Too Scary; Didn't Watch - WE BURY THE DEAD with Spooko

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

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This is a headgum podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy. And you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Spuko, Didn't Watch the horror movie, the cross-continental horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I am Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies.

I'm Peach and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. but I'm brave enough to listen to some synopsies. Nice. I'm Sammy and I love watching scary movies, so I watch them so that you don't have to. And I'm Shagg, and I'm really addicted to those deaths in horror movies where people explode into a cloud of blood.

Ooh, those are good ones. Amazing. We've got all of our bases covered. Here we are. For those who are unfamiliar, We are Too Scared Didn't Watch. Y'all are Spooko. We are the American and Australian counterparts to each other

joined together as we love to do for a perfect little episode. Just to keep everyone briefed and just to like talk about the elephant in the room, there's no one listening to Spooko who doesn't know what Too Scary didn't watch is. But everyone listening to Too Scary didn't watch is like, who are these two Australian idiots

pop upon to our favorite podcast? No, they love you. Not a chance. Not a chance. I will not accept any spooko slander here. I will not. So we do horror, Frady Cat podcasting from the other hemisphere, and it's a delight to be with you, team.

We're really looking forward to it. It's important work we're all doing. We're all doing important stuff. When we meet in this time of year, it is exactly, we are, it's the dog days of summer here. It is your winter. Wow. Wow.

Pretty cool. Scary times for all. How's climate change hitting you guys in LA? Not loving it. It's hitting us. How about over there? Hitting y'all over there? It makes the winters very temperate, yeah.

So we're very much in the fuck around and find out phase of the year where it's like, it's cool to fuck around. Like, this is the scene. Yeah, we're in the, we're in the, oh, God, oh God. Phase of the year as far as climate change is concerned. So pretty fun stuff. from that that we are all facing, did anything scary happen to any of us this week? Well, as someone who benefits from every single power structure that sort of exists,

as we live under patriarchy and under capitalism and under white supremacy, I very rarely am confronted with anything scary. But I had a really traditional one where we've got a golden child at home. Like they're all so grown up. Some of them are reasonably physically strong. and I'm the night parent, right? If there's stuff happening in the daytime, we sort of share that. But if there's stuff happening at night, your boy peach is doing the parenting.

And last night about quarter to three, I had the shoulder grab, shake awake moment of like, Dad, I can't sleep. Oh, God. And I was just like, phinging! Like, it just is the, like, was the most amazing thing. And for about an hour, I was like, I'm going to have to play, like, shitty tower defense games on my phone in order to calm down. So it was a very like classic scare of just like sometimes, you know, first of adrenaline. There are structural scares. There are explosions of blood. And sometimes you just

get shaken awake at a time when you're in a very deep sleep. Yeah. Have they ever said anything scary? Like I have a memory as a kid going into my mom's room and saying, waking her up and being like, mom, someone's digging in through the floor in my bedroom. Like someone's coming from under the house. Was someone coming from under the house? My hamster had gotten out and was like scratching underneath my bed. My mom, single mom, was just like absolutely terrified and has to pretend to be brave to make me feel okay because I'm freaked out. And I think about that a lot, that parents just, you kind of have to just be like, well, got to pretend that I'm the adult. I'm not absolutely terrified right now.

Like, I have an embarrassing answer that is yes. And sometimes you get caught in your own lies where this same child, let's call them Alistair, said to me like, oh, what if there was another Alistair who was bad? And I was like, oh, okay, like, I'm not enjoying this question, but like, okay, let's like see where this is going. It's like, I'm what if they were trying to like. you down this road.

Yeah. And what if they were trying to take over my life and they were trying to be me and they were trying to get rid of me? And I was like, oh, like, and you know, I'm exhausted and I'm a slightly younger parent that I was then. I was like, well, look, I don't like to talk about it a lot. But if anyone causes a problem to my family, like I will stop them. And she's like, well, how would you stop them?

And I was like, well, you know, it depends on the scenario. But if it was a baddie that sort of looked like you, like, and I was there, you know, and there was only no other way to stop them. I might use, like, violence and, you know. It's like, what sort of violence? And I was like, oh, fuck, like, I don't know. Like, I guess I'd probably choke them around their neck. And then it was like, oh, how would you know it was other Alistair and not me?

And I was just like, oh, like, Jesus Christ, it's like, you're just like walking through this mind. These are all good questions. And it turns out you're the bad guy all along. And so it was, it was revelatory stuff. So lots of scary stuff for me this week. I will say, as a parent of younger children, And my partner, Adele, will probably hate me for saying this, but one of our youngest children has a very particular style of drawing people.

And as a parent, I find it adorable, but every now and then I look at it through objective eyes, and they're terrifying. Let me pictures. So imagine a giant circle, like massive circle, but not quite a circle. So the top is round, but then it almost comes down to like a slight point down the bottom. Now down the bottom and only in this tiny bottom quadrant, two single dots, and then not a curve line for a smile, just a straight line under the two dots. Massive forehead, two dots and a line.

And just imagine page after page of that in big, small, just everywhere. It is like it's almost like they're drawing like one specific guy they've seen. Yes. This is the man who I see at night. It's a night man. It's Mr. Forrin who visits me when I'm asleep. Yeah. It's like, good.

Scary stuff. M, your post move in. Do we have other fears that are visiting us this week? You know, really what it is is that I've never lived anywhere where I have like, where the house is nice. Like the appliances are new. The counters are not. falling apart. And so it has

actually turned me into like obsessively cleaning in a way I never have before. Right. Because things look nice and so I don't want them to start looking bad. And I've been like every time I see like a fingerprint on the fridge, I wipe it down.

And it's like, well there's going to be fingerprints on the fridge because it, you open the hood of your hands. And it's like, it's okay. Regularly. Yeah. I'm like, I can't stop. Like every time I walk into the room, I wipe something now. and I'm like, this isn't sustainable, I need to find a new system.

So we're noticing, like, I'm developing some new habits that I feel like I need to sort of get in check. Yeah, I... It's tough having nice things. The problem with that is as well, it's like your potential, like, if, and like, God forbid, like an awful monster or intruder comes in and does something in your house, but it's like...

Right. You're removing any potential evidence. Like if there aren't even fingerprints on the fridge anymore, no one's going to know who did it. It's true. It's like a crime thing, no drag left. Smart. Smart.

You got to keep a little bit. A little bit of fingerprints. You got a few. A couple of hairs, a few toned out. So they know you were there. Sammy, scary stuff for you this week? You know, as I said, before we started recording, I've been working a lot.

So it feels like nothing. I feel extremely busy and yet nothing is happening in my life. But the one thing that's kind of a new, I don't know, experience, we've recently gotten a third cat. Okay. And so we have a little kitten in the house. She's about a year, I think, or nine months to a year. We're not exactly sure.

but my previous cats are 10 and it's really put into stark contrast the energy of a kitten versus a 10. It's like made me feel like my cats are old. Like I never thought of them as old cats. I was like 10 is their little babies, but now I'm seeing them as grumpy old men. And just the main thing to report is there's constant hitting between them

and not like they're not like fighting it's just they're all trying to figure out the pecking order and so my one cat Mac wants to be in charge so he'll hit the kitten every once in a while just

kind of out of nowhere to just be like hey just a lot of her she can never relax it's just like a cliche prison exercise yard like you just find the biggest cat like in here and you go you You listen up. This is my exercise yard. Yeah. And so then the kitten goes and hits Bunk, my other cat, to just, I feel like, kind of be like, all right, well, I got to like show someone that I'm tough. The cycle of violence. It makes me really sad sometimes and sometimes it makes me laugh.

But poor Bunk, because he's been putting up with this shit for Mac for 10 years. and I thought that maybe he would have the edge over the kitten, but no, he remains at the bottom of the totem pole, just getting beat up on by everyone. So cats are renowned to be so nice and welcoming. It's one of their defining sort of trades. Sure, yeah. Yeah, they're known for that.

I'm married to a vet, but we're also a dog household. But I do feel like there's that element about cat ownership that I think teaches you about life. Like it's like a grand humility project or like a grand self-improvement project. Yeah. This is why we feel for bunk and we feel for Mac. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Joel often says that often says, dogs are what we wish.

Whenever you see him, he'll be saying this. Yeah, yeah. He'll be saying it. Dogs are what we wish people were like. Cats are what people are actually like. Oh, I love that. I love that. He should say that all the time.

He should say it all the time. But there's something like so deeply true about that. With cats, it's like you just are getting what you're getting. Dogs, you're getting like an idealized version of like what relationships can be. Right. Eating their own shit. Cats are wards and all. Exactly.

So I had a real world scary moment this week. But also because like I'm such a shelter. baby. Like I am a 10 year old cat. I don't know. I couldn't make it work with it. But, but, uh, bunk over here. It's good. Um, but so it, it feels like, I think we've talked about this before. It's like, like, you know, Australia is very much, as Australians, we're very much living in a bubble and we just watch the outside world. And it feels like in America, you guys have had legal weed for like decades. It feels like you grew up with legal weed. That's just like part of your life. It's been a while.

It's a relatively recent thing here that you can just, you know, call up a place and get a prescription for like weed gummies or whatever. And I always grew up quite straight edge. But, you know, we talked about it on Spooko. Like, I've had some hilarious health diagnoses this year. And what, like, just for some anxiety I might have,

I put in this prescription for weed gummies. And they're like, you know, you get a bunch of people calling you. So first of all, they call you to screen to make sure, you're not like a drug shopper. And then like a nurse practitioner calls you to make sure you actually need it and you're not just like wanting to watch a movie on the couch. Like a really nice Saturday night evening. It's like a vibe.

Yeah, playing some microcutt. And then the chemist itself calls you and to be like to make sure it's all fine. And then they send it to you. So they're like, cool, we're going to send it to you. It's going to come in this like discrete packaging. It's, you know, and then it, then it, then it, into like Ospost is our like nationalized like you know mail service so in my ospost app I get oh cool the the items out for delivery today so I'm waiting for it

it doesn't come and this is on a Tuesday doesn't come and then I get like a little notification that comes up and says oh your package has been delayed not that it's been taken to the post office which usually happens it's like we miss you it to the post office go pick it up it's like no it's been delayed and then I check the next day it's been delayed. And then on Thursday, it still said delayed. And, like, my sheltered scared brain was like, are the cops investigating my, like, drug shipment?

They swooped in right when it was about to come to your door and they were like, oh, hold on. This doesn't feel right. This is actually a commercial quantity that you've been prescribed. And so, yeah. I was very scared. Turned out it was somebody forgot to take, yeah. Moral of the story, I have the next.

and did have a nice night watching a movie. Great. Thank God. Thank God. That was my mind. It works. It works. It works.

So guys, like public services, right, they're sort of when you pay taxes to the government and then the government does helpful stuff that sort of helps

the day-to-day administration. Sorry, just for all the, for all the too scary didn't watch listeners who that might sound in a long story. Yes, yes, yes.

Thank you. A bit of a foreign concept. Yeah, so they get paid, so the taxes you pay get applied to help members of the community for things. That kind of stuff. Who pay?

But who pays for war? You know, like, we actually don't, we don't engage in all that many more. We are, like, more and more, there are so many, like, every single person in Australia who knows someone in the army will come back to you and be, like, terrified to be like, we have nothing. And if there are any foreign powers listening to this podcast thinking about invading Australia, like, we got nothing. We got, like, a couple of jets.

Look, our biggest, like, defense expenditure, this is genuine, is eight secondhand submarines that we're buying from the US in the mid-2030s. They're due to arrive. Oh, you don't have them yet. The nature of the contract is such that I think they're technically an arm of the US military or like they're us executing our like ally obligations pursuant to these submarines. So if, you know, Donald Trump Jr. or whoever is, like, whoever's in place in 2036 is like, I'd really like the subbrains to just go piss off China.

We're like, oh, do we have to? Oh, we got to. You got to do that. So speaking of the differences between the U.S. and Australia, I don't, I'm actually really curious how you guys were taught history in primary. school or no no no you're shaking out just not just kind of not really but but but in but in terms of history like and specifically the history of your own country does it sort of start when it's colonized is that when the history you're taught begins yeah there's like um i feel like there's a few anecdotes

tossed in about like oh and there were people here before uh uh right that is that's kind of it They're fighting the cowboys, but then that's sort of it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like not, yeah, it definitely starts when the white people came and started living here is kind of what we learn as America, an American history. Yeah, so the older I get, you know, it's like Australia had like a, you know, 50,000 year civilization before colonization by the English and it's usually a chapter. It's a chapter that's like, right?

It's like just let's get this out of the way. And now, Captain Cookshire. It's only as I got older, I realize how much that that approach to history has infected, infected all the things we were taught. So I went to art school after high school. And one of the things they teach you is hilarious. Like they barely teach you about like the dot paintings and the, you know,

the indigenous art forms of Australia. That's all seen as almost like a, weirdly enough, that's seen as something like ethnic rather than something that belongs to us, right? But they, you know, one of the things they teach in art history is that when settlers first came to Australia,

they literally didn't know how to paint Australia. They painted it and all the first paintings they did just looked like England. And they were sending back these pictures and everyone's like, oh, wow, okay. And it's like, it didn't look like Australia because it's like, Australia does look different. And there's there's reasons why it, you know,

it's the, it's the flora, the fauna or whatever, but it's also the light. The light is different here. And, you know, I remember when I was really young and did a gap year in Spain, I came back home. And like one of my like, you know, core memories is that morning coming back into Sydney and just being like, the colours just were so different.

to what I'd, you know, been living through in Spain for so long. Wow. And I think that, to me, this is really important when describing Australian horror films. So it's really hard to capture how Australia looks and feels. Like, it just is. If you shoot, like, the traditional filmmaking techniques were not invented here, and we didn't really pioneer it. I mean, fuck, like, I'm sure we pioneered some things, I'm sure.

But, like, it's not really an Australian art. So it's hard to capture what Australia looks and feels like. And there was a really big-ish, or at least a very buzzy Netflix film this year called Apex, which apparently was shot in New South Wales, which is the state peach and I live in. Did you guys see that? I did.

This is the Charlize one. It was fine. Yeah, Charlize and Taryn. I did not see it. It just, it was supposed to be set in Australia. It just didn't feel like Australia at all. Like it just, the way it was shot, the plotting, the dialogue, the behaviours, nothing about it felt Australian.

So what I'm really excited about is the film we're talking about today, you know, and there's reasons why it does, but just feels intensely Australian. So, you know, Sammy, you've seen it, but taking us through this, this will give you a feeling of what it is like living in our weird bubble in the southern hemisphere. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we all have big birds. We're both days around here. Big baby.

Did I, I don't remember if I told you guys this last time we did one of these, but I work with a lot of Australians. Did I tell you guys that? No. What? My, I work for an Australia, the founder of my company that I work for, the brand I work for is Australian and. You work for an office?

And it's rip a bit of them. I won't say. I'd rather not. Get into it. Well, let's not get into the details. But there's an office. company has an office in Melbourne. And I have many Australian co-workers.

You didn't hit the hard-ar. You didn't hit the hard eye. Yeah. Do that again. I can do that again again. Melbourne. Okay. Now you have to change the mail to mall

and then people will believe you're from there. It's good. Melbourne. Yes. So I know a lot of Ozies now. Let's go. So it's just a fun little, fun little tidbit now. What have you discovered?

Like what has changed in your life now that you're surrounding by Ozies? Um, y'all say heaps a lot. We do say heaps. Um, hapes, hapes. Um, and honestly, this is just this littlest nugget, but I, I learned what's up with calling afternoon Arvo? Oh, what is that? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's just what we call it. We, we, like, it's, I, I often think it's, I've never heard this. Like, I often like, I never had either. A, R-V-O, Arvo.

No, Arvo, yeah. And the thing is we don't call morning mornow. Morning's just morning. Mornow. There are very specific things that we shorten. And I often try to keep like a bit of a data bank in my brain for when we do these episodes to be like, what's another thing that you probably haven't heard?

So, all right, so Tracksuit Pants. This is true. We call track suit pants, tracky Dax. Because Dax. Wait. You also call mono glandular fever. Yes, we do.

Yes, we do. That's a very specific one. Someone must have got mono. Someone, my coworker was talking about someone who had mono. She was like, it's the kissing disease

what you guys called out. I was like, oh, mono. And she was like, that's not right. That's not what you're saying. She was like, oh, glandular fever. I was like, that sounds way more intense. Glangula fever. Glangylia.

It's really intense. Let's go. I can't get over how good your accent is. She's immersed in it. Thank you. I'm immersed. It's gotten better. I hear it every day.

I hear it every day in my life. One day you'll try a nice cup of coffee, Em, and that'll be game over. It'll be... Has anyone called you either a sick cunt or a dog cunt, yeah? No. Because it's really important because a sitcom is good. Like that's the highest form of flattery. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dog cunt is the opposite. Okay. Okay. Good to that. So if you go to Ozzie, if you go to Oz. you go to all your Aussie friends and call them sitcoms, they'll love it. What's up C-words? Like, you can just enter the room.

You're like, what's up, C-words? And you'll get a round of applause. But truly, some of my Aussie's, Aussie co-workers are in town this week. And I'm curious to try some things. I'll keep you posted. And as well, like, the one other loaded term I've come to realize and understand better is mate can mean either like very close friend or like mortal enemy. a nemesis.

Yeah. Idiot who you've got no acquaintance with. It's the most contextual word, I think we've got going on. Because Shag's my mate and then I'll refer to some of the worst people I've ever dealt with as mate. And then people I've just met, they're also mate. So it's just a contextual thing that you're allowed to sum it up and put to use however you feel fit.

Yeah, I love. Hi, I'm Beck Bennett. I thought I was Beck Bennett. No, no, no, no. I'm Kyle Mooney. Sorry about that. Exactly. No, all good. All good. Thanks, buddy.

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We are talking about We Burry the Dead came out. Good title. Good title. Really good title. Came out earlier this year. Written and directed by Zach Hilditch, starring Daisy Ridley, Brenton Thwaites, and Mark Cole Smith. I had not seen this movie until now, but I heard about it

when it came out. And I had heard like kind of, not negative things, but just not a lot of praise about it. And so I was like, okay, I'm like, it's not high on my list. And I watched it and I loved it. Hmm.

Right, right, right. Australian filmmaking. It'll get you. But I will say, I reckon like it's been a great year for horror. And we say that every year. Yeah. And every year it is a great year for horror.

But I actually think this is my favorite horror film of the USFA. Ooh. Okay. I would put this over. Like, I love everything this year, but there's, there's, you'll see when we go through this, there is a haunting nature to this film that is, that it's kind of, I don't know many directors who can really get this.

But more than that, there's a twist on the zombie genre in this film. That, considering how well, how much it's been covered, I've never really seen tackled. And I, I adore it, Sammy. Tell us, tell us more. So you loved it. me. So you went in with low expectations. Did you just love it because it surprised them or genuinely did you engage me? I was just engaged the whole time. I thought, yes, very haunting and very

surprising takes like you said. I had seen, well, after I watched it, I was like reading some letterbox reviews and a lot of people were like, it's so boring, just so boring. I'm like, has nobody seen like a slow burn movie? It like truly from the start, it did something that it just felt really real and so those movies feel scarier to me than a lot of horror movies like

all horror movies someone's going to complain it's barely a horror movie it's like barely scary at all and this movie even though it's maybe not like traditionally horror scary I think scared me more than most horror movies because it was

able to create such a real like capture such a surreal feeling. I don't want to get too distracted, but just so long as we're teaching you guys American Australian, Sammy, next time someone says it's barely a horror movie, you're allowed to call them champ, and that's a big insult. You go, all right, champ. Like, or champ.

And they will know that you're big dogging them. And you're like, yeah, all right, champ. Thanks for your, thanks for your view. And it stands alongside mate as like one of the more profound insults you can hand out. Perhaps even more insulting. Champ or Champ is even more. insulting because you've extended some time. Wow.

So it's a slogan and it's arguable about its genre. Yeah, okay. Okay. Is it a descriptive title? Well, I mean, definitely. There is some dead burying in the film. So absolutely. There's a point where it's like, they are.

Look at them. They're burying the dead. They're burying their dead. But Zach Hilditch, the director, he's from Perth. So he's Australian, he's from Perth. And one of his first films, I don't know. If you guys have covered this, have you've seen this, Sammy, called These Final Hours.

Exactly the way you described before where it's like, it's not quite a horror movie, but it's one of those films that's disturbed to me so much because it's essentially has this incredible setup where it's the last day on Earth. Some sort of major thing has happened. Because Australia often gets, you know, like, it's already hit Europe, I think,

and it's like an asteroid or something. something and there's essentially a giant fireball coming and Australia is having its final day ever and people are just working out what to do and you know there's like apocalypse parties and our main character chances upon this young girl who's been like kidnapped by two gross dudes and he just kills the dudes and the young girl's like I want to find my family so he's like I'm just going to help you find your family on my life on our last days on earth and that film has stuck with me more than most horror films. And you can kind of see the through line of how someone who starts there

would then approach the zombie genre this way. It's a bit boring though that one. Oh, I'm so excited. Bit boring. Some stats for us. This has an 87% on Rotten Tomatoes, 61 on Metacritic and a 5.6 on IMDB. IMDB hated it. The budget was somewhere between 3 and 5 million

and it made... Australian, though. Australian. Okay. Right? So that's like 50,000 American dollars. Or maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure, actually.

It doesn't say. But then it says that it made 4 million, which is between 3 and 5 million. No matter what currency. That I can. It actually feels like a tax dodge or something of like, oh, we lost money. Like between three and five million, it did cost five million and we only made four. But then when you're pitching your next movie, I was like, between three and five million.

We made one. Yeah, exactly. You're right. Yeah, and then I guess just to continue on that feeling of like tapping into something real, one piece of trivia I read is that Zach Hilditch started writing this screenplay in 2019 following the death of his mother and having to like clean up his childhood home, clean out his childhood home.

And you can really feel some of that in here. Pretty heavy. We did Lee Kronen last week. These like white guys with dead mums. They love making films. They're like, okay, now's the, it feels like a Disney trope or something that's like, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now's the time to make the horror movie. I got stuff to work with now. Finally. Oh, Jesus. Sorry, that's a terrible. That's a terrible thing. Now I'll get to work on my screenplay. Yep.

We're going to watch the trailer at the end because I think this is a fun one to go into. Fun's maybe not the right word, but a good one to go into knowing less. So let's just get into it. Shaggy, kick it off. Let's do this. Let's do this.

And Sammy, as an editor, I'm curious how you feel about the needle drops in this film because all the songs, song choices are like out there. So just to set the scene, the film begins, the first thing you hear before you see anything, is Kid Cuddies the pursuit of happiness. Really? Really, really.

I'm in the pursuit of. Cut me, I'm sorry. It's happiness and I know. Yeah, okay. Yeah, Sammy, how do you feel? feel about the needle drops in this film? They were certainly effective at, like, drawing your attention to do something. Like, I did like this one just because it was so unexpected.

It's like such a weird way to start, especially for this movie. But I think for this it's a good choice because it's just such a fun celebratory song. and creates the stark contrast needed for what's ahead, I guess. Oh, boy. So we're at a wedding night. Ava, who is played by Daisy Ridley, is with her husband. As the scene continues, what we hear is a voicemail from Ava trying to contact her husband, and he's not replying.

And she's saying she saw something awful on the news. She hopes he's okay. She loves him, and she will keep trying. She will keep trying. Fade to Black. We get the titles. We bury the debt. We then find out that Hobart.

Okay, now just to set the thing. Hobart is the capital city of Tasmania. Yeah, explain Tasmania to us. I love that. Think Alaska. Think Alaska that like this flip around. It's weird. It's weird.

So Australia is made up of eight states and territories. Is it eight states and territories? Is that right? All states and territories. Yeah. Six states, two territories. Yeah. Six States two territories.

So Tasmania is the island down the bottom. You know, Australia is already a bubble. Like we're already like intensely a bubble. Like we're so far from, you know, a lot of the sort of Western civilization that we think we're a part of, even though we're much closer to Asia and probably should consider ourselves more part of Asia. But like every state is sort of competitive with every other state.

So and every state is like paid out a bit. So, you know, New South Wales, the state we're from, everyone's sort of a bit of a wanker and like money obsessed and, you know, looks obsessed. You go down to Melbourne, which is in Victoria and they're all like snobs and like themselves. You go to Queensland and everyone's racist. You got to Perth and it's like what, and Western Australian, it's like, who the fuck are these people? Where are they even? So all of Australia fucking sucks.

Just the bits white people have gone to him. And then you go to Tasmania. right and it's it's all like it's a bubble within a bubble so tasmania is like this it's also like a weird biome like the the fauna doesn't look the same to everywhere else it it has like you know in hobart there's beaches where the water's incredibly cold and from the beach you can look up and see a snowy mountain it's it's this weird it's this weird clash of everything australia does in this tiny little pocket it's the sort of place where a lot of billionaires are building bunkers because it's like it's going to

know really weather becoming sort of climate wars really well. And I mean, culturally it's weird. It's like a big, it's a very white country town. With a sprinkle of New Zealand thrown in. Think of like your stagia. Your cliches about Australia, smaller town, sprinkle of New Zealand on the top. Okay.

But it is very isolated. And if you live in Tasmania, you call every other Australian a mainlander. So you already see, yourself as distinct from the rest of Australia and being Australian you already see yourself distinct from the rest of the world. It's a very isolated place and it's the most perfect

place to have a zombie outbreak. Now I love how they do the zombie outbreak in this film. So we then watch Hobart get destroyed. There's this really famous bridge that goes into Hobart. It's the first thing you see. It just goes over the Derwent River, which is the main river through Hobart.

It seems like it's got more cars on it than Tasmania even has, which I think is maybe CGI, but we see this bridge get destroyed by what looks like a nuclear bomb before we realize we're watching footage from a news report that Ava is watching on the plane described as an accident by the US that set off an experimental weapon off the west coast of Tasmania wiping out the island's entire population. I need to pause here, Peach, like I know you're not a international law scholar, but you are a lawyer on the podcast.

Yes. If a country accidentally sets off a weapon and wipes out a big part of our population, can we sue them? Oh, it's an accident. Yeah, look, I think the family, so like one of the basic, this is super, super, super boring,

but you can sue entities, including nation states for wrongful death. And so I imagine that the relatives of these people who've passed away assemble a pretty big class action and have a pretty successful time trying to pursue the US in a wrongful death claim. And then I presume, I mean, I'm pretty sure the next thing you have to do is declare war.

Like I think, I mean, you just killed, you just killed stacks of our people. But with what, you guys, your eight used submarines? No, we have to give them to us. So quickly get them to us and then we'll declare war. But it's funny, right, of like that pretty much is in. If you don't declare war then, like there's an element of like, oh, please don't make us declare war. Please.

But I think that's probably the next international law step, right? Probably. Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, civil suits come away. A lot of plaintiff law firms will be rubbing their hands together. trying to figure out the contact details of mainlanders who've had, oh, there'd be awful ads, distasteful ads everywhere. Have you got a relative who died in Tasmania?

Yep, yeah. But they'd all succeed. And you've, you know, now that you are surrounded by Australians, do you think Australians look different? Like, can you tell an Australian? Yeah, what races do you think? How do you think each race looks trying to really drill into it? No, no, but I mean this.

I mean this, like, if someone, are you like, oh, they're Australian? No, because there are. all over our movie screens playing Americans. So we've been... It's true. I think definitely no, but if I'm interacting, if I'm like,

I see someone and then I hear them and they're Australian, I do think sometimes a part of my room and goes, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Right, right, right. Is that because the accent's 99% convincing and then Samara weaving

will just say a word that you don't often say like Saskatchewan or something and there'll be some strange little moment where you're like, oh, that's the little accent flub? Yeah, there's a little part of my brain that goes, like, that tracks when I learn that someone is. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

I don't know, hard to describe. But from the looks of a person, no, I cannot tell where they're from. The long forehead and the broad nose or whatever it might be. Yeah, awesome. What about, and not that they look just like us. I've got heaps of friends who are Australian. Yeah, yeah. Heaps.

So we've got, we do. We do say it all of that. So, so Daisy, so Ava, Daisy Ridley is watching this on her phone, on a plane. A woman next to her is sort of like, you know, doing that awkward, like leaning on her head. She wakes up and she's like, oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't snoring, was I? Then a reveals that apparently they felt nothing just drifted off to sleep. As she looks at a locket of her loved ones. And I wrote a little note here that says,

that old woman just felt very Australian. Even though I've literally known, and maybe this is a global thing, I don't think I've ever seen anyone in my life open a locket of their loved ones and gaze longingly at it. Right. You look at your phone background,

that's probably where you do. Right, exactly. But that is the new locket. That's so true. Your phone background is the new locket. Where would I get a tiny photo of someone? And you'd have to pull it out. Yeah, it'd be...

Too much work. So it is really... revealed that the Australian army is appealing to civilians to come to Tasmania to help with the clean-up, which is what their plane is doing. They land and give up their phones and they let into a giant processing queue and a hangar where tempers are already flaring. Ava wants to go south to a small town to help because her husband is there, but has told no one is going south of Hobart yet as it is still on fire. I think this film does a gorgeous job of slowly revoke. revealing the true backstory behind Ava.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, it doesn't give you much in the beginning. You just know her husband was there and she wants to find him. But that's pretty much all we know. And she's patient with people on planes as well. Like if someone's like, oh, here are my thoughts on your relatives. I'd be like, champ, shut the fuck up.

Like, I'm like, I'm on a plane. Like, like. Something the woman does say is about her grandson, though, on the plane as she says, hopefully he'll be one of the ones that wakes up. Ooh. Ooh. So she's part of a body retrieval unit. And at the briefing, it is revealed that, yes, God, now I'm putting on an Australian accent.

Yes, what's your Australian accent? Yes, the rumours are true. No, but it's like, they're like, they're like, They're like, yeah, the rumors are true and that in rare circumstances, the deceased, I love this terminology in this film. The deceased come back online is how they describe it, zombies. So in some cases, the deceased come back online and behave strangely, but don't worry, the lights on, no one's home.

The odd ones that do come back online are docile and slow moving. You have nothing to fear. And anyway, the army's here to protect you no matter what. That's a strange warning. To be like, if you say I'm walking around, just don't worry about it. Just don't even worry about it. They say like, call, light your flare and, like, call us over and we'll take care of them with the dignity they deserve.

I think, and what this film does really well is something that I don't think I've ever properly interrogated with a zombie movie. And what we'll get into one of the reasons why I love it is, like, zombies used to be people. And I don't think. think zombie movies ever really like even Sean of the Dead sort of has a joke at the end with the friend like chained up in the in the shed or whatever but this idea that these zombies were people and now they're not but what does that mean for the loved ones and what does that mean for anybody

with humanity to see these zombies and rather see them as monsters but see them as just people I think it was just like a real like light bulb moment in my brain. Sammy, I don't know if you felt the same. Yeah, because it doesn't necessarily feel too much like a zombie movie. It feels like a disaster movie. Like you're thinking of it much more as like, oh, a horrible disaster has happened and affected so many people. And it like, you know, it's like the military and nurses and doctor.

It just is like feels like the aftermath of a disaster. And so it like, I don't know. I felt more, like that was the feeling I was getting from it more. Sympathy towards the zombies? Rather than a zombie movie. It was, yeah, feeling like a disaster movie. Yes, sympathy towards the zombies.

Because they're like victims of this disaster. Right? Right. They're victims of the U.S. government. And so... You guys wouldn't know what that's... So being a victim of the youth. So all the way through the film,

she has these flashbacks to her husband. And at the beginning, they're just kind of nice. You know, it's like, you know, she's at the wedding night. There's one where she's in bed with him and he sort of like turns around and it's really lovely. And then she's sort of shaken back to consciousness

and she's on a bus and she's being bust out with everyone in this body retrieval unit and you see these like single file line of buses track through suburban Hobart and there's all these like poorly CGIed smoke stacks coming up from, I think one of the reasons like people didn't love this film is like

it does use a lot of CGI that seems like not great. I don't know like Sammy as an editor like how do you deal with like CGI are you just like let's just not cut to this can we just I didn't mind it. Sorry, my cats are going to start being annoying. Yes. Getting to be close to dinner time. I didn't mind it because I appreciated the...

Because you could totally do this movie just like intimate interiors, basically. But I kind of appreciated having the scope of just having it feel big. And there's like shots later too, where it made it feel. just like a more massive thing. Like, I felt like I needed those shots. And so even if they looked bad, I think I appreciated them. So they get out of the bus.

They go in pairs, you know, pair by pair to go through each house. Like God, like what a job. To go into each house, find corpses and then bring them out. So in Ava's first house, like this movie is just, it's just it's haunt like I have no other word but haunting for it so Ava's first house she goes around the back with this woman who we don't really meet but she reads as like super tough she's got like short hair and tats and she's all really confident with a sledgehammer like she's ready to go like retrieve some bodies like she doesn't care yeah can I can I just float out I just want to see how

good my horror film vibes are can I just float out a cat jump scare I'm just saying There's a cat jumpscare coming and that's just my read, my reader the pulse of this scene. There are jump scares in this film. Yes, there are a few. But not here yet. So the first thing we notice instead of a jump scare is we notice a row of shoes at the back door, some adult shoes and some children's shoes. And it's just like just that image is just so, so full on.

Anyway. Don't tell Henley about the children's shoes. We just tell her there was only adult shoes there. That's fine. Yeah. The house feels super. Again, it's like interiors. It's hard to get interiors right.

And the house feels like an Australian suburban house. There is a half-eaten meal lie on the kitchen table. And outside, hose still in hand, a mother and her kids are lying dead on the ground. And the corpses are all sort of like, their skin is blotchy. They look like they look like zombies. Yeah, they're like purplish.

They say that it was like an electromagnetic weapon that went off and so it just like killed like every cell in their body or so. I can't remember exactly how they, but for everything on the whole island. So no cats in there either, Peach. Oh no.

It's killed. everything on the island, every living thing on the island was like just immediately sell death. Classic US military. I'm like, this weapon feels like overkill. Yeah. I love that it's a weapon that's like, oh shit, you didn't turn on the way.

You didn't leave the weapon on just on, did you? Yeah. Oh, fuck, I left it on. Shit, shit, shit. So next we see people lying, laying dead bodies neatly in a row on the footpath outside the houses as a tractor just slowly drives up the road like with its tray filled with corpses to collect them. Her tough partner couldn't deal with this first house and she's like, I have to just go home and see my girls. She then spots another guy whose partner also couldn't

handle it because we see this guy's partner comes out and spews and they decide to link up and be partners. Now I don't know, like I think it's just very loosey-goosey. I think they go, hey, they're just going to be my partner now and they're like, cool, you keep checking the houses. Look, I don't want to get to, like, anti-red tape or whatever. Like, I'm generally reasonably pro-red tape. Like, surely there'd be, like, counselling sessions and training videos.

Well, well, I mean, no, there's not, but there is, like, a really nice scene later on where we see a couple of different priests of different faiths praying over the dead bodies. But there's an element where it's like, oh, fuck, on my body retrieval, I'm seeing some bodies. Oh, fuck. Like it's like, yeah, man, like, that's a big, that's a big part of it.

That's a big part of body retrieval is the bodies. The retrieval's big as well, but the body bit, yeah. They explore more houses. We see more dead people. There's an overturned pram. I didn't like that. I was going to say, I really thought that we were going to see a dead baby. They were like really coming up on it.

Like, I'm glad they didn't. I'm glad they didn't do it. I mean, like the implication is there. Yeah, I mean, but, but, but, I'm also, like, I've said this before, like, I am pro dead kids. Like, kill all the kids in horror movies if you have empathy for them. And I think this film, like, I'd be like, if there was a dead baby there, I'd be like, well, you had empathy for that baby, so you're allowed it.

But there is no dead baby. We just say, but I agree. You know that there's one somewhere. There's one, well, there's a. Yeah, it kind of does the, yeah, does the job of reminding you. Oh, there's tons of dead babies around this place. Just so they're all on school camp on the mainland and they just have a throwaway line of like,

oh, lucky all the babies went on school camp too. There's one bit that didn't make sense to me though because at one point they just, you know, because there are these montages of all these different, just visuals of like what this would, what, you know, like bringing this world to life. And one of them is like a door stuffed with letters. And I'm like, no, no, no.

The post person's dead too. Oh, yeah, hang on. Yeah. Yes, and there was some moments where it felt like a lot more time had passed than I think it would have. Like it seems like this is a pretty immediate aftermath. But yeah, then there's things like that that I felt like are they trying to say like weeks and months have gone by? So yeah, a couple notes, I guess. I guess I got a few notes.

Yeah, even if it's been weeks, it's like they would have told the Postal Service you don't deliver there. You know, everybody got it. That's my point. It doesn't make any sense. And a mainland postal delivery person had to come up. Cricy, there's a lot of dead bodies around here. We call it postage. Hayes.

There's heaps of dead bodies. All right, okay. Okay, all right. He, so her partner's name is Clay and Ava sort of just contemplates to deal with this. because she's obviously laser-focused on fighting her husband. He smokes to deal with it. There's lots of shots of him smoking.

They have a couple, a number of like really nice little chats between the two of them. And there's this constant question of like, why are they coming back? Like, what is going on? And she's like, I don't get it. Why do only some of them come back? And he has this line that I fucking love where he's like, fuck if I know, poor bastards,

imagine dying twice. And I kind of. have loved that. He needs to take a shit in a house and then she decides to have a flashback to their wedding day one more time. We see a food. Sorry, it was just a weird contrast. He's like, I've got to take a shit.

She's like, now? And he's like, oh, where else am I going to? I really am putting on a very Australian accent. Daisy Ridley, by the way, is American in it. Just. Oh, let's go. Yeah, because she's not American, right? And her accent is not great.

No. I got to say. But it's like, do you have to do that right now type of thing? You know, and they like move their mouth, full mouth. Yeah.

Full mouth. She's really using her mouth. It's most of the, she doesn't have tons of dialogue. So honestly it like doesn't, it's not super distracting because it's a very quiet movie. But there were a few moments where I was like, oh, yep, she is not a very,

Also, she could have been English. So, oh, I guess it makes sense for her to be American. I think it makes sense for her to be American. Yeah. Well, we need her away from Tasmania. Like, we need the plot. No, you'll see. There's a couple of smaller moments that there is like some underlying tension

between Australia. She's in the military and is always leaving stuff on and she got kicked out. Well, no. I mean, it's, I don't know how else to say this. And I mean no disrespect. Sorry, you go, Sammy. I was just going to say, I think, because there's like an added element of guilt with her being American

because it's like a little bit like yeah this is your fucking fault it's not her fault directly but obviously coming to this disaster zone as someone from the country responsible I think it like adds an element of tension

to her character of just like ooh so wow she's pulling a call on the whole time and like oh sorry well Sorry, sorry, sorry. Our bad. There's something really darkly hilarious about her seeing the overturned pram

and being like, oh. Yikes. Right. So while they're on the food line, the woman who was sitting next to her on the plane, we see her, she's found her son, he's lying in the back of a yute.

Well, I didn't put together that that was the woman from her. a plane. I think that was. It might not have been, but yeah. And she's just inconsolable. She's just like, wake up, wake up, why won't you wake up? And the army are just standing there being like, we don't know what to do. It's kind of heartbreaking.

I think it's really important to point out, like, we haven't seen a zombie yet. Jake, Ute, do we need a translation? That's a pickup truck with like a flat back. Like, you guys don't know Uts? You guys don't have Uts? You have Uts? If we do, we don't call them that. Disruck.

Well, we call them. You know's if we're speaking casually, but there we go. We're speaking in the morno. So Ava and Clay slowly get to know each other. She is a physical therapist. There's another flashback. And we discover that they were trying to have a baby, but unsuccessful. And her husband says to her, don't worry, we have all the time in the world.

Don't say that in a film. That's tough. If you know you were being filmed, never say we have all the time. I do feel like the Simpsons joke captured that perfectly with the McBain of the like, I'm retiring in three days. Here's the boat we bought like the Live Forever or whatever it's called. You just can't say it in fiction. It's just always a big mistake.

Yep. So Ava and Clay investigate a garage and they find an old sports car. It's here they encounter their first zombie. And it's kind of scary. Sammy, talk us through this, how they construct this scene. It's, I mean, it's very dark, and she's circling the car and sees bloody footsteps, which, uh-oh. And...

Whoops. And follows the footsteps to the corner of the garage and sees, like, very, very... very shadowed and hard to see, but someone standing in the corner or hearing, I guess not breathing, but like some noise, making some noises. But being pretty still and she gets Clay's attention and Clay opens the garage so that it gets some more light in there. And we get a good look at it. I think it's a really scary zombie. It's not like actively threatening, but I mean the like makeup design of it is really scary.

The skin is like purply bluish. She's covered in blood. It just looks like, I don't know, like wet. It looks wet. It's very damp. It's a very damp. And really big like shiny eyes. What's the word, glassy eyes?

like it's really scary, but she's making eye contact with it and it's a long enough, holding eye contact long enough that you're like, what's happening here? Like they're kind of having some sort of moment. And that becomes, I guess,

like a recurring motif through the film in that she is, she's not scared of the zombies because clearly of, you know, of whatever she's thinking about the husband that she wants to find. The other thing the zombies do in this film is they sort of, their teeth are slightly ground down and they sort of grind them. Like they, it's almost like they drag their top jaw across their bottom jaw. And so, you know, like often there'll be scenes where you don't see any,

but you hear this, like, teeth grinding and you know that there are, like, zombies close by. Horrifying. Anyway, so Clay goes. goes outside, lights of flare, off camera, we don't see this. We watch behind Ava the army going after her and we hear sort of muffled gum shots of it being taken down. Later we have that scene of the faith healers holding burial services overbodies.

So it's nighttime on their first night. They are staying in an abandoned office block in Hobart. People are partying. I think she tries to sneak out with a map to a resort of the south of the island and someone catches her sneaking out, Peach, go. I think maybe you would party.

Yeah, totally. Yeah. You sort of, like, I think that's right. Like, cool, pretty intense, you know, a set of days here. Yeah, I need to be. Like, we're staying in an office block. Pretty, pretty regularly.

Let's chuckle on some cute cutty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So she tries to escape with her map to the South Island. A soldier's like sneaking out and she's like, no. and then the soldier just hints at the tension being like,

surprised we let any yanks in at all should have been a blanket ban. I think it's really important to note that just in general and like you guys are great, but generally Australians are suspicious of Americans. I mean, everybody should, sure. Okay. That raises a threat, Sammy. Everyone fucking should be,

or we're going to nuke your like islands. They're going to turn everyone to zombies. Mm-hmm. I think it's fair. I think that's a fair thing. Enjoy your submarines, champ. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think what I love about this line where it's like, I'm surprised they let you yanks in. It should have been a blanket ban. There is a real, like, you will every now and then hear people be like, oh, the bloody yanks or whatever. It's like that's usually the term used when we're being disparaging

of all 300 million people who live in the United States. And mainly Southerners, right? Which, what sound bizarre to you guys, of like those yanks from Louisiana and stuff and it's like, oh, like, yeah, it just means it, yeah, people from the USA. I don't know what the word yank means. It's meaningless to me.

Does it have, does it, to me it means Americans. Is that not right? Is it more than us? When you, yeah, when you go back to like, like civil war distinctions, yeah, the Yankees or the north. But I would take it all as American. Yeah, it makes sense to me.

Yeah, then everyone just came together after. The Yanks. Yeah. So she goes back inside and she's like, she's basically like, you can't leave, go back inside and let off some steam with the rest of them. And they go inside and there's a marriage reception happening.

Oh, there was? No, I didn't notice that. No, so in the background, because I was like, there was a party, everybody was sitting at tables and there was like a banner on the back wall and I was like, what is going on? And it says just married. A perfect time for that.

Hey, if not now, when? All right. So she has a drink with Clay reveals that the resort that she's trying to go to that she had the map for is where her husband was on a work retreat. She tells Clay after seeing the zombie, she thinks there could be life in them,

to your point about, you know, what she was look at and wants to find her husband. And then we get our first jump scare because she is in a house and there's a zombie that looks like Eric Banner's portrayal of Chopper Reed runs out of a room at the camera and then she wakes up and she's still asleep. It got me.

It was a cool. I feel like there was a criticism to this film that he kept going back to zombie tropes but I kind of liked the, I kind of liked the fact that he was clearly trying to, like would you say that Zach was trying to be like, Would you say that Zach was trying to be like, no, this is a zombie film? Like he was placing it within the zombie discourse?

I think so. But I feel like it was more, I don't know. I guess I'm not sure what Zach, what the thinking behind the jump scares was, but I just really appreciate jumps scares that aren't expected. Like because it kind of is not the rest of the tone of the movie. And so those are the kind of jump scares I like the best, because then they actually get me because I'm like, oh,

I wasn't expecting this movie to do that. Sammy, can I just press you on that point for a moment and including on the relationship between like an editor and a director, as I understand it. Like, I understand that we're like 50 years deep into a discourse

that's like, it's the director's film. And that my like lack, like, I don't know anything really about film craft. But my understanding is that a commanding majority of the creative decisions about how the final work looks happens in the editor's,

studio. Sometimes the director will be there, sometimes not. And, you know, like the popular criticisms are like Scorsese's a middling film director with an OKI who luckily makes friends with some very good editors and works with them over time. But like, and so if we're talking about a jump scare, to me, that seems a real creature of the edit booth versus a creature of the director's eye. And of sound. It's like, yeah, just sound design and music. And like, usually there's like a little bit of something to let you know that a jump scare is probably coming. Or a lot of directors want to like milk the time before a jump scare to be like, oh, something scary is probably going to happen pretty soon.

You don't know when it's going to happen. So you're like really on the edge of like, oh my God, I know something's going to happen. And this just doesn't do that. They just really come out of nowhere. and those are just my favorite kind of jump scares. And so can I ask you to speculate on maybe how this conversation would have gone? Like, would Zach come and pitch like, hey, like, I think we're now at a point where we want to like make sure people know we're watching a zombie film?

It could have been like a studio note or some, like a producer note. Like there is certain things, there are certain expectations in horror of like, a scare needs to happen every like 15 minutes. or that sort of thing. And so it might have been something like that. Yeah, they could have been like, we need a scare here. And so they write in a dream sequence or whatever.

But yeah, it could also been in the script. Yep. A lot of people that play here. So the next day, Clay and Ava are investigating, well, looks like like a big junkyard. And they find, they uncover just a sea of bodies, like so many bodies. And they realize they've uncovered.

covered like a Bucks party. Bachelor party. Translation. Yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry, sorry. Good work, Sammy. There's a bunch of men on plastic chairs, all dead in a circle. There's one man sort of chained to a chair in the middle and he's also dead. And then there's a stripper on the ground and she's the one female in the room and she's also dead. And we'll see.

Or? Shagg, you kept saying and then awe afterwards. Sorry, you'd explain that everyone in the room's dead and we heard you. So they also find a bunch of cocaine on the table and I love Clay's character so much in this film. He's very prickly but like you can tell you

has a good heart. He does, he's got a good heart and he's got a good... I like the way he says things. So at one point he's like, do you fancy a bump? And then he's like starting the campaign and Ava's like, no, no, no, no, no. They find a working motorbike. Clay reveals he knows how to ride and, like, it looks sick.

Ava works out that they can get to the resort by riding through the back streets and ask him to ride her there. And so Peach does this thing in our friendship, and it's my favorite joke he does, and it pisses off a lot of people. So one of Peach's key jokes is to just say something that is not real,

and he doesn't believe, but say it really seriously. And just be like, yeah, this is, and then if people are like, Peach, are you joking? He takes that as like, no, I need to amp up this joke. So then he pushes it further and further and further. And like I said, it's gotten Peach into like some hilarious trouble. But I just want to say it's like, it's one of my favorite jokes. And this is probably why I like Clay, because Clay reminds me of Peach.

Because then she's like, can you drive me to this resort? He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You signed up to find your dead hubby. I'm here to make a difference. My country needs me. There's a pause. And then he goes, nah, I'm just fucking with you.

I'll go get the helmets. And it's like, it's a classic peach moment. Yeah, yeah. Sammy, were you? Like, I was actually, like, he got me. Did he get you in the film? Yeah, he got me as well, yeah.

Wow. I'm accepting the implicit compliment. Like, do you care for a bump? Fancy, do you fancy a bump? Fancy a bump. He's excited to ride the bike. so it's win-win. Before they leave,

they realize that the strippers come back to life and she's just looking at herself in the mirror, gnashing her teeth over and over again. It's really horrible. And there's like, you can like see pieces of her teeth breaking,

which also isn't the last movie we did bring her back? I was like so much teeth stuff with his spooko boys. I don't like teeth stuff. I mean, as I get older, I go to the dentist a lot. And I've, I've been chatting about this with people. What do you do when you're in the dentist

chair, what do you do? Are you able to watch? Are you able to look at the mirror? Like, what is your demeanor when you're in the dentist's chair? I think it's a dissociation. I've checked out. I keep my eyes open and I stare, but I'm like also looking at nothing. I'm just like looking inside my own mind being like, just get through this. Just a moment to moment.

My dentist has a poem like on a poster like blue text above it that's that I think Leonard Nimoy read and then like 19. 17 is called like the Desert Derrata, which is this like flower power, like version of cigarettes will kill you or whatever that, like that strange sort of mid-90s popular thing was. And I scan it for typos. It's all in this weird like title font. And I'm just like, I'm trying to edit this thing of like, nah, no, there's some poor like typographical choices made here.

So I just try to get into the detail. So I mean, I'm the, like the disassociate, what you just said about disassociation, that's so true. I realize that's exactly what I do. I try to think of the longest song I know. And then I almost like put it on in my head. And I start from the beginning and I go through the verses and I imagine the, like, and I'm just there trying to get through this really long song. But anyway, the reason I say that is because for some reason,

the dent is always like, okay, I'm going to get a mirror. I want you to look at your teeth here. And I'm like, I physically can't. I'm like, I don't know. You mind just getting back to work? I'm like, yeah. Yeah. It's like I don't like I'm happy to lose.

I can't look at. my mouth right now. I just refuse to. It horrifies me. I'm just like that. The world's longest song. But it's true because it's like horror. Like all fashions goes through

trends. And I think there's been a real trend in, you know, in the last decade of like eyeball horror and like what can we do with eyeballs. The teeth, teeth is untouched. Teeth is gross. Oh, there's tons of that stuff.

I feel like. Yeah, I always have teeth nightmares. Maybe I'm, yeah, projecting teeth stuff into my horror movies. But, yeah, it's like nails on a chalkboard type thing. There's like something about

the actual tooth material itself that's like really upsetting. I mean, bone, I guess is what it is. Mouth bones. Mouth bones. They're just a bunch of little exposed bones in our mouth. Ew.

I do love that element of like teeth are so hard that they can crunch up heaps of stuff. like other teeth and it's like, oh yeah, teeth are so hard they can crunch teeth and it's like, uh-huh,

uh-huh, like, come on following, can we run there one more time? So before they, as I said before, so they realized the strips come alive

she's standing in the mirror, she's gnashing her teeth and Ava comes up really close to her and she's like, can you hear? She doesn't seem to register like the zombie

doesn't seem to register anything and Clay's like, what the fuck, let's get out of here. They drive out of here. second needle drop I don't know if you guys are fans of Amel and the sniffers at all

I'm unfamiliar that is the name of the band that plays there they're an Australian punk band and I kind of like I don't know I'm on I'm in two minds and I like I'd love your thoughts on this

of like how prescriptive songs should be because this song very particular is like I want to go to the country I want to get like The last needle drop is also quite on the nose And the first one as well, the pursuit of happiness as well. You're like, ooh, go. Yeah, they are a little on the nose for sure.

Sammy, would these not be holding tracks that you'd send through, like, on your first cut? To then send to your music supervisor to be like, this is the sort of vibe we're going for. Can you send us something not as on the nose? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they ran out of time. Yeah. Come on.

Let's get this. Let's get this. We need a lock. We need to lock it. Lock it in. They drive down the highway, but they see like a Humvee coming towards them. So they get off the bike and hide behind an overturned car.

As they're hiding, they notice a one-arm zombie in a field next to them. And it's staying still. And then it slowly starts walking towards them. And we cut back to them and they look at it and they're like, what the fuck? But then it gets shot in the head and we realize it's been shot by one of the soldiers in the Humvee.

And they just keep driving. So they get back on the bike, the sky gets thicker with smoke, they stop at an ambulance looking for masks, more zombies are coming to life now. So at the start there are no zombies, but more and more we see zombies and we see signs of life. And the world starts to look red and hellish as they venture further south,

because below Hobart, it feels like Tasmania is on fire. They stop at another servo, she gives him a massage, but in a totally professional manner. I also want to give props to this film, Like, I know it's a low bar, but, like, there's nothing romantic between these two leads. Yeah. And they're both very attractive. They're both hot.

Like, that's, like, and you think if you're in an apocalypse and both of you are like, you know, even like, like, fives are up, you'd be like, maybe it's, maybe it's the apocalypse. Like, I don't know. Like, what else we got going on? Let's explore these houses. Yeah, yeah. Let's take a look around the bedrooms, am I? Right, yeah. She gives him her a massage.

We find out more about both of them. Her husband worked in renewable energy. He's a builder but goes quiet when she asks about his family. They're interrupted and cornered by a zombie. And they're just in this, and like this zombie is now threatening. And he looks angry. And he is walking towards them and he's overbearing. And then he gets shot from behind in the head by a soldier who says,

the longer they're gone, the more agitated they become. They start to lash out. The soldier asks what they're doing. I know, it's spooky, right? Okay, so this is a new character, this soldier. He asks what they're doing. They tell the truth, it's tenths. He asked them to come with them.

The soldier locks up Ava while he goes to take a statement from Clay, according to him. Flashback to Ava in the bath. Her and her husband were growing distant. She wakes up. Soldier returns without Clay. says he did a runner and... It's given bad vibes real quick. We're suspicious pretty quickly.

There's no other soldiers. And he tells her he knows what she's going through and that he'll give her safe passage to the resort. We'll just need to pick up a few things first or right. And it's now evening. They're driving... He's driving her in the pitch black Tasmanian wilderness in his four-wheel drive.

And I'm going to hand it over to Sammy. right now. Yeah. It's the scariest thing that's happened so far. It's really scary. Atriaku coming at, yeah. Yeah. He's, yeah, they're just

on a dark road and then he pulls into a place. It's like a bed of breakfast, but it's just like the only building for miles, it seems. She's absolutely in the middle of nowhere

with a man with a gun. And And he says, let's go inside. And she says, I thought we were just picking up some supplies. He's like, but it's been a long day. Like, let's go inside and eat. And I feel like I was a little confused on this. I feel like we pretty quickly find out.

Was it his house or he? It wasn't his house. So she notices a photo of him and his wife, which is weird that it's there. because I don't, oh, maybe it, I'm very confused as to whose house this is. Yeah. Yes, you're right. Actually, now that I think about it, it doesn't make sense. Has you set up residence there like recently, maybe?

Possibly. But let's not get too bogged down on it, I guess. It doesn't totally matter, but it was something that I moved in. I want to move a date. Well, doesn't there a song that's been like three months in a new house? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, she sees the photo of him and his wife. And this is, what is it, the fight, flighter fawn.

She's like, we're fawning. We're definitely like, we don't want to upset this man for any reason. And he, after they've eaten, asks if he can ask a favor of her. And we cut to her upstairs in a bedroom. she has changed outfits into a dress. And we see a wedding ring on the dresser. And we see her wedding ring on her finger. And she just leaves the other wedding ring on the dresser.

Riley is the soldier's name. Knocks on the door. She tells him he can come in. And she says, oh, I'm sorry. I can't remember what. Something's like not. She says, sorry, my hair's still a bit wet. Oh, my hair's a bit wet.

And he's like, well, she was a redhead anyway. So it's, you know, not going to be perfect. But he puts some... Oh, God. Oh, God. He puts some headphones in and approaches her for a dance. And she's very tense, but trying to play the part. He puts one of the earbuds in her ear to listen to the song that they're dancing to. he's holding on to her

like resting his head on her he's immediately like super emotional and crying and like I miss you and I'm sorry and to get into his headspace as well at the dinner table he reveals that she was weeks away from giving birth when this happened

and he has this really cool line where it's like cool line he has this very resident line where he says when people have a terminal illness, you have all that time to say goodbye. But the way this went down, the way the rug was just pulled, it was a special kind of cruel. So he's crying on her shoulder. And you can see she's getting a little swept up in the moment, not with him, but she's like

remembering her own dances with her husband and is having little flashes of remembering dancing with Mitch, her husband. And Riley's kind of like moving his way down her body and like kind of kissing her stomach. And we're seeing like through Riley's memory that he's remembering his pregnant wife's belly and it's like feeling it. And oh, because we're seeing that at Ava and Mitch's wedding, she at that time was pregnant as well, I think. because it's kind of cutting between the present moment and each of their kind of memories. And so there is a shot of Mitch holding Ava's stomach as well,

the belly and like and them looking excited. So we're assuming that maybe there was a miscarriage in their past as well. But as Riley is like holding her hands, he notices that she's not wearing the wedding ring. not wearing his wife's wedding ring and he stands up. He's like jolted out of the fantasy and is like, you're not wearing the ring. And she's like, I'm not going to take my wedding ring off. And he's like, no, but you ruined it.

You ruined it. You need to put the ring on and we need to do the song again. That didn't count. Like you ruined it. And he's getting pretty upset and starting to kind of approach her more threatening and so she grabs a lamp or something, smashes it over his head, is able to run past him into the room

across the hall, locks herself in there, and we hear him banging on the door like, no, no, no, you don't understand, and turn and see his dead pregnant wife in the bed surrounded by candles and photos, and he's yelling through the door that he thinks,

I think he says something at some point about how the ones that come back online or whatever they refer to it as are ones with unfinished business and he says he felt the baby kick and that the baby's like still coming. That's good madness. Like in fairness, this is fucking terrifying. This is a good thing.

I can't stress enough to you how much I was expecting in this film to be terrified by zombies. But this same, this middle section of the film is like horrible. Yep. Humans are the scariest thing. Man are the scariest thing. Man of the worst. We're sorry.

So she's obviously horrified by what she's seeing, but don't have a lot of time to process this. She quickly finds the window in the room and is able to walk or like climb out. She's on the second story, but she's able to like climb down a tree to get out of the room we're hearing Riley still banging on the door trying to get in there. But obviously, so he's like distracted for now, but he's going to figure out eventually that she's climbed out.

And so she's going to back to the entrance to the house, the front door to try to get the car keys to the truck. And as she walks in, he's coming down the stairs. and they lock eyes and both freeze. And she's kind of doing the mental calculations of if she's close enough to the keys to grab them. And she decides she's not. So she just turns and bolts, runs out of the house.

He's chasing her. She runs into a barn just outside and hides just in like some shelving units. She's crouched down in the dark. and we're hearing he's close by, he's yelling after her, and she turns to examine the surroundings. And there are a bunch of chained-up zombies and like a chalkboard that he's writing,

he had written stats down on, like, male, mid-30s, how many days. So he's like collecting data on the zombies, which like, you know, fair. Not the worst thing to be doing. I feel like it's, we're all pretty curious. What's going on with his?

Can a zombie sign an ethical release form, I guess, is one of the challenges. He'll, like, when he's submitting his research, it'll be something that is super... That'll be tricky. Yeah, yeah. But that's a later problem. It's probably worth noting as well.

It's like at this point, they all seem pretty aggressive. They don't seem... These ones that are chained up don't seem docile, and I think they're chained up for a reason. Yes, and he, I mean, he's like, again, she's doing calculations like, I don't have, he's going to find me, obviously, I'm in a barn and he's standing outside the barn about to come in. We see her look down at her wedding ring and she gets an idea. She takes off the wedding ring. We see her like, do something else too, but we don't quite catch it.

and she stands up in his line of sight. He's got like a flashlight. She like stands right up, stands facing him and goes, I can't find my ring. Like, honey, have you seen my ring anywhere? We need to find my ring so that we can do our, finish our dance. And he's like wide-eyed trying to figure out if he can like trust her to do this. He's tempted. He's tempted by this display.

but is also like, I don't know what to do. It kind of should be like just the wires in his brainer. Scramble him. Yeah, he's scrambled. But she's approaching him slowly, saying like we got to finish our dance. It'll be really nice when we do our dance, getting closer to him.

And he eventually decides, okay, and he like goes in for a hug. And she, we see, has tucked a screwdriver into her dress, pulls it out, stabs him in the neck. He collapses. She grabs the car keys off of his belt. We saw he grabbed them. And she gets in the car.

Headlights turn on. We see pregnant wife standing outside. She is. It's so good. It's so good. Can I pause? for a moment. Like that feels like the most male screenwriter, male director kind of horror film moment

that I can imagine. Like is that kind of where we are? It's Zachary Hilditch. And he's anuteur, right? He wrote the, he wrote the script. Like to me, that's a trope that I find pretty like fucking unfortunate in 2026. Just sort of. Like a pregnant wife?

Yeah. And then like, oh, don't worry, darling, like, I'll, you know, conform to these patriarchal ideas you've got and that'll be my route to safety and then trying to spin it to be like, ha-ha, but she used her feminine while. I was like, you know, Gina Davis did it. I actually don't think, like, I hear you, I don't think it's like that. I think, like, it is, to Sammy's point before, it's like, he's kind of crazy.

And she's like, can I appeal to his craziness? or at least throw him off by like getting into his fantasy. Because like when they're dancing, he's literally like speaking to his stomach being like, I'm so sorry. And like when she takes, when he realizes the ring's not there, it is actually like he's jolted out of a trance. He's like, oh, no, no, this isn't right.

This isn't correct. Like it's she is, she is, she is, it feels like, yeah, it doesn't feel gendered I would say, but then I'm also a dude. No, I agree. it feels like a realistic option when dealing with someone very unstable, I guess.

Yeah, fight or fawn as you say. I mean, yeah. But we need to talk about the fact that she turns on the headlights and the pregnant wife who we assumed was dead is now standing and not like this shot, like this was like a jump out of my seat moment. Like this is wild. Sorry, Sandy, continue.

Yeah, but she's not charging or anything. She's not seeming aggressive like the other ones, but I guess because she's just reanimated, and it seems like they get more aggressive as they go. Anyways, we're not sure. We're not sure how it all works. But then there's also another flashback right here or a memory of more things in her relationship with Mitch

where we're just seeing that they're in a big fight right before he leaves for the trip. And she's saying, like, can I at least drive you to the airport? And he's like, no, like, we'll talk one of them. I'm back. So finding out that they left things on a pretty sour note. Turning down a lift to the airport is pretty... I mean, yeah, it's pretty cool.

That's as bad as it gets. So she drives off. We see a little bit later in time, the car must have run out of gas at some point. Also, I appreciated seeing like all the cars are just like on the road. because everyone that was driving died. And so there's lots of, not lots of, but sporadic cars, which I'm thinking like you could kind of go car to car.

And all these cars are going to have some amount of gas in them. But anyways. Oh my God, that makes so much sense. Why aren't they doing that? Right. Like she kind of decides to go on foot, which I was like, the keys would be in there. The keys would be in all of the cars and they would all have gas in them. but

Or maybe they'd be running till empty yeah, I don't know Oh Oh yeah Yeah, I didn't think about that Yeah

That's true But they are looting They've already looted the cocaine Like wouldn't you be going through Looting every place you can For like whatever you can I think I would do something Other than just like

Walk on foot But Yeah I would try not I would try not to be walking She does see that It's 40 miles Which does feel like

semi-manageable in this scenario. It could be worse. It could be better. But she's come upon an axe. So she's just walking down the road, carrying an axe. She's changed into some clothes that she found in a suitcase so she doesn't have to wear Riley's zombie wife's dress anymore, which I appreciate it. So is it her life?

there's also a overhead like drone shot of a plane crash wreckage in the ocean. Again, I just appreciated all these little touches of like, oh yeah, I mean, everybody. It affected everything. So we get like a, yeah, more classic zombie chase scene in here as she's driving by or walking by some abandoned vehicles. a zombie chases her is really gnash in his teeth and there's a cool overhead shot of it chasing her through a bus. She immediately drops her axe. Oh, that piss me off so much.

So much. It's a real bummer. But he's crawling through this bus and she's crawling away from him. And I can't remember what she grabs. It's like a fire extinguisher or something. Yeah, it's either that or a drink bottle, but it's something large and red. Yeah, and she is able to smash it over his head, seemingly killing him.

She breathes a sigh of relief when he comes to again, and she has to hit him a couple more times before she actually kills him. And then she continues down the road until she comes to an RV like camper van, drags four bodies out of it. It's a mother and father and two children. And she is going to stay there for the night in the camper van. She has a scary nightmare where we're here in like the grinding teeth and like bones clicking in bed next to her.

But she wakes up. It's just a dream. There's nobody in there with her. But she does hear something outside, goes out to investigate and sees the father of this family has reanimated, come back online and is digging a grave. and she makes eye contact with him similar to the first one that she saw and there's like a moment of understanding

between them and he is not aggressive he gives her a look of I don't know like it's almost like if you saw a what could be a predator like a wild animal and just there to like he's like not interested in her and he looks at her sizes her up and then goes back to digging his

hole. And she grabs another shovel, I think, and she helps him dig. And they together put his family in the grave. And then he stands with

his back towards her inside the grave as well. And she, with the shovel, kills him and buries the family all together. It's like very very emotional and...

Even you just describing that back to me. It's so silly to say, but it's beautiful. I have never had a zombie film. I've definitely had horror films make me feel things, but I've never had a zombie film make me feel things the way this film made me feel things. Yeah. So she eventually makes it to the resort that she knows

her husband was staying at. It's a very, like, fancy resort. I mean, I guess resorts are in, that's, that's what resorts are. But it's lovely. Oh, no, but they're a resort and then there are resorts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Luckily, he was wearing a tinfoil hat at the time and protected him from the EMT.

Yes, exactly. She walks through the entryway and there's like a yoga class that was happening and everyone has died in child's pose. I just see how all these touches just every time I was like, oh, yeah, people would have died doing yoga. And that'd be a nice, like, you know, like you're pretty relaxed. And then that's one of the better ones. Yeah.

If you're ranking them. She finds Mitch's room and sees him collapsed at the foot of the bed. With another woman, like in the bathroom or in the bedroom. I had that thought too, actually. Oh, okay. And she's holding his hand and we're seeing his skin is like kind of rotting. It's not nice. But she's saying like, I'm here, I'm here.

And then she looks at the bedside table and you better believe it. two wine glasses there. Let's go. And yes, indeed, there is a woman in the bathroom, just as Pete predicted. Let's go. Wow.

I love it how we're all enjoying the gossip here. It's like, whoa, okay. Okay, this husband. And Ava it doesn't look like too scandalized by this actually. She finds the woman's name tag,

like they're co-workers, so they both have their little name tags for whatever conference they're at. And she likes nodding. And she's like, she was really pretty. But then she like sits back down with Mitch's corpse and is like, okay, I'm ready to talk now. Like, let's talk. I'm here. And then she's kind of like unraveling a bit and crying and yelling at him. And we're seeing like little flashes of memories.

And then we hear Eva. and she's like, oh my God, Mitch is like alive again. But then through the door comes Clay, who I was shocked, was alive. I was certain that Riley had killed him. And I don't think they ever say exactly what happened. I guess either he did do a runner or maybe Riley tied him up. Do they say?

So, yeah, I was trying to work this out because I was like, when I was going through this, I was like, yeah, what the fuck happened? off camera, you hear a conversation where he says to her, so how did you get away from that maniac? Oh. And that's all we get. Okay.

That is all we get. Yeah. But, oh, what a sight for sore eyes. We're happy to see Clay. Yeah, maybe Clay can get a wine glass. I'm like, yeah, let's, yeah. Yeah, we're in a bedroom. So I think they are drinking.

which absolutely fair. They have a moment where they're kind of saying all the things. So she's saying, you know, I cheated on it. We hadn't been able to have a baby. It felt like we were becoming strangers. It was really, really hard. And I cheated on him. And that was how we left things.

I thought if I could come back here, if I could find him, if I could find any form of him that I could like make it right. and Clay tells her that his wife and daughter don't speak to him and he came down here to try to seem like a hero and wanted to like show them his good character and that if they saw that he came down here they might be impressed and like want to speak to him again And he's like, it's so stupid.

And this is all like, it's not going to work. And they just get nice and drunk together. They're in a fancy resort with fancy pool. There's swimming. There's tons of alcohol. They're having a great time. A zombie wanders into the pool area, slow moving. And Ava's real drunk, but she gets up.

she grabs one of the liquor bottles or something and just starts smashing its head and like really going for it. We're seeing like a lot of pent up anger and emotions all being taken out on this zombie to the point where Clay's like, okay, Ava, like you did it. We're good.

You're good. And it does, it does really feel like every single horror film in 26 has a face smashing scene. Yeah, yeah, that's true. we cut to the next morning. They wake up. They were in bed together, but there's not an...

I don't think there's an implication of that they had sex. I don't think they did. Yeah, like they are clothed. They are... It feels like they're separate. Like, they're just pals who needed to, like, get drunk. Yes, yeah. Even though they are both hot.

So... They are both hot, so it kind of doesn't make sense, but... But they, today, today, she has decided she wants to do like a burial at sea for her husband. And so they've wrapped his body in the hotel sheets. And they're carrying him out to the shoreline where there's a boat, a small little rowboat that they're going to put him in. And as they're carrying him out, Clay vomits all over his, like the shrouds essentially.

which happens sometimes when you're really hung over and I always like it when a movie includes like a real gnarly hangover. I was going to say to move corpses around when heavily hungover on like neat liquor. Yeah. That'd be tough. Yeah.

That'll do it. Because no one's making cocktails. No one's pouring beers. Like this is... Right. Yeah. They're drinking a lot. straight liquor, yep.

Yeah. So they, but after that, they are still, they still get his body into the boat and push it out to sea. And then they're driving back.

So they found a car somewhere that had gas in it. I guess there would have been cars in the parking lot that weren't on at the time of the explosion. So they're driving back and they drive past the place that they were with Riley

and they see his wife in the middle of the road. She's standing in the middle of the road blocking them and we see she is seemingly given birth. Her nightgown is like very bloodied and Ava is trying to figure out how this is possible like what is happening and she's like stop the car. Clay is like wanting to just like drive around

and she's like, no, like, let me see. And I want to investigate this. And the zombie wife, again, kind of gives her a bit of a knowing look. While grinding her teeth. While really grinding her teeth. Oh, it's awful. And then turns and walks away. And we hear a baby crying in the distance.

and Ava books it, runs toward the sound, and finds a healthy baby, human, non-zombie baby. The placenta is really a miracle. There's a haves of alfoyle in there, yeah. And, yeah, picks up the baby. She's crying. Clay right behind her, we're looking shocked. but oh my god a baby we're saving this baby and then metric

needle drop help I'm alive starts playing literally the lyrics yeah that's that was the one where I was like hey this one's really pushing it one you get one on the nose needle drop if any you can't have three

and yet this this this is how the film ends and I was basically close to tears. I found that ending so surprising and so amazing. And yet I agree literally going like, help, I'm alive. Takes you right out of it. Anyway, yes, guys,

what did we think of we bury the dead? I thought it was really, I was realizing too, like I'm not used to a zombie film that doesn't involve some level of contagion as being part of it. Like the idea that these are zombies that they're not going to turn you into one. Right.

It's like such an interesting variation on the theme. That I don't know if I've ever seen that. Building on that, it allowed proximity to become a point in the plot, right? Yeah. Normally where like you're dancing with like scary, scary husband, soldiers. Yeah, got to get away. With your cheetah, husband, zombie. or you're picking up a baby who may, you know,

who in another universe would have had zombie illness themselves. Like I think one of the criticisms or one of the plot challenges I've got is that it's, I sort of felt like it became untethered. Like I was interested in each location that we left. I'm like, oh, okay, what's the bureaucracy? Like, what are we doing? We're going out each day and exploring, okay, what's going? Oh, okay, we're not doing that anymore.

Okay, now we're making friends and we're going on a journey to go find that. Okay, no, he's been kidding. Okay, all right. Now we're dealing with a soldier. Okay, no way. Like, it struck me that there were a lot of interesting ideas that kind of, none of them felt fully committed to. Like, it felt like, it felt very episodic versus sort of having the courage of its convictions

to be like, fuck yeah, we're talking about like how this recovery effort would be managed or like, hell yeah, like this is a let's get to the hotel film. Like, we got a mission and we're going to pursue. that mission and we're going to be heartbroken at the end when our great odyssey where we find our true love is actually cheating on us and then we're going to have a kind of poetic outcome for that. I, yeah, enjoyed it and I can imagine it being moving in the moment, but I can see we're finding it to be, what was the IMDB, Sammy? Like seeing where it being a kind of high to the bell curve experience of like, yeah, that was,

That was cool, I guess, can sort of come from. Yeah. Who is voting for things on IMDB though? Who, like, who are the people that, like, use IMDB as a voting place? I think men. It does seem to be, the things that score well, to me, are things that score well with young men. Right. So the dark night is.

But I don't know what the actual demographic is. Yeah, that's, yeah, exactly. I don't know how you become an IMDB voter or what that... Anyone can do it. I vote for things on IMDB sometimes just to throw the numbers off. Yeah.

What's the last thing you voted for on IMD? I don't know. It's been a while. I do it more for TV, even though it's the movie database. But I'll give episodes of television 10 stars if I really love and episode of TV.

That's fun. So what would you give this one, Sammy? Well, I did log it on Letterbox and I gave it a 3.5. Let's go. Let's go. Although it does break the one rule of ratings with no sevens allowed if it's a 3.5 stars. I've got a stick or twist.

I love that it's high to the bellcouver. Like, yeah, it was pretty good. Like, it was all right. It was pretty good. I will say, I will say, like, I think all the criticisms of It's very episodic. It can be slow. The needle drops are hilariously prescriptive.

I loved. And maybe this is just me projecting in the same way that Sammy's projecting her teeth fear into other films or what have you. I loved that this was a zombie film about grief. I don't think zombie films ever really talk about grief. And they talk about, you know, somebody said it. Who the fuck said it?

It was probably Joel who said this. Let's be honest. like tells those great things. So somebody once said that, you know, like grief is just love in the absence of the person, right? Like, that's all grief is. Imagine then you're dealing with grief and then that person comes back as a zombie. I don't think people have really thought about that enough. And I love that this film did that in a way that, like, genuinely made me tear up.

I forgot to bring up, but there's a movie called Handling the Undead. It's a Norwegian zombie film that also I feel like it, just reminded me of that a lot where it's like, maybe even more so, because it is like it does end up being like living with the zombie version of your loved one. And it's really, really sad and dark. But yeah, it is an interesting and cool spin on zombie stuff. Look, it's shocking that I wanted more rules and more bureaucracy so consistent with me. Sam and Emily, can we say big thanks for having us?

And thanks for having us. And thanks for having us. Only if, yes, only if we can say thanks as well. It's a crossover event. We've got to keep things crossing over. We love to do it. You guys are both sick cunts. Right back at you.

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Obviously. Emily, I think you should do it since you've... Please, please, M, please. Okay, okay. Shagg will do his California accent. Yes, perfect. But please. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Oh, it's so much pressure. From all of us here at Two Spooko didn't watch. Goodbye. It always gets harder. Goodbye. I did my best. Yeah, and for all of us at Two Spuco didn't watch. Nice.

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