Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Alan Frew from Glass Tiger: Toronto Mike'd #1253

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

In this 1253rd episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Alan Frew about Glass Tiger, Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone), Someday, My Town, the Weezer sound-alike, his love of sports, his stroke and r...ecovery and so much more. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, the Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris, The Moment Lab, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Starting point is 00:01:13 PR. Advertising and production. You need The Moment Lab. And Ridley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community since 1921. Today, making his highly anticipated Toronto Mike debut is Glass Tigers' Alan Frew. Welcome to Toronto Mike's Alan. Hey, pleasure to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:38 How old you got to be, Alan, to move to this country and not sound like you're straight from Edinburgh? Well, I actually don't sound like I'm straight from Edinburgh to me because when I go to Scotland and I hear my pals, I sound like a bit of a... Like you're straight from Newmarket. Sort of. A little more polite maybe than them.
Starting point is 00:02:03 But I was 16, so, you know, all I did was play soccer, football, and hang out with Scottish and Irish guys in the pub and blah, blah, blah, and you don't change. Yeah, 16. Yeah, right, because, you know, you hear about the 4-year-old, the 5-year-old, they come over and that. Of course. Yeah, but 16, it's cemented, right?
Starting point is 00:02:25 You'll have that to that. And you know what? It works for you. I'm kind of digging it. I get this, you know, groundskeeper Willie vibe, but I'm digging it. I don't even think about it anymore. Well, it comes natural to you. So here's what we're going to do, Alan.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I have a lot of ground I want to cover, and I know you don't have six hours for this episode. So I got some audio loaded up. We're going to hit some high points. Man, I've been waiting a long time to chat you up on a few of these items. But I'm going to start with the lovely notes I got when I announced Alan Frew was making his Toronto Mike debut. So prepare to have your tires pumped.
Starting point is 00:02:58 You ready, Alan? Okay. Hamilton Mike wrote in, ask Alan if he remembers the Glass Tiger gig at Gage Park. Absolutely. Okay, this is so, I'll finish the note, then I want to hear your recollections.
Starting point is 00:03:11 It was the end of June 86, he says. It was a free music festival. He's pretty sure that they were booked at the end of 85, beginning of 86, because they were an up-and-coming band. And since this festival focuses on up-and-coming and mid-level established and or heritage music, not monster, hot-at-the-moment acts,
Starting point is 00:03:30 but between the booking and the actual show, their debut single, Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone, which we're going to talk about in deeper very shortly, it blew up and it was absolute Beatles-level mania at this show. Beatles-level. Since they were at that moment so massive. And being a free show, the crowd was enormous. It blew up and it was absolute Beatles level mania at this show. Beatles level. Since they were at that moment so massive. And being a free show, the crowd was enormous and the police were needed for crowd control.
Starting point is 00:03:52 My wife remembers attending as a nine-year-old with her aunt and it was crazy. What do you say to Hamilton Mike? He wants to talk about the Gage Park. He's absolutely correct. We tried everything to get out of that gig. The guy had booked it when we were up-and-comers, and we set off on tour.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And by the time we hit Edmonton, it was bedlam. And so we were trying to get out of this gig and warn him, like, you should not do this, and he wouldn't hear of it. And he put a little chicken wire fence up around a band shell and when we did the sound check there was like 20,000 people there and when we hit the stage it was like 70,000 wow and kids were getting crushed and fainting and a couple get run over their feet get run over with vans and it was just and i pulled the plug on it and it was a bit of a riot and it was just bedlam.
Starting point is 00:04:47 That's, I guess that is interesting phenomenon when you book a band, when they're up and coming and then between that moment and the time they hit the stage, their single blows up and they're, you know, it's Beatles level mania. According to Hamilton Mike.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It was, it was, it was insane. Wow. Okay. So this is good. We're going to do these notes off the top and then we'll have a little more chronological order. So this is all kind of a nice teaser.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But Johnny D writes in, he writes, The pride of Newmarket when I was growing up in the 80s. I got his autograph at a Newmarket Saints game one night. Sorry, I don't remember that. But how long were those Newmarket Saints there? I remember growing up with the new market saints yeah i again i don't know it wasn't long what two or three years or something like that i'll call up uh fotm gordon stelic and find out but he'd know he'd know he would know god would
Starting point is 00:05:36 know uh mark writes in cool i met him when the band was called Tokyo, and they played a dance at Madonna Catholic High School. Okay, so maybe I'll take this as an opportunity just to get the real origin story. So tell me, like, give me the origin story of Glass Tiger. You were called Tokyo? Yeah, it was the amalgamation of two local bands, one that I was in. And so Wayne Parker and the bass, Al Conley and guitar, and myself, we came from one band. Michael Hansen and Sam Reed came from another.
Starting point is 00:06:17 We joined forces. We started a band and we called it Tokyo. And we started to get really popular in the bar scene, especially in our area and eventually got signed. And, uh, as a, just as a,
Starting point is 00:06:34 a new launch, we decided, Hey, we've got this international record deal. It's a newly son life. Let's, uh, change our name.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And that's what we did. So Mike Rogotsky, uh, I just got told yesterday, Mike can't make TMLX 12 tomorrow, but if you're listening to this on May 10th, which is when we're recording, tomorrow is TMLX 12 at 6 p.m. at Marie Curtis Park,
Starting point is 00:06:56 and you can write me, mike at torontomike.com for directions. So that is tomorrow, but Mike Rogotsky won't be there. But Mike writes in, where did the name Glass Tiger come from? but mike ragotsky won't be there but mike writes in where did the name glass tiger come from um just really it was very uncomplicated uh you're probably sick of that question right like it's like is this guy really asking me the question i've answered a million times well you know what we used to the band would maybe be out in the van or back at the hotel, wait for that question, and whoever was asked it would begin with, well, it was just an arbitrary choice of words, and that would create a howl on the other end
Starting point is 00:07:32 because that was our code of saying not again. But anyway, Al Connolly, the guitar player, was reading a book by the writer George Plimpton, and the book was called Paperpton. Oh, yeah. And the book was called Paper Lion. It was about his experience with the Detroit Lions. Right. Came to rehearsal, said,
Starting point is 00:07:53 what have we called ourselves? Paper, I think he said Paper Tiger. And I said, eh, not bad. And I went home that night and just thought about it and came back the next day and said, how does Glass Tiger. And I went home that night and just thought about it and came back the next day and said, how does Glass Tiger sound? And everybody loved it, and that was it.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And the rest is history. Yeah. Okay. We're going to get right to the aforementioned single that starts it all, and I've got a bunch of questions related to that. So, Alan, I'm just going to play a bit of it, and then I'll fade it down,
Starting point is 00:08:21 and then we'll get to hear your much better voice than mine. But here we go You take my breath away Oh, love, things hit you still Oh, there's still so much for me to do And I can't stop loving you Oh, can this be true? That's the fake out there. I always think, here we go and get to the chorus.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And then it's like, no, it's a fake out. So hold on. I'm not going to fade this down until I get one chorus in there. And you were not there He finds me everywhere Oh, but you don't care Don't forget me when I'm gone My heart will break I have loved you for so long It's all I can take
Starting point is 00:10:11 I haven't heard the recorded version in quite some time. It still stands the test of time as far as I'm concerned. I was going to say, you're listening going, that's pretty damn good. Yeah, it's not bad at all. And that's the verse okay so i've got questions here holy smoke so where do i begin first of all i'm a canadian born and raised in toronto ontario canada so i know how often that was played a much music i know how often i heard
Starting point is 00:10:36 that on 680 all hits uh cftr but that was an american hit too right yeah it was a big hit it came so close to uh being a number one hit in America. It reached number two. There's reasons why it didn't make number one. Even Bruce Springsteen, as a singer, Bruce has never hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100. Yeah, it happens. So you're in good company.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You're in good company. Oh, hold on. Is there Brian here? Hold on. So how does Brian Adams get involved in this song? We hear him on this jam. Well, the song is co-written with Jim Valance. Jim Valance and Brian Adams are longtime songwriting partners.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Jim was the producer of the Thin Red Line album. And so Brian used to call the studio every now and again just to check in. A couple of times I spoke to him on the phone. I hadn't met him. And he said, I'll swing by the studio. I'm coming in for the Junos. And so we came to the studio. We met for the first time. We had a few beers. And Valens, whether it was contrived or just on the spot of the moment, Valens said, why don't you two crazies go on the microphone? And we did. And we sang two things. We sang Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone, and we sang I Will Be There.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And then we just went to the pub, and Jim took the voices, and that's what came out of it. So are we, correct me, you'll know, this album comes out, The Thin Red Line comes out in 1986, but is this recording in 85? Yeah, it would be Red Line comes out in 1986. But is this recording in 85? Yeah, it would be 85 we recorded it, yeah. Okay, work with me here Alan. Okay, so Jim Valance, of course
Starting point is 00:12:12 was a co-writer of Tears Are Not Enough. How close were you to being invited to the big recording of Tears Are Not Enough? We just, we missed that window. We just missed the window. Yeah, if it was like six months later I think you know. We just, we missed that window. We just, just, just missed the window. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 If it was like six months later, I think he would have got like, you'd be right there with, with Neil and Joni and Brian and Corey and all the gang there. That's yeah. Just missed it. Cause the Jim balance production, I think that's a fun fact too.
Starting point is 00:12:40 He's been, well, not in addition to Brian Adams, he's been a co-writer on some pretty cool jam. Oh yeah. you still friendly with jim oh of course yeah we um it's not like we text each other all the time but we have a a bond that'll last a lifetime and uh i still consider him a friend in the u.s is don't forget me when i'm Gone the biggest Glass Tiger hit? Well, it depends on how you want to look at it. Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone rocketed up the pop charts,
Starting point is 00:13:17 but Someday also went up the pop charts, but it went up the adult contemporary as well, so it was a big hit on two separate big charts. So it's the way you... There's actually an award at home where Someday was one of the ten most played songs of 1987 in America period. When I come home The telephone
Starting point is 00:13:37 Say you're waiting for me I ask you why I hear you cry, but you're still waiting for me. I can give you a pretty amazing tidbit of trivia. You had me at hello, Alan. So on the very first day we ever worked with Jim Valance, he picked us up at the airport in Vancouver. Very first day.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Never worked with him. Don't know anything really about him as a producer. He picks us up at the airport. On the way in, he asks me, who are you listening to these days? I mentioned bands like Jesus Jones and I mentioned Tears for Fears. So he stopped at Sam the Record Man. He picked up a couple of albums, bring it to his place. We're having a cup of tea.
Starting point is 00:14:59 He's playing them. And the song Everybody Wants to Rule the World comes on and Valens goes oh a shuffle beat so he runs to studio creates this little shuffle beat Al Conley tinkles on a guitar and I immediately go don't forget me when
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm gone as a verse so we start don't forget me when I'm gone Al Conley and Sam Reid were smokers at the time We take a break, they go for a smoke Valens is on a keyboard He does this little chugga chugga chugga chugga And I immediately go
Starting point is 00:15:33 When I come home, you telephone When I come home And so on the very first day with Valens We write Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone And Someday Wow And both of them win single of the year with Valens. We write Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone and Someday. Wow. And both of them win
Starting point is 00:15:47 single of the year, the Juniper single of the year, back to back from the same album. It had never been done. Wow. In both top ten hits
Starting point is 00:15:55 in the US charts. Yeah. Wow. You know, any time a story like that strikes you, Alan, you just spit that into the microphone.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I'm collecting them all here, okay? I've waited a long time. I've waited 1,253 episodes for Alan Froude to make it. But thanks for doing this. If I haven't said that already, thank you for making the track because we could have phoned this, we could have Zoomed it, but I was
Starting point is 00:16:16 like this asshole who said, Alan, we got to go big or go home on this one. I'd love to get you in the studio and here you are, man. So thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Okay. So now I have questions that came in about the cassette. So a few of these, I'll read them. They're all kind of related here. But T.O. Resident writes in,
Starting point is 00:16:36 How did the red cassette tape happen? I remember seeing this in 1986 and being blown away. But before you answer T.O. Resident, Moose Grumpy says, I had the Red album the first thing I think of with Glass Tiger is the Red album I thought it was so cool I wish I still had it so wow what's this Red
Starting point is 00:16:56 I don't remember is it Red cassette tape? Yes it is but I think the person with the Red album might be getting mixed up. Capitol Records decided they wanted to do a limited edition run, make them great collector's items. And so they did a clear vinyl, like it was glass.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Okay. And they did a clear single, like it was glass. Like translucent? Yes. You know, you could not quite see through it, but it looked like a piece of glass. Amazing. And they did a limited run of about 10,000 of those.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And of course, the album sold like 7 million copies. So they're very rare. And then they put out a red cassette, just as, you know, sort of signify the thin red line. Right, of course, makes complete sense here. So right off the bat, you know, sort of signifies the thin red line. Right, of course, makes complete sense here. So right off the bat, you know, the thin red line produces these two monster hits. I mean, not only do you get the Junos, right, but you, I think you've won like five Canadian Junos, five Junos in your lifetime.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But where are those Juno Awards right now? I have to ask everyone if a Juno Award. They're in a box. No, I moved. I never had them up for years and then I gave them to my parents and my dad displayed them and then when he passed I got them back.
Starting point is 00:18:14 About two years ago I put them up in the place I was in and I've since moved again so they're sitting in a box. Living in a box. Okay. That's another great 80s song okay so the grammys okay we're uh you were nominated for best new artist in 1987 yeah who won that do you remember uh bruce hornsby ah he has no range come on but i'm bump where's my uh yeah my room there
Starting point is 00:18:41 shot there all right so jim valance you you got brian adams that's a fun fact because i think it's one of those things where like a lot of people know it of course that's brian adams but then i had an exchange the other day of a guy who directed this new much music documentary in fact i'm gonna ask you about the role of much music in a second here but uh i dropped that fun fact on him and he he didn't seem to know it like he was really like his mind was blown. Oh my God, Brian Adams is on Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone? I'm like, yeah, that's a distinctive sound.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah, really. And next I'll blow his mind and tell him Sting is on the Dire Straits song Money for Nothing. I'll blow his mind there too. So what role does much music play? You guys were everywhere in the 80s yeah there's no doubt about it it was major much music for us was the equivalent of mtv for duran duran it you know we dare i say we kind of owned much music a little bit for a two or three year
Starting point is 00:19:40 period they were very um um you know you know they to have them promote us the way they did they were so they were invaluable that we couldn't have done it without it was the video age everybody was going crazy um i guess we were considered a bit of a boy band and had a look about us and so everybody was all over it and they played us like crazy and, and absolutely helped launch the career without a doubt. Any battles with the guys from Platinum Blonde? I mean, I've known Mark for years.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Cause he's on Tears Are Not Enough. So they got in. Yeah. I remember being in the States and I was getting ready to promote Thin Red Line and I was waiting to go into a big radio station and there was a record rep across from me sitting with albums in his hand. And he was from Warner Brothers, I think,
Starting point is 00:20:37 and he had like Bruce Springsteen and a whole bunch of stuff. And I went, oh, what's that? And it was a Platinum Blonde album. And I said, hey the canadian boys oh you know you're promoting them well and so i always felt there was enough room for everybody but you know glass tire came screaming through um and uh you know we kind of i mean when when we won their juniors we were were up against Brian Adams, Rush, Corey Hart, Platinum Blonde. We were up against some heavyweights, and we came storming through.
Starting point is 00:21:13 But here's a mind blow for you, Alan. And I won't record this part. It's so top secret. But the song Crying Over You by Platinum Blonde and the song Situation Critical by Platinum Blonde, they're actually the same song. Okay. So just listen. Listen to them one on top of the other.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It's actually the same song. Okay. I don't want that out there. Okay. I will not tell Mark. Don't tell Mark I said that. All right. I want to,
Starting point is 00:21:40 what's the expectation level like? I mean, when you hit it out of the park of the first, of a bunch of singles on that first Monster album, I mean, what are the expectations for the second album? Well, you know, looking back on it, it happens so fast and the demands are so great. The biggest regret for me was that you don't take enough time to sit back
Starting point is 00:22:04 and maybe give yourself a little pat on the shoulder and say you did well son because it's just madness you know everybody realizes that by the time Glass Tiger does second album and third album
Starting point is 00:22:19 I mean the pressure was on and it starts to dwindle and everybody wants to do other things but yeah it was a lot of pressure I mean, the pressure was on and it starts to dwindle and everybody wants to do other things. But yeah, it was a lot of pressure. I think we delivered a fine album. The rest is, you know, music business is small M, capital B. That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And powers at B sort of shape the landscape more than you do. That's a convoluted way of saying who the fuck knows. We're going to get back to that. Here's a little from the second album, Diamond Sun. To this land We gave our friendship Gave them our hands
Starting point is 00:23:08 But it was never to be Oh, you must bow down We set forth to your knees Oh, diamond sun has to burn Oh, are we never to learn Oh Love gives life And life is love.
Starting point is 00:23:48 But what have you done? I was going to play I'm Still Searching, but I love this song so much. But please, I want to know the difference between expectations in the USA, which of course has, you know, 10 times the number of people and we all know how important America is to an artist, but was Diamond Sun a disappointment in terms of American success? Yes, but you know, not for any other reason than going back to the analogy of small m capital B. If Capitol Records in Canada made any mistakes, the major one was that they sort of wrapped us up
Starting point is 00:24:37 and kept us 100% to themselves and didn't really allow other entities to, for want of a better term, put money into us. They wanted to do it all themselves. And the Americans had no skin in the game. And when that starts to happen, they start to lose interest because they want to put some money in because they want to make a lot more money out. lose interest because they want to put some money in because they want to make a lot more money out
Starting point is 00:25:03 and the president of Capitol Records at the time was quite indignant about not letting them do that and so you're just a band traveling, doing your thing, writing your songs and you're getting caught in the middle of this war of words
Starting point is 00:25:19 and finances and so the Americans started to slowly turn off. Yeah, small M, big B. Yeah. B also the first letter in bullshit. Exactly. See, I'm getting angry here, Alan,
Starting point is 00:25:35 and what a catalog of excellent art and great music here regardless. Okay, so Diamond Sun, triple platinum in Canada. I don't know what that means, but it sounds impressive. I'd get t-shirts that said triple platinum in Canada. I'd get that done. All right. Now I'm going to quickly just give you a couple of gifts here before I want to
Starting point is 00:25:58 play a song from Simple Mission here. But I would love to give you some fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery, Alan. Okie doke. I'll take that with me. I'll take that with me. You can take that home with you. You're going to love it.
Starting point is 00:26:07 They're brewed right here in southern Ontario and only available in Ontario. Great Lakes beer. Do you like Italian food, Alan? I love Italian food. It's my favorite. It's my favorite too. It is my favorite. Better than haggis?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Better than haggis. On the record here. Okay. I'm asking the tough questions here today. In my freezer upstairs, Alan Frew, I have a frozen lasagna for you, courtesy of Palma Pasta. Lovely. Take that home. You'll love it.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Let me know what you think. It's delicious. Thank you, Palma Pasta. They have four locations in Mississauga and Oakville, and you can go to palmapasta.com. I have a measuring tape, courtesy of Ridley Funeral Home. Alan, you never know when you've got to just stop down and measure something. Okay, I'll just measure myself for a box. For the casket from Ridley Funeral Home.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I'm recording a new episode of Brad Jones' excellent Life's Undertaking podcast today, this afternoon, actually. Love the good people at Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of this community since 1921. People at Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of this community since 1921. And last, before I get to another great artist that is on your Simple Mission album, I want to give you a wireless speaker. This is courtesy of Moneris, Alan. And with that great speaker, you're going to listen to season four of Yes, We Are Open, an award-winning podcast from Moneris, but hosted by FOTML. Grego, and he's been traveling the country
Starting point is 00:27:28 talking to small business owners, gathering their inspiring stories so they can inspire people like you and I, Alan. This is a great podcast. So enjoy season four of Yes We Are Open. Are you still friendly with Rod Stewart? Can you text Rod Stewart now and he'll reply? I've lost touch with Rod just through time.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I know if I came walking in a room or he came walking in a room, we'd say, how are you doing, big fella? Oh, great, Alan, doing well. Don't stay in touch with him. But like I say, if fate brought us together, we'd have a couple of pints and a chit-chat. Well, this is where if I were a bigger operation, I'd surprise you. I'd say, Rod is here!
Starting point is 00:28:09 And you'd come around the corner and he'd give you a big hug. You guys both love your, should I call it soccer? Is that offensive? Yeah, but now you're going to go, you're going to tread, you're going to step on a big landmine right about now. Wouldn't be the first time. Which landmine is that? I see many here.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Well, I'm a Glasgow Rangers fanatic, and Rod is a Glasgow Celtic fanatic. Okay. And these are arch rivals. This is like the Maple Leafs and the Montreal Canadiens. On acid. Who's having the better run lately? Celtic.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Celtic are without a doubt the top team right now. They've been kicking our asses and, you know, what goes around comes around and we'll have our day again. Are you still friendly
Starting point is 00:28:57 with Stephen Caldwell? Oh, Big Stevie. Yeah, of course. He's been down here. Stevie came in my, actually Stevie
Starting point is 00:29:04 came to my home with his kids to watch Ranger Celtic. You might be the only two, now that I think about it, 1,200 episodes, you might be the only two guests to have a Scottish brogue on you, you and Stevie there. But he's an FOTM as well. By the way, I know you're saying, you're like, what the heck is an FOTM? You've heard it like five times now. Friend of Toronto Mike Allen, you're now an FOTM.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Okay. Welcome to the family. All right, let me kick out this jam. I got questions. Bring the wind to carry me over. Lead me home to my town. Tell me when that breeze is blowing Taking me home to my town When I think of you, Scorsese
Starting point is 00:30:11 There's a love that just bleeds in my heart In my childhood days We went our different ways But you knew that we'd never part. Now I'm all alone, and you're calling me home. You knew I loved you, never died. And though my ruined eyes always led me astray, when I'm coming back home, It's cause you don't walk away
Starting point is 00:30:46 Bring the wind to carry me around Lead me home to my town Tell me when that breeze is blowing Taking me home to my town Did you write this, Alan? Yes. You talented son of a bitch. Holy smokes, My Town. There it is.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So how did it come to be that Rod Stewart would be featured on your My Town? Rod and I were hanging about. We kicked the ball around on a Sunday. We went for dinners, drinks and stuff like that. And I was in the studio recording My Town, and they brought a guy in. I just wanted another voice that would match with mine for backgrounds, really. And they brought a couple of American guys in, and that wasn't really working. Can you name who they brought in?
Starting point is 00:32:03 No, I can't. Because I can't remember. Okay, okay, I'll allow that. I was going to have to rough you they brought in? No, I can't. Because I can't remember. Okay, okay. I'll allow that. I was going to have to rough you up a bit. No, these weren't guests. These were hired. Oh, I got you.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Session guys. Right, session guys. Gotcha. So anyway, Rod and I were out to dinner that night when it's amazing how it came about. The guy who was singing with me that day in the studio happened to come into the restaurant. And I said, oh, there's a, whatever his name was, and Rod says, oh, I know him too.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So he came over to the table, and he was chatting, and then he turned around and said to Rod, have you heard the song that Alan's written about Scotland? And Rod said, no, no. And he said, oh, it's really fantastic, I sang on it today. Well, it's nice to see you. And when he left, Rod thumped me and said, no, no. And he said, oh, it's really fantastic. I sang on it today. Well, it's nice to see you. And when he left, Rod thumped me and said, why the hell did you not ask me to sing on it?
Starting point is 00:32:52 And I said, well, I didn't want to play that card. I didn't want to do that. And he said, I want to sing on it. And that was it. Amazing. And just to bring things full circle here, so Ryan Adams is heard on your first big hit, Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone,
Starting point is 00:33:08 which is also a parentheses jam. Rod Stewart's featured on this My Town, and of course there's that big monster hit with Brian Adams, Rod Stewart, and Sting, All For Love. Right. So I don't know, just throwing out how all the dots are connected here.
Starting point is 00:33:23 People need to know. So, okay. So My Town't know. Just throwing out how all the dots are connected here. People need to know. So, okay. So My Town is a great song, but now I'm going to ask you the real tough questions. And that involves an American band named Weezer. You ever met Weezer? Yeah. A lot of people have been mentioned on this issue.
Starting point is 00:33:40 But have they recorded you in real time responding here? This will be the big moment here. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to play a bit of it because I want the listeners to hear this too. And then I just want to hear what you think. Okay. Not trying to cause trouble. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I get it. A little bit, a little bit of love Goes a pretty long way Take a look at where you started from And where you are today You climbed mountains, swam oceans You got knocked down and kept going In the end you know you got to stay
Starting point is 00:34:21 A little bit of love goes a pretty long way All your wounds are healing time I'm so glad I met you in my life Now the winter is gone Now is the chance to live the life we want I hope so. Carry me over, lead me home, to my town. Yeah, I hear it. I hope so. Otherwise, I'm going to ask you to go get your hearing checked, Alan Frew.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Okay. I'm not saying, oh, you've got to lawyer up and do anything here at all. I'm just wondering, how do you feel when you hear a big band like Weezer? You know, they took full writing credit on this. It doesn't say Alan Frew there. Yeah, I know. We've been looking at it. Sam from Glass Tiger
Starting point is 00:35:13 has been looking at it. It's been mentioned. You know, who knows? We'll take a look at it. You're not the first to bring it up, that's for sure,
Starting point is 00:35:22 but we'll see. I'm not the first and I won't be the last. And this song's only about, I think only about a year old. Like this is a pretty recent Weezer jam. But if it was a song from like the Blue album or something, I'd be calling my lawyer and I'd be doing something about it
Starting point is 00:35:38 because you deserve some of that cash, Alan. Okay, thank you, Weezer. We'll call it an homage, an homage to my town. And I can't get off my town yet. I once had Gino Vanellian here and he literally said to me, it was great, great convo,
Starting point is 00:35:53 and he had his guitar and he was playing stuff. And then I kept asking him questions about black cars. And at some point he stops down and he goes, can we get off black cars already? Like this was a moment with Gino.
Starting point is 00:36:03 So if you want me to get off my town, I'll be just as well. No, not at all. Okay. So my town, I'm a big TFC fan. I try to get out there as often as I can. It's a rough go right now,
Starting point is 00:36:13 but we'll talk about that. We just shouted out a former captain, Stephen Caldwell, who's an FOTM, but let me. Like this. Wow, I have not heard that in a lifetime. Where did you find that? I have sources.
Starting point is 00:36:45 So this is the TFC version of My Town. Wow. And was it just you're a big footie fan and they came to you? Yeah, I think I just did it for them for fun. Let's hear this thing. Yeah. My heart, in my childhood days, we went our different ways. You knew that we'd never part. When I'm all alone, you keep calling me home. Never die And though my roaming eyes Always led me astray Toronto's my home
Starting point is 00:37:30 Let me hear you say Bring the wind to carry me over Lead me home to my town Tell me when that breeze is blowing Toronto's my home it's my town wow
Starting point is 00:37:53 I have not heard that probably since the day I did it that's wild, and Newmarket's okay with this? oh yeah, I've been in Toronto for years and many, many years. Toronto Alan now. Yeah, this is,
Starting point is 00:38:10 so people want to hear the My Town Toronto Football Club version. Hit me up, I'll send it to you. Where did you get it? Oh, it wasn't that hard. When you know the right people, Alan. Listen, after 1,200 episodes, make the right phone call
Starting point is 00:38:24 and there it is in my inbox here. But I'll share it with you. It's kind of fun. Listen, after 1,200 episodes, make the right phone call, and there it is in my inbox here. But I'll share it with you. It's kind of fun. You like to make, like, sports songs, I notice, because it's kind of a rough time to talk, because tonight. Oh, don't get me started. Tonight's game four, Panthers in Leaves. I'm timestamping this.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Someone's going to be listening to this in, like, 2036 or something, and they'll be like, oh oh they still haven't advanced to the conference final. The other night was like watching the Titanic sink in slow motion. Yeah, game three was rough because at some point I said to my son, I said, is Auston Matthews playing tonight?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Why didn't Marner play tonight? Like, is he a healthy scratch? Tough go, but the guys are, yeah, you got the third line guys, fourth line guys seem to kind of keep pulling through. But okay, so why am I talking about that? This is a bad rip. I'll just give us a taste of this. But.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Ah. The little thing I did with the Leafs in there. Is this a goal song at some point or no? Was it a what? You know the goal song, like a song they play when the Leafs score? No. No, I think they just had fun with it when everybody was coming in
Starting point is 00:39:31 to get to their seats and whatnot. And then of course, what happens? You write a cool little song and they keep losing and everybody starts blaming the song. Well, we've got to blame something now. It's been a while. Yeah, you weren't here. You were in Scotland when the Leafs...
Starting point is 00:39:49 I'm doing the math in my head real quick here. Yeah, I didn't get here until 72. I missed it too, Alan, but I had a different excuse. It didn't exist yet. What's it like for a 16-year-old to change countries? It's always tough to change schools when you're 16. What's it like to change countries-year-old to change countries? Like, it's always tough to change schools when you're 16. What's it like to change countries? It was very, very difficult.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You know, you've got this funny accent, and you go to school, and it's really strange because the girls like it. The boys hate it. The boys hate it because the girls like it. Right. The girls like it even more, so the boys hate it even more. So there was a lot of scrapping going on.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I was a scrapper, so there was a lot of that shit went down. And it's tough. You are an alien. You're a stranger in a strange land, and kids are tough. They picked on it. Yeah yeah i'm sorry to hear that but it seems like you were able to channel it into your your art your music oh for sure so there you that worked out now yeah so so so remind me though you show up at 16 in new market new canadian how much time elapses before Tokyo exists?
Starting point is 00:41:06 Oh, quite a few years. I mean, what people probably, many people wouldn't know about me is, you know, I was 29, almost 30 by the time Glass Tiger clicked. I dabbled in music at 23, but I had made up my mind. I was an orderly in a hospital and then I got a job, uh, a pathologist assistant. I did autopsies for four years. Wow. That's a quite the shout out to Ridley funeral home. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:32 really. And, uh, and then I became a registered nurse. I went back and got my RN and, uh, my dream was, Hey,
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm going to go on and be a doctor, but music kept surfacing all the way through this. And then I became an RN, and I was killing myself because I was gigging in bars and running a... I was kind of charging us at times on a surgical floor, and the staff began to talk a little bit behind my back that they were worried about me uh and the supervisor called me in and she said you know you're sleepwalking here so why don't you take a
Starting point is 00:42:10 leave absence and we'll save your job and you go do this silly music thing and i said okay and then i wrote don't don't forget me when i'm gone with gym balance and that was that wow okay did it all uh come in handy, having that registered nurse background? Yeah. I'm probably the only guy that gave Steve Perry and Journey B12 shots in their ass in glass. Are you sure that was B12? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I used to carry a little surgical bag with me, and I was the drug keeper. And we were on this B12 kick where everybody was like, let's get a B12 shot to keep yourself up. And Steve Perry and Neil Sean and those guys just think, Alan, okay, here we go, click. There's worse things to be injecting into your body.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I don't think you can. I actually think like once you have enough B12, I think it just becomes like expensive urine. That's what I heard it referred to. You can't think you can. I actually think like once you have enough B12, I think it just becomes like expensive urine. That's what I heard it referred to. You can't OD on it. Now, there's one topic that I was kind of most excited to talk to you about, and that's coming up next. But now to fast forward a little bit, I saw you in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:43:18 You were playing Colonel Samuel Smith Park. We used to call this Lakeshore Mardi Gras. We're going back now. I want to say we're going back about six, seven years or something like that. You played. I came out and watched you. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:43:31 But very shortly thereafter, news broke that you had suffered a stroke. Correct. So I'm wondering, firstly, being a registered nurse, did that help you identify the symptoms? What happened? Well, the funny thing is uh like most doctors most medical staff we we make the worst uh patients because uh i woke up in the
Starting point is 00:43:53 morning my leg wasn't functioning very well uh my arm wasn't functioning well and uh i got dressed and went golfing with my son you did uh instead of getting to the hospital and then uh on the first green i was putting and my body wanted to collapse and then it came back again and my son was with me and i said let's go home and i drew i got in the car again behind the wheel wow uh. Luckily, the car needed gas. And what I mean by that is when we stopped at the gas station and the guy filled up my car and it came time to pay him, I couldn't count the money. I didn't know how to count the money. And my son said, OK, move over. And we drove to the hospital and I had a full blown stroke in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Wow. off to the hospital and I had a full blown stroke in the hospital. Wow. Now, did you need to, sometimes there's some strokes where my buddy Peter Gross had a stroke and he was like in the hospital for like two nights and then he was fine. Like it was just a little vision blurry. But then you hear about strokes where you almost have to learn to walk again. Yeah, I was completely paralyzed on my right side. My arm and my leg were paralyzed.
Starting point is 00:45:03 What was that recovery process like uh because i'll just say you look great now oh thank you man it's uh it was very tough uh you know you had to learn to walk again and and use your hand and it took me uh nine months and i went back on stage in about 10 months probably well i'm glad that you uh any any lingering effects or yeah i mean you're never the same you're always the guy that had the stroke you can never be the guy that hasn't had ones uh i've got a little residual effect in my right eye and in my right hand i uh so to share with you just about i I don't know, two months ago I was diagnosed with a blood clot on my brain two months ago. And they,
Starting point is 00:45:49 they had me spend the night cause they said I was at very high risk for a stroke. Like, so I never had the stroke, but I was at high risk for it. And they put you on the blood thinners and then I didn't have a stroke thankfully. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:59 That's what they do. They, they, they have a, they have a thing. Um, it escapes me. I'm on blood thinners,
Starting point is 00:46:05 but there's a thing that can inject you within about four hours of a stroke. It's really like Drano for the blood. But they didn't know how long my stroke had been, maybe had it in the middle of the night. And it's too dangerous to give to you if it's been hours and hours. So nine months of recovery.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And then what was it like when you were first back on the stage? It was a tough one. I kept having these mental kind of whooshing feelings like I was going to drop to the floor. My neurologist
Starting point is 00:46:40 was in the audience and trying to encourage me by kicking my ass. But ironically the voice was spot on. If anything, maybe even the stroke had attached a little bit more passion to it or something like that. Okay, your neurologist isn't Dr. Pham, is it? No.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I'm just checking because I have a neurologist too for my blood clot on the brain here. Okay. But enough about me. This is the Alan Frew debut. I want to ask you, so I'm glad you recovered there and that's a terrible fear you had there.
Starting point is 00:47:17 It's a good thing you had the registered nurse background there even though you played golf while you were suffering from a stroke there. But what was it like when you visited the Canadian forces in Afghanistan? Oh, that's always been one of the highlights and the joys of my life. It started innocently when the war was going on in what used to be Yugoslavia.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And I went over to Bosnia thinking it was just going to be a one-off. I went over to Bosnia and entertained them and came home thinking that was it. And then it kind of gets into your system and I was offered another one and I went. And then, lo and behold, for 20 years I kept back, and I've been in Afghanistan four times. I've been in Oman and Kuwait and Egypt and Israel and the North Pole. Good for you, man. Germany. I've been over many, many times.
Starting point is 00:48:19 They're just some of the most selfless people on the planet. They just, you know, they're driven by this. I know a lot of people think of the war machine but, you know our guys were over there trying their best to help people, they really were they were in the clutches of the Taliban and I met many Afghanis
Starting point is 00:48:39 who just wanted the simple things that we have like, they wanted to go dancing they wanted to eat the food they wanted, they wanted to sing and meet girls and play rock and roll and blah, blah. And all these things were death sentences. And so we were over there trying to alleviate some of that that they were going through.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And, of course, it cost many Canadians their lives doing it. Man, I want to say, good for you, Alan. That's a lot of rock stars wouldn't sacrifice like that, I would think. Did some cool things. I went up into the mountains, into the forward operation bases, where it was really dangerous. And just sat cross-legged with acoustic guitar and Sam Reid on a little dinky keyboard
Starting point is 00:49:24 and maybe singing for 10 soldiers in a little area of the camp. When you'd go over there with the NHL alumni, can you name check any of the alumni that would participate? Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. You put me on the spot. Lanny, for sure. Oh, Lanny McDonald.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And Tiger. Tiger Williams. I think at the McDonald. And Tiger. Tiger Williams. I think at the time, Tiger's the only one, if I'm not mistaken, he's the only one that's done more trips than I have. Boy, some of the secondary guys. Those are some big former Leafs right there.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Absolutely. Yeah, I see Wendell over there. Yeah, yeah. You know what? He was supposed to bring, I brought him down here and put him up here to bring luck to the Leafs in there, absolutely. Yeah, I see Wendell over there. Yeah, yeah. You know what? He was supposed to bring, I brought him down here and put him up here to bring luck to the Leafs in the second round. And I don't think Wendell's doing his job.
Starting point is 00:50:10 You might have to lace him up tonight. I met the woman who's now my wife. I met her on the day I was with Wendell. He brought you luck. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Wendell was no glass tiger, that's for sure. That guy would run through a wall. That's for sure. Wendell was no glass tiger, that's for sure. That guy would run through a wall.
Starting point is 00:50:27 That's for sure. Man, you know what? I'm not going to dwell on it because it's possible we're swept in the second round and then who knows what happens to this team. It's a very talented, skilled team, but there's some grit missing there. There's some playoff grits missing there.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But I don't, like, there is, is that, like, where is the Wendell clerk or the doug gilmore of this team right now is it supposed to be ryan o'reilly he's kind of past his prime like we just i feel like we're missing that heart yeah um i mean i i'm going to make an admission to you like i was a diehard diehard leaf fan over the last five to 10 years. I've been so busy. I've let a lot of things dwindle. Right. And you have a mismatch.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately. So I really picked up on it at the beginning of this season here and, and, uh, beginning of these playoffs rather. And I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:51:20 You, you, you just seem to be missing sandpaper. I don't know how it's explained it. You know, uh. I used to call it a sports podcast, but that ended last Friday. It's missing some kind of a gritty sandpaper. Even a Darcy
Starting point is 00:51:32 Tucker. It's not size we're looking for if you've got the heart and the guts. Give me a Gary Roberts. You know what I mean? There's a lot of skill. It's a highly skilled team, but it's just missing that intangible there. We shall tonight any prediction for tonight oh my goodness me because they can go either way they could fold up like a cheap suit i know i talked to the golf i was talking to one
Starting point is 00:51:55 of my pals uh the original drummer from glass tiger michael hansen who's a diehard and you you talk about it and you talk about you know the the the train wreck and the sinking ship blah blah blah and then before you know it you're saying well if we could if we could just win this one and then yeah you know and then before you know it you've got yourself winning four straight my wife so tonight she said can i take the kids to my sister's because we were watching all the games together the whole family i got four kids we were all watching all games and she's like we don't have to watch tonight I'm like like the next two games you can have off because it's only exciting again when that when we're down 3-2 and we're playing to extend it to a seventh game so that so that we can go to Boston
Starting point is 00:52:36 and and be up 4-2 with like 4-1 4-1 and still lose it. Thanks for the memories there, Alan. Oh my goodness. Okay, so let me get back on track here. Let me take, this is a quick moment to tell you that if you have an old, I don't know, you have an old phone or an old television or maybe you got an old synthesizer at home, Alan, and you don't throw that in the garbage
Starting point is 00:52:59 because the chemicals end up in the landfill, you need to go to recyclemyelectronics.ca. Everybody listening, go to recyclemyelectronics.ca. Everybody listening, go to recyclemyelectronics.ca. Find out a safe place to drop that off in your neighborhood. Mother Earth will thank you. And last but not least, Alan, not that you need any help with this, but if anyone is struggling to get their message out to the world and is looking for a way to increase their brand's visibility
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Starting point is 00:53:46 So thank you, The Moment Lab. All right, Alan, I mentioned I was holding on to one question here. So I'm really hoping you're warmed up now. You're going to bury me in detail. I don't want you to think, oh, he's not interested in the minutiae here. I'm actually interested in all of it.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Please, and I'll give credit to Eric who wrote in. He wanted to know if I could ask you about the Skydome opening night gala what do you remember Alan about the Skydome opening night gala well I remember that we were asked to do it and I was excited at the thought of doing it but the clash came when I said I wanted to sing live and they didn't want me to do that because the production was Olympic size and they were convinced that everything should be lip syncing. But I knew that I wanted to sing live for several reasons
Starting point is 00:54:39 and another one was it would make me the first because they had a little, they had, I think, the national anthem and they had a little Alan Thicke thing that was all. Was that with Andrea Martin? Yes. Yes, Alan Thicke and Andrea Martin. Right. And so it became a war.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Wow. And I said, okay, well, I won't do it I'm not going to do it and we pulled we were going to pull the plug and then they came back and said okay
Starting point is 00:55:14 we relent if you'll be kind enough to sing it so that we have it if anything goes wrong we can push a button and I said okay and the rest again
Starting point is 00:55:27 is history we came out and if you ever look back at it you hear me say things like the skydome in toronto i put it into the song so people know i'm live uh well you said there's several reasons and i can only i can imagine a couple of them but maybe share like that is a top reason that you're a you're a damn rock star and rock stars don't lip sync yeah I I don't like it I never have uh I did a big Latino show one time that had a viewing audience of 700 million people around the world and and I refused to uh to to lip sync um it just feels strange and bizarre and stupid. But I have done it because there's certain places that just had no other way of getting across. Yeah, maybe they're not equipped to even handle you live or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:18 That's it. It's sort of like, so I used to wear my hair much shorter and then I grew it for the pandemic. And then Ron Hawkins from Lowest at the Low, he said to me, hey man, if you can grow it, you should show it. Like he just said that sentence to me. And I'm like, yeah, Ron's right.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Like if I can grow it, I can show it. And I feel like with you, you've got that fantastic voice. Oh, thank you. Like if you can do it live, you should do it live because let the people who aren't going to sound great live
Starting point is 00:56:45 because they need some, whatever, some help in the studio. I did the same all through the years with the national anthems for the Stanley Cup and for the Blue Jays and whatnot. I always wanted to go live.
Starting point is 00:56:57 So you realize that even in this brief one-hour conversation we've covered, you know, you did a TFC song, you did a Leafs song, you did a leaf song you sang at the sky dome opening there's a lot of sports connection there's a big sports uh connection to my life uh i'm a sports fan um i'm when we finish today i'm going straight home to watch
Starting point is 00:57:19 ac milan play inter milan in the semi-f the Champions League. That's a big one for me. No, listen, it sounds like a big one. And look, I don't want to keep you much longer because I want you to get to that game. And I'll let you go in a moment here. But did I miss anything that you were really excited to talk about? Obviously, before I play some lowest of the low and wrap things up here, I want to hear the current status. I of the low and wrap things up here, I want to hear like the current status.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I got an interesting note from Jim Romanco who worked for a large Canadian insurance company. And he remembers, uh, you Alan were hired to perform at like a management conference, uh, in Collingwood at this resort in Collingwood. And he remembers it wasn't glass tiger.
Starting point is 00:58:00 It was like Alan Frew, but you know, you're doing lots of songs you wrote for glass tiger, of course. But he wants to know like, uh, like, this is his wording. I don't, I think he's joking because you put an LOL in there, but he wrote, when did he first turn to the corporate gig dark side of the music business? And are you still doing that? And he puts an LOL on there because of course, it's not the dark side. You got to, you got to eat too, right buddy? No, what he's wrong is that those kind of gigs came
Starting point is 00:58:26 from my public speaking. I wrote a book called The Action Sandwich in 2007 and I was hired to talk about life and passion and abundance and those kind of things. And it just so happened that many of the entities that wanted me to do it were corporations. But funny enough, a few of them ended up wanting rock and roll stories. And I had a lot of fun with them telling them stories about that. So I stay very busy. I'm writing a novel as we speak. I wrote that book in 2007. I have a band, 80 a band 80 to 90 rewind where i do not do any glass tiger anymore it's all just simple mind stairs for fears midnight oil oh cool uh those kind of things but do people are people ever pissed like throw us like uh don't forget me when i'm gone
Starting point is 00:59:20 well in future if they want to hear don't forget me when i'm gone they can come see glass tire Well, in future, if they want to hear Don't Forget Me When I'm Gone, they can come see Glass Tiger. So tell me, I'm sure it's a festival band. I'm sure you've got summer gigs planned. But where can we go to learn where we can see Glass Tiger? What is the current status of Glass Tiger? Well, we're alive and well and kicking and touring.
Starting point is 00:59:42 We've got quite a few summer dates coming up. They can find out all about that at GlassTiger's website, GlassTiger.ca. And if anybody wants to come and say hello to me on Instagram, they can find out what I'm up to. And just be careful. I get tons of scammers and people faking that they're me. I actually, the funniest thing ever, there was a scammer about a month ago
Starting point is 01:00:06 where I come on his direct message and started chatting with him and he didn't even take the time to see my profile. And so he's chatting with me as if he's me. And it was so funny. And then finally when I caught him out, he's a kid from India. Right, yeah.'s uh right right okay well make sure you're following the the real yeah really so what is the give me
Starting point is 01:00:33 the name is it it would be alan underscore through okay except no substitutes and this is instagram right alan underscore through okay before lois the little rosie and gray plays us out you just mentioned you do these speaking engagements and people wanted to hear like rock and roll stories. Can you leave me with one rock and roll story? I can only imagine having toured the world and... Oh, I have a few, but I've got... Well, I don't want you to miss that kickoff there, I feel,
Starting point is 01:01:01 but if you could hit me with your favorite. I'll condense it for you i was really good friends at tanya tucker and um glass tigers last gig on the tina turner tour was in switzerland and we all got kind of drunk that night and i woke up with a hellish hangover um i went to down to breakfast which was really a lunch and my road manager helped revive me and he
Starting point is 01:01:31 was reading a newspaper and that evening there was a country and western festival at the same stadium that we had just played for five nights with Tina and he was a big fan of Boxcar Willie, who
Starting point is 01:01:48 I didn't even know. And Jerry Lee Lewis was headlining. There was Crystal Gale, Jerry Lee Lewis, Tanya Tucker, the whole bit. And so I said to Joe, well I know Tanya Tucker. Really? So
Starting point is 01:02:03 we go down to the stadium and i get a hold of tanya and she gives us all these passes and we say seal and i had two uh picture discs uh uh of jerry lee lewis and i said to tanya would you do me a favor would you get them to sign them and she said uh and by the way i've never told this story uh radio ever. So you're getting that. Love it. No, I love it. It's exclusive. So I give her the two albums and she says, okay, great. But if he's in a good mood, I'll bring you in and he can sign it for you. And I said, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:39 So we go back to the hotel and then Joe and I, the road manager, decide we're going to have an early dinner. And I had a little bit of ESP going on. And I said, you know, Joe, I hear that Jerry Lee Lewis gets all messed up. And he's supposed to headline. And he doesn't. And let's go now. And he said, well, it's only 6.30 or whatever. And I said, no, let's go.
Starting point is 01:02:57 So we get a taxi. And we go down to the stadium. And as we're paying the taxi, I can hear, hold on, baby. Oh, a lot of shaking going on. And I said, he's on, he's on. So we go running in, and we've got all kinds of passes, and we're actually side stage. And I'm looking right across the stage,
Starting point is 01:03:15 and I can see Tanya with Bucks Car Willy, and she's waving, hi, baby, how you doing? And Jerry Lee Lewis is banging this piano, and behind the curtain, there's a lady actually playing the piano. So he does one song. He's in Zurich. And he goes, thank you very much, Cleveland. See you later.
Starting point is 01:03:33 So he comes wandering off. And I said to Joe, we've got to follow this. So they go one way, we go the other. And I get into this hallway in the stadium. And I'm standing outside the actual dressing room that was Glass Tigers' dressing room for the five nights before. Anyway, in the catering, in the green room, there was a giant cake, and it was a guitar.
Starting point is 01:03:59 And it said, Mama Concerts welcomes Jerry Lee Lewis, Boxcar Willie, Crystal Gale. So they bring Jerry Lee down this hallway and all of a sudden he breaks away and he body slides right through the cake and falls off the other end of the table and ruins the cake.
Starting point is 01:04:17 So they bring him out and they pick him up and he's all covered in cake and he comes walking towards us and they go in the dressing room and Tanya peeks out the door and she says give me five minutes to get them cleaned up and we'll bring you in and i said okay so in front of the dressing room door is the largest human being bigger than shack the largest human being i've ever seen him with a big cowboy bodyguard and so the door opens and she uh she signals come on in and i step forward and this giant says where are you where are you going boy and i said uh and she's tanya says duke he's with me so joe and i go in
Starting point is 01:05:02 and boxcar willie's sitting in the chair he looks like Santa Claus, he's got a big bare belly and a big grey beard there's a young female in there she'll remain unnamed, I don't know who she was but she was with Jerry Lee Lewis there's Tanya and the man himself so she takes me up to him and she says
Starting point is 01:05:19 Jerry Lee this is a rock star friend of mine from Canada, his name's Alan I said hey Jerry Lee, is a rock star friend of mine from Canada his name's Alan, I said hey Jerry Lee nice to meet you and I said I wonder if you'd be kind enough to sign this for my brother and so I hand him I hand him
Starting point is 01:05:35 the picture disc and he signs it and he hands it back to me and now I give him mine and he says what's your name again? I said Alan to Alan but he hands me the picture disc And he says, what's your name again? I said, Alan. To Alan. But he hands me the picture disc. And then he starts eating the cover.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Like he's just eating it. And Tanya's trying to get it out of his mouth. And she pulls it off him. And I'm going to stop it there because it gets really out of hand. It goes from there. Yeah. And it'll probably end up in my book. You're a good storyteller, so I look forward to that book.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And if you ever want to come back and regale me with, like, your 10 greatest stories, oh, my God, I would love that. Oh, wow. Thank you, Alan, for this. You're very welcome. Fantastic. welcome fantastic and that brings us to the end of our 1253rd show you can follow me on twitter i'm at toronto might go to instagram it's alan underscore fru except no substitutes our friends at great lakes brewery right great lakes. I got beer for Alan. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. I've got a lasagna for Alan. Mineris is at Mineris. He's got his wireless speaker. Recycle My Electronics
Starting point is 01:06:52 are at EPRA underscore Canada. The Moment Lab are at The Moment Lab and Ridley Funeral Home are at Ridley FH. Alan's got his measuringpe. See you all next week. Read Andrew Miller and wander around And drink some Guinness from a tin Cause my UI check has just come in Ah, where you been? Because everything is kind of rosy and green Thank you. I won't go away Cause everything is Rosy and green Well you've been under my skin
Starting point is 01:07:50 For more than eight years It's been eight years of laughter And eight years of tears And I don't know what the future Can hold or do For me and you But I'm a much better man for having known you Oh, you know that's true because
Starting point is 01:08:12 Everything is coming up rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow won't stay today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and gray Well, I've been told that there's a sucker born every day But I wonder who Yeah, I wonder who We'll be right back. Yeah, I know it's true How about you? I'm picking up trash and then putting down roads
Starting point is 01:09:09 And they're broken in stocks, the class struggle explodes And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn Because everything is coming up rosy and gray
Starting point is 01:09:34 Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and green Well I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain
Starting point is 01:09:56 And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true Because everything is coming up Rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow Warms us today We'll be right back. Rosie and everything is Rosie and Grace.

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