Too Scary; Didn't Watch - SINGLE WHITE FEMALE

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Haircut inspo, 90s computer stuff, painfully cute pets and a VERY upsetting roommate situation - we're recapping 1992's erotic thriller SINGLE WHITE FEMALE!TW: Sexual AssaultMovie Intro &... Trivia @ 14:43Recap starts @ 20:16TrailerTo get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to NakedWines.com/TOOSCARY and use code TOOSCARY for both the code AND PASSWORD. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:09 15% off your next gift, go to uncommongoods.com slash too scary. That's uncommongoods.com slash too scary for 15% off. Don't miss out on this limited time offer. Uncommon Goods, we're all out of the ordinary. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. Oh no. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:01:59 No. Oh, Sammy, we miss you. We miss you, Sammy. We need you, Sammy. Sammy's not here. I know, I'm sorry. Don't turn it off. Sammy's in freaking Portugal, which is amazing. We're thrilled for her. Jealous. Sad for us, but we must continue on.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We must continue on. We can do it. We're strong enough. We've done it before. We can do it. Thrilled to be here with you, Hen. Same. I love a little Emily and Henley time.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I love a little, you know. Yeah, you know, it's just like a different mood. Just a different, we're just gonna take it so easy. We're taking it so chill today. So easy. It's gonna be so chill. I was thinking about what I was gonna do for this week because I'm doing the recap.
Starting point is 00:02:46 There were a few, I was like, I think maybe I wanna like, maybe I wanna like watch something scary. And I was like looking around and I watched a trailer for a couple things and I was like, no. And I truly had this moment. I was like, Joe was sitting next to me on the couch
Starting point is 00:02:57 and I was like trying to find a fucking movie to watch. And I turned to him and I said, I hate horror movies. He was like, I don't want to watch any of these. I hate this. Well, same girl. And I have no idea what you chose. I'm completely in the dark. It's a big mystery to me.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I do like surprising you with it. But we'll see because, you know, briefest of spoiler alerts, what I picked is really not that scary. So maybe you've seen it. I hope you haven't. I wonder what it is. We'll find out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But first, did anything scary happen to you this weekend? Well, we're just, okay, so we're officially in the season of gift giving. It's hit us, Black Friday, that lasts a month now. The emails, the messages, nonstop, inundated, I hate them all, it makes me never wanna buy anything ever again. Everything is bad. But I came across, so we're going to do also little spoiler alert, we're
Starting point is 00:03:52 going to do a bonus episode where we're going to talk about gift guides. Like some things that we are excited to give as gifts. I'm pretty excited about our bonus episodes for the month of December. I'll just, I'll just come out and say if you're not on freaking patreon.com slash tstw podcast. Fuck what? Yeah, that's right. Or just tstw. I think tstw podcast. I'm pretty sure. One of the two. Yeah. One of the two. If you're not there this month, we're going to do a gift guide and we are also going to do a watch along for a little Lindsay Lohan Christmas feature called Our Little Secret. Is that what it's called?
Starting point is 00:04:31 I don't know. That is what it's called. So, you know, two very non-horror movie related things happening over there that interest you at all. Very important stuff. Lindsay Lohan, she's back, she's better than ever. She has a brand new face, the same face that Christina Aguilera has and Jennifer Lawrence has and everyone has the same face now. Yeah, everyone's getting a brand new face.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But they look so good, so. That'll be included in our gift guide. Yeah, brand new face. Give it to me. Anyway, so in the spirit of feeling overwhelmed by all the shit that's out there, I read a really good suggestion of how to do your gifting, which I really liked.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And I thought it was such a good idea. And it is to make a list of the things that you have bought in the past year, or just used in the past year that you liked the most and were that the most useful to you. And it can be like 10 things, whatever. And then you, for everyone you need to give gifts to, you'd kind of pick like two or three of those things and give them to whoever, depending on what it is. So that's remarkable. Isn't that such a good idea? It's like, duh. And so for me, I know I can't remember exactly what's on her list,
Starting point is 00:05:48 but I remember one thing that was included was an iPad stand. So if you have an iPad, then you can, if you're washing the dishes, if you're like, you know, doing some other kind of chore, doing like even like yard work or your, you know, whatever, you have a stand, you can put your iPad in, you watch whatever you wanna watch
Starting point is 00:06:07 while you're doing your thing, portable TV. Anyway, so just like little things like that, that have made your life easier, that then can make someone else's life easier. So I was thinking one thing that I have that is so useful to me, and I'm like annoyed whenever I'm not in the room where it is,
Starting point is 00:06:25 is my like fast charging iPhone charger. Smart, yeah. You know, I have one of the ones that like charges it in like under 10 minutes or whatever. And it's like, yeah, just give that to people because everyone could use it, everyone would use it. And you include it amongst like, you know, a few other things.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So it's not like you're just giving that. It's like a little gift bag of like things that you find really useful. And maybe your friend or family member might find really useful too. I love that. I think it also is probably helpful in terms of not over buying shit you don't need
Starting point is 00:06:56 for yourself, just being like, what have I bought this year that is actually like added value to my life? I think that is helpful to just think about. Yes. Yes. Wow. The other thing that I would probably be giving people are little bottles of my castor oil and Vanny cream
Starting point is 00:07:11 that everyone I've been preaching about. I've been standing on my mountain top. Just preaching about it. Screaming to the gods about this. Yep. And again, we're gonna do a bonus episode with gift guide with like more details and like more like things.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, and you know, I'm'm gonna do this before we do that episode because now I actually really wanna think about what these things are. Isn't that a cute idea? Yeah. It's a great idea. Yeah, yeah. I simply love it. Yeah, anyway, so that's some advice for That's some advice. your folks out there so you're not buying a bunch of shit
Starting point is 00:07:41 that no one wants and you don't want and it's a waste. And that's it. I don't know. Emily, Emily, Emily. Emily's had the best month ever, you guys. She's had such a good month. Everything's going her way. I am gonna come out and say November of 2024,
Starting point is 00:08:02 one of the worst months ever. It's crazy. It's like you had the best month ever. I had September and October, August, September, October, all three really good months. And boy, oh boy, November was like, just fucking wait, just wait. I hated it.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I hated November for a lot of reasons. And one of those reasons, I'm not just going to talk about, I've already talked about some of them and talk about another one. One of them is that, Oh my God. Okay. Long, long time listeners to the pod might recall that last March, 2023, I got a really terrible internal stye on my eye. It was really awful, super painful. It got like huge and horrible. It was really awful. Cut to November, 2024, that bad boy's coming back. And you know, I was like, been here before.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I know what to do. I did a little telehealth. I got some ointment. Hate that word, but that's what I got to put into my eye. You put it in four times a day. It makes your vision all blurred. It's absolutely nasty and horrible. But I was like, dude, you got to do. And yes, of course, what I got to put into my eye. You put it in four times a day. It makes your vision all blurred. It's absolutely nasty and horrible, but I was like, dude, you gotta do.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And yes, of course I am doing those hot compresses, dare I say religiously, adjust at doing every single, I'm like, you know what? I'm on top of it. It's not going to get bad again. I've been here before. I know what to do. I'm a grown up. It's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I have a pair of novelty pink cat eye glasses that I got at a like carnival that I wore every single day to work. And I will say nobody even batted a freaking eye. I mean, my coworkers, I did tell what was going on, but it's also like, I am appreciative that I have cultivated a personality in the world where it's like, nobody is confused as to why all of a sudden I'm wearing big pink novelty glasses. So that is nice. But it just wasn't getting better.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It just wasn't getting better. It was so painful and I was doing all the things. And in fact, it started to look like it was maybe kind of getting worse, but different. It was like a morphing. And I was like, this thing is not going away. I need to see an actual doctor. But of course you have to see an ophthalmologist.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You can't just go to your primary care doctor because they'll be like, just refer you to a fucking ophthalmologist. Mine did, gave me more antibiotics, which I started taking. But then they were like, you got to go to an ophthalmologist. There's no ophthalmologists available in like 15 mile radius of where I live. Found one in Receta. I don't know if anybody's familiar with Recita. It is just a quick hour away on the 101.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Oh God. That could see me right away. Went to see him. He was like, oh, well, first of all, your antibiotics are doing nothing because it's not an infection. So you're just taking drugs for no reason. I was like, well, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Love to know that I'm doing that. What? I had four glands in a row inside my eyelid that were all like blocked. They just like weren't functioning properly. Oh my God. And guess what? They don't know why.
Starting point is 00:10:55 What? I was like, great. Well, how do I make sure this isn't happening? And they're like, no, no, no, it just happens. It's not, is it from makeup? It's not from makeup. I mean, that's like one, they're like maybe like, but I like don't really wear eye makeup very much.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And it's because it's like gone and come back. It's something about just like how my glands function, which I hate to hear. Something, of course I've been doing so much Googling. And one of the things is like, maybe high cholesterol is a factor. I'm like, do I need to like stop eating butter so that my fucking eye functions properly?
Starting point is 00:11:21 I don't know. You already have to deal with heartburn. Don't tell me you have to deal with no butter too. Insane, I mean, I simply't know. You already have to deal with heartburn. Don't tell me you have to deal with no butter too. Insane. I mean, I simply won't, but had to get it drained slash lanced again. I'm saying so many bad words, you guys. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:34 These are horrible words to hear because it wasn't going away on its own. And he was like, okay, well, that's just what you got to do. Of course I have to come back the next day. I can't just do it the same day. So I once again have to drive an hour home, an hour back, an hour home. True, Ceda, I get this. They course I have to come back the next day. I can't just do it the same day. So I once again have to drive an hour home, an hour back, an hour home.
Starting point is 00:11:48 To Rosita, I get this, they numb my eyelid with some tiny, tiny little needles. And I can't feel a thing, which is great. But they go to start doing it and he does have to like cut my eyelid. And I immediately got a little thing that I've now learned is called and I don't know how it's pronounced vasovagal vasovagal vasovagal I don't know that response which is like your body shuts you down and you are about to faint because your body's like uh-oh trauma trauma trauma even
Starting point is 00:12:17 though I didn't feel any pain my body decided it wanted to make me pass out so I almost passed out I had to like lie down and wait it out before they could keep going. It made me feel like a little bitch, but there was nothing I could do. And anyway, yeah, they just kinda poked around in there with some needles and some little pliers type things. And they had to get out. with some needles and some little pliers type things.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And they had to get out. They had to get out. He went, he was like, I gotta go get another tool. And he went, came back, got little plier things because I had like scar tissue forming in my eye. It was like, what the fuck you guys? What the fuck? So anyway, they did that and now it's mostly healed, I think I hope, and they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:06 hopefully it doesn't come back, sometimes it does. And I was like, really? No. Really awesome, really am loving the experience of being alive in this exact moment in time, it's been really good. Just, you know, what a time. Anybody else who's been there, I feel for you. It sucks. Don't recommend.
Starting point is 00:13:25 This is gonna sound outrageous, but just hear me out. Give me it. So if you need to do it again, I think that you should film it and put it on the internet. And I think that you should make people pay to watch it. Or I don't know, don't make people pay to watch it. Either way, I think you could somehow make a lot of money off of this. People love to watch like...
Starting point is 00:13:48 Interesting. Okay, my TikTok algorithm sometimes shows me these like crazy fucking videos of people getting like earwax removed from their ears and shit like that. And they have... People do love that. I don't love that. And they have- People do love that. I don't love that. Emily, they have like 10 million views. Like people are eating this shit up.
Starting point is 00:14:11 There is a market for this. There is a market for it. God. So if you wanna tap into the market, the market of consumers who wanna watch your eyelid get lanced. I really don't. The people who were listening to this podcast and said,
Starting point is 00:14:23 oh, Lance. I wanna see that. Drain. I wanna don't. The people who were listening to this podcast and said, oh, Lance. I wanna see that. Drain. I wanna see that. You guys, bodies are disgusting. They're mysterious. They're a great mystery. We don't know anything about them, it seems.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Really don't, really. Yeah, hate to go to a doctor and be like, thankfully, at least I'll get an answer as to why this is going on and have them be like, wish we knew. Like, you don't know. You've been in here for too long, I gotta move you out. Sorry, I can only see people for 45 seconds at a time.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Every time I speak to you, it's going to cost you $100. Exactly. Ah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Not to be cynical or anything. No, what's there to be cynical about? Nothing. It's been a crazy week. I'm really glad be cynical or anything. No, what's there to be cynical about? It's been a crazy week.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm really glad that it's feeling better and it looks so much better. Thank you. And I know how painful those are. So I'm glad it's- So painful and so like impossible to ignore. Just so front and center. I was like, if I had some sort of like nasty growth
Starting point is 00:15:24 like on the back of my elbow, I'd be like, oh, I forgot that was there. Right, but now you feel it every time you blink too. It's like- You feel it every time you blink, it like, every time you like look in the mirror, every time you like close and open your eyes, it's just like- Interact with anyone.
Starting point is 00:15:38 You're like, yes, I do have a huge access. So I guess on my gift guide of things that have been most useful to me this year is my pink novelty cat eye glasses. You just never know when you're gonna need them. Anyway, something else scary that I was supposed to do this week is watch a scary movie and guess what I chickened out
Starting point is 00:15:57 and I watched just kind of a regular movie. But we're gonna talk about it. And this week's movie, Hen, is single white female. Have you seen this movie? No, I don't even know what that is. Yes! I don't even know what that is. Am I supposed to know what that is?
Starting point is 00:16:13 Have you heard the term single white female? Yes. Like you're gonna get single white female? Yes, I definitely heard that term, but I don't know anything about the movie. Great, great. I didn't either. It is, okay, it's listed as a horror erotic thriller.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So I did think it was gonna be slightly scarier than what it ended up being. It is nuts and I'm very excited to tell you about it. But I do think probably anybody could handle watching it. Okay. It came out in 1992. Oh. It's directed by Barbit Schroeder,
Starting point is 00:16:47 written by Dawn Ruse based on the novel SWF, single white female, Seeks Same by John Lutz. It is starring Bridget Fonda, Jennifer Jason Lee, Steven Weber, and Peter Friedman. You know nothing about this. Do you have an idea of what you think it's about? Is it kind of like a fatal attraction vibe or it's like someone gets obsessed,
Starting point is 00:17:07 there's like stalking, is it that kind of thing? It's, yes and no. Like I always thought when I heard like, oh, single white female, the term, I thought it meant like someone, yeah, trying to like steal your life basically. Yeah. It's slightly different than that.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Okay. I, yeah, when you said single white female, I was like, of course I've heard that phrase, but then all of a sudden I was like, what does that even mean? Like, I know it's not a good thing, but like, what is it? I don't even really know what the phrase
Starting point is 00:17:36 is supposed to mean. Yeah, I always just picture like, oh, like scary white lady. Like, that's like, uh-oh, like a creepy, nasty little light lady. Which is kind of what it is. I also, I really wanted to pick something this week that was like from the 90s or 2000s.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Wanted to do like something a little older from that moment in time. And also it is available to stream on HBO Max. So people can stream it. It has a 53% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 63 on Metacritic, and a 6.4 on IMDb. All right. Had a budget of $16 million, box office of $84.1 million.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Wow, well that's back 90s, baby. People are going to the theater. People are going to the theater. I don't think I'd ever seen Bridget Fonda in anything. I'm realizing I don't think I have either. And she's so successful and famous and I don't know anything about her. I know, well, she retired from acting.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's a little bit of a trivia. She was or is, I don't know if they still are, but married to Danny Elfman. Okay. And they had a child and she retired from acting. She was just like, I'm not gonna do that anymore. So she had a lot of success and then- More people should do that.
Starting point is 00:18:47 More people should do that and just kind of stepped away. I don't have a ton of trivia for this movie, which I was surprised by. I was really excited to get on the trivia page and get a lot of info. But the two lead roles are played by Bridget Fonda and Jennifer Jason Lee. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Love seeing a young Jennifer Jason Lee. How is Bridget Fonda related to Jane Fonda? She's her niece. So it's like Emma Roberts to Julia Roberts situation. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, got it. Yeah, so the two main roles are Alison Jones and Hedra Carlson.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And Bridget Fonda apparently had the choice of playing either one, but she chose to play Alison Jones because she felt it was a harder role. And I don't know that I agree. Oh, okay. But there we go. But it is correct. Jennifer Jason Lee is fucking perfect in the other role. Yeah, we will. We will get into it.
Starting point is 00:19:38 But here's another interesting fact. Jennifer Jason Lee and Bridget Fonda's fathers, Vic Morrow and Peter Fonda respectively, play adversaries in Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, a 1974 movie. But I just think that's funny that their dads played little adversaries and then they played little- It's just Nepo babies have always been a thing.
Starting point is 00:19:57 They've always been a thing. Nepo babies are just a constant in our life. Anyone. The sun rises, the sun sets. Famous people have babies and they become famous people. Exactly, let's just accept the way the world works. Let's just accept it. Yes, and let's embrace it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Let's rejoice in it. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. It's a tale as old as time. True as it can be. Another little fun casting of Peter Friedman is Frank from Succession. So that was fun. Yes. It's fun to see his little face. A 1992 Frank. Yeah. A young man. Would I recognize him? You would, but it would take you a second. We were both like, is that Frank? And we're
Starting point is 00:20:37 like, yeah, it's Frank. So that was fun. Okay, good. Good. Well, now I feel oriented. You know what I mean? Now I feel like safe in a safe place. Yes. I know Frank's in this. Frank is in this and we love to see it. And we love to see it. Yeah, I don't really have any other trivia, so I think we can just get into it.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I kind of don't want you to watch the trailer until after. Yeah, I would love to be blind, go into it blind, but did you know about this film? Or had you seen it before? Or did you like? I didn't. Once I was scrolling through to see what was available to stream, and it popped up and I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:14 oh, that sounds interesting. It clicked after I had seen it. But I wouldn't have thought about it otherwise, no. OK, OK, perfect. OK, that's fun. I'm excited. I'm so curious. I have no idea. I have no idea. Oh my gosh. I can't wait to tell you about it. Okay. Let me tell you about it, Hen.
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Starting point is 00:25:39 Okay, I am going to give a little trigger warning. Um, trigger warning for sexual assault, I am gonna give a little trigger warning. Trigger warning for sexual assault. Trigger warning for mental illness. Just not handling mental illness well as a film. And discussions of suicide. So putting those trigger warnings out there. I will also just say this movie was made in 1992. Yeah, the 90s.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You can feel it. You can feel it. Also. You can feel it. Also, Joel thought, and we actually talked about it with our friend, friend of the pod, Marty, last night too, and they're both like, it's crazy, it's like wild that this movie's directed by a woman. And it's not, it was directed by a man.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Okay. They both had thought that, cause the name, I mean, the director, his name is Barbet. And I think both of them like saw that more like Barbara or just, I don't know, just like registered as I looked it up and it's a man and you can also that is also that makes sense. It feels it feels extremely, extremely male gazey. A male's idea of a single white female.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. I mean, that's never been done before. Never been done before. Won't be done again. Won't be done again. Okay, that's good to know. Good content. I'm just putting that out there that I know that I know that and I felt it. Mm hmm. We're all on the same page. We're on the same page, but we're just going to we're going to talk about what this movie is about and the fun parts of it, which are that I will say the performances by Bridget Fonda and Jennifer Jason Lee in particular are like really fun. And I do love to see Jennifer Jason Lee just absolutely eating as they say. Okay. It begins. We've got Ali, Alison Jones, who goes by Ali and
Starting point is 00:27:17 her fiance, Sam. Wait, sorry. Alison Jones is which one? She's Bridget Fonda. Bridget Fonda. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Bridget Fonda. So yeah,onda, okay, sorry. Bridget Fonda. So yeah, she and her fiance, Sam, are in bed together. They're recently engaged. She doesn't have a ring yet. She's like, when are you going to go and get me my ring? They're very in love.
Starting point is 00:27:36 We learn that Allie has moved to New York very recently, and so she doesn't have a lot of friends. She has her neighbor upstairs, Graham, but she doesn't know a lot of other people. has her neighbor upstairs, Graham, but she doesn't know a lot of other people, but she says to Sam, you know, you're all I need. You're the best thing that's ever happened to me. You know, they're very enamored with each other. The phone rings and it's Sam's ex-wife.
Starting point is 00:27:57 She answers and she's like, oh, Sam, it's your ex-wife. Hands on the phone. He sort of answers a few of her questions very quickly, very shortly, ends the phone call. And the phone rings again, Allie gets up to go use the restroom, and she's like, Sam, you should really answer that. Like, she's your ex-wife, you should be talking to her.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It starts going to voicemail, and finally Sam's like, okay, picks it up. And this is a 90, so it's one of those voicing machines that's like playing on speaker to the apartment. But Sam's like, okay, picks it up. And this is a 90s, so it's one of those voicing machines that's like playing on speaker to the apartment. But Sam picks up the phone and immediately when he picks it up, she starts yelling at him and says, you can't just come over and sleep with me and then ignore my calls.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And that is still on speaker because it was, started happening when the voicemail had started. Oh brother. Ali hears this. Fuck, fuck. They get in a big fight. Sam is, he's like, I didn't go over there intending to sleep with her.
Starting point is 00:28:54 You know, is the anniversary of our divorce? She was really sad. Oh Jesus. Just like really not helping his case whatsoever. And Ali says, you know, would I have found out if she hadn't said anything, no kicks him out while they're having this fight. Our view goes upstairs to Graham's apartment. Who's right above her. And we see that he can hear the fight through like the
Starting point is 00:29:15 vents. It's one of those old, you know, New York city apartments. And he can overhear what's being said through the vents. But yeah, so Ali, Ali kicks Sam out. Now she's living there alone. A single white female. Now she's a single white female. A freaky little single white female. It's not her fault, it's not her fault. It's not her fault.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Next day, she is talking to Graham about it. They're down in the laundry room and they make a point of letting us know that Graham is gay. So they just have a regular friendship. But he's telling her, it might be good for you to live on your own, establish yourself in the city. She's like, I'll be too lonely. I think it'll be really good for me to get a roommate.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So she puts out an ad in the paper like you did for a roommate. And the ad is SWF, single white female, seeks female to share apartment in West 70s, non-smoker, professional preferred. Oh man, this is like making me anxious. This is making me anxious. Oh no. We see her meanwhile, she takes a business meeting. She's created this new software
Starting point is 00:30:26 and it's like a fashion design and merchandising software where it looks like you can sort of digitize different prints and patterns on like your existing clothes. So it's extremely 90s the way that it all like loads and looks, but it's like, you know, an exciting new development. So she's taking a meeting with Steven Topolowski, who is, I don't even remember what his character name is,
Starting point is 00:30:48 but he's in everything. He's such a that guy. He's like, have you seen Groundhog Day? Yes. The Watch Out for That Step, it's a doozy, that guy. Yes, yes, that guy, yes, yes, yes. Just taking a meeting with him, pitching him on trying her software for his company,
Starting point is 00:31:03 hiring her as like a contractor to teach the software, install it and get his company up to speed. He's very into it. She tells him what her price is and he's like, Oh no, no, no, I'm not going to pay you that much. I know that you don't have any clients. I'd be your first business. So like, here's what I'm going to pay you. But if you do a good job, I will set you up with all my contacts. You know, I'll help you get your business off the ground. But basically it's like undercutting her rate for the promise of helping her establish her business.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Okay. She takes it, she needs the deal. But immediately, yeah, just like very disrespectful to her as a young woman. But you know, she's excited to get this job. Comes back home and she's taking interviews for the apartment. And so we see sort of a little montage of people coming through looking at the place talking with her. For every person that comes, she takes a little Polaroid of them and puts it on their application. And we see her really getting along with this one woman
Starting point is 00:32:05 who leaves and later Ali's looking through the stack of applications and pulls that one out and she's going to give this woman a call, I think, and offer her the apartment. And then she goes into the kitchen to make the phone call. She sees on her fridge, a picture of Sam, and she tears it off the fridge and falls to the ground crying, so upset.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And while she is upset on the floor, she doesn't notice that a woman walks in, another woman to view the apartment. This one sort of comes in, this is Jennifer Jason Lee. Her name is Hedra. Hedra. Goes by Hedy. That's surprising, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yeah, they have a little moment of her being like, Hedra, you must've gotten bullied a lot. And she's like, oh yeah, you don't even wanna know. But so she comes in and it's like, hello, finds Allie on the ground crying. It was like, oh my goodness, like, I'm so sorry I'm here to see the apartment. Are you okay? And Allie's like, yeah, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Like it's not a good time. And Heddy's like, no, no, no, let me make you some tea. Take a seat, like tell me what's going on. She goes to pour water from the sink to start boiling tea and the faucet like bursts and water sprays on both of them and Hattie has to go under the sink and like turn the valve off and you know, now they're laughing, they're bonding, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:17 oh my gosh, look at us, we both got soaking wet, ha ha ha ha ha. Cut to them sitting on the couch, you know, hanging their clothes up to dry and sitting on the couch, hanging their clothes up to dry and sitting on the couch talking, getting to know each other and they're bonding. Hedy tells Allie that she's an only child. She also doesn't really know anyone in the city.
Starting point is 00:33:38 She was supposed to be a twin. Her twin was born, stillborn. So she's always kind of felt alone in the world. Oh God, I don't like where this is going. Allie tells her about everything that happened with Sam and her breakup and they're really clearly bonding and Allie offers Hedy the apartment and Hedy's like really sort of shy and awkward.
Starting point is 00:34:04 She's kind of got like very, like, like Ali she from breakfast club vibes, like, you know, big sort of dowdy clothes and brown hair and just like a little kind of shy, mousy, awkward girl. Whereas Bridget Fonda has the funniest haircut ever, but she has this like mix of a pixie and Bob, like, but like very late eighties, early nineties haircut and is like chic and wears cool clothes and has this lovely New York apartment. So Hedy is like head over heels that she want her to move in. But she does say to Ali, like, you know, are you and this guy going to get back together? You know, I don't want to move
Starting point is 00:34:41 in and then immediately not have a place to live. And, you know, I don't want to move in and then immediately not have a place to live. And I don't want to be in the middle of something like that. And Ali assures her like absolutely not, not getting back together. And she does tell Hedy, by the way, this is a rent control, a rent stabilized place. It's only supposed to be for one person. They have two bedrooms, so she'll have her own room. But she says, you can't be on the lease, but I'll handle everything.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And she's like, great, not a problem. Oh my God, I'm like breaking out in hives, because this is like. Is this probably one that's gonna be like much worse to hear about honestly than see, because so far we're just having a nice time. I know, I know. I just feel like I've read too many stories
Starting point is 00:35:22 about like roommates gone wrong in this scenario. That makes me stressed out. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So Hattie's moving in and we get a, you know, Ali shows her on the building, shows her down in the basement, there's like the laundry room and it's kind of a creepy zone. She's like, I wouldn't really do my laundry here at night, but like, you know, here's
Starting point is 00:35:42 the basement. It's a kind of an old building. So the elevator is one of those that has like a gate that you close and then the door. Sometimes the gate jams. So there's like a little screwdriver inside the elevator that you can use to like jam the door. They still have a ton of elevators like that in New York. Yeah, I mean, it seems half the buildings you go into, the elevators are like that. And you're like, will I survive this?
Starting point is 00:36:06 You can handle me. Hundreds of people are doing it every day. But yeah, I guess unlikely. So, yeah, it's one of those. And she does tell Heidi, she says, like, if you, you know, no one can really know you live here technically. Right. So, you know, just sort of be aware of that. And he's like, yep, no problem.
Starting point is 00:36:24 All good. They sort of be aware of that. And Hedy's like, yep, no problem. All good. And then you sort of get like a little bonding montage. Oh, down in the basement, Hedy finds someone had like discarded a lamp and is like, oh, this would be so cool. And so we see later, Allie is like painting it for her to make it like a nice, you know, upcycling this little lamp for her.
Starting point is 00:36:42 We see them, you know, walking through the park with ice cream and talking about, I don't know, themselves. And they decided to go shopping. Hattie's like, oh, I never really know what to wear. And they go shopping together. They both want to buy the same pair of shoes. But then Hattie tells Allie, like, you buy them.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'll just borrow them from you if I ever want to wear them. So we're really like, sisterhood. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Meanwhile, at some point we see that Sam has left a voicemail for Allie at the place saying, like, Allie, please call me back, I want to fix this. Hedy deletes it, doesn't let her hear it.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yep. Sometime later, I think Hedy's in the shower, something, and Allie goes into her room to bring her the lamp that is now complete and painted and all lovely. She puts it on her bedside table, plugs it in, and she's kind of, you know, just found herself in the room and just looking around,
Starting point is 00:37:37 doing a little bit of snooping. She looks at her perfume, puts some of it on, smells it, looks at some of her earrings. We see her like hold the earrings up to her ear in the mirror. And Hedy comes in and sees her doing this. And for a minute we're like, ooh, is Hedy gonna be pissed? She sort of walks up and says, oh, the perfume smells really good on you.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And Allie's like, I'm so sorry, you haven't even been here two weeks and I'm already caught me in your room. But Hedy sees the lamp and is like, oh, Allie, it's so beautiful, thank you so much. Like, what do I owe you? And Allie says, no, oh, Ali, it's so beautiful, thank you so much. What do I owe you? And Ali says, no, no, no, it's a housewarming gift. She's so appreciative, gives her a big hug,
Starting point is 00:38:10 and then she gives the earrings to Ali, and she's like, here, you have these. They look so good on you. And Ali's like, oh, no, I couldn't. And she says, yes, yes, you must, it's a housewarming gift. So, you know, we're back, we're good. Everything is great.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Listen, this is why you should never make friends with anyone, this is why you should never let- It's dangerous, it's too dangerous. It's dangerous, and- And this way you shouldn't trust women. Just don't trust women, don't live with women, don't give women gifts. Don't be women.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Don't be a woman, and don't be nice to women. No, it's not worth it. And that is the point of this film. We see Allie at work at her new job, helping this company with her software and it's like going really well. Everyone is excited. The boss, Steve Tobolowski,
Starting point is 00:38:58 he's looking over your shoulder and everyone's like, this is going great. Things are good. At home, we see that Hedy has bought a golden retriever puppy. And we see she like, there's like a receipt for like $350 for this dog that she like crumples up and puts in the trash.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And Allie comes home, sees Hedy with this golden retriever puppy. And it's like, what the fuck, why do you have a dog? And then he says, oh, my friend found them and it's just giving them away away, really needs a home. And it looks just like a dog I had when I was a kid. That dog's name was Buddy, so I named him Buddy. But if you really don't want him,
Starting point is 00:39:35 I'm like, wait, I can take him back tomorrow morning. I just, you know, he had nowhere else to go. And Allie's not wanting this dog, but pretty quickly, it's really a cute puppy and she's like, okay, fine, let's keep the puppy. And then again, we're like watching a movie, all three of us, we take a family photo,
Starting point is 00:39:55 Allie, Hetty and Buddy and everything is good. Next day, Allie comes home from work to find that Sam is at our apartment. Sam and Hattie are in the apartment. She's furious. Sam, what are you doing here? Hattie, how could you let him in? Sam's like, it's not Hattie's fault.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Like, I came in, I was refusing to leave, I just need to talk to you. Allie's really upset. Hattie has to leave and is like, do you need me to stay you. Allie's really upset, Hedy has to leave and is like, do you need me to stay? And she's like, no, it's okay. I'll see you later, Hedy, no problem. Hedy leaves.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Sam and Allie start talking and he tells her, again, just the absolute worst apology that anyone has ever given, which is like, people make mistakes, I made a mistake. You just walk away from somebody because they make a mistake. That's not an apology. That's not an ownership of any wrongdoing.
Starting point is 00:40:49 He's like, I can't live without you. You're everything to me. And I've tried, you haven't answered any of my voicemails. You never responded to my letter. I sent you a letter with my keys in it, hoping that you would come and see me. And she, it's wearing her down. And she says, well, she, you know, it's wearing her down. And she says, well, just, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:08 I never got your calls. I never got your letter. Like I would never have ignored your letter, but it's like, you know, what did it say? You know, just tell me what it said. And they start making out and we see, they're like making out by the kitchen window and we see that from the hallway window,
Starting point is 00:41:30 like the hallway of the apartment building, you can like see into their kitchen. And so Hedy sees this happening and sees them making up. It is weird. Somehow. You don't be able to see into other people's apartments within the apartment hallway. You can. So H to see it in other people's apartments. You shouldn't be able to, but she can. So Hedy sees them making up and is, you know, understandably pretty upset.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So yeah, Sam and Allie, you know, they go back to Sam's place. They have sex, they're making up, they spend the whole day and night there. We see Hedy home in the other apartment, in her and Allie's apartment, just like sitting in the middle of the room eating ice cream, angry, cause Allie's not there. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:42:13 The dog tries to come up to her and she just like kicks it away. Oh my God. Like literally shoves it away with her foot. Okay. The middle of the night, Allie comes home, she's sneaking quietly through the apartment to go back to her room. She goes into her room, turns on the night, Allie comes home, she's sneaking quietly through the apartment to go
Starting point is 00:42:25 back to her room. She goes into her room, turns on the light, Hedy is in her room, in her bed, holding Buddy, furious. Like, where were you? Oh my God! Run! She's like, I guess you and Sam made up. And she's like, yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:42:39 She's like, I was worried sick. This is the city. Who knows where you could have been? Like, you don't have a phone? You don't know how to use a phone. And Ali's like, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to scare you. Gosh, you're making me feel like I'm 16.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And he's like, well, your buddy was crying for you and he didn't know where you were. And I had to come in here and just like, next time just, you know, have the courtesy to call. And Ali's like, yeah, got it. I'll definitely do that. Feeling a little thrown, but also I guess is sort of like,
Starting point is 00:43:11 I guess I can understand why she was worried. She's just really worried. Yeah, she just really cares about me in a normal, healthy, totally normal way. Really worried. And I think at this point, Hattie says something like, well, so you and Sam are getting back together.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I guess you're gonna take the place back. And Allie's like, no, we can like, let's like work something out. Like, you know, we'll find a way to make it work. So Allie and Sam start maybe looking into getting a new apartment, taking it slow, not gonna kick Hattie out yet, but Allie and Sam start spending their nights
Starting point is 00:43:43 at Allie and Hattie's apartment. So one night, Allie is in the restroom getting ready for bed. Sam is in her bed and Allie comes back to the room to find Hattie standing at the doorway talking to Sam, like pretty flirtatiously wearing just like a sleep shirt and her underwear. And Allie is like, okay, good night. Hattie is not wanting her there,
Starting point is 00:44:12 but doesn't really say anything. And Hattie's all chipper, like, okay, good night. Goes to her room. And Sam is like, great, now I can have sex with this one too. Yeah, Sam is not acting like it's weird at all. He's like, what's now I can have sex with this one too. Yeah, Sam is like not acting like it's weird at all. He's like, what's wrong with this? This is totally normal and chill for me. In the middle of that night, Ali gets up,
Starting point is 00:44:33 I think decides she's gonna try and go spy on Hedy. She's like, there've been enough little things that she's like weirded out. She gets up for some reason, picks Buddy up and takes Buddy with her and is like sneaking through the apartment, goes over to go into Hattie's room or like look into Hattie's room,
Starting point is 00:44:47 the door is ajar and she sees Hattie masturbating like really intensely. And stands there for a minute too long watching. Okay. Buddy makes a little cry because she's holding him. She like darts away, puts Buddy down, like sneaks into her room, shuts the door, climbs into bed and goes like, shh, shh, shh,
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Starting point is 00:46:34 There's a feeling of goodwill around town. It could only mean one thing. McRib is here. People throwing parties of these sweaters everywhere. Stockings hung up by the chimney with care. It could only mean one thing. McRib is here. At Participating McDonald's for a limited time.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Next morning, Sam is on their balcony fixing one of the balcony rods, you know, like the gate of the balcony is broken. And so he's like trying to fix it. Hedy is making breakfast. She's like, Sam, come eat your breakfast. You have to come have
Starting point is 00:47:16 your breakfast. Has him sit at the table with a plate of eggs. They're talking. They're like they're like having breakfast together like a little couple. Ali comes in. And is immediately like pissed, honestly, in this moment, I think Allie is being so fucking rude.
Starting point is 00:47:34 She literally did the one thing she told this woman she wasn't going to do, which is like, get back together with this guy and make her feel irrelevant. And I mean, Hedy's weird, but by all. So far she hasn't done anything. She hasn't done anything wrong. She's like trying to make it work. She's making breakfast, being nice to her boyfriend, maybe too nice, sure, but being nice to her boyfriend. Right. Fiance.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Cause when they got back together, he did buy Ali a ring. So now Ali has a big, big diamond ring on her finger. So anyway, Hedy offers Ali breakfast. She's like, do you want some breakfast? And Ali is being such a bitch. She's like, no, I'm good. She like has her granola. She's like, do you want some breakfast? And Allie is being such a bitch. She's like, no, I'm good. She's like, how's it going to work? She's like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And then Sam and Allie get ready to leave. And Hedy's like, well, I thought since I like figured out breakfast, maybe you guys would let me do dinner tonight. I'll like make dinner for all of us. And Allie's like, we can't. Tonight's actually an anniversary. So we won't be coming home for dinner.
Starting point is 00:48:23 She's just being so fucking rude to her. Oh God. And Hedy's like, we can't, tonight's actually an anniversary, so we won't be coming home for dinner. She's just being so fucking rude to her. Oh God. And Hattie's like, okay, yeah, congratulations, happy anniversary. And they leave the dog there. By the way, this dog is like a young puppy. Like I said at one point, this is the best behaved puppy in the history of the world.
Starting point is 00:48:40 This puppy just like, you would need to be taking such good care of this dog, like taking it out, having a pee pad, all the things. No, no, they don't need to do that with this dog. This is part of a vast effort for people to put out puppy propaganda. This is part of puppy propaganda. This is puppy propaganda. I think unless you've had a puppy, it's kind of like newborn propaganda, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:49:00 unless you've had a puppy, you like don't know how hard it is. I mean, I'm not speaking from adult experience. I just am speaking from knowing other people's experience and also what it was like when I was a kid and we had puppies, but they are so much fucking work. Like it's not just fun. It's not like it giggles. It sleeps on its little bed in her room
Starting point is 00:49:19 in a little basket. And it's like, no, no, no. That is literally not how this goes. That dog is peeing everywhere, that dog is crying in the middle of the night, the dog is eating all your stuff. It's chewing on everything. It's making so much noise.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It never sits still. It's always biting you. This is like a few month old golden retriever puppy. Like this dog would be a full time job, but it's not, it's really chill. But so Allie and Sam leave, the dog is crying at the front door. This dog loves Allie and is like really sad that Allie's gone.
Starting point is 00:49:47 The only time this dog does anything, not like absolutely perfect, is just like crying at the door. Hattie slumps on the ground crying, you know, she's really upset, she, her, you know, one friend and roommate is being really shitty to her and also she's probably gonna have to move out. And we don't know anything about Hattie's like, besides that she was a twin.
Starting point is 00:50:06 That's all we know. That's all we know. Okay. She's escaped from prison. Oh, and she works at a bookstore. We know that too. All right. I think that's just to show us that like,
Starting point is 00:50:15 she does actually have a job. I don't know. Yeah. But she, you know, she's crying. She calls Buddy over, and Buddy doesn't want to come to her. Buddy's only concerned about Allie having left. And that makes Hattie even more upset. That night, end of the day, Allie and Sam return back home.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And as they are approaching the building, they see surrounded by people looking at the ground, at the corpse of a golden retriever puppy. No, no. Yeah. You know what? I just went through my brain. at the ground at the corpse of a golden retriever puppy. Yeah. No, no. You know what? I just went through my brain. I was like, I think that Emily would have warned me
Starting point is 00:50:50 if the puppy died. I'm pretty sure she would have warned me. I'm sorry. She didn't warn me. I didn't warn you and it does die. Yeah, it does. Dies from like what looks like a fall, perhaps from a 11 story apartment.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Being chucked off a balcony? Yeah. Oh my God. They rush in, they run up to the room, Ally's crying, screaming, "'Heddy, what happened, what happened?' And, you know, takes headphones off and is like, "'What?'
Starting point is 00:51:15 They look to the balcony, the bar that Sam had been fixing that morning, you know, it's gone. And, Hedy's like, "'Oh my gosh, he must have fallen off the balcony. I didn't let Sam finish fixing it this morning because I wanted him to have breakfast. This is all my fault. And Sam's like, no, no, no, Hedy, it's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:51:34 You know, Allie is inconsolable, but Hedy is like sobbing, oh my God, it's my fault. It's my fault. Oh, fuck. Well, it is her fault because she definitely murdered that dog. She definitely murdered that dog. She murdered the shit out of that dog.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Sam and Hedy, they give Allie some sort of sedative for her to just take a nap, sleep it off, her grief. So Allie is sleeping, Sam and Hedy are talking, Hedy's like, this is all my fault, I'm so sorry. And she's asking Sam, are all my fault. I'm so sorry. And she's asking Sam, are you still gonna go on your work trip? Obviously, Allie is really grieving and he's like, yeah, she said that I should still go.
Starting point is 00:52:13 So he's about to leave on a trip for a couple of days. Hedy starts crying, Sam, it's all my fault. Sam soothes her, hugs her, calms her down. It's okay, it's okay. And as she's crying and in his arms, she looks up at him and goes to kiss him. And he like kind of just tries to push her away and is like, okay, bye, bye, heavy.
Starting point is 00:52:38 No, no. It's really awkward and really uncomfortable. No, oh, I hate it. Oh, I don I hate it. Oh, I don't like it. Allie wakes up from her little drug induced nap, realizing she's late for a work event. We'd seen earlier that they were gonna do
Starting point is 00:52:55 a little like cocktails and some like training event for the software that they were gonna do in the evening at the office to sort of make it more fun. Like training with some champagne and she's running late for that. So she gets up looking for something to wear. Can't find what she wants in her closet. So she goes to Hedy's closet to see about maybe borrowing something or maybe did Hedy borrow it. And she sees in Hedy's closet that Hedy has purchased a duplicate of like
Starting point is 00:53:22 every single article of clothing that Ali has. Like at first she thinks her clothes are in Hattie's closet but then she sees like, oh, I actually, I have those in my closet. So it's just like a full duplicate set. Whoa. Here we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Pretty weirded out by that, but she's gotta go to work. So she gets her clothes, she goes to this event. It goes really well. We see like the event ending. You know, everybody leaves except for the boss, Stephen Tobolowski. I wish I knew his character name because obviously this is not the man, the actor. This is the character, which feels important to distinguish because of what is about to happen, which there in the office alone in the evening.
Starting point is 00:54:07 He tells her, you know, you did a really great job. She's like, oh, thank you so much. He says, you know, I'm starting to feel bad. All my employees know how to use the software better than me. Like I think I need a training. She says, oh, well, you know, why don't you put something on my calendar for next week? And we'll do that.
Starting point is 00:54:23 It's late and I have to get going. And he's like, oh, come on, just one more drink. Come on, just show me a little, give me a little tutorial. Ew. So she sits down at the computer, starts showing him, you know, how to use it. He is behind her and he starts kissing her neck. Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. He starts putting his hand down her shirt.
Starting point is 00:54:49 It's awful, she's like absolutely frozen in fear. And he's like, oh come on, you know, doing all the typical nasty horrible shit. And she says to him, cause he's behind her and she's like, why don't you let me turn around? And he's thinking, oh hell yeah, she's gonna suck my dick. And so he's like, now you're talking.
Starting point is 00:55:14 And like starts undoing his pants. She turns around, punches him in the balls. Hell yeah. Grabs her stuff. Great. Runs out. Great, great, great. Good job, grabs her stuff, runs out. Great, great, great. Good job, but also, fuck, your job.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah, really bad, really bad. Comes home, is sobbing, telling Hetty about it. Sam is out of town, she's just telling Hetty what happened to her, she's completely traumatized and horrified, and is pretty quickly saying pretty quickly saying, you know, I'm such an idiot. I'm going to like lose all the contacts that I would have gotten from this job. Like that's the whole reason I took it. The pay wasn't even that good. He hasn't even paid my last invoice. I just ruined all of it. And had he's like, excuse me, like you didn't,
Starting point is 00:56:01 you're the victim here. Like you didn't do anything wrong. Fuck that guy. Yeah. We're going to make sure that he follows up on his end of the deal. Like he's not taking shit from you. Hedy pulls out his card, calls him at home, and he answers and she says, oh no, his wife answers. Oh, great. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And she says, hi, this is Alison Jones. Yes, I know, I know it's quite late. Tell your husband who it is, he'll take the call. He gets on the line and she says something to the effect of like, listen, you piece of shit. You are gonna pay me my final invoice. You are gonna recommend me so highly to everyone else in your industry.
Starting point is 00:56:41 If you don't, I am calling this number, I'm telling your wife what you did, I bet she'd love to hear it. Don't fuck with me. Hangs up. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Fucking awesome. Yeah. Ali's watching her in kind of fear and says like, wow, Hedy, I hope you never get mad at me. Yeah, she's going to. Holy shit. I mean, it's like, you also, you want that to work. You know what I mean? You want that to work.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And it like doesn't work. No. No. But also again, once again, I'm like, Ali, stop being such a fucking bitch. This woman is trying in this moment to help you. Anyway, next day, Hattie's taking Allie to the salon to cheer her up.
Starting point is 00:57:33 She's like, this one's on me. Come on, just have a little like, just get a little blowout, get your hair done. It'll make you feel better. She's like, okay, fine. So go in, All Ali gets her hair done. We see her, she's done, about to leave her appointment. And from the other side of the salon, overcomes Hedy.
Starting point is 00:57:55 What does Hedy look like? Hedy looks exactly like Ali. This is the funniest, one of the funniest scenes I have ever seen in any movie. Because this haircut is so specific. There was a trivia that's like, they're both wearing wigs. It's like, yeah, of course they're both wearing wigs. Truly, it's like a bowl cut in the front, and a pixie in the back.
Starting point is 00:58:22 It is like red, like ginger red hair. And it is such a specific and obvious haircut. And so when a headie comes down with the exact same haircut, they look like two little cartoon twin boys. It's so, so funny. Oh, I need to see a picture of this. I need to know what it looks like. I will show you a picture. Yeah. It is so fucking funny. Oh, I need to look. I need to see a picture of this. I need to know what it looks like. I will show you a picture.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, it is so fucking funny. Ali is so upset and he's like, why? I thought you'd like it. It's like it's a, when were we at Sammy and I were threatening to dye our hair to look exactly like yours at one point. Now I can't remember when that was or why we were going to.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Oh my God. I would love it. But it's also like, it is such a specific fucking haircut. How does anyone pull that off? That is, bull cut in the front, pixie in the back. Nobody, neither of them are. There's nothing about that that makes any sense in my brain.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I can't even, I keep picturing like a Rugrats character. Oh my God. Oh, I just got it. Oh. Oh. Wait. We will post this on the Instagram. It is so funny.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Wait, is that both Jennifer Jason Lee or is that one? No, no, no, no. Jennifer Jason Lee's in front and Bridget Fonda's in the back. That's Bridget Fonda in the back. So this is when they like, this is when they walk out of the salon and are like walking down the street looking like that. And it is so fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Wait, does Bridget Fonda have, what did her hair look like before? Did it look like this before? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just gets like her hair is exactly the same. Okay. Okay. Okay. Just heady comes down with having like cut dyed, done exactly her exact same haircut. Oh, my God. What does that look like? It looks like a mushroom cap. Yes. It looks like a mushroom cap. It looks like a dog. It looks like a dog's on their head, unfortunately. It looks like those chickens
Starting point is 01:00:13 that have the big round top. Yes, it looks like a beautiful, one of those beautiful Portuguese chickens. One of those gorgeous chickens. One of those beautiful Portuguese chickens. It's a gorgeous chicken haircut. Sammy sent us some pictures of some beautiful chickens, and this is definitely getting that.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Looks just like them. But yeah, Allie's really upset. And I was like, you can't just like do that without telling someone. And Hattie's like, I really thought you'd like it. They go home, Hattie goes to take a shower. Allie is like very upset now. And it's like, something is fucking wrong with this woman. Wow. Hattie goes to take a shower, Ali is like very upset now. And it's like, something is fucking wrong with this woman.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Wow. Hattie goes to take a shower, and we see Hattie in the bathroom looking at herself in the mirror with her hair. She's just saying to herself, I love myself like this. I love myself like this. Hattie is really feeling herself. Okay, gosh, I wanna say,
Starting point is 01:00:58 I'm gonna say that to myself every morning when I wake up. Right, I love myself like this. I love myself. Ooh, that is a very, wow, that's a really nourishing statement. It is. I love myself like this. I love myself like this. I love myself. Ooh, that is a very, wow, that's a really nourishing statement. It is. I love myself like this. I love myself like this. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Wow, that's healing. That's healing. It is healing and powerful. Too bad we're hearing it in this context. Yeah. So, Hedy's in the shower and Allie's like, I'm gonna snoop in her room and find out like what the fuck is going on here with this woman. You're not gonna like what you find.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Finds in her closet, what are my favorite tropes? And all of a sudden, which is a shoe box full of all the answers. A literal shoe box full of every piece of information she could possibly need. We see checks written out to an Ellen something. So that is her real name, Ellen. Okay. Let's just say Ellen Burns or something.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Degenerous. Ellen Degenerous. She sees those. She sees a newspaper clipping. That you would save? That you would save from an article about nine-year-olds, Ellen Burns and, I don't know, Jamie Burns, twins. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Jamie Burns drowned. Oh no. Jamie Burns drowned. Oh no. So, and we see a picture of two twins. I forgot to mention at the very, very beginning of the movie we see two twins like putting makeup on each other and being like, he, he, he like having a fun little time. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:02:21 So Jamie's a girl? Yeah, they're both like twin girls. Okay. But you know, now we see that one of those twins was heavy and her twin sister died. Not still born like she had told when they were nine. Really makes it seem like she drowned her sister. It does make you wonder if she drowned her sister, but we also see in this shoe box, the letter from Sam
Starting point is 01:02:42 that Allie never got along with the keys to his apartment. She's looking at all this. Here's the shower turn off. And it's like, fuck the fuck, puts it back in the closet, leaves it there. That night, Hedy gets dressed to go out and is like, you sure you don't want to come? And Allie's like, yeah, I'm feeling well.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Like you go out, see you later. Hedy goes out looking a lot like Allie. It's really funny. This picture, truly you guys, this picture that Emily just sent me, I could not tell the difference between them. Like I thought it was a double Jennifer Jason Lee. I thought it was just her twice.
Starting point is 01:03:15 They're also like around the same height, same like body. Like it's like it really- They have the same face too. It's very convincing. Yeah, Wow. I watched this with Joel and Joel was like, if somebody I knew got my exact same haircut and hair, it would be disgusting.
Starting point is 01:03:35 It would be so horrifying. It really would. Like if all of a sudden someone was like, it's me, you. Like it'd be like really, really alarming. I think I'm less attached to that because I literally give zero shits about my hair and I never change my hair. So it's hard for me to, honestly, it's hard for me
Starting point is 01:03:52 to like even understand what that would be like. Cause like, my hair is such a non-presence in my life. If someone did that, I don't think I'd even notice. I would be like, they have different hair now. Yeah, then 10,000 people have like a dark brown bob. It wouldn't like mean anything to me, but the specificity of the choice is what really. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Really puts it over the edge. I mean, having all the same clothes. Well, yes, that too. So, Ali sneaks out and follows Hedy to see where she's going. Inexplicably, Hedy is going to an S&M club. Sure. Ali follows her in, Hedy's going to an S&M club. Sure. Allie follows her in, is like a little weirded out
Starting point is 01:04:29 by this club that she's in, but it's sort of like, we don't really get any answer as to why necessarily Hedy is there, but we do see she's clearly a regular. She's sitting at the bar talking to some people and the bartender says, Allie, do you want your usual? Oh, she's gonna to take her identity. So Ali now sees that she's also using her name. Just like how she took Who's Hedy? Who's Hedy?
Starting point is 01:04:51 Also, like, they had to make it an erotic thriller somehow. They're like, throwing us a num club in there. Throwing us a num club. So Ali runs home, looks up, I suppose, in, like, the phone book, the number for Hedy's, or Ellen, but I'm going to the number for Hattie's, or Ellen, but I'm gonna keep calling her Hattie, Hattie's parents. Calls, leaves a voicemail and says, hi, my name is Alison Jones,
Starting point is 01:05:13 you can reach me at this number, your daughter is here with me, I don't wanna leave too much information over the voicemail, but it seems like maybe she's not well, and please call me back and we can figure out how to maybe get her the help that she needs, trying to be, you know, kind and discreet on this voicemail. She leaves her number, hangs up,
Starting point is 01:05:32 goes upstairs to Graham's apartment to tell him the deal. Graham has a gorgeous, gorgeous long-haired orange cat. Oh, don't tell me more about animals. I don't want to know another thing about an animal in this movie. She's telling Graham about what has happened, Oh, don't tell me more about animals. I don't want to know another thing about an animal in this movie. She's telling Graham about what has happened and Graham is like, you need to kick her out. Like, you're not safe there.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Like, what is up with this woman? Graham said, she want me to call my therapist and like ask her what is up with this woman. And she's like, no, no, it's fine. She's clearly unwell. Like she's being a little more understanding of Hattie and it's like, you know, I don't know what's up with this woman, but she, you know, she lied to me, but she's clearly not. She needs help. She needs help. I'll tell her tomorrow that I need her to move out, but like, it's fine. Graham's like, do you want to sleep here tonight? She's like, no, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Like, you know, I don't think she's a danger. I just like, something's not right with her and I just needed to tell somebody. And Graham's like, if you don't kick her out by tomorrow, like I'm gonna, I'm calling the police. Like this woman is not okay. And Ali's like, it's okay, I'm gonna handle it. It's all good. And he says like, when does Sam get back into town?
Starting point is 01:06:37 And she's like, he gets back in tonight or tomorrow. Like it's all good. And he's like, okay, great, thank God. Let me know if you need anything. We see. As this conversation has been happening, Hedy has arrived home and guess who can hear through those old vents? She hears the whole freaking conversation.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Mm-hmm. So later we see Graham is off. He does call his therapist and we see him on the phone with his therapist being like, what do you think is up with this woman? What should we do? And we see Hedy sneaking into that apartment. Graham's apartment?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Graham's apartment. Oh no, oh no. Is he on the phone with the therapist? He's on the phone, so he doesn't hear her come in. His door locks with like a metal bar. Like I've never seen this, but there's like a metal bar in his like door to lock it. Like in the floor, like it goes from the door to the floor?
Starting point is 01:07:35 I think so. Okay. Like one of those. I think I have seen that before. I've seen that, right? Yeah. Anyway. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:42 So we see her sneak in. He doesn't quite hear her, but then he does sort of hear a little noise because I think she's trying to sneak back out. She just wanted to like poison the cat and leave. Yeah. She maybe just wanted to kill the cat and leave. We see her trying to sneak out. Graham hears her. He hangs the phone. He comes. He sees her sort of cowering in the doorway caught. And he's like, it's okay, Hattie. Like, it's okay. Everything's okay, like calm down. He's trying to like placate her. She grabs that bar from the door. And she bludgeoned him. Holy shit. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Hetty, you did not need to do that. Yeah. Cut to Allie coming out of her room or coming home to find Hedy in the shower. Again, she just showered not that long ago, right? When she was like, I love myself like this. She's like been in the shower for a really long time. Cause she's covered in blood.
Starting point is 01:08:34 So Ali like knocks on the door and is like, Hedy, is everything okay? You've you've been in there a while. How do you look completely shell shocked? She's like sitting under the water pouring over her. She's naked. There's a lot of nudity of, a lot of female nudity in this movie. But Hattie's like, I just don't feel well.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And Allie says, okay, do you want me to make you some tea? Maybe that'll help you feel better. And she like opens the door and is like, how are you doing? And sees in the sink the dress that Heddy had been wearing in bloody water. But she just says like, oh, are you cramping? When I, sometimes T can really help you feel better.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Just like, yeah, she's had her dress covered in blood because she's on her period. Okay. I mean, but also,, what else do you think? She just bludgeoned your upstairs neighbor? That's the other option. She's like saying she doesn't feel well, sure. So Hattie's like, yeah, that sounds good.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Why don't you make me some tea? Comes out of the shower, phone rings, Hattie answers it. And it's her dad. And he says, Ellen, you there? Ellen, we just need to talk. Like you haven't been answering any of her messages. She totally freaks out. It's like, don't call her again and hangs up.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Ali comes out and says like, who was that? And she was like, it's just a prank caller. She takes the phone and puts it like brings it into her room. And Ali says, okay, well like I'm expecting a call from Sam. She takes the phone and puts it, like brings it into her room. And Allie says, okay, well, like I'm expecting a call from Sam. So just like, let me know if the phone rings again. She's like, oh, yeah, no worries. So Hedy now knows that the jig is up, that she knows her real name.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yes, she knows that she's called her parents. She can assume that she's called her parents. Okay. All right. Okay. So we've reached the end of this little game we're playing here, Hedy. We've reached the end of this little game we're playing. And how does the game end, Hedy? Let's find out, let's find out. The phone rings, Hedy answers it,
Starting point is 01:10:36 and it is Sam saying that he's back. And she's like, I'll tell Allie, hangs up. No, she won't. In the middle of the night, she goes over to Sam's apartment. She is wearing Allie's clothes. She has Allie's hair. She has Sam's keys, because she took that letter.
Starting point is 01:10:53 And you know, it's dark. She goes into his room. She takes off her clothes. She gets into bed behind him. Starts kissing his back. He's like half asleep and is like, oh, Ali, hey. She starts going down on him.
Starting point is 01:11:13 And he, you know, has his head in her hair. It seems like the hair that Ali would have. It's the right kind of hair. But pretty quickly, he's like... Something's different. Something's the right kind of hair. But pretty quickly he's like, something's different. Something's not right. And so he says, Ali?
Starting point is 01:11:31 And Hedy looks up at him and she goes, no, it's not Ali. And then finishes going down on him, gets him off, comes back up and lies next to him. And she was like, I knew you hadn't changed. He looks completely shell shocked. Like to be fair, he was just sexually assaulted. Yeah, wait, and wait, she said, I knew you hadn't changed?
Starting point is 01:11:57 Because he had cheated on Allie with his ex-wife. Oh, I see, I see. So this was Hedy like proving. That he would cheat on her again. That he would cheat on her again. That he would cheat. Which again. Which is not what happened. No, he was sexually assaulted. But she was like, you knew it was me.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Like I showed my face to you and you let me keep going. Like you knew it was me. And she says, so here's what's gonna happen. You are gonna break up with Allie. I'm gonna keep the apartment and live with Allie and you're gonna go away and I'll never tell her that this happened And he sort of like comes back to himself in that moment and it's like no she's gonna know what happened because I'm gonna fucking Tell her mm-hmm gets up and it's like going to put his clothes on and grabbing his keys And I think he does call her crazy not a nice thing to do
Starting point is 01:12:46 Though you know, bad circumstances. She gets livid that her plan has not worked, picks up her stiletto with a long, long, long heel. What's the weapon gonna be this time, Hetty? Stabs it through his eye. Holy shit. Into his brain. Oh my God. Killing him. Oh.
Starting point is 01:13:06 And at first Joel and I were like, would that kill him? Was that like a big enough weapon? And then they cut to her like walking out of the building and they show the heel and like, that's a pretty long big heel. I do think it would go in deep enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:20 So, you know, she's walking out of the building. We see her walk past the, you know, front desk night manager. She again looks like totally dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, she's walking out of the building. We see her walk past the, you know, front desk night manager. She, again, looks like totally freaked out. And he says, good night, Mrs. Jones, because he thinks it was Allie, because why wouldn't he?
Starting point is 01:13:38 Because she has the exact same hair and clothes. No, no, no. This is getting so bad. This is worse than your November. This is worse. This would be a worse way to spend a month. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. Next morning, Allie wakes up to find Hetty
Starting point is 01:13:59 scrubbing the whole apartment clean, like really vigorously cleaning everything. She's wearing gloves, she's wiping everything down. Her room is all packed up and empty. Oh, the night before, I forgot to mention, when she got out of the shower and was being really weird, Allie was like, what's wrong, Hattie, what's going on? And she's like, I know that, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:19 you're gonna make me move out. And Allie's like, yes, I'm sorry. Like Sam and I just, we do, this is our apartment and we do want to live here together. And cause I think she's trying not to tell her like the real thing she knows, which is that you've been lying to me the whole time. You have another name, like I've called your dad.
Starting point is 01:14:33 So she's saying like, yeah, I just need you to move out. That's the only thing that's wrong. And so when she sees Hedy cleaning everything and the next morning she's like, it didn't mean that you had to move out like right away. And Hedy's like, nope, it's okay. I'm just gonna like make it easy for you. And I'm actually gonna go put my stuff downstairs
Starting point is 01:14:50 in storage so that, you know, when I find a new place, I don't have to come up and bother you. So like, don't even worry about it. I'm just like, go downstairs. I'm just gonna like put all my stuff in storage. Like, I'll be right back. And Allie's like, okay, yeah, well, when you come back, why don't we have breakfast together?
Starting point is 01:15:04 And she's like, yeah. So you just like. Okay. Leaves the apartment. Halle puts the morning news on and she's like, going to make some breakfast and sees a story about a body having been discovered in the apartment building that is,
Starting point is 01:15:21 she knows to be Sam's apartment. She calls the front desk and is like, please can you, can you place a call through to apartment 612? And he says, there's been an accident in apartment 612. So she knows that body was Sam's. Runs to the bathroom is like immediately gonna be sick. Starts like dry heaving into the toilet,
Starting point is 01:15:41 looks over on the bathroom floor and sees those heels that Allie was wearing last night, one of them with like a bloody tip. Oh my God. You're doing so much cleaning, you don't get rid of those heels? Or maybe she wanted her to find them? Yeah, that is kind of wild.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah. But she's crying and retching in the toilet. Hattie comes back up and is like, Allie, Allie, what's wrong? She turns the news off. She's like, Allie, Allie, what's wrong? And Allie's like, I don't know. I suddenly just felt really sick.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Hi, I hope I'm not pregnant. And Hedy's like, oh, it's okay. Like, come on, like, come, come, why don't you go lie down? Everything's fine. And she's like, no, no, no, I think I'm gonna, I think I'm just gonna go upstairs and see Graham. And Hedy's like, she's wearing her like slip from sleeping. It's like really see through.
Starting point is 01:16:28 And Hedy's like, Hedy looks to the ground, sees the heels. So I think Hedy's like, she knows. And she says to Allie like, oh, you can't go out in that. Like, shouldn't you go put some clothes on? And Allie's like, yeah, yeah, let me just go get dressed. Like both of them 100% knowing that each of them knows, but it's like, how far is this going to go? Ali goes into her room, starts getting dressed.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Hedy follows her in and she goes, so I guess you know about Sam. Oh shit. Oh, you don't like that. And Ali says, why did you, why did you do that, Hedy? Why did you kill him? And he's like, you killed him, didn't you? And Hedy's like, well, he came in my mouth and then didn't want me to tell you about it.
Starting point is 01:17:15 So I think he deserved it. And. Oh, bitch. This is so ridiculous. Yeah, so Ali's like, I can't believe you'd do that. I can't believe you'd hurt Sam. Like, what are you gonna do? Like, everyone's gonna, you know, obviously the police are gonna find you.
Starting point is 01:17:37 And Hattie's like, how are the police gonna find me? No one knows I live here. I'm not on the lease. There's no fingerprints. I've just cleaned the entire apartment. And they saw you leaving his building last night. So I think actually what needs to happen is you need my help. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:17:56 She has a gun. She holds Ali at gunpoint. She's like, so you're gonna need to come with me and I'm gonna help you get out of this. Like you need me now. What? She holds her at gunpoint. She's like, come on, let's go upstairs.
Starting point is 01:18:08 We're gonna go to Graham's apartment. And Allie's like, no, no, no, we don't need to involve Graham. And Hattie's like, oh, Graham's already involved. So Allie doesn't know that Hattie has already attacked him. Go up to Graham's apartment. Hattie duct tapes Allie to a chair, tape over her mouth, tape through this chair,
Starting point is 01:18:27 the arms and legs. Is Graham in there like dead? We see later Graham's body like in the bathtub. Okay. We haven't gotten there yet, but. Okay. Yeah, so she puts Allie in front of the TV and puts the TV on, is like, here, watch something.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I gotta go cash a few checks and then I will be back. And we, oh, she comes out, she's dyed her hair back to brown. So she still has the haircut, but now she doesn't look like Ali anymore. She's got her hair brown. She's like, oh, I loved that color. I loved your hair color, but you know, obviously I have to change my hair now.
Starting point is 01:19:01 And she's like, and when I come back, I'm gonna go cash some checks. I wanna come back, we're gonna change your hair and then everything's gonna work out. We're gonna get out of here. Being all cute and friendly. She puts it in front of the TV, like watch something, I'll be back in a little bit.
Starting point is 01:19:15 She leaves, Ally sitting in front of the TV, scrolling through the channels, looking for something loud, lands on like, I don't know, MTV or something that's playing like rock music, rock music, rock and roll music. I've heard of it and turns the volume up. She turns the volume up as loud as it will go. So it's like blasting through the apartment. And we do see a little, a little man in one of the apartments on the floor, like opening his door, being like this loud loud music, calls the super over
Starting point is 01:19:47 to try to get into the apartment. They're knocking on the door. Obviously she's not answering. He's got one of those key rings of 10,000 keys trying to go through and get the door open. Meanwhile, we see Hedy cashing her checks. The woman at the check cashing place is like, are you an actress?
Starting point is 01:20:01 What role are you preparing for now? And she's like, what? And she's like, oh, you're just always changing your hair. Like, what is this next role? I can't wait to see it. And she's like, Oh yeah, hi, I'm an actress. And they say, by the way, um, your dad's been calling here like a bunch of times as someone calling here, asking for you. So I think like you should probably call him back. So how do you like, fuck, fuck, fuck. I really have to get out of here fast.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Gets her money, goes back to the apartment. It's real. Like who's going to get there first is All, gets her money, goes back to the apartment. It's real like, who's gonna get there first? Is Allie gonna get, I mean, is Hedy gonna get there? Is the super gonna get in? Just before the super is able to get into the apartment, Hedy shows up and is like, oh, this is my place, sorry. I'm house sitting with my friend. The TV's on a timer, sorry, I'll turn it off.
Starting point is 01:20:40 She goes in, turns the TV off. She's so mad at Allie. She's like, why the TV off. She's so mad at Ali. She's like, why would you do this? She go, we see her going to the kitchen, like scream like in a fit of rage. It's like, ah! She comes back in holding a big old kitchen knife. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Holds it to Ali's throat and is like, why did you have to do that? God, you just wanna lock me up. You're just like that girl in Tampa. She did the same thing. Just wanted to lock me up. Oh God. She just wanted to get me put away.
Starting point is 01:21:13 And she holds a knife up to her throat. We see it's like starting to make a cut. Allie's trying to say something, but her mouth is duct taped. So Hattie rips the duct tape. She's like, what do you wanna say? And she says like, please Hattie, don't make me leave you.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Smart. Smart. Hattie collapses on the ground, crying, like folds herself into Allie's lap. Allie is stroking her hair, like it's okay. It's okay, Hattie. We see Allie see Graham's wallet on the ground and she sort of kicks it away under a chair.
Starting point is 01:21:44 So I don't know what that's about, but we see her do that. Meanwhile, back to Stephen Tobolowski, we see that he's at work and all of the computers that the, that Ali software was on, start deleting their data. And a message pops up on the screen that says, your invoice is past due, please contact Alison Jones to pay your remaining invoice to retrieve your data. So it's like a security feature, I don't know how the fuck that works, but that she like installed in her software.
Starting point is 01:22:15 So he's furious and is like, fuck, I have to get in touch with her, calls her, she obviously doesn't answer. She had, I guess, written Graham's number for him at one point too, being like, if you ever can't reach me, I'm probably here. So he calls Graham's number and has like Graham's apartment number for some reason very conveniently listed on it. Obviously nobody answers that phone either. So he's like rushes down to find her in person. So that's happening.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Meanwhile, Hedy has Ali at the computer and Ali is like buying them plane flights from New York to LA. And Hedy's like, yeah, we're going to have such a great start in LA together. I can't wait. And I was like, yeah, yeah, it's, it's really going to be great. Should we, should we fly first class? And Hedy's like, I don't know, is it worth it? And Ali says, you know, I saw, we could use Graham's credit card. Like I saw Graham's wallet in the living room. Why don't you go get his credit card and we'll buy the plane tickets on his card. And he's like, oh, it's a great idea.
Starting point is 01:23:12 And Ali's like, yeah, it's somewhere in the living room. Like, look around for it. I'm sure I saw it trying to buy herself time. Meanwhile, she pulls up, I don't know, like a email or a message board or something like puts out like a basically a 911. Like, I don't know, like an email or a message board or something, like puts out like a basically a 911, like I'm at this apartment. This isn't a joke. Like somebody please come and find me.
Starting point is 01:23:32 But before she can press send on that, of course, Hedy pops her head around the corner and sees what she's doing and is fucking furious, unplugs the computer. Foiled again. Foiled again. Don't tell me Steven Talbotoski, the sexual assaults is gonna save her. Well, let's just see what happens. We see Hedy then going down into the basement.
Starting point is 01:24:01 We like cut, she has her gun in her hand and we like cut away. We hear Allison or Allie being like, Hattie, no, no, no, cut away. We see Hattie going down into the basement, looking around. She finds a suitcase of Allison's, of Allie's. She like climbs in it to make sure it can fit a body.
Starting point is 01:24:20 And it's like, okay, great. Brings it upstairs and who does she happen to meet in the elevator? But Stephen Tobolowski, they're both going up to the same apartment, going up to Graham's apartment. Hedy gets out of the elevator, goes up to the door and Stephen Tobolowski is like, do you know Alison Jones? And she's like, nope, I'm sorry, I'm just like, I am just house sitting this apartment.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Like I don't know anybody by that name, sorry. And is trying to just like get into the apartment before he can get in. And he looks at the suitcase and he's like, that suitcase says that it belongs to Alison Jones. So I think you do know her. Hattie tries to barge into the apartment without him. He pushes past her, gets in, sees the alley,
Starting point is 01:25:03 is duct taped now and taped up lying on the ground. He, and I think a really, really unfortunate staging. Perhaps it was intentional. Perhaps it was that this movie was made by a man. He like gets on top of her to try to save her. But I'm like really, really, really gross from the man who's actually assaulted her. Like I just don't want to see that visual.
Starting point is 01:25:21 No, no. But he gets on top of her, is like, oh my God, what's happening? She's like, she's got a gun, like be careful. Hedy, of course, comes up behind him, knocks him off of Allie, slams him in the head, knocking him unconscious, and then grabs a pillow, puts it over his head between his head and the gun,
Starting point is 01:25:43 shoots him in the head. Holy shit. So no, he does not save her. The body count, the body count is really high. Is going up. In this struggle and the screaming and the shooting, we see in the bathroom, we've got Graham's body in the tub, his lovely orange cat alive, sleeping on his chest.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Very cute. So that's so sad. Very cute. That's so sad. But we see a little flicker of movement and Graham starts to open his eyes. Oh! Not dead. Oh! Not dead.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Okay. How long has he been, when did she try to kill him? Like a day. Yeah, it's been like, my friend. This happened like last night. I think it all happens like pretty fast. Okay. So Yeah, it's been like, my brother. This happened like last night. I think it all happens pretty fast. So, yeah, he's been unconscious, but he is not dead. But nobody else knows that.
Starting point is 01:26:33 So then we see, now Hedy's really pissed. And she has Allie sit at the computer and type up her own suicide note. Hedy is dictating to her what she needs to type. She's got a handful of pills that she's gonna give her. And she's like, it's much easier this way, Ali. It could be worse. This is gonna be pretty painless.
Starting point is 01:26:54 I'm doing you a favor. I love it when people who are causing harm. Yeah, this is actually for you. It's just a favor. It's doing it for you. So she takes the, wears the pills into Allie's hand, she takes it, Hedy hands her this glass of water. Allie takes the glass, smashes the glass into Hedy's face,
Starting point is 01:27:15 struggle ensues, they're fighting back and forth, they slam into and through a window, Allie grabs a shard of glass, slashes Hedy's chest. It's not a kill wound, but she gets her a little bit. They're fighting. They're struggling. Hedy does once again get the upper hand. She gets her gun. She's holding it to Ali. When she gets tackled by Graham, Graham's got her. Graham grabs her head, starts slamming her head into the ground. Great. But once again, Hedy sort of starts to get away. Allie grabs Hedy, drags her out of the apartment, says, like, Graham, get away from her. She doesn't want Graham to get hurt anymore.
Starting point is 01:27:54 So she pulls Hedy out of the apartment, slams the door. Also Graham is like pretty fucked up. Yeah, of course. So now they're in the hallway. Hedy has the gun, shoots Allie in the arm. Allie is running away from her, gets into the elevator, but of course that door is jammed. It's not shutting in time.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Hedy gets into the elevator with her. The elevator's going down to the basement now. Hedy is on top of Allie, strangling her. Allie is reaching, trying to get that screwdriver, but before she can grab it, she loses consciousness. Passes out. Oh shit. Heidi checks for a pulse, drags her down into the basement.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Oh shit. Kisses her cheek. No, no, no one's seen this? No one's around? No one's around. Okay. Drags her into the basement, drags her onto the ground, No, no one's seen this, no one's around? No one's around. Okay. Drags her into the basement,
Starting point is 01:28:46 drags her onto the ground, covers her up with a little blanket, goes, starts a fire in the incinerator. Oh my God. Grabs a wheelbarrow, comes back over to grab Allie's body. Allie's body's not there. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:01 She wasn't dead. Okay. And Jennifer recently does this great performance. She's like walking over the way, and she goes like a huge like gasp of surprise that she's not there. So now she's like wandering around. Ali, Ali, where are you? And she also starts getting, it's like, honestly, it's hot.
Starting point is 01:29:19 She's just being like, Ali, I'm really scared. Ali, where are you? But she's also got a big ass fucking hook that she's gonna try to stab her with. She's looking around, we see Adélie hiding up in the rafters. A little rat starts walking towards her and we think, oh no, is this rat gonna give up her position? She tosses the rat down, the rat lands on Hedy
Starting point is 01:29:40 and now Hedy's like trying to get this fucking rat off of her. But then she does look up and think, okay, maybe Ali's up in the rafters. She starts looking to find her up there. Ali's not there. We see she's gotten away again. We see a little piece of her. She's wearing like this blue button up shirt, a little piece of shirt
Starting point is 01:29:59 coming out of like a closet door down there. So Hattie's like, I got you. Comes over to it, opens the closet door. She's not in there. Allie drops down from behind her, stabs her in the back with that screwdriver. We see that her shirt is missing a sleeve. She had like torn off the sleeve just to make it look like she was in that closet.
Starting point is 01:30:20 That is so smart. That is real quick thinking. Stabs her in the back. And... Hedy dies. Okay. Fade to black. Come back up, Allie standing in a new apartment,
Starting point is 01:30:37 her stuff in boxes, staring out the window, saying, I cried for a week after Sam's funeral. Graham tells me I need to try to move on. And I will. Hedy's father told me that, you know, Hedy never forgave herself for her sister dying. And you know, she thinks it was all her fault. Oh, she never forgave herself for living when her sister died.
Starting point is 01:30:55 And so I'm gonna try to forgive Hedy for Sam. And more than that, I'm gonna try to forgive myself because I know what can happen to someone who doesn't. We zoom in on a photo on the table I try to forgive myself because I know what can happen to someone who doesn't. We zoom in on a photo on the table that is a spliced image. It's like half Hedy's face and half Ali's face. And that's the end of the movie.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Wait, she has a photo of their faces spliced together? Yep, I guess so. What? What is that? Don't know why. Okay, we need to know why. Okay. We need to unpack this. Yup.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Okay, whoa. Now I totally know what single white female means. I'd forgotten, but now I know. Now you know. So first of all, did you enjoy the film? Did you enjoy watching it? I really did. I honestly really did.
Starting point is 01:31:43 It seemed fun. It seemed fun. Yeah, it's fun. Really. It seemed fun. Yeah. Really had a fun time. Yeah. Do we think that Hetty killed her sister? Or do you think she was just traumatized from her sister's death? I think the implication is that she was just traumatized.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Or maybe she accidentally killed her or something like that. Yeah. I think it's like, it seems like Hetty is deeply unwell. Like has some sort of trauma related or not mental illness. Because also every time Hetty kills someone, she like feels really bad. Yes, and it seems like it's not the plan. She doesn't go in hoping to kill them,
Starting point is 01:32:15 but she freaks out and gets it over her head and kills them. And all of us are like trying to be just like Allie. It really is her just like wanting a twin really. It's not like, it doesn't seem like evil and manipulative. It's just like, she's really, which is why there's parts that feel a little bit gross in their treatment of Hedy because it's like, she's sick. Yeah, this is someone who's like really sick. Yeah. Sick. Um, cause it never seems like she's some sort of like maniacal manipulative. I think that's one of like the greatest tragedies
Starting point is 01:32:48 of mental illness or people who are like severely mentally ill is oftentimes they are like desperate for connection. Yeah. And everything they're doing to try to make those connections is like- Only making it worse and worse. Only making it so much worse.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Yeah. And that's so fucking sad. So. It really is. Oh my God. I don't know how to feel except that I just need to see pictures of their outfits and you see more pictures of there as twins. Incredible style vibes on Bridget Fonda
Starting point is 01:33:19 in this movie, her outfits are incredible. Was it actually filmed in New York? Also a film actually filmed in New York is also fun. You don't see enough of New York to really know. I know, I think some moments were, but a lot of it was on a soundstage. There was like one apartment building in New York that they did use, I think for some exteriors and stuff,
Starting point is 01:33:34 but it's mostly on a soundstage. Okay. Oh, and the S&M club is like an actual club in the meatpacking district, I saw that too, or like a former club, but yeah. It is, yes, it's very sad. Also weird that you picked this movie because last night I just started watching
Starting point is 01:33:52 Grace and Frankie, Jane Fonda, and have you ever seen Grace and Frankie? I haven't. Okay, so I needed like a comfort watch and I think that's gonna be Seven Seasons, Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin, they're excellent. And what's reminding me of it too, is that like the whole thing is clearly on a soundstage.
Starting point is 01:34:11 They're supposed to be living, like sharing a beach house in Santa Monica. And it is, it reminds me because I watched a lot of Netflix series try to work and Netflix over and over again, kept trying to make these like 30 minute comedies I've watched a lot of Netflix series try to work and Netflix over and over again kept trying to make these like 30 minute comedies on sound stages with like a green screen in the background.
Starting point is 01:34:33 And it always never worked because it looks like shit and it's like obvious that they're not at the beach. And it works for Grace and Frankie just because of the star power, because you have like the best actresses walking this planet. And so if you have like literally the best actors, then sure, you can get away with a green screen.
Starting point is 01:34:57 And I was just really thinking about that watching that last night. I was like, dang, they are carrying this because it is laughable how obviously fake it looks. Everything looks. Anyway, I'd rather think about Grayson Franke than single white female. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:35:14 That's fair. But truly I had a great time and it was honestly really funny and fun. And Jennifer Jason Lee is just so good. So good. I've just never seen her that young. Right. It was really, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:29 This is early, early Jennifer Jason Lee. She's really cool, man. She's so cool. So that was fun. That was fun. But yeah, I mean, some troubling thoughts about mental illness, some, you know, depictions of sexual assault that are, you know, not
Starting point is 01:35:46 great and a little bit gratuitous with female nudity. So there's some things. There's some things. But also, you guys, it's available to stream. It came out in the 90s and it wasn't that scary. So those were my parameters. Also, you know, it's so weird, the erotic thriller phase in the 90s, you know, we haven't returned to it.
Starting point is 01:36:05 But one of the key components is women are nuts. Like women are the problem, right? Well, they are. In every single one. And man, it's just making me mad. Like sex is so backwards. We have sex all wrong. We have it so wrong.
Starting point is 01:36:22 I couldn't believe Sam was, Joel, we couldn't believe she took him back. He did not apologize. Yeah, yeah. But we didn't deal with that one bit. She was like, all forgiven, who cares? I don't mind. All forgiven, all forgiven.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Wow. I will say, I also, Henley, I really tried to pick a movie that didn't have kids in it. Thank you. I really tried to do that for you. Thank you. I tried watching a TV show before I watched Grace and Frankie. I tried to watch the TV show from, have you heard of this?
Starting point is 01:36:50 It's on its third season. I've just been hearing that people really like it. Talk about the opposite, terrible acting, terrible acting. But also it's like a post-apocalyptic thing. And there were so many kids immediately. So many kids were dying or in peril. And I was like, I just can't do this. I can't.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Yeah, no children in peril in this one. A dog does die and I am sorry about that. I am sorry about that. The cat lives. Cat lives. That's nice. Fantastic. So, you know, I almost,
Starting point is 01:37:22 I wanted to pick a haunting in Connecticut knowing nothing about it other than I thought that'd be probably funny, but I, I wanted to pick Haunting in Connecticut, knowing nothing about it other than I thought that'd be probably funny, but I didn't want to watch it. So there you go. There you go. I'm glad you picked this one. This is a good one. Now I've been educated.
Starting point is 01:37:34 You've been educated. I know more than I did at the beginning of this episode. Yes. Yes. The very, very current cultural reference of single white female. You now know. Yeah. Thank you. thank God, thank you. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:37:48 That was fun. And also, I'm always so impressed with your ability to just recall everything from memory. You only looked at your notes like twice. Oh my God, thank you. You just remember the whole movie. It's a memorable one, I'll give it that. It's very impressive.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I love you. I love you, hun. Hey, guess what? It's December, baby. I love you. I love you, hun. Hey, guess what? It's December, baby. Ooh, yeah. It's December. It's a whole new freaking world. I think December is gonna be great.
Starting point is 01:38:14 I think so too. So. Love you. Yeah, and Samuel will be back next week. Everything's looking up. Love you. We love you. Talk to you later.
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