Too Scary; Didn't Watch - BEETLEJUICE with Tony Hale

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

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This is a Head Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. And Henley, Sammy's not here. That deafening silence is the lack of Sammy. We hate the end of the intro when there is any lack of Sammy.

I know. Look, she got to take care of herself. We support that. We hate it, but we support it. We do. We're checking her location constantly. That's true. Making sure. That's true.

Yeah, she's lying to us. She's not at home. No, you know what? I support her doing whatever she needs to do. But here we are just you and me for now. For now. And Hen, did anything scary happen to you this week? Well, yesterday was Easter.

And for anyone that needs a reminder, I do live at a church. And my husband is an Episcopalian priest. And this is a big church and Easter is a big deal here. And Easter is a big deal at church. Oh, so. One of the biggest. And so also it was my first year making Easter baskets for my kids, because they're three and a half

and one and a half. So I was like, okay, we're doing Easter baskets for the first time. So put a lot of effort into that. Really excited. Okay, you guys, they proceeded to get each three additional Easter baskets throughout the rest of the day each.

So there's a total of eight Easter baskets in my house. OK, be honest, which one's the best one? No, I can't say that out loud. Oh, tell me later. I can't play favorites. But it does look like the Easter bunny threw up all over my house because the amount of insane colorful plastic shit that is just littered everywhere. It's a big plastic holiday. because the amount of insane, colorful, plastic shit

that is just littered everywhere. It's a big plastic holiday. We don't talk about it that much, but those eggs, the things that fill in the crinklies and all of that. So there was an Easter egg hunt at the church. They were 4,000 eggs that were hit. 4,000, 4,000.

And I think the majority of them. Tell me they were in the graveyard. Please tell me they were in the graveyard. They were in the graveyard, of course. They were in the graveyard. Where else would they have been? They they were in the graveyard. Please tell me they were in the graveyard. They were in the graveyard, of course. They were in the graveyard. We're elsewhere they have been. They were all in the graveyard. And so these kids, they're just like greedy little monsters out there just filling up their baskets way to the top.

And so Silas, of course, went out there, filled his basket way to the top. So we come home, we have so many plastic Easter eggs all over our house. Silas and May are occupying themselves by opening all of them up. Silas is just like screaming at me from the other room, like, mom, I got another squishy ball, another squishy ball, another squishy ball.

Every single egg, he'd been in one section. And clearly they'd been bought from like, Oriental Trading or something. They're not filled with candy. He probably had like 30 plastic eggs that were filled with neon green squishy balls. So now we just have a living room filled with plastic eggs, neon green squishy balls, like fake little plastic rabbits, and variety of candy that is for

sure a choking hazard and is someone's going to the ER soon. And that's me with one of my children. And I don't know, it was really overwhelming. And I feel like I'm like, I need to just vacuum up my entire house. And I feel complicit in some kind of, you know, capitalistic greed. I feel complicit in some kind of like, you know, I just don't know if it's real. I just don't really know. It's the same thing with Christmas. It's like, what are, what are these two things that are merging? You know, what lessons are really teaching here?

What's really getting across the squishy balls, the resurrection of Christ? I don't know. They're connected. It's one of the, yeah, more disparate holidays in terms of origin to what it has become commercially. But anyway, we made it through and that's, I don't know, that's it. Congratulations, Ann. Thanks. Proud of you. Thank you so much.

I'm going to have a closet filled with squishy balls. I'm gonna just bring them out every year. And what exactly is a squishy ball? Okay, so they're neon green and they have like little squishy, like tentacles that come out of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a squish ball.

When you squeeze it, do they go, like they go like wide? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. Got it. So I have a lot of those. If anyone wants one, I can mail one to you. Great. And that's it, Emily. Tell me about So I have a lot of those. If anyone wants one, I can mail one to you.

And that's it, Emily. Tell me about you. Tell me about your week. Well, I guess the thing that's happening this week are two of our very dearest friends are getting married this week, which is not scary. It's very exciting and wonderful. Except all week, Joel and I have both been in like an absolute panic. Like we feel our stress level being insanely high.

And it was, and we've been talking about it last night. It was like, I'm so stressed out. The wedding's this week. I, like, I got to get, wrap my head around it. And it was only last night and talking to each other that we realized, like, our brains think it's our wedding. Like, we haven't detached out, like, the muscle memory of our bodies are like, well, it's your wedding again. It's not.

It's not. It's not my wedding. No, it's not. It's not my wedding. And I love my wedding, but I keep having to be like, my parents aren't gonna be there. Joel's parents aren't gonna be there. No one's gonna be looking at me.

Like I have to like retrain, like recreate neural pathways around wedding that's like, this is just good and a fun party and it's the celebration and that's everything. Again, love my wedding. So glad I did it. Everything was perfect. But I'm retraining, I'm detaching the stress mechanisms in my brain. I'm glad you guys figured that out.

I feel like that was a breakthrough. You actually had a breakthrough. I feel like it was the realization that we both felt that way, that we were like, oh. Yeah, that's huge. Probably that's what it is. Mm-hmm, I think it is. So. Okay, great.

So great, so it's gonna be fun. I am still stressed. Well, you have to give a speech. I do have to give a speech. Giving a toast at a wedding is like one of the scariest things. It's scary. Like it almost shouldn't be allowed. It's like too much pressure. It's kind of rude. It's a little rude. It was kind of one of the scariest things. It's scary. Like it's, it almost shouldn't be allowed.

It's like too much pressure. It's kind of rude. It's a little rude. It was kind of rude of them to ask. Yeah. It's like, I'm already doing a lot for you going to your wedding, thinking it's my wedding. No, it's going to be great.

I'm very excited. I just need to like lower the stakes in my brain. It's not my wedding. And your speech is going to be wonderful. You guys are, you and Joel, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great, I'm very excited. I'm very excited, but you know,

maybe I'm also pretty keyed up and because I watched this week's movie. I know you did. So I'm in a scary movie state of mind, even though some of you may scoff because this week's movie is maybe not that scary because it's Beetlejuice. Woohoo.

You've heard of it. Not to be confused with Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, which is also a movie, but it's the first one. Just One Beetlejuice came out in 1988, directed by Tim Burton, screenplay by Michael McDowell and Warren Scarin, based on a story by Michael McDowell and Larry Wilson. It's starring Alec Baldwin, Gina Davis,

Jeffrey Jones, Catherine O'Hara, Winona Ryder and Michael Keaton. And we have a guest joining us this week. We are not alone for this journey. We have Emmy award winning actor and co-host of a brand new Head Gum podcast, The Extraordinarians. Welcome to the podcast, The Extraordinarians.

Welcome to the podcast, Tony Hale. Hey. Woo. Yay. The cat goes wild. Man, it was so hard not to respond. I was non-verbally, I've been giving a lot of non-verbal

when you guys were talking. First of all, I didn't know you lived in a church, Henley. I know, I live in a church. Can you believe that? That's so cool. I remember, quick story. When my daughter was little, she was probably maybe your kid's age, and it was around Easter, and we had just been to Easter,

and she was upstairs naming her stuffed animals. And I went upstairs and I said, oh my gosh, tell me the names. And she said, oh, this one's Sally, this one's so-and-so. And she said, and this one's Crucifixion. Crucifixion? And we were like, sorry? And she had heard the story of the Cru crucifixion. Oh, crucifixion? And we were like, sorry? And she had heard the story of the crucifixion at the church and she was like, that sounds like a good name.

And so we called it crucifix for short. Oh, that is glorious. Very sweet. I know. And this was her, well, this was her much little, this is how, speaking of scary, well, this is not a video podcast, but look at this, this is her and I,

look at how scary that bunny is. No. Okay, the scary that bunny is. No. Okay, the Easter bunny is scary. Isn't that terrifying? Wait, okay. We need to describe that bunny for the listeners. Like the eyes are slanted downwards in the most evil expression I've ever seen.

And that is a suit that takes a lot of time to create. Was there anyone in the process, anyone, you know, like checking? This is what I think about the Starbucks cup in Game of Thrones. There were so many people that had to say yes to this suit. And no one- How did we miss that? How did we miss that? How did we miss it?

No one was like, that's a dark bunny, man. Yeah. That's gonna scare the kids. And that's gonna meet children, young children. Yeah, yeah. Also, BTdubs, you have a one-year-old and a three-year-old. I gotta send you a Forky voice memo for them. Oh. Saying their names because they're at the perfect age

where they think Forky is real. And so you can't tell them it's a human. So I'll pass it on and say, hey, this is Forky. So after they see it, if they haven't seen it yet, then you play it for them and they're like, holy shit, Forky just said my name. That would blow their minds. Wait, actually one year, Tim, my husband was Forky for Halloween. I was gonna say, I was like, they shit, Forky just said my name. That would blow their minds. Wait, actually one year, Tim, my husband

was Forky for Halloween. I was gonna say, I was like, they know who Forky is. He was Forky for Halloween. This was before we had kids. This was like when the movie first came out. That's interesting. We walked around LA and he was wearing a Forky costume. It was the most attention I've ever seen anyone

give anyone in my entire life. Like people were running like out of buildings to talk to Forky. It was an iconic character. Oh, he was great. That one and three, that's like the really sweet age where they are all in. So I'm gonna send that to you

and then you have to play it for him. Yay, that makes me so happy. Yeah, it's so fun. Tony, did anything scary happen to you this week? Yeah, I was thinking about mine. Mine was, okay, do you know that time, it's always around three or four in the morning, when the irrational becomes rational.

Yeah, oh yeah. And I woke up and I was convinced my daughter was gonna be abducted from college. No. And it was that fear where, it's the same fear when she was little that someone's in the house and I need to go check her,

I need to go check her room and make sure she's breathing, all that stuff. And it was this irrational fear that just these kind of narratives go in my head. And I was up for a good 45 minutes, just like, speaking of tracking, like I was on the tracking thing just to make sure she was at the dorm.

But it was just this kind of like crazy. But then did your brain go, well maybe her phone's at the door, but maybe she's not. Emily, stop it. I'm sorry. Fully, fully. Maybe the robber put her on airplane mode. You know, it's like all that kind of stuff.

We don't know. They outsmarted me. They can't, because they can't. But I, it is, but you know, like that time of the night, they call, there's a, I don't know if that's the witching hour or something, but there's a word for that time where during the day you're like, what the hell is my problem?

And at that time, it's very real. Yeah. Very real. I have that 100% for someone kidnapping my children. Like I'm always so scared of that. Is it your daughter's first year away at college? Yeah, she's in college and she's actually, I'm gonna pick her up in a week. We're gonna go pack up her stuff and bring her back.

Wow. She's having a great time. She's having a great time. I actually, that night I did check it, but I have not been on that tracking app because it makes me too crazy. My wife will check it. Yeah.

But my narratives in my head just go to, I don't wanna know. I trust her and there's a little bit of a gift of out of sight, out of mind. Because when she was home, I was like, be careful, be careful, be careful. Now that I don't know what she's doing, I'm like, it's kind of easing my anxiety a little bit.

That's good. It's really, it's like only, I only get nervous about people if I try to contact them and then I don't, it's like, I could have not heard from them for hours and I'm not scared. But the second I'm like, but I only get nervous about people if I try to contact them and then I don't, it's like I could have not heard from them for hours and I'm not scared, but the second I'm like, but I'm supposed to, so it does enter your brain. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, speaking of being scared, are you, how do you feel about horror movies in general? I was waiting for this question. I do not like them at all. I don't even know why they exist. I don't know why we get into a large or dark room and we're scared together because you can watch CNN and be just as freaked out.

I don't understand the concept of generating fear. I generate enough fear on my own. I'm dead serious. I deal with, I mean, I deal with anxiety. I deal with like having to monitor my own fears and bringing reality to them and surrendering them to God and you know, all this stuff. This is a daily practice for me.

Why would I sign up to watch Paranormal Activity when I'm like, I don't wanna watch that. Guess what guys, that shit's real. Don't play with that. Don't push play on that movie. Yeah, so you don't wanna mess with what's out there. I just don't want to, I don't want to be that reminded of what I, I mean, there is a dark side to this world.

So why am I wanting to entertain myself by watching a sheet float off somebody and there's nobody there? You know, it's like, I don't want to do that. I'm already, there's already, I'm not a fan also of being, this is getting into all my stuff. I've always been freaked out by, I kinda always had that fear growing up, oh, someone's outside staring at me through the window.

Oh yeah, did you grow up with big sliding glass doors? Yeah, all of it. Nightmare. And so, but some people can see these movies and walk away and be like, oh, that was fun. I walk away and think, someone's after me and my family, and I need to protect my family what I just saw It's real. It's real. It's in your house

Especially when it gets a little too into now great And I don't think some like dinosaurs gonna come into my house and you know maul me But when it gets into like paranormal stuff or like someone walking around with a chainsaw I don't know guys. There's some crazy shit in the world, so why am I entertaining myself that way? Anyways, I get on a bit of a soapbox. You are speaking my language, you are speaking my language. Okay, so often, I would say 95% of the time, guests that come on love horror movies, and so they're defending them,

they're talking about why they love them, and it is a breath of fresh air for me to hear someone from the other side of the aisle. Because I agree, I mean, this has been obviously like, some kind of intense therapy I've been going through weekly with horror movies because now I've heard about every single one of them. And I tested it in real life.

Exposure therapy. By moving into a church with small children. A church and a graveyard. That was, the house is built in 1861. And a little girl ghost. And well, I mean, that's not, I mean, we don't know about the little. Well.

I don't know. But even if there's not one, don't think I wouldn't hear that little girl's voice at three in the morning. I'm not saying she's a bad little girl ghost. I'm just saying she's a bad little girl ghost. I'm just saying she's there. She needs help. Yeah, and so I've lived it and I, nothing so far.

We've been okay, we've been safe. Yeah, sure. No, I hear you. Listen, I hear you loud and clear. Your support group is here. Thank you. I need it. Loud and clear, your support group is here. Thank you. I need it. That is tough.

Tony, did you ever, like, I feel like we all, most people have some sort of, you were forced to watch it. Trauma. Yeah, trauma. You're forced to watch a scary movie or you saw a commercial or something. Do you have those memories from childhood? Well, there's a couple of topics I'd like to hit on.

Okay, great, please. The floor is yours. Thank you. One is I think I am probably that highly sensitive, there's like a label like a highly sensitive personality, I don't know what it's called, but when I, I mean I barely can watch the office and not leave the room sometimes because it's like, you're cringing. It makes me awkward. There's a part of me that's like, fire the guy. Why is he still working there? You know, it's like, I get to that place and my wife's like, you're an actor, why can't you? But there's a big difference in performing it and watching it. Because here's the thing, like she loves the Handmaid's Tale, she loves all that kind of stuff.

I'm watching that. And yes, I know that story is not happening, but I know something like that has happened in the world. Someone's child has been abducted. Someone has. So I'm watching something play out that maybe that story hasn't happened, but something like that has happened.

So all the emotions get clicked in me. You know? But there was something else. I had a second point. It might come back to me, but I forgot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so tell us about the movie. Okay, you're wearing a hat right now.

It says sketch. Oh, yeah, this is my movie. Yes. And tell us, because I watched the trailer for it, and it feels like it's a scary movie a little bit. So talk to us about. This is a totally shameless promotion of me wearing my hat.

OK, so this is a movie we've been trying to get made for like seven years. It's a real passion project. I'm so stoked about it. It comes out August 6. It's, I wouldn't say, I's a real passion project. I'm so stoked about it, comes out August 6th. It's, I wouldn't say, I don't think it is, I don't think it's a scary movie because it's about a little girl

who's dealing with her grief and she draws these really dark pictures and they come to life. So we kind of describe it like Inside Out meets Jurassic Park. And it's just so beautifully done. It's really just very, very powerful and super funny. So it doesn't, it doesn't have,

to me it doesn't put in the category. It's more of like a Spielberg kind of like, I would say like a, it's not Goonies like in terms of story, but just that kind of like fun, adventurous, but really, really beautiful. Yeah. I love that. And also dealing with grief.

I think that's one thing that is so powerful when you can see it on screen. And that's one reason why I have come to, like, really enjoy horror movies specifically, because they can handle big emotions in a way that's, like, clarifying or, like, cathartic, I guess, but... It's the cathartic part that I don't fully get.

Right. I'm sure it is, but when I walk away in absolute terror and I can't forget about it for two weeks and everybody else is like, let's go to Capizzo. I'm like, no, I'm still thinking about the guy in the ax that we saw on the big screen. It's not a release. It deepens. It's not a release.

Deepens the fear. I do. Thank you. It concretes the fear. It doesn't help it. So's not a release. Deepens the fear. I do. Thank you. It concretes the fear. It doesn't help it. So I'm still there, you know? Yeah. That's fair. It's fair.

It's a different personality type, I think. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. And look, look, I'll just say too, one of my biggest, it's not even one of my biggest fears, it's just the thing I have the hardest time seeing or hearing about,

which has been a real challenge for this podcast, is loss of limb. Loss of limb is very tough for me. And I just have to say, spoiler alert for a show that came out a long, long, long time ago, I don't like when Buster Blue loses his hand. I hate it, I hate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And let me just affirm you, it's okay to say you don't like when you see someone de-limbed. Thank you. Thank you. That isn't, that's an understandable feeling. Thank you so much. I completely affirm you in that. That's not something, we're not talking a Hallmark movie.

We're talking about watching somebody lose, and by the way, not just lose a limb, but when Michael comes over and takes a chainsaw or whatever he does with his mask and cuts it off their body. That's not something I want to see. It's Mike or Michael? Mike. It's Michael. I think it's Michael.

BT Dubs? Never saw it. Mike Myers is an actor. Michael Myers is a murderer. Is the murderer. Yeah. Don't get him twisted. Don't get him twisted. I haven't seen any of them.

I haven't never seen any of them. The last horror movie I saw was Nightmare on the Street. And it was, and maybe it was because it got into the dreams and it got into like when you thought we were in your peaceful place. You're not safe, you're never safe. You're never safe. And my brother put on a hand, put on a nail hand,

and came into my room and traumatized me. That son of a bitch. Well, he made it real. That son of a bitch. Well, he made it real. That son of a bitch. He did make it real. He made it real. Oh no, so how did you feel when you found out

Buster was gonna lose his hand? Was that tough? Um, it was more, I remember going up to Mitch Hurwitz, the creator, and being like, hey, I got a fun idea. Like, what if Buster's like on Dancing with the Stars? And he said, oh, that's funny, I think I'm gonna have a seal bite off your hand. And I was like, oh.

And I, but it was, the comic abilities, that's all that I kind of kept focusing on was like, wow, that's really fun, the fact that he likes to massage people and now he's gonna make them bleed. And you know, it was like, that was, the possibilities were so fun. But I remember, I do distinctly remember like, oh, I like using my hands with comedy, you know?

I'm used to it. Dancing with the Stars is gonna be so much harder with a hook. And a hook, and by the way, not just a hook, then the last season I had like a huge hand, I had all these different attachments. There was one time this prop person came up and just put this almost like what they use

in medical school where it looks like something like a model doctor hand. And I turned him and I said, why am I wearing this? And the props guy goes, I don't know, man, just go with it. Like no one knew what was going on. I don't know, man. I was told to make a big hand, I just didn't. Let me do my job.

I know. That's really cool. Okay. Yeah, it didn't. Let me do my job. I know. That's really cool. Okay. Yeah, it was fun. Well, so this movie. Yes. Beetlejuice. Yeah. What is your relationship to this movie?

Okay, so this, it had been so long since I've seen this movie that I thought, have I seen this movie? Cause I think it was 89. Yeah, 88. It came out, 88. And I was graduating high school, was not a big movie goer when I was a kid. So then I thought, did I see this?

But then as I was watching, I was like, no, I have seen this. But man, just a lot I missed. And I mean, I'm a huge, huge Catherine O'Hara fan. Same. I mean, she is, she's royalty to me. She's up there with Lucia Ball. Like she's just absolute royalty. So I just was really stoked to watch this. And obviously Michael Keaton and all that,

very different from Michael Keaton. The whole time I'm like, God, that was Batman. So it's like really, really, really different. But yeah, I didn't have much of a relationship, but I know I saw it. I just couldn't remember it very well. Yeah. I realized I saw it, I just can remember very well. Yeah, I realized I had never actually seen this movie

all the way through, because I thought this movie was too scary. This movie was too freaky for me. And I think it was less what was actually happening in it and more the idea of conjuring someone by name was too tied in my mind to standing in a mirror and doing the idea of conjuring someone by name was too tied in my mind to standing in a mirror and doing the Bloody Mary thing

that I was like, well, this can't be good. This can't lead anywhere good. And so I built it up into being a much scarier thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we take a really quick side note that I still at nighttime don't wanna look in the mirror? Same. I still will go to the bathroom and if I don't turn the light on, I'm wanna look in the mirror. Same. I still will go to the bathroom

and if I don't turn the light on, I'm not looking in the mirror. Those kind of things that I remember as a kid, like being in the theater, people talking about all that kind of look in the mirror, or even light as a feather, all that stuff, they stick with you. And I still do not look in the mirror to this day.

I will never look at a mirror in a dark room. I don't care what room it is. I will not, I have to turn on the light in the bathroom in the middle of the night. I can't be going to a dark bathroom. Way too scary. Way too scary. Way too scary.

A lot of places for things to be, I don't, okay, but I will say, so we're gonna recap this movie. Yeah, please. I actually did get, a scary thing that happened to me this week was I was taking notes for this recap and it like

dawned on me once again People love this movie. It is a great movie But people have this is one of those movies that people are like, this is my movie Like it's a cult scene a million times. They they know every line. They know every joke Mm-hmm. I just want wanna come out and say right now, guys, I'm gonna let you down. I'm not gonna tell every single joke in this movie. I couldn't possibly.

I'm gonna miss your, somebody listening, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna miss your favorite line. It's gonna happen. Hey, we support you. We love you. We're gonna do our best, you know? And also maybe- I, however, I'm gonna judge you, but I do hear you.

Well, okay. I was gonna say maybe Tony will forget your favorite line, and not me, you know? So don't blame me. It could be Tony's fault. No, I'm not, am going to judge you. Well, OK. I was going to say maybe Tony will forget your favorite line, not me, you know? So don't blame me. It could be Tony's fault. I'm not. I never remember lines. I totally hear you.

So I just need everybody to know going in, we're doing our best, as we always try to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm just, I'm aware of the like special place this movie holds for many people. I am so excited because I'm pretty sure I've never, I don't think, in my brain, if someone said, have you seen Beetlejuice? I would be like, yeah.

But have I? I really don't think I have. I really do not, because I keep thinking it's Edward Scissorhands. I keep thinking that's the movie, and it's not, it's Beetlejuice, but I'm like. Right, that's a different movie. What is?

However, however, good point, because that was one of my points, is Winona Ryder's also in, and she also goes in the attic to find Edward Scissorhands, just like she goes into the attic to find the couple. So there's a lot of parallels. Look at Tim, pretty lazy.

So she's typecast as a person who's going into attics. Or the upside down. She's going up, she's going down. She's going up and going down constantly. Yeah. Okay, good. I'm glad that we're on the same page there. Okay, great.

Yeah, I'll give us a little bit of trivia. Please, please, please. I won't go too long. There's a million trivia points that can be said about this movie, obviously. It's very, very classic, very famous, very dear. It has an 83% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 71 on Metacritic, and a 7.5 on IMDB.

Had a budget of 15 million, box office of 84.6 million. Wow. Dang. They obviously went on to make a sequel very recently, many years later. I think it was 2024, right? That Beetlejuice Beetlejuice came out. So haven't seen it.

Sorry, I will. I'll see it. Little bit of trivia, Michael Keaton came up with much of the character's look himself. He told the makeup department he wanted mold on his face and his hair looking as if he'd stuck his finger in an electric socket. And he requested that the ward of department sent him clothes from all different time periods. Oh, that's cool. I like that note. Yeah, I like that. First Tim Burton movie that won an Oscar, I believe was the makeup department.

Okay, talk about Catherine O'Hara, her character Delia. She has a knack for repurposing clothes to wear. So in one scene, Delia is wearing a red sweater that Charles wore in a previous scene, but she's wearing the sweater as pants. She wears the sweater upside down with her legs in the arm holes and held up around her waist with suspenders.

I would like to try that. At one point, she is wearing a big decorative headband and it's two gloves tied together and like a little bow across her head. Truly incredible stuff. Catherine O'Hara also met her future husband, production designer, Bo Welch, while making this film. Yeah. Love that. I mean, if you're on this film, of course you Bo Welch, while making this film. Yeah. Wow.

Love that. I mean, if you're on this film, of course you're falling in love with Catherine O'Hara. And if you're Catherine O'Hara, if you're anyone on this film, of course you're falling in love with people in the production design department. It's like, everybody's just doing excellent work. Match made in heaven.

Yeah. And then some really unfun trivia that I'm just gonna come out and say, just so we know it and it's said, and we can leave it in the past and not talk about this person much. Through the recap, Jeffrey Jones is a convicted sex offender and so we're just gonna not praise his performance.

I didn't know that. I do think he's a funny guy. I didn't know. He's a funny guy, but that's the last thing we're gonna say. I did not know that. It's pretty tough. Yeah, we talked about him on another podcast

and I feel like we were like, wait a minute, isn't there something? And we had to look it up and yeah, it's not. Yeah, you wouldn't really know it because he is still making movies, but. When you were talking about not seeing the original Beetlejuice and having the fan base, I had the experience of,

I was in the second Hocus Pocus 2 and I had never seen the first Hocus Pocus. Did you ever see it? Did you even see it after you were cast? I did see it, yeah. And I did not, I underestimated the fan base around that film. That's a big one.

And I actually kept my mouth shut that I probably until this moment, I'm saying that I had not. I'm saying that I had not. Just like GMC breaking headline, Tony Hale admits. I had not seen Hocus Pocus One. I seen it, sorry, I saw it before shooting it, but I hadn't seen it ever then before.

And man, those people. Oh, they love it. They really have, they have conventions and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People find, you know, community in all sorts of places. Yeah. It's really true.

And it's the magic of cinema that things resonate in a way that it's like beyond what is necessarily on screen. It's like there's, we're pulling things. That's magical. Yeah. If you get an opportunity to dress up, I mean, absolutely people are going to conventions. Oh yeah, totally. That's so funny.

You were talking about Catherine O'Hara's outfits. It was really interesting to... It was hard not to think about her character in Schitt's Creek because she was always wearing black and white. Moira always wore black and white. And she would have also done something where there was like a glove situation on top of the hair and all that kind of stuff.

Got her wall of wigs. Yeah, her wall of wigs. Oh, she's Greek. There was some similarities. Rich New Yorker moving out of the city. Rich New Yorker, yep, totally. Kind of detached, kind of detached, very detached. Yeah, there's some fun little nuggets there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a perfect performance. Should we watch this trailer and get a little feel for the visual? Yes. Let's do it. From the director of Pee-wee's Big Adventure, Adam and Barbara are ghosts. What's the good of being a ghost

if you can't frighten people away? Their house is being haunted by the living. Maybe the house could use a little remodeling. And they can't scare them into leaving. They're dead. It's a little late to be neurotic. So they're calling on Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice! Who's no ordinary ghost.

You don't want any of this, though. Can you be scary? What do you think of this? Now, the party's over. You put somebody out of the house, I want to get somebody out of your house. But the fun has just begun. It's showtime. Learn to throw your voice, fool your friends, party. Not bad.

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Michael Keaton is Beetlejuice. I'm the ghost with the most babe. That was great. Holy shit. I have never seen this fucking movie. I have no idea what happens in this movie. None of that was familiar to me. None of it. Great. I'm so confused by the concept. They're ghosts, but they're being haunted

by Catherine O'Hara, who's not a ghost. It's a real reversal, Hen. She's, what? Okay. I really thought this was like a movie I'd kind of seen. I never, never, never. This is, when I watched it, I was like, yeah, they've definitely never seen this movie. And I'll tell you, I mean, all time you will get there but I was also like where the hell's Beetlejuice like it

Takes a really long time for us to get to Beetlejuice. It feels like two stories are going on. Yes Beetlejuice is the B-plot Boy, the Beetlejuice is there and it's all about the couple trying to get them out of the house But Beetlejuice doesn't come into probably like, I would say, I mean, you see him like remnants, but it's like 75%. Yeah. Oh my God. We need to get into this because Beetlejuice.

Also like music by Danny Elfman. I just, it's so like Tim Burton. The score is great. And the little creepy Tim Burton characters. Oh my God. I am obsessed. It's also a Broadway musical now. Yeah.

It's also a Broadway musical. Yeah, my friend Carrie Butler was in it. Oh, amazing. Oh, it'd be such a fun show to see. That's a fun show. Bo Welch, also the husband of Catherine here where they met, he also was the production designer on that show series of Unfortunate Events.

Oh, very impressive. Yeah, yeah, you can see a lot of that kind of Tim Burton. Yeah. Influence. Influence. That's fun to be like, my thing is I do spooky stuff, silly spooky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's really good.

Creative, silly, spooky. Yeah. Very unique. Very fun, okay, well, I mean, should we just get into it? Yeah, let's get into it. I think we should. Let's get into it.

Well, first of all, let's start with the fact that what Gina Davis is wearing is what all, I grew up in the South. I promise you that designer of her dress was Laura Ashley. I was gonna say, it's very Laura Ashley. Puffy sleeve, drop waist. Yeah, I went to college in Birmingham, Alabama, and every girl was wearing that dress.

Because it was 1988, 89. Yep. Yeah. Does this take place in Alabama? No, but her dress does. Connecticut, but her dress does. Her dress is straight out of Alabama. Okay, got it, got it.

Yeah. I do love, here's the thing, I love seeing these old movies because it, not to get super meta, but it's when you see all these actors so young, you go, oh man, life is so cyclical. Life is so fleeting. And the anxiety that I put on things is just like,

it really gives you perspective of like Tony. You know, I'm 54 years old. I was just 32. You know, it's fleeting. So don't invest so much of that anxiety into that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's true. That's a great, I was just 32, you know, it's fleeting. So don't invest so much of that anxiety into that kind of stuff. That's true.

That's a great, I like that message that you're taking from it. It is so fun too to see, especially like I hadn't seen this movie, to see actors who I'm so familiar with from a very different stage in their lives. Like the visual, like the memory of Alec Baldwin's face to me is not Alec Baldwin at 32. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's from 30 Rock not Alec Baldwin at 32. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's from 30 Rock. It's from 30 Rock. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's, yeah, it's just really, Catherine O'Hara was 34 in this movie. And it's like, yeah, it's, yeah, it's really very cool to see all of them really like, yeah, in their thirties, very young. Yeah. And you know, the back then, like they were, and they still are, but they were the shit.

Like they were the shit. And then you see how the business is just very cyclical, but when you're in it, you're like, oh this feels so huge So life or death so everything it's like no it it passes. It's fleeting. So like just stay present Yeah, you know, oh, it's so hard to do this. I like Baldwin had no idea that 30 Rock was coming. Yeah Yeah, this Michael Keaton never did Birdman Did you know that 30 Rock was coming? Yeah. This Michael Keaton never did Birdman. You know, it's like, you just never know. Totally, you never do know.

So much ahead of them, yeah. And things are just changing all the time. It's just a reminder that things change and that's okay. But the biggest, speaking of the dark side, the biggest lie of the dark side is that things are not gonna change. Oh, yes. And for some reason, we always believe that,

but we are in a constant state of change. We cannot not change. But that's the lie that we think is true. I just read Parable of the Sword, Not to Get Really Dark by Octavia Butler. And the main character in that believes God is change. That's her whole thing, is that God is change. And that is what we should all remember

and kind of believe in is that God has changed. And that's good. But anyway, let's not talk about that. Let's talk about Beetlejuice. Sure, yeah. And just give me one. Well, I mean one or the other, but maybe Beetlejuice for now.

Yeah. Walk me through the opening scenes. We begin, we begin. We've got our two main characters, neither of whom are Beetlejuice. We've got Adam and Barbara Maitland. This is Gina Davis and Alec Baldwin. I was like, Adam, Adam, Alec Baldwin, obviously.

They are in the attic of their country home, giving each other presents, saying happy vacation. The presents are, he gets like varnish and she gets wallpaper. We learn they're spending their two week vacation redecorating their dream home. They're so excited they're on vacation, they can spend this time together.

They're very in love. There's a cute little scene where someone's at the door or calling on the phone and one of them goes to get it and gets pulled onto the couch and they kiss. The other goes to get it, pull onto the couch, kiss. They're having a great time. Also side note, what's really going on? You know, that's kind of,

that's a nice little Instagram highlight reel. You know they fought 30 minutes before. Show us the real stuff. Someone ate someone else's leftovers. Like there's a whole other story that they never, they never mentioned in the movies. Yeah, things can't be this nice. No, come on.

Well, they're gonna get what's coming to them, so don't you worry. Good. The person who's at the door is Jane. She is trying to get them, she's a real estate agent. She's trying to get them to sell their house because it's too big for them. She wants that commission.

Come on, you got to sell this house. They shoo her away. And I wanted to see more of her. She kind of came and went. Like I thought she was fun. And then all of a sudden she's poof, she's gone. Yeah, she's gone. Don't get too attached in this film.

Don't. Yeah. Do not. There's she's gone. Yeah, she's gone. Don't get too attached in this film. Don't, do not. There's no certainty here. There's no certainty here, which is proven by the fact that the Maitlands then go into town, they're gonna make a little run to the hardware store, get more of the things they need for this redecoration. Side note, did they own the hardware store?

Cause he just grabbed it and then buy it. Well, and it's called Maitlands, the hardware store, and that's their name. Is that their last, Ah, okay, I missed that name, got it. But he's also like leaving the store unattended. I don't know, whatever. It's vacation. And there's a random man outside, a sweet little old man who keeps telling a story

and then never stops. Very fun, yeah, he starts talking to Adam, Adam walks in, the guy keeps telling his story, Adam comes back out. We see a cute little scraggly dog walking down the street. They get what they need from the hardware store, they get back in their car, they're driving back across town,

and who should cross their path with that little scraggly dog? Swerve the car to avoid hitting that dog, slam through the side of this bridge, and are teetering over the edge, just about to fall off this bridge into the ravine below. The only thing stopping them is this little scraggly dog standing on the other end of this plank of wood

that their car is leaning on like a little seesaw. They're looking at that dog, oh, stay there, stay there. He jumps off, seesaw goes, tipped down, car falls into the ravine. Did you, were you, when the first moment you saw that dog, were you like, that's gonna be a part of the story somewhere? Yes.

The first time you saw it. Me too. Isn't that interesting, like, something is so random, cause it really, it wasn't just the dog, it was he was with a man, it was a man, a dog was on the side, and they kind of, and you know, any other time, you'd be like, oh, this is just kind of like a B-roll, where it's like, they're just kind of just the dog, it was he was with a man. It was a man with dogs on the side. And any other time I'd be like, oh, this is just kind of like a B-roll

where it's like, they're just kind of showing this dog. But there's something about like, yeah, that dog's gonna be a part of it. And then I go like, am I just, it's that kind of thing like when you're watching a movie and you're like, I kind of know where this is going, but does everybody else kind of know where this is going? Like what movie angle did they do

to make me highlight that dog? It's like Chekhov's dog, where you're like, well, why would they show me the dog? But like, what is that in our brains that's like looking, you know, yeah, looking for that story piece? We have consumed so much content. I mean, truly like our lives are just nonstop content.

I was selling this because Tim and I just started watching Grant Chester, lol, and I've been predicting the end of every single episode because like I, and it's getting annoying for both of us because I'm like, well, she did it because of X, Y, and Z, and then I'm right. And by the way, you're speaking my language and I'll tell you what, this is why I think we're at, we need a support group because I wonder if this is a part of a highly sensitive, maybe traumatized personality.

Because in every situation, I know I have an outcome for every possible scenario. And this can happen within seconds. And so I know so when I see- It's like a drama detective. It's a drama detective. So when I see a story, I'm like, oh, come on. Is nobody else seeing the obvious here?

And I'm just wondering if that's my own flares. You're protecting yourself being like, it could be this, this, this, this, this, this, yeah. Yes. We don't know where the obvious here. And I'm just wondering if that's my own flares. You're protecting yourself being like, it could be this, this, this, this, this, this, yeah. Yes. We don't know where the exits are. We need to be safe at all times. We need to.

Fully. Yeah, I mean, it can go too far. And I just, I mean, I've been talking about prepping on this podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everyone is saying, Henley, please stop. Please stop talking about that. No one wants to hear about that.

Sure. I would like one of the jams you're gonna make when you're- Yeah. I have so many granola bars in my basement. You wouldn't believe it. That's so good. But a movie like this shows you, you really can't prepare for anything

because I'm pretty sure I would never have expected whatever is about to unfold. The dog bounced off, the dog bounced off, and then they went plummeting into the water. Yep. And then you cut to, they're in the house, I think they're in the house, and you think it's kind of a normal everyday,

them little Hallmark movie, not fighting, da da da da. They step outside the house, and then they're in this kind of weird abyss, space abyss with a large snake nearby. Yeah, like hell desert. Like a hell desert, yeah. And so they go back in the movie, of weird abyss, space abyss with a large snake nearby. Like a hell desert. Like a hell desert, yeah. And so they go back in the movie

and then they find this book that says something like, what to do when you're dying or something like that. Handbook for the recently deceased. Handbook for the recently deceased. And then they start to wake up to the fact that they're dead because they looked in the mirror and they just saw an object they were holding they didn't see their bodies.

Yeah, they show up back at their house thinking, oh, we just got in a little car crash. they're dead because they looked in the mirror and they just saw an object they were holding they didn't see their bodies. Yeah. They show up back at their house thinking, oh, we just got in a little car crash. But yeah, then they end up in a hell desert. Yeah. I think we're dead. Which is a book. Okay.

Yeah. The hell desert happens when they try to leave the house. Like, so they're realizing we're ghosts, we're trapped in our house. Yeah. Okay. They can't leave. Got it. Do they read the handbook?

They start to read the handbook, but it's very confusing or they're not very smart. It's one of the two because everybody else seems to have a decent time with the handbook and they like cannot fathom. They're like, it's like, it's all Greek to them, you know, can't read this handbook. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then they said something about draw a square on the wall. And this is the next thing you do. So they draw a square and a door opens. And then they go to this kind of like hell waiting room with a bunch of like characters right out of like Star Trek.

One has like a tiny head, one has like burnt alive. But the kind of thing you'd see at like a bad haunted house. Like it's just kind of super odd. And they're waiting their turn, I guess, to get their case evaluated. Yeah, it's like, it's like hell's... By the way, Beetlejuice is nowhere to be seen. Yeah, we got no Beetlejuice. This is all just about them negotiating what's going... They're

like, we don't understand the rules here. It's like a DMV. It's like a DMV. It's like a DMV, yeah. They're waiting their turn to go see somebody who can tell them what's up because they've learned their house has been sold. So they're no longer, they are stuck in their house, but now they're not alone in their house.

And they're very frustrated by this. Like, what are we supposed to do? It's also worth noting, we learned at the beginning that Adam is building like a little model town. He's got the whole town built as like a little model and that's up in the attic. And so, yeah, they're trying to figure out, they're trying to read this handbook, it's very confusing.

What are we supposed to do? These people start moving into their house. And I still don't really know exactly what the DMV situation was for. Like what would be the outcome of that? Like were they trying to get out of, were they trying to die and not be in this kind of shield? Like I don't really know what the situation was.

I think they were just, yeah, I think they were just looking for answers. What are we supposed to do? What are we supposed to do? What do we do here? Because, oh, so the people start moving in and it's the Dietz family. Yep, yep, yep.

Delia Dietz, Catherine O'Hara, a New Yorker who is horrified by this country home. She's an artist. She's an artist, she's a sculptor, a really terrible sculptor. Terrible an artist. She's an artist, she's a sculptor, a really terrible sculptor. Terrible sculptor. Her husband Charles and Charles' daughter Lydia, she's a known writer.

Who's very, we know the image of her in this movie, very gothy, big black hat, funny little wispy triangle bangs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Always with her camera taking pictures of things. Another side note, this kind of movie would never be made today No, if it was because what you don't see is you see a lot of horror porn You see a lot of the crazy heart you don't see horror comedy unless I'm completely mistaken Not a ton of those in general are a tough sell to accept for Hocus Pocus

And that was on but that's but that's already an IP like Beetlejuice Mm-hmm, but original horror comedy an IP like Beetlejuice. But original horror comedy, unless I'm mistaken, I can't think of many. They're not that many. We did, there's some that are like the blackening or more like modern day, like spoofy type of horror comedies. And they lean more horror than comedy, I think too.

Like Cabin in the Woods is like more horror than comedy. And also I think what's unique about this is it's such original art. It's such an original vision. And you don't really see an original visual thing anymore. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, yeah, every movie's a Marvel movie now. That's right, because the last one I can think of

is kind of like a parody of horror movies, like the scary movie franchise. Right, yeah. Exactly, yeah. That's usually, because the last one I can think of is kind of like a parody of horror movies, like the scary movie franchise. Right, yeah. Exactly, yeah. That's usually what you see. Somebody do it. Oh, Lisa Frankenstein as one that happened recently that people really liked.

I never saw Lisa Frankenstein, but people really did like that movie. Oh, I didn't see it either. Didn't Diablo Cody write that? Yeah. I think so. Yes, yes. People liked that one, but I don't, yeah, you're right.

That doesn't happen anymore. Yeah, because it's really, it's like spooky, creepy, fun, yes. People liked that one, but I don't, yeah, you're right. That doesn't happen. Yeah, because it's really, it's like spooky, creepy, fun, silly. Yeah, very silly, very silly. And it's like very intentionally, I read that Tim Burton really wanted it to feel very like a B movie. Like the effects are like meant to look kind of corny in a very intentional way. Yeah, oh yeah, very, and that's obvious. Especially like the snake when you see the snake for the first way. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Very, very. And that's obvious, especially like the snake, when you see the snake for the first time. Yeah. So the Deets are moving in.

And in their moving in process, because Delia hates this country home, she has her interior decorator, Otho, come over from New York with her. And they're like, they're going to tear down everything. He's hilarious, by the way. Yeah. They're taking off the wallpaper, like knocking stuff down.

So the Maitlands are very distressed by this because this is their dream home that they never fought over once. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so this is like really their worst nightmare. So yeah, they go to the DMV, their caseworker basically tells them, You need to scare them away.

You need to scare them away like your, if I can figure it out. And they did mention in their handbook at one point, a little flyer fell out. This is our first little Beetlejuice mention. A little flyer falls out. That is like an advertisement for Beetlejuice. And it says, but his name is spelled B-E-T-E-L-G-E-U-S-E. So they're like, Beetlegeuse, Betelgoose?

They don't know how to say it, but they're like the bioexorcist, but they don't really know what that means. So they ask her, they're like, what about this Beetlejuice guy? Yeah. And she tells them, she says, don't call Beetlejuice. That would be a terrible idea.

If you were to call Beetlejuice, here's exactly how you do it, but don't do it. Which I do love in a movie. She's like, you can only summon him by saying his name three times, but he's only trouble. You don't want him around. Scare them yourselves.

Your ghosts figure it out. And they, I did think that designer was very, very funny. Very funny. I had not, I don't, I can't remember a lot. I mean, people are gonna, I'm sure in the comments you're gonna say, I don't remember a lot of what he's done, but he was very, very funny. He was very funny.

Yeah, his name is Otho and he's like, the New York interior decor is like very snobbish, but he also does have some sort of connection to the paranormal. Yeah, he does. Like as they're walking through the house, the Maitlands are trying to spook them by like, it's a very fun sequence where Otho and Delia

are like going through and exploring the house and they like open a closet and inside the closet are the Maitlands standing there like hanging themselves trying to scare them and they gasp and they're like, oh, the closet space is so small. And I guess they can't see them. So then they put a sheet over themselves to, which brought some insight into why people do think ghosts look like that.

Like that's what, that's the only thing that people would see that I never thought about that. It's like the thing in, is it the first conjuring where yeah, there's like a sheet that it flies over somebody and you see the form, but then the sheet goes away and it's not. I never made that connection. Yeah.

I never made that connection. But that's the deal. It's like it's out, which is also like, why? But I don't, you know, whatever. I don't really need to do it. But yeah, they try to spook everybody by wearing sheets. Yeah. And then they start redesigning the house into like a really bad Z Gallery mall, just

like situation that is just, yeah. They paint all the walls with like texture granite paint. It like looks like, like spirit Halloween gravestones, but that's like what all the walls are. Totally. And the dining room table and the chairs, it's all that. Everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like Kim Kardashian's house, sorry. It's like dark, spooky Kim Kardashian's house, yeah. If it was made out of styrofoam, gray styrofoam. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, yeah. I am feeling Moira Rose a little bit in this character. It's very Moira Rose.

She's amazing. They have a dinner, a family dinner one night and they're eating takeout. And she says, wait, I wrote this down. She says, I can't believe we're eating Cantonese. Was there no Szechuan? It's very Moira Rose. It's very Moira Rose, yeah.'s very Moirero's, yeah.

And that's when she has the two gloves around her head, like a little fun little headband. Yeah. Yeah. But when they're wearing their sheets and trying to spook everybody, Lydia is taking pictures and she takes a picture of them, sees that there's no feet and realizes they're ghosts.

Yeah. They take the sheets off and Lydia can see them. Yeah. And it's because she stumbled upon and read the handbook for the recently deceased. And I think she has like a special gift. Like she sees into that stuff. Yeah, she sees into that stuff.

And there's a line that they're like, how can you see us? And she says, well, the book says that the living are, it's hard for them to see things that are strange and unusual, but I myself am strange and unusual, which I feel like is like a line that is often. It's very much like we are the weirdos, mister, whatever from the craft.

Anyway. Another thought, this reminds, okay, so they're going around ghosts trying to scare people and it's not scaring people and all that. It reminds me of those videos on YouTube, you know, where the wife or husband will put a doll or a scary thing in the bed next to them, and then they wake up and lose their minds.

Do you know what I'm talking about? Those scare videos. I cannot tell you the stroke that I would have, if my wife did, first of all, we would have to dive into therapy if she ever did that to me. Do not scare me. Do not scare me. Do not scare me.

But these couples and these people think this is hilarious putting like one of those terrifying dolls in the corner and then they walk in and say, or a giant spider, ha ha ha ha. I would be traumatized. Me too. I just, I don't understand it. It is so terrifying to me.

This is the whole thing with pranks. Yeah, if you're on this podcast, we do not support pranks. We do not support pranking. I don't support them at all. Pranks are mean. I mean, you're really, you don't know who you're messing with because everybody's got their shit.

And I would be, I think I would just pass out. I think I would just hit the floor and then they would go, oh, we've given him a cardiac arrest. Your heart would stop. My heart would stop. Because every fear that I've already thought about is coming true in that moment. Exactly.

And it would hit me like a rock. And this very, I get really wrapped up in it's very like, well, you don't want to be a boy who cried wolf, right? Like what if you're pranking somebody, but then it's like, oh, guess what? This is real, but now you think it's a big joke. Yeah. Right. Because you've been doing this prank. Yeah. Right. Right.

It's a perfect opportunity for a demon to come in and fuck with you. Right. Pranks just give an opening to a demon. That's what pranks do. Absolutely. Let me tell you right now, it's a portal. But have you seen those YouTube's in like in parking garages and all of a sudden some of them was walking in the parking and then like these clowns come out with axes and start chasing after them.

What are these YouTube videos, Tony? No, I've seen these, and it always has this scary music. I would full on, I would tell them to arrest them. I would press charges, 100%. Wait, so someone's in a parking garage, and then over the horizon, they see like an army of clowns. But it's always this, it's always this thing. And someone, it's either a parking garage or like over this,

like it's a dark bridge, no one's around. And then you see these terrifying clowns come around with axes, and someone's filming it, and they are obviously losing their shit, and are running from it, because they're thinking they're gonna die. And then, ha ha ha, it's a movie. Notice, they never show the people after they find out, they just show the terror.

I mean, I would be fully like 911. Yeah, they're going to jail. Yeah, and I think you should send them to jail. I'm crying, that should be illegal if it's not. If it's not, it should be. Any of those scare videos put in Clowns Parking Garage, it's terrifying. No, I'm not looking at that.

I'm not looking at that. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not looking at that. It's in my brain now, it's in my brain, and I got it right here. There was a show called Scare Tactics, I think that they used to have. Or something scare,

and they used to do these horrendous things. By the way, I love that I won't see scary movies, but I've seen them on YouTube. I was supposed to say that's a big scare. I'm not supposed to be looking up scary. That's a big scare. Right? Like, I'm okay with scary movies for other people.

I'm okay with them existing. I don't have the anger or the issue with them that you guys take, which is fair and is valid. But what I do think should be straight up illegal is those haunted house experiences that people do where you like sign a waiver and they can fucking do, and it's like, that's illegal. That should be illegal activity.

That's- Well also haunted house, just like use my house in middle school. I mean, I already was walking on eggshells, I was running a lot of things. My house growing up, for sure there were ghosts everywhere. There were ghosts riddling the hallways, riddling the stairwell.

Thanks. Sorry, I totally got us off tangent. All right, so sorry. Okay, they've been told how to summon Beetlejuice, but they've been told don't do it. Yeah, but obviously it's the title of the movie, so they're gonna do it, yeah. So they come up with a new plan.

They're like, we gotta try to scare the Dietzes. The Dietzes are gonna have a dinner party that night. They have called some New York friends and gotten them to agree to come and have dinner at their house. So they're like, okay, great. We don't need Beetlejuice. We are going to come up with our own plan. Although, had they talked to Beetlejuice yet?

Oh, that's a good point. I wonder if they had, I think they had talked to Beetlejuice because they wouldn't have been able to do that without Beetlejuice. I think so. So I think they decide they're gonna call Beetlejuice because their sheet tactics not working. They're very distressed.

And I think Barbara's like, let's just try that Beetlejuice guy. She wants to get back to wallpapering. She was very focused on her wallpaper. It was her gift, her vacation gift. Which I'm sure was the Laura Ashley collection because it was all matching. Very much so. And matching her drop waist dresses too, I'm sure was the Laura Ashley collection because it was all matching. Very much so.

I'm matching her drop waist dresses too, I'm sure. I know, it was very much her vibe. This new house, not her vibe. Yeah. So. Can she wallpaper from the afterlife? Is she able to even? She was trying.

She was trying, okay. Yeah, they could like lock doors and stuff. The rules of like what their physical form can and can't do, it's a little unclear. That's fine. We don't need all the answers. And they also brought in for the dinner party that you're talking about some friends.

Yeah. Some friends were there, right? Mm-hmm. But they have to call Beetlejuice first, I think. Yes, yes, yes, yes. To figure out how to do the dinner thing. So they go up in the attic, they say, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.

And they get shrunk down and placed inside the model of the town into the cemetery. That's where Beetlejuice has been living. He's like trapped in the model. So this is the first time we meet Beetlejuice. Yeah, and they go into the grave. Yeah, they go into Beetlejuice's grave. They dig him up.

He pops out. Yeah. I mean, how familiar are you with Beetlejuice's vibe, Ben? From the trailer, I got a good look, I think. Yeah. How would you describe it, Tony? Kind of like, he's half drunk uncle. Yes.

Half kind of- He's drunk uncle, but like also on cocaine. Yeah, full, he's strung out. Full sex addict. Yeah. Oh, a sex addict. He's a pervert. Yeah, he's a big pervert.

But then kind of like the life of the party. Like he has a little bit of like life of the party, pervert, mixed drunk uncle, dark side. He's talking a mile a minute. Mile a minute. But he's like, hey, come on guys, we're friends, we're friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, times like this.

Yeah, come on, come on, come on. And like putting his arm around their shoulders, like come on, come on, come on, let me help you out, let me help you out. And we know it's because Beetlejuice needs to be like released from this, he's like trapped. But he is coming on way too strong, he's freaking him out. They're not liking it.

He keeps grabbing it, Barbara. He immediately kisses her on the mouth. She doesn't like it. Super inappropriate, yeah. Every time he does something, like anytime he like grabs her, there's like radio DJ sound effects that play. Like there's like a, like, ah, ah, ah. It's very silly, very goofy.

Yeah, really goofy. But they're like, oh, actually we don't like him. So Barbara has the smart idea to say, home, home, home. And it takes them out of the model. They're back in their house, Beetlejuice is still. So it's a little Wizard of Oz mixed in with, yeah. But so they're like, we can do this on our own. Beetlejuice has sort of shown them a few tricks

while they were with him, so they're like getting ideas what they could do. They're like, we don't need Beetlejuice. But us, the viewer, we are like, but you did summon Beetlejuice. Like you kind of already did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cat's out of the bag.

Cat's kind of out of the bag. And you should have built this model because clearly you built his house. What were you thinking? You did build his house. Yeah. First of all, I love, Hen, that you haven't seen it and you're hearing this just verbally.

Oh, this is my life. This is my goddamn life. It's a very visual movie. I mean, it's a movie, so there's that, but it is. Wait, so Henley, you never see any of the movies that people see? You don't watch them, you just hear them? Very rarely.

Occasionally, I will watch a movie most of the time. We need to start a support group. Okay. Because that is exactly what I would do. So then I guess he, so then they have this dinner party because her agent is in town for her art agent. Yes, Delia's agent for her sculpture. For her sculptures.

And they're having a dinner party and all this stuff starts happening, which I assume has been orchestrated by Beetlejuice. Yeah, that's pretty confusing because the Maitlands are excited as if they did it, but I'm like, how did they figure out how to do this? But the start of it is there's this dinner party. Lydia tries to tell everybody at the dinner party

that there are ghosts in the house. Delia's like, not having it. She doesn't wanna be embarrassed in front of her friends. But all of a sudden Delia, it's like she looks like she's about to say something and get the attention of the table. And instead out of her mouth comes, Dale. Oh, we said Dale.

Oh my God, that's this movie. That's this movie. That's this movie. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And she's singing it and dancing and performing it huge. But it's as if like the actual song is coming out of her mouth. And at first everyone's like, oh, fun party trick.

She's looking shocked. Why is this happening to me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it starts happening to everyone at the table and they're singing and dancing, but doing a really fun, like really dancing and going for it, but their faces are like, what's happening to me? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then the shrimp cocktail starts, the shrimp cocktail starts eating them. Shrimp cocktail? At the end of the song, they're all eating a shrimp cocktail and at the end of the song, the shrimp cocktail jumps up out of the glass like a hand and pulls their faces down and they fly back

and cut to the Maitlands in the attic who are like, we did it, we scared them. Wait, this is giving the same energy as the scene in Practical Magic when they all start singing, there's a lime in the coconut and then at the end you find out that they're actually also possessed by ghosts.

So I think that there's just some synergy there that I want. Ghost love Calypso. Mm-hmm, yeah. Which was around the same time, I think, as this, right? Wasn't practical magic like late 80s? Yeah, early 90s? It was 1990. I think it was a solid, I think it was 1998.

I think it's a decade later. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. The influence lives on. Mm-hmm. But yeah, the Maitlands are thrilled because they're like, we did it. We scared them. We pulled off a really big scare.

But all the New Yorkers are like, that was so fun. Oh my God, we're gonna make a fortune selling this haunted house experience. They're talking over business plans. They're sitting in the living room thinking, how can we monetize this? Those bastards. Those bastards. Those bastards.

And Winona thought that it was gonna work too. So she was gonna discourage, cause she kinda wants, I don't really know what she wants. She wants- She's a big fan of the Maitlands. They've really bonded. She is, yeah.

She doesn't love Delia. She's just a moody teen, you know? She's a moody teen, but I don't know if she wants her family out. I guess she just wants whatever the couple upstairs want. She's kinda just on their side. She's on their side, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So yeah, so the Deets are like, Lydia, go talk to the ghosts, they're your friends. Get them to come down here and show us what they can do for our big business plan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They won't do it, so the Deets are furious. They storm up into that attic to try to have a word with the Maitlands and the Maitlands hide from them,

but Otho gets his hand on that handbook for the recently deceased. Otho's the designer who has like a skill in magic. Okay. When the paranormal. Yeah, he's got some sort of connection to the paranormal. And then our buddy Beetlejuice, he sees all this happen from inside the model

and he's like, all right, now I'm gonna have some fun. Yeah, yeah. And this is like 70% of the movie is when Beetlejuice is starting. I think I paused the movie at this point and was like, oh, there's 30 minutes left. Like we fully like, we're just now getting to Beetlejuice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now he's just, like, unleashed somehow?

Now he's unleashed, because they summoned him. They called Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Right, but he's still teeny tiny. He's still teeny tiny in the model. No, he gets, he gets big. Well, he turns into a snake. Yeah. So, they all, they're coming down the stairs

back into the house. That's right. And we see, as Delia's walking down the stairs back into the house. That's right. And we see as they're walking, Delia is walking down the stairs with her hand on the banister and we see it turns into a big snake with Beetlejuice's creepy head. Yeah, which is something right out of like

a crazy Chuck E. Cheese. Oh yeah. It's a full animatronic. But he's being, he's still kind of being a little pervert. He kind of like goes between her legs and we're like, we don't love that. That's not good. He throws Oso down the stairs.

He picks Charles up the dad. He throws him down the stairs. Yeah, that was probably the scariest part, I think of the whole movie. If there was a scary part, it was that probably. And they're all acting very scared. Like they are very scared by what is happening. Yeah, yep, yep.

And the Maitlands get summoned back to the DMV because of this by their caseworker, because she's like, you guys have brought Beetlejuice out. You need to handle this. The caseworker is one of my favorite characters. I liked the caseworker a lot. She was great. She talks like this.

She's like, why are you doing this? This is crazy. She's smoking the whole time. And it's clear that she died of lymphozyma because she's got like a hole in her throat that smoke is also coming out of like while she hangs up. She's great. Yeah.

I think her name is Jane, the very like normal. That's what one in the Oscar was that hole on the throat with this. It's very good. The costume. It's very good. All the people at the death DMV. Great. Again, it's a very visual movie, but they Google it.

I want to hear Tony do her voice a little bit more. Can you just do a little bit more? Why would you do this? You shouldn't have done that. Come on now. You shouldn't be, you shouldn't have called Beetlejuice three times. It's over.

That's how she talks. That's perfect. She's a little like the bad lady in Goonies. Oh, yeah. I was also going to say she's kind of like the lady in Monster's Inc. too. I was thinking Monster's Inc. Oh, yeah. Actually, it might have been the same lady. It might have been the same lady. Well, yeah, I was also gonna say she's kind of like the lady in Monsters, Inc. to the like, uh... I was thinking Monsters, Inc.

Oh, yeah. Actually, it might have been the same lady. It might have been the same lady. Well, there's no way to know. Don't you also watch, if this was 88, I see a character like that and I'm like, oh, she's passed. Right, she's died, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, probably. She could have been playing older. No, that would have been, that's really good makeup.

Oscar winning. Right, sure. She did makeup. It's too old. Oscar winning. She did a great job. She did a great job. But so she's like, you need to get your Beetlejuice situation under control. You need to get that handbook back from that guy. Because now they have like proof that goes to real and we don't want that. That's going to fuck all our shit up.

So you need to go back. You need to scare the Deets for real. You need to get them out of your house and you need to handle Beetlejuice. And so she's like, can you be scary? And they're like, yeah, yeah, here, here, look, you can do this. And Alec Baldwin like pulls his nose out to be like a beak.

And then Gina Davis pulls her, she pulls her eyeballs out. She pulls her mouth open to be like a big scary lizard mouth. And puts her eyeballs inside her throat. And the Case Burger lady's like, great, I love it. That's good, that's good. That'll work, that'll work. That's good.

While they've been at the DMV though, Lydia went into the attic and she has started talking to Beetlejuice, little Beetlejuice inside the model. That's right. Because she went up looking for the Maitlands but they weren't there. Beetlejuice seizes the opportunity and he tells her, well, he likes what he sees first of all,

Beetlejuice pervert. This is way pre-Me Too. Yeah, this is. This is way pre-Me Too. It's really inappropriate. She is in this movie, a child. Yeah. But Beetlejuice starts talking to her and is like,

I could help you out. I don't even know like what she presumably wants help with. Oh, she's a moody to her and is like, I could help you out. I don't even know what she presumably wants help with. Oh, she's a moody teen and she wants to be dead. I think she also, she thought something happened to them. I think she was really sad for them and I think she was trying to help them. Because she started to have a real connection with the couple.

Yes, especially Barbara. And I think Beelge is kind of lying to her and saying like, oh, they left, they're not coming back. Yeah. And he's like, if you wanna, I can like help you get to the other side and be dead and cool like me. That's right.

You just like, trust me. And I had to say my name three times and then I'll come and help you out. Yeah. And before she can do that, the Maitlands come back. They take away their scary faces. They tell her it's all gonna be okay. I think she's also written a suicide note

somewhere in there too. Yeah, she wants, yeah, it's dark. Which got really dark. She wants to be dead. Also, and Katherine O'Hara isn't her, it's her stepmom. So what does it mean happen to her mom? Maybe her mom passed or something. So that could be part of it. We don't know.

Could be part of it. Let's get Tim on the line. But the Maitland's tell Lydia, it's okay. Everything's fine. We're not going to try to scare your family anymore. We won't kick them out. We can all like live here together in harmony. But just then, the Dietz is still trying to make that buck, have decided they're gonna force the Maitlands to come and join them by doing a seance. That's right.

And Otho is gonna leave the seance using the book, because he's got that handbook. And this is when it gets super dark. This is when I, I don't know if it's snake dark, but it got pretty dark. It's pretty dark. They laid their wedding outfits on the table, the couple's wedding outfits,

and they started doing the seance and their bodies started to come up, but they started to look like 90, like they were falling apart. Yeah, they like summon them, he summons them into their wedding clothes on the table downstairs, but something about the nature of the seance

starts like actually killing them. They start like withering before their eyes, Barbara and Adam. Lydia's freaking out. She's like, they're dying. They're dying. Save them. There's an investor from New York and his wife here as well for this to get in on the business plan.

Yeah. Yeah. But it gets so bad. They get so scary and withering and dying that even the Dietzes are like, oh, I don't wanna do this anymore. And they try to get Otho to stop the seance. And he's like, I don't know how, sorry, it's too far gone. So the seance is, what was the intention of the seance

to begin with, really? To prove to the investors that there were ghosts there so that they could have their big money-making adventure. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then it went really awry. It goes really awry, as it often does when you mess with these sorts of things.

Thank you, let's bring it back. And then we'll call her Winona, if anybody's, so then Winona runs upstairs because she's trying to save her friends. And she goes to Beetlejuice and she says, "'Help me, help me, help me.'" And he says, "'I'll help you if you marry me. Oh.

Yeah. Because I guess that's part of his curse is he can be released from his curse if he gets married. Is this a story about bachelorhood somehow? Somehow. And perversion. Yeah. And the saving powers of a wife.

Yeah. Yeah. Of a child bride. Of a child bride wife. Exactly, a child bride. And so then she agrees to it, right? Yeah, she's desperate. And she's also a child,

so she doesn't really understand the stakes of this choice. Yeah, yeah. And so then he comes alive, and then he pops up while they're disintegrating in their broken selves. He pops up like a, you saw this in the trailer, like a circus kind of a Ferris wheel. Yeah, he's got like a carousel hat, a really fun hat.

Yeah, yeah. This was really cool. This was cool. The investors come into the room, they hear this commotion and they're like, oh, this is so cool, another crazy little ghost. Yeah. And they are not realizing that behind them,

Beetlejuice is materializing that thing at a fair that's like you hit the mallet on it tells you how strong you are you know yeah good job Bo Welch this was cool all this is cool but this is cool this is very cool Bo this is maybe what got you this is what got you yeah your wife Hera his hands his arms become mallets and they unfurl and he bangs down on that strong man thing and the investors shoot up through the ceiling

and we never see them again. They never come back down. That worked. They're clearly dead. Amazing. They never come back down. Oh, we should mention too, because I think someone's gonna be upset

that we never said this line in the whole time. When Beelah Juice appears, he does say, it's show time. It's show time, yeah. And it was a show. And it was a show. And that's kind of his whole deal is, it's show time, the juice is loose,

you know, that kind of stuff. And so he's really just making chaos happen. He's not a friend to anyone here, Beetlejuice. We can't count on him. We should have known. No, I know. He's really just out to marry Lydia. And so he summons a little ghoul officiant from the DMV.

Yeah. And they start the wedding ceremony. And I still don't know how... So before she obviously gets to the place of saying, I do, Yes. How did they come back to life? So, okay, here's what I think happened, and I'm going to be wrong, and someone is going to be mad at me. So the Maitlands come back to life, they stop being ghosts?

Somehow. No, like they came back from, like, because they were decaying. Oh, they were decaying, they came back. I think it's maybe that the seance was interrupted by Beetlejuice. Like, maybe like the spell broke. He might've broken the spell because they're back to their regular faces. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Also, don't they kind of want to die? Like I'm confused, like don't you want to die in a way? Do you know what I mean? I guess they don't really know what's going to happen after you disintegrate. Yeah, I mean, I think they're happy with their- Their country house. They really care about Lydia.

They do say at one point, like Barbara's like, I want to like live out my life or my death with Lydia. They've gone really fond of her. Of Lydia, yeah. It's very sweet. Yeah, yeah, Winona. But so Beetlejuice is trying to make this wedding happen. Yeah.

Barbara and Adam are trying to stop it by, I think if they say Beetlejuice three times, they can at least put him back into the model. Every time they try to say Beetlejuice, he, they can at least put him back into the model. Every time they try to say Beetlejuice, he magics something, he like, you know, seals their mouth shut, very like Matrix style, you know, when his mouth gets like turned into full skin. They can't say Beetlejuice, they can't say it.

And the wedding is, it's so close, it's so close they're about to be pronounced husband and wife. There's nothing anybody can do. When Barbara gets the right idea to exit the house, plop herself into the hell desert where there's big sand worms. Yeah, yeah. And she gets, she, Chalamet style rides that sand worm,

rides it in back into the house and the sand worm chomps down on Beetlejuice, descends back into hell desert. Takes him to hell. Taking Beetlejuice with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Yeah.

Yeah, and then they, we don't hear about the parents. Parents are out of the picture. Basically, yeah. And then all of a sudden it's just the ghosts are living with what feels like Lydia. Yeah, it's like we kind of cut to like, I don't know, days, weeks, months later. So Catherine O'Hara's just gone,

she moved back to New York. See them very briefly, they're kind of just up in the house like doing their own thing because- Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. But Barbara and Adam are like being parents to Lydia. Being parents and she's all of a sudden in like what looks like Matilda boarding school.

Uh-huh. And like a really sweet little kind of boarding school and comes home. Like rides her little bike home. Bike home. And then talking about how her math test went really well. Oh, the house looks like it did before again. The house has been turned back into Laura Ashley style

dream cottage home. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Lydia comes home. she tells the Maitlands, she got her test scores back. They're like, what'd you get on your math test? She sort of says like, oh, and doesn't tell them for a second and Adam's like, we studied for that all weekend. And then she reveals, I got an A.

They celebrate, they're a happy little family. And she starts flying. Yeah, she says, she doesn't say what it is, but she's like, you promised, like a celebration, if I get an A, we can do it. And she starts, she opens her mouth, and what comes out is, shake, shake, shake, Sonora,

da, da, da, da, da, da, work, work. And she starts flying and dancing, and they're all just dancing to shake Sonora. And that's the end of the movie. And that's it. So, Hen, having heard that, do you, what is your immediate thought? My immediate thought is like,

what substances were being consumed during writing of the script? Because- I mean a lot, it was the late 80s. Clearly that I am feeling- That's true, it is kind of an acid trip. I mean it's a big acid trip. I'm feeling inspired to listen to that song. I also was like really being reminded

of so many other movies too, like the Dune reference, like the, made me think of Tremors. Sure were. Like what are we, what was taken from Beetlejuice? I am shocked. I had no idea what this movie was about. I think that's the main thing, is that I like literally didn't know the plot of this movie. Well, and if you were gonna guess,

you'd probably guess it'd be mainly about a guy named Beetlejuice. Yeah. Who was the B plot. He was very much the B plot. And look, Beetlejuice, he's got star power. Like that's the character you wanna, you name your movie after him,

but he's not the star of the movie. Right. No. And he's incredible in it. I mean, I would have liked to see more Beetlejuice, but it was clearly a catchy name and they made it the name of the movie, but he's definitely the B plot. Yeah.

Interesting. Yeah. How did you feel? So Tony, you watched the movie, you turned it off. What, how are your spirits afterwards? Your spirits high, your spirits low? You know, it didn't scare me. Yep.

That's what I liked about it. I didn't have like, you know, nightmares of snakes or anything like that. I didn't, which if I had watched The Conjuring, if I had watched anything else, I would have not slept. Yeah. I did think of another movie, I take that back, it's not Nightmare on Elm Street.

The last scary movie I saw was Sixth Sense. That was the last scary movie I saw. That was scary. Really scary. Yeah. And that stuck with me, but this did not stick with me. It was a fun ride. It was very much in the genre of like a hocus pocus,

you know, real silly, silly scares. Yeah. I wanna see it, I'm curious. Like a fun Halloween movie, you know, real silly, silly scares. Yeah. I wanna see it, I'm curious. Like a fun Halloween movie, you know, which is a kind of movie I want more of. Yeah. Yeah, a fun Halloween movie. And I love Gina Davis especially.

Love Gina Davis. She's amazing. Yeah, she's great. Fabulous hair in this movie, perfect 80s curls. Really like a nostalgic film, I think. Very nostalgic. It's comforting, other than the child marriage nostalgic film, I think. Very nostalgic. It's comforting, other than the child marriage. Yeah, the child marriage was dark.

I'd be curious what they did with the sequel. Yeah. Yeah, Beeljuice, Beeljuice. Yeah, it definitely made me wanna watch the sequel. I have had Calypso stuck in my head for days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Catchy song, catchy song. Ooh, that's a fun song.

I'm gonna play that later and dance around my living room with the children, and I can't wait. So when you guys go over other movies and someone's describing them, do you feel, Hen, the terror when they're describing stuff? Or is it, how do you, are you experiencing it when they're talking about it? Or is it mainly the visual that kind of throws you

to a different realm? Well, you know what it is with the reason I'm, it's so complicated, the nuances. I would say with horror films, the thing that really scares me that I don't want to see is actually just like the filmmaking in general. So it's like the pacing, it's the soundtrack. The tension. Tension, it's the soundtrack. The tension.

Tension, it's yeah, the sound editing, all of that. And like the lighting, that I just, so hearing it is often easier. That being said, not always the case. Sometimes hearing it is actually scarier than watching it. Because sometimes just the description is very scary. Ever since I became a mom, stuff about kids is way harder for me to hear. And that Ever since I became a mom, stuff about kids

is way harder for me to hear. And that is, I can almost handle, I can handle like a lot of scary movies now and they don't really bother me that much. But anything that's involving kids and a lot of horror movies do involve kids. They really do, gratuitously so one might say. Yeah, and those are now really,

those are definitely more challenging for me. And I get actually mad. I get like furious and mad. Absolutely. I would like to, if you guys will have me on at some other time, I would like to just listen to one of, like maybe Hen and I can listen to one of your plots.

Cause I don't like the visuals, I don't like the music. But I'd be curious how I would react to just hearing the plot. Yeah. That's step two of the support group. Come back, please. That's the next phase, yeah. Because it is, it really does depend,

it's a very different experience hearing about something and watching it, and we all have different and sometimes surprising reactions to things. I find it's also when there's one, when there's like a horror movie that's in the zeitgeist that everyone's talking about, you need to come back for one of those because then you don't have to see it. Then you get in on the conversation. Then you get in on the combo. You know what's going on.

What was the most recent one that was, oh, Long Legs? Is that one? Yep, we did Long Legs. We did Long Legs. Like Barbarian was a big one that was like, we have to know. See, I would say like Henley is a beginner. I am an intermediate. I can do some, not all. Sammy, our third co-host.

Double black diamond expert. Yeah, she'll do it all. Like she's not fazed by it at all. She's fazed by it, but not traumatized by it. She can like do it. She also seeks it out. Like she likes it. She likes it. She seeks it out. Yeah, she likes it. She likes it. She seeks it out.

Yeah, she likes it. She'll be zooming around a room after the most horrifying thing. She just loves it. She gets amped. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I would really like to just listen at some point.

I think that would be fun. Great. It is fun. And interesting. And interesting. Wait, Tony, can you tell us more about the extraordinarians and what it's about? And I think that this is an amazing concept, so please tell our listeners.

Thank you for asking. So Kristen, Shaw, Matt, Oberg and I are doing a podcast called The Extraordinarians, where we are interviewing people doing extraordinary things that we would never do. One, actually, I think there must be a Guinness record out there for the people who, someone who has watched the most horror movies. There has to be. I think that's a good, I think that's, I'm gonna research that,

because I would be really fascinated to talk to them. I wonder if it could be Sammy. I wonder if Sammy even has the potential, because Sammy watched so many horror movies. Yeah, and I would like to talk to them, like how they detach. But like, for instance, we talked to a guy who slack lined between two hot air balloons.

Oh my God. And like, you know, like what, how does he handle that? We talked about a guy who did the most summer salts off a trampoline. We talked about someone who won the pun competition. Guinness Records for had the most puns like in the world. And just to kind of like find out what makes them tick and why they did it and how, what part of their brain

they had to compartmentalize to like be, you know, how many thousands of square feet in the air and just walk across high air balloons and sometimes not with a safety rope. So like you're pretty much signing up for death is today my last day. Yeah. And how do you kind of engage yourself?

And so it's really, and Kristen Schall is so funny. Matt Oberberg is so funny. So we have a great time talking to him. Wow. That's awesome. Yeah, that's fascinating. Is it mostly like record? funny. So we have a great time talking to them. Wow. That's awesome. Yeah, that's fascinating. Is it mostly like record? Is it like Guinness?

It's a lot of Guinness, and it's a lot of people just doing just really crazy wild things that, like one guy, how many toothpicks he put in his beard. He had like, I think like 600 toothpicks put all in his beard and how he arranged it and why he did it. And he has all these trophies. Wow.

You know, it's just kind of, yeah, really like kind of looking behind the curtain of like some really interesting people. Yeah, I love this. I love to be reminded of how many different ways one can live a life. Yeah. Right. Yeah, and like keyed in on a certain thing,

like getting hyper-focused on a certain thing and just being super passionate about it. And not just that, like conventions for these kinds of things. The world is huge. There's the whole community. So it's been really, really fun. And like you guys, if anything,

it's just fun to hang out with my friends and laugh and really fun. Those are always the best podcasts to listen to, not to like toot our own horn, but that's, I mean, it's just like, we're just friends and we're just hanging out, we just like chatting and hanging out with each other. And like those are the podcasts I love listening to.

I just wanna hang out. I just wanna. Me too. Guys, thank you for having me on though. I'm sorry I didn't bring a scarier mood to the table, but I just couldn't do it. Oh, you know what? Thank you.

It was a real gift for us. Sometimes you just gotta. Was that a palette plunder? you just gotta do a fun one Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is really good. There are we plenty of horrifying ones to go around. We'll get back to it in no time So yeah, yeah. Oh Tony thank you so much for coming. Thank you for having me. We usually end the podcast which is a little voice So I will just do um, I guess I gotta do Beetlejuice's voice. Okay, what does he say? It's show time, what does he?

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