Too Scary; Didn't Watch - INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS (1978)

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

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Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those two scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to and I'm very excited for this week's episode. Maybe I wasn't the brave one this week. We'll see. We'll see. No one could know yet. No one could know yet. There's no way to know. It's absolutely no way to know. But if you want to know right now, Immediately you can't wait another second. There are timestamps in the show notes where you can jump straight to the recap.

Because first we're going to chat for a bit. Lots of scary stuff happening once again. So Emily and Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week? Well, the president has a standing army that's accountable to no one. That is the reality where we are right now. And it's really scary. It's really quite scary. Yes, I don't like it. So if you're not in the mood to like hear someone wax and weighing about our current situation, feel free to fast forward. But I just am like so consumed by what's going on in Minnesota right now and also just everywhere in this country. And I feel like we've crossed. a line, as I said a couple episodes ago, and that line continues to be crossed, and I'm ready to like fucking go.

That's the thing about crossing the line is, the line's behind us now. The line is way behind us. And so I guess there are like a few things that I want to say. The main one is don't give up hope. We're just at the beginning. Yeah. It's time to like find people out there who are inspiring you. I have been following all of these Minnesota moms on Instagram who are going outside in negative five degree weather with whistles, with, there's a viral image going around of a woman wearing like cupcake pans as armor.

Just getting outside protesting what's happening in their neighborhoods despite the fact that ICE is literally executing American citizens in broad daylight. We are watching video evidence of it happen. And then we're having the administration come out and fucking lie to our faces. And they're lying because they can. They're executing people because they can. Yeah. And unfortunately, this isn't an accident. You know, the big, beautiful bill that was passed gave so much fucking money to immigration.

And we're seeing the results of, you know, the big, beautiful bill that was passed gave so much fucking money to immigration. and we're seeing the results of basically like an armed forces that doesn't have enough crime to target. So when there isn't actually any crime, like what's going to happen? Innocent people are going to be killed. And it's fucking hard to watch. But all of us, you know, now is the time. Now is the time to.

If you haven't changed your mind yet, if you voted for this, like, It's time to change your mind, you know? It's time. And I guess, well, there's so many things. But one person who I've been following, who I think is like a very clear-headed, interesting perspective is an economist named Catherine Ann Edwards, who has a substack. And I found her on TikTok, but I deleted TikTok because, you know, it's Larry Ellison fully owns it now. and they're already censoring things. But Catherine Ann Edwards, she, so basically, immigration has been funded. There's $170 billion that has been allocated to immigration enforcement. And she breaks down exactly what that number means.

And she especially does it in comparison to other federal law enforcement. in comparison to state and local law enforcement, in comparison to pandemic relief, in comparison to how we fund children in this country. And once you just see it in context for what it is, I think that alone is striking and terrifying. Just to give you a sense of it, $170 billion is twice what we spend on all other law enforcement put together. in this country. So that's a lot of fucking money. Because we spend a lot on law enforcement kind of in general. Well, like half of 170 billion don't make me do the math. No one could do that off the top of their head. That's an undividable number. Indivisible, undividable. I don't care you say it. It's impossible to solve. And then there are also, you know, there's the executive

order that went out in September, basically claiming that domestic America against domestic terrorism, it's not a coincidence that they have been calling, this administration has been calling Renee Good and Alex Freddie domestic terrorists. They are doing everything they can to basically classify, label anyone who gets in their way as a domestic terrorist and trying to give themselves the justification to treat them however they want to, including just killing them in broad daylight. So, yeah, I'm not feeling great about things, but I am trying to remember that, again, every small thing counts. So find mutual aid organization in your area, find an ICE resistance training in your area. I'm going to put up a list of resources that I've collected.

onto our Instagram. Please feel free to DM other organizations or places you that are trusted that are really helping people on the ground. And yeah, it's time for all of us to just like fucking get involved. Yeah. So. Yeah. And I'll say like drop in the comments too if there's a place that that you want to boost.

Yes, for sure. Because it's so it's overwhelming and it's overwhelming by design. And so it's helpful just to help. someone, anyone that is doing something that you can help is better than not helping anyone. And so if people, yeah, have resources, it's always helpful to be like, okay, this is, this is the thing I can do, this is a person I can help.

And also, like, let's get off our phones. Let's be on our phones. Let's pay attention. And then it's like, put our phone down. And like, donate to an organization and then go for a walk. And get in those streets. Sign up for a training and then like take a shower. And like, you know, just yesterday I went for a walk. Take care of yourself.

I took a shower and I felt better than I have felt in so long. So sitting and spiraling and scrolling on your phone, yeah, it doesn't really help anything. And so, yes, it's important to find some amount of self-care and self-preservation to like keep your head screwed on straight so that you're of use to your community. Yeah. It's what has been helpful to me is to punctuate those doom scrolls with like an action. Like if I've been scrolling for an hour and looking at awful things, I'll be like, oh, here's an organization. found, great, let me click that link, let me like do a thing and then I, and then walk away for a bit because, yeah, it's a long, it's a long game. Yes. And one way to stay energized is to remember

that we have agency and the only way we're going to remember that is if we actually fucking do something. I made my homepage, the indivisible like branch near me so that every time I go on my computer, the first thing I see is like, oh, these are calls, these are things being organized. It's like little things like that where it's like, okay, these are actionable things I can do. And it's there on my computer every time I open up my browser. Actual things you can do. And also, like, people are doing things. It's really nice to see people doing things and to remind yourself that there is a community out there of people taking action that you can join and not be like, oh, my God, what am I supposed to do?

I'm just one fucking idiot on her couch. Don't talk about yourself like that. That's not nice or helpful. But you get the gist. Yeah. Yeah. People are 3D printing whistles.

Get creative with it. Get creative with it. There's so many things we can do. Woo! Yeah. So that's my main, that's my creed. That's my long-winded. Diatribe, but I'm done now.

I'll say this too. I'm getting back into movies. It's funny. I do a movie podcast, but like I haven't really had it in me to like take in meaningful works of art in like years. To feel feelings? Yeah, I haven't wanted to feel anything. And I've been watching movies lately that have been making me feel things and it has been wonderful and powerful and a beautiful outlet.

And it has, like, gotten me back into my feelings and into the world. And so just a reminder, too, that, like, art is available and better than doom scrolling. I needed to be reminded of that. And it has been helpful for me. So I have also been trying to watch movies, but I've been trying to watch the wrong ones. I, two nights in row, I've watched a terrible romantic something on Netflix. What was it? The first one I watched was my Oxford year.

Have you guys seen this movie? No. You have to watch just the first 15 minutes of it. It will shock you. It will shock you what's happening with this woman's hair. The protagonist, it is unconscionable what they've done to her. Okay. Incredible.

Yes. Okay. We'll be watching. I can't wait. She's a beautiful woman, but this hair, my God. Well, is it like a romance about how, like, this woman just couldn't get it together. Is he evidenced by her insane hair? Or is it like we think this hair looks really, really good?

I don't know what they were thinking, but someone, incredible. Someone needs to be held accountable. I can't believe. I can't believe. Googling, Googling. My Oxford Year, it's about, it's basically a wish fulfillment film until it turns into like the most devastating tragedy you've ever seen in your life.

Why do they do this to us? Why do they do this to us? I don't want this. I watch like this. 50 minutes of it. And then there's like a revelation that happens in the middle of the movie. And I was like, oh, okay. That's what this is about.

So then I had to pause the movie, Wikipedia, the rest of the plot summary. Two really fascinating last names in the cast of this movie. Travaldwin. Travolta is one last name. Travolta and Baldwin combo. And Milchrist. Milchreist. So that's just interesting upon first observation for me.

Yeah. No, this is about a woman. First of all, I thought that it was set in the 1980s, but then halfway through the movie also someone has an iPhone. And I was like, wait, what? Time period is this? She has a job like secured on Wall Street. She's going to work for Goldman Sachs. But she's taking, she's deferred a year to pursue her passion in Victorian poetry at Oxford. Can you defer a job a year? You can if you're going to study Victorian poetry at Oxford University for a year. Interesting. Interesting. Okay, what's the other one? The other one I watched was people I meet on vacation or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I haven't watched it yet, but read the book.

I really liked the book. I love the book. I really like the book. And that's all I need to say. Did you watch the movie? I did. Okay, so Emily's reserving comment. Because it's hard to make a movie and I appreciate the people who did the work.

It was certainly... I love the book. It was certainly better than my Oxford year. Well, that's a shame for my Oxford here. But it was, yeah. Tough. It, I didn't feel a spark, which is really what you need for any sort of romantic. Yeah.

So, yeah, I just didn't feel, I just didn't feel the spark. The lack of spark on screen is devastating to me. Can spark people? Give me spark. I'll let anything slide for spark. Give me some spark. Oh boy, oh boy. Sammy, how are you doing?

How are you doing, Sammy? Sam, just tell me. You know, are you doing really, really good. I'm doing so good. Yeah, somehow I've managed to just have the best week ever. I'm sure. Oh, my God, thank fun. No, no, I'm not doing well.

But I will just take us on a quick sidetrack distraction story, which, is that I found out this week that I have sleep apnea. Wow. Okay, I actually do want you to talk us through this journey because I think that Joel might have sleep apnea. I think that I probably have sleep apnea. How did you find out? Well, I did an at-home test, which is not the standard.

You're technically supposed to do a sleep study where you go in and people watch you sleep. But my God, who has the time? Who has the time and also like, I'm supposed to fall asleep in front of strangers and just trust that this like excuse me. Yeah, I mean, I could do it. But I'd be awake all night. I can sleep pretty much anywhere, which is a symptom of sleep apnea. Is it that maybe Joel doesn't have it because that man cannot fall asleep? I don't think it's a requirement of the of having sleep apnea.

My mom has it and she can't sleep ever. So. Yeah. But since living with Duncan, I found out that I snore quite a lot. lot, which was, you know, unknown to me. When you sleep alone, it's hard to know, yeah. And so he's been, he's been observing some of the little like, you know, when you have a little, like. Your body hasn't been breathing for like 45 seconds.

Your body all of a sudden feels like, oh my God. So, um, I was looking into some of the other symptoms of it. one is being tired all the time, which I know we all are. Everybody's tired all the time, right? It's really hard to discern the reason why one is tired all the time. Pateek is a symptom of literally everything, including just like living, existing in this, in this world, I think. I've been seeing a lot of things about like, X, Y, and Z is because you have high cortisol. And I'm like, don't we all, like, I don't understand. Like, what do you talk? What do you mean? I also got, as you guys know, I got pretty invested in my blood sugar levels as well, because

I was associating some mental health things with having. blood sugar drops. Anyways, we're not talking about that right now. The sleep apnea is the test that I did was just like a, obviously I did my Reddit research. And it seems a little bit on par with like, you know those, what is one of the ones that you can like get an at home test and they're kind of a little bit shady? What is one that you do? They do like your blood test to see what like depression medication.

you should take? Yes. Oh shit. Where they're like kind of. I don't think those work. I'm pretty sure those have been like disproven. What's the Elizabeth at Holmes one? Oh, the blood test there knows.

She's writing it out of prison with Galane Maxwell like next door. Feasting on our blood. Feasting. There'd be like weird tests that are kind of half scams with some useful information. Oh like at home allergy testing is one of one of them. Sure. And it's like I guess. I mean, we are desperate for information about our bodies and have no trust in the U.S.

healthcare system. So, like, yeah, I'll do, I'll be doing all of this on my own. Thank you very much. I mean, that's why we're using Reddit. I'm using Reddit. I will diagnose myself thinking with an online purchased kit. So I did, yeah, an at home thing where you wear a bracelet thing that's connected to a little pulse oxymeter that you put on your finger. a little one of those little patches that you put on your chest. So it's like measuring your pulse

and blood oxygen. And it has, I think, like a microphone thing in it that it can hear the decibels of your snoring. I tested severe, severe snoring, extremely loud snoring. Oh, no. Poor Duncan. Was Duncan like, thank you. Yes. But overall, this, it was mild sleep apnea. And I probably will go to the doctor and do a sleep study just to try to get insurance to cover some of the treatments for it because they're not cheap. But, God, I really don't want a CPAP machine. But that seems to be the kind of gold standard of treating sleep apnea. Yeah.

There's also mouthguards that you can use. But a lot of people on Reddit say the CPAP is superior. I will say that my mom, like my whole life, I think, had some. sleep apnea, we just thought she had bad insomnia. Since she got a CPAP machine, it's like changed her life. Yeah, I've heard that for a lot of people. So much better. And the CPAP's a game changer. She didn't want one because she's like, I can't sleep anyway. Now I have to sleep with this thing on my fucking face. But man, imagine like breathing while you sleep. Seems like really nice. Really makes a huge difference. Well, yeah, and then not being like woken up 20 times a night because you

stop breathing. Like panicking too. Yeah. It likes, I think it spikes your cortisol because your body's like, I don't want that. I'm not breathing.

It makes you feel panicked. Yeah. Continuous positive airway pressure machine. Yeah, just like keeps your airways open all night long. I kind of want one just for fun. Yeah.

I think you can purchase them. Wow. Yeah. Impressly produced snoring, increased energy, lower blood pressure. I don't think you need a prescription. I think you can just fucking

get one. Well, listeners, if you have sleep apnea, tell me what to do. And if you also, if you just, like, can you snore for other reasons? I think so. Right? Yes. I think you can. I think, help me figure this out without ever having to go to a doctor. Yeah. Listeners, we turn to you. Our friends, our doctors. We know there's at least one doctor listening who can send us some information. No, I probably will talk to my primary care doctor about it because I love her. Men have narrower airways than women. Wow.

So yeah, sleep apnea. Wow. That's what's going on with me. I'll keep you posted as I continue on this journey to try to not be so tired all the time. It might like genuinely really. I saw such a huge shift in my mom. And part of the like Q&A or like a test thing that it gave me beforehand was like how easy is it for you to fall asleep when you're reading a book or on the couch or on a plane or in a passenger seat of a car and all of them I'm like oh I fall asleep instantly in all all of those places immediately.

Is that not is that not normal? Interesting. So maybe it's not. Maybe it's not I don't I do love sleeping though So I We'll see

We'll see how good But yeah I mean if it is like you are You do sleep a lot But you're always tired So that does seem like perhaps Yeah This quality of sleep is

Not Yeah I'm getting like nine hours Good enough Yeah Folks not to brag But then also yeah It's like I'm still tired At the time

Yeah I thought it was my antidepressants For a while But I'm not Not sure. Also maybe, because I feel like you also have nightmares a lot. I wonder if that's also part of it. Your brain is like, I need oxygen.

I'm scared about my breathing. I don't know. It's true. All right. Well, speaking of scary things happening when you're sleeping. Oh. What are we doing? This week's movie is Invasion of the Body Snatchers,

the 1978 version. Great. I can't wait. I watched it. Wow. You guys seen it? You guys seen this movie? I don't think I have.

Is Jeff Goldblum in another one? He's in this one. Oh, he's in this one. Oh, great. Then maybe I have seen it. A very young Jeff Goldblum is in this. But it's been a long time, so I don't. I mean, I know the general concept.

You both probably know the general concept. Yeah, I think everybody kind of knows the general concept. But I had often heard, I have, I had, seen the 50s one in like school I think but I'd never seen the 78 one I know Joel really likes it I had long heard that it was like a really good it's like one of the best uh remakes it's thought of as being one of the best horror remakes and I've just always kind of been interested in watching it and so given that it was my week I decided to finally watch it um invasion of the body snatchers I did sit in the deep

was directed by Philip Kaufman, screenplay by W.D. Richter based on The Body Snatchers, 1955 novel by Jack Finney, starring Donald Sutherland, Brooke Adams, Leonard Nimoy, Jeff Goldblum and Veronica Cartwright. Fun cast.

Fabulous cast. Really of a time. Really of a time. Exactly of this time, in fact. And this time was December 1978. That's when this movie came out.

It is a 93% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 75 on Metacritic and a 7.4 on IMDB. So through the freaking roof. A plus plus. A plus plus. Budget of 3.5 million. That's adjusted, I believe. Box office of 24.9 million. Wow.

Pretty great. Pretty great. Well done. Well done. I have not a ton of trivia, some trivia. I'll go through as we are going through the movie itself. But I will say at one point. Donald Sutherland was, he was hit by a Volkswagen Beetle while filming a shot of Matthew and Elizabeth running. He fell onto the windshield and was able to see the driver saying, oh, God, not you.

Do you recognize that it's like not a celebrity? Fuck. I would have hit anyone but you. So that's pretty funny. That is a funny reaction to be like, oh, man, I could have gotten under the radar, but it's a celebrity. Damn, damn it. Not you. It's celebrity and on film.

And Veronica Cartwright recalled that it was Donald Sutherland's idea for his character to have curly hair. He does have really funny curly hair in this movie. Does he not have naturally curly hair? Not like this, I guess. It says he endured pink curlers morning and lunchtime before agreeing to undergo a time-saving perm. Is it necessary for the character? Is this a right choice? I mean, it is the right choice, but it's not intrinsic to the character development as far as I, you know, he's not like, the thing about me is my curls are. That is actually very crucial. It's so funny, Joel. I were really laughing about it about him being like, actually, I think the character needs a perm. Not me.

Not me, Donald Charlotte. I think actually it would look pretty bad. I wouldn't like it at all. It wouldn't make me feel cool. But the character, it really needs a perk. It is really funny curly hair And I did like it And I liked to see it

So good on him for that idea We are going to watch the trailer at the end Even though we all kind of probably do get the gist I still think we should watch it at the end So I'm just going to jump right in Great Let's do it Starting the year with a wardrobe refresh

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Perfect. We're looking at a, you know, classic kind of red planet situation, rocky. red there is a sort of smoke wafting through the air that it's like very tangible looking smoke

you know the smoke with a with you almost could reach out and grab it it then turns to we see the sort of soap bubbly there's the things

that are like a soap bubble meets one of those clear all the way see through jellyfish meets like a balloon animal. Oh, wow. Okay.

Like a, like a soap bubble made of gel. Combined with other bubbles in such a way as to have a form, but also still be light and airy. Wow. Okay. This is, this is not our aliens. This is not a xenomorph. Exactly. Exactly.

We're hearing the wind whirring. And we're also hearing sort of like science-seeing. sci-fi, like, whew-you- kind of like fuzzy. It sounds like science on Mars. You guys, it sounds like science.

The jelly bubbles float through the air. We're seeing them carried up off the wind. Suddenly we're in just the atmosphere of outer space where the galaxy they're floating through space. We see them pass by planet after planet. There goes Venus. There goes

Mars. Reverse that. There goes Mars. There goes Venus. We arrive to planet Earth. We see planet Earth from space. And then we're in the clouds. We're in a rainy San Francisco. Rain is falling in on the trees and all the plants we're seeing gel like, jellyfish-like, soap bubbly on all the leaves. On the trees, it's not quite just water droplets.

There's something else on these plants. And the rain is making them fall into the ground on the groundwater. water. We're seeing these bubbles go down little streams in the roads. Bubbles on plants, bubbles on leaves, bubbles on ground. The music is, whews, we zoom in on a leaf. We see a glob, a jelly-like glob in the center of the leaf. And from the glob starts shooting out in every direction, spider-like skinny, spindly root legs and they take

the effect is amazing. I do not know how they did this. Damn. Damn. Good for them. Good for them. And the root ruddy legs spread out and they take over the leaf and the glob in the center starts to form

into a little pod. It almost looks like a nasty dolma, you know? No, such thing is a nasty dolma. Exactly. I'm like, excuse me, wait, I don't understand. And then we see from the dolma a flower, a little flower blooming, a little pink flower. So we've got a little pod, a little pink flower. We sort of zoom out. We're in a park.

We see a woman walk by. She sees this flower. She picks it. She smells it right in her mouth. She goes out. She'll get a good lick. Tasting an alien. Classic.

Classic. And she, you know, she's interested in this little flower. She walks away with it. We see approaching the park. a school teacher with a group of children and was like, okay kids, yep, go pick flowers. They're all like, yay, you're going to pick flowers. And as they're picking the flowers on a swing set in the park,

we see a priest swinging on a swing set, ominously watching them, just swinging, swinging. That priest is Robert Duvall. Huh. Because he just happened to be there for the day. Shot the scene for free. Oh, in a priest's outfit? He was like, I brought my own.

I brought my own. We followed the woman home. She goes home to her apartment. Can I just ask, was this shot in San Francisco? on location, just wondering. I think it was. Just because, like, I miss those days, you know? I miss, like, when movies were actually shot in cities.

Yeah. I think it was. I'm not positive. And the tribute didn't tell me, which makes me think that it probably was. Shot where they say it was. Okay, cool. So the woman comes home. Her boyfriend's sitting in his freaking 1970s version of a lazy boy chair.

watching the sports game with headphones on. She makes a comment like, oh, Jeffrey, you couldn't pick up the mail off the floor. Like, we're not loving his vibe. She walks over to him, Jeffrey, Jeffrey, he can't hear. He's got his headphones in. He pulls her onto his lap, kisses her, and is making out with her.

And then he's like, oh, you know, reacting to the game. She's telling him about this flower she found. She's so excited. She's got a lot of plants on, like, a balcony in her apartment, like clearly loves plants. She's excited about this flower. She's like, I've never seen anything like it before.

I think it's a grafted species. I think, you know, it's two species came together to make something new. It's not in any of my books. I've never seen it before, isn't it? So beautiful.

She's trying to tell him about this plant. She's reading about plants in her books. He's trying to get her to have sex with him. And she's like, Jeffrey, Jeffrey, I'm reading. Stop. And he's like, fine, I'll put my headphones on.

Watch the game. Cut to Donald's Sutherland. We see him curly. hair you've ever seen, arriving at a restaurant and the very French manager opens the door. Oh, hello, Mr. Benel.

Oh, so glad to see you. Welcome. He works for the health department. We are not glad to see him, obviously. He goes into the kitchen. He's very no nonsense. He's wearing a trench coat. He's got a mustache.

He's very tall. He's walking through the kitchen. He looks into a pot on the stove. He says, this sauce and he says we cannot tell you meza vanel obviously it is secret recipe and he says you don't have any secrets from the Department of Health oh well is red wine and

a bistock and onions and I'm doing a really really I'm going to act for right now you guys feel like I'm in ratatooie right now it's a little ratatooie like and he pulls out some metal tweezers which trench pocket tweezes something from the pot pulls it out and he says

what's this? And he goes, oh, is it a cape bear? It's not a cape bear. Yes, it is. You're going to tell me what's in the sauce. It's a cape bear. And he says, it's a rat turd. Oh, my God. And he puts it in a little baggie. That's pretty egregious. It's a huge deal. That's a big health code violation. That's a boiling hot pot of stock and the turd is just hard as a rock sitting. I'm like,

excuse me what are what's anyway uh what an eye though you know this guy's just like the best health department inspector oh my god he is serious about his job i really thought he was gonna pull out one of his own hairs though what's this oh my god a big curly lock um and he goes out the back his car is parked out behind the restaurant there's a couple of chefs out there smoking he looks at his car and someone has thrown a wine bottle on his windshield his windshield is crack He gets in his car, turns the windshield wipers on, getting the glass out of there. Another day in the life of a health department worker, you know. He's hardened by now.

Yeah. We see him back at the office. It's nighttime. He is calling the same woman we saw earlier. This is Elizabeth. Brooke Adams, stunning. I just, just gorgeous. I love the look of her.

I'll have to Google her. Yeah. I was very, she's a face you want to look at. So she's in the right, she's in the right job. He calls her, she picks the phone. He's, you know, he tells her about his night. He's like, ah, I got a wine bottle thrown on my windshield. And she's like, oh, yeah, you know, seen it before.

He's cutting out articles from a newspaper. He's like a guy who likes to collect. Brooke Adams married to Tony Shalube. Sorry. You don't say. Wow. How about that? The world's a beautiful place.

about that. And he's asking her, can you come in early tomorrow and run this salmonella test? You know, got to get it in before, you know, if the lot's going to close at this time

and then we won't be able to get it in before this or this deadline. And she's like, no, I'm not coming in early. Like, I'm not, I'm absolutely not coming into work for 8 a.

m. And he's like, well, you know, I did nominate you for the servant of the year. And she's like, oh, they're like, it's very good nature

between the two of them. You know, she's a little bit like, you're ridiculous. I'm not coming in early. And he's like, come on, come on. It's like they, it's, they like each other a lot. Is it flirty or?

It's a bit flirt. A bit flirty. Okay. It's a bit flirty. So completely inappropriate. Well, it's completely inappropriate. And they're villains. They're the villains of this story.

We're a team Jeffrey. Obviously. No, it's very, but it's like, it's flirtatious, but of like, it's very companionable. Like, it's like there is a real fondness here. Okay. This is the kind of spark, we're looking for on screen. And I'm telling you, this is the kind of spark we're looking for.

Their chemistry is... So good. And so finally, she's like, fine, I'll be there at 7.30. And he's like, thank you so much. See, in the morning. She goes to bed. It's 11.30. I'm like, woman, you're going into work before 7.30.

It's 11.30. And now you needed to be in bed two hours. She's just got to get her nine hours. Oh, my God. She goes up to bed. Jeffrey is, has fallen asleep. She's put the flower that she found. Straps on her C-Pet.

Yep. Exactly. We see she's put the flower that she found in a cup of water and it's on Jeffrey's bedside table. She goes into bed. He's fast asleep. She kisses him on the cheek. Falls asleep. Alarm goes off at 6.45. Jeffrey is sweeping up shattered glass. So that glass that the flower was in on his bedside table has broken. He's sweeping it up. He's already dressed in a suit. He's ready for the day. She turns the alarm off. She's like, whoa, how long have you been up? You're up early. And he's being very strange. He's emotionless, very robotic, not really answering her questions. She's a little bit like, what's going on? He's like, oh, I've been up for hours. It's everything. It's fine. And he like gets up very slowly and takes the broken glass out of the room. And she's immediately like, the fuck is going on. Yeah. So she gets up

out of bed. Worth noting she is wearing a deep teal, teal, satin, high-necked, big billowy sleeves nightgown to the floor. Very dramatic. I can't imagine sleeping in this, but she looks incredible. I had no idea what word you were going to use next. All of those words I wasn't expecting. Teal, high-necked, billowy sleeves to the floor? It's satin.

It's a whole, it's absolutely stunning. She watches from the window as he goes outside. He's got a trash can. She watches him pick up the little trash can, carry it outside. again walking like very slowly, robotically, just like looking straight ahead of him. He walks out to the street, a garbage truck arrives. He dumps the contents of the garbage can

in the back of the garbage truck. The back of the garbage truck is full of just like gray fluff. And he dumps his trash can in there. Also gray fluff. Huh. And the back of the garbage truck shuts and it drives away and he turns around and walks back inside.

I'm thinking it wasn't until later that I was like, like, oh, the gray fluff, that's like a thing. That's like, it's like a something to do with what's happening here. Like I was like, I just thought maybe that's like what people did in the 70s is they had to like bring their trash out. Like maybe that was like their like coal or something. I was like, I don't know what. I was like, it's their form of energy. It's all the asbestos. This wasn't just like a 70s thing. America runs on fluff. Also, I was thinking like, or is this just the art department like couldn't get it together to make like a realistic. Garbage. They were like,

I don't know. Just make it flip. It's like it's the texture of... It's kind of like a big dust bunny meets cotton candy but gray. Okay. You know, it's like... You get the sense that you could, like, pull it apart. It's like what comes out of your dryer. It's like dryer light.

It's like what comes out of your dryer if it was like kind of the shape and texture of cotton candy. Okay. Okay. Okay. And it's gray. Okay. Thank you. Should we keep talking about it?

A light gray, a dark gray. Dark gray. Okay. Dark gray. Oh, I was picturing light, so I'm glad you bought that up. Okay, well, that's actually really important to know that it's dark gray. Not black, but a dark charcoal. Great, could be confused with coal.

Sure. One could confuse it with coal. Yeah, yeah. And this being the coal truck, the regular morning. coal truck that came by everyone's house in 1978. We see her walking to the office, and as she's walking up to the building, we see people running in the opposite direction. She's kind of in her own world.

She doesn't really flag it, but it is, like, strange to see people like in like business clothes, not runners, like running the opposite direction. She's distracted. She had a really weird morning. She comes into work. She has not made it by 7.30. the day has already begun. Somebody else is already running the test.

She comes up to Matthew. She apologizes. She's like, I'm so sorry. I woke up on time, but Jeffrey was being really weird. And he says, oh, what was the mad dentist doing this time? And she was like, it just was he really wasn't acting like himself. And he said, well, dentists are crazy. He just does a lot of like dentists jabs about Jeffrey.

Sounds like me. And she says, yeah, but he was being different than normal. And he says, well, that can only be an improvement. But it's, again, it's like the banter is, we're having fun. It's lighthearted. It's lighthearted. We know he doesn't really love Jeffrey. But he's, and it seems like this is kind of a conversation they've had before.

Perhaps she's complained about Jeffrey. This is kind of their rapport that they have. Obviously, they're in love with each other. But they're walking down the hallway and he's, he shows or he's like, look what I found last night. And he takes out a little vial within it, a rapture. and he's like, you've ever seen one of these for real? He's so excited that they got this restaurant. It's like, they got him.

I think it's probably been after it for a while. Just then another colleague comes down the street with a bagged big rat. He's like, I found the rat. And he's like, oh, my God, we fucking got him. This is so great. And he has to go into the room with the guy with the rat to do whatever test they have to do. But he sort of takes a moment to acknowledge that Elizabeth is a little worked up. And he's like, I'm sorry, like, you know, I was joking around.

But like, what can I do? like, are you okay? And she's like, no, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. You're good. Like, I'll talk to you later. I'm sure it's all going to be fine. Yeah, it's fine. He's probably going to be normal later. But again, it's like there, it's clear that that they actually have like a real true friendship. He really cares about her. And he's like, I'm sorry, like, you know, what can I do? She says, it's nice. And she walks back down the hall. And as she's walking down the hall, we notice everybody else in the hallway, there's like a couple workers on one end, a couple of people on the other end are just staring.

She doesn't notice. Goo works fast. Fluff. Fluff. Well, it started as kind of a glob. Right. Dolma. Nasty dolma. And it's turned into flush.

Nasty dolma works fast. I kind of thought the fluff was like what they were excreting. Yeah. Yeah, perhaps. It makes sense. She arrives home that night. Again, every time you see her, she's wearing something fabulous. I won't have time to call them all out.

but so many like silky blouses with really fun collars or like a big bow or she's just fabulous she arrives home she's trying to question geoffrey like you know you seem off to me like what's going on he's like everything's fine everything's fine but he's like oh i have to go out again sorry she's like you just got home he's sorry i have to i have to see a client he's not really giving her the answers she wants she watches him out the window he walks out the house and he immediately like as soon as he walks with the front door a car pulls up he gets in the car it's with like three other men and they drive away. She's like, this is so, so strange.

Cut to Matthew making dinner. She knocks on the door. She comes in and she's basically like, look, I know, I must sound crazy. I sound like I'm losing my mind, but I'm telling you, Jeffrey is not Jeffrey. Like, it looks like him, but it is not him. He is making like a stir fry and he's like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, here try this. And, like, feeds her just like a big piece of celery. It's just a big semi-raw, kind of warm piece of salary.

But he's like, come on, like, have dinner with me. We'll talk about it. Pours are some wine. You know, they seem eager to just be able to be in each other's company. They sit outside. He's got a lovely little, like, back garden patio area overlooking the city. They're having wine. They're having a lovely dinner.

He asks her, he's like, do you want to talk to Kipner? This is his friend. And she's like, the psychiatrist. and he's like, don't think of him as a psychiatrist. She's like, I'm not crazy. You think I'm crazy. He's like, I don't, but he could help you maybe eliminate some possibilities. You know, is Jeffrey having an affair?

Has he become gay? Has he become a Republican? These are all questions he asks. She says, I know you think I'm crazy. And he's like, I don't think you're crazy. He says, look, can you still do the thing with your eyes? He says, if you're not crazy, do the thing with your eyes. And this must just be a thing they learned if the actress could do.

because she just looks at him and then she makes her eyes go like so fast like I don't even know what or how you do it. But she does it. She does it and they laugh. This is clearly like a thing. You know, they know each other very well. Do they go in like opposite directions? Yeah. It's, I'd be like, I've never seen it.

It's crazy. Is that a thing people can do? I guess it's a thing she can do. There's, it's making me think of there's an actor in the movie identity that does the same thing. And I feel like he, I've seen him in other things as well. And he does the I thing in every single thing that he's in. And yeah, I feel like if you can do the I thing, they're going to ask you to do the I thing. Does he use it to prove his identity in that movie?

Like how maybe they're going to use that to prove her identity at some point in this movie? You know, it actually never comes to that. Oh, okay. But that would have, they used it now to just prove that they're friends. Should we have a thing that we can do to prove to each other, we're not aliens? We should have a think on that. Yeah, we got to keep it secret, though, because if anybody hears,

if any of the aliens are listening, we got to do it offline. We got to take it offline. But yeah, so, hey, everybody, just know, we already have a plan. By the time you, but at a time you're listening to this, you can't freaking get us,

because we know what we're going to do. You can't get us. You can't get us. You cannot get us. But so that, you know, this sort of eases the tension. They laugh. I know I'm really harping on this,

but it's just like, their relationship just feels so nice. It is like such a, and again, again, they have such good chemistry. It's just like, nothing so overt ever happens, but you're just like, oh, they really love each other. Like, you just, like, feel it that they really love each other. And it's just nice. I know. We're really missing that on screen. I want more of that. And just like that easy, like, companion, it just felt like it was like, these are just people who know and love each other. And I just really, that felt like so realistic to me.

I don't know. I just really liked it. And I keep talking about it. So you know that you'd get it because I'm going to talk about it like so many more times. He asks her what time is Jeffrey coming home when you need to be back? And she says he said not to wait up. And so he like looks and he says, do you want more wine? And they giggle. They're flirty.

Again like no lines are really being crossed here. But guys, pay attention to the signs. You're passing back and forth. This is where you want to be. Yeah. Sometimes it takes time. The next morning, Matthew goes to his dry cleaner. He's dropping off some shirts.

She takes the shirt. She goes to the back. And as he's about to leave a man in the dry cleaner, like a gun behind the counter, he goes like, quick, quick, calls Donald Sutherland over. His name is Matthew, but I would probably interchangeably call him Donald Sutherland. Matthew calls him over. And he says, are you a doctor? And he says, no, I'm not a doctor.

I'm a civil servant. And he says, something's wrong with my wife. referring to the woman who took his shirts. Matthew's like, something's wrong. She's sick. And he's like, no, that's, that's not my wife. Like, that's, she's wrong.

Something's wrong. That's not her. And Donald's husband was like, okay, it doesn't really know what you do with that. And we see watching them from behind some, like, shirt hangers, the wife, just like,

staying. Back out on the street, we see a garbage truck driving by full of gray flow. Mm-hmm. Full of fluff. Full of fluff. At work the next day, Elizabeth hasn't shown up.

He's calling. We see him call several times. You see the phone ringing in her house. No answer, no answer. He's clearly worried about her, wondering about her. At the end of the day, he walks to the elevator, and she approaches him. And he's like, oh, thank God.

There you are. I've been worrying about you all day. She looks bad. She's looking stressed. She's sweaty. she bursts into tears, runs to him, he holds her,

she cries. And he just holds her. Down at the end of the hall we see a janitor doing the floor buffing thing and the floor buffer is going back and forth and he's just standing still.

He's just standing still staring. Driving in his car, Matthew's driving. He's driving with his broken-ass wind. I'm like, this is so unsafe. Like, sir, you must get this windshield fixed. He's driving his car. Elizabeth tells him,

she's like, I keep seeing all these people. I think they're all in on something together. They're passing things back and forth. They seem to be communicating something to each other. They all understand something like we don't know about. I followed Jeffrey all day today. I watched him meet up with all these.

And we're seeing this like meet up with all these different groups of people. I didn't know any of them where I'd never seen them before. They only spent moments together. But like we watched them like pass like a big parcel back and forth. Like these very brief, very. very strange small group meetings of him just like robotically moving through town. Matthew's trying to make sense of it. He's like, are these maybe like patients of his or clients?

She's like, no, I'm telling you like that there's something that's not right about this. Matthew's like, well, Kipner is going to make it all make sense. We realize they're driving to his book party. He is a psychiatrist, but he's also kind of like a celebrity psychiatrist. So you're like, he'll help us. He'll make sense of it. Elizabeth tells him, she says, I've lived in the city. my entire life and today

everything felt different. Like it looked the same, but everything felt different. I can't explain it. I can't put a finger on it, but it was really, like I'm really frightened. To lighten the mood,

he tries telling her a joke. He's like, have I ever told you the one about the camel? And he like starts telling this joke and right before he gets to the punchline. She's like, you have told me this one before.

They laugh. He's like, well, can I please tell it to you again? She says yes. And just then they're at a stoplight and a man runs up against the windshield and stops a car. And he's got a little bit of blood on his face.

He looks so frazzled. And he says, look out. They're coming. You're next. You're next. You're in danger. You're in danger. He's totally freaked out.

They're like, who is this man? Is he okay? This man is Kevin McCarthy, the star of the 1956 invasion of the body snatchers. So just a fun little great. That's fun. That's fun. You're right. But he's like, you're next.

You're next. They're coming. They're coming. And just then we see a crowd of people like running out. after him. He runs so he runs down a street like perpendicular to them so they can't see where he goes but he runs. We hear this like weird scream and all these people start following him. They all run out of their sight line. A police motorcycle drives that way too. So Matthew's like, okay, the police are on it. But they're like very rattled. They hear another scream. The light changes. They turn the corner

and they drive past that same man now lying dead in the street and a crowd of people. just standing there looking. They arrive at the book party. Jeff Goldblum is there, the actor. His character is Jack Belichick. He is very Jeff Goldblum. He's young, he's intense, he's got a lot of energy. He's a writer, and he's jealous of Kipner.

He's like, why are all these people here for Kipner? Who cares about Kipner? Like, what about me? What about me? Matthew immediately goes to the phone in the back of the bookstore. He's like, I need to call. the police. I want to report, like, what we saw.

You know, I know they already know about the accident because there was the motorcycle cop there, but, like, I, you know, want to report my version of it. So he gets on the phone. While that's happening, Elizabeth notices a woman, she overhears a conversation of a woman in the corner of the bookstore crying and saying to Leonard Nimoy, who is Kipner. She's like, he's not my husband. He's not my husband. And Kipner's trying to calm her down. she's like he's an imposter.

This, of course, Elizabeth is like, wait, I understand what's happening here. She walks up. Kipner is comforting this woman. He grabs the husband's hand. He grabs her hand. He puts them together. He's like, come and see me tomorrow. Like, it's all going to be okay.

I'm going to help you. Elizabeth is like, like, wait or no, I want to talk to you. Like, I know what's going on. And Kipner's sort of like, I got this. I got this. These are my patients. Like, don't worry about it. We notice, again, in the bookstore, a lot of people staring, not really reacting.

how normal people would be expected to react and something like this. Matthew, meanwhile, he's hung up with the police. He's like, they didn't want my report. They, like, weren't interested in hearing my police report. And Jack, Jeff Goldman, was like, yeah, that's the, you know, authority for you.

He's very radical. Matthew comes up to find Elizabeth. Elizabeth goes over to the woman right before she leaves the bookstore and she's like, I believe you. my name is Elizabeth Driscoll. I work at the Department of Health like come find me and then the woman walks out

Matthew comes up and finds her he introduces her he's like Elizabeth this is Dr. Kipner oh there was a little moment too where when they first entered the bookstore and see Jeff Goldblum and Matthew introduced her to Jeff Goldblum this is my colleague Elizabeth

he says the Elizabeth which is also just like a fun little you know when you've talked to your friend about the woman you're in love with but it's okay we're just friends it's like very like oh oh it's this person it's fun little fun little details and so they kipner matthew and elizabeth go outside of the bookstore to talk elizabeth starts explaining what's been going on to him he's like you know i've been hearing this story a lot lately

and this is what it is it's just it's about a fear of commitment these days we move in and out of relationships so quickly and we we we don't want to actually deal with what's going on in our relationship. We don't really want to work through hard times with our partners. Like we just want to, you know, they're not who I thought they were and move on to the next relationship. This is a problem of commitment of society. And she's like, no, no, you're like not. And even Matthew's like, you're not listening to her. And he's like, oh, no, I am listening. And I've heard this many times before. And I'm a professional. And it's just like basically gaslighting. Both of them, Goldblum shows up. And as soon as he comes over to them, Kipner grabs him and pushes him against

the wall and like shoves him up and starts yelling at him. and then steps back, it goes to Elizabeth, how did that make you feel? This was all. And Goebbam's like, what the fuck? What was that? And he's like, that probably made you shocked, right? That probably made you wonder what was going on

and you wanted to retreat and withdraw and, like, move away from what was happening, right? Like, see, that's what your body's doing when something's happening that you don't understand. Your partner's not who you thought they were. You just want to step away and, like, not be a part of it and really just making a strange point, I think. Yep.

But it feels like a very, sexist psychiatrist 1970s kind of like what it really is is that you're like a flighty, flaky woman and you need to just like stand by your man. Yep, right. And he's like, meanwhile there are a bunch of zombies standing around staring into space. He's completely oblivious.

Goldblum is very flustered by what just happened. He's like, what the fuck's going on? And Matthew says, like, go home. I'll call you later. He's like, okay, fucking go home. Kipner tells him of this, like, will you please go home, go home to Jeff. free, give it another night, like, try to take my point of view into account and just,

we just promise me that you'll try that. And she's like, okay, yeah, but we see that she's like, this isn't, but sure, she's appeasing. Yeah, she's just humoring him. She gets in the, the passenger seat of Matthew's car to go home for the night. Um, Matthew goes over to talk to Kipner real quick. And Kipner's like, yeah, there does seem to be this kind of, like a hallucinatory flu going around. everybody, you know, lots of people saying they... A hallucinatory flu. And Matthew's like, did you say a flu? I work for the health department.

Should I be concerned about this? I am a civil servant after all. And Kepner's like, she just needs a good night's sleep. I think everything's going to be fine. Cut to Jack, arriving home to his wife, Nancy. This is Veronica Cartwright, who kind of looks like a man to say, Fred. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

they own a mud bath house. Oh my God. So lucky. Yeah, called Belichick Baths. So he goes home to his wife. She's like, how is a book party?

And he's like, fucking keep her up. I'm a better writer than him. She's like, I know, I know, I know. Why don't you go, like, go relax?

So he grabs a towel and he goes into the bathhouse. It's honestly disgusting. It's, it looks, it kind of looks like a, like a, high school gym with like curtains

it's like you know okay so you've been to the now where it's like cubicles of massage rooms yes yep it's like if that were mixed with a high school gym plus mud where it's like plastic cubicles of like massage tables or like shower curtains and then like a couple big mud tubs I see it's pretty gross um we for some inexplicable reason watch a large man trying to get out of the mud bath.

He can't get himself out of it. It's all slippery. He asks Jeff Goldblum for help. He's like, Pelham, help me get out of the bath. And he's like, well, he's depressed. He's like, I've got to go into the steam room as he goes into the stream. His wife has to come and help this man out of the mud bath.

And she's like, this happened last week. You really need to be more careful. She's like, helps his naked man get out of the mud bath and, like, puts him in the shower. Really interesting stuff. She then, we cut to, he's lying on one of the massage. table's belly up, I mean a towel over his waist, but she's giving him a stomach massage, which I was like, what?

This is like such an interesting set piece. It's a really interesting set piece. Very strange. Yeah, so she's given him a stomach massage. We'd seen, meanwhile, another man in a mud bath reading a book. His book is covered in mud. It's crusty and covered in mud. It's an insane place to be reading a book.

But he sort of seems to maybe not really be all there. I see. The mud bath itself is like bubbling in a way that it shouldn't be. He's farting. He's farting a lot probably. I truly was like, is he fart? Like we already made like a weird joke about this guy like not being able to get out of his mud bath. Is the joke that this other guy's farting?

I think it's somehow related to the other stuff. But I'm still like, I don't. It's a weird set piece. I don't really know why we did this. But we did. Cut to a little while later. She's cleaning up. That man's gone.

She's wiping things down for the night. And as she walks past one of the little cubicles, she notices that same book man sitting up real straight on one of the little tables. Gives her a fright. She says, Mr. Gianni, we're closing up for the night. Time for you to get out. And he's like, he gives her a book. And he's like, this is must reading, Miss Belichick.

And she's like, I've already read that one. But thanks. Why don't you like, you've been sitting in the mud too long. like time to time to go home good night cut to matthew dropping elizabeth off at home he's like let me walk you in it's been a long night he walks her inside we see she's got by the door's uh by like the table on the foyer one of those flowering dolmas that we saw with a note from geoffrey she's like oh that was yeah that was sweet of him she calls his name's like geoffrey no response matthew goes Jeffrey?

No response. They laugh. She thanks him for tonight. He wishes her a good night. The air is thick with tension. My God. Everybody leaves. We see in the shadows Jeffrey standing.

Still listening. Oh, God. Watching. That's the scariest thing to me is just a man in the shadows. of the shadows. Very scary, very scary, very scary. Really don't like that. Back at the baths, Nancy is going through her cleaning routine and on one of the tables

is a man lying covered fully head to toe in a sheet. She's like, Jack, you're going to suffocate there under that sheet. Why do you have the sheet all the way up over your head? Pulls it back. It's a nasty body of a man covered in those spindly, spidery, things. They're like corn husks. Ew.

That's what they're like. That just came to me. I was like, I've seen those before. Corn husks. They're like, he's like a little bit wet, but also covered in wispy corn husks. So we think this is the next stage, like that they like get into you and then they turn you into a corn husk? Nancy starts to scream because that's really an upsetting thing to see. Jack comes running. He was not, that's not him.

He was elsewhere. He comes over and his nose starts bleathe. And they're like, what fuck is this? Cut to some time later. Matthew's arriving. They've called him. And Jack is immediately like, so would you have, if you found like a dead body in a place of business, would you have to report that to the health department?

Like, is that a thing you'd have to do because that would be really bad for business? Matthew's like, let me just come see what we're talking about. Comes over. And they examine the body and they're saying, huh, so weird. It looks like an adult, but it's vague. There's like no character. He's got a nose, mouth, but no. discernible features.

It's not breathing. And they say, it has no fingerprints. It's like a, it's like a newborn baby. And Nancy says, you just said it's an adult. And he says, I said it was an adult because it's tall. The writing.

The writing. Just really stood out to me. Like, well, that's because it's tall. And then I're like, wait a minute. It's really tall. How tall? Jack, how tall are you? And we're like, huh, this thing is about as tall. as you, Matthew realizes something really serious is up here

and I need to call Elizabeth. I think she might be in trouble. Calls her in her bedroom. She grabs, we see a phone, a hand grab the phone. It's weak. She brings it up to her face. She does not look good. She is like scabby, flaky, weak.

She can't even speak into the phone. He's like, Elizabeth, she can't speak into the phone. We see Jeffrey take that phone from her hand and put it on the table, leaving it off the hook. Jeffrey. Matthew immediately is like, I got to go to get Elizabeth. He tells Nancy and Jackie's like, call Dr. Kipner, get him over here. I'm going to go get Elizabeth. And I will be back. What hell is Dr. Kipner going to do? Yeah, what we need is a psychiatrist. I think it's just like he's a friend. He's a friend. He's a friend. Maybe with connections. Perhaps. Jack, meanwhile, is also, he's, honey, I'm feeling so tired. And I feel dry. I feel so dry. We see his face also lotion. Like scabby and peely. And he's like, I'm just going to go lie down.

I'm just going to take a little rest and lie down. As he's resting, Nancy walks up to the body to take another look at it. She gets up close to it. And it's eyes open. She screams, runs over to get Jack. Jack, Jack, check, check, wake up. Jack wakes up. It's eyes close.

She doesn't see that happen, but we do. Whoa. So she grabs Jack. She's like, Jack, it's eyes open. It's eyes opened. Jack comes over, looks at it, its eyes are back closed, but now its nose starts bleeding, same nostril as Jack's.

Whoa. Jack walks up to it, looking at it closely, and its little wispy corn husks start moving over to touch Jack's hand. He pulls his hand back. Scream. Cut two. Matthew has arrived at Elizabeth. He looks for the window. He sees Jeffrey's there.

Jeffrey's watching TV with his headphones on. So Matthews, like, goes around the back entrance, breaks a window to sneak in. It's a little tense to Jeffrey here. He didn't. He goes up he creeps up to Elizabeth's bedroom, walks over and sees Elizabeth naked, covered in corn husks, lying on the patio, kind of wet husky, rudy body.

But then wait, is that Elizabeth? Elizabeth's on the bed. We see Elizabeth, Rudy Body, Elizabeth on the bed. He's like, oh my God, what the fuck? I got to get her out of here. But which one? No, the real one. The real one. He knows. He knows.

Okay, okay. Not Husk. Not the husk. He's like that. He thought that was Elizabeth. But once he saw real Elizabeth, he was like, I see what's going on here. Picks her up, sneaks her out of the house. It's really tense. Is he going to make it out? Is Jeffrey going to come and see?

He makes it out just as we see as he's walking out of the house. Jeffrey's going up the stairs with his trash can, ready to do whatever great fluff thing he has to do. Get Elizabeth out. We get her in the car. We start driving out as we hear a scream come from inside. the house. Get back to the baths. Kipner's there and he's

can't find the body. There's no body there. He's like, I don't know what you guys are talking about. There's nothing here. Nancy and Jack are like, it was here. I promise. Matthew and Elizabeth arrived.

He's like, there was another body at Elizabeth's. Like, this is for real. And he says he's going to, he calls the police to report the body at Elizabeth's. He tells Nancy, take Elizabeth to my place. And then he and Kipner and Jack

get in his car and they go back to Elizabeth's to meet the police for the report that he just. put in. They go up into Elizabeth's room. It's two police officers, Jeffrey, Kipner, Jack, Matthew, they go up there. He's like,

here was the body right here. They go up. There's nothing there. It's just a bunch of plants. And he's like, I'm telling you, it was here. Jeffrey, you must have taken her out of here. But very quickly, the tables turned and we're like, wait, so you broke in and you took actual Elizabeth out of here. So, like, I think actually you're the problem. Right.

Kipner is able to calm things down. The police officer's wife is a big fan. He's like, he eases the tensions. He's like, I think we can all work this out amongst ourselves. Jeffrey's like, yeah, I'm not going to press charges. It's all okay. The guys leave. And as Kipner, Jack and Matthew leave, we see Jeffrey and the two cops exchange knowing glances.

Oh, okay. Back at Matthews, everyone's trying to. explain to Kipner what has happened. Elizabeth's giving her side. Matthew's saying what he saw. Jack and Nancy are saying what you saw. Kipner's wearing a really funny little like half leather glove. It just like covers the back palm of his hand. It's a really interesting little choice. Jack and Elizabeth look better. Less scabby. They look normal. But they're telling them, you know, what happened. Elizabeth is telling, tells Kipner like, people are being duplicated. This is what I think happened. This is what happened to Jeffrey. People are being duplicated. And when that happens to you, you become part of this thing. Like whatever, everybody else that's like this communal, very pluribus.

Kipner's like, I'm sorry, this just doesn't make any sense. You're talking about duplicates. You're talking about there was a body. Where did the body go? Just logically, this isn't adding up. Everyone's getting really worked up, really frustrated. Jack didn't liken to begin with. And they're like, what do you think we're being crazy?

Like, why would we lie about this? Like, we're telling you what, like, what really happened? Everyone's getting worked up. Elizabeth's crying. it's a very stressful tense situation. Matthew is outside on the balcony. Kipner comes out to talk to him and Matthew's like, you think I'm crazy. Kipner says, no, I believe you. I've known you too long to think that you're lying. What do you want me to do? And Matthew's like, you know, I'm a member of the health department after all. So I'm going to handle this like we'd handle any public health crisis. This is like an outbreak and we need to contain it. Get our hands on what's going on. But this is going to cause a bit of a panic. I'm going to need your help in sort of getting the authority. to believe me. Help me out with this. I know your friends with the mayor. Will you get him to take my call? See? Connections. Connections. Kipner's like, absolutely, I will do that for you. Keep me posted.

Okay, great. Kipner leaves. We follow Kipner as he walks down the street around the side of the house, gets in a car. And in the car is Jeffrey and those two police officers. And Kipner says to them, the sooner the better. Ah. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Who can we trust? Who can we trust?

Back at Matthews, Jack picks up a flower. We've seen this flower before. It was sitting inside a vase of otherwise, like, regular flowers we've seen before, but he picks it up, and he starts looking at it, and he's like smelling it. And Elizabeth recognizes it, and she's like, where'd you get that flower? He says it was in this face. She says, that's the same flower that I found at the park. That's the same flower that Jeffrey gave to me.

I've all of a sudden seeing them all around town. I've never seen them before in my life. Nancy says that's the same flower that Mr. Gianni, the mud book guy. She's like, he gave me that plant. It has to be about the, it has to be this. They're aliens. They came from outer space. Jack's like, that doesn't make any sense.

Why would they? And she's like, why not? Why wouldn't they have come from outer space? And so now Elizabeth's like, whatever it is, these flowers are part of it. We need to take it to the lab and analyze these flowers to some into do. with them. Great. They go to the office for the Department of Public Health. Matthew is, we see him calling various government authorities calls the mayor's office and the deputy mayor agrees to meet with him. And so he goes to me with the deputy mayor. The deputy mayor is

like, thank you so much for telling me this. But don't tell anybody. We don't want to, you know, start a stir. So maybe just don't tell anybody else what you've seen. Meanwhile, Elizabeth is wanting to test this flower. Her colleague is sitting in the test. area and he's like, you know, Elizabeth, like, you've been late for work a lot lately. And, you know, really this should go to the Department of Agriculture, not the Department of Public Health. And she's like, I know, just, I'll do the whole thing. Just like, let me sit here and do the task. We're like, I think this guy's like one of the guys. But he's like, I'll do it. Leave it with me. And so she's like, fine. You can do it. Meanwhile, we have sort of a montage

if we see Matthew calling various government agencies, different departments, everyone is telling him, don't tell anybody else what you saw. We're actually all over this. We're on top of it. I actually think things are getting better. Like, no need to worry. Maybe don't tell anybody.

Everything's good. Everything is good. As that's happening, it's intercut with scenes of him walking through the streets of San Francisco. The way this movie's shot is so, so great. It's like, this part is all handheld and, like, Dutch angles,

and everything feels very, like, disorienting and chaotic, and he's getting these phone calls. It's like, actually everything's fine. Thank you Matthew. Thank you, Matthew for your call. Everything's fine. Don't worry about it. We're all good. We're good. Please don't tell anybody. Please don't tell anybody. He's walking past people who are all acting like very robotic and he's like, oh no, oh no, oh no. He goes back to the dry cleaners. The husband is there and he's like, actually everything's better now. My wife is totally better and I'm good and everything's good.

And the wife's standing there and they're both like, aha, ha, everything's good. We go to the Department of Health and that woman from the bookshop comes over to talk to Elizabeth and she's like, I just want to you to know that everything's fine now and I'm all better. and what I was saying to before, don't even worry about it. Nobody's buying it. They're like, uh-oh, this is not good, not good. Back that night, we're at Matthew's place. Kipner offers Elizabeth a pill to help calm her nerves. He tells Matthew, everybody just needs a good night's sleep.

I'm just helping you all get a good night's sleep. I gave Elizabeth a little something like, don't worry about it. He says, Belchicks, can I offer you guys a ride home? And they're like, we're not going home. Matthew says, you can stay here. they exchanged a very night like Nancy's very grateful. We love Matthew. He's a really good guy.

So Kipner leaves. He's like, all right, I'll see you all in the morning. Have a good night's sleep. Matthew goes outside to sit in his gorgeous patio, looks out of his view of San Francisco. Now, if it were me and I had just found out that this was related to a plant, I would not be going outside.

Not to victim blame here, but Matthew, let's stay inside. Yeah. Matthew goes out into his lovely garden and wouldn't you know it, he falls asleep. I mean, it's been a long day. Yeah. I could sleep anywhere. He's probably asleep apnea.

And as he falls asleep, his hand, one of his hands is, you know, falling off the side of the armrest, touching the ground. And we see some husks moving and swirking their little way over to his hand. And we see that those husks are emerging from. a pod. Now this pod is the same shape as those little dolmas but big. And now it's like hard. It's not wet, it's dry. And it looks like a big, like a big sea bean, a big dry sea bean pod.

Okay. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And we're hearing the noise. We're hearing like worrying sci-fi like, whew, whoa, whoa, whoa, wow, like a heartbeat through like a It's like a caterpillar and a Chrysalis. Exactly. And so, and Matthew's asleep

and we see the husks coming out of this pod and then the pod flowers, that same flower comes out of the front of the pod and in the center of the pod where the like

center of the flower is, you know, what is that called? It definitely has a name. Uh-huh. It's like the piston. Pistola? Pistola. Pistola?

The Pistola. La Pistola. La Pista. I know it in Spanish. We see, yeah, we see from La Pistola. It comes out and it is in fact a nasty, wet, goopy head. And we see this pod from the Pistola birth a big, goopy, rudy, husky, mucusy fetus. And it pushes it out onto the ground and it's writhing and it's goopy and it's like,

And it has, it's big, and it has sort of the form and face of like a baby, but it's also big. A man size? Like a man sized. Formless baby. Formless baby. So that's happening. And then we see three other pods.

Three other pods. That's happening. And a little nasty, mucus, big formless fetus, rudy babies come out onto the ground. And they're all writhing around. And we see as they're writhing, they're like forming into more human-like shapes. In fact, the human-like shapes of the other humans that are present, we see one getting a really, really gorgeously curly head of hair. Wait, I'm a little confused. So before when there were two Elizabeths, had this already happened?

This had already happened. To Elizabeth. We just didn't see evidence of the flower before. This is the first time we're seeing the full process. Correct. This is the first time we're seeing the full transformation. Exactly. Got it.

So presumably, these little flowers grow into big pods, and from the pod is birthed the duplicate, which upon being near your human form can turn into you. Okay. And then when you sleep, it wakes up. It comes alive. And then you die? Become gray fluff.

Oh, you, oh, the gray fluff is the humans. I believe that's the cycle. Oh, okay. Copy that. So we see as he's sleeping, Matthew's face is getting scabby and like peely. Fluffy. Yeah. And the fetus nearest to him is starting to really look like him. And from his sleep, we start to hear, Matthew, Matthew, Matthew, wake up.

And it's Nancy. She hadn't fallen to sleep. She came outside. She's like, Matthew, they're all around you. Wakes him up. He wakes up. He sees them. He's like, get the others. I mean, waking up to this would be really bad. Really bad. But better than not waking up. Exactly. They rush to wake everybody else up.

Matthew's like, I'm going to call the police. This man believes far too long in structures of authority. I mean, he is a civil servant after all. He calls a police and they say, you know, this is the police. He says, I like to report several bodies. And they say, certainly Mr. Bunnell. And he says, how'd you know my name? I never told you my name.

So now he's like, oh, fuck, it's everywhere. It's everyone. Yeah. It's too late. Jack is like, hang up. They're all part of it. Everyone's part of it. Just then the power gets cut.

They look out the window. And there's all kinds of people coming up. They are barricade in the street. They're running up to the building. They're like, oh, no, oh, no. we are fucked. Matthew says out the back door, everybody out the back door. So they go out the back door. He goes out to the garden.

He grabs a plow. He brings it up over the double of Elizabeth. He can't do it. He goes over to his and he brings that thing down and chops the head in half. And we see it and it's nasty. Hamburger? What's inside?

Hamburger. Goopy red blood. It's like really, really bright red. It's like red paint. It's like red paint. It's like that's the consistency. But yeah, he chops his head in half. And it sort of like bends in. It's nasty. Gross.

As he does this, the pod people is what I'm going to call them. They seem to notice this and feel this. And they all scream. The way they achieved these screams, I hate to tell you, is pig squeals. Oh, no. The screams are. really unnerving. They open their mouths, and so it's like you expect it to be, but then it's like a,

it's like a, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. I presume they were tickling the pigs or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I think it was pretty, it was laughing. It's pigs laugh. Pigs laughter. Pigs laugh at pigs, squeal of delight. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. In certainly the 70s, that's what they were doing. So the pot people scream and they start,

pursuing them. They pursued them through the streets. Matthew and the others have managed to get ahead of them. They run down a staircase and they're able to sort of hide behind the staircase before the pod people can see them. So they keep running down the staircase, but they continue on. They've gotten away from them for a moment. And they're seemingly the pod people are like screaming to each other.

It's like how they like call to each other. They continue running. They make it to the pier. But they're as the, again, shot so beautifully. As they're running, it's night time. the big like lamp post cast huge shadows of all of them so like even after they've run past like you can see where they went because their shadows are are so big and pronounced so the people pod people see them follow them they get them to a dead end there's a gate at the end of the pier they can't go any further

they're realizing they're coming for them there's nothing they can do jack decides he's going to step up he's going to sacrifice himself he runs back out he gets their attention he gets them to follow him he starts running the other direction he says get Elizabeth and Nancy to safety. I'm going to get them. I'm going to distract them and I'm going to send help. Nancy does not want him to leave. She goes with him.

She runs with her husband. Elizabeth and Matthew stay hidden. Pod people go after Jack and Nancy. Matthew and Elizabeth, we cut to them walking through San Francisco, trying to act normal. Act like pod people. Act like pod people. They're kind of just like walking around.

We are close up on their feet and we see there's also a bunch of pod people kind of walking along behind them as they as Matthew and Elizabeth walk faster because they're getting anxious that like the pod people like huh why are they walking faster they start walking faster so the more anxious they're getting the pod people realize oh these aren't one of them they start running chasing them again this movie is great it is too long and I will say we do about 20 minutes of hide and seek this sort of thing that all sort of gets us to the same place Great. So they're running.

They get pursued. They make it down another street. They're not pursued anymore. And then other people find them and they get pursued. We kind of do this a few times in a row. One of the times that we do this, they managed to get into the back of a taxi. Ask the taxi driver to drive them to the airport. This taxi driver is Don Siegel who directed the 1956 invasion of the body snatchers.

So that's fun. They're in the back of this taxi. Pretty quickly, he starts driving really, really fast. they're like, this feels suspicious what's going on. He drives them right up to where police have blocked off the road. He stops. Police officer comes up at the door and the taxi driver

says to him, I got both of them. Turned to the back seat. They've snuck out of the car. Phew. Again, we've done this a lot of times. They sneak into the Department of Health. They make it back to the office. We see outside. We had seen this guy before a few times. There's a man who just kind of hangs

outside of the Department of Health building. playing a banjo. He's got a dog. He is maybe unhoused or maybe is sort of a a troubadour traveler. Playing the banjo, he's got his dog. There we see that he and his dog are asleep on the lawn out front of the Department of Health next to a pod. Matthew tries to

wake him up. He doesn't wake up. So Matthew kicks the pod and we see a little bit of blood oozing out of that pod. Nasty. Nasty. They make it into the Department of Health building. A security guard starts coming through. Matthew quickly grabs some darts off the office

dartboard grabs them. They go and they hide under a desk together. It's really tense. Security guard walks by. They're really quiet. He doesn't see them. A moment of reprieve. And in the dark, under the desk, they finally look at each other and quietly without saying anything. Kiss. Oh, wow. Tragic. Sometime later they hear sirens outside and a loud speaker announcing things. They go to look out the window. And we see just a full assembly line of pod people filing in a line being given. in big pods walking the other direction, handing pods to trucks, just like they're, they've got a system, they are spreading these pods everywhere. They're like, oh my God, this is like, oh, my

God, this is like. This movie ripped off pleuribus. This movie fucking ripped off pleuribus, Vince, see these guys. So yeah, they're pretty quickly, this is like, this is such a huge operation. Like, we're never going to get ahead of this. What are we going to do? What are going to do? I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I just want to go to sleep. I can't stay awake anymore. And Matthew's like, you have to. We can do this. Like, we'll find a way. Really, like, motivating her, trying to keep her hopeful.

Do they know where to get any meth or to, like, cocaine? Well, they have a coworker who does speed, and they find his pills. Okay. Now we're talking about it. She's like, here's Belasco's pills. And they're like, how many do we take? And she's like, the bottle says, take one. And he says, take five.

So they each take five pills. And just then, lights turn on, door opens. It's Kinder, Kipner. It's Kipner, Jack, Jeffrey, and a couple other guys. Jack's been got, he's a pod person. He tells them, it's not bad, guys. It's just like they said. It would have been so much easier if we'd just gone to sleep.

At the beginning, plurbus. They grab and restrain Matthew and Elizabeth. Jeffrey tells Elizabeth, you'll still have the same life, the same clothes, the same car. You'll be free of anxiety and hate. The same clothes? Sign me up. I mean, her clothes are really. good. That's true, but some of them

got to have some nasty goo on them. Yeah. And Kipner injects each of them with a sedative so that they will go to sleep. He tells them, they'll be fine soon. This will all be better. You know, we've survived. We've, I don't know, he gives

this monologue that you'll hear in the trailer so I don't feel the need to replicate it perfectly, which is good because I can't remember it. But it's something like, we've survived, we've come through space, and we land where we land, We do what we got to do. We survive because that's what all species just need to survive.

Something like that. Matthew tells him, you're killing us. Very sad. The others leave. They're like, great, problem solved. They're alone in the room with Kipner and Jack. Elizabeth tells Matthew that she loves him. And just then Matthew attacks.

He just took five speed. He is not going to get got by this. Oh, yeah. He stabs Jack in the neck with a dart killing him. They grab Kipner. they knock him out and they drag him into a big freezer, lock him in there. Elizabeth and Matthew escape into the back stairwell. As they're running down the stairwell, they run into Nancy.

And there's a moment where they're like, she's staring at them. They're staring at her. And they realize she's not changed. She says, I got away. I lost track of Jack. We have to find Jack. And they're like, yeah, let's go out this way. Maybe he's out here.

Maybe, yeah, and they're like, how have you, we separated from hours ago. Like, how have you managed to not? be changed. She says they could be fooled. Just don't show any emotion. We'll look out for each other. Like, we can fool them. So they walk outside. They're immediately shuffled into the assembly line. Like get in the line, grab a little pod. It's working. They're walking like the pod people. They're playing it very, very cool. Seems to be going great until Elizabeth turns and she sees the body of a dog with the face of the banjo man. I think when Matthew kicked the pod and injured it,

it made the duplicate get confused and fucked up and it duplicated half of the dog and half of the banjo man. Is a dog walking on two legs or four legs? All four, but just a human face. Okay. It's really upsetting. It's really upsetting. And she and Elizabeth screams because it's, you would.

Right. You know, pod people turn. an older woman looks at them, opens her mouth, screams. Matthew slapped her across the face and they run. They get separated from Nancy, but they're just running away

from these pod people who have now all gotten onto them, screaming, following them. They see a truck driving way. They manage to run and jump into the back of the truck, driven away. We see the truck arrive at the docks where we see there's a greenhouse setup.

They are growing these pods. They have got a system going. they sneak away around the back side of the greenhouse as they're walking Elizabeth twists her ankle it's not looking good Matthew picks her up carries her brings her over into these bushes they just sit there and hold each other and Elizabeth is crying he's crying he tells her he loves her I love you I love you Elizabeth I love you she's sobbing she's like I can't go on I can't keep doing this um and just then from the ocean a ship arrives and they hear on bagpipes,

Amazing Grace. It's beautiful. And they're like, oh my God, ships. Ships, we can get on a ship and we can get out of here. Matthew's like, I'm going to go, I'm going to go look Elizabeth. I'm going to get for help. She can't, her ankles twisted and she's also absolutely falling apart. He's like, I'll be right back.

So he leaves Elizabeth to go. Look at this ship and we hear Amazing Grace playing and it's gorgeous and it's triumphant. And he walks up to this ship. to see pods being delivered onto this ship. Oh, no. Oh, God, why didn't I think of this? They look at an amazing grace, those motherfuckers. Oh, no.

Devastated. Matthew returns to Elizabeth. She's asleep. Oh, yeah. Curled up asleep in the ground. He tries to wake her up. It's too late. He is not waking her up.

And he grabs her and he holds her and cries. He tells her he loves her. He says, with there's a ship. We're going to get out of here. I'm going to get us on the ship. And from over his shoulder, we see her face begin to crack inwards, almost as if all the moisture is getting sucked out of her from within.

And she crumbles and dissolves in his hands. And he stands up and screams such a good scream, a scream that's like, I love a good scream. It's not even loud. It's like, it's like the scream of someone who's like truly traumatized. So horrified by what has just happened.

And out from the other side of the bush stands a newly formed, gorgeous, butt-ass naked Elizabeth. Because it wouldn't be the 70s without some gratuitous female nudity. Right, right, right. And she stands up and she says, Matthew,

going to be fine. You should, I don't know, something like, it's good. It's join us. It's painless, really. He runs, goes over to that greenhouse. He climbs the rafters. It's kind of like, it's almost like an airplane, like a mini little leg air, but it's like the dock. So it's like one of those

warehouses that they set up the greenhouse inside. So it's like metal and you can kind of climb up it and there's like sort of interior little balcony zone. One of those. He climbs up there. and he sees a fire axe, grabs it. It sets off an alarm, like what happened if you pulled a fire alarm. So the pod people know that he's there,

but he just starts chopping at cables that are holding up their like heat lamps for the greenhouse. So they start falling, breaking, exploding. The whole thing starts lighten on fire. Pod people are trying to put the fires out there, running, screaming. We see the pods are like oozing this nasty, thick red. painting bloody goo. We see once again because we have to do it one more time.

Elizabeth walking naked triumphantly through the greenhouse. She sees, she looks up, she sees Matthew, she points at him and she goes, like sticks her tongue out and does the craziest scream. Also, by the way, wear her clothes just to like point that out. Because

we were promised the same clothes. They all get born, exactly. Exactly. They all get born naked, apparently. but everybody else managed to find through like why did she just again I'm like she didn't need to keep being naked like all this time but come on we gotta see her tits um pod people all pursue him he's running out of that greenhouse it's collapsing it's light on fire he slides down the roof he manages to get out just as the whole greenhouse explodes but there's pod people still after him he runs he manages to get like under a pier so it's like wooden walkway a bus and he him but some space for him to be below it he's hiding out we hear them all running past they're looking for him there's like a hole in the wooden slats above him and we see a flashlight shine down that hole cut away fade up a new day pods being now we're just full lighted day pods are being carried into city hall we see a bus load of sorry henley children being taken into city hall for a field trip

and being told, like, first thing we have to do is take a nap. Oh, God. We see Matthew walk into his office, seemingly emotionless. Walks in. We see everybody out, Elizabeth is there, everybody else is there, going about their jobs. It looks like they're brewing, like, juice of the flower. I think that's, like, what's happening. Matthew sits at his desk.

We see him cut out a newspaper clipping like he was doing at the beginning. the man loves to cut out newspaper clippings. The day ends. We see everybody orderly single file make their way out of their office back down into the elevator. He walks in a long file with them. We're like, is he pretending? Is he one of them? We don't know.

We don't know. We see him make it outside. We see him walking down an empty stretch of street. He's kind of looking around him. We're like, okay, is he looking around? Like he's getting a lay of the land. seeing, you know, how to pretend to be a pod person. We hear, Matthew, Matthew, he turns and we see Nancy looking worse for wear, God bless her.

But she's like, oh my God, Matthew, I found you. She hasn't been changed. He turns, looks at her, raises a finger point. End of movie. Amazing. Oh, my God, Emily, that was an astonishingly perfect recap. Wow. so much. Wow. Thank you so much. I also just want to say that I did just check my phone and Joel

texted me that it's called corn silk. Oh, inside of the corn. Yeah, it's the silk not the husk. The husk is the part that is outside of the silk. The husk is the leaf. Oh, I was imagining, yeah, the husk. Well, he would know. He's the Iowa boy. It was the silk. Has that ruined everything for everyone? They're covered in corn silk. People have been freeing pulling up their hair all episode along. Oh my God. It's corn silk. It's corn silk is what I meant.

I think it's fine. That's what I was picturing for. Thanks. For what it's worth. Hey, Sammy, thanks. It's corn silk. I'd be absolutely beating myself up over that for days. That was, yeah.

I mean, it's like one of those movies that you hear about and you're like, like, oh yeah, so many things have been based off of this. You know, so much of culture has generated from this idea. Even just the term pod people constantly used by contrarians in high school. Oh, yeah. What are you a pod person? Biggest insults you could levy. What's, you know, what's like the general consensus about this movie in terms of

its, you know, relevance to culture? Is it a commentary on how capitalism has. has turned us all into automaton's. I do think it's a bit of a critique on consumerism, yeah, that it's like, well, you'll still have the same clothes, the same car. Like, that's all that matters is the external. That your inside can change fundamentally, but like nobody really cares about that, right? Also, it's one of those like, we'll be free of crime.

We'll be free of, you know, isn't that better? That's really, like, the essence of all problems is individuality. I think also because it was in the 50s and then the 70s and was kind of a comment on like going from like hippies to like into the office and starting our careers. Being a yuppie. Yeah. Okay.

It's so. But it feels relevant no matter what. No matter what. No matter what lends you look at it through. Because it's also feeding into this idealized notion of like the rugged individual. individual, which obviously we love, so much of our culture has like idealized and put on a pedestal, like the Marlboro Man and all of that. But it's interesting because it's like kind of a critique of community at the same time where it's like if people are just working together. Not that I'm saying that this is what you want.

You don't want five people. This is also the thing about like pleuribus sometimes. I was going to say it's like a, I mean, it does kind of seem nice. Right. And like we should be able to work together and not that's not just like shit on that completely. I think it's the fear of like losing yourself and the fear of losing your personality and things that make you unique and kind of sacrificing your little quirks and like individualisms that make you you in order. to like fit into a broader society and that and that being scary. But I can see.

Yeah, he's like societal norms, not community. It's like who they tell you you have to be. Right, right. And like keep you up of the Joneses. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Sure. But yeah, I mean, but I do feel the same thing in pluribus where I go back and forth where I'm like, yeah, I don't want to like lose my individuality. And again, I think that is different. from being like pro individualism and like every man for himself because that's not how I feel. But yeah, then you do have the moments of being like, oh, but joining one big, one big giant organism with no tension or disagreements ever. Does sound nice at times.

At times. Yeah. It's a it's a freaking Not tale as old as time What am I trying to say? It's just like Forever relevant Of a

Story sorry I can't sleep because I mean Can't speak because of the sleep after you I'm so tired Oh she's so tired It's been getting progressively darker and darker in this room too And now I feel like I'm like Ready for bed And I want to see the like mountain of snow outside

of your window. I know. You guys, it's supposed to snow like two feet. It's crazy. It's a lot of snow. It's a lot. A lot of snow.

Ugh. Yeah. I liked it. I liked it as well. I liked it. A classic. An absolute classic. A classic.

And, you know, really, at the end of the day, a love story. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's how I choose to see it. of a kind that we might be missing in today's... Just give me that spark, man. Today's media. Give me that spark.

Donald Sutherland is good at having a spark. We did Don't Look Now. One of the best sex scenes ever that... He's got a lot of charisma. Yeah. Powerful presence on that man. And don't get me started with Jeff Goldblum, obviously. And don't get me started.

Who I've met and had a spark with. Yeah. Jeff Colum, 74. Yep. That's his oldest Stellan Scarsgard. I've been thinking a lot about Stelan Scarsgar this week. That he came out of nowhere for you guys, but for me it's because I'm only thinking about him all week.

Yeah. Yep. I found the walk to the podium for the Golden Globes uncomfortably long. Yeah. Like, Stellan Scarsguard, getting from his table to his day. Just for him. You mean, like, I feel like, yeah.

It was awkward and stuffed. He was way too far away. so that seemed like people didn't know like where the clear path was. There should be a clear path. Yeah, you're going around tables. People are saying hi to you. You're saying hi to them. Like, it could take, it takes too long to get up there. And they're playing the song. They play the song and then they have to restart the song. And you're like, oh, no, they restarted the song. And you know that's cutting into your time. So you're getting stressed. I wish I had more things off the top of the dome to say about.

this movie. I think that it's like it's exactly what you said earlier, Sammy, just in terms of both, yes, I don't want to lose myself. I obviously am not interested in becoming a pod person, but I would also love for us to have a deeper, more nuanced understanding of what it means to be in community with each other and have a healthy social fabric where we work together. I think that it's, there's something about it being frictionless, though. And I think, Kenley, you've talked about how friction is, like, important in order to have deeper connections. And so I don't think that what the pod people have is a deep connection because it's completely frictionless and shallow. Right. It's just emerging, right? That's not like, that's not, you're not building something together.

You're just all becoming the same. Right. And it's devoid of what makes us different. To make an argument against becoming a pod person. I think a pod person is actually bad. I mean, I just kind of think there's some downsides. I want some spoilers for Plyrobis, by the way. Not right now. I haven't finished it yet. But I want someone to tell me how the season ends.

I can tell you with not a lot of answers. So not a lot of spoilers to be had. Oh, nothing really happens. Okay, but I also, I don't want the spoilers. Okay. Sorry. That's even a spoiler. even for me to say that.

Yeah, I don't know, Donald Sutherland. He birthed Kiefer Sutherland. He did. Who also was... I don't know if he did, but... Well, you're right. Oh my God, how dare I. How dare I?

That was an accidental slip-up. Please forgive me. Who is Kiefer Sutherland's mom? I don't even know. See, that's a fucking shame. I don't know that. That's fucking sexist of us. Wow.

It's so sexist to know a dad and not. not a mom. That is unbelievably sexist of us. Every person, if you know a dad, you have to know the mom. Otherwise, you're a huge sexist. That's a perfect example of an internet comment. Just because we brought up awards shows, I also just wanted to say Oscar Noms came out and Amy Madigan did get nominated for weapons, which.

is a pretty big win for horror in general, I would say. So that's pretty exciting. Is that supporting actress? Yep. Wow, that is huge. Because do you think they even, like, lobbied that hard? Maybe they did. I just feel like so much of awards or, like, the publicity team is behind the scenes.

I think Amy Madigan has a lot of, like, love with it in Hollywood. She's been acting for a long time. She's married to Ed Harris. That's a good example of knowing a mom and dad. So she's probably got a lot of good. She's got some connections in the academy. Do you guys know how you're doing with the Vulture movie bracket, by the way? Pretty bad.

I think I'm in like 3,000th place, 4,000. Same. I'm right in the middle. I'm like, and that means like 3,000 or 4,000. Yeah. Also, Jesse Plemons. no nomination just pretty pretty crazy I think absolutely oh unacceptable that's too bad and that's all I have to say about that really okay justice for Jesse ugly step-sister sorry also got nominated

for um why I don't remember your makeup and hair styling um just to clarify my current rank is 4,760 out of 19,4993 so Okay, so that's actually really high. Not in the middle, really solidly top third. Yes, makeup and hairstyling. Anyways, that's exciting. Good for them. And obviously sinners, breaking freaking, freaking records left and right is also very fun.

Love it. Love it. Good ear for horror. We love to see it. Yep. All right. Emily, I got to hear that French accent again. Oh, okay.

Right, right, right. Okay, hold on. What's in this? Okay, Burgundy. Kp. else. From all of a Sierra, Too Scary Didn't Watch. Goodbye. Goodbye. We didn't.

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