Too Scary; Didn't Watch - HALLOWEEN (2018)

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammie and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to and it is spooky season.

Oh my gosh. It's October. It's October. Finally. It's October. Wow, wow, wow. I hung up some spooky lights yesterday. Yeah, you did. It's the best time of year. This is my favorite time of the year.

It is. It's so good. October is such a good month. It's great. It is perfection. Outside, it's warm, it's sunny, but it's crisp. It's got a little chill in the air. You can wear a light sweater.

The leaves are starting to turn and fall down, a little graceful leaf fall. Connecticut autumn, oh my God. The only way I can describe this light is buttery. It is just buttery light all day, every day. Buttery light. Love that. Oh my God.

And I, you know what? It's so brief. It's gonna be gone in a flash and it'll be cold and dark. And, but we had this, we have this one moment. Treasure the autumn. You gotta savor it. Treasure it. Mm-hmm, I'm treasuring it, you guys.

Well, we have a spooky movie for you guys today, obviously. You can go straight to it. We have timestamps in the show notes if you so desire, because first we have a little bit of haunted housekeeping, which is just to say that I saw the substance. I've been getting a lot of messages. Are you guys doing the substance? So many messages. Yes, so many. We will lot of messages. Are you guys doing the substance? We will be doing it.

Obviously, do you know us at all? That's like movies fucking made for us. Do it, obviously. We'll be doing Terrifier 3, unfortunately. Oh. And probably Smile 2. There's, yeah, a couple. I mean, it's spooky season.

So there's more new releases that we will be covering. So just everyone can breathe a sigh of relief. We got you, we got you, we got you. We always got you. And that's it for Haunted Housekeeping. And just, you guys probably know this, but one of us is married all of a sudden. Oh my God. All of a sudden. All of a sudden, did I sound completely different?

Everyone in the back is starting to go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the heck is going on? Whoa, what, is that a wife? Is that a wife on the line? That sounds matrimonial to me, the tone of that voice. I got married, wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow, it was great. It was perfect. The wedding was fucking perfect. Being married. Unbelievable. Totally rules. Yeah, I mean, all good things to say over here.

I wanted to take him, okay, so the wedding was fucking perfect. I just want to say that. I just want to take him, okay, so the wedding was fucking perfect. I just wanna say that. I just wanna say that it was absolutely perfect. It was everything we could have ever hoped and dreamed for it to be. Just absolutely blissful about it all. And I would like to use my platform to normalize

for anybody who needs it. I would like to normalize one's wedding not being the best day of their life. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I think it's really important for everybody to just know, hey, your wedding doesn't have to be the best day of your life. No, no, no.

Some of the single greatest moments of my life without question. Sure. Like the highs were, I've never felt more joyful. I've never felt more surrounded by love. The ceremony was absolutely perfect. Sammy knocked it out of the fucking park, obviously. Henley read a freaking Mary Oliver poem. Oh, it was perfect.

Joel's vows were the best vows that anyone has ever done ever. They were absolutely spectacular. It was perfect. So the highs were like, absolutely will be remembered forever at the best moments of my life. But let me tell you what.

Those lows, baby. Days and days on end of, I mean, I went, I got hoarse just from regular talking all the time. Like in your normal day, you spend a lot of time just not saying anything. But when you are sun up to sun down surrounded by people who are there for you, who you love.

You're going to be talking. You're just talking. You're talking all the time. Yep. I was so tired. I was so tired. And also, there's this, you know, it's this it's a bit of a performance. This is unbelievable pressure that like everyone is there for you. It's this big thing. You're

a host in a way. It was hard for me at times to feel present because you're also on a schedule. You're like, you're on a schedule things to do. I would catch myself being like, are you enjoying this? Right? Like are you, have you done, have you checked all the boxes? Have you talked to him? Like it just, it's so much. And so the moments when I was able to just be truly present and like really be in it, it was, I can't even, absolutely perfect, incredible. Yeah.

But also, hooey, it's a lot. It is a lot. And so I really, people really talk about what, and like, again, so worth it. I'm so glad we did it. It was everything we wanted. I, you know, I absolutely was worth doing all of it. But I feel like everybody talks about,

everybody talks about, oh, you know, it was so much planning and so much work and so much stress and so much money, but then, you know, best day of my life. And it's like, it doesn't have to be the best day of your life. No. You know, it can be one of the best days of your life.

That's great. Yep. Just, I just want to put that out there I appreciate I would argue that if you if you're framing it as this will be the best day of your life It will certainly not be well, there's no way for it to live up to that Also, I'm like what a shame if it were the best day man, I got Yeah, like and though and it was it was incredible and so wonderful to celebrate that and to celebrate it with Joel. And like, it felt so, so special.

But the point was also to be married. Like, we did it so we could be married to each other and like then have our lives to do. Like, that's the fun part. And so far so good. We've had a pretty normal week. It's been pretty great. Getting a lot of sleep, just hanging out on

the couch. So far so good. All the things I want. And I just love everybody in our lives so much. And it was really, really, really, really, really fabulous and special. And eventually we'll get pictures and I'll post all of them. And I just a little bit of a, just a little moment too for the dress I wore for the ceremony, which I've gotten questions about and comments on. Thank you so much. It was a wonderful dress. It was my mom's wedding dress. So unbelievable. I'd forgotten this. You reminded me of this at the wedding. I couldn't believe I couldn't. My jaw was on the floor again.

From 1985 straight out of the box. I mean, I got it dry cleaned, but no alterations were made, no adjustments. That was just my mom's freaking wedding dress. It fit you perfectly. Fit like a glove. Crazy, crazy spooky, honestly. That was just my mom's freaking wedding dress. It fit you perfectly. Fits like a glove. Crazy, crazy spooky, honestly. That's honestly a little spooky. It's a little spooky. And yeah, amazing.

Absolutely amazing. It was so beautiful. We love you so much, Emily. And we have our very first horror spoustin'. Is that? Our very first horror spoustin'. I think that is my horror husband. Very first horror husband.

Husband spondent or husband spondent. I think yeah. Yeah, I like spoustin. I mean to horror spoustin. Horror spoustin. Rolls off the tongue and everybody knows what it means. It's one of those perfect words. Anyway enough about me.

Did anything scary happen to you guys this week? Well, I just wanna shout out connecting flights because baby, I had some connecting flights to get to your wedding and it was all totally fine, but holy shit, I haven't had to do like a short connection in a while. They're very stressful. Very stressful.

And like, I, when I was booking the ticket, all I was thinking was how can I get there as fast as possible? Of course. I was like, I don't care about anything else, just get me there as fast as humanly possible. So I took the first flight out, there was a connection, 40 minutes between the connection. And I wasn't until I was like the night before when I was looking at that, that I thought to myself, oh no.

Oh no, so much could go wrong. So much could go wrong in that window of time. And you better believe I was like on the interwebs looking at blogs, looking at how to navigate the Dallas airport, how to get between terminals. Oh, it's Dallas. Yeah, that's a big one. That's a big one.

Really big. They also fucking put the other flight, the connecting flight in a different fucking terminal. Are you kidding me? It's the same airline. Yeah. I've never had a connecting flight that was conveniently located. They're always somehow on the other side of the airport. In my brain, in my stupid brain, trusting these corporations, which I should never do,

and I don't know why I ever do that, I was like, American Airlines surely wouldn't screw over their passengers so much to put a, A, to even make it a 40-minute option if that's not possible, and B, to then put the other plane in a terminal on the other side of the fucking airport. are you crazy? So long story short, I had in my notes app little screenshots of the Dallas airport, exact directions on how to get between the terminals because another thing that was happening is that every time I checked, it was in a different terminal. Yes. Update. I was like landing in terminal A, going to terminal C. And then I was like, no, you're

landing in terminal B and going to terminal C. Oh, wait, no, now you're going to land in terminal C and you'll be in terminal C. Oh, wait, no, no, no. Now you're going to terminal C and then it's like, no, you're landing in terminal B and going to terminal C. Oh wait, no, now you're gonna land in terminal C and you'll be in terminal C. Oh wait, no, no, no, now you're gonna land in terminal C and go to terminal A. It was like constantly changing. And so I was like, I know the Dallas airport like the back of my fucking hand now, you guys. Like-

Yeah, Henley's on lists now because she knows the Dallas airport too well. She's got blueprints, carrying blueprints in the airport. I know it too well. So on the way there, I lucked out. I landed in terminal A, connected in terminal A. It was totally fine. No big deal. So then coming back, I had a little bit more time, but my flight was delayed A and there were people on my flight who had like 30 minutes between connecting flights. And the flight attendant was like making announcements

over the speaker being like, people have really short connections. Yes. So everybody stays seated. Everyone stays seated. And nobody ever does. And nobody does ever. Literally no one did. Yeah.

I was astonished. I've been on one. She was making these announcements. She made one at the beginning of the flight. Then she reminded everyone at the end, like let the people who have short connections go to the front of the plane. Everyone got up like it was a normal. Yeah. Always. I've had that happen before. And I was like, okay. And then I watched

these people pure terror on their face. Absolutely panicking. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Can I squeeze by? Can I get by? Can I get by? Can I get by? I've been that person and it's literally sprinting. The worst thing that's ever happened to me. It's literally sprinting worst thing that's ever happened to me. Because my question is, if you miss that flight, if you miss the connecting flight, do you just have to pay for a new flight? No, they have to. I think they have to put you on another flight, but it's like you're standby then and who knows how long it'll be. And yes, so terrible. Anyway, just a little hot tip for you guys out there. They're not trying to make it work for you.

Don't trust the corporations. Yeah, they don't trust them. They're not thinking about you. They don't care if you miss that other flight. And no one's going to help you get off the plane if you're in the back of the plane. Nope, actually, they'll all stand right in your path, right in the way. I know. So that was kind of my scariest thing, but man, also it was at the same time a blissful flight experience. I had no children with me. I was just watching Nobody Wants This on Netflix.

I was just thinking about how much I love Emily and Joel and how great a weekend I had. It was the best weekend ever. And yeah, that's it. It was, it really was. Wow, Sammy? My scary thing this week, it's a quick one. I got a antibiotic shot in my butt.

Oh yeah, Sammy. You did. And it hurts so bad, you guys. It's crazy to learn and it makes perfect sense, but you told us last night that they do a shot in the butt when there's so much liquid they have to get into your body. Oh. So that's why they do it.

Cause it's like they could fit more in a butt than in say an arm. Yeah. And that's, I don't, I don't like that at all. Yeah. So I think it was just like a high volume of liquid that they were injecting. But you know, the pain that your arm gets when you get a shot that's kind of like, sometimes you feel it like fill up. Yes. It's like in your muscle, you can like feel your muscle in a way.

It's so, it was just that times like the size of your butt. Wait, did your butt cheek get sore like how an arm gets sore after a shot sometimes? Yes, I like at first thought I wasn't gonna be able to walk home, cause I was at urgent care, which is two blocks from my house. And I was like, I'm gonna have to have someone drive me these two blocks.

And then I had to lay face down with my butt up, face down, ass up. So it could sink all into your body. So it didn't just float around your butt? It didn't just stay in the butt? Big bubble butt? So, yep, yep. And for like 15 to 20 minutes. I've never heard of this, honestly. I was a little surprised too. They didn't really tell me how it was going to be.

And she didn't even do a countdown. She was like, okay, like move your pants to like a third of the way down your legs. And then she like wiped the area and then she just went for it. And I was like, oh. She's like, yeah, I don't like to do a countdown because then you tense your butt. He's like, oh, oh.

And then the shot just lasted a really long time because she has to like slowly inject. I was like, the shot is still, the shot is still happening. It's still happening. The shot is still going. There's still happening. The shot is still going. There's still a needle in my body. So anyways, yeah, I just had never had that happen before.

So I'm sure many of our listeners have experienced the same thing and just shout out to everyone getting shots in their butts because it really hurts. Oof, oof, oof. Was it hard to sit down afterwards? It was okay after. It probably do like kind of top of the butt, right?

Right up at that muscle. Yeah. It was a little sore. Imagine if they did it right under the cheek. That would be a bummer. You're a real bummer. But you're feeling better now, it helped you. But I'm feeling better, yes, it did help.

And it was pretty convenient. Like I said, it's two blocks from my house, so it's nice that I have access to urgent care. You can get a butt shot whenever you need one. Yeah, exactly. I hope I never need one again. Me too. But good to know that I can get it.

Anywho, let's start talking about this week's movie. I have an apology to make. This week's movie, not the kind you should be scared of, Henley, but this week I posted a poll on our Instagram asking which of the Halloween franchise films we should cover next after the original Halloween. Because I don't know if you guys know, there are 13 Halloween films and five different timelines of those Halloween movies.

And so the poll was between Halloween 2, Rob Zombie's Halloween and the 2018 David Gordon Green directed Halloween. So Halloween 2, Halloween or Halloween to follow Halloween. Okay. What's so complicated about that? And I just got to be honest with you guys. I watched this movie before the poll had completed and in a shocking turn of events, it did not end up winning the poll.

So today we are going to be recapping. Well, it was winning when you watched it. And so I just wanna say, you know, we're a month out from the United States election, presidential election, vote early folks, you know? You never know, vote early. You never know if they're gonna count them. You never know if they're gonna count them. You never know if they're gonna,

yeah, they're gonna decide to call it and you just never know. What I'm saying is you can't trust our election system. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. But you know, just vote early as much as possible, you know. Because all the people that voted early, well. Their voices counted more.

Their voices counted more. Because today we are going to be recapping the 2018 Halloween, not Halloween II, which did ultimately win the poll. It won the popular vote, but it didn't win. Exactly. The electoral college. So yeah, unfortunately. Which is a system that we stand by. Okay, wait, I have to come clean with you guys

about something, which is I think I might have seen this movie. Ooh. Whoa. I know, so I took a trip to Joshua Tree in, I believe the year was 2018. Is when it snowed? When it snowed, and I got,, sorry mom, stoned beyond belief.

Like so unbelievably high. And I'm pretty sure we watched this Halloween. Are you sure it wasn't Halloween or Halloween or Halloween 2? I don't fucking know. It was a modern day Halloween. And I had the experience that you had, Emily, on your first honeymoon when you were in a cabin and convinced that you were gonna be killed.

I was like, I don't remember anything from the movie. The only thing I took away was a murder will come and get me right now, immediately. These are my final moments. They're on their way right now. Because they know we're watching a scary movie and they're like, oh yeah, we're gonna get rid of her. This is the time to do it.

We're in a remote desert Airbnb. I am vulnerable. I don't even know where the road is. Like I can't even, I don't even know where the road is. Footsteps will get covered up by that snow. What a prime opportunity to do a murder. Exactly. I just fully convinced myself I was gonna die.

Like I, there was no like, ha ha, I'm being silly. It was like, no, I'm, this is murder. Exactly. I just fully convinced myself I was gonna die. Like there was no like, haha, I'm being silly. It was like, no, I'm, this is it. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't remember anything from the movie, but I did take a pure, I had pure terror. Yeah. That was my emotion. Great.

Pure terror. Do you wanna take an edible right now or something to... Yes, to relive that experience or heal myself, have like a healing experience. Yeah, yeah, reclaim it. I wish I had an edible. Are you kidding? Well Halloween came out in 2018, directed by David Gordon Green, written by Jeff Bradley,

Danny McBride, David Gordon Green. Danny McBride? Yeah, Danny McBride and David Gordon Green are writing partners. I think they created vice principals together and maybe righteous gemstones. So they do comedy and horror, which we have talked about the link between the two. That's true. And yeah, based on characters by John Carpenter and Debra Hill starring Jamie Lee Curtis, Judy Greer, Andy Matichick, James Jude Courtney and Nick Castle. Nick Castle played Michael

Myers in the original Halloween and he does just like a little cameo in this one, which you would never spot because it's just as Michael Myers, who another actor is playing for the rest of the time and he's wearing a mask. So you can't tell when it's Nick and when it's James Jude Courtney, but I think that was nice that they let him do that. It's nice that they let him do that. He asked and they said, okay, fine, we'll let you do it. We'll throw him a bone.

And this movie is streaming on Netflix, if you wanna watch it. I got like so excited about, obviously I watch horror movies every week. Yeah, all the time. Yeah, 52 weeks per year, but I just did get like a little Halloween season excitement where I decided I only wanna watch horror movies this month.

So, yay. I won't do the 31 days thing, that's too many, but. That's too many days. I know it's just because it's spooky season, but it does feel very appropriate for me that on this week of love in my life, I get to talk about my other love. Michael Myers.

Yes. I was thinking the same thing. It's really special. I love, Sammy, you've got him as your background and just seeing him makes me just a little bit giddy. I just, I wish I could explain it. I just love him. I love Michael Myers.

I think he's so funny. You are, he's back on his shit in this one. Oh my God, I can't wait to hear what he is up to. But I know what he's up to. Confident. Walking real slow and just kind of be in there. Just kind of broad daylight in public. Just kind of, just kind of like. That's his favorite thing to do.

God, I can't, I can't wait to hear about it. I love so much. It's just unabashedly himself. He's just what's not to love about someone who just knows what they want. It goes for it. Goes for it. Methodically, slowly. And damn it, he doesn't let anybody stop him.

He doesn't hide it. He. He just does his thing. Yeah. It's really amazing. We can all learn something from Michael Myers. We all can learn something. This Halloween has a 79% on Rotten Tomatoes, 67 on Metacritic, 6.5 on IMDB. Okay. The budget was 10 million.

It made 259.9 million. Woo! 10 million feels like pretty low. I'm actually surprised. I guess it's not like they need a ton of special effects or anything, but it's not a crazy budget for such a big Hollywood movie. They were probably like,

we've made so many of these fucking movies, we can't. We have everything already. Right, just take it out of storage. We don't need anything new. Let's just do it again. Just $10 million went to Jamie Lee Curtis. That's what I was gonna say, is that her fee? Like how much does she cost?

Probably costs a lot, especially for Halloween where it's like. It's like half of that. Yeah. This is kind of my whole deal. Cause I think that she came back to this one after leaving the franchise like quite a while before this. So this one they had to let,

or she was like convinced to come back. And I can't imagine she did that cheap. Yeah. 10 million might convince you. Yeah. Yeah. And everything else is just from storage. They just pulled it right out of storage. I want to tell you the movies in chronological order just because it's crazy. Please.

Oh, good. So there's Halloween, obviously. Halloween 2, Halloween 3, Season of the Witch. That one's a standalone film, nothing to do with any of the rest of them. Okay. Is Michael Myers in it? I would presume so, but I actually have no idea. Incredible.

Halloween 4, Halloween five, Halloween, The Curse of Michael Myers, Halloween H2O, which is a sequel to Halloween two and forgets everything that happened and all the other ones. So it's a sequel to Halloween two, so it's Halloween three. Halloween three again.

Halloween three again. And then Halloween Resurrection, which I guess in a way is Halloween four again. Then Rob Zombie made Halloween. This is like a remake of the original Halloween. Of Halloween. Of Halloween, so that was called Halloween. Okay.

Oh my God. And then. But it's also like, that's like Halloween eight. Yeah. Or nine, but it's also Halloween one. Yes. Again. Again. Again. And then he made Halloween two,

which I think he called H2, but not H2O. Is H2O because they were like on a boat or in an aquarium? I hope so. What were they doing? Previous guests of the pod, Marty likes that one. Yeah. Marty, explain to us the water connection. It's just starring dolphins and other water animals. If it is, I would have heard about that.

Yeah. We would have known. Someone would have told us that. So, okay, H2, which is another Halloween 2. Yes, in a separate universe. In the Rob Zombie universe, people seem to really dislike these ones in particular. Okay.

Then, wiped the slate clean again, this movie, Halloween... Halloween. ...is a sequel to Halloween. So, but this is just called Halloween. Because it's Jamie Lee Curtis, All Grown Up. She plays like the same character, but... Yes. And it's a direct sequel to Halloween.

Yes. The first original Halloween. That's right. Great. And none of the other movies happened. Just that one. Just Halloween. According to this one.

Yes. Cool. Okay. And then there's Halloween kills and Halloween ends. And those are, that makes this David Gordon Green trilogy. I know a choir. Well, it's a trilogy, but it is based off of another first movie.

So it's two, three and four. The famous two, three and four trilogy. Great. God, you know, obviously we love the horror genre here, but I feel like another reason to love it is it is the only genre where shit like this happens. And shit like this happens all the time. It is so funny to me that we can just be like, well, so it's actually, it's this, but it's like, this is unhinged what's happening.

And I am obsessed with it. It especially happened in, yeah, 80s and 90s with slashers. It's absolutely incredible. Because they were just like, oh, the original made 90s with slashers. It's absolutely incredible. Because they were just like, oh, the original made a lot of money, so let's make so many for the rest of time. Oh, okay, okay.

So really this is one of the direct sequels to Halloween, which we have done. So, okay, great. Great. Halloween 10, also known as maybe the 10th movie. Yes. 11. Halloween 11.

Halloween 11. Yes. Great. Halloween H2, but it's 1-1. Only other strange piece of trivia I have here is that Jake Gyllenhaal helped convince Jamie Lee Curtis to reprise her role of Laurie Strode for this film because he is a close family friend and her unofficial god-son. Jamie.

Jamie. Mommy, you got to do it. What was Jake Gyllenhaal up to in 2018? Now it just makes me wonder where he was at in his life. He was like, I'm gonna take this on. I wanna know that. And I wanna know if he yelled at Rebecca Ferguson. That's-

I do wanna know. Who do we think are the other? There's only one other winner. Jeremy Renner seems- I hope it's Renner. Seems pretty likely. I hope it's Renner because I'm weirdly having like a Gyllenhaal moment where I'm really into.

We're back, baby. We're back, we're back. I'm back to realizing how funny he is. There's a certain kind of serious actor that is so funny to me. Did you watch Ambulance yet? Oh, I watched Ambulance. You better believe I watched Ambulance.

The One Two Punch of Ambulance and Presumed Innocent. And honestly, this piece of trivia, I'm like, Jill and Hall rules. We're back, baby. We're back, baby. I think we should watch the trailer for this at the end. OK, great. And so that'll be available on our Patreon if you want to check it out. But I think let's just get into this recap. Ooh, let's get into it.

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We're at a maximum security looking prison and we meet two podcasters. Man and a woman. I didn't write down their names. We'll just call them the podcasters. I presume they'll be safe for the whole movie. Yeah. The fact that we don't need to know their names lets me know that they're probably going to be safe.

They're probably going to be pretty safe. They are making a podcast about Michael Myers. So we're hearing them speak into their little microphone saying, Michael Myers has been in this facility for the past 40 years and blah, blah, blah. Because no other movies ever happened. He didn't murder a single other person. Nope. And they are greeted by Dr. Sartain, who introduces himself as Michael's doctor and says, I was a student of Dr. Loomis, who we'll remember from the first movie. He's since passed away and I've taken over.

Michael's my patient now. He says, I can take you out to see him. He's in the yard right now. Podcasters are like, oh yes, please, we'd love to. We'd love to see this respect shown to the field of podcasting. So he's just Roman free in a yard and the podcasters are also Roman free? Well, no, the yard is a bunch of the prisoners, each in their own square ankle

chain to the ground. So they have a like three foot diameter that they can go to and there's tape around each of them as like if you cross this line, they'll be able to touch you. So don't go past the yellow lines. Dr. Sartain also tells them obviously Michael has not ever said a single word so you can go see him. He's not going to talk to you. So we walk up to Michael, we see him from behind. Looks like an old man. We're not getting a look at his face, obviously. And the guy podcaster, podcaster man number one, is speaking to him and saying, Michael, we're trying to understand

what made you do those things 40 years ago. And it's very funny. It's gonna be a good podcast. I know, it's hard to say, but this is not looking good for an audio medium. And he pulls out of his bag the mask that Michael wore during the original murders. I don't know how he has that. Deeply unethical. And he's like, Michael, look at this. Because there's behind him and he's like,

trying to get him to turn around and he crosses that yellow line. And he's holding the mask out in front of him saying, Michael, look, look, you want this, you can feel its presence, can't you? You know what I'm holding behind you. And all of the other inmates who are displayed to be like mental patients also, it has the vibe of like the place for the criminally insane vibe, which feels a little icky, where they're all, everyone's like laughing and screaming in the background because we're all crazy inmates, hee hee hee. And then that's it. And then the opening credits play. He never looks at the mask. It's kind of a dumb scene.

Really, we don't come back to that at all? Kind of really stupid. But the opening credits are cool. I feel like in the original, it just stays on a pumpkin as the John Carpenter's iconic score plays, and we get all the names, and this pumpkin starts as rotten and goes backwards in time as it fills out into a regular Jack-o-lantern.

I'm so excited for pumpkins. I know. Yeah. They're great. Jenna, silent Jenna has put a couple pumpkins on her doorstep and they started disappearing and she didn't know what was happening to them. She thought she had a pumpkin thief and she did in a way, but it was squirrels. Squirrels?

Yeah. Yeah. So they'll eat them. They'll eat them. They'll eat them. Yeah. So just know if a pumpkin goes missing, could be a squirrel. Could be a squirrel. How big was that pumpkin?

It was a small one. It was them little mini decorative ones. It was them little minis. Them little minis. Them little mini pumpkins. Them little minis. Little squirrel size guys. It was them little minatch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch.

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That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. That little mini-patch. So, yeah. So, now we follow the podcasters. They're going to Laurie Strode's.

They're on the case. They're trying to interview everyone involved with this situation and they find Laurie's house and it is completely barricaded. There is a high metal fence with a speaker box. So they have to page in and ask if they can come in. And she at first is saying no, and then they say, we'll pay you $3, it's clear, this is like a bunker. And she looks like she is ready to fight Michael at any time because she is. That's what she's been doing the past 40 years. And they come and they sit down and they're interviewing her a bit. And quickly the interview

turns to the female podcaster number one says, your daughter was taken away when she was 12. What age was she when you got her back? And Lori answers, I never got her back and I'm sure you know that. And so that sours the conversation, obviously, not that it was ever going great. Oh, that's so sad. And they're kind of pushing her in a way that she's like, okay, you can leave now and pay me my $3,000, like get out. So they leave. Now we meet another family. This is Judy Greer and Toby Huss. They are Karen and Ray. We learned Karen is Lori's now adult daughter. They have their own daughter, Allison, so Lori's granddaughter. They are a happy family, setting

up like mousetraps around the house, having a little morning routine, making breakfast, cracking jokes, all fun and friendly. They're talking about having dinner plans that night. Allison asks Karen, her mom, did you invite grandmother? She says grandmother every time she references Lori. Normal. She's like, is grandmother coming to dinner? And Karen replies, yeah, I called her and she's, oh, she's unfortunately, she's busy tonight.

Like just very clear that she's lying. And Alison gets up to go to school as Toby Hus, Ray is messing with the mousetraps and I just have to call out a line. He like bumps the table and goes, oh, I got peanut butter on my penis. What? Oh.

Wait, what? It really surprised me. Okay, his pants are on. What? Like on his crotch. Yeah, I think so, but. When his pants are on, we call it a crotch. Yeah, we call it a crotch.

Thanks, sir. We only call it a penis when it is exposed. Oh, it's very funny. And I feel like, yeah, that's the moment that you know that Danny McBride was a part of writing the script. Okay, good. So Karen leaves to walk to school.

These are down the same streets-ish that we recognize from the first film. It's October, it's autumn, leaves are changing, very suburban like streets. And she's walking with her two friends. Vicki is her best friend and then her boyfriend Dave who is played by Miles Robbins who is Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon son. And he weirdly looks exactly like Cole Sprouse. Oh, I gotta look this up. Um, are they in like high school?

Yes. Okay. Okay. And as they're walking, she's telling them, complaining that her mom's lying to her. She's like, I keep asking to see my grandma and I know that she's not even asking her because I've been talking to her behind her back and I know that my mom has not spoken to her in a while. And then they kind of have a little catch up conversation with, well, your grandma was involved in all those murders back in the 70s, right? Wasn't it her brother that did it? And she goes, no, that's just a rumor.

Wasn't her brother. And they tried to have this little like meta moment where these days a guy's killing someone with a knife. It's not all that scary. And it's a little on the nose and silly, but they do their best with it. Okay, great. They get to school, we meet Allison's boyfriend, Cameron, and they are talking about their couple's costume

that they've got planned. They're gonna be Bonnie and Clyde, but she's gonna be Clyde and he's gonna be Bonnie. Clever. So we see her at school and then she sees outside in the parking lot or something, Lori is standing there looking very badass, as she always does. She's got like her long gray hair now wearing flannel shirts and she just looks like hardened. And Allison goes to talk to her.

Lori gives Allison an envelope filled with money for some reason and says like, buy whatever you want. And she says, I can't accept this. I'm all- Was that the $3,000 maybe from the podcasters? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. This is why I-

Oh yeah, yeah. This is why I say these moments out loud. Because when I was watching it, I was like, this seems weird. Why did she do that? It's not a know where. But there you go. That's the connection. So yes.

And at some point, it doesn't happen this abruptly, but it is abrupt. Alison asks Lori, why can't you just get over it? Because it's clearly the trauma of her past has clearly ruined her relationship with her daughter and Allison wants the family to come back together and basically says in these exact words, why can't you just get over it? She's a young one. She doesn't know.

Yeah. Sure. Sure. And you know, Lori's got that face like, I wish I could, but obviously I can't. We cut to Lori back at her compound, practicing her shooting. Looks like something she does every single day.

She tries to adjust her shotguns. She's got all her knives everywhere. She has a little button that she presses that makes the kitchen island swivel open and there's a hidden basement room filled with guns and other weapons. So I mean, it's really interesting because she obviously is going to be proven right in this film that all of this was worth it. But I can, if this was someone in real life, you would be like, you do have to find a way to move on. It has been 40 years. Yes, it has been 40 years. Yeah.

It's been 40 years. He is in prison. You do need like, even if this proves to be the right choice, will it have been worth the last 40 years of your life? Probably not. No, no, not at all. No, I agree. But unfortunately, they are going to be transferring Michael to another prison today.

Oh, why, just for fun? I can't remember why. They might've said a reason, but mostly just so that he can escape. Exactly. They like to keep it interesting. Just give them a little chance. Let's see what he does.

They, that night have dinner with, Alison has Cameron over her boyfriend for dinner or another at a restaurant. Doesn't matter. They're having dinner with the parents. And once again, Alison says, did you invite grandma? Is grandma coming? And Karen says, oh my gosh, yeah, I invited her.

I don't know where she is. And then she walks in at that moment and just immediately grabs a glass of wine off the table and downs it. So this is, I feel like again, we're getting the impression like, yeah, this is would actually like be very hard to be your daughter or... Right. Yeah, this is, this is toxic. Everything is like about you all the time.

Yeah. She sits down at the table, she starts crying. She's like, they're transferring him. It's happening again. And Karen calms her down or is trying to calm her down saying like, Mom, it's okay. I told you about this. And remember you said you wanted to put the past behind you. We're trying to put the past behind you now. Like it's not happening again. And she's crying. She's like, I gotta go. I gotta get out of here. I gotta be to be prepared for when he comes." And yes, she is right. But yes, it would be very emotionally taxing on her loved ones.

And annoying. It would be annoying. And so annoying. So annoying. And so she leaves and Karen has a little, I told you so moment with Alison that's like, yeah, I know her. And when she comes to things, it's always like this. And she's like, now's a good time for me to tell you about my childhood.

I got trained on how to shoot all kinds of guns. By the time I was eight years old, we had like a safe room in the basement. I was trained in combat and social services came when I was 12 and I like didn't live with her again after that. So pretty traumatic childhood there. But she's gonna be so good at fighting. She's gonna be so good at fighting.

It is a fun thing to know is gonna come in handy later. We see a father and son driving down a dark, empty road at night and stumble upon a flipped bus with a lot of prisoners walking around free on the road. Dr. Sartain was on the bus with Michael because he's like obsessed with him. He's like, he's like, yeah, he's my patient until he's at the next place.

So I'm going to follow him till the last moment. So he's on the bus, we know. And the dad gets out of this car to check it out. So son stay here. Absolutely the wrong idea. Really wrong call here. Dad doesn't come back. Son, there's like a gun in the car. The son grabs the gun and goes out looking for his dad

and goes onto the bus, which looks empty, but then someone pops up and he just shoots him, and it's Dr. Sartain. Oh, no. But he shoots him like the shoulder. It's not a kill shot, but then it just freaks the kid out and he like screams and runs back to the car and he jumps into the driver's seat and he's going to drive away.

He's probably like 13 or 14. And as he gets the keys in the ignition, we see someone behind him in the back seat, reach forward, grab him by the shoulders and slam his head over and over into the car window and then strangle him and kill him. He's dead. Okay. I think also something is coming back to me, which is I think part of the reason I was so scared watching this film is because I was so deeply unprepared.

I was like, wow, they are so prepared and I'm pretty sure I don't know where any of the guns are in this house. I couldn't even fire one if I needed to. That's ringing a bell. That's ringing a bell for me. Sure, sure. Well, the gun didn't save him, Hen. So I, yeah, guns are also statistically more likely you'll be injured or harmed if there's

a gun in your house. Anyway, that's for another conversation. Yeah. I mean, and Michael probably knows this because he uses pretty exclusively his hands and knives and other blunt objects. Yet again. He's not a gun guy.

He's not a gun guy, another reason to love him. Because he knows the dangers. He knows the danger and he's aware. He is a conscientious member of society. Yes. Now we meet Officer Hawkins, who they refer to as he is the guy that arrested Michael in 1978. I don't know if this specific actor was in the 1978 movie or if they just like threw

that line in. I'm not positive, but he is kind of a that guy. So he could have been in the original. And he's being alerted of the bus crash that has now let all the inmates out. And I think that they've rounded most of them up, but not Michael. Ooh, one of them's missing. Man, if you're Karen in this moment, you're like,

God, fuck. She's never gonna shut the fuck up about this. Not all. Here we go. We see the podcasters are visiting Michael's sister's grave. If you'll remember the very beginning of the original Halloween is Michael killing his sister when he was a child. They are just recording more audio at the grave site,

and we see someone watching them from behind a tree. I mean, he is kind of hiding here, actually. This is the most he ever hides. He doesn't have his mask yet. Ooh, great point. I get him. He follows them to a gas station when they leave the cemetery, they stop for gas and the female podcaster love calling her that.

Yeah, does she have a name or you? I can look it up. Oh, no, don't look up. Henley, Sammy, Emily, throw one of those in there. I just would think it would be really funny if she literally didn't have a name in the whole movie. They never bothered to name her. No, she does.

I just didn't write it. I didn't write it down. All right. But I didn't write his down either. I don't need to know. I don't need to know. She goes into the bathroom. It has three stalls.

She goes into the last stall. And while she's in there, the door to the bathroom opens and someone with big heavy work boots is slowly stepping towards her, stomping, stepping. Real slow and he's opening each of the stall doors as he passes. First one's empty, second one's empty. We see her getting scared like, what the fuck? And he gets to her bathroom stall door and stops in front of it. We see his shoes facing her like he's just facing the bathroom door. And then his hand comes up over the top and he drops down something all rattles on the floor,

a bunch of teeth. Oh! That's fun. Bloody ripped out teeth. Oh! Oh my God, he has style. Yeah, man. You gotta give him that. This is fun. I like this a lot.

And she immediately starts. How are you gonna podcast without all your teeth? Yeah, good point. She immediately dives under the stall, is trying to climb, like, crawl away. Obviously doesn't work out. She's screaming really loud. And her podcast co-host hears and comes in.

He has all his teeth, so it's somebody else's teeth. Somebody else's teeth. I mean, Michael's just, he's mixing it up. Full of surprises. And the other guy lunges at Michael, trying to save his co-host as I'm sure we all would. Any of us would. Any of us would.

And Michael very easily gets the upper hand and bashes his head over and over and over into the wall. It's pretty bloody, gruesome. Oh, I don't like that. Yeah, it's a bad way to go. He's still alive, but immobile and just kind of laying on the floor gurgling. Oh, don't like that. And then Michael goes into the bathroom stall

where the woman is and grabs her and strangles her and kills her and then goes out to their car and gets his mask. Yeah. But podcast man eventually dies. Yeah. I'm guessing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

We haven't seen Michael's face during this exchange. We just like see him from behind. You see him from behind and you see the barely corner of his eye because I think Lori stabs him in the eye in the first movie. So we see a scar on his eye. Okay, because they just want to make sure that you really know it's Michael Wacker.

It's him, it's him, it's him. It's him for real. It's him for real. And yeah, this very dramatic piano cover of the theme song is playing as he's getting his mask on. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. The music's goodness, John Carpenter, again, he came back for the music.

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on the loose and she's yeah, of course, immediately she I think breaks into Karen and Ray's house and like scares them. And they're like, what the fuck are you doing? And she's like, this place isn't secure at all. You need a gun. Where's your guns? She's like, I don't have a gun, mom. You know, I don't have a gun. I don't want a gun. She's like, it's happening. He's coming. He's back.

And yeah, again, she's not wrong, but we can see how much, how difficult this is for Karen. we can see how difficult this is for Karen. Now we get Michael back on his regular shit where it is currently Halloween day and the streets are filled with trick-or-treaters, but it's still light out, it's getting to be dusk. And he is just strutting down the street, not hiding at all, just walks into a woman's house,

kills her. I don't know who this lady is, I don't know what this house was. He's just warming up, he's just getting ready to go. Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a minute. He just, yeah, needs to get those muscles. Love that they also transferred him on Halloween.

They're like, let's also do it on Halloween. That's another fun thing. Let's see what that's like. Let's just see. And I am curious if this house is his childhood home or something because it feels very random. Maybe it's random. Yeah, maybe it is.

But then after he kills this woman, he's walking back out the front door and he walks by a baby crib. There's a baby crying and he kind of looks in it and then passes in and leaves. Showing mercy. Wow. This guy can't even kill a baby. Wow. Then he goes into the house next door and he kills the woman in there who seems to be

getting a phone call that's like warning her someone is out. So this, I think this is like the street that the previous murders happened on. Cause this woman seems nervous. She's like, Oh my gosh, I'll lock my doors. And as she's going to the front of the house to lock the door, we of course see him going in the back of the house. And then she's looking out the front window as he comes up behind her and slits her throat.

Cut to the Halloween party that Alison and Cameron are at dressed as Bonnie and Clyde. Big like ravy type party, everybody in costumes, getting drunk, we meet Cameron's friend. I didn't write his name down either. He's dressed as a vampire. Simultaneously, we see Vicky, Alison's best friend is babysitting a little boy named Julian. They're talking on the phone, Vicky and Alison. She's saying, oh, party's and Allison. And she's like saying, Oh, party so fun. And Vicki's like, Oh, I wish I could be there, but I'm babysitting.

And you guys should come over here after the party and we can like smoke some weed or something after Julian goes to bed. Vicki and Julian have a very cute little relationship. Her and the little boy she's babysitting, they have a cute little conversation that I thought was really nice. And so I felt like they did a good job establishing these two people care about each other, they have a cute dynamic. But then Vicki puts Julian into bed, and she's like, okay, bedtime.

And he's giving her shit about, she's like, I know your friends are coming over, I know you guys are gonna smoke weed. And he's like, I could tell my mom. And she says, I'll tell her that you're like up too late or whatever, they're at a stalemate. So they agree to keep each other's secrets. And as Julian gets into bed,

Vicki says goodnight to him and leaves the room. And we see Julian looking at the closet door, which is open with a light on. Creepy. Okay. Back at the closet door, which is open with a light on. Creepy. Okay. Back at the Halloween party, Allison had gone to the bath or to talk to Vicki, I guess, and walks back to the dance floor and sees Cameron, her boyfriend, kissing another girl. No. Cameron.

Cameron. She storms off and Cameron notices. Crazy to do that when you're so obviously in a couple that you're doing a half of a couple's costume. Yeah, yeah. Pretty bold. Pretty bold, Cameron. And he chases after her and they,

he's immediately an asshole to her about it and just says like, I don't see what's a big deal. She kissed me. Like I didn't, I didn't want to kiss her. It's not that big of a deal. I don't know why you're being such a bitch about this. Oh, my God. He doesn't say that, but that's very much his vibe.

And she is obviously very annoyed with him. And he, for some reason, grabs her phone and throws it in a big bowl of pudding. Funny place to put it. They're at the snack table or whatever. Every teenage Halloween party has a big bowl of pudding. We've all been there. It's not a party if there's not a big bowl of pudding. It's not even orange or lime green or anything Halloweeny.

It's like vanilla pudding, yeah. Communal pudding. Ugh. Ugh, nasty. Although I do want some individual pudding now. We're talking about it. Or that like, what do they make? Like mud.

Why do they call it mud when you crush up Oreos? Worms and dirt? Yes, yes. Worms and dirt, worms and dirt. Worms and dirt? Yeah, I wanna eat that. That's Halloweeny. Now that's Halloweeny pudding.

It would have been better if this was a big bowl of worms and dirt. Although I guess it's not really a communal thing if this was a big bowl of worms and dirt, although I guess it's not really a communal thing. You wanna have individual cups of worms. You wanna have individual. Pudding should be individually served. Yeah, I think that's a good call.

So her phone is now out of commission. And she storms off, she leaves the party. Then we go back to Vicki at the house and Dave comes over, her boyfriend, and is like, oh, is Julian in bed? Like, it was just us. Now we can fool around because Cameron and Allison aren't here yet. So we've got the house to ourselves. So they start making out, which we know is a rule in Slashers that once you do that,

you're gonna die. And they're kissing and Julian comes down the stairs looking really scared and says, there's a man in my room. Oh no. And they're both like rolling their eyes like, oh, Julian, it's okay. Like, I'll come check, see the big man in your room. I'll make sure it's all okay. And he's like, no, no, no, like call the police.

Call my mom, call my parents, like call the police. There's a man in my room, I'm not joking. And this just really freaked me out as like being a kid and have like no one just- No one believes you? No one is believing you. Yeah, oh, that's scary. It's so shitty.

Cause they're both just like, oh yeah, I'll go check. And he's like, no, you can't go in there. You can't go in there. She's like, I'm strong, Julie. And I'm big and strong and tough. And I can protect you. Don't worry.

And it's like, no, but. Aw, Vicky. Oh no. And so she goes in the room and it looks empty. She does a scan and is looking in the corners. She does a little fake out scare like, oh my God, no, don't do that, which is really mean. Really mean.

And then was like, see, there's nobody in here, it's fine. So he gets back into bed, still looking very scared and confused. And then he says, can you close my closet door? She says, sure. And we see the light still on and she tries to close it, but it won't close all the way. She's pushing it, trying to like slam it closed.

It's stuck on something. She's like, what the hell? And then opens it. That is Michael. Of course it's Michael. She checked the room for men, but didn't check the closet? Yes, a really silly, Vicky.

Really silly mistake. What did you also be like, oh, sorry. No, really silly mistake. What did you also be like, oh, sorry, no, I'll stop. I'll stop. But you gotta ask more questions, you know? You don't immediately go in there. You gotta be like, what'd they look like? What happened? What'd you see?

You know? I, yes and no. I need to, the next time this happens, I need to write it down. I'll notice when I have moments after the fact that I'm like, oh, that was a horror movie moment where I just like completely did the thing that in a movie you'd be like, nobody would do that.

Like if I'm scared of something like a noise and I'm like, well, I will go investigate it. And- Right, cause you need to like make yourself feel better cause you need to make sure it's not a big deal. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. And so far it's worked out great for me.

Yeah. Yeah. Doing this podcast has probably taught me nothing. I'll still do all those things too. So he has a knife, obviously, slashes her. She stumbles away. She's, I don't know, like got cut on the face and chest, I guess, but it's not a kill stab. And she turns and runs. Julian runs and she's like, get out, go it's not a kill stab. And she turns and runs, Julian runs,

and she's like, get out, go Julian, run out of here. And as she turns, she's got socks on, she slips on the hardwood floor. And then he's able to grab her. And I think it cuts to her boyfriend, Dave, downstairs, hearing something and grabbing a weapon to come and try to help because there's obviously something really bad happening. And then we cut away so we don't see what happens. We see Officer Hawkins getting a call of a disturbance at this house

and responding to it. And so now we see the aftermath. He goes into the house and it's completely silent now. And we recognize this place. He goes upstairs into Julian's room and there's a figure in the corner covered in a ghost sheet, which is another little reference to the original movie. And he's approaching the sheet slowly and as he's about to pull it off, it's very tense. Is it going to be Michael? Is it going to be a dead body? Pulls it off. It is Vicky's

dead body. And then as he goes downstairs, we pass by Dave's dead body who is pinned to the wall, like a foot off the ground with a knife. That's another reference to the first one, right? Another reference to the first one, yes. We don't see Julian, I don't think. I went back and re-watched it, because I was like, where's Julian? And I cannot confirm or deny if he lived or died.

Oh man, so sad. So he lived, he's fine, he's thriving. We're really praying for Julian. Yeah. I hope he made it out okay. Hope so. He lived, he's fine, he's thriving. We're really praying for Julian. I hope he made it out okay. Hope so. Now Lori also arrives at the block because she has a little police scanner thing that she eavesdrops on.

So she has heard about this as well. So she arrives, talks to Hawkins and is like, he's back. I know he's back. Hawkins and is like, he's back. I know he's back. Hawkins confirms, yep, he's back. And for the first time she meets Sartain. He is here. He was in the hospital from his gunshot wound, but he's now in like a sling.

He's okay. And he's telling them, we've got to find him. He'll keep killing as long as he's out here. And they're like, yeah, we know. We know. We do got to find him. I agree. And Lori says, I prayed every night for him to escape. Lori. Dr. Sartain says, why would you do such a thing?

The power of prayer is real. You did this. You did this. She says, so that I could kill him. And then Officer Hawkins says, that was a dumb thing to pray for. Made me laugh. Their plan now is they're going to gather Laurie's family and go to her compound, which I feel like is probably the safer option. But don't you think if there were a lot of police involved that they'd be like, no, we'll go to the police station. Yes. But they're gonna go to her house. Okay.

And also don't we think that that's where Michael will be? So perhaps we have as few civilians in the home that Michael's going to. Yeah, that would be my thought. But who am I to say? A-cap. So they go to, or no, they're getting together. They can't get ahold of Alison

because her phone is in pudding. Right. And so now, and now we're freaking out because he's coming back. And so Lori's calling her over and over. It's emergency. Phone's in pudding, nothing she can do. We see that she is walking home with Cameron's friend

who is giving her a pep talk. Like, I'm sorry, he's such an asshole. You deserve so much better. You're so cool and pretty. You're like the coolest, prettiest girl in school. Clear that he's trying to swoop in. She is not picking up on it because it's incredibly inappropriate and...

Yeah. And then he tries to kiss her. She pushes him away. They've been taking like a shortcut, quote unquote, home. So they're hopping over fences in people's backyards. And... Teenagers are so dumb. I did shit like this for sure.

Yeah. Duh. Yeah, it's a really crazy time. She pushes him, he stumbles backwards and he's like, oh, what? Sorry, I'm like, I'm just so drunk and like, please don't tell Cameron. And fuck, I didn't write down the line, but it's funny. He's like, all the girls at the party were dancing on me all horny like or something like that. He's just basically like, what could you expect? I'm drunk and horny and a teenage boy. So duh, I tried to kiss you. And she's, you know, calling him a creep and

tells him not to follow her home. And he is sitting on the lawn in this backyard as she hops another fence and continues on without him. This backyard has a motion detector light in it. It was on when they hopped into the yard, but then he's now sitting there by himself and it turns off. This is so fun. I'm excited for this. I like this. He sees, well, we see Michael in the bushes

that looks like maybe it's in the yard next door and this guy's drunk and doesn't, he like notices him. He's like, hey man, sorry, I'm in your yard, I'm leaving. And he like loses sight of him and it's dark. And then the light goes on again and Michael is silhouetted much closer to him now. Not like, not in stabbing distance, but really close. And he's freaked out, obviously. And it's like, I'm leaving, man. Like, it's okay. Don't worry. I'm going to get out of here.

And then the light goes off again. and he's just too scared to move. And so they're just standing there in darkness, freaking out. And then the light comes on as Michael stabs him and he screams and runs. But there's a pretty high little metal gate that we saw Allison climb over, but it's not saying you just hop over. You gotta, it takes a couple seconds and he doesn't have enough time. Michael's right behind him and as he's trying to climb over this tall fence,

Michael stabs him in the back and I think lifts him. It's one of those wrought iron gates, of course, with the thing that, the pokey parts at the top. Yeah. Hate those. What are those for? Why are they there?

Exactly this. They're for this, they're for this, so that he can put his head on it like a spike through the bottom of the jaw. Ugh. Ouch, ouch. Ouchy, ouchy, ouchy. Ouch, that's an ouch.

That's a big ouch. So, Alison hears him screaming, and at first thinks he's fucking with her, but then it sounds pretty serious, and so she goes back to see if he's okay. And of course, like, catches the moment of him being impaled on the fence and stabbed in the back by Michael. So now she is running and screaming.

I would run and not scream. Yeah, I don't want to scream. Guess you don't have a lot of control over what happens. And maybe you want other people to become aware, but... Yeah. That's true. People don't react when you scream. We know that to be true. Yeah. Yeah.

So, we see that Karen and Ray and Lori have made it to Lori's house. There's another cop with them, not Hawkins that's going to be guarding the house or whatever. And Karen is freaking out because Allison is, they don't know where Allison is. And so they're reassuring her Hawkins is out looking for Allison. We're going to find her. We're going to bring her here. It's going to be, everything's going to be fine. And sure enough, we do see Hawkins finding Allison because she's just running through the street screaming. That's okay. It did work. Easy enough to find. It did work.

And Dr. Sartain is in the car with Hawkins as well. So they're in the front and Allison gets in the back. And they decide for some reason to just go looking for Michael. I guess because she's like, he's here, he's here. So they're like, all right, well, let's go get him, which seems silly. Does that mean he needs a ride? Maybe he needs a ride? Maybe he needs a ride. To do his next murder? It's like we have a child in our corner.

Now we are responsible for the well-being of a child. Yeah, one thing at a time, guys. Your job was to get Allison, not Michael. That's your next job. But they try to do a two-for-one and it's not a good idea. And they find Michael very easily because he doesn't, the man does not hide. He is also just walking down the middle of the street. Incredible.

And they ram him with their car. Dr. Sartain is going, don't hit him, don't hit him, don't hurt him. I love him. I love him, I'm obsessed with him. Michael, I love you. Throw him Allison. And oh, a little before this,

we had seen when it was just Hawkins and Sartain in the car, Sartain talking more about his fascination with Michael. He's like, yes, we know the effect of violence on victims, but what about the victimizer? What's going on in their brain when they're murdering? In a... Yeah, we're like... We don't care.

So, they hit Michael really hard, knocks him out. He's seemingly unconscious or dead on the ground. Sartain runs to his side and says, don't shoot him, don't shoot him. And Hawkins is yelling at him, get out of the way, get out of the way. Are you insane? Like get away from him.

He might not be dead. Hawkins has his gun drawn. And Sartain is basically like putting himself between Hawkins and Michael and is lowering down to check his pulse. And Hawkins yelling, what are you doing? Like get away from the body. And Sartain grabs a little pen from his pocket. It's a little secret knife, turns around and stabs Hawkins in the throat. What?

What? And then watches as he bleeds out. What? And he's like, oh, now I know what it feels like. Okay. Oh, you freak. Yeah. Great.

Michael is unconscious, but not dead. And he opens the back door of the police car where Allison is and throws Michael's body in there. What? Takes the mask and like puts the mask on himself and he's like, oh, we're going to go to your grandmother's house and have a reunion and this is going to be such a great advancement of science. Oh no.

We're going to really get some invaluable information from this reunion. How are you charting this data? I have no idea. He's like, it feels good, feels good to me. I like doing it. He says, this is the best opportunity to understand the mind of a killer. I disagree. I don't think that it is, but he seems pretty set on it. So he throws Michael in the back, he gets in the front, they're driving to Lori's now. And Alison, in realizing how obsessed Sartain is with Michael says, back when he attacked me and my friend, he spoke to me. And Sartain is like Michael says, back when he attacked me and my friend, he spoke to me.

And Sartain is like, what did he say? And she's like, stop the car and I'll tell you. He only said one word and I'll tell you as soon as you stop this car. And he stops the car and he's like, tell me the word, tell me the word. I must know what's the word that he said. I'm so hard right now. What word did he say? And she, as she's saying that, Michael starts waking up and she goes, fuck. And Michael, because he's so strong, kicks the back seat and like breaks through the bars or whatever metal plate that, you know, usually in a cop car, there's a prisoner guard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We know it, we know it. We all know it and we all know the term is exactly what I just said. Prisoner guard. Prison guard. Just prison guard. And Michael kicks it and is basically smashing Sartain's seat forward so that his face is slamming

into the steering wheel over and over. There's like blood spattering and Michael's able to just break out of the car, like breaks the door and then goes and grabs Sartain all while Alison is watching like in terror and shock because she can't, you know, those doors don't open from the inside. She can't get out. So she could only go out the door

that Michael just broke open, which he is in front of. But then he grabs Sartain and kind of drags him a little bit away from the car. And so it gives her a little opportunity to run. And so she just books it past them because he seems focused on Sartain for the moment. And she just runs straight into the woods. Michael sees her go, but he focuses back on Sartain. One thing at a time.

One thing at a time. He knows he understands. He understands. We have so much to learn from him. So much. Gosh. We wouldn't be in this mess if we all thought a little more like Michael. Just listen to Michael. Yeah. Wow. And Sartain is looking up at him saying, say something, say something, Michael. Yeah. Wow. And Sartain is looking up at him saying,

say something, say something, Michael, anything. Make out with me, make out. I love you, Michael. I've always loved you. And Michael takes off his mask and kisses him on the mouth. Yes. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Wouldn't that be-

I wish, I wish. No, he stomps on his head and it explodes. Okay. The other option. Very nasty. We see Alison running through the woods and she runs through, there's all these discarded nasty mannequins

in the middle of the woods looking like they're having some sort of tea party arranged in a way that is very strange. And I'm again, just calling it out because I didn't know why this happened. I don't know who put those there. Maybe there's some reference to- Did Michael do it?

Did Michael do it? Did he have time to do that? Maybe it is a reference to another movie, it could be. Maybe there's some mannequin stuff in one of the other- In one of the previous, yeah. Okay. Now we go back to Lori's house. We see Ray outside as a cop car is pulling up.

We saw that Michael saw two other cops nearby and they went to go investigate the other cop car that we just know he stomped that guy's head in. And so now this cop car rolls up to Lori's house, which I thought was barricaded and I'm a little confused as to now how, I mean, I guess it's the cop car, so maybe they had an access code or something, but this pulls up. Ray walks out to ask them, have you found her? Do you, any updates?

Because they still don't have their daughter. And knocks on the window, no one is answering. He opens the door and it's of course dead cops. One cop is dead in the driver's seat and then he's holding the other cop's decapitated head, which has, I think, been carved out like a pumpkin and has a little candle in it. Or maybe it's their flashlight, but it's lit up like a jack-o-lantern, which is really fun.

That's really fun. Really fun and festive. He's so good at arts and crafts. Oh my God, he's so, he just, he's really having a good time. That's the thing, he's not rushing on to the next thing. He's finishing what he starts. I'm gonna turn this into a jack-o-lantern first. I'm gonna make the most of every moment.

I'm gonna make the most of it. He lives life to the fullest. I just, you know. It's a beautiful story. It's a beautiful holiday story. I really appreciate his philosophy in life. I really do. As Ray sees this, he starts screaming and we see Michael walking up right behind him with a rope or something that he strangles him with. Ray dies.

Oh, damn. Sorry, Ray. Sorry, Ray. We see Lori inside the house seeing this happen through the window, which all the windows are reinforced with like metal bars and stuff, which is good. But she's got her gun and she's like, it's happening. He's here. Karen. By the way, your husband's dead.

Yeah, Karen is going like, Ray, Ray, is he out there? And Lori says, you gotta get in the basement. Get in the basement right now. And Karen is crying and presses the little button for the kitchen island to rotate open, revealing the hidden door to the basement. Lori turns to look back through the window, doesn't have eyes on Michael anymore.

And she's holding her shotgun, like leaning up against the door, trying to peek out, see if she can see him. His hands shoot through the glass on either side of her, like through the door, little looking glass thing, but only his hands can fit through. But then he's grabbing her neck and lifting her from her neck and strangling her and she's kicking and trying to get free, but he's stronger than her. Karen is downstairs screaming because she hears obviously something is wrong, but she doesn't want to go up there. And she's trying to say, Mom, Mom, are you okay?

And Lori is trying to aim her shotgun at Michael, but she can't get the right angle. And then he grabs it, but he grabs it by the end. Uh-oh. And she pulls the trigger, shoots his hand, so he drops her and she's able to run away and she goes into the basement as well and we hear him breaking down the door as she's able to close the little secret passageway,

which I think I noticed that the button, it's like a remote that they always seem to leave right on top of the thing. And it's like, take it with you in there. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. To be fair, he never finds it. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. To be fair, he never finds it. Oh, okay. But we hear his heavy footsteps moving through the house now. He's inside where they're holding their breath.

They've got their gun there. Oh my God, he's in here. He's in here. We can see his little shadows of his foots, his feetsies as he's moving around upstairs. And Lori shoots up at him where he is, which I think is dumb because you're now giving away that there even is a basement. He might not have even known, but now he knows they're down there. And she, I can't really remember how this happens, but they seem pretty safe down there.

He can't figure out how to get down there. I think he would eventually, but before he has a chance to figure it out, Lori says, I need to finish this. I'm sorry, Karen, I need to go out there and kill him. It's just like literally what I've spent my whole life preparing for. So I'm gonna go kill him.

And Karen's like, okay. Yeah, I mean, if I'm Karen, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, you know, do what you gotta do, mom. Like I agree that this needs to this needs to stop. Yeah. One way or another. Yeah. So she exits the safe room in the basement. We don't know where Michael went. We don't have eyes on him.

So she starts checking every room in the house and she goes upstairs, well, she starts downstairs where they are and will go in each room. She's got a flashlight and her gun. She's checking every corner, every little nook and cranny. Most of the rooms are empty. And once she's cleared a room, she presses a button that makes this metal grate fall down and like locks the room, which I thought was very clever.

Yeah, here I am thinking like, why wouldn't you just live in one big studio? Yeah. You know? Yeah. No rooms. Yeah. Just the one.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can see wanting to have places to hide, but it's also a place for him to hide. True. But this seems like she's got a good system here with this sort of room, room locking mechanism. It's a pretty good system here with this sort of room-locking mechanism. It's a pretty good system and eventually she makes her way upstairs as she's clearing room after room and the layout of this house

I don't know if it is the exact same house as the 1978 movie but the layout of the house is feeling familiar and we're arriving in the room that looks the most similar to the room where the final scene of the original was It's like her room that's filled with mannequins for some reason. Maybe they're what she uses for shooting practice or something. Oh, that makes sense. Okay. I don't think we established enough of it for it to, I don't know,

serve any real purpose here other than being spooky. Like, did he move them in there or were they already in there? Like, was he trying to be like, oh, I'm going to freak her out with all these mannequins and move them into her bedroom? Seems like he's got kind of a thing going on with mannequins. Or does she just keep them in there? It all seems like, does he have a staff working for him?

He's getting so much done in such a short amount of time. He's just motivated and thriving. Really diligent. Yeah. Yeah. He puts in the work. He's really good at. He puts in the work. It's really good, his job. She's got her gun. She goes to the closet.

And I think that's where he was hiding in the original movie. And so there's a scene that mirrors that scene where she opens the closet and he's not in there. Ray's dead body is in there, which is again, interesting. He's not gonna leave them out there on the front lawn. Let's make the most of it. Let's put him up in the closet. This will be for a good finale.

Like, I got a spooker, really good. And then she turns around and he appears from behind all the mannequins, lunges at her. They get in a little hand-to-hand combat, breakthrough, or like go out the balcony door and she falls off the balcony. If you remember in the first one, he falls off the balcony. Ouch.

And he's looking down at her, unconscious, on the yard, on the grass. The same way the roles were reversed in the first one. When Allison runs in, the front door of the house yelling, grandmother, grandmother. And Michael turns, hearing this, and then when he turns back, Lori is gone. Nice. Oh, really? A little taste of his own medicine.

Oh, I like that a little taste of his own medicine. Oh, I like that, Michael. I like that. And then Michael goes downstairs, grabs a fire poker. Love to see it. And he starts, oh, Alison has gotten into the basement. I think Karen like came up and grabbed her and was like, come in here, come in here. And so he knows they're in there

because he knows there's a basement safe room and he heard the kitchen island thing move, but he doesn't know how to do it. I guess maybe they did hide the button this time because he's trying to physically knock it over or wiggle it side to side. And he eventually does because he's very strong. While this has all been happening,

we see Karen and Allison crying downstairs, like, oh my God, oh my God, what are you going to do? There's a lot of guns. Karen grabs a gun. She's like, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. This is happening. She's aiming the gun up the stairs, basically at the entrance where the island is covering. She's aiming the gun up and he pulls off the kitchen island, but she can't see where he is. But someone, if they want to come in here, will have to come down these stairs. And so she's aiming the gun where they would have to come. And she's crying and she's going, Mom, Mom, please, can you help us?

I can't do it, Mom. I can't do this by myself. And then Michael steps in front of, like perfectly in her line of vision, and she says, gotcha, and shoots him. Oh yeah. Liked it, she was faking it. Oh yeah.

And Lori is behind him, I think has also shot him, and this is a head shot. We got a head, he gets a head shot here and Lori says, happy Halloween, Michael. Oh my God. But Michael's not dead. You think a shot in the head is gonna kill Michael? It won't kill Michael.

That won't kill Michael. He doesn't even freaking bat an eye. It must have clipped his ear or something. We see it go through the mask. So it's- Okay. Got it's- Okay. Got it, got it. We don't see, there was some blood that squirted out of it,

but it's again, clearly not a kill shot. So he starts swinging his fire poker at Lori. She grabs a cast iron skillet off the stove. Pretty nicely matched weapons, I think. They're flailing about throwing those at each other. And eventually she's able to knock Michael into the basement. They're flailing about throwing those at each other. And eventually she's able to knock Michael into the basement. And Karen and Allison now are trying to run out of the basement.

Allison gets out, but as Karen is trying to get out, he is up and grabs her ankle trying to pull her in. Allison sees a knife on the ground, grabs it, stabs Michael. Alison gets a stab in her very first stab. Nice. She's really part of the family now. I know. And then I think Karen also stabs him. And then Lori tops it off by kicking him in the face and he falls into the basement and there's a line where earlier Lori had

said, I know you think this is my cage. And then now Karen says to Allison, it's not a cage, it's a trap. And they press a button as Michael's trying to come out of the basement, all these swords like crisscross at the exit. So locking him in there like prison bars, prison guard. Joel and I just rewatched for like the 50th fucking time, Rogue Nation the other night. And that's just reminded me of when they get the freaking, what's his,

I can't even remember his name, even though I've seen this movie 50 times. In a glass box, they trick him into getting into a glass box. Yes. Solomon Lane, anyway, I remembered it. Solomon Lane. And yeah, so we see them flip a switch and all these gas leaks start happening all over the house.

It's just- Just like when they put Solomon Lane in a glass box. And Lori says goodbye, Michael, and throws a match or whatever down there, lights the whole house on fire as they get out. Police are arriving and they're sitting in the back of a truck that they've waved down and looking like, oh, we did it. We've escaped Michael. And we see Allison is still gripping the knife and zoom in on the knife. And that's the end of the movie. The implication is not that she's going to do anything bad with the knife. I think it's more just like, look at this

important knife. She knows how to use a knife now. And also, were they expecting there to be more movies? Or was this supposed to be like a final, final one? I think that it was supposed to be, but yeah, then they... Did so well that they were like, gotta do more. We didn't see it die. Fool me once. Fool me can't get fooled again. I'm curious about the rest of this trilogy.

I do want to follow Jamie Lee Curtis and her family, and Judy Greer. Yeah. I want to see what happens next. Yeah, I think you get to. And we will do Halloween 2, the original Halloween 2, at some point as well. Great.

Let's do it all. I want to see that, and I want to see Halloween H2O. Me too. I'm curious about the Aqu. I wanna see that and I wanna see Halloween H2O. Me too, I'm curious about the aquarium Halloween. Yeah, I wanna see how many dolphins are actually in it. I hope it's a lot. Or is Halloween on ice? That'd be fun. Halloween Frozen H2O.

Starting Kristen Bell. I loved it, loved every second of it, no notes. Same, perfect, perfect film. Michael Myers is absolutely perfect. I just simply love him. Any movie about podcasters, I'm just immediately into because I'm like, this is a story about me. This one was for us. I like seeing myself represented on screen.

Yeah, so rarely does it happen. So rare. It's really nice when they get it right. So, happy spooky season to us all. Happy spooky season! Just felt like we've got to start it off with a... It's a good way to start. Something that takes place in the month of October.

Exactly, with my favorite guy. And yeah, we'll be back. Second favorite, second favorite. Oh my God, I hope Joel's not listening. Oh my God, I hope he's not listening, he's gonna be so mad. He's gonna be so pissed. He's gonna be so mad at me.

I love you guys so much. I love you so much. I love you, I love you, I miss you guys. I miss you already, I miss you already. Don't make me sad. Don't make me sad. Don't make me sad. Don't make me sad. So anyways, goodbye. We'll be back.

With more episodes, of course, for all of Spooky Season. My brain just turned off and I'm trying to turn it back on. So we got to sign off right now. We got to sign off. Happy freaking spooky season. What a time. Should I do some breathing? Breathing. I forgot to talk about his breathing.

Cause you know, that's his thing that he likes to do is just kind of breathe. Well, it's hard to breathe through a plastic mask. Yeah, I get it. So, and he's exerting himself quite a lot. I'll also be honest with you guys. I'm kind of a mouth breather myself. Aren't we all?

It's a vulnerable admission. Thank you for your honesty. No. I am too. I'm definitely a mouth breather. I'm not stoked about it, but I breathe better out of my mouth, just like Michael. Wow.

You know, have you guys seen that whole trend where you're supposed to tape your mouth shut when you go to bed? Oh, I don't like that at all. Oh, this is a beauty trend. Tape? Are you guys not? Like scotch tape?

They are making mouth tape. They're businesses built on mouth tape. This is freaky. I don's like scotch tape. They are making mouth tape. Their business is built on mouth tape. This is freaky. I don't like this at all. It's supposed to be good for your jawline and it's also supposed to give you energy. So if you guys want more energy, just tape that old mouth shut when you go to bed. I can't see any way in which it could go wrong. Yeah, definitely not.

Oh no. It increases oxygen flow into your blood vessels and gives you a snatched jawline. I like breathing out of my mouth. Oh, we are so fucking doomed. I'm sorry. These are end days. These are end days.

Yeah, it feels like it. Well, hey, you know what? Whatever works for you. I'm happy to be spending them with you guys and all you listeners. What a way to go. What a way to go with the spookiest month of the year. We love you guys. Love you so much.

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