Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Andie Pandie Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1978

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

In this 1978th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Andie Pandie kicks out the jams in celebration of her birth year 1978.A version of this podcast without programmatic ads is available to all Toronto Mike&...#39;d Patrons at patreon.com/torontomike.Toronto Mike'd, an award-winning podcast, is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca.If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Andy and I am here to kick of the jams with Toronto Mike on episode 1978 of his award-winning podcast. Damn right, it's award-winning. I'm glad you've been paying attention, Andy Pandy. Welcome to episode 1,9708, 1978. The Year of Andy Pandy's Birth of Toronto-Miked. That made no sense. Okay, an award-winning podcast, proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery.
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Starting point is 00:01:25 means properly recycling our electronics of the past. And Ridley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community since 1921. Joining me today to kick out the jams in honor of her birth year episode number, it is indeed Andy Pandy! Get this look. Go back in the days, everything was all small and calm and shit was like, yo, man, I'm building, girl, I'm building, man.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I'm saying, like, remember back in like a 70, fucking 79? Everybody's not a lot. 9, 987. That was my favorite shit, girl. Whole old shit. Everything was roughly, man. Yo, go get the fuck out the rain, nigga. The fuck, who the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Hey, yo, ghost, your Ray. What's up with y'all niggas, man? The fuck y'all nigga. Hey, you know, everybody's talking about the good old days, right? Everybody, the good old days, the good old days. Well, let's talk about the good old days. Yeah, started off on the Allen, A.K. Shalachan, niggas whaling.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Gunshots, stone, and phone daling. Back in the days I'm eight now, making a tape now. Ray gotta get a plate now. Ignorant and man, young, wanted to be the one till I got loud, felt one. Yeah, my pops was a fiends in 16, shooting that, that's that shit. In his bloodstream, that's the life of a cranny, real-eye cramie. If niggas know that happens behind me, day one, yo, growing all up in the ghetto. Now I'm a weed fiend, jetting the palm metal.
Starting point is 00:03:27 In Medina, yo, no doubt. The guard got crazy clap. pushing the big joint from now south So if you're filthy stacked up Better watch it back and duck Because these beams they got it cracked up Now my man from up It's solid as a rock and crazy saw
Starting point is 00:03:43 No jokes I'm not playing Get his folks Desert Eagle is dick And put him in a yoke And the note for sure I got wrecking rip shop I pointed a gap at his mother's night Bird don't do that shit man
Starting point is 00:03:54 Burroughs out Fuck that You're dedicated to the winners And the losers Dedicated to all deeps So for those of you're like to set the acts. Dedicated to MPVs. So for those of you who don't know, this is Wooten Klan.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Can it be also simple? Released in 1993. Mike might have an idea of one of the reasons why I picked this song. Okay, so we're going to set the table. Here we are. We're playing 3D chess, Andy Pandy and I. So I was like fifth or sixth in line. I can't remember you can tell me for the definitive record.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You had an extra ticket to see Wu-Tang Gang, as Trudy would say. Shut at Trudy. At the RBC Amphitheater, what number, like, down the list did you go to get to me? I don't remember exactly, but you were, like, a solid five. Five, okay, so somebody bailed on you, somebody buffied you, Andy Pandy, and then you're like, oh, I got a, who wants this seat? And you went down the list, you got the number five. That was me, and I said, okay, I can bike to you.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I can be there for nine o'clock. and I had a great night with you. And then afterwards, I was texting with FOTM Hall of Famer Stu Stone. And he was there too, but we didn't see each other there. And then he said, where were you? And I said, I was on the floors, right? What were we? 102 or something?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, like 9th row. 9th row. Okay. So, and Stu's mind is blown. He's like, oh my God, Toronto Mike, 9th row. How did you get those great seats for the Wu Tang gang? Shout out to Trudy. And I said, oh, Andy Pan.
Starting point is 00:05:45 gave me a ticket. And he said, Andy Pandy for doing that deserves her birth year episode, just like Leslie Taylor, 1963, got her birth year episode. And I said, Stu Stone says you should have episode 1978, because you're born in 1978. And you hummed and hawed, and then you said, okay. And now I'm here. And now you're here. And we're out of the gates here. So tell me about your love for the Wu-Tang. clan. Yeah, it's kind of funny because growing up, like, I mean mainly, I was a kid in the 80s, and so pop music was my life. And then all of a sudden, I got into high school, and I start getting introduced to new music. And I didn't think I really ever liked hip hop or that I would
Starting point is 00:06:35 like it. And then someone introduced me to Wu-Tang clan, and that was it. I was hooked. And I've seen them in concert now. I think three times. Plus, there was a show that Method Man did with, like on his own at the Beer Fest one year. C&E Banshell, that was the year I interviewed Chuck D. Was it the same year? Wasn't that the public enemy year?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Was it Rizza or something? No. Okay, there were other members of routine. No, no. It was, I think it was a few years before. Okay. That because it was pre-pandemic. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Well, this was 20. Because right after, it was this summer after the Raptors won the world championship because I was talking to Chuck about it. But there was other members of Wu-Tang clan on the bill. But your concert predated that beer fest at the CNA abanisha. Yeah, it was Method Man and Redman did a show together. That would make sense. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Did you know Method Man was in the wire? I did know that. I haven't seen it. Believe it or not, don't. Do you want to borrow my DVD box set? I can let it. I lent it to leave a Funkka. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I know you did. Do you have a DVD player at home? Probably somewhere. Okay, that's a better answer than I thought. Okay, I haven't had one on quite a while, but I do have the DVDs. Okay, so we're going to roll with your jams. So right out of the gate. Now, that prelude thing, is that part of the song or is that like a...
Starting point is 00:07:58 That's on the album. That's on the album. Like I said, 1993, entered the 36 Chambers. I think it was their debut album. So when I got your list of 10 jams, it's really all over the place. Like I quite dug it because, you know, there we are with some 90s hip hop. And we're about to go into like my stuff. I got four years on you.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But you're about to dive into like right now some like core grunge. But I'm looking along the way. There's a lot of songs here that really hit home for me, like my kind of jams. But there's some top 40 pop that guilty pleasures, if you will. And then I won't spoil anything. But we're going to close on quite the note here. I can't wait to get there. But are you ready for jam number two?
Starting point is 00:08:36 I sure am. Yes, Andy. Single soundtrack I pulled out his drumsticks to jam along during this song Honestly, this is core mic stuff Like you're in the heartbeat right now Like hook this to my veins Yeah, no same.
Starting point is 00:09:58 This is an amazing song. I was so speaking about like I said I got into high school and I kind of moved away from the pop And into hip hop, but grunge too Like that hit right when I was like, you know, 13 years old and I mean honestly I could have picked any Brunch group like Nirvana Pearl Jam Stone Temple Pilots whatever but this song
Starting point is 00:10:19 this song is like an ultimate banger it's so good even like I had a good friend in high school who was only into like hip hop and reggae and whatever and she thought she hated like rock music and then I played this song for her and she was blowing away she was like okay I've changed my mind would though also
Starting point is 00:10:40 Also, for Andrew Wood. This is correct. Mother Love Bone. Yep. And like you said, on the single soundtrack. Which was a key sound. I mean, again, it's funny because I think I have a brother born your birth year. And we do have a lot in the Venn diagram.
Starting point is 00:10:54 There's a lot of overlap because it's only four years. But there's a lot of misses because of the four years where I can see the spots actually along the way here. But you were into the single soundtrack. Yeah. And this was also on Dirt, I think. Yeah. That's one of the three-legged dog on the cover, right? Yeah, Dirt's a great album.
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's a play-thru. It's a total play-thru. You got rooster on there. You got one-liss. Yeah. And even like Faclest, which I think was 1990. Man in the Boxes on that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Yeah. Okay. Which they play at hockey arenas to this day when somebody goes in. That's right. So Allison Chains is that's a core grunge band. Core, also the name of the Stone Temple Pilot album. Correct. A core grunge band for you.
Starting point is 00:11:37 We got to let Lane Staley do this part at the end here. Hold on. Unbelievable. Have you seen Allison Chains since they replaced the lead singer? I have. I was just going to say I was never lucky enough to see them when Lane was still alive. But I did see them at Moulson Amphitheater, actually, where we saw Wootang. Can I guess? Because I was there too. Okay. Go for it. They opened for Velvet Revolver.
Starting point is 00:12:22 That may have been. How do you not remember the opening band? Because I was there to see Allison Chains. Okay, okay. So. And the replacement singer did a really good job. Yeah, he sounds a lot. And you still have Jerry Control, right? who's like the core of the band as well.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So, no, it's great show. Yeah, it still worked. Yeah. So if it is the show I went to at the amp, it was, yeah, it was, it was Allison Chains of the new lead singer. And then Velvet Revolver, where they did like Guns and Roses stuff for Slash, because he was there, and they did Stone Temple Pilot stuff, because Scott Weiland was the lead singer of Velvet Revolver.
Starting point is 00:12:55 But was he still alive then? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. Okay. You ready for a third jam? I am.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Prison sex by Tool Pardon? A very heavy song subject-wise. I guess music too. But a couple of things about this. I love Tool. I was lucky enough to see them in 1994, I think, at varsity arena.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Back in the day when they still had concerts there. Where I took some final exams. Probably the same. I did. I did. Yeah. Because I think they probably, like, I don't remember when they stopped holding concerts there.
Starting point is 00:15:29 But, yeah, UFT just took it right over for stuff like that. Well, they used to have concerts at Bimo Field, too, and they don't do that anymore. Like, we have these venues just sitting there, but yeah. Anyways, and it was a weird show because Flaming Lips opened for them, which I thought was like a really weird combination, flaming lips and to all. Amazing, amazing, live.
Starting point is 00:15:48 But also this song in particular, because the video, if you were into much music at that time, and had like this amazing stop motion animation video that creep me the fuck out when I was a kid. Sorry being so rude to interrupt the great Andy Pandy as she kicks out the jams for episode 1978. Her birth year, everybody. So she means you're under 50.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Congratulations. I did that math really kick him ahead. Did they do a lot of stop motion animation videos because the video I remember best from Tool was for so. Right. And that was also stop motion. So was that the continuing theme? I mean, I don't know that they did many videos, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I think those might be the only two, at least the only two that I can remember. But like the prison sex one, I think, because the subject matter of the song is so heavy. Like it's about child abuse, child sexual abuse. And they just did such a good job with that video. And even today when I watch it, I'm like, oh, man, this is so good. Okay. Did you have a favorite VJ by any chance? VJ?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like VJ on much music? Oh my gosh. I have you on the spot, but I'm just, I have upstairs Rick the Temp's book, and he stares at me through this book every day, and I say, oh, I got to read this. Rick was a little bit, a little tiny bit. Like, he was like the temp when I was still watching, right? Like, he wasn't really. Like, I want to say Steve Anthony.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Go ahead. Popular BJ. Yeah, maybe it was Steve. I don't know. Okay, well, everybody down like five packs of, like, Aspartame, whatever, whatever that was called, and in honor of Steve Anthony. Okay, that's a good answer. I think he was a very popular VJ.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. Okay. And Tool, did you ever see Maynard's other project, A Perfect Circle? Not live. I saw him at an Edge Fest once. Oh, really? I saw I'm bringing it up. I remember a perfect circle at an Edge Fest at Molson Park and Berry.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Nice. Okay. You got a multiple projects on the go, Andy Pandy. Okay, we're going to let Tool take us into the next jam, a personal favorite. Let's do it. Love this song so much. Andy Penny, I fucking love this song. I've got Gunty Master's Guy.
Starting point is 00:19:25 In the Garage by Weiser from their Blue album. One of my, maybe one of my ten favorite albums of all time. It has a really special place in my heart. When I was 16 in grade 11, I went on probably the best school trip ever. We went to Amsterdam. I know, it was the best. We went to like Blue Mountain. No, it was dangerous.
Starting point is 00:19:48 were a bunch of 16-year-olds to go to Amsterdam, but we did. But I had two of my friends who were on the trip, and no one thought to bring music, except for my friend bought one album, and it was Weezer's the Blue Album. So whenever I hear anything from that album, I think about that amazing, amazing trip to Amsterdam. Great story, great trip.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I know we're being top secret about your identity. Would you disclose the high school? school or is that too close to me? No, it was a Tobico collegiate. Okay. I know what my nephew goes there. Jeff Healy went there. And now he's at Parkland Cemetery.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I just had a really funeral home. I just talked to Colin James and he was talking about his mentor, Stevie Ray Vaughan, and he's like, he wants to make sure, you know, he didn't just mentors Colin. He mentored many, including Jeff Healy. Beautiful. Yeah. And Amanda Marshall comes out of that camp. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 You know it all. The hockey player, Ken. Ken, son. Kendryden. Kendryden. Memorialized on Toronto Mike by your MP James Maloney.
Starting point is 00:20:53 That's correct. And the problematic Bruce Dovigan and the legend that is Steve Pecan. Correct. This is fun. And this album,
Starting point is 00:21:04 because it starts off with my name is Jonas, right? It does. So this blue album, which I bought because on CFNY, 102.1 The Edge,
Starting point is 00:21:13 I heard Undone the Sweater song. I heard literally one time and there was a Sam the record man at Jane and Bluer. Do you remember this location? Jane and Bluer. Yeah, I think so. At Jane and Bluer, there was a Sam the Record Man, and I went there, because I picked up two albums. I said, I need this
Starting point is 00:21:30 Weezer album, and it was a playthrough. Loved it, still love it. But I also picked up a Watchman CD that day, because I enjoyed Boneyard Tree on much music. Nice. These are the memories I'm having as you kick out the jams. I did not kick out the jams for episode 1984. Ramey swept in and stole that wonderful number of my birth years. 74. 74.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That's how old I look, Andy Pandy. Did you hear the Ramey the Ming's episode? I haven't heard it yet. I'm saving it for a special occasion. I hear it's pretty awesome. Absolutely. That's a, I don't know, Christmas Eve, you should listen to that one. How's that?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Okay. Let's kick, oh, you know what? Do you want a fresh, cold can of Great Lakes beer to enjoy while we kick out the jam? Do you have a hot pop? Yeah, like during the song, I can go up and get. Do you want the coffee-infused hop-pop or the regular hop-up? No, the regular one. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Awesome. Well, let's kick this and then I'll run up and get you hop-pum. Great, thanks. Andy, this song should be louder. It sounds so good in the headphones. It's too quiet. Pop that can of Hop Pop from Great Lakes Brewery. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Let me get right on the mic. Which mic? Okay. Don't break a nail. Okay, enjoy that. And tell us about your love for nine-inch nails. Yeah. I was lucky enough to have an older sister.
Starting point is 00:24:26 She's five and a half years older than me, which when we were young felt like a lot. And we shared a bedroom. And so she was kind of always in control of the music that was played in our room. And so she was really into nine-inch nails and introduced me to it, even in the earlier days. Like this is from the Broken album, which I think is 1992. But she also had pretty hate machine, which I think is 89 or 90.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I don't remember exactly. So it got a lot of play in our house, or at least in our bedroom. And then, of course, Downward Spiral came out, I think, in 94. And I remember, so I got tickets to their concert at Maple Leaf Gardens. Who were the opening acts? Jim Rose Side Show. I feel like there was someone else, but I can't remember. Anyways, I did a lot of mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And smoked some weed. And I just like I honestly thought my mind was just like my brain was going to explode. It was such an amazing show live. It was so, so good. I picked this out, this song though, because I really love this song. I mean, Damron Spiral is amazing too. But I love it, but I also feel like it's a little bit try hard. This stuff is kind of like.
Starting point is 00:25:51 really the root, like the good industrial sort of roots. And I just love it. I feel like this is Martin Street Jams we're kicking out here with the tool and the nine inch nails. Yeah, a little bit of that. Okay, very good. We're going to do a little bit of a pivot here because this song I'm about to kick out. Well, there's a fun fact that you might have heard on Toronto Mike about this particular song, but it's a personal favorite of mine.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Like I remember hearing this on Top 40 radio. on our AM dial in this city, Toronto, and like just digging something about it. It was just a catchy tune. You want to kick out something a little different than the nine inch nails. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Andy Penn, do I have the right version? Maybe there's a radio edit. There is. Okay. This is great, though. Okay, good. Songs you're happy because I don't want to,
Starting point is 00:29:00 I think I had a completely different song for one of Leslie Taylor's songs, and I'm haunted. It's been keeping me up at night. And I can't go through that. trauma again of butchering this because I have a there's a version that was played on like I don't know if it's radio edit I know what you're talking about yeah okay so you you you pick it up from here something good yeah Utah Saints um how angry and upset were you that Utah did not pick the name Saints for their
Starting point is 00:29:26 hockey to you no that's a good point that's a good way is this where but is there a part in this song where they go you you Utah Saints or that is that okay yeah does it come up in this version Okay, you keep talking. You're going to be so distracted by this. No, I'm listening to both of you. The Utah Saints. You're right, though. I had that same idea.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like, you got to name your team Utah Saints. Oh, I was so annoyed. Like, it was right there. What the hell, man? Trademarks and all that. I know, still. This actually came to my attention by a guy named Adrian, who you might know because he actually went to Michael Power.
Starting point is 00:30:03 He would have been a couple years younger than me? I don't, I think he was a couple years older than me. So he drove a yellow Camaro. We call them Rockstar Adrian. He had like long blonde hair. No, not ringing a bell. Because two years younger in high school is a big deal. It is.
Starting point is 00:30:17 No, you're right. It is. Anyways, he, like, he was... Even one year younger in high school, you didn't really, like, not too much fraternizing. Yeah, you know, you're 100% right. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:27 But he just, he drove this yellow Camero, and it was, I don't know. But anyways, it doesn't matter. What, is this safe? Hold on. Turn it up on your hair. No? It's funny how my brain.
Starting point is 00:30:37 has rewired this song, so it must be the radio edit. Or a much music video edit, maybe? No, it's, because this is just like the album version or one of the ones. Well, this is cold from the album, which I figured you would dig. Okay. You did. Please continue. And that cheering, am I right that that's a sample of the celebrations after the Blue Jays won
Starting point is 00:31:00 the World Series in 92? So, I believe you guys talked about this on the podcast before. Yes, we did. I had forgotten about that until you. mentioned it. Like, I think this came up on a pandemic Friday, uh, with Cam and Stu. Yeah, no, I remember you guys talking about that. I believe it. Sounds good to me. We had a good source on it. Okay. Yeah. So tell me how you were introduced to Utah Saints. Like I said, this guy, Adrian, who was really into, I should pay attention to it.
Starting point is 00:31:29 He was, you know, like, you was your typical, like, rock guy, listened to, like, classic rock and rock music and all this stuff. but we were hanging out one day and he pulls up in this yellow Camaro and he is blasting this song and it was so unlike any of the music that he normally listened to but I was in love with it and he was nice enough to lend me the CD
Starting point is 00:31:50 and I think I had this song on repeat for like a month straight. It was all I listened to. Yeah, so good. It is good. I'm going to play what YouTube is calling a radio edit just to see if it's what I was, my brain was wired to expect here.
Starting point is 00:32:06 please stand by for YouTube man. No, this is not it either. Yeah, I don't think so. What if we just spent 90 minutes where I hunted for this version, this remix or whatnot? The thing about songs like that is they get remixed to Hell and Gone and then you end up with a, you know, a dozen different versions and... I think on that album they had like three or four different versions of the song too.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Okay, I'm going to try one more here. No? Okay, we're going to abandon this exercise because, I'm not going to edit this out. So I'll do one more, okay? Can I do one more? Of course. It's your show.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yes, that's true. Okay. What are you going to do? Stop me? Okay. Um, bum, bum, bum. Let me... One last shot before we roll into your next jam.
Starting point is 00:33:00 But, uh, because there's a, there's one where they shout, you, you, you, Utah, Saints. Like, that's a part, like a thread that runs through it. Yeah. And you don't hear once in that version from the album. So obviously I was listening to a. different version of this song. We'll abandon this mission because
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm not going to be able to do it in real time. I have let you down. Okay, but that's a great song. And here is your, get my tracking right? Okay, so this is a song I wasn't sure I knew, okay? So I'm just telling you, the first song you're kicking out,
Starting point is 00:33:35 I wasn't sure I knew. So let's listen together. You may not know this song, but you know Moby. Yeah? Oh, yeah, for sure. Every time you touch. I had like all the songs licensed to commercials. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I was actually introduced to Moby earlier. This came out in 1995, but we were talking about awesome soundtracks before with a single soundtrack. And Moby had a bunch of songs on the cool world soundtrack. So terrible, terrible movie. Amazing, amazing soundtrack. And for some reason, my best friend, I think that movie came out in like 1992 years. my best friend bought me the CD. And, like, I went in totally blind and was in love with it, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Like, I think, yeah, singles, cool world, and less than zero are the best soundtracks ever. I could do this all night with you, Andy Fannie. I know I told you, the parking's only good until midnight. You're going to have to get a permit. Okay, you ready? I will die on that hill. Well, I mean, that's very subjective. Don't die, but shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Starting point is 00:36:22 But you're missing, like, Tarantino soundtracks. You don't have love for the Pulpiction or the Reservoir Dog soundtracks. Also, a movie I didn't care for, but the soundtrack I adore with all my heart and soul is the Judgment Night soundtrack. Where the rap stars and the rock stars collaborated, you have not heard the Judgment Night soundtrack. You need to hear it. I will listen to it for you. Honestly, you need to do because I feel like, because I feel like, because I feel like, because I'm not heard the soundtrack. I'm looking at your jams and you got your hip hop, you got your rock,
Starting point is 00:36:57 and it's like having peanut butter and chocolate, what if they combined? Like, what if they went together? That would be the judgment night soundtrack. I mean, Less than Zero had a bit of that because it had L.O. Cool J on it. It had Public Enemy on it. The same song. I know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:11 What public enemy song is on that soundtrack? How can I not remember the name? The one they did with Anthrax. Bring the noise. Okay, well, there. That is a, that is a, rock rap, hybrid. Okay, well, that's a good example because I think the first big example is, of course,
Starting point is 00:37:28 Run DMC and Aerosmith with Walk This Way. That's right. And then you get your, uh, bring the noise with anthrax and public enemy. And then you get the judgment night soundtrack. All right. I will, I will listen to it for you, Mike. Anyways, this song, it came out in 1995. Um, and that's the year I started dating my husband.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Okay. And I just can remember. It was. And I can just remember, like, driving, he had this black Honda Civic that he had souped up, and I thought it was so cool. And I just remember, and, you know, those, you know how guys used to put those crazy speakers in their cars,
Starting point is 00:38:06 like boom, boom, boom. The subwoofers? Yes. And so I just remember driving around, just aimlessly driving around, listening to this. So it always reminds me of those early days. What album? So is this on a proper Moby album?
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. Everything is wrong. Okay. Is the album. Is that an album after play? Uh, yes, I think so, because I think play was the year before. Okay, because play is the album where you would, you know, porcelain, for example, you had all these huge jams.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah, yeah. Okay, I like it. I like, uh, I like learning about your, your, your musical history here. Oh my goodness gracious. Are you ready for your next jam? I sure am. I had this cassette. You didn't.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Unless you want the bridge up. I don't want to. No, no, it's all good. Madonna Peak Madonna As far as I'm concerned Like said True Blue 1986
Starting point is 00:40:32 I'm pretty sure It was the best-selling album of that year So I think everyone owned it It's also the last Madonna album I ever owned Really? Yeah You didn't even get the Immaculate Collection
Starting point is 00:40:44 Nope Shame on you Mike Oh my goodness Last one This is the last Madonna I had this cassette Because I was a huge fan of like a virgin and I had this cassette.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I think the first single was Popper Don't Preach, I think. Am I right? I think you're right. And CFTR, of course, played the mess out of Popper Don't Preach. I recorded it in the top six at six. And I bought this cassette and I enjoyed this cassette and I never bought another Madonna. I think I just aged out of Madonna. Is that possible?
Starting point is 00:41:09 Yeah. And maybe, I mean, as a woman or girl at the time, like Madonna was the shit. Like, I mean, I had to include Madonna on this list because I was obsessed. obsessed. Like me and my girlfriends who just sit around and listen to Madonna all day long
Starting point is 00:41:27 and pretend we were Madonna. Everyone, every girl wanted to be Madonna. Did you dress like Madonna? Not really. You know what? It's funny. I dress more like Punky Brewster
Starting point is 00:41:39 because I loved Punky Brewster. I used to, I don't even know if you watched Punky Brister. Yeah, I used to like tie the little like bandanas around my legs and stuff. I was obsessed with Punky.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Madonna was like, I was really young when this came out. I was like seven when this album came out So I couldn't really dress really like Madonna But I loved her I still do Okay, have you ever seen Madonna in concert
Starting point is 00:42:03 I have I have seen her in concert Which tour was that? None like so I didn't go until Probably the last, one of the last time she was here in Toronto So like mid-2010s I don't remember exactly when it was It was great, it was at the Air Canada Center All right. I'm going to tie things up nicely here to share a fun fact.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So, Madonna was in a league of their own. She was. Which was a wonderful Penny Marshall movie. True. Who played the babysitter Bandit on the Simpsons, a season one episode. Possibly the first episode they ever made. Yeah, because didn't they make one and then hold it back? Yeah, because they were happy with it.
Starting point is 00:42:44 They needed the Christmas one first. The Christmas one was aired first. Okay. But I don't think that was the first one they made. I think they made the babysitter band. with Penny Marshall, who's, of course, LeBern from Laverne and Shirley. Okay. Which is a spinoff, of course, of Happy Days.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yesterday being the anniversary of when Fonzie jumped the shark on Happy Days. Can you take notes over here with Penny? Okay, so a league of their own, which is a very fine film. I get emotional. It's got a Madonna song. This used to be our playground. Great. I thought it was, that was just the right amount of Madonna.
Starting point is 00:43:16 She's very good in it. Her and Rosie O'Donnell. And, of course, Tom Hanks kind of has a big role as a manager. There's no crying in baseball, Gina Davis. You got, what the hell is her name? Lori Petty. Lori, thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I've seen it like a hundred times. I don't know. Because she was a rising star, I feel. And then she, I don't know. She did Tank Girl, right? And then I don't think, I think it all went down from there. What happened to Lori Petty? She was like a really cool, cool actress.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Okay. So all this is a long-winded way of saying that we can't drop this episode today. We're not even live streaming. I didn't even promote it. It's a top secret recording for 19, 78, your birth year, Andy Pandy. It's a big thank you for putting me number five on that list so I can see the Wu Tang gang, okay?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Thank you for joining me. It was great night. We didn't really do what I should say. It was like cool vibes, 90s, hip hop. It was just like a sensory overload, wonderful evening. It was great weather too. It was amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Couldn't have asked for anything better. So we're recording this on Tuesday, September 22nd, but I got to wait because I In the real order of things, this would be episode 1977. But that, you weren't born in 1970. I was not. Although the Blue Jays were. Okay. Well, I took 10 years off mine a moment ago.
Starting point is 00:44:34 So this is the longest route ever to tell you that tonight is game five of a best of five series for the inaugural WPBL championship. The San Francisco firebells are taking on the Los Angeles Queens. winner take all for the first championship. And of course, this is the first North American professional women's league since a league of their own. That was a wonderful ride, Mike. And I am a little invested in this because I'm waiting to find out who wins, who's the hero, because that'll be the guest for the next episode of the WPBL podcast, which I proudly, I want to say I co-host it.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I kind of co-host it. And I definitely produce it. And it'll be exciting tonight to see who wins this one. Kelsey Whitmore is a great star on the Firebells. Ashton Lansdell, the host of the WPBL podcast, is a great star on the Los Angeles Queens. Winner take all tonight. So by the time you hear this, we'll know who won.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Amazing. Honestly, that's so cool. It is cool. And I just thought of that when I thought of Madonna, who I was a big fan of. Okay. So how is the hop-pop from Great Lakes Brewery in a penny? Delicious. I love it. More, please.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Well, I don't have a lot more of that, actually. I have only alcoholic content. Do you not drink? I drink on occasion. I'm just, I'm a lightweight and I drove here, so I didn't want to have any. No pressure, but you can maybe, and this husband of yours, does he drink beer? Yeah. No, we will, if there is beer to be had, we will certainly enjoy it. Well, there is beer to be had. Wonderful. So I'm sending you home.
Starting point is 00:46:21 fresh craft beer. I'm also sending you home in celebration of your birth year, 1978. I am sending you home with a frozen lasagna from Palma pasta. That's so great. My script says pause for applause. Pause for thank you. Okay. I also have, I have to reach over and grab it here, but Ridley Funeral Home sent over a
Starting point is 00:46:41 very cool thing for you. Play-by-play. All right. This is like, uh, it's the updated one. Yeah, there's a lot's going on there. You can... I have the green measuring tape. There is a measuring tape in that, but also it's a flashlight.
Starting point is 00:46:58 That's why you get to pull that plastic thing. And there's like a bottle opener. And there's a level. Like you might need to see if that picture of me is hanging straight on your living room wall or your bedroom wall. This is amazing. Thank you. So you can thank Brad Jones at Ridley Funeral Home. Thanks, Brad.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And Nick Aienis has a free event at the old mill on... That's in the Topico. Did you know that? The old mill on... October 7th, I think it's 7 p.m. It'll be Nick and F-O-TM-Carran Stintz will be talking. And you can, I put a link on TorontoMike.com, if you just go to TorontoMike.com and command F that sucker
Starting point is 00:47:35 and find the name Stints or something. You'll find it very quickly. Okay. And last but not least, Andy, you know if you have old electronics, old devices, old cables, I don't want you throwing that in the garbage. Those chemicals end up in our landfill. Do me a favor. Go to recyclemyelectronics.
Starting point is 00:47:51 dot CA, put in your postal code and find out where you can drop that off to be properly recycled. You know I will. You better. Okay, we have the penultimate jam here. And it's funny because when I think of Madonna, I think of that, like, I think of the mid-80s when you had like Michael Jackson and Prince and Bruce Springsteen and Madonna. And you had a duo out of England with this guy who was about to go solo and just destroy. man talk about play-through albums and then he followed that up with this sucker
Starting point is 00:48:25 are you ready Andy Pandy? I am George Michael Freedom Freedom 90 That's an important distinction because there's a wham hit called Freedom There is I had to put George Michael on this list Oh man
Starting point is 00:51:22 Listen to that voice Voice of an angel Just I was again obsessed with him from a very young age from the early WAM days. I had all the mini-pop's albums going back to one of your previous episodes. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:40 The K-Tel episode. Yes, I was obsessed with mini-pops. And there was always George Michael on there. But then I got a look at him. I don't know what it would have been like 90 or sorry, wake me up before your girl go maybe. Probably. And I had terrible gator at five years old because he was like the most.
Starting point is 00:52:00 In the 80s, we all did. Even Boy George, everybody. I know. We had no idea. Liberace, that's a straight guy, right? I just thought he was the most gorgeous boy I had ever seen in my life. And the first poster of a boy ever hung on my wall was George Michael. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:52:18 What a handsome son of a gun. Pre- Solo, this is still Wham. So he's got the big bushy blonde hair. That's right. Kind of look like Princess Diana a little bit, right? Come on. I know what's going on here. But even still like
Starting point is 00:52:32 Faith, I of course had that album. Play-through. I was going to say, talk about play-throughs? A hundred percent. C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-com on. I almost picked a song from Faith. Can I guess which one? Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Father figure. No. No, it actually would have been Monkey, but didn't you guys just play that on your monkey jams? Yeah. We did. So I was like, oh, I can't, I don't really want to repeat a song because I loved that song so much.
Starting point is 00:53:00 But no, I went with this because a great song. Yeah. And also remember the video where he had all the supermodels. He's not in the video, which is the wild thing because he was an MTV slash much music star. But it was because he was fighting with his record label. Why? I thought maybe he, okay. See, you bring in the heat.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah. I think he was fighting with his record label. So he's like, screw you. You don't get my beautiful face. Yeah. And that was kind of big. You're going to get other beautiful face. I know.
Starting point is 00:53:29 The most beautiful faces in the world. I'm going to find the most beautiful faces in the world. But, yeah, and he was kind of like, I think also like sick and tired of being objectified, basically, and was like I'm more than just a pretty face, which he was. Isn't there a scene in this video where like that scene from Faith, the jacket blows up or something? Yes, exactly. It's all coming back to me, Andy Pandy. Okay, and also I have a thing for like when you have a big album, right? And then the follow-up album's first single.
Starting point is 00:53:58 So like, we talked about it with Poppa Don't Preach. Like, oh, I love this like a virgin. I'm playing it all the time. Oh, my God, there's a new Madonna album coming out. And the radio starts playing the first single, and it's Papa Don't Preach. That's what this is. This is the first single from the follow-up to Faith. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yeah. And it's amazing. He was amazing. I get upset when I think about the fact that he died. It's just... Died on Christmas Day. I know. I remember.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I remember getting the news. Elvis, too. Not Elvis Presley. I got to be clear here. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Speaking of Ridley funeral home. Yeah. Not that Elvis is dead.
Starting point is 00:54:33 No, no, no. Hopefully we see him at the Palma's Kitchen event. I would love that. Love Elvis. Will we see you next Monday, which is the 28th of September, 2026 at the GLB Brew Pub? Will you be at TMLX23? That is the plan. I believe I'm on the exclusive guest list.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Okay, because if you're not there, I'm just going to tell you, I'm shutting it down. Like, there will be no TMLX 23 if Andy. Pandy is not there from 6 to 9 at the GLB Brew Pub, which is a lower Jarvis street, just north of Queens Key. Very much looking forward to it. You'll go east of Young for me. I will. You're one of the few people that I'll do that for.
Starting point is 00:55:14 You're a topical collegiate institute. I'm hearing all these West End references. I realize, you know, you're not going east of Young for just anybody. No. No, no, not at all. And I'll be honest, I think one of the reasons why I kind of got hooked on your podcast when I started listening. Now you have my attention.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I'm now paying attention to Annie Fannie. Because I started like really early in the show. But then you start dropping all of these atopico references. Tom's dairy freeze. Michael Power and all these things that I'm very familiar with. Mama Martino. I was like. San Remo Bakery.
Starting point is 00:55:45 This is made just for me. And I stuck through until 1878. Right. Not the calendar year. Okay. I'm excited about your final jam because I only know a couple of things about you. One is I know you're a diehard DeGrasi fan. Yeah, that is true.
Starting point is 00:56:02 That's how I got the green Ridley Funeral Home measuring tape. And I did the episode with Arlene Lott, better known as Nancy Kramer from DeGrassey Junior High and DeGrassey High. And less known as Mike Wilner's girlfriend and even less known as Queen of Pies. I think it's Princess of Pies. I promoted her. She's lovely, Arlene Lott. And you were my co-host for that episode. and that's the last time you were on these microphones.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So I know two things. I know you're a degrassy fanatic and you're a fanatic of a certain band. I won't name this band, but do we call them a band? We'll discuss that on the other side. You're ready for your final jam, Andy Pandy? I can't wait. Pause for effect. Do you want to sing along?
Starting point is 00:57:16 I wouldn't do that to everyone. Good for me. The great new kids on the block. I mean, I don't think this is going to be a surprise. to anyone that I chose this, but the right stuff. Is this the first song you ever heard from this band? No, it was probably Hanging Tough. Maybe Please Don't Go Girl, all from the same album,
Starting point is 00:58:39 The Hanging Tough album, 1988. It was definitely Hanging Tough. That was the first one I heard, too. It probably was. I will hear no New Kids on the Block slander. Okay. Well, I wouldn't dare. I was going to ask you if you wouldn't mind ranking the members
Starting point is 00:58:55 I'm your least favorite to your favorite. Least favorite to favorite. It has changed over the years. Right now, I would say least favorite is Donnie. And then... So, Donnie Wahlberg. Yes, least favorite. Yeah, he became...
Starting point is 00:59:13 Problematic. He did. Is that his wife's fault? Maybe. He's just not cool. And then maybe Danny. The musly guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Well, the other. mostly he's a lovely guy I have met him I've met all of them a few times um well so but yeah just like when I was a kid he was like way down on the list not my type and then maybe Jordan because again he's a bit of a dink but he carries his band vocally I will maybe argue that okay yes in some ways me he carries this band vocally but what about so okay next is John and then Joey it's Your favorite is Joey. It's always been Joey. And he...
Starting point is 00:59:58 Please don't go, girl. Yes. Until his voice changed. And then Jordan had to take over singing that song in concert. Yeah, when I was a kid, when I first saw new kids, Donnie was my favorite. I was always loved a bad boy. And I was like, yeah. He raps?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Yeah, very cool. And then Joe went through puberty, basically. It became like a cute teenage boy. And then it was Joe, Donnie, Jordan. John and Danny. Oh, did we skip John the first time? No. No, he's my second.
Starting point is 01:00:30 He comes before, like. Because he barely sings. I was at that most recent show of Paul Abdul, as you know. I know you were on the stage for that. I was. But you went the night before me, right? I did. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:40 We got to coordinate better next time. But I got to say, I think, I don't think the brother of Jordan, Jonathan, is pulling his weight in that band. No, no, no. He just shows up because he has to. But that's always been the case. Like, even on their album, There's only one song that he actually sings.
Starting point is 01:00:58 It's the happy birthday song, which you may have heard before. And same with Danny, Danny, only, I think has one song, too. It was always Donnie, Jordan, Joe. Right, right, right, right. And speaking of Gator being way off, like just talk to Tiffany. I'm pretty sure she knew. I think she did. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I think she was doing him a big solid. Okay, we'll get Tiffany on the podcast and find out what's going on there. Okay, that's called a beard. Yes, it is. It is. It is. Okay. So this song, I think, is a perfect pop song.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Like, absolutely perfect production-wise. Everything about it. It is just catchy as fuck. So good. And this album, so in 1988, sold 15 million copies, like, which is just crazy to think about today. I don't think there's any albums selling 15 million copies. How many? You're right.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I'd have to think about what Taylor Swift moves, but probably nothing like that. like that. But you're right. Other than Adele and Swift, those are the two names I think about, Beyonce doesn't even move those kind of units or whatever. Maybe like Drake or maybe the weekend when you did blinding lights, maybe kind of close. But that's streaming. Like it's like how do you compare these things? No, you can't. Right. And in Canada alone,
Starting point is 01:02:11 they sold one million copies of that album. Think about it. That's one in every 30 Canadians owned that album. Am I, okay, I got a, I was very familiar with new kids on the block because they were all over the Top 40 radio I told you I was listening to at this time in my life, okay? And top six, six. They would dominate, like, they would dominate these top six at sixes and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Am I right that these bands, did they break in Quebec first? Or was that the next wave when, like, the Backstreet Boys were breaking? Is that the wave that broke in Quebec? I think so. Okay, I might have my waves mixed up. This is the earlier wave. And like you said, talking about Tiffany, they basically come onto the scene because they were an opening act for Tiffany, who was huge. I loved Tiffany too. I had
Starting point is 01:02:56 final. I had her album. I remember listening to it all the time. But by the end of that tour, she had to switch to their opening act because they became so popular and did like a little switcheroo there. So I actually just think it was a bit
Starting point is 01:03:12 organic from, and thanks to Tiffany that it happened. Well, there were a lot of big hits on that album that we're talking about. Is that album called Hanging Tough? It is. But there was a, wasn't that the second album? Like wasn't there a self-title? Well, yes. Technically, it's a second album. Their first one is self-titled.
Starting point is 01:03:29 But it really didn't get any traction until... No hits on that one. Not really. They did a cover of Didn't I Blow Your Mind, which was by the... Didn't I Blow? Yeah, exactly. That came up on toast, I think, as a Paul Young cover. Am I...
Starting point is 01:03:46 I could be conflating things. I've recorded a lot this week and it's only Tuesday. But I feel like that might have been covered by Paul Young and was a hit in like... No, you're thinking of... Oh, girl. Sing it. Oh, girl. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:00 What's the other one? Didn't I blow you on this time? My apologies. You're 100% right. Two different songs. For some reason I associate those songs. Okay, absolutely. Yes, it got traction after Hanging Tuff blew up.
Starting point is 01:04:13 And then people wanted just like more new kids on the block. So they went and bought that album. It's not great. I actually, I think on one of your like listener kick out the jams, I played, I asked you to. play it for me. It was a song from that album. Was it like a Christmas song or something? I feel like they did a Christmas song. But it's just, it's a really, it's a terrible, terrible song. But I thought it was funny and you played it. So the breakthrough album is Hanging Tough.
Starting point is 01:04:42 and you play, you didn't play Hanging Tough. You played, uh, the right, sorry. No, the right stuff. The right stuff. Yes. And can you name, I'm wondering if you can do this. I'm sure you can. Can you name all the singles that came off of hanging tough. And for bonus points, if you could do it in order. It would have been hanging tough. Please don't go girl. Right. Probably the right stuff next.
Starting point is 01:05:11 No. Are you? No, no. Oh, sorry. I thought you had it up like and you were reading along. And then the one. Not everything scripted on Toronto Mike. I don't have this intelligent from me.
Starting point is 01:05:23 So, oh, she's my car girl. That's on that album, right? That's on that album, right? That is from that album. But it would have been, it would have been like a later, a single release. Oh, this is so embarrassing that I'm not thinking of it. It's the one that Jordan sings. It's the slow song.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And every time he does it in concert, they have the wind machine blowing on him and his shirt blowing open. Well, what I noticed when I saw them a couple of summers, or was it last, yeah, last summer. certain members of the band will lift their shirts. Absolutely. And the audience of women, primarily in their 40s. 50s.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And 50s. Got very happy and very excited. Okay, I have the list of, I now have the singles that came off of this album. So we can see how you did. Okay. The first single was actually, you got the order a bit, oh, you got the order wrong, but this might be different than Canada. I don't know, this is the American order of things, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:20 The first single from this album released April 16. 1988 was called Please Don't Go Girl. Right. That's the first single. You know what, actually, I do know that. But it didn't really, again, get much traction until... Until after.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Okay, because the second one is actually the song you kicked out. You got it. Paranthases, the right stuff. That was November 7th, 1988. I think Canada followed the same dates here actually. And the third one was, I'll be loving you, parentheses forever. That's the Jordan one that I was trying to think of.
Starting point is 01:06:51 That I was... Yeah, he hits that high notes. John Flankon. But then the fourth single, so we're four singles deep. This is a mind blow to meet. We're four singles deep when Hanging Tough hits the radio. Hmm. And we're not done yet because that cover girl I was singing, which was a big song, is your fifth single from Hanging Tough.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Okay. That's probably it. And the next album was that Christmas thing. I was thinking of Merry Merry Christmas here. And that first album that you said is not very good. Yes, the cover of Didn't I Blow Your Mind would be the one that they probably still play in concert. but there is a song called Be My Girl. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:27 That was the first single. And Be My Girl was big enough to get its own Wikipedia page. That's all you need to know. But it's lead vocals by Donnie Wahlberg. It's the debut single by New Kids on the Block. It was released on March 5th, 1986. Girl, I think it's time that I let you know. Louder!
Starting point is 01:07:47 That's a good song. I like that. Well, listen, it's good when you sing it. Okay, so Andy Pandy, this was very, spontaneous in that there were no plans for this, but you had heard, as did Stu Stone, that's where this comes from. Stu Stone had heard Leslie Taylor kick out the jams
Starting point is 01:08:04 for her birth year episode, 1963. And then she heard you took me to the Wu-Tang Clan, and she said that deserves a kick-out-the-jam for your birth year. And then we found out, because I asked you, what's your birth year, 1978? And I said, do you want it? you thought about it? Was it a difficult decision to say yes?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Not really. I mean, I'm a little bit shy, but I thought it would be fun. So ultimately I said yes. Was it fun? It was so much fun. Thank you so much. And thank you to Stu.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I mean, you can't say no when Hall of Famer, like Sue Stone, says you should do it. That's what I said. So probably, because Stu seems to have this ritual where he goes on the treadmill or something and he puts on the Toronto mic episode.
Starting point is 01:08:52 So he's probably critiquing these jams. I might get a text later about what he thought of your jams. I will, assuming it's positive, I'll share it with you. Don't tell me if it's bad. No, your jams or you're jams. And really, most importantly, I had a good time. Great. That makes me so happy.
Starting point is 01:09:09 And I look forward to seeing you and everybody else who can hear my voice right now. Everybody is invited to TMLX23 at the GLB Brew Pub, which is the one at Jarvis and Queens Key. So don't go to the brewery, because I won't be there. We won't be there. Go to the GLB Brew Pub 6 to 9 p.m. on Monday's September 28, 2026 for TMLX 23. Got it?
Starting point is 01:09:39 Got it. And I can't drop this now. That's the only sad part is I need to record a 1977 before I can drop a 178. So let's see who, this is a weird way to do it. But let's see who. was the previous episode. No, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I'll tell you who's coming up next, okay? This is how it'll work if everything goes according to plan, which is not guaranteed. Okay, so my next guest, which would be 1979, a smashing pumpkin song. What do we think of the pumpkins? I love them. Again, had their album,
Starting point is 01:10:13 listen to it all the time. Yeah, I'm with you. I was a big fan of Chirab Rock. Yep, that's the one. but I also enjoyed the double CD Melancholy in the Infinite Sadness I was more of a chair of rock girl Yeah well that was better
Starting point is 01:10:29 That was it had today on it it was better It was better, it was it silver fuck What's the name of that song? Yeah, mayonnaise Mayanase Yeah, that was a great album Next guest, 1979 It is not Billy Corrigan
Starting point is 01:10:41 Although one day I suspect there will be a Zoom With Billy Corrigan It's just a feeling I have But it's going to be Kathy Young She's got a story to tell don't you dare miss it see you then

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