Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Acid Test Return: Toronto Mike'd #396

Episode Date: November 9, 2018

Acid Test talk about their current tour before kicking out the jams.

Welcome to episode 396 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Propertyinthe6.com, Paytm Canada, Census Design and Build, and our newest sponsors, Palma Pasta and Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair. I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com and joining me are Steve Fall and Lucy DeSanto from Acid Test.

Welcome back. Great to be back. It's awesome. And where did you come from? Where did you wake up this morning? I woke up in Kingston. Kingston. Kingston, Ontario.

Yeah, it was a pleasure coming back into the city. Back in the six. And it's been raining all day. Did that wreck? You had to take the 401, I guess. Yeah, there was snow, and then there was rain. There was snow, then rain. I forgot there was snow.

Oh, yeah, I forgot too. Because we didn't get it here, but I did hear was like around us a little bit messy so okay so first let me tell people if you want to hear the uh the first appearance from uh acid test go to episode 328 and i'll read my description i wrote so uh in this 328th episode, Mike chats with acid test vocalist Lucy DeSanto and guitarist Steve Fall about their sonic rise in 1992, lengthy hiatus, and triumphant return

to take care of unfinished business. I'm a good writer. That was a good description. That was pretty good. Yeah, that was great. I'm reading that. I'm like, it's almost like you had a PR agency to get together. That was all. I'm reading that. It's almost like you had a PR agency together. That was all me.

You're hired. Good, because I have my own digital services company now. I'm looking for new clients. Tell me about this tour you just did. Fill me in on some detail. You guys were just on the road? Yeah, we're still in the middle of it, actually. We did a little word

of a warm-up. Our drummer lives in Montreal, and our keyboard player, Adam, lives in British Columbia, and Tim said, it's my turn. We're doing East, and I was like, absolutely, because he's been coming in from Montreal to start tours and shows in Toronto all the time, so we decided, why not? We'll go up to

Tim's, and Tim has a righteous studio there. We rehearsed for two days and did a show in Montreal. It was great at Mademoiselle. And then we kept going into Kingston, played at the Toucan. And now we're on our way, decided to do, obviously come here and say hi. And then tomorrow night we're playing at the Garrison at Indie Week. So that's, tomorrow is November 10th. We're recording this on a Friday evening. And what time are you guys on stage tomorrow? We are apparently on at nine o'clock.

It's an early show, which is great for some people, including us. 40 minute set. 40 minute fast set. Don't miss it. It's good for us old people who have trouble now with these late shows. I mean, I think I was at a Rusty show. I don't remember where it was actually anymore, but it was not too long ago, a few months ago.

And it was like, I feel like it ended at like two in the morning or something. And I was zonked. Yeah. We played in Kingston last night till 2.15 in the morning. And yeah, that was something. That city likes to stay up late, I'll be honest.

This is a college town, right? So we did a two-hour show and they were still amped. It was nuts. So tomorrow night's the big Toronto show. So you're in Kingston and you're in Montreal and you're in Ottawa? We didn't make Ottawa

this round. We decided to make it short and sweet but we're going to be hitting it again. We've had band discussions. This was kind of like the idea of doing the mini thing was to see if we could decide to keep going. And we've decided to go to Plan C, which is to keep going. And we're talking about more dates and Ottawa will definitely be on that list. By the way, Lucy, last time you were here, it was just before Biff Naked was coming over and you said, say hi to Biff for you.

And I did say hi to Biff for you, and she says hi back. Oh, that's so good to hear. Awesome. And I'm going to play just to remind everybody. I mean, you guys are all going to go back to 328 if you need a refresher. But I like how it sounds in the headphones. Yeah, it's good headphone noise. So this is Mr. Skin.

That's you, Lucy, and we're going to hear this tomorrow night at the Garrison. Yes. So that's fantastic. And you also, I mean, of course, you have your new album. And remind us, Just Right, am I saying that just right? You are doing just as well. You got it. Don't put the T on just. It's just right.

That's right. I'm bringing down, apologies to Mr. Skin. I'm bringing down Mr. Skin because there's a new jam that gets stuck in my head all the time. This is from the new album. Yeah, slipping away. I woke up turning blue from thinking about you Open door in creep today I took a look around, seems like no one's in town

And whoever has nothing to say So I throw my hat into the ring And hand out everything To tell a tale about Yesterday The earworm part is coming up soon. There it is. There it is. That thing was like in my head for forever when I heard it at the garrison last time you guys did it. Awesome. It's like an earworm.

Awesome. That's what it's all about. It's like a virus, right? It's like a virus. Yeah, except a little nicer than that. Similar, similar. Earworm, like in Wrath of Yeah, except a little nicer than that, but similar, similar. Earworm, like in Wrath of Khan,

remember? Wrath of Khan? Oh, Wrath of Khan, yeah. How did we forget that? Oh, man, I was really young when I

saw it in the theater, and it gave me nightmares. Yeah, it was Carlo Montefiore's finest, wasn't it? Yeah, it was in his element.

I don't even like thinking about it. Now, this is a perfect time for us to listen to a question for you guys from Brian Gerstein. So I'm just going to let Brian take it from here.

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If you haven't seen Acid Test play live, you don't know what you are missing, so just go. Guys, is there going to be a follow-up release soon now that the creative juices are flowing? That's a great question, Brian. Nice question. You guys take it from there. I need to hear this.

Well, part of what goes along with being together as a band is like, especially from guitar players, I'll point it out, but it's like, look, this is a new riff. We got a new riff. It's amazing. It's amazing. And I'm like, wow. Wait, stop. Let's record that. So I'll come up with a vocal line. Adam, check this out. And it kind of rolls

from there. So yeah, we've got a few ideas in the can right now in the mock recording stage, our demo recording. So we, we've got a few ideas in the can right now in the mock recording stage, our demo recording. So we're going to aim for early, well, next year, early 2019. Yeah. Actually, what's happening is we're bagging ideas right now, Brian. To be honest, we're talking about doing some dates in Ontario in May and then going out to BC to play in August to do some festivals and some other dates out there. And Adam lives out there, so he's like,

let's start the ball rolling. So I think we're going to start. We've got another guy we're working with with Adam, and there's been some names tossed around, so we're talking about another record. Yeah, that was actually a big discussion when we all kind of convened in Montreal. Exciting. That's exciting.

Now, where are you living? Speaking of people living in Montreal, people living in BC, where the heck are you living right now steve i am now at royal york and dundas i know we came in and uh brian was a big assistance with me trying to help me get settled uh i finally found a place i'm at royal york and dundas so i'm close by i'm so street i'm sneaky here yeah you're very close to me we should be hanging out more we she was just saying that on the way and she's like you guys should be hanging man i'm like yeah i know that on the way and she's like, you guys should be hanging, man. I'm like, yeah, I know. You know what's right in the middle of us? Like I think if you were to take a map

and see what's in the middle between me and you, it is Great Lakes Brewery, like rural York and Queensway. How convenient is that? I mean, that could be a great meeting spot for us. And I mean,

I'd be all over that. It's a crappy day out there today, but as soon as spring rolls around and man, it's nowhere better, no better place to be on a Friday evening than on that patio. I completely agree. Yeah.

So I'm there. This is going to be an interesting, potentially awkward moment here, but I like that. It makes for good broadcasting. Absolutely. So I'm going to give you a gift. Steve, you're going to be all over this. From Great Lakes Brewery, who are great people, there's a six-pack in front of you, Great Lakes beer.

Yep. And that is for you to enjoy. I will enjoy this. Canuck Pale Ale, I'm all over that. Yeah, there's, I think there's,

over my dad's bought in there, and some, yeah, there's those Canuck Pale Ale, we have an assortment, we have, we have, Octopus wants to Fight IPA.

I like the artwork there. I love that. That's amazing. Got to do that one. Yeah, that one's great. Very psychedelic. Pompous Ass English Ale. That would be me.

Yeah, that's perfect. And then we have, let's see, we also have Over My Dead Body. That's a Pilsner. Actually, you know, Pilsner, I'm kind of feeling Pilsner these days. That would be my jam, I think, for sure. Over My Dead Body. Yeah, we got double on that. That'd be my jam, I think, for sure. Over My Dad Body. Yeah, we got double on that. Yeah, that's looking great.

So Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery located here in Etobicoke. And Steve, as you know, 99% of all Great Lakes beer remains here in Ontario. GLB is brewed for you, Ontario. And Lucy, let me ask you, if you don't want to talk about this, that's fine, but would you like to share anything regarding your sobriety? Anything at all? It's up to you. That's cool. No, it's cool that you ask.

And I totally think it's awesome. The Great Lakes Brew, brewed in completely Canadian, Ontario, and awesome. I, myself, I drank a lot of this stuff in the past. Not just this stuff, lots of stuff. And made a decision not long ago to kind of, I guess, reclaim my state of being just me and not altered in any way. And I started to like it. I started to feel better.

And it's kind of a new way of living. I started to like it. I started to feel better. It's kind of a new way of living. Actually, for Indie Week, I did an interview for a health and wellness panel. They brought up a couple of us who were rock and roll and recovery people.

It was an honor to do that interview. I'm just wanting to put it out there that it's cool. Yes, you can still be rock and roll and sober. Well, Biff Naked is. She's a straight edge is what the term I've heard. Straight edge is totally exactly. She's got it. So I have my coffee

and the coffee's good. But I am appreciating... Is Steve taking both six-packs home? Is that what I'm hearing? Most likely. More than likely. I will share with the other boys in the band. Yeah, we got guys in the band. I'm glad. But I did want to give you the six-pack so you can at least share the love with somebody.

Thank you. It's always good to give a beer to a neighbor and the next thing you know, they're shoveling your walk. There you go. That's a pro tip for you. So enjoy that. And Lucy, thanks for sharing that.

I knew that and I wasn't sure whether you were talking about it or not. But do you also work with people who are in recovery or trying to defeat alcoholism? Part of my recovery was kind of like I had to put a lot of stuff aside. And in fact, if you want to look at the hiatus that acid test took, a lot of it had to do with I just kind of needed a break and get myself together and healthy and on a path of living this way which meant for me not for everyone at the time removing myself from all thing bars all things uh even with like live music and I I took all that energy because I have

a lot of creative energy um and I put it into school so I got my honors BA in psychology and I currently work in a residential treatment center. Good for you. As a counselor for people with all types of addictions, behavioral, substance, alcohol. Yes. What are your thoughts on the legalization of cannabis? That's always a topic of conversation. We were actually having this conversation last night with Adam, our keyboard player,

and talking about one good thing about it is that now that it is being regulated by the government like we can find out about really like what are the um the real side effects the real uh dangers and the real benefits that are there they'll be doing studies on it because now they kind of have that obligation so we'll probably learn more about it um I do see the benefit in like not going to jail for whatever, having a couple of joints. That I get for sure. Let's just hope that it is kept in, I guess, moderation and used. I'm sure everyone's going to be having their own.

Every building you go to has their own regulations around it. So whether it's employer, school, whatever. Well, you can't smoke cigarettes anywhere, really. So I'm sure it's not like you can suddenly light it up in the office or whatever. Just like in Ontario, you can't really have a beer just anywhere either. So it's almost like, yeah, I see. I think we're getting used to it. I think people have already kind of gotten accustomed to it.

It's not like the biggest shock. And I don't envision what i don't think is happening i don't think anybody like started smoking because it was legal like i mean i mean you know people have been smoking a lot of weed as somebody said to me uh this guy jamar mcneil he's a taking over for roger ashby on 104.5 channel 10 and he was over here he and he's like, he came from Chicago and he was saying, y'all smoke a lot of weed. Like there's a lot of weed everywhere before legalization. So, you know, I'm glad we legalized it.

But I don't think anybody said, hey, now that it's legal, let me order myself some Mary Jane. Yeah, I think people just smoke it because it's fun. You know, I think that was sort of the, well, at least when I was a child, a young person, I smoked marijuana, tried it, you know, but it wasn't really for me.

I didn't like the effects. So for me, it was, I did like the effects of beer and I went and I took my dad's beer and put it in my hockey bag, like most Canadian hockey players. And that was my illegal beverage of choice. It was legal, but illegal for me

because I was under the age of 19. But, you know, I don't have a problem and I'm responsible, but I do not smoke marijuana and I don't have anything against people who do. I love them dearly. All of them? All of them.

Every one of them. I heard that some jerks do smoke weed. I mean, most of the weed-smoking people are nice people. There's some jerks, sure. And everything else since your last visit? Do you smoke weed? I mean, most of the weed-smoking people are nice people. Yeah, they're pretty. There's some jerks, sure. Yeah. And everything else since your last visit. I mean, the tour is fantastic.

Tomorrow at the Garrison, that's exciting. Brian mentioned this, that he was at your last show at the Garrison, and I saw him there with his wife. They just celebrated some milestone anniversary, and if I were on the ball, I'd tell you which one, but I'm going to guess. I'll guess, I don't know, 20? I have no idea.

It's a big milestone they celebrated. Let's pretend it was 20th anniversary. Congrats. Congrats. Whatever that number is, Lucy and Steve say congrats. Absolutely. Any celebration of a union is a milestone. It's great. Yeah, absolutely.

He mentioned Danny Elwell. So Danny Elwell was just here. And I think I read a question from you, Steve, on that episode. Yes, yes. Danny, I'm a big fan of Danny's work. And she was at the Garrison at our last show. And I'm hoping she comes tomorrow night. She might pop in.

We don't know. We'll see. I think that's her backyard or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where as opposed to people like me, that's a... You got to travel a bit. We'll see. I think that's her backyard or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where as opposed to people like me, that's a- You got to travel a bit. We have to go to the other side of Youngstown. It's a bit far for you.

Yeah. Yeah. But worth it, of course. I was there last time. It was fantastic. Absolutely. Is Pete Fowler going to be there? You know, I hope so.

You know, Pete has always got the invite. Pete was DJing at our last show, and he did a lot of- He was the first person I contacted when the band got back together, and I said, well, what do you think? He's like, yep, this is great. So he's always welcome, and we'll see if he comes. I definitely invited him out, so we'll see if he shows up.

You've got to set a limo for him. I do. It's a little bit far. It might be a little costly. The nice thing is he can DJ, and he can be security at the same time. Absolutely. He could do that.

He's a multitasker. He's well worth it. But Pete Fowler, I'm actually under this sweatshirt because as Lucy and I were talking, we're both dressed like bums today. Is that fair to say? You can say that.

I made that conscious decision. I knew I was coming here. And I made that conscious decision because I'm a bum. No, I just took it in. No, I'm not going to mention names, but the sweatsuit that you had on last time, I'm like, I'm wearing that. No, I just took it in. No, I'm not going to mention names, but the sweatsuit that you had on last time, I'm like, I'm wearing that.

That's it. And I kind of just rolled out of Kingston and into the semi-vehicle that we call a tour van. You got to be comfy. Yeah. Especially on a day like this when it's cold. This is actually, so I bike every day, but this is the kind of day when it's cold like this.

Did you bike today? No, I didn't bike today. That's because this is kind of day when it's cold like this. Did you bike today? No, I didn't bike today. That's because this is the rare day when it's cold, but above freezing, but like two or three degrees and rainy. That's the one type of weather where I don't like to bike. The only one I don't like to bike. Yeah, it gets chilly on the bones. The wetness. Like, I don't

mind the cold, and I don't even mind the wetness. It's the combination that I do not enjoy. So I actually took the day off. But I'm wearing this sweatshirt, but I just want you guys to know and I don't even mind the wetness. It's the combination that I do not enjoy so I actually took the day off but I'm wearing this sweatshirt but I just want you guys to know and I want Pete to know I have a Lost Indie City

shirt underneath this. Absolutely. He's going to show us. Oh, he really does. He really does have it on. I just want him to know you guys can vouch for it. Absolutely.

I was wearing it. Time has come today. Time has come today. it. Lucy and Steve, remember the time. This is a new segment. Didn't exist when you were last here. Remember the time. On this day in 1967, the first issue of Rolling Stone magazine was published. Wow. I did not know that. That's a cool Stone magazine was published. Wow. I did not know that. That's a cool day. November 9. Wow. So that's maybe that's why the Leafs haven't won the

Stanley Cup. Although they do. Yes. Because this is after our last Stanley Cup. That's right. So this might be the reason. This could be the reason. The Rolling Stone publication has never existed along with a Stanley Cup championship. They've always been like two separate

things. Interesting. Steve, I know you're a fellow and Lucy, you're a big Leaf fan too. I grew up here. I have my Leaf hat on for tonight. Even though you're a Maritimer, you did not adopt the Montreal Canadiens. I did not. No. Back in the day, Dad is

a big Habs fan and still to this day. And back then it was like I had the Bruins and I had the Leafs. And so I was always rooting for those two teams. Well, you're half right there. Yeah. So I should also point out, I did a little homework once I learned that Rolling Stone debuted on this day in 67. And I learned that in the first issue,

Jan, I don't know if it's Jan or Jan Wenner, I think it's Jan Wenner, he explained that the title of the magazine referred to the 1950 blues song Rolling Stone, recorded by Muddy Waters, and the rock and roll band The Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan's hit single

Like a Rolling Stone. So he credits all three as inspiring the name. Oh, that's cool to know. Thank you for that fact. That's good trivia. I like that. Don't thank me

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And I've already given you all beer. But there's something else in front of you. Big, beautiful red boxes. And I want to get some Italian music going here. Oh, yeah. That's lasagna. What? You each get a lasagna.

Oh, wow. Frozen? It's frozen. Lift that box. Show her the weight in there. That's not an empty box. That's like heavy. It weighs 100 pounds.

Oh, wow. It is. It really is. So it's frozen. That's such a cool thing. That is amazing. Look at that. That's a nice packaging.

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By the way, Lucy and Steve, I need you to know that, because I talked to Anthony at Palma, and I'm like, what exactly do you do with these frozen lasagnas to prepare them? Because normally they have like an instruction sticker on them, but this doesn't have that. You cook it for 45 to 60 minutes at 350 degrees Fahrenheit. So now it's recorded here and you can go back and listen if you forget. In case we forget. 45 to 60. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now we're going to kick out the jams in just a moment, but I'm just going to thank a couple more partners here.

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Have either of you ever been to Italy? Well, I have to admit, yes. Where in Italy have you been? Well,

my parents were born there. So Abruzzi, which is one of the provinces kind of in the middle if you're looking at the boot, it's in the middle on the east coast on the Adriatic Sea.

Okay. Yeah, I've been there, but I've also done the touring of mainly northern italy milan rome florence all those i've been to yes i've been to venice okay have you been to chinko terra i think that's the five towns yeah that's that's what it means five chinko chinko terra on the italian riviera i guess they have the five towns you can hike between the towns. I have not been there.

How was that? Oh, it's most picture-esque, like most beautiful place I've ever been to, I think. It's amazing. The photos, when you see a photo of it, you'll recognize it from like those great photos of the town. But Cinque Terre. Very nice.

So how do you guys want to do this? Do you mind? What if I kicked out a Steve jam, and then we did a Lucy jam, and then we just flipped it back and forth? Yeah, yeah, sure. Is that cool? Absolutely, yeah. All right.

I like to start with this Steve jam. So let me ask you in unison here. Are you ready to kick out the jams? We are ready. Kick out the jams. Oh. Mams. Welcome to the jungle We got fun and games We got everything you want

Honey, we know the names We are the people that can find Whatever you may need If you got the money, honey We got your disease In the jungle Welcome to the jungle Welcome to the jungle

Okay, now my heart rate is going. I'm all ready. Steve, as if I need to ask, why do you love Welcome to the Jungle by Guns N' Fuckin' Roses? Well, you know, true story. This has a lot to do with it. Very dear to my heart, that band, the original inclination of that band.

I was a young pup at 18 years old getting ready to leave the nest of Halifax. And I helped a very drunk, tall person back to his hotel. And his name was Duff McKagan at the time. Wow. They had just finished playing with the cult at the Metro Center. And he invited me back, and we were partying. And there was a bunch of people in the room.

And Slash and I were talking and so was Ronnie. Ronnie was their roadie at the time. Get out of here. And, you know, one conversation went to another and I literally was leaving the very next day on a train to come to Toronto, to move to Toronto to make my fame and fortune. And I actually was almost going to hitch a ride

and get on their tour bus. And they were looking on their list and they just didn't have enough room for me. So I remembered that. And when I arrived in Toronto and saw, I actually got to see Guns N' Roses for the first time with the cult at the C&E, I believe it was, at the time. Went back, saw them again. And, you know, and that sort of, it kind of one thing led to another. And over the years later on, when we got signed, we had a booking agency in the United States. And it was a company called Artisan Audience.

And Alex Cotian was the owner, the president at the time. And his client was Guns N' Roses. And I had sent a telegram back to Duff in 1992 saying, hi, Duff. I just wanted to, you know, we're here with Alex and he's my agent too. Wow. Yeah, it was kind of cool. It's been a very inspirational band for me. Come on, you were partying with Slash.

I'm sure a lot of people have, but it was a memory for me, of sure. It was a good time. I guess, are we talking like 87? This would have been 87. That's just when Appetite for Destruction comes out. And this jam was, this was on the Deadpool set. Do you remember this being in Deadpool?

Absolutely, of course. Yeah, absolutely. And I think they should have stayed in this area. Of course, it's hard for bands to still stay where they should have been, but whatever. It was a good moment in history. But what a band and what a song. Absolutely. It's a great way to start.

And I think the Leafs should have this in their dressing room as their little theme song every time for the third period close-ups. Real inspiration. That's amazing.

I loved, I had this cassette, and I loved this cassette so much. I have a, see way back there, the, yeah, do you see the Appetite for Destruction playing? I do see that. I do see that. It's awesome. I had to move it because the skeletons scare Morgan,

who's two years old. She can't handle it. She won't come downstairs because Slash is a skeleton. Guns and fucking roses. Honestly, one of my... I loved being a teenager and just listening to Guns and Roses.

Amazing. Good choice. So now you get a feel for how this works. Lucy, Steve had to go first so he he had to uh be kind of the guinea pig but now that you see how it goes i'm gonna play some of the song i'll bring it down and then i just want to hear you tell me why you did the jam and your your jam is different so um i never know that's for sure because uh welcome to the jungle is like fucking welcome to the jungle there's a jam I know and love here, but your jam, I got to plead a bunch of ignorance.

So I'm going to play this, the exact version that you sent me, okay? Ripped from YouTube, and then we'll bring it down. You can tell us about it. Oh, my God. now we can talk a little bit up front on this particular jam, because I think there's several minutes before, right? All right. This is a long... Absolutely. You talk, and then I'll bring it up when there's...

Well, okay. If you recognize the tune, I'm thinking some people might recognize this tune. Yeah, no, this was kicked out. I'm trying to think if it was Robbie J., Rob Johnston, the Tool version. You got it got it okay so it's tool and when i i'm a big tool fan um what i like about tool is their um their odd time meter their tightness i love maynard's presence on stage um and it was an it's always wanting to be kind of in that aspect. But I looked at, well, here's me, female singer. And when I heard this track on YouTube,

or saw it on YouTube, and there's this young pre-teenage girl singing the vocals and a bunch of kids playing this tight song in odd meter, I was blown away. And I love her voice, and I think they're doing a fantastic job of covering Tool 46 and 2. Let's listen to them for a minute.

We'll come back to you. Coming through my shadow, my shadow. Turning to, I've been picking my sketch again. I think they're called O'Keefe Music Foundation. Yes, yes. Look them up, guys. Well, that's it. I want to let people know how to search for this. Because, yeah, O'Keeffe Music Foundation covering 46 and 2 by Tool.

Have you seen Tool in concert? I have, yes. In Buffalo, actually. And everything about their presentation is incredible. Tightness of the band, but the whole stage persona of Maynard. He is over the top, whether he's facing the other direction, whether he's in costume. He is just, it goes over any show I've seen.

You can always recognize, just from that, you can recognize a Tool song, almost like a Rush song. Kind of, yeah. And as a musician, I aspire to, well, just their musicality. Just from that, you can recognize a Tool song, almost like a Rush song. Kind of. You know what I mean? Yeah. The tightness. And as a musician, I aspire to, well, just their musicality, their tightness, their use of chordal structure, et cetera. Yeah. I'm a huge fan.

Very much like Rush. You got a good point there. Yeah, it's got that technical proficiency. You got it. Very well said. Steve, you're the guitar teacher, right? Yeah. We should tell people that

you will teach people how to play guitar. I will teach you how to play tool. Absolutely. And appetite for destruction, if you wish. Absolutely. Hey. And if somebody listening right now is like,

I want Steve Fall to teach me how to play guitar, what should they do to get a hold of you? Well, guitargurucanada.com is my website. And, you know, you can go on there. You can take a look at some pictures of my studio, which is at Royal York in Dundas. And my phone number is on there. You can hit me up on an email or phone.

And yeah, just guitargurucanada.com. Have a look and get a hold of me. And we can talk about your quest for domination with the guitar. That area, Royal York and Dundas, is that Humbertown? It kind of is, yeah. I'd say so. I think there's a plaza right there, Humbertown. Because that's the shoppers is in there?

Yeah. The bulk barn? Yeah, that's it. That's Humbertown. Yeah, that's right. We do our writing there in his little studio too. Yeah, a little sunroom studio. Yeah, it's a little place there where you can do some writing.

Someone came over who's a student of yours. Stacey Thompson. Oh, Stacey. That's right. Stacey's doing really well. Stacey's got a lot of musicality in her. Right on, Stacey. Yeah, Stacey's, yeah.

It was something she wants to do for herself, and we have a morning class every week, and she's doing really, really well. I'm willing to bet that was a Pete Fowler referral. It was indeed. And I should let people know that Stacey's winning some Zeppelin. She's doing very well.

She said to me, I'm coming over, I can't remember if she's coming over after or before she visited her guitar guru, Steve Falls. After or before she visited her guitar guru, Steve Ball. So, uh... Lucy, have you ever seen a perfect circle? Yeah.

Oh, my God. Love. Love. Absolutely. I'm kind of a fan of Maynard. I figured as much. So, uh... Like, that is amazing. I don't think anybody in that band is over the age of 12.

No, please take a look. Amazing. Yeah, very cool. O'Keefe Music Foundation. And thank you for picking something off the beaten path. Unlike the cliched Welcome to the Jungle that everyone Steve's age kicks out Welcome to the Jungle.

I know. We probably do. It's no imagination. Unless they do Sweet Child of Mine, which is also... Yeah, that's where I draw the line. Is that right? There's nothing sweet about me. That's not what I heard, but okay. Let's kick out another Steve jam. You guys like the long jams, FYI.

There's a certain Steve Fall jam I had to cut because my soundboard limits me to 10 minutes of jam. Believe it or not. It's probably how I was feeling at that point. But I like how this one sounds on the headphones too. It does. I'm hearing it, Steve. I'm feeling it.

Well, tell me about why you love Jeff Becks. Because we've ended as lovers. Well, I mean, just listen to the phrase. He's talking right now. Lots of time to hit the post on this one, Randy. When I first discovered Jeff Beck, I was listening into my Walkman. Yes. And home from school, I was getting ready to practice, and I would put this on for inspiration and phrase phrasing and sense of melody. and phrase phrasing and sense of melody you know and growing up in in a rural Nova Scotia it could be a little bit lonely at times especially you sacrifice

your your peer groups for practicing in your basement in your home and and so there was me and Jeff Beck and the song was part of my my guitar development for sure yeah amazing yeah and it feels right like i don't know it's kind of late on a friday we're all hanging out in my basement here and hearing this in the headphones i'm digging the rain with the rain you know yeah you know like you can't go out on friday night with your girlfriend you're 13 14 because like you have to practice guitar because you want to move to toronto when you graduate high school school so it's just you and Jeff Beck and you know that little

there you go. But you always knew like I'm sure I asked you this last time but tell me again like you always knew you wanted to be like a rock and roll star? Well yeah I mean obviously we would rephrase that today but I mean I always knew I wanted to do something with music and playing guitar absolutely

yeah I was just one of those you know some kids just can't grow out of that i want to be an astronaut kind of mentality and i was uh it was hockey and then when i realized hockey is like luck of the draw and all that sort of jazz um picked up the guitar and stay and was there a moment like a song that you loved early on that was like, I want to do that? This. This is it. This is the one. This is the one.

Amazing. Yeah, this was it. That's your superhero origin story. Yeah, this is the guy. Yeah, him and Hendrix. For sure. Yeah, absolutely. Amazing.

I could see the phrasing like Hendrix-y kind of. It's almost like you said, like he's talking, just the phrasing of the lines. And it's timeless. It's sort of the idea, if you're going to pick up something and do something, do it to make it you. And I think that's what I'm hearing with this. I mean, this track was recorded probably, what, 74, I'm guessing.

I don't know. And it's still fresh for me. Almost a little Santana-esque yeah same era yeah I would say so definitely they're all from the same ilk

all those guys yeah yeah absolutely I realize I like kicking out the jams with professional musicians. Like it's a whole different like wax because that ball, the wax, because it's like you all hear stuff in the music where somebody, a regular Joe or whatever. Oh,

there's a melody there. There's lyrics there, whatever. Now you've got a song and I like that song, but you guys, like I noticed with Lucy talking about a tool and you talking about Jeff Beck, Steve,

that there's like the musicality. You, you, you, you will see that because that's your life. Absolutely. Well, and I think, I, that there's like the musicality. You will see that because that's your life. Absolutely. Well, and I think,

I think that, you know, I think any listener would be able to probably pick up on that. I just maybe, I maybe understand what's going on with it now. But, but I mean,

I think that's, it moves you, it either moves you or it doesn't. And that's sort of the idea. That's a good point. And even, you don't have to be

professional for that. But yes, there is like that, that whole skill set that goes along with being a musician. So when you hear things, you're like, whoa, he's got that going on. He's got that. And there is like that that whole skill set that goes along with being a musician so when you hear things you're like whoa he's got that going on he's got that and they're doing that oh unless uh you were partying with uh duff and slash and that's then it's a

whole different story i saw duff playing he got up on stage at rock and roll heaven and i think he was also drunk too and yeah yeah i remember that remember that. He liked Toronto, I think, too. Yeah, yeah. But there was a power in that band that I saw live that I, you know, back in the day that I've yet to see. They were young and they were opening up for people and they just wanted to just kill it.

And I think that's just, you know, I don't care what the genre is. Just bring it. And that's sort of, I've always tried. And I can honestly say that I think that Acid Test brought it last night in Kingston. I thought we were all right. I thought we were in our element last night.

I saw on Facebook some positive reviews. Oh, right on. Cool. That's always good to hear. Good buzz. Now that Toronto knows you're on your game, they're all going to be excited about the garrison tomorrow night. Yeah, absolutely.

All right. Oh, yeah. Let's cover it. By the way, Lucy, do you have a love of covers because this is your second cover song oh my god i will i looked at it i'm kind of like a thematic type of person so i'm like i am going to like i love certain covers i love i like the original song obviously first things first but if a band can do it in some other way or bring some other element to it that was not there like a crossover thing whatever i i just love it yes because i will tease the audience

by saying this is the second cover you've chosen but not the last cover that you've chosen We'll be right back. How does it feel To treat me like you do When you've laid your hands upon me And told me who you are I thought I was mistaken I thought I heard your words Tell me how do I feel Tell me now how do I feel

How does it feel? How should it feel? How should I feel? Tell me how does it feel To dream things I can't do That's Orgy playing Blue Monday. Yeah. Excellent. Love Blue Monday. Amazing track.

That track on its own from New Order was like, I just kind of like cut through. I was pretty young and I remember hearing it. And I remember one of my teachers in high school was like, I really like that song, Blue Monday. And I'm like, wow, it's crossing all kinds of boundaries here. Even the conservative teachers love it. it's just a great tune um and when I heard Orgy do it I was like okay they're putting in that edge that I always kind of I heard in the song originally like it's

there Blue uh New Order had it but they just brought in that extra kind of industrial little bit of a metal kind of thing going on. Actually, it sounds a little like some acid test, to be honest. Cool. Yeah, well, we got definitely the industrial influence comes from Adam, our keyboard player. And yeah, for sure.

Thanks. That's actually a compliment. Thanks. I was trying to compliment Orgy. Oh. Aw. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to compliment Orgy oh yeah yeah

and it's always kind of amazing to me when a band kind of like gets known for their cover song like wow that's really cool it kind of opens the door well the best example that I can think of is your next jam but we won't talk about it yet but there's a jam where if you told me to name

two songs by that band, I would be unable to, but I can name that one. And this one too, I don't know another orgy song, do you? I don't think so. Well, I would recognize it. I don't know if I know the name off the top of my head. But see, that is a good point. But this is fantastic.

I should mention this. Maybe I should. I wasn't going to, but maybe I should. Well, it was brought to my attention by a young person that was a friend of mine's child. And she said, you know, Steve, Transformers soundtrack, I have it. I love that movie. I'm like, yeah. And she said, your band is in the liner notes is inspired by and it was a band called orgy and uh there was some samples of some acid test in the track yeah that's kind of a thing uh but i mean you

know what like that's where they were on the same sort of i guess distributor shall we say at the time that could have happened. I don't know. There was something in the liner notes that was kind of interesting. And yeah, that stuff happens. You should have opened with this revelation. I didn't really want to say it. I didn't know if it was appropriate to talk about stuff like that.

But yeah, but you know what? But we sampled music too. So I mean, that was the era where people sampled each other. And I think that's a good thing. Another artist that orgy, that song, Blue Monday, the cover there, reminds me of is Marilyn Manson. There's a lot of Manson going on there, too.

By the way, you mentioned, Lucy, your teacher. I remember I was on the wrestling team in high school. And we would start by having to run around the gym, just laps around the gym. And he always had on a continuous loop. Mr. Mills, his name was. And he'd have Blue Monday and Bizarre Love Triangle. No way!

Yeah, like just a loop for the warm-up. So teachers really were into New Order, I think, back then. All right, let's kick out another Steve jam. We don't need no education. We don't need no thought control. No dark sarcasm in the classroom. Dark sarcasm in the classroom. Teacher, leave them kids alone.

Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone. Pink Floyd, obviously, but this is another Brick in the Wall Part 2. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it was obviously a big part of my youth, Pink Floyd. And I used to, honestly, I used to cut class sometimes and would listen to this song. If I had a spare and I just wasn't feeling it, i would put that on with my walkman and there we go and it's so funny because now i teach music and i teach people so it's kind of how things go full circle yeah great track kill more great chat legendary track and uh lucy you opened with the o'kee Music Foundation, which was a bunch of kids singing along to Tool, and here we go.

These kids are back. Kids are here. Kids are alright. You know, it's funny, Steve. When you wrote me, you only wrote me, just so you know, you wrote me Pink Floyd, The Wall. Now, The Wall is actually the album, right? So I knew you, I knew instinctively you wanted part two. You got it completely correct.

And you know what? And I guess it was so hard to pick a track off that whole thing. It's like, just play the whole thing. But obviously, you can't do that. But this is exactly what I had in mind. And if you listen to the funky little bit of guitar, you'll hear a little bit of guitar. That was a big influence for me with Approaching Acid Test. We like the funk.

And I liked Gilmore's approach to the funk. Steve, did you ever manage to see Pink Floyd in concert? I did not, no. I remember when I was a young pup, when I first moved up here, I was working on Yonge Street at Music World, and they were playing that evening, but I had to work in the record store. I had to sell the records instead.

But I always wanted to see it. Never did. I could see a remake of it now, I think. Is that sort of what's going on these days? I have no idea. I missed out. Legendary band, but clearly an influence. Clearly an influence on me.

I remember being also in, it's funny how this is all reminding me of high school, and it's just like, yeah, when I heard this track for the first time, I'm like, that's right. I don't need no mind control. And they had that great cartoon to it, right? They did.

It was just like, blah. Yeah, that was like the early infancy of videos, right? We used to rent that and we would have little parties in my rec room and watch that thing. And yeah, it was fun. Groundbreaking. If you don't take your seats, you can't have any pudding. thing and yeah it was fun That's great Nice

DJ Mike DJ Mike's house Forget Fowler Nice. DJ Mike. DJ Mike in the house. Forget Fowler. I want the DJ gig tomorrow. You got it. You got it. You're there, man. To a one minute, with the blood stains on the carpet She was sitting at the day boat, you could see she was enabled So she ran into the bathroom, she was struck down, it was her doom

Annie you okay, you okay, you okay Annie? I don't even want to bring it down. I'm enjoying this smooth criminal alien ant farm. Michael Jackson cover. But again, your three out of three have been covers Lucy wow well it kind of covers because I like like I can't make decisions so I'm just like

okay well I like their version but I love Michael Jackson's song so now you're hearing both and again I just like I think I like the mix of like let's take this cool funk tune that's like classic

got the grooves and so tight and Michael I'm a big fan of michael johnson uh melodically like he just comes and his just his rhythmic use of phrasing uh big influence for me and when i heard these guys do it with the heavy guitars i'm like that it just knocks it home like i said again uh can't name a second alien I'm trying to think. But they did pretty good with this one.

Yeah. They definitely got tours out of it. They did have a few other singles and they do have fans. I think they were on tour not long ago. They're probably part of those 90s packages that tour. Maybe so. I don't know if you guys know, but

nostalgia is a very potent drug. A very addictive drug. I see that. Very well put. Thank you. I'm the phraseologist today. So Michael Jackson, it's hard to argue with that. I mean, in terms of

musical talent, like the man's ability to argue with that. I mean, in terms of musical talent, like the man's ability to create a hit, unparalleled, really. When you look back, even Thriller was a playthrough. It was great before Thriller, but Thriller was a playthrough, and then Bad, right? And this is from Bad, I believe, is it? Yeah, it was Criminal, yes.

But what is that lyrical thing he's doing there? Annie, are you okay? Are you okay, Annie? Yeah. Annie, are you okay? Yeah. Very good. And I love the way this band, Alien Air Farm, they take the guitar and basically the rhythmic

instinct tightness that they've applied to like, which is really a percussive thing going on. And they're playing guitars. I admire like tight instinct kind of riffs. I really, yeah. Anyway. apply to like which is really a percussive uh thing going on and they're playing guitars i admire like tight instinct kind of riffs i really yeah anyway see i'm learning a lot so lucy more than two cents that's a lucy toonie right there listen i'm learning so much about you and steve from this uh kicking out the jam yeah it's almost like if you played this in a disco tech, even the house music people would be like, this is pretty cool, man.

Yeah, so get them to like the guitar a bit more too. We're all about the rhythm. Now, you guys might notice I refuse to truncate a song. I'm going to play it through, even the end of that Pink Floyd jam. I see that. It's just a thing. I don't like to play it down.

But here's a little bit of an exception. This jam by Steve is really, really, really long, like in excess of 10 minutes. So I actually had to do a little trick there. But let's kick it out. I'm just going to say, it's Steve's jam, so I want to hear why Steve loves it.

And then I'll tell you why I love it. So here we go. So the first time I heard this track, I was watching a movie with my dad. My dad was in the Air Force and he had leave. He said, we're going to go see this thing called Apocalypse now. And there's a band on here that you might like. They're called The Doors.

And you should probably study that with your uncle. So don't ask me about it. I just want to watch the movie. So we did. Steve, did you ever watch the documentary about the making of Apocalypse Now? I did. Amazing, right? Yeah, absolutely.

Marlon Brando, eh? I think of him more than this morning. It was kind of neat to discover the song with the visual first. So it stuck with me. And it fit that movie perfectly. It did. Of everything that stands The end And it fit that movie perfectly. It did. It really did. And my story,

although it's a little different there, but it is the same in that this song reminds me of Apocalypse Now, which I used to watch on City TV, late great movies they play. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Very young Lawrence Fishburne on the boat. He was like 15 or something. Well, that's, yeah, that's the first time I saw and heard the song. I was young. When that movie first came out, I saw it in the theater.

Of course, I immediately discovered the movie. And I really liked that movie. I loved all those 70s Vietnam things. Yeah, me too. Martin Sheen was awesome. Yeah. In that Heart of Darkness documentary

you'd learn about his heart attack you know he was pretty young too yeah was it it was a heart yeah it was a heart attack

heart attack yeah and they filmed it in the Philippines and you hear about like they were borrowing the the choppers

the helicopters they were borrowing it from like Ferdinand Marcos. But he needed them to go fight like a resistance. Like there was like a civil war and some militia resistance. He's like he had to take the choppers to fight that. And then they'll bring them back for filming Apocalypse Now. Yeah. Crazy.

Crazy story. Yeah. It's interesting when you can like watch a film and discover music from it. I think that that should continue. I was a Doors fan way young, though. I had this vinyl, this record, The Door, and it basically over and over and over and scratched. Yeah, I was one of those Jim Morrison freaks who read No One Here Gets Out Alive

and convinced that he is alive somewhere for a long time. But I was at his grave in Paris. But maybe there's no one buried there. Ah,

that's interesting. Yeah, that's interesting. I made a trip. I was in Paris anyways. It's pilgrimage. Yeah, I had to go check.

He's buried in the same cemetery. There's a lot of interesting, Edith Piaf is in there. Oh, really? One of the great, is itith Piaf is in there. Oh, really? One of the great... Is it Bach?

Some great composers in there. I'm going to screw it up. How apropos? Oscar Wilde is in there. Wow. And that is Jim Morrison. He considered himself a poet, not a rock star. So how apropos for him to be buried with Oscar Wilde and Paris?

Where's Brando buried? That guy was a wingnut. Uh, like, I mean, I can't remember what he charged and absorbent amount. And he said he was, I can't,

there's so much, uh, nonsense he demanded. And then for the extra day, he demanded more money. Like it was kind of like extorting them for cash or whatever. Yeah. But he shaved his head,

right? Yeah. Cause he wasn't supposed to. I didn't know that. There's some power trip he was doing did live. Well, he shaved his head, right? Yeah. Because he wasn't supposed to. I don't know. I didn't know that. There's some power trip he was doing like that. It worked, though.

I know. Yeah, it all came together. Or he came really overweight or something. I can't remember now. But it's a fascinating documentary. Yeah. I want to watch that again.

It's been a while. It's actually, I love Apocalypse Now so much and I actually think that doc might be a little better. Like, it's so good. I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah, it gives you a whole take on, makes you appreciate how that movie came together. And it was Acopala's actually, I love Apocalypse Now so much, and I actually think that doc might be a little better. Like, it's so good. I think you're right. Yeah.

Yeah, it gives you a whole take on, makes you appreciate how that movie came together. And it was Acopala's wife, I think, was filming all this stuff, and that's why you have the doc. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And his whole family's in the film business. Yeah. Yeah. Sophia. And she was in The Godfather 2. That's right. She was the baby.

There's a lot of nepotism going on there. And so was Marlon Brando. Do you know, I guess you know this, Nick Cage is Coppola's nephew? Yes. He's in Nicholas Coppola. Yeah. Really?

Yeah. That's right. Yeah, there's a little bit of a... And the first time I saw Nicholas Coppola before he was Nick Cage was in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, which is another movie I loved because he's a very very small role but i like you mentioned that you know seeing these songs in movies and that makes you like love the song this is a great example the end by the

doors but there's like uh is she really going out with him joe jackson right yeah some jams like from fast times of ridgemont high or movies like that that i grew up loving i i love the songs because they remind me of the movies. It's true. It's absolutely true. You know, it's funny. There's a scene in I think it's Risky Business

with Tom Cruise. I don't remember what it was. It was like, I think he was going up the stairs or something. It was something slow, but there's a riff in there and it influenced

a little bit of my writing just whenever I come back. I go yeah that's that risky business riff I went over stuff I keep I thought it was gonna be some Bob Seger he's gonna it wasn't Bob Seger it was it was a slower I can't remember the jam exactly but it was it's a section in the movie but just goes to show the the the power of soundtrack which which we had a little bit of you know a little bit of exposure to it and I really like that's how we got our start

Highway 61 and then Talk 16 we did some music for Adrian and Janice on that and then we did a Naked in New York soundtrack we have a song on that Martin Scorsese just a few more it was nice to be able to you know

it's always hard to get the you can't always get the rushes from the directors but sometimes you can Scorsese I mean

we're talking about Coppola you know what a legendary filmmaker he was slash is although I say was because he never

I don't know when was the last time he had a great movie Coppola I don't know it's been a while it has been a while but Scorsese stays at the height of his craft another guy great movies in the 70s I don't know. When was the last time he had a great movie? Coppola. I don't know. It's been a while. It has been a while.

But Scorsese stays at the height of his craft. Another guy, great movies in the 70s, but making great movies now. Yeah. Scorsese, that guy's great. Yeah, oh yeah.

Goodfellas is a movie. There's so many songs from Goodfellas. Absolutely. I love that film. Gimme Shelter, for example. Yeah, perfect. It's just perfect.

Or the Ronettes. Yeah, there you go. It's like you're going in the back of the the Ronettes. Yeah, there you go. It's like you're going in the back of the restaurant or whatever. Yeah. By the way, Andy Kim was here the other day. He covered all these Ronettes songs. I remember Andy Kim. He covered Ronettes songs and had hits with them.

That's awesome. But I will say, some of Steve's jams, I'm surprised that he didn't take to marijuana, because a lot of Steve's jams really, I feel like lighting, I don't even smoke, I want to light a joint. I didn't need it. I mean, this was my smoke, you know? I was already there. I just needed my headphones and lights out.

That's it. Especially the Doors. Yeah. Jim Morrison. Yeah. So this is your favorite Doors song? Yes. Of course. It's on your jam list. Yeah. Jim Morrison? Yeah. Yeah. So this is your favorite Doors song? Yes. Of course.

It's on your jam list. Yeah. I don't know what my favorite is, but it might be a really long jam in the middle of like Roadhouse... Was it Roadhouse Blues? Is that what it was called? Yeah. Yeah.

Just... Yeah. Just... Good stuff, though. And L.A. Woman's a great jam. Oh, yeah. I love L.A. Woman. Of course.

Yeah. I'm sure the next Lucy jam is Billy Idol's cover of L.A. Woman's a great jam. Oh, yeah. I love L.A. Woman, of course. I'm sure the next Lucy jam is Billy Idol's cover of L.A. Woman. She loves the covers. I mean, I could have gave you more covers, but I thought I'd have to go with it. So here I am committing cardinal sin. Steve, with your permission, may I play down Jim Morrison? Oh, of course. Yeah, give your permission. Oh, man.

I almost hate doing it. I don't have to, Lucy. You want to keep it on? No. We're getting high together off Jim Morrison here. Jim Morrison. Sorry, my friend. Sorry.

Let's kick out. Oh, my goodness. A personal favorite. Let's kick out another Lucy jam. Hey, Bob. How we doing, man? It's been a while, man. It looks so good. This band's my favorite, man.

What's your number? Oh, man, you're the man? Oh, man. Oh, this is the best, man. I'm so glad we're all back together. This is great, man. You know about the party after the show? Yeah.

Oh, man, it's really bad. I'm so scared. Take it easy, man. Oh, me, baby. Goddamn, I am. I can sing and hear me. Know me. If you want to destroy my sweater,

pull this thread as I walk your way. Lucy, this is Undone by Weezer. Amazing. Love it. I just freak every time I hear this song. I by Weezer. Amazing. Love it. I just freak every time I hear this song. I think you like the crunchy guitar. Yeah.

The big fat crunchy guitar. Did you notice? I did notice. But I love it too. I love this album. I love this song. Oh my God. I think this is my favorite Weezer song. And I've seen them a few times.

I saw them this year. Oh my God. At Budweiser stage. They're still good. They're freaking amazing. And Rivers Cuomo did his like little acapella thing with his guitar. Amazing. Yeah.

Those guys rock. And all ages. I saw like 12 year olds with like 55 year olds with like, yeah. And it was just like everyone was into it. No, good to hear. Good to hear. What an album. This is the, we call it the blue album and i love it starts with uh my name is jonas it just goes man full throttle this album oh my lucy we'll get rid of steve and just rock out to the blue album man just just weezer. Amazing production. Yeah, and it's... Rick Ocasek. Rick Ocasek from The Cars produced this,

which I've always been a fan of the way, of the sound of The Cars records. Like, great sound. And I can hear how Rick Ocasek brought this, brought that to this band. Like, yeah. Love it. Yeah, good point.

Good point. And this is just, this was like the first, I want to say the first single off the album and then you had buddy holly and then video which was like on much music every uh 20 minutes every 20 yeah it became huge from that i think it's like this is the underrated song like yeah it was the first single but yeah buddy holly like just propelled them over the top but just rivers cuomo's lead singer amazing uh front man and just as a writer yeah he just

he's got a lot of passion and uh the guitar player amazing as you said crunchy guitars takes you right back to the 90s too right nothing wrong with that you know myyear-old nephew was listening to, my brother always plays him like stuff from the 90s, 2000s. And he's like, he just listened to kids and he's like, you know, they had better music in the 90s. There you go. And I'm like, that's right.

Anthony, you got it. That guy knows his stuff. Of course, Sadie and So is on this album album too and that's an underrated jam really see it's a oh love it daddy another thing you might see in the stuff yes the heavy crunchy guitars but everything has this like groove i have to hit like hand it to the drummers too like you can be like a solid drummer but if you've got that groove john bonham had it and most of these bands that i like have this like groove happening a lot of three four on this record a lot of yeah it's just sitting in the pocket so yeah yeah I hear a little Pixies influence. Oh, yeah, and that's who opened for them.

Yeah, that was a goal, to see the Pixies before I die, and I have a Pixies hoodie now. Oh, I remember I applied at Live Nation. I get on these media lists, and then at the last minute, they decide whether they have enough real media or not to invite me. So sometimes the Barenaked Ladies were at Massey Hall, and I got the call, okay, you got a great seat for the media section. So that's great.

And I was on the list for this one. I really wanted to go for free to get a good seat. Oh, wow. And I did not get the media ticket for this one. One of the best shows. It was a great show. It was a summer show. My brother Steve, if he's listening, I believe he was at the show.

But amazing. Yeah, you get a whole like, where's my mind vibe coming off at the end of that thing. Absolutely. Cool, cool. Speaking of movies, which was fantastic in Fight Club. Yeah. We should just spend an hour talking about songs

that we hear in movies that are great. But no, let's kick out. Oh, Steve, this is your last jam. That was fast. It was fast, yeah. Because we're having a good chat about all these songs. But here's Steve Fall's final jam. Oh my God. We just heard of a brand new way And we hope it's here to stay

We'll have to wait and see If it's half of what they say We heard he opened up a brand new door Well, you know that's what I'm looking for We'll have to wait and see If it makes you shout for more How do you like him so far? How do you like his show?

How do you like the way he rocks and the way he rolls? How do you like his image? How do you like his image? How do you like his style? How do you like the way he looks and the way he smiles? The kid is hot tonight So hot tonight But where will he be tomorrow? Okay, now it's a Friday night. The kid is hot tonight.

Yeah. It is Friday, isn't it? That's right. Okay, so, you know, part of my youth, right? My first concert was the Headpins and Loverboy. It was a toss-up because, like, Turn It Loud was the first live performance I'd ever seen in an arena with Darby Mills.

And we're Facebook friends now, which is nice. But yeah, this concert was everything for me. And these guys were in their prime. And you've got to represent a little bit of Canuck. Why not, right? From my childhood. Absolutely. Yeah.

Great band. This was your anthem, I'm sure, for years, right? Absolutely. Yeah, this record was big in Greenwood, Nova Scotia. It was a big record for everybody. Yeah. Absolutely. We were pretty amped up to get Loverboy and the Headpins

coming to the Halifax Metro Centre. And Michael Gary had to take us. That was the rule. But I know Guns N' Roses and The Cult came there. But did a lot of the big bands, they just would stop at Montreal? No, Montreal was as far as the Seas to think they got. And it's funny we should bring that up because I'm getting that myself on a smaller level,

like on Facebook, you guys come to Halifax. And we played Montreal, and of course my drummer is from Montreal. He's like, well, we're already East, aren't we? And it was just taunting people. And I shared a few photos from being on tour with some friends on Facebook. And they're like, come east, come east.

But it's interesting that now you realize, in Canada, as we talked about this in your first episode, how difficult it is to tour this country. It is very difficult. Like, it costs you blood cash, right, touring this country. Absolutely. You know, and we can only do little mini segments at this point in time. The record industry is not what it was. And we finance our tours ourselves.

And we have to pick our spots and do it strategically. And so we always say, you know, like, I know you're tired. But come out to the shows and see us and buy this T-shirt and buy the CDs and the vinyl that we've pressed for you. Because you can't buy them in a record store because there aren't any there's a few record stores around town that have our stuff but i'm blessed for being open i had the vinyl version of this amazing no i love it i mean the stuff you loved as a kid will stick with you forever absolutely and then when you hear it you're back it's like a time machine. That's right. Yeah, it is.

Interesting. My first record that I played over and over was the B-52s, the Yellow Album, whatever that was called. The B-52s, I think it was called.

And speaking of covers, that's one on our drop record with Warner. We covered Dirty Back Road from that record. Yeah, so love the covers. Lucy, I need to tell the people that when I asked for five jams each, Steve gave me precisely

five jams. The man's math was right on at the moment. Perfect. I got five jams from Steve, right? But I don't know. I lost track at some point. I think you might have sent eight jams. I think I did send eight. So now I realize, in my notes,

I have one song here, but then I looked on my soundboard, I have a different song. So I hope, I mean, this one, I copied and pasted it from when you sent it to me.

I'm going to let you choose. So we're going to play the song and then you can tell me, oh, Mike, you screwed it up, but I'm going to play this song believing it to be one of your jams, okay?

So forgive me, but let's listen. Oh, no, this is good. of your jams. Okay, so forgive me, but let's listen. I'm filling up on my walls There's a man outside In a long coat of greyhound smoking a cigarette Now the light fades out And I wonder what I'm doing in a room like this There's a knock on the door. And just for a second I thought I remembered you. Now, Lucy, tell us what we're listening to.

Gary Newman, Our Friends Electric. And is his band known as Tubeway Army? Yes, Gary Newman, his band. Exactly. Gary Newman and the Tubeway Army. Yes. You got it. Because I only know cars. That's all I know. Oh, is that all youPay Army. You got it. I only know Cars. That's all I know.

Oh, is that all you know? That's all I know. I know. Okay. Well, yeah. This was actually more of a European hit than North American. Cars was big everywhere. I just think, just listen to the layers. And you can hear, if you really listen, you hear the crunchy guitars in there. Even back in the day, I think he had that grungy, in-sync thing

happening with the New Wave era. I think you're right. And there's a great cover. I don't remember the name of the band now, but there was a big cover of Cars that was a hit like 15 years ago or whatever that was kind of in the vein of Orgy's Blue Monday. Monster Magnet?

No. Something like that. It'll come to me later. But you know, the reason I was confused at the beginning is because on my notes I have Gary Newman, Tubeway Army. That's in my notes. And then I'm looking at my song and it's actually called Our Friends Electric.

Fear Factory. Yes. And it was really similar to Orgy's Blue Monday. It had that same kind of crunchy electronica thing going on. And that's your wheelhouse. Yeah. We figured out Lucy, Steve. And we know Steve is the kid is hot tonight.

Yeah, well, that's, yeah, exactly. That's right, yeah. Amazing. Love the keyboards too. I just love it. And the kind of like steady disco-y funk beat going on. Fairly influenced by like craft work, if you will. And then what year do you think we're talking about here?

I'm trying to think of my year. Putting you on the spot here. I know. Is it 79 or something like that? Or am I off base? Yeah, 78, 79. Maybe 80, 79, 80. Yeah, between 78 and 80.

When Blondie first came out, all that stuff, 78. It was a good time. Yeah. It was kind of like after disco, then it's like this new wave, but it incorporated disco but brought it to this other realm. Blondie's a great example, yeah, kind of that new age sound there that kind of evolves out of the disco. Yeah, she had the Heart of Glass disco tune, but brought in the punk rock.

You know, it's interesting because now that we're talking about music kind of history here, we're listening to a lot of early acid test influencers. I remember that's when I was affected by music was between 78 and 80. And some people would argue and say, oh, that era sucked. But for me

it didn't. The music you loved as a teenager will never suck no it doesn't work that way oh yeah yeah that's true yeah i just feel sorry for all those youngsters not too young actually but those people who are like oh yeah like limp biscuit and that like this whole new metal that was when i was a teenager because you're stuck with that forever now yeah well i remember seeing I remember seeing the Sex Pistols on TV. Oh, yeah. Right when the disco era was kind of coming to a close.

And I saw them live on TV. And that affected me, too. I think you're, I guess we're nailing that era. We're all relating to it. And it's like, it was just like, disco was coming out. And I remember the disco sex movement and punk rock. And I was like into the disco and chic, le freak. And then I was all of a sudden into, like,ols and wearing like safety pins on my uniform in catholic school

and it was but i liked both and i feel like that's what acid test is kind of like yeah kind of evolved from that let's like why can't we have like loops going on and play heavy distortion and turn around do funk at the next jam yeah yeah like i, I mean, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Chili Peppers can take the punk, rock, pop, fusion thing and then whip it in some hip-hopping kind of thing. Absolutely. I wish they'd go back to that. Like Mother's Milk, right?

Yeah. Because Blood Sugar Sex Magic is the one that broke them. So, you know, the moms were listening to Undefeated. But now it's just a lot of ballads and that's where... And I get it. No, I find it boring now. The sound bores me now. But when I go back to Mother's Milk and I'm like, oh, my God. That's a great record. It's a a lot of ballads. I find it boring now. The sound bores me now. But when I go back to Mother's Milk,

and I'm like, oh my God. That's a great record. It's a great record. And they pay homage to Stevie Wonder and stuff. Yeah, yeah, Higher Ground. Absolutely. Speaking of covers, I'm surprised I didn't make your list, Lucy.

I know. If you want me to do a list of covers, I can do a whole show on that. Well, listen, at some point, maybe when the new album's coming out, you guys can come back and kick out top. Each of do a list of covers, I can do a whole show on that. At some point, maybe when the new album's coming out, you guys can come back and kick out top, each of you can pick five covers, but you can't pick any of these covers

you've already chosen. Guys, I can't believe it's already done. That was five jams each. The party just started. It was crazy, crazy fun. Oh, by the way, I always close with lowest of the low, and I just want to tell everybody that lowest of the low are coming here on Tuesday. Oh, my God.

Absolutely. That's great. Well, tell them a big hello. Yes, Asata says hello. Yeah, we used to share Russell's face back in the day together. We used to invade their space. I will definitely tell them, for sure. And then do you have any connection to Tom Wilson from Junk House at all?

Did he ever cross paths with Tom Wilson? We have not crossed paths, but we're well aware of them and respect them dearly. Yeah, he's got a lot of bands. I think now he's with Blackie and the Rodeo Kings or something. Yeah, that's right. But he's coming in on Thursday. Awesome. That's a good week. This is like a rock and roll week. This is the place to be, Matt. Absolutely.

You've got to be in Toronto Mike's basement. But guys, thanks so much. Good luck tomorrow night at the Garrison. If people want to buy tickets, where should they go to buy tickets? I think they can go online. It's part of Indie Week. It's part of Indie Week. So if you go to Indie Week Canada, you'll get right on there.

You'll get tickets. You can also pay at the door. You can buy a pass that'll get you into quite a few clubs if you want. A festival's going on tonight, tomorrow. Is Rusty in town for Indie Week? Do you know? I don't think they are but I know they're promoting their record heavily right now. There's a lot

of stuff going on with their new album. We're pretty excited about it. Long live 90s CanCon rock gods and goddesses like you guys. That's what I say. Thank you so much. And that brings us to the end of our 396th show. I like. Thank you so much. Mike. And that brings us to the end of our 396th show. I like that number.

396. It's all in threes. Even though Lucy can attest to the fact that I wrote 398 here. That's wishful thinking. This is actually 396. You can follow me on Twitter at Toronto Mike. Acid Test is at Acid Test Music. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer.

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