Top Story with Tom Llamas - Thursday, February 15, 2024
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Tonight, a hearing connected to one of the most important court cases in American history,
taking one strange turn after another, cash, caviar, and the phrase, a man, is not a plan.
All part of testimony today, with the key question being, what exactly is a romantic relationship?
The high-stakes battle in a Georgia courtroom, D.A. Fannie Willis defending her conduct
in a relationship with the special prosecutor she appointed in the Trump election interference case.
Her fiery exchanges as a special prosecutor, Nathan Wade, is grilled on his finances.
Bombshell testimony refuting Willis and Wade's claims that their relationship started after he was hired.
What we know about a potential ruling and the major implications for the Trump election interference case.
Also tonight, Trump trial date set, a judge clearing the way for the first criminal trial,
of a former president.
The case stemming from hush money payments
to adult film star Stormy Daniels.
The former president slamming the decision
saying he'll be in court by day
and campaigning by night
just as the election heats up.
Kansas City reeling from a mass shooting
after the Chief's Super Bowl parade,
a beloved local radio DJ
killed and nearly two dozen others injured,
including many children.
The new video investigators are combing through
to piece it all together.
Russia's space weapon
New details emerging after an alarming announcement about a national security threat.
The capabilities of Russia's new anti-satellite weapon reaching the cosmos, but also back here on Earth?
In California, a powerful explosion rocking an L.A. neighborhood, nine firefighters injured.
Two of them critically would authorities say cause this blast.
Plus, Paul McCartney's long-lost guitar has been found, the beloved base missing for more than five decades,
now back where it belongs.
The moment the man who helped track it down
heard the good news from Sir Paul himself.
And meet the two teens blazing a trail
in the high-stakes sport of competitive cornhole.
You heard me right.
That's right.
Both athletes now the first players in the nation
to score college scholarships,
how they turn their hobby into a shot at higher education,
and their tips to take home a W at your next backyard barbecue.
Top story.
Starts right now.
And good evening.
There's only one way to describe this.
Fireworks in a Georgia courtroom,
a high-stakes and hostile hearing
as Fulton County District Attorney Fonie Willis
takes the stand defending her conduct
in the Trump election interference case.
Attorneys for the co-defendants in that case
arguing that Willis's romantic relationship
with a special prosecutor she appointed
created a conflict of interest.
The judge Wayne, and if evidence in this hearing merits,
Willis and Wade's disqualification,
throwing the entire case, such an important case, into limbo.
Dramatic moments as Willis takes the stand,
entering the courtroom saying she wants to, quote, go,
and she definitely went at it.
It is a lot.
It is a lot.
We tried to implicate.
I slept with him at that conference,
which I find to be extremely offensive.
You think I'm on trial.
These people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020.
I'm not on trial, no matter how hard you try to put me on trial.
A defiant Fannie Willis punching back, as you heard there, at every question thrown her way,
attacking the defense every second she gets.
The judge giving her a stern warning telling her to answer questions directly.
It's going to be my first time I have to caution here.
We have to listen to the questions as asked.
And if this happens again and again, I'm going to have no choice but to strike your testimony.
The special prosecutor at the heart of these allegations also taking the stand.
The defense pressing Nathan Wade trying to prove that their relationship benefited them financially.
Lawyers casting doubt that Willis repaid Wade for expensive vacations and dinners with cash.
You don't have a single solitary deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by Mrs. Willis and cash, do you?
No, sir.
Not a single solitary one.
Not a one.
Not a one.
And it's not just their finances being questioned,
but when their relationship started?
Bombshell testimony from a key witness poking holes
at both Willis and Wade's testimony.
They say the relationship began in early 2022 after Wade was appointed.
But a former DA office employee and longtime friend of Willis says otherwise.
You have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 until the last time
you spoke with her. No doubt.
We're breaking down all the heated moments in the courtroom and the wide-scale implications
this hearing could have on the Trump election interference case.
But first, we want to start with NBC's Blaine Alexander, who's covering it all for us.
She is the high-profile face of the prosecution against former President Trump in the Georgia
election interference case.
Fawney, F-A-N-I, last name is Wittles.
But late today, Fulton County District Attorney Fon-E-Willis herself took the witness.
stand. And I've been very anxious to have this conversation with them today. So I ran to the
court. In an often contentious back and forth, it is a lot. It is a lot. Willis was pressed about
details of her personal relationship with Nathan Wade, who she hired a special prosecutor on the
Trump case. You and Mr. Wade met in October 2019 at a conference? That is correct. I think in one
of your motions you tried to implicate and slept with him at that conference, which I find to be
extremely offensive. Willis's testimony was a shocking twist in a fiery evidentiary hearing
that focused on allegations that Willis financially benefited from her personal relationship with
Wade in the form of romantic getaways. Allegations first made by Trump co-defendant Michael Roman
and his attorney, Ashley Merchant, in an effort to get Willis removed as prosecutor, a move that
would throw the entire Georgia case against Mr. Trump into question. You think I'm on trial. These
people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. I'm not on trial, no matter how hard
you try to put me on trial. At issue, who paid for vacations the two took together? Wade and
Willis both testified they split costs evenly, or she reimbursed him. You never wrote him a check.
Ma'am, I don't have checks. When pressed for evidence, Willis said she used cash. For many,
many years, I have kept money in my house. I don't need anything from a man. A man is not.
a plan. A man is a companion. And so there was tension always in our relationship, which is why I was
give him his money back. I don't need anybody to foot my bills. Both Wade and Willis have acknowledged
a personal relationship. The question, when it began before or after she hired him on the Trump
case in November of 2021. Today, a longtime friend of Willis and former employee testified that relationship
started well before then.
You have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 until the last time you spoke with her.
No doubt.
And later, when pressed by Trump attorney Steve Sadeau,
did you observe them do things that are common among people having a romantic relationship?
Yes.
Such as, can you give us an example?
Hugging, kissing, this affection.
All before November 1st of 2021, correct?
Yes.
But Willis took exception.
I certainly do not consider her a friend now.
I think that she, you know, there's a saying no good deed goes unpunished.
And I think that she betrayed our friendship.
Willis says she and Wade started dating in early 2022 after she hired him.
It's the same timeline he swore to in an affidavit and testified to today.
Let's be clear.
2022 was the start of any intimate sexual relationship with the district attorney.
And with that, Blaine Alexander joins us live tonight from Atlanta.
Blaine, this was such a momentous day in this case, and it was really incredible to watch this play out.
You've been covering this for us from the get-go.
Talk to us about the moment when Fonnie Willis decided to take the stand,
because before it happened, there was some questions about whether she would testify at all.
You know what, Tom, at the very second that she walked into the courtroom, her own attorneys were arguing to keep her off the witness stand.
Remember, she had filed a motion to quash her subpoena.
She had filed a motion to stop the entire hearing from happening.
And so even though she had been called to the stand, her attorneys were actively arguing to keep her off.
But then her security came in first and then Fannie Willis strode in after them.
And she basically said, knock it all down.
I'm dismissing that.
I want to take the stand.
And it was a surprise to everyone in the room, everyone who was watching, and certainly her legal team as well.
It was an incredibly compelling moment for her to take on all the allegations head on there.
What happens tomorrow, and when could we get a ruling in this case?
Well, she's back on the stand tomorrow.
We do know that there's some more testimony there.
But remember, her team has their own witnesses to call.
So we expect that to take about four or five hours.
We know that Fondi Wills' father, for instance, is going to be one of the people who's called to the stand by Anna Cross on her team.
Now, as for whom we get a ruling, it's not going to happen this week.
We certainly don't expect that.
The hearing's going to go through tomorrow, possibly even early into next week, Tom.
And the judge has made it clear he's not going to rule from the bench.
So what's going to happen is after the hearing's done, he's going to go back, consider the evidence,
and then issue a written ruling at some point in the days to come.
You know, Blaine, when we started the broadcast, I said this was a hearing connected to one of the most,
important court cases in modern American history, right? We have the president being accused of
trying to steal an election. We can't forget that. And I want you to remind our viewers,
there have already been multiple defendants who have pleaded guilty to these allegations,
right, to these charges. Yeah, absolutely. It started with 19. Four of them have pleaded guilty
already. But, you know, this still kind of leaves a hefty chunk of defendants left to try.
So the hanging questions here are, one, when will the trial date be? Fannie Willis wants to
to be in mid-August. Everybody, all the defendants are pushing back against that. And the other
question is, will they be tried together? That's something that the DA wants to see, or will they
be severed? Will we see a number of separate trials? So certainly a long time before we see
any sort of resolution in this. And then, of course, the big question, will she stay on the case?
Or how will the judge rule there? A lot of drama in the courtroom, but we can't lose sight
of what it's all connected to. Okay, Blaine Alexander, we thank you for all of that. To break it down,
all the big moments from today's hearing, I want to bring in our legal eagles tonight.
Angela Senadella and Danny Savalos, and Catherine Christian, a former assistant district attorney in the Manhattan DA's office, and also an NBC News legal analyst.
We thank you all for being here tonight.
Okay, as the former assistant DA, I want to start with you.
Was it a good idea for DA Fannie Willis to take the stand?
After seeing the result, yes.
When I first saw her in the well, I was like, what is she doing?
And then when she took the stand and basically owned it, basically she was saying, I'm the boss, I'm the DA.
I'm going to, you know, the buck stops with me.
I'm going to own this.
And she also, you know, we hear in Manhattan, like, oh, she's speaking too much.
She's Fulton County, Georgia.
She was elected by the Fulton County electorate.
She was speaking to Fulton County jurors.
This is who she was.
If she was very, very credible, and basically the judge, even though he said, I'm going to strike your testimony,
let her run the courtroom and just say and then run over the defense attorneys.
Angela, on this same question, there's a little piece of advice.
that I like to live by,
which is extreme emotion
will eviscerate your dreams, right?
And it seemed like
funny Willis's attorneys
were asking and we're trying to
make sure she wouldn't testify.
She comes out of nowhere
and she was definitely fired up.
Is it smart to take the stand
in that sort of headspace?
So look, it was a huge risk,
but I think it paid off
because she came in
and she dominated that courtroom.
I thought she took control.
She walked in there
and she said, this is my case,
this is my trial.
And I thought she had
great arguments where I thought Nathan Wade maybe was a little light. So I felt she made up
some gaps that Nathan Wade left. Let's go to the beginning of the day in what started here.
Fannie Willis is a former friend who she later rented an apartment from who actually worked for
her as well. Testified in this case, here's what she said about the relationship before Wade's
appointment, a special prosecutor. You have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect
from 2019 until the last time you spoke with her. No doubt.
And that's based on your personal observations and, you know, speaking with them and seeing them together and things like that.
Yes.
This is one of the issues, Danny, that's at the heart of this case, right?
Explain to our viewers, if you testify today in this hearing, you were under oath, correct?
Absolutely.
So if she lied, if Fannie Willis's former friend was lying there, she would go to jail?
Not automatically.
Perjury probably happens every day, 100 times a day in every courthouse.
it is very rarely actually prosecuted.
And by the way, you may not ever get to a certainty that she committed perjury.
You ask about that witness committing perjury.
It's also equally as possible that other witnesses today could have committed perjury as well.
And what really happens in life and in court is you never really find out who was telling the truth.
You just decide someone was more credible than the other.
But my question being, she'd have to have a motivation if she was not telling the truth.
And she stood by her word there.
How damaging of a moment was that?
It was somewhat damaging, but at the same time, it's one witness with some credibility issues.
She had some disciplinary problems at the DA's office.
I thought they did a good job of exposing that she might have had some motive to fabricate.
But look, it's just one witness, and you can take the credibility of the witness or not take the credibility.
I mean, credibility determinations are really not the same as perjury.
And, you know, ultimately the same thing applies to DA Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade.
the judge could ultimately conclude that they were not credible as well.
And look, I've got to tell you something, I'm thinking I'm probably in the minority,
especially with my dear friends here, Angela and Catherine.
I don't think that DA Fannie Willis did a great job as a witness, and I mean that technically.
But ultimately, in terms of speaking to her constituents, and in that sense, I agree with Catherine,
in terms of sending a message, because we've been playing sound of her testifying.
And it's really compelling speech, if this were in.
an interview on television, but it's not.
And all I say is this, however compelling it is, you go back to a few seconds before,
and she wasn't answering the question asked.
So all I would say is...
And we're going to get there, Danny.
We're going to get there.
We've got like 30 questions.
We're going to get there.
Angela, but Danny brings up a good point.
Who are you playing to here?
Because you're not playing to a jury.
I mean, maybe you're playing your constituents, but ultimately in this case, today,
aren't you playing to the judge?
Okay, so you're right, but also I understand what Danny's saying.
The judge will make the determination on credibility and decide whether or not these two
people get kicked off the case. But at the same time, the jury pool is watching. The whole public
is watching. So the future of their case will depend on what they think of those prosecutors.
So there were really two issues at play here, right guys? Did they have a relationship before Wade's
appointment, a special prosecutor? And did he use funds from that appointment to take Willis
on vacations? Here's how Wade explained how those trips were paid for.
So all of the vacations that she took, she paid you cash for?
Yes, ma'am.
You don't have a single solitary deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by Mrs. Willis and cash, do you?
No, sir.
Not a single solitary one.
Not a one.
And D.A. Willis also addressed her use of cash during her testimony.
What I'm telling you is that throughout the course of my life, I have always kept cash in my house.
So, Catherine, is that explanation going to hold up?
Oh, coming from her, yes, because the way she said it about her father, her daddy, telling her to always keep cash, how she uses cash app and cash.
So she was very credible on that.
I use credit cards.
She uses cash.
So her explanation, it was believable to me.
But the defense, and when I say the defense, the attorneys for the co-defendants were trying to kind of hammer, right?
They said, well, you use cash apps to pay your rent, but you didn't use cash apps to pay anything.
She said Nathan Wade doesn't use cash apps.
That all adds up.
Yes.
I mean, they obviously are arguing she did that, and there are no receipts to hide the fact of all the money.
But it was completely credible from what she was saying, particularly when she was talking
about her life and her father's wisdom to her about cash.
Danny, what did you think about those exchanges?
I can't help but think if Catherine, who has tried dozens more cases than I ever will
and has forgotten more about trial practice than I ever will, but than I'll ever know, rather,
I have to imagine if she was prosecuting an economics crimes case
and there's a witness on the stand that says,
oh, it just so happens, I have no record whatsoever
because I paid all this critically important issue,
all of it I paid in cash.
There's no record, fortunately for me,
absolutely no way to track it down.
Very convenient.
A lot of folks are framing this as,
there's nothing wrong with keeping cash in your house.
I agree.
You can pay for everything with cash.
We all know people who do that, although respectfully...
Senator Baumendez is claiming that he does the same thing.
Well, then you're making my point for me.
But look, if you want to argue that keeping cash in the home is a great idea, that's not what this is about.
This is about it happened to be unbelievably convenient that this particular transaction, paying someone back for vacations, was made with cash.
So now, magically, there's just no record of it.
And then as a second area issue, you may decide, by the way, that it's credible that after two people in a romantic relationship go on a cruise, that there's some meeting where someone thumbs off,
a wad of sweaty cash from an envelope and hands it over to their paramour.
It doesn't seem realistic to me, but look, that's ultimately for Judge McAfee to decide if he finds it
credible. If you went on a first date once, Tom, and handed a wad of cash and exchanged cash
back and forth or went Dutch or whatever it is, maybe you find that credible. I don't.
Appleby's gift cards. That's what I'm going to date.
Oh, yeah, waiting on this one, Angela.
The burden of proof here is on the defense to prove that this is not credible.
And so to the extent that she did have a believable explanation.
the judge has to weigh those, but the burden of proof is on the defendants.
Catherine, you know, as a former assistant DA, I was listening to this,
and DA Fannie Willis is a public servant.
And there was a lot of discussions about crews after cruise and Napa and caviar and cash and this and that.
That's got of a factor in some way.
People are allowed to go on vacation.
Don't get me wrong, but as a public servant, do you think that's going to hurt her?
No, it's not going to hurt her.
I tell you, I didn't do all of that, but I had colleagues who had the same salary,
I did, and they took wonderful vacations and had cars and had second homes. So people have
different lives. I think, you know, there's a, two things can be true at the same time.
One, this was appearance of impropriety, bad lapse of judgment. I think he should be off this case,
but there was, yes, he should not be on this case. Why? Why? Just the appearance of impropriety.
It will be, and I don't think she will be disqualified and the office will be disqualified,
that his continued presence will keep this issue alive.
He is not, she has the expert in RICO in the country on the trial team and across as a very excellent attorney.
His presence on this team is not necessary and is an unnecessary distraction.
I want to go back to that moment we played earlier in the broadcast when the judge admonishes Fannie Willis for the way she was answering some of the questions.
Let's roll that soundby, please.
It's going to be my first time I have to caution.
We have to listen to the questions as asked.
And if this happens again and again, I'm going to have no choice.
to strike your testimony.
Danny, I want to come to you with this one, because you made this point earlier.
I was listening to you.
She sort of had a strategy with the way she was answering questions, right?
She seemed to have total recall when she could take the question head on, and then at other
times when it was a tough question, there was, I don't remember, there was a little bit of
sort of side talk.
Talk to me about what happened there.
I hear a lot of folks saying she came out swinging, she fought back, and you know what,
that's great if you're giving a speech or giving an interview.
But I have to believe that every attorney who thinks she did her.
great job. I would ask, look, Catherine, if you, would you tolerate a witness not answering your
questions the way this witness did? And actually, I heard Catherine make a very good point,
which was the defense attorneys didn't ask the proper leading questions. There's a way to ask
and limit the witness to a yes or no answer. And really, the defense attorneys could have done
a better job in that area. But in terms of a witness testifying, and this is no ordinary
witness, this is the elected DA of Fulton County. She wasn't following the rules of
evidence. She got away with it, and you know what? She took a chance, and it probably saved the
day for her. Because you're right, she did get a message across. But if I was evaluating this
strictly by the rules of evidence and what my good friends here would tolerate if they were
cross-examining a witness, there's no way. There's no way Catherine would tolerate. There's no way
Angela would tolerate someone answering every other question but the question that was in.
Who was in control in that courtroom? Because I felt when DA Fawney Willis came in, she was in control.
Even more than the judge.
But the judge seemed to be afraid of her at one point before he finally said that.
Talk to me about that.
That's unusual.
She was in control, and Danny is right.
I would not.
First of all, if I was the defense attorney, yes, she was their witness.
I would not be asking open-ended questions so she can just roll over them.
She rolled over the attorneys.
She rolled over the judge.
It was one point he neatly said, I might have to strike your testimony and then didn't.
It's not normal, but think of the, there is a power dynamic.
Yes, he's the judge.
He's in control.
She's the DA.
Right.
What did you think about Ashley,
merchant, right? Because she's the one who brought this entire hearing together. She's the one
to make the first allegation to get to this point. But at times, she seemed to get dates wrong.
She seemed to get numbers wrong. She seemed to kind of have a case, but, and again, I'm not an
attorney. She didn't even know how to prosecute it. I got the sense that she was surprised she made
it this far. And she put up a good show. She did a lot of exploring. She threw a lot out there,
but I did feel the other defense attorneys picked up a lot of the slack and were able to narrow down
and hammered down far better than she did.
That said, she is the one who got the ball rolling.
You know, there was a lot of important issues discussed,
but a lot of times throughout this case,
things got a little wacky, they got a little crazy.
We have a clip of some of those moments now.
I think we did two different wine tours that you do,
which are pretty expensive.
I think I bought him.
He likes wine.
I don't really like wine, to be honest with you.
I like gray goose.
I don't need anybody to foot my bills.
The only man who's ever foot my bills completely is my daddy.
I don't want to discuss his personal business, but I'm happy Mr. Wade is still here with us.
And I did 50 big, very big.
Mr. Wade is used to women that, as he told me one time,
the only thing a woman can do for him is make him a sandwich.
We would have brutal arguments about the fact that I am your equal.
I don't need anything from a man.
A man is not a plan.
A man is a companion.
You never wrote him a check.
Ma'am, I don't have checks.
So, Catherine, I mean, there were moments when I was, to be completely transparent.
I mean, and everyone that was watching was laughing out loud.
Again, we had this conversation about who she's playing to here.
Does this give her any points in this case?
Definitely.
It definitely.
She, first of all, that's what made her credible.
Just laying back, you know, I don't drink wine.
I drink great goose.
It was her being herself.
And yes, the judge is making a decision, but as you can see, he clearly was letting her just do whatever she wanted to do in the courtroom today.
Danny?
Respectfully disagree.
One of the classic signs, and I guess criminal defense attorneys spend their entire career being lied to.
I won't get into detail.
You can guess who's doing the lying to us.
But what happens is that, in my view, my experience, a classic sign of dissembling, of not telling the truth, is when you're asked one question and you give a long answer about the answer to.
another question. You saw all that stuff about Gray Goose. If you'd gone back seven minutes,
the original question was probably something like, can you state your name for the record?
And Fannie Willis would take whatever question and add in whatever details she wanted.
And you notice, when it came to things that could get her in trouble, she had bad recall.
Have you paid your tax liens? I don't know. But when it comes to all the continents and countries
that Nathan Wade has visited, oh, she remembers that perfectly. Why? Zero risk whatsoever.
However, Angela, is the bar to disqualify?
I got to imagine it's very high, and did we reach that today?
It's not actually that high.
No, okay.
If there's an appearance of impropriety of a conflict of interest and if she derived any financial benefit.
And that's why we drilled down so deep today in what exactly did she pay for.
How much cash did she give Nathan Wade?
It sounds irrelevant, but what's important is did she pay her own way or did the taxpayers pay for her?
But when I say the bar's got to be high, I mean that the entire country's watching this case.
It's really a case that involves an allegation the former president stole the election.
So the judge, I have to think, Catherine, is going to weigh his decisions pretty seriously.
And it didn't look like he was playing around at all in court today.
No, and there was no actual conflict shown by, you know, any of the defense attorneys, any of the evidence, their star witness, unless they're going to have more, was the former friend, former employee.
That, to me, is not enough.
Yes, appearance of impropriety, bad judgment, and I still say he should be off the trial team,
but there's no reason to disqualify the elected DA.
Real quick, after today, because we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow,
what do you think that judge would have ruled after today?
I think he's going to rule that the defense did not meet their burden,
and DA Wallace should not be disqualified.
Danny?
I actually agree.
And so in that sense, Fannie Wilson's testimony will have been successful.
I just don't think it was something that was appropriate or proper at times.
But look, if it wins the day, I guess, by Angela?
I agree. I think Fannie Willis saved the day there.
I don't think Nathan Wade did, and I think she came in and really made it happen.
Okay, guys, we're going to have to wait and see what happens tomorrow.
Thank you so much.
This is a great conversation.
I appreciate it.
The trial date set in another major legal case involving the former president.
Donald Trump back in a New York courtroom today for that hush money case brought by Manhattan's district attorney.
Trump asking a judge to dismiss it, but the judge did not.
the request for a chair report.
The case that first made Donald Trump a criminal defendant, now the first to go to trial.
A judge in Manhattan today rejecting Mr. Trump's bid to toss the case out, saying the trial will begin on March 25th.
Sitting in court today by choice, the Republican frontrunner will soon be required to show up.
The judge saying he expects the trial to last six weeks.
A distraction, Mr. Trump argues, is aimed at trying to do.
derail his presidential campaign.
It's a very unfair situation.
They want to keep me nice and busy, so I can't campaign so hard.
The judge today unpersuaded by Mr. Trump's defense team arguing they cannot adequately
prepare for the trial in New York with all his other criminal cases still on the horizon,
including a Florida trial over classified documents in May and his election interference
case in Washington, still unscheduled.
The crux of the case in Manhattan, accusations of a hushy, and.
money paid to a porn star head of the 2016 election. Falsely documented prosecutors say as a legal
expense on the books of the Trump organization to hide it. We allege falsification of business
records to the end of keeping information away from the electorate. Laura Jarrett, NBC News,
New York. All right, moving now to the investigation to that deadly shooting following yesterday's
Kansas City Chief Super Bowl parade. Police now confirming that two juveniles are now in custody
and that the whole thing appears to have started during a fight.
Maggie Vespas in Kansas City with the very latest.
Tonight, investigators say the shooting that turned a day of celebration into one of morning in Kansas City
appears to have started with a fight.
This appeared to be a dispute between several people that ended in gunfire.
Police say two teenagers are in custody.
No charges have been filed.
We want to make sure that anyone that was responsible for yesterday is brought to justice.
According to police, 23 people were shot.
At least half the victims are younger than 16.
The youngest, just eight years old.
43-year-old radio DJ Lisa Lopez-Galvan was killed.
She always put others before herself, very giving an individual.
She's a big loss.
Do you feel like it's hit you?
It comes and goes.
It comes and goes.
Lopez Galvan was a huge Kansas City sports fan.
there yesterday with her 22-year-old son, Mark, who along with her two nieces, was also shot but survived.
She's just not a statistic.
Lisa was a lot more than just a number.
She was a very wholesome, very caring, very loving individual.
Downtown Kansas City was brimming with Chiefs fans during Wednesday's Super Bowl celebration.
This video obtained by TMZ Sports showing the moments gunfire rang out just as the festivities were ending.
We're in Kansas City, Missouri.
This desperate 911 call made by a mom and daughter hiding under a car.
Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
Bystanders try to save this person's life and help injured children.
Another bystander, Paul Contrera, says he helped tackle a person with a gun.
Police have not yet confirmed whether that person was involved in the shooting.
As I took them down, I seen the weapon, the gun fall to the ground.
With Kansas City schools closed, the crowd was packed with children.
Jacob Gooch and Emily Tavis went to the parade with their kids.
They say they were just 15 feet from one shooter.
He was shooting.
It was kind of like he did like a circle kind of.
You know, it wasn't like he just shot directly at somebody.
Trying to hit everybody.
Yeah.
Gooch was shot in the ankle.
Call him, I'm crawling like this.
You fell because you've been shot in the ankle.
Right.
Tavis was shot in the leg.
Their 13-year-old son, Jacob Jr. was hit in the foot.
Just can't imagine, you know.
my kids getting hurt and me being dead would be I just can't think about that you know all right
Maggie Vespah joins us tonight from Kansas City Missouri so Maggie almost two dozen people were
injured in this shooting and one of the sad things that came out last night was so many of them
were children do we know how they're doing tonight we've gotten some updates Tom obviously we
talked to some families that have children that are out of the hospital that last family there
included, but essentially they said at least half of those close to two dozen were under the age of 16, right?
We heard from some hospitals today, one hospital, one that also treats adults, telling us they have
two people still in the ICU, and then the Children's Hospital here in Kansas City says they have
three kids still hospitalized, but they tell us, Tom, those kids should survive their injuries, thankfully.
That is great news. Okay, Maggie, thank you for that. Next tonight to new details about a possible
Russian military threat from space. U.S. officials saying it is a nuclear.
powered satellite that could cause plenty of chaos across the country. NBC's Peter Alexander
explains. Tonight, the White House confirmed that it's monitoring Russia's development of what
it called a troubling anti-satellite capability, but cautioned it is not a threat to Americans.
We are not talking about a weapon that can be used to attack human beings or cause physical
destruction here on Earth. And tonight, NBC News has learned new details about that capability,
that it's a Russian nuclear-powered space asset that could be weaponized.
according to a U.S. official and a congressional official familiar with the intelligence.
It is not a nuclear bomb that Russia is trying to send up in space.
It is not an active capability, and it has not yet been deployed.
Experts have said a nuclear-fueled satellite might be able to carry a high-powered jammer
that could block out a wide array of communications and other signals.
Today's revelations come just hours after the House Intelligence Committee Chairman,
Republican Mike Turner, issued a cryptic warning demanding the White House,
declassify intelligence about the unspecified threat.
And today the White House met with House leaders about it.
I've got great faith in what the administration is currently doing.
Try to address this matter.
In 2022, NBC News's cameras were the first ever allowed inside the U.S. Space Command in Colorado.
General Stephen Whiting speaking to NBC's Tom Costello.
We don't want there to be a war in space, but if others choose to start a war there, we'll be ready.
All of it is Russian president, Vladimir Putin, is raising eye.
eyebrows weighing in on the 2024 election, saying he would prefer President Biden over Republican
frontrunner Donald Trump, saying Biden saying Biden is more experienced, more predictable.
He is an old school politician. Mr. Trump calling that a compliment.
The only president in the last five that hasn't given Russia anything is a president known
as Donald J. Trump. And this rebuke from the White House.
Mr. Putin should just stay out of our elections.
Also tonight, NBC News has learned about a secret cyber attack that the U.S. recently conducted against an Iranian military ship.
According to three U.S. officials, that ship had been collecting intelligence on cargo vessels in and around the Red Sea
and sharing it with Iranian-backed Houthi rebels who then attacked those ships.
The U.S. operation more than a week ago, Tom, was intended to prevent further Houthi attacks.
Tom.
Okay, Peter, thank you.
Still ahead tonight.
explosion in L.A. dramatic video capturing the moment of that blast, which left nine firefighters
injured. What authorities say triggered the explosion. Plus, the winter storm on the move in the
Great Lakes expected to drop inches of snow. Bill Karen standing by with the forecast. And a Detroit
Piston star, Isaiah Stewart arrested for assaulting an opponent in the parking lot before a game.
What we know about what went down. Stay with us. Top story. Just getting started on this Thursday night.
All right, we're back now with the forecast in a storm system, moving through the Great Lakes, dropping up to six inches of snow in some areas.
Meanwhile, out west, a winter wallop, rain and mountain snow slamming parts of the region, making for dangerous driving conditions in the Cierras.
Winter alerts now stretching from Washington to Wyoming.
Let's get right over to NBC's to NBC News meteorologist Bill Cairns.
Bill, tell us what you're watching tonight.
Three storms.
The first one is racing through New England, quick shot of snow.
heading through the region. As we head through the end of the rush hour, areas from New York City
Southward is no big deal, but a quick inch of snow is possible for the rest of this evening,
mass pike, all the way up through areas Vermont, New Hampshire, also through Maine. We're going to
see lake effect snow kicking in, too, behind this. So the next storm is already coming out into
the plains. It's going to combine. There's a little bit of snow here in South Dakota and areas
in Nebraska. Notice the moisture increasing in South Texas. This storm's going to have a little more
juice with it, so the snow footprint's going to be a little bigger. We should get a coating to an inch from
St. Louis, Indianapolis, one to two inches, Columbus, the mountainous areas of West Virginia.
And then Friday night, you'll wake up Saturday morning, Washington, D.C., Baltimore, and Philly.
You haven't had a lot of snow this winter.
This looks like to be about one to three inches for you when you wake up Saturday morning.
New York City, probably about an inch.
And then we've been talking all week long about what's going to happen on the West Coast.
You just saw the pictures from the first storm that went through.
Here's a huge one off the coast.
And look at this.
That's an atmospheric river.
And this has its eyes set on Southern California this weekend.
We're still expecting a chance of some significant flooding and mudslides, Tom, Saturday and especially Sunday.
In a rough winter for California.
Okay, Bill, thank you for that.
Severe weather also causing a scary situation in, you guessed it, California.
Mount Baldy, when we come back, new video showing the daring rescue to save six hikers who were stuck near the top of the mountain at 9,000 feet,
how they were eventually saved after several hours.
All right, we're back down with Top Stories Newsfeiting.
We begin with the powerful gas explosion that injured several firefighters in L.A.
Surveillance video, take a look.
It shows a massive fireball.
Wow.
Erupting on a street in the Wilmington neighborhood.
Officials say crews were responding to a burning truck when a compressed natural gas tank then exploded.
Nine firefighters were hurt, including at least two in critical condition tonight.
It is unclear what started the initial fire.
Detroit Piston star Isaiah Stewart arrested.
for allegedly assaulting Phoenix Suns drew Eubanks.
In a statement, Phoenix police say Stewart punched Eubanks in an arena parking lot before yesterday's game.
The sons called the attack, quote, unprovoked.
Eubanks was okay and played in the game.
Stewart was issued a citation and released but was already out of the game for an injury.
We've reached out to the players' reps for comment but have not heard back just yet.
Colorado police and the FBI are looking for a portrait of George Washington
that's believed to be more than 200 years old.
Authorities say the painting was stolen from a storage unit in Englewood in January.
It measures 24 by 30 inches and is inside a gold frame.
Authorities say the painting dates back to the early 1800s and is a family heirloom
if not released the items value just yet.
And a heroin rescue after six hikers found themselves trapped on California's Mountie,
new video shows the hikers in a line walking towards the rescue helicopter
before being airlifted to safety.
The group had become stranded at 9,000 feet due to weather conditions.
After several hours, they called 911 and were hoisted onto the chopper.
They are expected to be okay.
Okay, time now for the Americas where Venezuela's government ordered the local UN office on human rights to suspend operations,
giving staff just 72 hours to leave and accusing the office of promoting opposition to the country.
The announcement coming after prominent human rights attorney,
Roscio San Miguel was detained last week on charges of conspiracy against President Maduro.
The UN has called out Maduro over the years for his human rights abuses and the deaths of dissidents and protesters.
San Miguel's detainment, sparking outrage from human rights groups in Venezuela,
demanding for her release and expressing concern over government repression.
Marissa Parra joins us tonight from Miami to break this down and other news out of Venezuela.
That's important.
So, Marissa, let's start here.
What's the latest tonight?
And do we know why the Venezuelan government decided to make this move?
Hey, Tom, well, you mentioned some important context there.
We have this human rights lawyer, San Miguel, who is detained, among others at the airport this past weekend.
So then today, Venezuela announced their decision at a news conference at the Capitol saying that their local UN office had 72 hours to completely suspend their operations.
So the office, they said, they accused the office of being used by the international community against Venezuela, saying, quote,
They had a colonialist attitude that was abusive and in violation of the Charter of the United Nations.
Back to San Miguel, Venezuela is accusing the lawyer of being a part of an alleged plot to kill Maduro.
This is a plot they're calling the white bracelet plot.
And so she is now facing charges of treason, of conspiracy, of terrorism.
And so her arrest followed an already tumultuous few weeks among opposition party members.
We're talking about civilians.
We're talking about members of the military.
And so following those arrests, as well as, of course, this very high-profile detainment with San Miguel,
the United Nations had expressed concern.
They had called for her immediate release and asked for the right to due process.
And here we are, just days later, Tom, just days later with an order from the government to suspend their Venezuelan office completely.
So, Marcia, I want to make sure I understood you correctly.
Maduro and his government is accusing the human rights attorney of trying to assassinate Maduro.
Correct, of being a part of this white bracelet.
Have they provided any proof whatsoever?
That's a great question.
And so far, there is not extensive proof.
But we know that in terms of reaction that we're hearing from the United Nations and the White House,
there has been sort of a script that they're following.
They're being very careful with their responses here.
The United Nations has sort of said they've kept it very, very brief.
They said, we regret this announcement.
We're evaluating the next steps here.
office in Venezuela, by the way, since 2019. And both John Kirby and Jean-Cierre have expressed
kind of similar concerns, deep concerns over this, not elaborating on any type of specific
response, Tom, but saying that they are watching this very closely. And then, you know, we've been
covering this threat of war between Venezuela and Guyana pretty closely, right? Venezuela,
saying that they want to annex these lands that belong to Guyana, very rich oil fields. And now I know
there's new reporting that Venezuela is building up forces along the border with Guyana?
Yeah, and it's times like this, Tom, when we know that we may not get a straight answer from
governments, this is when we rely on images from above. So satellite images have shown us
before, particularly with other countries. We've seen this with North Korea. We're seeing this
with Venezuela. Those images from above are so telling. So what we're seeing is an increase in
military presence in the area. We're seeing an increase in military and armored vehicles around the
military bases here. So, Tom, even though there's very little information that we're getting
from the Venezuelan government on that front, that increase in military presence is definitely
very telling and very concerning. And again, something that the White House is watching closely.
Marissa Parra from our Miami studios tonight. Marissa, thank you for that. Now to a check
of what else is happening around the world and global watch. We start with an update on that
oil spill off the coast of Tobago. It's now spreading through the Caribbean. The spill now
visible by satellite images. You see it right here. Officials say portions of the spill have now
moved 89 miles into the Caribbean Sea, entering into Grenada's waters and could impact Venezuela.
Trinidad and Tobago declaring a national emergency last week after spotting oil spilling from
an unidentified capsized vessel. Several Caribbean and Central American nations have joined this
investigation. Late today, Greece's parliament allowing same-sex marriage in a landmark vote,
the change making Greece one of the first orthodox Christian countries to allow same-sex couples to marry and adopt children,
decades of campaigning by the LGBT community, leading to a day of joy.
However, the motion proving divisive, the far right declaring the bill, quote, anti-Christian.
And police in Peru using an unusual Valentine's themed disguise to capture an alleged drug dealer.
New video released by police shows an agent in a teddy bear costume with a heart-shaped balloon pretending to be.
be a Valentine's Day gift. The suspect coming out of her home to greet the bear when she
was taken into custody. Authorities then finding bags of drugs stored inside the home. Several
people were arrested. Didn't see that one coming. Okay, coming up, Paul McCartney reunited with
a prize possession, a long-lost bass guitar, return to the Beatles legend after more than five
decades. How one man led the charge to track it down and his priceless reaction when it got back
to where it once belonged.
Welcome back. Tonight we have a big breakthrough in a long-standing rock mystery.
Paul McCartney's favorite bass guitar, lost for half a century, now reunited with the lad from Liverpool,
thanks to the hard work of a group of British investigative journalists.
NBC Savannah Sellers caught up with the team that cracked the case on how it all came together.
It's the iconic instrument that helps start a music revolution.
launching the Beatles from basement performances to superstardom.
When we started off, we all had guitars.
I actually ended up sort of getting lumbered with bass because our bass player left.
But the guitar Paul McCartney first played with the Beatles,
a 1961 Hoffner violin bass, went missing after the recording of Let It Be.
The mystery of Sir Paul's favorite instrument, now being pieced together for the first time.
I think it's a bit like a jigsaw, really.
All thanks to investigative journalists.
Scott and Naomi Jones.
Late last year, they teamed up with Nick Woss from Hoffner Instruments,
launching The LostBase.com.
Their dogged research, finding it was stolen in 1972 before changing hands.
That base, the most important bass in the history of rock and roll,
the most important base in the history of music,
actually changed hands in a London pub for a couple of quid and some free beer.
Turns out the guitar stayed in that same family and just 10 miles or so from the
music megastar all this time. As news of the search grew louder, they turned it in. This
intrepid team found out in a phone call from McCartney himself. What was that moment like?
This guy comes on the phone saying, hey, hey, Nick, we've got the base. We found it. It's been
handed in. We've got the base. And I'm thinking, who's this idiot? But you know who it was?
It was Paul. And he found me up to tell me they actually got the base.
McCartney grateful for all the sleuthing and that the bass was back in his hands.
I always had faith that I would find it, but sometimes I also thought, well, you know, this thing's been gone so long and nobody's ever seen it.
And I did often wonder if I was crazy, you know, for looking for it.
The mystery over, the guitar back to where it always belonged.
Savannah Sellers, NBC News.
When we come back, Cornhole, it's your drunk cousin's favorite game, but now he may be getting the last laugh, from bars and tailgates to possibly a life filled with success.
And that's because the popular game now earning two teenagers' college scholarships, how they went from playing the lawn game with family to competing in the big leagues, and could this be a new trend for student athletes?
We'll explain.
All right, finally tonight, two Colorado teens making history,
earning the first ever college scholarships for Cornhole.
It's a game usually played in backyards and at barbecues,
but now it's set to become a Division I sport.
NBC Stephen Romo caught up with the athletes
and has more on this special strategy that helped get them to the top.
No longer, just for tailgates and summer camps.
walk away with an open doubles title as well. Cornhole is getting called up to the big leagues
and athletes Gavin Hammond and Jackson Remick are the ones leading the charge. The Colorado
teens just landed the first ever athletic scholarships to play the sport at South Carolina's
Winthrop University. What is your reaction to this exciting educational development? I'm shocked.
When we started, we just kind of did it as like a fun thing to do. Lifelong athletes, Gavin's focus had been
soccer and Jackson played baseball. But it was their family's interest in the old-fashioned
recreational cornhole that started them off on this unexpected journey. They went to like a bar
every week and just played like a little beer and bags type of league and then they got me
into it. The game has been growing in popularity for the past few years. Making its first
appearance on ESPN in 2018. Get up in there and flick. Get up in there. But like so many things,
These days, the pandemic signaled a huge shift for the sport.
Cornhole was able to find a creative way to put on safe tournaments for players as
Cornhole is a non-contact sport.
And we were able to get back on television before a lot of other sports and ride that momentum.
The game's low barrier to entry, making it appeal to a diverse set of players.
There's people of all different body shapes, sizes, athletic backgrounds, demographic backgrounds.
It can reach any different type of student.
These two college-bound athletes say it takes skill and a special strategy to take home the win.
We kind of like to play what's called like a dirtier game where we put a blocker kind of like right in front of the hole.
A lot of people don't know how to do it.
The American Cornhole League says other small colleges are looking to start their own programs to drive up enrollment.
Winthrop is throwing its hat into the ring, planning to start its own division one team around Jackson and Gavin.
who were both getting partial scholarships.
But once the school gets the team up and running,
they're hoping for sponsorships and maybe even a full ride.
Kind of growing this division and paving the pathway for all these younger kids.
All thanks to that game with a silly name.
Stephen Romo, NBC News.
All right, that does it for us tonight.
Thanks so much for watching Top Story.
I'm Tom Yamison, New York.
Stay right there.
More news on the way.
Thank you.