Too Scary; Didn't Watch - DOGTOOTH with Charlie Bardey

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

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This is a Head Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And I am very excited about this week's movie. You guys are gonna be very upset.

Oh yeah. Ooh baby. And there are timestamps in the show notes if you want to jump straight to the recap. But first, I want to ask my dear, dear friends, Emily Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week? I just want to talk about how Silas has entered a new phase. And there have been some comments where people are like, oh, stories about babies are boring. And all I have to say to you is, that's my entire fucking life right now.

And you can just- There's timestamps in the show notes. There's timestamps in the timestamps in the show notes. So jump straight to the recap. You can pretty much guarantee that there will be a child-related story at the top of every episode for the next 18 years. So if you can't handle that, skip it.

Also, I think children are funny, but. Hot take. So Silas is like attached to me. He's very clingy. He will not leave my side. I will move, I'll be on one side of the room. Is he back to before? And he'll be next to me. By the way.

He's back before. Yeah, crazy. July 3rd. He literally like. Tom Cruise's birthday? Yeah, I know him and Tom Cruise have so much in common. They're both obsessed with you. Including dating Anna de Armas.

God, yeah. Um, so, but he, like, he's completely, he's very clingy, he's obsessed with me, he like won't leave my side. However, he also will not say he loves me. Like he won't do it. He won't do it. What is this, you guys?

What is this? Interesting. Like Tim will say, love you bud, like goodnight. And Silas will go, love you. He won't do it. He won't do it. What is this, you guys? What is this? Interesting. Like Tim will say, love you, bud. Like good night. And Silas will go, love you. And then I'll be like, all right, Silas. Whoa, but wait, okay.

Wasn't Silas at one point not saying I love you to Tim? Yes, he wouldn't say it in general. But now he will say to Tim, no big deal. And I'll say, Silas, say I love you. Say I love you to mommy. And his common response now is, I poop on your head. And he just says, I poop on your head. And I'm like, okay. It's too intimate.

It's too intimate maybe. It's too close. But right before we got on. Pooping on your head's pretty intimate. You would think so. He was like, by my side. And I was like, side buddy, you remember five minutes, five minutes I got to do my podcast.

And he was like, why, why do you have to do your podcast? Why? And I was like, well, it's my job. It's my job. And he goes, no, no, your job is pooping in my bed. That's what your job is. I was like. He wouldn't like it if that were the case.

I was like. He'd like it worse. Well, you've really been slacking on your job is. He wouldn't like it if that were the case. I was like, he'd like it worse. Wow, you've really been slacking on your job, Henley. Or have you not been, and do we have something else we need to talk about? I was like, you're right, that's my full-time job. My part-time job is this podcast, but I'll get right back to pooping in your bed. It is nonstop the poop talk, you guys.

It is all we talk about. It is the only thing we talk about in this house. Oh my God. I do remember when we came and visited, having to role play ice cream shop salesman and customer. And there was a lot of poop flavored ice cream, you better believe. Sorry, it's so gross.

And popsicle salesman, poop flavored popsicle. He thinks it's the funniest shit. And he's correct. It's like hardwired into our brains. I hope that there have been studies done. I'm sure they're not federally funded, but maybe our junior can get behind this. Seems like the kind of thing he'd care about.

He's like canceling cancer research and launching research into why are toddlers obsessed with poop? Let's get to the bottom of it. Anyway, so that's my scary thing is just, I'm excited for him to- Say he loves you again. One day, no, he's never said it. He's like never said it to me, ever.

Ever. One day. One day. He like knows it now and it's like a challenge. Yeah, he's having some fun with it. He's having a lot of fun. He'll say it someday. Well, my scary thing is bodily function focused as well.

So I'll go next, Emily, you already know it. This past weekend, we went to a friend's wedding and it was so fun. But I was in Europe for two weeks before that, not to brag. And so I have been having alcohol basically every single day for like a month. And this wedding was the final thing, final alcohol forward celebration. And I was really reaching my limit, heartburn through the roof, like having to pop what's it called?

Pepsid. Pepsid every day. And so on the final night of this wedding, you know when you start feeling so full that you can like feel it at the bottom of your throat, like stuff's like really coming back up, there's just nowhere for it to go. And I was like really battling with, I'd like to like continue being here. Oh no, Sammy. Oh no.

But, so I was like, I know what I'll do. I'll take another heartburn pill, of course, and popped one in my mouth. And rather than swallow it it like I normally do, I decided to chew it for some reason. And the second I bit into it, I threw up immediately into my mouth. Just in the- Sammy, I'm going to throw up. Okay, we have your trigger warning at the beginning of this. This is too much. This is too much bodily function talk. And covered my mouth with my hand. Sorry, mouth was completely filled with vomit. On the- I'm gonna throw up. Sammy.

Sammy. In the like dance floor portion of the wedding, I'm dart to the bathroom. I see the groom's mother try to stop me to speak to me like she was gonna say hi. I like wave her off, shake my head. No, no, no, sorry, Molly. Of Of course not saying anything because I couldn't speak. And then guys, I'm actually a throw up. Oh no. Her eyes are watering. This is like the human

sent to beat episode all over again. Okay. Don't say that. Okay. Well, the story's done. And then I threw up and then I went home. So that's, that's it. But I haven't thrown up in a long time. And I Joel recently threw up for the I went home. So that's it. But I haven't thrown up in a long time. And Joel recently threw up for the first time in a long time. For the first time in like 15 years, he was so upset. And I really was feeling for him because I too was shocked and I felt betrayed by my body

and it just really caught me off guard even though there were so many warning signs. Oh no. We're not young anymore. No. We can't just bite into that antacid on the dance floor. We can't take risks. Yeah.

So throwing up in front of all your friends and their family is a little scary, but I made it through. You didn't do it. You could have fully ruined that dance floor. You could have ruined it. It could have been worse. It could have been much worse. Yes.

I handled it. Wow. Proud of you. Thank you. That's what being an adult is. It's handling yourself in situations, yes. I handled it. Wow, proud of you. Thank you. That's what being a Delta is. It's handling yourself in situations like that. That's amazing. Whoa, I almost literally threw up into the microphone though. That would have been crazy if that happened.

That would have been so crazy. Mine is not bodily fluid related, but I will actually piggyback on talking about that wedding weekend. It was wonderful. I'm still so tired, but we stayed, all of us in this lovely house on the property where the wedding was held in Topanga.

And Joel and I got the master suite and it had the biggest bathroom I've ever, ever had the privilege of using. It was gorgeous. I took a photo of it. It was huge. This, it had a huge cloth foot tub. It had a huge shower, like with a built-in seat. One of those shower heads is one from the top,

one from the front, one little arm. It had a separate little door, toilet area, like a half bath, but in the bath. Full, almost like a spa, locker room, cabinets for all your shit to store. An island in the middle with a two- the middle with like a two-sided mirror. Not a two-way mirror. Not a two-way, a mirror, two sides of it are a mirror.

And it had a day bed. It had like a window, little full-sized bed that Joel truly was in every second he could be. Like every time I couldn't find him, he was just laying in that bed in the bathroom. It has, oh, heated floors. I just like, I didn't know a bathroom could be so much. And you know, I love bathrooms. I actually like really love bathrooms. There's some really nice bathrooms out there, man. But now I'm like, I'll never be okay until I have this bathroom. Like this is,

I've now seen what it is like. This bathroom was like bigger than our living room. Like I cannot is like this bathroom was like bigger than our living room. Like I cannot to be wealthy, but also just like I could, maybe I need an apartment that's like all bathroom, like all sacrifice, I think every other room. Just remodel a place to be entirely bathroom. God, it was heaven. I mean, it has a bed in it. So it really does.

It's really all you need. Oh my God, what if your bedroom is your bathroom? That's gonna be less ideal, but honestly, if it was like this, I could see it working. That's just New York City where there's a toilet in your bedroom. Yeah. No, I want a bed in my bathroom.

Or those old New York City apartments where it's just like a bathtub behind a curtain and then your kitchen. I had the similar bathroom experience in Costa Rica when we stayed at like a fancy hotel in Costa Rica, but it honestly like freaked me out. I was like, I don't know what to do with all this space. I could have like a 15 person yoga class in this bathroom. Like there's so much tile in here. What is happening and why do we need this much space? We don't need it.

It's too much. No, I'm like, I need it. I need it. Extensive bathroom storage, are you kidding me? Oh my God, a designated like robe closet. I just want somewhere to put my towels, is that? I know, Sammy. I bought a king size bed this year, as you know, and none of that bedding fits fucking anywhere. I feel like I didn't have the house,

I didn't know the closet space needed to comfortably have a king-size bed. And what a huge problem that is for me. That's huge. So some pretty scary weeks all around. Absolutely. Yet again. And let's top it off with talking about dog tooth.

Motherfucker. You motherfucker. I'm so upset. I'm like really upset actually. Great. And my stomach hurts and you almost threw up already. I'm on the goddamn edge. Dog Tooth came out in 2009. It was directed by your ghost Lanthimos written by your ghostos and Ephemys Philippou starring, oh, get ready for the most perfect Greek

pronunciations you've ever heard in your life. Christos Styrgouliou, Michelle Valley, Anglici Papoulia, Christos Pasalis Marizoni and Anna Kalitsidou. And we have a guest with us to talk about this film. He is one of the hosts of fellow head gun podcast exploration live. Charlie Bardet. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you so much, everyone. Oh my gosh.

You guys can be mad at Charlie because I feel like he picked it. I did pick it. I did pick it. Okay, well, Charlie. Really mad. Strong start. I just met you and you can go fuck yourself. Yeah. You know what? I get that all the time. You're not the first person to say that kind of stuff to me.

So I picked it because I wanted to see, I've seen other of Yorgos' work and I had a friend who, he always like pulled out that movie as like his kind of cred. Where, you know, I'm like, oh I love the favorite He's like, yeah, it's good, but it's not as good as dog, too Everyone's like, oh actually like mainstream your ghost who cares you need to see So let me take this opportunity and I don't really like also horror movies I'm also kind of similar where like great especially like a jump scare and I kind of knew that this was was going, but I actually didn't really know it was going to be like as kind of freaky as it was.

I was like, yeah, it's going to be fine. And then it was freaky, but it wasn't freaky in the like horror movie. Your ghost is a very specific type of freaky. Yeah. Your ghost is like peak scary to me because it's just like, it's just upsetting interpersonal dynamics of people doing the worst possible things to each other, making the weirdest wildest decisions. Mixed with like, I mean, we'll get there, we've got, we'll get there.

But like also mixed with like at least one like bodily maiming that I'm like, I can't, I fucking, I can't. Definitely like holds on, like we'll get there. Yeah, I know, I'm gonna, we'll get there. There's definitely like some of that for sure. Yeah, I'm gonna hate it. But before that, did anything scary happen to you this week, Charlie? Yeah, I was thinking about this a bunch of stuff. Like I'm scared all the time.

So like, yes. But one thing I was thinking about is I did a long drive yesterday. I drove for like five hours and just driving is so scary. And like I've never seen speaking of horror movies, I've never seen, I want to say final destination, but like that even just like knowing the concept of like the logs coming out from the back of the big truck and just like driving. And you're like next to a truck. I'm like, this is so fucking scary.

Like the truck is going to fall over because you're like, I know how fast we're going and I know how tall the truck is and how physics works. The truck is going to fall over because you're like, I know how fast we're going and I know how tall the truck is. I know how physics works. The truck is going to fall over and crush me. And I'm just in the car like with my friend. That's not cool. And then it's like there's a million like little scary things that do happen.

Like I got cut off by a guy who was pulling like a boat on a trailer, like truly like on the highway. I really had to stop short. And I was like, that's crazy. Like I could have died. It's really crazy that we just drive. It's like that happens anytime I drive. It's like, there's actually like four close calls.

Yeah. And I've never been in an accident. And a five hour drive, the longer the drive, the more close calls. The more and more, yeah, exactly. You get like tired. Kind of spirals, cause yeah, you start to get tired. And do you ever start to feel like it's a little bit

of a video game and you're like way, way driving and I should actually like not right. You're like lanes. I'm trying to decide like suss out like you know what's the most efficient way for me I'm like did it did it you know and people try some people drive really fast and actually saw also while I was driving one car tried to like kind of you know a hundred two hundred yards in front of me tried tried to merge into another car, just merge into the car in the blind spot. And that was really scary because I was like, so that could have been really

bad. And that would have infected me like, you know, those two cars, then that car had to like swerve to the shoulder. Well, well too much. And then came back. I was like, whoa, that happened. Everybody was okay. And then that car came back and then kind of in what I think is like a road rage thing started following the other car. Oh, god. And I know, you know, we kind of lost it.

And I slowed down. I was like, let me not be involved with this. But like road rage, following stuff on the highway, like yoinks. You're playing with fire. Playing with fire, man. That is tough. So that was my kind of scary thing.

But I ultimately made it. Like, I made it and I'm so glad you're okay congratulations thank you thank you and me too ultimately I that just reminded me last night was driving home from Orange County to LA and I drove past Disneyland during the fireworks show and I was on the freeway and I was kind of like this is really dangerous because I just like couldn't stop looking at the fireworks and I felt like everybody was doing the same thing. And so I kept being like, we're all gonna get in a huge accident

because this is too distracting. They shouldn't be allowed to do this. And I think it should be illegal. I remember when they put up that new, they put up that sign for the soccer team in LA that I can't remember their name of on 101 or something. And it was so bright. You needed to wear like sunglasses to pass by it.

And I'm this. Why are there not regulations around? Not that I'm calling for more. I just I don't want to speak at political. But like seriously that and then also like the sphere. Like there are things out here where I'm like, it's too goddamn bright for my eyes. I'm being temporarily blinded. It's fucked up. And by the way, I think you can call for regulations

on advertising on roads. I think I'm like, yeah, let me. That seems fair. Let me go ahead and, that's not even, I mean, I guess it does have like a political valence, like it's not libertarian. No, no, no. But I'm comfortable being like, yeah.

Which we all are. Right, by the way, like I know this is a libertarian podcast. I hear you. Yeah, yeah. I feel like there's just recently been a lot of divisive conversation after Ezra Klein released Abundance, the book Abundance, where everyone is now talking about regulations and in fighting within the Democratic Party about regulations. And I feel like it's a hot button topic that I know nothing about and don't want to speak on.

You're right. Like, let me go ahead and say out of that. Yeah, yeah, I'll let that one pass me by. Like the traffic people chasing each other. We're just going to keep our distance. Yeah, exactly. I think that's the right fit for us. Yeah, feels right, feels right. Charlie, so you said you are not a big horror fan.

Was there anything as like a kid that really scared you, a horror movie that put you off and you like saw it at a slumber party or something, and you're like, hey, fuck this forever. Yeah, but they're not even, they weren't even horror movies. I would love to hear them. Here's my horror movie stories. I saw the first Lord of the Rings with my grandmother.

Was it very scary? What's going on? Oh, with your grandmother too? Yeah, legit, maybe like 20 minutes in, I was like, we are not doing this. I have to go. I'm not doing this. There's three and a half hours left,

and I can't keep going. I was just like, this is fucking, I'm so scared, I'm completely terrified. Were you in the theaters? we're not doing this. And it was like I literally like almost had to leave and my friend's older sister was like, had to cover my eyes. I remember that, just that feeling. And I remember when I was in middle school going on a date with a girl who's now my friend, this guy, shout out. And we saw the movie The Knowing with Nicolas Cage. I never saw it, but I can picture the cover of it, or like the poster. Yeah, like it's a guy, he has some access to a numerical pattern saying something about it, what's gonna happen. And there's a scene with an alien that I was so scared

I had to turn around and close my eyes. And I was like 14, trying to woo a girl. It was too late for me to be doing that. So I get really, really scared. The last horror movie I saw in theaters was Hereditary. Which was so scary. That's a big one. That's a big one, yeah.

But I'm so glad I saw it because it's amazing. It's actually a sensational movie. I think one of the top 10 movies I've seen in the last five years, 10 years, whatever. But I was so scared. Yeah, it's a really scary one. Yeah, that's a big one. The Double Black Diamond for sure. I know, I know it is actually really scary. I was like scared. Yeah, it's a really scary one. Yeah, that's a big one. The double black diamond, for sure.

I know, I know it is actually really scary. I was like, this is horrible. And it's scary in a million ways. There's jump scares and there's like drag. Just trauma, grief. Just horrible things happening. Horrible body, like the, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Have you guys seen it?

No. No, I mean, Sammy has, obviously. Remember that I- You watched it tiny. I watched it tiny in the corner of my screen during the bright daylight during work hours. So I think that counts. And we did a recap podcast,

but also we were like fully blackout drunk. That was our drunkest one for sure. Yeah. Oh, that was our drunkest one. I'm pretty drunk right now. So let's try to beat it. I don't know about you for you guys, but I'm, I won't remember any of this.

Yeah. I am sober. Sorry. I just wanted to say that while I was in hereditary, in the theater, there was a man sitting like three seats down for me by himself, that all of his change kept falling out of his pockets and he was getting on his hands and knees

and crawling to pick it up. And that like really tainted the experience. It like really added. That is the scariest thing I can imagine. It enhances it. It's almost like he's a plant, an Ari Aster plant. He's like, I want this man in every theater. It's so like creepy and a weird action.

It is kind of weird. I'm like, wait till the movie's over and get it then. It also feels like a thing you do to be like, okay, so the like my huge weapon is under my seat. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to drop all my change so that nobody knows. It's like it feels like it's like something the fucking joker would do to like distract you. Yes, it does.

That man is the joker. And there was that movie theater shooting during the dark night. Yes. I think about it. I think about a shooting basically every time I go into a lot of of course, any time I'm in a theater, I'm like, this could be it. Or kind of like any public place really that's like crowded. It's like, well, yeah, that is what it's like.

Wait, I'm realizing I haven't seen two other horror movies. Oh, tell us. I saw Get Out. Great. And I loved it. A great horror movie. But Jump Scary for sure. Jump Scary. I was so scared of that.

And then Megan, which... Oh, sure. Not so scary to me and didn't totally like... You know, it didn't quite land as... Not my fave, like something about like the campiness. It didn't all like coalesce. Yes. Yeah.

But that's okay. She had such a good TikTok dance and she was such a good brand ambassador for Coach or whatever that was. I think I was grading on like the marketing of it. Yeah. That's why I did so well. When someone says something is so over marketed, you're like, I get it. I get it.

Right. You like did the thing. You had a bajillion dollar marketing budget. Like cool. And I saw it and I was like, whatever. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like shut up. Shut up. Well, they're making a second one so you can go see that one in a couple months. marketing budget, like cool.

Well, okay, about Dogtooth, let me give you some stats. It has a 93% on Rotten Tomatoes. I'll be the judge of that. 73 on Metacritic, 7.1 on IMDB. These are pretty high ratings. And the budget was 250,000 euro. And it made 1.4 million dollars for some reason. So somebody do that. It's a different currency.

I did not do the math. So it made money and that's like really low budget. Yeah. That's a really low budget. That's a really low budget. Shockingly low budget. Was this his first movie or just his first one that we really know about?

Yes, it's the first one we know about. It's the first one we know about. It's actually his third feature. He had directed a lot of music videos as well, but this one kind of put him on the map globally because it went to Cannes and it won pre in certain regard. I've not heard of this award before, but it won something at Cannes basically and then was nominated at the Oscars for best foreign film. So, oh wow.

Huge for Greece. And like I was reading all these reviews about it that are like these rapturous Greek reviewers. You know, Greek people have a lot of national pride, I've heard and learned. And so they were like, this has done such good things for Greek cinema. And it is so, like there is a lot of national pride or like reviewers are really happy about it, whatever.

I don't know what I'm talking about. Respect. Yes, I mean, yeah. I don't know what I'm talking about. Respect. Yes. I mean, yeah. My first knowledge of this movie was that some friends of mine in college, maybe my freshman year of college, because that would have been like,

not long after this movie came out, dressed up as characters from Dog Tooth for Halloween. And I remember being like, I don't know what the fuck you're doing, but I don't like it. Like I did, I was like, I don't know what this is, but I hate it. And so the name Dog Tooth has been like embedded in my, they't like it. Like I was like, I don't know what this is, but I hate it. And so the name Dog Tooth has been like embedded

in my, loved it. And I was like, I will never, whatever this is, I will never experience it. And I have managed to be true to that for, I don't know, 16 years and here we are. So I'm just looking at the Wikipedia page for Dog Tooth, obviously just like the quotes from other people. Cause I want to know what they say.

David Lynch is called Dog Tooth, a fantastic comedy. So that's not, that's not what you want. I'm going to focus on whatever's comedic about this. I mean, your guys is funny. Your guys is funny. I definitely think it's funny. It's funny. Okay. Let's, let's lean into the comedy you guys.

I know, I know. Let's just lean in hard. But it's like dark. It's the same way. It's a dark comedy. It's the same way in which. People think killing of a sacred deer is funny. Okay, let's lean into the comedy, you guys. I know, I know, let's just lean in hard. It's the same way. It's a dark comedy. It's the same way in which- People think killing of a sacred deer is funny. And I fucking, it's the worst thing I've ever done

to myself is watch that. Wait, is that also your ghost? Yes. Yes. Oh, I've never seen that. Oh, it's hard. It's a tough one. Well, we will watch the trailer at the end. That'll be on our Patreon.

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this one I was like, this is the first time I've actually been a little confused about which trigger warnings to give. Cause like child abuse question mark, we'll get into that more later. Okay. I would go ahead and say yes on child abuse. Okay, sure.

Let me just be the arbiter of that and say, if you're going to get triggered by child abuse, this is going to be tough. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That's me, that's me, that's me. That's me. If you have to ask. I can't wait, I can't wait.

My stomach feels so good. My stomach ache is gone completely. Yay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it won't come back. She's reached peak physical condition. Okay, so we begin with a tape recorder that is playing a woman saying definitions to words that are incorrect. It's like the C is a type of chair that you sit in,

like the armchair we have in the living room. And we see three people listening intently to this tape in a bathroom. They're kind of in their underwear. Yeah, and it's silent. I feel like the way the beginning, the first 20 minutes of the movie is structured is like if you don't know what's going on, it doesn't actually give you a lot of context. Yeah, it's silent. I feel like the way the beginning, the first like 20 minutes of the movie is structured is like, if you don't know what's going on, it doesn't actually give you a lot of context.

Yeah, it's confusing. You're watching them listen to this tape and you're like, what are they talking about? Like the words are wrong. You're like, am I missing it? Are they missing it? And then these three people who I think you find out are siblings, and they're like young adults, probably in their like 20s, but with this kind of like naive childlike countenance. Yeah. I don't know if I'm using that word right. Yeah, I think so. That seems right to me. probably in their like 20s, I remember the first scene and this gives like a sense of like with their world a little bit. They stop listening to the tape and the youngest, the girl, there's again there's two girls and a boy. The youngest girl is like, can we play a game? Let's play a game where I'll put my, we'll all put our fingers under the hot faucet and we'll see how long we can leave it in there.

And whoever leaves it in the longest wins. And they're all like, okay. That could be done a million times. Let's do it again. And they're all like, okay. For reference, the actress that plays the oldest was 34 at the time of this. So it's like they're not children exactly, but they are behaving as such. Got it. So yeah, we see them playing this game together, essentially in their underwear in the bathroom and then hard cut to a woman in the passenger seat of a car being driven in a blindfold. We hear a man is driving and asking her questions,

like did you wash your hair? Are you wearing perfume? It's again, very disorienting. We do not know what's going on. Does she seem like a captive or this is like a thing she participated in? No, she seems like at ease actually. Okay.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. So just with the blindfold. She doesn't have any like thing. She's not tied up in any way. It's just the blindfold. And they arrive at a house with very high fences and go in through a security gate that closes behind them. And we see that we are in the house that we were in previously in the opening scene and this man is the father of the household and he brings in this woman, her name is Christina, into his son's bedroom. His

son is waiting there in his underwear. His dad kind of fixes the son's hair as he leaves the two of them in there and they very unceremoniously like get naked. Is she still blindfolded? No, she's taking the blindfold off. And they kind of sit with their legs crossed over one another. She starts jerking them off. We're hearing the sounds of airplanes flying overhead.

It's all just... Wait, is the dad still there? No, the dad gave him some privacy. Okay, that's very generous of him. A cursory privacy. And they have like totally mechanical rote sex. Okay. Passionless sex. Which is, I feel like, one of Yorgos' kind of,

it's kind of one of his things he likes to... Yes. Yeah. And is that where after she leaves and then she talks to the sisters? Yes. She talks to the sisters. Oh, and she's like,

the sisters are really excited to see her. Yeah. And they're like, oh, can we sit next to her? Yeah, it does kind of seem like this is maybe the only visitor that comes to the house because they are very excited that she is there. They're asking her about her headband, has little gemstones in it. They've never seen anything like that before.

They're like fascinated by her. They ask her if she's staying for dinner. The eldest daughter says like, we're having burgers for dinner. The dialogue is all like very unnatural, like the opposite of naturalism, very like stilted. And Christina says, burgers are one of my favorite meals. And the eldest daughter says, what are the others? And she says, fish soup and cheese pie. And she says, fish soup and cheese pie are perfect.

That sounds lovely. Just like very strange conversations. Yeah, just it's odd. And yeah, then they take a video together as if it's a photo. They all like sit together on the couch and the dad uses a camcorder to film them and they all smile as if it's a photo

and then switch places so that each of the daughters can sit closer to Christina. Very strange. We don't quite understand what's happening there. After they take the video, Dad puts blindfold back on Christina, takes her back in the car, takes her away. Ah ha, so perhaps she's meant to not know where they live? That's the idea.

Then there's a few like montages of the three quote unquote kids playing in the yard. They have a pretty big yard with a pool and a lot of grass, really high bushes that sort of cover the fences that are keeping them in. Okay, so they don't leave. This is where they stay forever. This is where they stay. It seems like that. that are keeping them in. over the fence. And there's some reference to like, and he's like, well, my brother started it. Yes. And they're like, the parents kind of react and they're like, your brother didn't do that. And you're kind of like, what do you mean? Like you're the brother. So it's

a little confusing. Yeah. Because you're like, are you talking about your brother? The whole first act? Yeah. It's pretty, or maybe even more than that. It is. Yeah. You're just like, what are you talking about? There's a mother and father is a mother. We see that night when they're having the burgers for dinner, the youngest daughter, they get ready for dinner like very formally, by the way, too, they like wear their nice clothes. The son like shines his shoes to go to their family dinner table.

Now there is something nice about that. What if that in and of itself is a sinister. What if we treated, yeah, at home dinners like an event worth dressing up for. That's honestly, side note, feels really libertarian. Yes. And theme. The youngest daughter says,

"'Mom, could you pass me the phone?' And her mom passes her the salt shaker. And so we're kind of putting a little bit of that earlier tape recording together of like things have different names in this house or certain words are being given in correct definitions. Because they don't want them to like know what a phone is. Because they don't want them to know

how to like reach the outside world. Or if they ever did, they wouldn't know how to communicate anything because all their... Or yeah, right. If they got outside, they wouldn't be able to be like, oh, I need a phone type of thing. Whoa, that is really, really fucked up.

That's sadistic. You can really do a lot with a child. So already, I mean, there might be more, but I'm gonna say child abuse, yeah. Yeah, the question wasn't whether the abuse was happening or not. It was like, they're not children. You're not actively watching-

Sure, but they were. But they were. You have to imagine that it was, you know. Yeah, fair enough. Oh, right, for sure. We all're not children. You're not actively watching. Sure, but they were. Yes. But they were. You have to imagine that it was, you know. Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Oh, right, for sure. We all start as children.

And now that's a good point. Yeah, yeah, we all do. Thank you. That's inevitable. That's just how that goes. Sure, sure, sure. Got it. Okay.

So at dinner, we find out that there's kind of a behavioral scoring system that happens. The dad gives them stickers for good behavior and whoever gets the most stickers gets to choose their entertainment for the night. The son has the most stickers. He's very excited and he chooses to watch their home movies. They're all pretty excited about it.

Honestly, they like pull up in front of the TV and sorry, I do have to let us get through this recap, but I, I want to bring that back. I'm just picturing being a kid and having like a chart of like when you did your chores and got everything's done. Like my parents weren't these parents. I just want to say that. And I might be thinking about school, not at home, but I'm like, I want to start doing a sticker system for my cats and like the cats that get the most stickers, like get something. That's fun. Like I'm gonna, I'm going to do that is what I'm saying. Okay, great.

Yeah, there's a lot of fun tips, not fun tips from this movie. Yeah. So we see them watching home videos. The younger daughter is like lip syncing along with them. They've watched these 1 million times and they're still so excited. What else do they get to choose from?

Do they get to choose other things besides home videos? Maybe like listening to their grandfather singing. That comes later. Yeah, I don't know. This is the only one we see, but it seems limited. It's limited for sure. But, you know, little games, dances you kind of see throughout the movie. You can kind of imagine these like kind of weird, wholesome-ish like family. Yeah, very homeschooling. Very homeschooling. No offense.

I mean, that's the whole premise of the movie basically. It's like, it's weird, very homeschooly. Very homeschooly. No offense. I mean, that's the whole premise of the movie, basically. It's like, it's weird to be homeschooled. It's weird. It's all like this in the movie. It's exactly like this. And it's pretty weird. It's pretty weird. Yes.

They're in the yard the next day, and there's airplanes flying overhead. And one of the daughters says, I wish it would fall. The older daughter says, it falls. I'll get it. And then mother slaps the daughters says, I wish it would fall. The older daughter says, it falls, I'll get it. And then mother slaps her, says, whoever deserves it will get it. Again, we're like, what are they talking about?

We see the dad getting in his car and driving to work, the little security gate opening, letting him out. And we see that Christine, Christina, I can't remember, we know who I'm talking about, one of those, is a security guard at the office that he works at. And again, he checks in with her like, do you like the perfume we got you? Like, when will we be seeing you again?

As he's in the office, we see that his coworkers believe that his wife is in a wheelchair and like, doesn't leave the house and don't seem to know about his children. And then back at home, we see the daughters sitting on a bed together. They're essentially playing doctor. The younger daughter fancies herself a little bit of a... Medical professional.

Medical professional and is... I bet I'm not gonna like where that goes. It's like... For some reason, she does have some anesthesia Medical professional. Medical professional. And is- I bet I'm not going to like where that goes. It's like, for some reason she does have some anesthesia and she's like, let's play another game. We'll knock ourselves out and whoever wakes up first wins. So this is kind of the doctor type games they're playing where they like- Chloroforming themselves. Yeah, they're like chloroforming themselves. Yeah, that sounds fun. I'll do that. We see the dad driving home from work and picking up some water and groceries and

stuff. And he cuts the labels off everything and throws it in the trash so that everything's unmarked in the home. And then that night the mom and dad use a little like cassette player with two headphone jacks to listen to music while they have sex. And the sex is, when the son has sex in the movie, there's no kissing, they don't kiss at all.

And this one, the kissing is really intense. It's like very sloppy, like loud, loud kissing. So at first I was uncomfortable by not kissing, and then I was like, well, now loud kissing. So at first I was uncomfortable by not kissing and then I was like, well, now the kissing's making me uncomfortable. So I guess lose, lose, lose. You win your ghost. Fine, there's no good way to have sex.

They're playing more games the next day. We see the older daughter sneaking out some cake to throw over the fence for their brother that we don't really know too much about. Ooh. Dad brings Christina over again. Wanna go with Christina? Yeah, I think that's right.

Great. Sounds Greek. Mm-hmm. And she, again, has the very awkward sex with the son. I think she tries to get him to go down on her and he won't do it. And he's like, I like what we did last time. She's like, okay.

And as she's leaving, she swings by the eldest daughter's room to talk to her, but then she closes the door behind her and we're like, oh, what's going on here? And Christina offers to the older daughter, I'll give you my sparkly headband, but what are you going to give me in return? And the older daughter's like, uh, looking around the room like desperately for something

like good to trade. And she's like, uh, this pencil maybe as a full eraser. She's like, no, she's like, what about this tape measure? It retracts when you press a button automatically, like just so childlike and innocent. And Christina drops her pants and is like, how about, I don't want either of those things, how about if you lick me, I'll give it to you. Oh, here we go.

Thank you, your ghost. Here we go. Christina, my goodness. My goodness. Yeah. She needs a more dynamic job to be in a security guard. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have enough going on during the day.

So the older daughter gets on all fours and licks her in a very up and down type way. I guess I don't need to be describing it too intensely, but it is a very... Oh, it's so sad. Does she seem sad about it or is she kind of like whatever? Oh, it's so sad. Does she seem like sad about it or is she kind of like whatever? No, it's like...

No, she's totally like, she's like, okay. Yeah, it's like all very matter of fact. She's like, I want the headband and this is what she's asking me to do. She doesn't understand what's happening. Yeah, she doesn't realize it's like a sexual act probably. Right. So then Christina leaves, she gets the headband

and is later talking to her sister, her younger sister, and is like, hey, if I give you something, will you lick me? Oh, no! Okay, I... I should have known that this is exactly what this is gonna go, and I am... Me too, me too.

Fuck. And I can't remember what she gives her, maybe she gives her the headband, but she's like, okay, where do you want me to lick you? And she's like, on my shoulder. And so her sister licks her on her shoulder and she gives her whatever she was going to give her. So she just thinks like the licking is the thing and it can be kind of anywhere.

Oh, okay. That's a relief. Oh, well, I mean, for now, Hen, for now. Yeah, it's all going to be fine after this, I bet. It's a relief for now. Yeah, it's all gonna be fine after this, I bet. It's a relief for now. So another airplane flies over their yard and we see the mom behind a bush making like eyes at the dad like trying to get his attention but the kids can't see her and she has a toy airplane in her hand and she throws it into the yard. Dad sees it, kids don't see it. And he turns as the airplane flies kind of out of sight,

he turns to the kids and says, ah, it fell in the yard, the airplane fell in the yard. And they all dart running to chase this toy airplane. The oldest daughter gets it and she's like, I got it, I got it, I got the airplane. toy airplane, the oldest daughter gets it and she's like, I got it, I got it, I got the airplane. So that's fun. And the brother is like very mad that he didn't get it and grabs it from her, or he's trying to grab it from her and she throws it over the fence to like

get it away from him. And he's sulking and looking out after it. And then he walks back into the kitchen and she's just waiting there for him and slices his arm with a knife as soon as he walks in. She's very unexpected. It looks like a bad cut. He's like spurting blood. It looks very painful. Well, yeah. Yeah.

And we see Cutto, the mom, slapping the shit out of this daughter and locking her in her room. And he, son tells the dad when he gets home, and we see the dad opening the security door. And the son is too scared to go past the property line. And that even the dad won't just walk out and grab the plane, he gets into the car and drives like five feet to then open the car door and reach and grab the toy airplane and then reverses back in.

And when the car's back in and the gate is closed, then he like gives it to the boy. What? Pretty weird. And when the car's back in and the gate is closed, then he gives it to the boy. Pretty weird. I feel like I didn't hear you say three words and then it made me not have any idea what the fuck was going on. I like have no, but I'm you kind of get the general thing. Yeah, they're scared to leave the property.

And the parents are going to great lengths to keep them hidden from anything outside. Yeah, and then this is also a pretty standard Yorgos type scene. There is somehow a cat that appears in the yard. No, I forgot you. And all three children look terrified. They've never seen a cat before it seems, and they're screaming. The son grabs some garden shears

and very slowly approaches it. We get a shot of the cat looking really cute, little black and white tuxedo cat, like staring up at him. And he kills it with the garden shears, stabs it a bunch, all the sisters are screaming. Okay, I mean, I call bullshit on that. You've never seen a cat before in your life. First time you see it and you think you're scared of it.

Come on. I was going to say the same thing. I actually this is the only thing in the movie that, like, to me, strain credibility within the world of the movie. I'm like, by the way, it's Greece. There's cats everywhere. Right. Right. Like I would have gotten in by now. It's like if one is getting in now, like one would have gotten in before.

So I don't think it works. I agree. But it's necessary to the plot. But I do think he could have figured it out another way, but that flagged for me too. Like it could have been like a possum or like something. I don't know what the trash animals are in Greece. A rarer, just like a scarier looking.

Or their response to the cat is like, this is what we always do when we see a cat as opposed to the first cat we've ever seen. That's a good idea. Exactly. That's a good idea. Your, right, yeah. That's a good idea. Your goes to your listening. Okay, we have notes.

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So we see the mom calling the dad. She has like a secret phone hidden in a locked cabinet in their room and calls the dad to tell him about this event. And he's like, okay, okay, this is an opportunity. I'll handle it. We see him tear up his clothes, cover himself in fake blood as he's arriving home from the office. He comes in looking scary and covered in blood and all his clothes are torn up and all the kids are looking at him wide-eyed and he says, your brother is dead. He was killed by a creature like the one in the garden. He made a mistake venturing out into the world before he was ready and he was killed by a cat. That's what these are called, cats.

They're extremely dangerous. They love human flesh. They'll tear you apart with their really sharp claws. And the only way you can be safe is if you stay inside and like never go out into the garden alone. Wait, so did they have a brother who's escaped somehow? I think so. I think yes. Wait, so did they have a brother who's escaped somehow? I think so.

Is that what you think? I think yes. But it doesn't like totally give you clear answers. Okay. It's ambiguous actually. Yeah. Oh, that's yeah, that's really because if that is the case and then they just think that he's like living on the other side of the fence,

like directly on the other side of the fence. Right. Yeah, that's why they're throwing, she's like throwing cakes like over. They're like, you know. Well, because their world is so small, where else could he possibly go? Right. Right. In their minds.

Yeah, it's dark. It's dark. The dad makes them all practice barking. They get on their hands and knees and they're barking to prepare for the next time a cat might come. Then that night we see the sisters laying together in bed in a way that's a little, they're always kind of in their underwear or in bathing suits and they're in their underwear

in bed together and the younger sister's laying her head between her sister's legs and biting her inner thigh. And then she asks her again, like, if I lick you, will you give me something? Older sister's like, I don't have anything to give you. And she's like, well, that's okay. Like, where do you want me to lick you? And the older sister like points to her hip and she's like, where do you want me to lick you? And the older sister like points to her hip and she's like, this is a good place. You could lick me here. And it's just like unbearable to watch, so horrible.

I feel like that's a good way to describe your ghost films. Unbearable to watch. It's just unbearable. So many, so many. It's like nothing terrible is happening, but also the worst thing ever is happening. Yeah. Like it's. It's so many, it's so many. It's like nothing terrible is happening, but also the worst thing ever is happening. Yeah. Like it's, it's.

It's both. Yeah, so she licks her hip and her stomach and it's just, you know, a very unpleasant scene. Then that night they're again having dinner all around the dinner table and they're reciting these rules or things that they've learned that their parents have taught them.

Where he says like, okay, a man's most creative years are when? And they say between 30 and 40. And he says, and a woman's, and they say between 20 and 30. And damn. Oh man. Well, and then he says, and a child is ready to leave the house when? And they say when their dog tooth falls out. Oh, okay. I'm wondering when dog tooth was going to come in. What's a dog tooth? What's dog tooth in this world? You'll find out. Okay. And he reiterates that either of the dog teeth, if you lose those, then it's safe.

And the only other safe way to leave the house is in the car. And when can you learn to drive? And they say when your dog tooth grows back in. What? Great. What the fuck is this? And then he says, should we listen to grandfather sing? And they all say, yes, yes, yes.

And he puts on a Frank Sinatra record. Oh, wow. There's those lucky kids. Wait, it's the funniest scene in the movie because the father, like he puts on the record, he plays it and is like sitting there kind of seriously like translating the lyrics to them, but the lyrics are like obviously just like really wrong and he's like, so he's listening really seriously

as he's singing like, what song is it? It's like a... I don't remember actually, but... Anyway, but like the lyrics he's translating for them are like, the mother and father are the most important in the family. Our house is so special. We love our house. We love our brothers and sisters. We are happy here together. Classic Frank Sinatra song. But he's saying it with this

like really like kind of like solemn seriousness. Yeah. He's like just like translating really literally and they're all smiling. It's really good. Yeah. That's the comedy I'm looking for. That's the kind of comedy I want to pull more from. Yeah, it's fun. Definitely not spiraling into a dark real place about what happens when you control people's access to information.

And tell them what's true when it's like completely not true. It's fine. It's fine. We see another day, Christina coming over for her regular sex session. They are back to having the sex like we first saw, I think. And then she immediately afterwards goes into the eldest daughter's room again.

She pulls out some hair gel from her bag. She says, I brought you some hair gel this time, if you lick me again. Older daughter's like, I don't want hair gel. And I don't believe you, your hair band didn't sparkle and you said it would. And like, I don't know, I want something better than hair gel. And Christina is like, I don't have anything better. But the eldest daughter like ruffles through her purse and finds two VHS tapes that she's like checked out from a library somewhere. She's like, I want these. She says, you can't have those. Definitely not. And she says, well, what do you think would happen if I told my dad that

you made me lick you and gave me a hairband for that? And Christina hands her the VHS tapes. She's like, okay, here you go. And we see the eldest daughter watching the tapes in the middle of the night. Like, she sneaks out of her room to watch, because they do have a VCR for the home videos. And we don't see what they are, but we just see her wide-eyed jaw on the floor.

Like, it's nothing like anything she has ever seen before. And then we cut to the next morning, she's standing kind of looking out the window, a little like moving side to side and like hitting herself. And we realized she's quoting Rocky. And she... I was going to say, I was like... Wow.

Imagine that being your first introduction to human society. Anything? Yeah. She's doing a kind of good impression. Yeah, she's doing it well. What did she say? She was like, I could have been a contender. Like she's doing something like that, yeah. And she puts some red juice in her mouth

and like punches herself so that it looks like she's like spitting out blood and she's, she is just a cinephile immediately. She loves it. Then we see her swimming in the pool with her siblings, quoting Jaws, I believe. And- Is someone walking around with Jaws and Rocky in her purse?

Yep. Okay. Yep. And we had seen earlier that she had hidden the tapes in, I think one of the pillows on the couch. So after we've seen her in the pool, reenacting a Jaws scene, it cuts straight to her dad sitting in the living room having discovered the two tapes. Calls her in there, is looking very serious, and says, does anybody else know about these? She says, no. He says, okay, bring me the duct tape.

Oh shit. We don't like whatever that means. She goes and gets it, brings it back to him. He takes one of the tapes out of its case. I'm remembering aspects of this Halloween costume. Oh no, oh no. This is a fucked up Halloween costume. Yeah, my friends are fucked up.

Rocco, Elizabeth, William, you fucking know who you are. Yeah, I'll throw, I'll say Silent Jenna also dressed like this for Halloween once, so. What the hell? Throw her under the bus too. So she gets, he gets the duct tape, tapes one of the cassettes to his hand and it's all done like very, like real time slowly.

We're kind of like, what's he gonna do with that? And then once he ripped the duct tape, he just smacks her on the head so many times, so hard with the VHS. It's so, you know, I mean, if you've seen New York Ghost movie, you know these moments that are just like, explosive violence. Brutal, completely brutal.

That are just, yeah, like make you see no cutaways. It's just a wide shot and just looks so painful. Very upsetting. And then we see him going to visit Christine the next day and sitting in her living room and once again saying like, are you still liking that perfume my wife and I got for you? And she says, yes, thank you so much. And he's, I don't, I can't remember really what he says, but it's clear that he's not happy with her. And then he eventually stands up, grabs the VCR player and smashes it over her head twice again,

like really violently knocks her to the ground and then stands over her and says, I hope your children have bad influences and develop bad personalities. Oh wow. He says, I wish that with all my heart and then he leaves. Wow, wishing your children have bad personalities is a real burn, that's a real burn.

Yeah, that's tough. One of my favorite scenes in the movie is the dad and mom at one point have kind of a silent argument. They're sitting across from each other at a table and they're talking under their breath, but really overdoing the mouth movement. So the dad is like, you need to stop interacting with the children.

Like dad, don't cry. They will see you. Like really dramatic mouth movements as the mom is crying and he's telling her not to cry. They're basically discussing, we need to find someone to replace Christina. We need somebody to come fuck our son. We need somebody to come fuck our son. We need somebody to come fuck our son.

Not our daughters, they're doing fine sexually. No concerns there. Well, unfortunately they say yes, our daughters, because nobody else can come into this house. We can't trust anybody. Oh no. So it's gonna have to be one of them. And we'll let him decide which one,

because that seems fair. Oh no. So we get a scene in a bathtub where the son is sitting with his eyes squeezed shut and his two sisters get in the bathtub next to him, both of them naked, with his eyes shut. He touches both of their bodies, feels their boobs, feels their butts.

Right, that's just how it works. This is exactly how it works. And eventually chooses his older sister. Oh, God. We see the mom getting her all dressed up, doing her hair and makeup so that she can go and fuck her brother. Oh, doing her hair and makeup so that she can go and fuck her brother. Oh my God. What the fuck? Are we almost done?

When did they get their dog teeth? We are almost done. I think the point is they have to lose their dog teeth, Henley. I know, but where's the dog tooth located is what I need to know. I think they do kind of point to it at one point. It's like the canine.

It's the canine, right? Oh, it's just your canine? That's all it is? It's just your canine? Oh, I thought it was like a metaphor for something that I was going to be scared of. It's quite literally a tooth. That's a tooth. And again, I only know this from the Halloween costume. So we do see this brother and sister having sex. Darn. Rats.

Kind of like rats. Yeah, you really hate to see it. What's the kissing in this? No kissing? I don't think they kiss, but he does kind of like show her how to give him a hand job. He kind of like takes her hand and is like, this is how you do it. We just, again, see it all in like play out in real time.

We're just like gonna have to watch all of it. Gonna have to, have no choice. We have no choice. And they like are laying down afterwards All of it. You're going to have to. Have no choice. We have no choice. They are laying down afterwards and she says, do that again, bitch, and I'll rip your guts out, which is apparently, I think another Rocky quote. I think she goes on and continues quoting Rocky. There's a point at which it's their mom and dad's wedding anniversary, which is a very

Funny little scene where the son plays guitar and the two daughters do the weirdest little dance oldest daughter's really getting into it and Didn't it kind of seem like she was maybe doing dances that she saw in the movies. Yeah, I think that's the implication Yeah, I wasn't clear if it was the whole time and she had led the younger daughter in that. But then at one point the younger daughter's like, I'm tired and I don't want to do this anymore. And then the older daughter keeps dancing and is doing these crazy kind of weird sexual dances

that I think are from the movies. I think it is the idea. Yeah, it seems like a flash dance type dance, but there were only two VHSs and I feel like we've coded Jaws and Rocky already, but I feel like that's kind of the vibe. Yeah, but it is from flash dance. Or that's what Wikipedia says. So I don't actually know like maybe it looks like she'd been getting a bunch of tapes.

Like maybe there's like a time jump that we like kind of miss or something. Yeah. So she is just dancing her heart out. Her dad is seething watching this. It's not like her learning dances from the outside world. And we see her and her sister in their room together later. And the older sister like touches her canine tooth and is like, I think my dog tooth is getting loose. And her sister reaches in and like wiggles in

and she's like, no, it's not, you're making things up. It's not. And... So they quite literally just have to punch their own tooth out of their head. Well. Or someone does. Great.

Yeah. Great. So we cut to a scene of it's just like framed of a bathroom sink with a like five pound hand weight. No! And the eldest daughter just standing and looking at herself in the mirror, psyching herself up. Not even really psyching herself up.

I feel like you could like do this over time. Don't you think if you figure that out, you could just like do a little few knocks? Yeah, it would fucking hurt so bad. Yeah, that would fucking hurt so bad. Oh my God. And like, how do you just get that one? Yeah.

I think you don't. I think you don't. Am I gonna find out that you don't? Yeah, okay. You might not. She gets a couple extra. She grabs that weight. She smacks herself in the face really hard. Holy shit.

Blood sprays on the mirror and the sink, but the teeth aren't out yet. They're still in there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The teeth are pretty firmly in there. They're hanging on by those nerves. They're pretty firmly in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They wanna stay. She has to do it a few times. Yeah, and she does. And we see eventually we hear some teeth clanging in the sink. Oh! And she looks in the mirror and smiles and it looks like she's got about two or three of them out

like in the dog tooth. Dog tooth is definitely out, but we've got some extra. And then she's like, wow, it fell out. She smiles. She smiles at herself. She's like, yay. And she walks out of the house and gets into the trunk of her dad's car. It's nighttime and nobody notices her do this. But pretty soon after her dad finds the sink covered in blood and finds the teeth in the sink and panics, runs outside, opens that security gate and their house is really in the middle of nowhere. It's just a field around them. So he's running further and further into the field. We're cutting back to the cars. Is she going to jump out of the trunk now and run in the opposite direction out

the gate? We don't see eventually the rest of the family comes out there on their hands and knees kneeling at the property line again, barking into the night, calling out for her. I can't find her. Everyone is very sad, but they're like, we're going to find her. We'll find her tomorrow. Dad, next morning gets in his car to go to work, I think, or like, yeah, it looks like he goes to his office and parks the car and walks into the building out of sight. Camera stops on the trunk, close up on the trunk,

end of movie. Whoa. Yeah. trunk end of movie. Can one get out of a trunk when one is in a trunk? I think it depends on the car. Right, right. I do think it depends on the car. This is like an old Mercedes, I think. Also like, she's not well.

She's got the open wound in her mouth. Yeah, I mean, right. She's probably in a in her mouth. Yeah, I mean, right. She's probably in a lot of pain. No resources. It's a tough road ahead for sure. Yeah. And it's ambiguous, right? We don't know.

And also like, if she was just gonna escape in the trunk, maybe she didn't need to knock her teeth out. Yeah, but she believes that she can only leave. She believes that it's dangerous out there, unless. With a dog tooth. And also, that's the reason she's not getting out of the trunk and running. She's like, this is the only way to be safe in the outside world. Is to get in the trunk of the car.

Oh my god, it's so dark. Oh, because she needs her dog tooth to grow back before she can drive. So she's going to die in the trunk of the car probably. I feel like they'll find her eventually. I think they'll find her, but I don't think it's going to die in the trunk of the car probably is what maybe I feel like they'll find her. I think they'll find her, but I don't think it's going to end. It's not good. It doesn't seem like a bodes well, but I actually randomly did. I feel like when I watched it, maybe there's a totally naive.

I was like there's randomly a like kind of a hopeful tenor to the ending. I think so. It's like it little it's somewhat of her empowering herself. And yeah, it's like they broke through something in a way that's kind of like, you're like, cool, like, that's the right thing to do. Like, no matter what they will try to get themselves out. The brother did it. She's doing it like, yeah. Although you don't know if the brother is real. I mean, I guess in theory, we don't really know.

We don't really know. But maybe that also like, what the fuck is up with Yorgos? Like, he's a little freak man, I love it. What the fuck? Yeah, I really liked the movie. Can I say what I thought about it? Please. Please, please. Or what I thought was interesting?

Because people were like, I feel like I was reading a lot of reviews that were like, what is this even about or mean? It's so random and crazy. And I was like, to me, it actually is really clearly about the ways that families in the extreme can be these like little societies and cults. And like every family is a little bit like, I feel like Natalie and I on our podcast,

we've joked about the thing of like when you go to someone else's house and they're like, well, it's spaghetti Tuesday. And you're like, what the fuck do you mean it's spaghetti Tuesday? Like that's not or like, like, especially when you're young and a kid, to me, it's like a sign of immaturity often that you don't know that the particular kind of social language of your household is not universal. So you'll be in third grade and your friend is like,

well I can't do that because it's Spaghetti Tuesday. You're like, I don't know about that. So to me it was like giving that a little bit. Like what's the extreme version of that? And you know, like parenting, this is a thing that actually has a political content, That's the extreme version of that. This is a thing that actually has a political content, but it's like kids have not a ton of rights in contemporary society. They don't have a lot of agency and there is a ton of,

abuse is huge. Like you're pushing on something that, let's make it political. Our decision as a society to move from village-based societies, communities, to single-family homes just made, yes, bad things are more likely to happen in privacy when no one can see what's going on. And you determine what's true. You determine the whole world a child sees and knows. Right. To me, it's like, by the way, it's like I don't think movies have to like have like a specific thesis or idea, and most don't. But I was like, it was funny to me to read

that a lot of people were like, this is so random, like what is it even about? I was like, this one, if anything, is way more about an idea than any other movie. Like, this is a really clear coherent message about like the ways that a family can be like an insular and authoritarian structure. Right. Yeah. And also something that was making me think about is how we try to control each other and like the limits there where we think that we can use these like violent ways or like harsh ways to control each other. And that never really works.

In the end it just never actually works. It hits a breaking point. It can't last forever. And violence begets violence. she'd gotten like hit and then like slices her brother. You know what I mean? Like it's really clear. You're like so. It normalizes this is what you do in these situations. Yeah. Maybe Jorgis is a genius.

I mean, we all know he is. Yeah, but he's freaky weird one. He is freaky weird. Totally weird. But I love it. I wanna know what his childhood was like. I want him to talk about his childhood. I want him to write a memoir.

He's probably got some interviews out there. He'd do some YouTube. It's funny, because I've only seen the favorite I want him to talk about his childhood. I want him to write a memoir. Do you see Poor Things? I also did it. I kind of thought it was like Facile. I'm so sorry. I felt like Yeah, Olivia Coleman doesn't she have like gout and like there's a lot of like body stuff There is like yeah, he thinks bodies are gross and he's right

Yeah, that is a thread for him for sure. I mean she's had like all these miscarriages Right. Yes, that's performance is so good Olivia Olivia Colman. But back to this movie. I actually think the performances in it are great. It's interesting, I was reading that he casts kind of like organically, like the youngest daughter, and this is sad, the youngest daughter is like, she was like a Greek punk singer. A singer, and like hadn't really acted before.

He kind of like scouts her, and they like, she's great, she's really good. I think actually all the acting is good. Me too. She died like a few years after the movie from like kind of a pulmonary embolism. Right. Oh wow.

At 29. At 29, like really young. That's awful. This kind of stuff's gonna make me into a hypochondriac. Every time I hear that, I become a little bit more of a hypochondriac. The older sister is still living and she's like a successful. She's been in a few of his other movies.

She also, she's like a theater director. I think he knew her and the brother from like the theater world. And the father is the other thing. And it's just like, which almost it's interesting that the movie doesn't really get into it, actually almost at all, Where the movie doesn't really ask like, Why? Why is the dad doing this? Yeah.

Which I kind of like. I kind of like that it's like, you know what? That's just a different movie with a different question. And it also doesn't really get into what the fuck does the mom think about this? Like, what extent is the mom complicit? Is she a victim? Yeah. It's actually not really addressed or...

I think there's some sense you get with that scene where he's like, you need to stop crying. Yes. And he's like being kind of harsh with her. That it's like, okay, this is like a domineering man, clearly. But she does see, like she beats her kids and she seems like...

Does she leave the house? Do we ever see her leave? No, I don't think we do. And so you are like, are you... There are moments where you're like, are you like kind of brainwashed too? But she's not because she's like playing all the tricks on them with the airplane and stuff. But she is like... Could be like Stockholm syndrome at that point. Yeah, it does seem like this is my life.

Yeah, and then it's funny because actually like she's, the thing with the dog is like they're so like subjugating themselves or like they're making themselves look so embarrassing, but she's getting right there along with them. The dad is training his three kids and his wife to bark like a dog at cats. Yeah. And so that's an interesting dynamic, whatever. Obviously, this father is kind of a monster

with these odd ideas, but it doesn't really spend so much time thinking about like where these ideas come from kind of because effective it is. Yeah, you're kind of I think it's just this idea of like, you know what, this is just arbitrary. And when you're a kid in a family, like, you know, it is maybe important at some point to understand, like, why is this like this? But also, everyone's just like, it's just in the water. Yeah, like that's just like how it is. Like, You're just like, you actually don't know why your dad gets mad and hits you sometimes.

And you don't know that other dads don't do that. You don't know that this isn't just being alive. Totally, totally, totally. That it's like this insular thing. So I really thought it was, I really liked it. I really liked the movie. As upsetting as I thought it was. Are you on the same page as your friend now that was like,

oh, you like modern day your ghost, you should see dog too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, of the three of them that I've seen, maybe it's still like the favorite the most. Yeah, that was great. Because it's funnier and it's a little more emotionally. This one felt a little cerebral and it's a little bit like, the tone of it is like, it's a little bit out of remove

because the dialogue is so like affected and odd, punctured with these moments of like intense violence or like grotesque sexual stuff. You don't so much like emotionally connect with the characters, maybe I'm wrong about that, but. Yeah, no, I agree. I think you don't. You're more like upset by like the concept

of what's happening than like, oh, I love them, I don't want them to be in this situation. Right, we're right. And that's a cool, it's like a cool way to do a movie. Cool to be able to pull that off, yeah. Totally, and it is this like weird stilted kind of removed thing that does get you, but the way it gets you most immediately

is like revulsion or horror. I know this is wrong. Like this is just wrong. Yeah, exactly. Whereas I liked in the favorite where it's like, it's a little more fluid and when like, you know, this kind of monstrous woman, this monstrous and disgusting woman who you kind of are like, oh my God, this woman's a mess. Like there's the scene where she talks about having all these miscarriages. You're like, oh my God, this is totally devastating. And she gives such a performance that you like, really, really feel for her. Yeah, right. With this movie, especially, I think that the, the tension between how we feel about certain things happening in the movie versus how the

characters who are experiencing the thing, I feel like your ghost is obsessed with that. Like the idea of like them getting down on all fours and barking, we see that as so dehumanizing and like immediately makes us feel uncomfortable. But for them, it's just like, we're just doing this and like everyone's doing it. And like, we don't feel a certain way about it. And it's like, that's like the least extreme example,

like very like, you know, ratcheting all the way up to like, you know, going down on your sister. And like, we're like, no, no, no, no. But she's like, why not? Like, I don't know any better. And just like how we're socialized to feel certain ways about certain things. Yorgos says that now I'm just,

I haven't seen all of his movies, but he is like so fascinated by context, by like what people will do within a certain framework. And that is really interesting. I hate it. I hate the way that he does it. But it's like, there is something so fascinating there that we are, yeah, we are our environment

and it's so easy to get on board with things if you don't know that they're strange. Yeah, like joining the maha movement, for example. For example. Actually, like, he's interested too in like, along with that like naivete, like characters who are, in at least the three movies of his that I've seen,

like the principal characters are like, defined almost primarily by how naive they are. Yep. Right. Yeah. Like these three kids. He loves that. Right. Like Emma Stone in Poor Things. She is like... Literal baby. And then that is a way to throw it. Right. She's a literal baby. And then that's like

everything gets thrown into relief where she gets to then from the outside in be like, well, this is sex. I like it. I want to do it all the time. And then it's like, oh, why don't we get to do it all the time? Whatever. Yeah. Right. She gets to ask questions about why things are the way that they are when you start from that foundation. You start from like the foundation. And then I remember Olivia Colman and the Queen in the favorite being like kind of naive.

Have you guys seen the lobster? Yeah. Is that also him? Yes. And same thing. I feel like Colin Farrell is also, it's really good, but it's really upsetting. I mean, I'm not the person to ask. I find Norgos to be like, yeah, he really gets me, and I feel really, really icky.

But it is very good. And Olivia Colman is also fantastic in it, if you love Olivia Colman. She's great in the lobster. Oh really, I love Olivia Colman. I think she's just such a good actor, and side note on it, best Oscar acceptance speech, to me, of all time.

I think it is so charismatic and funny and like. Yeah, she's incredible. She's the best, man. She's so surprised. It was such a, it was like a huge, it wasn't part of the narrative that she would win. God, we love her. Let's just think about that.

She wasn't in this movie, but you know what? Let's just think about her. Everybody watch Peep Show. We gotta shout her the fuck out. Peep Show's so good. Broadchurch. Just watch Olivia Coleman's filmography. Just watch Olivia Coleman. You can't go wrong. She's. Peep show's so good. Broadchurch, just watch Olivia Colman's filmography. Just watch Olivia Colman.

You can't go wrong. She's just good. She's just good. Just her cameo in The Bear. Did you guys watch that? Oh, she's great in The Bear. Best episode. She's great in everything.

Great in everything. Oh, wow. Is there more to say about this movie? The Guy, the Dad is the father in Staff Let's Flats. Ooh. If you know that TV show. I do know that show. Great show.

I've never heard of it. And yes, now that you say that, yes, that is him. I did not recognize him, but. Confirming a fact. Sammy, did you see Kinds of Kindness? No, I have heard that I should. I think when directors release two movies in the same year, it's really tough.

It's like I did one. Yeah, so same thing happened with Steven Soderbergh doing Presence and Black Bag this year. Oh yeah, I wanted to see Black Bag. I heard it's amazing. It was good. He also has another, Yorke says another movie coming out with Emma Stone.

I think it's like in production now. They're having a real moment together. Yeah. Which I'm not mad at. They love each other. I do love that. I think it's actually really- I love a collaborative partnership.

A kind of important, yeah, when it's like two people like get along a lot and like want to make stuff together. Yeah. That's like a sign of real like vitality. Yeah. So we'll get some more and I'm probably gonna, you know gonna be upset by it, but I'll still maybe see it. Thank you, Charlie.

I'm honestly glad to finally have done this one. Like it's done. I did it. I avoided it for so long. It's not hanging over your head. Yeah. It's like, I get it. I get it.

Now I know what my dog tooth is and it can stay firmly in my head. I want them all to stay put. I have teeth dreams all the fucking time and I was so shocked I didn't have one after this movie. Cause I have a lot of dreams that I'm like my teeth are falling out and I'm bringing them to the dentist being like, please put these back in my mouth. Someone doing something to themselves is always so intense. That is it's awful. Yeah, there's a similar scene. That is like a horror trope a little bit. Yeah, there's a similar scene in Titán.

That's also very rough. Yeah, I actually didn't finish that movie. Yeah. I was like, I know this is good. Like not fucking interesting. I can do it. Just being real. Tapping out, tapping out.

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, thank's fair. Thank you, Charlie. Will you tell our listeners about Exploration Live and anything else where they can find you, etc.? Totally. Well, you can find me personally on Instagram and randomly Twitter, Chunk Bardet. And maybe that'll be tagged. So, you know, go off, queens. Queens and then I have this podcast with my friend Natalie called exploration live which is also on head gum Natalie and I bring in like two to three ideas and I the idea is kind of along the lines of like Seinfeld the little observations about the world like that kind of thing little concepts notions

and then we talk about them it's pretty light like it's seriously pretty light as the concept for a show. We need that. Yeah. It's like, you know, it really is, you know, but also whatever. Like it's we try. We try to be funny and the premise is pretty loose, obviously. So it's kind of like comedy talking. Perfect.

But I legit love it. I love doing it. I love Natalie. Natalie's like, maybe you guys will meet her at some point. She's like the funniest person ever. So it's we have a good time. Yeah, that's all I just like to. I just want to have a good time. I just want to hear people having a good time.

I just want to be around people having a good time. It's simple as that. That's truly it. If people are laughing on a podcast, even if I don't think the joke is funny, I ultimately start laughing. I just like start laughing. And if they like each other, I love to hear the joke is funny. I ultimately start laughing. I just like start laughing. And if they like each other, I'd love to hear people like each other. It's my favorite thing.

You're like, oh my God, I'm with my friends. I'm just with my friends right now. It's nice. It's healing the world. One podcast at a time. Podcasts are so important. All right. Okay, well.

We did it. Was there a voice? Yeah, we end each episode with a voice from the movie. I will just throw in some barks, I think. Oh, love that. So. Woof. Woof.

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