Too Scary; Didn't Watch - CAVEAT

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a headgum podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them so that you don't have to. And our patrons helped me choose an extra scary movie to kick off the first official week of the spookiest month of the year.
Starting point is 00:00:52 This is a blessed October because we get five Wednesdays in October. That is special. Really exciting. So pretty cool. Yeah, Sammy, I saw you posted some still, or like the movie poster on your Instagram, and I didn't like what I saw. No, I think it's going to be really yucky. Didn't like it one day. It was scary.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Oh, brother. Oh, brother. But before we get into that, there are timesams in the show notes if you want to jump straight to the recap. But first, a deasy tiny bit of haunted housekeeping. Titee. Tieti. Ticey. Ticey. Which is that Two-Hel Tuchella merch is still available and you can find that at bonfire.com
Starting point is 00:01:44 slash two-held two-chella spelled exactly as it sounds. And I do believe we've also now fixed it so that you can also find it at Bonfire.com slash T-Sd-W. It's bonfire.com slash store slash T-Sd-D-W for all of our designs. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:02:02 TSDW goes directly to a different shirt, but you can, you know, peruse. Wow, there's a lot of links, a lot of options, click around. You'll find it. You'll find it. I have faith. Oh, thank you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:15 This is the genius of Sammy and Emily that I've like really taken a back seat on. So apologies, this merch is a deeply not responsible for this merch. So happy to perch my merch though. Yeah. I can't wait to have. a black and a pink. Oh, yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Extra, extra large. Yeah. Two XL. Yeah. But that's all that's all on housekeeping we have for today. So will you guys tell me if anything scary happened to you this week? We will tell you. Please.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I want to talk just openly. Are you holding a paintbrush? I'm holding a paintbrush. Okay. I want to talk about all that activity that's going on up there in space. Can we talk about that for a hot second? We can. I've got nothing to contribute.
Starting point is 00:03:04 What's happening in space? I don't know about this. There are two things that have come to my attention. I don't like it already. Well, one, you've certainly heard of 3i Atlas. Have you guys heard about this? No. Certainly have not.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Okay, well, this is like the kind of thing that's on the cover of the Daily Mail like every day, but it's also like really happening, which is there's some, like, there's some, I'm going to get all the facts wrong for the people who are actual spaceheads. I'm sorry. I should have like Googled this beforehand. I was really kind of banking on either of you having like any idea about either of these things. So three eye atlas is an interstellar comet discovered in July 2025 making it the third known interstellar object to pass through our solar system. It's notable for its extremely high velocity and its potential to be significantly more massive than previous interstellar visitors. The comet is currently traveling through the solar system with its closest
Starting point is 00:04:01 approach to Earth occurring in December 2025, and currently it poses no threat to Earth. Currently. I have heard about this. I've heard that there is something that's like, well, I hope that doesn't change. I know. So actually, now I'm confused because I feel like this must be the same thing as the other thing I saw, which is that there's an asteroid headed towards the moon. And Trump wants to, yeah, Trump wants to. Yeah, Trump wants to. to nuke it. He wants NASA to send, he wants to send a nuclear bomb into space to nuke the comet. Huh. What if they don't do anything? Then what happens? What do you mean? Oh, does the moon get hit by an asteroid? Like, what happens? I don't know. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I think that's the worry. Yeah, that's good. That's a concern. Seems like a pretty big worry. That's a concern. So what happens if the moon gets hit by an asteroid? It can't be good. So, can't be good we want because it's like does it get a hole in it that feels like that's not good but it's probably manageable does it get put moved can it get moved you know can the moon be moved well you know the moon controls the tides so no i know so if the fear is that could the astrid knock the moon somewhere it's not supposed to be and then all the tides change i mean we all be dead we'd all be dead yeah we i think we'd all be dead or women become like superheroes because we're like become supercharged linked to the moon because we have moon
Starting point is 00:05:25 energy. Because women have moon energy. That's a really good idea. So I'm just going to read you from the Providence Journal. The headline is, will scientists nuke an asteroid to save the moon? Here's what to know about the plan. Thanks, Seth Jacobson from September 26, 2025. I'm not totally against us nuking an asteroid for the record. Whatever needs to be done, I think. If Trump is deciding that, I'm skeptical. Yeah. But take that out of it and, you know, I'm listening. It says the investigation concerns asteroid 24 YR4, which reached notoriety shortly after its discovery in December when scientists revealed it had a relatively high chance of impacting Earth in 2032. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of crazy stuff in space. I'm not surprised. It's like the
Starting point is 00:06:13 asteroids around 300 feet long. And that's what happened to the dinosaurs, right? Yeah. Anyway, I don't know. Again, that was really bad for them. It was really bad for them. It was really, it was actually, you could say. know who's going to be fine? Sharks. Oh, sharks. Yeah. Sharks. 2032. Okay, that's pretty close. Well, it says now the odds have shifted since December and now it's looking more like it's going to hit the moon. So they're talking nukes. Okay, so maybe it'll shift again. Exactly. Like, let's not get ahead of ourselves. They weren't talking nukes when it was going to hit the earth? Because that. Yeah, we should, why weren't we having that conversation then? Um, okay. Well, yeah, let's circle back to this because
Starting point is 00:06:50 I am interested. Sort of like, let's keep tab. Let's keep tabs on all of these. of the situation. Let's not get preemptively too stressed about it, but, you know, we probably want to stay relatively informed. I probably want to do it we can. But at the same time, we want to stay informed, but at the same time, if had a certain point, they're like, well, yeah, I mean, it's coming. Nothing you can do.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's like, yeah, well, I mean, there's nothing you can do. I mean, I guess what would I do? I would travel more. I'd spend all my money. I already do that. Yeah, there's nothing else to be done except just maybe pray to the asteroid gods, you know. Sure. Gather with everyone you love.
Starting point is 00:07:25 like one town just fucking party just fucking party party like it's 1999 yeah so all right well hey let's everybody just stay on pop of it just stand on top of it and if anybody understands more than we do uh good luck that would be let us know i guess pretty tough yeah i've i doubt they do i doubt they've not everyone has read that providence journal article And only the top three bullet points. What about you guys? Anything scary happened to you this week? It doesn't involve space.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I have to come clean about something that I... Oh, what's she could say? She's been hiding. She's been keeping secrets. Well, Sammy, you actually know this. Okay. But I have ridden in my first Waymo. I was wondering if this was going to come up.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And the next day, I wrote in my second Waymo. You guys, it's, you know, it's tough. Wait, do they have Waymo in L.A. now? How does it work? Oh, they're everywhere. Okay. Okay. So here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Here's the deal. I was very against it. Felt weird, felt dystopian. It just felt like, like, why wouldn't you just get in a car with a person? Like, why would you do that? This is strange and unnatural. troll and I was never going to do it. I was never going to do it. And we were with friends on Thursday night and two of our friends, one of whom is Duncan. Duncan. Love Waymo and we're like,
Starting point is 00:09:06 we're taking Waymo's. Like we have to take Waymo as you guys. Waymo's amazing. We're going to love it. We love it. And we were like, look, I'm not going to say, I'm glad someone forced me to do it because I would never have done it on my own, but a little party was like, I mean, I guess I you know yeah and there are some kinks there are still some kinks with the process um but it's pretty cool is it more expensive or cheaper than uber i think it's like pretty comparable roughly the same um the thing is it's a lot safer yeah um yeah and like it feels pretty cool like i really did like the second I got inside. I was like,
Starting point is 00:09:54 whee! So that was maybe some some capital have fun. Yeah. It was like, it's, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:03 it's, we're just in the car with your friends and only your friends and you're just like talking and hanging out and you just, the party just keeps going. It is novel. It's clean.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's quite, it was playing like spa music. Yeah. It was really, really soothing and nice. And then we took one last night because Joel, Joel was like the biggest,
Starting point is 00:10:22 never Waymo guy. Never Waymo guy. Never Waymo. And now he's really like begrudgingly fucking loves it. And we took a Waymo home from dinner last night. And he had it like cued up ready to play a playlist for a friend's birthday. And he like had it cute up to like play music that she likes when we got in. But I will say there's a because it's like so safe and is taking, you know, isn't going to do any risky maneuvers that a human person would do. There's a few kinks when it comes to. So like the first day, that we took one. This is when we went to the Philharmonic. Sammy and a friends were in one Waymo and I was in the other waymo and I was in the other room with other friends. And there was a lot of people like queued up at a line outside the Philharmonic like dropping people off, you know, like a, you know, a, you know, carpool lane basically. And the Waymo couldn't, it wasn't going to like force its way in because that's, you know, you can't, there's a car there. You can't do that unless you're a person who's like, no, I'm just doing it. And so it, it like, both of our Waymos were just like, uh, okay, you're here.
Starting point is 00:11:22 and just, like, stopped in the middle of the road. Just stopped in the middle of the road. Oh, no. Like the full center lane, like three lanes of traffic on either side. And it was like, watch for cars. Get out. And all of us were like, well, we'll just adjust the pickup. And I was like, nope, it's done.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You're here. So that was not great. And then last night we took it and it was going through the windy hills of Silver Lake to drop our friend off. And it was going to have to make, like, one of those left turns that's like almost a triangle, like it's like almost a U-turn. but that's just the only and so and there's there it's a narrow hilly street so it's a two-lane street but cars are parked on the side of the street so it becomes really kind of like a one like it's like
Starting point is 00:12:02 tricky yeah and it wouldn't it would not make the left term because it was like oh there's a car there i can like it was like it like it was like it like it could have like a car can but in its sensors it was like there i'm gonna i'm gonna there's just a car there i can't do it and it like stopped for a while and then, like, made a series of insane right turns to go, like, all the way around and did a whole other. So it was like, you know, but again, safe. But there are things that's like, yeah, I can't, like, totally see the full picture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 But I'm ashamed to admit that's pretty great. I'm really conflicted on this because I know. Me too. I hate the advances that are being made in technology. I think that they're like all the wrong ones But that being said I'm so scared of driving And like I'm
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'm so scared of my children Getting into cars with people you don't know is scary Yeah and also like For so many reasons I selfishly just because I'm so scared Hope that everyone's has self-driving cars By the time Salton may have to learn how to drive Does seem like a better
Starting point is 00:13:12 A better way to be I don't want to have to teach them how to drive because, like, that already scares the shit out of me. Kids are already, like, not really driving as much. I just found this out recently. But because of Uber's 16-year-olds, like, don't necessarily get their driver's licenses anymore, which is so bizarre to me, but also may be exciting for you. But I think that the thing that this is in tension with is that I think that one reason
Starting point is 00:13:39 I don't like all these technologies is because they're making our lives so frictionless and so easy and we, like, do need to challenges. is and we also need like self-control like we need to have skills as human beings and just eliminating the need to have any skills is like bad for us. And being so dependent on the technology because when it doesn't work, then and if you don't know how to drive or know how to get anywhere on your own or don't like you don't have the map of your city memorized because you just use Google Maps. It's like, well, what if you can't? Yeah. I know. Well, and like driving is a profession for many people. Exactly. It's taking away jobs. So there's also that. But, but, but,
Starting point is 00:14:23 but at the same time, imagine if no one gotten fucking car wrecks. Imagine if no one drunk drive, drove drunk, like it's just it's, if if everyone was in a self-driving car, everyone would be driving safely. I know. And that's, you know, That would be really cool. It's pretty tempting. Driving is so dangerous. For there not to be as many automobile accidents.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Once last time I said automobile. I don't know. It sounded really natural the way that you just said it. Automobile. Anyway, it's a, it's, I'm conflicted. It's, it's tough, man. I don't know. We live in weird times.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I just, I felt the need to be honest. Yeah. And let everybody know that I rode on a Waymo. Thank you for coming clean about that. I liked it. Yeah. Yeah. More moral debates to come.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I'm sure we're open to hearing more information. But I'm certain I am certain someone's going to scream at me in the comments. And, you know, do what you got to do to feel better about our chaotic out of control world. Use me as your outlet. I get it. But I'm just being honest. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yep. Sammy, other than your Waymo experience, anything scary happened to you this? Which I also enjoyed. I'll be honest. Thank you for your honesty. Yes, something a little scary happened to me, which is I have recently started gardening more. One of the things I'm doing in my garden is composting, home composting. I have two bins that I put my food scraps in and then you layer your greens and your browns for your nitrogen and your carbon. and I'm learning about that, which is very interesting to me because, I don't know, for some reason, I think reducing food waste is very cool. Yeah. But doing it at home is different than the way that I've done it in the past at a community garden where you drop off food scraps.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And because of a large, this is like two inside baseball. But a large, the way that the composting I'm used to doing is that it's a like large pile. And because there's so much food scraps and so. so much like chemical reactions happening it gets really hot they get up to like 140 degrees inside the pile and that's how the food scraps break down along with bacteria and and fungus and stuff um but in my own personal backyard I don't have like mountains of food scraps and so it's happening a little slower and I'm kind of a bit of a learning curve with it and it's either like a little too dry or a little too wet and yesterday it was too dry in least face you have to get
Starting point is 00:17:16 the you have to get the right moisture level is important yeah okay so it's too dry it was too dry and so I'm trying to turn it with a shovel and like add more water and add more food scraps and a big lizard pops out of it and it's in this like enclosed tub and so I'm like trying to get this lizard. I'm like, uh-oh, I've got to get out of here. You've got to get out of here. But it's like crawling down into it to try to like hide from me and from you and your shovel. From me and my shovel. And I'm like, no, no, I'm not going to stab you. I'm going to make a little bridge out of the shuffle that you can climb right on up to get out of there. And he didn't do that. It was an alligator lizard by the way, which are the ones that look like snakes. So they're like a little, because I love lizards. And I still even love this guy. But he's just like a little creepier. a regular lizard. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:06 I've seen those around our place too. And confusing that an alligator lizard is the lizard that looks like a snake. Yeah, there's too many
Starting point is 00:18:15 of the wrong words to you just describe. So I tried to get this guy out of there for a long time and it really stressed me out because as he was going under the food scraps,
Starting point is 00:18:26 I'm like, well, now I could stab you because I don't know where you are and I'm trying to like shovel through this compost to find you
Starting point is 00:18:33 and I don't want to like accidentally stab you and so the bucket I use or the bin I uses has no bottom so eventually I just was like I'm just going to take the whole bin off and so I took it off and just like loosened out the whole pile and he ran off and he ran away and he got out but it was a very stressful little journey in my a little step in my composting journey it was like make sure your compost piles stay wet enough that the lizard can't hang out in there just didn't know that that was even an option.
Starting point is 00:19:07 But you guys, compost piles are pretty gross. There's lots of bugs in there generally. There's grub, you know, like in Lion King when they're like, ooh, grub. And they're the grubs are so fat. But they're good for the compost. I know, but they're just, uh, strange. I think that's like, add that to Nantucket as things I didn't know were real. Like, I was like, oh, in Lion King, they eat grub because it's a cartoon that's not real.
Starting point is 00:19:30 There were grubs in our yard in Florida because it's so, like, moist soil and they are oh i'm googling all these things now i'm googling grubs are nasty they're really gross but i'm also huge they're really big they look just like the ones in life oh my god they're just like massive maggots oh they're so gross holy shit oh my god they're like thick thick boys i'm so removed i'm so removed from nature i like i feel so deeply removed removed nature. It's a it's it's it's hate to tell you guys it's the sickness of our sickness of our time. No I know. Are you feeling like healed while you're gardening? Is it healing you? Yes. And I love it's like it's like magical that your that your food scraps turn back into soil and then you use it in
Starting point is 00:20:23 your garden and you can grow stuff and I mean it's amazing. I never liked garden. I was never gardener and just I'm being freaking green pilled over here. I'm being green pilled. She's been green But give her a garden and watch her get green filled. It's like the S&L skit for wells for boys, but give gardens to boys. Like to reverse black pilling, gardens for boys. Gardens for boys. Turn all boys into gardeners. We got to start green pilling as many people as we can.
Starting point is 00:20:51 We really do. Our hands in the soil. Mm-hmm. And let's get out there, you guys. Get the sun. My nails are just so long. I don't want to get dirt under there. It's true.
Starting point is 00:21:03 They really do get. they do get dirty. I mean, I wear gardening gloves, but... That's true. But sometimes you still... But then you're not getting your hands in the soil. But I'll put my feet in the soil. I love to my feet in soil.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's grounding. Either way, it's grounding, I guess. Okay. Yeah. Gardening gloves, bare feet. Yep. Aw. But have my galoshes nearby, just in case. Just in case. There's a wild grub. Are your clogs, gardener brand clogs?
Starting point is 00:21:33 No. Because those are really comfy. They are bowed in and I like them But I have yet to find like the perfect pair of garden clocks for me Because they're not breathable I think Jenna has some garden air clogs Oh but they're not breathable either I need some
Starting point is 00:21:47 She needs some holes in the side On those toes Yeah it just gets a little sweaty in there You know Yeah Wow wow wow But the true scariest thing that happened to me This week was watching this movie
Starting point is 00:22:01 I got really scared You got really scared. I got really scared. Dungons out of town. But I did ask the patrons to help me choose a really scary one. And they chose caveat came out in 2021, written and directed by Damien McCarthy, who you might remember from being the writer and director of Audity. Uh-huh. Irish horror film that came out after this one.
Starting point is 00:22:28 This one came out before Audity. We covered them backwards. and Caviott is starring Johnny French, Layla Sykes, and Ben Kaplan. And it is a Shudder original, so you can watch it on shudder.com. Nice. Do you guys know anything about this movie? Nothing at all. Nothing except your screenshot from last night.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Yeah. Looked pretty bad. Yeah, there's a little bunny guy in this creepy little bunny. Oh, is this the thing that made you mad at moms? No. Oh, that was the girlfriend. The girlfriend, the Amazon. Prime series, which if anyone has watched it, it's, oh, I was rage watching it. And I went on
Starting point is 00:23:10 Reddit and everyone's like, yeah, it was fun. And I was like, it was fun. Like, I loathed everybody in it. Oh. Anyways, if you've watched the girlfriend and felt similar rage, let me know. Because I'll also, like, if there's a season two, I'm absolutely, I'll be tuning in. Okay. Okay. So this is a love, hate relationship with the girlfriend. Yeah, I need someone to, I need you guys. I'd really like it if you watched it. I don't know if I want to. Well, maybe I will, but I don't know if I want to.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Okay, well, let me know if you do. And listeners, let me know if you have and what your thoughts were. But okay, caveat has an 83% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 60% on Metacritic and a 5.9 on IMDB, which is negative in the IMDB. It's a negative score. It's a minus. Negative score. The budget was 250,000 pounds.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Hmm, pounds. No box office. It was not released in theaters, Shudder original. So who knows? Who knows? And no trivia. Okay. It's a small little film, so there's not really any trivia.
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Starting point is 00:27:26 After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you, select podcast in the survey, and be sure to select our show in the drop-down menu that follows. A trigger warning that there are mentions of suicide and abuse. Be warned. We begin. It's so quiet. already I'm stressed because I'm turning up the volume like is it my volume is it my volume and then I'm like it's going to be so loud all of a sudden yeah it's just a girl looks to be in her mid 20s-ish walking in like candlelit halls through a nasty old haunted looking house with peeling wallpaper and just like old and and dirty and oh you don't want to be in this house and she is holding a toy rabbit by the ears, and the rabbit has a little drum like, you know, the monkey.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Like the monkey. And her nose is pouring blood, and she's holding it out in front of her and kind of using it almost like a compass, like pacing around the room, pointing it in different directions, and then it starts to drum. And she goes in that direction, wherever it was when it started drumming. So it is leading her through the dark, nasty hallways of this old house. And of course, it leads her to a door to the basement. Hmm. Let me see a shot of her looking down the stairs into the dark, scary basement. And the rabbit is drumming away.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Rabbit's kind of cute. people probably won't agree, but it's like also really scary, but a little bit cute. I'll hold on to the cuteness. And down at the bottom of that basement, we see a boarded over furnace when she points the rabbit to that. Drumming like crazy. She's nonstop drumming. She finds a knife down there. There's also like so many scary looking weapons down here, just the set design.
Starting point is 00:29:43 is very scary and menacing. There's lots of very sharp tools. Just anything down here could be used as a weapon and it's unsettling. None of them ever are. But effective, nonetheless. But she does find a knife, and she uses it to cut through the board that's covering this, like, blocked off part of the basement. And we see from inside the closed off area as the knife cuts a circle.
Starting point is 00:30:13 into the board and so we just see this kind of like glow of a white circle and then she pops it out and we just see her eyes looking into the complete darkness of this hidden room and then match cut to a man looking through like a porthole style window and then cut to black a little disorienting Okay. So it doesn't seem like that man is looking at the same. It seems like a completely different location. Yeah. Okay. We cut to black and we hear some voiceover saying, I came and visited you after your accident. Irish accent? Yes. Nice. Nice. I came and visited you after your accident. It's not that. It's not that kind of Irish. It's like the real subtle Irish. Like real Irish people, not like. Like real Irish people, not like a little leprecha car.
Starting point is 00:31:11 like a leprechaun irish got it i came and visited year that's the only one i can do so that's what you'll be getting that's what you'll be getting today uh and we hear a voice responding asking why why were you looking for me and the first voice says i have a job offer for you we're getting some titles over this just have to call out the font is lucida sands i always get very thrown off when like one of the default fonts is chosen for movie titles, but, you know, 250,000 pounds, you got to, you can't come up with your own fonts. Yeah. So then we come up in a room where two men are sitting having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:31:57 We see their names are Mo and Isaac. Mo is the one with a job offer for Isaac. No idea who these guys are. again, it's like disorienting and we don't really have a sense of the space that we're in. So Mo is telling Isaac that he has a job for him and he says, my brother died last year and his daughter has been going to his old place a lot and I just want someone to keep an eye on her. she has some psychological issues, but she's harmless, but, uh, if you got to tell somebody that someone's harmless, mm-mm, they're not harmless.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But I'll pay you $200 a day to go keep an eye on her. So all we know about Isaac is that he's just been in some sort of accident. He seems like, is he young? He's probably in his like 30s, maybe early 40s, but he's very, he's very, his very, He's got a really overgrown beard, and he looks like unkempt and like a little, like, he's gone through some hard times. And so he's listening, and he's like, but he's asking questions. Like, why don't you do it? And Mo says, well, I don't know that, like, honestly, she's, I can't remember what he says exactly, but it's along the lines of, like, honestly, she kind of freaks me out.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Which is, like, not helping with selling this. Yeah, I don't really want to. And he said, Isaac asks, where's, or how did your brother die? And he tells him he died by suicide. He asks, where's her mother? The mother has been missing for eight months. And this is not sounding like a very appealing job offer other than the two hundred hundred dollars a day, I guess, like, and not really having to do anything.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And then Isaac says, there must be something more to it. And then there's a Cabin in the Woods style title Jump Scare where it just says, caveat with like a scream. Whoa. It got me really good. And it is at the point in the conversation where it's like, yeah, one caveat would be what we're about to find out. So now we see Mo and Isaac arriving at a lakeside little parking lot.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It's all quite empty, no one else in sight. And in the middle of this lake, it's a big lake, in the middle there's an island. It's probably 50 or so feet of water around on each side of it. So you could like swim out to it. But Isaac says, you didn't mention an island, I can't swim. That's not, that's not good. Not good. And Mo says, well, good thing there's a boat.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Like, you don't have to swim and they get in a little row boat and row out there. Isaac's looking pretty uneasy, but he's on the boat. And you guys, it gets even worse. Yeah. We get out to the island and we see this old nasty ass house. And this is, I guess, a piece of trivia that I remember from Audity was that it's the same filming location. They use the same house for both. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Just kind of fun. And a very scary house. A very scary house. But I wouldn't have recognized it. That's cool. Don't. It's like an old converted barn. It's like pretty big.
Starting point is 00:35:55 You can see that it's big in Audity. In this, it feels smaller and all the rooms look different. Wow. Well, and also, obviously, is this house actually on the middle of an island? How did they make it look like this? Maybe not. It might not be, because it's like seemingly in the center of the island. So you don't see any water from the house. So it could be movie magic.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah. I'm sure it is. Just because I doubt anyone actually wants to film when you have to take a boat to get there. Yeah, that's all your gear. So they arrive at the nasty house. and there's an old school intercom system where you press a little button and Mo presses a button on one of them
Starting point is 00:36:38 and says, oh, go, we're here. And Isaac's looking around. Does anybody else live on this island? Mo says, no, just a family of foxes. And just so you know, like when they yip, it sounds like a teenage girl screaming. Isaac kind of shudders. And he says, have you ever heard a teenage girl?
Starting point is 00:37:00 scream, Isaac says no, and Mo kind of laughs and it's like, yeah, sure. Ew, no. A really creepy exchange. No, no, no. Do we know how these two know each other? Yeah, how do they know each other? We don't, we don't. Oh, they met in prison. Don't you think? Could be. They met in the psych ward. On the Wikipedia summary, he is, Mo is described as being Isaac's landlord, but I did not catch that anywhere but maybe then mo says oh yeah just one last thing okay okay now that we're trapped okay and i can't literally can't swim home Olga is very afraid of being attacked in her room while she's sleeping Isaac says that's no problem i don't i won't do that i won't go in her room oh so he's going to attack her in other rooms
Starting point is 00:38:00 But the fears while she's sleeping in her room. Right. And so he says, I'll just leave her room alone altogether. I'll leave her alone completely if she wants. And Mo says, well, she can't just take your word for it. Isaac says, excuse me. And Mo pulls out a harness with a chain leash. What?
Starting point is 00:38:28 And says, we're going to need you to put this on. It has plenty of slack, so you'll be able to walk around the whole house. You just won't be able to go in Olga's room. What? Isaac says, absolutely not. I'm not putting that on. You didn't mention an island and you sure shit didn't mention a fucking leash. Like, this deal is over.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Yeah. Also, not to have another fucking tangent, but since I'm watching TASC, I really do like a Philadelphia accent. And I feel like I'm getting one just from watching Tass because I'm like. I said over. Over, over. It's over. This is over. And Mo says, every job has a uniform.
Starting point is 00:39:13 No, Mo. No. They go into Olga's room. I can't remember Mo's like, let me just like introduce you to her. Let's see what she thinks. They go into her room. She is frozen in a catatonic state with her hands covering her face huddled in the corner of the room. She's completely immobile.
Starting point is 00:39:30 silent. We do see her nose is bleeding again. And Isaac seems to really, like, feel for her. Like, I was getting the impression that he is actually, like, concerned for this girl that's here alone. And Mo kind of says, all right, well, it's going to get dark soon. So if you don't want to do it, fine. I hate to leave her alone. But if you don't want to do it, you don't want to do it. Mo's niece. Yes. And you see Isaac kind of take pity on her. And he puts on the fucking harness. No, my dude, absolutely. Wait, can you describe the harness a little bit more?
Starting point is 00:40:07 What does it look like? Like, what is it? It is a leather vest that Mo locks onto him. Oh, my God. And puts the key in Olga's room where he can't reach it. And it has a really long chain attached to the back of it. so he's able to move around the house, but it just gets, pulls him back
Starting point is 00:40:33 before he can get into Olga's room. How long is he supposed, what's the timeline here? Duration of this drop? Mo mentioned, I can't imagine you'll be there for more than five days. And why? Why?
Starting point is 00:40:48 To like watch out for Olga and make sure that she doesn't hurt herself or that she's okay. Just for five days? What happens after five days? I mean, I can now. assume, but like in the logical world of this movie, what happens after five days? I don't know. And Isaac doesn't seem like happy about this, but also it seems like Isaac is
Starting point is 00:41:10 disoriented. We are, I can't remember if already we have kind of heard mentions of this, but his accident has left him with some memory loss. So I think he's having a hard time probably finding work and is, I kind of took it as. he also seems to have, like, a lot of sympathy for Olga and, like, wanting to help. He, like, genuinely seems like he wants to help her. You hate it when being a good person is that you're downfall. Yeah. But he can get into, like, a bedroom for himself with the chain and, like, go to, like, the kitchen and the bathroom and stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, but he probably can't really shut any doors on himself. Yeah. Or, like, really, like, lie on his back. Yeah, he has to lay on his side or his stomach. He can. He can. side sleeper. He does have a little room. He cannot reach the bathroom, unfortunately. So Mo leaves and Isaac is wandering around the house. He does try to go to the bathroom and we see that it's not long
Starting point is 00:42:10 enough to go into the bathroom. He's angry, but Moe's already gone. So he walks through the kitchen to go outside to pee outside. And as he goes out there, he sees there is a dog chained up there and him and the dog just kind of stare at each other, both individually on leashes. Oh, I don't like this. I don't like it. He gets some food out of the fridge for the dog. It's like spam in a can or like some, it's, there's, this place is nasty as hell. Oh.
Starting point is 00:42:43 The walls also all look like broken, like they've been punched and, and. Oh, my God. It's so bad. Oh, no. I would never stay in this house. No. And he seems a little, like, calmed by the dog. It's nice to see a dog.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Dogs are nice. Mm-hmm. Sure. This is a cute dog. And so he pulls up a chair and he sits in this hallway facing outside to the dog as he's tossing little bits of meat to it. And then the dog stills and looks up at him and looks a little scared and then looks up past his like higher above his head and we see behind Isaac the lights in the house turn off so it's just darkness behind him and then we see a shot from behind Isaac Isaac's not noticing this
Starting point is 00:43:39 he's just still kind of tossing meat and we see a shot from behind Isaac as a POV kind of rises behind him seems quite tall and the chain is being pulled taut until it yanks him back a little bit, knocks him almost, almost pulls him over backwards, but he kind of regains his balance. Looks back, nothing's there.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I hate this. I hate this. He gets up to go look around the corner, see if anyone's there. Nobody's there, except empty. And then there's an intercom right in the hallway that he's standing in,
Starting point is 00:44:22 that kind of scratch, Scratchels. Scratchel? What have I tried to say there? It's like garbled and scratchy. And we just hear kind of a moaning sound. But hard to make out. But not what you want to be hearing.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It does sound human. Wait, and the intercom goes to her room? They're kind of all around the house. There's probably five or six of them. There's one in the basement. There's one in her room. There's one in this hallway. There's one at the entry.
Starting point is 00:44:53 way okay that's all the ones that i got eyes on but there might be more uh so anyways now it's night time time for bed yeah olga by the way this whole time she's still just catatonic in her room huddled in the corner so same olga same isa goes to his room which is bleak just a cot and again peeling wallpaper and like water-stained walls and nasty splotches everywhere and a painting of a girl holding a bunny that just her face her facial expression is very angry and we just get a close-up on the painting of just like a little girl holding her a little rabbit just like mad dogging the artist the painter he's creeped out by it but he just crawls in the little cot and lays sideways facing the wall trying to drift off to sleep in his harness when there's a loud crash he turns over
Starting point is 00:46:07 sees the painting has fallen off the wall onto the floor that's a good sign he looks at it again he's pretty creeped out by it so he gets up and and flips it around so that the painting is facing the wall so he can't see it crawls back in bed lays for a little while
Starting point is 00:46:29 and then kind of turns back over trying to get comfortable painting's back facing him no he turns it around one more time and like really looks at it and it's like I turned it around
Starting point is 00:46:45 I've turned it around confirming for real this time and he gets back in bed and we hear one more big slam and he turns and it has fallen backwards flat on the ground he lifts it up
Starting point is 00:47:04 and the painting's face has changed so that the eyes are now cloudy white like ghost eyes or something scary and the painting starts whispering to him you hear a little like, come close here. Creepy little whispers, and then he wakes up, like, hours later, and the painting is just, like, facing the wall again. So we're not sure if that was a nightmare or what.
Starting point is 00:47:33 But he gets up. It's still, it's like early in the morning. We see the first hints of daylight, but it's still pretty dark in there. So he's walking around the house some more. he goes and sits in the kitchen he seems really cold too like he didn't bring anything by the way for this he just has no suitcase he has no stuff he can't change his clothes under that harness he's he's using me wearing the same nasty shirt for five days yeah yep so he's kind of rubbing his arms he's going to be so stinky he can't take a shower really stinky yes he can't take a shower he can't
Starting point is 00:48:11 brush his teeth oh yeah I hate when I can't brush my teeth He notices that the basement door is wide open, did see him close it earlier. I didn't say that. That was before he fell asleep, he tries to find the end of the chain. And guess what? It goes all the way down to the basement. No. So he really should have asked that, too.
Starting point is 00:48:41 He really should have asked that before what's name left. You'd really want to be able to see the whole. of the thing you're harnessed too. Yep. Yep. So he's clearly creeped out by it that day
Starting point is 00:48:54 and had closed the door and today he sees that the door is wide open. He goes over to it, closes it again. He goes into a room that has a little fireplace. Again, he's shivering
Starting point is 00:49:06 and he pulls up a chair to the fireplace, opens the grate or whatever to see if he can light it, and the rabbit with the drums is in there. Okay. He lifts it out, puts it to the side, and he's about to reach in to try to start a fire when he hears a scream, turns scared to see what that was.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And then Olga walks into the room carrying a crossbow and says, don't worry, it's just the foxes. and Isaac's looking pretty freaked out by this crossbow which she's kind of pointing all over the place real willy-nilly doesn't seem to have the best you know crossbow safety oh I really don't like a crossbow
Starting point is 00:50:00 it's also we've talked about this before but like not a weapon I would like to wield it's not one I would like to be on either end of it's burdensome and you see that in this later but you know she's she's awake she's moved around and she says like what are you doing in here and he says oh i was going to try to light a fire and she says you can't my mom sealed it so the room would just fill with smoke if you lit it and he's like why do you have a crossbow And she says
Starting point is 00:50:39 Her father and uncle Used to take her hunting And shows Shows him a picture of them together In their hunting gear with the crossbows He asks her What were they hunting? And she says
Starting point is 00:50:52 After a beat Foxes Until my mother put a stop to it In a way that's also Question mark She asks She like answers it like a question Foxes?
Starting point is 00:51:05 so they're having a little conversation he asks you know where has there is there a search to find your mother like what's being done to find her she says nothing he says what happened with your father i can't remember if he asks her or if she just volunteers it but she says oh yeah my father shot himself with this crossbow in the basement How do you shoot yourself with a cross? Yeah, that's tricky. She says... Maybe that's not true. Maybe. Maybe. Who's to say?
Starting point is 00:51:44 Who's to say? Hard to know. Hard to know. And she tells him that her dad had severe claustrophobia. And her mom put her dad in the harness and swallowed the key as like a hilarious prank. And he got so freaked out that he shot himself. So we're getting in the sense that her mom is abusive. Maybe her dad's abusive.
Starting point is 00:52:10 This is like a really unstable seeming household. Why is there a harness? Why are there so many crossbows? And we see she says that she continued to wear the key around her neck to taunt him, which I was kind of like, she pooped out. She just done that, yeah. Yeah. She definitely did.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah. So, yeah, there's this just kind of pretty disturbing story of what has happened to her parents. Isaac seems rattled by it. And then she just turns and leaves the room and leaves him there. He, after she leaves, notices that the basement door is open again. He gets up one more time, closes it. and then sits in a chair and kind of starts drifting off to sleep because we know he didn't get the best night
Starting point is 00:53:07 sleep last night, understandably. And just as he's nodding off, the little rabbit drum starts going off. And he jerks awake, looks at the rabbit. Rabbit looks at him. The rabbit is positioned in this way that's kind of hunched forward so that the eyes are looking up at him.
Starting point is 00:53:27 in a very sinister intense way and he looks at the rabbit and says hello hello he's like testing the rabbit seems to be communicating with him and then he's really focused on this rabbit staring at it's silent now the rabbit is silent And we see the basement door slowly opening behind him as the rabbit starts drumming again. Drum, drum, drum, drum, drum, drum, drum, jump, drum, jump, jump, jump. Oh, it's a good rabbit. It's a warning rabbit. Yeah, you guys. The rabbit is like, I like the rabbit. The rabbit's like just trying.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's trying to help. To help. Is it the spirit of the mom, the spirit of the dad? Spirit of the lost sibling. We'll see. So again, we're getting this scary POV shot of something coming up behind Isaac, him not noticing. He's looking at this rabbit. that's just drumming nonstop
Starting point is 00:54:28 and then he turns around at the last second as the thing is like right up on top of him again nothing there but he sees that the basement door has opened yet again he walks over to it looks down the basement steps and a light is on down
Starting point is 00:54:44 there which it has not been previously he calls out hello he says is someone down there rabbit and druming He grabs the rabbit, he grabs a fire poker, and he heads downstairs in a similar way as we saw Olga doing in the beginning. By the way, yeah, Olga was the person from the opening scene, if I didn't say that. He's wielding the rabbit as a kind of guiding mechanism and is led to the same covered up
Starting point is 00:55:26 furnace thing now with the hole in it that we saw Olga carve into it and he sets down the rabbit and finds a flashlight and looks into this hole and are seeing him scanning this flashlight around these dark corners of this empty hidden stone room until he sees a corpse of a woman that has been killed with a crossbow. Oh, yep. There we go. There it is. An eight-month-old corpse, one might argue.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Well, something really creepy about it that was very effective is that, yes, she looks like she has been there for quite some time, except for the fact that her eyes are like a very rich, deep, healthy brown. Her eyes are just, like, look like alive eyes. She's alive. Yeah. really unsettling and creepy yuck
Starting point is 00:56:28 he screams he actually he doesn't scream Isaac cool as a cute he's cool he's cool as he's cool as he's he's freaked don't get me wrong but he just kind of stumbles backwards
Starting point is 00:56:42 falls backwards in fear and then goes up to Olga's room Olga is catatonic once again covering her face now sitting on at the foot of the bed the only phone is in her room. So he's trying to get to the phone. He can't reach it, but he notices that there's a little like broom closet type thing next to her room. And there's, for some reason, just a small
Starting point is 00:57:06 little hole in the wall perfectly above her desk where the phone is. And so he's able to go into this side closet and reach through this hole to pick up the phone. He calls Mo. He says, I found her mom, her mom's dead. I need to get out of here. Mo says, how are you on the phone? How did you get in her room? He says, I'm not in the room. But like, I need to get out of here. He says, did you call the police? He says, no, Jesus fucking Christ. He says, no, I don't know where I am. I need you to call the police. No, don't trust this man, my friend. Mo is like, okay, I'll take care of it. Yeah, no. Uh-huh. That means he's going to kill you. Sorry. I hate to break it to you, bud.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You. Abs, no common sense. You never, you never want to be asked by someone you don't know. Did you call the police? Well, did you? You never want to be asked that question. And if you are, the answer is, yes, I did. And they're here right now.
Starting point is 00:58:13 They're in a boat. They're in a pontoon boat right outside. I'm looking at them. I'm looking at them. Hi, please. Yep. That's not what he did. also just call the fucking police, like right now, in addition to Mo.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I think the... He trusts Mo, unfortunately. He does trust Mo, but also the thing that he's mentioned here is, like, I don't know where I am. So if I call the police, I don't know how to direct them to get to me. Not good. So he goes back, sees Olga in her room, pulls her door closed, and pulls the key from her, the inside. of the room to the outside and locks her in her room.
Starting point is 00:58:57 He goes back in the basement. He's like yanking at this chain, like trying to get out of it. But it is really thick and in there really good. And we hear Olga's voice over the intercom calling down to him. He tells her, I found your mom. I called your uncle. He's coming here. He's on his way.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Olga says I didn't kill my mom my uncle and dad did and now that you've told him that you know this do you really think he's going to let you leave? Yeah duh sorry Olga this would have been
Starting point is 00:59:35 helpful information you're just sharing this now so he goes back upstairs and calls to her to leave the crossbow by the door and stand back, which she does. And so he opens her door,
Starting point is 00:59:54 is able to pull the crossbow out. So he takes that away from her. Doesn't she also have the key to his harness? Yes, but she's not offering that up. Yeah, she's not offering that up. As he's about to speak to her, we hear a couple footsteps in the hall behind him, and he turns and you see just like a flash of something,
Starting point is 01:00:17 or did we... I don't know, but he calls out somebody there. Nothing. And while he's looking down the hallway to see if he can see anybody, we see Olga putting on a different outfit. Uh-oh. And he turns back and we see, I also didn't mention this, sorry that he has been looking at a photo of him
Starting point is 01:00:45 and presumably his own brother, kind of periodically throughout this and his brother is wearing a red leather jacket in the photo and so now he turns around and Olga is wearing the very same red leather jacket Oh no Oh no what was this accent he was in This isn't sounding good
Starting point is 01:01:07 And he says My brother had a jacket just like that Olga says it's this one Oh my God Oh, God. Oh. No. Olga.
Starting point is 01:01:23 There's something so, oh my God. When someone is just like matter-of-factly like, yeah. She's so straight-faced and like. Dry. Yeah, dry, emotionless the whole time. It's scarier than if you were getting lied to. Yeah. It is so much scarier.
Starting point is 01:01:39 He said, obviously, says, you know, what are you talking about? She says, you left it here. What are you talking about? she tells him you were here about a year ago and you left this here says i've never been here before she says my uncle said you you wouldn't remember he said that you lost some you lost some memory he says no i would remember i was not here that didn't happen oh no i hate this why would i have been here and she says my uncle hired you to come here a year ago to lock my father in the basement.
Starting point is 01:02:19 What? He says, nope, I didn't do that. I would never do that. And she says, yeah, but you did. You did, though. And he says, call your uncle. Call him right now.
Starting point is 01:02:32 He'll tell you that that never happened. I don't know, dude. So she calls her uncle. She calls Mo. And he was on speakerphone. Isaac says, Olga is trying to say that I was here a year ago and that I locked
Starting point is 01:02:48 her dad in the basement and that you told her that I did this and that you told her that I don't remember this. It's just a moment of silence and Mo goes, yes. Oh my God. Isaac says, what do you mean? Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:06 He says, yeah, that all happened. And it was a mistake and I shouldn't have asked you, but you shouldn't have said yes. Oh my God And Isaac is like I wouldn't have done that
Starting point is 01:03:20 I know that I wouldn't have done that And he says you did it I don't know what to tell you And hangs up And Isaac's like call the police If I did that call the police Let them arrest me like Get me out of here
Starting point is 01:03:32 I want to call the police She says No I'm not calling the police Oh my God And he says Well if I don't Leave this island And people will know or something.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And she's like, no, I don't think so. Does anybody know that you're here? When you see him kind of realize that? No, nobody does. And again, this is all done so flatly. She's just like, no, I don't, I don't think so. Like, I don't think anybody knows you're here. I don't think anybody's coming for you.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Oh. It's so scary. It's so scary because, like, she's clearly not scared. a way, that makes it scary. Like, it's like she's, like, so confident that, like, she's fully in control. Or not Olga's fully in control, but, like, they're fully in control. Like, is she mad at him for locking up her dad, or is she just like, I don't know, what's done is done?
Starting point is 01:04:31 It's hard to say. I would. Okay. I think it's specifically played very flat so you can kind of put whatever on it. And we're not really going to know. So let's just see what happens. But also the red jacket is his brother's jacket. So is the implication that his brother was also there?
Starting point is 01:04:52 We'll see. We'll find out. Okay. So he realizes he's fucked. He has no cards to play here. And so he just locks her back in the room. Wait, do we think that's sorry, just to pause for just a second. Do we think that Mo just did this, like, for fun again?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Like, does he want to kill? Does he do this explicitly to kill him? Or, like, do you know what I mean? Like, what's the, he really just wants to. I have some theories. Okay, all right. We can talk about it at the end. I think it's like a tying up loose ends type of thing.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Got it. So we see Isaac freaking out again, trying to break that chain, trying to break out his harness. It's not working. And then he sits at the kitchen table and we see a photo of the mom. from before she went missing and see that she is indeed wearing that key to the harness around her neck. And he has a little light bulb of my moment. Oh. And...
Starting point is 01:05:55 Time to visit the corpse. He goes down into the basement. It's dark and scary down there. And he reaches in through that hole. and he just see his arm going into the darkness and then he pulls the key off and he gets it
Starting point is 01:06:16 and he's able to get himself out of the harness and as soon as he does the power goes out in the house and it's pitch black and he starts hearing very faint like a woman
Starting point is 01:06:30 crying just little cries the same sort of thing we were hearing over the intercom before But he did have that flashlight down there that he used before. So he's able to kind of feel his way around to find that. And then what proceeds is a lot of fumbling around in the darkness, which I find very, very scary.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And so even though not a lot happens in this part, I think it's like kind of the scariest part of the movie because you just have no idea what's going to happen. And nothing has to happen for it to be scary because all you're seeing is darkness with, like, like one little flashlight light just like illuminating dark corners. We don't know where we are. It's so scary. And then as he gets to the kitchen, there is a jump scare. He sees Olga seated at the kitchen table, catatonic again, hands over her eyes, nose bleeding.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Really startles him. But he keeps on moving. He goes out to the shore. and the boat is obviously not there. And he can't swim. So, oh boy. We're hearing fox cries, which are really upsetting. They do sound a lot like girl screams.
Starting point is 01:07:51 He goes back into the kitchen and he puts the harness on Olga. Okay. In this scenario, you're him. What are you doing? I think I wouldn't go back in the house at all. I think I'd be staying outside. I think I would just be... hiding in the forest until daytime at least and then like going from there learning how to swim
Starting point is 01:08:13 I'd be up a tree I think yeah yeah time to teach myself how to swim and then hope that that probably won't work yeah but I think I'd get I'd stay outside and I'd get as high up as I could I like that and then I would wait till daytime and I would hope that I could like see someone in a boat somewhere Or I start, during the daytime, I start building a raft or fucking something. Yeah, great. We got it. Okay. We got it all figured out.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Good, good, good. Perfect plan. Oh, also, just like, as this is so dark, because it's, it's a... I'd get the dog, and I'd have the dog with me. Oh, right. Get the dog on your side. Yeah. I'd have the dog nearby.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Dogs are easy to get on your side. Up a tree. Yeah. Great. Okay. Continue. So because it's so cold and because he's so scared, also the, like, flashlight beam is just like shaking like constantly he finds a beanie he puts that on it's clearly like very cold
Starting point is 01:09:11 and he gets his brother's jacket back from olga and puts that on and he's huddling himself and as he gets the jacket we get a flashback and we see that he Isaac is wearing the jacket so I am under the impression that his brother died and that he like inherits. his or like kept his jacket as a memory of him. But we see Isaac wearing the red leather jacket speaking with Mo and Mo offering money to go to the island to lock his brother, his brother, Mo's brother, in the basement of his house because he has claustrophobia and he'll probably die of fear or something down there. So he wants him to die.
Starting point is 01:10:03 The plan is wrong stuff. And Isaac knew this. Isaac went to assist in this murder, essentially. Well, yes. But he has also had like memory loss since after an accident. And so this is presented as like, this is Isaac remembering this from the first time after like holding the jacket in his hands. But I mean in this in this flashback, Isaac is being told like this is going to kill him and you're going to go do it. Yes. And Isaac says like, why would I do that? Why do you want to do that? Mo says he's in the midst of a bit of a breakdown and he knows things about me and I can't trust him anymore and I need him gone and I will pay you a life-changing amount of money to do it. So we cut back to present moment and Isaac wakes up and runs to the bathroom in what was, he's in Olga's old room now
Starting point is 01:11:04 because that's the only room that she can't get into because now she's wearing the harness and he throws up in the bathroom and as he does we see Olga like crawling up to
Starting point is 01:11:20 the entrance to the room doors wide open and she uses the fire poker to slide the crossbow towards her and she's got the crossbow So, Isaac gets out of the bathroom, comes face to face with Olga, aiming the crossbow right at him, and she shoots and just grazes the side of his head. And it stuns him.
Starting point is 01:11:45 He's like frozen, doesn't really react, just like kind of slowly reaches up to the side of his head and is feeling the blood. But it's missed him, basically. It just nicked him. And while this is happening, we see Olga. trying to reload this crossbow which is as we mentioned very cumbersome and she's struggling with that while he's just frozen there and you want to be like Isaac lunge at her this is like the moment to get the crossbow back like she can't get you with the crossbow right now but he's in shock and doesn't really come to in time to do that she gets the crossbow loaded again so he just
Starting point is 01:12:28 goes back into the bathroom, closes the door. Some amount of time passes. She doesn't take a shot. She's waiting him out. And eventually he opens the door and kind of peeks out. She's not in the hallway. He doesn't see her. So he crawls over to the desk where the phone is and sees that the phone line has been cut.
Starting point is 01:12:55 So he's like looking around. seeing if there's anything that can help him when he hears a little creak. Remember, there's a big hole in this wall with a little sneaky Heidi spot that he was able to access. And we, of course, see on the other side that now Olga is there
Starting point is 01:13:16 with the crossbow aimed through the hole. Just as he stands up just as he realizes this, she shoots and gets him in the leg. and he once again crawls back to that bathroom, locks himself in there. We'll get another flashback of Isaac arriving to the island the first time. The house is seemingly empty. Similar vibes. Similar terrible vibes. Similar terrible vibes.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Very derelict is what I want to call it. Daryliqued. Derelict. Dereleaked. one look I don't think so I quote that in my head a lot really just FYI yeah I don't know I don't know why it's a good one so it comes into my brain a lot so he's calling out hello is anybody here and I'm kind of thinking like is this what you do when you go there to kill someone you're like hello where are you I'm a strange man in your house and then he sits down at the kitchen
Starting point is 01:14:23 table where we have seen some pictures of the mom, a little creepy sketchbook that I don't think I mentioned where the mom just draws white circles page after page of white circles. He flips through to an empty page. It's like black paper that she's using a white chalk type thing. Flips to an empty page and writes
Starting point is 01:14:45 Mo Barrett wants you dead. Oh. So we're like, okay, he's come in here seemingly to warn this guy. He hears like a laugh, like a man's laugh, follows the noise to the basement door, which is already closed and locked.
Starting point is 01:15:08 He unlocks it, goes down, sees the crossbow, hears a little laugh again and goes behind kind of near where the boarded up furnace is, like there's maybe another little nook back, there, hard to tell, really dark, and sees the dad laughing and, like, pouring blood from his head. And Isaac just runs out of there. Okay, so the dad was already locked down there. Already locked down there. Yep. So why did he need Isaac to come for another, to cover his tracks? Oh, yeah, to put it so he could blame someone? Yeah, I guess so. But.
Starting point is 01:15:52 We're back on the mainland now, and he's back in his apartment talking to Mo. He's freaking out. He says, what took you so long? Mo's kind of like, I'm arranging my brother's funeral. Like, I have a lot to do. He's giving him his money. Isaac says, no, I didn't do anything. The door was already locked.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Did you lock it? He says, why would I lock it and then pay you to lock it? It doesn't make any sense. And Isaac is really confused by this. this and he's like I don't I don't know what what's going on and then Mo pulls out the note that says Mo Barrett wants you dead and says what were you what do you think would have happened if the police found this like you're trying to warn him and he says yeah I was going to warn him who would do that to their own brother which yeah I wonder what
Starting point is 01:16:46 he's going to do to you you fucking idiot not a smart thing to say to a man you know is trying to murder people. Mo says, just take the money and leave. I don't want to ever see you again. And, like, if you ever tell anybody about this, like, I'll find you, just threatens him. Isaac's like, okay, fine, I'm gone.
Starting point is 01:17:11 That night, this is, I think, where people think he's his landlord. He comes into, Isaac is just, like, plastered drunk, clearly, like, really haunted by this whole thing. and like hanging off his, or not hanging off, but like leaning over the edge of his balcony, just like chugging from the bottle, just getting, blacking out. When Mo comes into the apartment, it does seem like he has keys.
Starting point is 01:17:38 So this is maybe where he's the landlord. And is just like slowly, quietly creeping up behind him, seeing that he's on the balcony. And then we cut back to the present. The implication, of course, being that Mo. pushed him off the balcony, causing the accident that has caused the memory loss. So back in the bathroom, Isaac cuts the arrow out of his leg. There's like a pair of pliers in there. It looks really painful. And he doesn't know what to do when... Is it like thigh? Yeah, thigh right through. Oof. Yuck. When a little hidden door, like one of the
Starting point is 01:18:22 little panels of the bathroom just starts creaking open and rather than being scared of this, Isaac is like, oh, maybe this is a way that I can get out of the house without having to go past Olga because obviously he's trapped in this room and wants to get out of here. And so he pushes the panel completely aside. It's just barely big enough for him to crawl through. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. And now he's crawling through this, like, nasty crawl space filled with, you know, like electrical wiring and spider webs. It's dark and scary.
Starting point is 01:19:03 He still has his flashlight and he's kind of like army crawl, army crawl, army crawl, and then flashlight ahead to, like, see if the path is clear. It's just done in a way that, you know, someone's going to be there when he looks. He's like, crawl, crawl, crawl, crawl, look, crawl, crawl, look. And there's a little ledge that you can't see what is below the. the ledge. And as he crawl, crawl, crawls looks, there's just the mom's face. Oh, this shot is so scary. I don't know how to describe it. But she's just like peeking over the edge. And then like as soon as he like shines the light, she drops down out of sight again. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Ooh, I really don't like that. It's so scary, but it's also kind of funny. It's like a little peekaboo.
Starting point is 01:19:44 She's like, did he see her? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, and it's her corpsey self. Like she looks It's a dead corpse. Yeah. This was a ghost. Sneaking around. Sneaking around. And he's very scared by this, but continues crawling to try to find a way out of the house. And he ends up in the boarded up furnace with the corpse of the mom.
Starting point is 01:20:12 This didn't really work out. He is very creepy. doubt by her, but she does seem dead. She's once again, you know. Once again, dad, stay dead. Dead and motionless, uh, but with very lively eyes. And he sees the knife that Olga used to cut the hole in the board and he starts just like trying to saw through the board so he can get out of there. And he just keeps once again like looking back at the mom's corpse every couple seconds. it'll be like saw, saw, saw check, because he's like freaked out by her, obviously. It's scary.
Starting point is 01:20:51 He saw her earlier. Like, is she going to pop out again or what's going to happen? So he does saw, saw, saw, saw, look. Saw, saw, saw. And then he's just like, he's so freaked out by it that he has his beanie and he takes off his beanie and he just puts it over her whole head. Just like I'm like so freaked out by her. And then he saw, saw, saw, saws for a little longer. and then turns and looks and there is now a hole in the beanie just one of her eyes is looking at
Starting point is 01:21:25 which is once again pretty funny a little peekaboo and now he's like really saw him he's like fuck fuck fuck fuck but then he hears the little drumming rabbit drumming and sees someone coming down the basement steps and so he drop he hides tucks away we see that Olga is coming down the stairs she walks straight up to this furnace he's holding his breath being super quiet when she reaches in through that hole and pulls the arrow out of her mom's chest so presumably she's out of arrows because one went into his leg and the other one is in the wall in the bathroom that she can't reach so just as she gets the arrow we hear moe calling out Olga Olga, where are you?
Starting point is 01:22:18 And Olga comes down into the basement. He's very angry at her, yelling at her. Like, how did you mess this all up? Like, very, seems like she's really scared of him and is really like, it's, yeah, she's like in a harness. She's like kneeling down, cowering, and she's saying, like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And he asks, you know, where is Isaac, where to go? And she's like, he's locked in my room.
Starting point is 01:22:47 I just had to come down and get this other arrow. And then he notices the additional sawing, like, line in the boarded up furnace. Clearly, someone's been cutting through it. And maybe he, like, notices a little noise in there or something, too. But he turns and starts walking towards the hole. And he's looking around in it. And he's got a little flashlight, too, and he shines it. And he sees Isaac.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Isaac's just in there, nowhere to hide silently. Like, he can't, like, crawl back the crazy way that he came through without making noise. So I think he was just, like, frozen in hopes that he wouldn't be seen. But he gets seen. And Mo is like, go. Oh, like, gotcha. But then we hear a fuck. And Mo is shot in the back with a crossbow by Olga.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Oh, hell yeah, Olga. He's stunned, turns and looks at her. Can't even believe what's just happened. He's like reaching, feeling at the arrow. And she just slowly walks upstairs, goes, exits the basement, locks the door behind her, locks him in the basement. Oh, with Isaac. Yes. And the mom's corpse.
Starting point is 01:24:06 This wasn't a full kill shot. It's just a little chest shot. Correct. It looks like the back shoulder area. Okay. he then starts trying to convince Isaac he's like oh she shot me Isaac she's crazy like we need to team up and and take her down when she comes back down here like you should come out of there and we can get her together and we see from the outside the saw cutting through some more trying to cut a little human sized hole to be able to crawl through We see Mo holding up like a big metal pole type thing that he's planning to bludgeon Isaac with when he comes out. And then we hear over the intercom, over.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Over. Mo, I'm out. I'll send someone for you. And we see that Isaac has crawled out of the crawl space and found like a way back into a different part of the house near an exit. And Mo's eyes go wide, and the sawing continues. Oh, yes. Yes. He scoots, like, further and further back into this, like, darkness trying to hide from presumably ghost mom.
Starting point is 01:25:34 And he's just shining a flashlight at the corner that she would come around for so long. And we're just, we hear the, like, bored drop down someone. climb out. He's just shining the light. And then from around the corner, we just see the mom's eye right. Oh my gosh. She's like, hello. Is she still wearing her beanie? No, she's got the beanie's off. Mo screens cut to Isaac crawling through another little crawl space to be like that this one leads outside of the house. So I guess there's just crawl space like throughout throughout the house and he's figured it out how to fully get out of the house
Starting point is 01:26:16 he goes to the dog and unties the dog we see Olga comes to the door that's facing the dog with the crossbow but she doesn't have any arrows oh no more arrows
Starting point is 01:26:35 those were all of her arrows and she just watches as he unties the dog they look at each other and that's the end of the movie wait what whoa is there a boat there for him to take the dog is it the one that moe came in on yeah yeah okay i think so so whoa the implication is that he can leave he's leaving well that's the implication but i think it's important that he didn't that we didn't see that happen because he has memory problems too is he going to immediately forget everything that just happened well there's i there's a lot of different theories about this movie and i like that
Starting point is 01:27:22 there's all this subtext without really uh giving any solid answers everyone pretty much agrees that olga is like the victim of abuse by her dad and her uncle and some people even think that they would like bring other girls onto the island and hunt them and that's what they were hunting that were like right and that's why it's like the foxes sound like teenage girls mm-hmm mm-hmm but and so Olga maybe locked her dad in the basement because he was such a bad yes I believe old man was the one that locked her dad in the basement that is my feeling yeah dude maybe they hunted the mom too and what was the circles the circles the circles are the cutting of the hole from that perspective so that would have been like a premonition
Starting point is 01:28:18 of her being under the furnace because it's that's what it looks like when she cuts the circle hole when her mom when she finds her mom in there so her mom was having a premonition and I think so but the mom is also like cruel and seemingly abusive and so it's just like a really traumatic situation all around. I believe the uncle and dad killed the mom and then Olga locked her dad
Starting point is 01:28:53 in with her mom's corpse. He killed himself because of claustrophobia and also guilt. Being haunted perhaps. And being haunted. And then I think yeah, I think Isaac was just a loose end that Mo was probably hoping
Starting point is 01:29:11 Olga would kill or I don't know but Wow watching it is very scary and and the implications too of like
Starting point is 01:29:24 she's very scared she'll be attacked in her room at night Yes and the highest like Yeah there's like It's so yucky Yeah I really don't like it Whoa
Starting point is 01:29:37 Wow they do at one point say that harness was originally for a grandmother who was sleepwalked and didn't want to like sleepwalk into the ocean but i'm like so there's something really yeah bad about it not reach in this treatment of women in this home yeah and the bunny's supernatural i know that's yeah that's my other question who is the bunny the the theory is that the bunny is the mom that the mom is kind of leading them to find her She wants her daughter to find her and wants like the truth to be known type of thing. And then also is like luring the dad or Mo down there. I guess we didn't really see any of that happen.
Starting point is 01:30:20 But I kind of interpreted to be like she wants revenge. And also she wants to like people to know that she was murdered. And what a surprising little movie. Yeah. It's definitely like I like what you said about them not really revealing anything. Yeah. It makes it fun. It's like kind of just intriguing.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Well, anime makes it scarier because I feel like in real life you don't necessarily know what happened. Like in all like real life murders or missing persons cases, it's like you don't, most of the time you don't know what happened. You just know it was whatever it was is bad. Yeah. And that is scary enough for me. That's enough for me. That's enough for me. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Okay. Yeah, I got really scared. I wonder what this guy's going to do next. He's doing something with What's His Face from Adam Scott. Oh. But still set in Ireland, which I'm excited about. That's fun. Another scary.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to see Adam Scott in a scary other than Crampus, obviously, which we saw and loved. Well, Adam Scott was also briefly in The Monkey. Another drumming toy movie. Ooh, baby. Okay, that was fun. That was a fun one.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Yeah, I mean, I'm not furious with our patrons. Yes, I'm not furious. I was excited for this one and had been putting it off because I was scared. Once again, I'm shocked. This happens every time I Google Adam Scott where I'm shocked that he's 52. Oh, he's 52. He does have a little baby face. Huh.
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