Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Bill Brioux Returns: Toronto Mike'd #469

Episode Date: May 27, 2019

Mike chats with Bill Brioux about TV before he kicks out the TV themes.

Welcome to episode 469 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Breweryol, StickerU.com, and our newest sponsor, Capadia LLP CPAs. I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com and joining me is a

man who writes about television. I gotta work on that intro for you. Bill Brio. I've been introduced work on that intro for you. Bill Rio. I've been introduced as someone who gets paid to watch TV. So this was like a big step up. Thank you. Amazing. That in itself is amazing.

But I should let people know, you've been here before. I have, yeah. That was about four or five sponsors ago. Did you at least get beer when you were here last time? I did. I got a six-pack of beer. Are you kidding? My get beer when you were here last time? I did. I got a six-pack of beer. Are you kidding?

My son had that inhaled in no time. So good, because you're going to get more beer. So your son's going to be very lucky again. But yes, so if people want to hear the deep dive, like we talked a lot about you wrote for The Sun. Yeah. TV Guide. Yeah, I started out with TV Guide way back. People remember that little magazine.

And then the Toronto Sun for about eight years. And Canadian Press freelancing the last 10 or 12. And remind us how we find your... By the way, before even you say the URL, I got to say, you're my favorite guy writing about TV today. Like, I love your... Can I call it a blog? Yeah, thank you. That's very nice of you to say. Like, I love your, can I call it a blog? Yeah, thank you.

That's very nice of you to say. No, I appreciate it. I have been writing that at brio.com. It used to be TV Feeds My Family. You can still find it that way, but b-r-i-o-u-x.tv. And just relaunched the site this year, earlier, and it's getting, you know, a lot of traffic.

My daughter's a graphic designer for shopify in montreal and she took over the look of it and made it much more interesting and more features and having fun with it again did you pay your daughter oh my goodness i'm gonna give her this lovely uh no i i definitely in fact she's coming to toronto tomorrow we're heading up north so uh there'll be lots of treats for Katie for sure. Oh, no, good work. And what, I mean, like there's lots of things I'm always interested in. And of course, we had some big finales lately,

but what I want to start with is sports on TV. Yeah. Because the majority of what I watch on TV is sports. And I guess what I really want to start with, those on Periscope, I'm sporting the We The North shirt. But man, Saturday night, game six, Raptors versus Bucs. And we did it, man.

We did it. Are you at all a basketball fan? I am, but I've been caught up in the excitement of these playoffs like no other time. So I am a bandwagon jumper for sure well welcome yeah but it's exciting and um you know my son uh dan is 26 so he's been watching games with all his friends um i don't have the overnights yet on saturday so i'm looking for them today they'll be up at

brio.tv but i'm expecting it to crack uh million on sports debt, I would think. And historically, I mean, okay, so what is right now? What is the record right now? Is it when Kawhi hits the three to clinch it against Philadelphia in game seven? Got to get all my games right. Is that the record right now? I believe so, yeah. And that's over 2 million, and a half million um households eyeballs whatever

and um yeah like you know here's the astounding thing we're into the final round of the stanley cup playoffs and basketball is smoking hockey in canada and that's never happened so it you know of course there's no canadian teams there hasn't been since the first round. The Leafs were eliminated, and Rodgers' executives started jumping out windows. But basketball has come to the rescue for them big time. So unlike Hawks, so hockey, every game's on Sportsnet. They paid the big bucks, billions of dollars for that. But Raptors, they take turns, right? They do, every second game.

So, you know, Sportsnet has been very fortunate. They had the game Saturday. They had the four bounce. Yeah, they have been very fortunate. They've been the lucky ones so far. So, but, you know, if you look at the ratings, just on Sportsnet, even up to these games, they've been pulling one and a half million on Sportsnet

and around a million on TSN. So who knows? From now on, each night is going to be very interesting and break more records in Canada. And do you know, and I think this is true, but it was unclear. I had Leo Roudens in here last week. Yeah, I saw that. And he led me to believe, and now I don't think he was quite accurate

unless maybe I misunderstood him. Let's say that I probably misunderstood the man. I was just bedazzled by the fact Leo fit into my basement. That's what I was going to say. He probably hit his head getting there if there was something he said wrong. But for the NBA Finals, which begins Thursday night,

we get the ESPN feed, right? Like, we don't have the TSN or Sportsnet crew. Like, they simulcast it, do you know? Well, I know that some games, even with Stanley Cup playoffs, it's NBC's feed. But the finals will be Jim Hewson. Obviously, Jim Hewson calls it for Sportsnet.

But I don't believe it's Matt Devlin, for example, when it's a TSN game. It's not going to be Matt Devlin and Jack Armstrong. We're going to get the simulcast of the U.S. feed. You know what? That's news to me.

I don't know about that. But I'm not even certain, except that I had this debate we're going to get the simulcast of the US feed. You know what? That's news to me. But I'm not even certain, except that I had this debate with Mark Hebbshire this morning. He says hi, by the way. Oh, good. Mark's a great guy. I love Mark. Well, you're both great storytellers,

so you're both great podcast guests. So everyone out there have a podcast. More Hebbshire and more Bill Breo. Now, so up until now, obviously, we've been able to, we've been seeing the Rogers or TSN crews bring us the game, which is kind of unique in NBA because in, for example,

in Major League Baseball, when the Blue Jays had a wild, or when they had a ALDS, which we were in a couple recently, we had to watch the, whoever had it, I can't even remember anymore, but whoever.

Back in the 90s? No, like 2015, 2016. Oh, those playoff games. Right, like we no longer get Buck Martinez and Pat Tabler. So it's like a rights thing. Like you don't get your own TV crew. Right, probably Fox.

Probably, yeah. Don't remember their crew. Certainly, you know, I don't know. I think if you're a Canadian network and the Raptors are in the finals for the first time ever, you better have Canadian guys calling the game as the face of this thing. So as much as Barkley, my goodness, Charles Barkley,

he's become mayor of Toronto. Love that guy. Yeah, and it's fun watching those four guys just as it is for the hockey to have the Canadians. But I think your guys on the floor need to be Canadian if the Raptors are in the final. For TV? For TV, yeah. So I've got to

find out. I've got to find out. Because I've been led to believe it. ESPN controls it 100%. And we don't, but I don't know. Actually it's a good, it's interesting. It's funny. I wish I had, I didn't have time between the Hepsi episode and you to go dig it up. But we'll find, but I don't know. Actually, it's a good, it's interesting. It's funny. I wish I had, I didn't have time between the Hepsi episode and you to go dig it up, but we'll find out. I'll look into it too.

You look into it too. Now, I guess we'll find out Thursday who the heck's given us the game. So what number do you expect for Saturday night's game? If you had to guess, like a ratings number? I'm going to say three and a half. And that would be the first three and a half basketball game in Canadian measurement history? Absolutely, yes.

Yeah, no, I don't think anything would come close. I think two and a half would have been the record, you know. And I hate to put you on the spot here, but just to give us some perspective, the bat flip, okay? What was the number for that game? Do you have any memory of what that got? Just to get a little perspective. Did that get five?

Oh, no, I doubt it. That's a lot. I mean, you know, when you think of it, Grey Cup gets four now. Is that right? Yeah. Super Bowl 7-8 in Canada. So those are the biggies.

So wait, so we might see a three and a half for that clinching game against the Bucs, and you're saying the Grey Cup gets four. Yeah, that'll be close to a Grey Cup number. That's amazing. It is amazing. But, you know, Big Bang gets three to a Grey Cup number. That's amazing. It is amazing, but you know, Big Bang is three and a half in Canada.

So there's an audience there. There's 35 million people, but a five is a giant number in Canada and doesn't get hit very often. Twice a year, maybe. Now, off the top of your head, do you know what number the Big Bang series finale got? Because we're going to

get to this in a minute here. You know, I still haven't seen the live plus seven. It still hasn't been. That'll come out Tuesday or Wednesday. I think the overnight live day tabulate was like 3.7. It wasn't maybe four. It wasn't massive. But it is, you know, the next highest rated show would have been 2.2 in Canada,

which would be Young Sheldon, you know, which next highest rated show would have been 2.2 in Canada, which would be Young Sheldon, you know, which comes after The Big Bang Theory. So it's a very consistent number with that show. And I don't think the finale was twice what it usually got. It was just a bit more. Interesting, interesting. Because back in the day, right, when Cheers, for example, and I saw this on your blog too.

You gave us the top five rated. Like those days are those days are just we're talking us numbers now that's right like mash of course yeah cheers the the series finales for mash it topped 100 million viewers in the u.s in 1983 march of 83 it was two and a half hours long um and back then you really didn't have even cable to compete with it was just the network so the pie is so fractured and splintered now right to get uh you know the the finale of big bang got like 22 million uh which should have been 80 million given how popular that show was number one in canada for

10 consecutive years yeah wow like i saw my first i watched the finale and it's the first episode of big bang theory i've seen in my life was the finale i know it's the first episode of Big Bang Theory I've seen in my life, was the finale. I know, but my daughter who watched was with me, and she was explaining things like, oh, the elevator's working, so she's explaining. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, we expected Bob Newhart to walk out the elevator

to tribute to finales or something. But yeah, there's a show, 279 episodes. It was the last show CTV bought that year in 2007 and it was uh literally they were flying home they'd got all they needed and mike cosentino who's still calling the shots in terms of programming i like this show about these nerdy guys let's well you know we got four or five dollars left let's buy it and uh that has made that bell wealthy wealthy wealthy every station they own every hour of the day, and whenever they rerun it,

even if it's on the Food Network, it gets half a million viewers. Amazing. So can you explain to me the allure? Is it just the accessible standard sitcom fare? Why is this show so popular? I think there had never been nerds as heroes on TV before, and I think there's just a lot of us,

so we finally had somebody to root for. And it was funny, but they made two pilots. You know, one, the first one didn't have Penny in it. But didn't it have the Canadian former VJ? Yes. What's her name? I can see her in my face. I can't remember. And really, I don't know if she'd want us to mention it

because she lost out on hundreds of millions of dollars. The penny, you know, Kaylee Cuglio was making 20 million a year. Can you imagine every morning you wake up and you're like, I was this close. I literally filmed the pilot and they made one significant change and it was my character and I've missed out on,

like I've left millions and millions of dollars. Yeah, this is the Pete Best of television. That's what's happening. But then again, the show wouldn't have been as big, I don't think, and that's what happened. The second pilot, she made those other two guys more interesting and they made her smarter

and it really gave the show heart. And so she was an essential part of it. And it's amazing that Jonathan Galecki, is it Jonathan? Yes, Jonathan Galecki gets to be in, Johnny Galecki gets to be in Roseanne. Yeah. Right, one of the highest rated sitcoms of all time.

And then he gets to be in Big Bang Theory. Like, it's just, who saw that coming? Like he would be a, you know, repeat offender in the ratings war. That's amazing, right? What's that about? I was at the press conference in LA when that show was introduced

on the part of the television critics tour. And Galecki was there. A lot of us remembered him from Roseanne, so we went and talked to him. But he'd been kind of off the radar. He was doing some Broadway and things. And I remember Chuck Lorre, the producer of the show, saying, you know, you really should talk to this

Jim Parsons guy. None of us had ever heard of him. He really knocked us down with what he's doing on this show. And that's what happened. Parsons was the breakout right away. And it wasn't a huge instant hit, but by the end of the third season,

it really took off. Well, thanks to that Barearenaked Ladies theme song. Yeah, we're going to talk theme songs. And there's an example that all you need to do is write a theme song for a show that lasts 12 years and is a huge hit. And you probably don't have to do any other work. Well, Tyler Stewart was on the show fairly recently, and we talked about that. And he was at the cottage. So he's at the cottage having a good time with his family he was kind of tired and i think it was ed robertson phoned him up and

said hey we can do this thing this theme come come back to the city we'll record it and basically tyler stewart did not want to leave the cottage to record this thing like and he's like well like yeah this looks like he didn't didn't feel it like didn't think it would go anywhere and i think as like just take one for the team. There's a, you know, there's a big upside if this does work and whatever, whatever.

So he's like, fine. He goes, he bangs on a drum for a bit or whatever. Like, the rest is history. Yes.

That's amazing. Now, did Tyler say if he got any money for that? He says he, well, he says it probably bought him a new,

bigger cottage. Who knows? I know, I believe he got a lot of money for it. Okay. Like, quite,

I think so. Because there's some controversy about Ed Robinson and sharing the wealth on that. And I don't it. Okay. I think so. There's some controversy about Ed Robinson and sharing the wealth on that. And I don't know the story. Oh, I have to get him back and find out about that one. Yeah, maybe he did.

Maybe I'm fabricating something here. I think there was an ex-band member who was a little more peeved. Oh, no, no, that's true. Because there was a lawsuit between Steve and Paige in the band for sure. But I think that theme song, and we're going to talk about this,

but theme songs make a difference. And that's an example of one that was a perfect fit. And I'd heard the story too that Ed was approached. They did a concert in LA and Chuck Lorre and Bill Prady, the producers, went to it and said, we want you guys to write the theme. And I guess Robinson had been approached before and it always fell through.

And he said, look, don't waste my time i are you really gonna use it because i don't want to do this if i'm just being jerked around they said no we love your band please do our theme song so he had to be talked into millions of dollars wow and apparently he wrote it in the shower at least that's the stuff of legends amazing okay so so three and a half for the Raptors. Who saw that coming back when Damon Stoudemire was putting up 20 points in the big dome? Oh, yeah. If they got 300,000, that was like, wow.

And so it's an enormous leap, but it just tells you that's why the Stanley Cup playoffs have fallen off the radar. There's no rooting interest. There's no home team. There's no stars, really. We're tired of Boston, especially in this market. It's hurt. There's been good hockey. St. Louis is

tremendous and a lot of teams. But if you don't have Vancouver or Montreal or Toronto or Calgary, it really drops right away in terms of ratings. Or at least throw us a Crosby or even an Ovechkin last year. You know what I mean?

Like this has been a tough. It has. And I tried to get into it a little because my boy was rooting for San Jose Sharks and I, you know, whatever. But I mean, I kind of didn't even realize it hadn't started yet. Like, you know what I mean? It's like somebody let me know if St. Louis has three wins and they're either close or tied

or in the lead going into the third period. Then you'll start watching? I'm going to watch. That's how much you hate Boston, right? I want to see St. Louis. And if Boston, I don't want to see Boston hoist the cup, no interest at all.

But I would totally want to watch live St. Louis win the cup just because I'm a big hockey guy. But that's me being a big hockey guy, tuning in for one period this month. Well, you know, I'm old enough to remember when St. Louis entered the league in 67, they'd never won a Cup.

They've won just as many Cups as the Leafs have in those 50-whatever. Same drought, too. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it'd be great if they won. And San Jose, I was kind of rooting for, too. I was in San Jose a month or two ago. Apple TV had a big press launch.

And walking around San Jose and seeing all those sharks, just people on the street, they love that team. So it's pretty exciting. Well, they've been knocking at the door a long time. And Joe Thornton is now like 56 years old. By the way, isn't that Jim Parsons' age? He's 56 years old. Jim Parsons is 46.

Yeah, which nobody can believe. You know what the median age is of people who watch The Big Bang Theory? Oh, I... In the U.S. Take a guess. I know. I will take a guess. I feel like...

Younger crowd. 29. About five years ago, and it'll be higher now. It was 55. Holy smokes. Old people watch The Big Bang Theory. It's the dirty little secret, but the show doesn't just play to millennials.

It's, you know. Because old people have TVs. They're the only ones with a, they don't watch on their phone anymore, yeah. That's funny. I don't know why I went so young. Those people aren't watching anything. Maybe they're stealing it or some crooked stream or whatever.

Those whippersnappers. Man, my kids, except for sports, my boy doesn't watch any TV. He'll watch some stuff on Netflix or whatever. You got to talk to him, Mike. Come on. I will. I will. I will talk to him.

Oh, here. We're talking of little Raptors. So let me do this for my friend, Brian. That's for Brian. Cause Brian on Twitter is at Raptors devotee. And, uh,

you know, but I'm putting myself in this group. We're watching preseason games. Okay. I tuned in every opportunity this season whether kawaii was playing or not i watched the raptors like and i not like you know my wife my wife likes to watch the last two minutes because that's when everything happens but i like to get the feel for the game i watch from the tip off okay this is me but let's talk about brian brian

has been a fan since because he's from montreal and this is the only team that he was in Toronto for the birth of. He was an Expos guy, so he's not going to feel the same love for the Jays or whatever. But he's a Raptors guy through and through. So I'm happy for the Brians out there. We're in the finals. I feel like now we're playing of house money. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing.

If you're from Toronto, you never believe your team will win, and you've been brought up and conditioned that way. So it's exciting to see a team that isn't inflected, infected with that. Infected, yes. They just want to win, and that's what's really exciting, and Kawhi has changed everything. Man, so fingers crossed. I'm afraid to watch.

I'm one of those guys that thinks if I watch it, they'll lose. And I'll jinx it somehow. Somehow I think that's the sign of a large ego that you feel you can influence the game. Could be. You're like you're playing God here. Yeah. Or just a scaredy cat. I think I'm just as scared.

Sounds like my mom. It's like, oh, every time I turn it on, they start losing. I'm like, I don't think they're related things. I think we call that a coincidence. Meanwhile, all the times you turn it on and we go on a run and end up winning, you don't remember those times. Oh, true. Your selective memory here.

So, oh, I ran out of his amazing, what's it called? Jingle. I was like, what are these guys? By the way, have we told the people exactly what we're going to do today? We're going to kick out the TV theme songs. Yeah. You've given me like, is it about 15? I think so.

And a bonus there? Yeah. I've got them all ready. Like we're going to play. Awesome. And tell me, are these what you deem to be the best theme songs? These are just favorites.

And I was listening to you talking to Maureen Holloway or somebody. Last week, yeah. Yeah, and the suggestion was to you talking to Maureen Holloway or somebody. Last week, yeah. Yeah, and the suggestion was, you know, you're kicking the jams, but really, if you did this again a week later, there'd be maybe eight other different songs. Very true.

So, you know, I think there's a lot of great themes, but these ones mean maybe the most to me right now. Which I can't wait, and I got them all queued up, and we're going to have a great time. But Brian, while his jingle's ended, but I'm going to tell everybody that if you're looking to buy and or sell in the next six months,

this is real estate because Brian is a real estate sales representative with PSR Brokerage. Call Brian at 416-873-0292. Even if just to tell him, you know, congrats on your Raptors making the finals. You know, we haven't had a team in the final. I get in trouble when I say this

because TFC just won. That's true. A couple of years ago. I have to phrase it properly. And the Marlies won last year too. And the Argos won. Argos won not too long ago. But I always say it like this.

Okay. Of the major, am I allowed to say it? Oh, sure. Okay. Of the four major sports leagues. Or the real sports. Say it that way. Bill said that

if you're looking to complain. Of the major sports teams, the big four leagues, of which we're in three of them, because we don't have an NFL team. But this is the first time we've been in a final since 93. So call Brian.

Again, he's also at propertyinthesix.com. He's a great, honest real estate agent. And give him a call and even meet him for a coffee and talk raps and real estate. So thank you, Brian. Speaking of very fine people that are partnered with this show, the newest sponsor is Capadia LLP. They're an accounting firm. And they see beyond the numbers. This gentleman, Rup is Capadia LLP. They're an accounting firm,

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No. What was that name again? Rupesh Kapadia. Wow. So go to kapadialp.com. Great handle. I could, you know, all writers are idiots when it comes to numbers, right? So I could use this guy.

I'll hook it up, man. Free consultation. Rupesh is your man. He's a cool cat. Rockstar accountant. I want to give you some gifts beyond that free consultation. So where do I begin? How about with the beer? So this is your son who's going to drink this beer? Or are you going to get one and he gets

five? Is that how it goes? No, you know, Dan and his friends, I think, will dive right in. They loved it last time. They've got funny illustrations on the tips. Are you working on a dad body? Sadly, yeah, way past that. No, these are beautiful. So Great Lakes Brewery, Dan will love those beers.

Fresh craft beer, Great Lakes. Excellent people. I'm going there today, actually. So after we record, I'm going to bike to Great Lakes for some grub and a couple of pours. They're hosting TMLX3. You're no longer an Etobicoke guy. No.

You've left Etobicoke. I know. I live in Brampton. Yeah, I've been in Brampton for like 30 years. Oh, a Tobacco North. Yeah. I don't know. Because you went to Powers. I did. I grew up in a Tobacco, but yeah, no, I'm stuck in Brampton. Oh, just 30 years. I'm talking like it happened like three months ago

or something. So it's worth the drive back on June 27th from 6 a.m. And Joe will be there. This is your big event? Yeah. Oh my goodness. TMLX3. Nice. So lowest of the low will play. Yeah. It's going to be like everyone gets their first beer on the house if they're a listener or a guest. So you qualify twice

because you listen to Maureen Holloway. Yeah. Yeah. Joe, did you know Joe? You still play hockey with Joe? Oh yeah. Joe's our goalie. Joe's awesome. Yeah. You know he's disappearing for a year. He's going away. He's going to be in the witness protection place. He's seeing the world with his family and his kids and every month at hockey he would have a, you know,

they've just painted one bedroom or they've just bought sleeping bags. This is like this ordeal, this story. It's great. They threw out every stitch of clothing that is made of cotton because they need quick drying stuff because they're going to be living out of, yeah, this is a big deal. So, yeah, he's got three pretty young kids, really. Him and his wife and his three kids

are going to go to South America. Everywhere. Yeah, a bunch of places. Asia. All over Asia, China. But not Malta, he tells me. No, and I was Maltesing him about that. I'm going to steal it.

So why am I bringing up... Oh yeah, Joe will be at TMLX3. There's a big celebrity for you. So you got to come and get your free Great Lakes beer there. So thank you, Great Lakes Brewery. Guys, this is the perfect weather for the patio at Great Lakes. Now's the time. This is new, right, for you?

Yeah. No, I didn't see the big red box. What's in here? Palma's Kitchen. Now that's from Palma Pasta. Do you say pasta or pasta? Pasta. Do you say pasta or pasta? Pasta. I say pasta.

And I got called out last episode, Jess Salguero. She's actually in like a, what's the movie? Mary Kills People? Yeah, a TV series, yeah. And like a bunch of stuff. There's Letter Kenny. And she's in Working Moms. She's the mean nanny.

Who's this? This is the... Sorry, no. Jess Salguero was on the last episode of Toronto Mic, and she told me I'm saying pasta wrong because I say pasta. And now I'm really conscious about it. All my life I've been saying pasta.

No, well, it's like if I'm playing hockey with Joe, I'll say pasta puck. So, no, I don't know what's pasta, tomato, tomato. As long as it tastes good. Palma's got that nailed. That is a meat lasagna for you. That's beautiful. Look at the way that's packaged. I know. This is like a handle.

Oh, that's cool. People are thinking these days, aren't they? Good for them. I know. And a lot of people when I give this away, they don't realize this is a handle. But it's amazing Italian food, Mississauga and Oakville, so not far this is a handle. But Ezra, amazing. Very smart. Italian food, Mississauga and Oakville, so not far from Brampton.

Nice. Go to palmapasta.com or palmapasta if you prefer, .com. I think it gets you to the same place. And check them out.

They're on Skip the Dishes now and they cater events. They catered my wedding and it's just delicious Italian food. So thank you. I'm on Break the Dishes. Right.

Sorry. Right. At least you're somewhere. So thank you. I'm on break the dishes. Right. Sorry. Right. At least you're somewhere. So there's also stickers courtesy of stickeru.com. That's smart. Yeah. Now I want to hold it up

to the camera though. Oh yeah. This is very important. I'm literally dropping these in the mail and biking around the city and dropping them in mailboxes. So people DM me or email me

if you want a Toronto Mike sticker. But then you've got to tweet at me when you put it somewhere. But that's one for you, Bill. What's the name of this company again? StickerU.com, actually, even just to make sure you know. I'm going to head, I want a Brio.tv sticker. Yeah, okay, honestly, because you can, through the website, StickerU.com, you can make your own customized sticker.

So if your daughter's the graphic artist, or she gives you the file, whatever, and you upload it through the website, stickeru.com, and you can get as many as you want, like one or as many as you want. It gets delivered to you. You can get stickers, labels, decals.

See these decals I put on the wall? They're fabulous. Yeah, and you can get magnets, buttons. Buttons? Yeah, we all want our Bill Brio buttons, Bill Brio TV. So do it up. They're fantastic too.

StickerU.com. And let's hop in the time machine. This will be a nice, like, to get us ready for kicking out these TV themes. How long back? Way back are we going to? Well, here's the thing. I'm going to do something different with you because you're Mr. TV. So it's on this day 30 years ago

and don't spoil this till we hear the theme, but this was the number one television show in the United States of America. And this is the theme that they were using. Oh yeah. They would change it every year. The star of this show has somewhat fallen in disrepute.

I've heard. That's great. I can blurt this out now, I guess. So he's a POS, as we say, a piece of shit, but his theme songs were fantastic. They were. And Bill Cosby, obviously, we're talking about. The Cosby Show, every year they would offer a different theme. And I think one was done by Quincy Jones.

One was done by Don't Worry, Be Happy. Bobby McFerrin. Bobby McFerrin was all vocal. And they would change the video as well to reflect it as those kids grew older. One of the themes I love, and I'm not sure if I put it on my list, was for the old Bill Cosby show, which was in 1969-70. Well, okay, let's do this then.

You did put it on your list as a bonus because falling out of favor, as you said. But this is it. I hope I got the right one. Hoo-ha! I'm going to get some maggots and some roses and raisin marbles. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

Funky. Very, very funky. You know, this is a 1968. Love this theme. I think that might be quincy jones definitely yeah so i didn't know this till i saw it on your list and i dug it up and i listened and i drilled into it and that's where i learned it was quincy jones uh composed the song back there and it's yeah funky as all hell very cool and uh a lot of these crosby gets credited as a co-writer of the songs and things certainly on

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So thank you, FastTime uh and before we kick out these jams uh i wanted to ask you about another finale so we talked briefly there about uh big bang theory but uh game of thrones ended yeah heard of that yeah that was on the news i think are you a game of thrones fan no um i watched the first season dan before he went off to university we would sit and watch and then I stopped watching because they were throwing kids out castle windows. That was episode one. Yeah, right.

There was a lot of stuff going on that I'm just, it was a little too visceral for me. So I started watching it again this season to catch the last six. Right. And so, you know, maybe this wasn't the best season to come back to. Can I tell you, it's eerie hearing you talk because this is almost my story except i didn't just do the first season uh i i was told by people i know and love that i would love the game of thrones like i was basically told because i always go on about the wire like i'm always going on about the wire and

they're like great show my favorite show of all time i see i'm going off again somewhere back oh yeah i have the d the DVD box set back there in SD though. So I don't even want to watch it in SD now that I know there's an HD version out there. But I was told I would love Game of Thrones and I really wanted to love Game of Thrones and I gave it,

ready? Three seasons. I did three seasons and I kept waiting for it to click. But I, and I have to be careful when I say this because people think I'm crazy, but I found it kind of boring.

It just never held my attention. What I've seen of it didn't do it for me either, and when I went back to look at it, it just seemed like Knot's Landing with castles and dragons. Right, and dragons. Like it's very soapy. Yeah, Dynasty of Dragons. Yeah, that's what it is.

So that's okay. Now, I mean, it's easy to be dismissive, but I know Sandra, my my girlfriend loves this show and and never missed a minute of people who love it like my brother they love it a lot yeah yeah so but i did something similar to you which is like everyone's talking about this finale so my wife and i decided we'd skip we so we watched the first three we bailed we both bailed by way not just me Not just me, but my wife, too. And then we decided we'll watch these episodes as close to real time as possible

unless they conflict with a Raptor game or whatever. And we'll just kind of see what all the fuss is about. So we watched the final season. And you're right. I guess it's fair to say rushed. Maybe they rushed this final season. And they did some strange thing with some major characters that maybe I found a little... I don don't know I personally don't

care but I know a lot of the big Game of Thrones fans were disappointed with what happened I didn't feel it was rushed I felt it was dull and you know I like Peter Dinklage is fantastic and he was very effective in this but I just

wasn't that engaged with some of the other characters. Who's the guy that expression from A to B. John Snow? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing. Good guy could run over. He wouldn't know. So, and you know what I don't like? I don't go to see movies

like Lord of the Rings. Anything that's got so much CGI. Fantasy stuff or just supernatural? It's more what I don't want to see is, like I'm looking at computer-generated everything, and you never saw a second of that on The Wire, and so I'd rather watch The Wire. Yeah, like I personally,

and this is a very big preference, I like it when it's grounded in reality. Like I feel like this is a real thing, like The the wire whatever yeah and there's no dragons and people rising from the dead and all these different things you know i have to say it's it's stunning to look at it looks like a hundred million dollar movie the episodes i've seen but i'm just not as engaged with the story i guess and maybe this was the wrong season to try to get re-engaged. Well, maybe they'll be better next season. All right, we're kicking out the TV jams right after this.

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Yeah, hope so. If you tell the kids this is the theme from the Avengers, they're going to correct you and say, wait a minute, but this is the theme from the Avengers. Yeah. Even when I hear the Avengers reference now, this is what I think of. Just a great, smooth, sophisticated show. It originated in the UK and was one of the first UK shows to air in primetime in America.

It was on ABC, I think, for a couple of seasons. Emma Peel, when I was 10, that was sex on the internet. It was just incredible to see her. She was a spy in a leather outfit with holes cut in it. And of course, John, the male character, wore a bowler and had a

bumper chute, which was a sword. Just very British. They drove an old, crazy old British car. And it was very tongue-in-cheek. But when I was a kid, I didn't realize that. I just thought it was a show. Sure, sure. And they made a movie out of this, right? Like fairly recently? Yeah, they did, which came and went. They tried a few times, I think. But it was just something about those two.

And remember, this is the 60s. So you've got James Bond happening in the swinging 60s. London was the center of the universe in terms of style and fashion and music, and so this show captured all of that. Do we know anything about who composed this or whatever, or this is just the theme that brings you back to the 80s? I'm ashamed I don't have that in my head.

But back then, they would have those big BBC orchestras for radio and television. And the swelling, listen to how sophisticated this thing is. But it also says spy. Listen to that. That's James Bond. Holy smokes. I hear the James Bond in there.

And also, it reminds me of a more modern theme song with the Mad Men theme, for example, which kind of trying to capture that period. Mad Men is harkening back to exactly then so this started in the early 60s went till about the end of the 60s um if you give a chance on youtube you'll see clips uh just look at the themes and and the way it was shot the two of them in a studio against a scrim with champagne glasses uh it just you know I knew something was going on there as a kid. It took another 10 years to figure it out. But Patrick McNee, who played John Steed, who was the main guy, I've interviewed him many years ago when I was a TV guide.

Great storyteller, fascinating guy. He ended up in a James Bond movie at one point, and the stories, but he was here in Toronto in the 50s, working with Norman Jewison and Christopher Plummer. He was part of that mix when TV was first, and Stratford and everything was happening in Canada. Now, when you gave me the list, and there are 15 I see, I'm actually playing them in

the order that they arrived, but should I flip that? I realize in hindsight, was it in a specific order? It doesn't really matter. Do you care which one closes? That's probably my favorite theme song. See, I probably, so I probably, because I'm actually playing it, now I look at it, now I'm playing it 1 to 15,

but you probably wanted me to go 15 to 1. Sure. Because I can now start. Now it's too late. I can now, how about this? From now on, I will, so I started with one, which I think was your favorite. And now I'm going to go back to 15 and climb back up to two.

That's the best I can do. And each time you do this, I'll say, oh, no, no, that's my favorite. So don't worry about it. Oh, here's a theme song I quite like, too. Let's do this one. Acres is the place to be. Farm living is the life for me. Lands spread out so far and wide. Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside. New York is where I'd rather stay.

I get allergic smelling hay. Love that line. I just adore a penthouse view. Darling, I love you, but give me Park Avenue. How many people are singing along? The chores. The stores. Fresh air.

Times Square. You are my wife. Goodbye, city life. Green Acres, we are there Here's what I love about that, Mike. The vocal performances are astounding. Like Eddie Albert, Neva Gabor, kill this. And, you know, it really,

back then, TV theme songs in the 60s told you the whole story of the show. And even if it took two minutes, they would do that. Like they established the premise, essentially, in the song. Yeah. So like Gilligan's Island, you found out where the shipwreck,

how long the cruise was. Beverly Hillbillies. Beverly Hillbillies. So I love that. And just their vocal performances are terrific. It was a very funny show that I think is underappreciated today. And I just love that. You know, how many people my age know every single word of that theme song?

Yeah, yeah. It really sticks with you. Yeah. I mean, this was heavily in syndication when I was growing up. Right, right. I saw a lot of Green Acres, you know, just like I saw a lot of I Dream of Jeannie. Right. These shows were just played all the time.

I don't know. I'm trying to think of where. Maybe CKVR or something. Oh, sure. It's all over the place. I don't know. I'm trying to think of where. Maybe CKVR or something. Oh, sure. They were rerun forever. New York is where I'd rather stay. I got allergic smelling hay. Who wrote that?

Wow. That was fantastic. It was fantastic. I always remember Eva Gabor, the Hungarian actress, who was really famous at the same time as I was watching the show with Zsa Zsa Gabor. She was sort of the more famous. People got them mixed up all the time. Zsa Zsa was more famous early.

Certainly she was a guest on like Jack Parr and people from the 50s knew her from films. But Ava really was more famous later because of this show. It lasted six years, I think, and forever in syndication. And she ended up being like a partner to Merv Griffin years and years later. And if you stay at the Beverly Hilton in Beverly Hills, California, which Merv Griffin once owned, you can bring your dog to that hotel because Ava used to bring her dog to

that hotel. Amazing. That's fantastic. It's amazing. All right. Here's another classic theme song to kick out for Bill. brings us back to a simpler time it does and uh you know imagine pitching this song coming in and saying now this is lovely but this was not that orchestrated on television you're right it was literally just whistling and hand clapping maybe right it was pretty much just whistling and imagine you know you come in we've all written your theme song let's hear it well that sounds nice but how are we going to orchestrate it no no it's that's the theme song. It's a guy whistling, but it evokes that era. The Andy Griffith Show was a kinder, simpler time.

A dad fishing by a stream with his son. There's a song with no lyrics, no words, but it's unforgettable. And you're right. Bad on me for picking some kind of remix. No, no, no. I might have made a mistake of another one later, but we'll get to it and talk about it then. I've never heard this version.

It's quite corkish. You know what? I did this with Maureen Holloway. Did you listen when she picked a Spin Doctors song, Two Princes? And I did the same thing here. You thought it was Sesame Street. Was that the one?

Well, I just, because I went into my personal collection and I put in Two Princes because I thought, oh, I have this song. And I pull it in, but I didn't, like I didn't do what I should have done, which is play it to make sure I have the right version

because in my mind, there's only one version of Two Princes by Spint Doctors. And of course it is, it's a Muppet version I must have had for my kids back in the day. And this is the same thing happened. In my own personal collection,

I had this song, like for some reason, but I have this version. So it happens again another time, but only one more time. But I will say this show, which again, I also saw song, like, for some reason, but I have this version, so it happens again another time, but only one more time. But I will say this show, which, again, I also saw in syndication, the two things people my age will tell you is that,

hey, it's got the guys from Happy Days in it. Right. Right? And this show has the guy from Three's Company in it. John Ritter is in it a bit. No. Mr. Furley. Oh, Mr. Furley, Don Knotts, of course.

Yes. No, you're right. That Oh, Mr. Furley, Don Knotts, of course. Yes, no, you're right. That's where you draw the generational line. You know, there was a great chemistry between, obviously, Opie, the Ron Howard, Ronnie Howard back then, and Eddie Griffith that really carried that show. And those first four seasons with Don Knotts every week, he was hilarious on the show.

So very interesting series. And I'm a big Simpsons fan. And forever they made fun of Matlock for being the show of choice for old fogies. Right. Well, yeah, and it was. I've been to Mount Airy, North Carolina. If you're coming back from Florida and driving

and you can just get a little bit off the highway, and that was Andy Griffith's hometown. And the place has, you know, a pork chop grill sandwich place. There's the Speedy Lunch or whatever it's called. You can go to the gas station and get served by someone who claims to be goober. There's a town drunk walking around named Otis. It's all there, and that's where Griffith drew

a lot of inspiration for the Andy Griffith Show. Oh, man, that's great, that's great. Now, here at Yale Gears, we'll modernize it a little bit here. The younger crowd will remember. They don't have to worry about syndication for this one. Thank you. I thought you were going to do some stand-up during that. I kept waiting for you to do your routine. No, no. Do you hear about the man with five penises?

Pants fit him like a glove. Ladies and gentlemen. Not bad. You know, just the idea of taking mouth sounds and turning it into a theme song. And I think here's the thing. Seinfeld, great, great show. Still sometimes the funniest thing on TV any night of the week.

I love that series. But a great theme song really makes a difference. And this one, just the sounds were so different. It was so distinct. The instruments that they chose were so different. I guess there's mouth organ in there and a lot of heavy, deep bass, but the mouth sound sort of set it apart.

Right. And apparently, so they do elements of that show up during, I guess, when Jerry's doing his stand-up. And it's different each episode. Have you seen this? Yes. Yeah, so it's like Jerry's doing his stand-up. And it's different each episode. Have you seen this? Yeah, so it's like there's a guy there with all these things programmed in his keyboard or whatever. And he, yeah, it's unique

depending on what his routine is or whatever. Well, even, and we'll get to some other themes where they carry the theme during the series. And if it was a sad moment, they had a sad version. If it was, you know, they would version them for those things. But, and again, i apologize to younger listeners they're gonna why is this crazy old man just playing these old old tv themes but i found that was the golden era of tv themes was probably 60s to

even the 50s to 90s then it kind of went away now themes songs aren't songs at all there's three notes you're right so it's hard to pick more modern ones but Seinfeld is 25 years old and I find it belongs in that golden age group. Now what I think is happening and I'm sure you'll agree is that whenever the show

airs on a network that runs ads, so if they run ads, that theme song is three seconds long. Right. Right? Yeah.

But if the show runs on HBO for example, they're still giving us a long theme like a game of thrones has a pretty long one like you still get your theme song if it's an hbo show madman long song and although they had ads on madman because that was on uh amc right no that's right funny but but maybe yeah but i think that um what has happened as they've added ad content to television from the 60s, it used to be a half-hour show was literally 25, 26 minutes. Now it's 22, 21. So they've lost four or five minutes of storytelling,

and the first thing to go was the theme song. Yeah, well, you remember when Lost was big. So I'm one of the suckers who followed Lost. Like, I regret it to this day but i watched lost and that that theme song that the title card kind of came on for like three seconds or whatever like that was the theme that was that was it like there was there was no like lost theme song whereas back then x-files lingered you know it was an unusual sound it was spooky it was perfect it was but it went on you know man so since we just played the seinfeld theme uh what

kind of like i mean there's a different era like now with the fragment we talked about this last time you were here but my struggle with tv today is how fragmented it all is and there's everything is great and everyone's like oh you gotta you gotta hear you gotta watch the fabulous mrs mazel or whatever but like oh is that on netflix no Netflix? No, it's on Amazon or something. Everything's there this way, or this show, oh, this show is there, this show is there. I find it really difficult, but in a simpler time, like Seinfeld to me, you're going back to a simpler time.

It is, pardon me, and my, you know, I love Fleabag, which is a new series. It's only aired twice, three years ago, and now it's just up on Amazon Prime. And it's very dark and funny and brilliant. And the woman who has written it is a genius. But I could not tell you for the life of me if there's a Fleabag theme song or what it sounds like. If it's on, it might just be one note.

And that's typical of a lot of new shows. You're absolutely right. So what kind of numbers? The Seinfeld finale, and I saw this. So the Seinfeld finale, is this one of the five biggest? If it's not fifth, it's sixth. It does sneak up there.

And I think at that point, you could still get 55 million people, but it's half of what MASH would have been., but it's half of what MASH would have been. It's half of what MASH would have been, but it is more than Friends, for example. Yeah, but not much. But not as much as Cheers. I think that's the order.

Because I got this from you. You're my source on this. I'm just remembering. Cheers is way up there. Yeah, it's almost. I think it's second, and then there's The Fugitive going way back to the 60s. Oh, yeah.

Because everybody tuned in to see the end of that series that's like a who shot jr like you're gonna like it's fine to get an answer to the question or whatever okay fantastic now this next tv theme jam uh i might have again and that might be an orchestrated version but we'll get get the vibe of it for sure very distinct huh Very distinct, huh? Yeah. What would that be, like a mellow tone or uh definitely puts me in the 70s i feel that very different sound you know here's a sitcom taxi for folks who are wondering still but it it was uh james l bro Brooks was one of the producers.

And I think these guys are smart. The instruction to the musicians or the composer is zig, don't zag. Like, give me something. People, it's a comedy. I don't want it to sound like Hogan's Heroes or, you know, Gomer Pyle.

Like, go the other way on it. And so they set a tone that the show is a little different. you know, Gomer Pyle. Like, go the other way on it. And so they set a tone that the show is a little different and a little more sophisticated. And it's about cab drivers and people never seen Taxi and Mary Lou Henner was on it. Judd Hirsch was sort of the main guy and Danny DeVito was the angry boss. A lot of big names on on that show and uh

lasted about five or six seasons do you know mary lou henner has uh can can remember every day of her life i do know this i've had a personal reason to remember this i once interviewed her i was on the set of there's a show called evening shade she did later with Burt Reynolds. Of course, yeah. So I arranged this interview. I was down, I think, I was still a TV guy. And we did the interview. I remember being cautioned on my way to her dressing room. If you see Burt Reynolds, do not make eye contact. Do not say hi to him.

Look the other way. Like, apparently he didn't like reporters. So I did not see him. But I got to Henry's dressing room. And we did the interview. And I realized that my tape recorder, back then it was a tape recorder, had eaten the tape. It destroyed the entire interview.

So I had to call her when I got back to Toronto. And I think she pretty much repeated what the interview was, word for word. She's like the only person who would have been able to do that. This is some gift she has.'s unbelievable she could tell you the date of the week you were born if you just tell her what the if was and right away too it's not right away right yeah instantly yeah no she's remarkable it's a it's not a trick it's a gift yeah it's yeah it's yeah it's some something i don't i want to i want to say this is a disease. It's a wonderful disease, and it would help.

I would think that would be very helpful in trivia. Because if you absorb the detail, you're going to be able to recall it right away. You'd be fantastic at Jeopardy. Or if you're writing LSAT. In many ways. Man, okay, man. But that's a great show.

Who's the strange... Who's the guy that Jim Carrey played in? Oh, right. Right. Oh, my goodness. Man in the Moon. It's, oh, he, Latka is the character's name. Right.

That's terrible. You want to Google it? Yeah, we have to do that. But he, yeah, he likes this. Because he was on Taxi as well. Yeah, and so was from Back to the Future. Tony Danza was on it. Oh, Christopher Lloyd.

Christopher Lloyd was on it. Christopher Lloyd, Tony Danza, and Andy. Andy, oh my God, that's a terrible, not Andy Sandler. Yeah, he did Elvis, a great Elvis impression. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking now Man in the Moon by R.E.M. Andy, Andy. Oh, this is astonishingly bad. Just type in Andy Taxi, it'll be right there.

We're going to get it from Bill here. It's on Andy Kidler. No. Let me actually Google it. So Taxi was on like bridge the 1980s, so 78 to 82, I think. Yeah. Is that the first time America, you know.

Andy Kaufman. Andy Kaufman. Of course. You know what, this is what happens with live recordings. I know that name, of course. Yeah, me too. But not when I'm recording live, it's gone. But is this the first time you got introduced to Tony Danza?

This is the first time? It was before Who's the Boss. For sure, yeah. And yeah, so he was a boxer before that. Like, you know, and he started acting. So he was a boxer before that like you know and he started acting so he was sort of like the fifth build on that show in fact the second build was the guy who was on greece conway jeff conway i never know his name i can see him but he was already so messed up by the time taxi came along and uh and he had all these addictions and it just sort of destroyed

his career but he was like the the hunky guy on taxi and was second built right right you were going to say something about andy kaufman or kaufman one episode called for another character to come in it was a real jerk who was danny devito's brother and um kaufman talked the producers into letting him play it as another person but he stayed in that character all the week for the rehearsals, and he was a nightmare, just a jerk. He came in with hookers, and he wouldn't rehearse. And the other guys went to James L. Brooks and said, you've got to get rid of these crazies killing us.

So they finally had to replace him. And he was just nuts. Yeah, the whole Andy Kaufman story is a bit bizarre. And you can't tell where the character and art form ends and the person, yeah, you can't tell the difference. It all blurs. Judd Hirsch on Taxi was the guide for, we talked earlier about the Big Bang Theory.

So Johnny Galecki, when he got this role, he thought, I'm going to watch Taxi. And he studied Hirsch because he was kind of the straight man to Parsons, and he wanted to sort of get that. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, cool. No, Taxi was a great show. Great show. And here's another one I remember from when I was really

young. Listen to all this elaborate orchestration in 1962. Every instrument in a big orchestra. And Hanna-Barbera had worked at MGM. They knew all these guys. And yet they put chopsticks in the middle of it. Right. And clearly, Danny Elfman, who went on to do the theme for The Simpsons, was inspired by the Jetsons theme song.

It had that same orchestral feel. I love the Simpsons theme song. I think the Jetsons is even better. And in the headphones, you can hear the flying saucer kind of hovering around your head. It's kind of amazing. It is amazing. And that's what amazed me about a lot of these shows, whether it was Lost in Space or the Jetsons, they would evoke

the theme that would be supernatural or space with the right instruments to make that work. Or maybe it just seems that way because we're so used to those theme songs now. Yeah, I mean, this one's omnipresent, if you will. Like, if you think of, okay, so the Flintstones, right, of course.

Is the Jetsons, essentially, this is the Flintstones in space? Is that the deal? Pretty much. Flintstones came first, 1970. It was the first primetime network animated. And, you know, the Jetsons only lasted one season. They only made 26 of them.

That's incredible. But they just played them over and over and over again. Man, I had no idea. Okay, let's kick out another Bill TV jam. This is the one that will probably stump a lot of people. Because at the beginning of this, it sounds like it's a news program, right? Like this is a, like it sounds like it's some kind of headline news or something.

It sounded like Petticoat Junction to me, that train. I hope I, yeah. And I have the right one, right? Absolutely. Okay, good. I'm not familiar with this program. No, most people won't be. It's in the 60s.

And it's definitely a Western. So this is a 1960s program. Yeah. But this is one of those 60s shows that didn't get a lot of syndication because I would have seen it somewhere. Right. And it wasn't even one of the best top-rated Westerns. You know, people this year,

Bonanza jumps to mind, Gunsmoke, of course. This was a more... It was the Western if you were into James Bond. But a very provocative, swelling theme that sounds like a big feature Western film. And, you know, the Marlboro Man. Western music, you associate it with commercials even back then. Robert Conrad was the star of the show.

He later went on to be the guy who put a battery on his shoulder and dared people to knock it off his shoulder on all the famous ads he did. He's still with us, Robert Conrad, but he's not in good shape. Have you given us the name of the show yet? No, the show is The Wild Wild West and the theme you're playing is, again, this is one that would have been released later if you wanted to hear a three-minute version. Like, again, they'd probably have, like, an album

or a single or something. Yeah, this is like, yeah. So this is going places where you wouldn't hear on the show. But the theme, when you watch the titles, and people can go to YouTube and look at them, they had animated titles, and it was, the guy who animated them was an interesting guy. He did the titles for I Spy, but he was sort of an on-the-fringe kind of guy.

And he had a very graphic style, and he had a cowboy character in the middle, but five screens all around him. So it was sort of like at that time you had a couple of films, and Expo had that movie, A Place to Stand, where boxes moved. So you had things going on on the screen all over in cartoon form. But the cowboy was grabbing the girl, and she's about to stab him, and he punches her, knocks her down. It was just a very surprising, different approach.

And also, the heroes of this show, with MacGyver their way out of problems, they had sort of a James Bond playfulness to it for a Western. It was different. That style you're describing, whenever you want to spoof this period, then you mimic that style. I've definitely seen modern things in that style to look like it's from the 60s. So, for sure. It just sounded like you were in for a good time, this theme.

And young Bill would watch this show. You would watch this? You know what, I don't know. I doubt it, because it was on in like early, like mid-60s, and it would have been too sophisticated for me. I was busy watching the Jetsons. Right. But I think I came to it later

and I just really love that theme song. The Bonanza had that rock and roll guitar. That's the one we remember when we think of Westerns. This was just more lush and sophisticated and I think I grew to appreciate it later. Did they ever... this is not the show that uh will smith movie remade yes is this the show because i remember the i didn't see the movie but i remember it came out you're exactly right okay yeah yeah this is very much like

almost like you'd hear like raiders of the lost ark almost with that kind of it probably was inspiring to yeah folks who came later for sure it was very orchestral big finish here and then a classic theme song Boy, the way Glenn Miller played

Songs that made the hit parade Guys like us, we had it made Those were the days And you knew where you were then Guys were girls and then women Mister, we could use a man like him And move on again All of the family was shot before a live studio audience. Amazing. Very evocative.

Of course, we just saw a few days ago, Jimmy Kimmel brought back All in the Family and The Jeffersons. They did a special. Did you catch this? No, but I caught you writing about it. Well, it is up on Preo TV for sure, but I was really curious to see how this would work. These are two shows all in the family,

the Jeffersons Night, early 70s, mid-70s, and a different time. Nixon's in the White House. There's Vietnam War is still going on. Watergate is happening. And Archie Bunker was the backboard to all of that. And the two of them sitting at the piano, again, a great vocal performance by two actors.

And, you know, the other night, Woody Harrelson and Marissa Tomei sat at the piano and did that same intro live. And it was pretty good, you know, and that got that night off because you wondered, could they reproduce these shows? And the way the two of them sang that, and Tomei threw herself into it, did that,

all the crazy Edith Bunker hybrids. Right. It got you ready for what was to come, and Harrelson planted a smooch on her at the end, and it really sort of said, we're there. We're going to nail this, and it took off from there. Now, I wish I had seen this, actually. Was it against the Raptors game?

I don't know. I feel like I was busy doing it. Well, you're right. That was part of the actually. Was it against the Raptors game? I don't know. I feel like I was busy doing it. Well, you're right. That was part of the problem. So it aired twice. It repeated on Saturday, but I'm sure you can stream it. I'm going to find it.

There's always a way. There's always a way. Now, so the actor got to decide whether they wanted to mimic or pay homage to the original or if they wanted to do something different. This is a great question, Mike. I wondered going into it,

will they just be, like, I would have been satisfied if Woody Harrelson just played it his way. Right. But they all tried to come close to Jamie Foxx was George Jefferson and he had the strut from the, you know, he really tried to mimic

Sherman Hemsley. And whereas Wanda Sykes made no attempt to do Wheezy, the original actress, like she just did it her way. Both ways worked. You know, it was interesting. And if they do more of these,

it'll be interesting to see those choices. And it's interesting because we talked earlier about how like young people are not watching conventional television. But you said like,

you know, you dropped some fact about Big Bang Theory being popular with like 55 plus or something, which is kind of surprising until you realize those are the people who are sitting down in front of a tv to watch something that airs whatever sundays at eight or whatever the heck it is now uh there's probably an appetite for exactly this like nostalgia is a potent drug like i know that better than anybody i typically lean on 80s and 90s nostalgia on this show because my uhs, 60s nostalgia is, I don't remember those decades very well.

I have little sliver of the 70s is in my memory bank. But I bet you there's a market for this to recreate like the Jeffersons or All in the Family. I mean, we're talking about Taxi and Cheers and all these other shows. You could just do them all again in this format. People would be tuning in just to see if they could do it. And even CBS, they do colorized episodes of I Love Lucy

and Dick Van Dyke Show now twice a year. TV's future is its past. Network TV, broadcast TV. Right. That's well said. TV's future is its past. Wow. And we'll talk about another one.

In fact, I was wondering if I should do it now to tease at what might be coming later because you mentioned that they recreated the theme song for All in the Family the other night when they did that live thing or whatever, but there's a new version of Moving on Up by Jennifer Hudson, right? Do you want to hear Hudson now

and then we'll just continue with the countdown? Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, so if she blows the roof off the dump. Moving on Up by Jennifer Hudson, right? Do you want to hear Hudson now and then we'll just continue with the countdown? Yeah, that's perfect. She blows the roof off the dump. Moving on up to the east side We finally got a piece of the pie We had a place Free-stove fry in the kitchen

A bean-stone burning grill It took a whole lot of trying Just to get up that hill Now we're up in the big league. Getting my toilet back. As long as we live, it's you and me, baby. And ain't nothing wrong with that. We're moving on up.

We're moving on up. To the east side. We're moving on up. To that dear old star. We're moving on up. In the sky. We're moving on up. We're moving on up. To the east side. We're moving on up. We're moving on up.

To the east side. We're moving on up. We finally got a piece of the pie. Yeah, wow. She just killed it. And boy, that was a moment on the show. She walked through the set, did it. In the original, you'd see the titles of them

moving on up to Manhattan. The story had the Jeffersons moving from Queens, where the Bunkers used to live, or still live, to Manhattan, to a deluxe apartment in the sky. And the lady who wrote the song was Janet Dubois, who was on another Norman Lear show. She was on Good Times.

Oh, yes, with a dynamite. Dynamite, J.J. Walker. So, you know, she was an actress and she sings it in the original and man, oh man, that's probably my favorite vocal performance of any TV theme song. It's just tremendous. Well, save that little nugget.

Spoiler alert. Let's do something different, and we'll get back to that shortly. Thank you. This is another one that might stop folks. It's going way back. But it's so lush and sophisticated. And it was the theme to a show uh route 66 henry mancini composed it um and that was i mean kim at that point this is i think that show started in 1960 um you know he would moon river he was like the hottest composer going. So it was about two guys in a Corvette,

and they would drive from city to city, supposedly off of Route 66. One episode, though, they are in Toronto. They actually stopped at C&E Stadium, back when it still existed. And the woman who plays the grandmother on Rest of Development, the actress. Oh, yeah.

grandmother on Rest of Development, the actress. Oh, yeah. It starts with J. Walters. Yeah, not Barbara Walters, but Jessica Walters. So she's in this scene where she's sitting at the C&E bleachers and meets the two guys who are in the car, and they have to see Mr. Bassett. They literally say in the show, we've got to go.

So they go to CTV and see John Bassett, and that's part of the plot of the show. It's nowhere near Route 66. There's another episode in Buffalo again. But it was a black-and-white show that really the star of the show was this Corvette. Every season they would have another perfect, new, stunning Corvette Stingray,

like the most beautiful car you've ever seen. And they would get in the car, and they didn't have jobs, and the idea was that they would drive somewhere and work for a week and then drive somewhere else. There's just something sophisticated and elegant about it, and I just love that. It was cool. I mean, I'm not familiar with the show Route 66,

but yeah, I was digging that. Isn't it beautiful? Now, I would not have watched this at that time. It was before my time, certainly. But I was watching, you know, Romper Room. Right. Maybe if I was watching TV at all. But certainly to hear that theme.

Now, if this show did not have that theme, we would not be talking about Route 66. No one would remember Route 66. I have the box set of Route 66, and the only really interesting thing was they go to Toronto. Right. But it was the theme that made you remember that show. Amazing.

Here's another killer theme. This is Jim Rockford. At the tone, leave your name and message. I'll get back to you. You're full of bullshit, my friend. I will sue you for everything you have. I will sue your ass. I don't remember that on the show.

That's funny. But this is correct. Pardon me? Now we have it. This is the theme from The Rock and the Files. Okay. Yeah, the thing about taking some of these theme songs from YouTube is you never know where they're going to go. But they're that mouth organ, just so evocative, right? Of this character and that show.

So what is this? This must be, again, this is the album version. If you love the show that much and you wanted to listen to the theme song for three minutes. But Mike Post, I believe, first of two entries we'll hear from him. And he did many, many TV shows. So catchy and you know, just really, again,

Sandra said, you've got to put Rockford on this list. You know, this was her song. For a lot of people, I think they'd agree. But sometimes you love the theme song because you love the show and you love the star. Right. And this is an example of that. But also, you love the theme song.

So it gives you the whole deal. It's James Garner, right? James Garner. He was a star. He was maverick before that and one of the great actors ever on television. You love the theme song, so it gives you the whole deal. It's James Garner, right? James Garner. He was Maverick before that and one of the great actors ever on television. Yeah, this is a memorable, famous theme song. I don't know, at the beginning, that cursing part, that's not from the show, obviously, but I wonder, this became a movie too?

Or Maverick became a movie with Mel Gibson? Rockford Files, I don't know if this made this became a movie too or am i no maverick became a movie right with mel gibson rockford files i don't know if this would a movie version it it may have been but around this time you had kojak and you had manix a little bit ahead of time maybe and barnaby jones and all these shows canon and they all had catchy theme songs um and they were all action shows with a hero who was kicking ass and taking names. Right. But I think this one,

Rockford, stands above all the rest. Well, do you ever see a show on Netflix called F is for Family? You ever see this show? It's a cartoon,

which is great, but it's about like a kid growing up in the 70s and yeah, there's a fictional show just like the shows you described

that is like an in-show show that they often watch or reference or whatever. But, yeah, so I'm totally there. You've got to check out F is for Family. I will. You would dig it. Alright, thank you, Rockford Files.

And, so, yeah, here's another show I have never seen, but I'm listening to this and I'm like, I know this song, so let's kick out this one. It's Future Mike, like three hours in the future, not like, you know, 10, 20 years in the future. I'm just chiming in here to say that like about 10 seconds after I started playing this next jam, the power went out and the mixing board shut down and Bill Brio and I were unable to continue. But don't be alarmed because Bill left. We took a photo. He left with his lasagna, his beer, his stickers,

his free consultation with Capadia, his 15% off of Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair, his love of condos he's going to buy with Brian Gerstein. He left. And in a moment, right now, actually, I'm going to call him. This is three hours later. So what I did is I went to Great Lakes Brewery for a couple of meetings and enjoyed some tasty, fresh beverages, biked home, and now I'm going to reconnect with Bill Brio from his Brampton estate. And we're going to do the rest of this episode. There's a few jams left. We're going to do the rest of this episode via Skype.

So I'm going to kick into the jam now. And the next time you hear Bill's voice, he's in Brampton. Let me tell you about my best friend. He's a one-boy cuddly toy. My up, my down, my pride and joy. People let me tell you about him. He's so much fun. Whether we're talking man to man or whether we're talking son to son. Because he's my best friend. Yeah, he's my best friend. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, Mr. Brio from all the way in Brampton.

Yes, Mike, I know. I was magically transported. When we last spoke, it was like the ending of The Sopranos. Everything just went to black. Did you like the ending of the Sopranos? yes I like it more and more each year I think it left it up to us

and you know everybody hates endings when you hear all the disagreement about the Game of Thrones there was just the rage on Twitter that this thing dared to end the way it did or whatever I think David Chase who produced the Sopranos, was smart.

He just stayed out of it and left it up to us. Yeah, I agree with you. I was kind of shocked at first, but the more further away I get from The Sopranos ending, the more I like it. Yeah. So tell me about, this is the theme song to The Courtship of Eddie's Father.

Yeah, now this is a series that I watched as a lad. It was on from 1969 to 72. Bill Bixby, people might remember as the Incredible Hulk in the 80s, he was the dad, and his son Brandon Cruz was six-year-old Eddie. Very underrated show. I have a theory that 1969, there were several shows that year that were HBO before HBO. And this was one of them. It was virtually laugh track less. It was from James Comack, who went on to do, you know, Welcome Back, Cotter, Chico and the Man, a very eccentric character. And so he got Harry Nielsen to do the theme song, which was quite a coup in 1969. It's one of those songs you never get out of your head. And the show is best remembered for the opening and closing,

where little film bits of Eddie and his dad walking along the beach or Disneyland or somewhere just hanging out as father and son. And it's all voiceover, him asking innocent questions or giving kid answers. Otherwise, it was a fairly conventional show, but beautifully made otherwise. And I'm surprised it hasn't been copied, that format, in all these years. Yeah. So as I mentioned, that's a show I don't know anything about, but that's a song I definitely know, so it's definitely out there.

Yeah, I could literally bore your listeners for an hour about The Courtship of Eddie's Father. It's fascinating to me on many levels, and if you go to YouTube, there are some small clips. I think Warner's has the video rights, so it's limited, and they do take stuff down,

but you can at least watch the title sequence and into a bit of it. Amazing. Okay, one, two, three, four. Four more jams to go, so let's kick out another one. Thank you. All right, they're starting to do that LP version repeat. But of course, people may recognize this one. We talked about David Chase a minute ago. He was involved with this show as well, Northern set in sicily alaska a lot of well-known names in the cast but uh an eccentric show about eccentric people um i really enjoyed this program sometimes it got

existential you know it got a little out there but um see, I don't remember that. You never hear that whiny sound in a theme song. This is the 12-inch version. There you go. David Schwartz is the composer. This was his first attempt to make a TV theme, and he was Emmy-nominated right off the top. I love this tune at home, by the way,

Mike, because I can sound smart because I have a computer screen in front of me that I can reference to. Right. But Schwartz did this, and he went on. You can kind of hear it, too. The next one he's known for would be the theme to Arrested Development. Right.

But I like this one again because it was an eccentric choice for sound and music. People might remember the title sequence. It was a moose walking through the town, and it would look at all the different, the paw of the brick, and you would hear this thing. You know, that's a second Jessica Walters reference because she came up in the Avengers, right?

And then here she is in Arrested Development. So, yeah, this is a great song. Roots 66 she was on. Oh, yeah. See, it's been so long. You know, to the listener, it's been moments ago. But for us, it's been three hours ago. Right.

Northern Exposure. Long enough for me to drive to Brampton. Right. Just be glad I didn't insist you drive right back. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. And I'm kind of glad. This is like you're a guinea pig of sorts.

You're the first person for my podcast that I've used this Bluetooth channel with. So the fact that we could do this is kind of neat. It is kind of neat and it's working out and I have to say the one really good thing is that lasagna

that you so kindly gave to me. Yes. It's close enough for me to drive to Brampton without that defrosting. That's right. I'm looking forward to that tonight. And as I mentioned, I recorded a little bit before we connected again, and I just spent the last couple of hours at Great Lakes Brewery. Oh, perfect.

If I'm slurring my speech, let me know. Oh, my goodness. This next theme song is going to make me cry. Let's get right to it. Thank you. There it is. The dulcet strains of early one morning, which a lot of us grew up with, of course. This is very Canadian. It's the friendly giant theme, and look up.

Look way up. Absolutely. Here's the remarkable thing about that. That show was on 25 years and every single show that theme was played live in the studio with Bob

Hummey who was a Friendly Giant. He played it on the recorder and they had a harpsist. Is that the right term? I think so. A harpist. A harpist in the studio playing it live every time. I had no idea.

That's amazing, because you'd assume it was just in the can, and they just played it like, yeah. No. You would never think that was live. It started in the 50s, and you would think, okay, in the 50s, but when it finally ended in the 80s, they were still doing it that way. I ran into a guy who worked on This Hour is 22 Minutes in Halifax, and his first job at

CBC was to open and close the drawbridge on the Friendly Giant. And he cranked a little dial, and it would raise and lower the bridge. It was all mechanical, all handmade. And that was the beauty of those shows and television back then, handmade television. And I think even as a child, you sensed this craftsmanship somehow translated through it.

Of course, Hummy to me was just such a great, great broadcaster. You know, that voice calmed you down and spoke to you. No, absolutely. And I heard he would not do personal appearances because he didn't want kids to realize he's not a giant. That's right. He was like, you know, a regular-sized guy. But, yeah, he would not cash in with personal appearances. He didn't want to disappoint kids.

And it's hard to believe that that was the case. But he died about 15 years ago. Bob Coney Bear, who did the two puppets, Rusty and the giraffe. So the one guy did both those puppets simultaneously. He's still with us and quite a talented guy. And literally, they would just have 15 minute conversations. They would wing it every time. Amazing, amazing. So earlier we had the Mike Post, what was it, Rockford Files? Is that Mike Post? Yes.

Okay, so let's kick out another Mike Post. Thank you. Another orchestral version, I think. I'm not sure, but... Well, no, it's pretty good. That sounds like it. Classic. It is classic. I imagine most have figured out this is the theme to Hill Street Blues. This was a revolutionary cop show.

I think it started like early 80s, 81 maybe. And Mike Post was asked to write this by Stephen Bochco, who had also worked on the Rockford Files as a writer. Bochco, you know, he wanted something different. Here's a guy who knew all these robust, macho themes. And he basically said to Mike Post, don't make it sound like that. Give me something the opposite of that. And so Post went out and composed this very simple song.

And I think it's one of those stories where he called him half an hour later and played it to him over the phone. Yeah. And it was just that simple. And, you know, it really stood out. In an era when you would hear the Hawaii Five-0 would really start with such a thunder. Shows like that. And then Post went on to do L.A. Law and several other shows for Bochco as well. Mike Post did the Law & Order theme, right?

Or am I crazy? You know, I don't... I feel like that's him. I'm not sure. Okay. Don't you have a computer? I do. I'm looking.

I feel like that's him. I don't see it. Huh. Mike Post. I feel like he did the Law & Order theme, but you will tell me in a moment. Because I can see his name in the credits. I watched a lot of that on A&E at 11 p.m. Every night I'd watch Law & Order.

It was a long time ago. And I remember seeing Mike Post's name. He may have. He may have just written the dum-dum-dum part of it. But I'm looking him up. I don't know for sure. And then something tells me that that's not Mike Post,

but I've certainly been wrong before. Well, you know what, Mike? You are correct. Law and Order. So he did Law and Order, Law and Order SVU. He also did the theme to The A-Team, which I forgot.

So quite a prolific guy and maybe known for more themes than anyone else. Quantum Leap. team, which I forgot. So, quite a prolific guy, and maybe known for more themes than anyone else. Quantum leap. So, yeah. Wow. So, finally, for the record, I was right about something. This is important. We don't want to run behind that. You're on a roll.

Now, you know, you're down to your last jam here. So, first and foremost, thank you so much. Not that I'm going to boot So first and foremost, thank you so much. Not that I'm going to boot you right away, but thank you so much for actually being so understanding about the fact that the power went out. And I think it's ironic for the people listening to know that you and I went to a school called Power,

and there was no power here to continue our broadcast. So thank you. Right. Michael Power High School. You and I went to separate schools together. Right. Michael Power High School. You and I went to separate schools together. Right. That's exactly right

because, you know, Bill, you were long gone by the time I got there. But that's... I'm much older, but yes, we did attend the same... Although you were still there

while it was still located at Six Points, right? In fact, I'm the last graduating class from the original location. So the very next year they were in, what, Arendale or whatever that is.

Not, near Centennial Park. I don't know what. They moved to Winnipeg or something. I can't remember. Sounds about right. Okay, now we teased this because earlier this episode, we played the Jennifer Hudson version of Moving On Up for the live version of The Jeffersons.

So you can imagine what could be coming next. Let's kick it. We're hoomin' on up to the east side. We finally got a piece of the pie. Fish don't fry in the kitchen. Beans don't burn on the grill. Took a whole lot of trying just to get up that hill. Now we're up in the big leagues. Getting our turn at bat.

As long as we live, it's you and me, baby. Ain't nothing wrong with that. We're moving on up. Moving on up to the top. Moving on up to a deluxe apartment in the sky. We're moving on up.

Moving on up to the top. Moving on up. We finally got up here Now again, Bill, I chose the album version, so this is a long cut. But man, is that your second favorite TV theme song of all time? It probably is, by Gad. And, you know, again, the story is Janet Dubois, the co-author of the song. She's the singer. It's her voice you hear there.

And she also played on another Norman Lear sitcom on Good Times. So amazing, really, because she sounds fantastic. She must have been quite a singer as well as an actress. And the lyrics to the song are so vivid. It's another one of those ones that tells you the entire story of the series. It's about these guys moving on up from Queens to Manhattan, African-American family.

The lyrics are very African-American. You've got to sing them right. And she kills it and man it's maybe the best vocal theme there ever was like save for getting Aretha Franklin to sing your theme that was pretty good I think. Amazing.

Like, amazing. And this whole episode I enjoyed so thoroughly because I love the theme songs. And some of these were before my time. But it's amazing to hear, like, your perspective and thoughts on some of these things from the 60s that I don't quite remember. But I've thoroughly enjoyed this to a point where at some point I'm going to ask you to come back and kick out more TV theme jams, I think. Well, we could do it. We'll do themes from this century and we could do the whole show in one minute because they're only a few seconds long. Here's the lost theme. Done. Thank you, Bill, so much. Again, thank you for being a little bit of a guinea pig, but I mean, we managed to wrap this up. And I'll

tell the people listening, there was a moment where I was concerned we might have lost the first hour and 20 minutes of this thing, and I'm just so grateful we didn't. So thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you for being here. My pleasure. Like, any time, it was a blast. Thank you.

And that brings us to the end of our 469th show. Bill, remind us, what is your Twitter handle? Twitter is BillBrio, B-R-I-O-U-X-T-V. And please visit the blog, which is Brio.TV, B-R-I-O-U-X dot TV. And people should do that. And subscribe. I subscribe to the RSS feed because nobody covers TV like you right now.

And keep doing it, man, because I don't know why the MSM has decided to ignore this popular medium. Like, we need you. Keep doing it. Well, you and I, we're getting up on these guys, Mike, we'll figure it out. But thanks for having me on. It was a lot of fun. Thank you so much. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer.

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