Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Back to School: Toronto Mike'd #716
Episode Date: September 4, 2020This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out the best school jams with Stu Stone....
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I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me for this week's Pandemic Friday is Stu Stone.
Yes, guy.
That's Jim Taddy. Yes, guy. That's Jim Taddy.
Yes, guy.
Do you, I was going to say
like an Ernie without a Bert,
but I could do like a Jim Taddy
without a Mark Hebbs here.
Are you okay?
Because our normal co-host
is not here.
He's not here.
As some of you may not know,
Cam Gordon,
co-host of Pandemic Fridays,
he's made it to the quarterfinal round
of Big Brother Canada.
He's not been voted out of the house yet.
Yet.
Hopefully he'll be voted out to be back next week.
But I think he went on a laborious day,
weekend, romantic tryst in the woods,
in the wilderness with his loved one. I think.
Do you think he has Wi-Fi there?
He seems like the type of guy that would not have
Wi-Fi there. That sounds like an upgrade.
I'm wondering if he's watching on Periscope,
just shedding a single tear. No.
Wishing he was here. But I'll tell you, I did see
my good friend Colt Boom Boom Cabana
checked in. World famous
professional wrestler and podcast
icon checking in on the Periscope here.
So shout out to Colt.
Oh, that's amazing.
He's a big, big fucking deal.
He is.
That's awesome.
So anyway, Cam Gordon not here this week, but we will still be kicking out the jams in his honor.
And no sad news is keeping him away from the show this week.
But good news because he is definitely rolling around in the wilderness.
With Fitzy.
Two people, one sleeping bag.
I just came back from a camping trip.
Yeah, you did.
How was that?
That looked like glamping.
Tell me why that looks like.
Oh, because I took a large.
You had a Lincoln Navigator stretch limo.
First of all, glamping is when you're not in a tent.
You're in an actual...
I had no electricity.
I was sleeping in a tent.
I don't think that's glamping, but
I want to thank. I do. Thank you for bringing this up.
I want to thank the good people at Ford Canada.
Was that a freebie?
Yeah. How did that happen?
I've actually been lucky enough that I've been borrowing cars from the media fleet since
2008.
Wait, can you-
That's 12 years.
Media fleet?
What is this?
This is like some secret underworld of free stuff.
I feel like I've said too much, actually, as it is, but I test drive the cars and I
write about it at TorontoMike.com and I talk about it on Toronto Mike.
Do you ever give bad reviews?
I've never had a bad experience with those wonderful four in Canada.
But let's just say that it was a bad experience.
You have to be honest about your opinion.
They're not just bribing you with cars, right?
Well, I don't write a car review column for the Toronto Star here.
So I share.
If there was something terrible,
I would probably not talk about it, to be honest.
What was great about the Lincoln Navigator that you were driving?
Oh, roomy as all hell.
Yeah.
Because I had, there was me and three kids.
Okay.
And I have a lot of gear because I wanted, you know, the tents and the sleeping bags.
And I brought a stove and a barbecue.
Maybe it is clamping.
And a whole bunch, you know, food.
It was roomy.
It was roomy.
Lots of room.
Leather. Is that leathery. It was roomy. Lots of room. Leather.
Is that leather interior?
It's wonderful.
You're a fan of the luxury automobiles.
I'll let you check it out.
They have this massage feature.
Oh.
It's got a rub and tug type of deal?
Push a button and...
No, hang on.
No, it does a lot of wonderful things to my back,
and it was really comfy.
And, yeah, there's this, like, butt massage part, too,
I tried for a little bit.
Yeah, like a...
No, it's good.
It was roomy and smooth, and... And a butt lincoln aviator aviator right a glute massage my minimus and my maximus so you went camping and you had a tent and you had a tent did everybody
share the same tent yeah uh so that sounds like a nice tent sleeps four yeah it sleeps four so
the two little ones are small so one on each so I had an air mattress in the middle of the tent.
This is not camping.
The more you say it, the more...
I'm an old man.
I can't be on the ground.
It's hard, the ground.
So I had an air mattress.
And Michelle, my 16-year-old and I,
we would sleep on the air mattress.
And then Morgan and Jarvis,
one on each wing on the ground.
They have the cutest sleeping bags.
Jarvis got james's hot
wheels sleeping bag he had when he was a kid and there's a princess barbie uh bag that michelle
passed down to morgan and it was very cute we had a great time great sunsets uh great campfires and
yeah i brought a barbecue uh and i even had a cooler with ice in it so that my milk on the third day, the third day when you wake up, the milk was still really cold.
And yeah, it was a great time, man.
Stu, this is kind of a big moment.
And I'm going to ask you the big question.
And I hope you're allowed to tell us the answer.
But you have a big announcement.
Like the unnamed Stu Stone project that I i'm very excited about are you allowed to
give it a name uh not a name unfortunately yeah you said september that's what i thought i think
what happened who's calling the shots it's not me i'll tell you that uh but i will say that uh
there is news there is news okay what's the news the news is that we will be starting our social online push starting tomorrow.
Starting today, if you're listening to this on Pandemic Friday.
We have a Facebook page, the 5-7 Films Facebook page.
Wait, so did you ask?
Did you say, hey, I'm on a podcast Thursday evening.
Am I allowed to do that?
They were like, well, you do that podcast every week,
so you could just do it the next week.
And I'm like, well, I guess I could.
Did they really say that?
You're bullshitting. I'm lying, but, I guess I could. Did they really say that? You're bullshitting me.
I'm lying,
but hypothetically,
that's what they would have said
because I am on this show every week.
What does one day matter
if you give the name now
if they're going to do it for sure?
The title that's being used
sort of gives away
the whole fucking thing.
So maybe the title reveal
has to wait.
I don't...
There's sort of...
Then why not just keep it...
Keep the name
Unnamed Stewstone Project.
Just call it that.
Unnamed true crime story.
I will say this.
I'm watching.
Everybody's hanging up on the Periscope because they came up with the name.
Well, I'll tell you this.
I can tell you what it's about.
Okay.
So basically, you're familiar with Jack of All Trades,
a documentary investigative look into the world of baseball cards and fathers and sons.
And Mike Wilner, yep.
And Wilney.
And so this film is an investigative piece where myself and my partner, my real-life brother-in-law, Adam Rodness, are looking for a potential criminal.
So this is our delve into the true crime
world, but it is
with a twist.
So for those who think that
myself and my brother-in-law Adam
have no business
investigating a criminal,
a potential
criminal, then you are
right. We do have no business doing that
and it's on full display in this new film.
And is this going to be when it is on demand?
It will be available October the 14th.
It will be available on demand, yes,
but it will also be premiering on television in Canada.
Be more specific.
What television?
Hollywood Suite is the name
of the broadcaster.
They have a bunch of channels
on TV. I know if you're a cable
subscriber or you have Bell 5.
I have the
Crave, which has
an HBO.
It's like Crave, except it's called
Hollywood Suite. They have a 90s channel, an 80s
channel, a 70s channel, a Now channel.
So they have all great films on their channel.
I would say they're sort of like an HBO or first choice, the movie channel,
but like the 2020 version.
And this is their first original movie that I'm aware of.
There's a bee on the microphone.
Oh, I see it.
I heard the buzzing.
Okay, so I just had a guest earlier today.
I don't want to have a My Girl moment happen.
I want you to know. Thomas J. I know that. That's been a lot of fun. Okay, so I just had a guest earlier today. I don't want to have a My Girl moment happen. I want you to know.
Thomas J.
I know that.
That's a Macaulay Culkin thing.
I just want you to know that the wasps I have in the backyard right now,
as we record on September 3rd, are weak-ass, lethargic wasps.
Like, they're really slow and sloppy, and you can slap them around,
and they won't sting.
Like, these are not those aggressive wasps.
Yeah, but that was a bee.
Wasn't it a wasp?
No, that was a bee.
I know the difference between a bee and a wasp.
Oh, I did hear a buzz.
Do wasps buzz?
No, they purr.
So yeah, it's a true crime.
That was a bee.
It's a true crime clusterfuck of a true crime story.
Okay, so next week will you be able tell us the next week? I hope so.
I really sincerely hope. But by next week,
there'll be videos that are already out. There'll be
sort of some teasers and whatnot already
in the ethosphere. And if I
said it right now, would you, like, storm out of here
all mad? I wouldn't, but... Or would you just be disappointed?
I'd violate the code. Yeah, the bro code.
I wouldn't do that. Yeah. I wouldn't do that today.
Okay, shout out to King Kong Bundy, who
is at the heaviest... He's on to the Kong Bundy. Yes. Is that the heaviest?
Is Andre the Giant the heaviest?
What's the heaviest?
What are they called again?
I call them figurines, but you don't like that word.
They're action figures.
Action figures?
Yes.
What's the heaviest one in the WWF collection?
Well, King Kong Bundy's got to be up there.
What about Andre the Giant?
Andre's pretty heavy.
Captain Liu's shockingly heavy.
Oh, yeah.
You know, you could injure somebody.
Big John Studd, he's a big one.
Or not as big as Andre the Giant, though.
I would say it's between Captain Lou and King Kong Bundy
for heaviest LJN figure because they're sort of...
What about George the Animal Steel?
He's a big guy, too.
Listen, they all would hurt if they were thrown at you.
Not leaping Lanny Poff.
You know, you could go to a protest,
you could bring a can of soup,
or you could bring a King Kong Bundy figure,
as long as you say that it's from your home collection.
In lieu of the
big announcement
I just set you up for
that you let us down
because you can't do it.
I understand what it's like
when you work for the man
you can't call those shots.
I actually was doing
some digging into
Donnie Darko fandom.
Oh.
Because that's cult
like it's a cult movie
which means basically
that people who are into it are really into it.
I asked you at some point, could you do Comic-Cons and things?
I wish I could.
If someone out there can set that up, I'd be down to do it.
That's what you said, yeah.
But I will say, just getting back to the last movie for a second, the untitled Stu Stone movie.
Jake Gyllenhaal did it.
He has already won the 2020 Cult Critics Award for Best Film.
And that was broadcast on ABC, right?
The Cult Critics Award.
It's not on ABC.
It's on EFG.
EFG.
You know what I mean?
I get it.
But there is a cult critic sort of, you know, a group online that calls themselves the cult
critics.
And they said it was the best movie.
So there you go.
That's something.
Well, there's this big fan, a big Donnie Darko fan.
And you probably know this because you are Stu Stone.
But I just discovered this, that he put together a Darko-mentory.
Oh, yes.
Right.
You know where I'm going here?
Okay.
So let me, can I play a 90-second?
I'm going to do it anyway, even if he said no.
I'm going to play a 90-second clip. And to set this up because you don't have visuals because i made it
it's audio only here but um you're in this clip and i'll just play it and then we'll talk about
it here we go this is huge are you recording okay that's stewart stone right there he's in the movie
he of course plays Ronald Fisher Mr. Stone
hi
I'm Daryl Donaldson
your character seems like a really great friend
in the movie
thank you
would you consider yourself a really great friend in real life
I would say that I'm a pretty good friend
are you friends with a guy like me
I don't see why not
you look like a pretty nice individual
cool
that's awesome that's awesome that's cool I don't see why not. You look like a pretty nice individual. Cool. Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
That's cool.
What are you guys doing after the panel?
I think they got some stuff lined up for us. Like, we're going to go to some sort of a reception or a dinner or something.
Oh, cool.
I'll try to catch up with you guys.
Maybe I'll give you a call or something.
Sweet.
Could you say somebody really ought to write that bitch, Daryl?
Are you sure this is for, like for an official Donnie Darko thing?
Yeah.
For your own personal collection?
No, no, this is for the DVD.
This doesn't look like for the DVD type of equipment.
No, but we've been...
I'm sure that the fine people at Donnie Darko could afford a microphone without an orange cover.
Well, no, it's sort of a contest.
Oh, really?
It's the number one fan contest at Donnie Dark contest. Oh, so you're the number one fan?
Well, if I win the contest. I am the number one
fan, but when you win the contest, they'll
put your film on the DVD. Oh, that's awesome.
Somebody ought to write that bitch, Daryl.
Oh, thank you very much.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, I can let you go inside
now. Yeah, I'm gonna go. But yeah, we should
try to hang out later. I'll look for you.
Cool. Okay. Alright, look forward to it, man.
Great. Good luck. Thanks. That's funny. You're so cool. You're so cool. trying to hang out later i'll look for you that's cool cool okay all right great good luck thanks
that's funny you're so cool you're so cool did you get like a restraining order again no it's
actually uh pretty funny so that's uh that was my first time ever at a com at san diego comic con
okay so donnie darko we did like a panel. It was like the movie had already come and gone,
and this was like getting ready for the re-release that was being announced,
like the director's cut that was coming to theaters.
So we got to do like a panel, and they did like a signing at like a Donnie Darko booth, let's just say.
And there's people like dressed up like the movie.
It was like crazy.
It was like the first time we ever kind of realized that this was something bigger than we realized.
we ever kind of realized that this was something bigger than we realized.
This particular clip that you just played actually is part of the DVD extras of the re-release,
Darko...
Darko Mentry?
Darko Mentry.
Right.
Todd Berger is the guy that's doing the interviews there,
and he actually went on to have a pretty awesome career in Hollywood
as an actor, but also as a director and a writer.
He wrote the movie The Happy Time Murders.
I don't know if you remember.
It was like a rated R kind of Muppet movie.
Yes, yes.
That was last year.
Yep, yep.
He wrote a bunch of really cool stuff.
And he has a TV series called Liberty Crossing.
I don't know if you know that show.
No, I remember.
He's doing very well.
Pat Mastroianni after degrassi had a show called the
liberty street right so this is not that um i actually met uh pat uh at an event last year
last year nice guy i met him once in my life when he played papa ball when i was managing papa ball
and i said hey joey jeremiah and then i let him play for free. This is at the CNE. Oh, nice.
And this will tie in nicely to this week's theme,
which I'm not ready to unveil, but let's just tell the people instead of the –
He was a nice guy, and he was fucking Tessa, for the record.
Yeah, Campanelli.
Yeah, I think that was – Cam brought that clip pretty recently.
Yes.
Music we like better after we discover it on a TV show. Yeah, I think that clip pretty recently. Yes. Music we like better after, or we discovered on a TV show.
Yeah, I think that was the last week I failed you all with my...
You've been putting up Hall of Fame numbers ever since.
Oh, yeah.
I really do my best here.
Now, here's another fun fact I learned about you, Stu.
This ties into Donnie Darko, but it also ties into your, I think,
underappreciated rap
career so stone's hidden talent for rapping was discovered at the first public screening of donnie
darko at the sundance film festival in 2001 yeah as the projector in the screening caused trouble
caused trouble who wrote this he jumped on the stage and started rapping and dancing to the audience.
He also created his own
freestyle character, Stu the
Jew, there.
When his accidental rap debut was
well received, he got an idea of
starting a band to pursue a
music career. That was the moment his
local LA band, The Stone Movement,
was born.
Yeah, Good times.
Speak to this.
Like,
is this at all?
Is that true?
A hundred percent real.
Uh,
the first public screening at the,
uh,
at Sundance and halfway through the movie,
the projector stopped working.
It started playing the movie backwards.
And so people who had never seen Donnie Darko before,
and this is the first screening,
right?
So it's,
uh,
you know,
if you're,
you know,
40 minutes into that movie and all of a sudden it starts playing backwards at first, you're like, Oh, this is the first screening, right? So it's, you know, if you're 40 minutes into that movie, and all
of a sudden it starts playing backwards, at first you're like,
oh, this is probably part of the movie.
Then all of a sudden the projector just stops working.
And there's like this,
it stops, and because
this is part of Sundance, I guess the projection
is to come and fix what the issue was
is at another theater. So
they gotta get him to come and fix it.
So they sent up Richard Kelly to do sort sort of an impromptu Q and a,
and you know,
people have only seen 40 minutes of this weird movie and nobody really knew
what to ask him.
So he was kind of dying up there.
Right.
And then they brought up the producer to try to do it.
Then they brought up someone else and I was with a couple of buddies and
they were like,
go up there.
So I went up there and I just sort of killed what ended up being like,
you know,
90 minutes before the thing was fixed. And I started just like freestyle rapping and
just doing a whole kind of show there that got very well received by Monday when I got
back to LA. Yeah. Somebody, there was like already word going around about this sort
of incident. And it led to me getting to work with like legit music producers and record
rap songs.
Oh, this is where I'm going.
So firstly, what is Stu the Jew?
Is that you?
Well, that's me, but it rhymes, you know.
And at the time when we weren't so politically correct, that was, you know, you could get away with.
I think you could still get away with that if you're Jewish.
I can't be Mike the Jew, but, you know, it's not, I don't, you know, it's not my go my go-to line in 2020, but in 2001, Stu the Jew was really fun.
And I started doing it, and it was a very fun time.
It actually led to the whole Jamie Kennedy, Bob Saget stuff was all stemming from that incident.
Because if I hadn't started pursuing music,
Jamie wouldn't have heard it,
he wouldn't have asked me to get involved
with Malibu's Most Wanted album,
and then we wouldn't have come up with
Rolling with Bob Saget.
Oh my God, yeah, it all comes together now.
It's kind of crystallizing here.
Now, this band, the Stone Movement,
debuted on stage at the world-famous
Whiskey A Go-Go in Hollywood.
Yeah, that's true.
Where are you getting this information?
I got lots of sources, my friend.
And you sold out audiences on the California club scene.
We were doing very well.
It was a lot of fun.
I wouldn't say that there was like tens of thousands of people,
but we were playing like, you know, 500 person rooms, like no problem.
That's all the hip were doing in California.
Yeah, I mean, we were playing those venues,
those same ones up and down the strip. it was so much fun time of my life.
Uh,
and it didn't,
you know,
the,
the,
it sort of disbanded after a while and,
uh,
evolved into like just me and Jamie doing this,
doing our thing.
Yeah.
You hadn't blown up on MTV.
Yeah.
Jamie Kennedy.
That's right.
Back now we're in about,
I guess,
2006.
Yep.
And you did the rap album.
And which, let me see, what else is interesting?
You mentioned the Bob Saget and Jason Biggs.
They both appear on this album.
They do.
And I am building to something I'm going to play in a moment here.
Oh, boy.
But let's see, you did the tours.
So we talked about this on previous panels.
I think people need to kind of appreciate your rap career a little more like we
kind of gloss over it and hit it here and there but if you
dwell on it it's kind of amazing man
you did we talked about those tours
and
we let me see here
what you would
routinely have a Bill
Dawes would open up these shows
do I know Bill Dawes he's a comedian
is he funny? Very funny.
He's in the news right now, actually.
He's one of the guys that was sort of, you know,
helping to, I think, pinpoint stuff with the Chris D'Elia situation
that's going on.
I think Bill's sort of one of the social justice champions
against whatever Chris did.
Chris didn't do.
Yeah, yeah.
So Bill's doing that.
And then we talked about the tour of Iraq and Kuwait
with Kennedy and Dawes and B-Boy Casper.
Paul Wall.
Paul Wall, DJ Joey Nix.
On YouTube, we talked about the success.
Again, this is over many, many weeks,
so you can have to put it all in one package here.
Circle, circle, dot, dot. I got my cootie dot dot one number one on youtube now circle circle dot dot i got my
cootie shot seems like a song that we could revive when like a vaccine is available for
uh for the coronavirus so jamie if you're listening maybe we need to like do like a 2021
remix circle circle dot dot i got my covid shot so i'm gonna play a song this is i guess we're looking at are you going to play a song. This is, I guess, we're looking at.
Are you really going to play a song?
Yeah, a little bit of one, just because I think it's a guy that you've dropped this guy's name periodically.
Kenny Loggins?
And I'm always impressed.
Michael McDonald?
DJ Lethal.
Oh, yeah, that's my boy.
So I'm always impressed that you worked with DJ, because you mentioned real, actual, real, you know, rap professionals are working with you and stuff.
So can I play a little bit of Superbird and we can talk about this okay so this is super bird Back up, back up, this time hand solo No more Chewbacca I'm on a mission, I'm wishing to get a better job
Need to get more cheddar, need to get a better broad
Like Kraft Mac, I got them blues
Another rapper crapping on me, hating my shoes
Hating my shoes, straight hating me, dude
Asked me if I paid less, told him that it laid less
I got so much goddamn swagger
Rolling stone, man, Bro-man Jagger.
Yeah, you shot one, two straight to the brain.
All right, I mean, you get the point.
You get the point.
I'm, like, fascinated because you did what I dreamt of doing, man.
Like, you did it.
That's funny.
Super Bird.
That's a good song.
After the Jamie Kennedy stuff, I uh writing material because i thought we were
going to do more and then when we didn't do more i just sort of started putting more material
together and i tried to release this album underneath the same sort of record deal uh but
they weren't it didn't happen so this was like sort of like a there's like all these songs that
are sitting in computers so we put them out, a couple of them anyway, and
this is Superbird, DJ
Lethal produced the track,
and he's done a lot of
tracks with me, and
he's one of my very, very
good friends. This isn't a name
drop, like he's really a friend.
I like the name drop, I know he's really a friend.
It's not just some guy that I took a picture with.
You know. That's pushing it, but I actually, as you know, I'm a fan of the name drop. I know he's really your friend. Yeah, it's not just some guy that I took a picture with.
That's pushing it.
But I actually, as you know, I'm a fan of the name drop.
Good.
Even if you did a little gig with him one night, I like it when you drop the name.
Well, he's a legend, man.
If you get into a studio with him, from zero to 60, he'll blow your mind. The production skills that he has are way more underrated than anything I've ever done.
Like he's just the man.
What's the name of this album?
This album is no longer in circulation.
It might be The Return of the Stone Movement.
So this was like after the Jamie Kennedy thing.
It was like The Return of the Stone Movement.
And it had a bunch of songs on it.
And there's actually, I think I may have mentioned a hint at this before but there actually
is another top secret project that I've been working on that is a audio visual type of
experience that has new rap songs and new visuals to go with them that I've been working on for the
last almost two years so wow holding that one close to the vest but eventually close to the
breast they say or vest holding it to the the vest, but eventually close to the breast, did they say, or vest?
Chest.
Holding it to the chest.
The breast.
Holding it close to my breast.
Close to you,
holding it close to your chest.
So if you're a fan of Stu Stone music,
or if you're not,
there's more to come.
That's a big announcement.
Yeah, but a couple years in the making,
but is this one of those,
I've had artist friends
who everything's a couple years in the making,
and then forever you wait,
and then they never happen.
No, no, because we've, you know, there's already been like six songs recorded
and we have a whole sort of release kind of plan to make it unique.
So we'll see.
Is there any room for a cameo from Cam Gordon maybe or Colonel Mike?
Sure, yeah.
I mean, we could do like one of these sort of skit introductions to a song maybe.
Oh, my God.
Could you imagine?
That would be good.
That would be unbelievable.
Like W Ball.
What is it, W-Balls?
It's all been building up to this.
Like if I could just do that,
then it's all been worthwhile, I think.
But I just want to give you props
because I enjoy your rap music
and just having that little chat
about the kind of the whirlwind rap career of Stu Stone.
It's like, do you ever wake up and go like,
did that really happen?
It's kind of, I'm sort of like not embarrassed about it but it's a little embarrassing like at this stage in my life and also
throughout the entire course of me going through that like if someone asked me what do i do for a
living i've never once said like i'm a rapper i think that would be embarrassing for me to say
because that's not true i'm not there are people that breathe sleep and eat being rappers and they
work their whole life to rap and this is just just something that I just knew how to do.
And it's not, you know, it was a dream, but like, you know,
it's not age appropriate anymore.
Okay, but this song we're hearing now came out in 2011.
That's only nine years ago.
Right, so it wasn't age appropriate then either.
But, you know, I can't help myself.
I just, you you know i have so
much fun with it i'm a huge fan of hip-hop i'm known as the yacht rock guy here but uh really
you've reinvented yourself hip-hop is really you know that that was my obsession oh yes and emotion
right i'm actually gonna ask you if i can go and steal that haes Mama because I had some beer on your table. Please. Yeah.
I'm not going to drink it.
Hayes Mama.
Hayes Mama.
Is that you vamping there?
Hayes Mama? Yeah.
Alright, so thank you Great Lakes for
providing the beer for the Toronto Mike show
and for being such wonderful sponsors
for many, many years now, at least four.
And to Ford Canada for providing Lincoln.
Oh, there's a nice crack.
The Lincoln Aviator.
Thank you, Ford, for that.
That wasn't a Navigator.
It was an Aviator.
No, it was an Aviator.
Is that better than a Navigator?
I think so.
Wow.
Sounds like it.
Those seats give a good massage.
Butt massage.
And because I have it for this weekend,
I'm going to drive it to visit my boy in Waterloo on Saturday.
Boy, just putting the clicks on that thing. Yeah., I'm going to drive it to visit my boy in Waterloo on Saturday. Boy, just putting the clicks on that thing.
Yeah.
And I'm going to drive it.
I think I might put the bikes in there and go to Niagara-on-the-Lake tomorrow.
Committed crime.
Put a body in there.
Then return the car and you're off the hook.
Let's introduce the topic.
Yes.
So normally, you, me, and Cam pick five jams each, and we have a topic.
This week, we each pick seven jams, but there is a bonus jam to get us to 15.
Yes.
So strap yourselves in.
We're going to be here for a while.
Yeah.
And there's a few, as usual, there's a few, what do we call it again, mind blows?
Yes.
Trademark, patent pending or whatever.
Mind blow of the week.
Mind blow of the week.
So the topic this week, and Stu, you don't have children, is that correct?
That is correct.
But do you have nieces and nephews?
I do, yes.
I have nieces, I have nephews, and I myself was once a child.
So are your nieces and nephews, and if it's too personal, let me know,
but are they going back to school or are they Zooming it?
That's a personal question.
They are doing as they are mandated
to do, which is go back to school.
They are going to be going to school
until that isn't an option anymore, I guess.
It's not an option. They don't have to go back
to school. They can do it on Zoom.
I don't think that's
what any of their friends are doing or anybody in the community.
My kids are going back to school.
They're going back to school. They're following the herd.
I think it's like a, you know, it's a redefined sort of schedule.
I think they go like three days a week or two days a week or just mornings or who knows.
And they have to wear masks.
Right.
I don't know if this experiment is going to work.
I certainly hope it does because I think that if we can manage to have kids in school and we get through a month and there's no crazy sort of super spreading going on.
That's a good sign.
Oh, my God.
So I'm hoping for the best.
Obviously, I see what's going on over the border with the school openings, some being disasters.
So hopefully that's not the case here.
But I will say that back to school, it's an event, man.
will say that back to school was it's it's an event man like growing up it's uh the first day of school is just as big as new year's eve christmas eve uh the night before the first
day of school is as anxious as the night before christmas etc etc your birthday whatever it's one
of those things that you knew was coming every year for at least 12 years of your life or maybe
more if you're a doctor or you failed a couple grades uh but you know that first day of school it's like
clean slate and always i had oac so that was like a 13th yeah i did too i think and junior and senior
kindergarten that's 15 years yeah i and i think that it's sort of like a happy new it's the new
year really starts on the first day of school it's like the first day of school you got your fresh
gear on you got your hair cut or whatever your outfit's been picked out it's like your new pencil case you go to class there's
not real work those days it's sort of orientation sort of meet see who's in your class some fun and
games and you're just back in it and it's a whole new year fresh start clean slate like you had the
the fresh paper in the binder yeah and all this stuff was exciting to buy right yeah yeah your pencil crayons your sharpener right all in your new and you know
it's to some people very uh a lot of anxiety because they don't like school or they get right
you know they don't have a good experience there so there's it's scary did you like school uh i
think i did i think i did uh you know I definitely loved like the social aspect of it.
Do you remember like certain like telltale signs school was back?
The big one I think was the C&E.
Like when that C&E opened, you kind of had a countdown clock.
Yeah, the summer's over when the C&E's over.
Right.
And it's like, you know, it's coming.
Also the back to school commercials, they'd start coming on earlier and earlier than Christmas. It's like as soon as you saw the first back to school, it's like, you know, it's coming. Also, the back-to-school commercials, they start coming on earlier and earlier than Christmas.
It's like as soon as you saw the first back-to-school,
it's like, oh, shit, summer's over.
Right, right.
Grandin Toy, shout out.
Of course, the final weekend of the X always had the air show,
so basically that was like your last hurrah.
I worked at the X one summer.
So I did three summers.
Yeah.
And do you remember which, which,
which,
do you remember which calendar year?
Uh,
this would have been maybe 91 or 92.
I was not 89,
90 and 91.
Okay.
So 91,
I was probably,
that was the year.
This is like when we found out we were at all those pumpkin shows.
Yeah.
Together.
And we were at that freaking,
uh,
rusty show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just a couple of years.
A 2am show.
Yeah.
Wow.
And that was part of like indie music,
music week or whatever. So good. Shout out carpenter so um the feeling of going back to school is such that
even well after i had finished i graduated u of t and i had nothing to do with school because at
that point i hated school and it's still kind of there like i actually kind of feel it now it's
like i don't know if it's because of my kids i don't think it's because of of there. Like I actually kind of feel it now. It's like, I don't know if it's because of my kids. I don't think it's because of that.
Cause I think I had it before the kids showed up,
but it's something that almost never leaves you that little tinge of anxiety,
a little excitement,
a little bit of whatever that feeling is going back to school.
Yeah,
for sure.
It's sort of like a birthday in a lot of ways,
because if you think about it,
you know,
on your birthday,
you were like,
Oh,
I'm seven now.
But like when you go to school, like on Monday, you're a grade five student.
On Tuesday, you're in grade six.
That's like your age year.
Right.
Right.
So there's so much to it.
You know, summer's over.
It sucks.
Summer's over.
Summer's over.
It sucks.
I can't believe how quickly it went by.
Spring and summer were basically canceled.
Unless you had Ford hookups and you could go.
But you know what I'm saying?
It's like it just went by.
The older you get, I think time just goes by faster.
It does.
And also, as you're alluding there, too, this is a fucked up summer.
Everything was kind of topsy-turvy and upside down. And it took a while to kind of figure, the, this is a fucked up summer. Like everything was kind of topsy turvy and upside down.
And it took a while to kind of figure out that,
we're okay outdoors.
Like I know that at some point,
like it was a slow burn and you're scared of everything for a while.
Like we just shut the thing down.
Right.
And then at some point you start to realize,
Oh,
you can actually see people and do things and go to a patio and do things as
long as you're outdoors and you're not like getting in their grill.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously there's exceptions to everything, but yes, for the most part, I would say that
is accurate.
And I think we didn't know what we were doing.
And I think the fact that we did lock it up is the reason why we were successful.
So the people who come out and be like, well, there's not enough K, there's not a lot of
cases.
Well, that's because we locked down, you know?
Gotcha, man.
But I will say I went swimming a total of zero times this summer.
Oh, yeah.
I went to zero cottages.
I, you know, wore shorts like twice.
It wasn't like a big summer activity summer for me.
You're not a cyclist.
I'm not a cyclist.
I did ride a bike a few times, but I'm not a cyclist.
Yes, this summer.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Okay, cool.
Good for you.
I just noticed you never wear shorts.
I like to wear these shorts like into November.
Yeah.
Well, there's like that white person thing where like you can see white Canadian guys
in December wearing shorts.
Yeah, guilty as charged.
Speaking of outdoor safe activities, I announced it last week, but I want to remind everybody
that there's a rogue TMLX6.
Celebrating the Jewish New Year.
Correct.
We're going to celebrate the Jewish New Year.
This is September 18th at 6 p.m.
It's at Marie Curtis Park on the Toronto side because there's a Mississauga side and a Toronto side.
This is basically the southwest corner of Toronto,
like literally.
And we're going to be
just a little north
of the playground.
And I have maps and things.
Write me at
mike at torontomike.com.
I'll send you the details.
But just show up.
We're going to just literally,
it's going to be so low key.
I'm going to bring
some cold beverages
and we're going to check in.
Like here we are
surviving the summer
of the pandemic. How's everybody doing? It's going to be really low key. I'm not recording it. We we're going to check in. Like here we are surviving the summer of the pandemic.
How's everybody doing?
It's going to be really low.
I'm not recording it.
We're just going to a bunch of FOTMs collecting in a park at September 18th at 6 p.m.
to see how we're all doing and have a little chat, man.
It's going to be cool.
So again, I have low expectations.
Cam Brio is going to be there.
I hope Cam Brio does show up.
He is.
He's going to bring the Brio.
Will there be five people?
Will there be 500 people?
The line I'm predicting, like the Vegas
line, I would say is
19 and a half. Oh!
Because I mentioned it last week, but Andy
said she thinks 10 people will come, and I
said, let's go for 20. So my goal
is to beat that 19 and a half. That's a good
line. You're taking me over. That's a good line.
Yeah.
I'm picking the over.
Yeah.
So come on out September 18th at 6 p.m.
TMLX 6 is in Marie Curtis Park.
We're going rogue and we're going to be discreet with our sneaky beverages.
Okay.
They can't talk too much about that, but it's going to be fun.
Nothing discreet about that announcement.
Did I ever?
I didn't say what the beverage was.
You're giving the location. You've basically spilled out
the crimes that will be committed. Go ahead, folks.
If you want to get there, police, if you're
listening, cuff all of them. Oh, police are
invited. Come on out. We're all part of
this community together. It's going to be very responsible,
very safe. We're going to be socially
distanced outdoors. Is there going to be a kissing booth
this year? No, I had to kibosh
the whole kissing booth thing.
For sure.
Did we ever announce the theme?
So to be clear,
we had that nice little chat
about going back to school.
I was kicked out
of a lot of schools,
by the way.
Is that right?
Yeah.
For what reason?
Class clown?
Yeah.
I was a class clown.
Yeah, I got tossed.
But I never got tossed.
I got tossed.
I got detention.
So how many schools
did you get booted from?
Two.
But were they like private schools?
Three.
Were they private schools or public schools? One was a public school.
Really? Yeah. You gotta be a bad boy to get
kicked out of a public school. That was like a big
swing in the neighborhood. Like that year
was grade five, fifth grade for the Americans
listening. We
had I think ten
kids in the fifth grade got booted in the same
year. They like just did like a clean sweep.
Is that like when you see the movies where they had to get rid of the bad kids to improve fifth grade got booted in the same year. They just did a clean sweep. Is that like when you see the movies where
they had to get rid of the bad kids to
improve the grade point average or
something? One of those scam things.
Some kids ended up in
behavior type schools.
Some kids ended up in other
sort of programs. I ended up in the gifted
program. Oh, I did too.
I was there. That's where the rest of
the next seven years I was with the the smart kids wow yeah i just remember the movie pump up the volume
up the volume yeah you've mentioned that okay you know i it really struck a chord with me when i saw
it i like the soundtrack i like the movie i really like that movie and yeah part of that movie is uh
the principal is getting rid of the stew stones of the school to uh improve the grade point average
or something like that.
So I'm sorry to hear you got booted from school,
but it seems like you kind of like school.
I got kicked out of a Hebrew school too.
That's hard to do.
Because they really want to cash those checks.
Oh, right, because that's a private school.
Cost.
Because only the Catholics get their own board covered by tax money.
Exactly.
How do you feel about that?
I actually didn't know about it until three seconds ago when you just said it,
and I'm very upset to hear it.
I went through that system.
You did?
Yeah.
And when I realized as an adult,
especially when I became a lapsed Catholic and a happy atheist,
and I looked back, I said, that's fucking unfair. Like, there's a lot of religions, but only one gets the special taxpayer stream.
Like, I never paid out of pocket for that.
So Catholics get their own stream.
Well, that's good for them.
I guess so.
But the Jews have to pay for theirs.
Yeah, you've got to pay.
And the same is true for all the other religions out there.
Yeah, if you are in a religion that's not Catholic, you are paying for that private education.
That's not fair.
This is so fucked up.
Okay.
Got tossed.
Now I'm angry.
I'm angry.
So the theme this week, before I thank some partners and kick out the first jam,
the theme this week is back to school.
Yes.
We've got our seven and some bonus jams.
Great film with Rodney Dangerfield.
Yeah.
Triple Indy.
It's fair to say that other than Caddyshack, other than that,
this is the greatest work of Rodney Dangerfield's career.
He gives guys like me hope because he got discovered at like 55.
I got no respect.
So I got time.
I got time.
He was a late bloomer, that guy.
All right.
So who am I going to thank today?
Let me just go to my bag.
Barbara?
Is it Barbara?
Barb Paluskiewicz.
Yeah.
905.
905.
Good for you.
542-9759.
I'm actually going to co-host a webinar with Barb in a couple of weeks.
I was going to say.
She needs you, Mike.
That's your outsourced CDN technologies.
They're there for you if you have any computer or network issues or questions.
They're your outsourced IT department. So if you have employees
or you're the manager and you're
responsible for the IT function,
outsource that whole
IT function to CDN
Technologies so you can focus on
your core business. Is there a promo code there?
No, no promo code. Just chat Barb up.
I also want to
thank Pumpkins After Dark
and this is kind of interesting.
So I was...
New promo code.
New promo code.
But I don't think the old...
The thing is, some people listen to Toronto Mic'd episodes a couple of weeks later, right?
Like, I think that old promo code won't work.
So I did write about this on TorontoMic.com.
I'm concerned for the FOTMs out there.
The new promo code is Mic'd.
Am I...
Why'd they change the...
Was your old promo code such a hit?
Yeah, it was such a hit.
Too many people knew it.
Somebody posted it on one of those
popular
sites for deals.
Someone, huh?
Wasn't me.
Is that an affiliation kind of thing?
People use that promo code. Do you get like 25 cents?
They're trying to measure FOTMs
who use the code
because they heard it on Trotter Mike.
Right.
But once it got on this popular deal blog thing.
Something that was more popular than your show?
Well, you know, possibly.
That's impossible.
So I have a new promo code.
Go to pumpkinsafterdark.com
and when you book your tickets,
and you got to do it.
These good time slots are selling out.
Use the promo code miked.
M-I-K-E-D. That'll
save you 10% and that'll
let them know that you heard about it on Toronto Miked.
Dulong? Do you know who that is?
No. D-Long?
Dulong? Duo Tang
Binders for back to school? No, no. Someone in the
Periscope saying that they're going to be there.
Okay. Tell them it's or her it's miked. M- the periscope saying that they're going to be there. Okay. You tell them it's
or her it's miked. M-I-K-E-D.
They can hear you.
That's the good news.
Shout out to palmapasta.com. My mom wants
a lasagna. I have one lasagna
for you. Is that okay? Because Cam Gordon
took the lasagna last week and he
tweeted. I was unplugged for a whole
time. I'm turning off my phone. Wow.
Is this your first rodeo or what?
I know.
Who's calling you?
It was my mom.
Why didn't you answer it?
I would like to talk to her.
Next time, if she calls back and she might, I will answer it,
and then we'll do a little chat.
Hopefully she hasn't fallen and can't get up or something.
No, I told my mom.
I said, Mom, I'm going camping.
I'm unplugging.
Does she still think that you're camping?
No.
Oh.
No, because I had a little barbecue for my boy, a farewell party for my boy here, and she was there.
But I said, I'm going camping.
I said, I'm unplugging for three days, I said.
So just so you know, I don't have, there's no data at this Pinery Provincial Park.
And I had a voice, then I finally checked in on the world three days later,
and I saw that she had left a voicemail in the heart of my camping trip to tell me her TV is broken.
I need to swing by and fix her TV.
I hope you fixed it.
No, then at some point I guess she realized I wasn't checking messages so she
phoned my wife who told her, ready
for this?
Turn the receiver off
and on to reboot
it. So unplug it for 10 seconds
and plug it back in. Fixed everything. Of course.
The TV was, the receiver just
needed to reboot. It had crashed.
She probably had it on for too long. What is she watching?
Matlock? No Matlock, but
she's really big on, well, she's a big CP24
watcher, but she likes the
E-Network. There's a lot of shows on the
E-Network she watches, but don't get me
started. I'm a little shocked by that.
StickerU.com. Get your
stickers and such. They've been a great
partner for many, many years. Shout out to StickerU.com. Shout out to Kareem They've been a great partner for many, many years.
Shout out to StickerU.com.
Shout out to Kareem.
Kareem, I haven't seen him.
I haven't smelled him yet.
Haven't smelled, yeah.
Well, we're a little early, right?
He comes later when the sun sets.
Sunsets are beautiful.
Even when his sun sets,
he's had on the pillow to go to bed.
Right.
So I'm drinking my Great Lakes beer.
I have a lasagna for you from Palma Pasta.
Thank you, StickerU.com.
Austin Keitner, if you're looking to buy and or sell in the next six months,
I can't imagine a better decision than contacting Austin.
Like, do it now.
Do it now.
Be a good FOTM.
After you call Barbara, call Austin?
Well, not everybody has a network,
but anyone can talk to Austin about real estate.
A guy can talk to anyone about real estate.
So text Toronto Mike to 59559.
And what happens there?
He returns that text?
Yeah, and then you guys can meet either on Zoom
or you can have a phone call.
You send sexy photos to each other?
He's a great resource.
He knows his shit.
He knows his stuff.
All right, Stu Stone.
Yes.
We'll dedicate this episode to Cam Gordon. Who was a very good student. I bet you he was. All right. Stu Stone. Yes. We'll dedicate this episode to Cam Gordon.
Who was a very good student.
I bet you he was.
He was.
Because he seemed serious.
He was a good student.
He was not a class clown.
Like if you got to know him, he was.
He could be.
But generally speaking, he was a good kid with a good head on his shoulders.
The opposite of me.
The opposite of Stu Stone.
So let me just get this right.
So usually we lead with cam.
There's no cam today.
So this is our first cam-less episode of Pandemic Fridays.
Well,
okay.
I got your first jam loaded up.
Are you ready to go back to school?
Yes.
So this is songs that are about school.
Did I never say that?
That's embarrassing.
I'm a terrible host.
I think I teased it and then I got distracted.
Songs about school. These'm a terrible host. I think I teased it and then I got distracted. Songs about school.
These are songs about school.
These are school jams as kids are going back to school.
And we're going to kick out Stew Stone's first school jam.
You want to say something first?
Yeah, I do.
This is a school jam, but this is a jam.
And it's about time we played something from this genre
on this program it's been a long time so uh let's let's start let's start songs about school
oh man oh man oh man oh man yo yo yo i can't understand why the parents and the teachers
and everybody trying to beat you to kiss the young generation.
Yo, what's the deal, Carl Charlie Brown?
Yo, man, I don't know what the deal is.
You have to ask my father, Dingo D.
Yo, yo, tell his D, tell his D.
That's confusion, G.
Oh, boy, what's up?
Hey, y'all, man, it's just another case of that OPTA.
Oh, man.
The school I wrote notes to quote some Shakespeare
and other types of rhymes to show you that I care.
But things like together forever, T, you're my only one.
Only one.
It was special, I could say it was a lover one.
You would say someone's knocking on the window.
Knock, knock.
Someone's ringing my bell.
Ding dong.
It's about two in the morning.
And yo, James, what the hell's going on?
It's just another case of that OBTA.
But nevertheless, it goes to show my potential.
Waiting for a you, you know who
Busta?
Yeah
But this is Case of the PTA
Leaders of the New School
Hip-hop
Won't be the last hip-hop jam we get tonight
Long Island, New York's
Probably only hip-hop crew that I'm aware of.
And they were in tight with Tribe Called Quest.
Tribe Called Quest.
That's what put them on the map when they were on the Scenario remix.
Yo, bonus this.
Okay, here's a Young Busta Rhymes.
Busta Rhymes, the mighty infamous.
Always misbehaving and mischievous.
Causing aggravation I'll never pause.
Pushing out spitballs to plastic straws
In class
The driller got caught at last
Falling off the courtyard glass
Hey, teacher, teacher
Go to the flat
I'm a rise, I'm a setter, call blast
Hey yo, in class
Teacher to this girl Cheryl
What?
The teacher tried to tell me you're a pharaoh
No, no, no
I'm not with attention
No, I'm known with suspicion
A child wicked and wild
That carries ill styles
Teacher just in 92 Go talk to my mommy Know when she gets home She's gonna rail the body There you go.
Busta Rhymes.
Busta Rhymes would go on to have one of the most prolific hip-hop careers of anybody.
Busta Rhymes, world-famous hip-hop superstar.
Humble beginnings in his group.
Leaders of the New School featuring Charlie Brown and Dinko D, if I'm saying that correctly.
Funny story here.
Yes.
So these guys were discovered by Public Enemy,
who took them on tour.
And Public Enemy's Chuck D actually gave Busta Rhymes
and Charlie Brown their stage names.
Get out of here.
I did not know this.
So Busta Rhymes got his name from Chuck D.
That's a great name, Busta Rhymes.
However, they wanted to call themselves
Leaders of the New School. There was another group, Busta Rhymes However, they wanted to call themselves Leaders of the New School
There was another group, a white hip-hop group
That was being called
Leaders of the New School at that same around time
So they had a war to settle the score
And basically
Chuck D
This is a true story
Chuck D sent the white rap group back
And the Leaders of the New School that we now know
Back with a beat and told them both to record over that track whoever has the dopest track gets the name
leaders of the new school and of course we know what happened uh buster rhymes and uh
charlie brown they had the better track they earned the name leaders of the new school
the white rap group was renamed young black teenagers yes and i always felt even back then
how can you be young black teenagers and be a bunch of white guys?
Yeah, so there you go.
And they had that, did they do the song, the Kelly Bundy?
Yes.
Nobody knows I had Kelly Bundy.
Yes.
Which ties in nicely with the fact you have a King Kong Bundy character
on the table right now.
I do. Busta Rhymes made his TV debut on the Arsenio Hall show
with Tribe Called Quest, you mentioned Scenario.
The band ends up breaking up
because Busta Rhymes is just stealing the show
left, right, and center.
Yeah, he's like Diana Ross.
He has to go solo.
They've had some reunions over the years,
various sort of festivals and whatnot,
but really Busta Rhymes has...
You've already impressed me
because I didn't know the Public Enemy story
and I actually was thinking of young black teenagers.
For some reason, I do associate them.
But I didn't know that origin story.
Here's a funny story real quick.
One of my good friends, Phil Glasser, he was the voice of Fievel on the American Tail movie.
Big deal.
So he was one of my roommates when I lived in L.A. when I first got there as a teenager.
Me and him started wrapping up parties together.
I was Stu the Jew and he was Philly G.
And we called ourselves the Macabees.
We were like Macabees.
So we would rap anywhere we could.
We would be just rapping at the parties and freestyling.
We had a whole shtick that we did.
Anyway, we ended up putting out one song together
that came out on some
compilation album.
The review was in, do you remember Blaze Magazine?
It was like a hip-hop magazine.
It was like The Source or XXL,
one of these types of things. They reviewed
that album and said that
Philly G and Stu, the Jews' song
was
scraped to the bottom of the barrel
of mediocrity and said that it made the young black teenagers
look like Run DMC or something like that.
So not a good review.
No, but I would frame that.
But obviously that's a school song,
the leaders of the new school,
case of the PTA, the Parent Teacher Association.
Right.
That's your first school jam.
My first school jam, and I'm happy to set it off.
And I'm glad you
kicked off i'm glad because you're right i feel like correct me if i'm wrong and i don't want to
general that cam will eventually hear this recording but uh cam's not a big hip-hop head
right like guys he he was around it like all of our friends we all i mean we listen to wu-tang
and tribe called quest and i mean he was around it for sure around it yeah but i don't think he's
ever kicked out a hip-hop jam uh no but think he's ever kicked out a hip-hop jam.
No.
But I'm glad you kicked out a hip-hop jam.
He has, actually.
He's got his ASAP Rocky he likes.
Oh, yeah.
He does call up those new stuff.
Is there any hip-hop yacht rock?
Have they ever emerged?
You know, not...
There was a...
Okay, there's this guy, Alchemist.
He's a DJ.
DJ Lethal, actually, was his mentor.
Alchemist is a producer who does mob deep stuff and he does uh uh dilated peoples i think he does a lot of really
he's like a dope fucking producer right alchemist he did a yacht rock mixtape where he had all yacht
rock sort of inspired tracks with uh you know really good rappers rappers on it, like what's his name?
Big Guy
has like a cooking show
where he smokes bongs and eats food.
Action Bronson
is one of the rappers on there. A bunch of guys.
So that's one thing, but there hasn't been like some
breakthrough. I thought maybe you were talking about
Roger Mookin for a minute. No, no.
But yeah, there needs to be more of a
Yacht Rock crossover.
I agree with you.
All right, before I kick out my first back-to-school jam.
Oh, wait a minute.
Warren G. Regulate.
That's a sample of Michael McDonald.
Right.
Okay, so there you go.
That's Yacht Rock.
That's the apex there.
I want to give a shout-out to a couple people.
So you're keeping your eye.
Stu Stone is watching the Periscope.
Not much to watch today.
There's nothing going on.
Most people are watching the Raptors. Yeah, that is true. We are up against the Raptors.
And I'm watching
the Twitter feed here. So I want to shout out
a couple of people on Twitter who are chatting
us up. One, Matt Layden.
Matt Layden says,
Hey Toronto Mike, what's going on tomorrow?
So shout out to Matt Layden.
That just came in. And Andrew Ward
says, Absolutely love the Pump Up the Volume shout outs
by Toronto Mike and Stu Stone.
Everybody knows Wave of Mutilation.
And then he goes,
hey Cam Gordon,
fear not about the first ever Cam-less Toronto Mike episode.
Stu Stone had your back,
but he's so awesome.
I get the sense he always has your back.
Yeah, I do.
So thank you, Andrew.
And thank you, Matt Layden, for the lovely tweet.
I'm going to kick out a jam.
It's a little different.
You ready?
Yes. She's a cool, blonde, scheming bitch
She make my body twitch
Walking down the corridor.
You can hear a hustling little click.
I want her so much I feel sick.
The girl can't help it.
She really can't help it now.
It's like a high school, a high school confidential.
High school, a high school confidential.
Teenage Brando. All right, this is a CanCon classic, a Canadian New Wave classic.
Are you familiar with this song?
No, I mean, it's vaguely familiar.
Okay, it's from 1980, but I would, you know, it's one of those songs where it shows up on lots of like, for example.
I've heard the song before, but I just, but I'm not that familiar with it.
This song is called High School Confidential.
It's by Rough Trade.
And singing that song is Carol Pope.
That's a woman?
Yeah.
That's shocking.
Well, you want to hear it?
Well, now I hear it.
And it's very, I always liked it. And it's very...
I always liked it.
It's very explicit.
It's got swear words.
Yeah.
I remember the word bitch in it.
Oh, boy.
See, it's kind of like Dirty, right?
It's a Dirty song.
I like it.
Is it about like she's in love with a teacher?
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on.
Like she makes me cream my jeans when she comes to me.
So she's into a female teacher.
It's like a girl-on-girl kind of thing.
Right.
So it's, like, written from, like, a lesbian perspective.
I like it.
I know.
It's like a Penthouse Forum song.
And it's not, like, an underground song.
This is, like, a big CanCon classic.
Like, this shows up on, what's it called?
When the Junos put out that box set of all the big CanCon classics.
That's called...
Not Raise a Little Hell.
What's it called?
It'll come to me.
But this is on that.
That's where I first picked it up, on the Juno box set.
What was that called?
More Than a Feeling?
I can't remember anymore.
It'll come to me.
It was good, man.
It was a good way to sample a lot of
CanCon classics from before your time or whatever.
That's not before my time.
1980? 1980 I was probably
listening to like, you know,
Ernie and Burt records.
Yeah, because some sources have you born in 1980.
Yeah, well,
you gotta check your source.
So, I
think of this Rough Trades song when I think of school jams.
And what's interesting is they say at the time of its release,
it was one of the most sexually explicit songs ever to reach the Canadian pop charts.
It sounded sexually explicit.
Yeah, I know.
I'm all hot and heavy here.
I need a moment.
I'm actually regretful that your Periscope feed here shows under the table
because I can't really be subtle about what I really want to do under here.
Yeah, it's sexy as all hell.
So that's all Carol Pope's doing.
She's just a sexy chick here.
So we're off to a roaring start here.
Leaders of the New School, Rough Trade.
You ready for your second jam?
Yes.
I never know.
You have to let me know.
Is there any preamble to this?
No.
Okay, let's just dive right in. ¶¶
Oh, it's me, all song and all I was happy and free Save my soul, the board of education took away my parole
I gotta go back, back, back to school again
You won't find me till the clock strikes three
I'm gonna be there till then I gotta go back, back, back to school again
Whoa, whoa, I gotta go back to school
Back to school again.
Shockingly, the artist, I wouldn't have known this,
shockingly, the artist, I wouldn't have known this,
The Four Tops.
Legendary Motown group, The Four Tops.
That same group that gave us such hits as I Can't Help Myself, Sugar by Honey Bunch,
You Know That I Love You,
I Can't Help Myself, I Love You and Nobody Else.
It's the same old song.
They have, I mean, hits.
This is Back to School Again.
You're familiar with the film Grease, correct?
I am, yes.
Grease, of course, made for $6 million, grossed $366 million.
Star John Travolta as Danny Zuko, Olivia Newton-John as Sandy,
and Stockard Channing as Rizzo.
Always liked Rizzo in that movie. This, however, is from
Grease 2.
The lesser favored
Grease...
The lesser favored Grease film.
This is the 1982 film
Grease 2. This is the four tops?
It seems a bit... It's the four tops,
baby. Aggressive for the four tops.
This is the four tops, man.
Michelle Pfeiffer starred in Grease 2.
Got her big break there.
Christopher McDonald was in that movie as well.
You might be familiar from...
From the Billy Madison.
Shooter McGavin.
Of course.
None of the people really from Grease were ever involved.
The first Grease, none of them signed on to do this one.
There's no John Travolta in that thing.
No, this is a Max Caulfield.
But originally, a fun fact,
before Michelle Pfeiffer landed
the role in Grease 2, the lead role,
Pat Benatar was considered for
the role. Also kind of sexy, right?
Does this
tie back to the Arrows? No, but
there is some Canadian content here.
Bronte Woodard,
the writer of Grease 2.
And Ken Finkelman.
Ken Finkelman.
Ken Finkelman.
You know who that is, right?
He directed Airplane 2.
Right.
And also wrote Airplane 2.
Right.
He is the one who wrote Grease 2.
You want to go way back in the time machine,
go back super early Toronto Mic'd episode with Andrew Stokely,
the audio guru I refer to often, who was working on Airplane 2 with Ken Finkelman as an audio guy.
And get the story of Airplane 2.
It's quite the story because it's really got nothing to do with Airplane 1.
But Ken Finkelman might be most famous, might be most famous for The Office.
Is it called The Newsroom? most famous for The Office. Not The Office. Is it called The Newsroom?
Sorry, not The Office.
The Newsroom, but not the newsroom
people know from HBO, but the newsroom
from CBC. There was a popular
newsroom on CBC, which I used to watch.
Jeremy Hotz and a bunch of people.
You might know Peter Cunningham and these guys.
But that was his baby.
Yeah, Ken Finkelman.
Wild. Ken Finkelman. Wild.
Ken Finkelman.
Wow. I think everybody who was involved in Grease 2 assumed that they were going to be doing big business here
because, of course, the first movie, $6 million budget, $366 million box office.
The second movie, they doubled the budget.
They spent almost $12 million on the second film,
but it didn't work out at the box office, unfortunately.
It was a bust.
Big stinker.
Big stinker.
But I definitely watched the movie many times.
As a kid, I didn't know the difference.
I thought it was great.
Okay, I never saw it.
But it's always interesting when a franchise changes up the lead actor.
Usually it's because they have no choice.
But Speed 2 2 for example
has no Keanu Reeves. Well I don't think they were trying to pass off
Max Caulfield as John Travolta. I think this is like
a different school year. Teen Wolf 2
has Jason Bateman.
But that's Teen Wolf comma 2 T-O-O
like Teen Wolf as well. He's also a Teen Wolf.
He's not the same guy. He's also a Teen Wolf.
Teen Wolf 2. You're right. Look who's talking 2.
It's a different baby. There's a different
baby talking. But there's still a John Travolta
Look who's talking too
But it's just like a different baby
Because now it's like oh well look who else is talking
Right right right right
Amazing you always bring a Stu Stone
Always bring a Rob to a roaring start here
Now you know you let us
Off with a hip hop jam
I'm going to do that now too
Oh good yeah I'd love that
Turn this up let's go School spirit with a hip-hop jam. I'm going to do that now, too. Is that okay? Yeah, I'd love that. You ready to go? Sure. Here we go.
Turn this up.
Let's go.
School spirit. Get in the speed.
Alpha step.
Omega step.
Kappa step.
President Kanye West.
Gangsters walk.
Pimps gon' talk.
Oh, heck, you know that boy is raw.
AKA step.
Delta step.
SGO step. Zeta Step Gangsters rock, pimps gon' talk
Heck yeah, that boy is raw
I'ma get on this TV, mama
I'ma, I'ma put this down
I'ma make sure these light skins
It can never, ever, never come back in style
Told them I finished school And I started my own business They say, oh, you graduated No, I decided I was finished We'll be right back. I waited here. This nigga graduated at the top of our class. I went to cheesecake. He was up for the motherfucking way to there.
Alpha step.
Omega step.
Kappa step.
Sigma step.
Gangsters walk.
Pimps gon' talk.
Ooh, hecky no.
That boy is raw.
AKA step.
Delta step.
S-G-O step.
Safe to say this is the album that made Kanye West.
Oh, yeah.
This is the big one.
Jesus Walks is on this freaking album.
What a talent.
The college dropout.
Unmistakable production as well.
It's like, that's Kanye's sound.
Oh, yeah, the pitched up...
Everything about it, yeah.
That's an Aretha Franklin sample.
This is a key part of the story here,
which is that song you're hearing...
Oh, God, it's good jam, too.
But that song, that Aretha Franklin song is called Spirit in the Dark.
She wrote it.
She performed it.
Kanye sampled it and pitched it up.
But Aretha Franklin would not allow Kanye West to sample that song because it had the
N-word in it.
So this version I'm playing, which is from the album, this is not the radio edit, this is the album edit,
has the N-word, they do that scramble effect where they play it.
So it's censored to comply with Aretha Franklin's wishes.
I guess you want to sample Aretha Franklin,
you've got to listen to what she wants.
Yeah, you don't mess with Aretha Franklin.
It's funny, even talking to you now about Aretha Franklin,
I remember the day Aretha passed away
was the day of the Molly Johnson episode of Toronto.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, and it was a sad day, you're right.
But she was on her deathbed for a number of days
leading up to that moment.
Sang America the Beautiful at WrestleMania III.
And that was the big, to me, that was the,
and I think you'll agree,
that was the big breakthrough for the WrestleManias.
That was like the height of it.
That was Hogan Andre.
That's when I was in there.
King Kong Bunny against Little People.
Right, Little Beaver.
Yeah, Lord Littlebrook.
Right.
Wow.
Great song.
I don't know about Kanye now.
He's a little out there, but can't take away this.
This is, he was the man here.
Still is.
Super talented producer and rapper and businessman.
How many years ago was the release that had Ultra Light Beam on it from Kanye?
Because my daughter, I was just in the car and we connected the, what's it called?
The Aviator, the Lincoln Aviator to her bluetooth and she was doing her playlist and stuff and she reminded me of how
into that album i was and i was talking about that album like it was like two years old but
apparently it's a lot more than that now wild because it's got the chance to rap 10 is 10 years
ago i know well your rap career uh it was 2011 that dj lethal song which is not that long ago
but it's a long time ago.
But School Spirit by Kanye West.
Smart of him to shout out all the fraternities and sororities there, too.
Kind of like good marketing move.
You never really heard somebody do that before.
I mean, maybe they have.
I just don't remember it.
So Kanye was very smart in his approach.
And this is a guy who wanted to make it, and he made it.
And what an impact.
Yeah, and again, College Dropout does change the game.
And this was kind of the main, yeah, the songs on College Dropout.
There's a lot of school-themed stuff going on in the College Dropout.
But School Spirit, and that's the song that has the skits surrounding it.
You got the School Spirit skit one, and then you got School Spirit, then you got School Spirit sk and that's the song that has the skits surrounding it. You got the School Spirit skit one,
and then you got School Spirit, then you got School Spirit
skit two. Alright, my friend.
Holy smokes. Is this the grunge episode?
Are you ready for your third jam?
Yes, I am.
It's the video.
And then there's media
plus a lot more.
It is very relevant in America today guitar solo At home
drawing pictures
of mountaintops
with him on top
lemon yellow sun
palms raised in a feed
And the dead lay in pools of maroon below
And daddy didn't give a chance
Oh, to the fact that mommy didn't care
King Jami, the wicked Well... Jeremy's falling Thursday Well
Clearly
I remember
Let's see if he's gonna swear
The video's to know
Seemed a harmless little fuck
Oh yeah
Look at that
Holy smokes
I felt like since you talked over
Pearl Jam last week
And it was sort of like a throwaway
And a grunge episode
where they should have been getting a lot more air time.
Two weeks ago.
That was two weeks ago, grunge?
Two weeks ago.
Last week we had no words.
Yeah, we had no words.
Two weeks ago I felt like Pearl Jam was disrespected.
But none of us picked a Pearl Jam.
That's what I'm saying.
You mean a lot?
Yeah.
They were disrespected.
They were played as sort of an off-moment,
sort of let's talk over the whole Pearl Jam song.
So this is Jeremy,
which does fit conveniently into a school-themed episode
due to the fact that it is about school and school bullying
and a kid that sort of shoots himself in front of the school.
Song written by, lyrics by Eddie Vedder.
Music by bassist
Jeff Ament
bass player wrote the song
and this is based on a real story right?
based on a real story
that Eddie Vedder had read
about a guy named
Jeremy Wade Deli
or Del
high school student
who shot himself
in front of his English class
January 8th 1991
wow so that means
the song was written pretty fast
and released pretty fast,
because 91 is already like grunge mania happening.
Eddie doesn't fuck around.
The song is interesting.
All music says that Jeremy is where Pearl Jam Mania
galvanized and propelled the band past the Seattle sound
and into rock royalty.
Arena rock.
This is their most successful single.
This is the most...
No, no, no, that's not true.
Well, that's according to the stats.
Well, maybe it's the most successful Pearl Jam-ridden single.
It's definitely not the most successful Pearl Jam single.
Well, I know that Last Kiss...
Last Kiss.
Last Kiss is not their song.
Right.
Okay, so yeah.
But that is a Pearl Jam song, but not written by Pearl Jam.
Fun fact.
Yes.
The Jeremy single was released commercially to international markets in 1992.
So it didn't chart in the United States until 1995.
Because before then, if you wanted to get the Jeremy single,
you had to buy an import CD that featured Yellow Leadbetter.
Yes, the B-side, yes.
That's how Yellow Leadbetter became a big song
because people were trying to buy Jeremy.
They had to buy the import.
There's Yellow Leadbetter.
So the song actually didn't chart in the United States
on the mainstream charts until 1995, three years later.
So there you go, folks. Pearl Jam.
Did you know
you're a Pearl Jam fan like I am? Sure.
Did you know on that same album,
10, one of the standout tracks
is Black. Yeah, of course.
Which they never released as a single.
Yeah. Well, that whole album's good.
Yeah, I know. It's a front-to-back type of record.
Once, all of it. Yeah, yeah.
Here's something really interesting
and I don't know if it works
necessarily for this particular Pearl Jam
conversation but just in general
if you think of somebody who has
to be an expert in something
you need to put in the minutes right
yeah you put in your reps
10,000 hours is it
Malcolm Gladwell says something like that
so you know presumably someone who's like a real expert in their trade or prime is a little
bit older, right? They're in their 30s, 40s, maybe 50s by the
time they get those minutes in to call themselves a real champion of
whatever that chosen field is, correct? Correct. Yet in music
the most prolific songs of our time are written by kids that are 19
to 25 years old
that have only just been playing music a little short time.
You know, the best players in the world, you would presume, are people in their 40s
who have been doing it for 20 years, that know their instrument in and out,
that know music and know everything.
So why is that? But how much of that has to do with the MTV?
I don't know. I mean, even before MTV, you know, the Beatles were kids.
The Stones were kids.
What, Nights in White Satin we played a few weeks ago.
19-year-old kid.
You're talking about...
Tomorrow by Silverchair.
Kids are writing...
You know, young people are doing really profound things when it comes to music.
It's probably one of the only professions like that.
You know, you don't have too many,
you know, unless you're Doogie Howser,
doctors aren't really performing surgery at 19 or 20,
but Pearl Jam's writing Jeremy.
Amazing.
I know, I know, I know.
I mean, that whole, like you said,
it was a playthrough.
10 is a playthrough,
and I fell in love with that album,
and I'm still a big Pearl Jam fan.
I'm doing this a public service, which is that I'm going to keep my eye on the Raptors score.
Because it is in the first quarter now.
The Raptors lead the Boston Celtics 10-7.
12-7.
Okay, yeah, you're ahead of me there.
Okay.
So, you're wearing your Vince Carter jersey?
Yes, available at KS Retro Sports.
Vince Carter, that's my sister's Instagram.
Okay.
She's a peddler of sporting wear.
I did not know that.
Yes.
I'm learning lots of things today.
But it's a great jersey, and you and I are of an age where it's probably the only team that we were a fan of on,
I mean, a home team that we were a fan of on day one.
Yeah. This is our only, yeah. I mean, T home team that we were a fan of on day one. Yeah.
This is our only, yeah.
I mean, TFC too, but I was never as into them, of course.
But big, my son is crying next door.
Anyway, because we recorded early.
Do you want to ask him if he's okay?
No, I feel like he's okay.
Jarvis, are you okay?
Oh, he's okay.
You going to go see mommy?
What happened?
The ball hit your nose?
And then it hit your face?
Oh, that's James' basketball.
Be careful, okay?
Hope you're okay, buddy.
Come here if you need a kiss, okay?
All right, I'm sorry about that here, but okay.
Are you shaking that off?
Are you shaking it off?
I don't know.
Walk it off, kid.
Walk it off.
All right, now I'm going to kick out a jam.
Are you ready?
Yes.
That's a good one.
Unmistakable.
Right off the needle drop.
Rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock The Grunge Gym. Now my relationship with this Ramones song, Rock and Roll High School, is I used to watch a lot, as like many Torontonians of my vintage,
I watched a lot of late great movies on City TV.
Late great movies.
And usually it was The Voice, Mark Daly, who was introducing me to the movie.
And one movie that I caught one night that I just loved was Rock and Roll High School.
And the Ramones are all over this thing.
Obviously, the song they wrote for the movie is Rock and Roll High School. And the Ramones are all over this thing. Obviously, it's the song
they wrote for the movie
is Rock and Roll High School,
which we're listening to
right now.
The Ramones are not grunge.
I'd call them punk.
Of course that's punk.
I know.
I know.
We kid.
We kid.
But a lot of fun facts
about this.
First of all,
Clint Howard,
Ron Howard's brother,
is in this movie.
You kind of listen
to the Ramones.
It's like really like
just like the Beach Boys with
more edge. Like the Beach Boys
with an amp.
You know, this movie...
Doesn't it sound like surf rock?
Yeah, and they also do that Surf and Bird.
Oh, they do? Yeah, that's right. They have a great cover of Surf and Bird.
It just sounds like a...
Yeah, I know. I hear the Surf and Bird aspect.
A heavy rock sort of Beach Boys.
Even like the lyrics and the harmonies.
All Jewish band, do you know that?
Really?
I think so.
I think I heard that fun fact somewhere.
No Catholic school for these guys.
I don't think so.
The Ramones only got in this movie because the executive producer,
of course, everybody knows Roger Corman.
Roger Corman, executive produced this movie because the executive producer, of course, everybody knows Roger Corman. Roger Corman
executive produced this movie
and he wanted Cheap Trick
or Todd Rundgren to play
the band in this movie.
They couldn't get those guys
because of a conflict, so they
had to find an alternative and they
went with the Ramones.
One of the actors in the film
suggested the Ramones and it all worked out. It's a typical Ramones track in, that worked out. One of the actors in the film suggested the Ramones, and it all worked out.
So it's a typical Ramones track in that it's a short ditty.
But the soundtrack to this movie, Rock and Roll High School,
which I quite enjoyed,
features a song or two that might get played later in this episode.
Oh, you're going to like the mall?
That's typical Mike. Typical Mike. It's like that show. What is that show episode. Oh, you're going to the mall? That's typical Mike.
Typical Mike.
It's like that show, what is that show,
that HBO show you love,
the Showtime show, The Deuce.
Yeah, HBO.
You went to the same show three times in one episode.
Yeah, but come on, it's not the same thing.
In fact, you picked the other song,
so there you go, Mr. Street Stone.
I take it all back.
Take it all back.
Oh my God.
You know, I'm going to talk to Cam.
I think next week we're going to kick out the FOTM jams
because I've wanted to do this the whole time
and I just want to get it over with, make me happy,
and then we'll move on.
It is basically each of us pick our five favorite songs
by people who have been on Toronto Mic'd.
So you just pick the song here.
I'm going to play it right now.
This is by a couple of people
Who have been on Toronto Mics
You ready for your fourth jam?
I am, yeah
I am Found my locker and I found my glasses
I left my lunch and I broke my glasses
That guy is new
That girl is wailing
First day of school and I'm already failing
This is me in great night, baby
This is me in great night
This is me in great night
This is me in great night, baby
This is me in great night
I got a blue and red Adidas bag And a long and spiner I'm trying my best not to look like a minor niner So...
Minor Niner.
Yep.
This is me in grade nine.
Bare Naked Ladies.
I was actually in grade nine, as was Cam, when this song came out.
So we identified with this song because it was literally us in grade nine.
And this is from Gordon. This is from is from Gordon and his last name is Gordon
the debut studio album
for the Bare Naked Ladies of course they had
gone gold with their
yellow tape independent
manufactured cassette I'm sure you got that
history directly from the horse's mouth
but in case
people didn't hear that if their name is Stu. In case people didn't hear that,
if their name is Stu Stone,
in case they didn't hear that,
I'm happy to give you what I've learned about...
Okay, you tell me what you've learned
and I'll correct it as the authority.
Basically, in 1991, these guys won a contest,
Discovery to Disc Contest, which was a CFNY contest
with the prize being $100,000.
And, I mean, that's an unheard of contest.
I don't think there's ever been another one since.
Now it's $1,000.
Yeah, like $100.
They were able to hire a producer to work with them,
and they ended up working on this album, Gordon,
which exploded
on the Canadian scene
and across the border
had some success
did it?
I think it did
I mean I remember
it doing very well
well there was
Brian Wilson
was that a US
I actually
I think that was something
but really the next album
after that
is the one that really
you know the one with
like the Chinese chicken
and the
well that's not the next one.
Or two albums from there.
Whatever the case may be.
I think the first taste of you is success.
And I could be wrong.
It's the old apartment, like from Rock Spectacular.
Yeah, you could be right there.
You're probably right there.
But I just have this image of Barenaked Ladies being the it band in my bubble of that time.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
They had a controversial name.
They played Mel Lastman Square.
They famously recorded tracks for their album Naked,
which I don't know if they talked about that on the show.
No, they didn't mention that detail.
That's too exclusive.
Yeah, so basically the producer was like
wanting to get some real earnestness out of them,
and the members of the band, some of them anyway,
recorded several songs nude for the record.
There's a lot of Easter eggs in that song that we just
played. I guess we won't be
able to tell, but if you listen back to the song
at around the one, almost a
two minute mark, there's
a little homage to Rush Tom
Sawyer. They play
a little riff there.
The second to last
chorus, there's a little riff based on Linus and Lucy,
which is the song that was played last week.
Which we kicked out last week.
Yes.
And there's another Rush Spirit of the Radio
sort of callback in there.
So, and the final fun fact.
There's a million fun facts.
Well, this is the final one
because we've got to move on, I'm sure.
The first TV appearance that they ever had.
Stop.
The Peach Pit after Dark. No. 9-0-2-0. Their first ever TV appearance that they ever had. Stop. The Peach Pit after dark.
No.
90210.
Their first ever TV appearance was with friend of Toronto Mike,
Ralph Ben-Murgy on his Friday night show.
Friday night with Ralph Ben-Murgy.
That was their first.
You know what their real first TV appearance is?
Speaker's Corner.
Okay, well maybe that.
Because they do Yoko Ono on Speaker's Corner.
Right, but this was their first book
appearance. Wow, Ralph Ben-Murgy.
Ralph Ben-Murgy is like the Ed Sullivan
to the Beatles is Ralph Ben-Murgy
to the Barenaked Ladies.
You'll have to ask him about that.
I heard this story recently because
I produce Ralph Ben-Murgy's podcast
Not That Kind of Rabbi
and we had Stephen Page
on the show and this came up in that conversation.
So you were just pretending not to know?
I actually thought you were going to talk about the Speaker's Corner.
No.
Because they went in there, put their loonie in the slot, and they did Yoko Ono.
Yeah, not that.
And it got lots of airplay on City TV.
Right.
So not that.
I'm talking about Ralph Ben-Murgy.
Wow.
Not that kind of rabbi.
Well, let's not forget the sensation when they blew up.
Because that Yellow Tape, which was the biggest selling independent album in this country or whatever.
And we all bought the Yellow Tape.
I bought a couple of copies of it.
It was played on 102.1 like crazy.
Grunge.
Blame it on the rain?
No.
Blame it on me.
Blame it on the rain is another song.
Blame it on the rain is Michelle Tanner's favorite song.
Oh, by Milli Vanilli.
Yes.
Right.
Blame It On Me, they did a great Public Enemy cover,
although I think they're a little embarrassed by it,
but they did, of course, Fight The Power.
Let's do it all.
Brian Wilson, of course, was the big Stephen Page song,
which made its, I think we discovered, me and Mark Weisblatt,
that it made its debut on the CIUT show
hosted by...
Ralph and Merkin.
Dave Bookman.
No, Dave Bookman.
Of course, the Bare Naked Ladies could have been played
during our Family Bands episode
because they're our brothers, I believe.
The Cregan brothers? The Cregan brothers?
Yes, but one of them left kind of early, like left the band early, I think.
There's Jim and Andy, if I have the right Cregan names.
Jim and Andy, that's right.
And I think one left early, and then the guy from the Look People took over.
Shout out to the Look People.
Shout out to Cam Gordon, who definitely knows what the hell you just said.
Because, yes, he does like the look people.
And that's James B's song.
And then the guy came up with that.
But again, Barenaked Lady is still going strong.
But of course, Stephen Page is now a solo artist.
Are they going to get back together?
No.
Ever?
I don't think so.
You think this is like a Chicago thing?
I think they're done.
Like Saterra's not coming back?
I don't think they're getting back together. Even if there's some Canadian Rock and Roll Hall of Fame type of gimmick?
Well, they did that already.
The Junos put them in the Hall of Fame.
And they didn't show up together?
No, they played together that night.
But that's not getting back together.
That's like a one-time only.
Yeah, they played together that night.
I would imagine they will get back together.
But why?
Because there'll be money on the table.
Why not?
People will want to see them together.
I'm having a talk to a couple of members of the band,
I talked to Tyler Stewart and I talked to Stephen Page,
my feeling is they're not getting back together.
If an ultimate warrior can come back to WWE after all those years,
anything can happen.
If Bret the Hitman Hart can come back to WWE after the Montreal Screwjob,
then the Barenaked Lady can get it together
if there's money on the table a few years from now.
Are you ready for me to kick out an old school rap song
that I love that's pretty fucking obscure, I think?
I'll have to speak to this, but are you ready?
Yes.
Rick and...
Too strong.
Too strong.
Too strong.
Rick and...
There is no escape.
From the valley of... From the valley of... From the valley of... From the valley of... Too strong. No escape from the valley of the GDBs. Think don't get any hotter. No escape from the valley of the GDBs.
Think don't get any hotter.
Think again.
We're getting there.
Putting a question mark on the situation and thus reducing it to the lowest terms causes us to react like this. Uncle Sam, the mascot of America
No dogs allowed, encourage your commander
The president, the punk, the idiotic
Why pledge allegiance if a nigga ain't patriotic?
So you sent me to the Dean Marcello
She filed a complaint and wrote up a forfeiture
Cause I didn't put my right hand on my chest
And full of victim to the next man's progress
I got mad and kicked the grader in the wall
Broke down shit with a stick like walking tall
Cause an African American got offended
I snuffed the Dean and then got suspended
By a bitch in a red, white, and blue dress
I went home on a parental request
She suggests I straighten up and try to make the honor roll
Or get kicked out of school
Just like a field goal discharge
Ready for the dumpster
Listed as a failure
Another black youngster
Hell no
I don't make mistakes
I slide right past those scholastic snakes
It's all about school
Okay, class
Does anyone have any questions?
Yeah, who gives a fuck?
The Boston Tea Party
Wars of Koreans.
Hitler and the Nazis.
Crown Europeans.
The president's peanuts.
America's bravery.
Black man from the jungle and slavery.
Straight up bullshit.
Fuck the homework.
Give me a zero for the curse and the smart smoke.
You failed me because you thought I was dumbest.
Who found Africa?
Fuck Mr. Columbus.
Teach me something that a nigga can gain From the blacks were slaves and where they
Came from, I know now because my
Grandmother told me, if I waited
For you, I'd be an old fogey
Fifth period is just a phase
While you talk bullshit, I roam
Hallways, always, cause the class
Ain't necessary, your culture crooks
Your books in the cemetery, the facts
I mention put me on addiction, my conduct's
Bad cause I don't pay attention You can't detain me, don't hold your breath I passed the class at last with Sorry, I got lost in the song there.
Okay, so as a big Public Enemy fan, when I heard...
I was going to say, is this a Public Enemy offshoot?
Yeah.
Terminator X put out an album.
Right.
And it's called The Valley of the Jeep Beats.
And I picked it up.
It had one...
Pretty much picked it up because I heard one cut had Chuck D on it called Buckwildin'.
But it had a bunch of stuff on it and I ended up liking a lot of it.
Homie Don't Play That.
But they had a song by this...
These guys are called Juvenile
Delinquents. Yeah, I remember them.
The song is called Juvenile Delinquents
and it's kind of, if you
listen to the lyrics, it's about like how
I guess you're supposed to pledge allegiance
to the USA every morning. Oh, I definitely remember
them. Oh yeah, did you go to
school in LA? No.
So, uh... No, I did not have to pledge the allegiance in school, but I No. So, uh...
No, I did not have to
pledge the allegiance
in school.
But I remember in Canada
for up until
I forget what grade
we had to do
like the Lord's Prayer
every morning.
In public school?
In public school.
Oh, I just...
See, I don't know this.
I'm learning
because I was in
a Catholic school
and we did the Lord's Prayer.
We did the Lord's Prayer, yeah.
Even...
When did they get rid of it?
Um... Because that's bullshit. Yeah, we had to do the Lord's Prayer. When did they get rid of it? Because that's bullshit.
We had to do the Lord's Prayer.
What do your parents think about you're not even Catholic or Christian?
I know. We had the Lord's Prayer every morning.
We sat over the loudspeaker. The kids had to say it.
I think that's awful.
Well, they don't do it anymore.
No. I wouldn't let my kids go to fucking public school if they were doing it now.
No way. Keep them separate. Public school if they were doing it now. No way.
Keep them separate.
Public school and religion.
You got to keep them separated.
Offspring.
I had no issue with it, by the way.
But why wouldn't you?
I didn't know what it was.
I was just saying the fucking thing I had to say in the morning. It's like a mantra.
It's like another thing you have to learn at school.
You're pledging allegiance to God.
Well, that's okay.
Could be worse.
Could be worse.
to God.
Well, that's okay.
Could be worse.
Could be worse.
So I get that's about a black perspective
of not wanting to pledge
allegiance to the USA.
Well, that's kind of timely.
Yeah.
And it's really interesting
to hear that song in retrospect.
But I always like,
there's a line in there
at the end,
just before I fade it out.
School is boring,
made for ignoring.
Sometimes sitting in class
I'd be snoring,
which I've been dropping
on the kids forever.
But the Terminator X and the Valley of the Jeep
beats Juvenile Delinquents.
And I think that's as obscure as this is going to get today.
But I always like that jam.
I want to make a suggestion.
Nothing to do with that song.
Is it a Raptor update?
No.
Okay, go.
Future reference.
Like this camera angle that you have on the periscope? Well, we can
change it right now. I feel like you're just
like, seeing under the table is
not... Is it for me? No, for
me. Like, you're just... It's not that alluring
of a... Can't you come closer? Well, let me go look at it.
Hold on. Hold on. Let me look at it.
Let's do this together. You know, I
feel like, as a director... So, it's on this
green chair. I would move it closer.
I would move the whole fucking apparatus closer.
That's what I would do.
Okay.
Let's see how that looks.
Hold on.
I brought a bit of a tape delay here.
You're being blocked by King Kong Bundy.
Move King Kong Bundy.
Maybe have him lie on top of Palma.
We're on a huge delay, so I can't tell you.
Okay.
I remember now.
There is a long delay on that thing.
Okay, now let's see what happens here.
There's a bit of a...
And remember, this tight shot, you might be right.
I wish you had said something an hour ago or whatever,
but that's okay.
Now KKB is right in the shot. And because my
camera's on the same
table as yours, that's fine.
I don't really care too much about the camera angles
actually, but everyone's watching the Raptor
game. Looking now,
you know, can you
see me better? Yeah, you look good.
Now you can't see under the table,
I could be doing whatever I want to do.
I forgot there was no Cam Gordon today, so I had to have the back job.
This is good.
Thank you for your production.
I mean, I'm a director.
I know.
Honestly, you never see this too amazingly.
You've got to use my skills.
All right.
You ready for your-
Shout out to Andrew Ward, who's in the-
Periscope?
Periscope, and to Dave Dave Truman and to Brother Neil.
Brother Neil makes an appearance here.
Good for them. Not too much action in the chat room.
They're watching the Raptors game.
Maybe they're all Cam Gordon fans.
I doubt that.
I'm not doing this about Cam.
Okay, you ready for your fifth jam? I am.
I am a real American
Derringer
Rick Derringer
Which is the Bonnie Tyler song, right?
Which one?
I am a real American
No, no, it's a different one
Oh, it's a Hulk Hogan theme
That's Bonnie Tyler
See, the one nice thing About the nighttime recordings Is the kids aren't outside I Am A Real Marriage? No, no. Oh, it's a Hulk Hogan theme. That's Bonnie Tyler.
See, the one nice thing about the nighttime recordings is the kids aren't outside, but they're cute.
Very adorable. I love them.
Yes.
We had a good camping trip.
This song's about kids.
We're the teacher, the subject of schoolgirl fantasy.
of schoolgirl fantasy She wants him so badly
Knows what she wants to be
Inside her, there's longing
This girl's an open page
But we're marking
She's so close now
This girl is half his age
Don't stand, Close To Me
by KRS-One's favorite band, The Police.
In fact, KRS-One did a song,
That's the Sound of the Police,
referring to this band that I played
in songs that reference other artists, if you recall.
Yeah, that was the first time you jumped the shark.
Well, I don't think so.
I think it's actually proof that that's real.
That's real.
So I know, so can I, this is another Gordon.
So we had this, the album Gordon.
Yes.
Cam Gordon's not here, but this is Gordon Sumner.
Shout out to Gordon Shumway.
Right.
Alf.
Alien life form.
Sting, Andy Summers, Stu, the Jew, Copeland, probably not Jewish.
Sting, Andy Summers, Stu, the Jew, Copeland, probably not Jewish.
Sting, Andy, and Stuart make up the band, a three-piece known as The Police.
This song was released in September 1980 as the lead single from their album,
Zenvada Mondara.
Right.
It clearly is an inappropriate relationship that it details between Sting, presumably,
and a schoolgirl that had a crush on him,
which led to some sort of a rape thing happening,
which sort of led to the secret getting out.
Interesting that Sting used to be a teacher,
so you can understand why people would be a little bit weirded out by some of this when it first came out.
And I'll tell you what Sting had to say.
Tell me.
I wanted to write a song about sexuality in the classroom.
I'd done teaching practice at secondary school
and been through the business of having a 15-year-old girl fancy me
and me really fancying them.
How I kept my hands off them, I don't know.
This is really creepy stuff.
Wow, that is creepy shit.
Like, I don't know how I kept my hands off my? I don't know. This is really creepy stuff. Wow, that is creepy shit. Like, I don't know how I kept my hands off my
students. My odd students.
Then there was
My Love for Lolita, which I think is a
brilliant novel. Wow. But I was looking
for the key for my 18
months, and suddenly, there it
was. I'd opened the gates, and
out of it came the teacher, the
open page, the virgin, the
rape in the car, which I never picked up on until he told me, getting the sack, Nabokov, and all that.
So Don't Stand So Close to Me is to like Lolita, Don't Tempt Me?
No, it's like we can't be seen.
Don't stand close to me.
Right, but is it that's – so Don't Tempt Me because then I'm going to have to grab the cakes?
Could be.
Funnily enough.
Wow.
What a tea.
Glad he left the profession.
Funnily enough, Sting becomes so popular and the police become so popular,
he was asked to perform on Mark Knopfler's Money for Nothing.
Oh, yes.
Which we have talked about here.
The cameo episode of Pandemic Fridays.
And accidentally, Sting used the melody from Don't Stand So Close To Me
when he was saying, I want my MTV.
I want my MTV.
Yeah, I can hear it.
I can hear it.
So there was a little bit of discussion there.
The song became so immensely popular in 86.
This is kind of interesting.
I don't know if you ever pulled this up,
but they did do another version of the song.
Yeah, this is like a whole...
It's very rare that you have a band
completely re-record what was their biggest hit at the time,
or one of their biggest hits.
Eric Clapton with Layla.
Sure, but that was like unplugged and regular.
But he completely rearranged his hit.
But this is a completely different song.
I agree.
But I'm trying to contribute to the show, Stu.
Let's hear this.
Sounds like Father Figure.
I will be the one who loves you
till the end of...
A young teacher
with the subject of A young teacher The subject
Of schoolgirl fantasy
She wants him
So badly
Knows what she wants to be
Inside her
There's a law
This girl's at
No one page
Bookmarking
She's so close now
This girl is half his age
Completely different song.
Let's get to the chorus.
Let's see how that goes.
Okay.
And I'll check on the score
while we wait for the chorus.
Gotta win this game,
man.
You don't come back
from 3-0 in the NBA.
Yeah, completely
different.
Unrecognizable.
Ironically enough.
Don't Stand So Close To Me, 86 as this was called,
was the last recording the band ever made before they broke up.
And the most recent studio recording they've ever done together.
This is their latest song as The Police.
They did have a reunion tour,
a very pricey one,
but that didn't come
with a new record.
So obviously the original
Don't Stand So Close To Me
is the iconic one,
but for people like Cam,
who like, you know,
he probably likes
this version better.
Do you have a sense maybe
that the Raptors are,
like, they,
I don't want to say
they want to go home, but almost like they want
to go home. No, I think they went
down 0-2 last year
and they came back and won.
Milwaukee's currently down 0-2 right now.
So listen, anything can happen.
It's a seven game series.
If they lose tonight, it's not good.
I would say if we lose tonight,
we're not coming back.
It's not 100% because still anything can happen.
It's not 100%.
How many times has a team in NBA playoffs come back and beat nothing?
It's called the reverse sweep, and it has happened in professional sports.
Especially in hockey, it's happened.
It's happened a few times, but only a handful of times.
But, yeah, I mean, listen, these guys got to hit buckets.
Did the Red Sox do it against the Yankees in 2004?
Yeah, I think they did. San Jose Sharks against the LA Kings recently in the playoffs. That's why we remember. Did the Red Sox do it Against the Yankees In 2004
San Jose Sharks against the LA Kings
That's why we remember
So it is now
The Raps are down by 2 points
Near the end of the first quarter
If you're watching on Periscope
We're cruising along
So we can catch the
Second half of this
Don't Stand So Close To Me is a song about a teacher that wants a student.
Yeah, it's a little pervy, a little...
Risqué.
Risqué.
A little high school confidential.
Inappropriate at the very least.
Yes, but a school song nonetheless.
Still a school song, right.
That's right.
All right, I'm going to fade down that 86 version of Don't Stand So Close To Me,
and I'm going to kick out my next jam. guitar solo
Won't you believe it's just my luck Won't you believe it's just my luck Was Dave Grohl the drummer at this point?
I don't think so.
For Bleach?
No, I don't think so.
He was on this song.
Why do I think it's a guy with the initial CC or Chris?
Here, I'll check it out.
Hold on.
But this, of course, is Bleach.
This is from Bleach.
It's called School.
This is the...
Smells like Team Spirit could have been a school song.
It's like about school cheerleaders in school.
High school.
We would have had some controversy.
Oh, the music video clearly had tons of...
I could have picked Britney Spears' Baby One More Time.
Right.
I didn't.
Right.
Here we are.
Here we are.
Right. Here we are. We are...
Chad Channing.
So I was right about the Cs.
Chad Channing was a drummer on Bleach.
And Bleach, of course.
I want to be the cool guy to tell you I had bleach before Nevermind,
but nope, I got Nevermind and then I bought bleach.
But bleach kicks ass.
It's really raw and it's really heavy and it's really cool.
The big one of the big songs off bleach is Love Buzz,
which of course is actually a cover, a shocking blue cover.
But songs that kind of became hits at some point about a girl.
Also, Mom and Dad went to a show.
No, that's on Incesticide.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That's not on Bleach.
That's on Incesticide.
So Incesticide came out between the two.
Right, right, right, right, right.
And that, by the way, that's great, too.
I think there's five Nirvana records.
Okay, I'll do this.
Let's do this, okay?
Bleach.
Yes.
Never Mind. Right. Incesticide. That's right. In Utero do this. Let's do this, okay? Bleach. Yes. Nevermind.
Right.
Incesticide. That's right.
In utero.
Correct.
And one more.
Hold on.
Well, there's the
Unplugged in New York.
That's the one.
But then there's
From the Muddy Banks
of the Wish.
Wow, that's...
But yeah, you're right.
So there's only
three technically.
Well, five.
I don't know what
they call incesticide.
That was an album.
I don't think so.
It was like B-Sides
and Rarities were
a thing in that era. Okay, but it wasn't officially an album. It was't think so. It was like B-Sides and Reddish were a thing in that era.
But it wasn't officially an album.
It was kind of like Guns N' Roses Lies.
An EP. Yeah. Yes. It was like Guns N' Roses Lies.
Right, right, right. But you're right about that song
where mom and dad
went to... Grandma
take me home. Grandma take me...
Floyd the Barber, I think, is another one.
And New Wave Pauly
and things like that. But a fucking great band.
Like, that's a band that was like a comet.
Like, here for a short time, but shone very, very brightly.
And Bleach fucking kills.
Like, Negative Creep is on Bleach.
And then About a Girl, that song became big from, I think,
MTV Unplugged.
Is that?
Or was it from the Muddy Banks and the Wish Car?
No, it was definitely the Unplugged. Is that? Or was it from the Muddy Banks of the Wish Car? No, it was definitely the Unplugged.
That was like their big...
All Apologies also was big from the Unplugged.
You're right, you're right, you're right.
Yeah, All Apologies had a second life as that nice Unplugged song
because it was also in utero.
But yeah, All Apologies, I like the Unplugged version best.
You're right, you're right, you're right.
But good fucking big fucking band, Nirvana.
And I know this is not the grunge album,
but it's kind of tough to believe
when you think back that at 27 years old,
Kurt Cobain puts a bullet in his head.
And they say he took a shot of heroin or whatever
that was like a lethal dose.
And he still, I guess, maybe he was...
Maybe his body had acclimatized itself
to heavy heroin use or something,
but he was still able to pull the trigger.
Unless you believe conspiracy theories. Do you?
Well, I don't know. I mean, according to what I
remember, like, you know, I used to
watch those shows and whatnot.
He would have had to, like, pull the trigger with his toe
or something like that to get that shot off.
And he's on heroin
like that would, like, put most people
in a coma. I read a book, I think
it was Christopher Cross, I think his name was,
wrote a book, Heavier Than Heaven.
Christopher Cross, like my Christopher Cross?
Yeah, who wrote Heavier Than Heaven?
Hold on, I've got to Google this.
I think it was Sailing Christopher Cross, like Rise Like the Wind.
No, it wasn't him.
It wasn't him.
Heavier Than Heaven.
Oh, Charles Cross.
Thank you, Casey.
Yeah, Jesus, man.
I'm thinking of Yacht Rock always.
But Charles Cross wrote a book called Heavier Than Heaven, which I read.
And he kind of convinced me that it was suicide.
So, again, you know, it's one of those things.
I mean, likely, usually the most obvious thing is what happens.
Oh, Occam's Razor.
That's Occam's Razor.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Occam's Razor is typically the most obvious answer is the correct answer.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's probably what happened.
But, you know, you pick anything apart and you can find bones.
And there's definitely some, like, Courtney Love weird kind of theories that are out there.
Not that I'm giving them, you know, vouching for those theories.
I'm just saying I've heard them.
And the suicide note, if you've probably seen it,
the style of handwriting seems to change.
There's a movie all about that.
This is ripe for conspiracy theories.
QAnon type stuff.
What is that?
Can you dumb that down?
What is that?
I kind of see references to it everywhere,
but I don't really feel like diving in. Do you know what that is? I do. What is it? It's of see references to it everywhere, but I kind of, too late, I don't really feel like diving in.
Do you know what that is?
I do.
What is it?
It's nothing you want to know about.
You're not sure?
Oh, I do know what it is.
Well, can you surmise it quickly? I need to know. source of this these theories on deep state cover-ups and pizzagate and you know obama's
a pedophile or whatever the theories that are that are going around and it's done anonymously
so q anon is uh is sort of uh that's what it is it's turned and people believe this oh yes it's
turned into quite a massive do you think do you think that people have got dumber or is it just
we know about it now because of social media? Well, I think that, you know, the political climate has changed so drastically in the last four years, even more than four years, but specifically in the last four years that people are grasping onto straws on both sides trying to discredit the other side.
Do you think it's, is this indicative of a mental illness?
No, I don't.
Like those who believe in conspiracy.
Conspiracy theories are not new, Mike.
No, I mean, I've heard about JFK.
People love this stuff, so
there's no reason why that wouldn't
continue. This is just a different brand
name, but the same thing. Like,
Paul McCartney is dead.
That's a conspiracy
theory. 9-11 was like
done by the government.
These are all sorts of conspiracy theories that float around, and some a conspiracy theory. 9-11 was done by the government. Right. Inside job.
These are all sorts of conspiracy theories that float around and some are more believable
than others. But some are seen more harmless than others.
I guess that's what gets me because I've heard
people tell me that
Sandy Hook never happened. Right. So that's
silly. And I want to vomit. Yeah.
But listen, maybe we're wrong.
Maybe we're the ones wrong and they're the ones right.
Who knows? Well, on that note, here's the jam we both picked. I'm not the ones wrong and they're the ones right. Who knows?
Well, on that note, here's the jam we both picked.
I'm not saying that they're bad people.
I'm saying that conspiracy theories and the appetite for conspiracy theories. Well, they can be bad people.
Well, sure, but the-
Some conspiracy theories are bad.
There is an appetite for this type of content,
and it's since the beginning of time.
I miss the old days when the conspiracy theory were that
there's aliens amongst us.
That seems kind of-
Well, now it's true.
Now there's verifiable UFOs.
Well, UFOs are not aliens. There's unidentified
viable objects.
Well, I saw Starman.
I liked Starman, yeah. Mac and me.
Right. That was a McDonald's ad.
An E.T. ripoff for
McDonald's. My brother really liked Mac
and me, so he was a big fan.
People love conspiracy theories, Mike.
They're just feeding that need.
It's a supply and demand situation.
There is a demand, and the QAnon
are supplying, so God bless them.
All right. Well, you can God bless them.
Our fathers who aren't in heaven.
I do know the words because I was
brainwashed as a child, so it's tough
to shake. Here's a jam I love.
Glad you picked it. Here we go. Thank you. Oh, wow, man.
That's a good one.
Wait a second, man.
What do you think the teacher's going to look like this year?
Oh, yeah. Oh yeah T-T-Teacher stop that screaming
Teacher don't you see
Don't wanna be no uptown fool
Maybe I should go now
But I'm doing well
Teacher needs to see me after school
I think of all the education that I missed
But that my homework was never quite like this.
Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad.
I'm a teacher.
Hot for teacher.
Yeah.
Hot for teacher Van Halen.
Woo.
Boy, that hits. David Lee Roth. Hot for Teacher, Van Halen. Woo! Boy, that hits.
David Lee Roth.
Hot for Teacher.
Lots to talk about here.
Good segue from my last choice, which is The Police Don't Stand So Close To Me.
This is sort of the opposite story.
Now you got a guy who's hot for his teacher.
The music video, iconically, if you don't remember this music video,
then you ain't living, man.
And I just want to say,
being hot for your teacher, very normal.
Sure, I guess.
Unlike the Sting one, which is
disturbing. Hot for Teacher is
a song by Van Halen
from their sixth album,
1984.
Written by Eddie, Alex, Mike,
and David Lee Roth.
The whole band wrote the song.
It was the fourth and final single from the album 1984.
And it was, are you ready for this?
Much like that police don't stand so close to me 86.
The final single released by Van Halen's original lineup.
That's unbelievable.
The, yeah, the vintage classic David Lee
Roth, pre-Sammy Hagar
and Gary Cherone and everybody else who
had a role there. Amazing. The lyrics describe
a young man's infatuation with his attractive
female school teacher with a double
entendre, perhaps implying
a sexual encounter, Mike.
Quote, I think of all the education
that I missed, but then my homework was never
quite like this.
Do you remember being hot for teacher?
Of course.
Yeah, me too.
The Parents Music Resource Center,
the same organization that may have had problems with high school confidential,
protested this song due to its sexually suggestive lyrics
and music video.
Fun fact about the music video,
Phil Hartman was the voice of Waldo In the music video
The nerd
You know he did the
He used to design like logos and stuff
Yeah so Phil Hartman
Back in the day
And of course we all saw him
For the first time on Pee Wee's Playhouse
Sure and of course Saturday Night Live
Well yeah
And then Saturday Night Live
Of course
Of course
And Lionel Hutz
He was the voice here
Are you ready for your mind to be blown, Mike?
And I think I've talked about this before,
but the producer of the song
is a gentleman by the name of Ted Templeman.
And if you're not familiar with his work,
then you must have not been listening
to the Yacht Rock episode.
Okay, he is a member.
Don't tell me he's Toto.
No, he is the producer
of the Doobie Brothers
What a Fool Believes.
Same producer
as Van Halen's
Hockford teacher and
of course it's been established, I believe
I told you this last week or the week before
Michael McDonald of course did some writing
on the Van Halen 1984 album.
So, Yacht Rock Roots Van Halen, specifically today's school jam.
Hot for teacher.
Same producer of the What a Fool Believes, which is the greatest Yacht Rock song.
Yeah, number one with a bullet.
And was he at all responsible for the doobie bounce?
He was.
Which is everything in Yacht Rock.
He also produced all of the Van Halen,
David Lee Roth records.
So that would be his sixth.
Panama.
Yeah, all of it.
This guy produced all of it.
You know, a lot of people were upset last week.
We never played, is it Eruption?
Yes.
Yeah.
I guess there were some obvious,
but I like the fact that we all pick our own five.
Listen, it's funny because you missed Van Halen,
but here they are.
They show up the next week.
Fucking right.
Back to school.
Hot for teacher.
I still remember the teachers I was hot for.
Amazing.
Was it like Kelly LeBrock looking kind of lady?
Oh, yeah, from Weird Science?
I feel like she takes her hair down in the video.
She's got it up and it's one of those first times you see that.
It's almost like Tonya Catan or whatever.
Am I wrong?
Yeah, that's the white snake.
White snake, yes.
Yes, that was a white snake.
Cherry pie or?
No, that's warrant.
But you're right.
I think David Cloverdale
from White Snake.
From Cloverdale Page.
They're redeveloping
the Cloverdale Mall,
which is the big news
because that's a wonderful
home hardware
they have in there.
Where's the Cloverdale Mall?
East Mall.
Is that near your Rogue Byway?
No, nowhere near the Rogue Byway.
By the way, when you pulled up to my house, as we speak, maybe it's over now, but when you arrived,
there was an active protest by local parents protesting against a proposed homeless shelter in the Rogue Byway.
Uh-oh.
And they were acting.
In fact, I was just before you pulled up in your luxurious.
Did you bring cans of soup?
Well, I was joking to my wife because I was going to start my own protest
across the street against people who are against helping homeless people.
Like, I'm going to start my own protest.
Seems like a really polarizing topic for sure.
I don't know that I want to be, whether I agree with it or not,
I don't know that I want to be at that protest.
I would not go to that protest.
I mean, I was invited and I'm not there.
I said, no, fuck that.
I'm not going to the protest.
It doesn't seem like the kind of cause you want to be the face of.
But there are a lot of people on this very street at that protest right now.
Well, they don't want the homeless shelter.
They don't want homeless people moving in their neighborhood.
Well, where should they go?
This is it.
Really, we should give homeless people homes.
Like, this is a progressive way.
You are a socialist Marxist.
Yeah, I'm getting there.
Ron Hawkins is turning me.
I'm totally turning into one.
How does that work?
You just give people homes?
It's not like they're getting homes.
They're not getting million-dollar homes.
They're getting their own.
What about a condo to start?
Like a small place to call their own.
Okay.
A step up.
Now, a lot of people who are homeless, as you know, are mentally ill.
You have to give them access to mental health care.
Right. And to me, them access to mental health care. Right.
And to me, a lot of it is that.
There's a lot of people who are homeless by choice
and they're mentally ill.
It's a really sad phenomenon.
It's completely sad.
And the whole idea that you would literally,
they have play cards.
Is that what they call play cards?
Placards.
Placards, even better.
They have placards.
I don't know what that word is.
I only ever see it spelled.
Placards.
And they're on the corner outside the Rogue Byway,
and they're actively protesting right now.
Okay.
I don't know that I want to be at that protest.
Well, maybe we'll go.
I told you, let's start our own protest.
Homelessness is a terrible, it's a terrible,
it's like a pandemic of sorts in its own way.
There's like, you know, you go to California,
it's out of control over there.
But you imagine, you know, when you go to sleep at night
and it's freezing outside or it's so hot outside
or it's pouring rain, you don't really think about it.
But there's people that don't even have that luxury
of having just something to protect them
from the weather even.
Right.
Which is why we have to, you know,
we're trying to not do what we used to do,
which is put all the shelters downtown.
We're trying to spread them out throughout this vast city.
And the city bought up the Rogue Byway and wants to put one in there.
And the neighborhood, a lot of people in the neighborhood, not everybody,
because Monica also wanted nothing to do with the protest,
but a lot of people in the neighborhood are actively, you know,
screaming and shouting, basically not in my backyard. Right backyard right essentially so lots of food for thought there shout out to
dan jeffrey who just tweeted in i don't think he's watching this live but he says uh i started
listening to toronto mike in the last six months or so great back catalog of interviews my favorites
being the sports radio people i listened to in my youth. Also, when he gets
someone like Dave Hodge to come in and
discuss his 10 favorite songs.
Shout out to Dan
Jeffrey. You're a good FOTM
there, buddy. Is he? No mention of
Pandemic Fridays.
I could do without it.
Would you go on the
Humble and Fred show next week and
talk about your new project and Pandemic Fridays?
I mean, you always ask me like during a broadcast.
I decided to wait until you had permission to, you know, celebrate.
Which I still don't have yet.
But what about next Thursday?
Probably.
Okay, well, we'll communicate.
I just want to put you on.
I'm trying to help you.
I will go on Humble and Fred.
I'm trying to help you.
In the month of September, I will go on Humble and Fred.
I just want to help you. I'm committing to that you. In the month of September, I will go on Humble and Fred. I just want to help you.
I'm committing to that.
If they'll have me, that would be my honor.
You ready for me to kick out a great jam?
Sure.
No, I don't care.
Hey, I got Penny.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Good one.
Fucking love this song.
Hey, hey. Knowing the situation only makes it worse Tell him honestly, simply, kindly, but firmly Don't make a big production Don't make up a elaborate story
This will help you avoid a big tear-jerking scene
If you want to date other people, say so
Be prepared for the boy to feel hurt and rejected
Even if you've gone together for only a short time
And haven't been too serious
There's still a feeling of rejection
When someone says she prefers the company of others
To your exclusive company
But if you're honest and direct, and avoid making a flowery emotional speech when you break the news,
the boy will respect you for your frankness, and honestly, he'll appreciate the kind of straightforward manner in which you told him your decision.
Unless he's a real jerk or a crybaby, you'll remain friends.
I'm popular.
I'm popular.
I'm a quarterback.
I'm popular.
My boss says I'm a catch. I'm popular. My boss says I'm a catch.
I'm popular.
I'm never last picked.
I got a dream chick.
Being attractive is the most important thing.
I fucking love this song.
Like, I've always dug this jam.
This is by far Nataserv's biggest hit.
If it sounds like
a Weezer song to you, that's
not a coincidence. Okay, hold on.
Because it sounds like the Sweater song
Come Undone. Yes.
Because there's a little talking at the beginning
and then they come in with kind of those crunchy guitars
there. Tell me why it's not a coincidence.
Well, Rick Ocasek, the same producer
as the Weezer Blue album, produced this.
Obviously the late, former member
of the Cars. Yes.
One of the best pop rock
producers there is.
Rick Ocasek, responsible
for Weezer and, of course, Not A Surf.
Okay, and
I hope I'm not alone in this, that
this is the only Not A Surf song I know.
Yeah. Well, they have a whole career.
I believe they have a whole career, but they have one hit.
Yeah, yeah.
And I instantly liked it and always liked it.
Good music video, too.
And this predates the Sweater song, but when the Sweater song hit,
and then I ran out and bought the Blue album or whatever,
Weezer, absolutely lots of parallels.
Even, you know what else?
Brand Van 3000
Drinking in LA
Like all these songs
Of like little chit chat
Off the top
Like you hear
Like young people talking
Cause they do that
At the beginning of
Drinking in LA
Like
Yeah
Stereo mic
Or whatever it was
Do you have fun facts on this
Cause I'm finding some for you
If you don't
Okay no go ahead
Go ahead
The whole song Except for the chorus are just him reading from a 1964 teen advice book
called Penny's Guide to Teenage Charm and Popularity
written by television actress Gloria Winters.
Right.
Matthew Cosby is just reading that.
He's basically reading that.
Right. Right.
Right.
No, I did catch that on the Wikipedia page.
Oh, you did?
Well, yeah, I'm staring at the Wikipedia page.
Number one in Iceland.
Wow.
They have good taste in Iceland.
They have the sugar cubes there, you know.
But it sounds like,
and I don't know much about Nata Surf,
but it sounds like their career after this sounds different than that song.
So that this song kind of sticks out as like stylistically different from the bulk of their catalog.
This is like Rico Kasich, like Weezer sort of formula song.
I love that Weezer blue album, by the way.
That's a listen through.
Honestly, I love it very much.
It's only 30 minutes long or something.
You can like get through it. My name is is wakefield you can get through it pretty quickly
and i like a say it ain't so is on there and the whole thing is really good start to finish not a
bad song on there but popular that's a great high school jam uh fantastic i can't believe how close
we are to the end should we check in on the Raptors here real quick here? So we're two hours deep here.
Okay, let me just see.
Do you have a score?
44 to 37.
Oh, fuck.
We're losing.
It's okay, though.
Because I have 39 to 47.
What did you have?
Wait, you have 39 to 47?
Yeah, for the Celtics.
But all I did was look at Google.
39 to 47 for the Celtics?
Well, 47 to 37.
Yeah, the Celtics up 47-39.
What do you have?
I have 44-37, so you're ahead of me now.
I'm ahead of you now, but that's an eight-point spread there.
It's a must-win game for these raps.
Not really, but kind of.
By the time people hear this, this game is yesterday,
so stop checking in.
Okay, thanks.
It's Toronto Stew.
Okay, Stew the Jew.
Are you ready?
That sounds really inappropriate.
Are you ready for a jam?
Okay, I know what we're doing here.
Is this a bonus jam?
We're going to kick out your jam, and then you're going to hit us with a bonus jam.
You ready?
Wait, no, no.
Hold on.
Is this song 15, or is this my song one?
This is the song.
Should you not do the extra song now before we do our number ones?
You want to do the extra song now before our number ones?
No, not like my mind blow.
I'm saying there's a 15th song.
What is this?
Oh, okay.
This is your bonus song, right?
Because we had to get to 15.
So this is like a bonus.
So this isn't Young MC
off to the principal's office. I go.
Oh, I thought about it, though.
I considered it. Lots to
consider. This isn't Rock Lobster?
Here's a couple that didn't make it that
were obvious. I think the Hanson,
I think the song that was Hanson.
Hanson always gets Hanson'd. I think the
song that was Hanson'd is Alice Cooper's
School's Out. Yeah, School's Out for Summer.
I didn't like it because it was School's Out.
Oh, this is Jimmy Hart.
Yeah, you picked it.
Yeah.
This is great.
We hate school, but we love rock and roll.
We hate school.
We hate school.
Rock and roll.
The mouth of the south.
We hate school.
Jimmy Hart. Professional school. Jimmy Hart.
We hate school.
Professional wrestler.
Jimmy Hart.
Professional wrestling manager.
Jimmy Hart.
The mouth of the south.
Eat your heart out, Rick Springfield.
Eat your heart out, Rick Springfield.
This is from the same album.
I knew he had a great musical background, but give me a little bit of the fun facts.
The Jimmy Hart album.
He was in a band back in the day.
I want to say that I don't want to mistake
this. I swear.
Let me find out what the name of the band is because I don't want
to say this wrong. Jimmy Hart's
music career. Let's find out
what we can find out. Yeah, I do know he had
before the wrestling. The Gentries
was the name of his band. Keep On Dancing
was their big hit song.
And of course, Jimmy Hart
was responsible for a lot of WWF and WCW legendary theme songs that he penned throughout the years.
Sexy Boy, Shawn Michaels, I'm just a sexy boy.
Sexy boy.
Along with this one here, We Hate School, Rock and Roll from the Jimmy Hart album.
So thank you for including Jimmy Hart
because that gets us to 15.
We each have one jam to go,
but we each have a...
This one's for Cam.
...a mind blow at the end.
This one is for Cam.
Do you miss your wrestling buddy, Cam?
I do because I know Cam
would absolutely love this selection.
Well, he might be driving home
from the cottage with Fitzy
listening to Pandemic Friday.
Rock and roll!
We hate school.
We hate
school.
Anyway,
they're just joining us. That's Jimmy Hart,
the mouth of the South. We hate school
from the album, the Jimmy Hart album,
which came out originally early in the 80s. the mouth of the South, We Hate School from the album, the Jimmy Hart album.
Which came out originally early in the 80s
and then the wrestling album came out. It was so
popular that Vince McMahon repackaged
the Jimmy Hart album and put it out
with the WWF kind of sticker on it
and it was a whole new world
for Jimmy Hart. Always marketing that
Vince McMahon there. I want to shout
out the episode i recorded
earlier today because dr liza came over oh yeah dr liza uh who i wasn't too familiar with because
she's uh she's an osteopath who appears on like breakfast television i need her to help me with
my posture yeah that's what she does i need her to help me she can do that she has a clinic and
she also designs a promo code i don't know she's has a clinic and she also designs... Is there a promo code? I don't know.
She's not a sponsor but she was a guest.
But what was fascinating
and I mean this,
we spent over an hour
talking about her experience
as a black woman.
Yes.
Something you don't know about.
No.
And I don't know about.
No.
But she knows about
and she was very detailed
going through
all the experiences
in her life.
And it runs the gamut.
She talks about what it's like to fly first class on Air Canada as a black woman.
She talks about her son in Montessori school, what happened with him as a black boy.
She talked about shopping for luxurious handbags.
These don't sound like they're going to be pleasant stories.
They're not pleasant stories,
but shopping for fashion in Toronto as a black woman.
I'm sorry to hear that.
It's really, really eye-opening.
It sounds heartbreaking.
It really is.
And ready for this?
There's a story in there about her father getting this surgery,
and she warns her father because she's an osteopath,
so she's Dr. L osteopath so she's dr liza and she says as a black man you will die if uh in the hospital if you get the surgery like she warns
him and he's like no because he's got i can't remember what he had what his condition was that
he needed some surgery but she didn't think he needed the surgery a long story short is he did
die and she's 100 convinced that if he was a black if he was a white man he'd be alive today what was
the surgery i fucking can't remember now man uh it was a white man, he'd be alive today. What was the surgery?
I fucking can't remember now, man.
It was a whole six hours ago.
But these things were coming at me, and I was absorbing them and trying to think.
Like little things, like her husband who drives a luxurious automobile because he's a successful CFO or something.
But he's a black man and being pulled over by the cops
because black men driving luxury automobiles apparently attracts police pullovers.
Something you and I, have you ever been pulled over for like no reason?
No, I've been pulled over and I've had situations.
But I've also been pulled over in Los Angeles with friends that are African American
in the car with me and it was a whole other situation.
So I've experienced that for sure.
It's scary.
Do you ever get pulled over for no reason if you're when i was younger i used to get pulled over all the time for no reason because i was so short and so young looking people thought
i was like stealing my parents car all the time one time i went for lunch i can't had to have
been there but we drove you know off campus to go get like subway sandwiches or something
and like four unmarked cars like circled us and forced us out of the car.
Cause you look like you're a 14 year old.
They thought that I'd stole the car.
Wow.
That happened a lot to me.
So this happens,
this happens to,
uh,
when,
uh,
when Dr.
Liza and her husband are in,
uh,
I don't know what their luxury automobile is,
but basically this is a very,
I just listened to these stories and there are people who doubt that,
you know,
systemic racism exists.
Oh, it doesn't actually exist.
Oh, my goodness.
They're wrong.
So I'm going to highly recommend
listen to Dr. Liza on Toronto Mic.
It was recorded earlier today,
so that makes it episode 715.
I think we're doing 716 right now.
And, of course, 5747 halftime for yesterday's game,
if you're listening to this on Friday at halftime.
Halftime yesterday wraps down 10 at halftime for yesterday's game, if you're listening to this on Friday at halftime. Halftime yesterday wraps down 10 at halftime.
Not good.
I will say this.
We're the 2019 champions,
and they can never take that away from us.
Never.
You ready for your final jam,
and then we'll do a little mind blow.
Sure.
A mind blow that won't be a mind blow to anybody.
But anyway, that'll tie in nicely to the Ramones ramones movie uh rock and roll high school so here we go
hey
oh no so where is it jimmy i swear a dog ran off with it Hey! Oh, no.
So where is it, Jimmy?
I swear a dog ran off with it.
To the principal's office.
Back again, huh, Jimmy?
But a dog really did run off with it.
You're just never able to see our side of things, are you?
Bend over!
Your side of it. I wish somebody could see my side of it. It's even half of those days when everyone's on your case from your teacher all the way down to your best girlfriend.
Well, you know, I used to have just about all the time.
But I found a way to get out of it.
Let me tell you about it.
I'm sitting in a classroom thinking it's a drag.
Listening to the teacher rap just in my bag. By the two-bail spring, you know it's my cue.
I'm gonna meet the boys on floor number two. Smoking in the boys' room. Very like Van Halen, like that part.
No doubt.
And can you please remind me, what came out first, this song or Home Sweet Home?
Is it this song?
Yes.
I feel like this is the first time
I heard a Motley Crue song.
Yeah.
Well, there was
Too Young for Love,
which is a MTV video.
But let me take you
through this, folks.
Yes, please.
Smokin' in the Boys' Room,
Motley Crue.
You hear him singing it?
Oh, I have to turn it up
for that.
Hold on
I'll teach you
Don't you feel me
Up with your rules
Cause everybody knows
That smoking ain't allowed in school
Smoking's still not allowed in school
I can't ever hit that low note
That low voice there
That guy's got
This song was released
As a single
Smoking in the boys room
It reached number 16
On the US Billboard Hot 100 And became Motley Crue's first top 40 hit,
which would explain why this was your first interaction with them.
It's the first interaction I had with Motley Crue was this song.
Which at first, and I mean, I don't want to spoil any fun facts here,
but at first I really was sure this was an original Motley Crue song.
I believe this song appears in the 1986 film The Wrath, if I'm saying it correctly.
There is a Leigh-Anne Rimes version of the song, by the way.
Oh, my God.
Leigh-Anne Rimes sang Smokin' in the Boys' Room.
Of course, Motley Crue, if you're not familiar, they are rock and roll, baby.
Before Guns N' Roses, there was Motley Crue.
Motley Crue, an American heavy metal band formed in Los Angeles in 1981.
Founded by Nikki Sixx, Tommy Lee, Mick Mars, Vince Neil.
Motley Crue has sold over, ready for this, 100 million albums worldwide.
Move over, Dr. Liza.
We have Dr. Feelgood here.
They have a Netflix movie called The Dirt, which is decent.
Vince, Neil, and Tommy Lee and Nikki Sixx all had sex tapes.
Tommy Lee.
I believe that.
Obviously the famous Pamela.
Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee, but Vince Neil had.
On a boat, right?
That's on a boat?
Too Fast for Love, Shout at the Devil, Theater of Pain, Girls, Girls, Girls, Dr. Feelgood.
Quite the catalog.
Of course, they were slated to get back together this year to tour, but that didn't happen.
After doing what, you know, they're kind of pulling a kiss now.
Sort of pulling a share in Elton John, if you will.
They've had their, like, farewell tour already, like, 20 times.
But they're saying farewell again.
But they did that first, didn't they?
Yeah, I think that Motley Crue has rescheduled.
It's Def Leppard.
Motley Crue will be touring, have no fear, folks, next summer.
So if you bought tickets for the Motley Crue Def Leppard Stadium Tour,
have no fear.
Smoking will be allowed in the boys' room at that show next year.
Don't go away mad.
Just go away.
Very Van Halen-ish
by the way.
This whole song has such a Van Halen
rip-off to it, in my opinion.
Even the ending
there. Do you want to introduce the
not-so-mind-blow? This is not such a mind-blow,
but did you know, folks, for some of you
younger listeners, Motley Crue,
it's Smoking in the Boys' Room, their first American Top 40 hit,
is actually not their song.
What?
Would you be surprised to know that Brownsville Station
put out the song in 1973?
And this song appeared on the Rock and Roll High School soundtrack
that the Ramones were on.
Let's check it out.
How you doing out there?
You ever seen one of those days where it just seems like
everybody's getting on your case from your teacher
all the way down to your best girlfriend?
Well, you know, I used to have them just about all the time.
But I found a way to get out of it.
Let me tell you about it.
Sitting in the classroom thinking it's a drag.
It's the same song.
Just ain't my bag.
New bells ring.
You know that's my cue.
I'm gonna meet the boys on floor number two.
Smokin' in the boys' room.
Smokin' in the boys' room.
Now, teacher, don't you feel me?
Up with your rules.
Everybody knows that smokin' ain't allowed in school.
There you go.
Smokin' in the boys' room. Brownsville Station reached number three in Canada.
And on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 reached number three.
Look at that big number three song.
Wow.
The song is obviously about students hoping to avoid being caught violating their school's smoking ban by smoking cigarettes in the boys' restroom.
So, there you go.
I have counted down seven and a half songs for you relating to school,
and Smokin' in the Boys' Room was the one that I could find a mind blow for,
so it was my number one selection.
And everybody knows, Mike, smokin' ain't allowed in school.
I have a bit of a mind blow in my final jam.
Can't wait.
That ties into a bit of a stewstone histography.
Uh-oh.
Is that a word?
Here, let's start a jam that I'm kicking out.
Ah.
Is it about school?
Yes, I believe it is about school.
You believe it is?
Yeah.
All around me are familiar faces. Worn out places. Could be. believe it is? Yeah.
Could be. No expression, no expression Out my head I want to drown my sorrow
The tomorrow, the tomorrow
And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had
I find it hard to tell you cause I find it hard to take So this is a tears for fear song.
What does this have to do with school though?
It's about school.
I'm not finding that anywhere I'm looking.
So where are you seeing that?
What's your source?
I'd hate for you to blow your Cal Ripken-esque streak of a flawless selection
with a song that's so close to my heart, obviously.
Well, obviously, this is why I picked it.
What's this got to do with school?
I was turned on to the fact this is about high school.
By who?
By a movie I saw called Donnie Darko.
This great film called Donnie Darko.
And if you bear with me here, let's listen to a bit.
Hold on. if you bear with me here, let's listen to a bit hold on Cambrio's already given you the victory
so
goes without saying
no pun intended but shout out to
Tears for Fears
for this great song.
This was on that great album.
It was a song from The Big Chair.
It had Shout,
and it had
Everybody Wants to Rule the World.
It was a monster,
a monster album.
Now, I'm wondering, Stu,
as a co-star of
Donnie Darko, are you aware
of the history of the cover?
What do you know about
the history of the Mad World cover?
What can you
tell me about it?
Alright, let me tell you
a little bit about this in my homework.
The song has nothing to do with school, by the way.
You totally shit the bed here. Yeah, I saw it in Donnie Darko.
The way it was used in Donnie Darko.
It clearly has something to do with school.
What part of Donnie Darko did it involve school?
There wasn't even a school moment
in the scene where this song played.
So what happened was...
I like the song, but you have definitely blown your record.
Can you at least acknowledge that you're going to have to start from scratch, like the first
day of school.
Fresh start, clean slate next week, because you've blown it here.
You have blown it here, Mike.
Three hours into this broadcast.
Come on, don't give Cambrio any more ammunition here.
So Michael Andrews, you know Michael know michael and of course okay so he apparently was school boy uh school school chum with a
gentleman named gary jules yes so they were friends since they were kids and they they both
loved like english bands of the 80s and they kind of played music together for years and then andrews got the donnie
darko gig and he enlisted jewels to sing mad world and he um basically uh andrews on piano
jewels on vocals they banged out a version in about 90 minutes but they had because they had
such a small budget so andrews couldn't record like a glossier version of it even if he wanted to
uh he played every instrument on
the score but he didn't have the money to hire any because he didn't have the money to hire anybody
um so basically it's like a really stripped down bike it's almost like necessity being the mother
of invention so donnie darko uh has a very stripped down mad world uh down to its elements
if you will by michael Andrews and Gary Jules.
And it perfectly captures the film's mood.
I'm just going to play the,
this is not such a mind-blowing fact,
but here is that Gary Jules version
of Mad World from Donnie Dark.
Again, nothing to do with school.
Beautiful rendition, though.
I try to bring it all back to you students
I appreciate it
I played a school student in the movie
Right
Thank you
Drew Barrymore played my teacher
Hot for teacher Bright and early for their daily races Going nowhere, going nowhere
Their tears are filling up their glasses
No expression, no expression
Hide my head, i wanna drown my sorrow no tomorrow no tomorrow
and i find it kind of funny i find it kind of sad the dreams in which i'm dying are the best I've ever had.
I find it hard to tell you.
I find it hard to take.
When people run in circles, it's a very, very bad world.
Haunting.
Yeah, beautiful cover.
Haunting cover, like you said, Stu.
And, you know, yeah, like, I didn't source.
I was very busy this week.
I was camping and everything.
And I kind of felt it had a school vibe to it.
I don't know where I got turned around.
So I really just wanted to bring it back to Donnie Darko because I started off by showing the Darko.
I see what you did there.
I will say that something really cool about this song.
Yeah, go ahead.
And then I'm going to play a bonus song.
In the UK, the big thing for songs on the radio and whatnot is like what's going to
be the number one song on Christmas.
Yes, big deal in the UK.
You're absolutely right.
That is like the biggest deal.
I know about this.
Yes.
Big fucking deal.
And in 2003, this song was number one in the UK on Christmas.
Yeah, that is a huge, huge deal.
It was number one on Christmas Day in the States. I mean in the UK. Sorry, in the UK. So this was a huge hit in the UK on Christmas. Yeah, that is a huge, huge deal was number one on Christmas Day in the States.
I mean, in the UK.
Sorry, in the UK.
So this was a huge hit in the UK.
Did not perform in the States,
but either did the movie until after the DVD.
Gary Jules, a friend of mine on Facebook.
It's great to learn.
Because knowledge is power.
It's Schoolhouse Rocky, a tip off the block.
All your favorite schoolhouse, schoolhouse rock.
I'm just a bill.
Ah.
Gotta send this to the POTUS so he can...
Fuck the POTUS.
You sure gotta climb a lot of steps to get to this Capitol Hill.
You're friends with Gary Jules on Facebook?
I am.
But I wonder who that sad little scrap of paper is.
Well, call him up and ask him if it's about school.
It's not.
I'm just a bill.
Yes, I'm only a bill. Now, this guy who's singing here did pass away in the last year. And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill. We'll call him up and ask him if it's about school. It's not.
Now, this guy who's singing here did pass away in the last year.
I forget his name.
Take that up at 1236.
Yeah, well, we already did.
That's where I learned about it, actually.
So here, I'm just playing a little schoolhouse rock. And, Stu, I know your BFF Cam Gordon wasn't here,
but I had a good time chatting with you tonight, man.
Yeah, it was good.
It was easy.
It was fun. And, you know And I look forward to doing it again.
There will be Friday episodes as long as we're breathing
because between Cam, myself, and you, well, you're the one that needs to be there.
As long as you are here, one of us or both of us will be here.
So fret not, fans of the show.
Going back to school. For those of you going back to school, do so safely and good luck.
And I hope that you have a great school year.
I'm sad that I'm old and I don't get to go back to school,
but I really do miss those days so much.
I wish that someone out there could invent a time machine.
Let's go back to school together.
I'll take Austin Keitner with me.
And Barb Paluskiewicz.
And Barb Paluskiewicz.
Some great
FOTMs right there. At Stu Stone,
at Toronto Mike, at Cam
Gordon, Pandemic Friday, Back to
School episode is done.
And that
brings us to the end of our
716th
show. You can follow me on
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