Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Andy Kim Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd #538

Episode Date: November 6, 2019

Mike catches up with Andy Kim before he kicks out the jams.

Welcome to episode 538 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, StickerU.com, Bryan Master from KW Realty, Capadia LLP CPAs, and Ridley Funeral Home. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me this week is a man who topped the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 chart, Andy Kim. Welcome back, Andy.

Hey, thanks for the great coffee. Not too many people that I know make just great coffee. And this is totally awesome. It's French press. That's the way I roll, French press. And, you know, I judge people by the coffee they drink and the coffee they make. And this is black. I don't put anything in it so thank

you so much thanks for being here and it's a complete coincidence but you were here exactly one year ago today like this is the one year are you serious i am i i would never lie to andy kim well i mean you can exaggerate and it's an easy thing to disprove if i lie about that everybody's gonna like oh i see there's a date on every episode they'll be like mike why'd you lie about that with andy so so uh what is today's today wednesday today is we should know this right wednesday yes okay so if today is wednesday so would i have been here tuesday of last year this i don know, but I do know it was on this day. So you were here

on November 6th, 2018. You were here. I'm going to read the description because I like to start things off by while you sip that French press coffee I made you with great pleasure. Thank you.

And I'm glad you enjoy it. You know, I start every morning. So I drop the kids off at school, daycare. I come back. It's like 8 a.m. And I start the kettle and I make a French press coffee.

And that's my ritual as I begin every day. And it's a great way. I love French press. The only way I drink coffee at home is French press. Did you grow up that way? No, no. My first wife introduced me to this practice. I think she's actually left it for like those Keurig pods and stuff.

I feel like you lost your soul when you do that. Totally. My mom, God rest her soul, used to make percolated coffee. Right. Yes. It's the best. So this is close. Enjoy. Enjoy. Okay. So everybody, one year ago

today, Andy Kim dropped by and it was episode 394. So if you want the deep dive, because we're going to kick out the jams today, we're going to catch up and kick out the jams. But if you want to do the A to Z deep dive with Andy Kim, it is episode 394. And here's the description I wrote at the time. Mike chats with Andy Kim about Sugar Sugar, Rock Me Gently, and so much more. This episode was, it was one hour and 30 minutes and 18 seconds.

And did you have a good time? Like, what were your thoughts about that visit? Were you glad you came by? You know what? I had the best time. First of all, I don't like to think about anything until I'm there. And then it's really kind of an adventure. And to be able to walk away with all the gifts that you give

i was hoping i'd be invited back but you waited a year well i wanted to give people a chance to miss you that's all in the design my friend you don't want too much of a good thing is never you know you don't want to overexpose andy kim but one year a great pleasure to kick all the gems and again there's more gifts today because you got the lasagna last time. Was it tasty? Did you enjoy your Palma Pasta lasagna? Okay, so here's the deal. The deal is, you know, when someone gives you a gift, you know, like,

hey, these are home-baked cookies or it's okay. So I took this thinking. To be polite. Maybe I'll try it. And so you read the instructions, you put it in the oven, it looks good. You take a bite and it is great. So then I thought to myself, okay, this is a good swag bag.

Not quite. Is it as good as like a Juno? When you go to the Junos, is the swag bag better? Or is the Toronto Mike swag bag the best? Look, here's the issue. When you get an award, there's a lot of anxiety and there's a lot of hoping and wishing that someone else were around

so you could kind of share your life with at that moment. But this... Lasagna. The lasagna, I don't want to share with anybody. I mean, you know, you don't want to... If the doorbell rang while I was having this, it would have kept on ringing.

That's great. I'll put it that way. Okay, that's a great endorsement. So thank you to Palma Pasta, great partners of Toronto Mic'd. And that is another meat lasagna going home with you, Andy. So yes, maybe you'll be back

in a couple of weeks for more. I would have you anytime. I would have you anytime. Now, I do want to tell the listeners and you, Andy, that there's a collective of Toronto Mic'd listeners. We call this TMLX5. TMLX is Toronto Mic'd Listener Experience.

And we're all collecting at Palmas Kitchen at noon on December 7th. And it's going to be a live recording. Anyone who shows up, for example, Andy, if you showed up, you'd jump on the mic for a quick chat during this three-hour event. There's going to be free pasta there. There's going to be free beer from Great Lakes Brewery. There's going to be some great badges from Sticker U. So I urge everyone listening to come to Palmer's Kitchen noon on December 7th.

Even you, Andy. Well, it's Pearl Harbor Day. You know that, don't you? Oh, see, my apologies. I should have checked the calendar. Well, thanks for the invite. I will be working on my Montreal Christmas show at that time, so I'm going to be in Montreal.

But please save a drink and a slice of... We'll toast you. Absolutely. Thank you so much. By the way, I want to toast you right now. Congratulations, because since your last visit to the studio here, you have been inducted into the Canadian Hall of Fame, which is amazing. Well, you know what?

It's no time in my life that I ever dream about winning an award. That wasn't the deal. The deal was for me to escape the Montreal winters, go to the U.S., make records with the best, most talented people around, and have a phenomenal life. So I did all of that. In the meantime, upon reflection, some people decide to give you an award

when a whole bunch of time has passed. And I accept it with the love and the grace of which it was designed to for all artists. And the important thing for me, this one here, it's about Canadian music. It's really kind of the Juno Awards, you know, and they've gone from maybe putting one artist a year to realizing that they need to do something else.

And this year I was honored to be part of Chilliwack, Cowboy Junkies, and the late Bobby Curtola. So congrats again. And for those wondering, which Hall of Fame are we talking about? There was a big deal made a couple of years back when the Barenaked Ladies reunited with Stephen Page for their induction ceremony. And that was kind of a special moment. And of course, the Barenaked Ladies kind of play a key role in the uh can i call it can i call it a comeback oh totally i was i was um irrelevant and uh and i i always remember uh

you know that one moment doing kumbaya with them and and the moment that ed and i wrote a song and and he decided to produce it and i didn't have a record label at the time, so I put it out on my own. And we had a top 10 record. And it was just absolutely incredible. And I'll tell you how emotions are and how love is in this wonderful world of the music business. So I get inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame along with these great artists, as I mentioned. And Ed Robertson shows up and inducts me.

And I think that that was the most beautiful thing because I think we both meant a lot at that time and still mean a lot that we, different generations came together you know and you and ed have something in common in that you both wrote a number one billboard hot 100 hits this is an exclusive club not a lot of canadians have done so but you and ed have yeah you know what and and when when i hear his pinch me or any of the other songs he's written that were just... One Week was the number one hit. But I think, didn't Pinch Me hit there too?

No. Oh, One Week. But just to know Ed and to know how his mind works, it's incredible. What's incredible also is that we're celebrating the 50th. Here, let me play a little bit of this and then talk to you about it. We did it last episode. I'm going to do it again. You can't stop me, Andy. I'm already doing it. Sugar

Oh, honey, honey You are my candy girl And you got me wanting you Honey, oh sugar, sugar So I listened to this and now I listen to it and realize you're actually, your vocals are part of the mix, right? Like you're not the primary vocalist, but you're back there. Yep.

Ever since your visit, and I realize, because Jeff Barry's back there too, so you and Jeff. Jeff Barry, Tony Wine. 50 years ago. So this song, which you co-wrote with Jeff Barry, went to number one on the Billboard Hot 100 50 years ago this calendar year. So that's another reason to celebrate. Another reason you get the beer and you get the lasagna.

Thank you. Now, we did talk in depth about it, but after you were here, I realized I don't know if I really, you know, got you to talk enough about the Brill Building. So, you know, I always hear these audio documentaries. I'm very interested in, you know, the history of popular music, if you will, got you to talk enough about the Brill Building. So, you know, I always hear these audio documentaries. I'm very interested in, you know, the history of popular music, if you will, and stuff. And what was happening at the Brill Building in New York. And this is where you hook up with Jeff Barry and start writing stuff. You were a very, very young man, right? Teenager.

I was, I learned from him. He was my mentor. I mean, this is Jeff Barry, who was iconic in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He, Ellie Greenwich, Carole King, Jerry Goffin, you know, Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil. And the interesting thing for me is that, you know, I went on a wing and a prayer. But I had this uncanny feeling. You know, you believe it so much that you know that it exists. And Netflix and Banger Films are doing a documentary on the Brill Building. And so I was in New York filming this past July.

And it's really cool. Well, you know a lot of eyeballs will be on that, as they say. It's a Netflix doc. I mean, that's right up my alley, too. So it'll be cool to see. Now, whenever, you know, I'm going to watch it with my wife, maybe my teens. And then when you come on that screen, I'm going to do what I do now, which is I'll be like, you know, he was in our basement.

That's my line I've been dropping. So that's awesome. That's cool. Well, you know what um you know um it's been it's it's kind of a surreal thing that here's a song that nobody wanted to play that eventually you know broke through and stayed number one for four weeks and is so iconic that no matter where in the world I travel, I start singing the song and everybody finishes it. For sure.

Now, is it the reason that nobody wanted to play it because it was by a comic book character? Is that the angle people didn't love? I think that was part of it. I think the other part of it was that it was the year of Woodstock and the year of a new generation of singer-songwriters coming up. And it was kind of the last wave of the pop music industry in so far as what the Brill Building was about. And the Brill Building is really Tin Pan Alley, where people wrote songs for other people. And that building just housed and helped create

incredible, incredible songs. Like you mentioned Carole Kane, but is it James Taylor as well? He came out of the Brill Building? I don't think James Taylor came out. I just think... I think that's in my head somewhere. Maybe him and Carol. You may be right. You may be right. But I think that when James Taylor wrote,

he was kind of writing for himself. I think the Brill Building was artists that did write for themselves, but basically in its crudest form, it was kind of like a factory of just phenomenal songwriters that, well, I'll put it to you this way. To me, the most iconic was Lieberstahler, Hound Dog by Elvis Presley, Jailhouse Rock. I mean, that's the beginning of rock and roll. Well, Chuck Berry too, but he wasn't in the Brill Building.

Right, right. And now Rock Golf is a listener of Toronto Mic'd and he has a very interesting memory of Sugar Sugar he says it was imprinted as a cheap plastic single on millions of boxes of post cereal

in 1969 so he has a humorous question which is can you still eat the Sugar Crisp if you kept it from 1969 is it still edible so do you advise I don, can he still eat the sugar crisp if he kept it from 1969? Is it still edible? So do you advise? I don't think he should eat the sugar crisp. I think that you should go to you know, St. Mike's

or another hospital in Toronto and find out if it's microscopically correct. Did you keep, do you have any of these boxes by any chance? I will tell you a story if if you if i have a moment no of course um i never kept gold records or any memorabilia at all

and so whenever i i i received the gold record i would send them to mont to, and my mom and dad would put them up in their living room. And so both of them are gone. And recently people have asked me about, you know, where's my gold records? And so I reached out to my brothers and I said, hey, do you remember where those gold records are? I mean, there was like, you know, dozen of them here and there from all countries.

They're not to be found. Wow. So I didn't collect anything. I never thought that the collection would mean anything because I don't hold on to that stuff. I'm just so happy to have been able to write songs and to travel in a world that is of my own design, and I don't think that those would symbolize anything to me at this moment.

Well, then let's answer Rock Golf's last question, which is did you get any extra money for a song you co-wrote being on you know millions of boxes of cereal i got extra money it was a time when you know you were lucky i was lucky that um i had the right people around me and so i made every penny that was out there now here's a of course we just played the archies sugar sugar by the way uh i forget who's the name of the primary singer on that uh sugar sugar uh ron dante he did a great job i gotta tell you his vocal was just perfect i mean everything just kind of worked yeah you know it's

like we're still singing it today so it's incredible i mean there's a tina turner version we talked about it before, and Bob Marley and Wilson Pickett. Okay, let me play the Wilson Pickett a bit because I want to just talk about that one. Okay. Sugar Honey, honey, honey, you are my candy girl.

You got me wanting you. Oh, honey. I'm feeling it, Andy. I'm telling you, this was a hit too. It was a million seller. And R&B charts went to number four, I think, in the Billboard R&B charts. And I got a gold record for that, but I don't know where that is. We should do like a documentary series,

like searching for Andy's gold records or something like that. I would do that. Okay, let me bring down some Wilson Pickett and give you a couple more gifts here. There's a six-pack of Fresh Craft beer. Do I get to take that home? Of course. Of course, that's yours, Andy.

I've got to rent a truck to get all this stuff. Well, there's more than usual today, but I'm going to save this one until the end. Okay. But six-pack of Fresh Craft beer is courtesy of Great Lakes brewery again they've stepped up they're going to make sure all attendees at tmlx5 are taken care of even though it's the first toronto mic listener experience not hosted by great lakes brewery it's at palmas kitchen but

we're all in this same glorious family and i i love the uh the synergies the synergy so thank you great lakes they have a the day after tmlx 5 is the big Christmas market at Great Lakes Brewery. So maybe do TMLX 5 on the Saturday, the 7th of December. And then on the 8th, get your butt to Great Lakes. They had a big turnout last year, and it was a lot of fun. There's stickers here for you, Andy. I mentioned there's going to be a sticker to stop you. Next time you visit, you won't even have to worry about hitting your head

because of the warning sticker that I'm going to pick up. But this is the one that you're going to love there. I can't wait to find out where it ends up. But the Toronto Mike sticker, courtesy of StickerU.com. You upload any image. You could upload, I don't know, the cover of Rock Me Gently or something. You upload it and then you could get as many stickers as you like online at StickerU.com. You might even get like a decal, like I have on the back wall here,

or a temporary tattoo, whatever. They have a million things you can do, and it's always high-quality, affordable stuff. So, thank you, StickerU. By the way, I mean, I like the Archies, but Archies are a comic book. They're from Riverdale, you know,

fictional characters, but I'm feeling this. It's a're from Riverdale, you know, fictional characters. But I'm feeling this. This is a great song. It's pretty cool, isn't it? Yeah. Well, you know, it's kind of magical to think that he would have done it. You know, I mean, it's like mind-boggling. And Bob Marley covered it too, eh? Bob Marley and Ike and Tina Turner.

Wow. Obviously Tom Jones and Gladys Knight. and Ike and Tina Turner and obviously Tom Jones and Gladys Knight and just, it's really, really, oh man, you just open up

your life to experiences and I don't understand how I got here but I'm so thrilled to be here to be honest with you. Well, I'm glad you're here. Like, the literal sense

and the greater metaphysical sense. Absolutely. Now, you know what I think is punk, Andy? A lot of people don't think of you as a punker. I think of you as punk. You want to know why I think of you as punk? The germs. No.

I think of you as punk because you write a song, and I'm taking this to 1974 now, okay? You write a song. You know it kicks. Can I swear with you? Is that okay? Oh, all the time. It kicks ass, this song.

You know it's a hit, but what you do is you end up recording it yourself. You produce it yourself. You even pay for the sessions, and you form your own label. What is it? Ice Records? Just to get this out there,

and that song becomes this. I think Andy Kim is punk on the record there. Ain't it good, ain't it right That you are with me here tonight Music playing, our bodies swaying in time Touching you, so warm and tender Lord, I feel such a sweet surrender beautiful is the dream that makes you mine rock me gently rock me slowly take it easy don't you know that i have never been in love like this before?

Baby, baby, rock me gently, rock me slowly. Take it easy. Don't you know that I have never been in love like this before? And you're so cocky about it, you don't even have a B-side to this single, right? This is an instrumental, right? I took that from what Motown used to do. I remember 45, I think the Isley Brothers. It was just kind of the musical version of the A-side.

This was the B-side. I think you have to dream a dream and just believe in it so much that no matter what anyone tells you and you don't see the stop signs, you just keep going. But I'm surprised you had to do all that yourself. You even, yeah, I mean,

paying for the session and everything. You do it all. You roll your own on this to get this creative. This hit you know is a hit. But you're only five years removed from Sugar Sugar. That's not that far removed from a number one hit. Excuse me. You're all choked up about it.

Just remembering. If you go back to our conversation regarding the Brill Building, there was this interesting note that I always remembered. And here's what they said. You're only as good as your last two minutes and 30 seconds. So. Right. That's what that was. That's an eternity five years.

It was. It kind of killed me. And that bubblegum 60s thing had passed, right? And this is not that. Well, you know what? We should talk about the word bubblegum and that I have a problem with that word. And I was doing a VH1 interview sometime in the 80s, and they referenced Sugar Sugar sugar and they called it

bubble gum and i said well what exactly do you mean by bubble gum they said well disposable and i said well then then she loves you yeah yeah yeah and i want to hold your hand by the beatles is kind of in that category isn't it and and the host just kind of stared at me like what am i doing and he said well you know but they had rubber soul i said but that's not the point the point is you know we love elvis but he had teddy bear and all shook up was that disposable and i think that that it's, I have an aversion to calling Sugar Sugar bubblegum. If it's 50 years later and it's not stale, it can't be bubblegum. It's just a song that makes you feel good,

makes you happy, takes you away from whatever you were were feeling it just wants you to get up and dance and rejoice the fact that as a human being you're having two minutes and 30 seconds of joy that's the way i look at it i noticed there's no sugar sugar in your coffee that's right. I've always had this, you know, black. I do that too. I've been doing it now for only about five years. I was late to the black coffee party, but now I'm there for life, so I'm there too. You know what? It's tasting the real thing, and that's really how you have to know that, that what you're having is primo.

Right. Right. Now, uh, I gotta, I want to ask you about the Andy Kim Christmas party and some more things here before we kick out the jams. But there's,

um, a couple of, like I call these Toronto mic inside things. So these might not mean as much to you, Andy, but there are people listening to listen to almost every episode and this will mean something. So I need to know,

I need to ask on behalf of the listeners. Have you ever met Gino Vannelli? By accident. Because you're both Montreal guys, and you both had number one hits on the Billboard charts. Well, you know, people think that you know everybody. You know, just because you had a record out that you know everybody. But at Gino parties and stuff,

we figure you're all getting together. Have you had Juno here? Yes. And did you ask him that question? No, I did not. But on his second visit, I'm going to ask him

if he has met Andy Kim. But the only reason I think about it is because I think of you, well, you've both been here, so you're top of mind, but you're both Montreal artists and you both had success in the USA. So I, you know, you've both been here, so you're top of mind. But you're both Montreal artists, and you both had success in the USA.

So I think that's an exclusive club. You know, especially at that time, you know, I think that... Who else is from Montreal? April Wine. Did they have success? No, no, not in the States. Okay. from wine. Did they have success?

No, no, not in the States. Okay. So, um, yes, you know,

I'm, I'm always, uh, excited to meet someone whose songs are incredible and they have success and stuff, but, but it was just by accident. Right. Okay.

Uh, cause you, you, you, you probably, uh, just, just bumped into him and,

and yeah, I just wondered. So that's one thought. Now, uh, second thing, just for the Toronto Mike listeners, since we can kind of chalk, yes. Can I ask you a question?

Yeah, of course. Anything. Are there no listeners after this when you say for the Toronto Mike listeners? I don't understand that. Okay, what that means is some people are cherry picking this episode because they're Andy Kim fans.

How do you cherry pick a show? Because're Andy Kim fans. Okay. So there's going to be. How do you cherry pick a show? Because it's very easy. It's very easy. You, for example, you're on Apple podcasts, right? Everyone's got an iPhone. I don't actually have an Android. But if you have an iPhone, you're Apple guys.

And they'll be named. Like it'll be like, this one's Bruce Arthur. This one's Gord Stelic. You know, this one's Gino Vanelli. And this one is Andy Kim. And somebody is going to be like, I want to hear Andy Kim. And they're going to pick that one. They're going to listen for Andy Kim.

But there is a segment of the listenership that actually enjoys everyone I have on because of how we have a casual, real talk conversation. So those are the people I'm addressing with the Gino question because Gino was a memorable recent episode. But also here's where I'm going. So stick with me stick with me andy so the resurgence of andy kim the comeback if you will was a great deal of credit goes to ed robertson of the bernie ladies totally 100 i would argue it's only possible because of the great molly johnson so here's where i'm going absolutely all right we're back where we started

from a year ago is that did i mention this last year i can't see i i should uh yes it's okay okay yeah so in case somebody doesn't remember last year so we molly johnson uh we should give her a great deal of credit for uh the rebirth of andy kim some way, in some strange way. Okay, so here's the thing. Can I have this a little louder? Because I'm kind of missing a little bit. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is that possible?

Yeah, definitely. Here I do. Tell me if you're getting louder. Well, I seem to be a little muffled. Am I? No, you sound great. There's a compressor here. Did we have it last year?

No. So now I'm compressing on the way in before I compressed in post. Okay. So your job's easier now is what you're saying. Okay, I get it. Okay, so I got a call from Molly Johnson. I'm in LA.

And she said, you know, I'm doing this kumbaya and she talks to me about it. And she says, you know, there's this band that is so creative and they're so great that they would love to back you up on Rock Me Gently. And I said, what's the name of the band? She said, The Barenaked Ladies. And I thought to myself, I don't think I want to do this.

Because of the name. Well, just... It's a goofy name know because of the name well just just a goofy name because well it's not a goofy name it's just it's different you know and um so i um but you know talking to molly is saying yes you know so i said yes and so i i fly to uh toronto and and uh and then realize as i got together with ed and and steve to go over the song that wow i they we did it one time and i asked them to do it another only because it sounded so great. Because they sounded great. They had all the nuances, but there was a chemistry between them that I really, really loved. So, yes, thank you, Molly.

So, thank you, Molly. And maybe I'll try to orchestrate a collaboration between Andy Kim and Gino Vanelli. Let me take that as my homework assignment. Andy Kim Christmas parties are kind of legendary. Like, can you tell us, is the, what are we, early November still? We're getting another Andy Kim Christmas party? This is my 15th year.

This is my anniversary, 15th anniversary. Happy anniversary. Thank you. It's just, it's almost surreal because the truth is um it's all it's always been a one-off you're familiar with the thought the one-off it was just one time and that's it and um and doing the first one was really nerve-wracking because i had no idea what i was doing and i was um the first person i called was ron sexsmith and and it just kind of grew from there

just by osmosis so i was done i did the first one i lost my voice i went to do canada am at that time to sing and and i started i had lost it so ron was kind enough to go and because he came with me nice and and sing he didn't sing my song but he sang a a song um on his own and but i had lost my voice because first of all i had no experience in putting a show together it was all up to me to call the artists it was up to me to do everything there's a lot of a lot of i put the other little events and there's a lot of work i can't imagine your big event that's a lot of stuff um balls in the air it's it's part of what i do because i say oh i'm going to do this and then it's so i was we sold out it was done all proceeds from ticket sales go to charity and oh god i'll never do this again and then i i went on a a a cruise with um with um paul revere narrators bill medley of the righteous brothers and the

last members of the four tops so it was like a great 10 days i get off um in miami coming coming back to toronto and uh get a phone call and it's like hey um you're doing a show again this year aren't you i said well i you know i really don't know this is september and i said oh we we would love to promote your show. It was a radio station, Wayne Webster, Mix 999. And they were the first station to play, I forgot to mention, and I had just a close thank you with them. So I said, okay. So we do the show, we sell out, make money, and move on. One-off.

Here I am 15 years later, it's still a one-off. I'm still, you do it once a year, you know that you're rusty. You know that you can't call people all the time with, you know, hey, could you come and do it for free? Because I tell all artists, it's not a career move. So here we are. can you tell us a little detail uh about this so what day for example uh what day is it scheduled for okay so this year it's um wednesday december 4th it's at the queen elizabeth theater and um and we went on sale about a week ago, I think.

And, um, we're just about sold out. Wow. And so that's the exciting part for me. It's just that there's a few tickets left and we've been doing it long enough that people are expecting a great show. I have to tell you, Mike, as I sit here three weeks, a month out, I have nobody except Ron Sexsmith. I can make some calls for you. You can?

I know bands. Oh, yeah? Okay. Thank you. I'll reach out to Moe Berg. We can talk to Ron Hawkins from Lois of the Low. I know the guys in Watchmen, Danny Graves. I spoke to Moe.

I had done a show with Mo last year. And he thought it was a great idea. And then he calls and said, can't do it this year. A little conflict probably in the schedule. Yeah. But that would have been the pursuit of real happiness. Right.

It didn't happen this year. But Mo, if you're listening, or there are mic listeners out there that will reach out to Mo. I was going to say, I know Tyler Stewart is listening. He's a big listener, so maybe we do that.

Let the good karma spill out there. Thank you. I'll hook you up with Andy if you're a band willing to play for a good cause. Do you want to remind us what charities benefit from this great show? Yes. This year it's Gifts of Light, which is a program at CAMH.

And the great thing about it is that now, I think for the first time in probably as long as CAMH has been there, Gifts of Light showed up maybe four or five years ago. And patients that come in with just bathrobes or just clothing that's been on their back for a long time, you can now get a brand new set of sneakers and jeans and outerwear that, at least for me, when I buy something, I just feel better.

It's kind of crazy, but it's what I love about Gifts of Light, that it's kind of a building block to helping you feel somewhat, I'm going to be okay, you know. Amazing. Now I'm thinking in my head, who else am I going to reach out to? I'm going to reach out to Biff Naked. I'm going to reach out to Tom Wilson. Biff Naked did my show last year and she was kind enough to it extended you know i had

broken social scene and then billy talent said yes wow and then alex leifson and then kim mitchell and then tom cochran wow and it just started to just... So Biff Naked just did one song as opposed to the mandatory two. And I promised that she'd come back this year. So she was the first call I made. Okay. Yeah.

So we're on the same page. Get the excellence off the top. Cream always rises. Okay. Fantastic. So people, there's still a few tickets available. All right. We're almost, we're going to kick out the jams now. I's still a few tickets available. All right, we're almost,

we're going to kick out the jams now. I do have a message for you. Do you know the name Brian Master? Brian Master is a, well, he was at Chem FM for a long time, CHFI for a long time. He's now at The Jewel. Brian Master, he's also a salesperson

with Keller Williams Realty Solutions Brokerage. So before I read my message to you from Brian, let me just tell everybody that you should email Brian Master at letsgetyouhomeatkw.com because Brian will add you to his snail mail newsletter that he sends out once a month with great, you know, valuable information. It's not a, there's no sales pitch in there.

It's basically as a homeowner and somebody living in the city, tips you can use, if you will. So write Brian at letsgetyouhome at kw.com. Brian says, please tell Andy, Kim, we'll be doing an interview next week. And I guess that's Jewel. I guess you're doing something with Jewel.

It's a station here in Toronto. And he says, you're one of the greatest talents that Canada has ever produced. Brian Master, high praise. Wow, that's very kind. I'm not the greatest talents that Canada has ever produced. Brian Master, high praise. Wow, that's very kind. I'm not the greatest at anything. I'm just one, so tell me I'm the greatest something Canada has ever produced.

Regarding, well, first of all, I have to tell you something. There aren't too many people that make you feel less comfortable because you've been doing this a long time, so it doesn't matter who's sitting here because it's easy. You know, you have to do your homework.

You have to do your thing. the only objection I have to being here is that, that, you know, Toronto mic'd, that microphone is not here. That's true. That's true. I think that

microphone was retired in maybe the 1940s or something. Yeah, it was. My wife designed that logo. I'm going to pass on your... Yes, you know what? But I think you can't have a microphone today without using this portrait

of a microphone. These don't look as good. Well, they don't look as good. Well, they don't look as good. And these don't sound as good anymore. Right, right. Good observation there. Absolutely. All right. Rupesh Kapadia.

He's the rock star accountant who sees beyond the numbers. Andy, if you ever needed any help with any accountancy quandaries or any best practices, you needed help, I could give you a free consultation of Rupesh who knows his stuff.

So here's a very, very brief conversation I had with Rupesh about his newsletter. Rupesh, I noticed there's a very informative weekly email newsletter that you at Kapadia LLP CPA send out. How does somebody subscribe to this newsletter? To subscribe, it's very easy and it's free. Please go to our website www.capadialp.com. There is a box on the top left-hand corner. Type in your email, press subscribe. You will get a subscription confirmation email. Please confirm and there you go. And you can cancel it at any point in time you want.

So thank you, thank you, Rupesh. And there you go. And you can cancel it at any point in time you want. So thank you, Rupesh. This is an off-the-cuff question, but have you ever met Alex Trebek? See, I think all Canadians know each other. Yeah, I met Alex Trebek sometime in the 70s. He had some TV show here. What, the CBC?

Is that what it is? I think he had a show on CBC. I just remember Alex Trebek and when I first saw him on Jeopardy, I said, he's on Jeopardy? Really? And then you realize that not everything you think

about a person you immediately pick up. I think he's just incredibly talented and just was kind of working his way towards the best that he can be. And I pray for his safety every day when I get a chance to see the fact that he's up,

he's down, he's up, but I'm hoping that he's up, he's down, he's up, but I'm, I'm hoping that he's going to be okay. And like yourself, he's, I've been thinking a lot about Alex too. And I read, I guess he did an interview of maybe with CTV recently. And he talked about his, his being at peace with death. Like Alex Trebek is basically totally at peace with the fact that, you know, death is as much a part of life as birth.

Like it's such a natural happen. It happens to everybody. It'll happen to me. It'll happen to you. And just kind of reassuring, I think, to think of death as something, as a natural happening instead of something to fear, something to be afraid of. Well, I can understand the fear, and I can understand the anxiety,

and I can understand the pain that goes into thinking about, well, how will my family take care of themselves and all of that kind of stuff. But the one thing that I picked up from Alex without really, really knowing him when I first met him was that he was kind of at peace then. There was this thing about him that I don't know how to explain, but he was kind of okay being Alex Trebek, you know? I mean, that's the cool thing about him. You know, I mean, that's the cool thing about him.

And when you're on television every night of every day of every week of every year for a thousand years, you kind of, you're living a, you're living a, you know, not so much a groundhog day, but you're kind of living a wonderful special life. If someone listening is not going to the Andy Kim Christmas party there, the Andy Kim Christmas special on December 4th, then if you're not going to that, perhaps you should come to Holidays and Hope Candlelight Service. This is at the Assembly Hall.

It's brought to you by Brad and the good people at Ridley Funeral Home. Again, it's Wednesday, December 4th at 7 p.m. It's their annual free memorial service in honor of those loved ones who have passed away and cannot be with us this holiday season. So if you want more information about this event, please visit RidleyFuneralHome.com or call Brad or anyone at RidleyFuneralHome.com or call Brad or anyone at

Ridley Funeral Home at 416-259-3705. I think I gave the wrong date to Bruce Arthur on my last episode. I think I confused this date with the TMLX5 date, but the Holidays and Hope Candlelight Service at the Assembly Hall is definitely December 4th

at 7 PM. Andy, are you ready to kick out the jams? No, you've thrown me off. I don't know what to do now. I'm kicking them out anyways, kicking them out.

Oh my God. I love this. Now they're your jams, so I'll play them, and then when I sense you're going to say something, I'll bring it down so we can hear you. Come closer. And if she tempts you with a chance, tell her no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And if she tempts you with a chance Don't love and love from your arms

Don't hurt me now for love belongs to me Tell her no to zombies. Tell us why you love this song. Oh, my God. I have no, no effing idea. I just, I'm mesmerized by the zombies. I remember as a kid playing that over and over and over again. There's a part that's coming up.

Are you playing the whole song? Yep. There's a little, you know, it's almost a slap, and I'll tell you a of all the songs he's written, I was having a conversation with Randy Bachman last week, and I was telling him that of all the songs he's written, I don't care how many songs he's written. Nothing comes close to She's Come Undone for me, you know?

And he said it was kind of as zombies. He was inspired by the zombies, to the snap right right and um and just to go back i mean when you think about the songs that came out in that era um you know for me just just not knowing really who i was what I was and what I wanted. It was just incredible to just kind of hear that song and just know that you live in that world. Wow. Let's kick out another jam. What do you see? The sun is rising

Most definitely A new day is coming People are changing Ain't it beautiful Crystal blue persuasion Better get ready Gonna see the light Love, love is the answer And that's alright

So don't you give up now So easy to find Just look to yourself Look to yourself Open your mind crystal blue persuasion crystal blue persuasion Tommy James and the Shondells. It's just brilliant.

Just listening. You know, I've done a couple of shows with Tommy, and every time I hear that, you know, I kind of tell him, you've got to do it two, three times in a row because you can't just do it and then leave it, you know? It's infectious. because you can't just do it and leave it, you know?

It's infectious. For sure. Tommy's a good guy? Tommy's a great guy. He's a great guy. He was one of those artists that made great music, but with a record company where it was, he had to fight for everything, you know. But he was allowed to make his own records

and I'm just happy for me that I'm able to have worked with him and also to listen to him, you know. But really cool guy. Good to him. But really cool guy. Good to hear. Good to hear. ¶¶ Where did your long hair go? Where is the girl I used to know? How could Who took that look away? I remember how you used to say you'd never change, but that's not true Oh, Caroline, you break my heart I only wanna go and cry

It's so sad to watch a sweet thing die Oh, Caroline Oh, Carolina Could I ever find you again? Carolina, the Beach Boys. Brian Wilson. So incredible. And this is from Pet Sounds, right? Yeah.

I was lucky enough to be there when they were rehearsing their tour, the Pet Sounds tour. And to get a phone call out of the clear blue from a tour bus

traveling through Pennsylvania for Brian to call and to say he just heard Baby I Love You and he just loved what we did on that song you know and all the guitar because I played all the guitars on that song and that was just incredible. But just to be around Brian and the band that he had and Jeffrey Foskett was just pretty remarkable. I had to pinch me, if I can use Ed's term. You can, but you have to pay him, I think, a royalty. Oh, it's okay.

Now, back in the 60s, okay, so you co-write your first number one hit there. It comes out in 69, it goes number one. But the influence, like I always read about Pet Sounds, you know, influencing the Beatles and everything. What was it like when, how did Pet Sounds change? What was it, like a bomb going off in uh you know music landscape i i i am not one of those artists that is able to dissect stuff i don't come from there i'm i'm not a school

musician i just everything with me is instinct right um so um i don't i don't see i i can understand the divide i can understand this she loves you yeah yeah yeah and and um i want to hold your hand beatles and and and the rubber soul beatles etc etc right but it's all music you either like it or you don't like it and i don't spend the time to say oh i love that modulation and when you went to this minor chord my god right i think all of that was done with the great composers of mozart and beethoven and right so yeah and and and all i know is that i I get emotionally attached to the moment that was created. And excuse me, I'm losing my voice here. I think it's the coffee. My fault.

I get attached to the emotion that I hear from that kind of music. It's just, it makes me so happy to be alive. It makes me so happy to feel that I'm around and I know some of these people, but not everybody. And you don't have to know people. You just have to experience what they have to tell you. You know. Thank you. I thought you were the sweetest cat Did you even know? I held your hand into the night The scars were on the bed

And all the time we were right Was it just retread? And they can try to put you down ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ Did we even know All the time we get by Trying to figure out our lives That's hauntingly beautiful. This is Broken Social Scene

and Sweetest Kill. All the time we get by I'm digging it. It's great, isn't it? Like a fad I'm digging it it's great isn't it so of all the broken social scene songs why this one oh there's a magic to it I

I met Kevin and Brendan they came to my Christmas I met Kevin and Brendan. They came to my Christmas show one year. And they said they had such a great time that they were going to bring the band next year. It's a large band, right?

I didn't pay any attention to that line, to be honest with you. I just figured it was going to be a you know, hey, let's do lunch right you know um so uh come october is when i call artists november last minute you know sure and so i i reached out to uh kevin and brendan and i got this thing from kevin said, we told you we're going to bring the band and that's all I needed to know about them, you know.

And not only did they show up, but they played this song for the first time before it came out. And it's always been something that I'm mesmerized by because I heard it live. And hearing something live is just completely different from making a record. Sure.

And, you know, I've been very fortunate to get to know Kevin and Brendan and know that Kevin is probably one of the few artists that I know that feels everything and is totally upfront and honest. And if he says something, it's a law. So when the whole band shows up, it like what 15 people like well which which iteration here what are we talking about i think there was like nine people but it felt like and it was at the mod club right yes uh has a limited amount of excuse me stage but um you know what magic happens and when magic happens

you just there's room for magic sure all the time and and I don't tell artists what to play you know

or what to show up as I will get you what you need to do to be the best that you can for those two songs on stage

and wow that is such a great song. Beautiful song. Now I'm thinking we got to contact Andy Mays too and see if the Sky Diggers can do the Andy Kim Christmas. Oh, that would be, if the whole band can make it, I will, I'll be a sponsor on your show. Okay, well, then we have a deal here.

We have a deal here. All right, here's another great, then we have a deal here. We have a deal here. All right, here's another great jam from Andy Kim's collection here. Oh, the little things you say and do Make me want to be with you Rave on, it's a crazy feeling And I know it's got me reeling When you say I love you, Ray Vaughn

The way you dance and hold me tight The way you kiss and say goodnight Ray Vaughn, it's a crazy feelin' And I know it's got me reelin' when you say I love you. Rave on. Oh, well, rave on. It's a crazy feeling and I know it's got me reeling. I'm so glad that you're revealing your love for me. Rave on. Rave on and tell me, tell me Not to be lonely, tell me You love me only

Rave on Buddy Holly, Rave On. Oh my God. My brothers used to play this song, my two older brothers, and that's when I first got introduced to Buddy Holly. But that was the one song they continued to play until vinyl wore out

and it's just and when you hear how his vocal is really up front you know he's not hiding anything he's just this is who you have is Buddy Holly and I think those records of the day you had to you had to have the the ability to create a certain magic with just your voice you know i think we're looking at like a two minute single too this is back in the day with the uh yeah if it look you think it's it's uh easy to write a-minute song or a two-minute and 30-second song? It's just, it's what it is. And now you're writing 10-minute songs and ramble and ramble,

but you can say it all in two minutes. guitar solo My sweet Lord My Lord My Lord I really want to see you Really want to be with you Really want to see you. Really want to be with you. Really want to see you, Lord, but it takes so long, my Lord. My sweet Lord. My Lord.

My Lord. I really want to know you I really want to go with you I really want to show you love But it won't take long Hallelujah My sweet Lord Hallelujah My Lord My sweet Lord

I really want to see you Really want to see you Really want to see you Lord Really want to see you Lord George Harrison, My Sweet Lord. Why do you love this song? You know, I love it for two reasons. Number one, I was devastated the way everyone else was when the Beatles broke up but then you find you find the the the glory of them breaking up because then you can actually hear what they all could do as equals and um and

listening to this first of all it's just so spiritual. But it's the combination of George Harrison's belief system and a combination of him working with Spectre. And just from a pure lyrical thought and knowing how he was maybe only allowed to have one song on a Beatle album every now and then.

And when you hear those songs in a totality of who George Harrison is it's absolutely awesome. It really, really is. And when I think about it, it's probably one of my favorite songs that he recorded.

Although, you know, there's so many. This one here has a... I was, you know... It's a gorgeous song. It's a beautiful song. Do you think it's too close to He's So Fine? What are your thoughts on that one? When it started, I just, no.

For me, it never came to mind. And then someone says, well, you know, you should listen to both. I didn't go there. I just wanted this to be in its own moment in time. Do you? Definitely hear it. Yeah, for sure. I hear it.

I don't believe it was intentional or malicious or anything, but they definitely have the same, my sweet Lord, he's so... There's a similarity there that it's hard to ignore. But I'm with you, yeah. I mean, it's George Harrison, for goodness sakes. Here comes the sun, and while my guitar gently... This is a master at his craft, and this is fantastic.

You know, all these artists really, when you're listening to them, it's really who and what they are and what they believe in. It wasn't just, you know, let's get a record out and try and get a hit, you know. Now this next jam's a little different. So I took a live version. Someone else actually had kicked it out in the past. I had it already kind of queued up. I hope you're okay with the version I took,

but let's listen to it and then talk about it. Nessun dorma, nessun dorma. Tu pure, o principessa, nella tua fredda stanza Guardi le stelle che tremano d'amore e di speranza. Qual mio mistero è chiuso in me? Il nome mio nessuno saprà. La dirò, guardò la luce splenderà. ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ I'm almost nervous to find out. Did I pick an okay version or even the right song? I get lost in this world. It's beautiful. No, it is beautiful. Well, here, let's be quiet and let him do his work. Alte stelle, tramontate stelle, all'alba vincerò, vincerò il cielo. My goodness.

Wow. Luciano Pavarotti. That is, okay, the proper name. I'm not very cultured, Andy, so forgive me. Tirado, it's Act III, Nessun Dora from Puccini's. Puccini's, yeah. Right. Okay, but that's crazy good, man.

Can you kick it like that? Can sing like that oh no you know i i was lucky enough to see him in a very private function of maybe 200 people in uh in the 80s and um it is it is it's so magical to have a voice that expresses itself that way and gets to the heart of every beat that is beating inside of you. And I always choke up about it. I'm just happy that he was around to fill our lives with his beautiful voice. It's just magical, and thank you for playing it. And I really love, I love the fact that it's a live version,

and you can really hear his voice. And you can hear the crowd react. It's like, wow. Yeah, it's incredible. And I don't care if you're into country music or rock and roll, or if you like the punk or you like the electronica. That's a jam right there.

Totally. Totally. 100%. Wow. You were the girl that changed my world You were the girl for me You lit the fuse, I stand the fuse You were the first for me But you turned me on You took the fuse, I stand the fuse You were the first for me, but you turned me on You dropped the bomb on me, baby

You dropped the bomb on me, but you turned me on You dropped the bomb on me, baby You dropped the bomb on me You were my thrill, you were my prince You dropped the bomb on me You turned me out, you turned me on You turned me loose, and you turned me wrong You dropped the bomb on me, baby

You dropped the bomb on me But you turned me on, baby You dropped the bomb on me. The Gap Band. Oh, man. When you hear them here, it's one thing, but to see them live is just mind-boggling. And I've always been just... You know, I love going to shows,

and every now and then you kind of hear the magic, and then you want to go play the record just to hear the other magic. But this live is, it's just brilliant. How difficult is it to capture the energy of a live performance in a studio setting? It's hard. It really, really is hard, especially if you're a band. I mean, as a vocalist, you know, I've got just me.

And then you have people to play along with what you play. Or in my case, eventually there were guitar players that were a thousand times better than I was. So I would play what I'm playing and then have them, you know, make magic out of that. But when you hear a band live and that band comes into the studio, it really takes a very special kind of engineer and producer to kind of capture the essence of what they are. But you're right, there's nothing like seeing uh an artist live there's nothing like it you know you know you can't you never quite duplicate that with your headphones on you gotta see it live absolutely because all of this is you know put together and and eq'd and make to sound good like, you know. Right. Like Toronto Mike'd.

Right. Right. There's some guy like me. The board is bigger. I've been to those studios. The board is a lot bigger than mine. Oh, my God. And sometimes you get the, yeah, they're like,

I don't know how many feet they go, 50 feet or something, these big monster boards. But the important thing, no matter what the board is, what's the song? That's the key thing to everything. What is the song? Right. So what you're saying is size does not matter. Is that what you're telling me?

That's not what I'm saying. You turn me up, then you turn me on You drop the bomb on me You turn me up, then you turn me on You drop the bomb on me You turn me up, then you turn me on You drop the bomb on me I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, You dropped a bomb on me. You dropped a bomb on me. Yes, sir Oh, yeah Mother, mother There's too many of you to cry Brother, brother, brother There's too many of you crying

Brother, brother, brother There's far too many of you dying You know we've got to find a way To bring some loving today Yeah Father, father We don't need to escalate You see War is not the answer For only love can conquer hate

You know we've got to find a way To bring some love and give today Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality

Talk to me so you can see Oh, what's going on? What's going on? Yeah, what's going on? Oh, what's going on? What's going on? Marvin Gaye, What's Going On?

That's a theme forever, you know? I feel the groove, man. I'm digging this. By the way, we're on jam number nine. Let me just say right now how thoroughly I'm enjoying myself kicking out the jams with you, Andy. Well, these songs are probably before your time, but nonetheless, music is music, these songs will probably be before your time, but nonetheless,

music is music, you know, timeless. Except for Broken Social Scene and the song we're going to play last. You're absolutely correct. But I dig the history of music, man. I'll go back. I'm not one of those cats who lives in the current day only. I like to go back and hear what came before. This is

great stuff. Thank you. Did you ever meet Marvin Gaye? No. And the saddest thing, I still, whenever I hear a Marvin Gaye song and record, I know that deep down inside I was crushed. Driving on a 405 and there's a bulletin coming on that tells me that Marvin Gaye is no longer with us.

I still remember that moment. But what a great artist. He had a problem putting this out and they waited for Barry Gordy to go on vacation and put it out without him knowing, because he didn't want to put it out. I didn't know that. Yeah, because it was something different from what he was doing.

And this opened up a new era, and you can hear the sincerity inside of him and i like the chatter on this song like i don't know whose idea it was to kind of hear the some background conversation kind of in the mix kind of a neat little effect i i think i think I think it's a song that was lived. And the street noise is part of, hey, what's going on? The conversations we all have, trying to make some sense of it all. And before we say goodbye, here's some goodbyes. My girl spites me in vain, all I do is complain She need something to change, need to take off the ass So fuck it all tonight

And don't tell me to shut up When you know you talk too much But you don't got shit to say I want you out of my head I want you out of my head I want you out of my bedroom tonight There's no way I can save you Cause I need to be saved too I'm no good at goodbyes

We're both acting insane But you're stubborn to change Now I'm drinking again Hating proof in my veins And my fingers sustained Looking over the ass Don't fuck with me tonight Say you needed this heart and you got it

Turns out that it wasn't what you wanted And we wouldn't let go and we lost it Now I'm a goner I want you out of my head I want you out of my bedroom tonight. There's no way I can save you. Cause I need to be said to. I'm no good at goodbyes.

I want you out of my life. I want you back here tonight. I'm trying to cut you no knife. I want to slice you and dice you. My argument possessive. It got you precise. Can you not turn off the TV? I'm watching it fight. I'm't think anybody would have guessed you would be kicking out a Post Malone song. I think if you listen to all these songs,

it's kind of a tapestry for me. And I think Post Malone is the deal. And I believe him. I don't know him, but I'm getting to know his music. And I just think that he's part of that tapestry for me. I always tell my kids, feel free to get a tattoo when you're an adult, but avoid the face tattoos. That's my pro tip for my kids. I'm not sure Post Malone, it's a good thing he's got the musician career. I don't think the face tattoo is a wise move, but maybe I'm being old-fashioned. I don't know.

No, you know what? I heard a great Hall of fame basketball player many years ago talking about tattoos and he said you know here I am I'm like 60 years old

and those tattoos don't look that great on saggy skin you know and so because you never think you're going to get old when you get those tattoos

you're never you're never old you look in the mirror you think you still see the same person but uh but i know different no by the way you look great uh i know we had a little fun chatter last time you're here but you're you're real age there's great uh great mystery on the internet but i can tell the people you're 48 years old and you look fantastic thank you so much i've been working hard it. I mentioned there's a last gift here. Again, not a sponsor, but this is a story.

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I'm going to be at the door wondering where Andy is because it seems like we have a tradition going now. Well, you know what? When I was a kid, my mother, I used to tell her about my dreams

and my mother would say this same quote and I understood it but I didn't get it until later on and all I can say is God willing, I'll be here. And that brings us to the end of our 538th show. You can follow me on Twitter.

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See you all next week. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the snow's cold Warms me today And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine And it won't go away