Tooth & Claw: True Stories of Animal Attacks - Moto Lions

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Jeff leads another instant classic subscriber episode, this time about a strange period of time when motorcycles and lions were mixed to the great delight and sometimes horror of the audience. The guys then talk about their favorite motorcycle moments, what has made them cry most recently, and answer some listener questions. If you enjoy this episode, consider subscribing to us on Patreon or the Apple Grizclub, whichever is more convenient! They both have the same exclusive content, with over 60 hours of subscriber-only episodes just like this. ~~ To advertise on the show, contact us! ~~ Tooth & Claw is brought to you by QCODE. Support the show and get access to an extensive library of exclusive episodes like this by supporting the show on Patreon or joining the Grizzly Club on Apple Podcasts. For the latest updates on the show and all things wildlife, follow us at toothandclawpod.com and social:  Instagram: @ToothandClawPodcast Twitter: @ToothandClawPod Wes: @GrizKid Jeff: @jefe_larson Mike: @mikey3ds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, Toothies. It's Jeff. Mike's also here. Hey. So this is a Patreon episode or a subscription episode that we are putting on the main feed as we've done a few other times. And that's just to give you a taste of what it's like if you subscribe. And me and Mike do most of these episodes, so we have fun with it. But yeah, hope you like it. To the Tooth and claw podcast. You doing Jurassic Park again? Does that only work for the Jurassic Park episode?

I mean, it was a lot fun year on the Jurassic Park episode. Maybe we should redo it. Okay. Welcome to Tooth and Claw podcast. All right. I'm Jeff Larson. You are. We got Jeff, I'm Jeff.

We got Mike Smith and we got our biologist, West Larson. You guys all know us. This is subscription. Yeah. Somehow you're not tired of us yet. So thanks. This is the longest relationship we've ever been in. They're not going to be tired of us after this one either.

Really? This is a good one. Oh, he's coming hot out of the gates. Gassing himself up. Yeah. All right. I believe you. Me and Mike just got back from Colorado.

Colorado? What were you doing out there? Mining for gold. Is it a popular thing to do there? That used to be. Um, no, some, some, like, long-time listeners invited us to go whitewater rafting. And, like, I love looking through DMs and, like, comments from listeners. But, like, it gets a little, like, monotonous sometimes when it's, like, I know, I said that out.

It's like, um, kind of, like, videos you've seen before or questions you've heard before or something. Right. And then, like, I just saw one that was like, hey, do you want to come out to Colorado? and Whitewater raft with me, like with my company I work for. Yeah. I just kind of like skim past it. And then like two days later, I was like, wait a sec. He invited me to go like whitewater rafting down an awesome river in Colorado.

I like dug back through it and found him and messaged him. And we went out, me and Mike went out there. Wes, you were too cool? I wanted to. I was, I was busy. Unfortunately. You were busy. Yeah.

You're doing some cool stuff. Being cool. I was, but I would have much rather been whitewater rafting with you guys and your new friends. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. They're not even subscribers, so. Well, then never mind. We did give them.

We gave them some money so that they would subscribe, though. Yeah, cool. They didn't want us to like tip them and we're like, we'll just buy a subscription. Nice. That's just us. That's just us feeding ourselves. Cool. That's fun.

You know, we got a lot of cool listeners out there, and that's neat that someone got to involve you in their passion, and you guys got to see a new part of the country in the process. So if anyone else wants to do something cool with us, let us know. Yeah. But don't be, don't be offended if we don't go to every one of your guy's suggestion either. Or if Wes doesn't go to any of them. He has a bad track record now. O for one. Speaking of cool listeners, I also got someone watching One Piece now,

which, you know, makes this whole thing worth it so far. That's better than your brother did even. Well, I tried. You watched a lot. Yeah. I did. I just don't know how you didn't like it. Yeah, I did like it.

It's just that I, it's a monumental amount of media to consume. But you could read it if you liked it. I am tempted to read it. I am tempted to read it. It's mostly just that I like, I like. sometimes I feel like I'm not part of the gang when it comes to that, you know? Oh, yeah. And that's hard for me because you guys know so much.

But I, at least I watched 100 episodes. Yeah, you get some of it. And you guys wanted me to watch like 10. And I went above and beyond. But you made it. Well, we wanted you to do that, though, because we didn't think is possible to not keep watching if you got there. Yeah. I will say, though, I think you guys had the benefit of watching it together and kind of having

that shared experience. And I was like, just trying. We were like tickling each other and wrestling around. Because I did watch. I'll come up to your house and we'll start it again. I'll keep watching it from where I left off. The couple episodes. Let's not watch it together.

The couple episodes that I watched with you guys, I had a much better time. Mike, I always forget, was Foxy in One Piece your favorite arc or your least favorite? You know what? That's such a hard question because it's kind of. girl in on you? It's like when he shoots the Davey back pistol in the air after they finally won like a whole grueling competition. It's one of the funniest moments.

It's one of the best jokes I've ever. What was your favorite part of their competition with Foxy? Luffy's Afro when he puts the Afro on and all like Zorro and Sanji are like, funky. Steve Funkie. I was trying to set up a segue into my story because they also have a roll. Skating Competition. That was by far my favorite competition.

So what if I told you guys that they used to race motorcycles on like steep wooden oval tracks? When would you guess that that started? When would I guess it started? Yeah. 1935. Mike? Yeah.

Like 1912. That's pretty close. They started racing motorcycles on. on like wooden tracks in 1909. Wow. Which just seems like way too early to me. Yeah, that does. Wood seems like a terrible surface.

Yeah. I'm going to send you guys a picture here in a sec of what it looked like because I would, I'm just going to get like some live reactions from you guys because there's some crazy pictures out there. Okay. But the first motorcycle was invented in 1985. Wes, what else happened that year? 1985 that's the 18 1885 or sorry I wrote the year but Montana became a state nice job

dude I didn't even have anything in mind I was just well I don't know actually I'm just guessing hold up no that was 89 I actually know that that was 19 or 1889 yeah I thought I thought it was going to be something I was supposed to know so that's why I guess that I don't know what happened 1885 yeah no idea Harley Davidson and india and motorcycles at the start of the 20th century, started making better quality motorcycles than the first invention, obviously. And right when they started doing that, humans started racing them.

Why do you think we do that? It's fun. Competition is fun. Just see who can go the fastest. Yeah. This is kind of the first time, too, that we've, like, at this point in history, this was the first time that people have ever been the fast.

animals in the world. Yeah, that's true. There's always something faster than us. Yeah, they're going faster than cheetahs at this point. Like, we're top dog with that. And with great power comes great responsibility. That's true. I've heard that somewhere.

I don't know, dude. Uncle Ben died, so how wise could he have been? Yeah, he's not that smart. And he was trying to stop that guy when he should have just let him buy. Exactly. Who cares if somebody's a great point, actually. Like, just let that guy go. Yeah, he probably needed that money more than Peter.

But that doesn't mean he can't have said one smart thing. Yeah, sure. It's all or nothing for me. So these new bikes are going close to 100 miles per hour. Wow. Which is just so fast for 1909. Like, I had no idea that they were getting down like that back then. I wonder how they measured it.

Then probably just, like, counted. That's a good point. Maths? Yeah, like math. As British people would say. They did their maths They had a cheetah And then saw how much faster than the cheetah was

Just compared it directly to a cheetah So the racetracks that they built They're expensive wooden tracks Lumber was really expensive back then Because it took those dorks The same amount of time to cut one tree As it does us to cut a forest now Yeah, we're good at cutting trees now

So I'm going to send you a picture of these tracks that they were constructing for motorcycle racing. Did they not have dirt back then? They did, but this made them go faster because they made it like so vertical. And like the centrifugal force kept them on it. They're almost like sideways on some of those things. Tell the audience what you're seeing. It kind of, it looks like something you would see more in like a circus or something.

Like the wooden racetrack like bends up into the air. It looks like a half pipe. Close to like 70 degrees high at the turns. It looks exactly like the velodrome, like the indoor bike competitions in the Olympics, you know, when they're like inside on those big wooden tracks. I've always liked that event. It's super weird. Yeah. Well, this is the origin story.

Can you imagine going? Actually, maybe. Like completely sideways almost at 100 miles an hour. The motorcycle also just looks like a bicycle. with like a huge engine. It's just like a bicycle with like a big old motor. Yeah, it's crazy.

It doesn't look stable at all. So these wooden tracks varied from like half a mile to two miles long and popped up throughout the states. So between 1910, which was when the first one was built, in 1931, I want you guys to name three locations

that you think they popped up at before you get three strikes. And if you mess up, you have to pierce your ears. Okay. I would like it. Shoot. I got to start taking this serious.

Are we guessing states or cities? Cities. Indianapolis. That was my first guest, too. That's a strike. That was Mike's first guess. Yeah. There's 24 locations here.

Mike, go ahead. Chicago? Yeah, you got one. New York City. You know, I'm going to count Brooklyn for you. Thank you. Um, Mike? Phoenix?

Bad guess. That's a, that's a strike. Bad guess. Was Arizona even like, ah, whatever. That's a good point. I don't know. Detroit. That's strike.

What? Geez. Atlanta? Strike. So you wrote that two strikes. I'm going to say, Atlantic City. You're getting your ear. pierced.

Shoot. Minneapolis. I'm going to do my nose instead. That's a strike. Where the hell are they building these tracks? Yeah, I'm doing a lip piercing. Tom DeLong. A lot of California, Fresno, Beverly Hills, Omaha, you got Miami, you got Kansas City.

Sorry, guys. I've heard of those places. It was a little harder than I thought it'd be. Maybe you don't have to pierce your. So between the two of us, we got what, two? Two, right? Yeah. That's pretty bad.

And mine was like, Jeff had to give it to me. Yeah. One of the ones I was hoping you'd say is anywhere in Philadelphia because there's one that just says unknown Philadelphia. Or wait, no, it says Union Town. My bad. I thought I said I don't know. Easy mistake to make. This episode is brought to you by Netflix.

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And the sports getting popular because of how dangerous it was getting. Would you guys like sports now more if there's a 5% chance of death? Oh, yeah. Every time you watched it. Yeah, yeah. I kind of think I would do. It's a little barbaric, but it's like, that's, it'd be in. entertaining.

It's kind of human nature historically proven to be like in our nature to like that stuff. Yeah, like Colisean and stuff. The Romans was like a 100% chance that someone was going to die. Five percent's like I would just say like sometimes even. Five percent's made up by me too, but it seemed about where it would be. So part of what made this so dangerous is their outfits. So they're wearing leather helmets, a wools of. sweater, leather gaiters, and crashes just gave them like the worst splinters ever,

like hospital-worthy splinters because they're on like a wood. Oh, that's awful. So. There will sweaters. Now we're going to protect them enough from splinters. They didn't, no. So now we're going to focus on this racer named Eddie Hasha. Okay.

And just think of him as a real early day Dominic Torado. All right. That's easy enough to be perfect. May 1911, Hasha at 20 years old attained a speed of 95 miles per hour, that's 153 kilometers per hour, at the Pliadal Ray, California Motor Dome, setting a record for the mile, a world record for the mile. In 1912, Hasha beat all of the established stars at the Los Angeles Motor Dome and set professional records in the process. So this guy's like an up-and-coming dude. just putting all these, like, well-known guys.

To shame. He's beating everyone, you know? Yeah. And what's Darwin and Brian O'Connor's number one rule on racing? Don't use your Noss until later. I don't remember. Is that it? You got to save your Noss.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Well, they don't have Noss. These guys don't? They also don't have brakes. Okay.

So he's just going full set. Yep. So he takes a little break, goes to Houston, and actually works on bikes with Davis from Harley and Davidson. And then like, yeah, Davidson. And then he got back to racing. Huh. And he goes out and competes at the Newark Metterdome in New York, Newark, New Jersey on September 8. I kid you not.

Newark was going to be my next guess. I really wanted to guess that Jersey plays. Yeah. In 1912 in front of 5,000 spectators. So they have this big feature event, and afterwards they have a smaller five-mile handicap race. Okay. Now, I know what you guys are thinking, and when I say handicapped race, what that really

means is that it's him and this guy named Ray Seymour, this Ray Seymour guy had the world record for like fastest overall time. Okay. Like, there's a lot of world records, you know. But this guy's like the fastest. So him and Eddie are like super fast and they're giving the other three racers a whole lap head start. Okay. So that's what that means.

Yeah. That's honestly what I would have thought. I wouldn't have thought anything else. You didn't think that meant wheelchair racing? No, I didn't. No. Okay. So the race starts and Hasha has a slight lead at the end of the first lap.

He keeps his lead and he's going into the third lap when the motorcycle starts to misfire. So what would you do, Wes, if you're like in this race against like the world record holder, you think you're the fastest in your motorcycles misfiring a bit. Well, this happened to what's Paul Walker's character's name? Brian O'Connor. This happened to Brian O'Connor. And I'd just push it, man. Blow the gaskets?

Yeah, you got to blow those gaskets. You got to go for it. You don't have breaks, it sounds like, so you don't have a lot of options. There's not a lot of options. But, Jeff, let me tell you a little something about me. I live my life a quarter mile at a time. And I would definitely finish this race. Well, Eddie has the same mindset and does something, in my opinion, even crazier than just gunning it.

And reaches his hand down to make an adjustment. Oh, geez. And gets overtaken by the Seymour guy. Huh. So he's just like trying to. to fix his bike while he's going like 90 miles per hour on this wooding course and once he gets past eddie's like oh shit i can't lose so he just floors it again and the bike's misfiring but he floors it picks up enough speed to get close and then traveling at 92 miles an hour

the motorcycle suddenly turned sharply into the rail that's surrounding the track that's not good and the bike rode the rail for 100 feet wow right Yeah, so pretty sweet. He rode the rail, right, Mike? Yeah. I mean, he might not win the race, but style points is out of control. That sounds like a trap question. A boy had his head leaning over the rail and was killed instantly.

Still cool, Mike? Can I amend my previous statement real quick? Mike, you're such a dick. Come on. Such an insane way to die. Yeah, it is. Just like have your head. on the rail that the motorcycle like grinds on at a hundred miles an hour.

Yeah. You shouldn't put your head on the side of a rail of a motorcycle, a wooden motorcycle track. If you do, you got out on those leather helmets. You're right, but like, I have no idea. He wasn't long for this world. So Eddie flew out of the racing arena into the grandstands and was killed instantly. Jeez. Watch.

We're going to get, like, our first complaint, some listeners going to be like, that was my great, great, great grandpa. Yeah. Who was decapitated by that. This was the 19th. The little boy was their great grandfather? Getting after it early. And they're going to be so mad at it.

1912, I feel like we're doing. That little boy had it. How many kids you think he had was? Good point. I stole it for Mike, but yeah, thank you. So three other boys and a young man, which I don't know what that, how different the ages are there, were also killed.

So that took out so many people for one motorcycle. Then the motorcycle dropped back into the racing surface, into the path of last place rider Johnny Albright. The motorcycle hid him in the shoulder, and he slid down the track and died a few hours later, never regaining consciousness. Oh, my gosh. So there's one motorcycle crash killed seven people.

That's insane. Yeah. And especially when you assume that, like, when you look at it and it's such a small motorcycle, you know? Yeah, but like, for the racers, it makes sense because, like, they're going so fast and they have a freaking leather helmet. Right. Yeah. And a kid leaning his head over. I don't know what happened to those other kids.

For me, though, it's like, yeah, exactly. Like, if a Formula One car. blows up and flies into the crowd, I would expect, you know, seven people to die or whatever. But for like a little like 120 pound bike or however this thing weighs to like kill,

to kill that many people, like were they just lined up with their heads on the railing? Did you just pop on a bunch of heads? A bunch more spectators got hurt with like broken bones and flesh wounds. But a lot of that was just from the panic. Yeah. And then like trampling each other and stuff. This isn't funny, but I just can't help but see this is like an old Buster Keaton movie where it's like the little silent film caption comes up and it's like, oh no, seven people died.

Like how does the news broadcasts? Oh, no, decapitation. Yeah. Motor Dromes is what like the race venues are called. They're now nicknamed Murder Domes, which is pretty sweet. Much cooler name. Yeah. That's cool.

And a lot of the fan favorite racers also end up dying. So like just like people be I mean pretty quick though I don't have all the dates written down But it is like in the span of a decade that like Wow These guys were getting popular and just dying Wow Because like they're going so fast in any crash

They just don't have any protection for that speed Yeah So the sport kind of takes on new variations to make it safer Loses a lot of popularity when like I mean imagine like being a huge fan of Steph Curry and he just like gets killed on a layup and then you're a huge fan of Anthony Edwards and he gets killed on the layup and it's just like okay I'm like done how much longer can I invest in this sport right so like they start testing new ideas and they make a really small

motor drone with like giant vertical walls and these walls are like 80 degrees to like they look vertical to me yeah so that's kind of their idea to like mix it up but make it a little bit safer right and I'm going to send you a picture of these new walls oh yeah now it does look like a circus act to me it looks like yeah like the balls that they ride around and then the circus and stuff but what's crazy is they're still just using those bicycles with like a little motor on them yeah it is uh basically it's like a 40 degree wood thing leads up to like an 85 degree huge wood wall and you just have to go in a circle until you can get up on the wall.

And we'll share all these pictures on Instagram. This will be like a really good Instagram post because there's some crazy pictures. But things get old fast, right? Like Dan Cook, Tosh.0, tooth and claw, inevitably. Yeah. It didn't take long for those first two to get old. Like for me, one minute of each. So they had to spice things up.

So why don't you guys give me some ideas? How do you think they could spice it? It's nice it up. Light them on fire. Oh, that's good. Like weapons, like in, what's that video game? Road rash, road rage. Twisted metal. Or you have, like, crow bars and you can hit each other.

Yeah. Fill the middle part up and put a great white shark in it. Oh, there you go. So, like, you got to make it dangerous again, right? Yeah, more dangerous. So what they did was start having two cars go in it at the same time, right? then they put two cars going in in opposite directions at the same time. You're still talking motorcycles, right?

Not cars? Or are there cars now? These are motorcycles, but they're like kind of like the hugest ones you see now. They're kind of look like the Batmobile or something with like, I don't know. They're thick. And I feel like they kind of have four wheels a lot of that time. Some of them are just the same. bicycle-looking ones.

But then they also have... They also have cars that... Like, it is like a car that... Like, they're putting all sorts of stuff on. And these two people went in cars, and they went in, like, the opposite direction and hit each other and both died. Oh, geez.

So that made it... Really could have seen that one coming. They're like, okay, we did it. It's dangerous again. Yeah, so two cars going at each other. Lions? Lions? Lions?

Hold on. Wait. Rewind. So now it's called the Wall of Death or Race for Life. With no context, would you rather go to Murder Dome, Race for Life, or the Wall of Death?

Wall of Death, for me. Murder Dome for me. Race for life, I would think. I would think Race for Life is like... It sounds like a fun. Charity or something. Yeah. I wouldn't think it's like

someone's going to die. Murder Dome, someone's dying. Murder Dome. Yeah. I'm going to murder dome. Or I'm getting my money back. So the performers had lions that, like, at this time in the world, were just taken from the jungle a lot of the time

and put them in the dome to try to pull them down from the wall as they're going around on bicycles around this wall. That is insane. Very unethical, but I also got to give them props for thinking of the most entertaining idea. Yeah. This is just, like, devolving, to the Roman Coliseum, but with motor cycles.

Think like laser from American gladiators just pulling contestants off the climbing wall. It's a lion that will kill them. So did they have like, if the lion got someone, did they try and stop it from killing them? I don't know. Yeah. So here's two more pictures with a lion included now. And one of them you can see, it's like a little like, motor car thing with a lion riding on it.

That's pretty cool. What the heck? And the other one just has a lion where it's on a platform where it can try to like reach for the guy. The one with the lion riding in it. It's like a car that has a little sidecar and there's like a male lion sitting in the sidecar. And then a dude right behind them in a motorcycle that just has to be so scared. Yeah, I think I think that's the wife. It was actually like, especially for circus performing is like a lot of women doing this stuff.

Yeah. But yeah. I'm looking at the faces of the spectators in some of these pictures and they're just like, they're not overly enthusiastic. They're probably just waiting for one of these people to get pulling off, right? This is the, yeah, these are the faces of people that have gone to this like three or four times and no one's died yet. Yeah. Well, let's talk about this guy who's riding a car on a very, very extremely extremely.

steep wall with a lion riding shotgun. So his name is Fearless Egbert. Great name. And his male lion is monarch. And Wes, I'm going to turn it over to you to read a few paragraphs because I get all messed up when I do it. I got it right here. This is from like the, or do you want to read where it's from in the year too?

Yeah. So this is a news article from the Yorkshire Evening Post on September 24th, 19th. It is remarkable how even lions can become civilized. Three years ago, Monarch, the lion that will ride on a baby car around a wall at Woodhouse feast, has never seen a motor car. His grandfather roamed the jungle and his father was captured and trained to ride a horse in an American circus. Then just over three years ago, Marnark came along, and, on seeing a baby car which is driven

by Fearless Egbert, round the wall of death, clambered into it. When he was given a ride, he enjoyed it so much he refused to get out. Obviously he was destined for a motoring career, and going one better than a mere rider of horses, Monarch was gradually introduced to the thrills in a car around a vertical wall. A ledge was fixed to the side of the car, and there was never any need to coax him to sit on it. He hopped aboard as soon as he was released from his cage and snarled and growled if the driver had any difficulty in starting. That'd be really scary if you're like trying to start the car and the lion's getting pissed at you.

Yeah. All right. A lot of pressure. Yeah. Nowadays, Monarch is driven around the miniature track at speeds that would make his more sedate father gasp. Also very funny visual there. If Fearless Egbert stops the car too soon, the young lion remains on the car. There are times, however, when he gets a little bored and the driver knows it's time to stop when he realizes that Monarch's head is very close to his face. Like all good people, occupy the limelight, he's rather sensitive about the way the show should be run. Fearless Egbert is the only driver who is allowed to take the wheel when Monarch is a woman. about, attempts by others arouse only growls, and monarch's tail whisks like a whip. What is more, he's troubled like other stars about his weight. Monarch could sit comfort on the ledge when he joined the show, but since then his cage has twice had to be enlarged.

Now he weighs about 350 pounds, and he has to park part of himself on the bonnet of the car. Still, an attempt is being made to keep his weight down. On Sundays, he dispenses with beef for dinner and has milk and eggs. It's such a good Like what a time to be alive I know it really is Just ignore the whole great depression part And it's great

They got horses or lions riding horses Lions riding cars They don't know how morally Wrong it all is Yeah it's so crazy to me That this lion was like that into it though That he just like wanted to go I just can't imagine it had a great life

Outside of doing that Yeah Yeah. So then it's like, this seems fun. Yeah. Yeah, probably. But who knows? But yeah, shout out Monarch, you know, if you're still out there.

Yeah, shout out. How long do lions live? Probably. Not that long. He's not around still. All right. So a few other notable lions and their owners. So, you know, like with all great things, tooth and claw podcast, once you have a great

idea, there's copies. Cats. Oh, yeah. You know? Oh, yeah. So here's one of the copycats. The lion's name is Britton the Lion, and the owner is George Tornado Smith. Ooh.

Any relation, Mike? Mike, I would like you a lot more if you went by Mike Tornado. I kind of feel like the onus is on you guys to kind of like make the nickname. Gave you a nickname. All right. We'll give you one. Maybe I just did. I can't call myself the tornado.

That's lame. That's what everyone does when they do that. They're lame. All right. We'll call you tornado. All right. So the tornado, George, when he was 14, he was pretty bad student, but he was really good at racing box cars. And he started seeing these mododrome races.

Motodrome races. And, like, just was like, that's my destiny. And he eventually, like, worked his way up to. getting his own performance. And then at that time, you just kind of go and buy a lion if you want one. So he bought a lion. I love that that's like, you just go to like the lion store and buy your lion at your little car. Maybe get like a secondhand one at the thrift shop.

Right. He starts putting on shows in London. He married his wife Doris Craven at a show and brought her into his act. She's a pretty lady. He was handsome. and had a sweet pencil mustache. Nice. There's some great pictures of him and his wife with the pet lion just like at their dinner

table with him. He'd take Britain on daily walks through towns in London and not London, but in England and would go to the beach. But then it gets really sad because World War II happened and they got super poor and couldn't afford enough meat for Britain and ended up. up shooting. Jeez. Oh, man.

And then he had to go and try to be a pilot but had bad eyesight. So he joined the Navy and got divorced. You know, we've heard this story too many times in those war-torn days. A lot of people didn't learn from his mistakes. No longer afford their lions and they have to put them down. And then they get divorced because their wife was only in it for the lion. Yep. We lost a lot of good lions.

back then. All right. Here's another story. Now this is where it gets real tooth and claw. All right. I was waiting for that. You haven't been having fun? No, I've been having a great time.

This is an amazing story. In 1938, Tuffy the Lion and his co-owner, I said co-owner because it talked about his wife and I didn't want to leave her out, but never gave her name. Okay. But co-owner Joseph Dobbish, who's a bad guy, but a total hot, he admittedly, when he's look at his pictures.

He's a hot guy. Yeah. And his wife set up shop at Wildwood, New Jersey. And these tracks don't count in those ones I was listing because they're just like really small circles, right? Okay. They're not like huge. They're like circus tracks. Right.

So these are like more widespread. It's like what Ryan Gosling went in. Kind of the ball of. Yeah, whatever. And they, I saw on Reddit yesterday, like, people just driving cars in one of them. So, like, they're still out there. Cool. So Tuffy's a 300-pound lion.

That's pretty big lion. Yeah, that's nothing to sneeze at. Yeah. Unless you're allergic to lions. Joseph and his wife did a lot of performances with Tuffy. And then the season ended, and they put Tuffy in his cage alone. living what I can only imagine was a pretty miserable life. Why are you guys laughing?

My stupid joke. I didn't even catch it. It was the dumbest joke. That's my favorite joke we've ever made. Oh my gosh. Such a dumb joke. All right. The allergic joke.

I missed it. It was the allergic one. It was stupid. I'm sorry. Continue. All right. You guys lost it. I'm excited for the re-listen.

Okay, so they stuffed Tuffy back in his cage. Miserable life, like all he's ever looking forward to now is just waiting for his next meal, right? Right. And on October 5th, Joseph opened the cage and Tuffy decided he was ready for something new in his life. So he hopped right out of that cage and took the opportunity for freedom, just like our pet parrot, Lewis, when my dad walked outside with him on his shoulder. Which was, we always wondered what he would do, and turns out he'll just fly away and never come back. So now Joseph has a loose lion in town of, what's the town called again? Wildwood, New Jersey.

Not a good place for lion to be. Not their natural habitat. But he decided that the public and the police should not be immediately notified and that he foolishly thought he could handle the situation by himself. After an hour of looking for the line, he reconsidered, but it ended up being too late of a decision for one Thomas Seattle. That doesn't sound good. Thomas Seattle was a Japanese immigrant trying his best to make it through the Great Depression. That evening, he was walking alongside his boss's nine-year-old son, Masami Woshi, on their way home from a fishing trip. It's crazy to me again how all...

this is going on, like, straight in the middle of the Great Depression, too. Right. Like, you're just, like, trying to make ends meet, working so hard just to, like, put food on the table. You're walking home, like, from work, just trying to feed your kids, and you get attacked by a f*** lion. So, yeah, at this time, Tuffy's prowling the streets and feeling extra hungry having decided he was done eating meals pushed through the bars of his cage by his former master Joe. Yeah. The sun is setting. after a peaceful day on the water and Thomas is about to help Masami get into his car, when to his complete and utter shock there's a giant lion looking at him.

I imagine licking its lips or something. Yeah, maybe. Sure. It's a great flare that you added to this. That's what I imagine. It's hard to think of a more terrifying, intimidating situation than like, like, I stare at a zoo and I like start to feel baited. I'm just like, this thing is so intimidating. It, like, freaks me out after a little bit. Well, especially, like, back then, they didn't have, the only access they had to information

about stuff like lions and whatnot were, like, a few books that they'd maybe read, you know? Yeah, that's a good point. And, like, they don't know anything about their behavior. They've never, like, seen movies of them or anything before. Like, this is... I mean, it's not a huge town, though, and they do have a lion show, so I imagine most of the town kind of knows about this guy in his line. Yeah, but if you're like, maybe like in the Great Depression and you're like a hardworking

immigrant, like you might not ever have the money to go to one of those shows. Like, this, this might look like a literal monster to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I imagine it's probably how the gorilla would have felt if Mike Tyson walked in its cage to punch it that way. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, I don't think that gorilla would have been that scared. But. Well, Thomas thinking quick on his feet, shove masson. me into the car and then what I think is extremely heroic but honestly also a little bit stupid he shut the door to ensure Masami's safety yeah and thus also ensuring his death that is very heroic oh yeah but I kind of feel like just try to get in the car too dude yeah but what if he doesn't and then the lion pulls out a little Masami too yeah you know but I gave him credit for being heroic but that's that's my stance i'm sticking to just jump in there with him all right if you can

push a little kid in there you can hop in real quick too fair enough so like the cranky people in the snickers commercials this train lion was not acting like himself yeah and he mauled thomas in the middle of the street to satisfy his hunger geez so that's uh good lord that i just had to throw the Snickers comparison in there. All right. I think maybe, though. This one happened like a hundred years ago. The lion for once in his life was finally maybe acting like himself, you know?

Yeah, this sounds like pretty typical lion behavior. Yeah. So it's like the opposite anti-snickers commercial, if anyone's looking for ideas. So Tuffy then took the corpse to a nearby boardwalk just further widening the range of terror and nightmares of the city of Wildwood by, you know. Yeah, carrying it dead body. Yeah. Police arrived at the scene, and they put on their Sherlock Holmes hats and saw a partially eaten body with a huge trail of blood leading to a huge nearby lion also covered in a tut of blood.

Yeah. And they were like, huh. One of the officers shot at the lion and wounded it, but did not kill him, and Tuffy ran away. So real small, tiny aside here. In pop culture of people who never miss, who are you trusting with your life to not miss? For me, it'd be like, I don't know. I'll start. I'll go with Billy the Kid, Leonardo DiCaprio and Quicken the Dead.

Okay. He's just a good shot. Even though I hate this movie, I'd go with like the first suicide movie, Will Smith's character, because that's like the one thing. Bullseye. Yeah, he just doesn't miss. Or you could have gone Colin Farrell and the Daredevil, Betn Affleck. Yeah.

And I know Idriselba's character in the next Suicide Squad was kind of similar. So anyway, but I'm going to go with the Will Smith one. Sure. I'm going with the Caroco's basketball guy that never misses a shot. In that anime, that's a good one. Yeah. He wasn't bullseye, was he? He wasn't he dead shot or something?

Oh, yeah. Bullseye was, Colin Farrow was bullseye. Yeah. Also, Doc Holiday would have been a good one. I thought Bullseye was that bowl on the barbecue sauce. Yeah, there's lots of bullsies out there. Sure. So, why did I bring that up?

Well, the sheriff of the town was called Crackshot. Okay. And never missed a single shot pretty much, probably. But also had never faced off with a lion. Was that on his logo? Like, I've never missed a single shot pretty much, probably. Yeah. So Crackshot tracks down Tuffy and Tuff leaps at him to kill him, but Crackshot never misses and put a bullet straight between the eyes.

Wow. Dropping Tuffy down with one shot. Good for him. And thus building his reputation is Crackshot. Yeah, he earned it. Yep. So that's, that's it. That's the story of the death of Thomas Sieto.

And, you know, it might have been a little dumb to not jump in the car too. But also, you died a hero. And most of us don't die heroes. So, like, good job to you, man. That was cool. Yeah. He's probably tired of going home to eat, like, dust and, like, water poured on it. Yeah.

That's a good point. A couple more tidbits before categories. Okay. So there's a season rider in the lion's drum circuit named Marjorie Kemp, who is seriously mauled on at least four separate occasions. God. And her last attack in 1940 put her in the hospital for over a year. So that's pretty bad. Do you think she was just like limping into her editor and just being like, please give me a new assignment?

Can I please cover her? I mean, gets an office job. And then she's like, I can't take this. I'm going back to the line. This is like the only job she could get during the Great Depression. She's like, it's honest work. It's put it on the table. One of those people calling out names for like jobs that they have that day.

They have like no idea. Right, down at the docks. Lucy, I'm looking at you. Okay, I'll take it, whatever. In 1964, a drunken carnival worker stuck his hand into a lion cage and was bitten by a male lion named King. This ended the lion-drome era for good. That's what did it?

Yeah. A drunken dude gets his hand, but often then they're like, that's enough. That's from Ripley's, believe it or not, so I don't know. Cancel court culture in the 1960s, I would just love to hear, like, I'm an American and it's my right to have a lion in my motorcycle stunt. Yeah. There's probably people Once they take their lions away

That's pretty much what Joe Exotic was saying Yeah All right Well do you guys have any questions for me I have a million questions About motor drones I'm gonna have to look into this You know I

I have more research than it's in the episode So if you want to hit me with anything Take your shot No I think I'm good But I am going to read up on this Because it is fascinating And Mike ask me a question

I don't know. Okay, sorry. I don't know why I'm apologizing, but... I'm just kidding. Are there, like, underground murder drums still operating, you think? It seems like the kind of thing that could... It's not underground, but like I was saying, like in India, they have them. I didn't see anything about involving lions, though.

Okay, yeah, that was my main... But, like, I could see that happening. And like Russia still has the crazy circus animal stunts and stuff. So I wouldn't be surprised if they have something similar to that there. Right. Anything else? No. All right.

Let's go into categories. So let's do craziest pop culture motorcycle moment. Okay, I got one. And it really is just like right on par with this story. It couldn't better fit. There's an early Simpsons episode. where they go to like a monster truck rally or something. And then at the end there's this stunt man named Lance Murdoch

who does the stunt and he's going to jump this huge pool. But before he jumps it, they put like a great white shark, an electric eels, piranhas, and an African lion in the pool. Yeah. And everyone's like closing their eyes except for Bart and he clears it. And then he like goes as he takes his bike back up to the edge. to like wave to the audience and when he does he like tips in and you see like everything attacking him and then he's about to like crawl out and the African lion like jumps out of the water

and grabs him and pulls him back in and then he like such a great joke they like fish him out and like carry him away on a stretcher and he like feebly puts his thumb up and they're like he's okay folks and that's my that's my answer that's very that's very on par with this story it is thanks I forget the dude's name is the guy at the X games the did the first backflip on his motorbike. It was like Corey Hart or something like that. Yeah. And I remember me and my friends were so excited, like, the whole week leading up,

because, like, we heard whispers, this dude was finally going to do it. And, like, he didn't even really land it that well, but we were all freaking out. Yeah. Wasn't he dating pink or he's married to pink or something? Yeah, I forgot about that. Oh, that's, man. Yeah. What a guy.

They were such a power couple. aggressive couple. I'm going with like by far my favorite scene in a really terrible movie. But the point break remake, like at the very start, they're dirt biking. And they're like out in the desert. And there's just like this island rock that's like off of the cliff. And there's like this little like island thing of rock. And it's just like, I don't know.

It doesn't make any sense. but they like jump the bike onto this island that there's no way to get a motorcycle off of. Like there's no way to get momentum to get back off. And like the entire concept made no sense. And I was like, someone would for sure like die doing that. And then like the Johnny Utah's character best friend tries to go on the island too and like only gets halfway on and ends up falling off. And it's like what should have happened, but it was so funny to like see that actually

happened because it's like, I don't know, it's a great. I can't even visualize what you're saying. I'm going to have to watch it. Yeah, it's so funny. I've only seen that movie once, but I have like really fond memories of it. And yeah, I'm worried that if I revisit it, it'll just tape those memories. But it's kind of weird. Like Johnny, Utah, that movie's just like trying to.

to stop people who want to help the environment. Right. They are kind of like ecotorists. Oh, that's right. Still like, at least they have a good cause. I'm pro-ecorrorist, so I'm all for it. But I think that movie, I just wish it wasn't point break. Like, I think I would have liked that movie okay if it wasn't break, you know?

Well, you got to watch that scene again and then I'll watch it. Check back in with me. I also wanted to shout out the first triple X movie. movie. Yeah, I was going to, I was wondering if he jumps over like a 20 foot fence with like no jump or something. From the flat ground. It's incredible.

What are my, one of my all time favorite Vin Diesel moments. I used to follow him on Instagram. And when the second triple X was like coming out when it like just got announced, he posted. And this was like not tongue in cheek. He wasn't like being ironic. He posted concept art for triple X too. And it was him. on a dirt bike, popping a wheelie on a beach, like holding a machine gun with like a really

sexy bikini girl on the bike behind him. And he was just like, new concept art for triple X looks so sick. It's just like, oh my God. This is insane. Someone needs to draw some concept art like that for teeth and claw. Yeah, someone do it out there. We know you guys are ours. All right.

Next category. I think I might have actually done this one with. the Tyke episode, but we're doing it again. What's the coolest circus act? I've always liked the human cannonball. That's my favorite to watch. Mine's like close to that, but it's getting hit by the cannonball. Oh, that was good.

The huge guy that just like tanks the cannonball. For me, it's the trapeze. I just think it's like weirdly beautiful. And it's the one where I'm always like kind of catching my breath, like wondering if someone's going to fall. It used to be all the animal stuff for me until I learned how cruel it is. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Let's do best thing on film pre-1950. And I'm asking this because I'll probably put it on social media, but there's actually like a video of Monarch. And what was the dude's name? Fearsome Eggberg. It's my story. Yeah, nice job. Fearless Eggbert.

Fearless. Yeah, there's like a video of them doing it. So, like, it's pretty cool. Yeah. For me, I'll be honest, like, I'm not an old film officiunato. I don't like watch old movies that often. But one that always has just like really stuck out for me is that scene where Buster Keaton is like standing and the fake wall falls down. And he's standing right where the window is and it falls over him.

and just thinking of like how they didn't have real like they all their stunts back then they just did and like the actors themselves would do them and just how like perfectly that had to go for him not to get smushed and a bunch I saw this whole clip of like all the old stunts from movies that they would do and they're just insane but that for whatever reason that Buster Keaton one's one that like really stands out for me so that's what I'm gonna say you can tell by like how heavy it is how it hits the ground like he's He would have died, like, for sure, no question. And, like, the window is, like, basically human-sized. Yeah. Mine is, I like watching really old clips of basketball. And there's this old one from the 1930s. It's like a couple of teams playing against each other in, like, an empty gym, and they're

going at it really hard. But, again, it, like, puts up text at the beginning. Like, it's an old silent film. It's so long ago. And it was, like, basketball is known more as a lady's activity. but these gents from America are really going at it, and they're just like hucking the ball, like, hook shots and almost breaking the backboard and stuff.

It's so funny. But like... Just like watching how they used to play. Yeah, and like they dribble with like their head down and like huck it around. Dude, if I actually got a time machine, maybe I'd just go back then and just like play basketball. Yeah, for like $2 a month. Because it's so fun if you're just like a million times better than everyone.

It's true. But it is like, it's a fun. fascinating glimpse into history, this old sport that no one really knew or cared about at all. And now it was like a multi-billion dollar industry. Yeah. Yeah. These people just cared so much about it. That is cool.

Yeah. I also went with a Buster Keaton, but the train where he's like clearing the tracks with those huge, yeah. Like that's just so crazy that he was actually doing that. He's my favorite. And then the lion, this monarch, the lion was pretty cool video. too. They have like the cameraman went in the dome thing. Uh-huh. But like Monarch only liked his owner, so he's like all scared filming him in the middle of the thing.

Terrified. He's like in there with a lion. All right. One new category that I just made up that doesn't really have a lot of context, but I thought it was kind of a funny one to throw in every once in a while. Okay. What made you cry most recently? I'll go first.

Yeah, go for it. Well, when I told that listener to watch a little One Piece, I also rewatched the Nami Arc and I cried a little. How can you not? But also the bear, the new season of the bear. Like, I really loved cousin this season. Ah, my bad. That's okay.

Tell me, but without spoilers, tell, like, so people who have watched it will know what you're talking about. For me, the thing that, like, gets me emotional with the bear is just like, it's this really dysfunctional family and then the people around them. And they're like so dysfunctional and angry and broken that there's like these rare moments in the show when they're not and they're treating each other really well. And you can see how much they love each other like coming out. And that's the stuff that always like hits me a little bit.

And just like seeing them kind of, yeah, I don't know. It's just a really well-written, well-acted show, and it can be emotional sometimes for sure. What you got, Mike? For me, it was almost so, I don't know, it's always weird when people are like, I don't cry, but I really am just kind of like an emotionally stunted husk of a human being at this point. But yesterday, it was kind of funny, Wes and I were texting each other while we were both in empty theater halls watching different movies. He was at the boogeyman, and I was at Asteroid City, the new West Anderson. movie. And at the very end, there's this small moment between Shortsman and Margo Robbie that, like, it's just like quintessential Wes Anderson moment where, like, it's all been a very

kind of whimsical kind of pastiche of like old Western, whatever. And there's just a couple of lines that are exchanged where it's like, I don't want to spoil anything, but like there's a lot of, a lot of emphasis put on like escapeism and then like facing reality. And, you know, accepting what life is for, you know, what it's presenting to you. And it was just like a really powerful moment for me. And I know a lot of people don't resonate with Anderson's movies quite like I seem to. But yeah, I was like, it felt like if I allowed myself to have a moment to cry, I probably could have. You almost cried on the podcast the other day.

I don't remember what it was. Oh, yeah. What was that? Yeah. Also the Pelicans in Jurassic Park. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah, that was what it was. Yeah.

It was close. There's something on a drive, too, that you said made you tear up. And I was like, yeah, I kind of did to me too. You're not. You know. You think? When the baby pees on his burning leg. Me and Mike showed me this movie called Hard Boiled, Wes.

Have you ever watched it? I haven't watched it, but I've heard of it. That's so freaking good. It's pretty incredible. Okay. It's like, I looked up the kill count in it. Uh-huh. And there's like four movies that were ahead of it.

and is like all war movies. Wow. Like counting like napalm. This is just like a cop shooting people. Well, check it out. I don't love those movies that much. Oh, dude, you'll like it. Okay.

All right, so let's move to listener questions. Okay, dokey. All right. So this first one is actually from, it seems like there's a little bit of collusion here between two different users, or maybe it was like the same person with two different. different usernames somehow on Patreon.

But it's a good strategy. I'm just saying if you get multiple submissions of the same question. So it goes like this. I heard you all mentioned Vegas on a recent episode, and I'm curious what each of your favorite casinos are. And this is from Nab Seagull slash Nicholas. They probably just have a joint account, right? Probably, yeah.

Oh, God. Oh, man. I love Vegas. My first thought was Mandalay Bay, because I love. love their aquarium. Yeah, that's my first thought, too. They got so many sharks. I really love the Bellagio, though.

Like, the one I'd be saddest if it left Vegas is probably the Bellagio. Okay. Yeah, it's hard for me, because there's ones that are, like, nostalgic to me that are, like, the themed ones that were really popular in the late 90s and stuff. But then there's, like, ones that I've stayed at as an adult that I just thought were, like, really nice. As a little kid, Circus Circus was the nicest place I had. ever been in my life and it's like my first loop-de-loop roller coaster was in my hotel like i couldn't

believe it is is the best experience ever yeah or like excalibur or like those kind of places i haven't done that one i want to see the guys fight i'll say though for me lately it's probably been the venetian which i know is kind of a boring answer but i've stayed there a few times with friends it's just been really fun their rooms are nice what's the theme of that one it's like venice it's just kind of like, oh yeah, yeah. It's just like, it has like the river in it, right? Yeah. It's just like a fun one and it's close to all the other ones. So that's why I pick it. I'll say that. I'm not super into Vegas, but I'm always, I've, I've just walking through the cosmopolitan a couple of times and it's always struck me as just like, this is what casinos are.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a pretty cool place. Okay. Next question. This is from Adam. Who plays you in the biopic of your life so far? And what is the character? arc slash plot. So, I mean, the character arc slash plot is just like our life. Yeah, if they're playing us, I would imagine. Yeah. Unless you want to take some artistic liberties, but. There's some dude from, oh, shoot, I had the name and I forgot it.

Hold on, you guys go, I'll think of it. Well, for Jeff, it's young Leo. Yeah, young Leo Nardo. That I think we should each pick. That's like when I was like 18, though. People won't see that. We should pick for each other. Okay.

So, yeah, I'm picking. I'm picking young Leo for Jeff, and so that's what we're voting on. Who's Mike? Thank you. I would say, you know, you know who you kind of remind me of Mike is like a younger Ryan Gosling in like some of his more kind of like quieter roles? Like Lars and the real girl or like, I don't know. Some of those where he's just kind of, I don't know. I've never had a good one for Mike.

Yeah, that's who I'm going to pick. I was thinking, like, the third Hemsworth brother. Yeah. You know, get a little bit of name recognition, but, like, don't break the bank trying to, you know, cast someone. Or, like, a dupless brother, like Mark Dupless. For Wes, I've always kind of thought Bradley Cooper. That's nice. But you might, you might have to do, like, the thing with Chris Evans in the first,

the first Captain America movie where he's, like, all skinny at the start. And then he gets a lot bigger. Fair enough. Yeah. I always just get Elijah Wood. Yeah, that should be yours. I was going to say Martin Star.

But your face looks more like Bradley Cooper to me. Okay. Yeah. I'll take Martin Star too. He's actually, I know Martin, so. Meant to be it. Okay, next question. This is from Ian.

If humans die out, what animal do you see eventually evolving to take over the planet? Apes and monkeys are off limits. For context, there's that South Park episode where otters take over. Hmm. Let's go orcas. They're taking out a boat. Yeah. Orcas are good pick.

I'm going to say ravens, just because they're so smart. Oh, yeah. They're just going to peck our eyeballs out and take over. So, ravens. Yeah. Corn? I'll go with. It's a crowd.

termites. They're building their own little. It seems like they're like little city builders, you know? Like one day everything's just going to collapse because the termites are just like hollowing all out underneath us. They've timed it all perfectly and one last munch is going to like collapse all of human infrastructure. I like that. Go termites. Okay.

Last one. This is from Lauren. What is your ultimate bucket list destination and or animal adventure? We've answered this before. but maybe something has changed. Yeah, my change is all the time. Yeah. My current one is northern India to see snow leopards.

And that's my pick because there's a good spot up there to see snow leopards. And then you're not far from some really good tiger viewing and lots of other really cool animals in India. And I just love India. So that's my current pick is to go there to see snow leopards. Yeah. I don't know. I've been thinking a lot about Panama to see pygmy sloths and also Brazil to see Jaguars. Jaguars.

Jaguars. I'm going there this week. Holy mackerel. You lucky dog. Yeah. Mike. Do you think there's a city in India called Indianapolis? Kind of like Indiana has Indianapolis?

I doubt it. I don't think so, but maybe there are a lot of cities in India. What's your pick? Why the heck not? If not. So I'm going diving in the Red Sea. I want to see some mantarais, like a big old, you know, like when there's like just a million of them swimming around?

Yeah, you're going to get Steve Irwin. I hope. Not by mantaray. And this hellish facade I call life. Yeah. There's like nowhere you can go to see pandas, right? No, not in the one. Well, you can in China, but there's not like a ecotourism thing as far as I know.

To go see them. They on that, like, tourists go to see pandas there? I don't think so. But I'm not sure. All right. Kung Fu Panda on the TV. Have you guys seen any of these knock-off Kung Fu Panda movies? It's incredible how many there are.

Who was the actor you said was in one? Norm MacDonald just shows up. That's what you said. You almost cried at. Yeah, that was the one. This is the absolute worst production I've ever seen in my life. And he is just like. He's just collecting a paycheck.

Yeah. I don't blame anyone that does that. Yeah. Ha. Never hold it against them. I'm not going to watch those. Is that it for questions? Yep, that's it.

All right. Thanks. Patrons for sending those in. We sure appreciate it. Sorry sometimes that we get a little bit behind. It's been a really busy time for all three of us. You know what we need to just do is set up questions on Discord too because it's getting like a little overwhelming on Patreon, I feel like.

If we just had a page on Discord that says listener questions and you guys can write them in, Yeah. Yeah. Is that a good idea? Discord, if you're not involved with Discord, there's a lot of cool stuff happening. And it's mostly by, you know, you guys, the listeners. Like there's movie nights every other week, every couple of weeks. And that's really fun to see happen.

We have a post a few weeks back with the link too. So just go look at that post and you'll have access. It's probably expired. We'll probably have to do a new one. Yeah. I can edit that post even. The link expires after seven days. for Discord invites.

I know. Well, thanks, guys. Thanks, Jeff. That was a fun story. You're welcome. Yeah, that was amazing. Okay. Well, we'll see you all.

Top three Jeff episode? Top three Jeff episode, without a doubt. Oh, babe. I'm going to have to think about that. There's been some real bangers. All right. We'll see you guys soon. Love you, guys.

Bye. Bye.