Too Scary; Didn't Watch - 28 YEARS LATER with Dan Lippert

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

Dongs on iPhones, Teletubbies, AND Ralph Fiennes???? Couldn’t have picked a better film to kick off 2HELL 2CHELLA. Good lad/Zombie expert/Horrorspondent, Dan Lippert joins to tell us all about what the undead penis’s REALLY look like 🤯Video episodes available on our Patreon! Movie & Guest Intro @ 13:00Trivia @ 19:48Recap starts @ 27:45TrailerFollow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Hi everyone. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy here with a very special announcement. We are doing an in-person live show in Los Angeles at Dynasty Typewriter on Wednesday, July 9th at 730 PM. We're going to be recapping Final Destination Bloodlines with special guest Lisa Gilroy. It's going to be so fun. There are going to be some surprise segments and plenty of beta blockers. For us though, bring your own. We're not doctors, so we will not be giving them out at the show.

And if you are not able to join us in person, the show is also available as a live stream and it will be available for a week if you purchase live stream tickets. You can get those tickets now at dynastytypewriter.com. We are thrilled and terrified to see you there. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone.

Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to and it is Hell Jella. I love Hell Jella. First episode. I can't believe it. Oh my freaking God. It's here. I'm so excited. The most beautiful time of the year.

The most beautiful time of the year. The most spiritual, the most transcendent. Yes. All of those things and more. And for those of you who don't know, Hell Chella is our summer series where we cover all new releases for July, August, and September.

And all- 13 weeks, spooky number. 13 spooky weeks. And they will all be available as video episodes on our Patreon, but they'll also be on our regular podcast feed. And then just one other little exciting announcement is that we have a live show coming up very soon

on July 9th, one week from today. If you're listening when this episode comes out. Yep, otherwise do the math. Do the math. Not one week from today, Henley. You're good, you're good, you're good. It's gonna be at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles. And it'll also be available as

a live stream if you're not in LA. Either way, you can get tickets at dynastytypewriter.com, and we hope we see you there. Yeah. Yep. That's all the haunted housekeeping. So I'm going to ask you guys a question. I bet I know what it is. Did anything scary happen to you this week? I'm going to ask you guys a question. I bet I know what it is.

Did anything scary happen to you this week? Okay. First of all, I just need to explain the context in which I'm doing this podcast. So I'm at my parents' house in Maryland. I am in my mom's office, which I have recorded from before, and I say it every time. I forget every time, and then I have to say it again. I feel like I'm barricaded inside a hoarder's house. My mom is not a hoarder.

There is something about this office that is deeply hoarder vibes. I like can't, I think I'll need actual physical assistance to leave the room. Like I can't get out of here by myself, I don't think. I'm literally surrounded by things. There's so many things, it's binders. They're binders and notebooks filled with contents.

Who knows? Who knows? Who knows what this stuff is? Why are there so many, there's so many binders and they're like four printers in here. Who needs that many printers? You got to fill up all those binders. And then they're just like random jugs. Then there's just like jugs with like stuff like you, I don't know if you guys can see. There's a, there's a, there's a magnifying glass.

There's a, there's a bear, bear claw that I think is a backscratcher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a pair of old old timey scissors. And then like and then what's this? Oh, a letter opener. That's a good weapon though. And then yeah, so I'm prepared. I don't want to be too controversial here. But I think those are kind of normal things to be on a desk. No, no, they are. No, they are. But the thing that's not normal is that there's probably about like 100, 100 more of them. No, no, they are. No, they are. But the thing that's not normal is that there's probably about like 100,000 more of them.

100 more. Yes, that is unusual for sure. Anyway, so I am just like, taking a breath. I'm because also right before this, like everything was going great. Everything was smooth, everything was fine. And then about 30 minutes ago, Silas started moaning on the couch and saying that his head hurt. And I went over and I put my hand on him.

He was burning up. Oh my God. Fever through the roof, out of the blue, out of nowhere. And Silas does not like to take medicine. So then we started an intense negotiation around medicine. We're deep in this intense negotiation. When I hear from the other room, my dad being like, oh, oh no.

May took her diaper off and pooped all over the living room. Like she took her diaper off, pooped, and ran around the living room, ran around, got on the couch, got on the carpet, got on her dress, got all over herself. Oh my God. I'm so sorry, but I have to record a podcast right now. So.

Oh my God. Good luck you guys. I have to go. May has started taking her diaper off, like secretly, like clandestine diaper removal, and we don't know when it's gonna happen, and all of a sudden she does it, and then she's gleefully, she was having the time of her goddamn life, you guys. She was giggling, she was laughing,

everyone's reaction was making her so happy. She was like, I mean, that's the point. She was like, I've caused quite a stir in this house. Yeah, look what I can do. Literally. And yeah, so, luckily my parents have four cats, just like someone else I know. So they are not scared of a little,

they have all this cleaning supplies necessary. Anyway, everyone's hard at work in the other rooms dealing with all of the things that just happened. And that was another thing is I had to be like, I'm leaving and also everyone needs to shut the fuck up. Handle this and do it quietly and quietly. I have a podcast to record. So mommy, you gotta go to work.

Shh. Shh. Shh. Oh, that's very funny. So that's what's happening behind me. I love it. I love this context. That's why I have like a full, you know,

scandal sized goblet full of red wine next to me that Tim poured for me. It's like two thirds of a bottle of wine in one glass. She needs it. So that'll just happen like literally in the past 30 minutes. So I'm just decompressing right now. I'm just sure. Sure, understandable.

As you do, yeah. Yeah. Decompressing. Okay, but how are you guys doing? Tell me about you. I am really sorry to bring this up. This is not what we need right Okay, but how are you guys doing? Tell me about you. I am really sorry to bring this up. This is not what we need right now, but I just found out that

there are more microplastics in glass bottles than in plastic bottles. Of course there are. Isn't that just so perfect? That's like a very perfect illustration of what it is like to be alive right now. It's like, oh fuck. How?

Okay, this is unrelated, but it is related to what it is like to be alive. I just saw a billboard just now on my way home from the grocery store for Jamba Juice, sorry, just called Jamba now. And it said, when did smoothies become a social status? Jamba, blended for everyone. We're advertising smoothies for the masses.

That's where we're at as a society, smoothies for the people. It's an Arowan dig. It's an Arowan dig. It's the people that can't afford the $20 Haley Bieber Aero-on smoothie. They can go to Jamba. Not Jamba Juice.

Not Jamba Juice. Jamba. It was one of those moments that made me think like, oh God, oh no. Yeah, like oh no. Wrong timeline. So what are we to do, Sammy? To answer your question, Henley,

I mean, I didn't do a ton of research on it, but it seems like it's from the caps because the glass, the way the glass connects with the lids of glass bottles, it like rubs more and it's specifically in beer is the highest. So you know how the like beer can or beer bottle top has that like, it does seem like just a thin layer

of plastic underneath the like cap. Aluminum thing, yeah. the like, aluminum thing. Yeah. The thing around the rim. Yeah. So that like gets, how does that have more than a whole plastic bottle? I don't know. It just leaches easier, I suppose. I think this is, and I, I need to, I need to come up with more examples, but that's a perfect, I think that's a perfect example of like the amount of cognitive dissonance

we're forced to like deal with in our day to day life. Being forced to know that the plastic lining and an aluminum top on a glass beer bottle is more microplastics than a plastic fucking bottle. It's crazy. It's like, my human brain has too much plastic inside of it. Yeah, to like process that information. I know, it's the kind of thing that you're just like, well, well, well, fuck it forever.

I can't really like, I just can't. What, what, you know, do you know? I do. So yeah, well. So sorry to bring that, sorry to bring that to the table. Happy El Chella folks, we're really in it now. That it is. Just a scary and frustrating thing to know.

What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Yeah, Emily, what about you? Well, okay. So we have to take our cats to the vet a lot because they're all old. And you have four of them. And we have four of them.

But so this, I'm gonna tell a story of a thing that happened not even to me, but to Joel. Joel took Birdie to the vet the other day. She's fine. But he took Birdie to the vet and he was waiting in the waiting room and the nurse, nurse of a veterinary office, I don't know what you call them, but nurse, nurse, veterinarian, comes out and, I don't know what you call them, but nurse, nurse,

veterinary, comes out and is walking around the room and she's saying, Oh no, like who here belongs to this cat? No, she's calling out, she's calling out to bring them into the doctor's office and she's saying, be Roy, be Roy, be Roy. And Joel's like, well, that's not me, that's not my cat. And finally she comes up to him and she says,

are you Joel? And he says, yes. And she says, what's your cat's name? And he says, Birdie. And she realizes that the D that someone had written looked like an O. So she was saying B-Roy, Birdie. And she's like, are you okay?

I'm gonna show you this. And I have never laughed harder in my life at anything other than somebody calling Birdie B'Roy. I mean, you have to call her B'Roy now. We do. The ideals of someone naming their cat B-I-R-O-I-E B'Roy. It's a family name. The degree to which this has absolutely broken my brain.

This happened on Thursday every day since. I think B-Roy in my head and start laughing so hard I cry and like all of our friends are comedians. We know the funniest people on earth, nothing ever has or will be funnier to me than B-Roy. Yeah. B-Roy. Yeah. B-Roy. B-Roy.

Wow, that's. And also someone just being like, B-Roy? Is B-Roy here? B-Roy. B-Roy. B-Roy. B-Roy. I can't handle it.

It's so funny to me. Oh my God. Do you think of Verde as Be Roy now? I do, I'm like, she, it kinda is Be Roy. Anytime she does something like kinda weird or gross in the last couple days, it'll be like, ah, Be Roy. It's Be Roy. It kinda sounds like big boy.

Big boy, big boy. B-I-R-O-I-E is really funny. Anyway. We're getting to such a weird place with names though, that like that would be a name. Maybe somebody out there is listening and they think it's a gorgeous name and they'll name their child B-Roy and power to you.

Yeah. Like 10 years from now, they're gonna be like, there are three B-Roy's in my kindergarten class. Unique. You can't name our son B-Roy, there's too many B-Roy's. Axel has three B-Roy's in my kindergarten class. Me. I can't name our son B-Roy. There's too many B-Roy's. Axel has three B-Roy's in his class. B-Roy H, B-Roy L, and B-Roy W. Anyway, I feel broken, but oh, what can you do?

Wow, yeah, I'm very happy to know that story though. Me too. Yeah, me too. Happy to pass it along. And I'm also very happy because today we are here on this first day of Helcella to talk about a new movie called 28 Years Later in theaters now. It is directed by Danny Boyle, written by Alex Garland, starring Alfie Williams, Jodie Comer, Aaron Taylor Johnson, and Ray Fiennes.

And we have a guest with us today. He was with us when it all began on 28 Days Later. And this is his third time back, so he is now officially a horror-spondent. So just like a celebratory full circle. Oh, what a day. Dan Lippert, welcome back. Hi Dan.

Dan looking great as ever, exactly the same. Yeah, Dan, it's good to see you again. Thank you for having me. This was exactly how, yeah, I remember you. Just kidding. There he is. There he is. Just kidding.

Wow, wow, hi, Dan. For those who have seen the movie, that was my impression of one of the alphas. Yep, yep. It was a visual impression. And it was spot on. Really making the most of this video episode format. Well, other than what just happened, Dan, did anything scary happen to you this week?

I, let's see, did anything scary happen to me this week? You know, I finally got over something scary that's been happening, hopefully. Oh, okay. I'm, I'm on like, I'm going into, I was going into the second month of, uh, heart palpitations or some sort of anxiety caused heart pro like I, I could, I was short of breath all the time. My heart was like pounding out of my chest. And so I finally did it.

I gave up coffee and alcohol because Wow. Whoa. Because those are two stimulants and I started myself back on Zoloft and all of those together have so far lessened my heart problem. So my scary thing for now is gone away. Wow, Dan. Yeah, that is scary. But a new scary thing,

which is no coffee and no alcohol. That's the scariest thing of all, is having to order matcha. Oh, I love matcha, Dan. A true horror, do you? I love matcha. And I've also started having matcha more often because of heartburn. Yeah, yeah.

I just need, I need to pay someone to hand me something. Yes. Right. Of course. I need an iced drink that someone gives me once a day. Yes. And I wish I didn't, but I truly do. Yeah. So that is the horror going forward.

I did, I was, I got a matcha right near you today, Emily. Where'd you get it? Bodega Park. Bodega Park has a great matcha. Better than their coffee, I would argue. Yeah, really good matcha there. How do you guys drink your matchas? Is it an iced matcha, hot matcha?

What are we doing for the matcha order? I mean, I'll do both, but I prefer an iced matcha? Is it an ice matcha, hot matcha? What are we doing for the matcha order? I mean, I'll do both, but I prefer an iced matcha. Do you do like a matcha latte? I just haven't figured out how to drink matcha in a way that I enjoy actually drinking it. I have done it just straight up iced matcha and that is good, but I prefer a latte because I like the green. I learned more recently than I'm willing to admit that a latte is mostly, you're just drinking milk. That's a lot of milk.

You're just being like, can I have my big cup of milk please? Yeah, put a shot of espresso in a big cup of milk. Yeah, when I saw them actually pour latte and there was milk to the top and I thought it was a mistake and that's truly all it is. So yeah, the matcha. Excuse me, too much milk.

Excuse me. All the way up with the stuff that's not milk and then a little milk at the end. Oh, so you want a coffee with milk in it. That's what I like. I don't like too much milk. But yeah, I'm just on the matcha kick. So Emily, I'm gonna need some advice on this.

This is the first couple I've had. Will do. Well, you've already nailed a great spot for it, but we could talk. Los Angeles is a great city for matcha. We got a lot of good matcha options here, Dan, so. One of the many beautiful things about this city. I know, it's just so good.

It's so good to live here. Keep matcha in LA. Enough of this matcha moving to other cities. I've gotten plenty of matchas in New York, but they're always like iced lavender honey, honeysuckle. Yeah, they do add a lot of weird stuff to matcha. Cinnamon matcha. Yeah, they tend to.

Some places you go, they've got them like pre-sweetened, which I also don't want because it's, I don't want to have a bunch of sugar. That's not the point, you know? But. It's kind of how you know the original thing sucks. Right. Is that they're like, well, we're trying our best

to make it better for you. No one could possibly want it without sugar. Yeah. I disagree, Dan. I think they did. You're gonna have to, but I'm looking it up. I'm like, I'm on Reddit and I'm like, what are the good matchas? And they're like, this, it's $50 for a thing of matcha at home. And you need like a powder.

You need like a bowl and like a brush. And this fancy little whisk thing. You need a whisk. I need a brush? It's like a- You need a brush. A little whisk. A brush whisk. To like stir it in. What am I brushing? It's a meditative practice. It's gonna help with your heart palpitations. I hope so. It actually might.

I hope so. It's the journey, not the destination type of thing. Yeah, I'll be just like perfect days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, straight perfect days. Wow, I meant to look up the date of this episode. My other scary thing currently is the passage of time. Here we were for 28 days later. So young. My other scary thing currently is the passage of time. Here we were for 28 days later.

So young. Now we're at 28 years later. There was no COVID. It was pre-COVID, yeah. We were together in my previous apartment. Wow. I know, I wonder what that was. And now we're this.

I'm not being facetious. I'm not being facetious at all. You all aged very well. Thank you, Dan. Oh, thank you, Dan and Sam. So all aged very well. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Dan and Sam. So did you. Well, thank you. How tall are you, Dan? Because you're really out-talling us in this photo.

Out-talling us. Yes, I am six foot seven. So I might be two of you on top of each other. I don't think that's possible. Imagine if it were. Also based on this photo. Because people always think that I'm really tall in all the photos we post. And so I'm really happy that we have this visual cause it's like, to send people when they say that. Tall is relative, honestly. Yeah.

Yeah. So I'm bringing our, I'm bringing our average down. So I make you look tall. Can you believe how, how well you've done with this podcast? Dan, no. Congratulations. Thank you, Dan. And you know, the 28 days later is like, I think a pretty unanimous favorite

episode, like every bit it's a great episode. Yeah. Everybody loves it. Including of ours. It's one that I, if people ask a good like episode to start with, this is 28 days later. I'm flattered. Yeah. I'm looking it up.

You tweeted about this episode coming out on October 26th, 2019. October 16th, 2019. Wow. Lots happened. Oh boy. And here we are. And here we are 28 years later. 28 years later. 28 years later.

28 years. 28 years later has an 89% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 76 on Metacritic and a 7.2 on IMDB. Budget was 60 million. At the time we're recording this, because we're recording it a little early, I think it's only been out for three days and it's already made 60 million.

It made it, oh, made its money back opening weekend. This is of course the third film in this series. Is it also the beginning of a trilogy? Pot? Yes, no? There's definitely gonna be more and we'll talk about that at the end. As I said, I was like, but it's the third, which is the end of a trilogy. So I got really self-conscious that I would, but I think I saw a new thing that are like

trying to make this the beginning of like a new thing. Right. It does have a bit of a like cliffhanger ending. So I would presume they're planning something, but. And it's been Danny Boyle and Alex Garland the whole time. Like it's been the same or no. Danny Boyle did not was not directing the second one, but both Danny Boyle and Alex Garland were producers on the on the on 28 weeks later.

But this is them returning to writing and directing. And Killian Murphy was originally going to like rumored to be in it, but he is unfortunately not in it He is a producer on it and you know, hopefully he will get we'll get him back Yeah, be in it at some point if there's more This movie was also primarily shot on an iPhone 15 What which makes? Like my makes.

Oh, grandma's mad. It's like it almost feels rude. Well, it's just like I'm like, you do that for like a stunt in a way, in order to prove something about the iPhone with the vibe of the first. Like they have almost found footagey vibes and 28 days later it has a very low-fi. So I feel like it kind of works, although it still looks good.

It's just funny to me to imagine a full movie set with all the people and then it's an iPhone 15 that's the camera. It's like the huge rig for a camera and at the end is a, it's just a little iPhone. It is really funny. I think there are videos or photos of them on set with it and, uh, feel like there were multiple iPhones, if that makes it better or worse. Yeah, they use, they use a rig for certain shots, usually zombie kills and zombie attacks, where you're

seeing the same thing happen and it's flashing between the same thing three times. Yeah, that's cool. And they shot that on a halo of iPhones. Yes. So that you would see the same thing happen from three different angles, all on the same shot instead of reshooting it with like four different setups or whatever. I mean, that's cool because that's where it's good that the iPhone is small.

That's where it's good. No, that's where it's good. That's where it gets good. Cause you can get them really close together. It's a very beautiful movie. It looks great. Those shots are really cool. And I was thinking in my head, how did they do that?

And now I know. iPhone. And this movie has like one of the best trailers ever so should we watch it? I've never seen this trailer. It's spooky. Let's watch it. Let's watch it. 11, 5, 9 and 20 miles today for 11, 17, 32 the day before. Boots, boots, boots, boots, moving up and down again. There's no discharge in the war. Don't, don't, don't, don't look at what's in front of you. Boots, boots, boost, boost, boost. Moving up and down again.

Men, men, men, men. Men go mad with watching them. There's no discharge in the war. There's no discharge in the war. There's no discharge in the war. There's no discharge in the war. There's no discharge in the war. There's no discharge in the war.

There's no discharge in the war. If your eyes drop, they will get the top of you. Move, move, move, move, moving up and down again. There's no discharge in the wall. Rise, rise, rise, rise, the things are something different. Oh, rise, rise, rise, people going through the gate. Most, most, most, most, warming up and down again. And no discharge in the war. Seven, six, 11, five, four, 17, 32, the day before.

Whoa. I've never been more excited to hear about a movie before. That is such a good trailer. Such a good trailer, oh my God. What is that audio? I have a little trivia about that. So it says the trailer features a distinctive recording of the poem Boots by Rudyard Kipling,

read by actor Taylor Holmes in 1915. The poem's repetitive rhythm imagines the march of British soldiers during the Boer War. And this recording of the poem is used by the US military to simulate the psychological distress of being held captive. What the actual fuck? Some extra fun trivia about that. That poem is in the movie, that reading of it, and they didn't have anything for those parts. It plays over some montage-y kind of scenes. And the trailer editor used it in the trailer and they were like, Oh,

that's going in the movie now. Which is to me the coolest thing that could happen if your job is a trailer. Yes. That's, that's awesome. Yeah. I mean, it's so effectively creepy and perfect. And, um, and yeah, that, that one shot people did think it was Killian Murphy.

And I read that Danny Boyle showed his girlfriend the trailer before it was like finalized. And she was like, people are gonna think that's Killian Murphy. And he was like, no, they won't. Like obviously they're not going to. And- Believe women.

Trust women. Trust women. Trust them. I still think she was being hysterical. Lock her up. Yeah, that was a very effective trailer. You're right. And I'm, I'm like thrilled. That was the first time I saw it. I've seen it.

So, wow, I'm really excited to hear about this movie now. These movies are so good. And Alex Garland is such a good writer and Danny Boyle is such a good director. It's like such an amazing combination. I'm really thrilled. The movie's really good. Yeah, I'm like I'm always makes me happy when something like this happens, where like

they came back together. There's so much hype for this, like, and to be like, oh yeah, and then they nailed it. Like that is, that's so satisfying. That makes me happy. And then I wasn't thinking for even, I was not thinking for one second about what Sammy's background was until seeing that trailer. And now I have a little bit of an idea about what that is.

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Teletubbies theme song first, and then you see the Teletubbies and then you reveal the kids watching it. And then you kind of hear the terror outside that's in the trailer. And pretty soon the, something is in the house and people are screaming and there's like yelling and it gets something gets into the room and you just see blood splattering on the TV implicated implying that not just the parents but the kids have died. There is one long haired blonde kid who makes it out and escapes the house where they're all holed up and runs to into a church and he sees a man standing there kind of arms up or maybe he's praying.

We find out it's the kid's dad. A little too close to home for Henley, the priest is this kid's dad. Unfortunately, also I see on the zoom, I'm on my husband's computer and it says I'm Rev Tim Hamlin and that is like technically his name, Reverend Tim Hamlin. I thought that was a bit from like a past episode. No, that's just Henley's husband. I'm on his work computer. Once for a wedding, I signed up, you could just like click in the RSVP, like Mr. or Mrs.

Doctor. And I just put the reverend and the bride's dad thought that was so funny. She put it on my like well table card and the whole night he was talking to me about it. He said something about it in his speech and it was like, I did not want this much attention for my little bit here. Kind of the main takeaway from the whole wedding. Yeah, it definitely was. Became the reverend show.

No, they're happily married. But so the dad is welcoming the chaos as kind of a judgment day. The apocalypse. Don't worry, Tim wouldn't do that. Okay, God, I'm going to have to say Don't worry, Tim wouldn't do that. Okay, God, I'm gonna have to say that so much. He wouldn't do that. No. It's not like-

Yeah, let us know where this is like your life and where it's not. What things he wouldn't do. Yeah, yeah, yes. Because there's a couple things about to happen that I think he would do, so you can tell me if we're wrong. Okay.

Okay. And so he hides his son, the long, white haired boy, blonde boy. He hides his son, the long white, white haired boy, blonde boy. The long white boy. Or it's Legolas actually. Yeah. I keep thinking of Legolas like hopping on his horse with his bow and arrow. Do you know who Jimmy Savile is? No.

Okay. Well that's going to become a little more relevant later more relevant later. But the boy has long blonde hair. The dad hides the boy, hands him across, and welcomes as the door gets kicked in by the rage zombies that you might remember from the first 28 days later, who are not like the zombies we've known historically. They're like fast and they're like twitchy

and they are angry. And so the dad stands up kind of Christ-like, welcomes the zombies and the kid is hidden under a grate underground as they like stomp over him and rip the dad apart. The dad for sure dies while the kid can kind of see what's happening. And oh, the other thing that is he, oh, you said that. He gives him like a big cross necklace. He gives him a cross necklace. So we know that's gonna come back. And we know the kid's name is Jimmy

because the mom has been called him Jimmy as well. So the kid as the dad is being ripped apart, like the dad's like laughing joyfully, even as he's turning into the rage zombie, he's still like enjoying it in a way that we haven't really seen these zombies do before. And the son is hiding, uh, saying, why have you forsaken me? I think to his dad. And eventually the sun escapes, runs away, and as he's running, you see the cross upside down and we kind of edit in on the upside down cross to black. So 28 days later, 28 weeks later, 28 years later. And then we are in the movie's present time.

It does give us a little lower third at some point, letting us know we're in the Scottish Highlands. Which we'll also learn from the wonderful accents that we're hearing. Yes, really. That's what I like. So does the whole movie take place there? Yeah. So right now we get some text that lets us know basically in the 28 years since the rage

virus they've been able to contain it entirely to the UK, the islands, but anyone that was there is like left to fend for themselves. So they're, they're in permanent quarantine and the rest of the world is just kind of going on as normal. Yeah, no way in fucking hell would that happen? Like someone would break that quarantine. Don't you think? Don't you think somehow that one was patrolled? They say that they're like, there's under constant patrol by like, the Navy or something. And but yeah, no, it's, it's pretty crazy. And it's not, it's not like millions of people are left. It's like dozens to maybe hundreds. Yeah.

So it's not many that could escape. Most died, yeah. Or became infected. Yeah, I mean, or are zombies. Yeah. Yeah. So now we are in the Scottish Highlands. I don't think this really matters,

but just the trivia is they kind of retconned. 28 weeks later implied that the rage virus hit Europe. Mm-hmm. And so the movie's kind of going back and saying we're not dealing with it getting like overblown. We're trying to- Yeah, they nipped that in the bud. Okay. When it got to Paris.

So we're in a house. Aaron Taylor Johnson is a beautiful bearded man. Yeah. Making a beautiful breakfast. Mm. Eric Johnson is a beautiful bearded man making a beautiful breakfast. Bacon and eggs. I think there's matcha. He's got his little brush. It's like lavender, he's doing lavender matcha.

It's meditative. Panty suckle. He's scrolling his phone, he's looking for a Breville espresso machine. Eric Taylor Johnson, whose character name is, I don't, I'm bad with names. for a Breville espresso machine. Eric Taylor Johnson, whose character name is, I don't, I'm bad with names. Jamie. There's a lot of J names.

Not to be confused with Jimmy. And Killian Murphy's name in the first movie, I believe is Jim. Is Jim, yeah. So we're dealing with a lot of Js. We're a little Jimmy and Jamie. His son is Spike. And there's a, in their conversation,

we kind of, it's, uh, implied that the, the, the bacon is special today and that the son needs a little extra for whatever's about to happen. He offers the dad a slice of bacon. The dad is like, uh, Oh, I already had a piece. The son makes a joke about how he knows the dad is lying. Um, and the son hides the bacon. And then there's like a really scary s- scream, rage-like scream from a woman. She knocks a bunch of stuff off of a.

Nightstand. Bedside nightstand. Yeah. Um, and Aaron Taylor Johnson goes up to li- we kind of start to realize through context that she is maybe his wife, maybe the kid's mom, Aaron Seller Johnson goes upstairs before he goes up. He does the old, the kid looks in the reflection and sees his dad stopping at the staircase and going like, Yeah.

Psyching himself up. Yeah. Has a scene with his presumably wife, uh, Hila played by Jodie Comer. And we learned that she has some sort of thing, headache, car, like a, a cute or a problem that is making her like upset and angry and she is also forgetful. But she's not like a zombie. She's not, she just has some like illness that we're not sure what it is that yeah she's like clearly in pain and distressed and has like moments of lucidity but they're telling she's asking like is spike going to school why is spike at school yet and. to not be remembering exactly what's going on. Yeah, and Jamie tells her, he says like,

we went through this, I told you, we're taking Spike out today to the mainland and- If you're gonna do the lines, you might wanna do the Scottish accents. You might wanna. You might wanna, no, no problem. We're gonna take Spike to the mainland. Nice.

All of these actors are British though, right? But they're like, you're gonna be Scottish? Yes. They do that sometimes. I just got out of curiosity. Yeah. Jodie Comer is, I think is, yeah, I think she's British. She is British, but she's like Northern British.

Her accent is like not super far from this. I don't have enough of a discerning ear to be able to fully differentiate. But we know from the bike riders and killing Eve that she's got a way with the voice. Yeah. She's got an ear. She can do it all. She can do it all.

Really down. She's really incredible. Isla freaks out at this, calls him a baby killer. Well, she keeps calling him a cunt. Cunt, cunt. She's really screaming cunt and calling him a baby killer. He's too young. He's just a baby. He's 12, we learn. But this seems like some sort of rite of passage that their first time going to the mainland for, I don't know, hunting, learning your skills of survival or whatnot.

And then- Cunt. Oh, and then, so she has this like episode and then kind of calms down and then, uh, so she has this like episode and then, uh, kind of calms down and immediately says like, where's Spike? Why isn't Spike in school yet? And Spike says, I am, Spike says, I'm going, I'm going to school right now. And she's like, oh, good.

You're so good. So, and then he gives her the bacon. And then we see them going through the town and we start to get an impression of this town as like a 1950s UK style vibe. They've kind of decided to like regress to that society. Through the movie, like they show imagery that makes it look like it's like they've gone pretty, it doesn't overtly do this, but pretty like men now are the hunters again. And women are

like, they do the sewing and the like housework. So they walked through and everyone's like kind of cheering for Spike. This is clearly like a big event happening. A couple furtive looks from a couple other 12 year old girls. Maybe this is kind of exciting to them that he's becoming a man. A little implication of what masculinity means to these people. So they get to the gate and we get the impression of like how this is fortified.

There's people guarding the gate. There's a woman who seems like an elder and she's like, Spike, you know the rules. Anyone can leave, but no one can come get you. Like you can leave, but no one can. There's no rescue missions. Yeah. Also, it's like a pretty, they're on a pretty small island, like right off the

coast of presumably the Scottish Highlands. And so she points to, she's like, the reason you can't be rescued is, and she points to a bunch of like crosses for dead people. And she's like, these are all the people who died trying to rescue somebody. So they make him say he agrees to go. He like looks at his dad. He's like, yes, I'm willing to do this. They opened it up and they start crossing the land bridge.

Yeah, the causeway. Towards the causeway. And so as this is happening, not Jimmy, the other J name. Jamie. Jamie asked Spike, like, so what's going on here? He's like making him kind of make sure he knows how it all works. And so we get the information that the tide is only out for four hours. So it goes up and covers the land bridge.

And that's why generally they're protected. They have to be back in four hours. So it goes up and covers the land bridge. And that's why generally they're protected. They'd be back in four hours. And so as they're doing this, we're starting to hear Booth's, the Rudyard Kipling poem, and it's intercutting it with war footage from like. World War I, World War II, stuff they're doing on the island, kids kind of like preparing for war on the island juxtaposing, um, those kinds of things they get out there. And the first major thing that happens is they come across a new type, uh, that

we haven't seen yet of zombie, which are these, they call them crawlers. Something like that. Yeah. That sounds right. Basically crawlers and they are big gray, um, uh, robust men, uh, totally naked, uh, very funny looking, and they're just kind of crawling really slow. Uh, there's one and he's like eating worm, looking for worms to eat out of the ground. Yeah.

Like their skin looks all nasty, like almost like they have been like soaking underwater, their skin like seems like it's kind of falling off there. Yeah. It's a little, it's like a Baron Harkin and like was left out to rot. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. And so it's like, here's,'s this year to be your first kill. Uh, yeah, these are, this is an easy kill.

They move slow. Um, they generally don't hunt people, but that doesn't mean they're not dangerous. Um, and so, uh, they have like, uh, all these quivers, they have a bow and arrow. Um, and so spike pulls out the bow and arrow kind of aims it kind of nervous. His dad's talking him through it. And then, uh, we see crawling up behind the dad is another one of these. And so that's nearing. Spike is like nervous.

He's shaky, gets his breath, gets the arrow, kills the first one. Uh, it screams. And then the second one, does it scream or does it attack? I think kind of both. It's like, just like a like a startling moment where they've discovered at the last second. I think maybe even another one pops up somewhere and it's like a moment of, oh God, there's more than we realized, but it's the slow, easy ones. And so they're able to still kill them and they handle it pretty well. Spike does pretty well under pressure in this moment.

And so it's, phew, okay, we did it. Okay, so at least Spike is doing this with his dad. Like he's not totally alone, right? Yes, they're together. Okay, all right. That does help a little bit. I was unclear about that. I thought they were just like letting him go off.

No. No, no. He's with his dad. Okay. Okay. So they're together. Whenever he does something well, his dad goes, good lad. Good lad. Good lad. Good lad. So dad's kind of stoked. Again, we're getting this kind of impression of like,

your dad is rewarding you for being good at this. This is exciting. This is what makes you a man, even though we're kind of seeing that Spikes seems to be more of a sensitive boy. Then I think they see, oh, they go into the- I think they go to the cottage first. And Jamie says something like, people will have rated this hundreds of times,

but it's always worth checking for supplies because you never know. And so they go into this abandoned cottage, which outside says like something carved into it, like beware Jimmy. Don't come in here. Yeah, it says Jimmy on it. Like literally says his name.

Yeah, like beware. Not his name, another Jamie. Yeah, other Jamie. Right, right, it's confusing. And he's like, me? Oh, I'm Jamie. I'm Jamie, oh, I forgot I'm Jamie. And then they talk about it for like seven-ish minutes. I have too much plastic in my brain

to keep Jamie and Jimmy and Jim apart from each other. That's me in the audience as well. There's stuff with the names that's relatively important to understanding the end of the movie that fully went over my head until it was explained to me. I'll call him out, because I was catching him. Nice, brag. So.

So. Not me, I knew it all. I'll say at the end why I knew, because there's a reason, and it's not because I'm really smart. It is. But you smart. It is smart. But you are. Obviously smarter than me. Obviously.

You don't think you're really smart because you're smarter than Dan. Smarter than me. I have no movie literacy. So they go through the cottage, Spike finds some silverware, he's like this, and his dad's like, no, we have plenty of that. I guess this isn't super important, but a thing I missed earlier is there's a point where people are going through supply closets on the island that they all live on. And there's a sign that's like, take only what you need. Supplies are low.

Something like that. Yeah. So then they, there is a noise. First we see a crow. It's a jump scare on a crow. And then they go into a room and see a man hanging upside down with a bag over his head and he has Jimmy carved into his chest and tummy. What?

And the tummy, not the tummy. And he's kind of raging a little bit. Uh, so we fight like Jamie explains the spike. Um, he's, he's been bitten or he's been turned. And Spike's like, why is he here? And he's like, maybe punishment, maybe to warn others, who knows? But you have to kill him. And so big kind of scary, fast cutting build of Spike kind of being too scared to kill him. The thing is wriggling. The ropes that are holding him are like kind of creepy.

So this is like a recent thing. It's like coming out of its hands. Like he's been like only there for a short period of time. I don't know. Who knows, when you're turned, you can live, like, I think we learned from the first one that you can live for 28 days when you're turned, so, without eating. Yeah. Yikes, that's a tough one.

And he has like a plastic bag tied around his head that's like filled with blood, because he's upside down, so he's just been like, eww, collecting blood. It's really upsetting. It's an upsetting image for a young boy to see. And Spike tries to look away, and his dad is like, no, you have to see this, and you have to kill him now.

Yeah, it's like each kill gets you more comfortable. It gets easier. Yeah. Doing a lot of it easier. So, uh, spike can't do it. The body falls down, rages, starts attacking dad kills it. Spike feels bad. Not a good lad today. Not good.

Bad lad. Bad lad. Actually bad lad. Bad lad. I think spike is like wanting to go home now and Jamie's like, oh, we're not done yet. And so they go like back out into the woods. We're not done yet. Let's keep going.

We're just getting started. Come on, Spike. And this whole time you're getting like these just incredible beautiful shots of like the highlands. Uh, and it's also just like very eerie and upsetting and empty. Like, well, while it's happening with like random little sounds happening, but it's got that Alex Garland kind of like annihilation, the overgrown, like the city has become overgrown again by nature is taking over. Very lush in a scary way.

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And then they see some more approaching and then they see one that basically it's did what I was doing at the beginning of this. It looks like Jason Momoa. They're all naked. And the big, this one is hanging mighty dong. You see full frontal in this. Oh yeah. I haven't seen 20 weeks later, if I'm being totally honest, but we got to the first movie starts with full frontal of Killian Murphy.

Yes, that's right. What about that? Yeah. And this one has a lot of naked zombies. And I mean, it makes sense that they'd be naked at this point. Yeah. So all of the zombies. It actually makes perfect sense. It actually makes perfect sense. Show me the dongs. They're all naked and the extras in this movie, like just, it must've been crazy to be an extra in this movie, one of the zombies. Cause been crazy to be an extra in this movie, one of the zombies, because you have to just be naked. Like you're having a coffee with your dong hanging out.

And you have to be moving in this really creepy way. Yeah, which step of the audition process are you fully naked? Right. The first one, they're like, just come in loose clothes. Oh. Let us just see the outline. But also, I think right before they see them, they like see a deer in the woods that has

been like brutally torn apart and eaten. And they're like, oh, there was some here of the faster kind because the slow ones don't really do this. And then they look up and see a deer head with the spine still attached to it, hung in tree branches, predator style. And Jamie gets a look of like, oh shit. And he says, that wasn't, this is an alpha,

like an alpha did that. And we don't know what that means, but it doesn't sound good. And then we see this guy with a huge tongue. The alpha, if you have the biggest penis is the alpha in zombie culture. Are these all the categories? Is this like, it's like the rage ones,

the crawlers, the alpha. Are there other categories of zombies? That's, I believe all the ones we made in this movie. Okay, all right. Other than the the zombies that humans turn into when they are at their worst. Wow. Yeah. That's the bigger theme, I think, in most of these films. Yeah. So there's an implication also with like he kind of flashes.

Jamie does to this head being ripped off and put up there by one of these alphas. You kind of like see it intercut in a quick edit. And so there's the implication of like, this feels a little more planned or something. It feels like a little more like unified or why would they put the head up there? You kind of feel like, oh shit, they're getting smarter or something. So then we're at the field, the alpha kind of yells and all the zombies. How do they see them? Do they just see them and there's like a stare down?

I think once they see the deer head, they're like, dad is like, okay, Ty, we should go back now. And they start, I think they just run into kind of an open field. Towards back towards the causeway and on the hill above them is where the zombies are and so they're just, they're just out in the open. So I think they just see them easily. And the sound, I don't know how well you remember it or if you've seen this, but it's like a so you start getting all of that and, uh, Jamie's like fucking run.

Uh, so they're running and they've clearly got some sort of like system here where the dad is like, okay, defensive. They'll be the running, the dad will be like defensive and they'll turn and the dad will shoot a few and spike is scared and he can't hit them. Uh, and the dad's like the heart, uh, was the heart of the head, the heart of the head, the heart of the head, uh, for kill shots. So he's missing. They're like coming and coming.

Oh, so scary. Turn, kill a couple, go turn, kill a couple. They go back into the cottage and get chased up the stairs and, uh, Jamie's like killing them as they're coming up the stairs and around it. This is where we start seeing on the kills, the, the, uh, halo camera shots. So it's like these like quick kind of very cool shots. It's really cool. Yeah.

It's like a slow motion almost or like freeze frame 360 thing where you just, yeah, see them getting arrows shot through their heads and looks crazy. Kind of like those, um, red carpet things that they do with celebrities. Exactly. The zombies all stop and pose. In slow motion, they're whipping their hair around. The zombies all have long, beautiful hair. And so then they're trying to get into the attic of this cottage.

Spike can't get up. He like tries and falls. One of them is getting to them. It's like a stressful moment. There's one left, finally gets it, cut. We're in the attic. Yeah, they're like, they climb up into the attic so that the zombies can't like run up the stairs to where they're like

doing like a quick like give it to them a boost and but they're right there and then they finally get up into the attic. Okay. Okay. I have I have heartburn now. It's stressful. Might just be the red wine. I've well I've I've drunk half the goblet. Yeah. I want to drink the rest right now, but my heartburn is telling me now.

Your red wine. Um, so they are up there. Spike is like, I let you down, da. And he's like, no, good lad. You did, you did great out there. And he was like, I didn't hit any of them. I got scared. And his dad's kind of encouraging him.

Um, they are stuck up there with the zombies kind of around them. Spike sees off in the distance of fire and he's like, what is that? And the dad's like, I don't know another village. I don't know what it is. He's like dismissive of it. He's like, Oh, it's nothing. Also, can I ask a clarifying question? So with the alpha, is it like one alpha and then all rage zombies or is it like a bunch of alphas?

It seems like there's definitely more than one, but it's maybe like little clans, each little. Seems like packs, like an alpha that has its grip. Yeah. Okay, so the ones that are, are they all alphas going after them or it's all rage? No, it's just one and then the rage. And then the rage guy.

So there's like rage ones around the house and the alpha has not moved. It is standing by a lone tree on the top of the hill. With like his huge penis just swinging back and forth. Yes, exactly. It's just watching what. Yeah, how's it supposed to move that thing around? Yeah, tripod.

It's just observing and when they're in the attic, they say something like, yeah, he's gonna wait us out. Like the alphas are smarter than the other ones, he's gonna, he's gonna wait us out. Like there's, Delphas are smarter than the other ones. So he like knows what's going on. They go to sleep. Spike has a dream of, uh, uh, Ila like calling to him with red eyes in the water. She's got like the red is how you know they're zombies. It's this like redness around the eyes.

Um, and that's intercut with like a zombie stampede in the dream. Um, and a, I think a deer stampede and it's like this quick cutting and all of a sudden the roof starts falling in and you realize that that is not part of the dream that there is some sort of stampede that has like made the cottage fall apart. So there was just falling on them. Holy shit. They run out of the house, coughing up dust and they're like, okay, now we have to fucking get out of here and Spike is like, but it's high tide.

Um, his dad's like, well, it's low enough. We, we don't have another option. Can the zombies swim? Is the whole point they can't swim? Or basically, yeah. Well, oh, they explained when he's walking across the the causeway that if you tried to swim the current is too strong And it would pull you out him to see okay, no one can swim it yes, right human or zombie. Yeah, okay They get there. They're overlooking the causeway. They're like it's deep, but we got to go they get in there

They feel like a little bit free. Have I missed anything? No, Sammy. No. Uh, it's like, we made it. Good lad. And then you kind of hear the alpha roar and then just like a million Ravens start coming in towards them. And it's like swarm of Ravens.

Like, is it Ravens or Sparrows? I have no idea, but birds, birds swoop in like over them and pass them. I have no idea, but birds, birds swoop in like over them and pass them. And then there's like, and we see the alphas like running through the, uh, forest or the meadows and then they kind of look back and they see that it's getting in the water and this is like knee deep water. So they start running and it starts Jay, his dad's just like fucking run. And now that we're,'re, they're like calling out to the watchmen who are asleep as they're getting chased

and he's gaining on them and they're running, they both fall down. We'd learned earlier, I forgot to mention this, but it comes up now that you can't kill the alpha with one arrow. They like are too strong. So dad turns around, shoots the alpha, it's like Terminator 2, Terminator, whatever.

It's fine. It's still running. Yep. They get up again. The, I think it's the boots poem starts playing again. And now we're like intercutting. They're like, they like turn the lights on. Everybody's battle stations.

We're seeing, like training of like arrow shooters in like old war, like footage mixed with these kids on the Island being trained. It's all like inner cutting as it's inner cutting the guy chasing as it's inner cutting them running. They're going, they're going. They like do a whole like fire, like a barrage of like brave heart arrows. Hits the guy, um, spike and Jamie duck.

The guy like goes down or maybe just gets hit, but he's back up. So they're like knee deep, running, running. He's gaining on them. He's gaining on them. He's like super close. And then they hit him with a fire arrow right through the chest and he goes down and he's burning and like, Oh, it's a close call. And so just one of the most high, it's so stressful.

It's also like a beautiful scene because the Northern lights are, it's basically approaching dawn, but you see the Northern lights and there's also the bioluminescence in the water. So as they're running, it's like the water is glowing and the sky is like this beautiful light show while you're so stressed and scared for them.

It's a really, really crazy scene. It's awesome. It's awesome, yeah. Uh, and then- Wait, so that's real too, like that was not generated? Or do you think they added it? I don't know how they did the Northern Lights. It could have been, it was probably comped.

Yeah, I'm sure it was added in unless they got really lucky. Yeah, you're right, you comped. Yeah, I'm sure it was added in, unless they got really lucky. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. Quick cut, like partying, like, you know, tavern style drinking, singing, whatever. Always a tavern in these situations. Yeah.

Uh, for the good lad. And Jamie is having a blast telling the story, like the hero story of Spike, of like, you should have seen him out there. And Spike's like, well, I didn't kill any of them or whatever. And his dad's like, he's being modest. And everyone's like cheering for Spike. I hate that this is happening at this point in the movie, by the way, like wish this was the end.

This is to me, like what is happening right now is like to me, psychotic. Cause as they're going into the woods, I'm like, this is the movie. Right. Son and dad alone in the thing. Yep. They're going to be lost here for a while. They're going to run into some stuff. They'll come back so that we've like reset here.

I'm like, well, okay, now what the hell is going to happen? Yeah. Yeah. So they're celebrating. Dad's excited. Spike sad. Spike is getting a couple of front of glances. I'm noticing from a couple of the 12 year olds, but dad is getting a couple

of glances from some of the women his age spike kind of appropriate. Yes. Not from the 12 year olds. Um, and it's like a whole like, congratulations spike. They've like knitted a big thing for him. It's like a whole big deal., spike. They've like knitted a big thing for him. It's like a whole big deal. Clearly bike leaves. Here's some noises.

Notices his dad in this like old Scottish kind of broken down, uh, stone hallway area with a woman that's not his mom. They're laughing or whatever. It kind of came back from Spike following them to that. Cut back. She's standing up and dad's going down on her. Oh. Well, at least it's female-centered pleasure.

At least we can. That's true. At least we can. We do appreciate that. That's what Spike says. And that's what Spike that's at least. And so he goes, he goes home. Isla is being watched over by, I think her father, or is it, who is that character? It's either her father or Jamie's.

It's, it's a grandpa of sorts. Forgot to mention him earlier. He showed up earlier and like asked Spike to like test his bow and arrow and stuff like that, kind of a quick thing, but he's been watching over Isla. He's like downstairs. He's like, Spike, I thought you'd still be out. And Spike's like, ah, whatever. I didn't want to. And he, and Spike's like, what was the deal with that fire? And he's like, oh, well, there was a, it's not a big deal. If your dad doesn't want you to know about it, yada yada. There was a doctor.

Does he say the doctor? Yes. He's like, he's like, Oh, the doctor. And, and yeah, spike is like, my dad wouldn't tell me anything. And yeah, grandpa's like, Oh, if he doesn't want to, you know, I shouldn't say, but says the word doctor and spike gets, uh, like catches onto this. And it's like, if there's a doctor, like someone could see mom. My mom.

Because there's no doctors on this island. So nobody really knows what's wrong with her. Yeah, grandpa leaves, Spike gets in bed with his mom and like, spoons her. Don't do this to me, I don't want, don't do that to me. I don't wanna know anything about mom and a son loving each other in apocalyptic times. Buckle up, Buckle up, ugly. Yeah, sorry, Hannah. I have a feeling.

God damn it. Did you guys Trojan horse this story into this other story? God damn it. This is actually, this will be beautiful by the time you've heard it all. Okay. Not good, but beautiful. Good distinction. So then dad comes home, Okay. Not good, but beautiful. Good distinction. So then dad comes home, like son coming up still drunk, spike, he left so early, whatever, whatever, gets in bed with them. Spike is mad at him.

They kind of have like an icy interaction. Spike goes downstairs. Dad is like, Hey, what's going on? Like tries to kind of gas spike up, make it okay. Um, starts making more eggs and spike is like, what's the deal with the doctor? And dad's like, well, there was this, he's a crazy guy. Uh, I didn't want you to know about this. I don't want you to hear about it. He's all he's pissed.

And we're seeing this intercut with the story. Now he's like, we, when this was all happening, we saw this smoke, we saw this fire, we went out over the hill to look and we saw this man, the doctor we knew. And there were just a bunch of dead bodies and he was just like casually throwing them on the fire. And he looked up at us like nothing was a problem. And he like waved and like, we see him like wave and being like, come on over. And this is kind of being intercut with, did you notice Sammy, this

looked kind of like some of the inner cuts from sunshine where we're like seeing the, we are seeing a bald man. Right. All redness on him looks like blood. Yeah. And it's like intercutting of him, like dragging bodies while the story is being told and coming back to normal. And there's like some sort of.

That's cool. I didn't know. I didn't notice, but that is, that is cool. And probably reminded me of that at least. Um, and so dad's like these fucking crazy, uh, you shouldn't think about it. He's all pissed either before the scene or after this scene. Uh, a lot. Isla did ask for a certain medication for her headache, which

is like, seemed to be the first time spike had heard of that, which made him think like, oh, there's a solution for this. Um, so, uh, they keep fighting. The eggs burn spike is like pushing back about, or he says he saw the dad with the woman, right? Dad gets mad. Oh, they have a back and forth. The dad hits spike.

Oh, Jamie hits Spike. Spike leaves. At some point, Jamie punches a wall. I can't remember the order of operations. Spike tells Jamie to leave. Spike yells at him, get, just leave us alone. Just leave us alone. Just get out.

And Jamie, yeah, turns to leave, punches the wall on his way out and leaves the house. Then we cut to, I think, a shed on fire. We go straight to back out by the guard gate. There is a shed on fire and Spike telling the guards like, oh, fire, fire. They need all the help over there. You guys all have to go over there to help with the fire. Like clearly trying to start some sort of distraction from the gate guards.

Oh, Spikes. And then Spike goes to his mom and is like, hey, they're outside now. She's like sitting and he's like, are you ready? We're gonna go. Wee! He's taking her, He's taking her. Yeah.

I thought, I mean, Jodie Comer has to have a bigger role in this movie. So that makes sense. But he is 12. I mean, 12 year olds are stupid. And that's the thing about like history is that we treat them like they're not stupid, but they're so stupid. How old are your kids? They're only, they're only stupid. All laugh. How old are your kids? They're only four and 19 months.

They're so much stupider than that. They're gonna be so stupid. They're gonna be so stupid when they're 12. All laugh. So they are now crossing the causeway in secret. I think we're hearing boots again, if I remember correctly. Oh wow, it keeps going.

Okay, I like this. Hey, when you find something remember correctly. Oh, wow. It keeps going. OK. I like this. When you find something that works. It's working. It's working. And they are out in the world now. Yep. They crossed across the way to the mainland. Mom's kind of out of it. So she seems like she doesn't really like know what's happening. Yeah, she's not going to help kill any zombies.

Does she have like a weapon? Well, Hamley. Okay. Okay. The weapon is a mother's love. Well, that is honestly like, yeah, that's real. That's real. So this is, I hope it's not a spoiler, essentially the last we are gonna see of Jamie for a while. Okay. And it's this interesting shift where the movie is now, we started in like- The mom and her son, mom and son. Yeah, father, son training to be a man. And now it's like son taking his mom out

to save her and mom and son. And what's going on? That's beautiful, I love that. It's a really cool choice. How's Garland? How dare you. It is also like, wait, what? No more Aaron Taylor Johnson.

Like that's shocking when a movie does that where you're like, but it, but it's his movie. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense when you find out that there are more planned, but in the, in the context of a standalone movie, you are like, oh wow, that's an interesting choice. Yeah.

So they're out there- I think I've even gotten to Ralph Fiennes freaking out. Yeah, Ralph Fiennes. I'm so glad I didn't know he was in this movie. I tried to get no information. Oh, that's fun. That is fun. I didn't know until today.

In the flashes to the doctor, it's not clear that it's Hammer's that when you knew that it was him. It's not clear. I mean, well, when it flashed to him, my girlfriend nudged me and like, she did this like hand thing with me, like the like, credit thing. So I was like, oh, this is somebody I should know who it is.

But she was like, this is great news. And so they are in the forest or the meadow, not a ton until they set up to go to sleep. Yeah, there is a moment where Isla has like a moment of lucidity and she looks around and realizes that they're on the mainland and she does freak out a bit. And she's like, we're not supposed to be here. We need to go back.

We need to go back right now. And Spike kind of calms her down and she just like kind of exhausts herself. And so then he's like, yeah, let's rest for the night. Let's go to, and they find a little like church looking thing, perhaps the church from the opening scene. I'm not sure, but, uh, yeah, they like set up camp for the night. Spikes like, I'll watch.

I'm the man here. Immediately falls asleep. Mom is asleep. Stupid. And we get our next appearance of a crawler as they're sleeping. This big guy like crawls up, kind of guts spikes foot, gets his shoelace, thinks it's a worm and like starts sucking on it. Realized like spits it out.

I was like, oh gosh that's not a worm. I'm assuming what he's thinking. And then, yeah, this is a word choice. We start to hear their thoughts. Gets a cover over something goes like over his face. Quick cut. Um, right. Is this about to kill spike.

They wake up, they look over there is a dead crawler next morning. They're like, what the hell happened? Spike's like, we have to go. I'll looks back for a second. And we, she like kind of maybe remembers this. It's like that weird kind of flashback thing. And we see that it was her that put the thing over his face and bashed his head against the thing until they killed it.

Like rage. She had like another rage moment there that we're not sure how much she remembers of it, but like she clearly saved it. Um, they move on and is, we cut to the soldiers. I had myself. Yeah. This is where we cut to suddenly soldiers running away from like classic rage

zombies, uh, feels like a more of a scene from the first or second movie. And it's like, ah, they're like overrun by the zombies. One soldier goes down, kind of turns another soldier kills him. It was like, I got him. And then something comes and kills that soldier. The soldiers go and they barricade themselves behind like a gate, like a cast iron gate, and they're standing in there and like light up a few more of those guys. And in a language I thought was French, but I think we find out later was Swedish, are

like, got those ugly fuckers or whatever, something like that. And now they are in a like pitch black. It's two soldiers or maybe three. Three, tunnel thing. Tunnel. Flashlights on, looking around, something comes and we see an alpha again. And the alpha. Big dick. You know it, baby.

You know, really huge. Well, will I'm defoe levels? Yeah. I'm defoe level. Oh, yeah. I think even defoe could not be an alpha. If I'm being totally honest. Yeah.

It defies defoe. That's a dick that defies, defile. That's a dick that defies the file. Beautiful. They put on all the movie posters. The tagline. That's the poem for the next one. Oh, so Derek. And we get our first in the moment skull rip.

Um, so the alpha grabs one of the soldiers by like the, I think like this, basically the eye sockets like rips his head clean out. Is that not like copyright predator? With the spine. With the spine. Oh shit. But that feels like a real. Oh, a thing comes up on the screen. Have you ever seen screener, like a screener?

I think it comes up when they do that. And one soldier escapes. Um, like shooting, running gets away. Cut. Maybe we see this right now. It comes up at a certain point. We see some rage zombies. It's kind of panning across them just out and about in the world.

And we see a pregnant one in the pan full again, fully naked. Whoa. We see a pregnant female. Sorry. Sorry. And yeah, no, no, that's like interesting to me in a weird way. Yeah. What's going on with with the fetus inside of her? How long does she stay pregnant?

We don't know. Was it a pregnant woman who got turned or can they get pregnant? It's a lot of questions. Much like as if you're reading George Saunders, or Swim in the Pond in the Rain, they've set up some questions and we have to think about what our audience is thinking now and what will be answered. What are we the audience wondering here? Yeah.

That's what I'm wondering. So we do have a question now. Yeah. Meanwhile, how does this next chase scene start with Isla and Spike? I can't remember, but they're just continuing on their journey towards where Spike had seen the fire the next day, and so they're going through the meadows.

And I think this is when the Killian Murphy looking guy pops up from like a, it's almost like a cornfield type thing. There's like tall grass and he floats up from it. And then more start popping up. And so they are in, being chased by another horde of zombies. Are they are they rage guys? Those are rage guys.

Yeah, they're rage guys. So they kind of wander and then when they like they're like, and then when they see you they're like, before this happened, there is a moment where Ila and spike are like on a picnic blanket, I think, or is this later? No, it's now. Um, that, well, they're, they're hanging out and she, she confuses, she, she confuses him with her father. Yeah. Uh, she says she, at some point she says he has her father's eyes and then he or

she like kind of confuses him with her father and tells a story about him. They see like an angel or is there, am I conflating scenes? Yeah, yeah. There's like a statue and she turns to Spike, an angel statue. And she says like, dad, do you remember when we first saw this? And you said it would still, it would be there past when we like like past our lives and it really scared me, but here it is and. It's like when you look at the statue,

you're looking into the past and the future because the statue's gonna be here. That's cool. Aw. I mean, sweet little moment. And then she, Lucid at one point says that he looks like her father and then kind of becomes unLucid again.

And then yes, there is that moment with the Killian Murphy look alike spike, I think is hugging her and kills it or something like that. Or she's hugging him. Does he cause he kills it right. Or am I making that am I thinking of it later? I can't remember, but then more come and they're running and they end up back at a gas station. A thing I haven't mentioned yet is that the soundtrack is the young fathers.

It's like throughout it throughout the movie of fucking rules. I remember so specifically being in high school and watching the first one. And as he's like on the bridge, the soundtrack is playing. I don't know if it's God's beauty,, Black Emperor or, and it's like this driving fucking awesome music and in the gas station, when that AM 180 song plays. Yeah. That like piano song. That's awesome. So this soundtrack feels like in that world, but also new.

It's got like cool little like piano, we like sounds and I'm not good at music, but it's awesome. It's awesome. So anyway, they're running, they end up at this gas station. We see there's like fumes in the gas station, kind of like thick in the air. They run in, they start immediately kind of choking on the fumes. Some of the rage zombies run in and are also kind of choking and chasing them at the same time. They are kind of cornered

all of a sudden above them like a light or window opens from the gas station and an army guy like shoots in and it's like and like the whole gas station lights up. He says get down, get down. So they lay down flat below the, the like vapor and yeah, then it lights, lights up, kills all the zombies. Lites them up. All the zombies light on fire. They come out, they're throwing up. Ila is like fucked. She's like gone, coughing, throwing up, kind of like passing out.

Um, and we come to find that this was the soldier we saw earlier, who is, uh, in the Swedish army, Navy, whatever forces. Uh, we learned, yeah, they're both saying we learned later and, um, everyone died by him basically. Wow. And this is where you end up. You didn't, and nobody's going to come to rescue him. Yeah, that really sucks.

That's a lot of bad things. His name's Eric. Eric, Eric. Eric. So Eric is carrying Isla, they're walking and chatting. And. Chatting. Yeah. Watching them chatting. I don't really know what comes up before they stop walking here.

Yeah, I think that's the next thing I had. They just, this is where they have like a little picnic blanket. They set up a beautiful picnic blanket and they just chill for a little bit. Aw, they've earned it. So important. In the lightest moment of the movie, Eric pulls out his cell phone. He's like trying to explain iPhones and the internet.

I'm just really glad they did this because in my mind was like, the whole rest of the world is just normal and fine. And, and like, I liked the acknowledgement of like, Oh yeah, life is like totally going on without you and you don't even know what an iPhone is. It's just great. Shoot a whole movie on it. Right now, look around you. On the iPhone.

Eric tells a story that I liked where he's like, where a stupid friend became a door dash driver, something like that or whatever. And the kid's like, what is that? And he's like, well, you get food on the internet. What is that? And he's like, the point is, I told my friend he was wasting his life.

You only get one life to live. I'm gonna spend mine in the army. Now I know that I'm wasting my life to death here. I made the wrong choice. I wish I was the delivery driver. Pulls out his phone. He's like, you want to see my girlfriend? Shows Spike this picture of a woman with like big facial plastic surgery. She's like, not like insane, but a modern woman. Adjusted. Yeah. A lot of lip filler.

Adjusted. Adjusted. An adjusted woman. Not an adjusted woman. Not natural. And immediately Spike is like, what's wrong with her? What's wrong with her face? And the guy's like, no, she's beautiful.

And he's like, was she bitten by something? I'm like, would you have an allergic reaction? It's a reaction to venom from a steak. Yeah. He says one of his friends has a shellfish allergy and like, that's what she looks like, and she's like, is she allergic to shellfish? It's very funny. It's somehow managed to make what I would call like the most boomery joke of all.

Pretty funny, actually. It's just like a little moment. Eric's phone dies forever. He throws it. It's like, oh, that's the end of that. No more movie. And Isla calls Spike, her dad a couple more times. The guy's like, I knew you guys were weird here, but I don't know what's going on. Just a couple light laughs from Eric. They get going again. Isla starts walking. He's like, wait, she can walk? Because he's been carrying her this whole time. And they hear a noise in a defunct train, essentially.

Isla's like, determinedly walking towards it. Eric at first is like, why are we going over? Let's not go over there. But Spike is like, I'm not gonna leave her. So we're all going to check out this noise now. And it's like, I'm not doing it, but I tried twice. Which one was the closest? The third one? Sammy?

Maybe the second actually. Okay. Cut it, play them both next to each other and try to determine what the one was the movie from. Perfect. Isla goes in, there's like a pounding, like we see the physicality of a rage zombie. She rounds the corner and like braced against the train

is the pregnant zombie giving birth. Um, like clearly in the, like standing in the middle of trying to give birth. Oh, Isla has a moment with it. She doesn't know what to do. And then decides in her like womanly connection, she puts her hands up and the rage zombie braces itself against her hands, uh, and pushes and pushes and a baby comes out and they try to cut the umbilical cord. Isla and the zombie together.

No, no, no. I was doing it and then sorry, spike comes in, spike runs in with Eric. Eric is kind of screaming like, why are we here? What does this baby look like? Baby looks like a normal baby. Not to say zombies are abnormal, but it looks like a normal baby. I saw a baby in the trailer

and I was wondering about this baby. So this is the baby in the trailer. It's a baby born of zombie, but as human. That seems normal. And they slightly explain it later on in a way that's satisfying enough for me. Oh my God. So now they're saddled with a baby. They have the baby.

They cut the umbilical cord. Then the zombie screams and turns on them. Big jump scare. Eric shoots her and then he's turns the gun on the baby. And it's like, we have to kill it. Yeah. And they're like, no, no, no. Specifically, Isla is like, no, no, no, I won't let you.

And so then Spike stands in front of Isla and it's like, I'm not gonna let you do it. Like, please. And it's this high intensity moment. The baby's crying. Eric like trains the gun on them both. And right as he's about to shoot, a hand grabs him by the head and

pulls him out of the train. And I, at some point the head ends up back on what happens with the head. They end up. They get the head back with the spine. Yeah. I'm not sure exactly. Throw back, drop back in. And an alpha grabbed him.

So now they have a baby and a head. They have a baby and a head with the Spikes. Yeah, Spikes got the head, Isla's got the baby, and then the alpha drops into the train with them and starts chasing them through kind of like that mission impossible scene where they're just running through

the different train cars. And again, I don't know if I need to reiterate this, the alpha is swinging down. Yes, yes. I feel like this is the most prominent shot yet. It's just like front and center. I just like, ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta. Hitting all the train seats as it.

The foley's wild at this point. And we're hearing his thoughts and he's like, ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow in place, uh, and we reveal Ray finds all covered in red, uh, very calm and chill. And essentially, uh, is like, this is Gus or whatever. He knows the, all the alphas. Uh, he's looking at like face to face. He tells us what the mix of the chemicals he uses to put them asleep are. Reveals at some point that he's covered in iodine because it like the zombie blood gets on you and you, it, it,

zombie blood hates iodine because you don't want the, if you remember from the first movie, the blood gets in Brendan Gleason's eyes and he turns, comes out from a crow eating a zombie. When Eric shoots the, uh, uh, infected that just gave birth. Uh, it's sprays blood on Isla's forehead and they like spike is immediately like close your eyes and like wipes it off her head. I liked that they included that. And I was like, yeah. Got it.

Yep. Yep. Yep. So now we have met a doctor car or something. It's a K-doctor. Kelsen. Um, and he's very friendly and wacky. And he was like, I've been here for 16 years.

And he just puts them to sleep. He's not killing him. He doesn't kill them. Yeah. There's friends, there's loved ones. Yeah. He's like, that's my husband. He's the top, unfortunately.

Then Spike's like, what's the top, unfortunately. Then Spike's like, what's a top? And then there's like another time where it's like, well, you can be a switch, but I prefer to bottom full time. I was like, dad, you used to top for mom. And we get the world basically of this doctor, which is essentially like I've been here 16 years on my own. He's kind of explaining it. They cross like a river that has like two ropes that you hold on it as you cross. And he's like, this keeps the zombies out.

They get to the other side and he's like, Oh, our poor friend, Eric here, you know, like he's got the head and we reveal the bone. A Christmas tree. In the interviews I read, it's the name of the next movie. It's called like 28 years later, the bone something. I forget what it is. Oh yeah. It's called like 28 years later, The Bone something. I forget what it is. Oh yeah. Christmas tree. It does look like a forest though.

From a distance, they look like tree trunks and then in the middle of Christmas tree. Yeah, like a grove, like a stupid modern day. Yeah, it's a caruso. It's like, It's a caruso coated. They go in, he kind of starts talking about his thesis on life. And he's like, I want to hear it.

I'm interested in this. This is perfect for you. Okay. Uh, it's like, do you know the term memento mori? Now I have seen there's a store called memento mori. This is a story about me. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I know from the store, the moment of death. And he goes, remember death.

And I was like, well, I've been wrong for 10 years. But yeah. You stood up in the whole theater and we're like, I know. He's like, remember death. Death is a part of life. We must always remember death. And so we see that he, his ritual and remembering death of humans and zombies alike is he burns them or he like puts them in a smoker he's built.

Uh, I don't know if it's like an egg smoker off Amazon or what, what the vibe is, but, um, and so we see him do this with Eric's skull. He puts it in the smoker. We see like he cleans the muck off of it, like pulls the hair out. We see that it's got like a river that kind of runs from, or like a water bridge that runs from the smoker into the river where all the muck comes off. The muck. That's a good word.

That's really gross. And the nature of it all, but like we're getting really the vibe that this is like a fun quirky guy comparatively to the people we run into at the end of the first 28 days later where it's like, oh, these might be nice army people. And then it's like, well, we need to, um, we need to make babies with your women. And so this is like a nice, like there's positivity in humanity too. It feels like a more yin and yang of the whole thing. He has him, he says a last poor Eric, um, which if you're like one of the

loser nerds in the theater, like me, you laugh loud, just loud enough to know that that's a reference to Hamlet. Last poor Yorick. reference to Hamlet. That's poor Yorick. I knew him well. And he has Spike put the skull into the Christmas tree. He's like, pick a spot for it. And Spike does it, a couple skulls fall out and he's like, it's fine.

No big deal. He's just very chill. He's meticulously built this bone graveyard forest, whatever Christmas tree. And he's like, chill about it. Everything is all good, baby. Uh, and then he's like, so what's up? Why are you guys even here? He points out that the baby can go like maybe three days without milk.

It can drink water for three days, but then it needs milk. And you also, this is, I feel like a little bit where we get like how the baby is not infected. He's like, they very briefly are like, he's like, I always wondered about this, the like magic of the placenta or something like that. So maybe this woman was turned and was already pregnant, but the baby was kept safe by placenta?

Or I think probably the logic as I understand it is the alpha impregnates them. Like it seemed like even this moment when they had the baby was the alpha being like, this is my baby. Yeah. It does seem like they, it, from the alpha's perspective, maybe they killed his wife and stole his baby. Yeah.

Oh, sure. Um, and they can get pregnant, but the placenta just protects them from the virus, virus. Yeah. Which I'm satisfied with. I'm protects them from the virus. Yeah. Which I'm satisfied with. I'm not a doctor. Yep. Yeah. Works for me. The placenta is huge and gross. You should Google image it right now. If you don't know what it looks like, if you're listening, Google image it right now.

I think I looked this up a lot. It's a thing in and of itself. But yeah, he's like, that's not why you guys didn't come here for the baby, did you? Yeah. And so they're like, no, we need you to examine Isla. He asks her questions. He's a very thorough doctor. He's like, may I touch your breasts? He's got to examine them, ask her like the frequency of the headaches, her

lucidity, sits them down and he's like, I'm sorry to tell you, you have cancer and it's metastasized to your brain and that explains lumps in your breasts and you're dying. And so then Spike and Isla are kind of like crying and talking and he's like, what does that mean? So there's no medicine for you? It's like, no. Spike's like really freaking out. He's like, no, there, there's gotta be a way we can do something. We'll fix something. We'll find something and we'll go in, we'll go to the pharmacy or like, we'll go deeper in and we'll look for something that can make you better.

And he's like really panicking. And I think in over focusing on the plot, I haven't underlined enough how much this movie is about Spike. He is like the center of every how much this movie is about Spike. He is like the center of every shot. It's very about him. He's very much driving the action of like, we have to get to the medicine. We have to save my mom. We have to get to the medicine. So this is the moment where he finds out it's impossible. And Spike and Isla are like hugging Spike and Ila are like hugging and the doctor kind of appears in Ila's sightline

amongst all the bones and he kind of like nods at her and she nods at him. And he like holds up the blowgun and they have like a goodbye. Spike and Ila, Spike doesn't know what's going on, that this is happening. And he shoots Spike with the blowgun and Spike like sits down and freezes and like can't move. And the doctor is like, look, death is inevitable for all of us. The greatest gift you can have is to have a peaceful one. Oh, wait. So he's so he's killing him with the blood art.

No, they're just tranquilized. He's just like, because Spike is like freaking out so much, they like share this glance of like, okay, well he needs something to calm down. He needs to calm down. Okay, that makes sense. It's a, I was very moved by it. And there's just a little bit of comedy to it

because of how quick he's ready to go. Right. They're like, the pace of the movie means it has to happen kind of quickly. So like from her finding out to him being like, may I? It is a little bit comical. This man's whole deal is shooting those blow darts. He's got it right and ready.

Yeah. He's super ready for it. So they have a goodbye. She talks about her father's eyes again, right. And how his eyes are like them. And pretty quickly after that, the doctor reappears with her skull. Whoa.

And hands it to Spike. Wow. Well, put her out of her misery, I guess. Like she's something and she's not gonna get better. Is he gonna be immediately ready to see his mom's skull? Like that's, well. It's a different world. That's true.

It's 28 years later. And he is like tranquilized. Yeah a different world. That's true. It's 28 years later. And he is tranquilized. Yeah. Right. But it's intense. It's really sad. It's like an open casket funeral immediately. Yeah. Yes.

But like also open skeleton's funeral. Open, yeah. Yeah, more than- Open body. More than you usually see, yeah. But it is, yeah, this like beautiful moment of like, in this world you don't usually get to choose your death. And she's been suffering and-

Yeah, all you see in the whole movie is her in pain. So you both were very prescient. Spike takes it and climbs the Christmas tree and puts it on top like the angel. And the sun starts to rise and he turns it to face so it can see every sunrise. Very sweet. Very sweet.

But also I was a little bit like, should this- What's the structural integrity of this Christmas tree? Climbing, he's like just been tranquilized and now he's climbing a bone tree. It's pretty high, like 30 feet tall probably. But other than that, it's a really sweet moment. Yeah. You're of course worried for the child actor

and the kid in the movie. But of the things he's faced, this is not the scariest of them all. No. They, he's like, well, they're kind of resetting everything. And then we get a. Alpha is back. Motherfucker.

Uh, the alpha charges them. They go into this underground kind of like under a great that the like hiding place that the doctor has created. And they're like hiding down there. It's like a tiny tight space is the doctor and spike and the alpha is like reaching in and yelling and like, it's that quick cut, scary, whatever. Do they still have the baby too? They have the baby as well.

And there's like a moment where it feels like the alpha gives up. Oh, they. Yeah. There's a moment where it feels like the Alpha gives up. Oh, they. Yeah, there's a moment where it feels like the Alpha gives up. Brief break. And then another part of the ground, it like slams its hands through and grabs the doctor by the head and starts pulling in front of Spike. Now it's like going and going and Spike, I think, grabs one of the blow darts, blows

it, hits the alpha in the arm, stops it, kind of slow moment, and the doctor goes, I think you guys should probably head back. Yeah, it's probably about time. Like to have the beginnings of your whole spine being ripped out via your head, like, well, how are things sitting with him now that the process started? It's like, I need to think about this for a while.

You should probably roll out. Like, I, ugh. And so Spike and the baby make their trek back. Very without any problems. Easy peasy. A lot easier than the truck out. Okay. Um, the baby appears at the gate and we start hearing, uh, it's like

intercutting, um, with different footage. And we start hearing a letter that spike has written to his dad. Um, that is like, don't worry about me. I'll come back when I'm ready. I'll be fine. Here's the baby. Her name is Isla. And I think he says it's a baby born of a, I think.

Yeah, but that she's not infected. Yeah. Jamie freaks out. Ah, tries to like run out into the water as the first time we've seen him since we last left him. Cut back to spike. It's like intercut. He's like roasting a fish on a fire, having a nice time.

And then around the corner come a bunch of zombies and it's the music's kind of building of like, Hey man, what's this next movie going to be like, uh, he's going to be out in the world, whatever. The zombies come and start to almost overrun him. And then, uh, something kills one of them. Or like, and then a guy pops up and he's like, hey, it looks like you did a pretty good job, man. But even for you, I think this is going to be too many.

And then he's like, boys and a bunch of other guys with the same long blonde hair show up. They're all wearing track suits. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? It's so funny. It's Jack O'Connell. So this is how I knew that Jimmy was coming back, because I knew Jack O'Connell was in this movie. And so I was like, okay, he's got to be Jimmy because he's not in it. And he comes in right at the end and yeah, he's in like a velour tracksuit with a princess tiara on with the big cross hanging around. They're also like Teletubby colors. They're all

like kind of dressed like Teletubbies. And he's like, mind if we cut in and then they just start going to town on these. He goes like steady, steady. And then I think he goes fucking go and then all the guys jumped down. So he's, wait, I'm sorry. It's very unexpected. So this is Jack O'Connell. Also spiked went out there. I was thinking he was going to go back to try to learn from Ralph Rafe

Fiennes to like be a doctor or something. No, he just went back out there to like on his own in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Just be alone. Okay. And so, and so then, so then Jack O'Connell comes with it, like an army of little Lego lie, little Teletubby Lego lie.

Yes. Yes. So the tabletop and there's a, there's a British TV host named Jimmy Savile, who in the, our world ended up getting outed as a pedophile, but in the universe that they're in, he was still just a famous kids TV host who dressed kind of similarly to how they're all dressed. So like they're stuck in the pop culture of the time they were kids when this

all happened and now they're like a gang around this Jimmy, uh, based on the pop culture at the time, but this scene, they kick it's like techno music is like, and they are killing the zombies like hilariously. Two of them are like, uh, kind of sawing them in half with kind of like, uh, as if you were like, like a trip wire through clay and they're kind of like, uh, as if you were like, like a trip wire through clay, right? And they're kind of like dancing while they're doing it. They're having a great time. It's like all these like flips parkour kills and the tone of the movie has like fully shifted. Uh, and it's like, bop, bop, bop, bop kills them all. Um, he's got this like suave,

but kind of slimy thing goes up to spike and is like, Hey, man, I really like your style. You might you might want to ride with me names Jimmy. And then it's like credits. He said he says, Jimmy, let's be friends. Let's be friends. I saw they say Intellitubbies. Probably. But he's not actually Jimmy Seville, the pedophile. Or is he supposed to be- No, he's Jimmy from the beginning of the movie.

He's Jimmy from the- He's the kid. He's the kid. Yes. Yeah. Okay. But I did not know that there were going to be more of these necessarily, so this really threw me. I was not expecting a cliffhanger. I did not know that this, I mean, even if you were, it's still like so tonally different than what we have just been watching. And

so, I mean, I think it's supposed to feel pretty jarring, but it really does. But now I can't freaking wait. I am. I was so. I love Jack O'Connell. I love Jack O'Connell. I don't think I know him for anything. He was in Sinners. I haven't seen it yet, believe it or not. Oh, it's great. He was first at. I love Jack O'Connell. I don't think I know him from anything. He was in Sinners.

I haven't seen it yet, believe it or not. Oh, it's great. He was first, I think he's in, no, he's not in Game of Thrones. I get him mixed up with that other guy. Oh, he does look like that other guy. He's in a British show called Skins, and he was in another movie we covered called Eden Lake.

Nasty. But yeah, he's great. So I'm excited. Joel, when Joel came up with this movie, he really loved it. And he was like, it's great. It does a crazy thing at the end. And I could never have would never have predicted that this was, in fact, what he was talking about. It's so this movie ruled top to bottom awesome. That is so fun.

And it was such a, the whole movie is so specific and audacious and its own in a way that is like so refreshing, especially for a sequel that could just be like, Hey, it's more of the same. It is so full of choices. It's so creative. The trailer is a really good window into the style of the movie. Yeah, but there's a lot of really unexpected stuff. I mean, Danny Boyle is like, yeah,

makes directing choices that are really noticeable and unexpected and kind of make you go like, well, what's this? But then it like totally works and it makes it so fun. I just love the confidence of those choices. Like it's really exciting. Because it turns this like thing that we're predicting on its head

where it's like what you said in the beginning, Dan, where you're predicting that it's gonna be like a son and his father learning how to like fight the zombies. You think that's gonna be the movie. And that's not only predictable for this type of movie, but also just like movies in general of like, the young man figuring out how to like be violent in the way to protect everyone.

And that's not actually what the movie's about. The movie's about accepting the fact that people die, accepting death, accepting that your loved ones are going to die and like, that you have to move past it and you have to be bigger than it. And like, that's a part of life. And that's huge. I mean, there should be more movies that do that. It's accepting that like you have, you can make choices, like that he, he's like learning to make his own choices.

And not just do what people tell him to do. Yeah. Yeah. It's like so confidently told. Uh, and I really think. I like, I like Alex Garland a lot. It's probably one of my favorite writers, but he, for me is like a little hit or miss with character and like humanity.

And I think Danny Boyle is so like, someone else said this to me when we were talking about, but like more Spielberg-y in his like, you know, he made the Beatles movie. Like he has a sweetness to him and a tenderness that like, I think they pair really well together so that it's not just Alex Garland's like, characters pontificating about Adam and Eve and like eating red apples all the time.

Right. Which they do do in this movie as well. There are a lot of apples when they have their picnic. Weird. Oh, it was so good. Oh, it's so good. I'm so happy it was so good. And Dan, that was really all from your just memory?

Yeah. That's insane. That's incredible. Really? I don't know. I just saw it three days ago. That's what I did, but I wouldn't have been able to do that. I wrote everything down. I can't just go off the dome like that. Emily kind of has this too. Emily, you also have a weird photographic memory for movies.

I can't. I watch a movie and it flows right through me. It's gone the second I see it. Yeah. I had to start writing immediately after I got out of the theater. I was like, okay, write down as much as you remember. I was wondering what your process is down as much as you need. I was wondering what your process is. Are you just on your phone? I didn't take notes during the movie, but I do take them right afterwards

because I'm like, a timer begins where I'm gonna start just forgetting everything by the minute. I think it also helps that I was in a wrapped. I loved this movie. If you had me, and I also love the last Mission Impossible, but I could not go through the whole plot of the movie the way, like, cause that's like two scenes

that are just incredible and then a lot of other stuff. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. This one is like nonstop interesting and efficient. Wow, I'm so glad this was such an anticipated one for all of us, particularly for you, Sammy. I'm so thrilled that it delivered. Yeah, what an exciting time. I can't wait to see it again.

I would see it, by the way. I would maybe see it. I would see it. I really do. Maybe I said. Even with the baby, even with the birth, even with the mother, I would see it. I feel like, scary-wise, how would we say this rates?

There are some jump scares and it's, I think there are more just like tense moments when there's chases where you're just like, oh, are they gonna make it? Are they gonna make it? So I was like more stressed than scared. So it depends on your personal. It really actually helps knowing the plot of the movie

in this one. It doesn't always help to know. Absolutely. This one actually helps because those tense moments, you know the outcome of those tense moments. Well, it's like when I saw A Quiet Place 2 after we did it on the podcast and I was bored. I was fucking bored because I was like, there are no stakes anymore. None. But this one is like, this will be a good movie. It's visually really cool. The music, like we said, is awesome.

And yeah, it's worth seeing if you guys are feeling brave. For the DONGs alone. For the DONGs alone. Worth seeing for the DONGs. And are the DONGs, are they like, they're nasty zombie? They're nasty zombie. Or are they pristine and the rest of the body is decay? Hey, look.

Yeah, the DONGs are fucking like Michelangelo. Sculpted out of marble. And they're shot. I mean, beautiful. Portrait lighting just on the iPhone. Just for the dicks. Oh, wow. Yeah.

It's worth seeing. All right. It's worth seeing. Dan, thank you. Yeah, this, it, it, it, it'll be a surprise if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something doesn't top the, if something Just for the dicks. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's worth seeing. All right. It's worth seeing. Dan, thank you. Yeah.

This, it'll be a surprise if something doesn't top, if something tops this for my movie of the year. This was- Wow. A very nostalgic, because I love the first one so much. Yeah. And like, it was so, it's pretty rare to go see a movie in theaters and feel like the awe you feel every once in a while, especially growing up

of seeing something you've never seen before. And this had like that kind of feeling where it was like a bit of the feeling of nostalgia, but also a lot of choices that were like, how cool that people made these choices. It's so fun to feel surprised in a movie. Like that doesn't happen where I'm just like, I really didn't like see this coming.

And yeah, it's like, it's a very exciting feeling when you're just like, yeah. Like I think I felt that way during like everything ever all at once. Yeah. You know, I felt that way during challenges. Yeah. And it is really wild to just be like,

it's, it's, how did they do it? Yeah, it's wonderful, a wonderful feeling. Dan, can you promise that you'll come back next time you see a movie that makes you feel this way? If you ever feel, even if it's not a horror movie, if you feel like you have a complete photographic memory. Dan Lippert exception, yeah, for any. Absolutely. Dan Lippert exception.

We always make new rules for our correspondence. I don't know what those are for our other correspondence, but for you. We always dolivered exception. We always make new rules for our correspondents. I don't know what those are for our other correspondence, but for you. We always do though. We always, we always make new rules. Who am I in company with? Who, what's my correspondent company? Oh, you're going to love this.

Um, the first and the original and the best. And the one who coined the term. Um, we've got Betsy. Sure. We've got Paul F. Tompkins. Great company.

Maybe Wes. almost a Wes? Wes, yeah. Not yet, but almost. Maybe Wes? Yes, Wes, because he did Anaconda, Cocaine Bear, and the shark one, the reef. Wes. So Wes.

Wes. Yeah. He's an animal guy. He's an animal guy. He's a biologist. Yeah. We got a lot of two timers He's an animal. He's a biologist. Yep. We got a lot of two timers. Wow. Yeah, it's a great, it's a great honor.

It's a really great, it's a really great club. We're making jackets, we'll get jackets. We'll get a jacket in the mail. Thank you, I love the shirt I got. Speaking of gaining weight, I wish I hadn't grown out of it, but that was a lovely pandemic surprise. Oh, we did get, we did get a shirt.

I forgot about that, yeah. That's right. Yeah, Dan,, we did get, we did. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. Dan, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. And before we go, will you tell our listeners where they can find you or anything you want to plug? On social media, I am at DanLipperCool. Go to biggrandewebsite.com for all things that my sketch group, Big Grande makes.

We sell them all at cart. If you want to listen to a weekly improv podcast, that's the Man Dog Pod. And if you want to do some more paywalled stuff, I am behind the paywall at comedy bang bang world with my podcast Eat Pray Dunk, which is where I play Bill Walton and my podcast Hey Randy with Lily Sullivan, Tim Balz, Mary Sohn and Brett Morris. Wow. Amazing. Very good. You can find them in a lot of places. Mm-hmm. Look around. Look around.

Look around. Watch Paranormal Activity Next of Kin, is that what that one's called? Oh yes, of course. It's a horror podcast. And listen to our episode. And listen to the episode. But it's very, Dan gets a really good haircut.

And it's worth it. It's worth it. Look at that haircut. Also it's worth it. It's worth it. That haircut. Also Watch Hacks season four. That's true. Watch Hacks season four. Yes, I pop up as a sex store.

Dana made me so happy. I really laughed. Thank you, Sammy. So good. Thank you. I loved the whole season. It's great. I, with the last three things I have shot are

porno director, sex store employee, and Yogi the bear with his penis out. So I got to type if you're a casting director. Take note. Anybody listen up. These are the sorts of things Dan's available. Wow. What a thrill.

What a start to Helltel. I know. I am riding high. I'm feeling top of the world. Top of that bone Christmas tree. Ooh, baby. We will be back with more, but until then we gotta end this with a Scottish accent.

Yes, we do. Scotland, Scotland, Eric, from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch. That was not bad. Ooh, that too scary, that was really good too. That was like so good, Sammy, what the fuck? Thank you, Henley. From out of the blue.

I am Scottish, smart is a Scottish name. I mean, I'm not, I don't have a Scottish accent normally, as you know. Right, it's not like imprinted into your brain, but it seems like it might be. Scottish is an awesome accent. I love a Scottish accent. Get it, too, why does it always sound like a vampire?

It does, it does a little bit. It does always go into a little bit It does. It does a little bit. It does always go into a little bit of that. Dracula. Goodbye. Goodbye. That was Dracula again. Goodbye.

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