Top Story with Tom Llamas - Thursday, March 26, 2026

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tonight, the emotional and raw sit down with our beloved colleague Savannah, her first since her mother was abducted from her home. Savannah revealing the moment she realized something was terribly wrong. And for the first time sharing new information about the crime scene, including that the back doors were propped open, what she's now saying about the ransom notes, including what she thinks is real. Our experts standing by with where the investigation stands, plus how Savannah's faith is carrying her through, including the moment she says she heard God speak to her. Breaking right now, President Trump says he will sign an emergency order to pay TSA agents what we know about the move as long line stretch for hours spilling outside of major airport terminals.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Also tonight, President Trump extending the deadline on Iran again before the U.S. attacks the country's key infrastructure. Are the two sides talking and the direct strike in Israel sending this car airborne? Wall Street meltdown. Markets have their worst day since the war with Iran began. The NASDAQ in correction territory down 10% from its high. Terrifying video of a helicopter crashing while fighting a wildfire, how the pilot somehow escaped. Zooming into court, a judge scolding a woman who appeared to be driving during an online court hearing, you'll hear their back and forth. Plus, Netflix is raising prices for a second time this year.
Starting point is 00:01:25 how much it will now cost you to stream. Top story starts right now. Good evening. It's been 54 agonizing days since Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home, and now tonight her daughter and our beloved colleague, Savannah, sitting down for the first time, describing these harrowing seven weeks in her own words. In an emotional one-on-one with friend and former co-anchor Hoda Kotpie, Savannah details the gut-wrenching moments she found out her mom was gone. She shares what it was like seeing these chilling surveillance images.
Starting point is 00:02:02 for the first time and reveals new details about a back door that was also propped open that night. Plus, the leads police are still following, nearly two months into this case, and why Savannah believes there are two real ransom notes in a slew of fakes. And perhaps most gutting, she opens up about the deep pain she feels, about the fact that her fame may have led her to mother's kidnapping. But she says her faith is carrying her through this unthinkable tragedy. Our panel of experts are standing by to break down where this case goes from here. But what we're We want to begin tonight with Savannah Guthrie telling her story in an emotional sit-down with Hoda. Take me back to the day. It was, I guess, a normal weekend for you.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah. The weekend your mom went missing. Tell me what you were doing and what happened. Well, we just, Mike, I had given Mike for Christmas a boys' trip to go play tennis, and so he had been gone for the weekend. So I took my kids, actually, to Carson's. So we had a beautiful, fun night together, and then I came home. And really, it just got home at the same time that Mike came home. We were just saying hi, putting down our stuff, and the kids were running around. And my sister called me, and I said, is everything okay? And she said, no.
Starting point is 00:03:18 She said, Mom's missing. And I said, what? Yeah. What are you talking about? She said, she's gone. And she was in a panic. I was in a panic. I'm like, call 911.
Starting point is 00:03:35 She's like, I did. We called them. They're here. And we thought that she must have had like some kind of medical episode in the night and that somehow, you know, the paramedics had come because the back doors were propped open, you know, and that didn't make any sense. We thought maybe they came and there was a stretcher and they took her out the back. But her phone was there and her purse was there and all her things.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And it just didn't make any sense. So, you know, Annie and Tommy had already called all the hospitals, but then I'm like, I'm going to call the hospital. So then I started calling the hospitals and the police were there and talking to her at the same time. And it was just chaos and disbelief. Almost immediately, Savannah got on a flight to Tucson. You saw Annie and Cam when you got it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah. To their house. Tell me about that moment. Just disbelief and hugging each other. And I think we were on the phone with the sheriff and trying to, you know, really make clear as, I mean, from the very early moments, you know, Annie and Tommy were saying this isn't,
Starting point is 00:04:53 this isn't that case that you are used to where someone wanders off. She can't wander off. My mom, her, she was in tremendous pain. Her back was very bad, you know. She was trying to, on a good day, she could walk down to the mailbox and get the mail, but most days not.
Starting point is 00:05:13 So there was no wander off. And the doors were robbed open. Yeah. And there was blood on the front doorstep. And the ring camera had been yanked off. And so we were saying that. This is... Do something.
Starting point is 00:05:30 This is not okay. Yeah. This isn't... Something is very wrong here. Yeah. Did you guys talk about what possibly could have happened... Like, what could have happened? What went down?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Did you... I think my brother... I mean, my siblings are so amazing. My brother, you know, he spent his career in the military. and worked in intelligence and it's a fighter pilot and it's brilliant and
Starting point is 00:06:09 he saw very clearly right away what this was and even on the phone when I called him he knew and he said I think she's been kidnapped for ransom and I said
Starting point is 00:06:28 what? What? What? Well, why? And then, I mean, it sounds so like how dumb could I be, but I just, I didn't want to believe. I just said, do you think because of me? And I said, I'm sorry, sweetie, but yeah, maybe, but I knew that. You did?
Starting point is 00:07:00 I hope not. I mean, we still don't know. Honestly, we don't know anything. We don't know anything. So I don't know that it's because she's my mom and somebody thought,
Starting point is 00:07:21 oh, that girl, that lady has money. We can make a quick buck. I mean, that would make sense, but we don't know. But yeah, that's probably, which is too much to bear. to think that I brought this to her bedside that it's because of me.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'd just say, I'm so sorry, Mommy. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry to my sister and my brother and my kids and my nephew and Tommy and my brother-in-law. I'm like so sorry. I'm so sorry. If it is me, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I'm so sorry. We want to thank all of you for the prayers for our beloved mom. In the initial days, you and your sister and brother sat together in all the despair you sat and managed to think of words to say. Were you able to do that in that moment? Well, my siblings are amazing.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And we are a unit. And I talked about how brilliant my brother is. but my sister is equally brilliant and also has special powers of intuition and faith and language and depth and heart. And I feel like we came together with all these beautiful gifts
Starting point is 00:09:17 that came from our mom and dad and from God and somehow together. we did our best to come up with the words to say. And I haven't posted one thing or said one thing that the three of us haven't decided together. It is surreal. It's how is it possible that we are having to make a video speaking to a kidnapper
Starting point is 00:09:56 who took an 84-year-old woman in the dead of night in her pajamas with no shoes without her medicine, this little person, and to beg for mercy. In the days after Nancy's disappearance, notes demanding payment were sent to various media outlets. The ransom notes or ransom requests came.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Did you believe those to be real? There are a lot of different notes, I think, that came. And I think most of them, it's my understanding, are not real. And I didn't see them. But, you know, a person that would send a fake ransom note really has to look deeply at themselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:56 To a family in pain. But I believe the two notes that we received that we responded to, I tend to believe those are real. Really? Mm-hmm. When the ring camera video surfaced and you could see who that person was, just tell me what you thought when you saw those images of the... the person who took your mother.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I mean, it's just absolutely terrifying. Yeah. It's just totally terrifying. And I can't imagine that that is who she saw standing over her bed. I can't. That's too much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And I'm glad and grateful to the investigators and the technology companies that were able to find that video. Do I hope, at least with people of good heart and compassion, stop the irresponsible and cruel speculation that had started to swirl? Let's talk about that for a minute. I'm glad that people saw what came to our door.
Starting point is 00:12:47 When you talk about the cruel, speculation, the whispers, the innuendo, that it was somebody in your family. How did you weather that? It's unbearable, and it piles pain upon pain. There are no words. There are no words. I don't understand. I'll never understand. And no one took better care of my mom than my sister and brother-in-law and no one protected my mom more than my brother and we love her and she's our shining light she's our matriarch she's all we have savannah and her family stayed together in arizona we had to move houses many times because people came and not everyone is respectful unfortunately you know
Starting point is 00:14:03 there was a night we had to leave in the dark in the desert holding hands me and my sister and brother and I get into a car waiting for us
Starting point is 00:14:17 to because the people outside we were closing in so we found a place that was safe and then
Starting point is 00:14:31 um Then we couldn't really leave too much. So, like, those days are a blur. Yeah. Crying and praying. How did your family feel about the way the investigation was conducted? Well, it's still going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And people have worked tirelessly, tirelessly. And we see that. But we need answers. We cannot be at peace without knowing. And someone can do the right thing. And it is never too late to do the right thing. And our hearts are focused on that. You know, it was a hard decision for you,
Starting point is 00:15:27 and I know you told me about this, was coming back here, leaving Arizona to come back to New York. Why was that so difficult, that choice? I looked out the window of the airplane I just thought, where are you? That desert, that beautiful desert that she loves. Where are you? How could I leave you?
Starting point is 00:15:59 But my mom taught me a lot about grief. Our family knows grief. My father passed when I was 16 years old. He was only 49. It was a shock. And I remember my mom saying, in those early days when daddy died, like you have to get up and decide and do.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Just decide and do. And she had read that in a book that meant a lot to her and her grief. And so I remember, I always remember that. So I'm trying to decide and do. Just get up and decide and do. day. You know, I've felt terrible grief and I felt fathomable love and comfort. The goodness and kindness of God is remarkable and in equal measure to my sorrow.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Savannah Guthrie is showing so much strength there. And later in the broadcast, we'll hear more from Savannah about her faith. A faith, she says, her mom Nancy instilled in her. And of course, our thoughts and prayers are with the Guthrie family tonight. We did learn a lot in that interview. And I want to bring in our panel of experts to talk about those revelations and about where the case goes from here. There are people who have been following this case for us and this story for more than 50 days here on Top Story. I'm joined tonight by Mary Ellen O'Toole, a retired senior FBI profiler, John Monaghan, a former NYPD captain and Brian Martin. He's a homicide and cold case detective, his first time
Starting point is 00:17:53 on Top Story. Mary Ellen, I wanted to start with you. We heard from Savannah there that the back doors were propped open when the family and the police got to the house. What does that tell you about this crime and about the suspect? I thought that was an incredibly important piece of information. And to me, it suggested that the offender or the offenders propped open those doors. It also suggested to me that they may have carried Nancy out of the home and not walked her out of the home. And if that's the case, that again tells me that there was certainly a lot more planning to this ahead of time than maybe was initially projected. And then when Savannah added that she was barefoot, there may have been a pair of slippers that she always wore
Starting point is 00:18:39 and they were there by the bed. If that was the case, again, they had prepared to carry her out of the house and not walk her out of the house, which would explain what might have been in the backpack because you would have needed different kinds of materials to be able to make sure she didn't yell or scream or to restrain her. And I noticed you said they. Do you think there's more than one suspect? When I heard them talk about propping open the door, which to me suggested they could have carried her out, that might have suggested two offenders.
Starting point is 00:19:14 But I will say this when you have two offenders, there's usually one who is not as committed to the crime or the aftermath of the crime. That person would be more, I think, affected by what we heard and we saw during during Savannah's interview just now. So Brian, we talked about those back doors being open, but we saw the suspect on camera at the front door, which was also where the blood was found. What do you make of this information?
Starting point is 00:19:41 I find it very interesting that the backdoor is obviously used in some manner, whether it was to enter the home or to exit the home. I like the fact that there's blood drops out front. And if we're to believe that Ms. Guthrie was carried out of the home, It's also logical to believe that maybe one of the assailants left those blood drops out front, and that will provide vital information as to who they are. In the picture of the one assailant, you do see that he's wearing some type of latex glove. That's a little concerning because it obviously could hinder the possibilities of DNA and getting touched DNA.
Starting point is 00:20:19 But I would not count anything out of the picture as far as DNA evidence, especially with the blood droplets, and the fact that they had to move through the home if they went from the front door to the back door. And I have found that when somebody comes into a home, they're going to leave a trace. They're going to leave some part of them or some part of an add to that crime scene. And that's always beneficial to help identify our assailants. John, a lot of information that we learned that is new to the public investigators, obviously have had this information. You've been talking to us about this since day one here. You've learned this new information.
Starting point is 00:20:58 What do you gather? How does it change your theories or your thoughts on this? It doesn't change it much. My thoughts are that he's not a criminal. I look at that video. I don't see a criminal. I see a mentally ill patient. And instead of looking for a criminal,
Starting point is 00:21:10 Tom, there's two parts to this. I do believe that Nancy may still be alive. They may be out there. If it is what I think it is. Why do you say that? How can you say that? I've been saying it all along. It's not a kidnapping of a truth.
Starting point is 00:21:23 sense of the word. It's an abduction, but it's not to compel a ransom or any other type of act. I think he's mentally ill. What I would be looking at on the databases of 911 calls for the last two years for what we call EDPs, mentally disturbed persons, friend, family, coworker calls up. They need help. They need to be taken. I'd look at all those calls, develop a list of the people that fit the physical description. While you're doing that, I would interview every one of her church, let me say this. Nancy was going to a church with a small group. in private houses. That's post-COVID. Pre-COVID, she was part of a very large congregation that shut down for COVID.
Starting point is 00:21:59 The congregation reconvened after the shutdown, but they maintained their small elite group. All it takes is not a mean, evil thought, but a normal human reaction to say, can you believe she didn't include us in that on the phone, and maybe use words like elite, snob, and a household member ends up on a list that we developed of mental patients? Yeah, there's a lot of, I know those are a lot of steps there. I know those are theories right there, but I know what you're saying. saying, Brian, you're an expert in cold cases and you cracked one case that have been cold for 30 years. It's only been about 50 days in this case. Is this considered a cold case in your eyes or is it still
Starting point is 00:22:34 very much active? Oh, I believe this is very much, very much still active. There is a lot of information to go through. There's video surveillance. There's electronic surveillance. And what I say electronic where there's cell phones, there's cell phone towers, there's video surveillance from the surrounding area. I know it sounds like a very extensive canvas for video surveillance has been done, but that can always be expanded out as well. And you never know what you're going to get back from a cell phone or a cell phone tower and to weed through that information and start cross-referencing against tips, watch pattern of life for vehicle traffic or foot traffic that may have been around the area for the week or two prior that you now don't see and ask the investment.
Starting point is 00:23:22 I'll ask the question, okay, why did we see this every day? Why did we see, for example, a red truck go by every day for two weeks, and now we haven't seen a red truck since he had done? Mary Ellen, about the ransom notes. Savannah says she believes two of them to be real. What do you make of that that there was, indeed, if it is true, two ransom notes, and they have since maybe stopped from what we know, because we don't know if they've continued?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Certainly, great question. So if the ransom notes stop, that could be because the offender felt that they were too much attention was being paid to the case. But one of the things that I think was really striking to me is that even if the ransom notes are genuine, it seemed to me that even more so that Samantha was really the second, and maybe the primary even victim in this case. My experience working kidnappings for ransom is that they may result in the demand for money, but the victim is selected because of something in their background that caused them to be targeted. Here's what I mean by that. We always do a victim assessment on violent crimes.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Someone may have selected Samantha because of some previous encounter. Savannah. Yes. Savannah, because of some encounter in their background, some shared experience, even going back years ago. So doing a full assessment of her background, who she's talked to, her experiences, along with Nancy, can be extremely helpful. Because I think the question for me, was it just for money, or was it because there was a perceived wrong with Samantha, or Savannah, who also happens to have maybe quite a bit of money? So I think that's an important distinction there. Yeah, John, what do you make about the ransom notes?
Starting point is 00:25:16 It's not something you hear about as much as you did, I would say, in the 80s and 90s. Maybe they're not as high profile, they don't get as much attention, but this feels like a different time in our country. And yet now we're hearing about these two ransom notes and this abduction. I don't think they're real. I don't think it's a traditional kidnapping. It's unlawful imprisonment by a psycho. The guy's nuts. I don't think the ransom notes are real.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And if I'm right, that means there's a chance he's okay because it's a lot. psychotic person like that is going to try to care for her. You know how they found a backpack where it was purchased? Are they looking for the meds that she's supposed to be on? Because someone like this who's doing this for a very odd, non-compelling motive would be trying to take care of her. Let's have hope that that's the case. Brian, what do you make about the ransom notes, which seem to be the other sort of big clue
Starting point is 00:26:03 that we learned about here? I think we have to take the ransom notes for what they are. And what I would try to do is I would try to gleam additional evidence from those. have the FBI do a workup. They'll analyze the handwriting. They'll analyze the tone in the letters. But we could also try to get fingerprints from the letters. There's also a potential of gathering DNA from those letters. And at some point, if the letters would ever be released, there's a possibility that if it's a unique writing style or a verbiage that is used, there's a possibility that a family member or a close friend of the assailant, could recognize that writing and help point us in the right direction as well. Mary Ellen, Savannah has gone public now.
Starting point is 00:26:51 How can this help her case? It really can help her because we believe there are people that will really empathize with her. There are people, these people will suspect or maybe even know that their next-door neighbor or someone that they know that they're related to is responsible for this. know it's been a very long time, but even following the Unabomber, which was years in progression, once the manifesto was published in the newspaper, his brother came forward because he recognized the writing, but also there was a sense of the damage that his brother had done with all the prior bombings. And so I think this appeal to someone that knows the offender or the offenders
Starting point is 00:27:38 that has empathy for what Savannah is going through can be very compelling and can be very successful, all it takes is that person to come forward. Before we go, John, briefly, how do you keep the investigators intense? How do you keep them motivated? How do you keep them on this case after 50 days? Conduct more and more interviews. No matter who you've interviewed, interview him second time and a third time, and a good investigator knows how to let them talk and just listen, find out about people in their lives. This guy's connected to them. I don't think the Rensman was real. I think he's psychotic. He's a mental patient. They should be looking at Those databases, it's a whole new avenue to look through.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Look for people who have been treated for mental illness, who have been brought it to custody for mental illness, potentially violent. That's a new avenue. John, Mary Ellen, and Brian, we thank you for joining us tonight. If you have any information about the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, here is that FBI tip line once more. A reminder, those tips can be made anonymously, and there is a reward. You can see even more of Savannah's interview tomorrow morning on today and here on Top Story as well. Still ahead. We're following breaking news on TSA travel meltdowns. President Trump said to sign an emergency order to pay TSA agents what it means a security line stretch for hours. Also breaking tonight, President Trump extending the deadline for negotiations with Iran where the volatile situation stands.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And runway intruder, a man running onto the tarmac after plowing through an airport gate, how he nearly made it on board a plane. Stay with us. We're back with breaking news. President Trump announcing on truth social he is ordering the department. Department of Homeland Security to pay TSA agents. This comes amid hours-long TSA wait times, and as Congress is set to leave town tomorrow with no deal to fix the mess, NBC's Tom Costello has the late developments. So, Tom, this comes on day 41 of the partial government shutdown, and TSA officers have now been working more than a month, of course, without pay. Some of them have been quitting. Well, about 500 have quit, and we've seen call-out rates every day around
Starting point is 00:29:49 11% nationally as of course these officers try to take a second job just to make ends meet. So with that in mind, with apparently no compromise on Capitol Hill, the president a short time ago took to truth social, and this is what he said. Quote, I'm going to sign an order instructing the Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullen, to immediately pay our TSA agents in order to address this emergency situation and to quickly stop what he calls the Democrat chaos at the airports. Calling it using emergency or calling it an emergency allows him, therefore, to draw on unused government funds and apply those funds to pay these TSA officers nationwide. 50,000 of them now, of course, have gone without pay. They've missed a total of one and a half
Starting point is 00:30:33 paychecks, one and three quarters of a paycheck, and they're expected to miss another one tomorrow. So for a lot of them, this has really become a matter of a day in and day out survival, not able to pay the rent and the mortgage, struggling to. to put gas in the car, struggling to buy food. All of the above have really put a lot of pressure on these TSA officers. And then, of course, the administration, the Republicans, and the Democrats are feeling the heat from the traveling public during spring break with these horrifically long lines at some airports. By the way, Democrats blame Republicans. Republicans blame Democrats.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And today, there was yet again no sign of significant progress. So we don't know how long it will take until officers are actually paid. But with this announcement, we'll be watching tomorrow to see, in fact, whether officers show up on the job in greater numbers than they have been over the last few weeks, Tom. All right, Tom Costello for us. Thank you. Coming up, a pilot's narrow escape after a firefighting helicopter crashed into the flames. It was battling. Look at that. The dramatic video, plus what happened to the pilot. And Netflix price hike. The company raising costs on all subscriptions will tell you by how much. Stay with us. We're back with the latest on the war with Iran. President Trump announcing he's pushing back his deadline for attacking Iranian power plants to make more time for negotiations, even as he says he doesn't care about reaching a deal.
Starting point is 00:32:03 They're begging to make a deal. The opposite of desperate. I don't care. In fact, we have other targets we want to hit before we leave. And tonight, Iran launched a new wave of strikes, including this one. Look at it that hit a residential street in Israel. just sending that car airborne on impact. The attacks coming after Israel's military said it killed the Iranian naval commander
Starting point is 00:32:25 in charge of the Strait of Hormuz. NBC's senior White House correspondent Gabe Gutierrez has been tracking all of this from the White House. And Gabe, so the president is extending that deadline by 10 days. Explain what's happening now. Yes, Tom, a lot of fast-moving developments late today. The president posting that as per an Iranian government request, he's now pausing that deadline, as he mentioned, to strike Iranian energy plants by another 10 days. He added that negotiations are going very well.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And, Tom, this is despite those ongoing airstrikes throughout the Middle East. Now, Pakistan's acting as an intermediary. The Iranian foreign minister, however, insists that these are not formal negotiations. And according to Iranian state TV, Tom, the regime rejected the U.S.'s 15-point peace plan. Now, also today, as you're seeing right there, this was the president's first cabinet meeting since the war began. And the president revealed what he meant when he were first. referred to a present from the Iranians that made him think new talks were worth it. He first mentioned it earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:33:24 He now says Iran allowed 10 oil tankers to safely pass through the Strait of Hormuz. The White House, however, has not provided any more details about those ships, Tom. And then, Gabe, I have you here. If you were looking at your 401K today, it was a little tricky. The war is also hitting Wall Street pretty hard? Yes, extremely hard. That uncertainty about this war is helping. pushing the NASDAQ down 10% from its previous high. It's now correction territory. And today
Starting point is 00:33:53 was actually the worst day for the S&P 500 since the war began. Also, crude oil prices just shot back up to around $93 a barrel, Tom. All right, Gabe Gutierrez tracking it all. Gabe, we appreciate that. Here to discuss the state of the war is retired General Mark Kim and he's a former assistant secretary of state for political military affairs under George W. Bush. General, we thank you for joining Top Story with the president further delaying strikes and dismissing the need for a deal. What's your sense of what the U.S. strategy is right now? Well, I think it's twofold. Number one, there will be negotiations. It is true they're not face-to-face negotiations or either proximity talks. There are indirect negotiations at this point, indirect talks, where they're basically handing pieces of paper through the Pakistanis.
Starting point is 00:34:43 But this is where it starts in terms of negotiation. But I think the president is also committed to fighting his way to the negotiating table, which is he may take a pause here and there, but he appears to be committed to continuing the war until there's a resolution in the favor of the United States and Israel. What do you take of the president's comments that Iran is desperate? Do you believe that? Look, I think when you're talking about negotiations,
Starting point is 00:35:11 what you say in public and what you say in private are often, if not usually, different things. Yeah, that's a good point. As Gabe mentioned tonight, the economic impact of this war is hitting new milestones. Let's put it up for our viewers here. In large part because Iran has stopped movement in the Strait of Hormuz. Our average national gas price is now $3.98 per gallon. That's up a full buck since this time last month. Outside of a deal, does the U.S. have military options to get the straight flowing again? Well, we certainly have a lot fewer options that we had during the 1981-198 tanker war, where we escorted the Kuwaiti tankers through the strait. I think the best option, oddly enough, is to have our allies do this. We're a belligerent in this war.
Starting point is 00:36:01 We are seen as the enemy. So for us to try to go through the strait of Hormuz would be considered a wartime act. On the other hand, those who need the oil and liquid natural gas more than anybody else are the Europeans and the Chinese. They are not belligerents. And does Iran, by attacking them, want to bring them into the war? General, there seems to be two schools of thought here. One, they're going to keep negotiating. They're going to try to strike a deal.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Or two, this is all a masquerade. It's a mirage, if you will, because they're going to eventually send ground troops and try to take Carg Island there in the Strait of Formuz. try to control the strait. What school of thought do you think is right? Well, I think a connecting Karg Island, which is a source of revenue for the Iranians, and taking the strait of Hormuz, which is a strategic choke point, are two different issues. Putting the 82nd or the Marines on a Karg Island does not seem to me to be the wisest way to prevent that oil from leaving Karg Island. That does mean we need to destroy the infrastructure, perhaps a cyber attack on those pumps, perhaps a limited attack on the transmission lines.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I think there are ways to stop the oil coming out of Carg Island without putting American boots and troops on the ground. Do you think we're going to see troops on the ground? I think I would like that this administration does everything in its power to try to solve the problem before they consider putting boots on the ground. Who do you think has the advantage right now, General? I would say that we have the advantage in terms of attrition warfare. We're knocking out their capabilities significantly. I fear that that's very much like a body count from Vietnam thought process.
Starting point is 00:37:48 The more you break, the closer you are to peace. The Iranians use a resistance model, a resistance warfare, where they believe they take the heat, they take the deaths, those are just martyrs, and they wait us out. Very much like their Afghan neighbors who believe, that the Americans may have the watches, but we have the time. General, it's great to have your opinion, and we appreciate you being here on Top Story. Now, in Top Story's news feed, we're going to start with some breaking news.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Alleged serial killer Rex Sherman is now expected to plead guilty in the Gilgo Beach murders. This is according to two sources familiar with the case who spoke with NBC News's, NBC New York's, I should say, Greg Sergel. Heerman is charged with the murders of seven women whose bodies were found buried on a Long Island, New York Beach. He was arrested back in 2023, more than a decade after the remains were discovered. Hureman is expected to make that plea change in court on April 8th. And just in tonight, the White House announcing President Trump's signature will appear on printed currency. It's a huge first for a sitting president. The White House says the move is to mark the country's 250th anniversary.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Treasury Secretary Scott Besson's name will appear on currency as well. And dramatic video showing the moment a helicopter crashes down in South Africa. Take a look. You see it as it falls. before slamming into the side of the mountain. The helicopter was part of a crew fighting a fire in the area. Local media reporting the pilot only sustained minor injuries. And Netflix subscriptions got a little more expensive today.
Starting point is 00:39:17 The streaming giant raising prices for all of its plans. The ad-supported option is up $1.00, now $8.99 a month. The standard plan is increasing by $2 and will cost you $1999. And premium plans also going up by $2 to nearly $27. It's the second price hike in a year. Just ahead, chaos on the tarmac and alleged drunk driver plowing his car through an airport gate before trying to board a plane. What happened next? Plus, Do you think I'm that stupid?
Starting point is 00:39:46 A judge blasting and defendant appearing to drive during a Zoom court hearing, you'll see those wild exchanges. Stay with us. We are back now with a shocking scene on the tarmac of a Florida airport. A man who authorities say was drunk crashing through a gate and attempting to board a running plane. NBC's George Solis has the video. Unnerving moments on the tarmac in Daytona Beach, Florida. I was an airport that is doing donuts. Authorities say that's Brian Parker caught on video running towards his plane. Police in pursuit as he attempts to board the aircraft but was unsuccessful. We had a flew Mustang pop onto the field, park on a tax way. We're trying to get a whole guy who came out of it now. Authorities say the 58-year-old initially rammed his Ford
Starting point is 00:40:34 Mustang through the gate of Daytona Beach International Airport, entering the active taxiway and runway sparking an immediate emergency response, nearly striking a flight school plane. Another angle appearing to show the suspect sprinting towards this moving plane. Student pilot Skyler Inber was there. I don't know how he didn't hit somebody or we didn't hit somebody. And it was pretty shocked to see him get out of the car and start running around on the airport's grounds. Parker was eventually apprehended.
Starting point is 00:41:05 The Volusia County Sheriff's Office releasing video of his arrest saying he was highly intoxicated. I went to an A meeting and the next thing I know I'm doing cocaine, drinking and smoking pot. So you were doing all kinds of drugs and ran through a gate? Yeah, and I crashed my car. The airport today writing, no aircraft operations were affected and the incident is under investigation. Parker now facing a number of charges, including felony trespass and indecent exposure. The shock on the tarmac coming to a speedy close. George Solis joins us tonight, and George, that suspect appeared in court today. What did we learn?
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah, Tom, the judge saying she had a number of concerns based on the seriousness of the allegations. He was assigned a public defender, and he tried to argue for a case for Bond. Ultimately, it was denied. He is set for another pretrial hearing date at a later time, but basically saying he was denied, Bond, very concerned about the allegations, and that's where the case sits for right now, Tom. Okay, George Solis for us. We want to turn out of Michigan where a virtual court appearance is taking the Internet by storm after a defendant went toe to toe to with an angry judge over a single clear accusation that she was appearing while driving. Here's Maggie Vespa. You cannot be driving, ma'am. What are you doing? Come on. I'm not driving. I'm a passenger in a car.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Tonight, virtual courtroom drama gone viral after a Michigan woman zoomed into her appearance Monday, seemingly. from behind the wheel, though Kimberly Carroll claimed otherwise. I'm sorry, I have an emergency. I'm going out of town for a family member, but I will have my driver pull over. Detroit area judge Michael Kay McNally, not having it. Am I crazy or does it not look like you're driving that car? I'm not driving the car. I'm a passenger in the car, sir.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Judge McNally demands Carol, the defendant in a civil debt collection case, turned the camera. Let me see the driver. Hang on one second. I have to ask their permission. Now, you're not in the drive. You weren't in the driver's side. Do you think I'm that stupid?
Starting point is 00:43:16 In the post-pandemic era of virtual appearances, viral mishaps are stacking up, like this overexposed police officer in Detroit. You got some pants on the officer? No, sir. That same judge, scolding a multitasking mom. I am properly good.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Is that a wrong? And who can forget this Texas lawyer famously stuck in a feline filter. Don't know how to remove it. I've got my assistant here. She's trying to, but it's not, I'm not a cat. The misbehavior on Zoom has dragged down the level of decorum such that judges routinely, and I can't believe I'm saying this, have to tell litigants on Zoom to put a shirt on, get out of the bathroom, or stop driving your car. As for Kimberly Carroll. I'm entering a default judge. You lied to me. She's not responded to our request for comment,
Starting point is 00:44:09 and it's unclear if she has an attorney. I'm not putting up with the merit nonsense. Good luck to you. And with that, Maggie Vespah joins us tonight from Chicago. Maggie, that video, it's just so wild to watch. At one point, the defendant and the judge even argued over whether driving during court was against the rules. So is it?
Starting point is 00:44:29 I mean, Tom, at this point, it's still, if you can believe it, unclear. We've asked for the paperwork that that specific court in Woodhaping, Haven, Michigan gives defendants, especially those appearing virtually. We haven't yet received it. The judge, even at one point during the hearing, asks his own staff to double check that same paperwork, and they said they would need time to do so. He didn't get an answer during the appearance. But Danny Savalos, our legal analyst, who heard from in that piece, says it's more and more common that courts need to write specific rules against some of the behaviors that you were I would deem
Starting point is 00:45:00 a little strange, like appearing while driving, appearing without a shirt on, and appearing from the bathroom. Tom? Yeah, you sort of hit them all there. Okay, Maggie Vespa for us. Maggie, we thank you for that. Still ahead tonight, we're going to take a turn and go back to our good friend, Savannah, in her own words, the emotional sit-down weeks after her mother's disappearance. The moment she says she heard God speak to her as she holds on to her faith in this unimaginable time. Stay with us. Finally tonight, Savannah Guthrie's unwavering faith instilled by her mother, Nancy, has given her the resilience and hope during the darkest time imaginable. Here is more of her interview with Hoda, reflecting on the power of prayer.
Starting point is 00:45:45 When you posted, please pray in the beginning, the ocean of love and prayers, did you feel that? Did you sense what was happening? I do feel prayers, you know? I too, I believe that. I think she would have been just amazed, just truly amazed. Tell me about your mommy. Just tell me about her. My mom is, she's incredible.
Starting point is 00:46:15 She's resolute and strong, quiet strength, quiet faith. She's funny, a little mischievous, I would say, in her humor. She's a noble creature. She does what's right. She walks in faith, but not a fake, pious put on faith, but like a grounded, earthy. She fought for it, faith. She stayed strong for us. She was resolute.
Starting point is 00:47:06 She was real. she grieved. I remember moments in my childhood. And those days after my dad died, she was so strong. But some mornings before dawn when she thought we were still sleeping,
Starting point is 00:47:28 I would hear her crying at my door to not be alone in her grief. So she taught me to be strong, but she taught me to be true. My faith is strong, Mm-hmm. And resolute early on that I heard of one of the very few times in my life. I did hear God speak to me.
Starting point is 00:48:19 As I said, to myself, I can handle anything, God, I can handle anything. I just can't handle not knowing. We can't handle not knowing. Yeah. I have to know. And I heard a voice, and it said, you do know where she is. she's with me she's with me
Starting point is 00:48:48 so whether she is on this earth still or whether she is in heaven I know where she is I know who she's with but we need to know Savannah Guthrie talking about her faith there still ever strong
Starting point is 00:49:18 again if you have any information that could help investigators find Nancy Guthrie here is that FBI tip line and you can see even more of that powerful interview with Savannah and Hoda tomorrow morning on today. That's going to do it for us tonight. We thank you for watching Top Story. I'm Tom Yammis in New York. Stay right there. More news on the way.

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