Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Barney Bentall: Toronto Mike'd #1149

Episode Date: November 11, 2022

In this 1149th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike bikes his studio to Glenn Gould Studio and chats with Barney Bentall about being the son of a preacher man, how Something To Live For changed everything, and what he's up to now with The Legendary Hearts. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are Open, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Hello, how are you doing? Good, I'm going to look at you through this mirror here. Okay, perfect. That's a good way to do it. I just realized. I guess it looks like that way it would appear like we're across the table. Exactly. During the interview.

So let's paint a little picture for the FOTMs listening. We are in the, like a back room. When you're a big star like Barney Bentall, they give you a walk-in closet, I think. But we're at the Glenn Gould studio. And tell us, what are you doing here tonight? We are here with our touring, I guess it's a bit of a variety show, the Caribou Express. We've been doing it for over 15 years in order to raise funds for, at this point,

to this point in West for Western Canadian charities. But now we're coming out to Toronto, which is thoroughly exciting for us. Amazing. And you've given back to your community. That makes complete sense because, you know, as Dusty Springfield would say, you're the son of a preacher,

man. Shout out to Dusty Springfield. Yeah, I know. No kidding. Isn't she the best? I had Carol Pope on man. Shout out to Dusty Springfield. Yeah, I know. No kidding. Isn't she the best? I had Carol Pope on. We had some great Dusty Springfield stories from Carol.

But you are the son of a... Yeah. Well, they were lovers. Oh, they were. Yeah. So when Dusty passed away, I think the story Carol told me was she was drinking with the Pet Shop Boys all night just sharing great stories about Dusty Springfield. Oh, wow.

That's pretty amazing. That's very cool. You're a son of a Baptist minister. Correct. And you grew up out west, right? Whereabouts did you grow up? I grew up in Calgary. I was born in Toronto, but grew up in Calgary.

My dad was the minister for First Baptist Church, or no, Walmer Road Baptist Church here in Toronto. I don't know if it's condos now. Probably. It's near Bloor Street. And then he moved, I guess, when I was about three, to Calgary. That's where I really grew up. But then when I decided to pursue music,

I had headed out to Vancouver. Okay, and that explains this relationship of Bryan Adams because I see that you opened for Bryan Adams on the famous Cuts Like a Knife tour in 1983. Man, how did you find that out? Oh, come on. Toronto Mike, we do crack research here. That is amazing.

Let me turn this off. Turn that off. Yeah. And did you have a message for your road manager, Glenn, here? Because I don't mind if you want to yell it out the side of your mouth there. Well, hi, Glenn. I guess they got it in control. They need another amp.

Does Glenn know there's no cameras on us? Because he's doing the poses back there. Yeah. So that's under, you've got that looked after. Thanks, Glenn. Okay, Glenn. Take care, everybody. Glenn's a good guy.

He said, just set up here. And I'm like, okay, I just need like somewhere to plug in. And then I found a plug. That's a really great story because he's retired. Glenn? Yeah, he was an executive in a company. And we've known each other since, well, it goes back to full circle of the church conversation. Because we met in Sunday school.

We were about five years old. Get out of here. So we've known each other for that long. And he loves music and he's been, you know, such a good friend. And he, at a certain point, he was retired and I went, you wouldn't want to come and help on this thing. And he said, absolutely. Oh, it's in his blood, right?

It's fantastic, yeah. That's like the Godfather 3, man. Every time he pulls away, they pull him right back. He was out and now he's back in. Yeah. A little bit of that. Totally. Any conflicts, like being the son of a Baptist minister and wanting to be like a rock and roll star? Any conflicts there? I think that it was not easy for my parents, for sure. I mean, so when, you know, and what we were doing back then, you know, you're playing in these seedy bars and clubs when you're trying to get started.

And I'm sure it wasn't, I know it wasn't easy, but we worked through that all. It took, you know, it took a few decades, but we sorted it out. So we're going to fast forward. you don't have a lot of time normally i say you know i need 90 minutes to tell the uh barney bento story but i know i wish we had more time but you got a hot like uh dinner date i was warned barney's got a dinner date don't don't barney don't get between barney and a good uh good dinner but we're gonna cut to this to this Brian Adams story quick.

So how do you end up opening for Brian Adams in 83? Well, we were, you know, it was a very much, it was a smaller music scene back then in Vancouver. So we all kind of knew each other. And of course, Brian sort of in some ways paved the way for us, you know, for us to dream big in that way, you know, to have, have, try and have success. I mean, he's probably the biggest thing, many ways to come out of Vancouver. He's the BFD. He's a big deal. Yeah, he is.

Totally. Do you need, do you need to pause here for a second? No, no, no. Keep rocking. I'm multi-passing. I'm good at that. And you're doing a good job at it. So we were asked by his manager, Bruce Allen,

and they were looking at managing me at the same time. So it seemed like it was a thrill, though, to all of a sudden play in an arena. Oh, my God, that was exciting. Well, tell me about it because 83, it sounds like you were maybe not quite big enough to get in on that tears are not enough action. Because Bruce Allen was the man. He was the man, yeah. But at that point I wasn't being managed by Bruce anymore.

So he probably wouldn't have had me. I started being managed by Bernie Finkelstein on True North. He's an FOTM like yourself. He's been over to the basement. I'm still working on Bruce Coburn coming on Toronto. Oh, really? He dangles out like a carrot over the last 10 years. You mean Bernie does?

Yeah. Yeah. He's like, one day, one day. So I'm going to play a jam here. The reason I'm multitasking, because I said, I got to get on this Glenn Gould Wi-Fi, because I want to play just a little bit of the song, because this is going to help explain something.

So just drink this in for like 30 seconds here, Barney. If I were a good DJ, I'd be talking up right to the post here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Absolutely. That's where the band name came from, is from that very record. We just, yeah, a huge Lou Reed fan. I mean, he challenges listeners and fans. You know, he did. Sadly missed. But just an iconic and groundbreaking artist.

So that's why we named the band that. Wow. Awesome, awesome, awesome. So who is Brandon Wolf? Well, maybe I maybe i should close that yeah it's up to you man i i can go either way but if it bothers you close that door oops um brandon wolf was you know i came from a a family that was fairly prominent in business and in churches out west and when we first started i just wanted to create a new identity so took that name that was um my name took on the name brandon wolf it was sort of a band name my

name and uh it was just provided some anonymity while we were while we were learning our craft and you're Brandon Wolf. I was back then. And then at a certain point, I was just like, okay. And plus, my name is just an unusual name for rock and roll. And you'd get teased with a name like Barney. And it was unfortunate timing because when we first started doing well and had songs on the radio, and I thought, wow, I'm trying to make the name Barney elevated in the cool scale.

And then, of course, Barney the Dinosaur came along, which was a bit of, you know, knocking you out at the knees. Well, you had Barney Fife. You had Barney Rubble. Yeah. You had Barney Gumbel from The Simpsons. Yeah, yeah. And then you had Barney the Dinosaur.

You're right. You're the coolest Barney Gumbel from the Simpsons. Yeah, yeah. And then you had Barney the Dinosaur. You're right. You're the coolest Barney I know. Well, a lot of people I knew did give me that compliment, but yeah. All right, so I'm thinking West Coast. We were talking about Bruce Allen, and there's Brian Adams. So growing up, this song seemed to be everywhere.

I was too young to understand CanCon rules and everything. I love this song. I was everywhere i was too young to understand cancon uh rules and everything but i love this song i was listening to it the other day and this is we were all working in in studios at the same time we would go in at night we'd record with bob rock who's one of the writers of this and jeffrey kelly is with us right now and we're all really good friends with Paul Hyde. Sadly, Paul won't. He's just too nervous and anxious to perform. But this is just such a it sounds so good. Well, take a moment, Barney. You're working hard here, buddy. Let's soak this in for a moment. To see if you're real Is it nothing but something I feel

Will my heart take the strain Or will it break down again It's like sense of danger Still sounds great. So your connection to the payolas here is that uh you cut some demos of bob rock uh yeah we did and um in fact bob did the first demo of something to live for and uh which you know became our first big single uh but yeah it's quite different when i can do dj in here it was quite different when his version i'd love to find I've been trying to find it lately. He kind of changed it a fair bit and then we just went,

ah, nah, you know, it's just got to be simple. And then we did that 12-string thing and away you go. This song changed everything for you. It did. All right, here we go. You should talk it up.

You know when the... Here we are. Something to live for Bobby drives a pickup For a corner store Four bucks an hour And he's hoping for more He's 20 inches old He still lives at home

Bobby's got ideas But he ain't alone There's a million Bobbies across this land. Everybody's got a living man. He's got something to live for. Something so real. He's got something to live for That one

Bertino Barney still sounds great, buddy. Sounds great. Thank you. Thank you. I used to hear this. I'm trying to remember where, but I'm sure,

so this was like a Q107 would play this all the time when I was of that age and much music I suppose but big hit yeah it definitely changed my life I mean I was really at a point where I thought I should probably quit because I had young

kids one of whom is playing with me tonight Dustin and then another daughter is playing with me out west when the tour continues. Amazing. I saw Dustin, by the way, years ago at Massey Hall opening for Blue Rodeo.

Oh, right. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. And I was going to ask you later, but I'm worried we're running out of time, but I had on the drummer, former manager of Spirit of the West, just like last month. Oh, you did? I have Vince on.

Yes, Vince is on. And the West, just like last month. Oh, you did have Vince on. Yes, Vince was on, and he takes credit for discovering Kendall Carson. Is that how you, is that accurate? I think she would have been discovered regardless of what Vince did. I remember Kendall playing with your boy that night, and they blew my mind. They were fantastic.

Yeah. She is, they are fantastic. I mean, they were a couple that are no longer together, which we very much miss Kendall. But they were just, I thought it was electric on stage. They were fantastic. I'm sorry to hear that. But I did see the Alan Doyle band open for Blue Rodeo

a couple of Augusts ago at Budweiser stage. And there she was again. I know. She's out with Alan all the time. So just fantastic artist. Amazing. So this song we're listening to right now, Something to Live For, your first big hit. You wrote this jam.

Who wrote this song? I wrote it with my buddy, Gary Fraser, who's now a very successful litigator. We grew up together as well. It's a little bit like my tour manager, Glenn. Gary and I knew each other since we were six or seven years old, and we loved music. He wasn't a player, but he's a writer. He wasn't a player, but he's a writer. And so we formed a songwriting partnership and decided to have a go at making in music.

And he would write the lyrics, I would write the music. Do you remember where you first heard this song on the radio? Yes, absolutely. Let me hear it. Oh my God, we finished the record. And I remember leaving the studio. It was produced by David Tickle at the Legendary Mushroom Studios in Vancouver.

And we left the studio and I put it in the car and I just thought, oh, this sucks. And then you get a bit of distance and then we released it. And we were all up on an island north of Vancouver at my in-law's cottage. of Vancouver at my in-laws cottage. Okay. We were rehearsing or playing, warming up or rehearsing at this club across the way where the Beachcombers were filmed. Awesome. And then all of a sudden we come back and the guy, like I came back in a boat with a

couple of the guys, but other members of the band were pulling speakers out and they go, here it is on CFOX. I knew it was going to be CFOX. And it was just like I heard the blasting there and I went, yeah, you know, this could work. And then everything really started changing with that. Wow. Okay.

Now, by any chance, do you know who the DJ was when it played? Do you have any idea? No, I don't. No. That would have been cool. That's the detail I'm here for. So I'm out of here, Barney. Peace out.

So, okay. So when you say like everything changed, like just be a little more specific. Like, is it just that now suddenly you could headline instead of open? Like what was the biggest change? I think you start touring incessantly and the pressure starts. And then you're all of a sudden away from home a lot too. You just have to go on the road.

then you're all of a sudden away from home a lot too. You just have to go on the road. I mean, we were a popular bar band for sure in Vancouver and all of a sudden we had to sort of, you know, improve and get better, but we had to tour. It was just incessant. I mean, any Canadian band will tell you that, you know, especially back in that era. And there was only, we all knew each other.

You know, that was the interesting part. Shout them out. Like when I think in that era. And there was only, we all knew each other. That was the interesting part. Shout him out. When I think of that era, now I'm thinking of, is it Northern Pikes? Are they in that group? Just tell me who you're talking about. Yeah, they were there, but Colin James? Colin James. He's been over. But in any

weekend, the odds were there. I mean, Craig Northey from The Odds was our guitar tech, our first guitar tech. Amazing. He does a lot of stuff with Stephen Page these days. Yeah, they're playing a lot. So, you know, in any given Friday, Saturday night in Gastown,

we'd be playing Katie Lang, we'd be playing Colin James, the Piolas. When does Spirit of the West show up? Well, we're all friends from way back. And then they were, we started being in music and then john man and jeffrey you know like there was theater connections with um our wives and uh and then they i produced and recorded their first record in my little sort of eight track studio and in a millwork shop. Let's just say I caught a glimpse of a set list.

Yeah. Spirit of the West. Yeah, I know. I know. It's great. I know. It's so nice to have because you really want the memory and the artistry of John Mann to continue on. Yes, sir.

Yeah. All right, before this song runs out, let's get a little taste of another Barney Bentall song Come back to me, another big hit. Yeah, it was a good two for that one on that record, boy. And that was the self-titled debut, right, in 88? Yeah. Okay, shout out to, yeah, that's amazing. Now, I'm going to burn through some questions that came in.

So I announced on Twitter that Barney Bentall was finally making his Toronto Mike debut. You were actually in my calendar before the pandemic. Eric Alper was going to drive you over to my basement studio. Oh, really? This was the plan. And then you had some other professional engagement you had to go to, and it got taken out of the calendar. So I'm glad we could finally hook up. Likewise, yeah.

Okay, Jerry the Garbage Man. Can you ask him why they dressed him in an eyepatch and pirate highwayman outfit in the video for Life Could Get Worse? Because we had Art Bergman in that one, and it was just like, you know, it was one of those things back, making videos was a lot of fun. And the director just said, let's put an eyepatch on. And we were kind of like, oh, that's kind of cool.

Nothing more than that. It does not have any greater significance than that. Talk to me about Art Bergman for a minute because he's been on the show, but he's coming back because Schneider, Jason Schneider wrote a book about him. And they're going to come on together and talk about this book. I'm really looking forward to it because Art Bergman's amazing.

I know. We were all, again, friends. We were all a little bit scared of Art. Sure. But we ended up recording him at certain points. And he came and played with the Caribou Express one time in Calgary. And it was pretty cool. He did a Graham Parsons song with my son Dustin.

Wow. It's coming to me which one we did. But I think he really struggles with arthritis. And he's, I don't know. He just lost the love of his life. Oh, did he? Yeah. This is since I had him on.

Oh, really? One thing I'll just say is that, so, you know, I did this on Zoom because he's in the middle of, I think he's in Saskatchewan. I don't know. No, he's just near Calgary as far as I know. Okay. Okay. So his wife handled everything, like all the tech and everything, made sure he was on it. Like he really

leaned on her and she died very suddenly about like 18 months ago or something really i did not know that oh sorry and actually i think he went i mean we're going to talk about it on toronto mike very soon but i think he had a rough go with this one like this was his his rock and uh she really was yeah for sure oh yeah okay yeah. So Don Landry writes in. Don Landry, by the way, hosted a morning show on the Fan 590 here in Toronto. So people know Landry,

him and Gord Stelic, who was the youngest general manager in NHL history for the Maple Leafs. Okay, this is going back. Don Landry says, ask him if he ever really did a head count on how many bobbies there are across the land.

I mean, a million? I am skeptical. Did you do a head count on how many bobbies there are across the land. I mean, a million? I am skeptical. Did you do a head count? We never did a head count. That's pretty funny. That's a good one. I remember one time this kind of psychotic guy came up after a show and he said, I really like that, so I'm going to live for it,

especially that there's a million bodies across this land. But we did never, I don't know why that's so funny, that story always stuck in the band. You know, things become part of band lore, really. Well, this one ties into it. So Brian M. writes in, and I'm going to read the whole thing

and then you can address it. But would you ask Barney about the original independent recording and video of Something to Live For? I am certain the song was first recorded and released by Barney on his own. After signing with Epic CBS, he re-recorded it, and the original was, I'm going to say deleted, because I don't know how to say that word.

This is what I recall, but it has been 30 years. The sound of this album is unique. It has atmosphere. I thought the producer was Glyn Jones, but a fast online search doesn't confirm. I will have to dig out the LP. Talk to Brian M., Mr. Bentall. I will.

The producer was David Tickle, who had just done Neruda with Tom Cochran, but had also just worked with Prince and Peter Gabriel. And he was an English guy, and he came over he was eccentric but but i thought he did a wonderful job on that record um and we indeed we'd done an original version of something left for bob rock and it had all this these weird changes in it and then we made it simpler we recorded the song in our studio where i did spirit of the west first record and we raised a bit of money uh uh made a video which i'd love

to see again he was and then i went out to toronto to try and get a record deal and because that that video was being played on much music, in a sort of medium rotation, I was able to see every record company. And it was from there that I managed to talk my way into a management deal with Bernie Finkelstein and then a record deal with Epic. At some point, though, actually, maybe before I get to the CBS, they drop you at some point.

Can you speak to the problems you might have had with CBS? Well, you know, CBS, they drop you at some point. Like, can you speak to the problems you might have had with CBS? Well, you know what? It was a case where, it's all history now, but there was a regime change. We got along so well at Sony and they were so supportive of us and there was a regime change

and there was a fight between my manager and the new head of it and I was kind of between my manager and the new head of it, and I was kind of caught in the crossfire. And so it became a sort of disillusioning point in time. And then about that time, I had bought a cattle ranch, and I think I just said, yeah, you know what? I'm going to step away for a bit. This is like 97 or something.

Yeah. And then, you know, like it was really weird timing because I said I'd like to leave the label and they said, okay. And so many of the rank and file on the label were so disappointed. They were, you know, just so upset that that happened. And then six weeks later,

my good friend Denise Donovan is hired as president. It's just, it's one of those timing things, you know, I, it, it, I don't,

I don't spend a lot of time looking back and going, Oh, I regret this or this sucks, you know, because I learned a lot about life having a cattle ranch and that sort of, and then it was really, I credit Jim Cuddy when, when, you know, about

2006, he said, you know, why don't you come make a record in Toronto? And that's what he did. And then I really started on my solo career at that time. But I mean, we still play as the Legendary Hearts, but just not as much. Well, now you got the best of both worlds, right? You can inspire others through your music. See what I did there, Barney? Inspire. Okay. See, it's true that David Tickley was very atmospheric.

He just created a beautiful soundscape. It was really nice. It's interesting that The bass player in this record After two records Went to play with the Piolas Or no, I know what it was He had played with the Piolas At the time of Eyes of a Str was. No, he had played with the Paolas at the

time of Eyes of a Stranger and then he came and played with us and then ended up joining the Blue Shadows. That's me more. It's like pop-up video.

I love it. Just drop the fun facts love it love it hey do you know right now where is your Juno award that you won in 1989 I do it's one thing I keep up in the house it's just it's just one little corner of the house it's a nice reminder been nominated for a few since including the

high bar gang our bluegrass band has been nominated for a few but yeah never managed High Bar Gang, our bluegrass band has been nominated for a few, but never managed to push it over the edge. Look, I'll make some calls, okay? Please do. That would be great.

I know people. Okay. And you know who knows people? Midtown Gord. Midtown Gord heard you were coming on and he says, can you ask Barney

about Dave Reimer? He is Lee Aaron's bassist and co-songwriter and apparently in the past he was in Barney's band. Oh, he was and still is. And I just talked to him this afternoon.

No, no, he's not. But he made my guitar and he made our bass player's bass. He's an amazing luthier. And he plays with Lee and he plays with me. And I love the guy. He's just the best. So still very good friends. Okay. Well, Midtown Gourd loves Lee Aaron. plays with me and and i love the guy he's just the best so still very good friends okay well

midtown gourd uh loves lee aaron like uh i mean anyway i don't know if lee aaron has like a uh is concerned about this it's quite the admiration for her i'm just kidding of course midtown gourd's a great guy but uh lee aaron was the name of the band yeah okay she's a karen and the band was lee Aaron. I know. I know. It's a little bit like Brandon Wolf. Yeah. I'm a Barney.

Or you know what it's like? It reminds me of Alice Cooper. Yeah. Alice Cooper was the band. Yeah. And then now he, Vincent Fournier becomes Alice Cooper. Hold on.

Let me take this in. I just wanted her to be my wife if it was wrong to love her. I can't say goodbye. All right. Burning through the final questions, and then we'll say goodbye. But is it true Rob Niedermeyer is your son-in-law? That is correct, yes. That's a fun fact. Yeah, that is a fun fact. Yeah, wonderful guy.

Yeah, so Scott Niedermeyer was drafted with the pick the Leafs had, and then they traded it away for Tom Kervers. So Scott Niedermeyer was almost a Maple Leaf, but we traded that pick because we're stupid. But Rob Niedermeyer. That's a pretty good example of some of the things that have happened in Toronto. Yeah, and then I guess he went to Jersey, right?

Yes. And then the two brothers played each other in the cup final. Maybe with the New Jersey and Anaheim. Yes. And then Scott, of course, went to Anaheim. And I think he's such an incredible leader. I think he wanted to have his brother win a cup. And that's what indeed they did.

Amazing. So we won't spend too much time on this because we're going to say goodbye because dinner is calling for Barney Bentall. But Tuesday noon, did want to hear more about May Moore. So I'm glad you mentioned May because he says they both were on heavy, much music rotation and the music still holds up. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah.

She was a friend and we, we recorded her first record. My guitar player, Colin Naren and myself, we produced it. And then she sang on, on, on with first and second record. And she's still, I think she lives on one of the Gulf Islands now. And she's still playing a bit of music. Okay. And now, this really is the last question. And then we'll say goodbye.

Because Tyler Campbell is a good guy. So he says, a comment question from Mr. Bentall. He says, I managed to get in, slightly underaged, to a great show he and the band played at the Penguin in Ottawa in the winter of 1993. He did a cover of You Can't Always Get What You Want that is the best I've ever heard next to the original. How did you end up working with Danny Korchmar on Lonely

Avenue? Well, I remember when we were playing Can't Always Get What You Want I just got asked to do it it's called Keithmas in Vancouver they do Keith Richards and Rolling Stone songs and I asked to do it's a key it's called keith miss keith miss uh in vancouver they do keith richards and rolling stone songs and i wanted to do that but it was taken already we used to do a killer version of that and i remember that i remember getting up on the tables walking over the tables in that at that gig it's funny how you can remember these things love it but um danny

korchmar they just when the American label wanted us to have, use an American producer, go figure. And they, and so I interviewed with some people and of course it was a big James Taylor fan and Danny Korchmar was such a charismatic guy. And so we did the second record with him. It was less,

it, when you, when we got in the trenches with him, it was, you know, I, I, I wasn't as impressed, you know, he was, you know, I wasn't as impressed. You know, he was a little hard to deal with. So that was a bit of a struggle for the second record,

but, you know, anyhow. Well, Barney, listen, good luck tonight. I heard some of that rehearsal. I snuck in and it sounded amazing. And enjoy your dinner. And thanks so much for this compliment. Lovely to chat with you. I love it when the questions are good. That's just, we spend a lot of time being interviewed,

and it's really nice when they're thoughtful. And thanks for all the people writing questions. Right on. And that brings us to the end of our 1,149th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Barney is at Barney Bentall. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery

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Canna Cabana are at Canna Cabana underscore. And Sammy Cone is at Sammy Cone. Again, Cone is K-O-H-N see you all next week But the snow wants me to dance And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and green Well, you've been under my skin For more than eight years

It's been eight years of laughter And eight years of laughter and eight years of tears And I don't know what the future can hold or do for me and you But I'm a much better man for having known you Oh, you know that's true because Everything is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold with the smell of snow Won't stay today

And your smile is fine and it's just like mine And it won't go away Because everything is rosy and gray Well, I've been told That there's a sucker born every day But I wonder who Yeah, I wonder who Maybe the one who doesn't realize

There's a thousand shades of green Cause I know that's true Yes, I Cause I know that's true Yes I do I know it's true Yeah I know it's true How about you? All that picking up trash

And then putting down rogues And then brokering stocks The class struggle explodes And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn? Because everything is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold

But the smell of snow Warms me today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is Rosie and Grey Well I've kissed you in France

And I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true Because everything is coming up rosy and green. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms us today.

And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine. And it won't go away. Because everything is rosy now Everything is rosy and Everything is rosy and gray Thank you.