Too Scary; Didn't Watch - SPEAK NO EVIL (US REMAKE)

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

We are REPAIRING, MENDING, and HEALING old wounds today by revisiting the bleakest film we've ever discussed, SPEAK NO EVIL -- only this time we get to swoon over a swol James McAvoy in the U...S remake! Join us for this purely cathartic experience (also don't worry, 7 sleeping pills and a handle of scotch did NOT get consumed during this episode/Henley is still living!).Movie Intro & Trivia @ 14:59Recap starts @ 23:32TrailerSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Henley and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sami and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to and Emily is on her honeymoon. Can you believe it? Oh my God. Oh, we miss her so, but we know that her and Joel are having the time of their freaking
Starting point is 00:00:52 lives. Best time in Europe. Yes. Just frolicking around Europe. I'm so jealous. I wish I was doing that. I'm jealous too. I want to do that.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I want to do that real bad. Especially considering what we'll be doing instead today. No, in Emily's absence, Henley, I feel like you suggested you and I revisiting an old wound. Oh no. Wait, no, wait, no, wait, no, wait, no, wait, no, wait, no, wait, no, wait, no. Trying to heal some parts of our friendship that may have suffered over the course of- Oh my God, you're right, I did. I did say that I was okay with this and I forgot.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I think I'd taken about seven sleeping pills and I wasn't thinking straight. Oh no. Well, you know, we're just gonna see what happens. Maybe we'll be healing wounds, maybe we'll be deepening wounds. And- What a cavalier comment.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Only time will tell. If you wanna go straight to our recap to find out what that's gonna be, there are timestamps in the show notes because first we have a little bit of haunted housekeeping, which is that, this is also bad news in a way. Well, this is, you know what? I don't mind this as much.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Okay, yes, that's true. It won't be as difficult for you, but which is that we have a live show coming up on October 27th at 5 p.m. Pacific, 8 p.m. Eastern, where we will be recapping Terrifier 3. This will be a virtual show available on our Patreon at patreon.com slash TSDW podcast. So don't need to buy tickets. You just need to be a member of our Patreon at the Tony fucking Colette level. And that'll just be in the, in the feed.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Sammy's already been sending costume inspo photos around. I've, I've pulled the trigger. I think I know I've, I've decided what I'm going to be and we're going to see what happens, but I think you guys will be shocked and impressed, hopefully impressed and disgusted at the same time. Yeah. but I think you guys will be shocked and impressed. Hopefully impressed. And disgusted at the same time. Yeah, and Emily mentioned having a pretty good idea as well.
Starting point is 00:03:11 She was excited about her costume. She is gonna be just one day back from her honeymoon, so she will probably be quite jet lagged. I have an idea for mine. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pull it off, but I have a pretty good idea of what I'm gonna do. So, and also, if you guys remember last year, I honored Terrifier last year with my tiny little hat.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And I just had May only a few days prior, but I put that hat on and I felt like a million bucks. I mean, you know, could be fitting for this year as well. Yeah, maybe I could revisit it. No, no, no, I'm going to do something different. I'm going to do something different. Yeah, I mean, none of us liked Terrifier or Terrifier 2. None of us out there.
Starting point is 00:04:01 But we must recap, Terrifier 3. Yeah, it's our job. We just have to do it. Yeah, we just have to do it what we've been hired to do. Buckle down and do it. By the people. Do the job. Of the world.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The people of the world. We owe them everything. So yeah, that'll be our Halloween show for the year. And it's gonna be great. So see you there. See you there. And okay, other than Emily not being here today, Henley, did anything scary happen to you this week?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Well, I think I've shared with you that Silas is taking cello lessons. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This might be the first time I've mentioned it on the podcast, but at this church where we live, there is a music school that is also here. It's a Suzuki music school and they rehearse in various places, including the first floor of the house where we live.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And so I've spent the past year with Silas as he has just stared dreamily at these children playing instruments and wanting to do it, longing to do it. So against every part of my body that has ever thought of how I would raise my children, I never thought that I would put a three-year-old in cello lessons, nonetheless. Here we are. That is what has happened. And I am going to be honest, I didn't really understand what we were signing up for. It is a big commitment. I'm actually, I'm really excited. I think that it's going to be a learning experience for me as much as it is for Silas. Yeah. For anyone who's familiar with the Suzuki school,
Starting point is 00:05:50 it's about learning the instrument, but it's more about like emotional learning, emotional intelligence and like building resilience to do hard things. So it's not just about like learning the instrument. It's also learning like how to learn and how to overcome the parts of yourself that are resistant to learning or doing hard things. And there are two lessons a week, one private lesson and one group lesson. And we're supposed to rehearse every day, or practice every day. So we've been doing that. And the first four group lessons, it was no children, it was just adults.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And so, you know, I show up not knowing what to expect. Well, as you might anticipate, the adults who have chosen to do this with their three-year-olds, a lot of them were Suzuki kids themselves. So half of my class are women who know how to play the cello. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And then there's a man who owns a music store, who's like a musician and owns a music store. And then there's me, who has no musical abilities whatsoever. I've heard salty buttery toast. Oh, you're right, you're right. That's what I peeked. That's all I got. That's all I got. Don't have anything else. But part of it is you like learn how to play the instrument with your child. And so I have been learning how to play the cello. Wow. This is unexpected.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I know how to play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on the cello. I don't want to brag or I don't want to brag, but I've also been having to do that in front of, you know, a group of people who are people who have been playing cello for their whole lives. And everyone is very kind and luckily I don't feel too embarrassed because there's no part of me that is thinks I would ever be good at this. Right. You're not trying to master the cello. No, of course not. I couldn't, I could never even deign to try. But for this whole process we're going through,
Starting point is 00:07:51 I have to, you know, learn how to do some things. Anyway, so that is what's going on with me. And I can't, I can't believe it. I mean, I just hope we can stick to it. I think that's my main goal. You know that I took adult violin lessons. Oh, what? In Los Angeles and had to do a live show at the end of the, like a performance at the
Starting point is 00:08:22 end of the, like a performance at the end of the class. And it was with mostly children who were so good at violin. And then, and then me in the adult beginners class with a couple other adults that when it was our turn, we played a scale. Great. And probably something like Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star as well. And it's just all parents of children in the audience like clapping. And I was so nervous that my hands were shaking and in violin you can really hear it when your hands are shaking. Oh, it was funny.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Violin seems harder because you're standing, you have your head in a weird place. It's like you have to hold your arm up in a certain way. At least with the cello, you're sitting. It's pretty comfortable. Yeah, it is physically uncomfortable. And I didn't continue after that, but I do still have violin. So I don't know, maybe you're inspiring me
Starting point is 00:09:19 and maybe you and I can start a little band. Whoa, it would be so good. You and Silas can perform together. My God, Silas is gonna get so much better than us so fast. Oh yeah, I don't know. God love him. God love him. Well, I previously shared on the podcast
Starting point is 00:09:40 that I have recently made a purchase of a king size bed upgraded from a queen, from a queen to a king and greatest purchase ever. But one downside is that the comforter I use does not fit in my washer and dryer. So I had to go to laundromat for the first time in a while, which was fine. I liked bring a book, which was fine. I liked, you know, bring a book.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It's great. And I actually found that the laundromat is cheaper than my machines that are shared in my building. So just kind of interesting. So we'll see. But anyway, so I'm there with my book. I put this big comforter in the washer and then change it to the dryer, finishes. I'm getting ready to go.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And then I realize I can't find my sunglasses. And like, this is so weird. I've been sitting in this one spot this whole time. Oh no. And I know that I had them because they were like hung on the collar of my shirt. And so I was like, what the fuck? And I do a lap of the laundromat.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I'm like, maybe I dropped them somewhere. Maybe I set them down on top of one of the washer dryers. Do a lap, I can't find them anywhere. So I'm like, I guess somebody stole them. I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. But I get in my car and I'm about ready to leave. And then I'm like, wait, there's one place that I could check. I go and look inside the dryer and they're mangled, glued to the top of the dryer with
Starting point is 00:11:17 the little arms bent all different angles, wrapping into the little holes in the dryer. At least they weren't in your comforter, like destroyed your comforter. Yeah, yeah. No, they just got a good dry clean and it really made me laugh. And I pulled them out and I was actually kind of able to bend them back into shape for the most part because they're wire sunglasses. And it just really made me laugh.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Because of this big comforter, it just completely muffled the sounds of my sunglasses. Clanking around in there. Clanking around, it was completely silent. And yeah, so just a warning for those of us who don't do laundry at laundromats very often, just be mindful of your personal belongings. And this is very different, but it's reminding me of a story that Taylor Tomlinson tells
Starting point is 00:12:16 in her standup or I can't remember, but she told this story about how she goes to sleep with her AirPods in and that's how she falls asleep, is like listening to something. And she woke up at midnight or something, and one of her AirPods, she couldn't find it. And she looked everywhere, she looked under pillows, looked everywhere. And then she was like, I swallowed it. I swallowed it. That's the only option. So she woke her sister up, forced her sister to drive her.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It was also Christmas Eve, I think. So forced her sister to drive her to the emergency room on Christmas Eve and goes up to the front desk to tell them like, you know, why are you here? And she's like, I swallowed one of my AirPods. I'm pretty sure I swallowed one of my AirPods. And the women at the desk are like, honey, no, you didn't. What? She's like, I fell asleep. I woke up. Like there's like, I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure I swallowed it. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:17 okay. And then she sits in the waiting room. She waits. She gets seen by someone throughout all this. She's like, you would think at some point I would be like, maybe I didn't swallow it, maybe I should go back and look a little bit harder. While she's waiting for the test results, her other sister calls her back and is like, we found it. It was under your bed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Oh God. Can you imagine? A couple hundred dollars later. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. They are so expensive. I know. And like I have anxiety, but at least I don't have the kind of anxiety where I would be
Starting point is 00:13:51 able to convince myself that thoroughly that I swallowed my AirPod. Yeah. Yeah. That's very funny. I feel like sleeping in AirPods would hurt. I know. I guess I don't have any. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Unless you're sleeping right on your back. Yeah. Oh yeah. I don't sleep like that. The other day I slept on my face so hard that I feel like my eyelids bent inwards and my eyelashes were in my eye. And I woke up and I was like, oh, my eye really hurts. And then I was like, oh, because I was shoving my face into my pillow so hard that I'm pushing my eyes in. Yep. That's how I sleep too. It's my preferred way of sleeping. Everyone says that's the worst way to sleep. It's terrible for your back. It's terrible for your back.
Starting point is 00:14:32 But I love it. Ooh, I love to sleep on my stomach. It's so comforting. You can't sleep any other way. Okay. Should we get into this week's movie? No, I don't want to. Okay, should we get into this week's movie? No, I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's going to be, you know, not dissimilar to last week where we did Halloween, which we have done a Halloween previously, but it wasn't the same Halloween. It was kind of like a Halloween too, but it was still called Halloween. This week we are doing Speak No Evil. We have done a movie called Speak No Evil before. This one is a remake. And I heard the ending. I heard the ending isn't as bad. And so that's why I was willing to I was willing to revisit this. Yes, I was willing to revisit it. So for those of you that don't know the original Speak No Evil is a Danish film that came out in 2022. And typically when foreign horror movies are remade
Starting point is 00:15:28 in English immediately, it's just kind of annoying. It's like to have it so that American audiences don't need to read subtitles. And, you know, it's just a little annoying. So I feel like I wasn't very excited about this movie. I never saw the Good Night Mommy remake. I feel like in general, I'm wary of an American remake. But yeah, you under the influence of multiple sleeping pills said that you were open to it and I kind of... My was, my plan was to watch it and see if it was gonna be worth talking about
Starting point is 00:16:07 because I had doubts that it would be worth revisiting and then I'm not gonna lie, I kind of liked this movie. I'm a little embarrassed to admit it, but. Why are you embarrassed to admit it? I don't know, it just feels like. Oh, because you feel like you're portraying the first one by liking the American remake? Yeah. Well, yeah, that's okay. Exactly. I understand. I understand that. But okay. So this speaking of evil came out this year, 2024 written and directed by James Watkins, who is the
Starting point is 00:16:38 guy that made Eden Lake. Another movie with a very bleak ending, similar to the original Speak No Evil. It is of course based on the screenplay by Christian and Mads Taftrup. They are the Danish filmmakers that made the original. This is starring James McVoy, Mackenzie Davis, Ashlyn Franciosi, and Scoot McNary. And it's still in theaters, I think, but you can also rent it on VOD. And yeah, wow. I remember thinking great cast, but why do we need this?
Starting point is 00:17:22 And we can get into those questions at the end. Ah, ah, ah, ah. It has an 83% on Rotten Tomatoes, 66 on Metacritic, and 6.9 on IMDB, nice. Nice. The original had an 84% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 78% on Metacritic, and a 6.6 on IMDB. So pretty comparable ratings,
Starting point is 00:17:51 which is the first thing that made me think, oh, maybe I should watch it. So I was planning on skipping it. Oh God, I can't believe I egged this on. I brought this upon myself. I brought it upon myself, which is, you know, actually this is a good lesson from the movie too. Don't invite this kind of thing in.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You have to stand up for yourself. No one's gonna stand up for yourself except for you. And you gotta say, you got, when the answer is no, you gotta just have a clear, hard no. Clear boundaries. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yep. Wow. The budget was 15 million and it made 68.9 million. So, did pretty well.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And I don't know if we said this in the original Speak No Evil episode, but I guess the story is inspired by the experiences of Christian Taftrup, who's the director of the original. And he said that when he and his wife were on vacation in Tuscany, they befriended a Dutch couple who did invite them to visit them afterwards.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And he said they briefly considered it, but then decided not to because they were strangers. And then he just imagined- All the worst possible things that could have happened, like the absolute worst outcome of that, he said. That sucks for that Dutch couple who were probably trying to be really nice and- I know. They like see this movie and like, is this that guy that we met in Italy? Did he write this movie?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Like, is that what he thought of us? Is that what he seemed to? It's very funny. James McAvoy said that he purposely did not watch the original Speak No Evil before working on this movie because he didn't want it to influence his performance. And I'll just say here straight off the bat, James McAvoy is amazing in this. I love him. I actually think everyone was really good in it. I mean- Mackenzie Davis.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I like all of these actors. I love Scoop McNary. I love Ashleen Franciosi. What else has she been in? The main character in the Nightingale, which- Oh, right, right, right, of course, yes. I love a lot. Apparently she was in Game of Thrones also,
Starting point is 00:20:01 but I don't remember her in that. I think probably a smaller role in that. But James McAvoy is just unbelievable. He's very good at being terrifying. He's so scary in it. And yeah, I thought very good performance. There's something that's more palatable to me about James McAvoy to being the evil one, just because I love James McAvoy. Anyway, he decides to show up on the screen. That's right, that's right. I accept him.
Starting point is 00:20:32 It is a entertaining performance. The director had never heard of the original film when he was first approached to do the remake. And after watching it, he said that he was really impressed by it and said it reminded him of the ending of his own Eden Lake, which yeah, they're both like very bleak endings. And apparently he didn't know this,
Starting point is 00:20:56 but Christian Taftrup had originally said that Eden Lake was one of his reference points when he was making Speak No Evil. So this is a dinner party I don't want to go to. I don't want to go to a dinner party with these two people. I don't want them anywhere near me. And I don't want to be part of any of their conversations, but no, to each his own, to each his own.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And we will watch the trailer at the end. We won't have it in this episode. It's kind of a joke. This trailer, I think was attached to every single movie at the end, we won't have it in this episode. It's kind of a joke. This trailer, I think, was attached to every single movie at the time that it was coming out. So most people have seen this trailer 100 million times. And so I feel like I don't want to put anyone through having to listen to it if you don't want to. So you can go to our Patreon if you want to check out our trailer reaction, because we are going to get straight into this recap and see if we can heal ourselves.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I think it would only be fair, you know, it's 3.33 p.m. here. It would only be fair if I took seven sleeping pills right now before we dive in because seven sleeping pills and a handle of scotch. I think that might kill you. I think I got to draw the line somewhere. Seven sleeping pills, fine. Seven sleeping pills and a handle of scotch. At 3.30 on a Sunday? A handle too is so funny to suggest, not a bottle. A handle. A full handle. I was trying to remember the names of the different quantities and I wanted
Starting point is 00:22:39 to say like the smaller one. What's the small one? Like a flask? Flask. A flask. Yeah, yeah. But like, is that what the, what's the bottle called? A fifth? Oh yeah, a fifth. A fifth. Okay. That's what I meant to say. A fifth of Scotch. That won't kill me. That'll just take the edge off along with the seventh leaf.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That'll just take the edge off and you'll still be totally capable of hearing and responding to a recap and totally knowing where you are and all of that stuff. At the end, I'll still be able to play Twinkle Twinkle on the cello. We will be doing that. That'll be in the trailer. You got to click check in and see, can you still do it?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Can you still do it? Maybe that can be in the live show. Oh my God, great idea. Okay, I'm ready. All right, let's do it. Ooh, baby, I'm so excited that I get to tell you about one of our favorite sponsors, Skims, and remind you that they have the best bras in the game. I hated wearing underwire bras for years.
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Starting point is 00:25:02 It's been so, so hot in Los Angeles. We decided it was time to up our bedding game as the weather turns cooler and at Sammy's recommendation, I went straight to Quince to get a new freaking comforter. It is so soft and cozy. I feel like I'm on a cloud. And guess what? Bedding is freaking expensive and the bedding at Quince is super reasonably priced. And it's not just bedding. I mean, Quince has all sorts of wonderful items. Leather jackets, soft denim, cashmere sweaters, all priced 50 to 80% less than similar brands because Quince partners directly with Top Factories, cutting out the cost of the middleman and passing the savings on to
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Starting point is 00:26:37 are speaking their native language when they're together, I feel like played a big part in the movie because they're all speaking English. And so there's this kind of question of things getting lost in translation that adds a good layer of mystery and doubt to the original movie. And so, and also just that the original is kind of showing how Danish people specifically are very accommodating and afraid to say no to things and too polite to their own detriment. I think this actually did a pretty good job of updating it to reflect these couples in this movie are American and British. I'll just say some of the things that I think helped retain some
Starting point is 00:27:28 of the spirit of the original movie without, but updating it to not feel just like weird and unbelievable. So we begin with the main titles over a sequence of a car driving through dark country roads. And we just see a scared looking little boy in the back seat through the rear view mirror. And then we cut to the beautiful Italian landscapes. And we see our main characters, this American couple, Louise and Ben, played by Mackenzie Davis and Scoop McNary, who are also both in Hull and Catch Fire, a great show, love them, and their daughter Agnes, who is 11. The names in the original, just
Starting point is 00:28:24 because it's kind of funny. This is Louise, Ben and Agnes and in the original it's Louisa, Bjorn and Agnes. So just we're like Bjorn. Close enough. We got to make Ben. So it does begin with them at a poolside at this like resort or villa place that they're staying on vacation, Agnes in the pool, them lounging, reading books in little pool chairs, looks lovely. When James McAvoy, who is British, comes up and points to the chair next to them, that's Agnes's chair, has Agnes's stuffed rabbit on it and her towel and her book and says, like, can we use this chair? And they both look a little
Starting point is 00:29:10 shocked that he's asking, but then grab her stuff off and they're like, yeah, sure. And then James McAvoy drags it off really loudly. Like it's just scraping on the concrete, like as they go to their side of the pool. And we see he's joining his wife and son, presumably, and they're ordering beers, even though it's early in the morning. Ben is looking envious of this and turns to Louise and says, should we get some beer? And Louise looks confused and says, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:44 it's so early. I mean, you can get one if you want, but no, I don't want to drink beer right now. So there's an immediate kind of, well, tension, admiration, but tension of like, we're getting the sense that Ben is a little like, Ooh, that couple's kind of free spirited drinking beer, having fun in a way that maybe me and my wife aren't. So maybe he's a little jealous, but also we're nervous because we saw the original movie. Yeah, we know what happens. We fucking know. They later that night are getting ready for dinner.
Starting point is 00:30:17 They make a comment about hoping they don't sit next to that annoying Danish couple again, a little reference to the original. They're just constantly shitting on this Danish couple, which is kind of funny and kind of rude. And I'm like, is this a joke with the previous writer directors or is it making fun of them? I hope this was all in good fun. You too. Because they're just like, oh, these Danish couples are so annoying.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And they do end up sitting next to the Danish couple at dinner. And James McAvoy looks over at Ben, Scoop McNary, and kind of makes a face at them, like rolls his eyes like, oh, I feel bad for you guys having to sit next to that annoying couple. And they quietly laugh, share that little moment of like, oh, we're on the same page that this Danish couple is really annoying. So next day, they're out in the town going to lunch or something. When Agnes realizes she can't find Hoppy, her stuffed bunny, and she immediately starts having a panic attack and like scratching at her skin and she's like,
Starting point is 00:31:27 which I thought was a good addition because again, in the original movie, I guess I'll stop doing all these asides about the original movie, but if you've seen the original, you'll know why this is, I think, a smart addition. So she's having a full blown panic attack with this bunny missing. And they do have conversations about like, we need to figure out this Hoppy situation. She's 11 now, she's almost 12, we need to figure
Starting point is 00:31:56 this out. And so it's more of a thing than it was in the original where it's clear that she has a huge attachment and dependence on Hoppy and they're trying to figure it out, but they're in a foreign country right now. And it's like, they're like, well, you know, we're, we're out of town. It's making her feel safe. It's making her feel like it's we're at home. So we need to find Hoppy. So Ben goes retracing their steps, looking for Hoppy, can't find him anywhere. When he rejoins his family, they have now met up with James McAvoy's family and he has found Hoppe and has given it back to Agnes. And so now they introduce themselves all to each other. James McAvoy is Patty and his wife is Kira, that's Aisling Franciosi, and their son is Ant. And he has a condition where it's hard for him to speak. They pulled up on a Vespa at first and Ben
Starting point is 00:32:57 compliments Patty, says, that's a great Vespa. And he's like, oh yeah, it's been so fun riding around on this thing. And Agnes says like, oh, that seems so cool. I wish I could ride on one. And Patty immediately is like, I could take you around the block real quick. And we can see that this makes Louise uncomfortable and Ben. And they're like, I don't think so. That's probably not a good idea. Like he doesn't even have helmets. Patty is immediately like, just around the block. Like it won't be, it's totally safe. Like it'll just be, you know, one minute and it'll just do like a very quick little ride around the block. And Agnes is going, please, why please dad? And so immediately he is pushing those boundaries, making them
Starting point is 00:33:43 uncomfortable, making them agree to something they don't really want to agree to, but they reluctantly say, okay. And so Agnes gets on the Vespa with Patty, they zoom off and turn a corner, we're hearing honking, we're hearing like break squealing. It's like pretty comical how immediately bad it sounds. But then they, you know, whip around the other corner and pull back and they're fine.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And Agnes has a big smile on her face. It's so fun. Everything's fine. Everything's great. Everything's great. They all get dinner together that night and they're finding out a little bit more about each other. Patty and his family are from the West country in England and Ben and Louise and Agnes have recently moved to London
Starting point is 00:34:38 for Ben's job, but then Ben was let go from his job. I can't remember what his job is. I think it's some, I can't remember, but they basically moved there for Ben's job and then he immediately lost that job. And so now he's trying to find another job there, but clear that they are pretty new to London and trying to make it work there, but haven't quite got their footing yet. make it work there, but haven't quite got their footing yet. Then the Danish couple walks up and they all kind of exchange groans and they're like, oh, they're going to try to sit with us. Well, it makes them so annoying. Like, how are they annoying? There's nothing. They just like all hate them.
Starting point is 00:35:18 For no reason at all. I think it's literally just as a joke about the last movie, but yes, they don't do a good job of making it anchored in any real reason. And so they're about to join the table when Patty says, "'Oh, this is perfect. "'We were just having a conversation "'and we need you to be a tiebreaker. "'When you wipe your ass, do you fold the toilet paper
Starting point is 00:35:44 "'or do you scrunch it?' And they're like, because we both fold and they both scrunch and like, you'll be the tiebreakers. And clearly this conversation is making them very uncomfortable. And so, and it is intended to do just that. So then they're like, okay, yeah, pull up a chair. And they're like, Oh, no, we actually have a reservation, but we'll catch up with you later or something. So it works. And they all laugh. And Ben very much has this face of admiration for Patty and the way that he's able to handle these social situations
Starting point is 00:36:18 and kind of be assertive to have the outcome that he wants type of thing. I hate this. I hate it so much. But then the trip comes to an end. They go back to London. Ben finds out that one of the jobs he had been interviewing for, he did not get it. And so he's feeling very bummed out. They get a postcard from Patty and Kira. That is a photo of the six of them all together in Italy with a message on the back inviting them to come stay with them in the West country. Louise quickly says, you know, we don't know them. I don't think that's necessarily a great idea. Ben looks really deflated and sad and is like, yeah, you're probably right. And she has this moment of kind of taking pity on him because he's just been rejected
Starting point is 00:37:18 from this job and he just seems really down. And so she puts on a smile and says, you know what, let's do it. No, no, no, don't do it. And so they go. They follow the directions they've been given. They are seeming like they're getting lost. It's in the middle of nowhere. There's no houses around. It's just countryside for miles and miles. And then they finally find it and they arrive and it's huge. There's a gate that they have to be let into like an electric fence type thing, not electrocuted, but you know what I mean, what are those called?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Just a standard like rich person gate, gated house. And they pull in and are greeted by Patty and Kira, who give them a little tour of the house. And even though the property is really big and there are multiple structures on it, there's a barn and a main main house and it seems very big, but yet inside is a little bit shoddy and not very well kept up.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And there aren't a lot of rooms with beds in them. So it's the same as the first one. They still have a pretty small room and Agnes is given just a little couple pillows on the floor in aunt's room. So she'll be sleeping on the floor in his room. And aunt, aunt, this is when you start, you know, writing. Yes. Very evil. Don't trust them. And Louise and Ben are trying to be really polite, like, oh my gosh, thank you so much. But their bed's really small, it has stains on it.
Starting point is 00:39:10 She's like, looks like, she's like, it doesn't even look like they wash these sheets. But they set their stuff down and they, you know, it's dinner time, they're gonna go down and have some food. They're like, whatever, we're here, let's just enjoy it. So they go downstairs. Previously in Italy, we had learned that Louise is a vegetarian.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Right, this whole thing. And they come down and Patty announces that in honor of their visit, they have killed the family goose, who they loved very, very much, but she lived a long life and they are having this emotional moment. Like she was such a good goose. And because you guys are our guests, like you have to have the first bite and hands
Starting point is 00:39:59 a fork full to Louise, who is about to say that she's vegetarian and then her and Ben share this look of like, oh, they're just so uncomfortable. And so she eats it and goes, so good. And as soon as they're not looking, she spits it out into her hand. But we're pretty sure that Patty remembered that she's vegetarian. So yeah, we're not loving this. Dinner continues. They have a fine evening. And then at some point, Ben goes to take the trash out and aunt follows him out and then opens his mouth
Starting point is 00:40:46 and shows him that his tongue is missing. He has no tongue and so he's just like, ah, ah, ah. So sad, oh, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. But immediately Patty comes out and is like, Aunt, you know, get over here. So Ben is just weirded out by that. But then they go to bed. So next day, both or like all of them go out together,
Starting point is 00:41:11 exploring the countryside, very beautiful. And we're noticing moments where Patty is a little aggressive with Ant, kind of manhandles him in a way that's inappropriate, like elbowing him or shoving him like kind of like be a man, like, oh, he's so like bad at football. I wish he'd get better at football. And it's just being really, um, Abusive. Yeah, aggressive with him and abusive and not fully crossing the line into like, hey,
Starting point is 00:41:40 you can't do that. But like very much giving that vibe. Yeah. And then Louise has a sore neck that she's been having for a while and is kind of complaining about it. And Patty has told them that he's a doctor. So he's like, let me take a look at it. And she's like, okay. And he cups his hands around her cheeks and is like feeling around and then just snaps,
Starting point is 00:42:08 like cracks her neck. And I mean, it seems like it helps, but I feel like you can't do that without warning. Without warning, it really upset me. I was like, if anyone just- Like cracked your neck? Did really upset me. I was like, if anyone just... Like cracked your neck? Did that to me. I'd be so upset.
Starting point is 00:42:30 So they then find this lake, that there's a little like cliff jump into the lake that they want to do or that Patty and Kira want to do. And they're like, oh, come on, we're gonna go swimming. A cold plunge is so good for you. And everyone says, we didn't bring our bathing suits. And he says, oh, that's okay. You just go in your underwear.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And there's a lot of comments here that are inappropriate. Kira says, you don't have to be embarrassed, Louise. You have a great body. And then Patty kind of looks over and gives this like, yeah, she does look that's like, oh my God, there's so many things where it's like, why are you there? Leave, leave, leave, leave.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And as they are getting undressed down to their underwear, Louise notices that Kira has bruises all along her side and she points at them. It's like, oh my God, Kira, what happened? Kira has bruises all along her side and she points at them. It's like, oh my God, Kira, what happened? Kira smiles and is like, oh, things got a little rough last night if you know what I mean. Okay. And Louise is getting undressed really slowly. It's clear that she's uncomfortable. So yeah, everybody else jumps into the water and it's clear that Ant can't swim. He immediately starts drowning.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Louise is still on the little cliff and can see this and is like, can Ant not swim? What's happening? And Patty's like, oh, he's fine, he's fine, he'll be fine and kind of swims over to him and pulls him up and holds him. Oh, God. Oh, God. So stressed out. I'm so stressed out. Very clear this boy can't swim and seems like they didn't know that. Or maybe they did. So we don't like that. They go back after their day out. it's like early evening now
Starting point is 00:44:25 and they're in the room getting changed and showering and I think Louise mentions being a little uncomfortable but Ben's like, I'm having a good time. I'm having a great time. Ben, where's your head at? Where's your head at, dude? You are not reading the room. No.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Read the room. And then Kira comes in and says, I'd like to invite you guys for dinner tonight. Dude, you are not reading the room. No. Read the room. And then Kira comes in and says, I'd like to invite you guys for dinner tonight. There's a little, really small little restaurant where the guy, we're friends with the chef. He catches everything from the ocean himself, like real fresh food. It's amazing. And we'd love to take you guys." And they say, okay, sounds great.
Starting point is 00:45:07 So they get ready for dinner. And Agnes is also dressed up for dinner when they walk out and see Ant is just in his pajamas on the couch or something. They're like, oh, is Ant not coming? And just at that moment, there's a knock on the door and a babysitter arrives. This is Muhid, who is gonna be watching the kids. Kira says, oh no, no kids tonight.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Did I not say that? I thought I said that the kids just adults. And they're like, um, and they're like, but don't worry, Muhid is great with kids. He actually had to flee Syria. He's a refugee, but he was a teacher there and he was so good with kids.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But now he's like, can't get a job here because his English isn't great. And so, you know, he's wonderful with kids and we're just paying him under the table and it really helps him get by. So they tell this story that makes it look like they would be complete assholes to be like, we're not comfortable with him watching our kids or with leaving our kids. So they leave the kids and they go to dinner.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Wow. Wow. Just, I, it's just a reminder. It's like, don't trust anyone. Never trust anyone. Never trust anyone. I just, I feel like in my bones, I would never leave my kids with a full stranger
Starting point is 00:46:37 in that way. Do you know what I mean? Like that intense of a stranger? Yeah. I don't think I would ever do that ever, ever. No, no. Ever. It's crazy. It's pretty crazy. But it does a good job making it seem-
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, reasonable that they would do it. Believable, while still showing that they are uncomfortable with it. They're just not so uncomfortable with it that they're saying no. And they're like, I guess we're just not so uncomfortable with it that they're saying no. Yeah. And they're like, I guess we're just going down the road, so it'll be fine. So they go to this restaurant that just looks like a house on the side of the road. They're the only customers, only people dining there.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Louise this time says at the beginning of the meal, just to remind everybody, I'm vegetarian. And they say, oh, but you eat fish, right? And she says, yeah, yeah. So I guess I'm pescatarian. And then Patty says, oh, so you don't care about the fishing industry wreaking havoc on the oceans. And she's like, oh no, I mean, of course I care about it, but I make sure that I get fish that are caught a certain way. And he's like, oh, well, you know that that's like a really privileged way to be able to be and a lot of people don't have that type of access to that. And she's like, yeah, of course I realize that, but I don't necessarily think that's
Starting point is 00:48:04 a reason not to do that. And it's just a pretty uncomfortable conversation. And then Patty ends it with like a laugh and is like, oh, I just love having a spirited debate with someone. Like all this is all in good nature. Like I don't care what you eat, Louise. I'm happy for you. I just like to just like to have a friendly debate here and there.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Wait, by the way, can you hear the buzzing that's in my room? Can you hear that? No. Okay, there are so many wasps. So many fucking wasps. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of wasps. And there's one that's buzzing around right now.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I've killed like, I've probably killed like 10 wasps today or just picked up 10 wasp carcasses that are like on the rows. They're just like coming in here to die? They're just coming into my room to die and our whole house to die. And it's because they like killed the wasp. Oh, they spray a nest.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, they sprayed all the nest, but that was like months ago. And they're just still coming. There are so many of them and they're, anyway, so there's just like one that's buzzing around, literally around my face. And... Oh, I hate that.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I'm so sick of these fucking wasps, they're disgusting. Oh my God, okay, anyway, so I'm gonna focus on the wasps. They did the same at my house. They sprayed a nest right by my door, remember, and they were like flying in my room, through a hole by my AC unit, window unit in my room. And I couldn't find the hole and was like going insane. Can you not find where they're getting in?
Starting point is 00:49:32 I think they're getting in through our screens, just like we've patched up. There's a hole in one, but we've patched up. But I think they just get through somehow, somehow they're getting through the screens. Cause they're in every single window through the screens. Like hundreds, like piles of wasp mountains of wasp carcasses. Oh my God, they're so gross. They're so gross. There's so many of them.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I hate that. Anyway, so there's one, if you hear buzzing in the distance, that's yet another one. Oh, God. Okay, well, at the table now, Patty has got his arm around Kira and kissing her and saying, Oh, God, this one, she saved my life. She saved my life. And they're really touchy and handsy. And and they're really touchy and handsy. And Louise asks, oh, like, how long have you guys been together? And Kira says, 17 years. And they're all like, wow, 17 years, wow. Because Kira looks pretty young.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Like she's definitely younger than Patty. And so we're all kind of trying to do the math in our heads. But- How old are you right now? How old was that? How old were you 17 years ago? Yeah. And they say we still have sex every night. Okay, great. Great. And Louise is like, oh my God, wow. Ben is lucky if we have sex once a month. And Kira and Patty are like, oh my God, you've got to spice things up.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Sometimes we do role playing. Maybe that would help you guys if you tried out role playing. You can be a waitress and her customer, and Kira gets up and starts flirting with Patty as if he's a customer and is like, oh, can I get you anything else, sir? And he drops his fork on the floor or something and she's like, oh, you seem to have dropped your fork. Like, let me get that for you.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And she kneels down under the table and the tablecloth goes over her head implying that she's going down on him. And at first they're laughing as if it's a funny joke, like, oh my gosh, this is, ah, she's doing such a great job. And then Patty's face is like, she's actually giving me a blowjob. I guess she's actually giving him a blowjob
Starting point is 00:52:03 and he's making making faces like. Ew. Oh. Ew. And. Leave, leave. You've left your child at this person's house. Leave.
Starting point is 00:52:17 We cut back to the house. Agnes and Ant are playing hide and seek with Mujh, Muhid, or I think Mujid, I think they call him Muj. And his aunt has taken Agnes into Patty and Kira's room and opens a drawer and shows her it's filled with nice watches, like 20 or so watches. And he grabs one of them and shows her the inscription on the back of it and he's pointing to it and it's in Danish so she can't read it but he's pointing to that and then pointing to himself.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Oh, this is so sad. This is so sad. And she's not understanding but she knows something is up but he's very, aunt is making it clear like the babysitter cannot find what they're doing so once he like comes back up, but he's very, aunt is making it clear like the babysitter cannot find what they're doing. So once he like comes back up, he like quickly closes the door and like pulls her and they hide. And so she knows that something is up that he is trying to hide from the adults. And so then they come back to the house after dinner. Oh, sorry, at the end of the blowjob that seemed real. She does come up and go like, sorry, at the end of the blow job, that seemed real.
Starting point is 00:53:26 She does come up and go like, ha ha, we're just kidding, we're just kidding. But we don't know, we didn't see under there. I feel like they probably weren't kidding, but then they still were like, ha ha, what a funny joke. They're like, oh my God, you guys had us there for a second. So we come back to the house.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Now Ben and Louise are in their room. Ben is reading a book that Patty has given to him. Louise pokes fun at him and says, Oh, you seem to be really taken with Patty. Do you want to switch rooms for the night? Do you want to stay with him? And Ben snaps and is like, What the fuck are you saying? What's wrong with you after everything we've been through? Why are you saying this? And she's like, what are you talking about? I'm making fun. He's like, you're always doing that. You told them like, I'm lucky if I have sex with you once a month. You're always kind of putting me down and making me feel like an idiot. And especially this, like when you're,
Starting point is 00:54:27 he says something like, how can you treat me like that when you were sexting with one of the dads at Agnes's school like a fucking teenager. So there's this reveal that there was some slight infidelity that never materialized into actual cheating, but they were like kind of having an emotional affair. He mentions that he found a dick pic on his wife's phone
Starting point is 00:54:51 from one of the parents at their daughter's school. Oh boy. And they get in this argument where all of this comes out. This happened six months ago. They've been in therapy, couples therapy since then. They're trying to work through it, but clear that we have some marital problems going on here. Was that the case in the first one?
Starting point is 00:55:11 No, this is new. I kind of like it. I feel like it adds some more meaning behind why they're staying. Yeah. And behind why Ben is feeling kind of extra emasculated and like he needs to have this like guy friend that just takes charge or whatever. I don't know, like another layer to why he might be more, yeah, just envious of this guy's masculinity. And, but in this fight, we also hear Louise say, like, I moved to London for you, I quit my job for you, I sold
Starting point is 00:55:49 my house for you, I followed you here. And when you quit your job, or when you lost your job, I didn't say anything, like, I've done nothing but be supportive of you. I'm still nothing but supportive of you. I'm trying, I take responsibility for what I did. And I'm like, what do I have to do here? I'm trying to be with you. I want to be with you and I feel like you know that and you're punishing me because, I don't know. So they just have this fight that adds some context to their relationship. And at the end of this fight fight we see a shadow move in the mirror and we
Starting point is 00:56:25 see that Patty has been outside listening to this the whole time. Patty, love him. Love Patty. Patty is so, such a good guy. Such a good guy. Such a good guy. Now Louise wakes up in the middle of the night and goes to check on Agnes. Agnes is not in her bed. She looks stressed and tiptoes through the house and looks in Kira and Patty's room and Agnes is in bed with them. Nope.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Nope. Louise quietly walks over, grabs Agnes, pulls her out of bed, takes her back to their room, wakes Ben up, says pack everything up, we're leaving. Yeah. Good. Good. And they do. Great. But. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:17 But. But as they are on the road, they're driving away. When Agnes realizes she does not have Hoppy, she... Leave it, leave it. They say, we'll get another, we'll have them mail him to us when we get home, or we'll get another one. She does again have, starts having panic attack. She's scratching her arms.
Starting point is 00:57:47 She can't breathe. I can't breathe. Can't breathe. And they decide to turn around and go get Hoppy. And of course, when they go inside, Patty and Kira have gotten up, noticed that they've been gone. And so there is a confrontation. Patty's upset. These three left in the middle of the night without saying goodbye. I think you guys owe us an explanation.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I feel like we've been nothing but nice to you. I like, can you not be honest and tell us what we did wrong? And Ben is trying to tiptoe around it as like, you know, just a couple things have happened that made us feel like we should probably be back at our home. And Louise cuts in and says, Agnes was in your bed. Agnes was sleeping in your bed. It's completely inappropriate and we're leaving. Like that's inexcusable. Patty turns to Kira and is like, what? Like, what did you do Kira? And Kira takes responsibility says, Oh my God, this is all my fault. Patty was asleep for the whole
Starting point is 00:58:54 thing. Agnes was crying and she seemed like she she wanted you but you were asleep and she was struggling. She was like seemed like she couldn't breathe. And so I brought her into the bed and calmed her down. And I guess it's just this instinct as a mother that I have that and also we had a daughter that we lost. And I just got emotional about it. And so then the conversation turns and she gets emotional and she says, yeah, we had a daughter that died as a baby. And so of course there's now another softening from Ben and Louise where they're like, okay, I guess. No.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I guess that makes it less bad. Maybe it's not as big of a deal as we thought. No, it is, it is. So they decide to stay. I can't. That day, Agnes, Aunt, and Luis and Kira are in the yard, the kids are playing together while the moms are sitting at the table talking and the dads go on a drive to go hunting together. Aunt and Agnes are at a little table together and Aunt writes Agnes a note. Okay, great. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And shows her. Okay. But it's in Danish and she's like, I don't know what this says. You can tell he's really frustrated. And Kieran notices them kind of whispered, seeming like Aunt is trying to communicate something and she looks like suspicious and
Starting point is 01:00:45 gets up in his me like, what are you kids doing over there? And Aunt grabs the paper and eats it, swallows it. So Agnes knows that something bad is happening. Something is up. We see Patty and Ben there. They are hunting a fox and it's Ben that's about to shoot, but he can't do it. The fox runs away. Ben kind of pats him on the back and he's like, that's okay, man. It's actually not about the kill for me. It's the hunt that I like. I don't care about the kill. It's all in the hunt for me. Great. It has nothing to do with what's happening to you, IRL. And then he says, and I just want to say, I really admire you for coming out here with
Starting point is 01:01:32 everything that you're going through. I heard you and Louise the other night. I know there was some infidelity and I just admire you trying to work on your relationship and make it work like it takes a big man to be able to do that. But I also think that you need to let out some of that anger or it'll eat you up inside. And so he's like, come with me, come with me
Starting point is 01:01:57 and takes him, sit in the middle of nowhere and they just start screaming. Well, first, Patty starts screaming and screaming and screaming and he's like, come on, Ben, you gotta let it out, you gotta let out the beast, let out the beast. And so they just scream. It's this big cathartic moment for Ben.
Starting point is 01:02:15 They're laughing. They're like, ah, God, I needed that. So, Agnes pulls her mom aside at some point and is like, there's something wrong with Aunt, something is going on. He showed me a note and Louise says, can you show me the note? And she says, no, he swallowed it. When Kira started coming over, Louise is like, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:39 But then the guys come home and so they're kind of interrupted. And they're about to all have dinner together again. Louise is cutting up some vegetables or something and cuts herself. And this is in the original where she's, they're like, oh, thankfully, you know, we have a doctor here because Patty told them that he's a doctor and he's like, oh, I'm not a doctor. Oh my God. And he's like, oh, I'm not a doctor. Oh my God. And you're like, what?
Starting point is 01:03:06 And he's like, oh yeah, I think I was just probably trying to impress you guys. Sometimes I get insecure and they're like, well, what do you do? And he's like, well, I don't do anything. Oh my fucking God. And he says, oh, but we get by, you know, we sell some weed, we, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:20 do a little bit of that here and there. And Louise and Ben's faces are just horrified. And then Kira and Patty start laughing. They're like, oh my God, look at their faces. Of course I'm a doctor, come on, what are you thinking? And then we know that he's not, but they all laugh. We know he's not, we know he's not. And he like puts a bandaid on her finger.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And then as- Would a non-doctor be able to put a bandaid on? Yeah. Could someone without a medical degree do this? Oh my God. Why didn't they at least make it a comedy? Why did they have to do such a faithful adaptation? It is pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I mean, it's dark. You have to have a dark sense of humor, but some of these things are. The darkest one might say. I do kind of wish I saw it in the theater because I bet, I guess depending on the audience, but I'm sure there were screenings where people were laughing a lot.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Oh God. It's hard to imagine. It's absurd. It's hard to imagine. So now they're all sitting down to dinner and Kira is starting to be a little bossy with Agnes, like as if she's her mother and she's like, Agnes, set the table. Agnes, don't eat with your mouth open.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And Agnes, eat your vegetables and just like keeps telling her what to do. And Luis eventually cuts in and says, can you stop telling her what to do? Like I'm her mother, you're not her mother. And Patty with his mouthful is like, so, but you can agree it's gross when people eat with their mouthful or like talk with their mouthful, right? And she's like, yeah, but I'm, I'm her mom and I would just appreciate if you leave that to me. And Patty tells her, well, Kira grew up in the care system where all the kids kind of parented each other. And I don't think she meant anything by it. It was just the way she was raised is that everybody parents everybody. And so she's just trying to do
Starting point is 01:05:17 a nice thing. But Kira, it's clear that you made Louise feel uncomfortable. So I think you should apologize. So Kira says she's sorry to Louise and to Agnes, and then Patty turns to Louise and is like, Louise, do you have anything you want to say? Oh my fucking God. Louise says, I guess maybe I overreacted. Nope. No. No. And Patty's like, see?
Starting point is 01:05:41 No. No problem. That's all we had to say and everything's fine. Okay. And now the kids have a dance that they wanna show us. Agnes and Aunt have been practicing a dance. They put on Cotton Eye Joe and do a little swing dancing thing. And not 10 seconds into it,
Starting point is 01:06:04 Patty stops the music, says, Aunt, what are you doing? Timing's all off, you're doing this so badly, start from the beginning, do what Agnes is doing. Agnes is doing great, you're doing like such a bad job and you need to be better, so we're starting over. Oh my God. Starts it over, everyone's really uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Aunt, again, I guess, I mean, I don't even see what he's doing wrong, Ant again, I guess. I mean, I don't even see what he's doing wrong, but again, at the same part... He's clearly not doing anything wrong. No, he's not doing anything wrong. Patty is like, Ant stops it again. He's like, start over or do it right this time.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And then it escalates to Patty throwing his beer, like beer bottles smashing, and Louise jumps up. It escalates to Patty throwing his beer, beer bottles smashing, and Louise jumps up. Agnes runs and is crying, and Louise yells at him. He's a kid. Well, they both do. Ben does too, and Ben is like, he's a kid, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:06:58 You can't talk to him like that. And Patty is not backing down, and he's like, he's my son, I can talk to him however I want. He's like a terrible dancer. He needs to learn to be better. And then I think Patty gets up and like goes to the house and Ben and Louise kind of pull each other aside and they're like, Oh, okay, I think we should leave. Let's get ready to leave. Kira can see that they're getting ready to leave. Oh, Ben says, well, I'm a little bit drunk. So I just need to make some coffee because none of us can drive right now. So let me have some coffee and then we'll get on the road. Kira sees that they're planning this and she pulls Louise aside and says, can you at
Starting point is 01:07:45 least wait to say bye to Patty? If you don't, it'll be worse for me and aunt kind of implying that he is abusive and we'll take out that anger on them. Great. Great. So all this is turning out so well. What a good vacation this is. So good. And so Louise looks like she's feeling sorry for Kieran. She says, okay, yeah, that's fine. Then Ant looks like he's got a plan for something. He's got a football and he signals to Agnes to play catch with him.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And then he throws the football by this barn, tries to make it look accidental, but it's clear that he wants to, like, move them towards this barn where they're out of the eyeline of Kira. Okay. And so they are in front of this barn now and he opens it and takes her inside and opens this little trap door into like a basement area of the barn.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And this basement is filled with a lot of personal belongings, luggage, more watches, wallets, seemingly from many, many people. They've been getting away with it for so long. Long time. So long. And he shows Agnes all these photos.
Starting point is 01:09:19 It's so sad. That are similar to the photo that, of the six of them, the postcard that they had sent inviting them to come and visit. This same photo exists of many other families with the children rotating through each photo. So there is a photo of aunt and his actual parents. So sad. aunt and his actual parents, presumably a Danish couple, and Kira and Patty with a different child that looks sad. And aunt's looking smiley and happy in this photo.
Starting point is 01:09:56 And then, you know, we can go back to each photo and you see the sad child with Patty and Kira in a previous photo looking happy with their own parents. So clearly they have been taking these children from other couples for seemingly years? Seventeen years. Ten years. Ever since she was 15 years old. God.
Starting point is 01:10:26 And Aunt points, like grabs Agnes' cell phone and makes her take photos of everything. Okay. Smart. And then they close everything up. He moves, like covers the trap door again. There was all this hay on the top of the trap door covering it. And so he covering it. He hides it so I can't tell they went in there. Then they go back to where Kira and Louise are and Agnes, Ben is there
Starting point is 01:10:55 also. Agnes is trying to get her parents away from Kira so that she can talk to them, but they're kind of saying, not now Agnes, we'll leave soon. And Agnes goes behind a bush somewhere and finds like a little needle that I don't know, I can't remember where this came from, but a little something to cut herself with and she cuts herself between her thighs to make it seem like she's maybe having a period. Oh, okay. Smart, smart, okay. Meanwhile, we see Patty waking up
Starting point is 01:11:33 from a little afternoon drunk nap. Oh, fucking A. He comes back downstairs to where everybody else is, apologizes, says, oh my God, I'm mortified, I'm so sorry, you guys, I had way too much to drink. They all say, you know, I think we all had too much to drink, but you know, I think we're going to be going. And he's like, okay. And then Agnes comes over with blood in her like crotch area on her dress, looking embarrassed like playing and playing a little part like to get her mom away from them and guaranteed that she can have a private conversation
Starting point is 01:12:11 with Louise. Louise gets up takes her to the bathroom says, Oh, I we've got to take care of this. We'll be right back. Everyone's understanding. They go to the bathroom, Agnes shows her the photos. Okay, great. Okay, good. Says, we've got to go and we've got to take aunt Louise's, like, okay, I need you to be really brave. We need to act like nothing's wrong. We are going to say you got your period and we need to go home. And so then Louise goes out to call Ben into the bathroom. She says, oh, she's asking for you. Like when she gets really freaked out, Ben's the only one that can calm her down. So like, okay, so now Ben comes into the bathroom. So now it's the three of them alone in the bathroom. And Louise is
Starting point is 01:13:02 looking for weapons in the bathroom. She finds a box cutter in the bathroom, pockets that. Okay, good, good. Agnes is really freaking out and crying and she's like, that's okay, you can freak out and cry. Like, that's good. We're just gonna tell them that you're really freaked out from your period and so we can leave. And like, we'll stay calm.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Everyone needs to, like me and dad will stay calm and it'll be totally fine. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And so they walk out and they're like, oh, yeah, sorry, Agnes is like really freaked out and thinks she wants to be in her own bed. I think it's like, I think it's best if we head home now, but thank you guys so much for having us. It's really lovely.
Starting point is 01:13:44 We had so much fun. We've had the freaking time of our lives. We've had the fucking best time. Patty is looking suspicious, but he's like, yeah, okay. You sure she doesn't want to just lie down here? And they're like, no, we got to go. And then he, he like peeks into the barn and sees that the hay has been moved. And then something turns in and he's like, yeah, Agnes, that must have been really scary for you. Okay. Okay, Patty. I've had enough of your games. So we know that he knows, we know he knows and he knows we know, but nobody's saying that they know anything.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So they pack up and everyone's smiling like, oh, it's been so fun and so sorry, Agnes, it's going to be fine. You're a woman now. Like an inappropriate comment here, there. They head out to the car and wouldn't you know it, a big old flat tire. Yeah, that'll do it. Patty says, oh, such bad luck. Oh, such a bummer. It's like, Ben, come with me to the shed. I have some tools. We can fix it. And so the two of them walk to this shed area
Starting point is 01:15:09 that Patty unlocks, it's like bolted locked. And it's so stressful and he's opening, he's like, yeah, I got supplies in here. We'll be able to get you on the road in no time, it's gonna be totally fine. No, no, no, no, I don't like the supplies that you have. I don't like them. And everyone's tense.
Starting point is 01:15:29 He goes into the shed with him. You're like saying, don't go in there, don't go in there, don't go in there. And Patty's just kind of watching Ben. And like, oh, you hand me that jack over there. Ben's walking deeper into the shed to grab this jack. Okay. Patty's just watching, grabs a screwdriver.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Yep. And he's like, okay, let's go. Leave the shed. Okay. And they go back, change the tire. Oh my God, I'm dying. I'm really dying. I'm really dying over here.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I'm not okay. And then he's like, okay, all set. You're good to go. And then they're once again saying their goodbyes and they're like bye, hugging. And then he's like, oh wait, do you have Hoppy? Oh, okay. We can't use this again. All right, we got to say goodbye to Hoppy at this point.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Hoppy. This is Patty asking. And then Patty looks up and in the storm drain of the barn, Hoppy's right there and he's like, oh my God, how did he get up there? And Agnes is kind of like twitching around, like looking anxious. Like she really wants to leave it, but she's just like, and he's like, oh, well, he's right there. Like you can just bend. You just go up and grab him. Like you can't leave without Hoppy. And so he grabs this big ladder. No. Okay. And he's like, Ben, you should climb up there. You're taller than me. You'll be
Starting point is 01:16:55 able to get them. What? Ben climbs this ladder. Again, everything's very tense. Of course, Patty does a little shake of the ladder and he's like, haha, just kidding. It's just a hilarious joke. He grabs Hoppy, comes back down and then they're like, okay, have a safe drive. Let us know when you make it back to London." And Patty says, you know, you can shoot me a cheeky little text. And then like looks at Louise, implying that he knows about her texts with the other dad. And they're like, yep, we'll text you when we're back.
Starting point is 01:17:39 And then they're all smiling and Patty says, except you won't, will you? Okay. And they're like, what? And he says, even after all this time, you're still not being honest, are you? You're not going to text us. And Louise is thinking what to say and then says, you know, you're right. We won't text you and you won't be coming and visiting us in London because Ben and I won't be together. The thing that we haven't been honest about is that Ben and I have been having some marital trouble and this trip has made us realize that I'm not sure if we're going to be able to get through it. And so we might not stay together. And
Starting point is 01:18:27 so we won't be able to visit or whatever. Great. Okay. Kira and Patty are like, see, it doesn't feel so good to be honest. They hug and they're like, I think like, Ben really loves you. And I think as long as you guys are really honest with each other, you can get through anything and we're just really rooting for you guys. And they're like, Oh my God, my brain is shutting down faculties. Every part of my brain is slowly, I feel like I've lost the ability to smell. I've lost the ability to hear.
Starting point is 01:19:02 My senses- Smell no evil. My senses are disappearing one by one. My brain is getting smaller in order to protect itself. I was watching the rewatching the deepest breath documentary about free diving last night. Yes. And they talk about how your brain shuts off
Starting point is 01:19:20 when you're running out of oxygen and seems like. Yeah, well that's why I'm holding my breath in order to shut down so I don't have to feel as much. I rewatched a documentary last night too, by the way, which I never do. Oh, no, not a documentary, sorry. Do you remember that Hulu production with Derek Delgario and it was an off-Broadway production
Starting point is 01:19:43 called In and of Itself. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. And he's like the magician and Tim and I rewatched it last night and wow, I really cried. It is so moving. It's great. It's so moving. It's so beautiful and moving.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And anyway, if anyone wants to watch something that's a little bit more like uplifting, it makes you feel like a little bit more like proud to be a human instead of like ashamed and distraught about being a human. Like maybe visit that in and of itself. Yeah, a little palate cleanser. Okay, back to whatever this new ending is. So they're driving out, they're about to drive out,
Starting point is 01:20:17 they need them to open the gate for them, which I'm not sure how they got around that the first time they left, possible plot hole, but they open the gate for them. They say, okay, yeah, bye, see you later. They're driving away, they pass the gate. They're looking in the rear view mirror as Kira and Patty and Aunt are walking kind of after them,
Starting point is 01:20:40 waving goodbye. Agnes is saying, we need to take Aunt, we need to take Aunt. Louise is saying, if we don't get out, we won't, like, we'll obviously come back for him, but if we don't get out, we can't save him. And so they're like looking back at them as they're driving away.
Starting point is 01:20:58 And then they see Kira and Patty push Ant into the little lake that's on their property. And obviously we know that Ant can't swim. Agnes starts screaming, they pushed Ant into the water. So they stop the car. Ben runs out, jumps in the lake, saves Ant from drowning. Okay. This is good.
Starting point is 01:21:22 This is good. Saves Ant from drowning, but as he like drags him to the edge of the lake, he sees Patty and Kira holding guns to the heads of Agnes and Louise. Okay. So now they have money to them. They empty out their bank accounts. They're basically saying, we're going to take all your money. You don't know your neighbors. You don't have a job. Nobody's going to miss you. And no one's even going to notice that you're gone. Oh're gone. They're begging for their lives
Starting point is 01:22:07 saying, please don't hurt us or like, please don't hurt my daughter. You can hurt us, but please don't hurt Agnes. He says like, you don't care about Agnes. If you did, you would have let aunt drown in the lake and like be with his parents. Jesus Christ. So his parents are in the lake and then he like turns to aunt and says, don't worry, you'll be with them soon. And he's now, Patty is preparing some sort of sedative. He's grabbed Agnes and he's about to cut her tongue out and he says, we have to sedate
Starting point is 01:22:41 her. If you don't, they can make a real fucking mess. Aunt could tell you, except he can't. What? And he's about to inject Agnes with this when Louise pulls out the box cutter she still has and slashes Patty across the face. Great, good, okay, good.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Causing distraction, everyone is like turning like, what is happening? Then she knocks the gun out of Kira's hand and grabs it, turns it on Kira and Ben grabs Patty's gun. So now they have the two guns. Great, great. In the shuffle, Agnes grabs the syringe, pockets that sedative.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Okay. So now they have the upper hand on Kira and Patty and they're aiming guns at them. Patty is like screaming in pain covering his face. And then Kira starts begging Louise and says, "'Please, Louise, please, please, I'm a victim too. "'I was his first, I was Agnes's age. "'And like, you can't, please, please. I'm a victim too. I was his first. I was Agnes's age and like you can't, please don't leave me here with him. And Louise looks like she's
Starting point is 01:23:52 maybe about to show sympathy and Ben is like, nope, nope, nope, nope. Yeah, no, no. Leave her. No, even if that's the case, she's spent the past 70 years of serial killing, so let's. Yeah, yeah. No, no mercy now. Yeah, you can state your case in court. So they lock the shed behind them, so they've locked Patty and Kira in this shed. They get back in their car, they're driving off.
Starting point is 01:24:21 With aunt? Yes, they have aunt. They have both of the kids, all four of them are in the car driving. When driving up the driveway comes the... Babysitter? Chef from the restaurant. Oh.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Which I liked because... It's different. It's just a white guy and I like not having the one person of color be involved in a weird... Also complicated. Yeah. That makes sense. So restaurant chef guy, his name's Mike, and he is pulling up the driveway and he starts shooting at them.
Starting point is 01:24:50 So he's blocking their exit. So they reverse back and they go, we gotta go back in the house. There's a landline in the house. So they all four run into the house, start locking all the doors, barricading themselves in like moving furniture, blocking everything,
Starting point is 01:25:06 locking the windows. And Mike finds Patty and Kiera, unlocks the shed, gets them out. And he's like, what the fuck, man? Like, I don't wanna be doing this. And Patty says, did they see your face? He says, yes. And then he's like, then you're in it.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Like whether you like it or not, you're part of this now. So. What does that mean? Like, what was he doing? What was he doing with the gun? And why was he stopping them then? What was he? I think he says something like, I don't mind like,
Starting point is 01:25:34 I can't, I don't know what his normal part of the- Yeah, what's his role? Thing is, but he seems like he's usually not a hands-on type of guy. And he assists them in some ways. Maybe he does some of the financial fraud or something, but now he's gonna have to get his hands dirty because he's been seen.
Starting point is 01:25:56 So, inside the house, Louise calls 999, but as soon as they answer, Kira cuts the phone lines, phone lines are dead. Ben starts panicking. He's like, oh my God, they have guns, they have guns. Like, I don't know what to do. I'm like, they're gonna fucking kill us. And Louise has to like snap him out of it. She's like, Ben, your family needs you.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Your daughter needs you. Like you cannot freak out right now. And he kind of like gets it together a little bit and he's like, okay, okay. Then they find some bottles of alcohol. We see, I think that Patty and Kira like had brewed some of their own alcohol. That was something that they drank earlier
Starting point is 01:26:40 and they make like really, really strong alcohol. And so they get the idea of making some sort of Molotov cocktail. And they, the barn is next to the house. And they say maybe if we throw it at the barn, we can light the barn on fire. And that hopefully someone will see it and will come like if we cause a fire. Okay, how does one make a Molotov cocktail? It's these types of things in these situations where I would be like, fuck,
Starting point is 01:27:07 I don't actually know how to do anything to defend myself, literally not. Yeah, I mean, I would do- Do you just like light a rag on fire and attach it to a brick and throw it at something? No, no, it's the bottle. So you put the rag in the bottle. I think you wanna fully saturate the rag with alcohol
Starting point is 01:27:28 and then have it kinda half in, half out, and then you light it, and so it's kind of like the little wick on an explosive. That makes sense. And then once it hits that, alcohol explodes. And then you have to like throw it so it explodes. I don't know if it works in practice,
Starting point is 01:27:44 but that's how, I mean, I know that it can work in practice. That makes sense. I'm only going by what I've seen in movies. Okay. So they do that and open this window to throw at the barn and Ben does the most pathetic little toss with no force and it just rolls right off the roof of the bar.
Starting point is 01:28:06 What? Now, really? Now you're not gonna, okay. And of course signals to Kira and Patty and Mike where they are. And so now they're being shot at up there. The Molotov cocktail falls onto Patty's car and it does light the car on fire.
Starting point is 01:28:27 So that's something. Patty yells up at Ben, oh, you've blown up my car, you cheeky cunt, you're gonna pay for that. I'm making him Irish and I think he's Scottish, but I have been doing no good accents in this. I'm really sorry, but it's because I- No, that was great. I loved that.
Starting point is 01:28:44 That was really good. It's because I can't actually remember their specific accents. I know James McAvoy is Scottish and Aisling Francioce is Irish, but I can't hear. I don't know if they're doing British accents in this. I can't remember. Anywho, so Louise and Ben put Aunt and Agnes in a closet and they're like, stay here, stay quiet. Don't come out until we come and get you. And they go searching for weapons. Meanwhile, Kira, Patty, and Mike are just searching for ways in, like trying to break
Starting point is 01:29:17 windows to climb into the house. There's like an attic in the house. Someone's coming in through the attic. Kira's coming in through the attic. Keir is coming in through the basement. And I think Mike is just like breaking windows, trying to find a window that he can get into. And so Louise and Ben are looking for weapons. Louise finds a bottle of drain cleaner.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Ben finds a hammer. And then all three of the British people make it in. And so Louise and Ben are separated because they had broken up to like look for weapons. So everyone's kind of separate, all hunting each other. Okay. Louise finds the carving tools that they, he used to feed her the goose with
Starting point is 01:30:04 and grabs that very long fork, stabby fork thing, puts it in her pocket. Ben is closest to Mike. He hears Mike coming and he hides in another closet clutching his hammer. And Louise is in a room with two entrances, three entrances, and she's put this desk in front of one of them, she's locked one of them, and she crouches down. And I just liked this detail. She, in crouching down, stabs herself because she has the fork in her pocket.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Yeah. And she's like, ugh, she tries not to make a noise. And I just appreciated that little detail. Patty is trying to break through the door with the desk in front of it. And he's really, really strong. I haven't mentioned that. But James McAvoy is like ripped in this movie. It's like split level. Okay, ripped. Okay. He's going to be able to break his way in. And so he is reaching through and he's got the gun in his hand. Like he's just like gonna reach in and start shooting.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Louise jumps up, forks him in the arm. Okay. He pulls his arm back and Louise takes that moment to run through the third door as we hear Kira coming to the second door. So Patty came in one door, Kira's coming in this other door, Louise ran out the third door as we hear Kira coming to the second door. So Patty came in one door, Kira's coming in this other door, Louise ran out the third door.
Starting point is 01:31:28 So now Patty and Kira are, he basically, he does break into the room after Louise is gone, Kira comes to him and they had a moment in the shed where Kira like hit Patty and she did look like she hates him for a second and he kind of has a moment of being like, I need you in this with I need you to snap out of this where he like asserts his dominance and like shakes her out of it. And he's like, I need you with me. I need you with me. And she's like crying and then kind of deflates
Starting point is 01:32:00 into him and like goes back to being on his side again. So they're back on the same team. Okay. But he's like pushing Kira in front of him. So he they're going after Louise and he's pushing Kira in front. And now they're in the room with the closets that we know the kids are in. There's two of the closets and they go up to one and open it and we're so nervous, like, oh my God, the kids are in there,
Starting point is 01:32:32 but this closet's empty. And from the second closet outbursts Louise and the two kids and Louise sprays the drain cleaner in Patty's eyes. And so Patty falls to his knees screaming, Kira drops the gun and goes to his aid, giving the other three time to escape. And then at the same moment,
Starting point is 01:33:02 Ben jumps out of the closet he's hiding in in another part of the house and attacks Mike from behind with the hammer. But again, does like a terrible job immediately. Yeah, he does not swing it hard or he like misses and falls. And Mike immediately gets the upper hand and is pinning him down. And there's a broken mirror protruding from somewhere that Mike is holding Ben's head over and he's like trying to push down his eye onto this mirror. When Louise and the kids, well, just Louise runs in,
Starting point is 01:33:37 the kids are thankfully a little bit behind her, but they're coming. But they don't see that she sees this happening. She grabs the dropped hammer from the floor and takes the back end of it like an ax, jams it into Mike's head, kills Mike. Oh shit, okay, Louise, God bless you. God bless you, woman.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Okay, great. So now Mike is dead. Patty is momentarily blinded, like writhing in pain, trying to rinse his eyes out. And Patty says, Kira, you have to go. You have to stop them. You have to stop them. So they're now the family has rejoined or the four of them are together and Kira is trying to find them.
Starting point is 01:34:20 They're up in the attic and they're going out this attic window, which is right where the ladder was left when they were trying to get Hoppy from the storm drain earlier. So they're high up, but there's a ladder, but it's treacherous. So they're like moving slowly and Ben is holding the ladder as Agnes is going to climb down first when Kira appears behind them and she has a gun and she's about to shoot, but she hesitates. She has another moment of like, she's looking at Agnes specifically where she just has a moment of hesitation that allows Louise to, there's like a loose brick on the roof that Louise grabs and smacks Kira over the head with, knocking her out of the attic window. She slides down the roof and falls the full, like from the second story, hits her head.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Kira's dead. Great. Okay. Okay. That's great. But in falling, she has also knocked off the ladder. She like hit the ladder. So now they're up there and we see Patty kind of getting his eyes clear.
Starting point is 01:35:35 No, kill him. And now Patty's back on their tail and he's yelling like, Kira, Kira, where are you? And so we're like, fuck, we gotta get off this roof, but there's no ladder. And Ben has a moment of realizing what he must do. And he jumps off the roof and he like breaks his feet, it seems, he like lands foot first and it's like,
Starting point is 01:35:58 holy shit. And then he kind of limps over to get the ladder, to put it up for for to save his family. OK. And I don't know that. Would you jump feet first? I'm like, I don't know. It seemed like a bad way to go. I don't know. But I guess other ways would also be bad. You don't want to break your arms.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Yeah. How are you going to move the ladder if you break your arm? Yeah. I mean, ideally, you'd look for some sort of bush to jump into. But I guess he just didn't have the time. And also, even if you jump in a bush, like, that could fuck you up with some... That's true. Like, the bush could really fuck you up. Yeah, so maybe this was the right call. I feel like... Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:39 There's probably a professional way to jump off a building to save your body. But just like I don't know what a molotov cocktail is, I also don't know what that is. Yeah, we got to take a survival class. I know that those must exist. Yeah, you probably roll or something. You try to like roll.
Starting point is 01:36:59 But I can see how you would definitely not want to like... Go head first? Have your head be anywhere near. So like rolling sounds like your head could be part of that. So I don't know. Best way to jump off a roof. Let us know in the comments. So he puts the ladder up and is able to, they're all able to climb down one at a time. And just as they
Starting point is 01:37:30 all make it to the bottom, he tells Agnes to go run to the car, get in the car. And of course, Patty has come out another part of the house and has grabbed Agnes. Wait, isn't the car also not working anyway? Because of the... Oh, they've got... I do think that their car is also not working. And now I can't remember why, but they have the keys to Mike's car from when Louise is like, grab his keys, grab his car keys. So we have a car, but now Patty has a gun to Agnes' head. He sees Kira's dead body on the ground and is devastated, but like so angry.
Starting point is 01:38:11 And he's like saying, uh, Louisa and Benner, like again, begging him like, please don't hurt Agnes. Please don't hurt Agnes. You can kill us. Like don't kill Agnes. And he's like, you think I'd kill Agnes? Like Agnes is all I have now. Like you took Kira from me Like, Agnes is all I have now. Like, you took Kira from me. You. Like, Agnes is all I have now. And we know what that's implying and it's disgusting. And Agnes pulls out that sedative that she pocketed earlier and injects it into Patty. He stumbles backwards, shoots the gun in the air, but is very quickly starting to lose consciousness and he's kind of laughing and mad and like, oh, the fuck, come on and
Starting point is 01:38:56 collapses on the ground. He's very quickly losing consciousness and they're about to all leave. Louise and Ben are like, come on, come on, let's go. When Ant stops and they're like, Ant, come on, let's go. Ant grabs a brick, crouches over Patty, lifts the brick up and Patty is still kind of awake and Patty looks at him with a big smile on his face and says, that's my boy as Aunt smashes his face. Oh my fucking God. Screaming, just pulverizing his head. The rest of them are just watching in wide-eyed horror, but they're not stopping him.
Starting point is 01:39:44 They're like, Yeah. Right, he's got to do what he's got to do. Yeah, yeah. And then Aunt drops the brick and they're both, they're all just looking like so shell shocked as they get in the car, sun's coming up. They're like covered in blood and tears. And I think it just zooms into Ant's face as he's just kind of like dead behind the eyes. And that's the end of the movie. Oh my God. Woof. Woof. All right. Obviously such a more cathartic ending than the first one. That being said, you know, Ant is not gonna have the best life.
Starting point is 01:40:27 No. Ahead of him. No. At least Agnes still has her tongue. Yeah, yeah. Just trauma, a lot of trauma. There is so much trauma. Holy fucking shit.
Starting point is 01:40:44 But yeah, it feels like a very American version. It's like completely not missing the point of the original. It's just making a different point than the original, which I feel like the original is so specific to Danish culture. But I like that this one is just like, Americans always fight back. Right, exactly. Americans win.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Americans always win. Which is pretty funny, but it feels very much like an American remake in that cathartic way where we're like, every American audience member who watched the original was probably like, I would have fought back. I would have fought back. I would have done this. Why didn't they do this? And so this movie is just for us to be all like, yeah, they did the right thing. But I thought it was pretty interesting.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I really wasn't expecting it to go like a completely different route. And while it does leave you with a completely different feeling than the original. Maybe not completely different, but pretty different feeling than the original. I think as its own thing, I really enjoyed it. And like I said, James McAvoy is incredible in it. And I just had a surprisingly good time, my expectations were not high, because I thought, you know, it's just gonna be the same movie again for no reason, which, you know, I don't know that we needed this movie
Starting point is 01:42:18 necessarily, but I felt like it did a good job justifying its own existence and kind of differentiating itself from the original and adjusting things so that it fit the kind of British and American cultural differences. Not that like, I feel like that sounds like I'm implying because British people are killers and Americans are heroes. That's not what I mean, obviously. But I don't know, I just thought there were a lot of clever things like having the boy
Starting point is 01:42:50 be Danish was good in that it's like, he does try to, there's the language barrier came into play there. And it just did a better job than I expected it to do. And so I enjoyed it. Yeah, I mean, obviously I prefer this one because of the ending and Ant, especially getting his retribution, you know, and also the addition of having the whole implied backstory
Starting point is 01:43:21 of Kira also changes kind of the story in a way. I will say that the thing that made the first movie so incredibly potent was not just the actual ending, which is like deeply upsetting, but also the moment in the car where the girl is freaking out and the mom is like, like, I'm next to you, I'm holding you, like, as long as I'm holding you, like nothing bad will happen to you. Remember, like nothing bad will happen to you as long as I'm holding you. And then immediately her child is ripped from her arms and her tongue
Starting point is 01:43:57 is cut out, like in front of her. And I feel like that moment specifically was like the most powerful message of the film, which speaks to something very real, which is that parents want to be able to like fully guarantee safety, but like it's actually impossible to fully guarantee safety. And that just hit that so perfectly in that film. And I think that's the thing that really sticks with you.
Starting point is 01:44:27 At least that's what stuck with me afterwards, was that feeling of the deep terror of not really being able to guarantee your child's safety, no matter what you do, even if you throw your body in front of them, even if you're holding them to you, there's still nothing you can do. And that's what made that first movie resonate so deeply There's still nothing you can do. And that's what made that first movie like resonate so deeply and feel so deeply just horrible and fucked up.
Starting point is 01:44:50 And so this movie obviously removes that. And so it's kind of like, what's the point of the movie? You know what I mean? I think that's a valid criticism of it also, because both movies have the line, I didn't say it in this one, but there is a moment where Ben says, why are you doing this? And Patty says, because you led us,
Starting point is 01:45:12 which is that line was also in the original. And the original is like, yeah, your punishment for letting it get to this point is horrific and you'll pay for it with your lives because you did not stand up for yourselves. And so the lesson is like, your politeness got you killed. Whereas this one has all the politeness and like not standing up for ourselves. And then it gets to a point where they're just like, okay, now we'll fight back and we. Right. And so yeah, I think that core message of the original is lost and it does feel like, yeah, definitely not as
Starting point is 01:46:08 devastating as the first one or as the original. But I think, yeah, it's just its own kind of experience that I still managed to enjoy. So we did it. Okay, I feel fine. You know what? I'm totally fine. Yeah. Do you feel less mad at me for the original one now? Yeah, I feel less, yeah. Retroactively? Yeah, I do. I do.
Starting point is 01:46:34 I forgive you. I forgive you. Oh my God, yay. It's only taken how long? When did we do the first one? Speaking of all. I mean, two years ago, I guess, because it was 2022. It's only taken two years.
Starting point is 01:46:45 Oh, we're healing. But I finally feel ready to heal our relationship, repair, repair the damage that was done. Also, Tim has called me like three times. So I guess I have to go because we better wrap it up. We better wrap it up. All right, well, we love you all and- Love you so much. We'll be back next week with, I'm pretty sure, The Substance, so hell yeah. Yeah, that's next week.
Starting point is 01:47:16 I'm excited. I like wanna see it, but then someone has to not have seen it, so I guess that's me. But I'm curious. I'm deeply curious. Maybe you can see it after. Ooh, brother. Ooh, okay. I know I didn't do any accents,
Starting point is 01:47:31 and I will do... Ah, I'll try to do an accent now, even though I don't know whether I should do British, Irish, or Scottish, so it'll be probably somewhere between all of those. A little mix. A little of all of that. So, from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch, goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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