Too Scary; Didn't Watch - INSIDE (2007)

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. People throwing parties, ugly sweaters everywhere, stockings hung up by the chimney with care. It could only mean one thing. McRib is here. At Participating McDonald's for a Limited Time. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies. And so I watch them so that you don't have to. And we have a Christmas movie today. Okay. I've heard some whisperings about this movie and none of them have been good.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah, I'm getting my revenge for two weeks of easy movies, but let me tell you, the punishment does not fit the crime here. I did not know quite how severe this was gonna be. And that's just how things are in this country. It's true. Oh, that's true. So that's America. We just have to accept that's America and this is, we get what's coming to us.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Fuck. You really have me nervous, Sammy. I'm pretty nervous. You haven't acted this way in a while about a movie. It's been a while since. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yeah. I'm nervous. I do think this one, I'm not looking forward to whatever is about to happen. I'm really and truly not. I told Joel, I was like, when I'm done, we are ordering takeout and we are putting on a Christmas movie. I was like, I need to be ready to pick myself back up after whatever is about to happen. Smart. And I'm so sorry Henley's going to be going straight to bed after this. Straight to bed.
Starting point is 00:02:30 But yeah, you can watch some like Seth Meyers day drinking and then go straight to bed. That's a good idea. That's usually my palate cleanser. I'm not sure what my palate cleanser will be this evening. Maybe it should be that cinnamon book club bookstore book I sent you guys last night, which is a romance. Wait, I need to show everyone the cover of it because I'm gonna read this. The cinnamon bun bookstore.
Starting point is 00:02:59 All it takes is a little bit of sugar and spice. Wow. That's what I'm going to read after this. That is absolutely perfect. Well, listeners, if you want to jump straight to the big reveal, there are timestamps in the show notes because before we get into it, we have a little bit of haunted housekeeping to do. And I guess first we should say that this is
Starting point is 00:03:26 going to be available as a video episode on our Patreon. I mean, what are the chances of us going viral for being hot on YouTube? Is it worth it? Extremely high. Honestly, I actually think we shouldn't put this on YouTube because I'm not ready to go viral. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Same, same, same. Good call. Okay. Let's keep, let's sort of keep our-
Starting point is 00:03:45 Let's keep the circle small. Let's keep our sanity and prioritize our mental health and choose when and how we go viral for being hot, which is not now and not today, and not for this. Perfect, okay, so this will be available on our Patreon at patreon.com slash TSEW podcast. And then we just have a few special shout outs to say. We do have some shout outs.
Starting point is 00:04:08 First of all, it was Joel's 40th birthday party last night. It was. Happy birthday, our dearest correspondent, horror spoustint, our only horror spoustint. Only horror spoustint. We love you so much. We love Joel so much. We love Joel so much. We really do.
Starting point is 00:04:26 He set the bar high. He just set the bar high for being a horror spoustint. He does that with everything in his life. He does. He really does. He keeps setting that bar high. He really does. And then second, we are saying happy birthday to our producer, Grace.
Starting point is 00:04:46 This episode comes out on her birthday. So happy birthday, Grace. We love you so much too. Happy birthday, Grace. A little behind the scenes. Grace is present in her own way in every episode for the past six months, more than that. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Nine months. I don't know what this year has been, but I do know that Grace has made our lives just infinitely better. Thank you, Grace. Deeply grateful for Grace. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Grace is always sneaking in a joke into her emails. Oh, it always brings a smile to my face. It just always brings a smile to my face. Really is nice. You're not expecting face. You're not expecting it. You're not expecting it and then you're hit with a real good one liner. And Grace, I don't know if I've ever expressed that to you, but I know you're listening and I just want you to know. It's appreciated.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I love you. It's appreciated. It is. So wish a happy birthday to Grace, everybody. She makes the podcast. The world go round. Go round. Yep. And I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I think that's all our haunted housekeeping. Just really two very important happy birthdays. So. Love it. Now, will you guys tell me if anything scary happened to you this week? I mean, no. I mean, we said this just before we got on.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's the holiday season and it was just Joel's birthday. And every year I forget how much, from Joel's birthday through New Year's, it is constant, constant activity, going out, socializing, drinking, seeing people. All these things are wonderful things that I love to do, but it's so much in a two week span of time. We've only just begun and I already have felt myself
Starting point is 00:06:34 being like, oh, oh boy, oh boy. But we did spend all day today being very lazy. We did a puzzle for like hours this afternoon, which is new to us. And it was a real, real treat. So. I'm glad to hear it. It's all about balance.
Starting point is 00:06:54 It's all about balance. You're puzzling during the day, you're drinking at night. Exactly, puzzle all day, party all night. That's what they say, that's how you have to do it. So, you know, great. Making it through. Yeah. OK. Well, I I need some real advice from you guys because I am wondering how to avoid becoming a prepper.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Oh, because I am really on the brink of becoming a prepper. OK, I don't know that I'm the best person at asking. I know, Sammy. You're probably... Okay, so basically, I just want to raise the question. So two nights ago, right before going to bed, I opened my phone up. First thing that comes up is the New York Times Instagram post
Starting point is 00:07:38 about the drone sightings over New Jersey. Have you guys been following this? I saw it, I saw it, yeah. So, I was about to turn the light off, you know, and this is like the last video I see. I'm turning the light off. I'm closing my eyes. The room is dark in my head. I'm going, well, this is it. And you've done fucking nothing. You fucking bitch. Where where where your supplies? Where your supplies? How are you going to keep your family safe when the drones come to your house?
Starting point is 00:08:10 And so of course I didn't sleep. And of course I go downstairs to the couch, turn the lights on, immediately spend $250 on lifestraw.com, which is like the water filtration system. I got the straws for, you know, in case we're hiking through the woods and we need to drink like some, some river water. No, that's a real thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It's a straw that you can drink river water from. Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah. I would get one of those. They're only like 20 bucks. It's so worth it. Yeah. I got a lot of stuff from that website and then I really went down to rob a hole of like
Starting point is 00:08:47 other things and I was like, whoa, this is overwhelming. This is too much. Anyway, I don't know. Is this because I feel like you don't want to be a prepper, right? Because then that's anti-social behavior. It's not necessarily. But it's not bad to be prepared.
Starting point is 00:09:03 You don't want it to. Well, so that's the thing. You don't want it to. Well, so that's the thing. You don't want it to be. Where's the line? Where is the line? You don't want it to be taking up all of your thoughts all of the time. Yes. I think that when it becomes your personality, when it becomes the single most important
Starting point is 00:09:18 thing to you, more important than living the life that you currently have, then I think that's when it veers into prep or two. I think you make a finite list of things that you want that would make you feel better and then like water. Walk away. And then you have to walk away and you can't do any more research into it and you can't look at more different ways that the world could end.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Put a date on your calendar once a year, right? So say, you know, it's December 15th. December 15th is the day. Prepping day. That you get, you prep, prep, prep, prep day. And you make your list, you check it twice, you do your inventory, you see what do I need, and then you get those things and then you put it away.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And then December 15th next year, you go, does anything need to be updated? Does anything need to be replaced? Do I need, you know. That's a really good idea. And you just do that. I like that idea. And that's it, and you leave it, and you just, and you don't add to your list,
Starting point is 00:10:14 and you can maybe make a rule. You can add like one thing a year, you know? But you can't just keep adding to the list. I really like the yearly portion of it, because that's so hopeful and optimistic that there will be another year to prep. So first of all, I love that head space that we're in. Wow, I am really fascinated at the way that you saw that.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Second of all. That's really, yep. Because you think you're gonna need to be like month to month like the next month is, but that's what you have your December 15th, you've got your stuff, you know, you're good for the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So no, this is where my head goes.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Like the second I start thinking this way, I like just immediately go to worst case scenarios, like so fast and it's hard for me to like stop. Well that's what that head space does. Yeah, of course, of course. And so you can't live there. It's bad for everyone in your life, it's bad for you. It's not a good way to be.
Starting point is 00:11:06 However... It's like bad even if you're right is the thing. Well, no. I don't think so. I think if you're right and you end up like the... I mean, I don't know, what kind of life do you want to live? What was the Nick Offerman and what's his name in the zombie apocalypse movie?
Starting point is 00:11:24 You know, they ultimately kind of had a sad demise, and what's his name in the zombie apocalypse movie. They ultimately kind of had a sad demise, but they also had a beautiful love story in between, all because Nick Offerman was a prepper. Yeah, and I wonder what the whole of his life was up until that point. Seems like pretty bad. I don't know, no, no, that's what I'm wondering though.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Can you have the best of both worlds? Can you live your fullest life now and also in the apocalypse? Is it possible to have it all? I'm wondering. Can women have it all? Can women have a full life in the present and a full life in the doomed future?
Starting point is 00:12:00 I think we can. Look. Okay. Just keep it. I think you just gotta turn it on and turn it off. I think that's the, you gotta try. You gotta try. I certainly can do that. I mean, I'm very good at that.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I am curious about this finite list because I feel like the second I start making a list, it's hard to make it finite. Part of me was like, leave it at water, leave it at the filtered water, put it down. That's a big one. Put it down, walk away. Water, it is probably the most important one.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Mm-hmm, yeah. Water, maybe I'd say like canned goods that you can open without a can opener. Right. And one of those blankets that gets super warm, but it's small. Mm-hmm, first aid kit. First aid kit, you're done. See how immediately, so okay, you're done super warm, but it's small. First aid kit.
Starting point is 00:12:46 First aid kit, you're done. See how immediately, so okay, you're done. No, but that's it, that's the whole list. That's it. All right, I love it. Food, water, a blanket, and some first aid. It's like, that'll get you at least through to like, knowing if the end is really happening,
Starting point is 00:13:02 or if it's like, you know, it buys you some time. Right. Because if the end is really happening or if it's like, you know, it buys you some time. Because if the end is really happening, you're never gonna be able to, you're gonna have to be like station 11 and like go to the store day of and just buy everything. You can't do that now. I know, I know. We're gonna have to learn to hunt fish,
Starting point is 00:13:21 build our own homes, you know, you can't do that now. That's where we become prepper because that's, that's when you turn your whole life now into preparing for a thing that isn't our current reality. That's when it gets tough. Oh, completely. We're very adaptable, you know? Also, I think this is like,
Starting point is 00:13:38 as soon as I start feeling myself become even a little bit of a prepper, I started thinking about Mark Zuckerberg. I started thinking Mark Zuckerberg's a fucking prepper. Fuck that guy. I don't need anything like him. I don't need anything like these billionaires who are like building compounds to like sequester themselves. It's very bleak.
Starting point is 00:13:56 It's really like, it's the opposite of optimism. Exactly, exactly. Well, and it's like, if they know something we don't know and we survive, it's like, if they know something we don't know and we survive, it's like, then we have to just be on the planet with them. Right. It's like, is it just going to be us and them? And them. It's different because you have small children.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I know. But for me, I'm like, look, depending on what it's like out there, I don't know that I need to really be a part of it. You know, how long do I wanna have to do that? Not long. So, you know, it's hard to say him. I saw the thing about the drones and I went, I'm not looking into that.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I did the same. Like really, it didn't cause me a moment's pause. I just went like, ha. I was like. Scrolled right past. I'll hear more about it when I need to. Yeah. If it becomes a bigger issue that affects me directly, I'll either hear about it or if there's a big life ending event, then there's a well. A well. That's a good
Starting point is 00:15:00 way to, I think that's the right path. The drones hopefully don't mean anything. I mean, a lot of government officials at the state level have been calling on the federal government to do a more thorough investigation because the FBI basically said like, well, don't worry about it. It's not a public safety concern, but then haven't said like what they are. And so they're like senators being like, you guys need to like fucking tell us what they are. And the FBI is like, we'll get to it. Yeah, if they did know, they would tell us.
Starting point is 00:15:32 If they did their research, they would let us know for sure what it was. And they'd be honest. Somewhat recently watched the movie Contact. And the craziest thing about it was the government's transparency with the American people. Just like every step of the way, there's like news conferences announcing exactly what's going on with everything they have found. Just really made me laugh. They would not do that.
Starting point is 00:15:58 They would not do that. Okay, great. This helped orient me. The straws seem like a great idea. I'll get some straws. Yeah, lifestraw.com. Great. Done. And I'll think about it again next December 15th. December 15th. Put it on the cow. Put it on the cow. Prep day.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Prep day. Well, my scary thing is quite different, though I am very familiar with the predicament you're in right now, Henley. You know I've spent a lot of time on the Collapse subreddit and it's not a great place to be. Not a healthy place to spend time. Not a good thing to think about all the time. But this week, or really for the past couple of weeks, I have been in a game with some friends that is a music league.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And basically... You hate music. Every round, someone chooses a theme and everyone has to submit songs that they think fit that theme. So our most recent round was bad covers of songs. I found a cover that The Used did of Burning Down the House by Talking Heads. This song is available on the Transformers Revenge of the Fallen soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Okay. But yeah, the scary thing is that I hate music and it's just made me have like a lot of fun around music things and I've found myself talking about it with other people and being just more conversational about music and yeah, it really goes against some of my core values. Yeah. And I don't know if it's making me like music more. It's just making me talk about it and think about it more. And I do like music. I say it tongue in cheek.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I just don't like it the way most people like it. I'm just different. I'm different from other girls. It's not an interest. It's not an interest of mine. Yeah, it's like, I like music, but I'm not like into music. I'm not, knowing about and knowing music
Starting point is 00:18:16 is not a thing that matters to me. Yep. If you put it on and I like it, I'll be like, this is great. I'm not gonna seek it out. I'm not gonna learn the things. I'm not gonna know what's out. I'm not going to learn the things. I'm not going to know what's cool. I don't care. Yep.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I really don't care. Music is one of the few things that makes me feel alive. Yeah. And you're good. I like the music that you tell me is good. However, as I age, do not have the fortitude to find new music in the same way that I used to. I just... Too many things out there.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. It's overwhelming. I can't do it. But I wish that I did it more, because when I find music I like, it literally like... It can take my mood from bad to good. I mean, it's one of the only things that can actually turn my mood around. Interesting, because my thought when I hear that is,
Starting point is 00:19:02 don't you already have enough music that you found in life? No. Because like- No, because it doesn't last, it's like a drug. Because this is how- Like you can revisit it, but- I feel with movies, and I know that- Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Emily will have your mindset of like, I know the movies I like and I watch those movies. And maybe not to the same degree. Emily likes new movies too, but leans towards movies that you've already seen. And so it just is funny to me that it's like a. I like to know the music. Sometimes I'm off put when I hear something new
Starting point is 00:19:41 and I'm like, but I don't know how this goes. I can't sing along to this. I don't know this. There's an in-between stage. You have to get to know the music, then you love the music. And then it's new. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And then you love it. And then you listen to it too much. And then you're like, I need to pause. I need the new one. I do get it because of, specifically because of Chappellrone. Like I really went too hard. And now I'm like.
Starting point is 00:20:04 No, Spotify fucked Chappellrone. Spotify fucked Chappellrone. Like I really went too hard and now I'm like... No, Spotify fucked Chappellrone. Spotify fucked Chappellrone for me. I hate Spotify. I hate Spotify. Yeah, I can't do it anymore. So I do get overdoing music. It's just crazy to me that you've done that with all the music you've ever listened to.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Well, no, it's a good point. And part of the reason I hate Spotify is that I can't, I don't have a clear linear collection of the music that I like because I'm not also like a good organizer of things. So I could have been making very like precise playlists of... It's not like an iTunes library where you have it all in one place of all the music you've ever listened to that you like. It's lost to you if you don't like organize it yourself. So that's something I could also be better about.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah. Got to get you a record player and some records. Yeah. I have that. I have that. I don't know. Okay. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So anyways, pretty scary to all of a sudden like music and talk about music more than usual. Pretty scary. But not as scary as what's about to happen because this week we are going to be talking about the 2007 French film Inside. Oh no, no, I know what this movie is. No, no. Samantha. It was directed by Julianne Mori and Alexander Bustillo, written by Alexander Bustillo, starring Beatrice Dahl and Allison Paradis streaming available for you to rent or buy, which I bought it. It was $3.99 to rent and $4.99 to buy, so I thought I might as well get one extra dollar.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Well, at least I'm not pregnant right now, so I feel like it'll be easier. If you're pregnant and listening, just turn this off right now. Do not listen. I saw some comments somewhere, I think maybe on the YouTube of the trailer that someone had shown this to a friend that they didn't know was pregnant, like hadn't told them that they were pregnant yet. So yeah, yeah, big trigger warning for pregnancy related things, not recommended for the, for pregnant or planning to be pregnant. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Henley's reaction right now is, I don't know anything about this movie other than how upsetting you have told me it is, Sammy, and that's kind of enough for me to... Emily, I don't think you're gonna like it either. No, I know I'm not. With some of the like... I know I'm not.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It's a pretty body-oriented... Yeah. I just know like the two-sentence plot I read of it. Sure. If it makes you feel any better, and I don't think it will, but knowing how upset you were gonna be made my viewing experience less enjoyable as well. Because everything that happened, I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:10 oh fuck, she's not, oh god damn it. God damn it, god damn it. Oh my god, I broke my like two week no drinking for this episode and honestly I might need to have another glass of wine. I have one glass of wine and I might need to have a second glass of wine. Yeah, you might. Yeah, you might, you might.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Just warning. You do what you gotta do. Well, this movie has an 87% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 6.7 on IMDB. Budget was 2.5 million, It made $530,000. I can't imagine it had like a wide theatrical release, but I'm not sure. Some trivia. This is part of, we've talked about before, the new French extremity movement. This is movies from the mid aughts, early to mid aughts, French films that are kind of the French version of torture porn. Other ones we've covered are Martyrs and High Tension.
Starting point is 00:24:22 God damn it. Yeah, so that's kind of what we're in for. Wait, who's the director? Can you like tell me some or who's the writer? I wanna know more about the creative vision behind this film. I don't have any of that information. I'm not familiar with these writer directors.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Are they women? I don't think so, no. Oh. Julian and Alexander, so they're both, they're both could be. Could be, probably not. No, they are both men. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Wow. Wow. So brave. That is so brave of them. That is really brave of them. What they embarked upon was very brave. Yeah. So brave, that is so brave of them. That is really brave of them. What they embarked upon was very brave. Very brave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah, you're not gonna like it. I'm not gonna like this one little bit. Wait, I have to literally take some deep breaths so that I don't get too angry too quickly. Stay calm. Take some deep breaths. Yep. Breathing is good.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Stay calm. Take some deep breaths. Yep. Breathing is good. It also has an English language remake, Like Martyrs, from 2016 that has very, very bad reviews. A cursed year all around. A cursed year all around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And the good news is the movie's only 82 minutes long. Love that. Oh, so... How bad could it get in 82 minutes? But yeah, bad news is there's a lot that happens in there. But I have the trailer for us to watch. What do you think? I just can't imagine you wanting to watch it at the end.
Starting point is 00:26:03 So I kind of feel like we have to do it now. I think we just need to do it now because once we're done with this recap, I need to close the door on this forever. Yeah, I think we got to do it now. I won't be able to do it afterwards. So let's just do it. And I will say that I couldn't find one
Starting point is 00:26:19 that had English subtitles. So this has English graphics, but every time they speak, you're just going to hear French. There's not a ton of talking in it, but... Great. It's the best I could do. Best I could do. Sorry. Hey, you know what? You do what you can.
Starting point is 00:26:32 French is a lovely language to listen to. Yeah. Just imagine that they're saying really nice things to each other. Yeah. Close your eyes and just picture Chocolat. I'm going to turn the sound all the way down and close my eyes. A.K.A. I'm not going to watch it. I was going to say, you're probably probably not gonna watch it anyways, but... I'm not gonna watch it. You have to pretend, at least pretend.
Starting point is 00:26:49 I listened to the first second of audio. Nope. Nope. Nope. Okay, so excited. Oh, God. Damn it. No!
Starting point is 00:27:00 The audio started without me wanting it to. It starts right away. And it's really upsetting. It's too much already. to. It starts right away. It's really upsetting. It's too much already. It's too much right away. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. Oh I'm not interested. We'll watch it. We'll watch it. Get in here. No! No! No!
Starting point is 00:28:19 No! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:28:32 Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:28:40 Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! I think that was Italian. I was going to say sounded like Italian. So anyway, um, uh-oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Oh my God. I didn't, I didn't watch a single frame Yep, I couldn't oh no, I know my boundaries and One of them was watching this trailer and I will listen to what happens and I will turn them into Muppets in my brain Great, and it will all be fine. Great. Great. It'll just be muppets. It's almost as if I immediately forgot that you said it was the new French extremity because
Starting point is 00:29:31 I was like, yeah, I think like a pregnancy horror, I'm like, oh, it's probably going to be deeply psychological. And then it's like, nope, nope, nope. That's not what this is. That's not what this is. Oh no. Oh my God. Oh no. Yeah. That was my letterbox review. Oh no. Oh no. Oh my God. Oh no. Yeah. That was my letterbox review. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Hey, you know what? Let's just, let's just fucking go. Let's just go. After this, I have like probably y'all gonna get it like a big burrito and watch the Family Stone. So you know, this is the only thing standing between me and the rest of my life.
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Starting point is 00:33:47 After you place your order, select podcast in the survey and select our show in the dropdown menu that follows. We begin inside with a extremely bad looking CGI baby in the womb. extremely bad looking CGI baby in the womb. This is like Ali McBeal dancing baby level CGI. Absolutely terrible. Let's stay in this space. Let's stay in this space.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Let's stay there. Let's stay there. The baby is peacefully floating when we hear the sounds of a car accident happening and the baby being flung, putting the baby's hands up, and then we reveal outside that this couple has gotten into a car accident. The woman is pregnant and her husband has died in this car accident. This woman is our protagonist. Her name is Sarah. And this car accident looks like really, really awful. She's covered in blood. It's the gore in this and all those effects look really good and it looks absolutely devastating. We see an overhead shot of the car accident and it's two cars basically T-boned. And then it cuts to black. We get our main title sequence again, all over CGI baby womb things and umbilical cords and pretty gross, honestly, like a lot of, a lot of intestiny things.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And then we get a title card four months later, and we see a completely dead behind the eyes Sarah just looking absolutely miserable at the doctor's office. Everything's very blue, looks really cold and sterile. And there is just not one ounce of joy in this expecting mother's eyes. She's talking to her doctor who lets us know that it's Christmas Eve, reminder it's a Christmas movie.
Starting point is 00:36:05 So joyous, right, I forgot, a Christmas movie. Yes, watch it every year. Gather the family around to watch this film. Really testing my theory that any movie with Christmas in it is a Christmas movie. This one is a tough sell as a Christmas movie, but it is Christmas Eve and she is overdue. And so they're scheduling her to come in the next morning to induce.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Christmas morning. Christmas morning. Wow. I mean, I guess they would have to do that. Babies get born on Christmas. Obviously. Obviously. Henley and Jesus Christ. They only do. Obviously. Henley and Jesus Christ. Only two. Henley and Jesus. So she finishes up with the doctor
Starting point is 00:36:49 and goes out into the waiting room to wait for her mom to pick her up. And while she is in the waiting room, one of the nurses comes and sits next to her, lights up a cigarette and starts talking to her about how horrible her first birth experience was. She's saying, you know, I've had four kids, but the first one was the worst, the most miserable like 13 hours of my life. It's going to be really, really horrible.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Really, really crazy bedside manner for a nurse. I also, I want to amend the trigger warning too, where it's anyone who's pregnant or like wants to be pregnant like anytime soon. I said that, I said that. Yeah, oh she said that. Oh you did that, okay, okay, okay. All right, great.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Probably we can expand it to include anybody who likes keeping their body just all together as it ought to be. I think we've said a lot of things that if people feel nervous, they'll know to turn it off. Yeah. So her mom arrives to pick her up. They're walking to the car, I think. And her mom makes a comment like, I'm glad you're not working right now anyways, because of the riots that are happening. We find out that Sarah is a photographer for a newspaper
Starting point is 00:38:07 and so she photographs current events happening. And so there are some riots happening that seem dangerous. And Sarah is being really mean to her mom. Her mom's like really being so nice to her, just Obviously, she's so traumatized and has been through the most horrible couple months. Sarah just cannot accept the kindness and is just constantly being like, don't touch me, don't talk to me. She's like, I want to stay alone tonight. I need to be alone. I don't want you there. And she mentions that the mom asks, am I going to meet your boyfriend?
Starting point is 00:38:53 And she says, he's not my boyfriend, mom, he's my boss. Kind of an interesting sentence. Especially when the mom has seemed nice, like why would she get that confused? It's also like, my husband died four months ago. I'm nine months pregnant. Even if I had a boyfriend, would this be the time to talk about it?
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah. Put a pin in that one, perhaps. I'm gonna give birth to my dead husband's child tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be it. Is she? Oh wait, I figured it out. I had to figure out a mental trick. Obviously, this baby is Hitler or any other deeply violent authoritarianism.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And so is this woman. Yes, and the woman is... They're both Hitler. They're both Hitler. Yeah, exactly. So... Yes. So, thank fucking God. Yes. So think fucking God.
Starting point is 00:39:46 We can all rest easy now. And so was her husband. And so he's out of the picture. Oh, who gives a shit about her husband? He's gone. One down, two Hitlers to go. We see Sarah telling her mom to go home because she wants to be alone.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Her mom looks hurt by this. clearly trying to be there for her, not knowing when to push, when to let go. Looks like the mom is really struggling as well and trying her best. So she lets her go. She gives her space. Sarah walks to a nearby park and it has her camera with her. She's a photographer, and she's taking photos of this young happy family, husband and wife playing with their toddler, and she's just snapping photos of
Starting point is 00:40:34 them looking so sad. A man comes and sits directly next to her talking on the phone, and as he's talking on the phone, he stands up and he's pacing back and forth in front of her camera. You can clearly see that she's taking photos and she's just walking in front of it. And then he ends the phone call and sits back down next to her. And we find out that this is the boyfriend slash boss,
Starting point is 00:41:00 Jean Pierre, who is having a hard time with the other photographers that work at the newspaper or whatever. He's basically saying nobody's up to the task and this is a big news story happening these riots. Yeah, so he's frustrated with work, but he does seem, aside from all the things I just described that were rude, he does seem like genuinely pretty nice to her. He's checking in on her like, is there anything I can do for you? What do you need from me? And is he her boyfriend? Is that the vibe we're getting? Yeah, that's my question too. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think they're hooking up, I think is what's happening.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I don't know if he's, they're intimate. They seem intimate. She gives him the keys to her apartment and says, I need a ride at 6 a.m. to the hospital for being induced. And so he says, okay, I'll cut my Christmas Eve plans short tonight then. Are you sure you don't want to come with me to the thing that I'm going to? And she's again says, no, I want to be alone tonight. So she goes back to her house. Her house number is 666. Oh, no. Hitler.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And she walks inside. She has a very cute black cat. We're not worried about that. No. That's gonna be fine. And she gets a call. Is the cat pregnant? Can't quite tell, but probably yes.
Starting point is 00:42:38 She gets a call from her mom who she, again, is very short with her and tells her, no, I don't want you to come tomorrow. I'll see you on Monday. So she's telling her not to come to the, to the hospital when she is induced. And then she goes into a room that's just filled with photos of her and her dead husband looking happy and smiling. And she imagines him there with her. There's like his hands coming into the frame and like touching her belly and... I hate that.
Starting point is 00:43:10 It's really, really devastating. Oh, God. And then she goes into her living room and she's doing some knitting. And falls asleep while she's knitting and then starts, like chokes awake and starts choking and sputtering and spits out all this milky liquid and collapses on the ground and is kind of convulsing and her mouth opens really wide and we see something coming out and the baby's head comes out of her mouth
Starting point is 00:43:49 and she wakes up and of course it was just a dream. Really bad dream. Really bad dream. Really bad. No, no. And then the doorbell rings and this is nighttime, not super late, but not visiting hours, you'd think.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And it's a woman's voice on the other side of the door. She looks through the peephole, but the woman is standing too close that she can't see any distinguishing features other than her kind of silhouette. And she says, can I come in and use your phone? My car broke down on the street. And Sarah says, no, I'm sorry, my husband is asleep. He works in the morning and woman says, please, like, I'll be quiet. I won't make much noise. I just really need to use your phone. And again, Sarah says, no, aren't there, there's other families in this building. You could try someone
Starting point is 00:44:53 else. And she says, nobody else has been answering. Please, please, it'll be really fast. And Sarah's getting irritated now and says, no, I said, no, my husband is asleep. The answer's no. And the woman says, your husband is in the sleep, Sarah. Your husband's dead. Now you really can't let her into your apartment. Uh, obviously, Sarah is very shocked by this
Starting point is 00:45:22 and says, what? What? Who are you? She says, open the door and you'll find out. And she says, I'm calling the police. And then the woman walks away. Sarah's obviously extremely freaked, is walking around her apartment. She peeks through the curtain in the kitchen to try to see if the woman has left, but doesn't see anything. And she has not called the police. No, but she does have a phone in her hand.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Okay. But she's going around the house checking and arrives in this room with a big sliding glass door and the woman is standing on the other side. And so you get, but again, you just see the silhouette. It's very creepy. Wait, like on a balcony? No, it seems like ground floor.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Oh, I see. Okay, I see. And it's dark and I think a little rainy. And so you just see the silhouette of this woman and she lights up a cigarette. So her face is like briefly illuminated by the flame of the cigarette or the, of the lighter, but you don't, can't really make out who it is. Sarah dials 911 as she's got eyes on her and she's yelling at her like, what do you get out of here? I'm calling the police. Calls 911. The woman punches the glass door,
Starting point is 00:47:01 cracks it, and then just watches her for a bit. Sarah grabs her camera and is taking photos with the flash on. But the woman seems completely not stressed at all about any of this, and she's just very calmly smoking her cigarette, watching Sarah until eventually she walks away. Then we see Sarah developing the photos from her camera roll and they're really, you can't really make out a clear face in it. It's slightly, you can see that it's a woman, but it's super shadowy and so it's not... So she's, it's like the same night. She has like a photo developing- Yeah. In- Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:48 In her- Yes, a little dark room, I guess. Okay. And then she notices this same woman in her photo from the park earlier in the corner across the park. No. And then at that moment, the doorbell rings again. Did she call the police? Yes. Okay. Yes. And so she looks through the people and this is the police now. So she opens the door for them. Dang. All right. And she tells them what happened. This woman came to my door. She knows things about me that she shouldn't know. I don't know who it is. I'm really freaked out. I took this photo and shows them the photo. They are kind of like, oh yeah, it's not going to really do much to have that photo. But
Starting point is 00:48:41 we've alerted all the officers on duty in this area and they'll come throughout the night and check on you and just like let obviously call us if you see her again and we'll come back. So they leave and they like lock all the doors with her and close shutters. They're like, let's lock you in for the night and we'll check on you later. So they leave her and she goes back to her knitting. She's watching the news. It's like a close-up on her with her cat in her lap watching the news. And then as the camera pulls out, you see the woman just like right behind her in this doorway that when it was a close-up shot it looks like it's just an empty doorway, but the woman is wearing all black and so it's just looks like us.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And so this shot is just like a floating, floating head. Oh, that's so scary. Very scary. And Sarah turns off the TV, gets up and goes to the bathroom, takes some pills, and then gets into bed. And we get another shot of this CGI baby in her belly also going to bed. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:50:08 It looks terrible. Baby Hitler, fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck this baby. Fuck this baby. Sleep well, bitch. Bitch. It was your last night.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Couldn't give a less of a shit about you. So then we see that she has fallen asleep, it's an hour later or something and reveal again pullback. The woman is just standing in the room with her looking at her. This woman is dressed like a ghost from the 1800s. She's in an all black dress with a corset. Just really spooky. And then she walks around the house for a bit. She goes into the baby's room and is like smelling all of the stuff in it.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And she finds some alcohol, like a disinfectant, grabs that and then finds a pair of scissors, grabs those and goes back into Sarah's room and slowly presses, like pulls up her nightgown to reveal her pregnant belly, uses the alcohol disinfectant wipe on it and then takes the scissors, drags them across the belly lightly first just to let us know. Just having fun.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Just having fun first. What's about to happen. Let's have a little pregame here. And then she presses one blade of the scissors into the belly button and applies force and stabs in, obviously immediately waking Sarah up. Sarah screams and we see from Sarah's point of view as she opens her eyes and the woman takes the scissors and slashes her across the face. Sarah's face, by the way, it's already
Starting point is 00:52:06 covered in scars from the car accident. She has a lot of facial scars anyways. Now she has this five inch gash across her cheeks and lips. It's like a cheek to chin. She's screaming trying to fight off this woman who's trying to stab her with these scissors. Sarah grabs a lamp and smashes it on the woman's head, giving her enough time to get out of the room. And she just runs and locks herself in the bathroom, which is just the closest next room. And it seems like it's got a sturdy door. And so the woman is, runs and is like trying to bash down the door, but it's pretty, pretty sturdy.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So we're feeling momentarily, got a wall between us. So that's good. I'm feeling deep relief right now. Extremely relieved, yeah. I'm not, I wanna kill these Hitlers. Get these Hitlers, old lady. I'm rooting for the spooky ghost.
Starting point is 00:53:16 This is when we get our first good look at the lady. She's now fully in the light. She's been very in the shadows up until now, and she's pretty hot, just interesting. That's a plot twist I wasn't expecting. Well, now I'm really rooting for her. Yeah, yeah. So we like her now.
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Starting point is 00:56:19 save $10 on your first purchase story worth.com slash to scary So Sarah's in the bathroom panicking and her water breaks that sucks. We see the woman going downstairs she's Bleeding from her head from where she's been hit with the lamp And so she's kind of using a towel pressing, applying pressure. And we don't, we've never seen this woman
Starting point is 00:56:47 other than in the photos of the park. When she was smoking, I thought it was gonna be the nurse from the... Yeah, that's what I thought too. But it's not this, we don't know this woman. We don't know this woman. Wait, is it like a old woman or a young woman? Well, she's older than Sarah.
Starting point is 00:57:01 She doesn't look significantly older to me, but the actress is, yeah, like 20 years older than Sarah. She doesn't look significantly older to me, but the actress is, yeah, like 20 years older than her. And she's just a babe. So it was hard to tell. It's hard to tell. Ageless, timeless, you know? Babes have no age. Yeah. Ghosts are timeless. Ghosts are timeless. So yeah. So she's downstairs, like tending to the wound on her head when the front door opens and
Starting point is 00:57:28 in walks Jean-Pierre with his set of keys. He says that he's on his way back from the Christmas Eve party he was at and just wanted to check on Sarah, but says, looks like her mom got here first. She told me her mom was maybe going to be spending the night. So he sees the woman and just assumes it's her mom that he has never met. That makes sense. Her mom whose head is bleeding and is wearing a corset, but sure. Sure. Yeah. And the woman obviously immediately buys into this bit. It's like, yeah, you know, a mother always knows what's best for her daughter.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And so I knew that I had to be here with her tonight. And like, what if she like immediately got pissed off? I'm young and hot. How dare you? Actually, I'm here to fucking kill her. I am not her mom. How old do you think I am? Like ageism.
Starting point is 00:58:28 My God. My God. A woman can only be a mom. I'm a murderer. Ay yi yi. So the woman invites him to stay for a drink and they sit down on the couch. We see Sarah upstairs in the bathroom with her ear pressed to the door. She can't tell. I don't think she can really hear what's happening, but she's maybe
Starting point is 00:58:52 has heard something and she's looking in the bathroom for a weapon. She finds one of those long hair pins, like hair chopstick type things. And she grabs that, so she has little, some semblance of a weapon. And then back downstairs, we see Jean-Pierre find the photo that Sarah had taken of the woman when she was at the sliding door. And I forgot to say this, but Sarah had called Jean-Pierre after the incident and basically said,
Starting point is 00:59:25 something weird happened tonight and I'm wondering if you could like help me enhance a photograph. Not like a panicked call, but like, I need help enhancing a photograph because something weird was going on. And so he sees the photo and he sees the woman and he's asking her about it and he's like, did she take this of you?
Starting point is 00:59:43 Like she was asked, she mentioned something on the phone and we see the woman, like, slowly pulling scissors out of her sleeve, like, she's about to have to kill him. When Sarah's actual mom walks in... Oh, no. Great. Okay. All right. And it's like the three Spider-Men meme, where everyone's pointing at it, being like,
Starting point is 01:00:08 who are you? Who are you? And Sarah's mom runs upstairs, is like, where's my daughter? What's going on? Runs up, opens the bathroom door, and Sarah stabs her through the neck with the hair pin. Oh. Yeah, really bad, really bad. And Jean-Pierre like runs up after them
Starting point is 01:00:37 and sees Sarah with her face slashed covered in blood, crying and her mom collapsed on the floor, and Jean-Pierre is in a moment of shock where he's just frozen, and then he gets stabbed through the knee from the back of his knee. Literally, why? Like, why?
Starting point is 01:01:03 And he collapses on the stairs while the woman pulls the scissors out and then stabs him right in the dick and like twists the scissors and then pulls them out and stabs him like a bunch of times in the face. Just like. Oh, oh, oh, oh my God. The music in this, by the way, is really unpleasant, but like very effectively unpleasant. It's not like music. It's like either mechanical sounds or rapid...
Starting point is 01:01:38 Dissonant techno, dissonant house music. Rapid beeping and like metal sounds. It's just like, oh, it's just an uncomfortable soundtrack, but really effective. And so Sarah runs back into the bathroom, closes the door, locks it again. And she's like, I have so much to live for now. Things have gotten really good in my life. Things have gotten really good in my life. Things have gotten really good in the last couple minutes, couple months. She starts streaming Love Island, smoking a cigarette.
Starting point is 01:02:12 She's like, fuck, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck, yeah. If I'm going down, I'm going down watching Love Island. Well, and she's in labor. Yeah, because once your water breaks, you are actively in labor. And she is, yeah, throughout pretty much the whole movie screaming in pain constantly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 That is this. I would just kill myself like this. There's literally, I would kill myself. So we see the woman carrying Jean-Pierre, dragging him down the stairs, presumably to get rid of his corpse, I guess. I don't know why she's worried about cleanup, but... Yeah, I mean, it's gotta be a pretty messy scene at this point. And he bursts back to life for momentarily, the face stabs were pretty shallow, to be
Starting point is 01:02:58 honest, and she grabs a pillow and presses it over his face and then like really stabs him in the face, like full presses the scissors full in. So now he's dead for real. God damn. Sarah has heard that she was dragging him downstairs and so kind of put together that she would have a moment. So she's like snuck out of the bathroom to try to get to her room.
Starting point is 01:03:23 So she can watch Love Island. So she can watch Love Island. So she can watch Love Island because her laptop is in there. And she makes a noise or something that alerts the woman that she's out of the bathroom. So the woman comes upstairs, Sarah runs back to the bathroom and it's like so close. And Sarah's almost got the door closed
Starting point is 01:03:44 and the woman grabs her hair through the door and is trying to pull her out. She's like pulling out chunks of her hair, Sarah screaming and then Sarah still has her hairpin thing and she's able to grab the woman's arm and like stab the hairpin through it. So the woman pulls her arm out, giving Sarah the chance to close and lock the door again. The woman falls to the ground looking really upset about just being stabbed. Every time she gets hurt, it's just, I think I noticed it because she has a very cool calm, like icy demeanor for most of the time. But then anytime she gets hurt, she really seems like it really hurts.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It just kind of struck me as funny. Oh my God, she can't take what she gives. She can't take what she gives. Like, you fucking loser. Isn't how this was supposed to go. I didn't want to get hurt. She's like, I hurt others, no one hurts me. I don't like this.
Starting point is 01:04:41 So she's sitting in the hallway outside of the bathroom and the cat walks up to her and she picks it up. Now Emily's pissed. Now Emily's fucking pissed. She picks it up and is petting it and she's like, oh, so sad. And the cat is giving her comfort and she's like, I know and my arm hurts so bad, isn't it so horrible? But then of course she grabs the cat by the neck and just snaps its neck and kills it. Okay, at least a quick death for the cat.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It was quick death, yeah. Then the woman, she's got her scissors still and she starts stabbing at the door as if she's trying to like stab a hole through it. It is breaking a little bit and so she's just keep stabbing at the door as if she's trying to stab a hole through it. It is breaking a little bit, and so she just keeps stabbing the same spot over and over trying to make a hole. Sarah smashes the bathroom mirror and gets a big chunk of shard of glass to wield as a weapon now, and she's yelling through the door. She says, why me? Why are
Starting point is 01:05:48 you doing this? And the woman says, I want one. And she says, you don't want that child, Sarah. I'll take care of him. Really, not what you like to hear. Also hardly seems the best way to go about it. Or even the easiest. This is not the path of least resistance, that is for sure. Is this I'm guessing this is an internal bathroom, like no no windows to the outside world. Yeah, damn it.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And just now I did an assessment in my brain of if all the rooms in my apartment have a window that leads to the outside world that I can fit through and the answer is yes. Oh, that's good. Me too. I think mine did too, yeah. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Great. Good, so many escape routes. I was just thinking to myself, right, a mirror. Always remember a mirror. They're not entrances. They're only escape routes. They're only exits. They're only exits.
Starting point is 01:06:42 You can go one direction through the windows only. Okay. No, that's such a good thing to remember though, is like the mirror thing also, you can just smash any glass like picture frame. Frame picture. Immediate weapon. This is why you need to put up art.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Hang art on your walls for protection. Cause some of these mirrors, like there's a mirror in here and it looks thick. I don't know if I could smash that, but a picture frame, I could smash that. I have a lamp right here. The base is glass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a weapon. That's a weapon.
Starting point is 01:07:11 In 0.2 seconds. That's a weapon. That's a weapon. Yeah, that's a weapon. I have a literal fire poker in my house. Thanks to Emily. Yes, you do. As you should. It's under my bed.
Starting point is 01:07:22 We have a tire iron and a big Megalodon tooth. Ooh, a Megalodon tooth. That is, that's a good one. So, yeah. Just don't, just don't make us use those, okay? We don't wanna use our Megalodon teeth on you. We will, we will if we have to. Don't make us.
Starting point is 01:07:42 So at this moment, we hear police sirens and a cop car pulls up in front of the house. Not sure why they were running their siren because they're just doing patrols. But there's three cops in the car and a perp, someone that they've picked up, a young guy. A perp. A perp in his 20 twenties that I think they caught doing graffiti or something like that, that they're on their way to take him to the station, but they're like, we're gonna just pop in
Starting point is 01:08:14 to check, make sure this lady's okay first. And so two of the cops go in while one of the cops and the criminal stay in the car. Oh, at least they got the guy who's doing graffiti. Is the third cop in the backseat with the perp? Yes. That's really silly. It's really silly.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So the woman hears them coming and she grabs like a bookcase and slides it under the bathroom door handle. It's like perfect height so that now she can't get out of the bathroom and she's like runs to go clean herself up, watch like get blood off of herself and then answers the door when they knock on the door and she just opens it a little bit and she looks pretty normal. She's cleaned up nicely.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Again, she's pretty normal. She's cleaned up nicely. Again, she's pretty hot. It goes a long way in this world. It does. Sarah, of course, has heard her go downstairs, has tried to open the bathroom door, figured out that it's blocked. She's now using her shard of mirror glass to widen the hole that has already been stabbed in it with the scissors to try to be able to reach out of the door to open it from the outside. She's not screaming though? Not as much as she should be, no, but she is like, it's noisy.
Starting point is 01:09:44 She's the stabbing. She doesn't know the police are there. She just assumes she can maybe. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe I don't. I think she might not know. Fair enough. And so we see the woman talking to the police and they are, you know, checking, are you okay? She says, yeah, it's been a couple hours and no one's come back. I think it's fine. And they hear the banging, like loud noise and say, oh, what's that? What's that noise? And she says, oh, it's my old dryer. It's like a one of the old models. It's always really
Starting point is 01:10:17 noisy. And they're like, oh, yeah, totally get it. We don't need to check that out. Yeah, have a good night. And they leave. And so the woman closed the door, walks back upstairs, sees that Sarah has gotten a hole big enough for her arm to go through and she, her arm is out reaching for the door handle. Oh, Emily, I'm sorry. And the woman grabs her arm, grabs her hand, and basically uses the scissors to stab through her hand into the wall, so like pinning her hand to the wall. Woo!
Starting point is 01:10:54 And now the woman's really screaming in pain and we see the police outside. I don't, again, I don't think they hear the scream. The sound doesn't travel well in this house, it seems, but they have a little hmm moment and they turn around and they knock on the door again. The woman goes back downstairs and says like, did you forget something?
Starting point is 01:11:23 And they say just one detail and they kind of push their way in. And we realized that they've put together that the woman who filed the report was clearly nine months pregnant and this woman is not. And so they are like, why aren't you pregnant? We need to talk to the pregnant lady. And so now they're hearing the screaming now that they're inside. And so they're like, watch her. So they split up. One of them is watching the woman while the other one runs upstairs. Now gun drawn sees the Sarah's hand with scissors in it pinned to the wall. It's like, oh my God. And they're seeing, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:05 the other bodies and blood and they're not calling for backup, which is a little silly. But the one upstairs pulls the scissors out of Sarah's hands. Like, I've got you, like, we're coming to help you and opens the door. Sarah is just like drenched in blood and like just looking so bad. And he's like, it's gonna be okay, it's gonna be okay.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Trying to calm her down. And then he calls down to the other one, like arrest her, put cuffs on her. And before he can, she has one of the knitting needles. Yeah, I knew that was coming back. And she stabs it right into his eye. And oh, I kind of fucked that up. So the timing works out so that that happens as the cop is getting the door open to the
Starting point is 01:13:03 bathroom where Sarah is. And so she like has this moment of relief where she's just like, Oh, thank God. And he sees the carnage in the bathroom. There's just like blood splatters everywhere. And he just says, Oh my God. And at that moment is shot in the head, his head explodes, brains fly onto Sarah and we see that the woman has taken the other cop's gun and so Sarah has to lock herself in the bathroom again. So two of the cops are dead, but the cop in the car with the perp has heard the gunshots. Oh, there's more gunshots because the woman uses the gun to try to shoot down the door now.
Starting point is 01:13:52 She's shooting at the like door handle. And so the other cop's like, I gotta go in there and you gotta come with me to the perp, which is insane. And so he cuffs the perp to himself, I think. No, the body count in this is too high. It's crazy. So this can't be what they taught you to do. This cannot be protocol. This is not correct. So they like burst in as the woman has successfully shot down the bathroom door.
Starting point is 01:14:25 So now this door is, this bathroom is no longer a little safe place. It's not a safe space, but she hears the cops coming in and kind of disappears. We just see her walk away out of frame and the cops come into the bathroom. They find Sarah and she's still just like clutching her shard of glass and with a cop like gently takes it out of her hand and we see that her hands are just like sliced open from holding the, and he starts bandaging her hands and he's like, it's going to be okay. We got it.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Doesn't call anyone. Doesn't call anybody. Doesn't call a single person. Doesn't say like, where's the person who did this? Nope. Just another day in life walking into an apartment filled with several bodies, blood everywhere. Nope. They say they like bandit trans and then say, we'll be right back.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Thank you. Do you want any KFC? Sure. Here, actually, let's hand-cuff you to us too. Let's all go. We'll do a little hand-hold line down the stairs. That'll be the most efficient, smartest way to do this. But they like, scan the house,
Starting point is 01:15:38 so they go and check all their rooms, and it seems like nobody else is there. Most of your partners are dead. Yeah, I know. They're like, let's hang out. So they go and check all their rooms and it seems like nobody else is there. Most of your partners are dead. Yeah, I know. They're like, let's hang out here longer though. It feels good in here.
Starting point is 01:15:52 I got a good energy being here. Let's stay. Let's stay for a bit. I hear Sabrina Carpenter has a Netflix special we should watch. Do you have Netflix? It is Christmas after all. Please say you have Netflix. Do you leave any cookies for Santa? I'm pretty Please say you have Netflix. Do you live in a cookie for Santa?
Starting point is 01:16:06 I'm pretty hungry. Where's your TV? Turn it on. You can have a little cookie if you had. I don't want to put you out. Let's get to know each other. They come back into the bathroom and she's almost catatonic. She's shaking and can't speak, covered in blood. And he's trying
Starting point is 01:16:26 to calm her down and like, it's gonna be okay. It's good. Using precious time where he should be calling back up to just soothe her, which is nice, I guess, but not the top priority at this moment. In the end times, all we have is each other. So that's true. I get it. So they're about to, I don't know, get up and hopefully watch some Sabrina Carpenter. When the power goes off and it gets pitch black and this is so stupid. He's like, where's your circuit breaker? And she's like, oh, it's downstairs. And he's like, I'll go turn the power back on. Leave, what? And here's a gun for while I'm gone.
Starting point is 01:17:12 So he gives her a gun. He has a riot gun that's like, I assume like kind of a bean bag type gun that he takes. And he leaves her with a handgun. This is insane. Again, just who trained these cops? Is these, can't be protocol. This just cannot be protocol.
Starting point is 01:17:36 It's almost like they're already in the apocalypse. And like it's desolate out there and there's no help to be found and all they have is each other. These guys just said they were cops. And then we're like, and they were like, I guess, yeah, let's pile in the car. We're the cops now.
Starting point is 01:17:50 So, Sarah has the gun. She stands up and like very shakily walks into her bedroom and lies down on the bed with her gun. And we see the cop in the perp downstairs in the dark with a flashlight finding the circuit breaker box and we're seeing somebody else in the room with them. It's so unnecessary. Why do you need to stay? Just get out of the house. Why can't you bring her to the hospital? Bring her to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:18:21 That is all- Bring her to the hospital. Yeah, there's also, this woman is actively in labor, calling ambulance right now. But you guys, that Sabrina Carpenter special. Oh my God. I know, it's so good. It's not going to work if there's not power. Who can blame them?
Starting point is 01:18:37 I get it. So the woman kind of pops out of the shadows. It's hard to see where she is, but then she appears like right behind them, grabs the riot gun and shoots the cop directly in the face with it. And we hear two shots, it like cuts to Sarah upstairs in her room, hearing two shots and not knowing what happened.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Sarah, you get out of the house. Like, I know you're freaking out, but get off the bed, get out of the house. Yeah. She's almost seems like she's passing out. I mean, I guess, yeah, sure. That checks out. But, so now the perp is handcuffed to a dead guy and is completely panicking.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Him the whole time, rightfully, has been like, what? Like, no, I don't want to go in with you. Like, what the fuck is going on? I don't know. Like, I shouldn't be here. What the fuck? Uncuff me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And so yeah, now he's handcuffed to the dead cop and he sees the woman come out of the shadows and she pulls out her scissors and stabs him through the top of the skull. It's like a, it's a really quite sad death scene for him where it's this very emotional music is playing now when it's been basically all like fire alarm sounding music. And he reaches up to his head looking very dazed and pulls out the scissors. And it's like, obviously he's been stabbed in the brain. And so he's like looking for her and she's right in front of him, but he can't see her and he's just blindly swinging the scissors, but he's dying. And she's just watching him smoke,
Starting point is 01:20:33 she's smoking a cigarette and just like, lets him fall over and die. And it's pretty upsetting. Whew. Upstairs, it does seem that Sarah has fallen asleep. I think she's passed out. And the woman comes upstairs. I was just talking about this with somebody about,
Starting point is 01:20:53 like the thing that happened to me when I was getting my stupid eye dealt with, that like your body's response to pass out, does seem like a really bad idea. Yeah. Like, you should, if you think I'm dying, do the opposite. Like jolt me awake. It should feel like, I know it's about like shutting things down.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Like I don't know, but it's just like, I don't want to be passing out right now. Yeah. I think for animals, it's like playing dead. It's like forcing you to play dead is like maybe the best option. So it's like- Yeah, our like bodily instincts are not tied to psychopathic murderers.
Starting point is 01:21:39 No, but I agree. And I've told you guys how I watched that free diving documentary, The Deepest Breath, where people, for some reason, just dive really deep down in the ocean on a single breath, and it's a very dangerous sport, and most people that die doing it die right below the surface because they pass out before they can get to the top
Starting point is 01:22:07 because your body you pass out before you die. And so because your body's I guess, yeah, like trying to shut things down, but it's like if you pass out underwater, you're fucked. Unless you have a safety diver there with you. Anyways, so. Okay, okay. So the woman now walks up into the room.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Now she gets on top of Sarah and it's almost sexual. She's like rubbing her belly, but then kind of kissing her too. And she's got her face on her face. It's a silhouette. It's like you can't really see if she's kissing her or not, but it's like very intimate. And then turns out Sarah is not passed out and she bites the woman's face, either her tongue if she was kissing her or just like her lips, she like pulls a chunk of something off. Okay. And she has the... I feel like she has a gun, but it never comes into play again for some reason.
Starting point is 01:23:15 So I guess she didn't... I guess she forgot about it. Opposite of Chekhov's gun. They were like, fuck norms. Yeah. No, we only want knitting needles and scissors in this movie. And so she runs out of the room, Sarah runs out of the room and runs to the front door, which now won't open for some reason.
Starting point is 01:23:39 She's like panicking, trying to open the front door. It's seemingly jammed. She sees the dead cop on the floor, grabs the knitting needle from his neck because she had stabbed him a bunch of times with it, and so pulls that out and the woman is already downstairs before she is ready for it. The woman just punches her, knocks her down, and then just starts kicking her and punching her. And so Sarah drops the knitting needle and she is stumbling into the kitchen
Starting point is 01:24:19 and eventually grabs a knife and at first is wielding the knife towards the woman like to protect herself and the woman is still coming closer and then she turns the knife onto her belly and then the woman stops and they're frozen in this moment of like, don't come near me or I'll kill the baby that you very clearly want. And then the woman grabs a toaster by the like power cord and just smacks Sarah over the head with it. Sarah drops the knife and something is Sarah starts choking, I think like on blood. There's so much blood in her, from her facial wound and her head is bleeding, she's just drenched in blood.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And so she's choking and can't breathe. And the woman is just watching her choking and squats down and she always has a cigarette. And so she always has a cigarette and so she like pulls out a cigarette as she's watching Sarah. Struggling for breath and then Sarah sees. Like an aerosol can either like cooking oil or some cleaning spray or something and so right as the woman goes to light her cigarette Sarah sprays this spray at the lighter, causing a flame thrower, absolutely scorching this woman's face. She runs out of the room, screaming on fire,
Starting point is 01:25:55 and we see Sarah still can't breathe. She's just choking, can't breathe. Sarah finds the knitting needle again, gives herself a fucking tracheotomy. So gnarly. Would anybody do that? I feel like unless you had medical training, I guess maybe you'd try.
Starting point is 01:26:20 If you were like choking, would you give yourself a tracheotomy? I think I would just die. I think I would just die. I think I would just die. I have no idea how I would react in any extreme situation. I have no idea. Because it's also like, even if I tried to give myself a tracheotomy, like how do you not accidentally just stab yourself in the neck and die from that?
Starting point is 01:26:38 Yeah. Exactly. Like where are you even supposed to do it? Like here? Like right there? In that soft spot? Oh, I don't know. It feels like instinctual to do it here, but I don't know if even know if that's the right thing.
Starting point is 01:26:47 I think that is right. But it's, yeah. They're like at what angle, you know? And it's like, no, I just die. I think I would just die. Even though I understand the thinking being like, well, if I'm going to probably die from choking, I could attempt to clear my airway, but yeah, just really, really was shocked by this. I've, I don't think I could do it. And I hope I never find out. Oh yeah, that's not, that's not across that one. But this is where she gets her kind of that moment I love where she's like pulling herself together. She's getting her, she's giving herself
Starting point is 01:27:26 a tracheotomy, she grabs some duct tape, she duct tapes her neck, she grabs that knife. Ooh, it's gonna fucking suck to take that duct tape off. Ah! She grabs a knife and then there's like a metal table leg or something that she finds that she stabs the knife into a cabinet and then as it's kind of like jutting out from the cabinet, the back end of the knife, she jams this table
Starting point is 01:27:53 leg onto the back end of the knife so that it goes inside of the table leg and makes this kind of like spear thing. And then the table leg is extendable. And so I don't know what it was and why it was just lying there, but it makes a pretty sick ass weapon. And so now she has this cool spear. She's gearing up for the fight of her life. She's going to kill this lady and she's grabbed her camera and she's, cause it's still dark in the house. And so she's using the camera flash to light her way. And eventually she finds the woman is like
Starting point is 01:28:36 collapsed in a corner somewhere. Her face is severely burned and- She was so hot too. She was so hot too. She was so hot. And Sarah raises the weapon about to stab and the woman says, you can't kill me again, Sarah. You already did once. And we get a flashback to the car accident and see that the woman was in the other car, also pregnant, and her baby did not survive. And she basically is saying like you took... Wait, but isn't she 20 years older? Or you said the actress is 20 years older.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I would guess they're supposed to be like 20 and 40. So it's not like an impossible for her to. Okay. But there is kind of a... That's surprising. Yeah. I thought it was like an older woman. I mean, like I said, it's hard to say how old she is. Right, it's hot.
Starting point is 01:29:39 And if you're hot, you can do anything. So, but it does seem like regardless, she would have been an older mom. And so she's saying like, I can't do anything. But it does seem like regardless, she would have been an older mom. And so she's saying like, I can't, it was like really hard to, I had finally conceived and yeah, basically I'm not gonna be able to do it again. Well, then I think everything she's done is very reasonable. This is such a, this is such a, God.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I wish that a woman had been involved in the writing or the directing because... Or a woman who had given birth. Because it's like... This is so unreasonable. This would never happen. Yeah. And thank God. And thank God. Thank God. And thank God.
Starting point is 01:30:22 But it's such a... I think the reason why it pisses me off is because it's like a male interpretation of how a woman would respond to trauma. It's like, this is how a man would respond. A woman would never... I don't know. Some women, I know.
Starting point is 01:30:36 I don't know. Very few, statistically. I just really don't think this is not likely. I think becoming pregnant, at least in my experience, is not true for everyone. It has made me, like, way more empathetic than I was before. Like, way more empathetic. And way more like, I feel like the distance between myself
Starting point is 01:30:58 and other people's experiences has been thinned to a way that is like... just really different than what it was like before. And so it kind of pisses me off. Like, it just makes me mad, because it's like the wrong portrayal of what it's like to be pregnant. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that it's...
Starting point is 01:31:22 Yeah, it's supposed to be realistic. Well, and I think they're like presenting her as a psychopath. It's not like she's like just a normal woman that went insane. She could have been a psychopath before she got pregnant. Yeah. Also, you know, there are plenty of people on this earth who have gotten pregnant and had children
Starting point is 01:31:39 and like go on to not like this, but ruin people's lives and have no empathy at all. But I hear your point. I just, I don't know. Look, this wouldn't happen and we're so glad. We're so glad. Everybody's Hitler. Everybody's Hitler.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Also, if I'm Sarah, I'm still a fucking stabbing you. Like what? Yeah. Does she wait? Does she pause? Like no, drive that knife down. She looks very confused and she says, they told me that no one survived. And that seems like a big miscommunication. Yeah, that's pretty easy to know how many people died. So they lied to her?
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yeah, I don't know. And she's just like shaken and confused by this moment. And so yeah, she's like momentarily pausing. And then the lights come back on and she turns and looks and we see the cop that had been shot in the face, like turning the flipping the circuit breaker. And he looks like a zombie, essentially. And this is just such a strange part of the movie. Well, now he has a dead man handcuffed to him. Yes. So I guess he also has the keys to the handcuffs.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Yeah. But then he turns and his face looks like, like he's been shot in the face, I guess, like, but with, but with the riot gun. So it's like, his face is just in, like caved in kind of. Yuck. And he turns to Sarah and charges at her and attacks her. And this is done very much like he's a zombie. he turns to Sarah and charges at her and attacks her.
Starting point is 01:33:29 And this is done very much like he's a zombie. It's very bizarre. Everything else has been like very grounded in reality. And this feels like all of a sudden, rec, like it's just like a zombie movie. And I did some like browsing on Reddit to see people's interpretations. I think it's either just a very bizarre creative decision to throw in a zombie in with a non-lethal weapon, it could have just like pressed, it blinded him and like pressed something into his brain
Starting point is 01:34:14 that would have just like made him essentially, I don't know, like almost rabid. Right. No, that kind of makes sense. So I don't know. It doesn't ever- I know so little, we know so little about the brain. Yeah. We don't kind of makes sense. So I don't know. It doesn't ever... I know so little. We know so little about the brain. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:27 We don't know how it works. Yeah. So he attacks Sarah, which also kind of makes sense if he's blind and he's attacking someone. He's been shot in the face by someone that was attacking him. And so he might, he just doesn't know who he's attacking. Anyways, a very weird scene. If he's been blinded, how did he flip the circuit breaker? Whatever, who cares? Yeah, I don't know. But then the woman steps in, grabs Sarah's, oh, he like, he pulls out his baton and he's like, beating her with with it and hits her in the belly too. It's horrible.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Jesus Christ. And so the woman steps in and kills him with the cool weapon that Sarah made. Sarah didn't even get to use it. A woman gets to use it. Unbelievable. And- That's really not fair. That's really not fair.
Starting point is 01:35:23 That's really upsetting. It's the most upsetting thing. And so she kills him and then we're almost done you guys, but it is going to get worse here. Okay. Okay. All right. So Sarah is now again kind of going in and out of consciousness. She's just been hit in the head and she's trying to crawl away and crawls up the stairs, a little bit up the stairs, and the woman catches up to her. Sarah's begging for her life now and says, I think the baby's coming, the baby's coming. And the woman switches into nurse mode and soothing her and saying, okay, it's okay,
Starting point is 01:36:13 just breathe, just breathe. And so they're on the staircase and the woman is between Sarah's legs like as if she's assisting the birth. And so Sarah's on her back with her legs open and the woman like, like soothing her and stroking her hair and being like, just like take deep breaths, take deep breaths. And then Sarah is screaming, having contractions and labor pain and she's screaming for her mom. It's very sad. And the woman is saying, I'm right here. I'm right here. Oh. And then Sarah is like pushing and pushing and nothing's happening. And she says, I think it, I think it's stuck. And so the woman is like, okay, shh, shh, shh, and grabs the scissors. And it's like slowly cuts off the nightgown that's just drenched in blood revealing this belly
Starting point is 01:37:31 and then stabs into the belly as the woman is screaming and screaming. And there's no music in this, it's just nonstop screams. And cuts four inches from up to her belly button. So four inches below her belly button up to her belly button. And then reaches, presses her hands in, and the camera pans down and we just see so much blood, like water falling down the stairs. Fades to black. And then we see in the living room, it's all very red lighting now. And the woman with her like burned disfigured head, it's like burnt off half of her hair. It's just like a very... She'd be in so much pain. Oh my God. I know.
Starting point is 01:38:28 And she's holding the baby. The baby's all wrapped up. We can't really see it. And she sits down in a rocking chair. There's very haunting music playing. It's like orchestral again for kind of the first time in a while. I feel like when the music is actually music, it's very noticeable. We get an overhead shot of Sarah's dead body. As we're seeing, it goes to her face and we're hearing the baby crying. And then we go back to the woman in the rocking chair holding the baby. And there's a pool of blood below the rocking chair. And she's just rocking back and forth with the baby. And that's the end of the movie. So I have.
Starting point is 01:39:38 An interesting theory. It wasn't my theory, I read it on Reddit, obviously, but there's a possibility that they're all It wasn't my theory, I read it on Reddit, obviously. But there's a possibility that they're all dead, that this is just like hell, that she died in the car accident. Because there's a zombie in it, the house is 666, and she says they told me no one survived the car accident. Meaning like, not even her, which I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:10 I just, the zombie thing really, really didn't gel for me in a way that I feel like I have to believe this other alternate explanation. I kind of wish it wasn't that. I know that that's fucked up, but it like would work. I think it would work better for me as just like a straightforward. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:32 You can just take that cold cop part out. Like he's dead. We don't need him to come back. Yeah. I guess my reaction is I'm just having like a really strong reaction to it being created by men. I think probably it was obviously made in 2007 where it felt like the rights to our bodies were enshrined
Starting point is 01:40:50 and wouldn't be threatened, but now it's a different time and that's not the case. And like, it's clear that women have only had rights to our bodies only in certain parts of the world for a short period of time in the long span of human history. And like, for too long, men have gotten a say over what happens to us. And I do not like a man exploiting that for a movie.
Starting point is 01:41:18 I just don't like it. It makes me mad. And like, it feels like to what end? To what end? To entertain? Like, it. It makes me mad. And like, it feels like to what end? To what end? To entertain? Like, it is not entertaining to me. I find it fucked up and wrong. And there's a very real threat to women who are pregnant. Like, women die all the time from pregnancy
Starting point is 01:41:40 because of poor health care, because people, like, are dismissive of women, they don't take them seriously. And so I just am so mad. It makes me really mad. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like this time in film was a pretty gross time in general. Not even just in horror. I mean like. 2007, yeah. Across the board, like a lot of things were just,
Starting point is 01:42:13 people got away with a lot of shit. Really exploitative, yeah. And yeah, I feel like going back and watching pretty much any movie from 2007, there's usually something that you're like, ooh, yeah, we were doing that in 2007. And not to say that, uh, that it's all like the same level of offensive as this, but like, I don't get as worked up about it just because I don't know, I feel like it's pretty normal for the time and again, not that that makes it okay. But I don't know, I guess, and also I'm just like
Starting point is 01:42:57 very desensitized to all this stuff and I feel like it could have been made by a woman and I feel like, I don't know, it just. Yeah, it's like maybe not the most nuanced portrayal of something like this, but there is a whole version of horror that continues to do, you know, include things like sexual violence
Starting point is 01:43:17 and things that are like, that should be absolutely handled with finer touch, but it's like, sometimes I feel like you get away with the genre of being like, the whole point is it's like, sometimes I feel like you get away with the genre of being like, the whole point is it's really fucked up. I'm just showing the most fucked up thing ever. And it's like, yeah, I would rather we found like a smarter, more thoughtful way to do that.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Like we can still make horror that just is, feels like it understands the gravity of what it's portraying. Right, I think it helps me actually, it's clarifying to me because I find myself in a position of having to explain why I like horror movies a lot. And because so many people I talk to are like, why do you do this?
Starting point is 01:43:57 And I often am like, horror is amazing at expressing feelings that we have as human beings that usually go unexpressed. Like, it's amazing at just like going like full force, extreme into grief or sadness or rage or whatever. Like, and that it can be a release, it can be cathartic, it can be intellectually stimulating, it can be cathartic, it can be intellectually stimulating, it can be, like, it's just, it opens up a perspective. And in that way, I love horror.
Starting point is 01:44:33 But then there are certain horror films that I'm like, this is not that. This is exploitative. It is... Like fucking Green Inferno, that I was just like, this is... You thought I wasno that I was just like, this is... You thought I was not going to bring up Elair on? Like you're having fun and it's so fun for you only because like you can't put yourself
Starting point is 01:44:59 in the position of the person that is experiencing it. And also it's like a real problem in the real world. of the person that is experiencing it. And also it's like a real problem in the real world. Like it's one thing if it's not a real problem in the real world, but like this is a real problem in the real world where like pregnant people do not get the health care that they need and like are often in pain or die because of it. And so it just fucking makes me mad and also abortion will soon be illegal probably in the United States. Yeah, I mean, it already is in a lot of parts of it. Yeah, I mean, you know, we could get we could get into, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:37 But I'm just going to come out and say. I was really worried this was going to be same. You had said this was like the most upsetting one we've ever done. I feel fine. Great. I didn't care for it. It's very bleak. It's bleak.
Starting point is 01:45:51 And I bet watching it was pretty bleak. I don't know why I thought that that third act was gonna come around and give me like a triumphant ending for Sarah. No, yeah. And that was silly of me to expect, but I did, especially when she was like gearing up for the fight, I was like, hell yeah, here we go.
Starting point is 01:46:09 And then it's just like- Quick come down. Also just the baby ending up in the hands of like a psychopath. It's also like giving me like, oh- Maybe they're all in hell though. Yeah. Maybe it's a little baby demon.
Starting point is 01:46:22 Also it's Hitler, so- I know, I know. I know. It's also, I feel like intentionally we don't ever see the baby that like proves that it's alive. Like the baby might not have lived. Like that's crazy. We hear it crying over Sarah's face.
Starting point is 01:46:38 So we're not like seeing it. Yeah. But anytime it's in the shot, it's silent and not moving. And what's that pool of blood around? Right. How would she have known how to get the baby out without damaging?
Starting point is 01:46:53 I don't think she's a medical professional. But I mean, it's certainly any which way you look at it, like a very bleak, bleak, bleak ending. Which is what I do, you guys know I like that a lot of the time. There are some bleaker endings that have stuck with me more and worse than this one. Yeah. Speak No Evil, worse for me.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Funny Games, worse for me. The Mist, I think my all time number one worst. I think that's the bleakest one we've ever fucking done. I missed that one. It's the bleakest thing we've ever fucking done. I'll never forget it. It's still fucking haunts me. So I guess that's just to show you like, wow,
Starting point is 01:47:38 look at what five years of gnarly shit can do for you. You can hear this and go like, I didn't enjoy it, but off to the next. Yeah. Yeah. It was a lot. I do have some trivia about Beatrice Dahl, who is the actress who plays the woman, just an interesting woman. OK. That is, I guess, kind of a controversial figure in France.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Or not controversial, but just like a weirdo and like makes headlines for weird shit a lot of times or... Okay. So she married someone in prison. I feel like we've talked about this before. You know how serial killers have like female admirers. Well, yeah, admirers. And so this wasn't a serial killer, but it was someone that was in prison for abusing, like assaulting his wife. And they were together
Starting point is 01:48:41 for like 12 years. And then I think he assaulted her and they got divorced. Sure. Yeah, which is kind of what you'd expect. But then she made headlines for on a talk show, talking about, you know how you tell fun stories from your past on a talk show, you're just like, let me tell you about this one time I did this crazy thing. So she used to work at a morgue, I guess. Oh no. And one time her and her friends at the morgue took LSD and ate a dead guy's ear. What?
Starting point is 01:49:21 She told that on a talk show? Yes, surely that's illegal. I would think like- Has to be illegal. I'm imagining Kelly Clarkson being like, tell me, being on the couch there. The ear, what does it taste like? Drew holding her hand, Drew Barrymore's being like, okay, we've all been there.
Starting point is 01:49:35 Yeah. Okay, so, okay. Pretty strange, just a strange, strange lady. And I was reading an interview with her. I mean, they had to find someone who would play this part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like she was in other like regressive films. I mean, this was very much a time in cinema where it was like, you know, irreversible and just, yeah, regressive cinema pushing boundaries for the sake of...
Starting point is 01:50:09 Yeah, and in just all the wrong ways for all the wrong reasons. Yeah, for the sake of getting a reaction. And, yeah, I don't know, I'll explore this more. It's not a thing I've thought about enough, surprisingly, but I think it's just a desensitization to it. It doesn't bother me that much. And in a way, I'm kind of glad that it exists. And I think it's like an artistic thing. Wait, wait, why? Why? Tell me. Like, what do you get from it?
Starting point is 01:50:47 It's not that I get something from it. Uh, I think it's just, I feel like it needs to, the boundaries need to be tested in horror, and it's like good to find where it's like, okay, that's too far. Like I'm glad that people are able to do what they wanna do in making movies. Climb every mountain, or to receive all of your rainbow till you find your dream. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:17 And I say it half-heartedly, not like fully defending it. I'm not like going to go to battle for this movie existing, but there's something about this type of horror movie that I've just grown like, yeah, desensitized to in a way that I'm like, I just appreciate it as part of horror history, I guess. as part of horror history, I guess. Mm-hmm. I totally get that. I completely get that.
Starting point is 01:51:51 I think I am in a weird, unique situation right now, psychologically, where I am like... Everything in my brain is starting to rearrange a little bit in terms of how I view our culture and our society. And... I think that I'm starting to see these threads that didn't used to bother me, but start to bother me now. And it's a much bigger conversation
Starting point is 01:52:17 that can't be addressed in this little wrap-up conversation. But it's coming up a lot in my life, like in terms of just realizing how infused our culture is with certain things that are like really violent or really just the opposite of what I think human nature is. And it's connected to, like, I was a political science major in college and I learned all about Locke and all these philosophers who are like entire constitution is based off of,
Starting point is 01:52:56 which is based on this idea that humans are violent towards each other. And like, you know, it's literally down to that level that my thinking is now like, that's wrong. Yeah. There were some fundamental mistakes that were made at a very foundational level. And that have seeped into every part of our culture that we're now very used to.
Starting point is 01:53:16 And I was very used to, but now I'm starting to be like, oh, wait, I don't feel used to that anymore. Now I'm starting to find problems with that. And I don't feel used to that anymore. Now I'm starting to find problems with that. And I don't, I don't know. It seems like a really good place for you to explore that. Certainly you're not gonna have to confront it week after week for the rest of our lives, obviously.
Starting point is 01:53:40 It's like a really, it's something I'm thinking about a lot. But it's not like an easy thing to talk about. So I don't know. Well, I will say this movie's French. So we need to do a little bit of diving into, I was sort of like, what's like reproductive healthcare like in France? Maybe it's probably better.
Starting point is 01:54:00 What's going on in France? It's definitely better. Is everything perfect where you live? Is everything good there? Cause I think if that's the case, France? It's definitely better. Is everything perfect where you live? It's definitely better. Is everything good there? Because I think if that's the case, then I have no problems. And also, I would like to move to there. Me too.
Starting point is 01:54:12 I don't think France has ever done anything wrong as a nation. No, I think it's all good. I'm pretty sure we're going to go through exactly what France went through like 300 years ago. Some guillotine. One was the French Revolution. We're gonna go through that really soon. Oh boy. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Oh boy. Well. It's gonna be so fun. One day at a time. I love you guys. One day at a time. I love you guys so much. I'll hear about it when I need to hear about it
Starting point is 01:54:44 just like the drones. Exactly. Until then, I'm certainly I'll hear about it when I need to hear about it, just like the drones. Exactly. Until then, I am certainly not gonna worry about it. Nope. You know, it's not for me to worry about in this moment. And so I won't. I'll just go get a straw and call it a year and I will see you next year.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yep. LifeStraw.com. LifeStraw.com. nothing else to worry about. Buy them now before they're sold out. Yeah, they're about to fly off the freaking shelves. Yeah. Oh boy. We did it, we made it through it.
Starting point is 01:55:15 We did it, we did it. We never have to do this one again. Nope. But there are other movies in the new French extremity that we'll probably have to do. I wanna do Frontiers, but we'll take a little break from. I don't know what that is, but I wanna break. I wanna break.
Starting point is 01:55:28 And I think this is our last episode of the year. We'll have a bonus episode. And we will have a bonus episode on our Patreon. That'll be really pleasant. Yes, we are doing a nice bonus episode. Watch along of hot frosties. So if you really need that, that'll be there for you like a warm hug from a cold snowman.
Starting point is 01:55:55 I wish we were doing it right now. I wish we were doing it right now. But yeah, Patreon, if you need it. If you need something else, if you need a palette cleanser from this. We love you guys. We love you. See you next freaking year. See you in 2025.
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