Too Scary; Didn't Watch - THE VOID

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 This is a headgum podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy. And you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to. And this week we've got some. Cosmic horror. Whoa. Because I think what we're all needing right now is a little bit of existential drag. Yes. I don't have enough of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Not enough. No, positively zapped of any amount of existential dread. I got you. I got you, Emily. Thank you. But I also love horror that's, you know, located outside of Earth's surface. You know what I mean? That's coming from space.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Well, I had to tell you this one is on Earth. Well, yeah. But I mean, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. So both. A little bit of both. A little bit of both. Little bit of both.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Well, but we're not going to get into it just yet. There are times. Samson, the show notes if you want to skip straight to it. But first, Emily and Henley, did anything scary happen to you guys this week? Joel and I took a little vacation, which was very nice. We went to Northern California, Sonoma area. Joel found a lovely hotel. That was what we based our trip on, was a hotel.
Starting point is 00:01:42 And we're like, we'll drive. We'll take a road trip. Perfect. So we were really just hanging out, drinking wine, chilling hard. And I was like, we should do a spa situation. And I was like, we're in, like, Sonoma. There has to be nice, fancy, you know, cool little spas. And I found this lovely spa called Osmosis that did, does, offered to us and we accepted a cedar bath.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Ooh. Which was like. Like being in a sauna? No, it's like being in a mud bath, but it's not mud. It's wood? It's more like mulch. It's like cedar flakes. It's a mix of cedar.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Like they're marinating you. Yeah, you bet you it's it's fermented. It's, okay, so it's like cedar and rice brand. Like you're a salmon. Yes, you're, yes. It's, okay, so it was like that, so it was the texture of, um, I was expecting to be the texture of, um, I was expecting to be the texture of coffee grounds. It wasn't. It was more like the texture of the pencil shavings from an electric pencil sharpener. I was going to say just like full of splinters. But not,
Starting point is 00:02:51 but not. Like soft. And also kind of damp. And so it's this big, so it's this gorgeous spa. You start with having like tea, like a little tea ceremony and you're looking out of the gardens. And then they bring you into the bathroom and it smells fermented. It smells like wet mulch. but also kind of nice, but kind of gross. And you get into this, it's like a giant sandbox fits two. And they've got a little like, it's just filled with this mulch. And it's like has like a divot carved out for you to just like get it. So you leave that your tenant brings you in.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I'm like, I'll let you guys get into the bath. And I have a question. I see that you already have a question. Yeah. Does everyone get, I'm assuming everyone gets fresh mulch. Like this is not recycled mulch. So here's the thing. that I did learn and didn't tell Joel. No.
Starting point is 00:03:46 See, that would be in my head a little bit. It does get, it does get renewed every so often, but not a, apparently there's something about the process that like it's self-cleaning, I guess. Look, look, I did it willingly. But so they, your tenant leaves and ours was a young lady named Annabel who was so soft-spoken and was so excited for us and was like, like an angel on this earth. She believes in the power of the mulch. And so she leaves your, you get, you take off your up, your butt ass naked. You crawl, you climb together into this big box of mulch. And you get in and you like cover yourselves enough you hope so that then Annabel can come in and cover you all the way. And she covers you just your neck is out. And you're like sitting like you're like in like Chey's lounge style position like head sort of up and relaxed.
Starting point is 00:04:41 She comes in, she makes sure you have a nice little headrest, and then she buries you. Like, like, how if you, like, the dream of being buried at the beach, like, when you would try to bury yourself in sand, but, like, you can never quite fully get there. Like, you fully get there. And it's heavy. So it also feels like you're like under like a weighted blanket. But you're in a mulch pit. And it's like, and it's like, and it's hot. Wow. Because of your body heat. And also it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like fermenting. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, so it gets hot, like how compost. gets hot. It's like because of the like chemical processes happening. And what are the benefits, Emily? Yeah, yeah. Let's get to that part. All sorts of benefits. It's like circulation.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It exfoliates. It's, um, it like extracts. It's kind of like a mask. You know, it like pulls. Okay, okay. The toxins. It's supposed to be very good for like sore muscles and your back and like all these things. But also I was just like seems weird. Like I want to do it. Um, and it really is. And it really is, it was really, I almost turned to Joe at one point was like, man, I'm really glad we're not claustrophic, not knowing. And we're not, he's not, but he was like freaking out. Because it's just a really overwhelming experience. Like you could get yourself out if you needed to. You're not, it's not like so heavy you can't, but you are buried and you feel the weight. But we also were really laughing because your attendant comes in like every few minutes, thankfully, because it's a pretty overwhelming
Starting point is 00:06:03 experience. And she'll like give you water and like give you a little cool towel and just like check in and make sure you're doing okay. She gave us an option at one point to be like, you can stop now if you want or do you want to keep going. But because you're buried only up to your neck, this sweet young girl comes in and like brings water up to your mouth with like a little straw. And the first time we like could not get a grip on the straw. Dole at one point like both of us did. It's not just a stool. But like, it's spilled water in his mouth. She's like, let me get that for you. Because you feel so insane. Like infantilized. Yes. It's so strange. And then you get out and you, you dust yourself off. You get like exfoliated gloves. You just brush all this.
Starting point is 00:06:41 fucking, I mean, you're butt-ass naked. This mulch gets fucking everywhere. But let me tell you, I felt incredible after. My skin was so soft. I was so like caught. Because it's, it's like being in like a nice warm bath, but it's, but it's dry mulch. Dant of the earth. And you're in the earth. And like, I don't know. It was, it just was really strange. But I would recommend it if you find yourself having the opportunity to do like a fermenting. cedar bath. Like, I would do it again. I'm interested. Is that what you Google fermented cedar bath?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah, I don't know. I saw, what does it even call? I just was like Googling spas and I saw they had that. It was like a package. You like go, you do the tea, you do the bath and then you get a massage afterwards. And like we,
Starting point is 00:07:28 and then they have like gardens. You walk around in a little robe in these garden. It was like really lovely. But just strange. How long are you in the mulch for? 20 minutes. It's not.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And she comes in every few minutes to check on you. And at 15 minutes, she was like, it's been 15 minutes. How are you guys feeling? Do you want to stop or do you want to, you know, do the last few minutes of the treatment? Enzyme bath is what it's called. It's a mixture of soft and fragrant ground cedar and rice bran with living enzymes that stimulate metabolic activity inside and out. So. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Did you feel like you needed to poop afterwards? No, but I was worried because they did, they start the experience with, um, a diet, they call it a diuretic tea. And I was like, so you're giving us a diuretic tea and then you're putting us in a big, and and I didn't realize this until, again, everything was fine. We were totally fine. But we did also, it started at 1.30. So we had, we got lunch beforehand. And we were looking at best lunch in the area. And it turns out the best lunch. And the area was at this taco truck. And so we got breakfast burritos. And I was like, oh my God, what did we just do? We're going to,
Starting point is 00:08:36 we had breakfast brewers are going to give us a diuretic tea. And then we're going to get in this fucking mulch bath. We were both completely fine. Um, um, Do you think any accidents have ever happened in the mulch baths? I don't want to think about it because the mulch bath is reused. The cedar enzyme, well, presumably if something happened in there, they would. The cedar enzyme bath works together with your body's own processes, creating a unique synergy. Because the heat is generated biologically through fermentation, your body is able to absorb rather than defend against this warmth, allowing it to permeate your center, charge your core organs, and stimulate healing from within.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Wow, I want to do this. I'm telling it was like, you know, it's pretty weird, but... I want to be one with the earth so bad, you guys. I just said that just mean another way of saying, I want to be dead. I want to be buried in the earth for eternity. I just want to go back to the earth. Until I'm one with it. So that was scary and unique and enlightening.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Okay, great. I love, I love, that's news to me. I didn't know this that existed. Look up an enzyme bath. Yeah, that's fine. to. If you can find it. Okay. Well, she takes a big gulp of water
Starting point is 00:09:47 before going into this. My scary thing is that I'm just going to read to you guys from something. Oh, no. Okay. I know going to be so fun. But I listened to an interview with Ezra Klein and Anon
Starting point is 00:10:03 Giridardis talking about the Epstein files. And this is something that I have been so fixated on, as I know, so many people have. And this interview, while not being like, perfect, I think that they did do a great job of talking about how power works in this country. And I just felt inspired by some of the things that a non-geared artist was saying. He's the guy who, like, 10 years ago, got up at Davos and said to all these billionaires, like, you guys are pieces of shit.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Nice. I love that. Anytime anyone wants to do that, I really support it. Hey, you guys are pieces of shit. They, like, invited him to talk. I'm pretty sure it was at Davos. It might have been an Aspen Institute or one of those places. But he was invited to speak and he used his platform to be like, he went.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Oh, buddy. He was like, this is just like a big circle jerk of a bunch of billionaires trying to philanthropy. is you guys trying to like make yourselves feel better without ever changing the power structures that are the true problems. And he was not invited back. But he's written a lot about the elite and how power works. So I'm just going to just tell you some of the things that he said in this interview, which I thought were very useful. So this is him. This is basically just word for word.
Starting point is 00:11:28 He says, I think if I had to think about what I have most learned from the second Trump term. Most learned about this country and the character of this country and the way this country functions right now. Perhaps the biggest surprise for me is about the distribution or the lack of bravery. The country is full of people today and I'm speaking specifically of leaders and elites with opportunities to form some sort of resistance to the loss of democracy in this country. Our elite, including some of the people we've talked about today, is full of people whose grandfather's stormed Normandy and who are lionized in those families. And yet those people, do not have the bravery as the grandchildren to put out a statement from their law firm. I think it's a
Starting point is 00:12:09 really important part of American self-conception, bravery, courage. And I think we're finding out that it's in really short supply, that people who actually have the things that you would think would make you courageous. You know, I think that if I had Harvard's endowment at my back, or if I owned a law firm, I would be more courageous than the person sitting here right now. But it turns out that's not what it does for people. It's actually the opposite. And then you look at these people in Minneapolis, people whose names no one even knows except for the two who were shot. And people who, after those people were shot, continue to go out again and again and again. And you look at their courage.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And it's incredible that all of these people in academia, all these people in law firms and corporations, we go out. We hear these people talk about Donald Trump at parties. They have the same contempt for him that you and I have, but they don't have any courage. I think you're right that Epstein exploited that. but on a smaller and more barbaric scale. In some ways, it was a dress rehearsal for now. Someone who's a con artist in the same vein, someone who's had business dealings and misdealings,
Starting point is 00:13:14 who's been able to hijack the American Republic because of how timid people with a voice actually ended up being. It's great that you and I are talking about this right now. It's great, frankly, that the whole country and the world are starting to talk about this. This is a story of a magnitude that comes around rarely, and that's progress in and of itself. And all these women who risked everything to tell this story, who ruined their own lives to tell this story, Virginia Joufrey, who we've been quoting, is not with us anymore having committed suicide. But talking about it or being angry about it will not on its own lead to a world that's different from this. This outrage could just be harvested for clickbait. And politicians who, exactly as you say, like Trump, could very much just harvest this anger against the network only to get into power and deepen the hold of these networks.
Starting point is 00:14:00 or this outrage could actually lead to transformative places, a place where we say we don't have to be run by people who operate in these networks. Our political parties do not need to be dominated by donors who are at the heart of these networks. There are so many amazing people in this country, including some who were exposed to the opportunity to be friends with Jeffrey Epstein and who said no. There are so many people outside of these networks outside of this way of thinking. And again, we turn to people who run our companies,
Starting point is 00:14:28 who run our political organizations, who happen to have the kind of immorality, the kind of mentality, the mercenary mentality, the view of other people who don't have power as kind of disposable things to get past on the way to getting your own. But we have a choice now of who we elevate in so many spheres of American life. And I hope this story doesn't just become the greatest clickbait of all time and actually becomes a wake-up call. I just wonder if courage is a value that is suffered in the network age because our ability to be courageous means that we have to break ties. and the more valuable those ties become, the more exponentially difficult it becomes to break them.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Blah, blah, blah. Okay, that's basically, that's like the main thing I wanted to say. Sorry. I thought that this was like such a really important point that needs to be said over and over again that like this is an opportunity for us to change how things work. Like this is an opportunity for things to really fucking change. I feel weirdly optimistic and I kind of have for the past two months.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like I feel like people are engaged. and angry and like involved in a way that I feel like really encouraged by. Yeah. And just like how obvious like I feel like sort of what you were saying, Hannah, there's the the wide chasm between the people in charge and like how everyone else feels and how anyone else would behave. It's just becoming more and more obvious to all of us. And I think that that is important to look at who's in charge and be like,
Starting point is 00:15:56 oh, actually like you're all goblins. You're literal goblins with no actual skills besides being able to disregard your own ethical. Your big, dumb, selfish, nasty goblins, like all of you. I know. I know. Like, you're hoarding your little bridge trolls. You're just, like, sitting on your fucking bridge. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And I think everyone's realizing that now. And it's just a matter of whether we're going to, like, do something about it, you know? I don't know what that is. But I do know there needs to be some big fucking changes. We need to... I'm so sorry to bring this up, but... Happy Year of the Fire Horse, baby. Oh, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Wait, you guys, tomorrow... It's true. It's true. Yeah, it's still the Year of the Snake as we... As we record. Well, actually, in some areas, it's the Year of the Fire Horse already. Mm-hmm. It's time to get up off our asses.
Starting point is 00:16:49 So we should be seeing some big changes pretty soon. It's things are going to be happening really quick here. I will say, like, the astrologers have kind of been right. You know what I mean? the astrologers were saying, I think the astrologers have 100% right. I don't think they've never been wrong. I don't know or kind of has any place here.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It's pretty remarkable. It's pretty remarkable. It's actually 100% truth. Yeah. Yeah. So I recommend listening to this interview and I don't know. Just like we're not letting it go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I'm not fucking letting it go. It's obviously not the same. And Martha Stewart isn't a person in extreme power. But I just keep thinking about and I'm so obsessed with, do you see the post that Martha Stewart did? Where she, her granddaughter texted her and was like, I actually think it's not at all acceptable to not say anything anymore. Like you actually have to say something. And she posted that text and was like, she's right and here's all the things I have to say. I was like, Martha, fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah. Yeah. Just like, let's listen to people. They'll think just being like, yeah, you know what? You're right. Yeah. Say something. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:57 say something. We got to hold these motherfuckers accountable. And silence only benefits them. Those motherfuckers, I want to fucking tear shit down. Yep. Trolls. Goblins. Goblin trolls. Goblin, evil goblin trolls. Yeah. So the scary thing is that I am really deep in a hole on all this stuff. This is just the tip of the iceberg. This in terms of what I'm thinking about. But I'm glad that the conversation is happening, I guess. Yeah. Well, I guess I'll talk about something semi-related then, which is that I don't know if you saw, but there's a new banger from the Gregory brothers.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Oh, I did see that. I did not. Talk about a fucking goblin. It's the Pam Bondi song about the Dow. And it is really in my head because the Dow, Dow, Dow right now. It's almost 15,000. The DA, the DAO right now. Be need to know.
Starting point is 00:19:00 How is the DAW? And it's just very funny to have Pam Bondi words stuck in your head all day long, but it really is like the Gregory brothers are want to do. This is next on my, after we are done with this podcast, that's next in my cue of what is happening in my life. You're just singing it right now made it stuck in my head again. It's so good. They really know how to make an earworm. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I know. For those of you who don't know, they also did the famous song, It's Corn. And that one was such a hit that they made a full-length version because this one's still only at the, you know, 22nd version. And I'm really hoping that this pushes through to get the full-length treatment because Wow. This is really good. Exciting.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah. But yeah, again, scary to have Pamp on. Stuck in my head. Yeah. It's also just so sick to me that there are all these women who are being trotted out to defend this. I know. It is.
Starting point is 00:20:04 It's awful. These women who are out here like stumping for the worst of the worst, like sold their souls straight to the devil. Yeah. It's really sad. It is sad. And the Dow thing is crazy, but it is also so funny to just see her just be like, but the Dow, the Dow, though.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But the Tao, but the Tao. Yeah, that's a person who is fighting for their life. Yeah. Just grasp me anything. Anything. Like, do you think she just has like acid reflux all the time? She's like, have you apologized? But have you apologized?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Can you even imagine? Like, I just think that that would send bile up your esophagus. Like, like with that, it wouldn't even be, even if she doesn't find what she's doing more repugnant, like your body would, I think. Yeah, it would have to reject it. It comes out somewhere, like, you know. I'm pretty sure that, like, inside, if you looked inside Pambondi's, like, body, you would just find, like, dark, cavernous caves. Like, just, like, yeah, just like the catacombs.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You just find the catacombs if you look inside. It's like smeeagles in there being like, smeecles. Goblins and trolls. Yeah, those and trolls. She's filled with goblins and trolls. Just inside the catacombs. I'm pretty sure medically speaking, that's what you would find inside your body. Okay, well, shall we transition to some lighter fare, some cosmic horror?
Starting point is 00:21:35 Of course. Of course. Please. This week, we are going to be talking about a movie called The Void. Came out in 2016, written and directed by Jeremy Julespie and Stephen Kostanski, starring Aaron Poole, Kathleen Monroe, Daniel Fathers, Mick Biscoff, Ellen Wong, and Kenneth Welsh, and it is streaming on Prime Video. Have you guys heard anything about this movie? Not a thing.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Not a thing. It's been requested a few times. It's on our little request sheet. And I'd seen the poster for a while ago. And this is a great poster, memorable poster. There's like a glowing triangle with a silhouetted man and, like, tentacles coming out of it. So it had been on my radar for a while. I was like, I want to watch this Tenticle Man movie.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Sure, sure. And we've done some cosmic horror in the past. I wrote down a few that we've covered just to get us in the headspace. What was the Nicholas Cage one where they all merge? Color Out of Space, that one. So HP Lovecraft is kind of credited as creating or like, popularizing cosmic horror. He was inspired by a few other people beforehand,
Starting point is 00:22:58 but he kind of brought it into the mainstream, I think. And some movies that we've covered that are cosmic horror examples are event horizon, annihilation, the empty man, sunshine, the thing, Hellraiser, color out of space, Prince of Darkness, that we did with Jemel Bowie and in the mouth of madness, the third in that trilogy is also listed. And I'm like, we've got to get Jamel back to do that. Because I really like, I really like cosmic horror.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What differentiates like cosmic horror from just like aliens? So I looked this up because I feel like I have like an intuitive understanding of cosmic horror. But I was like, what is actually the difference? And the internet told me. Cosmic horror is a subgenre emphasizing the fear of the unknown, existential dread, and human insignificance against vast, incomprehensible and indifferent cosmic entities.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Got it. Got it. It focuses on psychological terror, forbidden knowledge, and the fragility of sanity when faced with truths that defy human understanding. The fragility of sanity. Whoa. And that's coming from the internet. Whereas I feel like it's like specific alien movies
Starting point is 00:24:28 are more like monster movies in terms of genre. They're like adventure monster movies. And then cosmic horror is more like the universe being a place of terror. Yeah. And I think
Starting point is 00:24:45 the unknowable side of it or like things that are beyond understanding is like a big what that does to a part of it yeah where it's just like yeah i find that very scary no i would also claim the thing is also a monster yes there's for sure like crossover and in like there's sci-fi and some of these movies and uh yeah it can be it can be a bit of both but um oof these see you know these are you know these are some of the toughest toughest ones for for me.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah. Event Horizon was like really we should revisit event horizon. I think Event Horizon might be no we should not. My favorite out of the ones that we've covered just in terms of like I think it
Starting point is 00:25:38 achieves that goal the best out of all of them although I mean they're all really good. Don't get me wrong. Obviously I love Hellraiser. And we got to hear the void. We got it. Well, and we will.
Starting point is 00:25:50 We will. We're going to. Okay. Great. And it starts right now. Just kidding. First, I have to tell you that it has a 78% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 62% on Metacritic, and a 5.9 on IMDB. The budget, I really liked this on Wikipedia. It says the budget was greater than $82,510.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Greater than? More than that. Could be anything. anywhere above that. Dwell on that. Numbers are infinite. It's trying to give you a little dose of existential drive. Just a preview little taste.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And it made $377,624. Love it. No more, no left. Exactly right on the dot. But the reason the budget, I think, is presented that way is because they crowdfunded the budget for the creature effects. and then they got some additional funding that I guess just wasn't reported anywhere
Starting point is 00:26:53 so we don't know how much that was. Got it, got it. There is almost no CGI in this movie. The directors seem from poking around on their IMDB pages. They seem like kind of special effects, makeup art department guys. That's cool. One of them or both of them worked in the art department of, of both movies and Welcome to Derry.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And they definitely have taken inspiration from some of the movies we've talked about Event Horizon, the thing, they're big John Carpenter fans. I guess they were working on something with Guillermo del Toro that was like, that never came to be. That was Guillermo del Toro's cosmic horror movie. that now I'm like, well, why didn't that happen? Why didn't that happen? Why come no? He's been busy making a lot of things for Netflix that no one watched. Yeah. The 12 episode Cabinet of Curiosity show that I worked on that I'm pretty sure no one's ever heard of. I watched, I watched two,
Starting point is 00:27:58 I think, two of the 12. Nobody watched all 12. Zero people watched all 12. I didn't even watch the Jennifer Kent one, which is the whole reason I was there in the first place. And I didn't. Oh, right. It was pretty boring. Sorry. Yeah. I'm not. Loving what he's doing lately personally. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's all the trivia I have for this. And I think we should watch the trailer before.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Just, I don't know. Get the vibes. Yeah, show me that. It's kind of what you're probably expecting of like, Ma. That's exactly. So I don't know if you can really spoil, like, things that our human brains can't comprehend, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:41 Well, how could it? Even if I see it, I can't comprehend it. Exactly. It's like, it'll be like I've never seen it before my life. So let's take a look. Perfect. Okay. Unspoilable.
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Starting point is 00:33:17 How'd you find this guy? Copy of code 3 and I need a cyst. This place is. Remarkable. It did killings and sacrifices. And people change. Nothing else matter. Statistically, you're more likely to die in a hospital than anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Vicious, twisted, indescribably horrific. I did think it was funny to end it with that quote. Statistically, you're more likely to die in a hospital than anywhere else. It's like, well, yeah, that's all of sense. That's kind of like a anticlimactic quote to end on when the rest of the trailer was like so intense. Yikes. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah, it's very gross and squelchy. Squelchy. and dark. Like physically dark. Yeah. Truly sometimes you're like, what is happening in here? Sometimes there's like strobe lights so you're extra like.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Well, now I'm blind. That's happening. But yeah, it's 90 minutes. It felt like two and a half hours to me in a way that like maybe I went to the void. Like maybe I was in a different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. because I was just like...
Starting point is 00:35:37 You're like tense the whole time. Locked in. And I wasn't necessarily... I mean, we'll talk more at the end. Like, I wasn't like scared, but it is like... Like, things don't make sense in it necessarily. On purpose or... Well, I think.
Starting point is 00:35:56 But I do think things could have made a little bit more sense. But we'll get to... We'll get to that at the end. Okay. Yeah, I think. it's using the like things are beyond our human mind comprehension as a little bit. I actually don't even know what this movie is. Right. I'm not supposed to. A little bit of a cop out there. But yeah. But okay, let's do it. Let's do it. We begin with a, we're at like a house cabin almost in the middle of the woods. And a man and a woman
Starting point is 00:36:34 run outside the front door screaming. We see a painted triangle on the front door. Man is first out. He makes it to the tree line into the woods, like kind of disappears into the woods. The woman's close behind, but then two men come out of the house, shoot her in the back.
Starting point is 00:36:55 She falls. She's not dead, but they walk up to her, cover her in gasoline and light her on fire. Oh, that was in the trailer. Yeah. Fuck. Didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Did not like that. Did not like that. One little bit. Yeah, it's not good. And then it cuts to black and then we get a flash of someone in white hooded robes with a triangle, black triangle on the face. Kind of squid gamey. Squid game meets Ku Klux Klan. Yeah, Ku Klux Klan.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Meets almost like beekeeper. Leftover. Yeah, yeah. But we just get a flash of that. We don't know what that's about yet. And we may never. Because you're not supposed to. Because you're not supposed to.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You couldn't possibly. No one could. If someone could, we would have made it clear, obviously. But nobody can. Not even us. Then we see it's the same night in a kind of empty road in the middle of the woods. We see a cop in his car, like pulled over to the side of the road on patrol, but kind of
Starting point is 00:38:14 doing the least, just kind of like got his feet up on the dash, looks pretty bored. He's calling in to the station. His shift is like almost over. And he's about to be like, all right, I'm heading back in when the man we saw from the open stumbles out into the road and collapses. At first, the cop just thinks this is a drunk guy. It's like, I've got some drunk here that I, give me a second. I need to talk to him. Walks up to him and flips him over. We see this man is like very bloodied. Something obviously very bad has happened to him. He collapses. He's unconscious now. So this.
Starting point is 00:39:01 The cop's name is Danny. This is our protagonist. Danny and Daniel. Danny short for Daniel. They go back and forth with what they call him a lot. Got it. Just so you know. And he's back on the walkie with the person at the station is like, something's wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:22 This guy need to get this guy to a hospital. There's something's happened. What should I do? And the woman on the other end of the line says like, Well, the closest hospital is this hospital. I actually don't remember the name of the hospital. But they just had that fire there recently. So they're like skeleton crew.
Starting point is 00:39:43 They're like not fully staffed right now. But the next closest hospital is like an additional 45 minute drive. And so he's like, I got to go to the closer one. Tell him I'm coming. Do we know where this is set? No. Nobody does. Nobody does.
Starting point is 00:40:00 You couldn't. There's no way to know. Unknowable. A middle of nowhere seems. I will say that like straight from the beginning, it did, yes, have the feeling of maybe they're all already dead. Like it's so empty and dark and like nondescript. Which, yeah, I do think intentionally gives you like nothing really to grasp onto.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It feels like very empty. Like who's even. this town. So he gets to the hospital, two nurses rush out to help him carry this guy in and get him on. This hospital has two nurses. Two nurses. So how bare bones can be? More than one.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah, that's pretty much all you need. And they get the guy on a stretcher and they're, you know, rolling him back into the, you know, through the little. Floppy doors Flappy doors Bar doors Surgery They take a loom doors in the hospital They take them in
Starting point is 00:41:10 Danny's all flustered This has been Crazy and unexpected He goes to sit in the waiting room And in the waiting room There's a young pregnant girl And her grandfather This is Maggie and Ben
Starting point is 00:41:27 I think there's too many characters in this movie I'll just say it right now. I didn't need them all. Okay. For a place that's empty. Yeah. So every single person you see is a character. Every single person in the town is in this hospital and there's like nine of them. Got it. And nobody else in the whole world, I think. And they know each other. So we're, you know, this super, super small town. Everybody knows each other. We cut to another hospital room in there where there's a guy in a bed and another nurse sitting next to him, but then through their conversation, we find out she's an intern.
Starting point is 00:42:08 She's not, I don't know, graduated yet. I have a lot of questions about her because it seems like she knows, like, actually nothing. Okay. We'll get to some of that later. How did this girl get here? And she's reading through a medical textbook and showing him photos. And she's like, look at this. This is called de-gloving, like so gnarly.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Oh, God. We're like, oh, I wonder if that's going to come back to a little bit. Is there going to be a check-checoves de-gloving situation? Really? I know. Just planting the little seed. And then back in the waiting room, Danny hears screaming, a man screaming, and runs back, finds the guy that he has brought in, has, like, regained consciousness and is trying to fling.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Lee. He's like panicked. The doctor comes in, Dr. Powell. And these two nurses in here are Beverly and Allison. And Dr. Powell sedates this guy, his name's James. Okay. Dr. Powell sedates James while Allison and Beverly help restrain and Maggie's in the waiting room with Ben. Daniel, aka Danny. Ben, the Grand Prix. Ben, the Grandfell. father. Correct. And so they sedate him and they handcuff him to the to the bed. Okay. And then Danny goes into an office. He's cleaning blood off of himself because as he was carrying James in, James was bleeding. And so he's got some of James's blood on him and he's like cleaning himself up in an office. when Allison comes in and brings him a cup of coffee.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And through their conversation, we find out that they are recently divorced. Oh, brother. Tiny town, huh? Tiny town. But they're being friendly. I mean, it seems like there's a sadness between them, but not like an anger. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Mm-hmm. And she gives him the coffee. He, like, makes a joke about how. that's his coffee mug that he forgot to pack. And so she's like, you take it. And he's like, oh, you're being pretty nice. So they're trying to be, they're trying to be nice to each other. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Mm-hmm. And she goes back out to check on James or whatever. And Dr. Powell comes in and talks to Danny and says, you should be gentle with Allison. She's still coming to terms with what happened. Like, you know that losing a child is the worst thing that could have. ever happened. I knew it. I knew it. I was like, that's exactly where we're going. I'm going to tell you, Henley, I don't, I don't buy it in this movie. I think it's unnecessary and it doesn't, it doesn't really add. I don't feel it for these characters. I feel like they
Starting point is 00:45:07 don't really sell it. And it feels kind of shoehorned in here as like, hmm, what's a dark backstory? Right. Right. And what's a quick way to add emotional stakes for women? I don't think it. I don't think it needed it. I'm pretty sick. of it, I got to say of how often it's used just as like a shoehorn to make you feel something about a character. It's constant. It's like, how do we make the audience feel sadness or sympathy for a woman? I know she'll have lost a child. She'll have lost a child. Or she's been raped. Or she's been raped. Those are the only two ways we could ever like be able to feel anything about a woman, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah. Or she has a child through rape. Rape. There you go. There we go. And then the child dies. Right. Let's just get a little more creative, folks.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I feel like other bad things happen. A lot of bad shit can happen to women in other ways. I know. It's true. We contain multitudes. We contain multitudes. That doesn't remind me. I went for a walk alone the other day through the hills by my house.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Brave. Talk about brave. brave, brave, brave, brave. And there's like a staircase I can take. Joel and I take in her walks together. And I don't like love to find myself alone on a staircase if I don't have to. So I was debating. I was like, am I going to go with a route that takes the staircase?
Starting point is 00:46:31 I don't know. I don't know. There could be like a man there and that's really scary. And as I'm like alone in, and again, on like a residential street, it wasn't like a little there. But like up in the hills, I'm worrying about a strange man. I look up in a coyotes in the middle of the road. And I was like, right.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Also that. Also be aware of nature. Nature, animals. The coyote was fine. And I did take the stare well and there were no man in any way. I'm just saying there's women can be scared of anything. I can also be a coyote. We're upset about anything. Speaking of, there was a fucking massive raccoon outside of my house the other night, which reminded me that when we went out to dinner. I would rather walk into a coyote. These raccoons out here are getting so big. And also they don't have any boundaries. They have no boundaries. They're like. They're like, I'm going to come into your house and live with you. How big? How big are they? Really big. I thought it was, I thought it was a coyote. And they're truly quite large. You know, they also, didn't raccoons also evolve to be like cuter?
Starting point is 00:47:34 Aren't they getting cuter and their hands are getting more agile? Do we need to be more worried about raccoons? I mean, honestly, raccoons really carry like rabies and stuff and they're gross. And I don't, I don't like raccoons. Sorry, I don't like raccoons. A lot of people think raccoons are really cute. I find them to be upsetting. You prefer possums.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I much prefer possums. Right, right. Possums is kind of a crazy take. We've been through this. I know. Unless it always comes back to this. And skunks would be higher if they weren't such a stink risk, you know? I know.
Starting point is 00:48:05 You've always got to be a little bit worried about a skunk. I am seeing more and more coyotes lately, which is not great to be seeing in the city. But I will say they also look healthier than I've ever seen L.A. I mean, they're so huge. They're obviously eating well. The coyotes are huge? Oh, the coyotes. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:20 No, the coyotes. But the raccoons. Sorry. She's got raccoons with the brain. The raccoons might be eating all the coyotes food. Maybe. But no, but the coyotes look well fed. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Maybe there's just enough to go around. Everything's perfect. Do you think the raccoons? Do you think that they, like, go home and, like, knit? Do you think that they're doing, like, things with their hands? They're doing that thing with a coin where they pass the coin down. Yeah. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Like, their hands are so agile and down. All the raccoons are just sitting in a little circle. I just got her hands strength. Coins off the street to go. They're doing the little thing where you're like, you put your fingers upside out. Church is a steeple. You're heading around. See all the people.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Obviously, and I know it. I can obviously do it. I just like, what are they doing with those hands? You know, why do they, their hands need? I don't know. Their hands are freaky. Raccoons are freaky. Their hands can do too much.
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Starting point is 00:50:47 Free meals applied as discount on first box. New subscribers only varies by plan. So Dr. Powell brings up their child that they've lost and he says, you know when I lost Sarah, it changed me. And so we've got like six characters in here. three of them have lost a child. Well, to be fair, I mean two of them lost the same child. That's true.
Starting point is 00:51:16 That's true. But I was a little bit like, whoa, we're really going hard on the child loss thing. Well, Sarah, maybe Sarah was somebody else, an adult. She's not. Oh, okay. It's his child. Got it. So, okay, so we're having this moment of yes, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:34 We'll all be gentle with each other because we've suffered losses. And we're certainly not going to suffer anymore. No, and that's probably as bad as it gets. So now Danny's walking down the hospital halls to go check on James again when he passes a room and he sees Beverly with the other guy that his name is Cliff, I think, doesn't matter. But he was the guy that intern Kim was talking to in his hospital bed about the de-gloving. and Danny sees Beverly like standing over Cliff kind of motionless in a weird way and he peeks his head in as like Beverly
Starting point is 00:52:18 is everything okay she doesn't really move he's trying to see around her to like get a look at her face or Cliff's face and sees that she is stabbing Cliff in the eye Oh, no. Cliff is dead. And Danny is like panicking, obviously. Well, not panicking. Does he go in there or does he back away slowly? He's just like, oh my God, Beverly, what the hell is happening? And it's like in a reasonable amount. Not a full-blown panic. Not a full-blown panic. Sammy, let's stick to the facts. If you could just really stick to the facts and not over-dramatize this.
Starting point is 00:53:04 All dramatic, okay? Let's not get hysterical here, okay? Was he panicking or not? It's a mild panic. It's a controlled panic. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:16 That's the kind of description we're looking for. She turns around and we see that she has, I think it's a scalpel is what she had stabbed him with. And she has also been using it to cut off her own face. And she turns to Danny and kind of pleadingly is like, this isn't my face. Can you help me? This isn't my face. And she's like peeling off pieces of her skin.
Starting point is 00:53:45 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. And he's trying to calm her down. He's like, is he panicking yet? He's pretty close. We're pretty close to a panic. He's like, that's the only face you get, my love. We can't go to the face store and get you a new one. This is it.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And she's coming closer to him and. kind of begging him. She's like, please help me. This isn't my face. Please help me. But she's also wielding the scalpel. Like, she's going to stab him with it. And she's coming closer. And he's like, Beverly, stop. And you just stop right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. Stop my face. Help me. And he shoots her and kills her. Okay. One down. One down from the tiny town. Yeah. Then Allison and Dr. Powell run in. Obviously, they've fired a gunshot and see what What's happened in the room? Cliff dead, Beverly dead, Danny, now panicking, freaking out. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And he's trying to explain what happened, but can't find his words. Because he's panicking. He's panicking. He runs to the bathroom. And he's trying to like wash, because her blood is like sprayed on him now. So he's like washing. This man's getting so much blood, so much other people's blood on him today. And he's like washing it off.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And as he looks at himself in the mirror, he has a moment of like a vision of dark clouds and a very like empty mountain landscape. It reminds me of the part in the matrix where it's like the world, the scorched world. Okay. And then there's also like a couple images of just like blood and tissue and muscle and. and just nasty stuff, and then he passes out. When he comes to Allison and Dr. Powell are leaning over him, helping him. They tell him to take it slow. It seems like you might have had a seizure.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He's like, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. He's trying to get up. They're saying that a state trooper just got here. Because he had called in James, and so he was expected. someone to come, but he was, he's also like, oh, you got here really fast. And this state trooper, his name's Mitchell. Okay, thank you. Mitchell says, well, there's a crime scene right near here. It's an absolute blood bath. And this is the cap in that we saw in the opening scene that he's referring to. A woman was burned alive and other horrors have occurred there. We're not going to get
Starting point is 00:56:25 into that right now. Yes. So he's like, okay, we need to call this in. We need like, more backup. They go to the office. Phone's not working. Go to another, like, the front desk. The phone's not working. And we're not dealing with what just happened with Beverly. Oh, also, is it the 80s?
Starting point is 00:56:44 Did you say that? Because it said, like, in the trailer, it said... I don't think it's the 80s, but I think it's in the vein of, like, event horizon and the thing. And so it's, like, associated with horror movies of that time. But I'm pretty sure it's... Like, do they have cell phones?
Starting point is 00:57:03 I guess not. It is a little unanchored in time. Well, they're all dead. Maybe. Or, yeah, they might all be dead already. So, Danny says I need to go out to my car, try the walkie in there. And he goes outside. His car is parked right in front of the hospital.
Starting point is 00:57:25 His patrol car goes in. He's trying to press him in a little button, not working. no signal. He's about to go back inside when he sees a guy in white robes with a black triangle on the face that at first he's like, hello, who are you? What's your deal? Can't be anything good. Yeah, this guy does not respond.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And then there's like a power surge, so it gets really bright for a second. and then the power goes out and right in that moment as it distracts Danny as he's like looking back towards the hospital like what the fuck is going on this guy charges him this guy's got a big old knife like a scream knife hunting knife type thing and he is on top of Danny and doing the classic like trying to press the knife down into him Danny's pushing it up and just like really slowly because of how Danny's pressing against him, but it is stabbing into him. He's like getting stabbed in the chest, but just so slowly. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And then is eventually able to like push the guy off and he runs back into the hospital. They lock the doors. And we see many more robed figures emerge from the woods and just kind of circle around the hospital. Ew. They're not trying to get in. The crime scene in the beginning, the guy who lit them on fire. They weren't dressed in robes.
Starting point is 00:59:02 No. Right? Okay. Mm. All right. So Danny is now losing some blood. He's collapsed onto the floor of the, you know, entrance waiting room area of the hospital. They're trying to put pressure on the wound.
Starting point is 00:59:18 And this is where they start calling in Kim, the intern. And she seems like completely incapable of doing anything. They're like, keep pressure. on it and she's like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, which I get it. It is, it would be scary, obviously, but that seems like kind of the most basic thing that you could do in a hospital is like keep pressure on the wound. This will begin a series of Kim's incompetence, seemingly complete lack of knowledge of any medical information. Got it. I just thought you kind of became an intern after some amount of learning.
Starting point is 00:59:56 It's not like she's interning at like a video production. Right. It's like. But even like the applying pressure, I feel like I could do that. I haven't even learned a single thing, you know? Yeah, exactly. So where did this woman come from? The void?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yeah. She comes straight from the void. No, I'm just giving her shit. There's not really any, there's no sinister reason behind it. She's just frustratingly unhelpful. Well, so those are, yeah, those are the options for women. You either lose your child. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:00:26 You die immediately or you're bad at your job. Or you're just bad at your job and frustratingly unhelpful. Well, and nurses are women and doctors are men. Right. I'm so glad that they cleared that off in this film. So, Danny is having more of those visions of the rolling dark clouds and some, like, space nebulae, nebulaebula. With E at the end, though. Nebula.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Nebula. Nebula. And as he kind of comes back to, there's, again, telling him, take it slow, take it slow. We've stopped the bleeding for now, but you should take it slow. He's like, I'm fine. Charges gets up. We're hearing screaming coming from James's room now, where he is handcuffed to the bed.
Starting point is 01:01:21 We run in there. Beverly is a full huge tentacle monster. What? I wasn't expecting that. It's crazy. How do we know it's Beverly? Yeah. She has her face.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Her like peeled off face part is still visible. Is she big? Bigger than she was? She's bigger than she was. Okay. She bigger than she was? I'm trying to get a visual. on her. She's bigger than before. Trying to get a visual on Bev.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah. She as big as she could be? She fits in the room. She fits through the door. She can go through the door. I don't know if she'd fit through the door. Does she have legs and arms or just tentacles? Hard to say. There's probably some legs and arms in there, but she seems to be moving around mainly with the tentacles. Got it. The legs and arms have become obsolete based on the size of the rest of her. What color are we talking here? you know, brown and brown and bloody. Okay. Brown. Ugh. Wow. Again, it's all practical effects, which is awesome. They did an amazing job, but it is also like strategically dark and shadowy and like obscured by other pieces of furniture or whatever. So it is hard to wrap your head around what you're looking at.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And also, even if you could see it, your brain wouldn't be able to wrap around around it. Yeah. It's mostly obscured by our own inability to see or understand what's in front of us. Is she talking? I don't think so. Okay. I think she's making monster sounds. She's just making gurgly octopus noises.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Yeah. So the state trooper and Danny run in, guns drawn, they're shooting at Beverly. It's not doing anything. Shot her before. Yeah. She's not of this world. and we do have, we do see in their faces that they are seeing something that their brains can't make sense of. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Which would be really crazy. Imagine just going into another room and there was all of a sudden a huge tentacle monster in there. That would be really tough. Yeah. It would be a lot at once to try to deal with. Even if you're primed with like all these other kind of stressful out of the ordinary crazy events that have had. You just don't expect to see a thing that you didn't even know could exist. Yeah. Yeah. There's really no preparing you for that. Especially when it's a person who you used to know, who was alive as a human being, mere moments before and is now. Bigger than she was. You thought was dead, but now is bigger than she was. That's kind of the craziest thing about the situation. I thought you were dead. How did you get bigger? Now you're bigger than you were before. That's not how matter works. So they, I realize them shooting is doing nothing.
Starting point is 01:04:20 James is, of course, like screaming, help me. He's cuffed to the bed. He's trying to get away from her. Danny comes up and is able to, like, kick the... And she's like, she's like attacking them or wanting to. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Danny's able to free James and they all just run out of the room again. She kind of seems like she's not going to fit through the door.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And they run back into the, to the main area of the hospital. and right at that moment through the front door come the two guys from the opening scene. Oh, shit. I was, while watching this, pretty much the whole time, I was like, who are these guys? What's their deal? Right.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah, because they're not part of the cults. No. They're just violent murderers. Well, we don't know that. They're like somewhere in the middle. I think that they have, I think what has happened is they have been exposed to the insanity of the creatures.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And so they're just like... ...becoming... ...living in a different reality. Yeah. They're just like, everyone is a threat and we can't trust anybody. So we must kill everyone that we come upon. Yeah. And I think that their father and son, but I don't know that they ever say it.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And I feel like, again, this is part of the things where it's like it feels like... It feels underwritten, but it also, I'm sure they're like, it's intentional. It's vague. It's vague. So that you're, like, confused and don't know what's happening and, like, feel uneasy about. The incoherence is on purpose. Right. Is there still a pregnant lady in the wedding room?
Starting point is 01:06:03 Mm-hmm. Is she pregnant like she's there to give birth or she just happens to be pregnant? She's, like, real close. And she's there because she's feeling. pain. And so it's not, that's not good. Now, that's another thing that can happen to women. Yeah, wow, this is really not where you want to be when you're about to give birth. This is another thing that can happen. Right. I'm really glad they included it, though, because most people don't know this about women, but they do have, they do give birth. Yeah. Well, and they can have pregnancy trauma. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:32 yeah. So these two guys bust in, guns drawn, they want James. They see James. This is the guy that got away from them in the opening scene. Got it. And they're like, give us him. Like, we're going to kill this guy. Of course, everybody else is trying to like defuse the situation. Calm down, come down, everybody. Get back.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Get back. Get back. It really intense. And in the, like, commotion of it all, James grabs pregnant lady, grabs a scalpel from somewhere. It's a hospital. Got it.
Starting point is 01:07:10 He's bad. I think. he's just panicked. And he's like, they're trying to kill me. So uses this pregnant lady as kind of a shield. Yeah. I mean, I'd call it bad. You know, sometimes you got to do what you got to do.
Starting point is 01:07:28 He's back into a corner. What else are you going to do? And he's like holding a scalp bladder throat, like telling them to get back. Danny's trying, like putting himself in between everyone. like he's telling everybody to calm down and then Dr. Powell is approaching James like trying to he's like give me the scalpel like son you like don't and as he gets close close to James James
Starting point is 01:07:55 James scalples him right in the neck stabs him like through the neck he's James spray in blood Dr. Powell collapses dies Oh my goodness oh okay Maggie starts going into labor Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tenticle, Bev has made her way out of the room.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Oh, God, she could. She sped through the door. Oh, God. She squished sideways or something. I mean, how could we be so foolish? We've all seen how good oxypus are at. Squat, so there's squicking in rooms, squishing in small places.
Starting point is 01:08:36 You mean, you ever seen a cat get in a little tight space? I mean, I imagine that was a real missed opportunity. for them to have some good physical comedy though in the background this whole time Bev's been trying to get out of the room in the background like trying to squeeze through Oh yeah yeah Like when a little rat got his butt stuck in the sewer
Starting point is 01:08:55 And he's trying to squeeze it Squeeze a little button Yeah a real missed opportunity Apparently these directors did do a lot of comedies before this So I wonder if that's a deleted scene maybe somewhere Oh my gosh nice nice Nice Beb
Starting point is 01:09:11 grabs the state trooper with her tentacles and drags him off screen into another room. He's screaming. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Danny grabs like an emergency axe, like breaks the glass, grabs the axe. He's following. He's going to go save Mitchell. But he gets into the, like, hallway place where he's, where Beverly has him. And these tentacles are going just absolutely everywhere.
Starting point is 01:09:41 through Mitchell's eyes, nose, mouth, just like his chest. And, yeah, Mitchell's done. Yeah. Yikes. And I think Danny still does, like, chop off some of the tentacles. And he's, like, trying to axe her head area thinking, like, this is probably where you can kill her. It's not.
Starting point is 01:10:06 It's not killing her. So he eventually is like, all right, I'll just go back. It's like I did my best. I have done what I could do here. And like still seems like there's a lot of bad stuff happening. Do you just leave the two guys and James and the ladies giving birth? There's no doctors around? Well, the doctor's dead.
Starting point is 01:10:27 I know. Where's his divorced wife? Allison. She's in the waiting room. Everybody else is in the waiting room. And they're kind of, it's very chaotic. They're kind of uniting in. just the chaos of it all. They're like, okay, we just need to like get to a place that we can
Starting point is 01:10:47 defend, like a smaller space than this where there's less entrances and exits. So they're like, we need to get to the office. And they've got like some weapons. The father and son have guns. He's got an axe. Are the father and son on their side now? Are they working together? They are kind of, but they're not, they're not happy about it. They're not like, okay, great, we're all one happy family now, but it's just kind of in the panic of the moment. They're like, all right, there's a month. There's an actual monster. We've got to get the octopus and then we'll deal with the other elephant.
Starting point is 01:11:19 But, you know, temporary truce. So they all get in the office and Allison is realizing that she's going to need a lot of medical supplies because we're going to have to deliver a baby in here. Maggie is like screaming in pain. And she, I can't remember how she realizes this, but she realizes she's going to need a C-section. Oh, God. And so she's like, I got to go out to the medical supply closet. Danny's like, you can't do that. It's not safe out there.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Like, let me go. And then for some reason, they're like, I need, they need more weapons from Danny's car. Danny has another shotgun in his car. And so they're like, let us just like go get extra weapons. And then we'll come back and then we'll take you to the medical closet. Just stay here. And he convinces the father and son to go with him. Because there's still all the like robed people.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Oh, right. They're there too. The hospital. Yikes. And so they agree. on the condition that once they get the gun, it's theirs. They're like, we're not doing this for you, but we'll help you go get it, and then it's ours. And he's like, fine, just need more weapons. And he says, don't worry, I parked right outside. Like, we'll just go run, grab it, come right back.
Starting point is 01:12:52 They're like, great. So they go, walk outside. The robed guys have moved further back. So they're like against the tree line. And as they exit the hospital, the car and the parking, lot have gotten like so much bigger and the car is extremely far away and danny's like what the what the fuck and they're like I thought you said it was close and I really like that type of stuff oh that's would be so scary yeah yeah yeah so now the car is really far away but they run to it and the cloaked guys are all just like standing still all holding knives in their hands Like they're just like waiting for something. The situation is escalating inside.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Maggie is like kind of going in and out of consciousness. And they're like, we're running out of time. So Allison decides she's going to go to the medical closet before they get back. She's like, I need to, I just need to go grab this stuff. We don't have time for this. So she goes out into the hallway while the, the triangle cloak guys descend upon our three guys in the cop car
Starting point is 01:14:15 tense moment of them trying to unlock the shotgun and it's not unlocking these guys are getting closer they get it they shoot one of the guys the rest of the cloaked guys kind of back off a little bit so that they're able to get back inside with the gun okay
Starting point is 01:14:32 we see Allison in the medical supply room She's like looking through shelves and looking for what she needs. And then there's a jump scare. Dr. Powell is behind her. Oh, no. Oh, is he a squid? No, but he's alive. And they definitely saw him die.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Yeah. So the guys come back in. They get back to the office where everybody is. Allison's gone. They said she went to get the medical supplies. they're trying to find her calling out to her they go to the medical supply room
Starting point is 01:15:13 nobody's there and then the phone rings in Dr. Powell's office so the phones are working are all looking pretty confused and suspicious Danny goes in and answers it we hear Dr. Powell's voice
Starting point is 01:15:32 which is a very good like deep scary voice and he's saying something like, when I lost Sarah, I lost myself, and I had to go looking for answers. And he's like yelling at her like, where's Allison? What's happening?
Starting point is 01:15:53 And he sees this like box of Polaroids on Dr. Powell's office desk that are just the most grotesque images of like torsos and like skinned body. and you can't even like really tell what you're looking at but it's it's bad and obviously Dr. Powell is is uh the main source of whatever is happening here okay so he's like a sadist is he's he the cult leader he's a he's a cult leader okay he says when you collapsed i know you saw it too you saw what i saw like referring to the images that danny saw when he passed out and he says, don't worry, Allison is down here with me.
Starting point is 01:16:42 We look also on the phone and it says that the call is coming from the morgue. And Danny's yelling like, what are you doing with her? I give her back to me. And he says, don't worry, Daniel, I'm going to help her. Don't like the sound of that. No. He runs out to the father and son and he's like, what the fuck is? going on here like something like somebody knows something and they're like james knows something james was
Starting point is 01:17:12 at the place where all those fucking freaks were or whatever it's hard to tell what's going on but intentionally so and so they they grab james and they're interrogating him and james says it's the doctor the doctor is the leader and i killed him i killed him for you and they're like well he's not dead anymore says, I met a girl. I was trying to score some drugs. She took me back to this house, said there were drugs there, but there were no drugs there. They, like, tied us up. They made us have sex with each other. They made us watch as he, like, killed people. It was like a fucking nightmare. And he does, like, seem like he's on drugs. And so that's, like, maybe why he seems, like, unreliable at first. And now we're like, oh, this guy's been through some fucking shit.
Starting point is 01:18:09 He's traumatized. Yeah. Kim, intern Kim is now in charge of Maggie because Allison is gone. Beverly is gone. And we're like, you're going to have to perform a C-section. She couldn't even put pressure on a wound. No. So obviously she is losing her shit and just saying, I can't, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Which like, I agree. I agree that you can't based on what I've seen so far. No. Oh, and then something else James says to them is he made people change. I saw him change people. Seems like is he, like, drugged out and speaking gibberish? It's hard to say. So James and the girl that was lit on fire had been kept in the house by the cult.
Starting point is 01:18:56 And then the father and son are just random people who came in. I believe so. like had someone in the house. I like knew someone in the house. I don't know. But yeah. Something like that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:12 They grabbed James. Now we've got the four guys, Danny, father, son and James. And they're like, all right, well, we're going to go visit your friend, Dr. Powell, in the basement. He's, you know, in the morgue. We're going down there. We're going to go confront him. And James is, of course, like, screaming. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Like anything but that. They give Kim a walkie-talkie so that they can talk to each other. So Kim and Maggie and Ben are in the office, barricaded in there, while the rest of them go down to the basement. Danny's saying, like, I'll need you to, like, tell me where to go. Like, I've never been down there before so you can direct me kind of thing. So she's on the walkie with him. She's like, okay, go down the stairs.
Starting point is 01:19:59 He's like, okay, we're down the stairs. And it's like so nasty down there in a way that already feels like otherworldly. It's like we just went into the stranger things world. The upside down. The upside down. And it's really dark and nasty. And they got a couple of flashlights and their guns drawn. But it's hard to tell where anything is.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And then there's another staircase. and Danny says to Kim, is there, is it the next floor down? And she's like, what are you talking about? There's not another floor. It should just be one staircase. He's like, there's another staircase here. And then the walkie-talkie's all like breaking up and they can't hear each other anymore. So they go down the second staircase.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Descending to hell. And cut to Allison waking up in the morgue. She's on a, you know, the little like metal bed thing that people are on an autopsy table. Thank you. And Dr. Powell is like prepping something in the corner. Scott is back to her and her eyes are darting around. He's like, yeah, you won't be able to move. So she can't move, but she can speak and she's asking him what's happening.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And we're just seeing like little inserts and close-ups of like bloody. He's doing something bloody. Ew. Just seeing like little bloodied instruments and can't quite tell what he's doing. And he's saying, you know, haven't you ever wished you could save someone no matter what the cost? And we're cutting back and forth between the four guys coming down. they're seeing triangles drawn on the floor and like creepy symbols and the two father and son like recognize that from the house from the opening scene and then we cut back upstairs to like
Starting point is 01:22:09 Maggie is kind of losing consciousness and she's she's bleeding now Kim is like completely panicking no help at all a tough one though to be fair yeah yeah I mean you absolutely wouldn't able to just know how to do a C-section. She's flipping through her textbook like, oh, God, oh, no, where are you supposed to cut? Like, I don't, you know, like, I wouldn't. No, I would have no idea, and I've given birth twice. I would have no fucking idea. Also, I keep thinking of the beginning of Welcome to Derry, and I'm not convinced that that
Starting point is 01:22:44 baby is actually just going to be like a winging demon or a tentacle. Right, right, right. Something. Yeah. Yeah. So, back to Allison and Dr. Powell. and he's doing his, like, mysterious, creepy talking to her and says, you know, he's basically saying how he's, like, figured out how to bring people back. And he says, of course, I've made some mistakes.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Some of my mistakes are downstairs with us right now. In fact, they are the ones that lit the fire. They were trying to die, but I won't let them die. and he says, I lost my daughter to the abyss, but tonight I'm calling her back. And he's kind of taunting her about her own loss of her child and like, you're going to get your child back too. And pulls down, she's like covered with a sheet.
Starting point is 01:23:44 He pulls it down and her belly is pulsing and moving and throbbing. and like filled with something possibly tentically when back to our four guys come upon a room in the hospital in the basement that is just filled. This is like the event horizon room. It's filled with bodies. Ooh, there's like a person that is silhouetted
Starting point is 01:24:17 and they're banging their forehead against a, like, pole. but like impaling their head on the pole just over and over and over and then they notice the guys and they turn and their head is just like a huge hole through it so these are all just like reanimated corpses
Starting point is 01:24:38 that can't die and are all like trying to kill themselves because Dr. Powell has like brought them back to life and is keeping them in this basement to experiment on them okay They see the guys enter and they kind of converge upon them and they're like crawling and some of them are like contortiony like bones bending the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:25:04 One grabs James and smashes like bashes his head into the wall, kills James. James is dead. Oh, okay. She's bye. Bye James. Upstairs, Maggie is screaming in pain and Grandpa Ben is. like Kim, you have to, like she's going to die. You just have to try. Just do something. And she's like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. Close up on Ben and his throat gets slit. Blood sprays all over. Kim, he falls to the ground, revealing Maggie standing behind him with a big smile on her face. And she says, it's finally time. I'm so lucky to be carrying Dr. Powell's child.
Starting point is 01:25:50 and nothing else matters now. Okay. So now the cult members have gotten inside as well, and Kim just like barricades herself in a closet. The chaos downstairs has like spread like Danny and the father and son are all separated. Father walks into a room that like magically turns into his home. We see a family portrait of him and the son and like a mother and a baby. And then the son walks in and he like turns on him and is like,
Starting point is 01:26:32 you should have protected them. I wasn't there. You should have protected them. And he starts like trying to kill his son. Son grabs a flare and like shoves the flare in his stomach. Which like turns like brings things back to normal. We see the room is just like a nasty basement hell room. And now the dad's like crying and apologizing. He's like, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And Danny
Starting point is 01:26:59 finds Allison in the, well, we know in the morgue, but it's like seeming dreamy, like just like a regular sunlit hospital room and she's pregnant about to give birth. And he's holding her hand and she's saying, I'm scared. And he's like, it's okay. I'm with you. I'm with you. Like going back to the day of their child's birth, and then the light in the room changes to nasty, fluorescent, horrible light, hell, light, hell. And we hear Powell's disembodied voice just like echoing from everywhere. And he says, I know your secret, Daniel. I saw it in your face. the day your son died, I saw relief. Really pretty, pretty gnarly.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Daniel has an axe still and the room flashes to reality. What is actually happening in Allison is dead and there is tentacles like bursting from her chest and belly and like all over the room. Great. Okay. And Danny just starts chopping her up. Oh, God. Oh, right. Sure. Sure. Sure. I mean, what, what, what, what is a man to do? Right. And Powell is saying, she's finally a mother. Isn't she beautiful? Ew. What the fuck? Then Danny is kind of like all of a sudden in a room with a glowing triangle on the wall. Powell asks him, do you see? Do you see now? Danny says, I see a monster that thinks he's God. Powell says, you still don't understand after everything I've shown you. I also don't understand.
Starting point is 01:28:59 I'm like, Powell, you got to make it a little clearer. If you have a specific aim here, my dude, just put it out there because I don't know what it is. Stop speaking so cryptically. And then he says that he defies God. There are things much older than God, much older. than time itself. And he says he's like made contact with these things. And he knows now that you shouldn't be afraid of death.
Starting point is 01:29:28 He has to embrace death. He just needs one last thing. And then Maggie appears and stabs Danny in the back. Danny collapses. Powell emerges from dark, shadowy corner. We see that he is fully skinned Hellraiser style. No skin left on his body. The cultists are all closing in.
Starting point is 01:29:53 They're all in the room here too, around this, gather around this glowing triangle that now Powell's standing in front of, Powell says they've all come to watch my transformation. Watch the abyss open itself to me. He gets on his knees and he puts his hands against the triangle and he starts chanting in some sort of ancient language. And the triangle like pushes,
Starting point is 01:30:16 back and reveals just a white void. Maggie has this big smile on her face. She, like, runs up next to him. She's like, I'm ready, I'm ready. Put his hand on her head and says, place my daughter into this vessel. And immediately Maggie's in excruciating pain. Go figure.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Yeah. And she falls on the ground. Her belly absolutely explodes with tentacles. Oh, God. And we see Sarah Powell's lost daughter as a Beverly-type monster, bigger than she was. Oh, bigger than she was. A lot more tentacles. Huge.
Starting point is 01:30:57 And then Sarah's descending upon Danny. Oh, she's really nasty. I mean, the tentacles kind of cover it, but it's also like her feet are all bent the wrong way. Like there are limbs that are just like not right. Like in the mix. Mm-hmm. when we hear a gunshot and Sarah is shot in what seems to be her head, but it doesn't really do anything because as we've established,
Starting point is 01:31:22 these are kind of undead abominations. And we turn and we see that is the father and son. They are still alive. Wow. Heroes. Sarah reaches out with tentacles and impales the father, similar to how Trooper Mitchell, like just like, Not in his face, but like all through his chest and torso.
Starting point is 01:31:47 It's just like... So they're like sharp? They don't seem sharp. I think they're just pressing really hard. They're really strong. Are they like eating them or just like doing this just for fun? Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Absorbing their... It's hard to say. It's pretty dark. Pretty dark. Pretty hard to tell. Because we want it to be. It was intentional. That was an intentional choice.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Did you guys notice? I bet you'd like to see this better. What does that tell you about yourself? Did you guys notice how you couldn't see anything in this film? That was on purpose? Pretty scary, huh? To not know what it is that you're looking at. So the father says to the son, like, do it, do it as he's like pouring gasoline all over himself.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Son is crying. The son, by the way, I didn't mention has, like, bandages all around his neck. Something has happened to him where he can't speak. He's gotten like a, like a. Oh. tracheotomy. Yeah, something, something happens. So he's, we're seeing it all in his face.
Starting point is 01:32:49 He's devastated, but he has to light his father on fire so that he can light Sarah on fire. And after he does this, he finds like an air vent thing in the floor and just like starts trying to escape through the vents. We see Danny kind of, you know, he's been stabbed a couple times. now he's not doing great and Powell is you know watching over this like it's his kingdom he's looking so pleased with himself is he okay with Sarah having been fucking yeah because I think lit on fire the thinking is that he's tried this on literally every everybody like he tried it on Allison too like I think he's used to not actually being able to bring Sarah back got it I think he's like he's still working on it it's a work in progress he's going to keep trying until he gets her
Starting point is 01:33:42 Sure, sure, sure, okay. So he doesn't seem too upset about it. Okay. But he's talking to Danny and he says, you know, you can be with Allison again. You can be with your son again. All you have to do is let go. This isn't the end. And Danny's looking at him and he says, yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:34:06 And he grabs him and shoves, like tackles him into the trivents. triangle void portal. Okay. And it closes up behind him. I didn't know that that would work. I wouldn't have thought to do that. But I guess good thinking, Danny. The whole hospital now starts shaking earthquake,
Starting point is 01:34:30 some dimension, reality. Craziness is happening. Your mind couldn't comprehend what's happening. We see the sun, like running through a hall, way to try to get back to the main area of the hospital as the Sarah monsters still chasing him through the, through the halls are getting tighter and tighter, like the corridor is closing in on them and he makes it out and Sarah doesn't. We don't see her get squished, but that's the implication. And he just is spat out like right in the main hospital area. He finds Kim in the closet that she was
Starting point is 01:35:10 hiding in. They hug. They're crying in each other's arms. Oh my God. I think it's over. The sun's coming up. It's a beautiful sunrise. Cut to black and then cut to the dark, scary clouds that we've seen a few times.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Pan down and reveal Danny and Allison in this hellish dimension reality. They are looking up, kind of blanking. face look up and see just a huge black triangle floating above them. They interlace hands. And that's the end of the movie. Huh. Hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Wait. So it was Danny and Kim at the end? Or was it, sorry, it was the son and Kim at the end? Son and Kim. They're the ones who came out alive. Yes. Because what happened? to all the cloak guys.
Starting point is 01:36:12 They were down there and I think like, I don't know, the portal closed and they died. Because I think they were in like a level of the hospital that didn't exist in reality. Like because they went down that extra set of stairs. Got it. Yeah, yeah. And so I think that whole section of the hospital ceased to exist. So they ceased to exist right along with it. Got it.
Starting point is 01:36:41 And Danny and Allison, do we think that they are in, like, through the portal where the bad guy went? Are they in a new place, a different place? I think they're in the same place personally. Because, yeah, because we don't see them. So visions. Hard to say him. Yeah, because he referenced the visions. Sure.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Yeah. I mean, it's not, it's not my favorite of the cosmic horror movies, but. It did help me kind of cement what cosmic horror is and appreciate it and made me want to watch more cosmic horror. I'm interested, too. I like an existential dread. Yeah. I'm into that. I would love some more answers, though, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:32 Yeah. Wouldn't we all? I know that's kind of the point. It's interesting because, but it is the point. But it's also like, I think other ones do it better where the lack of answers feels really scary rather than just confusing. Like I feel like this doesn't answer things in a way that doesn't leave me like rattled and afraid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just leaves me like, hmm.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Right. Oh, right. Right. Huh. Whereas Event Horizon made me feel that existential dread. Yeah. God, I don't even. fucking remember what Event Horizon did to me, but I know that I don't want, I don't want to go back
Starting point is 01:38:18 there. Well, and annihilation too. I feel like that's like so unsettling. Like I felt very upset in that one. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I don't think this is like the, the greatest cosmic horror film, but I really appreciate it as a subgenre. And I, I feel like, Yeah, it just makes me interested in seeing more because it's, you know, I'm going to use the word fun. Sure. No, but it was in its own way kind of fun because it was so ridiculous from the beginning. Yeah, and it because it's like what are the rules here? What's the reality?
Starting point is 01:39:01 What's truth? It like can really, it can mess around, you know? Yeah. It's a good like mystery. It was making me feel like the first season of life. lost vibes where I was just like, what's this now? What's this now? And obviously, hard to land the plane, but sure. I guess when landing the plane is just like, and nothing is knowable. Right. Right. Then you've done it. But also, you can do anything then. And does that count?
Starting point is 01:39:30 Right. Yeah, I'm specifically more interested in the cult, like who those people were, whether those were actually like towns people or were they otherworldly things or or yeah like what's happened who where'd they come from were they humans were they not humans I have um the same questions it's hard to feel like the stakes it's hard to feel like the stakes are high when you don't actually know who anyone is or care who anyone is I would say the the the characters are not the most like interesting And yeah, obviously that's a huge part of what makes a movie good or not. So, right.
Starting point is 01:40:18 But I still enjoyed myself. I mean, I do have to go to bed right now. So that sucks for me. Well, that does suck for you. That sucks for you. It sucks for me. I'm going to have to watch some Peppa Pig first. Watch little Peppa Pig.
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