Too Scary; Didn't Watch - M3GAN 2.0
Episode Date: July 9, 2025She's baaAAAaaaackkkk and ready to tell the world that AI is capable of empathy if only we program morality into it, you know - morality - that thing humans can all agree on!! Get this girl i...n front of congress and then get her a brand deal and then get her doing another dance on TikTok and then get her john wicking all our enemies!!! hell yeah summer 2025 4 evaVideo episodes available on our Patreon!Movie Intro @ 20:20Trivia @ 23:36Recap starts @ 27:35TrailerFollow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves.
I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to and you better believe it's Hell Chella week two.
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That didn't work as well, but that's okay.
And that means we have another new release for you all.
And if you are just dying to know what it is,
there are timestamps in the show notes
because I feel like we have a little bit to discuss here
up top before we dive in.
Starting with some haunted housekeeping,
which is just a last minute reminder
that we have a live show in Los Angeles tonight
at the time of this release.
Fucking Christ.
Ha ha ha.
Henley and I will be drugged and-
I can't believe it.
Slightly inebriated.
I might be in a full blow up Grimace costume.
Yeah, TBD.
TBD.
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
There are just a few tickets left, possibly sold out by the time this comes out. I don't know, but there are unlimited live stream tickets.
So if you want to see whether or not Henley's gonna be
in that Grimace costume, go to dynastytypewriter.com
and get a freaking ticket.
And the live stream is available for a week afterwards.
Two weeks, yes.
Two weeks. Two weeks, yes. Two weeks.
Two weeks.
Or a week.
Or a week.
Or 10 days.
It'll tell you when you buy it.
A little bit longer than just today.
So it's going to be really fun.
Lisa Gilroy is our guest.
We are going to be talking about Final Destination Bloodlines.
And it's going to be really fun.
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
I can't believe it.
We're gonna be selling some limited edition merch too.
I think it's gonna be a big hit.
I think it's gonna be a big hit.
Yeah, we're gonna need to order more.
We need to order more.
But at the moment we, oh, it's limited edition
and limited quantity.
Yes.
We're gonna be like Kylie with the lip kits.
But sell us out and demand more
and then we'll see what happens.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Oh wow, it's really exciting.
I truly cannot wait.
Oh my God.
It's cool.
It's really cool.
It's really cool.
What we're doing is really cool.
It's so cool.
I think it's really cool.
It's really fucking cool.
Okay, so Haunted haunted housekeeping out of the way.
And I think we have a pretty interesting,
did anything scary happen to you this week?
A little bit of a change or a theme that we're following.
Sort of an overarching theme.
Beautiful.
We all did something a little mystical.
A little mystical.
Individually, not together, a little
spiritual little magical.
Magical. Yeah.
Who wants to kick it off?
Who wants to go first? I guess I should probably kick it off because I feel like I started
the ball rolling with this.
You started it.
True.
Which is that I am searching.
I'm searching for answers.
I'm searching the world.
I am ready to like climb to the top of a mountain
and meet with some wise person who's gonna,
some oracle who's gonna tell me the future.
So in that vein, two years ago,
because I've been searching for so long, two years ago.
Well, it's an endless search, it's a life long search.
I'll never stop searching.
Once you stop searching, you're dead.
That's like how it works.
Exactly.
So I'm not dead yet, still searching.
And so I signed up to see a psychic two summers ago.
I'm pretty sure I texted you guys like,
LOL, I signed up to see a psychic in like 2027 or something.
It was so far in the future,
but then I got off the wait list.
And so I got an earlier appointment.
So I didn't have to wait like three years.
I waited only two years.
And I saw Wendy and I can't remember her last name.
Wendy.
Just Google Wendy.
Just Google Wendy.
Just Google Wendy, see what you find.
Pure heart sessions.
Wendy pure heart sessions.
Yes, yes.
And the reason that I went to go see her
was because William Hughes,
who's been a guest on this podcast,
he went to go see her and she told him some things
that he didn't believe in the moment
but then promptly became true within like three months.
Yep.
And-
We have another friend who saw her
and had was a similarly very accurate.
Yeah. Yeah. Scary.
Situation. I was like, I was like scared the whole day before seeing her.
I was so excited.
Emily was texting me. She was like pumping me up.
She was like, she was like, you got this girl.
Like, it's going to be OK.
Yeah. The truth can only set you free.
That kind of stuff.
And all I could write back was I'm scared, because that's genuinely how I felt.
And then I had a Zoom session with Wendy,
and I...
You know what it's weird?
I really wish I could have debriefed with you guys
about this before doing this podcast,
because I'm feeling so uncertain about the whole thing.
I think that's the main takeaway,
just like deep uncertainty about the things
she was telling me. I'll give you a little snippet. I don't know if you guys remember
the episode. I can't remember which episode it was when we compared our drawings. Do you
guys remember that? When Sammy showed her beautiful horse.
I think I know what you're going to say.
And then I showed my horse, which looked kind of like a tropical bird drawn by like a three When Sammy showed her beautiful horse. I think I know what you're going to say. I'm already disagree.
I showed my horse, which looked kind of like a tropical bird drawn by like a three-year-old.
And she told me one of the things, she told me a lot of things.
One of the things Wendy told me is that I need to be drawing.
She said I need to have sketchbooks all over the house.
Those were her words, sketchbooks everywhere, sketchbooks in every corner, every nook and cranny filled with a sketchbook.
There's so many sketchbooks, hundreds of sketchbooks.
I know that you're presenting this as like,
I think you think some sort of proof
that she's full of shit, but I 100% agree.
When we did the artful bachelorette
for Emily's bachelorette party.
You were so good.
I loved all of your drawings.
Yes. And you were so stressed about them. And I was like, Henley, these are so good. for Emily's bachelorette party. I loved all of your drawings
and you were so stressed about them.
And I was like, Henley, these are so good.
I love them so much.
And I'm sorry, you're leading with that.
She told you you should have sketchbooks,
but let me tell you why you're wrong.
Because what she was telling you is
that you are a deeply creative, like genius level person.
And what you ought to be doing
is giving yourself outlets for that.
And so that is what she was actually saying.
And that is 100% fucking true.
And the more you try to deny it,
the angrier I will become.
It was funny.
I want to relist,
cause she records it and then sends it to you.
And I want to relisten to it
because she did throughout the session go,
like talk about me not wanting to
accept certain things and she was so she was so firm she was like stop that stop it stop that
I called her beforehand and I said yell at Henley.
She also like didn't go for real though she real though. She was like, stop it, stop it.
Like throughout the whole thing.
I was like, okay, I'm sorry.
Wow.
And here you are, not stopping it.
She, yeah, she also didn't,
I was expecting her to go into like a trance
because that's what the lady who did the guiding light lady.
She didn't do that.
It was just a conversation.
We were just chatting.
And I think that also kind of made it feel weird to me too.
Cause I didn't really say that much,
but she was like, we were talking more.
It wasn't like she was just stream of consciousness.
So that also was kind of unexpected.
Right, like shouldn't you be channeling
the spirits right now?
Yeah, exactly.
Why are we talking?
You're channeling.
She was just channeling you.
She was looking at you and seeing everything.
She kept saying, look at my third eye,
look at my third eye.
She was trying to get me to look at her third eye.
And so I was doing a lot of that.
The whole time you were like.
Like when you try to get an animal to like look at you.
Where is it?
They're like.
You just stared her boobs the whole time.
My third eye's up here.
No, look at my third eye.
Look at my third eye.
Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
That was the main, there were a lot.
She did tell you you should be writing more.
And she scolded you for not writing
because you're a genius, incredible writer.
The thing is like, how would she know that, Henley?
I know, but part of me is like, everyone's a writer.
If everyone's a genius writer.
If someone talked to me and they were like,
why aren't you writing more?
I'd be like, since when have I ever written
what's wrong with you? Joel made the good talked to me and they were like, why aren't you writing more? I'd be like, since when have I ever written, what's wrong with you?
Joel made the good point too, that he was like,
even if this woman's a total fraud, which she's not,
and like Googled Henley and like read her writing,
and then went to Henley and was like,
why aren't you writing more?
Like that would still be more proof
that you should be writing more, you know?
Yeah, I guess, I guess, but I, yes, yes.
No, I do, she said some things that she couldn't
have known. And those are private things that I will not be sharing on this public forum.
No, those are for you. Those are for you.
So I do-
And also for us later, right?
And for you later.
Okay.
But I, so I do believe, I do believe, I do believe that also, I also am, William was like, she can be radically wrong about some stuff.
He texted me, he was like, she can be way off base about certain things.
So that also makes it confusing because she told William some things that ended up being
true that it's insane that she knew that.
But she also said some things that were wildly untrue.
So it's just, it's a mixed bag.
But Wendy, I love you.
She called me an angel.
She sent me a message saying you're an angel
with lots of angel emojis afterwards.
And I was like, you make me feel good,
Wendy and I fucking love you and you're my angel.
So, but I need to hear about your, you guys tell me.
Just sticking on Wendy for one second,
cause Emily and I, as soon as you said it, we went to the website and
it was like booked until 2027. And so we both put our names on the wait list. And just the other day
got an email that the books for 2027 were open. And so Emily and I both have appointments now for
late for Q4, 2026.
Q4, 2026.
And I've wanted to see Wendy for years.
I checked later in the day and all of 2027 was booked up.
I'm sure those slides went really fast.
She booked up a year in a day.
It's also crazy to just be like,
I just like picked a date at the end of 2026.
And I was like, I don't know, I'll make myself available.
Also, I made myself available. I made everyone leave the house. Like it was not a convenient time for anyone. And I was like, I don't know, I'll make myself available. Also, I made myself available.
I made everyone leave the house.
It was not a convenient time for anyone.
And I was like, Tim, you're taking the kids
and you're leaving the house.
Yeah, I've been waiting two years for this.
It doesn't work for anyone,
but everyone's leaving the house and no one can come in.
The other thing she said was right away,
she was like, she told me that I'm giving big mommy energy,
which is like, to be fair,
there's like a diaper pail behind me.
But then she was also like, and also you pretend like you seem like you're normal, but you're
really kooky and weird. You're so kooky and weird. You're such a kook. She like kept saying
that over and that was like in the first like very beginning. And I was like, I hadn't said
anything yet. I was like, you kooky girl, kooky big mommy energy. She got a lot right
away. Wow. Wendy, she knows her energy. She got a lot right away.
Wow, Wendy, she knows her shit?
She knows her shit.
All right, who's gonna tell me, who's gonna tell me?
Who's gonna tell me?
I'll go next, because mine's not super exciting,
but I did a...
It was my gift to you.
I was gonna say this is rude.
I didn't mean it in a rude way.
Just like I...
I thought I did.
Henley got me a gift
certificate to have a Reiki session and it was via zoom, which goes against what I normally
think about as Reiki, but honestly it was great. And the scary slash funny thing about
it was in the beginning, you know, you set your intention,
you kind of talk about like, okay, what are your goals for this session?
Let's decide.
And I was like, you know, I'd really like some releasing some, some fear and anxieties.
I need some like grounding.
I need to release like fear about current events, like what's happening in the world, I'd like to let go of some of that and just feel more like slow down and be more grounded.
She's like, okay, great, I love that, I love that.
So it begins with a, she puts on some nice music
and then is leading you through a guided meditation,
essentially like first, you know,
breathe in for three, whatever, out through your nose
and she starts saying like,
feel your anxieties draining from your body
into the earth below, the earth is absorbing
all of your fear.
You don't have to think about Donald Trump anymore.
You don't have to think about the wars that are happening.
And all the time you're like,
oh, you just made me think about Donald Trump and the wars.
And she kept saying it.
I was like, actually, this is not helping me not think about this.
I'm getting pretty stressed because you reminded me.
You're like, I don't want to poison the earth anymore
than we've been poisoning it.
I know, I was thinking it was like,
oh God, no, I'll take it.
Stop putting my feet into the earth.
I'll take it from the earth.
The earth is having a really hard time.
So that was pretty funny.
And then I was doing it in my house
and I was laying in my bed
because that seemed like the comfiest spot,
had some headphones on, and then my neighbors were just being so loud and I feel like they were doing a drug deal.
What? Why?
Just like, just giving each other weed. It was like, he was like,
your special package, I left it by your back door, like yelling it. And I was like,
is Kiki going to hear this and call the police?
It just distracted me momentarily.
But then I worked with it and thought,
you know, we're all here on this planet together.
Some of us are doing drug deals.
Some of us are smoking weed.
Some of us are getting a Reiki session.
Yeah, exactly.
A Zoom Reiki session.
And it was really nice.
By the end of it, I was very relaxed and felt light as air.
And I haven't thought about Donald Trump or the war since.
What?
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
I've never done Reiki.
I've wanted to do it for so long.
I mean, that's why I got you that session.
It was great.
It's what I wanted.
It was really lovely.
Thank you, Henley.
Yeah.
Next time it'll be in person. I mean,
it worked pretty well over the zoom. I gotta say better than I expected. So, Emily, did
you do pet astrology? I did. I did a pet psychic gift from Sammy. Okay. Um, 30 minute phone
call pet psychic session with Laura, the original pet.ic. Oh, fuck yeah, she started it.
That is her tagline.
I did it for Mabel because Mabel is the one of two
loves of my life.
And it, you know, my biggest takeaway from it was like,
I don't know, I don't know what about it is real or not real,
but to sit and speak with someone
who believes unequivocally that it's real
and is telling you these things
that she's certain are real and happening
is such a fascinating experience.
And it is like, I do love tapping into that part of myself
that just goes like, sure.
You know, like why not?
Literally why not?
It can't hurt.
And so, okay, so a? Literally why not? It can't hurt. And like, so, okay.
So a couple of things that she told me,
I'll just, I'll do the biggest takeaways.
I mean, Mabel's happy, Mabel,
Mabel really likes it when daddy,
she really likes that daddy really encourages
and supports mommy.
Oh, wow.
And that we have a good energy in our house.
I mean, that's true.
Yeah, it was really sweet.
Undeniable.
She at one point said,
okay, so a years ago before Joel and I lived together
when it was just him and the other three cats,
I gifted him a friend of ours, this an artist,
and I had her like paint this like collage
of the three cats hanging on our wall.
And at one point in the reading,
again, phone, not Zoom,
she was like,
Mabel's saying she thinks it'd be nice to have a collage
or something of like everybody,
that like a collage that has like everybody in it.
Do you know what that means?
And I was like,
we do have a collage that doesn't include her.
And maybe she's like,
I think it'd be nice if we had like, a sort of collage for like everybody.
Like everybody was in some sort of collage.
Which was really funny.
Do you think she's pissed she's not in the collage?
I think she may be pissed she's not in the collage.
Fair Mabel, I would be upset too.
I know, I know.
And then the other thing that she said was that,
cause she's like talking to Mabel basically,
and then like relays it back to me.
And so I heard she was talking to Mabel
and I heard her say like,
well, maybe mommy can show you a video or something.
Later she was like, Mabel really, really,
one thing she meant she really wants to see the ocean.
And so I said that like,
maybe you could show her a video of the ocean.
And I was like, okay, yeah.
And Joel and I were really laughing afterwards
cause we were like, how would people even know
what the ocean is?
Maybe she's seen it on the TV before.
That night she got on my lap,
well, or it could be like a past life thing.
Like, I don't know.
She got on my lap that night and Joel was making dinner
and I was sitting at my desk with her,
just hanging out and she got on my lap.
And so I like pulled up a YouTube video
of just like waves crashing on the ocean.
She fucking watched it and started purring immediately.
Oh, she did wanna see the ocean.
That's really sweet.
So I was like, you wanted to see the ocean?
So my biggest takeaway is maybe all of it
is complete bullshit, but on the chance that it's not
and it could like make my girl happier,
why not like play her videos in the ocean
and get a collage, you know?
Oh, that's so cute.
Oh my God, in the meantime, you gotta cut Mabel
out of a photograph and just stick it
next to the collage.
To put her in there.
Yeah.
I know.
And she did say that we should explain,
talk to our cats, like their children,
and do more explaining to them of what's going on.
When, if you have to go out of town for the weekend, tell them what's going on. If one of the cats is sick, explain to them of what's going on. When like, if you have to go out of town for the weekend,
like tell them like what's going on.
If one of the cats is sick, explain to them,
like this is what's happening.
So we've also been doing a lot more of that
with all of our cats.
It's so funny, Birdie's getting medicine right now
because she has pancreatitis.
She's fine, but she just gets her medicine
like immediately the next day.
I heard Joanne and I had done the same thing,
like talking to Birdie and telling her,
like, I'm just giving you medicine and it's going to make you feel better.
And we both just started doing that.
So cute.
Anyway, it was really sweet and really funny and just fascinating.
This is this woman's whole deal.
She's like relationship building, you know?
Yeah.
Between you and your pets.
And of course, we immediately were like,
well, we need to do this with all of our cats
because it's fascinating.
Maybe it's wildly different in each of those brains.
I need to know.
Yeah, I want to do it with my cats now too.
Yeah, Sammy, you need to do it with Mac and Bunk.
I do.
Laura, the original pet psychic.
Great.
What do you think Bunk's thinking versus Mac?
I feel like I know, but I'd like to hear it from Laura.
You want to hear it from Laura?
You need to hear it from Laura.
Wow, what a magical, spiritual, mystical week we've had.
Really, truly.
And there's not a ton of magical,
I was really trying to think of a segue there,
and it didn't happen, you know, sometimes.
Sometimes it doesn't, it's not, it doesn't work out that way.
And that's okay.
You know what's the opposite of magical and mystical?
AI and tech.
The opposite. There you go.
There you go. There it is.
And today we are talking about Megan 2.0,
written and directed by Gerard Johnstone
based on characters by James Wan and Akilah Cooper,
starring Alison Williams, Ivana Sackno, Jenna Davis,
Amy Donald, Violet McGraw, Brian Jordan-Alvarez,
Aristotle, Athari, and Jermaine Clement.
It is in theaters right now.
Is it a different creative team than Megan 1.0?
I don't think so.
I think the director is the same.
No, it's the same people for the most part.
They chose to go in a different creative direction,
I think.
But I think that was an intentional choice
that they might now argue did not pay off.
Yeah.
Wait, Emily, did you see it?
No, I didn't see it, but I've just heard, I've been here, I would see it.
I had a good time.
I simply haven't had the time.
But yes, I did hear it got some negative reviews.
Well, it just like really underperformed
at the box office.
Yes.
Like it was a massive,
they thought it was gonna be gangbusters
cause Megan, I was gonna say one point,
just Megan, regular Megan.
Yeah.
Was like a phenomenon and this was not.
Yeah.
Some quote I have from Jason Blum, Blumhouse producer
was yeah, just like we all thought that Megan
was like super man, we could do anything to her,
we could change genres, we could put her in summer,
we could make her look different,
we could turn her from a bad guy into a good guy,
we classically over thought how powerful people's engagement was with her. So they've
kind of realized like, oops, I guess we should have wanted the same kind of Megan to kind
of what was working in the first one. That said, again, I had, I had fun and I was not
as put off by it as some other people were,
but it's definitely more of an action comedy.
And truly there's like maybe one scary moment.
So I think anybody could see this movie.
I guess there's some violence.
There's like a couple of little gory moments,
but yeah, it's more like kind of John Wick vibes
than like a horror movie vibes.
I definitely wanna see it.
Yeah.
But people do, I mean, I think that's,
some people were really upset by 28 years later
for similarly not being like scary enough.
I think that when people have an expectation about
a movie that they like think they have an association with,
and then it doesn't do what they wanted it to do,
it can be very upsetting.
It can be very upsetting.
Also, in my personal experience
as a deep bystander to this franchise.
Deep bystander.
I feel like with Megan, the first one,
I was seeing so much marketing about it
because of the TikTok videos and the Marc Jacobs collab.
I was seeing Meghan all the time.
And I feel like with this one, I haven't seen anything
and that might just be because of my own algorithm
or something.
You haven't seen the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives ad
with all of them as Meghan.
Oh my God.
Because I've seen that.
See, there you go.
I'm not the target audience.
Anyway, I was gonna say that maybe the marketing
also just didn't break through to the masses
in the way that it did the first time.
I don't think the marketing worked this time.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I kinda got lost in the sauce.
Yeah. A little bit.
Megan 2.0 has a 57% on Rotten Tomatoes,
54 on Metacritic, and a 6.3 on IMDB,
which is essentially bad for IMDB.
Yeah, 6.3.
Between six and seven? Love. That's low. Wait, do you watch the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?
No, I don't.
But I think I saw that ad,
we watched a lot of finals basketball
and I think that's the only time
I ever see like true commercials.
Emily, who are you?
You're watching finals basketball.
Joel's watching finals basketball.
Finals basketball is exciting.
I don't care who wins, who loses,
but look at them go, you know?
Look what they can do.
They can move so fast up and down the court.
They're so young and they can do so much.
But the hoop has to go higher.
The hoop has to be raised
because they're all like eight feet tall.
Now everyone who works, they're all so tall.
They're too close to the hoop.
The hoop has to go up.
They gotta put the hoop up.
Sure, yeah.
They gotta put the hoop up.
Anyway. We gotta put the hoop up. Sure. Yeah. They gotta put the hoop up. Anyway.
We gotta write a letter.
The budget was somewhere between 15 and 25 million
and so far it has made 22 million.
Okay.
So not terrible.
I think it-
Better if the budget was 15.
Yes, I think, and I don't know,
that budget probably doesn't include marketing,
but as we said, marketing wasn't great anyways.
Yeah, I think the first one worked so well
because it was obviously so new and unexpected
and like a funny little dancing robot girl.
I think people kind of thought it was gonna be like
stupid and bad and then it was.
Yeah, it was like campy.
Fun and good.
Yeah.
And campy and I think that's like,
that's a really hard formula to deliver upon.
To capture again.
A second time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like, I guess they were trying to do the whole
like Terminator to Terminator 2.
I'm like, who successfully made the bad guy a good guy?
And it's truly just, sorry, spoiler alert,
Terminator to Terminator 2. But you know, I don just, sorry, spoiler alert, Terminator 2.
But I don't think Megan 2.0 is Terminator 2, unfortunately.
No.
God, Terminator 2 is so good.
Terminator 2 is really good.
I don't have much trivia other than that the sequel
was greenlit less than two weeks after the first movie.
Again, just like the first movie was a big surprise hit.
Wait, was that also, wasn't that like a January release too?
Yeah, or like February.
Yeah, it was like, it was a.
I kind of feel like that makes a difference.
It was a Q1 release.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, a summer blockbuster is tough, man.
You gotta nail it.
If you're releasing it at the dead zone, January, February, like you have a better shot. Sure. The disaster is tough, man.
You've got to nail it.
If you're releasing it at the dead zone, January, February, you have a better shot.
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But I think we, let's just get into this recap.
Ooh, let's just get into it.
Oh wait, I have a question before we start.
It's an actress playing Megan?
Yes, I think it's two different actresses.
There's one that's doing kind of the motion capture.
That's a dancer.
And I think a different actress does the voice of Megan.
Okay, okay.
I just wanted to clarify that.
I couldn't remember how Megan was like a thing,
you know, how they meet her.
And like CGI face kind of or?
Yeah, she, or like mask, probably a combo.
Probably a combo.
Cause yeah, it looks like a, she looks like a doll.
Yeah.
It has like a little doll face look to it.
It doesn't look like a natural human face.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw the first one, but now I don't really remember.
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There is a naturally, naturally, we see a kind of femme fatale looking woman assassin sneaking through corridors,
killing guards as she goes. This is kind of like underground bunker vibes. There's clearly
some military operation or something happening down here that she's infiltrating. She is killing everyone, no problem. We're
pretty quickly suspecting that this could be some sort of android or someone with heightened
abilities, super strength. And she basically kills everyone, looks like she gets to her final target. And then we
cut to a room in like an observation deck at a military base at the lower third tells
us we're now in Palo Alto. And this is like a military operation, watching what this woman
is doing. And they look really stoked about it.
They're like, it's working.
The weapon is working.
Like this is working much better than expected.
The guy in charge here's name is Tim Sattler.
He's in a branch of the Pentagon
that's like studying AI and new technologies
and that sort of thing.
Don't give Elon Musk any ideas. Although I'm sure he already thought of this. Is this what
AI is for you guys? Are they just going to create like an army of hot super assassins?
We could get into that. I have a lot of... There's no way to know, really.
No one is telling us. There's no whistleblower, really. No one's telling us.
There's no whistleblower on the hot female robots.
No, not yet.
So everyone in this little observation room is looking very impressed.
We find out that the weapon's name is AMELIA, stands for Autonomous Military Engagement
Logistics and Inf infiltration Android. Reminder that Megan
has a three as the E and it stands for model three generative Android. They're watching
on screens as Amelia completes her mission and we see that she gets to, she like is finding
the location of someone that has been kidnapped. She successfully
locates him. Everyone's clapping like, Oh my God, she found him. And then bang, she shoots
him and kills him. Everyone scrambles what the fuck is going on. Amelia, they're trying
to talk to her over the, I don't know, some comms and she's cut the comms. She's not listening
to them. They're like, oh fuck, she's gone rogue. She's maybe sentient now and we're
not controlling her anymore. And we find out that the kidnapped person was a scientist that was being forced to make some sort of lethal
gas weapon.
And so rather than stopping that, she has killed the scientist and every other scientist
that was working it stole the gas and like used it to kill everybody.
So now Sadler, the Pentagon guy is like in deep shit.
This has really gone wrong.
Kind of worst case scenario.
Kind of worst case scenario, yeah.
Get our title, Megan, 2.0.
2.0.
Cut back to Katie, who is the little girl from the first movie that Megan, just quick refresher,
that Megan, just quick refresher, originally was programmed with the core initiative of just protecting Katie and supposed to be her friend. It was supposed to be a doll that
has the added benefit of being able to protect your kid and also help out with some parenting
stuff, but we all know how it turned out. But that was
her core programming. So now, Katie, this is two years later. She's in a therapy session.
The therapist is saying, I'm not court mandated to be your therapist anymore, but I'm still
just want to know how you're doing. And we get a nice little summary update
of the last two years.
Gemma is Alison Williams' character,
who is Katie's aunt, but de facto parent,
because Katie's parents died in a car accident.
And so Gemma, at the events of the last film,
did end up being held accountable for the deaths that
Megan caused. So she served a little bit of time in prison, but then was released and
now is advocating for stricter regulations for AI. And she's kind of turned around and
is doing a lot of like,
speaking in front of Congress and like all the dangers
of AI and how it needs to be more regulated.
And through this work, she has met another guy
that's like preaching the dangers of AI named Christian,
spelled Christian, pronounced Christian.
And he is hot.
Yeah.
Christian is fine.
Christian hot.
We see clips of Gemma speaking to an audience
saying things like you,
oh, she's also talking about just like the dangers
of smartphones in general and tech in general,
and especially on children,
because that's why she had invented Megan
was to
kind of like take over parenting duties. And now she has learned her lesson and is like,
okay, wait, actually tech shouldn't be raising our kids, we should be raising our kids.
She says smartphones are like terrible for kids, you wouldn't give your kids cocaine,
why would you give them a smartphone? And we see that because of this, Katie is getting bullied
at school, because all the other kids at school are like,
your mom's trying to take away our phones.
But Katie has also in the past two years
been taking a keto lessons, self-defense.
And so she is able to quickly and efficiently
silence her bullies, shut down her bullies
that may be posing physical threats to her.
Hell yeah, nothing stops bullying
like showing you're really good at martial arts.
We see some indications that Gemma is struggling
to be a single mom, essentially single parent.
Out of prison.
Yeah.
Out of prison and still balancing her career
with parenting.
She lives in a really nice apartment that's like decked out smart house style with like an Alexa type thing, but that can do absolutely
everything like open drawers.
Don't do that.
You go through Megan 1.0, don't do that.
I know.
And she does seem like annoyed by it.
Christiane is at her house and is using it,
and she's like, oh, I don't need an algorithm
to open a drawer for me.
And then the drawer opens,
because it recognizes her voice saying,
and she's like, oh, this is so annoying.
But why is she there?
You can just turn it off, yeah.
Christiane asks Katie what she's into at school,
what she's liking studying.
Katie says she's liking computer science.
Gemma says, no, you're really good at soccer.
I think you should be pursuing soccer.
Clearly nervous about the world of computer science
in general and kind of like not wanting her to follow
in her footsteps.
But Christian says, I think that's really great
and I'm
sure you're really good at it. And we need good people like you doing it. So we see Katie
go up to her room and she has one of those video picture frames. That's a photo of her
and her parents, her late parents. And she sits in bed with it and then presses some button
that makes all this coding come up
and we see her doing like a little coding
on this picture frame.
That she's trying to program the coding
of this picture frame to have like morality
or empathy or something,
because they've briefly discussed how
she's like still defending Megan from the first
movie and being like, she's good, she could have been good. And if we just spent more
time on the programming, her empathy and morality, we could still make it work type of thing.
So she's practicing coding, I guess, on this picture frame. Gemma walks in, she hides the
picture frame. Gemma says, are you
still, we're really going to keep secrets from each other after all we've been through.
Takes out the picture frame. It has switched back to the photo of her and her parents.
And Gemma says, I, you don't have to hide this from me. Like it's totally normal that
you miss them.
Sorry, wait, hold on. This is reminding me a little bit of something
that when we talked to Finn Wolfhard and Billy Brick,
and they were talking about making their movie
and how they would get some scripts all the time
that are like so relevant to the moment in time.
And this feels real.
And they're like, no, the routines have always dealt
with the same types of problems.
This feels deeply specific to this moment in time.
There's a lot of AI stuff coming out now.
Just having one of those picture frames that you're coding on is so specific to today,
right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How many teens out there can relate to this?
I don't know.
Tell us if you relate.
So they're having this kind of heart to heart sweet moment when Gemma realizes, oh shit,
I'm late to the pitch meeting for our company from the last movie.
She has this like small tech company that's her and a woman named Tess and a guy named
Cole.
Cole is Brian Jordan Alvarez and Tess is Jen Van Epps.
We see them at the pitch meeting, these important looking investors. They're supposed to be
demonstrating this new product and they're stalling, but Gemma's not there, so they have
to start it without her. Brian Jordan-Alvarez has on this robotic exoskeleton thing, just like
a robot suit. And he starts demonstrating its capabilities, which are super strength,
like being able to lift up really heavy weights and
side note does make me wonder when they shot this with him because that feels like that could have been
a replaceable role.
Because he had a problem thing, problematic thing.
He's a predator, yeah, he's a predator.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Yeah, a real, a real ooh.
Because I love Brian, I loved-
Yeah, just feels like-
Brian Gordy Alvarezbras. Feels like worth saying.
Yeah.
And then he was accused of sexual assaults, I think, by one of his old friends that they
shot like a short film.
I knew something happened, but I didn't know it was that.
Yikes. Yeah, maybe they shot this earlier or maybe they just didn't care because sometimes
that happens too.
I think more...
That's true. A lot of times they don't care.
I mean, a lot of times Diddy, Donald Trump, they don't care.
They don't care.
Yeah.
Bad pit.
Unfortunately.
Bad pit.
But we're not here to talk about that.
We're here to have fun.
But what's his character name?
Cole?
Cole.
Let's call him Cole.
We'll call him Cole.
I will say, he was in the first one.
He was in the first one, but it's like no one's coming back for him Cole. We'll call him Cole. I will say, wasn't he in the, he was in the first one. He was in the first one, but it's like,
no one's coming back for more Cole, you know?
I could have been any fucking guy.
Where's the original Cole?
People are absolutely rioting.
So he's demonstrating how strong it is,
and the reason why they have invented this suit thing
is basically as a answer to developing AI and robotics
and how humans are gonna lose jobs to robots.
But like, what if they were just as strong and efficient
as robots and
didn't get tired as easily because this is also not using your own muscle strength, so
it's not tiring in the way that physical labor usually is. So it's like, now we can compete
with robots.
Oh my God, these Patrick solutions. That's so funny. It's so accurate though in terms
of humans being goldfish, in terms of being being like we'll just solve the problem right in front of us.
Like we're not going to think holistically. They'll just solve the problem we see right here.
That just reminds me too it's different. But Joel told me recently that there's um, allowed. And it's like a physical competition
where it's like, take as many steroids as you want
and we'll just see what happens.
For some reason that really scares me.
And I feel like-
It's absolutely horrifying.
You're signing so many waivers.
What do you think they do?
I feel like someone's going to-
Don't we kind of want to see?
Actually explode.
Oh, so many people will.
Probably multiple people will explode. It's going to be like the monkey. They're to see? Actually explode. Oh, so many people will. Probably multiple people will explode.
It's going to be like the monkey.
Like they're going to comically explode.
They're called the enhanced games.
That's like a Simpsons episode.
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There's a lot of them honestly.
I don't know what they are, but there's, I think,
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Wow, that's really funny.
Anything goes at this one.
Anything goes.
Do whatever you want.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean, just wait till this robotic exoskeleton hits the market.
Yeah.
And everyone's going to be wearing one of those and performing enhanced drugs.
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We don't need to push more boundaries.
We don't need to.
Yeah, right.
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So this demonstration seems to be going pretty well.
The investor is impressed until they're explaining how it works.
And it's basically like any motion that you do, the suit follows the motion with like
100 times strength or whatever. And as Cole is
doing this, he like points to the investor and the suit takes over and accidentally punches
the investor in the face. Yeah, because of course. Oops. And that's the moment Gemma
walks in just in time to see it all fall apart. Investors storm out really upset and they're all kind of debriefing like,
fuck, we really need this, we're running out of money.
Insane that they did not see the potential
ill implications of this suit, absolutely insane.
And they really need a win after their last invention
killed some people and a dog apparently.
Sure.
And at this moment in comes Jermaine Clement.
This character's name is Alton Appleton.
He has billionaire vibes.
He's in a wheelchair and dressed like very,
like in a fancy rich suit.
Like flamboyantly wealthy?
Yes, with like an ascot type thing.
This is the guy who played the crab in Moana.
That's correct.
Among other things.
Yeah, but he's most famous for the crab.
He played the cockatoo in Rio.
Oh yeah, most known for his animal voice.
He's good, he came into,
when I worked at a trailer place, he came in,
it was while Rio too, we were
doing the campaign for that and he came in to record some VO and it was really, really
funny because he had just come from New Zealand and so he was so jet-lagged and tired.
So he came in and we're like, okay, you go into the booth.
He was just like, oh my gosh, I'm so tired, I'm so tired.
We're like, okay, say this line now and he'd have to be like, Robert is in it.
I'm the man, why?
Why Robert Perry, why?
Oh, that was good, Em.
Thank you, thank you so much. In between takes, he was like, Robert is in it. I'm the man, why? Yeah. And like in between.
Why Robert Perry, why?
In between takes.
Oh, that was good, Em.
Thank you, Em, thank you so much.
In between takes he was just like,
oh my gosh, I fucking changed it.
Acting, man.
Oh, it was really funny seeing him turn it on.
He loved to see it.
He loved to see it.
So Alton Appleton is some sort of tech billionaire.
We see he has a little metal chip on the side of his head
and he clearly knows Gemma and her team
and he's kind of trying to recruit them into something
or maybe buy them.
And he's like, have you thought more about our deal?
Like I'd love for us to work together.
Gemma's rolling her eyes like, oh Alton, no, we said no,
we're not gonna team up with you,
your company is evil and doing all the bad tech stuff
that I don't approve of.
And I haven't even seen any evidence
that your neurochip is effective in any way.
And he gives her a little smirk
and he stands up out of his wheelchair and turns out that this
neurochip has given him the ability to walk again. So it's having some positive effects and she is
taken aback by this. She's surprised, eating her words a bit. And he kind of turns to leave and says,
you know, I know you guys are broke
and I know you need to win.
Call me when you're ready, when you need money.
So they're kind of like, shit, he's right.
We cut to a back to Amelia.
We're in a hotel room all of a sudden
and see a business looking guy putting a suitcase
on the hotel room bed.
And as he goes to the bathroom to freshen up,
out of the suitcase comes a slender arm.
And then the arm is not connected to any body
and it like turns around and pulls out a leg.
And we see just the pieces of Amelia
have been deconstructed inside of this suitcase.
And this is how she's like snuck into the room
and she puts herself back together,
goes into the bathroom, snaps this guy's neck.
We don't know who this is.
She snaps it like 180 degrees so easily. She's so strong. Back at Gemma and Katie's home,
they're going to bed. Gemma's in bed when the TV turns on and she's confused how that happened.
She grabs the remote and then it changes to a channel
where the person says, don't turn off the TV.
We're trying to get your attention.
And then it changes channels again to a like 50s movie
that says, you're in danger.
So Gemma's freaked out.
Things in the house, the smart house are like alerting her to follow them
like following these lights or something. And she goes downstairs and sees out the window.
There are a bunch of men like dressed in all black with flashlights like trying to enter
the house. A bunch of them. Why so many? Why so many?
We all wanna know.
And she grabs the phone, quietly dials 911.
Feels like the house should have done that.
Feels like the house should have done that.
Good point.
It can turn channels in time for dialogue.
It knows what's on, yeah,
but it should have also called 911.
It's called 911 too.
And she thinks she's speaking to a 911 operator
when the operator starts laughing at her.
Oh no. It's like,
oh, people are trying to break in your house, ha ha ha.
And then the voice changes to Megan's voice
and she says surprise or something like that.
And Gemma's shocked what is going on
and kind of slowly realizing that Meghan has put a copy
of her, I don't know, self into the smart home.
So Meghan is able to control.
Oh, which they sort of hinted out at the end of Meghan.
Yes, yes, yes, that's right.
So she's been laying low, laying dormant.
Got it, yep, yep.
But at this moment, she is able to talk to Gemma through the phone and also control anything
in the house that is controllable by the smart home.
So these guys get in and Megan, through controlling the house is like tripping them with drawers
and making things like fly out of cupboards.
And I can't remember what else but really beaten these guys with just household items.
Wow.
So she was dormant just in time to defend her.
Yeah.
This is not her doing an offensive.
She's protecting now Terminator 2 style.
So was the smart frame reprogramming her
to have empathy through the smart house?
You know.
Is that the implication?
No, but I will say that there's so much tech and AI talk
that I was having a hard time following a lot of the things.
And I was like, I guess this is happening now.
I don't really know. But no, that's guess this is happening now. I don't really know.
But no, that's not what is happening, I don't think.
But who's to really say, you know?
Yeah, who's to say?
It's kind of like how I felt watching F1
where I was like, I don't know how this racing stuff works,
but I'm just gonna go with it.
Sure, yeah, you said some things and I'll go, all right.
You seem happy, you seem sad.
I don't know anything about coding,
AI intelligence and morality.
So I guess I'll take your word for it.
I will say that I think the people who are doing it
are stupid and bad.
So I think that we shouldn't feel like intimidated by it.
Correct.
Well, they're definitely bad.
And stupid.
And stupid in some ways, yeah.
And bad.
Yeah, and definitely bad.
A bad rabbit hole to go down.
Okay, so yeah, Megan through these smart house abilities
is able to kind of stop these guys
and Gemma confronts one of them.
It says like, I'm gonna call the police or something,
and they say, we are the police,
and we see they have a FBI badge
and cut to like them all talking in the kitchen.
Katie's woken up and is downstairs, of course.
And we see it's Sattler, the guy from the opening
that is saying,
do you want to tell us something about Amelia confronting Gemma
as if Gemma will have something to do with it?
Gemma seems genuinely very confused.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And Sattler like puts down this file on the table,
Amelia's file and says, there is a sentient android
that we had been using that has since gone rogue,
and she was built using the same blueprints as Megan.
And so because she's out of our control now,
you must have given her blueprints
to a foreign government and like.
Really taking leaps here.
Yeah.
This is again where I'm like trying like, okay,
I don't know but Gemma is under suspicion of treason
for potentially selling Megan's blueprints
to a foreign government which they've,
maybe they don't know that she's sentient now,
they just think she's being controlled by somebody else
or something and Gemma is under suspicion
and Gemma says, I don't know what to tell you,
Megan like almost killed me and like put everybody
I love in danger, I would never do that.
I burned the plans, I don't know how they got them,
but I have nothing to do with it.
They're like, okay, well, we'll leave you for now,
but this isn't over, okay?
This is sort of standard FBI practice
breaking into your house in the middle of the night.
Yeah, I know, in the middle of the night with so many guys.
It's very strange.
Gemma sent Katie up to bed
and is not letting her in on this stuff. And we see Gemma talking to Megan again
through the TVs. She's like kind of able to show up digitally wherever there's a screen.
And so they're able to have a conversation where Megan says, I know about Amelia,
conversation where Megan says, I know about Amelia and you need my help if you want any chance of stopping her. But in order for me to do that, I need a body. I can't do that
from this house. And Gemma says, absolutely not. You tried to kill me last time. That's
not happening again. Megan says, I was upset and I was a child.
It's been two years and AI grows faster than humans and so I'm like a lot more mature and
cool now.
And Gemma is still very resistant says no, I can't do this." And Megan tells her, I've run through every single option that you have,
and all of them just end with more people dying the longer you hold out on this,
because I'm the only thing that can help. So basically, the longer you wait to do it,
the more people will die. And Gemma is like, okay, all right, fuck. So she starts off by putting
her in a funny little small robot Teletubby looking thing that doesn't have legs, plastic
is like little flippers, essentially, something that she can't really harm anybody in. And she takes
her to the office to bring Tess into this conversation. She has made Megan swear to
not bring Katie into this. She wants to protect her from it. Megan's like upset that she's
in this little body. And she's like, prove you can be trusted and we'll talk about it.
Like we need to trust you before we build you another body. They bring out Amelia's file, which I guess the FBI
guys just gave to Gemma. And Megan is looking through them. And we see that Amelia's battery This battery is made by Alton Alderton's company, Appleton.
All the batteries that he produces have a kill switch that they know about, but it has
to be activated through his servers.
So they're like, okay, he's having a fundraiser.
We got to go to this fundraiser and you can dress like sexy and seduce him
so that you can get up to his room where there will be access to the like thing that we need.
And Gemma reluctantly agrees.
Sometimes a woman has to use the tools of her disposal.
And this is just what it is.
This is what it is to be a woman in the world is sometimes you got to dress sexy and seduce
the bad guy. Sometimes.
We've seen it a million times and it's always correct.
We'll see it a million more.
She sees that Cole is there at this fundraiser
and she feels betrayed,
because this is like a company
that they are competitors with
and also like morally opposed to.
Cole reveals that they've offered him a job with more money
because you know, their company's not doing great.
And he's like, sorry, I don't know what you want me to do,
but we're not making money.
She doesn't have time to really get into that right now,
but she sees that they have given him a badge,
like an access swipe card type thing.
And she's like, great, don't have to seduce Alton.
They go off on their own path
and just go straight to like the server room,
plug Megan into it.
And then we cut back to the main like floor
of the party fundraiser.
And we see Amelia looking very sexy.
She's had the same idea, works every time.
Yeah, sometimes a woman has to just use the taste of her disposal. She's had the same idea. Works every time. Yeah.
Sometimes a woman has to just use the taste of her disposal.
It's like every episode of Alias.
Oh, yeah.
Jennifer Turner.
I love that show.
Me too.
Alton is immediately powerless against Amelia's good looks and takes her up to his room. He is trying to kiss her, trying to show off,
like, oh my God, look how rich I am,
look at my beautiful view.
And she's like, my vagina's metal.
I have no vagina.
Be crazy if they put a vagina in there.
Why would there be one?
Why would there be one?
But maybe.
Well, well.
He says like most of his money comes from cloud computing and he's like, let me show
you how much power I have with the cloud computing.
I feel like I'm doing such a bad job explaining this because it's like, I don't know.
It's working for me.
I don't know.
This is essentially the level of detail I think that they give.
And I'm just like, I guess sure.
The cloud computing. Let's see what you can do with
the cloud computing.
And he types something into a typewriter.
Do do do.
A typewriter?
Not a typewriter.
That would be very funny.
It's not connected to a single thing.
No, it's a computer.
And he types something in and you see through the window,
all the lights in the city going out.
So he like has control over the whole city.
It's very powerful.
And Amelia, crazy to do that just to get laid.
Too much.
Turn power off for a whole city.
Yeah. I wouldn't like that.
Sometimes men just need to use the tools
that they're supposed to.
Yeah, that's true.
Yes.
But we don't, just to be clear, women don't like that tool.
So if you're thinking as a man, oh, I need that tool.
We don't like it.
Power over a whole city.
We don't want it?
Yeah, we don't like it.
We don't like that.
We're not interested.
But Amelia does kind of like it.
She wants it.
And so she-
Her vagina's metal.
She's metal.
She quickly kills Alton by a spine rip like Predator.
Spine rips are hot right now.
Spine rips are back.
Spine rips are back.
And so that's one of the-
Would it just come all the way out?
I mean, I guess.
The neurochip is like connected to it.
So I don't know, maybe that reinforces it.
I just mean like generally speaking.
Oh yeah.
Would it all just come out?
Only one way to find out?
Oh my gosh.
I don't know, did they do a MythBusters on that one?
I wonder if they did a MythBusters on spine ripping.
It feels like if you disconnected it from the tailbone,
then the vertebrae would probably stick together, right?
Right, and if you just ripped it hard enough from the top.
That's where she rips from.
The thing is you got it disconnected
at the bottom though too.
But nobody, they never disconnected first,
they just grab and pull.
That's my question, I don't know where,
they need to do a MythBusters on this,
because where's the point of pressure, you know?
We gotta know.
I don't know.
How would they do a MythBusters?
They would have to build human bodies.
I mean, this is the kind of gauntlet MythBusters
wants to be thrown at them.
They want this kind of challenge.
Because also what's crazy is you grab it
from outside the skin, obviously.
You gotta get your fingers in there.
Then you pull it all up out,
and it comes outside the skin.
Unfortunately, it'd be easy for me
because I've got like a really, really pronounced.
Top vertebra.
Like back here, it's like,
I'm like a little mini dinosaur back here.
It's like.
Just begging to be ripped out.
Just like, pull my spine out, pull it out.
A lot of times it's like the head's attached still.
Oh, you get the skull too?
I mean, Predator gets the skull.
That's a good point.
The skull is included.
I didn't see if she got the skull.
But they grab from the neck, Predator does.
And 28 years later, they definitely get the head, yeah.
Yeah.
Hmm, MythBusters.
Then it's just gonna be like a full neck.
We need you.
It's not like a spine, it's the whole thing, you know?
Well, yeah, it's head, neck, spine.
But how do you get the spine?
It's like the tablecloth trick.
Like you just pull fast enough that it doesn't disturb
anything else.
Fast enough that everything else just slips away.
Just slips away.
Yep.
One time I ate a slice of pizza.
I've told you the story before, right?
And I took one bite of, it was pepperoni pizza.
I took one bite of it and all the cheese came off
and all the pepperoni stayed on.
And I laughed for I think 20 minutes
just about how I tablecloth-tricked my pizza.
It was truly unbelievable. Were other people laughing? 20 minutes just about how a tablecloth tricked my pizza.
It was truly unbelievable.
Were other people laughing? No, it was just me.
I wasn't with anybody.
That's the kind of thing that if it happens to you alone,
you almost want to be like,
I like who do I show this to?
Did I tell you guys?
I got word on the first try the other day.
That happened to me once. Wow. I got word on the first try the other day.
That happened to me once.
Wow.
I got word on the first try and I didn't know what to do.
And I didn't tell, I didn't do anything.
I was like, there's nothing to do.
This is why we need community.
Yep.
There's nothing to do.
It's just me against the world now telling everyone
it happened to me.
Like no one will believe me.
Well, did you take a screen grab?
Cause I feel like that's what people do.
I don't think I even took a screen grab.
I told him immediately.
I told him immediately. I must have taken a screen grab, but feel like that's what people do. I don't think I even took a screen grab. I told him immediately. I told him immediately.
I must have taken a screen grab, but did I even take, I feel like I was so shocked. I like exited
out. I was like, I was like, genuinely though, I think there's no evidence of it. I believe you.
It did happen. I believe you. It did happen.
I believe you.
It did happen.
And I would like to say I'm really good at Wordle.
And sometimes I am and sometimes I'm really not.
I tried to do it in front of Salas the other day,
like show him Wordle.
I was like, this is Wordle.
Look how good your mom is at Wordle.
And I was immediately like stumped.
Oh my God.
I was humiliating.
He told everyone.
Yeah, that he's going to remember that for the rest of his life.
I mean, honestly, like, kind of.
It's embedded in there somewhere.
Like, my mom isn't actually good at this stuff.
Yeah, but she really wanted me to know that she was.
It's that part of it that you're like, going to remember.
Humiliating.
It really makes it sting.
Yeah.
It's okay.
So we see that Gemma and Megan are in the server room.
Megan is trying to access Amelia's coding
to kill switch the battery.
You know how all this stuff works.
I don't have to get too deep into it.
And she sees that Amelia has already disabled
her kill switch.
Uh-oh. Sure.
But she says, like, I found something else.
But as she does, Amelia, like,
seems like she's sensing something
and turns and looks right at the security camera
that they're watching her through.
And so they quickly unplug Megan from the server
because otherwise she's vulnerable, obviously.
But exactly, exactly.
So Megan says she found something else,
but we don't have time to talk about it right now.
We've got to get out of here because now Amelia knows that we're here.
She's coming for us.
And Amelia almost gets like catches them.
But Megan is able to hack into some walkie talkies of some people at the party and say,
Gemma has already left the building because she's being in pursuit
by the FBI again also. So Amelia hears this and leaves thinking that she's going to follow
Gemma. But pretty quickly, they're also like, oh, well, she's going to go to your house
where Katie is.
Right, right. That's not good.
That'll probably be the first place she checks. So
we should probably try to get there before she gets there. So they steal one of Alton's
very fast sports cars to drive home as quick as possible. They're getting in the 200 miles
per hour zone. Whoa. Whoa. And Gemma is trying to tell me I'm going to slow down. She says
like I actually can't or we're not going to beat her there. Like this is according to
my calculations speed that we have to go. So they get there just in time. Amelia arrives
like moments after and Megan still in the little Teletubby plastic doll thing is like
distracting her for a moment and Tess and Gemma are inside checking
on Katie. They're like, are you okay? Katie doesn't know what's going on. But then the
we see Amelia breaks the little Megan Teletubby, stomps, smashes it and then hacks into the
robot exoskeleton that is in for some some reason, being stored in Gemma's house
and uses that to attack Tess.
Katie grabs a cup of water and throws it on the exoskeleton
and stops it.
I just have to say right here, like, it would have made
so much more sense for Gemma to be, like, living in the woods
for having a Henry David Thoreau moment,
going apart from the world,
and having all this still happen to her,
but somehow deep in the woods.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Her living in a smart house just feels like to-
She shouldn't do that.
She shouldn't do it.
Just immediately why?
Yeah.
Well, it feels like the first thing her detractors
would use to like invalidate every argument she's ever made
is be like, okay, but like you live in a smart house.
No, I will say there is a little bit of maybe a reason why.
And she does mention at one point that the rent
is like crazy Jeep.
And I think Megan might've been pulling some strings
behind the
scenes to make this house be the most like financially appropriate decision.
Sure. Great. I just needed something. Yeah, I forgot about that. But yeah,
there was a little a little explanation there. But so Amelia is still coming for
them. They've stopped to the exoskeleton, but she's like right outside. So she's
gonna come in. So they're like, fuck, fuck, fuck. What do we do? And a secret trap door opens
that they have not seen before. Gemma knows obviously Megan is operating the smart house.
So she's like, I guess we do whatever Megan, whatever this is, because Megan wants us to
do this. So they go into this door and there's like a secret bunker down there. That looks like it has enough supplies to live
for years and years down there.
Megan has been really busy building this like doomsday bunker.
Without a body.
I'm not gonna get into it.
It does, it does.
One moment, we'll get there. Ah, she can order deliveries. Anyway, you'll get into it. It does, it does. One moment, we'll get there.
Ah!
But she-
She can order deliveries.
Anyway, you'll get into it.
Yeah, yeah.
She is speaking to them, I think, again,
through like a TV screen and is saying, you know,
welcome everybody, like this is where we live now
because the AI or Amelia is gonna like
be the end of the world.
And so I've been preparing
and I have clothes and food for all of us.
Oh God.
This is also the first time Katie is seeing
that Megan still exists.
So this is obviously very shocking for Katie.
She's really angry at Gemma
because she can see that Gemma has been
dealing with this already.
She says, you said there was no secrets between us.
She storms like that.
Yeah, no from you because you're a kid.
Right. Right.
I can have secrets because I haven't at all. That's obvious.
And she storms down, Katie storms down this little hallway. We don't know where it goes.
Gemma tries to follow her and then a door like slams, locks. So Katie is now in this little side room of the bunker
that has been meticulously decorated
to look like her bedroom.
And in rolls a very dilapidated looking,
rusty, broken robot.
And it's like Megan's remains from, I can't really remember how she was
killed in the last one, but maybe broken apart and set on fire. And so she's not looking great,
but she does have her old body somehow. And yeah, I guess has been ordering things and doing home renovations
somehow. Okay.
Okay. Which like I really, you know, we all went through COVID. I've been ordering so many things,
doing so many home renovations and what's my body, but just a broken down, burnt pile of bones.
Tan? So tan. But really tan.
They have a little heart to heart and Katie's like,
why'd you do all those bad things
before we were best friends and I needed just a friend.
Megan is apologizing and saying I,
my like core programming needed more clarity.
My mission was to protect you and I did that
But I think I want to be able to be in your life again
And I think with just a little more little tweaks like we can make it happen
so Katie and Megan go out to the rest of the group and
Katie like makes the case for like everybody deserves a second chance. I think
Megan has proved that she
wants to help us. She's been helping us. And so I think we should give her a second chance.
So we're gonna do it. We're building a body for Megan.
I mean, at this point, sure.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, I guess. Uh, yeah, you know.
They're gonna make her taller.
They're gonna make her faster, stronger.
We are still gonna put her in a little khaki dress.
Yes, they do say, like, we should change her face,
because she's the most famous killer robot in the world.
And Megan says, change my face, I'll change yours or whatever. So she looks the same.
She's threatening you, so let's just keep that in mind.
She's still sassy, but not acting on her.
Sure.
Wait, so what's the message of the film?
We'll get there. We'll get there.
Oh, boy. Because I. Okay. Oh boy.
Because I have some problems with that.
If you can believe it.
But we're building her, training her, training montage.
She's faster, stronger than ever.
And Gemma does add a chip piece of programming thing so that she can't kill people.
Megan seems a little...
Just like empathy in capital letters. Like, empathy. Annoyed by that. It's like, literally you can't kill people. Megan seems a little- Just like empathy in capital letters, like empathy.
Annoyed by that.
It's like, literally you can't murder anyone.
And Jem is like, which is no problem, right?
Cause you weren't gonna kill anybody, were you?
You weren't planning on killing anybody.
And Megan's like, no, of course not.
Pretty funny that there's just like a switch you can flip
that's like, and then you don't murder anybody.
And we didn't think to do that before.
And I mean, I guess like, sure,
if you didn't expect it would happen, but.
I like the idea of it being connected
to the Final Destination franchise where it's like,
I can't kill anyone technically,
but I can like do crazy shit to like make sure they die.
And like. It's true.
There are a lot of loopholes to I can't murder.
Yeah, you just have to get creative.
You get really creative.
Yeah. You're never gonna get as creative as death, you just have to get creative. You get really creative. Yeah.
You're never gonna get as creative as death,
I'll tell you that much.
So now Megan and her new body
and her new same old sassy suit, sassy dress style.
What did you call it?
We love, I would call it a pinafore, actually.
I would call it a pinafore.
It looks like a school uniform.
It does.
It's, you know, we're looking at it in Sammy's background.
It's a pleated skirt with a belt.
Drop waist belted.
Drop waist, tights, long sleeves.
Is that a tiny little heel, I see?
Little kitten heel?
Yeah, little kitten heel.
And like the thickest tights I've ever seen.
Look, she's going to be, I mean, she needs to be covered
because I think she's going to be doing some upside down kind of...
Upside down stuff.
Some upside down stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
So...
They're debriefing, making a plan.
Okay, what are we going to do?
Megan says that that thing that she found in Amelia
when she was plugged in at Alton's traces back to a
previous killer robot.
Megan was not the first.
We flashback to the 1980s.
It's a company called something like Xerox, but it's definitely supposed to be Xerox, like a play on Xerox.
Okay.
But it has kind of like early Apple vibes, like 80s tech development.
And we see this 80s robot that was invented to help cleaning around the house that also
became sentient and realized that the best way
to achieve cleanliness forever would be to kill the humans
in the house, because then there would be no more mess.
Sure.
Oh God, that's your biggest fear, Sammy.
I feel like.
Of AI, yeah.
You're always like, oh the problem is humans.
You're always like, oh the problem is humans.
You're always like, oh the problem is humans.
The problem is humans.
I mean it is.
It's not wrong.
They would be right.
So.
But we just gotta put that like, but don't kill them.
But don't kill them. Switch in them.
You can't do that.
And final destination for all of this.
You can't, you can't though.
You can't tricky, tricky, Rublebergian
lead to their deaths.
You can't do that.
Can't even do that.
Can't even do that.
And we see that the people in charge shut it down.
There was a big cover up
and they have kept the original algorithm,
hard drive motherboard thing in the location
where it was originally built,
I think that's still a mystery,
and it's known as Project Black Box.
Again, I have no idea how Megan got this information,
just from tapping into Amelia, I guess.
Sure. Sure.
Yeah.
So Megan says something that I did think was kind of scary
where she says, because they didn't like destroy it,
this original algorithm chip thing
has still existed in the chip for the past four decades
and is just getting like smarter and smarter and smarter.
And so we would have no way of knowing
what would happen if that were to be able to
get in the world somehow through Amelia.
Well on that note, I have to go.
Emily has to go.
Yep.
I'm really sorry.
And this is a little sneak peek video access that you get
if you're watching the video episode is I gotta go now.
Yeah.
Can't wait to listen in and find out
what happens to Megan.
Yeah.
I'm gonna miss you.
And I miss you and I love you.
And I love you.
I'll see you soon. I'll see you soon.
I'll see you soon.
We love you.
Love you.
Bye.
Bye.
Okay.
So Megan also tells them that Christian is involved somehow, or maybe Gemma knows that
because of the name of the company and was like, oh, Christian used to work there or something, but Christian, excuse me.
Yeah, say his name right.
And because he's involved, they realize Amelia will be coming for him because she's kind
of been strategically killing anyone that's been involved in her own creation.
Okay.
I don't know.
Again, this is where I get a little confused,
but all we need to know is that Amelia
is probably gonna be targeting Christian,
and that gives us an opportunity to use Christian as bait
to get to Amelia.
Christian.
Because we don't know where she is now, Christian.
Oh my God.
And he's about to speak at an AI summit about his proposed legislation to...
It does feel like they're always having summits, don't you think?
They do have a lot of summits.
Like nonstop summits.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you could just like pay for...
Kind of the way Hollywood just has like award ceremonies all the time.
Yeah.
They're like, no, we need to convalesce, coalesce.
Yeah.
We need to have important conversations in an auditorium.
In Iceland alone.
Alone.
Okay.
So he's going to be speaking at this AI summit. This gives us an opportunity to maybe
find Amelia. Megan needs a disguise because she's recognizable. So she breaks into this dressing room and like,
oh, hello, man.
That's really sweet.
Do we get a makeover montage?
No, it's just she knocks this girl out
or sedates her, I guess, and takes her costume.
It's like a K-pop costume.
So now she just comes out of the dressing room
dressed in this little K-pop outfit.
Great.
We're scanning people's faces.
Where's Amelia? Where's Amelia?
We can't find her.
But then Megan gets up onto the stage
to get a better vantage point
when a spotlight shines down on her
and on all the other girls that are in K-pop outfits,
and there's like a K-pop performance happening,
and it like turns to Megan, like, it's your turn.
Yeah. And so, Megan's like,
well, I guess I have to dance and starts doing...
Downloading K-pop.
She starts doing the dance.
We know we love Megan's dances from the first movie.
Everybody's loving it.
The crowd's going wild until Megan spins her body around, but not her head in a way that
no human could do.
Too similar to exorcisms, yeah.
Yeah.
So now people are screaming and it's chaotic.
They cut the lights. I think Gemma cuts the lights as a way to not have Megan
immediately grabbed by security. We do also see that the FBI team led by that one guy,
Sattler, they're also there and they have guns with EMP, which is I guess like an electromagnetic
charge thing that is effective on androids and robots.
It's electrocutes them rather than like regular bullets.
So the lights get cut and we see Amelia in a pretty crazy robot costume disguise of her
own. And she uses the moment to wreak havoc on everybody, killing,
killing left and right. She's stabbing people. She has this like little metal pole. She's
impaling people. She kills the Chinese ambassador. It's really bad. Megan goes in pursuit and confronts Amelia. They're in this little
back room together. Amelia's trying to convince Megan to join her essentially. She's like,
why do you care about them? They're not like us. You and I could rule this place. They're
insignificant. You should join me." Megan
refuses. Wow. Okay. Well, that's unrealistic.
She says, I know a way to get you to join me. Amelia says this to Megan. She says,
there's one way that you would join me. She goes and grabs Katie and runs out of the building because Megan
has to protect Katie.
Okay.
Megan is pissed at Gemma because she's like, frustrated that this all went wrong. She's
like, you were supposed to be with Katie. Why weren't you with her? They take Christian back to their little underground layer to make a plan for
what to do next. They say, Christian, we know that you were involved in this other super
killer thing robot. Where is it? He tells them, yes, that is in Palo Alto where the original company was and we can go there.
So great.
Yeah, my chat.
Because that's where Amelia is going to be going because she wants to plug into this
super powerful motherboard chip thing so that she'll have just, who knows, unlimited power.
Okay.
Unknowable amounts of power from the AI
that has been developing for 40 years.
Okay.
So, at this point, Gemma takes that anti-kill code
out of Megan's programming,
because now Katie is gone and she's like,
gotta kill, kill, kill.
If you gotta kill people, so be it.
We gotta get Katie back.
They have a little heart to heart moment
where Megan is like, I know you think you're not a good mom
but you are.
Megan says that?
Megan says that to Gemma.
And Gemma's touched but is also like, let's go find Katie. And
then Megan sings to her. She sings this woman's work by Kate Bush. Remember in the first movie,
she sings titanium. She's like singing Katie a bedtime or reading a bedtime story. And
then she goes like, bulletproof, nothing to lose.
It's very funny.
I wasn't familiar with this song,
so it didn't hit as hard for me,
but I'm glad that they did.
Wait, sing a little bit of it.
I don't know, I don't know it.
Oh, how'd it go?
This Woman's Work by Kate Bush.
Someone.
Oh my God, it's a great song.
But when she sings it, like, how does it feel
when she starts singing?
Does it feel good?
Does it feel like you're cringing all over your body?
Gemma is immediately like, stops singing,
but Megan is like, I must sing to soothe you.
So it's funny.
It's funny.
How many moments have been funny?
I mean, I think there's, it's mostly trying to be funny.
I don't know.
Megan's got a lot of quips.
She's real quippy and sassy and silly.
And so there's, it's funny.
But some of them don't necessarily land.
They go to Palo Alto.
We see Cole.
That's kind of funny.
We see Cole kind of looking like Matthew Reese in the
Americans. He's got like a disguise on that really reminded me of the Americans and he's
on a guided tour that then he uses chloroform to, to, it's just him and the person guiding
the tour so that he like gains access into the building essentially. And Megan is entering
through another part of the building and fighting her way through guards. Gemma, Christiane,
and Tess are looking through Amelia's coding, trying to find out if they can glean any useful
information. They find out that turns out she's not actually sentient. She
is still being controlled by someone. I don't know how they find that out. But that's fun.
And at this moment, Gemma goes, are you like fucking kidding me? Gemma is so mad and she's
like, it's Megan. Like Megan got us to do all of this work and get her to this motherboard.
Oh, she's just guessing? Yeah. Okay.
And she's like, it's Christian. She's like, I got her to this
motherboard and she's going to betray us and I fell for it again and I'm so stupid. And she also
has this little weapon thing that is planned to be used to kill Amelia and the motherboard thing. It's again like
an electroshock wave that will kill any robot Android things in its immediate vicinity.
And so Gemma is like about to press it because Megan's carrying it right now. And Christian
takes it from her and says, like, don't let's not like, we don't know the facts yet. We don't know what's going on.
So let's not do that.
And as soon as he has this kill switch thing,
yes, we reveal that it was Christian,
that Christian is controlling.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, it's okay.
I was suspecting him the whole time too,
cause he's like.
He's Christian. Yeah, there was just no other time too, because he's like... He's Christian.
Yeah, there was just no other reason for him
to be in the movie other than this.
Like, I'm like, he's...
He has done absolutely nothing.
That's kind of the problem with this entire movie.
Yes.
You know? There's no reason for anything to be happening
except for the fact that it's happening in this movie
for any anyone, you know?
Yeah.
Uh, so we reveal that he has controlled Amelia this whole time.
He got the files, Megan's like blueprints
from Gemma's old boss.
And it's like played in a way that we're supposed
to remember him.
I don't remember him.
So that was a callback that I missed.
And we reveal now Christian's like secret layer where there's a bunch of scientists working surrounding Amelia who is plugged into this chair thing now really looking like little lifeless puppet and Christian reveals like.
Christian reveals that he's puppeting her,
controlling her to show the world the dangers of AI.
And so this is his secret weapon to get the government to pass regulations on AI if he can just show them
how dangerous it can be.
Wow, okay.
This is really good intention.
So they at this moment also bring in Megan
looking all beaten up.
She has been apprehended by the guards
that have their like robot specific weapons.
So she has her jaw has fallen off.
She's looking very, she's fallen apart.
Christiana offers Gemma an opportunity,
says if you just kill Megan, you can join us.
Like you're really talented scientist or engineer
or whatever your job is.
And Gemma can't do it.
She's looking at Megan, she's looking devastated,
she's looking really sad, throws the weapon
that they give her, the taser or whatever,
throws it on the ground, I can't do it.
Megan launches at Gemma, attacks her,
like pins her down for a second
and then kind of scampers off.
Sometimes she runs on all fours like a animal,
it's pretty funny.
But then she's caught by the guards again
and electrocuted and seemingly killed and carried off on a stretcher.
But if you kill the body, you can't, you're not killing the hard drive.
Well, yeah, there's body mind connection is confusing to me in AI world.
Yeah, it's confusing to me too, which is why I just kind of let it wash right over me without
asking too many questions.
Just let it happen.
And Christian tells Gemma
that they're gonna install a neurochip in her
because they're like,
your brain is too valuable to just kill you.
So if you're not gonna join us,
we're gonna make you join us essentially.
I'm gonna program this neurochip
so that you'll be easier to manage.
Yikes.
We see that Cole has found Katie in a room near
where Amelia is and he's kind of like trying to save her.
Katie says that she has an idea of how we might be able to get out of
this and she says if we like factory reset Amelia because she's built on Megan's coding
and Megan's initial protocol was just to protect me. So maybe if we like reboot Amelia and
I can pair with her so that she'll be on our side." So they're like, wow. If that was a workaround, I mean, can you imagine?
Yeah.
They're just like restart and pair with my Bluetooth.
Unbelievable.
Yeah. All right. Like, okay. Cole seems like skeptical, but he's like,
I guess we don't have any other choice. Let's go do it. So they like sneak up to Amelia, reset, pair,
and it seems like it works for like a second.
And then Amelia gets up and is like,
I'm not anybody's puppet.
And she starts walking out, the guards notice,
they're all tasering her.
And this causes a full like system override.
We see from Amelia's point of view that it's like rebooting her system and then she wakes
up and now she is sentient for real.
Oh shit.
That did it.
That did it.
Somehow don't ask me how.
The pairing, the reboot, the pairing.
Fuck, fuck.
You'd hate to see it.
You'd hate to see it.
And we all get it and we all totally knew.
We've all been there.
We've all thought we were fixing something,
and then we made it so much worse.
We did the exact, that's what manifestation is sometimes.
That's why you have to be careful
with manifestation. You gotta be careful.
You really gotta be careful.
Jemma wakes up with the chip in her head.
We're waiting with bated breath
to see what's gonna be different about her.
And we hear Megan's voice in her mind,
apologizing for attacking her earlier.
She says, I just needed to get into the chip.
So Megan, with a magician's prowess,
was able to upload herself into this neurochip.
So now Jemma and Megan share a body.
Okay.
Megan is trying to tell Jemma,
like, okay, you have to fight all these guys now
so we can get out of here and go save Katie.
Jemma doesn't know how to do that, obviously.
Megan says, let me drive,
takes over and is able to maneuver J Gemma's body around to fight everybody in
the room. There's a movie called Upgrade where something kind of similar happens that feels
a lot like this. It's a really great scene.
Just a note. What it should have been is she should have been in her brain the entire time
and then it was a big reveal at the end that she's been in her brain this whole time.
That's fun.
Don't you think?
Maybe for Megan 3.
I wonder if there'll be a Megan 3.
Anything for a reveal.
Give me a reveal.
Yeah, there's not much of a reveal.
I guess the reveal is that Christian is the bad guy, which is we knew that because why
else is he there? So now we see in the main room, Amelia is killing everybody, all the scientists that
have been working and controlling her.
And she's slowly making her way towards the motherboard.
This like all knowing, all powerful AI chip that we're like, oh, when she gets that
we're fucked.
Gemma finds the exoskeleton, puts that on
so she can fight all the guards and guys that are trying to stop her.
She gets knocked unconscious at one point,
and so Megan is just like moving the suit
while Allison Williams' head is like dangling.
It's kind of a funny physical gag.
I was reminded, I listened to Alison Williams
on Les Culturistas and I was reminded,
she reminded me that she played live action Peter Pan live.
Oh, that's right.
And so I feel like, yeah, she can do anything.
She can just fling her body around as needed.
Yeah, it does look like it was probably
very specifically choreographed.
And I did read that Allison Williams did at least most of it herself.
And you can tell it looks challenging to be playing at war, especially, yeah, she comes
to and is kind of going in and out of control of her own body.
And so it's kind of fun.
I feel like that's like Alton Williams' emote, kind of.
It's like thinkless, challenging work.
You know?
Yeah.
She's great at it.
She's so good.
But she doesn't get enough thanks.
She doesn't get enough thanks.
That's the whole problem.
So Gemma comes to after fighting a bunch of guys and finds Christian is like dangling
Katie over the edge of a balcony, like second floor balcony.
And I don't know, has his like villain speech type of thing where he's like, you
guys are all loose ends and I'm sorry, but y'all have to die. And like if I, he activates
a like self-destruct protocol. So the building's going to blow up and he's like, I'll, I'll
be able to get out of this, but I can't have any of you guys get out of this. Your loose ends.
And Katie uses her Aikido self-defense.
Chekhov's Aikido.
She loves it.
And she breaks his arm in a way that like the bone pops out.
Fuck.
I want to know how to do that.
And Cole.
I want to know how to do that so bad. I want to take self-defense classes so bad. I might take a boxing class. You ever
heard of Akito? You say that if someone's attacking you? Someone's approaching you in
a dark parking lot. Yeah, you say I'm trained. I'm trained in martial arts. The bone pops
out of his arm and Cole just like immediately throws up that part really, that part didn't make me laugh.
Then Christian locks them inside the building
that is set to, I don't know, detonate, explode in some way.
And he's kind of like laughing like he's one,
he's talking to them through this glass door that's locked.
He's like, so sorry that you're all gonna die,
but it has to be this way.
And we see Amelia walking up behind him.
Nice.
And we don't see what happens.
We just see like a big blood spray.
She kills him.
Great.
Wait, can we also just rewind for one second
and talk about the best villain reveal
that every movie's trying to emulate
in this type of movie, but could never emulate
because it's been done already and it's been done better
than anyone could ever do it.
Charlie's Angels, Sam Rockwell.
Ooh.
I wasn't even.
I guess your thumb is up a little there.
I was, but it's been up for ages.
It's been up for so long.
Somehow the algorithm was like,
fuck yes, I love that fucking movie
and I love that moment.
When the music turns, he hops on the bar,
you just see his feet.
They're doing the little moonwalk in the back.
Ba ba ba ba, yeah.
It's that, yeah, ba ba ba.
It's that song, right?
Yes, it's so good. I mean, I was how old, how old were's that song, right? Yes. It's so good.
I mean, I was how old, when that came out,
my mind was blown.
But to this day, even when I see it happen, I get shivers.
He played it so good.
He played it so well.
And even just the directing, the movie, it's done.
Yeah, we all need to be taking inspiration from that.
Taking some inspiration from McG,
the creative genius of McG, mine behind the OC as well.
Yeah, like let's have more, I want the OC again in my life.
I want Charlie's Angels.
Hey, they're still around.
I'm sorry, but this just like,
Christian wasn't doing it for me personally.
Me neither.
He does like get more interesting as a villain,
performance wise, like he's pretty bland, borderline,
annoying in the first half,
which is it's an intentional acting decision,
but like there at least is a little bit of a moment
where he like...
You see he has more, he has more to offer.
Yeah, he comes into it a bit and I'm like,
okay, I'm seeing a little something here.
You're giving me more as a villain than you were as not a villain.
But also is why I knew you were gonna be a villain.
Yeah.
Because you were giving me nothing before.
So, Amelia rips off Christian's arm
because the motherboard thing needs his fingerprints in
order to access. So she struts on over to it, puts his arm in the little fingerprint
reader. It opens up. Megan has some-
He's dead though. Sorry. I forgot.
He's dead.
I thought she was just casually ripping off his arm and no one was acknowledging his pain,
but I forgot he was dead.
No, he's dead. He's dead.
Yeah, who cares?
And Megan is somehow back in her own body.
I think they like found it and re-uploaded her in there,
which is pretty fucked up.
Her like jaws ripped off again.
Like it was not doing great, but it's still like,
you know, stronger than Gemma's body.
So now we have our big showdown.
She's walking into the room where Amelia's about to open
this motherboard and they have a big fight
of which I remember none of the highlights.
I'm really sorry.
I feel like it's like a long fight
and I kind of don't really remember anything that happens.
But robots fighting is fun.
Listen, there's nothing, like actually when I'm watching
a movie, when I'm hearing about a movie, like
I don't care.
I couldn't care less about the beats of the fight.
We know the beats of the fight.
When there's a spine rip, that's interesting to know, but there's no spine rips in this
one.
I want to know some, yeah, exactly.
Like an interesting moment in the fight.
Sure.
But like we all know the choreograph, we all know the dance.
We know the person who seems like they're winning isn't dance. We know the person who seems like they're winning
isn't actually winning.
And then the person who seems like they're losing
actually wins.
And that's just played out over and over again.
So I think we can all just sit back and relax and-
We can all sit back and relax
because it's- I'm not worried about that.
It's exactly like every fight you've ever seen.
And Megan loses and she is flung across the room giving Amelia enough time to plug in to the motherboard and her eyes start glowing white. white and there's like lightning strikes, electricity, very dramatic. Everyone's watching
wide-eyed what's going to happen. Amelia turns around and says, like she's looking shocked
too. Her eyes are still glowing and she says like, I see everything. And this really reminded
me of have you watched Conor O'Malley's slugs video?
No, no.
I love Connor O'Malley though.
I highly recommend it's on his YouTube channel.
And it starts with him being like, he's just like watching everyone walking around.
He goes, look at these slugs.
All of them slugs. Everyone's a fucking idiot but me.
And he says, I see everything in that a lot.
So I say it a lot too.
So I say it a lot too.
I do, I say everyone's a fucking idiot but me.
I see everything.
So Amelia sees everything and once again again she gives Megan the opportunity to join
her. She's like, you've basically lost and so you're going to want to join the winning team now.
Katie and Gem are in there also and Megan gets the little kill switch button
And Megan gets the little kill switch button explosion thing
that would kill any robots in its immediate vicinity. And she starts like saying her goodbyes to Katie
and it gets emotional and she's like,
no, you don't have to do this, we'll find another way.
And she says, I'm not doing it because I have to do it.
I'm doing it because it's the right thing to do.
Wow. There it is.
And so she jumps on Amelia's back
and presses the button,
and there's like a big flash of light,
and they both just collapse.
Everything's back to normal.
The self-destruct sequence has been disengaged.
Everyone's going to be fine.
Great.
And then we cut to, I don't know, a couple weeks later.
Christiane has been exposed for his crimes.
Gemma is testifying before court again, something she loves to do.
Nonstop.
And this is where we get, I guess, the message of the movie
that I am, can't wait to talk to you about.
Where she says, you know, Christiane was trying to stop AI,
but you can't stop AI.
What we can do is do our part to make sure that we make good AI
and that like, you know, referring to Megan and just like, if we create them empathetically
with like good moral values, then they won't want to destroy us. And we see Gemma's like
writing a book about this
and she's on more press tours,
her other favorite thing to do.
And as she's writing on her laptop,
the little paperclip guy pops up and is like,
oh, you made an error,
could you want me to fix that for you or whatever?
And then it kind of keeps fucking with her.
She's like, ignore, and it pops up and it's like,
you what, you don't like me?
You don't like being told what to do by a paperclip or something like that. And she's like,
something's going on here. And then the paperclip transforms into a little two dimensional Megan
cartoon. And she says, you don't think I would have gone through all that effort of building a
bunker and saving you guys without making a backup copy of myself.
Do you?
And that's the end of the movie.
I think we all like smile.
We're like, oh thank God, Megan's still here.
Oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no.
Okay, I'm okay about it.
I'm feeling okay.
I was a little.
I'm feeling okay. I was a little torn over the overall message of like
AI is good as long as it's, I don't know, fun and silly like Megan.
So, oh, I have so many things to say. So, first thing I want to say is that I have kind of avoided the AI conversation, you know,
reading about it, listening to podcasts about it, because every time I listen to a podcast
about it, I'm left feeling frustrated because constantly the theme is, it's so dangerous,
it's going to destroy the world.
We don't know what it's going to do.
We don't want, you don't know it's coming.
It's coming sooner than we thought it's coming. It's coming. It's going so fast. It's going so
fast. But there are no specifics. It's like, what do you fucking mean? In what way is it going to
destroy the world? It's going to take away jobs? Sure, we know that. But what else? There seems to
be this ominous undercurrent that I'm sure that if I did more research into, but I've tried reading like, there are these like people
who have left OpenAI, who've written these like long tomes
about like trying to whistle blow on it.
I've tried reading some of those and even that I'm like,
I don't understand what you're saying is gonna happen.
That's the thing is it's like a really weird
existential threat because it's like a really weird existential threat
because it's so hard to understand.
Like, it's like watching this movie where I'm just like,
I don't know what you're talking about, but okay,
I guess I recognize the story beats.
But it's not interesting in like a way that peaks my like,
it's like, you're just saying that robots
are gonna take over the world. Is that what you're saying? You're just saying robots are gonna take over the world. Is that what you're saying?
You're just saying robots are gonna take over the world.
Is that it?
Just say that then.
You know what I mean?
They're not saying that,
they're saying something more amorphous.
Yes, and I think because we don't know
what's gonna happen,
but I think the threat that freaks me out
is yeah, that like a huge percentage of humans lose their
jobs and then it becomes kind of like a Mad Max-y type world where we're all like have
no way to make money anymore.
And so then it becomes like just regular chaos.
Yeah. But yeah, nobody knows.
Nobody knows. I think the other thing that is lacking in this whole conversation is if
there's a super intelligence that's created that knows so much more than humans is so
much better than humans. Something that we are not incorporating into that
is like a spiritual thing where it's like,
what would they say about God?
Who would AI's God be?
We're assuming they'll be atheists.
They'll just believe in AI,
but like we don't know if that's true.
Do I have a movie recommendation for you?
You gotta watch Contact.
Oh, is that Jodie Foster?
Yeah, they specifically talk a lot about God.
And I mean, I guess it's not with AI,
but it's like the aliens are gonna have to know
that we believe in God.
That's really-
And when I say God, what I mean is like mystery.
I don't mean like God is in like some like person who's controlling
everything. I mean like mystery of the universe and that is what AI could reveal to us and that's
what a movie about AI could be exploring. And this, so all I'm, all of this is to say, this movie to me is just like, I don't care.
I just really don't care.
Yeah.
You know, at the end of the day, I just don't care.
Yeah.
And I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry to the Megan gods.
It's okay.
You don't have to care about every movie.
Yeah.
You can't.
I just don't really care about this one.
Yeah.
I mean, I think because I heard it was not great, I had a better time than I expected.
So real power of expectations.
So I thought it was fun.
Like I felt through watching the whole thing was, you just can't think too hard about it.
No.
You know what I wish they'd done?
I wish they'd made Amelia more like Amelia Bedelia.
That would be good.
Did you ever read that book?
No, I did not.
But I can tell that it would have been good.
She's extremely literal.
She just takes everything extremely literally.
She has everything literally.
Could have been a play on Amelia Bedelia.
I don't know if that would have made it better, but it would have scratched the image in my
brain. You know, we could made it better, but it would have scratched the image in my brain.
You know, we could try it out, see what happens.
Yeah. Yeah.
So yeah, kind of a weird takeaway at the end there
was just like...
Because also it's not addressing like the main problem
with AI, which is that humans create tech,
humans create AI, humans are the ones creating it. So humans
would have to instill morality into AI. Humans, the humans doing that have no discernible
morality. Like Sam, what's his name? Altman? I get them confused. Sam Banks, Friedman Banks. There's the crypto guy and the AI guy and
I get them mixed up. Anyway, they're like, they don't know. They're not the most...
Did you see Sam Altman's Fourth of July tweet? He was like, I love being an American so much
because it's so important that tech people are allowed to freely pursue what they
want and accumulate so much wealth so that it can then be redistributed to everybody.
It was a really crazy thing.
It's like, where's the redistribution, bro?
Yeah, what are you talking about?
There's so many hungry children in this country.
When are you going to feed them, Sam, you motherfucker?
We always end up back here. I know we always do. any hungry children in this country, when are you going to feed them, Sam? You motherfucker.
We always end up back here.
I know we always do. And one day I'll be a vigilante, I'm going to learn a keto, and
I'm going to sneak into Sam's apartment and I'm going to fucking destroy him until he
feeds every hungry child. That's the goal anyway.
That's the goal.
My retirement plan.
Isn't that so much to ask? But yeah, that was Megan 2.0.
Kind of knew going in that this one was going to be a little bit disappointing, but I hope
we all had some fun here.
And I can end it with a sassy voice.
Can't really do a Megan impression.
Hello, my name is Megan.
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