Too Scary; Didn't Watch - TITAN: THE OCEANGATE DISASTER

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

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Hi everyone, this is Emily, Henley, and Sammy here with a very special announcement. We are doing an in-person live show in Los Angeles at Dynasty Typewriter on Wednesday, July 9th at 7.30pm. We're going to be recapping Final Destination Bloodlines with special guest Lisa Gilroy. It's going to be so fun. There are going to be some surprise segments and plenty of beta blockers for us though. Bring your own. We're not doctors, so we will not be giving them out at the show. And if you are not able to join us in person, the show is also available as

a live stream and it will be available for a week if you purchase live stream tickets. You can get those tickets now at dynastytyperriter.com. We are thrilled and terrified to see you there. Happy Hel-shall-a! This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone. Welcome to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Bonus episode number two for the month of June and the year 2025, halfway through the year

at the tail end of the sammiest month, here we all are. And for the Sammiest month, we, you know, we had to do something special. And it's not just special for me, it's special for all the vessel heads out there. For all our titaniacs. Titaniacs, you can't believe how much I freaking shot out of my seat when they said that. And I was like, how the fuck have I never thought of that?

It's like the one, the main thing I remember. I tried to block everything else out from this documentary. I remember one other thing that also feels like relevant to Sammy, which is that, well, we'll get there. Okay. You'll wait. We're going to wait'll get. Okay, you'll wait. We're gonna wait. Okay. Okay, I'll Tell all our vessel heads that today we are

Not recapping really but discussing Titan the Ocean Gate disaster the documentary about the Titans submersible that is currently streaming on Netflix directed by Mark Monroe, and you know, not written by anybody, not starring anybody. Well, we'll talk about people. I guess it is starring people, but real people. It's a documentary, like I said. Yeah, you get it. It's a documentary.

You get it. You get it. And something kind of scary, I know this is a bonus episode, but something kind of scary that happened to me just this morning is that I went, well, earlier this year, I went to the Titanic Museum in Belfast and I bought a shirt and I this morning was like, I'll wear my new Titanic shirt. I have no idea where the fuck it is. Have you had it since you got home? Have you worn it since you got home? No, and I actually had a moment of like, did I buy it? But I'm, I'm certain that I did.

I've absolutely certain that I did. I have this weird thing with specifically things my mom gives me, I lose them immediately. Like it's almost this cosmic thing and it's been happening to me since high school and I've never really even like spoken about it out loud. This is like the very first time I'm even saying it out loud. But like it happens over and over and over again. Like she buys me like a lip gloss set and I never see it again. Literally gone a week later. She bought me this really nice cashmere sweater on sale one time when I was living in Los Angeles. Gone, gone within days.

Like over and over and over again. And I don't know, I thought I lost a shirt she bought me last summer. I just found it in the closet upstairs. So thank God, phew, didn't lose it. But it's, I don't know. I know that feeling, Sammy, of being like, wait, what could have possibly happened to this?

Like, when could I have lost it? Yeah, I haven't even, I don't think I even wore it yet. That happened to me recently. I bought a necklace, came home, and I- It's gone. It's gone. And I was like, I literally just threw money in the trash. Like, I just like went out, threw some money in the trash,

and came home. Like, it felt, it was like so crazy. I mean, I do that all the time anyway. I was gonna say, I do that basically and came home. It was like so crazy. I mean, I do that all the time anyway. I was gonna say, I do that basically every single day. It's like basically what I do, but I can deceive myself more easily when it's not immediately gone. Gone, much like the Titan Submersible.

Okay, perfect segue. How should we do this? Do we wanna go through it somewhat chronologically? Listeners, you all remember the Titans Immersible, the most important event of our lifetimes. It's a hugely important event. I think let's revisit how we experienced that moment in time, what we went through as individuals when this was happening in 2023. So it's been two years, right?

It's been two years, summer 2023. It was the craziest I think I've ever felt in my life. And rewatching this documentary, it brought all the feelings back of just like what a huge event this was for a lot of people, but for me personally, because I have been vocal about my love for the Titanic I have been vocal about my love for the Titanic and how many messages I was getting, like, are you seeing this? Me being glued to press conferences in a way that I am not for any other type of news event. I felt like a journalist all of a sudden like finger on the pulse like I've got to get every piece of information as it comes and Yeah, it was insane it was an insane well

Sammy and I were together with Joel at Madonna Inn when this happened and so I was getting a firsthand glimpse of Sammy. We were at breakfast at the diner one morning and she had her phone out and was like, press conference starts in 19 minutes. She had her phone out ready for us to be aware of the press conference. And it was weird, we talked about this at the time,

being in a public place when it was happening because it was all anyone was talking about. You would walk to a pool chair and every single individual group of people at the pool was talking about the Titan Submersible. It was really fascinating to just be like, oh yeah, everybody's talking about this. Yeah, monoculture doesn't exist

except for the Titan Submersible. Disasters, yeah. And I listened to it. So I only experienced it through Sammy, I think. I tried to stay away from the news articles because I knew that it was going to be too if I got too in my head about it, I would never get out. And I listened to an actually an interview randomly with Sarah Sherman from SNL recently. And she said that when the Titans Submersible was happening, she had to stop doing her stand

up shows because every time she got up to do comedy, she felt like she was on the Titan subversible and would have a panic attack. And couldn't perform knowing that it was down there, like down there in the ocean. It was a really, really scary thought. I mean, that was the whole, it was like all consuming. And I'm glad to hear not just for me. I think a lot of people. That was one of the interesting things about watching this documentary back because knowing what did happen,

which it did, what was interesting is, look, I could never make a documentary. So congratulations to the folks who did, but I didn't think this was a very good one. The structure is very strange. The structure is strange. The filmmaking choices are strange. The things that we chose to explore versus not explore,

pun intended, very strange. Like we didn't, they never actually said what, how the people died, which we only know from the news. But like, I, you know, that whole that whole counter of how much auction is left, what's it like down there in that tight space, that was the craziest part. And we now know, of course, they died immediately,

which honestly, much better. Thank God, yeah. But that was the crazy thing about watching this and just being like, oh, well, now we know. I wanted to ask you guys that because- That it happened differently. I haven't read any news stories about, like, so I don't know, so because-

It's crazy that this documentary didn't say. I assumed the documentary would tell us and they never did, and then I meant to like try to do some research and I just didn't have time. So at the end of the documentary, I think the like French Explorer's daughter says that she thinks that they would have known what was happening and they would have been scared.

Like she says that, but what's the consensus? Like what do people think happened? I it imploded. Yes, it imploded. And throughout the documentary, they kind of do explore this stupid fucking alert system. That's just like if we're hearing loud pops, things are probably not great and maybe we should head back up. So I'd say the most that happened is they probably heard a couple loud pops. Some really loud noises.

Which Stockton Rush, CEO of Ocean Gate, also so funny that it's called Ocean Gate. Crazy. Like pre-scandal, they already threw the gate in there like, I know, water gate. It's going to be a thing. But he had heard that so many times. That's what I mean in terms of like being scared because like Stockton Rush was constantly hearing these pops. Yeah, but it was the other people's first time on presumably it would have been much louder and more frequent because it was like, fully breaking.

Though I do imagine he was probably like, it's fine, it's totally fine. And then they all imploded. And then they all imploded, which would have been instant. So instantaneous. They would not have been aware of or felt a thing. Yes. I think it would have been the same amount of fear you feel on like a roller coaster or a turbulent flight of like, oh god, like is something

bad gonna happen? And then it does immediately before you can like feel any pain, which... But again, really crazy that the documentary didn't say like, and yeah, this is, I mean, like, I guess they're just assuming we all know, but... That we're all titaniums? A really wild choice to not put that in. Yeah, not at all. Like was it out of respect for the families or something? Cause possibly.

Yeah. Yeah, maybe, but I don't know. I don't know. I thought it was, I found it strange. Yeah. Personally, I found that strange. Also, I wish that they'd explored a little bit more about like what the repercussions are

for Ocean Gate. Those who stayed? Like in general, yeah, like the company and Stockton Rush's wife and like his family and does he have kids? Yeah, his wife was certainly pretty absent. Yeah, but she was very present. Very present at the end. And I also wanted to get more into the psychology.

I mean, we'll talk about what the documentary was, but they talked a lot about the moments where people chose to leave Ocean Gate. Yes. I wanted to know more about the reasons people stayed as long as they did. I wanted to know more about the psychology of power and privilege.

It was sort of, it didn't go into some of the things that I found myself being most curious about throughout watching. I also thought, okay, Stockton Rush, insane name. We were like, what a crazy name. And then it was like, oh, it's because he's named after two signers of the Declaration of Independence. And so like, I wanted to get more into, yeah, I wanted to get more into like the psychology of a person whose literal descendants are two signers of the Declaration of Independence and what that does to a man's wealthy brain.

I have a lot of thoughts about this that I can spiral about in a minute. Well, also just important to note that Stockton Rush went to the same school as Patrick Bateman. I just feel bad to call that out. That is so on the nose. They both went to Exeter. They both went to Exeter.

So did Tim's brother. He went to Exeter too. Oh my God, is he a psychopath? I don't think so. But yeah, and then- It's like a rectangle square thing. Not everyone who goes to Exeter is a psychopath, but everyone who's a psychopath went to Exeter.

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