Too Scary; Didn't Watch - OPERA

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is a headgum podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy. And you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those Too Scared to Watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them so that you don't have to. and we've got some jalo today. Oh, some jalo. A little teaser. I know you guys have been craving some jalo, so I baked up a fresh batch. A fresh cold batch of jalo. But before we get into it, I would like to ask my friends, Emily and Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week? I actually have been meaning to tell you guys this story, and I'll tell it to you now.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Wow. And it will, this happened actually like two weeks ago. So now like the shine of it has maybe come off a little bit. But. Well, and also it doesn't doesn't count. So you're right. Shut up and talk about something else. I don't know why you're even bringing it up. Shut your mouth. You're right. Shut your mouth. The question was. You're right. You're right. I should have lied. What was I thinking? No. Okay. So I took this seminar on centering meditation and reflection. And when you walked in the room, you're supposed to pick up like a note card that had a piece of artwork on it. And at one point in the seminar, she asked us to reflect on the artwork and what it made us think about.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And so I wrote this whole thing about dreaming. And I was sitting the way back. And there was one girl sitting in front of me. And afterwards, we were supposed to talk to our partner, like who's sitting next to us about what we wrote about. So I started talking to her about it, telling her about it. And I was specifically, I was thinking of a specific dream I had when I was younger. And she started talking to me about what she wrote down. And she was talking about how she was thinking about change.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And she was in boarding school. And she's going to see her friend who goes to the high school in the area. And they haven't seen each other a long time. So this is a literal girl. Yeah. And she doesn't know what it's going to be like. And then I was like, oh, what boarding school do you go to? and she said St. Andrews, which is where I went to boarding school. And the dream that I was thinking of was this dream I had before I went to St. Andrews. That was like basically this really vivid dream I had when I was a teenager thinking about the concept of going to that school because I was switching high schools. And I had this dream that made me feel so optimistic about it. Like it made me feel like it was the right choice.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's a nice thing of your brain to do. Yeah, and it was the right choice. And so I was specifically kind of reflecting on that in that moment. So it was so strange to then talk to this girl who's literally going to St. Andrews right now. And I was like, well, that's wild. I was like, I went there too. I graduated in 2008. And she goes, oh, that's the year I was born.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And I was like, oh, wow, that's crazy. And then you conjured her. She was very soft-spoken, so sweet, so earnest. And not like how when I was that age, I was such a tryhard. I feel like I was like trying to be funny, trying to be cool, blah, blah, blah. She was like none of those things. She was just just herself. I really admire that when teenagers are like that.
Starting point is 00:03:44 But she kept like referencing, the main thing I want to tell you is that she kept referencing like, oh, that's my mom. Like I'm here because I'm with my mom. And she kept kind of like casually throwing her arm in front of her. And I, this woman kept turning around. And so after this is all over, I introduced myself to the woman who kept turning around when she was doing that. And I was like, oh, I was just talking to her. Like, I didn't know she went to St. Andrews. I went to St. Andrews too.
Starting point is 00:04:13 The woman was like, who, Henley? Who are you talking about? Literally, this woman was like, oh, okay. And this poor teen girl, this poor teen girl is standing there watching me humiliate myself, introduce myself to a woman who she knows is not her mom. But I thought was her mom. And she's like very soft-spoken. So she's not going to stop this from happening.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Oh, no. And then I very quickly realized in the interaction, I'm like, oh, you're not her mom. I'm so sorry. I don't know why I've like assumed. And then the teen girl goes, no, she's my mom. And then she gestured again. And then another woman turned around. And I thought she meant this woman.
Starting point is 00:04:50 So then I introduced myself to this other woman thinking it was her mom. I'm not getting. So I go, I was like, oh, I'm so. I thought she would. You're not her mom. You're her mom. It happened again. Okay, honestly, this is this girl's fault.
Starting point is 00:05:07 This is this girl's fault. And I... So I guess why were you so compelled to talk to this girl's mom? Well, because she kept referencing she was here with her mom. And then this, like, other women kept making eye contact in a way that made me feel like I'm supposed to like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, so these women are weird.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Well, I don't know what was going on. I don't know what's going on. Basically, I just humiliated myself like... a few times in the room before finally making it to her mom, who was the woman giving the fucking seminar, the one at the front of the room giving the seminar. So when she gestured to the room at large, it was kind of a gesture everywhere. Everyone here is at, this is all my mom. This moment is my mom. I was trying to just embrace it and I was like, I have to lean into the humiliation. So then when I finally did introduce myself to the real mom, I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:59 I just thought so many people were you. It wasn't you. I just introduced myself to so many people thinking you were her mom. Neither of them like thought it was funny. They were like, uh-huh. Okay. So, and I was like, fuck my fucking life. That feeling of like, of your, you are digging the hole. You're like, you have the shovel in your hand and you cannot find a way to put it down. That is one of the craziest feelings in the world just being like, I don't want to be holding the shovel, but here I still am. And it's like, yeah, I'm really sorry, hon. That's a lot to deal with.
Starting point is 00:06:32 There was so much that happened in just those brief moments. I was like so many coincidences and then so many instances of me making a fool of myself so fast. Anyway, I don't know what to make of it, but that happened. That happened to me. And it was a little scary. A whirlwind. Truly. Well, you know, I'm going to talk about instead of something scary, wow, we're all breaking the rules today.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'm going to talk about something so stupid but so awesome that I can't. I just need to tell my friends about it. And the thing is, it's not that awesome. It is stupid, but I think it's awesome. Okay. So it's been a, it's been like a heavy kind of few weeks in our lives. And, you know, I've just been tired and really wanted, but like also really wanting to like spend time with Joel. and like yesterday we were like we wanted to go on a date and like we spend time together but we were
Starting point is 00:07:32 just so tired and we had they had like delivered birdie's ashes to us in the afternoon and it made us really sad and it was just like a lot and we couldn't figure out what we wanted to go out and do but we wanted to do something and Joel was like not not connected to this because we were trying to figure out where we were going to go to dinner he was like for later this week I've really been thinking I really want to make like white person tacos like you know the kind. I know exactly. And we were like, what if what if we did that tonight and we made a fucking night of it? And we decided to do canteen a night and Joel, we went to the store. We went to the grocery store as a bar. We went to the bar at the grocery store. We got a little tipsy.
Starting point is 00:08:21 huge recommend. I love grocery shopping a little bit tipsy. It's so fun. I've been meaning to go to that bar for so long. Well, let me tell you what. It's worth it. And two beers, $10. Wow. Wow. I'm talking draft. I'm talking draft. It is just beer and wine. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:37 keep that in mind. But we go to the grocery store. We get a little tipsy. We get everything we need. We come home. I made frozen strawberry margaritas because again, we are leaning into the theme here. Joel made, and I, okay, I growing up, I never had these tacos because we didn't eat ground beef in my
Starting point is 00:08:56 house when I was a kid. So like this specific kind of taco, I don't, I literally don't think I've ever had. I've only just like seen it pictured. And Joel, I can like taste it perfectly. Oh my God, Joel made these tacos. I'm talking yellow hard corn shells. We're talking ground beef. You touch them and they crumble. Exactly. The El Paso seasoning. Yes, we're talking ground beef. We're talking chopped tomatoes. Not Not salsa, chopped tomatoes. We're sour cream, iceberg lettuce,
Starting point is 00:09:27 cheddar cheese, taco sauce. And on the side, refried beans with more taco sauce. You guys, it was the best night of my life. We can't, after we ate dinner,
Starting point is 00:09:40 we just, like, we're so happy. We just hugged each other for like the minute. And then we laughed so hard. You're like, Why did we just hug? We just,
Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm just... The endorphins are absolutely surging. Through the fucking roof. I've never had a better night in my life. I'm still absolutely floating from canteen and I just, this is just my little, times are tough, you guys. This is my little PSA to just be like,
Starting point is 00:10:10 sometimes you go all in on just like the stupidest fucking little night you can think of, and it might be the best thing you've ever done. Emily, you should write a book about theme nights. You can have it. I'm telling you. And the thing is, the theme night was white people tacos. Like, it doesn't have to be, but, you know, then you're like, well, we should make margaritas. And you're like, well, they should be frozen because that's the vibe.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And they should be pink because that's the vibe. You know, and it just, it writes itself. And before you know, you're hugging on the couch. Oh. So just, I'm just going to be thinking about can'tina night for the rest of my. my life. Years to come. And I hope everybody finds a version of a canteen a night to have for themselves because it's pretty great. And let me tell you what, those tacos are good. I know. They actually are good. Those tacos are good. Yep. I know. It's embarrassing to admit, but
Starting point is 00:11:10 like they're not impressive and they're not, you know, they're humble. It's a humble taco. It's a humble, humble dinner. It's humble and. And, I suppose depending on who you ask, insulting. Perhaps we ought to call it something else, but whatever it is, I really liked it. I really liked it. So, I don't know. Joy can be found in the least likely of places.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Especially because you and Joel felt the same way about it. We were, I'm telling you, on fucking cloud nine. I mean, just laughing. Just having a great time. Amazing. So, Cantina Night. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Sammy, anything scary happened to you this week or? That wasn't stupid at all. That was one of the smartest things I've ever heard. Thank you so much. The scariest thing overall is I'm just working a lot and... Yeah, it sucks. It's crazy how working a lot just like makes you dumber.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Like, I don't have headspace for the rest of my life. Yeah. And so I just... Absolutely fucking nuts. It's really crazy. Like in conversations, I'm like, well, I have nothing to say. I have nothing to talk about. I can't stop thinking about work. Yeah. So I'm suffering from some burnout. But it's going, it's going okay. I had a, you know, some resting time and that helped. But so I'm going to talk about something real stupid, but it is scary. Stupid and scary, which is that the other night, there was a house centipede in my bathtub. Oh. When is the last time you guys saw a house sent it? What does that look like? It's Google it.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It's scary. They're fucking scary. They're big befers. I don't want to. They're so big. This one was fully, fully grown. And I'm like, where did it come from? Did it come from the drain?
Starting point is 00:13:07 I think it came from the drain. I hate that. I don't like to think that there's like things down there that can come up. Oh, yeah. It seems like it's straight out of a horror movie. Yeah. And it doesn't feel like this. should actually be a real thing that exists.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It's freaking me out. They're so gross. It looks like what they do in the Matrix. It's like what they put in Neo's stomach in the Matrix. It's like that's... It does. Ew. And I just like I'm pretty good at dealing with like spiders and I can I can catch and release
Starting point is 00:13:40 some things if it's on the wall in a way that I can get a cup over it. And like I can't do that with this. Duncan, thankfully, took. care of it. Unfortunately, this house centipede is no longer on this mortal plane. But I will say like I, when it, when it comes to nasty critters in my space, I become just the, the, it's my, it's my, the way I feed most into the patriarchy of my entire existence. Well, that's not for me to deal with. That's for you to deal with man. There's a man in my house who has to take care of these. things not me never me yeah I haven't had like it's such a like visceral lizard brain reaction
Starting point is 00:14:29 to a bug you know you know like I was so freaked out I was like I can't even look at it I can't even look at it you need to deal with it you need to go deal with it it's also like where it is like being in the tub that like surface so bad it's like slippy slidy oh slippy slidey and and I like looked them up because I Google like everything that ever happens to me constantly. It's one of my biggest vices. It's just constant Googling. And Google let me know that house centipedes are actually really good and they like eat all the good insects in your house and they're like, it's like try not to kill them because they'll take care of all the other bug problems that you have. And I'm like, sure, but my problem that I have right now is this guy.
Starting point is 00:15:16 At what cost? Who's going to be looking at a house centipede and like, you can stay. We can coexist in this house. Not me. No, that's not an option. Yeah. If he, like, stayed hidden and I never saw him, great. Yeah, but he didn't. He didn't.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And I can see you, yeah, it's just like, no, it has to stop. It has to stop now. It has to stop. You can't be here. You can't be here. I'm so sorry. I'm really sorry. I wish it wasn't like this and I wish you'd stay in the drain, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Oh. Oh. But it's out of your hands, you know. Yeah. This is reminding me Silas is obsessed with this book series, Who Would Win? Have I talked about this already? No. It's these like animal competition books where in a fight, which animal would win. And it's like there are some of the nastiest things I've ever seen in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I am interested in this book. Yeah, that does sound pretty cool. One of them is a python. These are things I like to think about. A python versus like a saltwater crocodile. Python. Who would win? And the...
Starting point is 00:16:23 Does it give you answers? Yeah, it gives you answers. Yeah, it gives you answers. Python, right? Yeah, the Python wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, they... Give me another one.
Starting point is 00:16:32 They show them. They, like... Get the book out. They show the whole fight, so you have to watch the Python, like, eat the crocodile. Oh, wait. I'm misunderstanding. It's like not, it's like, I don't know, generated pictures. They're obviously not real pictures.
Starting point is 00:16:46 But, like... This feels like a... A strange book for children, but I want it. It is so fucking violent. It's crazy, but it's also, you know, it's like, Who fucking gave this book to him? He is obsessed with these books. Then there's scorpion versus like tarantula.
Starting point is 00:17:04 There's Scorpion. Great White Shark versus an orca whale. Who do you think would win? Orca. That happens. Who kills, who wins Scorpion and Spider? Who wins that one? I think the Scorpion wins.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah. And then there's the giant squid versus the blue whale. This also happens. Oh, giant squid. Giant squid. So this is, yeah, giant squid wins. This is the only, you guys, we didn't know, we had never laid eyes on a real giant squid until recently. We only knew because they'd wash up on shore.
Starting point is 00:17:35 You mean you laid eyes on a real, you mean us, we humans. We humans. Not Henley. Okay. I was like, Henley, when are you laying eyes on giant squid? You guys didn't do this for years. Me and my family, we only recently. laid eyes on a giant squid. No, no, no, no, humans, humans. But we knew they existed, A, because
Starting point is 00:17:51 of their, you know, carcasses, but also because of the marks from their fights with blue whales. Like whales, we get fucked up by these giant squids. They're aliens. And, like, can you imagine this is a fight that's regularly happening? Regularly happening. Regularly happening. Giant squid versus whale. How do we define regular? I mean, enough for us to, like, write books about it. So should the episode just be, you going through the rest of these combos? Because I'm pretty interested. Yes. If Silas was here, he wouldn't let me shut up about it. It's the only thing he talks about. It's the only thing he wants to do. But I'll stop because it's jello time. It's jello. Jello. Jello. Jello. Yes, it is because today we are talking about opera. Not the opera. A movie
Starting point is 00:18:41 called opera. Okay. Opera came out in 1987, directed. by our guide, Dario Argento, written by Dario Argento and Franco Farini, starring Christina Marsalaach, Ian Charlson, William McNamara, Darya Nicolodi, and Urbano Barbarini. Had you guys heard of this movie? No. No, but I'm loving your background.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Have you ever been to the opera? Has anybody ever been to the opera? I have been multiple times with Tim until I put my foot down and said, No more opera for me. I would like to go to an opera house and be fancy and sit in one of those boxes. But I can't say I'm the biggest fan of the music. The seats are like vertical.
Starting point is 00:19:31 They're like, don't relax. Don't fall asleep. It just feels like you're about to tip over into the, onto the stage. Right. But yeah, I don't know. What are you guys saying about opera? Well, we're going to get canceled if we say anything bad. Well, like, that's true.
Starting point is 00:19:46 We're going to lose our Oscar. I hope we don't lose our Oscar. No, but I'm not arguing no one cares about opera. I'm not arguing that the opera is good or bad. I think it's good. I'm just giving my personal opinion, which is that I don't want to sit through another four-hour opera with Tim. It's long.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And it's not in a language I understand. And it's a style of singing that is intense. Yeah. I went to the opera once as a kid, which, if you can believe it, I didn't like it. Yeah, that's fair. But I think I did fall asleep. I do love going to the ballet and I would go again and again and again.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah, I love the ballet. This movie did make me want to go to the opera, but now you're saying four hours. I'm like, I don't want to go over it. They're really long. Is there an intermission? Can you just leave? Make it a two-hour affair? Yeah, but not if you're with Tim.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's like you don't understand what they're saying anyway. I won't go to the opera with Tim. I can guarantee you that. Yeah, I took a weed gummy one time. And that didn't help. No, that didn't even help. It was not for me. I think that if you grow up listening to opera, this is what I've heard.
Starting point is 00:20:48 If it's like something that's in your life more, you're more likely to enjoy it. I'm sure people would feel a similar way, potentially about going to like the Philharmonic and just being like classical music. No. Right. I really like it. But I also grew up listening to classical music. Yeah, I don't know. La Bohem, I have seen a few times and that I have enjoyed out of all the operas.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yes. Wow. probably three times. I've seen a lot of opera, you guys. Whoa. I have seen a lot. So I feel like I can speak on it and really with my whole chat. I'm on a multi-decade break and maybe in my 50s, I'll pick it back up again. Love that for you. Well, I don't know. This movie might help push you in a direction or not. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. It made me want to go to the opera.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Okay. I'll happily listen to opera music for a short period of time. Maybe this was the way to do it, though. Have some opera in a movie. That's an hour in 40 minutes. What's the like short, you know, what's the shortest opera? Well, Loboam is one of the shorter ones, I think. How long is? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Shortest opera. Because, yeah, I don't want people to think I don't like opera music. I do. I'm fine with it. It's just I really don't want to sit. I think it's fine. People can think that I don't really like opera music because I don't. And I'm allowed to have that opinion.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I don't really like most music at all. You all know that. Yes. Same. I think I don't, yeah, there's just quite simply no way I could sit through four hours of really anything. Any, anything. But.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Well, the stands of time is the shortest opera. That feels supposedly. Which is four minutes and nine seconds. I feel like, yeah, I'm like, that's not what I mean. That's a song. Let's be real. I mean, I could, I could do that. I could definitely do that.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Okay. Well, all right. I'm excited to hear about this. Yes. Opera has a 90%. on Rotten Tomatoes, 68 on Metacritic, and a 6.9 on IMDB. Nice. Budget was $8 million US dollars and it made 4.737 billion lira. I love it when they do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Wikipedia is like, you do the math. You do the math. You convert it. But this was Dario Argento's most expensive. film to date at the at the time i don't know if he made more expensive ones since as a reminder other movies of his that we've talked about are most famously suspiria that's his what he's known for um we've also recapped deep red and tenebrae and i don't think we've done like other there are other directors in the kind of gialo world uh gialo for those who don't know is the term for this like subgenre of Italian kind of murder mystery horror films. There's a lot of like stylized slasher.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Very stylized, usually very colorful. And there's some signature things that are in a lot of them like closeups of leather gloved hands committing a murder. And they're usually with like a. male detective as the main character, but not this one, which is kind of fun. And in my, like, reading around Reddit about this movie, a lot of phrase that came up a lot was this was considered Argento's last good film. Oh, okay. So mean.
Starting point is 00:24:37 This one is crazy, you guys. It's real, I had blast. I'm excited. I think Gialo films are so fun. Unfortunately, the score is not composed by Goblins this time. Dario Argento famously collaborated with the music group Goblin for the score of the other films I just mentioned. But this one is not Goblins. And boy, do I miss them.
Starting point is 00:25:06 The music's still great. But, like, yeah, it just, this movie came out in 1987. and so it's a little more like 80s music-y. Synth opera. Yeah, so there's some synthy stuff. So we're going to watch the trailer at the end and just get straight into this recap. Yay.
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Starting point is 00:27:33 Singing along. Yeah. Singing along. I was immediately having a great time. I was like, well, I love this so far. We got a bird. We got a bird in the first shot. And we're just hearing the opera singer, a woman, like, stopping.
Starting point is 00:27:55 This is clearly a rehearsal that's happening. And she's like, I can't do this with the crows. Oh, my God. Maestro, maestro, make it stop. I can't do this. And a reminder for you guys and for everyone, and I had forgotten as well, that Darya Origento, like, doesn't record the dialogue on set, I think, really ever. Oh, right. And so all the audio is done after shooting.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And so it's like a very bizarre feeling watching it. I remember for Susperia, I was like, no, no, I want to find the, like, non-dubbed version. And I looked for a long time before I realized it doesn't exist. They're all, that's how he does sound. It's crazy. So funny to me. Do you, is there an explanation for that? Or it's just,
Starting point is 00:28:44 I can't remember. I think it's just his preference. Think he is like. It's crazy. It just feels like so much work. I know. It's like they're saying the words on set. You could get them then.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Get it the first time. You could get them. At least try. Yeah. So all of, it adds like a level of comedy to all of the performances. because it just is so silly. So eventually this opera singer, her name is Mara. She's had it.
Starting point is 00:29:18 She can't go any further with these crows. We hear there are other crows in there as well. We'll find out that they're doing a production of Macbeth. Crows are part of it. And she can't stand them. She throws her shoe at this crow. No. Crows are really smart.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Cros are really smart. Don't antagonize a crow. Mm-mm. I really want a crow, friend. I feel like I want to form a bond with one by feeding it over time and showing that I'm a good kind person. You're a safe human. Yeah. And as she's like storming out, she says to the director, this isn't one of your movies.
Starting point is 00:30:01 This is the opera. Like, I can't work like this. director's name is Marco and he's he threw me off at first he looks like too modern for this movie but I actually didn't know the movie we came out in 1987 it makes a little more sense knowing it was 87 I thought it was in the 70s like his some of his other films um he looks like keeper Sutherland in uh the lost boys yeah he's like bleach blonde hair leather jacket he really threw me But apparently, Dario Argento was hired to direct an opera and tried to bring in all these film elements like lasers. And he just had like very big ideas.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And he eventually got fired or decided not to do it because they weren't able to align on the creative vision. And so this character is very much based on Dario Argento's personal experience. So Mara storms out of the opera house and is immediately hit by a car. Oh my gosh. Not at full speed. She survives, but she breaks her leg. Is her crow driving it? We didn't get a look at that driver, I bet.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Yeah, it's three crows in a coat and a trench coat. Three crows. Three, just three. Three crows and a full humanized trench coat. It doesn't fit. And so we hear some of the stage hands saying, Amara, whatever last name is, has been hit by a car. We'll need the understudy.
Starting point is 00:31:46 We need the understudy. Cut to a woman at home in her bed listening to opera music when the phone rings. And we hear a voice saying, Hello, Betty, tonight you'll make your debut as Lady Macbeth. She says, what? Who is this? who's speaking? He says, aren't you happy, Betty? And then hangs up. She thinks it's a practical joke. But just then, her agent walks in to her house somehow right into her bedroom and gives her
Starting point is 00:32:24 the news. We need the understudy. You're going to be playing the part of Lady Macbeth tonight. Isn't this so exciting? Betty is immediately. crying. She's upset because she's saying I'm too young for the role. My voice is not, it's not like, I can't hit the notes yet. I'm too young for this particular. So she's really nervous that she's not going to perform well. And she says, and Macbeth is really unlucky. I wish it wasn't Macbeth. This is not like this. Not like this. Not like this. She We also
Starting point is 00:33:08 Somewhere in here See she has like A vent in her room Like an air vent And we see like shadow moving behind it Someone's in those vents It is so funny that Mcbeth has like The theater trope of being
Starting point is 00:33:23 Unlucky like in the theater world You only refer to it as the Scottish play You don't say the name You can't say the name Macbeth in a theater It's unlucky Yeah Which is like superstitions are fun.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's fun. It's like, we're all agreeing to be like a little bit silly about this one. And the theater is just spooky. It's kind of like a spooky. The theater is spooky. Spooky place. So then like kind of everybody involved with the play is also in her bedroom. Don't know how these people are getting in, but they're just storming in.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Everyone's excited giving her the good news. Oh, are you so excited to play Lady Macbeth tonight? Is her bedroom like backstage? age? Nope. It's pretty hard to get to. I think she's in a locked building at like the top floor and her bedroom is in the back of her house. I really was just like, have her all these people getting in here. And why? It could be a phone call. She is kind of whispering with her agent on the side like, I'm feeling really nervous. McBeth is bad luck. McBeth is bad luck. McBeth is bad. luck. She's like, don't let the director hear you say that. Just then, director, Keeper Sutherland is, comes out of absolutely nowhere. We didn't have eyes on him before. And he basically like appears behind her agent and it's like, did I hear you say McBeth is bad luck? Oh my God. Is this a comedy? I mean, it's really funny. Yeah. I don't think it's intentionally
Starting point is 00:34:56 funny. Parts of it are intentionally funny, but it's, it's great. It's a blast. Highly recommend. And he's reassuring her. It's not bad luck. Not bad luck to me. It's going to be great. You're going to do great. You're going to be famous. All your dreams are going to come true.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And nothing bad is ever going to happen. We're going to live forever. But we got to move fast because the opera is tonight. So she's whisked away to opening night, I believe, of Macbeth, Scottish play. And this opera house absolutely gorgeous. We're getting our first like real good look at it. Good Lord, yeah. I mean, I guess this is why I want to go to the opera.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Like you said, Emily, I want to be sitting in these fun little. Yeah, I want to sit in here. Yeah. For about 15 minutes. I could do an hour. I could do an hour. But that's it. An hour with a break in the middle.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah. And snacks. I hope there's snacks. Yeah, there's got to be some snacks. So the sheet's performing. We're seeing, she's, she's nailing it. She's knocking it out of the park. Oh, she had nothing to be worried about.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And there, we're seeing now a POV shot through the empty halls. Everyone's in their seats except for who is this now? Somebody's not where they should be. And we see those black leather gloves coming into frame, opening a door, going into one of the, one of the seats. and we see the POV on Betty performing from like a high up box seat and hear a little whisper, you finally returned similar to the one we heard on the phone call. Is it a woman's voice? No, it's my voice is a woman's voice.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Okay, okay. Henry's, Henley, Sammy said that. That was Sammy. I thought you were doing the ventriloquism thing that he does. Yeah, no, it was same way the whole time. And then we get some, like, confusing shots that are, it's hard to tell at first if they're happening concurrently or if they're flashbacks or dreams or something. But we get some kind of out of nowhere shots of a woman being chased down a hallway and then being killed. and there's, we see in like a reflection, another woman in the room kind of blank-faced watching this.
Starting point is 00:37:40 We don't know what to make of that yet. And then back to this box seat area where the killer is, we see POV turning to as someone else enters this box seat and says, who are you? You're not supposed to be in here. This is like a man. He's like, this is for stage personnel only. And we see those leather gloved hands grab him by the throat. In the commotion, they knock off some of the lighting, like some big stage lights that crash and fall. And it disrupts the performance, obviously. And so a hush falls on the audience, but they're all just looking at this crashed light.
Starting point is 00:38:26 they don't see in the box that the killer grabs this guy and, like, puts the back of his neck on the coat hook in there. A pretty gnarly death and, like, kind of slams it a few times. So he's getting, like, stabbed in the back of the neck. He dies, obviously. Meanwhile, the director and some of the other, like, stage hands are dealing with the light. directors, name is Marco, I can't remember if I said that. Marco tells Betty, like, it's okay, like, keep going. Like, it's just a light, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:39:06 So they pick back up with the music and they finish the opera without knowing that someone has just been killed. Betty has absolutely crushed standing ovation. Oh, my God. Immediately everyone's like, well, you're famous now. Star is porn. Yeah. She is just being, everyone wants her autograph, they're calling her name, immediate fame. We cut to a little girl watching this on television, a live broadcast of the opera, it seems.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Okay, sure. And the little girl says, like, well done, Betty, you're so beautiful. Wow. Again, I'm not really sure what this is about. And we see a shot then of Mara watching the broadcast as well in her cast. This is the former lead saying something like mean. That was supposed to be me. It was supposed to be me throwing a glass at the TV, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:40:10 So Betty goes to her dressing room when someone knocks on the door and it's... Oh, here we knock. Here, yeah. Here we do And it's a handsome man with a single rose for her and she's like, oh, you must be a fan. I recently have so many. Yeah, she does tell him, you're the first one. And he looks very smitten with her, congratulates her on her performance.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And she offers him an autograph. which is funny. She's like, do you want my autograph? He's like, yeah, sure. And just then another man like taps him on the shoulder
Starting point is 00:41:00 and says, Inspector, they're waiting for you upstairs. And she's like, you're a policeman? I thought you were a fan. She's like kind of scandalized that he's not just there to,
Starting point is 00:41:11 because he's a fan of hers. But he's there because there has been a murder, which they're all very blazé about. Like kind of. So the stage manager comes in as the police officer. His name is Alan. The police officer is Alan leaves to, you know, deal with the murder. Stage manager comes in.
Starting point is 00:41:37 This is Stefano. And he's like, oh, yeah, I guess one of the stage hands died, like really weird stuff. Anyways, like, you want to go back to mine? Huh. And, like, can I get a kiss? The energy is crazy. So then they kiss. I guess they're dating, but that's how we find that out.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Okay. Sure. And then there's like a standalone shot of a human brain like pulsing. Maybe it's supposed to be a heart, but it's strange. It really caught me off guard. Okay. And again, we're seeing like dreamy-ish shot. of going down a winding stone staircase and a woman sleeping.
Starting point is 00:42:28 We see the leather hand pull the blanket off the sleeping woman and putting a knife to her throat. And then we cut to, I really don't know what to make of that one. I guess I think they're flashbacks. It like kind of match cuts to our gloved killer in present day opening his box of like weapons, his little signature weapons, his weapons of choice, which are this little triangular blade, looks like a cartoon knife, and some rope. And there's like needles on tape, like strips of tape with a bunch of needles on them, which we don't like the look of that.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And he's somewhere now watching a replay of the opera, stroking Betty's image on the screen with the knife. Yucky. Cut two, it's middle of the night. We're seeing a POV, someone breaking into the opera house. All the crows are in their little holding cage. There's probably a hundred of them. I read in the trivia that there were, they saw.
Starting point is 00:43:50 started with 140 crows and only had 60 by the end because they kept flying away. That's funny. Because they really are just like loose in the theater a lot of the time. Yeah, fair enough. And they're smart. Yeah, it looks great. Cinematography and this is also awesome. So all the crows are getting all riled up because they sense an evil presence.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah, yeah. And we see as the killer goes to. where Betty's costume is being kept. And it's in like a glass case and like breaks the glass, pulls out the dress, cuts it. We get like this very dramatic, slow motion shot of just the fabric tearing.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And he's ruining this dress and the crows can feel it. And they are using their beaks to open the latch of the cage and they are able to free themselves, and they start attacking this man. Wow. Pecking at him, diving at him, cawing wildly. Classic crow stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Real classic crow stuff. And he swinging his knife, his blade through the air, and he kills one of the crows. Now all the rest of the crows are really mad, and boy, oh boy, a crow never forgets. and that's going to be important.
Starting point is 00:45:22 And they are continuing to attack him. He grabs one and, like, gets it in his hands and stabs it. Aye, aye, aye. And he's laughing and laughing. This guy is evil. He's so bad. This guy's so bad. This guy is so bad.
Starting point is 00:45:44 He's killing these crows. And these crows are so good at acting. I don't think they killed any crows for this movie. if you'll recall in some of the other films, there's a real lizard death in one of Dario Argento's films. And so, you know, I wouldn't put him past him to kill one of these crows, but I think these crows are just really good actors because they do like kind of play dead. I thought it was very cute.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I really hope they're not really dead. They're dead in the film. Right. Thank you for clarifying. Yes. So all of this is just riling the rest of the crows up more and more. get in really chaotic and they knock over one of the shelving things and it makes a really loud noise and it alerts one of the like nighttime security people. We see lights turning on in the
Starting point is 00:46:30 distance, someone coming to check it out. And so the killer escapes through the door, the back door. All the birds like fly to the door. We're pecking at the door. Oh, we want to fucking get this guy so bad. But they can't. And the security guard like sees. all the chaos and that this dress has been taken out and cut up and is kind of like, did the birds do this? Did someone get in here? What's going on? Cut to Betty and Stefano in bed together.
Starting point is 00:47:06 This seems really weird. Okay. They look like post-doing it, but she gets up. Post-doing it. I was going to say post-coital. Did it? like did it. And, but she sits up and starts apologizing.
Starting point is 00:47:28 She's like, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. Like, I'm a disaster in bed and I don't know why. It's not your fault. Oh, Betty, honey. And Stefano says, but opera singers are supposed to be horny. All opera singers, they always have sex because it relaxes the vocal cords. This is a real thing. Don't you know this?
Starting point is 00:47:50 That it relaxes your vocal cords. So lots of opera singers have sex for their voice, for voice reasons. That's a new one. That's a new one I haven't heard before. That's a really interesting angle to play. Really interesting. But he's like, all right, well, let me go make you some tea. Singers also do that.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That one I have heard is good for the voice. So she's alone in this room And just then some leather gloved hands Reach out from behind Grab her Tie her to a pillar in the room This room is it's also like It feels like they just got a shooting location
Starting point is 00:48:35 That was randomly like a huge beautiful castle And they're like well we'll have to shoot it in here And slightly explained He's like oh yeah my uncle's really rich He lets me like stay here sometimes. So we're in a gorgeous castle with pillars in the rooms. So she is tied to a pillar and we see tape is put over her mouth. And then he gets out those little needles on tape and tapes them under her eyes so that the needles are point up like up against her upper eyelids.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Oh, oh my God. And he says if you blink, you'll shred your eyes. You have to watch everything. Oh, my God. Pretty crazy. Yikes. Wait, so we've seen this guy's face. This is the same guy who was with the crows?
Starting point is 00:49:31 We haven't seen this guy's face. Okay. But with the crows, did we see his face? No. Okay. So it's the same, but it's the same guy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Okay, okay. Yeah. We just see his leather, leather, gloved hands. We might have seen. He's one. wearing also like a ski mask type thing. He's just wearing like a black hooded figure. Stefano walks back in, sees Betty, doesn't react too quickly to, I guess it would be crazy and maybe take you a few minutes to process what was happening, but he's real slow about it. He's like, he's like, is this a sex thing? Betty? Are you? Did you? Did you?
Starting point is 00:50:14 change your mind? Did you tie yourself to a pillar and tape needles to your eyes? And the man is still there? He's out of sight, but we know he's, yeah, he's still there. But Stefano is approaching Betty, really, really slowly. He's reaching to untie her when the knife comes from behind or below, really. he gets stabbed like through the bottom of his chin into his mouth and we get a shot in the mouth seeing the blade like coming up from the throat which was honestly like a really impressive shot
Starting point is 00:50:55 I thought it was cool yeah I was like oh I don't think I've ever seen that that's really cool but Stefano bye bye stabbed a whole bunch of times after this he He, like, clasps on the ground and just gets stabbed and stabbed and, of course, Betty has to watch it all because she cannot blink. Oh, and we see that she, like, has blinked a few times, and there's, like, blood dripping down her eyes. Sick. 80s, like, rock and roll is blasting in all of the murder scenes, by the way. Okay. Just very fun, like glam rock sounding, like, wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Very funny vibe. And the killer then turns back to Betty and kind of is waving his knife at her and then cuts one of the ropes that is tied her up and leaves. Please. He's gone. She is able to like wrangle herself out of the ropes and reaches and takes that mouth tape off first. which really confused me. I'd be going straight for the eye stuff, but she does that seemingly last.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It's neither here nor there, but I clocked it as strange. Yeah. She runs outside to a nearby phone booth to call the police, but she does not give her name and she does not stay at the crime scene. She anonymously reports it.
Starting point is 00:52:36 And I think calls Marco to pick her up, the director. Again, this is pretty a weird scene. She's obviously like crying and hasn't communicated, I guess, to Marco what's happening. And Marco's like, oh, trouble with like your boyfriend or something. And she's like, men always think if a woman has problems, it's assumed it's to do with love. Like, we could have problems that aren't that. Like maybe we are being targeted by a serial killer. taped its needles to our eyes.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And he is, he's like, but you have had sex though, right? What? This is actually very important to your career as an opera singer. I don't know if you know this, but you have to be horny until you have sex to relax your vocal cords. And that's not weird of me to ask. And she's like, of course I have. But it never really works. I'm like, why are we having this?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Talk about murders. Talk about what's happening to you. So they go back to her apartment. There's like kind of an energy between them that I'm like, what's going on here? But now she tells them the full story. And she says the strange thing is that the images I, the things I've seen are exactly like images from a dream I had when I was a kid. Like I used to see a hooded man with this like same knife. It's like the most bizarre thing.
Starting point is 00:54:06 I can't figure it out. He's like, yeah, that is strange. He's like, let me go get you some tea again. And he comes back and is like, do you have a boyfriend or someone who might be jealous? Because there's someone outside watching your house with binoculars right now. She needs locks. Does she have locks on doors yet? Yeah, we've got to get some locks on these doors.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Because people are just coming in and out real willy-nilly. In and out. Not okay. So they look out the window and he's gone. There's nobody there. But she's so scared. She's like throws herself in Marco's arms. They're embracing in a way that looks like maybe it's going to lead to more.
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's a heated moment. And he says, he offers to stay. He says, do you want me to stay with you tonight? She says, don't you have someone waiting? And he says, yes, I do. And she's like, well, she'll be pulling out her hair. She's going to be wondering where you all. You go, I'll just lock all the doors and windows.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So he leaves. And we see another shot of the vent and a shadow moving in the vents. Like a human-sized? A human-sized. Oh, it's human-sized, yes. Could it be three crows? Unless it's three crows in a coat, in a drench coat. She's terrified.
Starting point is 00:55:30 She's taken some pills to try to relax her. but it's not doing the trick. The phone rings and nobody's on the other line. It's creepy. She's freaking freaked. Oh, she's freaking freaked. And she says, oh my God, why did I sing that role? None Macbeth, why?
Starting point is 00:55:54 This is all my fault. Oh. And we get a POV shot of someone in the house. like peeking around her hall corner toward her bedroom, her head is hanging in her hands. She doesn't see anybody. Cut to the next day at the opera house. The inspectors there were it's a crime being treated as a crime scene,
Starting point is 00:56:19 this dress fiasco. Three crows are dead. And the crow handler is there. He says, I think it was Mara. Mara hated those crows, the previous lead. and one of the other producers or something is like, okay, let's not, let's not, it's not Mara. It's all relax. We'll figure this all out. But we've got a show tonight. So we got to fix this dress. So the costume designer is there and she's flustered. She takes the, her name's Julia. Julia takes the dress to the, you know, the wardrobe room.
Starting point is 00:57:02 and is Betty is in there and asking like what happened to my dress and we don't know but luckily it has like a bunch of costume jewelry sewn into the front
Starting point is 00:57:14 of it. She's like luckily all the jewels are unbroken so I just need to like take those off fix the dress part and sew them back on. Then she notices
Starting point is 00:57:25 that there's actually a new piece of jewelry on the dress that wasn't there before that's real gold. She shows it to Betty. Like, did you put this on there? Betty says, I've never seen that before.
Starting point is 00:57:40 There's a inscription in it, but it's pretty worn. And so Julia is like, I have a magnifying glass somewhere. Let me go find it. She goes in search of the magnifying glass. Betty's alone in this, like, wardrobe room. We're seeing a POV now, like, clearly through a, a black hood, like just two eye holes staring at at Betty. And this is really cool.
Starting point is 00:58:08 You start hearing a heartbeat getting louder and louder. Like this is the killer's heartbeat. Like he's getting excited type of thing. And then it's just a shot of Betty from behind as she's doing something. And like the whole frame starts pulsing in time with the heartbeat. It's cool. I thought it was very cool. There's another shot of the brain, but this is where I was like, is it supposed to be a heart?
Starting point is 00:58:36 Because it's also pulsing. Really looks like a brain, though. But just then the leather hands reach out, grab Betty. He also whispers to her, all opera singers are such hoars. It's like a real running theme here. Julia comes back with the bracelet I'll be honest I don't know
Starting point is 00:59:05 This bracelet doesn't really lead to anything It feels like maybe some Explanation of the bracelet was cut at some point I don't know because there's a lot of A lot of focus on this bracelet And then nothing really comes of it But she comes back and she's like There's a date inscribed in it
Starting point is 00:59:23 She comes back to see Betty tied up In one of the costume display cases, again, bound with rope with tape over her mouth and needles under her eyes. And the way that this is lit, it looks like a saw movie. She's like under fluorescent lighting because she's in like a display case. It's really gnarly. Julia like runs toward her. but the killer knocks her down, like intercepts her, knocks her down. The bracelet goes flying.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Not the bracelet. It's so important. Really, though. Julia is like diving for the bracelet as if she's like now crawling to like try to get the bracelet. And it's very bizarre. She gets it and is running with it. And she's being kind of funny, like fucking with the killer guy. I mean, like, is this what you want?
Starting point is 01:00:28 You want the bracelet? And he reaches on a table and grabs an iron and throws an iron at her, which would really hurt. Ow. She's knocked to the floor and can't get up. But she still has the bracelet. He comes to her and grabs it. But then she had been faking it and she pops up and smacks him with the iron and, like, knocks him down pretty good. nicely done
Starting point is 01:00:56 but then takes like a long moment to celebrate and she's holding up the bracelet she's like I got the bracelet that's the most important thing at least the bracelet is still here oh buddy and then she's looking at
Starting point is 01:01:13 she's looking at Betty like I should go untie Betty probably but then she looks back down at the killer and she's like but I'm pretty curious about who this killer is and she does like a three back and four like, which one do I want to do first?
Starting point is 01:01:28 And she goes back down to the killer to take his mask off. And we do not see, but she sees someone that makes her gasp. And she goes, and looks at Betty. And she goes, it's, it's, it's. And then the leather gloved hands come up and grab her throat. she falls down the bracelet falls into her mouth as she's being strangled
Starting point is 01:01:57 she dies and the killer by bracelet by strangle I think but bracelet probably didn't help but now he's reaching into her mouth for the bracelet reaching around and then he uses the knife
Starting point is 01:02:14 like between her teeth to like hold the mouth open while he's reaching around for the bracelet, but it's gone too far down. So he rips her top of her blouse so that he can like cut into her esophagus. We don't see it. It's off out of frame. But the implication is that he's like cutting this bracelet out of her throat. Again, really making it seem like this bracelet's pretty important. Someone can tell me in the comments if I missed the deal with this bracelet. Is the date? Does it, is there a date that matters for any reason? There's a date on it. I don't know what it means.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Right. Yeah. Okay. Then he comes back to Betty's taunting, taunting her, dangling the bracelet in her face. And saying, like, I can take you whenever I want. Like, just know that. And slowly, like, strokes. He's got a pair of scissors now, like, fabric.
Starting point is 01:03:16 fabric scissors that he's what he used I think to cut open Julia and he's stroking these scissors down Betty's shirt before he once again
Starting point is 01:03:32 just cuts one of the ropes and leaves she's again able to wriggle free and we see a shot of him rinsing the bracelet I'm sorry that I can't I like
Starting point is 01:03:48 I can't not tell these details because there's just so many things about the bracelet and then we never see it again so he rinses this bracelet so cleans all the blood off of it and then drops it in a storm drain and leaves what was this bracelet for? We'll never know
Starting point is 01:04:05 I guess we'll never be interesting we're not supposed to know it's a red herring so Betty goes home alone, doesn't, doesn't, stop to tell anybody, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It's just like, I guess I better get home now. She's handling this so well. The inspector is already at her house and sees, there's like rope, burn, like marks on her wrist from where she was restrained and he sees that. And it's like, what's going on? I need you to, I need you to be keeping me in the, loop with what's happening.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Like, I'm trying to help you. And I can't even remember if she tells him that he killed Julia. I think she does. She's like, yeah, the killer just killed the seamstress. Yeah, she does tell him because then he's like, oh, I got to get over there. And she's like, please don't leave. Like, I'm so scared to be alone. And he's like, well, I got to go to the crime scene.
Starting point is 01:05:08 But my assistant is just about to be here. His name's Daniela Suave. and I'll send him up to your apartment. So don't like lock yourself in. Don't let anybody in except for Daniela Suava. Daniela Suava. Can we get a picture of Daniela Suava? Yeah, great, great idea, but no.
Starting point is 01:05:33 So he leaves. She goes up to her apartment. She's putting in eyedrops and like rubbing at her tender eyes. Which I really appreciated these details that she's like, eyes really fucking hurt. Yeah. But so she's put in a bunch of eyedrops when someone knocks at the door and over the intercom says it's Daniela Suava, let me in.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And her vision is blurred. It's like we see a POV shot from her just like watery eyed backdrop vision and as like a man comes in. But we don't see any distinguishing. details about him. And then this is a detail that, again, doesn't really matter, but it just really tickled me. She's like, okay, yeah, go get yourself comfortable in the living room. I have a great system for relaxing. And she goes into her bedroom and puts on a, like, meditation recording that says, you are feeling very calm and relaxed. And she, like, lays down and does some of her
Starting point is 01:06:40 meditation. She just thought it was really funny. The doorbell rings. Danielle Suavit asks her if she's expecting company. She says she is her agent, Mira, is coming over. He says, well, make sure you check before you open the door. She's like, motherfucker, you should get in there. This is like why you're here.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Yeah. But he doesn't. She goes to the door. She looks through the peephole. It is Mira. She opens the door. Mira is, has, you know, heard the news. Oh my God, are you okay?
Starting point is 01:07:14 I came as soon as I could. And she's like, oh, how did you hear what happened? And she's like, well, the policeman downstairs told me, Danielle Suava. And she's, Betty says, well, what? But Daniela Suava's in here. And she's like, no, no, Danielle Suva is downstairs. And they kind of creep to the, living room where we thought Daniela Suava was, the man that was in there is gone.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Yeah. And the phone is in that room, but we're too scared now to go into that room because he's clearly lurking in the shadows somewhere. Why don't we go downstairs and get Daniela Suava? Well, because we're then, they're about to do that. They go to the door. And then they're like, what if this is the real Daniela Suava and that's the killer? And then we walk straight into his trap. Seems like we should have gotten a look.
Starting point is 01:08:10 At what Daniela Suave looks like. Before we were told to only let Daniela Suave in, how are we to know? Yeah. A man, we've never met and know nothing about and no identifying details whatsoever. And even if we did, my eyes were blurry. So. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Just then the power is cut. The lights go out in the apartment. Oh, no. Mira and Betty are freaking out. They go into the kitchen, grab some knives. Love that. great, great move. And then they're trying to figure out their next move.
Starting point is 01:08:46 What do we do? Should we just scream for help? And Betty says the walls in this place are like three feet thick. No one's going to hear us. We've got to go out there. And so they're like, if we're armed with the knives, maybe we can do it. But as they get to the door, someone is knocking on the door again, Daniela Suava. or is it or is it and mira is looking through the peephole is saying show me some identification
Starting point is 01:09:16 he does but kind of is like oh yeah it's right here and holding it in a way that you can't really see anything and she says i can't like i can't see it i'm not you're you're you're messy with me i don't believe you and he shows the gun he's like here's my gun and This is a police gun. And she's like, okay. Like, I don't, that doesn't help. And also just show the, just stay still. Stop moving.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Stop moving so I can read your identification. Yes. It's right here. Wiggling it all around. And then we see him point the gun into the peephole and pull the trigger. And this shot is really cool. This is like matrix. style slow motion of the bullet going through the door.
Starting point is 01:10:12 This shot alone costs a million dollars I read. Whoa. Or excuse me, one billion lira. Yeah, there you go. So. Thank you. No idea, actually, how much it costs. I was confused at first.
Starting point is 01:10:26 But it was like an eighth of the budget. And we see the bullet go out the back of Mira's head. This is all like slow motion. It's really awesome. And so this is Darya Nicolodi who is in a lot of Dario Argento films. I believe they were married for a time or at least like romantically involved for a long time. This was two years after they split. And she didn't really want to do the movie for that reason,
Starting point is 01:10:59 but also because she felt this character was like not really that interesting. But then when she heard about the, or like when he explained how this death scene was going to look, she was like, okay, that sounds pretty cool. And I do want to do that. But she said it was really scary because she had to like wear some explosives on the back of her head. What? Yeah, that's scary. Because they were your ex-boyfriend tells you, no, no, no, no, for sure, for sure, for sure you should do this. You should do this because there's a really cool kill shot and you will have explosives in the back of your head. And I really want you to do it. I really want you to do it. really want you to do it. I really want to see this. I really want to see you. I want to see you do. I personally am willing to spend an eighth of the budget. Personally, I'm willing to spend an eighth of budget. It's important to me to do. It's important to me that it's you. So we can see it. And I want to see it a few times. You know the thing about movies is we got to do it at least a few times. I want it to be you. You're the only one right for it, baby. It's very funny. But it does. It looks great. It's very memorable. But now the killer is definitely
Starting point is 01:12:04 in the house, the door breaks open. Betty runs to her bedroom and starts trying to make like a sheet, like tying sheets together to climb out of her window because she's again pretty high up in this building. She doesn't have time. So she's got her knife still. But there's like two men in the house, we think, now.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And like it's where are they? He's good, but he's not a very good cop if he is. Yeah. And so she's hiding the curtains as we're seeing like shadowy figures moving around. And then from like one of the closets or she like turns a corner and a body falls on her, this is the real Daniela Suava who's now been stabbed and killed. Okay. So that makes more sense. And we do get a good look at his idea.
Starting point is 01:13:03 now of course but it's too late uh she is like doesn't know where to go i think it's also like yeah it's too high to climb she's running out of options here where the fuck should she go when a little girl's voice says betty come here and from the vents the little girl like grabs betty and it's like this is i play up here all the time it's been this little neighbor girl in the vents the whole time. Well, that's the most delightful thing I've heard. Well, how about that? A little Eloise.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Well, it's obviously couched in some not delightful stuff because she is like, yeah, I come up here because my parents get in physical fights all the time. Right. So I play in the vents. So I play in the vents, which to be honest, they look really. Where I witnessed murders. So things are going to be great for her when she grows up. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:03 But so they crawl along through the vents into this little girl's house. They hide up. The killer sees the open vent. So quickly figures out that they've gone in there is crawling after them. We see him looking through each vent room to room, apartment to apartment, trying to see which one they've crawled into. But he can't find them. and they've escaped for now.
Starting point is 01:14:35 They go into the little girls' living room. Mom is there. She's like, who the fuck are you? How did you get into my house? She starts immediately screaming at her. Betty is like, we need to call the police. Please, please call the police. She's like, no, you need to get the fuck out of my house.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And because of the yelling, now we, see that the killer is able to, you know, figure out what, what house they're in. And Betty's realizing this, too. So she's like, okay, it's okay, okay, I'll leave, I'll leave. But please, you call the police. You call the police. Betty runs out of the house down into the streets. 80s medal is blasting. Get another shot of the woman from the first weird vision that we saw. This is like a blonde woman. We're getting a better look at her now, but still have no idea who she is. Betty goes to the opera house.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Seems like a pretty bad place to hide from the opera killer. But, you know, that's where she goes. They only have a few sets. Marco is there. And we're feeling a little suspicious of him. Yeah. especially because the seamstress, her reaction. Yeah, someone the seamstress knows.
Starting point is 01:16:03 And he says, Betty, I've figured out a way to identify the killer at the performance tomorrow night. If the killer comes, we're going to catch him. She's like, okay, great. I say more. He doesn't say more. And she doesn't ask. She says, I have to sleep, which, fair enough, she's been, like, forced to be awake for, I think 48 hours. and she's like, I'm so tired.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Just please, I need to sleep, please, I need to sleep. So she goes and sleeps in her dressing room. And now we're getting the clearest kind of shots of these dreams. We're seeing this blonde woman that we previously saw in this vision, kind of witnessing another woman be killed with a blank face. Now we're seeing her watching this woman be killed with kind of a smile on her face. She's maybe enjoying watching this woman die. And we see a little girl walking through the hallway into this room, a young Betty, perhaps, and, you know, stumbling upon this horrible scene and saying, mommy, is that you?
Starting point is 01:17:18 And we see a hooded, masked man turn from the woman being killed. He is the one that has been killing her while this blonde woman watches, and Betty is witnessing all of this. And then Betty wakes up in her dressing room. Says, like, I don't know if that was a dream or memory. Do we get an indication of whether Mommy's the blonde woman or the woman being killed? Mommy's the blonde woman. Yikes.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I mean, both are bad. Both are bad. Yeah, that's for sure troubling. We get to that night's performance. this is where we're going to catch the killer somehow. I don't need any more details. No more details needed. He's being pretty coy about it.
Starting point is 01:18:02 He's like, well, just you wait. She's like, I love a surprise while I'm performing. Yeah, he's a dramatic. He's a creative guy, you know. Yeah, he's a creative guy. Classic director. Classic director. So the performance starts
Starting point is 01:18:20 they're singing, audience is enthralled, and then Marco gives a signal to one of the stage hands and is like, now. And the huge cage of crows blasts through one of the stage walls, really dramatic entrance. And the cages opened and all of the crows fly, out. Oh, they're going to geolocate together. Oh, my God. These crows know. Audience is very confused. Is this supposed to be happening? We see the crows circling, the top of
Starting point is 01:19:04 the theater basically like getting eyes on everybody. They're searching. They remember they've got a vendetta. Hell yeah. This is a very long like spinning shot. It's cool. It's like a POV from the crows all through the opera house. Wow. Awesome. And they fly around and fly around until they recognize someone. They dive down and we're just seeing some close-up shots of someone like shielding their face while beaks are plucking eyes out.
Starting point is 01:19:41 And then we see that it is the inspector. It is Alan. The cop Alan With the rose How dare you With the rose Alan you
Starting point is 01:19:53 Motherfucker And they pluck his eye out And it shows it And we see a close-up Of one of the crows With the eye and his beak Do they kill him? No they don't kill him
Starting point is 01:20:04 But they fuck him up pretty good Okay This obviously You know Causes some chaos in the theater People are running out of their seats He's kind of able to escape and disappear into the crowd.
Starting point is 01:20:19 He somehow, Betty, like, runs backstage. Betty runs basically straight to him. And he grabs Betty and locks them both in a office, like, somewhere in this building. Yeah, I don't really remember how this happened. Oh, she was in her dressing room. Classic Betty. She loves that room. She loves that room.
Starting point is 01:20:46 She's never once thought of. of hiding in a in a non-obvious place to be a room without her name on it. It's like when when May hides and she just goes to the wall and sticks next to the wall. That doesn't count. I can still see you. So Alan's got Betty locked in a room. He ties her up to a chair. His eyes gnarly. It's gone. It's bleeding. He's got little claw and beak scratches all over his face. and this is where you get his kind of villain reveal story here let me explain everything to you he says you're just like your mother we also i forgot to mention like had a one passing line
Starting point is 01:21:33 about how her mother was also an opera singer and he says i loved her so much but she taught me a nasty little game. She taught me to kill and torture. And only after that could I have her. So I believe what happened is that Betty's mom made this guy kill people in front of her and then would fuck him. Have sex with him? Okay. Wait, so Betty, why have you? What? What's your relationship with your mom now? I think she's dead, but I don't remember if they say that or if I just assume that. She's absent in the film entirely other than these flashbacks. But I think there was also like supposed to be some sort of connection to like why Betty can't have an orgasm. And there's almost like an implication that like she's like her mom like needs to see murder.
Starting point is 01:22:35 At least that's what the murderer is kind of being like, you're not broken. Betty, you just needed me to kill people and now we can fuck. It's just genetic. It's genetic. Maybe her bracelet was like her mom's bracelet. I think the bracelet must have been the moms, but like say more about it then. Say more about it. Or say less.
Starting point is 01:22:52 As in nothing. Right. Like it's a bracelet that says I like to kill and murder before I have sex. It's like that type of bracelet. Okay. I love it. I love it when the solution is something that you could never have guessed in a million years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Yeah. Pretty, pretty out there. What's Betty thinking about this? Does she intrigued? I think she's got tape over her mouth again. So we're not hearing from Betty right now. She's restrained. And he's, I think, like, hoping that now we can be together, you know, Betty and
Starting point is 01:23:28 Betty and I. Really interesting way to go about it. But then he reaches to his face and touches his fucked up eye. And he's like, oh, no, oh, my God. You could never love me. I'm a monster. I'm a monster now. Now I'm a monster. And I forgot. I've actually forgotten for a second. I completely forgotten. Oh, shoot. Darn. That's right. Yeah, you know when crows eat your eye and you can't remember it happened. The fact that everything, the way I'm looking at you in the world is completely
Starting point is 01:23:57 different than the way I've ever looked at anything. Everything looks different to me. My perception is off and I'm in searing pain. I forgot about my eye. I forgot about this. So you know what? Actually, like, we should probably both just die. I think. that's probably best. And he finds a can of gasoline in the room conveniently. He starts pouring it everywhere and says, all right, we're going to burn to death, you and I. He's really, he draws it out. He like, there's some other things where he's like, actually shoot me. I'm scared of pain. And why you're like, make a decision, my friend. And then he lights a match. A room goes up in flames. Oh, he gives us a few more details about mom.
Starting point is 01:24:41 He says, I strangled your mom. She wouldn't let me touch her. She wouldn't let me touch her. Ooh, such a gross, nasty line. And then he, yeah, lights the room. It's up in flames. She is able to get out of the rope. I can't remember how.
Starting point is 01:25:02 But she is still locked and the door is locked. And so she can't get out of the room. She grabs his gun and is shooting at the door handle. It's not working somehow. It's still not opening. She's banging on it and screaming. She's in the opera house somewhere. And so presumably people are out there and we'll be able to hear her.
Starting point is 01:25:24 But no one seems to be coming. She sees a key on the ground in the flames and like very carefully pulls it towards her and uses her clothing to pick it up because it's boiling hot from the flames and tries to use it on the door and it's not the right key. Aye, aye, y, yay. And just then someone has finally heard her screaming and banging and they come from the other side and open the door. It's Marco and some firemen.
Starting point is 01:25:58 And we see Alan's body burning. and they're like, oh my God, it's over, thank God. Cut to the Swiss Alps. Nice. Marco and Betty are in this little cabin in the mountains, implying that now they're fucking. Sure. And maybe now she's liking it.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Maybe. Right. Oh, she just needed to go through this for her sex life. I had a hard time tracking, honestly. It was worth it. What was supposed to be happening here. But we see that there's like a maid carrying a big stack of dishes around the house and Betty kind of eyes her thinking, oh, that looks a little treacherous.
Starting point is 01:26:48 They are planning their next opera. They're feeling very excited about it. And we hear all the dishes fall and shatter and the maid. kind of yelps. And they're like, oh, my God, we knew that was going to happen. We're thinking, hmm, what's going on here? Betty goes outside, just like prancing around, sound of music style in the Swiss Alps. And then she sees two German shepherds running through the woods.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Kind of weird. She's a helicopter flying around. So what's going on here? We see Marco inside has the news on and we get a breaking alert, a new development in the opera killer case. The body that was presumed to be Allen's was actually a mannequin. And we only found out right now. What? And then it does a little flashback to him.
Starting point is 01:28:00 having a mannequin that looks exactly like him at the ready in this room. All right. That he tosses into the fire. Very elaborate plan. This is the man with so many plans. He's got a lot of plans. But Marco sees this. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Goes into the kitchen. He's maid has been killed. Oh, brother. Alan is here. He leans out the window to yell to Betty. Betty, he's here. run. Betty just starts booking it through the woods. I don't know. I don't know if this, I don't know, I guess what else are you going to deal? Sure. Sure. She is in being pursued by Alan. He's hot on her tail.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Aye, aye, aye. Chasing her through the woods with his like scarred eye. This looks like very, this part feels like a diehard movie. It's like the 80s music is blasting and he has his eye scar. Marco runs out and tackles Alan to the ground. And Alan ends up on top of Marco, pulls out his knife. And Betty says, no. Then he stabs Marco a bunch of times kills Marco. Oh, man. And then Betty says, oh my God. Oh, I'm, I'm, I, just now realize that I am actually exactly like my mother and I wanted you to do that and I'm so happy that you did that but now we like really need to run away together you and I as lovers before this gets you know discovered we need to get out of here and you see Alan like pretty suspicious of this but also like that would be really cool if true what I've been wanting her to say so you know
Starting point is 01:29:59 on the one hand, high risk, high reward. So he kind of cautiously walks off with her and she's playing it like, okay, here we go, starting our life together. In no way do we, as an audience, believe her. Sure. Even though I did read that there was a version of the script where they were like, maybe she is, actually.
Starting point is 01:30:25 And I'm glad they didn't go that route, but. Yeah. she finds a moment where he's a little distracted and she grabs a big old rock hits him over the head and just then a bunch of police arrive the helicopters like landing nearby they come up to her and they're like this part's really funny the two cops are like so he was really trying to kill you huh he really wanted to kill you you okay he really wanted that guy really wanted to kill you and you okay you okay you okay champ you okay bud
Starting point is 01:30:59 And she says, I'm okay. I knew you guys were coming. I saw your dogs running. I figured, like, I tricked him. I told him a load of nonsense to distract him. And then as they're, like, carrying him off, she yells at him, I'm nothing like my mother. I'm not like my mother. And then she kind of runs off alone.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Again, feels very sound of musicy. She's, like, prancing through the flowers. in the grass. And then she kind of just like tosses herself down onto her stomach and like basically like kicking her heels in the air, like having a nice little play. She's playing. Okay. No moment for Marco.
Starting point is 01:31:44 No moment for Marco. And she said her, I think this is like a voice over her thoughts. She's thinking like, I'm not like my mother. I'm not like anyone. I'm not like anybody else. I love everything. I'm like the wind. I'm like butterflies.
Starting point is 01:32:00 I'm like clouds. I'm not traumatized. I'm actually just the wind and the butterflies. Honestly, like of all the ways to react to trauma, this is a great one. This is good. I'm actually. In front of the head by my. She's rolling around in the grass and she's like picking little flowers.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Like she's going to make herself a little flower crown and she's just delighting in nature. And she sees... a lizard in the grass, trapped by a branch, has like fallen over it just so that it's restrained and can't move. She's like, oh my gosh, she reaches, she takes the branch off the lizard and gives it a quick little pet as it composes itself, it kind of gathers itself, and she says, go free, little, little guy. And the lizard scurries off, and that's the end of the movie. Wow. Wait, didn't you say a lizard died in another?
Starting point is 01:33:02 That's what I was like, is this lizard redemption? This is what's a lizard redemption story. I'm feeling bad about. That's what this whole movie was about. How do we get us? How do we get to a lizard redemption? Wait, wait, I'm so sorry. The last thing that happens, the POV is like from the ground up to her.
Starting point is 01:33:19 And she like reaches her arms out and hugs the ground. And that's the end of the movie. Really, really incredible stuff. I loved it. Whoa. Really special. That was really special. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Interesting. And I think for the U.S. release, they were like, can we please end the movie at the opera house like after they're like, oh, the whole thing's like, can we just cut all of the Swiss Alps stuff? And Dario was like, nope. Which, thank God. And Darya was right. And Dario was right. One of my favorite movie endings ever. No, we actually can't end the movie there because that's not where the movie is.
Starting point is 01:33:59 the ends. It's interesting. Yeah, you would think that he would have dropped at least one line about her feelings about her mom. You know what I mean? Like one reference to like, my mom was also an opera like singer and I've always wanted to be close to or something. Yeah. It's pretty thin. It's just that she's an opera singer or was an opera singer. But that's also such a huge reaction at the, such a huge crazy reaction at the end. It's like how are we supposed to interpret this reaction. Like, what is... I mean, I think it makes perfect sense. I mean, it's beautiful. She's just feeling so free. She's a child of the earth. She's not a child of her mother. She's a child of God. She's a child of nature, mother, mother earth. I mean, I actually, I really,
Starting point is 01:34:44 I'm honest, I think this is a really fascinating depiction of trauma and the way that someone could process trauma. I mean, it would be such a relief to know for sure he's dead. But also, I thought he was going to come back to life again and try to kill her. Like, that's the only thing I kept thinking. I thought she was about to, like, fully have an orgasm there at the end. Maybe that is kind of what's happening. I didn't think about it through that lens, but she's certainly ecstatic. Euphoric.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Okay. So this is more a movie about her sexual awakening. That's what it's a movie about. There's definitely a lot of talk about her sex life. Yeah. Man, I, what a... What a fascinating tale. It's just like, they just quite simply don't make them like this anymore.
Starting point is 01:35:29 No, they really don't. And they couldn't. They couldn't. They wouldn't. And I am delighted every time I watch a movie that just is, is just doing whatever the hell it wants to do. And breaking the form. You really can see that this is just a singular vision of Tarry Argento, just being like, well, this is what's going to happen in this movie. Yep.
Starting point is 01:35:55 I loved it. I appreciate it. And I appreciate you and I had a wonderful time. Loved it. I loved every second. Yep. Super fun. Thank you, Sammy. Love some Gialo. And I guess the accents, yeah, they are, they are Italian. But reminder that everybody is speaking English dubbed in very kind of crazy over-the-top performances. So, for. From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch, goodbye. Goodbye.
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