes complete sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well, this has been really good. Great conversation, great information, just a great story that you have. I really appreciate you taking the time to come on. I appreciate you having me on. Thank you. I'd like to come on when we got our letter on when the album's out and things like that.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'll come on again, speak to it. It's been really, really good. Yes, it's been fun and really enjoyable. Thanks again. Thanks for joining us today. We hope you enjoyed the show. This has been a Tony Mantor production. For more information, contact media at plateau music.com.

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