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This is a headgum podcast.
This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy.
And you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch.
Hi, everyone.
Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch,
the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves.
I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to.
And this week we've got some.
Cosmic horror.
Whoa.
Because I think what we're all needing right now is a little bit of existential drag.
Yes.
I don't have enough of that.
Yeah.
Not enough.
No, positively zapped of any amount of existential dread.
I got you.
I got you, Emily.
Thank you.
But I also love horror that's, you know, located outside of Earth's surface.
You know what I mean?
That's coming from space.
Well, I had to tell you this one is on Earth.
Well, yeah.
But I mean, you know what I mean.
You know what I mean.
So both.
A little bit of both.
A little bit of both.
Little bit of both.
Well, but we're not going to get into it just yet.
There are times.
Samson, the show notes if you want to skip straight to it.
But first, Emily and Henley, did anything scary happen to you guys this week?
Joel and I took a little vacation, which was very nice.
We went to Northern California, Sonoma area.
Joel found a lovely hotel.
That was what we based our trip on, was a hotel.
And we're like, we'll drive.
We'll take a road trip.
Perfect.
So we were really just hanging out, drinking wine, chilling hard.
And I was like, we should do a spa situation.
And I was like, we're in, like, Sonoma.
There has to be nice, fancy, you know, cool little spas.
And I found this lovely spa called Osmosis that did, does, offered to us and we accepted a cedar bath.
Ooh.
Which was like.
Like being in a sauna?
No, it's like being in a mud bath, but it's not mud.
It's wood?
It's more like mulch.
It's like cedar flakes.
It's a mix of cedar.
Like they're marinating you.
Yeah, you bet you it's it's fermented.
It's, okay, so it's like cedar and rice brand.
Like you're a salmon.
Yes, you're, yes.
It's, okay, so it was like that, so it was the texture of, um, I was expecting to be the texture of, um, I was
expecting to be the texture of coffee grounds. It wasn't. It was more like the texture of the pencil
shavings from an electric pencil sharpener. I was going to say just like full of splinters. But not,
but not. Like soft. And also kind of damp. And so it's this big, so it's this gorgeous spa.
You start with having like tea, like a little tea ceremony and you're looking out of the gardens.
And then they bring you into the bathroom and it smells fermented. It smells like wet mulch.
but also kind of nice, but kind of gross.
And you get into this, it's like a giant sandbox fits two.
And they've got a little like, it's just filled with this mulch.
And it's like has like a divot carved out for you to just like get it.
So you leave that your tenant brings you in.
I'm like, I'll let you guys get into the bath.
And I have a question.
I see that you already have a question.
Yeah.
Does everyone get, I'm assuming everyone gets fresh mulch.
Like this is not recycled mulch.
So here's the thing.
that I did learn and didn't tell Joel. No.
See, that would be in my head a little bit. It does get, it does get renewed every so often, but not a, apparently there's something about the process that like it's self-cleaning, I guess. Look, look, I did it willingly. But so they, your tenant leaves and ours was a young lady named Annabel who was so soft-spoken and was so excited for us and was like,
like an angel on this earth.
She believes in the power of the mulch.
And so she leaves your, you get, you take off your up, your butt ass naked.
You crawl, you climb together into this big box of mulch.
And you get in and you like cover yourselves enough you hope so that then Annabel can come in and cover you all the way.
And she covers you just your neck is out.
And you're like sitting like you're like in like Chey's lounge style position like head sort of up and relaxed.
She comes in, she makes sure you have a nice little headrest, and then she buries you.
Like, like, how if you, like, the dream of being buried at the beach, like, when you would try to bury yourself in sand, but, like, you can never quite fully get there.
Like, you fully get there. And it's heavy. So it also feels like you're like under like a weighted blanket.
But you're in a mulch pit. And it's like, and it's like, and it's hot.
Wow. Because of your body heat. And also it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like fermenting.
Yeah, yeah. So it's like, so it gets hot, like how compost.
gets hot. It's like because of the like chemical processes happening. And what are the benefits,
Emily? Yeah, yeah. Let's get to that part. All sorts of benefits. It's like circulation.
It exfoliates. It's, um, it like extracts. It's kind of like a mask. You know, it like pulls.
Okay, okay. The toxins. It's supposed to be very good for like sore muscles and your back and like all
these things. But also I was just like seems weird. Like I want to do it. Um, and it really is. And it really is,
it was really, I almost turned to Joe at one point was like, man, I'm really glad we're not claustrophic,
not knowing. And we're not, he's not, but he was like freaking out. Because it's just a really
overwhelming experience. Like you could get yourself out if you needed to. You're not, it's not like so heavy
you can't, but you are buried and you feel the weight. But we also were really laughing because your
attendant comes in like every few minutes, thankfully, because it's a pretty overwhelming
experience. And she'll like give you water and like give you a little cool towel and just like
check in and make sure you're doing okay. She gave us an option at one point to be like, you can
stop now if you want or do you want to keep going. But because you're buried only up to your neck,
this sweet young girl comes in and like brings water up to your mouth with like a little straw.
And the first time we like could not get a grip on the straw. Dole at one point like both of us did.
It's not just a stool. But like, it's spilled water in his mouth. She's like, let me get that for you.
Because you feel so insane. Like infantilized. Yes. It's so strange. And then you get out and you,
you dust yourself off. You get like exfoliated gloves. You just brush all this.
fucking, I mean, you're butt-ass naked. This mulch gets fucking everywhere.
But let me tell you, I felt incredible after. My skin was so soft. I was so like caught. Because it's, it's like being in like a nice warm bath, but it's, but it's dry mulch.
Dant of the earth. And you're in the earth. And like, I don't know. It was, it just was really strange. But I would recommend it if you find yourself having the opportunity to do like a fermenting.
cedar bath.
Like, I would do it again.
I'm interested.
Is that what you Google
fermented cedar bath?
Yeah, I don't know.
I saw, what does it even call?
I just was like Googling spas
and I saw they had that.
It was like a package.
You like go, you do the tea,
you do the bath and then you get a massage afterwards.
And like we,
and then they have like gardens.
You walk around in a little robe
in these garden.
It was like really lovely.
But just strange.
How long are you in the mulch for?
20 minutes.
It's not.
And she comes in every few minutes to check on you.
And at 15 minutes, she was like, it's been 15 minutes.
How are you guys feeling?
Do you want to stop or do you want to, you know, do the last few minutes of the treatment?
Enzyme bath is what it's called.
It's a mixture of soft and fragrant ground cedar and rice bran with living enzymes that stimulate metabolic activity inside and out.
So.
Wow.
Did you feel like you needed to poop afterwards?
No, but I was worried because they did, they start the experience with, um,
a diet, they call it a diuretic tea.
And I was like, so you're giving us a diuretic tea and then you're putting us in a big, and
and I didn't realize this until, again, everything was fine. We were totally fine. But we did also,
it started at 1.30. So we had, we got lunch beforehand. And we were looking at best lunch in the
area. And it turns out the best lunch. And the area was at this taco truck. And so we got
breakfast burritos. And I was like, oh my God, what did we just do? We're going to,
we had breakfast brewers are going to give us a diuretic tea. And then we're going to get in this
fucking mulch bath. We were both completely fine. Um, um,
Do you think any accidents have ever happened in the mulch baths?
I don't want to think about it because the mulch bath is reused.
The cedar enzyme, well, presumably if something happened in there, they would.
The cedar enzyme bath works together with your body's own processes, creating a unique synergy.
Because the heat is generated biologically through fermentation, your body is able to absorb rather than defend against this warmth,
allowing it to permeate your center, charge your core organs, and stimulate healing from within.
Wow, I want to do this.
I'm telling it was like, you know, it's pretty weird, but...
I want to be one with the earth so bad, you guys.
I just said that just mean another way of saying, I want to be dead.
I want to be buried in the earth for eternity.
I just want to go back to the earth.
Until I'm one with it.
So that was scary and unique and enlightening.
Okay, great.
I love, I love, that's news to me.
I didn't know this that existed.
Look up an enzyme bath.
Yeah, that's fine.
to. If you can find it.
Okay. Well,
she takes a big gulp of water
before going into this. My scary thing
is that I'm just going to read to you guys
from something.
Oh, no. Okay. I know
going to be so fun. But
I listened to
an interview with
Ezra Klein and Anon
Giridardis talking
about the Epstein files.
And this is something
that I have been so fixated on, as I know, so many people have. And this interview, while not being
like, perfect, I think that they did do a great job of talking about how power works in this country.
And I just felt inspired by some of the things that a non-geared artist was saying. He's the guy who, like,
10 years ago, got up at Davos and said to all these billionaires, like, you guys are
pieces of shit.
Nice.
I love that.
Anytime anyone wants to do that, I really support it.
Hey, you guys are pieces of shit.
They, like, invited him to talk.
I'm pretty sure it was at Davos.
It might have been an Aspen Institute or one of those places.
But he was invited to speak and he used his platform to be like, he went.
Oh, buddy.
He was like, this is just like a big circle jerk of a bunch of billionaires trying to philanthropy.
is you guys trying to like make yourselves feel better without ever changing the power structures that are the true problems.
And he was not invited back.
But he's written a lot about the elite and how power works.
So I'm just going to just tell you some of the things that he said in this interview, which I thought were very useful.
So this is him.
This is basically just word for word.
He says, I think if I had to think about what I have most learned from the second Trump
term. Most learned about this country and the character of this country and the way this country
functions right now. Perhaps the biggest surprise for me is about the distribution or the lack of
bravery. The country is full of people today and I'm speaking specifically of leaders and elites with
opportunities to form some sort of resistance to the loss of democracy in this country.
Our elite, including some of the people we've talked about today, is full of people whose grandfather's
stormed Normandy and who are lionized in those families. And yet those people,
do not have the bravery as the grandchildren to put out a statement from their law firm. I think it's a
really important part of American self-conception, bravery, courage. And I think we're finding out that it's in
really short supply, that people who actually have the things that you would think would make you
courageous. You know, I think that if I had Harvard's endowment at my back, or if I owned a law firm,
I would be more courageous than the person sitting here right now. But it turns out that's not
what it does for people. It's actually the opposite.
And then you look at these people in Minneapolis, people whose names no one even knows except for the two who were shot.
And people who, after those people were shot, continue to go out again and again and again.
And you look at their courage.
And it's incredible that all of these people in academia, all these people in law firms and corporations, we go out.
We hear these people talk about Donald Trump at parties.
They have the same contempt for him that you and I have, but they don't have any courage.
I think you're right that Epstein exploited that.
but on a smaller and more barbaric scale.
In some ways, it was a dress rehearsal for now.
Someone who's a con artist in the same vein,
someone who's had business dealings and misdealings,
who's been able to hijack the American Republic
because of how timid people with a voice actually ended up being.
It's great that you and I are talking about this right now.
It's great, frankly, that the whole country
and the world are starting to talk about this.
This is a story of a magnitude that comes around rarely,
and that's progress in and of itself.
And all these women who risked everything to tell this story, who ruined their own lives to tell this story, Virginia Joufrey, who we've been quoting, is not with us anymore having committed suicide. But talking about it or being angry about it will not on its own lead to a world that's different from this. This outrage could just be harvested for clickbait. And politicians who, exactly as you say, like Trump, could very much just harvest this anger against the network only to get into power and deepen the hold of these networks.
or this outrage could actually lead to transformative places,
a place where we say we don't have to be run by people who operate in these networks.
Our political parties do not need to be dominated by donors who are at the heart of these networks.
There are so many amazing people in this country,
including some who were exposed to the opportunity to be friends with Jeffrey Epstein
and who said no.
There are so many people outside of these networks outside of this way of thinking.
And again, we turn to people who run our companies,
who run our political organizations,
who happen to have the kind of immorality, the kind of mentality, the mercenary mentality,
the view of other people who don't have power as kind of disposable things to get past on the way to getting your own.
But we have a choice now of who we elevate in so many spheres of American life.
And I hope this story doesn't just become the greatest clickbait of all time and actually becomes a wake-up call.
I just wonder if courage is a value that is suffered in the network age because our ability to be courageous means that we have to break ties.
and the more valuable those ties become,
the more exponentially difficult it becomes to break them.
Blah, blah, blah.
Okay, that's basically, that's like the main thing I wanted to say.
Sorry.
I thought that this was like such a really important point
that needs to be said over and over again
that like this is an opportunity for us to change how things work.
Like this is an opportunity for things to really fucking change.
I feel weirdly optimistic and I kind of have for the past two months.
Like I feel like people are engaged.
and angry and like involved in a way that I feel like really encouraged by.
Yeah.
And just like how obvious like I feel like sort of what you were saying, Hannah,
there's the the wide chasm between the people in charge and like how everyone else feels
and how anyone else would behave.
It's just becoming more and more obvious to all of us.
And I think that that is important to look at who's in charge and be like,
oh, actually like you're all goblins.
You're literal goblins with no actual skills besides being able to disregard your own ethical.
Your big, dumb, selfish, nasty goblins, like all of you.
I know.
I know.
Like, you're hoarding your little bridge trolls.
You're just, like, sitting on your fucking bridge.
I know.
And I think everyone's realizing that now.
And it's just a matter of whether we're going to, like, do something about it, you know?
I don't know what that is.
But I do know there needs to be some big fucking changes.
We need to...
I'm so sorry to bring this up, but...
Happy Year of the Fire Horse, baby.
Oh, yeah, I know.
Wait, you guys, tomorrow...
It's true.
It's true.
Yeah, it's still the Year of the Snake as we...
As we record.
Well, actually, in some areas, it's the Year of the Fire Horse already.
Mm-hmm.
It's time to get up off our asses.
So we should be seeing some big changes pretty soon.
It's things are going to be happening really quick here.
I will say, like, the astrologers have kind of been right.
You know what I mean?
the astrologers were saying, I think the astrologers have 100%
right.
I don't think they've never been wrong.
I don't know or kind of has any place here.
It's pretty remarkable.
It's pretty remarkable.
It's actually 100% truth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I recommend listening to this interview and I don't know.
Just like we're not letting it go.
Yeah.
I'm not fucking letting it go.
It's obviously not the same.
And Martha Stewart isn't a person in extreme power.
But I just keep thinking about and I'm so obsessed with, do you see the post that Martha Stewart did?
Where she, her granddaughter texted her and was like, I actually think it's not at all acceptable to not say anything anymore.
Like you actually have to say something.
And she posted that text and was like, she's right and here's all the things I have to say.
I was like, Martha, fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like, let's listen to people.
They'll think just being like, yeah, you know what?
You're right.
Yeah.
Say something.
Right.
say something. We got to hold these motherfuckers accountable. And silence only benefits them.
Those motherfuckers, I want to fucking tear shit down. Yep. Trolls. Goblins. Goblin trolls.
Goblin, evil goblin trolls. Yeah. So the scary thing is that I am really deep in a hole on all this stuff.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. This in terms of what I'm thinking about. But I'm glad that the conversation is
happening, I guess.
Yeah.
Well, I guess I'll talk about something semi-related then, which is that I don't know if you
saw, but there's a new banger from the Gregory brothers.
Oh, I did see that.
I did not.
Talk about a fucking goblin.
It's the Pam Bondi song about the Dow.
And it is really in my head because the Dow, Dow, Dow right now.
It's almost 15,000.
The DA, the DAO right now.
Be need to know.
How is the DAW?
And it's just very funny to have Pam Bondi words stuck in your head all day long,
but it really is like the Gregory brothers are want to do.
This is next on my, after we are done with this podcast, that's next in my cue of what is happening in my life.
You're just singing it right now made it stuck in my head again.
It's so good.
They really know how to make an earworm.
I know.
I know.
For those of you who don't know, they also did the famous song, It's Corn.
And that one was such a hit that they made a full-length version because this one's still
only at the, you know, 22nd version.
And I'm really hoping that this pushes through to get the full-length treatment because
Wow.
This is really good.
Exciting.
Yeah.
But yeah, again, scary to have Pamp on.
Stuck in my head.
Yeah.
It's also just so sick to me that there are all these women who are being trotted out to defend
this.
I know.
It is.
It's awful.
These women who are out here like stumping for the worst of the worst, like sold their souls
straight to the devil.
Yeah.
It's really sad.
It is sad.
And the Dow thing is crazy, but it is also so funny to just see her just be like,
but the Dow, the Dow, though.
But the Tao, but the Tao.
Yeah, that's a person who is fighting for their life.
Yeah.
Just grasp me anything.
Anything.
Like, do you think she just has like acid reflux all the time?
She's like, have you apologized?
But have you apologized?
Can you even imagine?
Like, I just think that that would send bile up your esophagus.
Like, like with that, it wouldn't even be, even if she doesn't find what she's doing
more repugnant, like your body would, I think.
Yeah, it would have to reject it.
It comes out somewhere, like, you know.
I'm pretty sure that, like, inside, if you looked inside Pambondi's, like, body, you would just find, like, dark, cavernous caves.
Like, just, like, yeah, just like the catacombs.
You just find the catacombs if you look inside.
It's like smeeagles in there being like, smeecles.
Goblins and trolls.
Yeah, those and trolls.
She's filled with goblins and trolls.
Just inside the catacombs.
I'm pretty sure medically speaking, that's what you would find inside your body.
Okay, well, shall we transition to some lighter fare, some cosmic horror?
Of course. Of course.
Please.
This week, we are going to be talking about a movie called The Void.
Came out in 2016, written and directed by Jeremy Julespie and Stephen Kostanski,
starring Aaron Poole, Kathleen Monroe, Daniel Fathers,
Mick Biscoff, Ellen Wong, and Kenneth Welsh, and it is streaming on Prime Video.
Have you guys heard anything about this movie?
Not a thing.
Not a thing.
It's been requested a few times.
It's on our little request sheet.
And I'd seen the poster for a while ago.
And this is a great poster, memorable poster.
There's like a glowing triangle with a silhouetted man and, like, tentacles coming out of it.
So it had been on my radar for a while.
I was like, I want to watch this Tenticle Man movie.
Sure, sure.
And we've done some cosmic horror in the past.
I wrote down a few that we've covered just to get us in the headspace.
What was the Nicholas Cage one where they all merge?
Color Out of Space, that one.
So HP Lovecraft is kind of credited as creating or like,
popularizing cosmic horror.
He was inspired by a few other people beforehand,
but he kind of brought it into the mainstream, I think.
And some movies that we've covered that are cosmic horror examples are event horizon,
annihilation, the empty man, sunshine, the thing,
Hellraiser, color out of space, Prince of Darkness,
that we did with Jemel Bowie and in the mouth of madness,
the third in that trilogy is also listed.
And I'm like, we've got to get Jamel back to do that.
Because I really like, I really like cosmic horror.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What differentiates like cosmic horror from just like aliens?
So I looked this up because I feel like I have like an intuitive understanding of cosmic horror.
But I was like, what is actually the difference?
And the internet told me.
Cosmic horror is a subgenre emphasizing the fear of the unknown, existential dread, and human insignificance against vast, incomprehensible and indifferent cosmic entities.
Got it.
Got it.
It focuses on psychological terror, forbidden knowledge, and the fragility of sanity when faced with truths that defy human understanding.
The fragility of sanity.
Whoa.
And that's coming from the internet.
Whereas I feel like it's like
specific alien movies
are more like monster movies
in terms of genre.
They're like adventure monster movies.
And then cosmic horror is more like
the universe
being a place of
terror.
Yeah. And I think
the unknowable side of it
or like things that are beyond understanding is like a big what that does to a part of it yeah
where it's just like yeah i find that very scary no i would also claim the thing is also a monster
yes there's for sure like crossover and in like there's sci-fi and some of these movies and uh
yeah it can be it can be a bit of both but um oof these see you know these are you know these are
some of the toughest
toughest ones for
for me.
Yeah. Event Horizon
was like really
we should revisit event horizon.
I think Event Horizon might be no we should not.
My favorite
out of the ones that we've
covered just in terms of
like I think it
achieves that
goal the best out of all of them
although I mean
they're all really good. Don't get me wrong.
Obviously I love Hellraiser.
And we got to hear the void.
We got it.
Well, and we will.
We will.
We're going to. Okay.
Great.
And it starts right now.
Just kidding.
First, I have to tell you that it has a 78% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 62% on Metacritic, and a 5.9 on IMDB.
The budget, I really liked this on Wikipedia.
It says the budget was greater than $82,510.
Greater than?
More than that.
Could be anything.
anywhere above that.
Dwell on that.
Numbers are infinite.
It's trying to give you a little dose of existential drive.
Just a preview little taste.
And it made $377,624.
Love it.
No more, no left.
Exactly right on the dot.
But the reason the budget, I think, is presented that way
is because they crowdfunded the budget for the creature effects.
and then they got some additional funding
that I guess just wasn't reported anywhere
so we don't know how much that was.
Got it, got it.
There is almost no CGI in this movie.
The directors seem from poking around on their IMDB pages.
They seem like kind of special effects, makeup art department guys.
That's cool.
One of them or both of them worked in the art department of,
of both movies and Welcome to Derry.
And they definitely have taken inspiration from some of the movies we've talked about Event
Horizon, the thing, they're big John Carpenter fans.
I guess they were working on something with Guillermo del Toro that was like,
that never came to be.
That was Guillermo del Toro's cosmic horror movie.
that now I'm like, well, why didn't that happen? Why didn't that happen? Why come no?
He's been busy making a lot of things for Netflix that no one watched. Yeah. The 12 episode Cabinet of
Curiosity show that I worked on that I'm pretty sure no one's ever heard of. I watched, I watched two,
I think, two of the 12. Nobody watched all 12. Zero people watched all 12. I didn't even watch the
Jennifer Kent one, which is the whole reason I was there in the first place. And I didn't. Oh, right. It was
pretty boring. Sorry. Yeah. I'm not.
Loving what he's doing lately personally.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's all the trivia I have for this.
And I think we should watch the trailer before.
Just, I don't know.
Get the vibes.
Yeah, show me that.
It's kind of what you're probably expecting of like,
Ma.
That's exactly.
So I don't know if you can really spoil, like,
things that our human brains can't comprehend, you know?
Well, how could it?
Even if I see it, I can't comprehend it.
Exactly.
It's like, it'll be like I've never seen it before my life.
So let's take a look.
Perfect.
Okay.
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For me.
Won't get far.
How'd you find this guy?
Copy of code 3 and I need a cyst.
This place is.
Remarkable.
It did killings and sacrifices.
And people change.
Nothing else matter.
Statistically, you're more likely to die in a hospital than anywhere else.
Vicious, twisted, indescribably horrific.
I did think it was funny to end it with that quote.
Statistically, you're more likely to die in a hospital than anywhere else.
It's like, well, yeah, that's all of sense.
That's kind of like a anticlimactic quote to end on when the rest of the trailer was like so intense.
Yikes.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, it's very gross and squelchy.
Squelchy.
and dark.
Like physically dark.
Yeah.
Truly sometimes you're like,
what is happening in here?
Sometimes there's like strobe lights so you're extra like.
Well, now I'm blind.
That's happening.
But yeah, it's 90 minutes.
It felt like two and a half hours to me in a way that like maybe I went to
the void.
Like maybe I was in a different.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
because I was just like...
You're like tense the whole time.
Locked in.
And I wasn't necessarily...
I mean, we'll talk more at the end.
Like, I wasn't like scared, but it is like...
Like, things don't make sense in it necessarily.
On purpose or...
Well, I think.
But I do think things could have made a little bit more sense.
But we'll get to...
We'll get to that at the end.
Okay.
Yeah, I think.
it's using the like things are beyond our human mind comprehension as a little bit. I actually
don't even know what this movie is. Right. I'm not supposed to. A little bit of a cop out there.
But yeah. But okay, let's do it. Let's do it. We begin with a, we're at like a house cabin almost in the middle of the woods. And a man and a woman
run outside the front door screaming.
We see a painted triangle on the front door.
Man is first out.
He makes it to the tree line into the woods,
like kind of disappears into the woods.
The woman's close behind,
but then two men come out of the house,
shoot her in the back.
She falls.
She's not dead,
but they walk up to her,
cover her in gasoline and light her on fire.
Oh, that was in the trailer.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Didn't like that.
Did not like that.
Did not like that.
One little bit.
Yeah, it's not good.
And then it cuts to black and then we get a flash of someone in white hooded robes with a triangle, black triangle on the face.
Kind of squid gamey.
Squid game meets Ku Klux Klan.
Yeah, Ku Klux Klan.
Meets almost like beekeeper.
Leftover.
Yeah, yeah.
But we just get a flash of that.
We don't know what that's about yet.
And we may never.
Because you're not supposed to.
Because you're not supposed to.
You couldn't possibly.
No one could.
If someone could, we would have made it clear, obviously.
But nobody can.
Not even us.
Then we see it's the same night in a kind of
empty road in the middle of the woods.
We see a cop in his car, like pulled over to the side of the road on patrol, but kind of
doing the least, just kind of like got his feet up on the dash, looks pretty bored.
He's calling in to the station.
His shift is like almost over.
And he's about to be like, all right, I'm heading back in when the man we saw from the open
stumbles out into the road and collapses. At first, the cop just thinks this is a drunk guy. It's like,
I've got some drunk here that I, give me a second. I need to talk to him. Walks up to him and
flips him over. We see this man is like very bloodied. Something obviously very bad has happened to him.
He collapses. He's unconscious now. So this.
The cop's name is Danny.
This is our protagonist.
Danny and Daniel.
Danny short for Daniel.
They go back and forth with what they call him a lot.
Got it.
Just so you know.
And he's back on the walkie with the person at the station is like, something's wrong.
This guy need to get this guy to a hospital.
There's something's happened.
What should I do?
And the woman on the other end of the line says like,
Well, the closest hospital is this hospital.
I actually don't remember the name of the hospital.
But they just had that fire there recently.
So they're like skeleton crew.
They're like not fully staffed right now.
But the next closest hospital is like an additional 45 minute drive.
And so he's like, I got to go to the closer one.
Tell him I'm coming.
Do we know where this is set?
No.
Nobody does.
Nobody does.
You couldn't.
There's no way to know.
Unknowable.
A middle of nowhere seems.
I will say that like straight from the beginning, it did, yes, have the feeling of maybe
they're all already dead.
Like it's so empty and dark and like nondescript.
Which, yeah, I do think intentionally gives you like nothing really to grasp onto.
It feels like very empty.
Like who's even.
this town.
So he gets to the hospital, two nurses rush out to help him carry this guy in and get him on.
This hospital has two nurses.
Two nurses.
So how bare bones can be?
More than one.
Yeah, that's pretty much all you need.
And they get the guy on a stretcher and they're, you know, rolling him back into the, you know, through the little.
Floppy doors
Flappy doors
Bar doors
Surgery
They take a loom doors in the hospital
They take them in
Danny's all flustered
This has been
Crazy and unexpected
He goes to sit in the waiting room
And in the waiting room
There's a young pregnant girl
And her grandfather
This is Maggie and Ben
I think there's too many characters
in this movie
I'll just say it right now. I didn't need them all. Okay. For a place that's empty. Yeah. So every single
person you see is a character. Every single person in the town is in this hospital and there's like nine of them.
Got it. And nobody else in the whole world, I think. And they know each other. So we're, you know,
this super, super small town. Everybody knows each other. We cut to another hospital room in there where there's a guy in a
bed and another nurse sitting next to him, but then through their conversation, we find out
she's an intern.
She's not, I don't know, graduated yet.
I have a lot of questions about her because it seems like she knows, like, actually nothing.
Okay.
We'll get to some of that later.
How did this girl get here?
And she's reading through a medical textbook and showing him photos.
And she's like, look at this.
This is called de-gloving, like so gnarly.
Oh, God.
We're like, oh, I wonder if that's going to come back to a little bit.
Is there going to be a check-checoves de-gloving situation?
Really?
I know.
Just planting the little seed.
And then back in the waiting room, Danny hears screaming, a man screaming, and runs back, finds the guy that he has brought in,
has, like, regained consciousness and is trying to fling.
Lee. He's like panicked. The doctor comes in, Dr. Powell. And these two nurses in here are Beverly
and Allison. And Dr. Powell sedates this guy, his name's James. Okay. Dr. Powell sedates James while
Allison and Beverly help restrain and Maggie's in the waiting room with Ben.
Daniel, aka Danny. Ben, the Grand Prix. Ben, the Grandfell.
father. Correct. And so they sedate him and they handcuff him to the to the bed. Okay. And then Danny goes
into an office. He's cleaning blood off of himself because as he was carrying James in, James was
bleeding. And so he's got some of James's blood on him and he's like cleaning himself up in an office.
when Allison comes in and brings him a cup of coffee.
And through their conversation, we find out that they are recently divorced.
Oh, brother.
Tiny town, huh?
Tiny town.
But they're being friendly.
I mean, it seems like there's a sadness between them, but not like an anger.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And she gives him the coffee.
He, like, makes a joke about how.
that's his coffee mug that he forgot to pack.
And so she's like, you take it.
And he's like, oh, you're being pretty nice.
So they're trying to be, they're trying to be nice to each other.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And she goes back out to check on James or whatever.
And Dr. Powell comes in and talks to Danny and says, you should be gentle with Allison.
She's still coming to terms with what happened.
Like, you know that losing a child is the worst thing that could have.
ever happened. I knew it. I knew it. I was like, that's exactly where we're going.
I'm going to tell you, Henley, I don't, I don't buy it in this movie. I think it's unnecessary
and it doesn't, it doesn't really add. I don't feel it for these characters. I feel like they
don't really sell it. And it feels kind of shoehorned in here as like, hmm, what's a dark
backstory? Right. Right. And what's a quick way to add emotional stakes for women?
I don't think it. I don't think it needed it. I'm pretty sick.
of it, I got to say of how often it's used just as like a shoehorn to make you feel something
about a character. It's constant. It's like, how do we make the audience feel sadness or
sympathy for a woman? I know she'll have lost a child. She'll have lost a child. Or she's been
raped. Or she's been raped. Those are the only two ways we could ever like be able to feel anything about
a woman, you know?
Yeah.
Or she has a child through rape.
Rape.
There you go.
There we go.
And then the child dies.
Right.
Let's just get a little more creative, folks.
I feel like other bad things happen.
A lot of bad shit can happen to women in other ways.
I know.
It's true.
We contain multitudes.
We contain multitudes.
That doesn't remind me.
I went for a walk alone the other day through the hills by my house.
Brave.
Talk about brave.
brave, brave, brave, brave.
And there's like a staircase I can take.
Joel and I take in her walks together.
And I don't like love to find myself alone on a staircase if I don't have to.
So I was debating.
I was like, am I going to go with a route that takes the staircase?
I don't know.
I don't know.
There could be like a man there and that's really scary.
And as I'm like alone in, and again, on like a residential street, it wasn't like a little
there.
But like up in the hills, I'm worrying about a strange man.
I look up in a coyotes in the middle of the road.
And I was like, right.
Also that. Also be aware of nature. Nature, animals. The coyote was fine. And I did take the stare well and there were no man in any way. I'm just saying there's women can be scared of anything. I can also be a coyote. We're upset about anything. Speaking of, there was a fucking massive raccoon outside of my house the other night, which reminded me that when we went out to dinner. I would rather walk into a coyote. These raccoons out here are getting so big. And also they don't have any boundaries. They have no boundaries. They're like.
They're like, I'm going to come into your house and live with you.
How big?
How big are they?
Really big.
I thought it was, I thought it was a coyote.
And they're truly quite large.
You know, they also, didn't raccoons also evolve to be like cuter?
Aren't they getting cuter and their hands are getting more agile?
Do we need to be more worried about raccoons?
I mean, honestly, raccoons really carry like rabies and stuff and they're gross.
And I don't, I don't like raccoons.
Sorry, I don't like raccoons.
A lot of people think raccoons are really cute.
I find them to be upsetting.
You prefer possums.
I much prefer possums.
Right, right.
Possums is kind of a crazy take.
We've been through this.
I know.
Unless it always comes back to this.
And skunks would be higher if they weren't such a stink risk, you know?
I know.
You've always got to be a little bit worried about a skunk.
I am seeing more and more coyotes lately, which is not great to be seeing in the city.
But I will say they also look healthier than I've ever seen L.A.
I mean, they're so huge.
They're obviously eating well.
The coyotes are huge?
Oh, the coyotes.
Sorry.
No, the coyotes.
But the raccoons.
Sorry.
She's got raccoons with the brain.
The raccoons might be eating all the coyotes food.
Maybe.
But no, but the coyotes look well fed.
Okay.
Maybe there's just enough to go around.
Everything's perfect.
Do you think the raccoons?
Do you think that they, like, go home and, like, knit?
Do you think that they're doing, like, things with their hands?
They're doing that thing with a coin where they pass the coin down.
Yeah.
I'm not kidding.
Like, their hands are so agile and down.
All the raccoons are just sitting in a little circle.
I just got her hands strength.
Coins off the street to go.
They're doing the little thing where you're like, you put your fingers upside out.
Church is a steeple.
You're heading around.
See all the people.
Obviously, and I know it.
I can obviously do it.
I just like, what are they doing with those hands?
You know, why do they, their hands need?
I don't know.
Their hands are freaky.
Raccoons are freaky.
Their hands can do too much.
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So Dr. Powell brings up their child that they've lost and he says, you know when I lost Sarah, it changed me.
And so we've got like six characters in here.
three of them have lost a child.
Well, to be fair,
I mean two of them lost the same child.
That's true.
That's true.
But I was a little bit like, whoa, we're really going hard on the child loss thing.
Well, Sarah, maybe Sarah was somebody else, an adult.
She's not.
Oh, okay.
It's his child.
Got it.
So, okay, so we're having this moment of yes, okay, yeah.
We'll all be gentle with each other because we've suffered losses.
And we're certainly not going to suffer anymore.
No, and that's probably as bad as it gets.
So now Danny's walking down the hospital halls to go check on James again when he passes a room and he sees Beverly with the other guy that his name is Cliff, I think, doesn't matter.
But he was the guy that intern Kim was talking to in his hospital bed about the de-gloving.
and Danny sees Beverly like standing over Cliff
kind of motionless in a weird way
and he peeks his head in as like Beverly
is everything okay she doesn't really move
he's trying to see around her
to like get a look at her face or Cliff's face
and sees that she is stabbing Cliff in the eye
Oh, no. Cliff is dead. And Danny is like panicking, obviously. Well, not panicking.
Does he go in there or does he back away slowly? He's just like, oh my God, Beverly, what the hell is happening?
And it's like in a reasonable amount. Not a full-blown panic. Not a full-blown panic.
Sammy, let's stick to the facts. If you could just really stick to the facts and not over-dramatize this.
All dramatic, okay?
Let's not get hysterical here, okay?
Was he panicking or not?
It's a mild panic.
It's a controlled panic.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's the kind of description we're looking for.
She turns around and we see that she has, I think it's a scalpel is what she had
stabbed him with.
And she has also been using it to cut off her own face.
And she turns to Danny and kind of pleadingly is like, this isn't my face.
Can you help me?
This isn't my face.
And she's like peeling off pieces of her skin.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And he's trying to calm her down.
He's like, is he panicking yet?
He's pretty close.
We're pretty close to a panic.
He's like, that's the only face you get, my love.
We can't go to the face store and get you a new one.
This is it.
And she's coming closer to him and.
kind of begging him. She's like, please help me. This isn't my face. Please help me. But she's also
wielding the scalpel. Like, she's going to stab him with it. And she's coming closer. And he's like,
Beverly, stop. And you just stop right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. Stop my face.
Help me. And he shoots her and kills her. Okay. One down. One down from the tiny town.
Yeah. Then Allison and Dr. Powell run in. Obviously, they've fired a gunshot and see what
What's happened in the room? Cliff dead, Beverly dead, Danny, now panicking, freaking out.
Okay, here we go.
And he's trying to explain what happened, but can't find his words.
Because he's panicking.
He's panicking.
He runs to the bathroom.
And he's trying to like wash, because her blood is like sprayed on him now.
So he's like washing.
This man's getting so much blood, so much other people's blood on him today.
And he's like washing it off.
And as he looks at himself in the mirror, he has a moment of like a vision of dark clouds and a very like empty mountain landscape.
It reminds me of the part in the matrix where it's like the world, the scorched world.
Okay.
And then there's also like a couple images of just like blood and tissue and muscle and.
and just nasty stuff, and then he passes out.
When he comes to Allison and Dr. Powell are leaning over him, helping him.
They tell him to take it slow.
It seems like you might have had a seizure.
He's like, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine.
He's trying to get up.
They're saying that a state trooper just got here.
Because he had called in James, and so he was expected.
someone to come, but he was, he's also like, oh, you got here really fast. And this state trooper,
his name's Mitchell. Okay, thank you. Mitchell says, well, there's a crime scene right near here.
It's an absolute blood bath. And this is the cap in that we saw in the opening scene that he's
referring to. A woman was burned alive and other horrors have occurred there. We're not going to get
into that right now. Yes. So he's like, okay, we need to call this in. We need like,
more backup.
They go to the office.
Phone's not working.
Go to another, like, the front desk.
The phone's not working.
And we're not dealing with what just happened with Beverly.
Oh, also, is it the 80s?
Did you say that?
Because it said, like, in the trailer, it said...
I don't think it's the 80s,
but I think it's in the vein of, like,
event horizon and the thing.
And so it's, like, associated with horror movies of that time.
But I'm pretty sure it's...
Like, do they have cell phones?
I guess not.
It is a little unanchored in time.
Well, they're all dead.
Maybe.
Or, yeah, they might all be dead already.
So, Danny says I need to go out to my car, try the walkie in there.
And he goes outside.
His car is parked right in front of the hospital.
His patrol car goes in.
He's trying to press him in a little button, not working.
no signal.
He's about to go back inside when he sees a guy in white robes with a black triangle on the face
that at first he's like, hello, who are you?
What's your deal?
Can't be anything good.
Yeah, this guy does not respond.
And then there's like a power surge, so it gets really bright for a second.
and then the power goes out and right in that moment as it distracts Danny as he's like looking
back towards the hospital like what the fuck is going on this guy charges him this guy's got a big
old knife like a scream knife hunting knife type thing and he is on top of Danny and doing the
classic like trying to press the knife down into him Danny's pushing it up and just like really
slowly because of how Danny's pressing against him, but it is stabbing into him.
He's like getting stabbed in the chest, but just so slowly.
Oh, my God.
And then is eventually able to like push the guy off and he runs back into the hospital.
They lock the doors.
And we see many more robed figures emerge from the woods and just kind of circle around
the hospital.
Ew.
They're not trying to get in.
The crime scene in the beginning, the guy who lit them on fire.
They weren't dressed in robes.
No.
Right?
Okay.
Mm.
All right.
So Danny is now losing some blood.
He's collapsed onto the floor of the, you know, entrance waiting room area of the hospital.
They're trying to put pressure on the wound.
And this is where they start calling in Kim, the intern.
And she seems like completely incapable of doing anything.
They're like, keep pressure.
on it and she's like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, which I get it. It is, it would be scary,
obviously, but that seems like kind of the most basic thing that you could do in a hospital is like
keep pressure on the wound. This will begin a series of Kim's incompetence, seemingly complete
lack of knowledge of any medical information. Got it. I just thought you kind of became an intern
after some amount of learning.
It's not like she's interning at like a video production.
Right.
It's like.
But even like the applying pressure, I feel like I could do that.
I haven't even learned a single thing, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
So where did this woman come from?
The void?
Yeah.
She comes straight from the void.
No, I'm just giving her shit.
There's not really any, there's no sinister reason behind it.
She's just frustratingly unhelpful.
Well, so those are, yeah, those are the options for women.
You either lose your child.
Right, right.
You die immediately or you're bad at your job.
Or you're just bad at your job and frustratingly unhelpful.
Well, and nurses are women and doctors are men.
Right.
I'm so glad that they cleared that off in this film.
So, Danny is having more of those visions of the rolling dark clouds and some, like, space nebulae, nebulaebula.
With E at the end, though.
Nebula.
Nebula.
Nebula.
And as he kind of comes back to,
there's, again, telling him, take it slow, take it slow.
We've stopped the bleeding for now, but you should take it slow.
He's like, I'm fine.
Charges gets up.
We're hearing screaming coming from James's room now, where he is handcuffed to the bed.
We run in there.
Beverly is a full huge tentacle monster.
What?
I wasn't expecting that.
It's crazy.
How do we know it's Beverly?
Yeah.
She has her face.
Her like peeled off face part is still visible.
Is she big?
Bigger than she was?
She's bigger than she was.
Okay.
She bigger than she was?
I'm trying to get a visual.
on her. She's bigger than before. Trying to get a visual on Bev.
Yeah. She as big as she could be? She fits in the room. She fits through the door. She can go through the door. I don't know if she'd fit through the door. Does she have legs and arms or just tentacles? Hard to say. There's probably some legs and arms in there, but she seems to be moving around mainly with the tentacles. Got it. The legs and arms have become obsolete based on the size of the rest of her. What color are we talking here?
you know, brown and brown and bloody.
Okay. Brown.
Ugh.
Wow.
Again, it's all practical effects, which is awesome.
They did an amazing job, but it is also like strategically dark and shadowy and like obscured by other pieces of furniture or whatever.
So it is hard to wrap your head around what you're looking at.
And also, even if you could see it, your brain wouldn't be able to wrap around around it.
Yeah.
It's mostly obscured by our own inability to see or understand what's in front of us.
Is she talking?
I don't think so.
Okay.
I think she's making monster sounds.
She's just making gurgly octopus noises.
Yeah.
So the state trooper and Danny run in, guns drawn, they're shooting at Beverly.
It's not doing anything.
Shot her before.
Yeah.
She's not of this world.
and we do have, we do see in their faces that they are seeing something that their brains can't make sense of.
Right.
Which would be really crazy.
Imagine just going into another room and there was all of a sudden a huge tentacle monster in there.
That would be really tough.
Yeah.
It would be a lot at once to try to deal with.
Even if you're primed with like all these other kind of stressful out of the ordinary crazy events that have had.
You just don't expect to see a thing that you didn't even know could exist. Yeah. Yeah. There's really no preparing you for that. Especially when it's a person who you used to know, who was alive as a human being, mere moments before and is now. Bigger than she was. You thought was dead, but now is bigger than she was. That's kind of the craziest thing about the situation. I thought you were dead. How did you get bigger? Now you're bigger than you were before. That's not how matter works.
So they, I realize them shooting is doing nothing.
James is, of course, like screaming, help me.
He's cuffed to the bed.
He's trying to get away from her.
Danny comes up and is able to, like, kick the...
And she's like, she's like attacking them or wanting to.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Danny's able to free James and they all just run out of the room again.
She kind of seems like she's not going to fit through the door.
And they run back into the, to the main area of the hospital.
and right at that moment through the front door
come the two guys from the opening scene.
Oh, shit.
I was, while watching this, pretty much the whole time,
I was like, who are these guys?
What's their deal?
Right.
Yeah, because they're not part of the cults.
No.
They're just violent murderers.
Well,
we don't know that.
They're like somewhere in the middle.
I think that they have,
I think what has happened is they have been exposed to the insanity of the creatures.
And so they're just like...
...becoming...
...living in a different reality.
Yeah.
They're just like, everyone is a threat and we can't trust anybody.
So we must kill everyone that we come upon.
Yeah.
And I think that their father and son, but I don't know that they ever say it.
And I feel like, again, this is part of the things where it's like it feels like...
It feels underwritten, but it also, I'm sure they're like, it's intentional.
It's vague.
It's vague.
So that you're, like, confused and don't know what's happening and, like, feel uneasy about.
The incoherence is on purpose.
Right.
Is there still a pregnant lady in the wedding room?
Mm-hmm.
Is she pregnant like she's there to give birth or she just happens to be pregnant?
She's, like, real close.
And she's there because she's feeling.
pain. And so it's not, that's not good. Now, that's another thing that can happen to women. Yeah, wow,
this is really not where you want to be when you're about to give birth. This is another thing that can
happen. Right. I'm really glad they included it, though, because most people don't know this about
women, but they do have, they do give birth. Yeah. Well, and they can have pregnancy trauma. Yeah,
yeah. So these two guys bust in, guns drawn, they want James. They see James. This is the guy that got away
from them in the opening scene.
Got it.
And they're like, give us him.
Like, we're going to kill this guy.
Of course, everybody else is trying to like defuse the situation.
Calm down, come down, everybody.
Get back.
Get back.
Get back.
It really intense.
And in the, like, commotion of it all,
James grabs pregnant lady,
grabs a scalpel from somewhere.
It's a hospital.
Got it.
He's bad.
I think.
he's just panicked.
And he's like, they're trying to kill me.
So uses this pregnant lady as kind of a shield.
Yeah.
I mean, I'd call it bad.
You know, sometimes you got to do what you got to do.
He's back into a corner.
What else are you going to do?
And he's like holding a scalp bladder throat, like telling them to get back.
Danny's trying, like putting himself in between everyone.
like he's telling everybody to calm down
and then Dr. Powell is approaching James like trying to
he's like give me the scalpel like son you like don't
and as he gets close close to James James
James scalples him right in the neck
stabs him like through the neck he's
James spray in blood
Dr. Powell collapses dies
Oh my goodness oh okay
Maggie starts going into labor
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tenticle, Bev has made her way out of the room.
Oh, God, she could.
She sped through the door.
Oh, God.
She squished sideways or something.
I mean, how could we be so foolish?
We've all seen how good oxypus are at.
Squat, so there's squicking in rooms,
squishing in small places.
You mean, you ever seen a cat get in a little tight space?
I mean, I imagine that was a real missed opportunity.
for them to have some good physical comedy though
in the background this whole time Bev's been trying to get
out of the room in the background like
trying to squeeze through
Oh yeah yeah
Like when a little rat got his butt stuck in the sewer
And he's trying to squeeze it
Squeeze a little button
Yeah a real missed opportunity
Apparently these directors did do a lot of comedies before this
So I wonder if that's a deleted scene maybe somewhere
Oh my gosh nice nice
Nice
Beb
grabs the state trooper with her tentacles and drags him off screen into another room.
He's screaming.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Danny grabs like an emergency axe, like breaks the glass, grabs the axe.
He's following.
He's going to go save Mitchell.
But he gets into the, like, hallway place where he's, where Beverly has him.
And these tentacles are going just absolutely everywhere.
through Mitchell's eyes, nose, mouth, just like his chest.
And, yeah, Mitchell's done.
Yeah.
Yikes.
And I think Danny still does, like, chop off some of the tentacles.
And he's, like, trying to axe her head area thinking, like, this is probably where you can
kill her.
It's not.
It's not killing her.
So he eventually is like, all right, I'll just go back.
It's like I did my best.
I have done what I could do here.
And like still seems like there's a lot of bad stuff happening.
Do you just leave the two guys and James and the ladies giving birth?
There's no doctors around?
Well, the doctor's dead.
I know.
Where's his divorced wife?
Allison.
She's in the waiting room.
Everybody else is in the waiting room.
And they're kind of, it's very chaotic.
They're kind of uniting in.
just the chaos of it all. They're like, okay, we just need to like get to a place that we can
defend, like a smaller space than this where there's less entrances and exits. So they're like,
we need to get to the office. And they've got like some weapons. The father and son have guns.
He's got an axe. Are the father and son on their side now? Are they working together?
They are kind of, but they're not, they're not happy about it. They're not like, okay, great, we're all
one happy family now, but it's just kind of in the panic of the moment.
They're like, all right, there's a month.
There's an actual monster.
We've got to get the octopus and then we'll deal with the other elephant.
But, you know, temporary truce.
So they all get in the office and Allison is realizing that she's going to need a lot of medical supplies because we're going to have to deliver a baby in here.
Maggie is like screaming in pain.
And she, I can't remember how she realizes this, but she realizes she's going to need a C-section.
Oh, God.
And so she's like, I got to go out to the medical supply closet.
Danny's like, you can't do that.
It's not safe out there.
Like, let me go.
And then for some reason, they're like, I need, they need more weapons from Danny's car.
Danny has another shotgun in his car.
And so they're like, let us just like go get extra weapons.
And then we'll come back and then we'll take you to the medical closet.
Just stay here.
And he convinces the father and son to go with him.
Because there's still all the like robed people.
Oh, right.
They're there too.
The hospital.
Yikes.
And so they agree.
on the condition that once they get the gun, it's theirs. They're like, we're not doing this for you,
but we'll help you go get it, and then it's ours. And he's like, fine, just need more weapons.
And he says, don't worry, I parked right outside. Like, we'll just go run, grab it, come right back.
They're like, great. So they go, walk outside. The robed guys have moved further back. So they're
like against the tree line. And as they exit the hospital, the car and the parking,
lot have gotten like so much bigger and the car is extremely far away and danny's like what the what the
fuck and they're like I thought you said it was close and I really like that type of stuff oh that's would be
so scary yeah yeah yeah so now the car is really far away but they run to it and the
cloaked guys are all just like standing still all holding knives in their hands
Like they're just like waiting for something.
The situation is escalating inside.
Maggie is like kind of going in and out of consciousness.
And they're like, we're running out of time.
So Allison decides she's going to go to the medical closet before they get back.
She's like, I need to, I just need to go grab this stuff.
We don't have time for this.
So she goes out into the hallway while the,
the triangle cloak guys
descend upon our three guys in the cop car
tense moment of them trying to unlock the shotgun
and it's not unlocking
these guys are getting closer
they get it they shoot one of the guys
the rest of the cloaked guys kind of back off a little bit
so that they're able to get back inside
with the gun
okay
we see Allison in the medical supply room
She's like looking through shelves and looking for what she needs.
And then there's a jump scare.
Dr. Powell is behind her.
Oh, no.
Oh, is he a squid?
No, but he's alive.
And they definitely saw him die.
Yeah.
So the guys come back in.
They get back to the office where everybody is.
Allison's gone.
They said she went to get the medical supplies.
they're trying to find her
calling out to her
they go to the medical supply room
nobody's there
and then the phone rings
in Dr. Powell's office
so the phones are working
are all looking pretty confused
and suspicious
Danny goes in and answers it
we hear Dr. Powell's voice
which is a very good like
deep scary voice
and he's saying something like,
when I lost Sarah, I lost myself,
and I had to go looking for answers.
And he's like yelling at her like,
where's Allison?
What's happening?
And he sees this like box of Polaroids on Dr. Powell's office desk
that are just the most grotesque images of like torsos
and like skinned body.
and you can't even like really tell what you're looking at but it's it's bad and obviously
Dr. Powell is is uh the main source of whatever is happening here okay so he's like a sadist is he's he
the cult leader he's a he's a cult leader okay he says when you collapsed i know you saw it too
you saw what i saw like referring to the images that danny
saw when he passed out and he says, don't worry, Allison is down here with me.
We look also on the phone and it says that the call is coming from the morgue.
And Danny's yelling like, what are you doing with her?
I give her back to me.
And he says, don't worry, Daniel, I'm going to help her.
Don't like the sound of that.
No.
He runs out to the father and son and he's like, what the fuck is?
going on here like something like somebody knows something and they're like james knows something james was
at the place where all those fucking freaks were or whatever it's hard to tell what's going on but
intentionally so and so they they grab james and they're interrogating him and james says it's the doctor
the doctor is the leader and i killed him i killed him for you and they're like well he's not dead anymore
says, I met a girl. I was trying to score some drugs. She took me back to this house, said there were
drugs there, but there were no drugs there. They, like, tied us up. They made us have sex with each other.
They made us watch as he, like, killed people. It was like a fucking nightmare. And he does, like,
seem like he's on drugs. And so that's, like, maybe why he seems, like, unreliable at first. And now we're
like, oh, this guy's been through some fucking shit.
He's traumatized.
Yeah.
Kim, intern Kim is now in charge of Maggie because Allison is gone.
Beverly is gone.
And we're like, you're going to have to perform a C-section.
She couldn't even put pressure on a wound.
No.
So obviously she is losing her shit and just saying, I can't, I can't, I can't.
Which like, I agree.
I agree that you can't based on what I've seen so far.
No.
Oh, and then something else James says to them is he made people change.
I saw him change people.
Seems like is he, like, drugged out and speaking gibberish?
It's hard to say.
So James and the girl that was lit on fire had been kept in the house by the cult.
And then the father and son are just random people who came in.
I believe so.
like had someone in the house.
I like knew someone in the house.
I don't know.
But yeah.
Something like that.
Okay.
They grabbed James.
Now we've got the four guys, Danny, father, son and James.
And they're like, all right, well, we're going to go visit your friend, Dr. Powell, in the basement.
He's, you know, in the morgue.
We're going down there.
We're going to go confront him.
And James is, of course, like, screaming.
No, no, no, no, no.
Like anything but that.
They give Kim a walkie-talkie so that they can talk to each other.
So Kim and Maggie and Ben are in the office, barricaded in there,
while the rest of them go down to the basement.
Danny's saying, like, I'll need you to, like, tell me where to go.
Like, I've never been down there before so you can direct me kind of thing.
So she's on the walkie with him.
She's like, okay, go down the stairs.
He's like, okay, we're down the stairs.
And it's like so nasty down there in a way that already feels like otherworldly.
It's like we just went into the stranger things world.
The upside down.
The upside down.
And it's really dark and nasty.
And they got a couple of flashlights and their guns drawn.
But it's hard to tell where anything is.
And then there's another staircase.
and Danny says to Kim, is there, is it the next floor down?
And she's like, what are you talking about?
There's not another floor.
It should just be one staircase.
He's like, there's another staircase here.
And then the walkie-talkie's all like breaking up and they can't hear each other anymore.
So they go down the second staircase.
Descending to hell.
And cut to Allison waking up in the morgue.
She's on a, you know, the little like metal bed thing that people are on an autopsy table.
Thank you.
And Dr. Powell is like prepping something in the corner.
Scott is back to her and her eyes are darting around.
He's like, yeah, you won't be able to move.
So she can't move, but she can speak and she's asking him what's happening.
And we're just seeing like little inserts and close-ups of like bloody.
He's doing something bloody.
Ew.
Just seeing like little bloodied instruments and can't quite tell what he's doing.
And he's saying, you know, haven't you ever wished you could save someone no matter what the cost?
And we're cutting back and forth between the four guys coming down.
they're seeing triangles drawn on the floor and like creepy symbols and the two father and son
like recognize that from the house from the opening scene and then we cut back upstairs to like
Maggie is kind of losing consciousness and she's she's bleeding now Kim is like completely
panicking no help at all a tough one though to be fair yeah yeah I mean you absolutely wouldn't
able to just know how to do a C-section.
She's flipping through her textbook like, oh, God, oh, no, where are you supposed to cut?
Like, I don't, you know, like, I wouldn't.
No, I would have no idea, and I've given birth twice.
I would have no fucking idea.
Also, I keep thinking of the beginning of Welcome to Derry, and I'm not convinced that that
baby is actually just going to be like a winging demon or a tentacle.
Right, right, right.
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, back to Allison and Dr. Powell.
and he's doing his, like, mysterious, creepy talking to her and says, you know, he's basically saying how he's, like, figured out how to bring people back.
And he says, of course, I've made some mistakes.
Some of my mistakes are downstairs with us right now.
In fact, they are the ones that lit the fire.
They were trying to die, but I won't let them die.
and he says, I lost my daughter to the abyss,
but tonight I'm calling her back.
And he's kind of taunting her about her own loss of her child
and like, you're going to get your child back too.
And pulls down, she's like covered with a sheet.
He pulls it down and her belly is pulsing and moving and throbbing.
and like filled with something possibly tentically
when back to our four guys
come upon a room in the hospital in the basement
that is just filled.
This is like the event horizon room.
It's filled with bodies.
Ooh, there's like a person that is silhouetted
and they're banging their forehead against a, like, pole.
but like impaling their head on the pole
just over and over and over
and then they notice the guys
and they turn and their head
is just like a huge hole through it
so these are all just like
reanimated corpses
that can't die and are all like
trying to kill themselves because
Dr. Powell has like brought them
back to life and is keeping
them in this basement to experiment
on them
okay
They see the guys enter and they kind of converge upon them and they're like crawling and some of them are like contortiony like bones bending the wrong way.
One grabs James and smashes like bashes his head into the wall, kills James. James is dead.
Oh, okay.
She's bye.
Bye James.
Upstairs, Maggie is screaming in pain and Grandpa Ben is.
like Kim, you have to, like she's going to die. You just have to try. Just do something.
And she's like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. Close up on Ben and his throat gets slit.
Blood sprays all over. Kim, he falls to the ground, revealing Maggie standing behind him with a big smile on her face. And she says, it's finally time. I'm so lucky to be carrying Dr. Powell's child.
and nothing else matters now.
Okay.
So now the cult members have gotten inside as well,
and Kim just like barricades herself in a closet.
The chaos downstairs has like spread like Danny and the father and son are all separated.
Father walks into a room that like magically turns into his home.
We see a family portrait of him and the son and like a mother and a baby.
And then the son walks in and he like turns on him and is like,
you should have protected them.
I wasn't there.
You should have protected them.
And he starts like trying to kill his son.
Son grabs a flare and like shoves the flare in his stomach.
Which like turns like brings things back to normal.
We see the room is just like a nasty basement hell room.
And now the dad's like crying and apologizing. He's like, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And Danny
finds Allison in the, well, we know in the morgue, but it's like seeming dreamy, like just like a regular sunlit
hospital room and she's pregnant about to give birth. And he's holding her hand and she's saying,
I'm scared. And he's like, it's okay. I'm with you. I'm with you. Like going
back to the day of their child's birth, and then the light in the room changes to nasty,
fluorescent, horrible light, hell, light, hell. And we hear Powell's disembodied voice just
like echoing from everywhere. And he says, I know your secret, Daniel. I saw it in your face.
the day your son died, I saw relief.
Really pretty, pretty gnarly.
Daniel has an axe still and the room flashes to reality.
What is actually happening in Allison is dead and there is tentacles like bursting from her chest and belly and like all over the room.
Great. Okay.
And Danny just starts chopping her up.
Oh, God. Oh, right. Sure. Sure. Sure. I mean, what, what, what, what is a man to do? Right. And Powell is saying, she's finally a mother. Isn't she beautiful? Ew. What the fuck? Then Danny is kind of like all of a sudden in a room with a glowing triangle on the wall. Powell asks him, do you see? Do you see now?
Danny says, I see a monster that thinks he's God.
Powell says, you still don't understand after everything I've shown you.
I also don't understand.
I'm like, Powell, you got to make it a little clearer.
If you have a specific aim here, my dude, just put it out there because I don't know what it is.
Stop speaking so cryptically.
And then he says that he defies God.
There are things much older than God, much older.
than time itself.
And he says he's like made contact with these things.
And he knows now that you shouldn't be afraid of death.
He has to embrace death.
He just needs one last thing.
And then Maggie appears and stabs Danny in the back.
Danny collapses.
Powell emerges from dark, shadowy corner.
We see that he is fully skinned Hellraiser style.
No skin left on his body.
The cultists are all closing in.
They're all in the room here too,
around this, gather around this glowing triangle
that now Powell's standing in front of,
Powell says they've all come to watch my transformation.
Watch the abyss open itself to me.
He gets on his knees and he puts his hands against the triangle
and he starts chanting in some sort of ancient language.
And the triangle like pushes,
back and reveals just a white void.
Maggie has this big smile on her face.
She, like, runs up next to him.
She's like, I'm ready, I'm ready.
Put his hand on her head and says,
place my daughter into this vessel.
And immediately Maggie's in excruciating pain.
Go figure.
Yeah.
And she falls on the ground.
Her belly absolutely explodes with tentacles.
Oh, God.
And we see Sarah Powell's lost daughter as a Beverly-type monster, bigger than she was.
Oh, bigger than she was.
A lot more tentacles.
Huge.
And then Sarah's descending upon Danny.
Oh, she's really nasty.
I mean, the tentacles kind of cover it, but it's also like her feet are all bent the wrong way.
Like there are limbs that are just like not right.
Like in the mix.
Mm-hmm.
when we hear a gunshot and Sarah is shot in what seems to be her head,
but it doesn't really do anything because as we've established,
these are kind of undead abominations.
And we turn and we see that is the father and son.
They are still alive.
Wow.
Heroes.
Sarah reaches out with tentacles and impales the father,
similar to how Trooper Mitchell, like just like,
Not in his face, but like all through his chest and torso.
It's just like...
So they're like sharp?
They don't seem sharp.
I think they're just pressing really hard.
They're really strong.
Are they like eating them or just like doing this just for fun?
Okay.
Okay.
Absorbing their...
It's hard to say.
It's pretty dark.
Pretty dark.
Pretty hard to tell.
Because we want it to be.
It was intentional.
That was an intentional choice.
Did you guys notice?
I bet you'd like to see this better.
What does that tell you about yourself?
Did you guys notice how you couldn't see anything in this film?
That was on purpose?
Pretty scary, huh?
To not know what it is that you're looking at.
So the father says to the son, like, do it, do it as he's like pouring gasoline all over himself.
Son is crying.
The son, by the way, I didn't mention has, like, bandages all around his neck.
Something has happened to him where he can't speak.
He's gotten like a, like a.
Oh.
tracheotomy.
Yeah, something, something happens.
So he's, we're seeing it all in his face.
He's devastated, but he has to light his father on fire so that he can light Sarah on fire.
And after he does this, he finds like an air vent thing in the floor and just like starts trying to escape through the vents.
We see Danny kind of, you know, he's been stabbed a couple times.
now he's not doing great and Powell is you know watching over this like it's his kingdom he's
looking so pleased with himself is he okay with Sarah having been fucking yeah because I think
lit on fire the thinking is that he's tried this on literally every everybody like he tried it on
Allison too like I think he's used to not actually being able to bring Sarah back got it I think he's like
he's still working on it it's a work in progress he's going to keep trying until he gets her
Sure, sure, sure, okay.
So he doesn't seem too upset about it.
Okay.
But he's talking to Danny and he says, you know, you can be with Allison again.
You can be with your son again.
All you have to do is let go.
This isn't the end.
And Danny's looking at him and he says, yes, it is.
And he grabs him and shoves, like tackles him into the trivents.
triangle void portal.
Okay.
And it closes up behind him.
I didn't know that that would work.
I wouldn't have thought to do that.
But I guess good thinking, Danny.
The whole hospital now starts shaking earthquake,
some dimension, reality.
Craziness is happening.
Your mind couldn't comprehend what's happening.
We see the sun, like running through a hall,
way to try to get back to the main area of the hospital as the Sarah monsters still chasing him
through the, through the halls are getting tighter and tighter, like the corridor is closing in on
them and he makes it out and Sarah doesn't. We don't see her get squished, but that's the implication.
And he just is spat out like right in the main hospital area. He finds Kim in the closet that she was
hiding in.
They hug.
They're crying in each other's arms.
Oh my God.
I think it's over.
The sun's coming up.
It's a beautiful sunrise.
Cut to black and then cut to the dark, scary clouds that we've seen a few times.
Pan down and reveal Danny and Allison in this hellish dimension reality.
They are looking up, kind of blanking.
face look up and see just a huge black triangle floating above them.
They interlace hands.
And that's the end of the movie.
Huh.
Hmm.
Okay.
Wait.
So it was Danny and Kim at the end?
Or was it, sorry, it was the son and Kim at the end?
Son and Kim.
They're the ones who came out alive.
Yes.
Because what happened?
to all the cloak guys.
They were down there and I think like, I don't know, the portal closed and they died.
Because I think they were in like a level of the hospital that didn't exist in reality.
Like because they went down that extra set of stairs.
Got it.
Yeah, yeah.
And so I think that whole section of the hospital ceased to exist.
So they ceased to exist right along with it.
Got it.
And Danny and Allison, do we think that they are in, like, through the portal where the bad guy went?
Are they in a new place, a different place?
I think they're in the same place personally.
Because, yeah, because we don't see them.
So visions.
Hard to say him.
Yeah, because he referenced the visions.
Sure.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not, it's not my favorite of the cosmic horror movies, but.
It did help me kind of cement what cosmic horror is and appreciate it and made me want to watch more cosmic horror.
I'm interested, too.
I like an existential dread.
Yeah.
I'm into that.
I would love some more answers, though, you know?
Yeah.
Wouldn't we all?
I know that's kind of the point.
It's interesting because, but it is the point.
But it's also like, I think other ones do it better where the lack of answers feels really scary rather than just confusing.
Like I feel like this doesn't answer things in a way that doesn't leave me like rattled and afraid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It just leaves me like, hmm.
Right.
Oh, right.
Right.
Huh.
Whereas Event Horizon made me feel that existential dread.
Yeah.
God, I don't even.
fucking remember what Event Horizon did to me, but I know that I don't want, I don't want to go back
there. Well, and annihilation too. I feel like that's like so unsettling. Like I felt very upset in that one.
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I don't think this is like the, the greatest cosmic horror film,
but I really appreciate it as a subgenre. And I, I feel like,
Yeah, it just makes me interested in seeing more because it's, you know, I'm going to use the word fun.
Sure.
No, but it was in its own way kind of fun because it was so ridiculous from the beginning.
Yeah, and it because it's like what are the rules here?
What's the reality?
What's truth?
It like can really, it can mess around, you know?
Yeah.
It's a good like mystery.
It was making me feel like the first season of life.
lost vibes where I was just like, what's this now? What's this now? And obviously, hard to land
the plane, but sure. I guess when landing the plane is just like, and nothing is knowable.
Right. Right. Then you've done it. But also, you can do anything then. And does that count?
Right. Yeah, I'm specifically more interested in the cult, like who those people were,
whether those were actually like towns people or were they otherworldly things or or yeah like
what's happened who where'd they come from were they humans were they not humans I have um
the same questions it's hard to feel like the stakes it's hard to feel like the stakes are high
when you don't actually know who anyone is or care who anyone is I would say the the the characters
are not the most like interesting
And yeah, obviously that's a huge part of what makes a movie good or not.
So, right.
But I still enjoyed myself.
I mean, I do have to go to bed right now.
So that sucks for me.
Well, that does suck for you.
That sucks for you.
It sucks for me.
I'm going to have to watch some Peppa Pig first.
Watch little Peppa Pig.
I'm going to go make some chili.
Emily's going to go listen to the Pam Bondi song.
Oh my God, I really am.
I really am.
I can't wait.
So, you know, do what you got to do.
We love you very much.
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