Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Amber Morley: Toronto Mike'd #1101

Episode Date: August 19, 2022

In this 1101st episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Toronto city council candidate Amber Morley about how difficult it is to defeat an incumbent in municipal politics. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Today, making her Toronto Mike debut is Amber Morley. Welcome, Amber. Thank you, Mike. Good morning. I'm really glad to be here with you. This is more of an episode of New Toronto Mike than Toronto Mike because your activity in my backyard. So I live in the, is it a riding? What is it? It is a ward. A ward.

It's a ward municipally. Why do I call it a riding? Did we ever call it a riding? That's the provincial term for it. Yeah. As well as the federal, I believe. Okay. We should align all those.

Okay. So you are active in my ward of Etobicoke Lakeshore. So I'm really excited to have you here. Thank you. Yeah, we're also neighbors. I live just down the street on 13th. Okay, my buddy Joe from TO lives on 13th. Oh, wonderful.

I don't want to dox him too much. And you know who's at 14th and Lakeshore? The good people at Ridley Funeral Home. That's exactly right. We're actually immediate neighbors. Oh, my goodness. We're on the other side of Ridley my whole life. Shout out to Brad Jones at Ridley Funeral Home.

He loves to support the local, too. So, he's going to be listening for sure. And speaking of local, just off the top, is that in your ward is Great Lakes Brewery, right? It is. Give me the, do you know the geographic boundaries for Etobicoke Lakes? Do I know the geographic boundaries? Come on, Mike. Can I guess?

Yeah, sure. Go for it. I didn't do any homework on this, but this is my guess. Okay. For sure, the eastern boundary is the Humber River. Correct. That's for sure. Yes.

I'm going to say the western boundary is Mississauga. Also correct. Kind of an easy one. Those two I got. Yeah. And the southern boundary is the lake. Another easy one. Here's where I get stuck.

Here's where it gets tricky. I'm going to say you're good till... Wow, that's a good... I'm going to say till... And this is a random guess. Dundas? You're actually right on the money. Is that right?

So right up where Dundas and Bloor meet, the kind of jog up north. Yeah. That's where my high school used to be before they made it condos. Oh, okay. I was going to say ECI. No.

Yeah. Michael Power. Michael Power. Which is now the Michael Power condos. Oh, okay. I was going to say ECI. No. No. Michael Power. Michael Power. Which is now the Michael Power condos. Yeah, it is. It is. Lots of development in our neighborhood. We're one of the fastest growing wards, actually in the city of Toronto. And yeah, it's quite an enormous

geographic sort of place to cover. Yeah, it's big. It is. How many people live in this ward of ours? According to the last census, we're at about 140,000. But I would bet good money that we're close. No, I think there's 140,000 in Mimico alone. It feels that way, right? All right.

So we're going to get into it. But here, I got a little jam to start us off here. Sounds good. Because I'm really curious if you know this song. Because you're my third Amber. And I'll shout out the other two Ambers. I mean, to become an FOTM here, become a guest on the program. So the first two, Amber Giro,

who came on to talk very courageously about racism she experienced in the 1010 newsroom. That was quite the episode. Amber Giro and Amber Paye, who was on a couple of episodes. Do you know Amber Morley? Do you know this song? It's okay if you don't.

Neither of them, they didn't know it either. I definitely can't tell you the artist. But you're also maybe too young. Maybe. People always think that about me, but I'm not as young as I look. Show me your birth certificate.

Did you bring it with you? I didn't. I also don't know this song okay this song is called amber here it comes this is amazing to me that i've never no one has introduced me to this song in my 33 years on the planet here when you're doing campaigns, like this should be the song you come out to. Amber is the color of her energy. And it's true. I mean, I would like to think

so, yeah. Okay, so the band's called 311. Okay, 311. This song was played often on CFNY, 102.1 The Edge. They played it quite a bit when it was current.

And whenever I encounter an Amber, I hear that song in my head. For no other reason, you're on the program so I could play Amber. Well, I love it. I love it. And 311 will stick because, of course, Toronto's main service reporter, you know, is 311. So I can't forget.

Why do I have like, and again, I'm still recovering from the fake fun fact I dropped on the Jim Cuddy episode when I erroneously stated, in fact, even today I got a tweet about it. I've been getting Steve Paikin, you name it. They're sending me emails, notes, like, Mike, that's not true. I said on that program that Dennis Weaver was the father of Sigourney Weaver, and it's not true.

Pat Weaver is the father of Sigourney Weaver. And it's not true. Pat Weaver is the father of Sigourney Weaver. So why do I think 311 is like the police code for like indecent exposure maybe or something like that? Like I feel like anyway, we're off track here. There's a thing. There's a thing. There's a story there. I don't want to. That's a rumor I heard.

Okay. So you are this ward's best bet to replace Mark Grimes. That's the word on the street. Well, that's a fact. I'm telling you. I follow this closely because like I said, this is new Toronto Mike today. Everybody else can tune out. Okay.

How is this? So it was just yesterday. I guess today's the deadline to announce. It is. 2 p.m. actually a couple hours away. So it's not too late for me. No. So I could chat you up and then I could take you on.

There you go. Maybe this is my plan. Steal my platform. You know what? This is my plan. I wanted to get Amber on the program. Yeah, and just ruin her on Toronto Mike. And then I will run against you and I will supplant Mark Grimes.

Okay. Bring it on. So yesterday, Mark liked to get you thinking. I don't know. I know John Tory likes to do a day one or whatever. Like a lot of people are like, day one, I'm not going to goof around. No games. But Mark only declared yesterday, right, Mark Grimes?

Mm-hmm. So was there any part of the team thinking, oh, maybe Mark's not running? Like was that even a thought? That's always a thought. And it happens every year. And in good dependable form. The councillor did wait to sort of the last week, but knowing that's his pattern, that's kind of what we anticipated. So how long has he been?

Because I've only lived here for like nine years, but he's been here as long as I've been here. Yeah. He was in power when I moved here. How long has Mark Grimes had that seat on Toronto City Council? I believe it's going on 20 years. I think he was originally elected in 2003, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. And these chairs are fun. You're doing the swing thing, but then you go off mic. Okay. Apologies. Stay still, Amber. Amber, stay still, please. Will do.

How is the campaign going? It's going fantastic. I decided after losing in 2018 that I was going to run again this time. So it's kind of been four years of anticipation and I've built an incredible team of community champions who were with me and helped us, you know, have a strong launch all the way back in May, if you could believe it. We have one of the longest campaign periods in like at all levels of government. So yeah, we had a strong start and we're really, really proud of what we're standing up for. And we're feeling good about the momentum we've already started to see. Okay. So I want to actually break down some of the 2018 curveballs that you faced and

what happened in 2018. But first, I'll just do a little like a 101 here for torontonians listening which is that the election is october 24th if you're wondering when the hell do we do our municipal election so october 24th i also want to shout out fotm that means friend of toronto mike amber you're now an fotm totally and thank you for not bringing your own chair when uh steven del duca came over he brought his own chair like i know we were in the height of covid hysteria but i felt that was uh you know when i saw that i kind of had a thought like oh this man's not going to get elected like that was a sign he's not in touch with the common people okay but i did enjoy his company but okay wonderful fotm david rider david rider good fotm I read a great piece by him in the Toronto Star.

In this piece, and we'll touch on a lot of this because I'm very curious to talk to you about it, but it was about the massive advantage that sitting politicians seem to enjoy. So first let's go back to 2018 and then I'll touch on all that. So let's go, like I have a few points here. So the first thing, let's talk about the decision

that Premier Doug Ford made to like cut the number of wards in this city in half. What did we do? We went down to 25. Yeah, but we were at 44 and there was a long multi-year process of consultation that was to result in 47. So we actually were gearing up for a 47 ward election in 2018. And then of course, gearing up for a 47 ward election in 2018. Right. And then, of course, without warning... Mid-election. Yeah.

Mid-election, this decision came out. Yeah, like, so the premier got elected after I already put in my papers to run in Ward 6, which was south of the Queensway, a much more bite-sized area, I guess you could say. And so, yeah, we were totally blindsided, I would say, by that announcement and our award doubled overnight, essentially. So how did that, like, how does it disrupt your

campaign in 2018? So being the thoughtful planner that I am, of course, I had a team, we had some branding, we had already gone ahead with printing our first piece of introductory literature. And like, we had this super cool design, which was like the boundary of the ward with my thing in the middle, which was no longer relevant. Right. So all of this money spent, of course,

we were formally ward six when I originally put my papers in and, and, you know, showed my intention to win this ward. And that was no longer the case. We became ward three. So again, right, some of the messaging within the literature and some of the pieces after. It's disruptive. It's disruptive. Especially for, you know, we'll talk, we're going to talk in depth about like incumbent

advantages and everything. But like for you, the challenger trying to unseat Mark Grimes, that's quite disruptive. So, OK, so that happened. Okay, also tell me about this. So in 2018, John Tory, late in his campaign, he started to endorse Mark Grimes. Apparently there were some polls suggesting you could beat him in the new Ward 3 that we speak in right now. Yeah. The one I vote in.

Okay, so tell me about this. So, yeah, we actually got wind of that after the fact. We knew that the mayor had done a robo call a couple of days before the election, I believe it was. Of course, hearing from supporters and residents who were on our team who had received the call. So that was, you know, interesting and certainly a little disappointing, if I'm being honest. Then we actually, someone shared a clip with me of one of the mayor's strategists talking about their plan and talking about the polling and showing the results of this polling and getting into the details of how they...

And this is Nick, right? That's Nick. Cuvalis? That's the one. Yeah, so we were, you know, it was extra disappointing to hear the kind of, you know, meddling that was going on from the mayor's office. So why does he do that? Like, why can't he stay in his lane? Like, why is he meddling in city councillor?

I think you're going to have to ask him that one, Mike. I really can't answer, to be honest. Obviously, politically, there are advantages to having people who are aligned with your agenda and who are going to vote with you. Um, but I don't know that that is really the best service or the best benefit to Torontonians, right? If we're not having real debates and having real folks with different perspectives and ideas. Well, he was afraid of you. Like if the polls are showing, cause I do, a full disclosure, you got my vote in 2018. That's full disclosure. Thank you, Mike. I'm not hiding anything here.

Hope to have your support again. We'll see how this hour goes and then I'll make my decision. But I am running, remember. I have two and a half hours to declare my intent here. I'll just be the biking counselor. Okay. So like that is, yeah, that is like a sign that you were close. Like why would John Tory waste his time with robocalls and endorsements of Mark Grimes late in the game if he didn't think you could actually win that election in 2018?

Well, I ran to win. That was the plan. And we really, really worked absolutely our butts off to get the result that we were aiming for. And so, of course course the interference from the premier to start mid-election and then you know the the interference from the mayor um to close it out was definitely really disappointing I you know and dejecting I've always been a community servant really wanted to um bring my voice to city hall on behalf of residents here. And honestly, I think I was kind of naive. I didn't anticipate the level of fear or concern coming from folks.

It's a blood sport, Paula. It is. Yeah, that's always, that's a part I don't like about it. Maybe I won't declare my intent to run. Maybe you'll let you do it. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I'll take this. I'll take it for the team, Mike. That's what I'm trying to do. Okay. And by the way, later in this conversation, we're going to get to know Amber better. So we're going to find out, like, who the heck are you?

And what do you stand for? This is stuff we need to learn here. But first, I want to ask about the third big thing. So we talked about Doug Ford slashes the number of awards in the city of Toronto to 25. John Tory medals late in the game of robocalls and endorsements of Mark Grimes, the incumbent.

And here's the, I want to spend a little more time on this one. This is, and again, the great piece by David Ryder in the Toronto Star does a good job as well, but he's an FOTM. I'm going to help him out here. The ever present advantage of an incumbent in municipal politics. Why is it

so difficult to get fresh faces on city council? Amber? Yeah, well, I was a staffer at City Hall, which kind of that job found me and was in sort of a fluky type of way shortly after graduating college. And so I found myself working at City Hall and was totally excited and yeah, just immersed in the happenings there but quickly came to realize the type of institution that it was and the way that power

is distributed or not. And so, yeah, I think that the incumbents have an incredible advantage. Name recognition is the first one. You know, we talk about that a lot. They're locally famous just because they're city councillors. Totally. Do you think some people go in the booth

and they recognize that one name and that gets the ax? Oh, yeah. And for folks who are generally well-served and don't have any, you know, big axes to grind or any major issues or concerns that are impacting them directly,

you know, they get the shiny newsletter, like full color, big spread, and they think, oh, my councillor's doing a great job. I recognize that name. So there you go. You get my vote. Because that's you go. Yeah. And a lot of people, frankly, are too busy to really get deep into, you know, the nuances of politics and representation. But for folks like myself, being a woman, being a racialized person, you know, growing up poor, I understand deeply the impacts of governance and decision making, investment, etc. And I think we

just keep missing the mark, honestly, since I've been an advocate engaging in this community, we've continued to, I think, have missteps that are really keeping us from capitalizing on important opportunities to grow and to do better. Okay, now, here's a hard fact that I double check, this is real, not like my Dennis Weaver, Sigourney a hard fact that I double check. This is real. Not like my Dennis Weaver, Sigourney Weaver fact. I lost all my integrity with that one. I feel like I can't sleep.

It's awful. Amber, I need help. Okay. So in 20, this is why this is my last episode for a week. So listenership, I'm recording with Amber.

It's a beautiful Friday. I'm going camping. I'm gone for at least a week. And then here's your, your ward, your ward, not And then here's your ward. Your ward, not Ward Cleaver. Your ward has a resident who designed the lightsaber for Star Wars. Do you know this?

Oh my goodness. This guy lives in Mimicom. That's amazing. I know. It is amazing. Because he also designed the Millennium Falcon. What? So a whole whack of star wars so this

one this is all real too i should point out now i need to tell people when i double check my facts yeah we need sources i made up that weaver fact i wanted to impress jim cuddy like jim like me and enjoy my fun facts even if i made it up okay but this guy lives in mimico his son plays with the kid across the street. Like he's a, you know, as you know, there's the Lakeshore Moms. Yes, we love the Lakeshore Moms. They're very powerful. They are.

I hope that you have that. Moms are influential. What can we say? For sure. So this guy, Roger Christian, you can Google him, look him up. Amazing what he's done, especially with Star Wars and the Star Wars universe. Unbelievable to me. And also he directed this notorious film,

this Scientology film called Battlefield Earth with John Travolta. Anyway, this is my next guest. So I'm gone. I want to let, because I'm prolific, Amber. There's like four or five episodes dropping a week. People can't catch up. This is your chance.

Amber Morley on this beautiful Friday. Then or five episodes dropping a week. People can't catch up. This is your chance. Amber Morley on this beautiful Friday. Then I'm gone for a week. But then the Star Wars guy, Roger Christian. Okay, so here's the fact that I've triple checked. In 2014, only two out of the 44 races, there were 44 races for City Council, only two times did the incumbent lose. Okay, two out of 44.

So if I'm doing that math, well, you can double check me. I know you're good at math. But 42 of the 44 races, the incumbent, which is a word for like the person who's already there, those who don't know.

And then they won. Like so, I mean, historically, that's 2014. But even in the three contests prior, I read this in David Ryder's article, incumbents beat challengers in 90% of all the races. Like, it is an uphill battle. And it's just interesting to me that, particularly in municipal politics,

and you mentioned name recognition. So does it take a star candidate? Do you have to be like somebody from TV? I mean, obviously you're going to win in 2022, Amber. Yeah, that's the plan. Yeah, it's almost unfair. Like you need to be famous. And one way to get famous is to win.

And then once you're in there, you're suddenly famous. But you need to be a famous person. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's really, really, really, really, really hard. I'm not going to lie. We used to tease staffers on the floor at City Hall, used to tease that it was more likely a counselor would pass away than be unseated, which is, you know, maybe a little bit dark.

But maybe true. But actually true. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Come on, Amber. Okay. Sorry, that was good. No, no. Buckle up.

You're in for a good ride. So, yeah. So, it's really, really difficult. And you know what? Being a staffer and sitting, having a front row seat, watching some of the more ridiculous decisions of city council and sort of the lack of progress was just literally mind-numbing and really disappointing. And so, for me, I just thought about it and decided that I know that I have what it takes. I'm a wildly capable individual. I love this community.

And I think I do have the mix of personality, experience and passion to get the job done. We're going to get to know you in moments, mere moments, Amber, mere moments. But just anecdotally, like where I sit now. So the counselor I have is Mark Grimes. We're talking about that right now. But the premier of my province is doug ford and the um the mayor of this city is john tory and the prime minister is justin trudeau and all three of those those were

all people famous like john tory was famous when he ran uh against doug ford and olivia chow like he was a big name anyway and And we were coming off Rob Ford. So there's a whole thing going on there. But Justin Trudeau was from a very famous family. His dad was prime minister, very famous. And yeah, Doug Ford also from this famous family, if you will. Yeah. In addition to fame, there's a lot of money.

Lots of money. Thank you. That's exactly. No, all three of those people, that's important to mention. All three of those people, John Tory, Dougoug ford justin chudeau were born with silver spoons in their mouth like they were they're wealthy they were born into wealth yeah i wouldn't argue with that and i think that's certainly what we see represented represented mostly on our council and those are the folks who we typically see getting into positions of power

and making decisions about our city do you think think the diversity of city council reflects the city it represents? I do not think so. And a big reason why I'm running for office. Tell me. Okay, this is a good chance to get to know you. Okay, so tell me about you. Like, who are you, Amber Morley? Who is Amber Morley?

I am a lifelong resident of Etobicoke Lakeshore, actually one of my very best friends in the world, and she actually helped manage my campaign in 2018. Grew up a couple of houses down from you here. You want to shout her out? You can say that. Yeah, Maria. Maria Solis.

She's an incredible organizer, a mom, an advocate for accessibility, and yeah, she is phenomenal. We want to Sir Adam Beck. If you're familiar with Sir Adam Beck. Where's Sir Adam Beck? It's down in the Browns Line, Alderwood area. Okay, like near Il Pisano. Yes.

Oh my goodness. Il Pisano is right. I used to be sneaking out of school as a young child going for the pizza there. Well, it's delicious. Exactly. It's so worth it. It's worth the drive to Alderwood.

Exactly. So yeah, so I've known, I knew Maria since I was a young one and we both grew up here in the cooperative housing, um, between sort of H street and 13th street, uh, and the Lakeshore community. Sure. Okay. New Toronto. Yeah. Yeah. So that was an incredible opportunity to grow up. We grew up playing manhunt, you know, lots of other kids in the neighborhood, lots of single moms in our immediate community. So that was, yeah, an incredible opportunity to learn about community building, community engagement. And I started going to LAMP way too early. Okay, so tell the people who aren't from our hood, like, what is LAMP?

LAMP. Because LAMP's incredible. It is incredible. LAMP is a community health center. We're, I would say, one of the leading ones in the province. We've got the words and recognitions to prove it. But we do a lot of important work. There's both a primary care facility, so folks see their doctor, you know, chiropod, to out of the cold and adult programs, all that kind of stuff. So LAMP is designed to support folks, you know, in a number of different ways. And I work there. I'm currently on a leave of absence, but I do work there as a health promoter.

So you're on a leave because you're running for city council. I am. An unpaid leave, which is also another one of those. And this speaks to the wealth issue. So you're on a leave because you're running for city council. I am. An unpaid leave which is also another one of those. And this speaks to the wealth issue because... Thank you. Yeah, like the sacrifice

you need to make to try to unseat an incumbent. Yeah. Okay. Pretty huge. So I've got a few questions but the biggest reason I have is why does Mark Grimes need to go?

I think honestly, I believe in term limits so that's the first thing. The councilor's Grimes need to go? I think honestly, I believe in term limits. So that's the first thing. The councillor's been in, this will be, I think, his fourth or fourth or more term. And I do think that for residents to be best served, we need folks who are reflective and in touch with what's going on, you know, in the streets and on the ground here in our communities. After 20 years, you know, they say a good CEO should switch out or, you know, be replaced after five or six years. And I think councillors is a similar idea. So I do think two terms is a good limit for councillors. And frankly, the councillor has not been a sort of collaborative and engaging with communities like mine. So I've advocated, I've participated in a number of deputations

and consultations over the years. And it got to the point where our own councillor wouldn't want to meet with us, but we could go meet with David Miller, who was the mayor at the time at City Hall, and who found opportunities for me and the youth that I was working with and supporting to use our voices, to engage with council, to do all kinds of different things. Yeah, because he cared and believed in the future and knowing that youth are the future and should be engaged and not ignored.

And so, yeah, that's one of the big reasons that I think led me on this path and why I would love to unseat this councillor and bring a different kind of leadership to council. Well, let the record show, I believe the children are our future. Treat them well and let them lead the way. Amen.

Okay. It's funny. Yesterday night I recorded an episode of Toast. So we do these monthly episodes of Toronto Mic'd where Cam Gordon and Stu Stone drop by and it's actually a lot of fun. We kick out thematic jams. So we kicked out our favorite songs performed by cartoon characters

and or puppets this happened last night and then i brought up i wanted reaction from them from um like lisa laflamme was let go and it's like and then i thought stew was i think stew uh i don't want to put words in his mouth because he accused me of that in the past but it sounded like he was in favor of term limits for like media people he was like like why should she have that job for life like this was his argument and i was thinking oh maybe maybe you're right maybe these anchors need a term limit lisa you served her uh eight years or whatever it's time for somebody else to host uh ctv news here do you and again this isn't just randomly wondering now since i have an intelligent human being sitting across the table from me uh what are your thoughts on the lisa laflamme thing

like i know we need some more detail here but it yeah it sounds like i got i don't know there's the media is running away with this and this that and the other but uh there was some um pause if i just wonder if this has anything to do with her deciding not to dye her hair anymore. You know what's so funny, Mike? That was actually going to be the thing that I pointed out, was that I love some Lisa Laflamme. I'm very impressed and constantly inspired by her as a woman, as a leader, as a strong anchor.

And I was so thrilled to see her go full Silver Fox and embrace the gray. I think she's gorgeous. I've also embraced the gray. Yeah, you know what? So am I. When I wear my hair out, you can tell the whites are ridiculous. Like, it's insane. Because you hide it well. I do hide it well.

And then my young face helps it out, right? When people see our photo by the tree afterwards, try to spot me. You can count my whites. Let's see. Yeah, but no, you know what? I think there's definitely discussion to be had. I think, you know, fresh blood, new perspectives

and all, you know, things that are influencing the public, right, and kind of impacting our collective discourse are important. But I think the way it was handled was a little bit, it was where I was certainly disappointed. Like from a PR standpoint, and I mean the way it was handled was a little bit, uh, it was where I was certainly like from a PR standpoint. Uh, and I mean, you tell me why, but I think you're going to suggest that Omar, uh, could have, they could have announced Omar taking the gig like at a later date, like maybe that

day when we all learned Lisa's, uh, been let go. Yeah. Like to right away, like almost right away they go into like, oh, Omar's here. And then Omar's tweeting about like, uh, excited to like follow in her footsteps or whatever. yeah like to right away like almost right away they go into like oh omar's here and then omar's tweeting about like uh excited to like follow in her footsteps or whatever but like you know like the corpse is still warm like even though lisa knew on june 29 we only found out like wednesday this week and we were all shocked yeah you know why it's shocking again i don't i don't actually watch this newscast i should disclose that as well but not. You know why it's shocking? Again, I don't actually watch this newscast. I should disclose that as well.

But not that it matters, but it's just not the newscast I watch. But the fact is she was like award winning. Like she kept winning anchor of the year. I don't know who votes for those things, but she was winning like recently. Like she just won. And everybody tells me that's the most watched show this country produces. Like this is the most popular program made in canada is that so if it's the most popular program and it's award-winning it's very interesting yeah that she's been told

her services are no longer required going in a different direction it'll be interesting yeah and then you you know i don't know her from uh from any i don't know her from eve what's the expression of a woman i don't know her at all yeah i've never you know i haven't met her she hasn't come over but like i so i don't know but if i don't have any comment on her and what it was like to work with her and how she was as like a colleague or a teammate i have no idea but uh this will get a country's attention because uh she was a woman with a great public persona and role in journalism. And yes, she did stop dyeing her hair during the pandemic. And I thought that was cool. Because, you know, I'm not going to dye my hair.

Why should she have to dye her hair? I thought she still looked great. The silver fox thing or whatever. And then, bam, gone. Yeah, really disappointing. But again, right, I think it's about, you know, communication and transparency, I think can go a long way to managing situations and, you know, how they impact folks or don't.

And so, again, I'm not here to tell, you know, CTV News how to… That's not a municipal jurisdiction. folks or don't. And so again, I'm not here to tell, you know, CTV News how to, right? Yeah. How to manage their HR situations and you know, all of that. But yeah, yeah. I did take PR though. I do have the background in the... Okay. Cause that leads into my next question. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, and usually the strategy is tell it all, tell it fast, right? So if you're going to let her go, all right, tell it all, tell it fast, you know, and keep it moving. But I do think that communicating, you know, with folks and making sure that there is just a thoughtful approach. We're all human beings. We all have feelings. You know, everyone needs a paycheck. You know, we love our work and should be supported and treated fairly. So in any event, I hope they

work it out and I hope Lisa gets a sweet package. Well, here's the thing we should, the obvious here is that you can fire anyone for any reason. Like, like the fact is, as long as you, uh, sever them fairly, you know, like, you know, you don't actually need to have cause or anything like that. You can just say goodbye as long as you sever fairly. So I'm sure, uh, I'm sure she's fine and I'm sure she'll, um, do something else that she enjoys. Yeah. My first thought was, oh, she should join your team. Yeah. Oh, well, that too.

I'd love to have her support. She could be like your media represent, whatever. I got a great media guy from Imoco. Better than Lisa. Yeah. Well, she's awesome. You got to shout him out. I don't know.

Yeah. TJ. He's been holding it down on our media relations side. And actually, we've been getting a lot of pickup this week. So I'm sure it'll be exciting. Okay, who's picking you up? Well, I've got a couple interview requests on my email that I'm going to get to when we're done here.

Better than this. Better than Toronto Mike. Toronto Mike. Are they going to give you some Great Lakes beer? No, they're not going to give me a Great Lakes beer. And we're going to have to have that conversation too after this. Okay, okay. Wink, wink.

Okay, we'll leave that one for a minute. But I will shout out TMLXX. In fact, Amber, take a note in that. It's very important. Okay. And by the way, TJ, I have a cross paths with the guy. Yeah, cool guy. Okay.

Yeah, he's wonderful. Raising his family here. Yeah, I think we skated together. Oh, great. At the Long Branch Arena. I tried to get my six-year-old to figure out how to skate. Quite something. And I think it's like that.

We did it every week. She's like, oh, I don't know if she wants to hold my hand and then the very last day she put it all together like the very last day and it all came together now she's a yeah she's a soccer star oh wow great yeah i'm saying yeah some of us take longer than others all right so this is important september 1st this is thursday it's coming up from 6 to 9 p.m i'm hosting a big event at Great Lakes Brewery in your ward. Amazing. I think I'm going to have to be there. You should be there. Yeah. 6 to 9 p.m. And you're going to be fed because Palma Pasta. Now Palma Pasta is in Mississauga and Oakville.

But of course, you know, everybody in your ward gets their Italian food from Palma Pasta because it's delicious. So Palma Pasta is going to feed everybody. Great Lakes is hosting and the first beer is on them. Okay. And we're going to have Canna Cabana is going to be represented there. Sticker U.

A Ridley Funeral Home. Brad Jones, who I mentioned earlier. He's got a great podcast, by the way, called Life's Undertaking. He's going to be there. This is going to be a great night and I want all FOTMs to come out because we're celebrating 10 years of toronto mic'd it's the 10th toronto mic'd listener experience tml xx there's going to be some great music we're going to have a mind

blow contest so i want you to start working on this amber so we have an open mic and fotms will come to the mic and share a mind blow and if it's a mind blow that we didn't already like that hasn't already been like shared on Toronto Mike, you know, and we're going to have me, Stu and Cam are going to judge the greatest mind blow and have a mind blow champion. This is going to become a new TMLX tradition.

Okay. So tell TJ to get that in the calendar. He should be there too. Yeah. We'll, I'll bring him along for sure. Okay. Amazing.

Amazing. So how do you get the word out, Amber, that you're running? Like what is, so you mentioned a couple of for sure. Okay, amazing, amazing. So how do you get the word out, Amber, that you're running? So you mentioned a couple of interviews here. You're in the Toronto Star with FOTM David Ryder, who I think will be at TMLXX. Now you're in the big leagues because now you're on Toronto Mic.

This is a very big deal. How do you get the word out that you're running and that you would represent my riding best? Yeah, you know what? It's good old fashioned hard work. It's getting to the doors. That's the most impactful way to win an election is to meet with the residents who you're trying to, whose votes you're trying to get.

So knock on doors. Knocking on doors, dropping off lit, you know, attending the awesome events like yours that's coming up on September 1st and connecting with community members, listening to them, hearing what matters to them, and just sharing my awesome personality and my vision for the future of Toronto that's inclusive and equitable and hopefully getting folks on board. So that's what the work looks like. That's why we started in May.

And we've actually almost delivered 50,000 pieces of literature in our ward already. And that was just round one. Amazing. And what about social media? Like, how do you use social media to connect with residents? So I actually stopped using social media pretty much after the last election for a number of different reasons, but I'm slowly but surely shaking off the rest and getting out there. I do have a team who supports me. So if you are sliding into the DMs of the Morley4Word3 account, there is a team managing that. It is not me personally. So just a note.

But we do welcome, of course, folks reaching out. And yeah, I have an incredible, again, another number of community members, Maria included, who are helping out with my social media presence. And yeah, slowly getting into videos and doing more interactive stuff as things heat up what are your thoughts on uh ranked ballots like where are we at with that that's been like doug ford stomped on that like we're not getting ranked ballots but i mean forever i felt felt like uh ranked ballots would be far more democratic than this first past the post i absolutely agree i think i'm a big proponent of rank ballots. I think if you look at things like our provincial election results,

when we're splitting between, you know, three major parties, the majority of residents in Etobicoke Lakeshore voted for something other than a PC representative. But that's what we got because we have first passed the post. And again, it's not the most representative form, you know, method for us to reach better representation in elected office. And so I'm a big proponent of it. No, I have very real memories of when it was Olivia Chow, Doug Ford, and John Tory running for mayor

that I wanted Olivia Chow to win that election. But more than wanting Olivia Chow to win that election, I didn't want Doug Ford to win that election. But more than wanting Olivia Chow to win that election, I didn't want Doug Ford to win that election. And I remember casting a vote, and I remember thinking in the booth, like, this is so wrong that I'm voting for somebody I don't really want to win, but I always find I'm

voting against somebody more than I'm voting for somebody. How many elections in recent memory have I said, okay, who's got the better chance in my riding? Is it going to be the liberals or the NDP? Because I'm literally just trying to block out like a conservative candidate. Like I cannot remember the last time I got the vote

for the candidate I wanted. Yeah, I think that's perfectly illustrates the big problem with first past the post, right? That's not the way that democracy should be. We should be able to confidently vote for the people who have our confidence, not the people who we are kind of plugging our nose and doing it just because. And so, yeah, that's why we need electoral reform. And I think it's one of the reasons why it was taken away from us.

Okay, I pulled a jam here. There's a little, and I don't know why all my j why it was taken away from us. Okay, I pulled a jam here. There's a little... I don't know why all my jams... This one's older than Amber. So Amber 311 is like a... I think it's a 90s jam, but... This one we're going back to the 80s. This is The Politics of Dancing by Reflex.

Just a taste and then I'm gonna get to know you a little better. DJs The broadcast was spreading Station to station Station to station Like an infection Across the nation Well you know you can't stop it When they start to play

You gotta get out the way The politics are dancing The politics of dancing The politics of ooh Feeling good The politics of me When you, Amber, I don't know,

do you go for runs? Do you go for bike rides? Do you walk? What do you do? I used to paddle a lot. Yeah. I'm right now with my neighbor.

We're discussing going 50-50 on a kayak. Oh my God, do it. This is happening now. It's the best thing ever. And honestly, we're too close to the lake and it's just too gorgeous of an opportunity to not. But I actually also bought a trailer last year up north, far up north. And so the kayak's now up there, which kind of feels like a bit of a mistake.

So I haven't been getting out onto the water, which honestly is my favorite place. But yeah, that's one of my favorite things to do. And yeah, I walk in the community not as much as I probably should. I'm always zipping around trying to get from place to place. But yeah, I love, love, love this neighborhood. I live right north of Sam Smith Park. I'm there often. Yeah, I mean, Sam Smith Park. So I'm there often. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I, Sam Smith Park is fantastic and they got that great skating loop too. Yeah. I actually advocated against that loop. Full transparency. Tell me, tell me. Well, yeah. No, I dig the transparency. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So back in the day, one of the things that got me into politics and organizing to begin with was I learned that there was a couple million dollars just under a couple million dollars that was earmarked for a community center for the residents of the cooperative housing that I mentioned earlier that was built and 10 years after the buildings were done we're all growing up there and we're hanging out and we're bored and we're getting into trouble we find out about this this money that's sitting in a pod and this counselor who's sitting on the pod and nothing's happening with this money. And so we then begun the process of learning about, you know, city hall processes, Section 37 money, advocacy and all this. And so when we approach the counselor with our ask to say, hey, you know, we really think our community will benefit from this thing that was planned. What's happening with it?

Oh, well, the story we got back was that money today is peanuts compared to when it first came in, and it's not going to build the kind of facility you want. So we said, all right, cool. Let's think outside of the box, be creative, and find ways to make this happen because we know that this is an important social determinants of health, say that people need things to do, to go recreation etc anyway so then this proposal

came forward for this multi-million dollar skating oval and we said well hey parks and rec why don't you guys take that couple million dollars combine it with a couple of million dollars sitting in the pot that should have been accruing interest in my anyways um and let's build something meaningful right for residents in this area who frankly are struggling in our little block alone in new toronto 40 of us were living in poverty and like that's just you know untenable if you want to have real positive results for for communities and for folks so in any event i did work um you know not too hard obviously it got built no one's listening to me at the time um and yeah it is a gorgeous facility but in etobicoke we actually have i think just in south etobicoke don't quote me because i actually am not thousand percent sure on this but i'm 99

percent sure um in etobicoke south etobicoke alone we have more ice skating facilities than all of scarborough so it's something that, you know, it's great. And the pond actually freezes over as well. I used to skate on it when I was a young one. Yeah, sure. In the same inlet. Yeah, it's like 10 meters away from the outdoor skating oval that we man-made and put in there. So, I mean, it's lovely.

And, you know, it really is one of the, you know, gems. Our community is so, so blessed with tons of great public and outdoor spaces. But we're not really balancing that out, I don't think, you know, with taking care of folks and making sure we're building complete communities. Okay, no, and I love the transparency, because I love that skating loop at Sam Smith Park, but I feel like, yeah, we need to do that, all of these things. We could have lived without it, right? We still would have had the best community in the city. No, no, absolutely. There's lots of skating rinks, but that is the best. So shout out to that skating loop.

But now that we're in Sam Smith here, and then I'm going to ask you about, I'm going to, why did I ask you, do you bike and everything? We'll get back to that. But Lakeshore Mardi Gras. Yeah. What are your thoughts on Lakeshore Mardi Gras? Because it's just, just before the pandemic, it disappeared.

Like we didn't have it in 2019. Yeah. Like, what is it? Who, like who picks the bands and who pays for it? It's just before the pandemic, it disappeared. We didn't have it in 2019. Yeah. What is it? Who picks the bands and who pays for it? And where did it go? Because I will just let you know, I did enjoy going to my local park and watching, I'll name check some acts I watched there at Mardi Gras.

Kim Mitchell, FOTM Kim Mitchell, FOTM Sass Jordan, FOTM Helix, the band, Spoons, they're FOTM. I just realized they're all FOTM, Kim Mitchell, FOTM, Sass Jordan, FOTM, Helix, the band, Spoons, they're FOTM. I just realized they're all FOTMs. The guy, Alan Frew, who's not yet an FOTM, but will be from Glass Tiger. Like these are some big time acts that were awesome. And they would play live at Lakeshore Mardi Gras. Now we did get a Rib Fest this year, I noticed in there, which was great. But there were no acts of that caliber.

Sounds like you booked it. Honestly I actually did I contacted Mark Grimes because I had a bunch of really cool acts bands that wanted to play the thing. By the way they wanted to play for free. I'm just throwing that down there. Anyway I got some rigmarole about whatever

but in 2019, it was canceled. So why, why did it not happen in 2019? What's going on with Lakeshore Mardi Gras? Yeah. Great question. It's actually a good one for the counselor.

That was one of the, his events. I believe that his office took responsibility for bringing to the community. And yeah, I agree with you. It was an awesome time to activate the park. I often went and ate too much and too much goodies and all of that. Lots of great cover bands.

You were going for Helix. Oh, yeah. It's funny. I'm actually an 80s baby. Well, spoons are for you. Yeah. So I, yeah, I love the old cover bands. Because they're stuck in the 80s.

But they'll tell you that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And then the introduction of the beer tent was great I mean it's nice I love seeing

all the wrong breweries I recall the bad guys that's another point all these breweries in fact that's what I liked about Ribfest

is that it was Great Lakes beer which is what it should be if you're a southern Etobicoke festival please continue agree yeah no for sure

so yeah I'm not 100% sure what happened with Mardi Gras it's a great question again I think I would be speculating and I heard some rumors please continue agree yeah no for sure so yeah um i'm not 100 sure what happened with mardi gras um it's a great question again i think i would be speculating and i heard some rumors about different things but i don't actually know so i'm not going to give you any misinformation when you win and we bring back lakes we'll dig into it and put me on the committee for putting the music together i'm all about community planning committees i love those i think that's what

like lowest of the low should be playing Lakeshore Mardi Gras. Come on. I know you're an atheist. I know. It sounds like you got all the links, Mike. We're going to definitely get you on the planning committee.

Look, I'll get you Bare Naked Ladies. I'll get you Blue Rodeo. It's going to be big leagues here. Oh, yeah. I just remembered. I saw 5440

at Lakeshore Mardi Gras. 5440. Like I'm just saying, that's a big time band. Lots of big radio hits. And I know I'm, you know, speaking for Gen X when we say, give us more 5440. Like I'm just saying, that's a big time band. Lots of big radio hits. And I know I'm speaking for Gen X when we say, give us more 5440. Okay. How concerned are you, Amber?

This is a very important question as we wind down. And I've thoroughly enjoyed this. How concerned are you about low verter? Low verter. I'm concerned about low verters. How concerned are you? And this is coffee, not Great Lakes. Yeah, just double-track.

How concerned are you, Amber Morley, about low voter turnout? And I say that because I don't know what the typical turnout is for municipal elections. But in my humble opinion, and this is not who I want to win, it's just me observing as a resident of this city for my entire life.

I was born at St. Joe's in Parkdale. I've lived in my own life. Although new to this ward, but that's okay. Nine years. I've loved it. I don't believe there is an actual race for mayor. I don't believe it'll be close. I believe John Tory cannot lose this unless he decides to step down or something.

I don't know. Something amazingly unforeseen happens. So how many people are going to sit this one out? Like do people don't typically come out to vote for like city council or what is it, the school trustees and all that jazz? Talk to me about any concerns in the Amber Morley camp about low voter turnout. And I would suspect low voter turnout, which is by the way, say it, low voter turnout. Low voter turnout.

I think it's tough to come from voter to turnout, but I struggle linguistically. I would think that's your great enemy in this. You need a big turnout to overturn an incumbent. Talk to me. Yeah, absolutely. It is troubling, I think, and I think it also speaks to the lack of public trust in our institutions, right?

A lot of people don't have faith in the systems that govern us, And that is a big problem. If people don't have faith or trust in these systems, then they're not going to abide by them. They're not going to follow them, right? And that can just lead to other problems down the road. So I'm definitely, I think just my candidacy in and of itself, being someone from, you know, the demographic that I represent and the socioeconomic, myself, being someone from, you know, the demographic that I represent and the socioeconomic, you know, situation that I understand deeply and I've come from. Those are the folks who we're meeting with, right? We're talking to people who are, they don't believe in the system because it's not serving them well, but helping them understand that their participation is absolutely necessary

to make a change. And so that's why I'm participating. I'm making lots of sacrifices. I'm putting my heart, my soul into this. And I'm really trying to give us an option to encourage and inspire people for change. And it's resonating. Honestly, it is resonating. So we will be focusing on both our existing support base, but also folks who, again, don't think their vote matters or don't think that it counts.

And a lot of my work is convincing them that it absolutely does and that it should go to me. Now, for what it's worth, I would never miss an election. I would never miss an election, regardless of whether I thought it was a done deal or not. I mean, this whole concept, I will always vote because I can. I feel like this is an important right we have. And it sort of grosses me out when I find out somebody just didn't bother.

I agree. I think it should be mandatory, frankly. But that's a conversation for the federal government. We'll need another hour for that. Mandatory voting. Voting. And voting is important. And I will be voting.

And I wish you so much luck. So that day again. Now, the day of this election is October 24. Do you feel like that should be a day off work or is it okay that you have that? Well, you do technically get three hours by law. So anybody who's looking for an afternoon off, you can use the election as an excuse to leave your work a little bit early and go out to make sure you cast your vote.

You know, there are some small things in place to support folks to get down to the polls. There's also going to be advanced voting from the 7th to the 14th of October. And actually, the City of Toronto is supposed to be piloting for first time ever across the entire city mail-in voting. So folks can request a ballot to their home.

I know there's a local resident who I chat with often who's now bed-bound, unfortunately. And, you know, they're asking, how do I support you? How can I help you win? And how do I make sure that I can cast my vote? So, you know, folks like that, we're helping them to navigate the system and the processes and make sure they get their vote requests in

and, you know, can mail that in or head out to advanced voting um because we want any amber morley supporters to vote in advance and come on down on e-day to help us pull the vote and get this thing done and if you come to tmlxx i'm going to play 311 amber for you i'm coming so please make sure it's going to be loaded up yeah because there will be some live music but also i'll be playing some, you know, FOTM friendly jams. Wonderful. Something like that.

So earlier I said, like, do you run? Do you walk? Why was I going with that? Like, okay. I was going because I was curious, like, what kind of music do you listen to when you're like just on your own or unwinding? Like, what's your jam? So there's a new artist who I've been listening to a lot.

Her name is Thames. Are you familiar? Spell it for me. T-E-M-S. I am not familiar. Okay, well, Toronto Mike, while you're off camping next week, I encourage you to take a listen. It's kind of like a soulful Afrobeats kind of a situation.

But yeah, I would say I have a pretty diverse and eclectic musical taste um my father is from the islands of the Bahamas um and so you know I love some culture and some sort of like soca and upbeat kind of you know um tropical vibes kind of music I guess you could say um and certainly grew up again late 80s so Madonna and you know a lot of that kind of dance and shania twain and you know all those kinds of legends um i grew up on and yeah now i'm just kind of you know i'm open to the things i uh yes this is let me hear a little vibe right i'm digging it yeah this is like my energy right now just trying to keep it positive this is the uh the color of your energy so this is called crazy tings by thames all right you've introduced me to thames and i'm gonna be checking out thames

i like what I hear here. Awesome. And you mentioned, so you're 80s. So, okay, so you mentioned Madonna. I just feel Madonna needs to stop making women feel that they need to look like they're 18 when you're in your 60s because that Instagram filter is too much. Yeah, this is one of the reasons I came off social media.

It really is detrimental to women's mental health. Well, Instagram sucks. I don't understand the allure. I do post the photo I take of you. I will post it on Instagram. Awesome. But I actually hate Instagram. Everyone's cherry picking these

and filtering the mess out of these photos. I've never had a moment where I'm going to filter this photo. Yeah, and it's funny because I felt so much pressure. And this is one of the reasons why I was slow to kind of get back into videos and. And it's funny because I felt so much pressure. And this is one of the reasons why I was slow to kind of get back into videos and all this on social media because I was so over it. And I was like, oh, he's overly polished, overly filtered, just kind of giving fake vibes I don't really like.

And so, yeah, I'm trying to ease back in, but then find that authentic, my own authentic way to do that. That is true to me and yeah. And you're not going to filter like your photos. I mean, I might throw a filter on it,

but I'm not going to be too dramatic about it, right? Change the color a little or something. You're not going to airbrush. No, we don't photoshop.

Although you don't have anything to airbrush to be quite honest. I have makeup on. I was already. Just checking you out over here Amber. Looking great here.

Thank you. All right, I wish you so much luck. I so appreciate it. Can't wait to see you at TMLXX. I wish you so much luck. Can't wait to see you at TMLXX. I can't wait to be your counselor. It's going to be great. When you are my counselor and I'm in charge of Lakeshore Mardi Gras.

Maybe we'll talk about rebranding that thing. Don't worry, it's not going to become Lakeshore TMLX. Let's just merge these events here. Come on, I got Tom Wilson. I got Danny Graves from The Watchmen. let's just merge these events here yeah yeah uh come on i got tom uh tom wilson i got uh danny graves from the watchman i've got uh blair packham we're all in discussions to entertain everybody and palm is going to feed everybody and great lakes is going to host everybody and there's going to be an after party and that's when we're going to enjoy canna cabana because uh no smoking allowed at great lakes brewery yeah and uh yeahley Funeral Home is going to be there if things get out of control.

They're ready to take care of the business. And our new sponsor, hopefully, will make an appearance as well, Electronics Products Recycling Association, because we have all these, and I'm going to go into more detail in the coming weeks, but we have all these smartphones. We need a new smartphone. What do you do with your old smartphone? What do you do if you're an old smartphone? What do you do, Amber, when you need a new

iPhone or whatever? Oh my god, the environment. We need to think about the environment first. What are you doing, Amber? Are you throwing it in the garbage? Are you just hoping no one notices that you tucked it into the garbage? Well, there's also Toronto Environment Days, and there are also great there's a recycle tool online. Folks can go online

to the City of Toronto's website and check where to recycle your different kinds of potentially toxic or electronic materials. I'm going to tell Diane Sachs. You're one of the good ones. Because I produce her Green Economy Heroes podcast. And she's always looking for green economy heroes. So if you know of any in our ward, let me know. Because she's looking to have these conversations with Canadians across the country. You know, making money with green businesses.

I definitely will. You have to let me know. Is there anything else, okay, before I do the extra? On your walk here, you're thinking, oh, I want to say this, I want to say that. This is your last chance, Amber, before the election, to say it into this microphone. Please make sure to get out, exercise your right to vote.

My team would kill me for saying this. Like, even if you, whoever you're voting for, whatever ward you're in, whatever area you're in, please exercise your right to vote. Talk to would kill me for saying this. Whoever you're voting for, whatever ward you're in, whatever area you're in, please exercise your right to vote. Talk to your neighbors and friends. Get involved in our democratic processes because they only work for us if we work at them. What's your website

again? AmberMorley.com Anyone in the province can donate and I'm looking to raise $90,000. We are well on our way but got a bit of a ways to go. So please help me out getting to that goal of 90K. AmberMorley.com forward slash donate. And Morley is M-O-R-L-E-Y.

Yeah. Love it. Okay. And that brings us to the end of our 1,101st show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. And Amber, remind me of that Twitter handle. At Morley4Ward3.

Is that a numeric four or is it an F-O-R? F-O-R spelled. Thank you. Okay. I'm going to tag you on this and everybody will figure it out. Thank you. Amber Morley, she's a great FOTM. Love having her on board. Total

pleasure. Thank you so much, Mike. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. Or is it Pasta? What do you say? Pasta? See, Jim Cuddy wants to know why I say Pasta. And that's

what got me into all that Dennis Weaver trouble. You have to listen to that episode i'll have to yeah sticker you is that sticker you love sticker you they're gonna have a presence at tmlxx they're in liberty village so they they can't vote for you but maybe their employees live here electronic products recycling association they're at epra underscore canada they're in mississauga by the way ridley funeralley Funeral Home here in New Toronto in your ward. They're at Ridley FH. And Canna Cabana, they're at Canna Cabana underscore.

See you all next week. And I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun places I better not name. And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour. But I like it much better going down on you. Yeah, you know that's true because everything is coming up rosy and green. Yeah, the wind is cold cold but the smell of snow

warms us today and your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away cause everything is rosy now everything is rosy yeah everything is

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