Too Scary; Didn't Watch - 28 WEEKS LATER (Vault Release)

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. The new McRispy strip is here. Dip approved by ketchup, tiny barbecue, honey, mustard, honey mustard, Sprite, McFlurry, Big Mac sauce, double dipped in Buffalo and ranch, more ranch, and creamy chili McRispy strip dip. Now at McDonald's. Hi, everybody. Just a quick little note up top to let you guys know that this episode
Starting point is 00:00:27 was originally released on our Patreon in July of 2024. And we are releasing it now because 28 years later is not far away and we figured you might want to listen to this one before then. 28 years later can confirm we'll be part of Hell Chella 2, Two Hell Two Chella. Can't forget, wait, I think this is the movie I'm the most excited for. So this hopefully will get everybody up to speed and ready. And if you wanna join our Patreon, there's lots of other bonus episodes on there at patreon.com slash TSDW podcast. You can probably hear a dog barking in the background,
Starting point is 00:01:14 but we hope that you enjoy this episode and we'll be back next week with a regular new release for you and we love you so much. Okay, enjoy. This is Emily, Henley and Sammy. And you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, bonus episode number two for the month of July. You know how normally we're like, oh my god, end of July already?
Starting point is 00:01:55 This is the first time that I'm like, wait, it's still July? July, yeah. I think summer is just too much. Some people love summer, I guess I get it in some ways, but mostly I'm just like, can we get a move on? It's fucking hot. I love the idea of summer, it's way too hot currently. It's just way too hot. It's so fucking hot.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And it's like, we are grownups now, and so, like nothing changes for me in the summer except that it's hotter, and I still have to do, like I like that I guess the sun stays up later and you can like do more evening things. Yeah, that is nice, a little like happy hour after work. But that's pretty much all I got. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:41 That's all I got for summer. Yeah, if it were like 10 degrees, 10 to 15 degrees cooler. Yeah, or if I could just like be in a pool all the time, but I can't. Yeah, great point. This is actually getting to one of my things. And so I feel like I'll just bring it up right now. Oh, wow, one of your things. One of my things? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I'm just really curious to hear what this is. How many things are you talking about? You know, this isn't a catch up episode, right? Oh, it's not. It's not a catch up episode. No, we're recapping the movie. We're recapping the movie, baby. Oh my God. I thought it was a, I thought it was a check in episode. You guys. Yeah. I want to hear what I want to hear what it is anyways, but I really thought it was a check in episode. Oh my God, I thought it was a check-in episode, you guys. Well, now I wanna hear what your feelings are, but. Yeah, I wanna hear what it is anyways, but. What I really thought it was a check-in episode, oh my God, I have to rearrange all of my expectations. Okay, I'll be fine. Okay, hold on this, you got this.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Sorry, hold on this, you got this. You can do this. Recalibrate, recalibrate. I mean, in some ways, it's a big weight off your shoulders. No, no, that's not true because of the length, and I will have to return to my crying children at a later moment. Yep, but maybe hopefully they're not crying anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You guys, being a parent, being a parent mostly just for children under like four, I think it's like a 24 seven job, fucking 24 seven. Like it's like non stop, non stop. Like I was so hungry and I had to pee a lot of today and I didn't eat or pee a lot of today. Like I was like not eating, not peeing. Like I was only taking care of my children and it is fucking nuts. But one thing I wanted to talk about in our fucking check-in episode, which is now a recap episode, which I've recalibrated and I am amped for. I'm amped for it. My mom took me and Silas and Mae to a fire station today. We've done this multiple times because I was obsessed with firefighters. But unfortunately this is a volunteer firefighter station and there was no one there.
Starting point is 00:04:53 No one there. So then- Love, love, hope there's no fires. No. Okay. So I know a lot about firefighting now. And one thing that's true is that in a rural community, it's all volunteer firefighters. It's very normal for that to be the case. So they call someone at their
Starting point is 00:05:10 job and they have to leave their job immediately to go to fight the fire. They don't stay or live at the fire station. That's very normal. So that's like where we are. Because the demand is low. Right. The demand is low and that's just how it works. Okay. Interesting. Anyway, it was like a hundred degrees outside and humid as fuck. And the sun was like beating down on us and I hadn't put sunscreen on any of us. And I'm wearing May in the carrier and Silas is just walking and I'm wearing May in the carrier and Silas is just walking and we're supposed to go meet my mom somewhere, which is like maybe a mile away. And I thought there'd be more shade
Starting point is 00:05:54 for walking and there was like no shade. And so like truly like five minutes into the walk, Silas is so disappointed because he thought he was gonna get to see firefighters and he didn't. And we're walking and it's so hot and Salus keeps going, it's hot mama, it's hot mama. This is like bright red. Oh no. And so what I was gonna just recommend. He believes that you have the power to change the weather.
Starting point is 00:06:29 That's remarkable. Which I do not. But we did have a few water bottles. So and Sammy, I feel like we've talked about this. We a thing that is so beautiful in a moment of pure, pure sadness from the heat is just dump fucking water all over yourself. You just dump it all over yourself. So Silas, May and I were just dumping water on ourselves. Silas is getting a full head, like full like bottle of water on his head like, and just laughing. He loved it. He still made me
Starting point is 00:07:07 carry him though. So I carried Silas and May in like beating down heat at like 1pm. Brutal. And I got like, I don't know if you guys can, you can tell on the zoom, but I got like a full sunburn on my face. Yeah. And May has a sunburn on her legs and her arms and Saz had a sunburn too. And it's like, that's my fault. I forgot sunscreen. I just like didn't think about it. Hey, I got sunburned as a kid. It happens. I didn't think about it. I was like, we're going to the fire station. That didn't work out. I didn't think about the next step.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah. Right, right, right. Anyway, so I was just going to recommend dumping a full bucket of water on yourself if you're really hot. It feels good. It feels good. You know, it also feels good is that I'm going to drink a full cup of tequila while we do this. Ooh, tequila, tequila. While we do this recap. I can't wait. Re-calibrate.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, you're ready for anything. I'm ready for anything, I am. What the heck are we recapping, Sammy? I'll tell you what it is. This is a patron chosen episode. I put some sequels in the poll as we, you know, there's so, so many sequels to horror movies and it's a blind spot for me.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I've talked about it before, but the patrons did choose one that I've already seen, but we have not yet covered it. It is 28 weeks later. Okay, yes. I'm so excited. In 2007. It's great. I love this movie a lot and I was very happy to rewatch it. It was directed by Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, written by Juan Carlos Fresnadillo, Rowan Joffe, Enrique Lopez-Lavine, and Jesus Olmo, starring Robert Carlyle, Rose Byrne, Jeremy Renner, Imogen Poots, Macintosh Muggleton, and Idris Elba.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Oh, what a cast. A star cast. Macintosh Muggleton. Really surprising name. Not the Harry Potter character. No. Truly. One would think. One would think.
Starting point is 00:09:32 He's like the child actor in this and I feel like maybe he did not continue acting. Let me see. I guess I didn't look this up. I'm looking at him. I'm looking him up right now. He goes by Mac now. That makes sense. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 28 weeks later is the only thing he's ever been in. Okay. Well. There's upcoming stuff. That's weird. He's getting back into it. Okay, Macintosh. 20 weeks later is streaming on Hulu, by the way. Great.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And it has a 72% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 78% on Metacritic, and a 6.9 on IMDB. Nice. Budget was 15 million, it made 65.8 million. Also nice. Also pretty nice. And yeah, obviously this is the sequel to 28 Days Later. Wow. 28 Days Later was directed by Danny Boyle, written by Alex Garland, starring Killian Murphy.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I forgot it was written by Alex Garland. Yeah. Cool. It's one of our first ones. Yeah. And that particular team was working on Sunshine at this time in 2007, which we also have to do one day, another great flick.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And so this team took over, and I think they did a great flick. And so this team took over and I think they did a great job. I feel like a horror sequel can be tough to pull off. There's a lot of bad ones. And I think this kind of like captures the essence of the original that feels very almost documentary style filmmaking they're very like handheld kinda messy dirty films in a way that all it like almost feels found footage but it's not but it
Starting point is 00:11:38 it adds to a scariness factor for me someone who is more scared of found footage films just because it feels a little more gritty and real and I can, I don't know, get a little more immersed in it as opposed to how we talk about Harry Potter horror when it's like everything is too perfect. Clean and bright. Clean and bright. And like has like sweeping very beautiful shots, like cinematography moves. I mean, it's, you know, it's harder to get totally wrapped up in it,
Starting point is 00:12:15 in my opinion. Robert Carlyle, you may remember is in Ravenous. He's a, he's kind of a that guy. He's a recognizable He's kind of a that guy. He's a recognizable guy. He's a that guy. I can't remember which of the guys he was in Ravenous. I mean, one of the, there weren't that many guys. I think he's kind of the main bad one.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I think he's the main bad one. Yeah. I think he's the main bad one. Yeah. He's also in train spotting. He's great. He's a great actor. Oh, and once again, I've learned in pulling him up, same as it did in Ravenous, but it's my same birthday.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Oh yeah. Look at that. Look at that. Ares man, I think think different than Aries women. Yes, I think that's true. So he turned down a role. And that's the one place gender is real. And the only in that specific sign.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Just there, just that. Let's continue. He had turned down a role in 28 Days Later, the Christopher Eccleston part. And so I guess probably after that was like, oh, fuck, why did I do that? And she was given a second chance and signed on to this one.
Starting point is 00:13:44 So congrats, Rob. Danny Boyle and Alex Garland are producers on this one. And just like a little bit of news, I think most people have probably heard of this, but 28 years later is happening. It just began filming and it's- They skipped months? Yes, I think it's just been long enough because
Starting point is 00:14:08 Killian Murphy is returning to it. And so like. I mean, 28 years later is also it is a better title than 28 months later, because if you hear 28 months later in my head, I'm like, too. Yeah, a little over two. Yeah, like it's hard to not be like, why that method of measurement? Yeah. So yeah, method of measurement? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah, that is better. Yeah. So it's filming now supposed to come out in 2025. We will definitely be covering that. This cast is great. Killian Murphy, Jodie Comer, Aaron Taylor Johnson, Ray Fiennes, and Jack O'Connell. An extremely hot, extremely hot cast. Oh my God, that's a hot cast.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Whoa. I can't fucking wait. Whoa. Okay. And it's Danny Boyle and Alex Garland are returning as well. So I think we're in good hands. I feel optimistic. Yeah, I feel we're in good hands. I feel optimistic. Yeah, I feel optimistic about that for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Emily, have you seen 28 Days Later? Did you ever watch it? I haven't, no, but I should. Yeah, remind me of your guys' feelings on this kind of genre, zombie kind of. I think that this is one of the types of films that makes me feel upset. Because it's not the zombies, it's not the like dystopian future, it's the fact that like people are evil and it's the people that will ultimately get you.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I don't like that. I don't like to be reminded of that. And so I think that's what this movie is trying to tell you There's some of that for sure. I remember feeling that a lot in the Walking Dead series of Which I think is fascinating of just like who you would become in a very high stakes life-or-death situation because of course there would be Both there would be people who were like, trying to help others. I think it would be a much smaller percentage of people.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But maybe that says more about me than anything. I think probably a lot of people would become their worst selves. I think it's I think it's really fascinating too. And I think that actually speaks to why I'm more interested in this type of film than like an everyday, not dystopian, not future, not zombie film that does that is because it's like, it gives me both. It gives me like the comfort of a fantasy of a zombie comfort of a fantasy of a zombie, plus the disturbing human nature that would go along with it. Without that provides kind of like a nice buffer.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Like a nice emotional buffer. It's not just like a straight slasher. A bunch of people are being evil for no reason. It's not like the strangers. Or let's speak no evil. It's like there's of people are being evil for no reason. It's not like the strangers. It's like, there's a reason and it's zombies and we don't have zombies. So none of this could ever happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, that is nice. Great, so just keep that in mind. Just keep that in mind. I think let's watch the trailer at the end and get straight into this recap. Oh, I think let's watch the trailer at the end and get straight into this recap. Oh, I'm ready. I'm ready too. I've always avoided push-up bras because, not to brag, I have pretty big boobs and I
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Starting point is 00:18:49 We're in England, remember these movies take place in England and it's Robert Carlyle plays a character named Don and it's him and his wife Alice who are preparing dinner. But we see some clues that this is definitely after the events of the first film, all the windows are boarded up, there's a photo of another family in this house that they kind of look, they don't like turn it down, like put it face down so they don't have to look at it. But that's the vibe of like kind of, you know, there's somebody has died, maybe we're in their place. And, but that said, they are having a seemingly nice evening where they're kind of flirting with each other. There doesn't seem to be any imminent danger. They seem like they've
Starting point is 00:19:46 been here for a while and kind of are in the groove of life in this location. After they have prepared a big bowl of pasta, which looked pretty good, honestly. They bring it out into the dining room and we see they are hiding out with a couple other people. There's probably six or so of them total. Oh, something they say while they're flirting is like, thank God we sent the kids to boarding school. So we know that they have kids together, which I didn't remember this, but in these movies,
Starting point is 00:20:25 the virus seems to be localized to Britain. And so their kids were outside of the like containment. Contamination zone. Contaminated zone, yeah. So they have not had contact with them obviously because they are living in a kind of post-apocalyptic world, but they are assuming that their kids are safe somewhere. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I thought you were saying that because like, thank God they're dead and we didn't have to worry about it. We get to just be here by ourselves. Yeah. Do you want some more wine? It was kind of jarring to me when they said it, but it makes a little more sense later. Okay, so they bring the food out to the other people. They're serving the food into bowls.
Starting point is 00:21:19 They hand one to one woman who sets it at an empty place setting next to her and is kind of like, he's gonna want it when he comes back. And everyone's shifty eyed looking at her like, ooh, he's not coming back. And one of the guys loses his temper and basically yells, I heard that, and he's like, he's not coming back. And if he comes back, he's not gonna want pasta. He's gonna want to eat you.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Which is like, calm down, dude. This is a little calm down, dude. This is, this is a little big of a reaction. And as he's yelling at her, he says, there's nobody out there. It's just us in here. Like we're alone. And right at that moment, loud banging on the door, knock, knock, knock, knock, everybody. Quiet turns. what the fuck and we hear a Little kid screaming for help like let me in and Alice the wife is Like jumps up immediately is like it's a boy
Starting point is 00:22:17 It's a little boy and dawn is being more hesitant like we can't open the door. We can't open the door And she pushes him. She's like we're opening it, I don't care what you say, which, you know, I don't know. That's the best idea. But she gets there first, and she does open the door. And I really liked because they're in a very dark cottage, because all the windows are boarded up. And so when they open the door, the light from outside is Almost blinding in a way that just was kind of a cool unexpected Effect like you're like, whoa, the outside world is crazy And it's just a little boy by himself they bring him inside they lock the door back closed and
Starting point is 00:23:09 by himself. They bring him inside, they lock the door back closed, and they give him some pasta and they're asking him what happened. He's like, my family was chasing me, trying to kill me. Presumably his family has been turned into zombies or been infected with its reminder. It's the rage virus is what it's referred to in this. So that nobody says zombies in these movies, they're just infected with the virus. So, you know, they're taking him in and feeding him and showing him some kindness. And he sees that, you know, seems like not a threat. He's clearly not infected. Another reminder is that this disease
Starting point is 00:23:49 spreads extremely quickly. Like from the moment you are exposed to any bodily fluids of an infected person, it's like less than 10 seconds before you are fully infected. So it's clear that he's not infected. And so we're not like worried that he's bringing in a threat.
Starting point is 00:24:10 But the woman that was worried about her missing partner or husband or whoever that like left the food at the place setting for him is sneakily looking out the window and opening a little slat in the wood where it's boarded up to try to see if like, maybe he's coming, maybe he's coming. And there's a big jump scare where a one of the infected like grabs her through the opening in the door
Starting point is 00:24:43 or window or whatever it is and bites her and it just immediately turns full chaos because she's screaming and screaming and then again within 10 seconds she's infected and going to run in to attack the rest of them. So it just is this like very rapid spreading. That's better. I feel like like the only other thing I'm it just is this very rapid spreading. That's honestly better. I feel like the only other thing I'm thinking about is the last of us, where it's pretty slow. And it's better, A, because you know quickly
Starting point is 00:25:13 if someone got infected, but also just as someone experiencing it, that slow just knowing I'm gonna be so fucked. I would so much rather be like, ow, rah! That's like, oh, right. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I agree. So. Everybody's running now, and it seems like they have a plan in place for a situation like this.
Starting point is 00:25:41 They're all running to a specific area, except for this little boy who is not familiar with their safety protocols and he runs right Upstairs, which is not where they're supposed to go. Alice chases after him. Dawn is screaming Alice No, like don't don't like come to the place we're supposed to go She doesn't so dawn follows her upstairs as you know more infected are breaking down the wall like they're getting in and just multiple people inside have been infected now. We see Alice has gotten to the room upstairs that she saw the little boy run into but can't find him. He's obviously hiding somewhere, but she's trying to get him to take him to safety. She's like, where are you? Where are you? We're hearing the zombies running up the stairs. Behind her,
Starting point is 00:26:30 Dawn is calling out to her from across the room and trying to pull her through a different hallway. She sees the boy in the closet and says, no, I see him, I got him, I gotta grab him, goes across the room to get the little boy as a bunch of zombies break down the door and get in and she turns back to Dawn and is like, Dawn, help us, and Dawn looks at them and just closes the door and runs. And it's pretty fucking brutal. It's not like
Starting point is 00:27:09 it would have been easy to save them and yes, he probably would have died, but it also is just like, man, there was, it's, there were only like two of them in there. He is not, he did not try it all and And just makes eye contact with his wife and you see her, like realize he's not gonna help her and it's rough and he jumps out the window. And fucking runs. Oh my God. But again, this is the kind of thing that like,
Starting point is 00:27:44 of course somebody would do that. Like in movies, we're very primed for everyone to be very heroic and in, you know, life, you think your partner is good. And I think for the most part they would. But like, you don't fucking know in a situation where there's hordes of zombies running. It's also like, I just can't imagine. Like. God, what else is there to live for? You know, like I, now I'm certain my partner is dead and I have to like be on the run.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Like, I would so much rather try and save them and either they die or we both. It's just because also what else is there left to do? Yeah, but I think like a lot of times it would just be like you're not having those thoughts necessarily. You're just like little. What's your I was going to say I was going to say rat brain, but lizard brain is what I meant to say. Lizard brain of just like survive, survive, get out, get out. And but he's not not gonna feel good about this later. No, certainly. There's not a lot to look forward to for him, I'm sure. No.
Starting point is 00:28:53 So he jumps out the window, he runs out to, there's a dock, like a little river with a small boat on a dock that one of the other guys from their little house situation is untying the boat. And now we're just seeing like 50 to 100 zombies like coming from every direction. It's looking very, we don't like these odds. He's screaming at the guy like,
Starting point is 00:29:26 Untie it, like we gotta go, we gotta go. And in the commotion of him jumping into the boat and the other guy trying to jump into the boat, the other guy falls into the water as all these zombies jump into the water and they take the other guy out. So Don just is the sole survivor of this situation in a really unfortunate way.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And it goes from like really loud while all these attacks are happening and they're screaming. But he like gets the motor on the boat started and so he gets far enough away that then it becomes like completely silent. And they're in the very beautiful picturesque like English countryside. And it's just this moment of him kind of like, as he's just going down this very beautiful river.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Was it worth it, Dawn? Was it worth it? Probably not. I think that's one thing that it fucks your lizard brain up when you become a mom. You're rat brain. You're rat brain. You're rat brain switches. And no longer are you like protect myself. You're like protect small children. Yeah. And so that's like her running up the stairs for this child. Any small children? Do you think you would do it for a stranger small child? It depends on how old they are. That's probably like a really fucked up thing to say, but like, I don't know what the age is for the cutoff, but like- Someone that can't help themselves. At least three and under, I would probably have a rat brain situation with a three and under
Starting point is 00:30:58 in that situation where I'd be like, that's my child. Like I would probably feel that way. Unless it was a like, unless it was a like your kid or that kid situation. Oh, of course I would choose my kid. Of course I would. That's the whole thing about the rat brain is it's like protect my offspring and then something about your rat brain is like if your offspring isn't there, they're my offspring then. I see. I see. You know what I mean? It's like, then they take- A little stand in.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Immediately take the place, like so quickly. I could see them taking the place of my child. Yeah. If they weren't present. I can totally see that happening. Yeah. 100%. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So this is- Let's hope it doesn't. Realistic. Yeah, let's hope it doesn't. So this is realistic. Yeah, let's hope it does it. So after he's made it to safety at what cost, Dawn cuts to black and we get some text that says, 15 days later, and this is basically
Starting point is 00:31:56 running through a timeline of the events of this virus. 15 days later, Britain is quarantined. 28 days later, Britain is destroyed by the rage virus. Five weeks later, the infected have died of starvation. Pretty handy. I wouldn't have necessarily thought that they could die of starvation, but good to know in this documentary film.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Real life. I think if they're fast moving, then yeah, they'll die of starvation, right? Many a lot of calories. Yeah. But we don't know how their anatomy works. No, we don't. But anyways, pretty cool that they all died
Starting point is 00:32:45 just by themselves. And like five weeks, isn't it? You have to make it five weeks, but like you can make it five weeks. Yeah. Also, I guess Great Britain's an island, you know, like if it's really contained to that space, cause it's literally only there.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Okay, and so then the movie answer. As far as we know, as far as we know, it's only there. Yes. No, no, no, no. Eleven weeks later, America led NATO forces enter London. Eighteen weeks later, Britain declared free of infection. Twenty-four weeks later, Reconstruction begins, and then we get our title, 28 weeks later reconstruction begins and then we get our title 28 weeks later.
Starting point is 00:33:26 So we are now in a world where yes, the Britain is free of infection and it's a little post apocalyptic. There's like a quarantine zone and a lot of military presence, strict rules of not going outside of certain areas and whatnot. But we're on our way to rebuilding society and that is cool. Unless of course you let your wife die and are living with that. Right. So we see Jeremy Renner.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Love to see him. He's a sniper, basically patrolling the perimeter of this safe zone. We see quite a few snipers talking to each other through their little headsets, being like, oh, this is the worst war ever. Who am I gonna shoot out here? So boring. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Jeremy Renner's name is Doyle, which in the trivia said that's a reference to Danny Boyle because D for Danny and an oil for Boyle. Really made me laugh. Wait, oil for Boyle. I don't know that it was phrased like that, but it should have been. Doyle, D as in Danny, oil as in Boyle. Wait, I have a doiled. D as in Danny, oil as in boil. Wait, I have a genuine question. Have either of you ever seen a movie with Jeremy Renner where he doesn't have a gun? No. I mean, he really sticks to the bow and arrow in the Avengers movies. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Oh, okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. But okay, that's kind of a weapon. I'm trying to place. Has he ever been anything without a weapon? This movie in his okay. So this was a few years before he did Ghost Protocol. That's all I needed to know. When was Hurt Locker? This was around Hurt Locker time, right? I think so. Hold on. I have this one. 2011 Hurt Locker? This was around Hurt Locker time, right? I think so. Hold on. I have this one. Hurt Locker 2011? Hurt Locker? Oh, it was that much later? 2000? No, no, it was earlier than that.
Starting point is 00:35:31 It was like 2008. I'm thinking it's 2008. Yeah, I always get my college and my high school graduations mixed up. Understandable. Um, he's been in a lot of stuff with guns, that's for sure. That's for sure. I think he has been in some things without, but he's been in a lot of stuff with guns, that's for sure. That's for sure. I think he has been in some things without, but he's been in a lot of stuff with guns. I'm actually... American Hustle.
Starting point is 00:35:55 No, he does have a gun at some point in American Hustle, right? I can't recall, but I'm really curious about this now. I like that. Guess we're going to have to watch all his movies to find out Renner mania a couple renner heads over here ready for Renny I Oh boy. I really like Wind River. That's my favorite movie of his. Does he have a gun in that?
Starting point is 00:36:32 I haven't seen it. Yes, he does. He does. Okay. Okay. See, it's like we talk about being typecast as one type of thing, but like, Sometimes you can be typecast as holding a gun. This is the definition of typecast.
Starting point is 00:36:45 It's like you have to have a gun. We're not gonna cast you if you don't have a gun. Yeah. I guess I'll tell my Jeremy Renner story. I've told it before for sure, but when I was working at a trailer place, we worked on the Bourne, whatever Bourne movie he was in. He like replaced one, Matt Damon was like,
Starting point is 00:37:06 I didn't really work. Yeah, he was like, I don't wanna do any more of these and Jeremy Renner was like, I'll do it. I get a gun, right? I can do it. I can fucking do it. They would send us updated versions of the film. We'd get a rough cut and then they would tune it up a bit.
Starting point is 00:37:24 We'd get an updated thing. And I was an assistant editor at the time and we'd have to overcut old footage with the new footage. And so I had to overcut a lot of TV spots of this. And there was a scene where he comes out of the water. And when you overcut it, you have to A and B it like, so it's do picture do a picture, a picture, a picture, a picture, make sure it's exactly matched. And I saw that he had been given a very large six pack like they were. He was getting. Enhanced in a later cut of the movie frame by frame. Yeah, they have to go frame by frame for that.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It's it's. Yeah, it's a lot. So so specific, it's crazy. I was really scandalized. I think this was early enough that this was being really scandalized when I learned that people would go like frame by frame and trim like fat from addresses. Like underarm, they would basically like, what is that app that everybody's mad about? Facetune.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But obviously of the highest caliber. But frame by frame. It's like someone's job is to just make Jeremy Renner look more cut. And it takes so long. Just frame by frame. We should be defining. Just so that regular people can hate themselves. We should be aware of this when the budget seems like higher
Starting point is 00:38:54 than we're expecting it to be. Oh, well that's the abs. Yeah, yeah, that's the abs. It's crew face tuning frame by frame that happens throughout the whole. Be a real actor and just starve yourself and then chug diet coke and gummy bears right before your take.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Jeremy? Jeremy? I know, I know. Doyle? Yeah, they made cocaine so much harder to access, you know, in the 2000s. And if only- That's the issue here. That's the issue.
Starting point is 00:39:24 That's the real bummer. Wow, that's too that's the issue here. That's the issue. That's a real bummer. Wow, that's too bad about the six pack. I mean, that's too bad. I also would love to know what they would do to my body. Do you know what I mean? It's like, Oh, that's interesting. I'm curious what his involvement with is, if it's like in his contract, that's like, Oh, you have to do this. Or if they do that like without his permission, which I know they do on like magazines a lot where people get mad when they're retouched.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I'm sure it's without his consent. Don't you think? I don't know. I could really see it going either way. I could see him like demanding it or I could see him being scandalized. Pleasantly surprised. As a release. Is he one of the people we think might have yelled at Rebecca Ferguson? Oh. You know, I wouldn't count him out.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I think he's one of the candidates. I think he is. I wouldn't count him out. Always holding a gun. Don't trust a man that's always holding a gun. That's a pretty good rule of thumb, probably. Yeah. I think that's safe holding a gun. That's a pretty good rule of thumb, probably. Yeah. I think that's safe to say. We also see Rose Byrne is a military medic type of thing. She's working more in the medical unit,
Starting point is 00:40:38 but she's still in her army fatigues. They're both American, even though Rose Byrne is British. But the text. Australian. Oh, she's Australian. Oh, she is Australian. Fatigue's, they're both American, even though Rose Brandon is British, but, you know, the text. Australian. Oh, she's Australian. Oh, she is Australian. Wait, I just have so much comp. No, but I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:40:51 No, I think you're right. I think you're right. She's Australian, yes. Yes, you're right. Nice, nice. It's funny that to me, I'm like, well, it's still weirder that she's American and not British, as if it's like more adjacent.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I mean, I guess it kind of is, but anyway. Yeah. Her name is Scarlett and she is watching as a plane of people is being brought into this safe zone. These are British people like returning home and she sees children coming in and she is immediately kind of stressed by this. Apparently there are no children yet in this safe zone
Starting point is 00:41:30 and she's worried about it from a medical perspective. She's like, we don't know how the virus works. Like what if this is a greater risk than adults being here? She just doesn't feel good about it. She wasn't told about this and she doesn't, there's no protocol for children reentering this zone yet and so she's a little stressed by it. And let's just let her say it, she hates kids.
Starting point is 00:41:52 She fucking hates kids. What is fucking kids doing here? It's like when there's kids at the adults only pool and you're like, God fucking damn it. God damn it. I don't want there to be no kids here. They're gonna really ruin the vibe of our quarantine zone. So we see the two kids, this is Tammy and Andy.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I don't know why I was very thrown by there being a Tammy and a Scarlet in this movie. What? Just like they don't go together? No, just kind of like, those names are both kind of surprising choices for me, for like British people. I guess she's American.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Tammy is British. Scarlet is American. I don't know, I don't know. Their names, people have those names for sure. I just feel like in a scope of a script, I would have like selected one of those names for sure. I just feel like in a scope of a script, I would have like selected one of those names. But like you get one. Yeah, they're like kind of similar vibe in names.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I don't know what I'm saying, but. No, no, I completely get it. No, I completely get it. Tammy is telling you something. One of those needs to be Jennifer, you know? And Scarlett is telling you something. It's not a benign name. Like it has baggage.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Both of those names have baggage. Yes. And Scarlett's and Tammy's, you know what I'm talking about. So Tammy and Andy are the two children that have been brought in. I think Tammy and Andy are a weird duo. Yeah, I just like naming your kids Tammy and Andy. You make kids Tammy and Andy keep you to make kids Tammy and Andy It's too much. Yeah, I think the names I mean don't get me started on Doyle It's the oil
Starting point is 00:43:38 Oil for boil over boil So They come in everyone has to like be screened as they're entering the containment zone. Roseburn Scarlet is the one doing the tests and she asks Andy how old he is. He is 12 and she says that makes you the youngest person in Britain. And she notices that he has two different color eyes and says, oh, that's sometimes genetic. Did one of your parents have that?
Starting point is 00:44:08 He says, yes, my mom had that. Just clocking that. There's shots of the streets of Britain all like empty and abandoned, a lot of burning bodies. It's not great out there. We're not feeling awesome, but we're on a path to hopefully a better place. And so after they're checked,
Starting point is 00:44:37 they're brought into the green zone, the safe area. They are told they cannot leave the perimeter because there are still bodies being cleared and while there has been no documented virus, it's still not safe out there. There's wild dogs, rats, there's still a lot of other diseases, so just don't leave the perimeter. You can trust kids to do that. Yeah, kids are good at that. And they take this train into the main center, you know, zone one or whatever, and get off.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And they're like, dad! And their dad is Don. Oh, God. And Don takes them back to the apartment. They ask, why can't they go back to their old house? It's not within the quarantine zone, so they have to stay in this kind of utilitarian little space that's been set up for all the civilian survivors.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And they are like, so now that we're all together, like what happened with mom? He's like, oh yeah. Unavoidable. It was so awful you guys. I watched her die right in front of me. But too far to get to. Not my fault.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I couldn't do anything. I couldn't do anything. They do say, Tammy says, was there nothing you could do? You couldn't do anything? And he's like, I couldn't do anything. Oh, I wish I could have, but I couldn't. Tammy, by the way, is like 17. This is Imogen Poots, another great name. Imogen Poots and Macintosh Muggleton
Starting point is 00:46:25 playing brother and sister. That's so funny, that's so funny. Wait, so it's like a 12 and a 17 year old. Boots and Mugg over here. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Poots and Mugg. We see, again, Scarlett trying to say, like, what is the protocol with these kids?
Starting point is 00:46:43 She's stressed about it. She goes to her supervisor, Idris Elba, American in this. He's British, right? But I mean, he's American in this. It's American in a lot of things. Yeah. Confusing, he could be British, but I guess he has to be American.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yeah, yeah. And we're just like getting little peaks around the city again again and we're seeing Doyle talking through his headset to his little buddy Flynn, who is a helicopter pilot. So we're just establishing their fun little friendship. They clearly have some history. And then we're seeing Andy and Tammy getting settled in, going to bed. And Andy has a nightmare in the night that is pretty scary. It's just of his mom screaming and peeling her face off to having like no face underneath.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Pretty disturbing. And he wakes up screaming and Tammy wakes up and asks him what's wrong and he says, I'm worried that I'm going to forget what mom looks like. It's very sad. And so the next day, she's like, I got a great idea. Let's sneak out of the perimeter and go get a photo of mom. Awesome. Good fucking luck, girl. We, children. If Tammy didn't have baggage before, she's gonna have baggage soon. And it's gonna be all related to her name.
Starting point is 00:48:20 They're gonna be like, Tammy. This Tammy's gonna go down in history. This would not have happened to Jennifer. Jennifer would not have done this. Nope. Or a Sarah or an Anne. Sarah's Anne's, they never do anything like this. They don't do anything like this. They don't do anything. Beth? A Laura? Nope.
Starting point is 00:48:38 A Kate? No, we've had a lot of Kates. I feel like we have a lot of Kates in horror movies. I don't know what I'm thinking of. I'm not thinking of anything specific, but I feel like that of Kates. I think we have a lot of Kates in horror movies. I don't know what I'm thinking of. I'm not thinking of anything specific, but I feel like that's come up. Yeah, probably. So, you know, the city is covered in snipers watching for this sort of thing. And so they are immediately spotted by Doyle. And he just calls it in and says, I see some kids escaping the perimeter. So, someone's gonna be following them presumably, but they find a Vespa and they ride it to their old house
Starting point is 00:49:17 and they're seeming like they're having the time of their freaking lives. I'm so mad at them. You guys know there was a zombie outbreak your mom died like this is insane and like they're rebuilding society and so theoretically you'll be able to go out there eventually and get the fucking photo like you don't need it right now yeah, the priority should be staying safe. These are so fucking stupid. Although I guess in one
Starting point is 00:49:51 thing in their defense is that they have been outside of the country. And so they have seen none of the actual carnage that happened here. I guess, I would presume it would be on the news. But yeah, they haven't had firsthand experience of how bad it was here. And so they're, I guess, a little ignorant. And also it's the same logic that gets teens to drink and drive and do all sorts of,
Starting point is 00:50:13 they can't grasp consequences yet. Think they're gonna live forever, yep. So they make it to their... So sorry to all the teens out there. You guys are good, you're, where do we take you back? You just cause a lot of trouble, that's all I'm saying, You're just a lot of trouble. It's all I'm saying. You just cause a lot of trouble. Just maybe stay in the quarantine zone after the zombie outbreak.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Just like stay just be chill. Just be chill. Just be chill. So they get to their house, they get a picture of their mom and they split up. I guess Tammy goes into her room and Andy goes outside to jump on the trampoline. So fun. And we see a figure of someone in the house behind Andy as he's jumping like watching him on the trampoline. The vibe is not that it's Tammy. Seems like somebody else.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And then he catches a glimpse of it, I think, and is like, Tammy, Tammy, and like runs in and is trying to find her and goes up to the room that he saw someone in, which is like the, it's almost like the attic. And there are food wrappers everywhere and like maggots on it's like someone's been living in here. And he is just like, Tammy, Tammy, where are you?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Really not picking up any context clues until he sees someone like scuttling in the corner. That's clearly not Tammy. You just see the top of someone's head and he finally gets scared, but he's frozen with fear. And this person peeks around the corner and we see one brown eye, one green eye. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And it's his mom. She is alive. Is she infected? Wait, what? Alice, it's Alice. We don't know. She's looking feral at least, but not like bloodthirsty. One of her eyes is bloodshot.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Like it looks like, she doesn't look good. She doesn't look like her normal self, but he is excited to see her nonetheless. And she does hug him and she's like half infected. She's kind of infected, but that's unusual in this world where it's usually you get infected within like 10 seconds or whatever. Well, and she was this thing that happened with her like what? Like 26 weeks ago. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Okay, which is- So we don't know what to make of it. Oh, she's doing the math. It's like seven and a half months. How many? I was gonna say, Henley will be good at knowing weak things because I also have like
Starting point is 00:53:06 no reference point. Seven and a half months? Unless it's a full multiple of four, like 16, I can tell you that's like roughly four months. Six months. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because-
Starting point is 00:53:18 Six months. Because 24 divided by six is four. Six and a half. Because 24 is six times four is 24. Yeah, but four, but it's four weeks and a month. Oh, and it's 26 weeks. 26 weeks, 26 weeks. Okay, six, yes, okay. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Great, yeah, yeah. Six months. Okay, great, okay, great. And then a half, then two more. Yes. Really important that we got to the bottom of that. But yes, it's been long enough that if she was infected, she would have been more obviously infected than this, but she also is certainly not her normal self.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah, it's also been, it's been like long enough that living off maggots would fuck you up, but maybe she's more fucked up than that. Right, we don't know. She doesn't seem like a danger. She does hug him a little hard where we're like- Would you get feral that fast? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:13 How not? I mean, it's also like such trauma. Like it's not just that she's like living off the grid. Like she's seen everybody die. She has been like running for her life in probably multiple situations. So I think it'd probably fuck you up pretty good, yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:54:34 But she's not like a zombie. No. Okay. Man, I did not see this coming. I did not see her coming back. No, I didn't. No, me neither. Very exciting. Me either. And that's gonna suck for Dawn. It's gonna suck.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Don is gonna be so. He's actually. I did everything right. He's got something screaming to do. Man, the only thing worse for safety, wink, wink, wink. The only thing worse for Don than letting his wife die is finding out it didn't work. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And having to explain that to the freaking kids. So just at this moment where they are reunited, a helicopter and a bunch of soldiers like to send on the building because they have been following the kids. And so they take the kids into a little quarantine observation room and they take the mom to the medical center where she is like in a chemical shower, like being sprayed down.
Starting point is 00:55:29 It's really horrible. Just her like naked being sprayed down, which like obviously you would have to do, but it just is, it like really, I don't know, this particular shot was just like very hard to watch. Well, her like human dignity has already been stripped away so much and then to be saved and to have the dignity even more stripped away, it's like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, yeah, it looks pretty miserable. And then she's strapped to a stretcher type thing where Scarlett is now examining her and she tells her I'm sorry that we have to strap you down. It's for our safety and yours because they don't know if she's gonna be infected. So we do wanna probably restrain her till we get some answers, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And she takes a blood sample from her and as she pushes like her sleeve up to get the blood sample, she sees a bite mark on Alice's arm and asks her, have you come into direct contact with the infected and Alice is being very cagey and weird, not acting like a normal person and just kind of wide-eyed staring at her in response. So something's up for sure. And the Don now comes to the observation room
Starting point is 00:56:56 where his kids are, where they have been, they're like behind, you know, a glass, so he can't like go in with them. They probably have to do some amount of quarantine, I guess, until we have answers about Alice because they've been exposed to her. And so they're talking through the glass now and Tammy is yelling, you said you saw her die. And he goes, I didn't use those words exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:22 He's like, I said, I thought, I thought I saw her die. He's really backpedaling, but also doing a very bad job. And then we see back in the medical center, Scarlett looking at the blood sample through a microscope and like immediately confirming she has the virus. Absolutely. There's no question about it, but she's not infected. So it's not that she's immune to it. She's a carrier and she has some amount of, I guess, like natural immunity. And that makes her extremely valuable, obviously.
Starting point is 00:58:05 She could be the key to a vaccine, a cure. She is now the most important person in this country. Oh boy. She's asymptomatic. Yeah, yes. But. But they don't know if it could lay dormant in people or symptoms might develop or. Right or they're probably gonna treat her
Starting point is 00:58:28 like a little freaking lab rat. Also, she's gonna have to return to a husband who left her to die, so that's also complicated. There's gonna be some marriage stuff that's gonna have to be worked out. Try to be a mother to some kids again. Yeah. So that night she is left in this room,
Starting point is 00:58:52 still just like strapped to the stretcher. Like they can't even put her in a different, like locked room. Containment room. They don't. Or she can move around. No, she's still strapped to this thing. And. It's fucked up. Seems like everyone's gone home for the night
Starting point is 00:59:09 in a place with up until this point, constant military presence everywhere. They seem to really have dropped the ball a bit. They've got a good work-life balance. Yeah, I mean, six o'clock. And at night that's me time and I don't need to be containing the virus of the quarantine. We go home and that's the rule.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I gotta watch my shows and unwind. If you want me present next morning. Unwinding is so important in this day and age. With the stress levels we're all facing, yeah, I think I need to shut off at the end of the day. So Don takes this opportunity to sneak in. He has for some reason access to this part of the building. He has a key card that gets him access into here and he sits next to her and is like, oh my god babe, so good to see you.
Starting point is 01:00:09 No, he's like crying and he's apologizing. He's like, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I missed you, I'm so happy that you're alive. And she's just like staring at him in the way that she's kind of been staring at everybody, to be fair. She's not really looking relaxed or normal in any scene. She's kind of just wide-eyed staring at everybody. But then she seems to have some moment of
Starting point is 01:00:34 recognition where she softens a bit. And I think she reaches for his hand or something and he's like, Oh my God, I miss you so much. I love you so much. She's crying. And he goes in for a smooch,ooch on the lips with tongue. Wait, okay, so does he know at this point that she's infected? No, but still, I think it's- He knows they're keeping her strapped in this room. Everybody needs to be communicating more.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I think some mistakes were really made in this. Everybody needs to be communicating more. I think some mistakes were really made in this. Everybody needs to be communicating more with each other about what is happening. Oh boy. And so as we know this virus moves very quickly, he immediately. He's not asymptomatic. He's not one of the lucky few. No, no, because they're not related by blood, because that would be weird. Oh my God. And he, you know, his eyes turn red. It's his screaming and he starts like banging his own head against the glass.
Starting point is 01:01:38 He's like pouring blood. And then he turns back to her and starts just like punching her. She's bleeding and screaming, and then he takes his thumbs and plunges them into her eyes. Holy shit. And kills her. She's dead. Holy shit. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And now someone's noticing and there's sirens going off and someone is, we're seeing Idris Elba I guess on some security camera seeing this and like lock it down code red. So they're not just trying to eat them they're trying to just kill them like that's I mean they caught their rage so it's like they're trying to kill you. Yes. Got it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Jesus. So. Damn. He really fucked everything up. He really fucked up and fucked everything up and he's not done fucking shit up yet if you can believe it. Because now he's the only infected person and he's got to spread this rage virus. Oh no, oh no, he's ruining it for everyone. He, he, he, and they, he like runs into the hallways and there are a few like military personnel. He's just plowing through them.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Even though they're shooting at him, he's able to infect a couple more people pretty quickly. And then it just like, it just spread so fast and so Oh, fuck. The you know, whatever emergency plan is being put into play and people are being evacuated from their rooms down to this like safe holding area. But this has never happened before. I don't think in this they haven't had to test these protocols. And so everyone's just kind of thrown into this room and the power goes out.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And so everyone's like in a complete panic and there are 15,000 people in this colony. And so they're in different zones. So this isn't like all 15,000 people, but it's probably 1000 people being shoved into a room with the doors locked behind them and everyone in. Completely insane. Oh shit. That they determined she had the virus. And then did not tell.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Put like a full security, like. Absolutely like 24-7 constant surveillance of like, a military. Unstrap her for the bag, treat her like a human, but put her in a contained, with so many guards. Ah. Yeah, shocking. Oh, really, so dumb. It's so sad how dumb we are. I mean, it's true.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It's like this this probably would happen. No, that's the thing. That's the thing is that humans are capable of such amazing intelligence, but mostly we're just capable of such extreme stupidity. And yeah, it's true. It's unfortunate. God damn it. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:48 All right. So now we've got a thousand or so people panicking, being like corralled into this big fucking room that doesn't seem that safe. And Tammy and Andy are still locked in this observation room. They are, they can't get out of there. And one of the soldiers, it's like, I'll be right back. Like I'll find a way to like get you out or something. And then he steps out and 10 seconds later comes back like,
Starting point is 01:05:24 ah, like trying to smash the glass to get to them to kill them when bang his head he's got shot in the head and falls to the ground and we see behind him Rose burn scarlet to the rescue and she gets the kids out and is taking them to the whatever little safe area. But it's complete panic and everybody's just chaos and she's trying to yell like, these children are the most important children, their mother, like, she sees, I guess that the that the mom is dead now. And so now the best hope at any sort of vaccine or cure is like, hopefully one of them has the same genetic thing, probably Andy, because they have the same two different color eyes, which I don't think that's how genetics works, but that seems to be the logic that this movie is,
Starting point is 01:06:19 it's assuming that he probably will be the one with the trait passed down, the immunity passed down. So she's trying to get them to safety, but in the madness, Andy is separated and Andy is locked into this room with the thousand other people in complete darkness, everyone panicking while Scarlet and Tammy get out of the building and they're kind of running to find some
Starting point is 01:06:47 other safe area and as Andy is in this room we see a door with like one little chain on it looks like a dinky little chain to try to lock them in and on the other side of it is his dad who very easily busts it open, attacks someone, so now everyone is locked in this room with just this immediate spread of rage virus and everybody's screaming and it is... we're just we're not we don't have a handle on this at all it's just like very immediately gets completely out of control. Any protocol they had did not work and so now people are getting infected left and right and they bust out of this holding area into the streets of the, you know, containment area, but which is just like, looks like a downtown area.
Starting point is 01:07:47 All the snipers are on the tops of the buildings and so they're getting orders like, kill the infected, kill the infected. But it's just a crowd of over a thousand people running and screaming, and some of them are running and screaming trying to escape and some of them are running and screaming trying to kill people.
Starting point is 01:08:04 And so it's very hard to differentiate as people are running who's who and to like get a clear shot at anybody. And so we see Jeremy Renner like, I can't tell who's infected, like I can't. And Idris Elba sees that this is like completely, we've completely lost control of this situation. And so our like
Starting point is 01:08:26 last resort is just we just have to kill everybody. Yeah, it's becomes extermination. And so all the snipers get the order to just kill everybody. Oh my god. And you see all of them like, Jeremy Renner does like kill a few civilians and you see him like being really str- like upset by it and like struggling with this horrible fucking situation. And then he sees through his sight Andy, uh, who is recognizable because he's the only child really in the whole city. And so he starts basically covering Andy, just like killing anyone that's coming too close to Andy as just like something to focus his skills on. And so he's just like focusing on keeping Andy alive. And this lets Andy get into this other building, kind of a store room. And turns out that that's where Scarlett and Tammy have gone in as well. And so there's about
Starting point is 01:09:36 10 people in here hiding and they are, you know, reunited and after a couple minutes Doyle comes in here as well, Jeremy Renner, because he saw the kid get in here and he comes in and him and Rose Byrne have a little moment of like, why did you leave your post? Because they're both disobeying their orders right now because their orders are to kill everybody and then they're obviously like, well, why do you think? So we get on the same page that, okay, we don't want to kill everybody. We want to get the fuck out of here and try to get to safety. And so this group of people with a couple additional strangers that have found their way into this storage room also follow behind Doyle who's like everybody you know get behind me in single file line we're gonna run
Starting point is 01:10:36 and they're running through the streets of London I guess and Doyle still has his headset and he's talking to Flynn, basically asking for updates of like, where can I go? Where's safe? This is fucking crazy. And Flynn is kind of guiding him like go down this street and there's like a safe point over here. If you can get it to here, I can meet you there, I can extract you. There's like a meeting place that now we're trying to get to and he says, how much time do we have to get there? And he says, you have four minutes and they are gonna start fire bombing the streets. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:11:17 So we are fucking running when another sniper starts shooting at them, someone that is obeying orders. But Doyle can tell that this sniper's kind of, obviously like very stressed and nervous and he's not the best shot right now. And so he says they're like hiding behind a wall and he tells one of the guys that's with him, he's like, I need you to run into the
Starting point is 01:11:46 line of fire and zigzag because this guy's going to miss, but I won't. It'll reveal his position and I'll be able to get him. The guy's like, are you crazy? I'm not going to fucking do that, which it would be pretty scary. Andy just runs and does it and runs and zigzags and sure enough the guy misses and Doyle kills him first shot. So we've got that guy out of the way and so now we're trying to get to this meeting spot. And it looks like they're pretty good distance out of like the main area where everybody was. But then the firebombing does begin and it's like really horrifying.
Starting point is 01:12:36 You just see this bird's eye view of essentially the streets like filling with flames, just explosions going down the streets like filling with flames, just explosions going down the streets. And we're seeing people burning alive. We see it hit the medical center. So we see Alice's, I mean, corpse be burned but they are just burning everything. And then it cuts to the command center or control center where there's just
Starting point is 01:13:07 a lot of the higher up military personnel watching all of this on camera and it's just dead silent and everybody looks so upset like it's just devastating. Oh Jesus. And yeah this is the part that was really upsetting because it is also like, I don't want to say this is the right thing to do. I know it's so brutal, but it's like, yeah, when they make the call to kill everyone, it is sort of, I don't know what else you're meant to do. Yeah, I don't know what the alternative is to like have, I mean, they should have had better safety protocols
Starting point is 01:13:47 in place for sure. I feel like I see a lot of mistakes leading up to this point, but like once it's reached this point, there is part of my brain that is kind of like, yeah, I mean, I guess you have to just kill everybody because that's the only way that it's gonna prevent it from like It's everybody ready here or everybody everywhere, right? Right. And so oh a really fucking Horrifying position to be in and everybody looks like they are fucking miserable to have to be in this position
Starting point is 01:14:24 and then fucking miserable to have to be in this position. And then we see that our group of people do make it out before the firebombing reaches them. It's a close call, but know, running because presumably the military will still be coming for them. But they make it to safety for the night and they're able to sleep and wake up the next day and they're in this kind of abandoned carnival area. There's like a merry-go-round and yeah, it just looks, I guess, you know, like the English countryside. And Flynn, the helicopter pilot comes to meet them,
Starting point is 01:15:23 but as he's coming down, like landing the helicopter, he sees that Doyle is with like eight or so other people. And he's like, what the fuck? He didn't know that he was with anybody. And so he's like, I first of all, can't carry all these people. Second of all, who are they? There's no way that there's nowhere for us to take them. They can't come to any like containment zone. And so and but one of the guys is panicking and like grabs onto the bottom of the helicopter to the point where almost looks like he's going to pull it down and like he's like almost causing him to crash. And it's again, just like very stressful where everybody's freaking out, like afraid for their lives. And then we see a line of the infected running across
Starting point is 01:16:16 a hill towards them in the distance. And so the infection, the infected have spread, made it out of the perimeter as well. Yeah. I'm shocked it didn't make it out of Great Britain. The fact that it's this quick, you know what I mean? Like it's like, so fast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I don't like it. No. And so they run, but there's a ton of the infected chasing them and so Doyle calls up to Flynn and is like, Flynn, please, you gotta help us. Flynn is still in the helicopter and Flynn, as they're running away from the zombies, Flynn is flying towards them and does like tilting the helicopter down at an angle and just uses the helicopter blades to chop them all up.
Starting point is 01:17:10 It's very, it's like comical. There's just like body parts flying everywhere. You're kind of like, yeah, hell yeah. You have to be so precise. You have to know like, ha, so. Yeah, that feels like very impressive helicopter maneuvering. Very impressive. And this gives them enough time to get away,
Starting point is 01:17:34 but they are now back in kind of the city in a different part of the city, I guess, and are running down this alleyway when they see a cloud of gas coming towards them and they know that this is a poisonous gas, another line of trying to exterminate everybody. They're trying to run, but I don't think they're going to be able to outrun it. They see a car and they're like, we got to get in the car. And so, but then they're also still being pursued by infected and they make to the car in the nick of time and, uh, roll up all the windows and like put their shirts
Starting point is 01:18:13 over their mouths and are trying to like clog any, uh, gaps in the window. And, um, again, very, very stressful as the infected are banging on the windows but then the car is like enveloped in the gas and so the infected die and they wait until the gas thins out a bit um and then just try to start the car like okay great now we have a car um but it's not starting like, okay, great, now we have a car, but it's not starting. And they think that it needs like a little push. I don't know if this is like because it's a manual car, like it needs some momentum to be able to, I've never driven a manual car. They seem very hard to drive. Wait, so Emily, do you know how to drive a manual?
Starting point is 01:19:06 No. I've been thinking about this recently because everyone in my family knows how to drive a manual car. My dad has his whole life and my- It's cool. It's a cool skill to have. I would like to be able to do it. It comes up so often in my family. Actually, it came up like two days ago. My dad was like, well, you know how to drive stick shift and I was like no to remind you I don't and like I've tried to learn and I had a hard time so I gave up but um I've thought about that where it's like in the apocalypse not in LA but not no not in LA The way that I was taught and failed was in a Dodge Caravan minivan from like the 80s and I don't know if you guys are familiar with what they look like but they're fucking huge and it I
Starting point is 01:19:58 Tried and failed. Yes But it's one of those things where it's like, in an apocalypse, if I had a car and it was stick shift, I would die because I couldn't drive a fucking stick shift. You know, it's one of those stupid, basic things. You know what, man? Probably there's plenty of other ifs that are going to kill you before that. Yeah, like I really doubt the thing that kills you is going to be.
Starting point is 01:20:24 You happen to get yourself into safely a manual transmission car and then you can't drive it and then you die. Like I just honestly, especially these days, it ain't happening. It could be anything. That's not what it's gonna be. Well, the first thing will be that I'll be blind.
Starting point is 01:20:39 You should learn how to like use weapons and like build fires and stuff before you worry about drugs. You should learn how to just sanitize water. I feel like that's the biggest thing. I know. You need to learn how to like potterize wounds. Or make a fire. Just make a fire.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Like, yeah, yeah. Some light first aid. Or know how to like forage non-poisonous plants. And you know what? If it comes down to it. And it's the car thing, you know, egg on my face. But I... I mean, look at you too.
Starting point is 01:21:01 You're right. It's a... comes down to it.... non-poisonous plants. And it's the car thing, you know, egg on my face. But I mean, look at you too. You're right. It's a snowballing way of thought. You go there, what isn't to come? You know, it's... I'm lacking a lot of other important skills that I'm going to need. I mean, the next thing you know you you have cyanide pills in your garage so I just it's you gotta be careful you gotta be careful.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Uh so they think they need a push for the car and I believe them because I don't know I don't know anything about stick shifts. So Doyle gets out and Scarlett is like at the wheel and is like, okay, when you feel it, whatever. Car stuff, car terminology, then you gotta hit the clutch and go. And she's like, okay, okay. And they kind of share this look of knowing. They've had a discussion by now
Starting point is 01:22:12 about how these kids are more important, their lives are more important than Doyle or Scarlett's lives. And so both of them have kind of gotten into that headspace of like, saving these kids is the most important thing. So Doyle gets out, pushes the car, it starts, they're rolling and then immediately a like, fire brigade people with like, what do you call a fire gun? What are those called? Oh, flamethrower. Flamethrower. Flamethrower. People are coming through with flamethrowers and just burning any surviving
Starting point is 01:22:55 people and Doyle gets burned alive. Whoa. That's fucking crazy. Even if you're looking like you're doing something that a human would do you just. And he's dressed in military clothing, so also shocking. But yeah, they're just killing everybody in sight. But the car does start, so they're now flying down the street and still in pursuit by Military personnel, but then they drive the car into a subway station like underground and Then they they get out it's very quiet and dark down there and I
Starting point is 01:23:43 Don't know what their end game is necessarily, but they're just going like deeper down into the station, like going down escalators, but it's again, like completely pitch black. Scarlet has a, uh, like the sniper rifle, which has night vision in the site. And so she is guiding them even though they are in front of her, so Andy and Tammy are in front of her and she's basically telling them where to step and where not to step. She's like going like move to the left,
Starting point is 01:24:11 move to like step to your right, like take a big step now, big step, because all on the ground are so many skeletons and corpses from the first outbreak corpses from the first outbreak and the skeletons are getting like denser and denser until eventually Tammy steps on one and screams and trips and just like tumbles down this hill of skeletons and so they all get separated and And then we're only seeing through, this is like very found footagey feeling because we're only seeing this like night vision
Starting point is 01:24:51 through the gun as she's calling out, Tammy, Andy, where are you, where are you? And then we see a man pop up in the site and just start beating her with the gun. Holy shit. And beats her to death. And who do you guys think it is? Even though it doesn't actually make any sense at all.
Starting point is 01:25:15 No, it's Dawn. I just wanted it to be Killian Murphy, but I guess I didn't because that wouldn't be nice. That doesn't make any sense. So he's infected. It's an infected who's beating her to death. Yeah, And she dies. Yeah. He does beat her to death. So I don't understand like the infected will starve to death because, okay. All right. Fine. I don't understand how Don got there, but sure. Okay, fine. Yeah, we made it out of the perimeter.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I mean, they'd served it as eventually, right? It has been like a day. Right? Yeah, no, he's not gonna starve anytime soon. But yes. But so he kills Scarlet. And then Tammy and Andy are also separated. Tammy finds the gun. And so now she has the night vision. So she's looking for Andy. She sees that Scarlet has died and finds Andy as Dawn also finds Andy. Dawn attacks Andy, tackles him to the ground,
Starting point is 01:26:20 bites him and Tammy shoots her dad, kills him. And Andy immediately runs away from her and is kind of like scrambling and screaming and we're like, is he infected or is he trying to like protect her from himself if he's infected? And she's chasing him being like, Andy stop stop. And he's like, you can't, you can't be near me. Like, gotta get away from me. He's trying to save his sister. And then he trips and falls and she catches up with him and she like kind of pins him down and is like, breathe, breathe. It's okay. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:27:03 And sees that he's been bitten and his eye does the same thing that his mom's did where it kind of like fills with blood, but only one of them does only one of his eyes and then the reaction seems to stop there and he does not get fully infected. And he says, he's crying and he says to her like, Am I one of them? Am I one of them? And she says, No. And they hug and they hold each other up and then like limp down the train tracks to who knows where who know what the who knows what the future holds for them. And then we see actually that they walk to a football field type thing, very overgrown football field.
Starting point is 01:27:59 And Flynn is there. So I guess this was one of the safe points that they had talked about earlier and he's pulls a gun on them and is like where's Doyle and She says it's just us and Flynn looks upset by this but nods and agrees to take them again, don't know where we're going, but They get into the helicopter and fly off and Are looking out the window looking very sad but you know we made it we're alive and cut to black and then 28 days later come back up in the same helicopter. It's looking like something bad happened here. Everything's kind of torn up,
Starting point is 01:28:52 it seems like it's crashed maybe. But there's no bodies in it. And then we pan out from the helicopter and see infected running, kind of hard to tell what's happening. It's very close up shaky cam, but we see like some, there's a lot of infected around and then they break into the daylight and we get a wider shot of we see this row of infected running towards the Eiffel Tower. That's the end of the movie. Not Paris, not Paris! Not Paris!
Starting point is 01:29:32 Sleep love, no! Joel's like, wait, I can speak a little bit of French? Je suis désolée, je ne parle pas le français! Oh, je suis désolée. Oh, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. No, the zombies just stopped. No, very good, very good. No, very good.
Starting point is 01:29:55 The mother. No, very good. Oh my god. Wait, okay, so there hasn't been another movie since, until the one that's coming out. Okay, wow. hasn't been another movie since until the one that's coming out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah really Now I'm really very excited for 28 years later. I'm very excited as well. I feel like It's gonna it's gonna be good. I've got high hopes I got high hopes
Starting point is 01:30:22 That's great Sammy. Thank you. I've been so curious about that movie for so long and now I know. Now you know. Oh, I hope there's no rage virus. Me too. But I hope if we do have it, we're asymptomatic. Oh, no, right, sorry. I hope that I'm asymptomatic. Yep.
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