Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Blair Packham and David Quinton Steinberg: Toronto Mike'd #1146

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

In this 1146th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with musicians Blair Packham and David Quinton Steinberg before they perform live in the TMDS Studio. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are Open, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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and come back when we do that again in an hour. Love you. You going up? Oh yeah, that's your guitar. Nice meeting you kids. Yeah, nice to see you guys. You never saw such rock stars before. Except when those punk rock guys were here.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. Yeah. Actually, we have to wait to open those, right? See you later. Yeah, we have to do the mic. Okay.

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Woo-hoo! Welcome back. So let's paint the picture of what everybody missed, which was that my 8-year-old son was very excited to find out that actual professional musicians were going to be in the basement. Nice. And that's you guys, by the way. Yeah, I was going to say, who were they?

Yeah, I was wondering that myself. And Blair, just before, in fact, I caught a bit of it on the recording just because it was like, oh, this is happening. I want to capture it. But you took Jervis' guitar and you started playing last of the red hot fools i did yeah yeah i felt like well you had said to me that he he knew the song uh he knows the song which to me is amazing considering it was written uh in the 1920s you know well he doesn't know it from like disney channel or anything like that no i would say. I would say he knows it from you. He knows I sing it.

And he did catch a performance of that song live at TMLXX. Thank you, Blair Packham, for playing our event live. That was so much fun. It was really good. And the food was really good. And David, you should have come. Is there a reason I wasn't invited? David, you were invited.

Are you kidding me? Blair, tell him. Yeah, you were invited. I was invited. You just blew us off. I think you were hanging. Are you kidding me? Blair, tell him. Yeah, you were invited. I was invited. You just blew us off. I think you were hanging out with Randy Backman that night. You know, there's a

fresh Guess Who episode in the feed, but Randy's not on that episode. You can check that out. David is his legal representative. Well, once in a while. How come I can't get Randy on the show? So who else can you hook me up with, David? Quinton Steinberg. And how vital is it that I get Quinton in there? I know you've been here before, but is Quinton like that's part of the brand?

You don't have to worry about it. You can basically call me whatever you want. Yeah, whatever you want. Whatever feels comfortable. But I think it's kind of cool, David Quinton Steinberg. I like adding that Quinton in there. It would be hard to get on a hockey jersey. It's a long one. Well, who's the guy in the Oilers who's

got the... Nugent Hopkins. Yes, that's it. It takes up a lot of real estate. Yeah, totally. So, speaking of real estate, you know, and I dropped the Sammy.Cone at ProperlyHomes.com. You know, he's the drummer for The Watchmen. Oh, is that right?

I don't know if there's a drummer club. Like, do all drummers know each other in this country? No, but I know the band. I've heard the band. And I think Blair opened at TMLXX. You opened for Danny Graves. For Danny Graves, yeah. Yeah, who sang some beautiful songs.

That was nice, eh? You were great, by the way. I know I just want to say thanks for doing that again and you were fantastic but Danny was great too like that was actually a magical night it was a magical night I agree I had a I had a really good time and and uh Danny sang when things were getting dark and uh and it was it had a magical kind of quality to it because it you know there weren't stage lights but he was illuminated by you know people's flashlights or something i don't know watch me crowbar my way into this yes can i play with you next time yes

do it yes but yeah like i don't know i was actually like for sure i was thinking david quinton steinberg is going to be here i was looking all over the place instead i brought my driver shock shout her out because i'm going to do an episode of Progressive Past of Modern Melodies with Cam Gordon and Brother Bill. In fact, I got Cam Gordon news for everybody in a minute. But you might guess what it is, but I have it coming up. But Sharon Taylor is going to be one of my guests, because she was at KISS, C-I-S-S, KISS 92.5,

when they were kicking out the Garth Brooks and the Shania Twain and all the new country that was big in the mid-90s. Yeah, and when... For some reason, Mike has decided that Sharon is my driver. And he says that to her, and it irritates her. Does it bother her? You know why I thought that?

Because I did legitimately think that from Pete Fowler's event event oh right because okay so like didn't she drive you to that or yeah no i drove her she just came along she wanted to come my band wouldn't come with me they didn't want to go because they didn't in somebody's backyard no i don't think so they were too good for it but i had the greatest time and sharon drove me and it was really awesome um see she is your driver well no. I should say I drove her. And she doesn't like it because I've been saying it because I find it funny, but I don't want to upset Sharon's family. Well, it's like whenever I say Mark Weisblatt and I were in school together.

I know now that that isn't true, but that doesn't mean I won't stop saying it. So let's all open up our Great Lakes beer and get into it, gentlemen. Good to see you again. Great to see you. Here we go. Right on the mic. Okay, we've all got an IPA, so a couple of us have a burst, and one of you, yeah, Blair got the Octopus Wants to Fight,

which I love too. Oh, I got, yeah. They make a great beer. That's really good. Fresh. It's brewed right here in southern Etobicoke, and they host at TMLXX. Good to see you guys.

So we've got a lot of ground to cover. I have some jams loaded up. You're going to play live. Maybe Jarvis will join us. Who knows? Because he's very excited that you guys are here. What do you think about the fact that it gets dark at 5 p.m. now? Any thoughts on that?

There's nothing depressing about that at all. Yeah, that doesn't make me sad yeah and i guess it's done that every year i don't know why it's like uh this year is worse is it worse it's terrible i was out the other day and it got dark at five o'clock and i was like this is insane yeah i don't even understand why they do it it has something to do with some farming issue i think right yeah well now energy consumption it's only like four when when is it? It's November, so December, January, February, March. It's basically four months, right? And

that's it. And yet daylight savings time is supposed to be the weirdo, but in fact, or the outlier, but in fact it's regular time, standard time, that is the outlier now. And I think they should abandon it. Like enough is enough'm with totally stop doing this like they don't do this in saskatchewan did you know that they just you know saskatchewan is is far more evolved than what i remember you know 40

years ago when you were in a band yeah you could very very easily get switched around where you were sleeping during the day yes very up all night yeah and then basically you become a vampire and that's and that's right it's not healthy like at all not recommended no you don't want to be doing there's a there's a guy who friend we're totally random today i like that um a guy friend requested me today who i don't know uh his name is ryan i'm not going to repeat his last name that Well, that narrows it down. Ryan Vampire. That's right. Dracula.

Yes. And I don't know. He wants to meet me and hug me. Really? No, no. I'm just going with the Dracula thing. Is it Ryan Reynolds? He does write in his profile, though. He has a couple of notes about how he's learned some stuff about himself.

And it's good, the stuff that he's learned. He needs three liters of water a day. He also, this staying up, this being a night owl is bad for you. And as I read his post, I thought, this is pretty interesting, actually. But he was very adamant about the night owl thing. Don't do that. It's bad for your health, he said. Like on a typical day, what time are you guys packing?

See what I did there? Pack them. Packing it in and going to bed. Like what's a typical bedtime for you guys? Well, you want me to go first? You go first. Because you're a lawyer, right, David? Yeah, yeah.

You're not a caveman lawyer. No. You're a rock star lawyer. And because half of my work is with people in Los Angeles, I split the difference. So I start work late, you know, like what the average person would think is late. Yeah. You know, so I might. Like 11 a.m.

Like 10, 15, 10, you know, something. There's definitely a 10 in front of it. And then I'm going to sleep, I don't know, maybe like 12.30, 1. That's later than me. What time are you going to bed, Blair? I usually go to bed around 11 when I'm not playing. Around 11. Yeah, me too.

When I'm not playing. Yeah. What a big baby. I know. When I play, though, I'm often up till midnight or 1, you know, but it's tiring now. It wasn't before yeah yeah for sure we used to play the alma combo six nights a week and and play till one and then we'd

go to a speakeasy after that's right and uh and hang out because you can't just turn it off you know no no you got to come down yeah that energy man did i ever tell you when when mods first started playing in the u.s it was 1978 and uh in ontario at the time it was 1 a.m that's when the bars closed so we were off stage like latest in toronto at 12 30 latest and then we went to chicago and they told us our start time was 3 30 in the morning as the headliner of the club wow and we were dumbfounded. Like we just did not understand. And they explained to us, oh, no, no, people,

they party, they're doing it. And then they go out later. Right. And they're at the club basically till 5.30, 6 a.m. Then they go home. So we had never heard of anything like that. By the time we got on stage, even at that age, I was like, I'm falling asleep. Yeah.

That was true in halifax as well although i think we started started our set at one in the morning oh boy and uh uh yeah and we would we would play till roughly three like they wanted they wanted two sets and a break yeah we weren't doing two sets in the middle of the night it was one but still it was crazy one of the many things that amazes me about the great fotm blair packham is that like i can drop a name and then blair's like got a connection to that name like this happens all the time i dated him or something right something like that like the lasagna guy they made lasagna for me out the palm of pasta did you guys get a lasagna last time sure did did you enjoy it it was unbelievably

great yeah i didn't get one because david got one yeah i took it was one of you a vegetarian uh you guys eat meat i eat meat yeah okay okay okay so you're each getting one today oh fantastic i owe blair we eat tonight i have tonight tonight well it's gonna be very free frozen i would recommend you do it tomorrow. Break your teeth on it. It's pretty freaking solid there. David, call home.

So, Blair, the name I dropped because I was just sharing that. I'm literally coming off an episode, speaking of California. I connected with L.A. and I was chatting with Dean McDermott and Mary Jo Eustace. And then Blair, you mentioned you were in a songwriter circle with Mary Jo Eustace. So I'm trying to connect. So Mary Jo, who I know was like she was modeling and then she became like a chef. And then she got this gig with Ken Kostick called What's for Dinner.

And that was kind of her claim to fame for many, many years. And then she became famous for being like the gal that like Dean McDermott left to go hook up Mary, Tori Spelling. What was that connection with Mary Jo? She was in a songwriter circle with you? Yeah, I was part of this song circle. Well, it was called Songworks. And it was run by the music publisher, Peer Music, which is a legendary music publishing company. And they had a Toronto office.

And the publisher at the time, David Baxter, great guitar player and songwriter, he organized this group. And so the deal was this. When you think about it, it was like my lawyer, who's here representing me in all my dealings, David Steinberg. DQS.

Yes, he would object to this, but this was the deal. So a bunch of people are in the group and you get your name drawn out of a hat and that's the person you're going to write with and come back a month later with a song. That part, nothing objectionable there. The publisher gets half. They get the publisher's share.

So you and I write a song together, you get 25%, I get 25% and the publisher gets half they get the publisher's share so you and i write a song together you get 25 i get 25 and the publisher gets 50 it's one of those writers camps yes a writer's camp and and all they would do was they would give us some beer right and they would put us together with the other writers it's like little richard a shiny penny for every record sold alanis morissette was part of that group wow um yeah mary joe used us as we mentioned um i didn't write with mary joe by the way um i think i was going to maybe but we were a very social group and we did shows together and uh yeah it was fun um but yeah it seemed inequitable later on even though none of those songs necessarily made a nickel like there

there weren't any there you know none of the Alanis Morissette yeah like 50 percent of nothing is still what if they had but what if they had would not have been a happy fellow no true true yeah so I was more happy in the failure I guess right and you also came up recently because uh the bicycle mayor of Toronto came over the bicycle mayor is a guy named Lanrick Bennettennett jr i love lanric so he dropped your name like early on as like an fotm he had some dealings with so what were your dealings with uh lanric bennett jr well they were they were twofold really um lanric is uh is a wonderful guy who used to work at the um it was north york center of the arts Arts. The theater that does Broadway, I'm looking at David now for this,

Broadway shows and other concerts and stuff like that, it's off Mel Lastman Square. I know it because that's where Jersey Boys was running for a long time. Yeah, and I saw Jersey Boys there, yeah. So Lanrick used to book a music series there, and he worked there, I believe, and that's when I first met him, and he booked my band,

the early version of my band, The Impossible Dream, there, I believe, and that's when I first met him. And he booked my band, the early version of my band, The Impossible Dream, there. And we played a show, and it was great. He was a great guy. But then he ran for city council, and I had the very uncomfortable conversation where I had to say I wasn't going to be voting for him. I could have lied, but I wasn't going to be voting for him

because I'd already thrown my lot in with Paulaula fletcher and i was playing shows for her right like like fundraisers and stuff like that and i felt like i can't be a hypocrite and tell him and lie to him even though he's a friend of mine i think he would have been an amazing counselor it's so difficult to uh defeat an incumbent yeah like paula won big time as i recall in that election but But the funny thing, we were talking a lot about this. So FOTMs went three for three in the recent elections. I saw that.

I know, I'm sort of a kingmaker now. Yeah. It's kind of like if you lived in Florida, it would be really difficult to choose between Trump and DeSantis, right?

Yeah. It's so much like that. Yeah. And Blair is such a big backer of both. It's identical to that. And I just want to put in a good word. I would like to be mayor of Toronto, Mike. Oh, are you going to run?

No, he just wants to be appointed. If Toronto Mike will back me, I think I will. You never know what the future holds, Blair. But so Amber Morley is this ward you're in now is ward three and amber morley was trying to defeat an incumbent and i had her on the show and i rooted for her and all and she came to tmlxx she might have seen i did yeah blair pack and perform and she actually won the canna cabana prize pack like which i thought was wild because she won the canna cabana prize pack for best mind blow story and And then she won the city council.

There's only 25 of those things now. And she's a city councillor. And she's like, yeah, she's there. FOTM Ambermore. There you go. But yeah, Lanric is tough to defeat these incumbents. Yeah, but what a great guy. And what a smart guy and ethical.

Yeah, he's got a lot of great qualities and his relationship with his kids is very inspiring. And yeah, I love that guy. And he's visited every library in the city. That doesn't surprise me at all. Who can say that? Yeah, not me. That doesn't surprise me about him.

There's lots. By the way, quick, quick. This is apropos of nothing except that just yesterday I needed a new bike lock and I went to Skis and Bikes on Dundas because I knew they had this kryptonite lock on sale and I wanted to buy it. So I go into Skis and Bikes.

Nothing bikes on Skis and Bikes. I forgot it was November because I was in my shorts. It felt like it was a summer ride and it was November, of course. It's all skis at Skis and Bikes. And I said, I said, I want to buy a bike lock. Where's the bike locks? And they said, it's in the warehouse. They said, you have to order it online and then do curbside pickup because it's all skis.

And then I said, where is this warehouse? And they said, oh, it's downstairs or something. I said to the lady, I said, could I go down there and get my bike lock? And anyway, long story short is they did eventually get a young lady to go down and bring me the lock I wanted. And I didn't have to order it online and do curbside pickup. Like I was in the store. It was all bikes. Sorry, all skis, no bikes.

That's skis and bikes. Here's my story. It's a good story. Do you remember the commercial? I worship candles and such. That's right. Yeah. David's got a story. Well, wait, I've got a story. Do you remember the commercial? I worship candles and such. That's right, yeah. David's got a story.

Well, wait, I've got a story. I like soup. Soup is not a meal, Gary. That's my story. Do you remember the jingle for Skis and Bikes? Skis and Bikes, Skis and Bikes. Yeah. No, that's Fabricland, isn't it?

That's what I was thinking of, too. That is Fabricland. Yeah, but that's what I thought. It must have been similar to that. Something like Skis and Bikes. Oh, man.'s what I thought. It must have been similar to that. Something like skis and bikes. Oh, man. I don't know. I almost...

I need to give a story while I look it up. Let's write it right now. Well, no, but the funny thing is that Mike thought of Fabricland, and so did I. So I wanted to do that. Skis and bikes. Skis and bikes. If you want to ride a bike and you want to wear skis...

That's right. You got to come down to skis and bikes. I did a jingle for a marina in Muskoka. Would you like to hear it? Yes, please. Summer after summer, season after season, four generations and you are the reason we spent 50 years building a dream at Buckeye Marine. That's good.

That's good. And the guy that I wrote it with, his ex-wife was named Maureen. And I started singing Buckeye Maureen, which wasn't so complimentary. Well, he didn't mind because it was his ex-wife. Right, right. But still, it's not so nice. She was a nice woman. It was just that

it fit i can't find the skis and bikes jingle uh where's retro ontario and i need them exactly put out the he's an fotm hall of famer and blair if you keep at this at this trajectory yeah it'll be by 2026 you could be in there too 2026 that's that's even shorter than i thought i thought it would be longer I want the medal I want whatever Weisblot got okay we're going to get to Weisblot but first I want to tell people that this is not the first time

that Blair Packham and David Quinton Steinberg have been on Toronto Mic as a dynamic duo you guys were here in June so here we are in November you guys were here what's that? how many months ago was that? I should know that

five months? six months? six months? David's got it on his fingers I got it on November. How many months ago was that? I should know that. Five months? Six months? David's got it on his fingers. I got it on my fingers. So six months ago yesterday. Wow. Here's what I wrote at the time. If people want to go back and hear more. In this 1062nd episode of Toronto Mic'd,

Mike chats with David Quinton Steinberg about his years in the mods, recording with Stiv Bader's, playing with the Jitters, becoming an entertainment lawyer, working with Rush and recording Western Sunset with Alex Lifeson,

an envy of none in memory of Neil Peart. Blair Packham co-hosts. Yeah. Well, I really felt strongly that this was David's moment. So I... Yeah, you receded into the background.

I was about to say I receded into the background. But this show, baby, I'm taking it back. Okay, since I said those magic words... He's right in our face today. It's not even to be believed. Take back the night, Blair Packham.

I do love that you use that phrase when you're talking about Mark. Because it's so true. Can I tell you? I know he's actually watching live. Oh, there you go. Hi, Mark. I'd say it to his face.

So he sits where David is. The camera can't be on him. He'll be live streaming at live.toronto mic.com. So this camera's on me. That guy's not on. Oh, really? That's interesting.

Because he doesn't want the camera on him, which is fine. But we can hear him live. Or you can hear him. You can hear him. And he'll talk about something. And I might have something to say. So once in a while, I'll do like a finger thing like this.

And I'll get closer to the mic. Like clearly I have something to say. But he kind of ignores that. And then I might even start to say it. And I might get like a syllable in and I'll realize oh he's not like letting me in it's like you're trying to merge into traffic like on a highway or whatever so I'm like oh and I'll back off because I don't want to be talking over the guy once in a while if I have a really strong point I'm really passionate about I might try to drive it through but I realize within like I don't

know five or six syllables that he's not gonna I'm gonna just talk over him and it's gonna sound terrible for a listener or whatever and I'll just recede into the background and let him go till he's finished and that might be three minutes it might be five minutes might be six minutes and this is the only kind of toronto mic'd episode where that's the case and i'm just kind of used to it now but yeah your words blair recede into the background are like always in my mind like oh yeah this is the once a month the first thursday of the month now it's time for me to recede into the background of my own podcast. And I'm fine with it because he's so amazing.

He brings the goods. He's amazing. So Blair, this is your opportunity. And I'm going to... What, to make up with him? I'm going to assume... You already did that, didn't you? Well, I did.

I definitely did, except that I may have offended Mark again, and I hope I haven't. But we were supposed to go for a beer. And then my life got complicated as lives do and I would still like to if he's still up for it.

I'll send him a note and give him a call. David, you need to recede into the background here because Yeah, for once. Stop talking, David. I'm trying to give you guys your airspace what happened i saw blair that you and mark wiseblood had a conversation at tmlxx yeah yeah

what can you share with the fotms about that conversation oh uh well he he reaffirmed a number of uh times that we're not the same age that was was important to Mark, I think, to get across. How old is he? I think he's 70. I have a guess. 59, 60, something like that. So not in his 70s. No, no, him?

I'm totally joking. He's joking, he's joking. He's like 51. Yeah, he's 10 or 11 years younger than me. Okay, okay, got it. There, I said it, okay? Fine, Mark, you know? But I did, for a brief moment.

I thought that we were at U of T radio together. I was actually there when it was called U of T radio rather than whatever it ended up being called. And, but he was there, but 10 years after me. Got it. Yeah. And you were like a DJ there? I was a DJ there.

I was Canada's youngest DJ briefly. Wow. Until Kevin Nelson showed up, Jay Nelson's son. He was like 11? He was 13. I was 14. Yeah. Okay.

And he came in and he talked like this. He was 13 years old and he talked like this. Kevin Nelson, going to be with you until around 20 minutes past eight o'clock. And sadly, right? Shout out to Ridley Funeral home but he he passed away uh at a very young age right he did and and uh he was one of sharon taylor's best friends oh yeah and uh she's she's still saddened when she talks of him i'll bet i'll bet yeah i'm sorry sharon sorry for your loss that's uh that's awful news but when you were at that u of t radio did you

also cross paths with uh the only fotM to pass away, Andrew Crystal? Oh, yeah, very much so. Andrew Crystal and I had a checkered history together. I know a lot, but I never put it in public. But is there anything on that note you'd put in public? I'm not asking. Well, I don't want to defame a guy who's passed on. He was an odd fellow, and so I won't defame him,

but I will say this. He harassed me for about a year and a month. That's not defaming him at all. Well, and it's a fact. There are witnesses and so forth. Anyway, I don't mean to defame him. Well, you wouldn't say it. But the thing is, no, and I don't want to go into details,

but it was an uncomfortable relationship, I would say. Let's put it that way. But I didn't really know him well after that period. The last time I saw him in person was probably, oh gosh, it was probably 1989 or 90, something like that. And before that, it was in the early 80s that I knew him, late 70s even. So I really didn't know him that well ultimately, but we had some uncomfortable that I knew him. Late 70s even. So I really didn't know him that well ultimately. But we had some uncomfortable dealings.

Let's put it that way. Well, 1,146 episodes. He's the only one no longer with us. And that's a pretty good record. So you're in good stead. Hey, I'm feeling good. David, you're going to live a long time, man. Yes, thank you. Good.

Thank you. I think Brian McFarlane, when I had him on, he was 89. I think he's still going for a 5K run every day. Wow. Brian's a great guy. I know Brian. Okay. Yeah.

And he is a great guy. And I think he might have just like wrote a book, like a memoir or something. He's got great stories. Yeah. Oh boy, does he ever. I was actually at his 50th wedding anniversary. Oh, wow. Wow.

And it was fascinating because all these old hockey players were there. And I looked around the room and it was like the 67 Stanley Cup room. There were Montreal Canadiens players there, Toronto Maple Leaf players there. I sat with my wife, with Bobby Bond, Johnny Bauer, Carl Brewer's widow, and Red Kelly at the same table that night. I remember it. It was many years ago. It was really cool. I dated a woman who looked like Punch Imlach.

But that's a different story. Oh, that's funny. What was this? I'm trying to remember now. His dad wrote the Hardy Boys? Is that the right story? Yes, his father was a work-for-hire writer on the Hardy Boys. Wow.

He wrote a lot of those books. Isn't that a fun fact, Blair? That's a fun fact, right? That really is. I had no idea. Yeah. The stories, the things you learn by having conversations. They would pay them a small amount of money,

and they would literally ghostwrite them, and that would be that. Wild, wild. So that is to say, David, you will live a very long time. Thank you. I'm looking forward to that. But I need to get back now.

Blair, I got to get back on track because he was about to reveal what else transpired at TMLXX when he and Mark Weisblatt had that summit. Well, yeah. We just had a nice conversation. It was great. You were going to go for a beer and then you had personal, I don't, we just had a nice conversation. It was great. It was,

you were going to go for a beer and then you had a personal, I don't know, stuff happening in your life. Yeah. Just, you know, life got in the way. That's all.

Nothing, nothing major. But I meant, I always meant to get back to him and arrange a time and cause he'd left the ball in my court and never got around to it. But you've been listening. Oh, religiously.

I, I really enjoy his appearances on Toronto Mike. I like that he calls you Toronto Mike during the show. That's how he addresses you. It's the brand. It's respectful. Yeah, he sticks with the identity. Even though you've known each other a long, long time,

he doesn't just call you Mike. It's Toronto Mike. Yeah, and I like that. And I liked in this last episode um how he was sort of petulant at the beginning because you were trying to get to the you know you you didn't get to the 1236 uh the latest developments in the 1236 thing either fast enough or slow enough i can't remember what it was but he was he was sitting there we were like annoyed with you because you had you didn't mention it in your intro oh he likes to be uh introduced as an fotm hall of famer oh that's

right and i forget i always do forget to put that in the notes right there was that but also the the 1236 thing because he had an announcement to make as i recall well i did need a like that was the first month in a long time we did not receive receive a single issue of the 1236 newsletter. Like at 1236 p.m., we're supposed to get a newsletter from this gentleman. And throughout October, that did not happen. He was sleeping in or something. I don't know. Like, I mean, he said he was working on other things and he's kind of planning his next move.

Did you think, again, pretend he's not listening. Yeah, yeah. Like when you listened to his last episode, because I had a couple of notes from people who said they thought Mark Weisblatt sounded a little bit sad. Did you think he sounded sad? Or what's your thoughts on that? Candidly and sincerely, I thought maybe, yeah.

I heard it from a lot of people. It actually did occur to me. And I don't know if that's true. And he may object. And who knows, we may hear a whole episode about me. And Bluff Hockham says, you know if that's true and he may object and who knows, we may hear a whole episode about me and Bluff Hockham says, you know, that's my impression.

I'm not going to do it anymore, Mark. I'd really like to meet this guy. Oh, he's a... We can arrange that. He's a real character and I don't know him very well, but he seems like a great guy. Yeah, I'd like to meet him.

Can you... Okay, I know you don't want to do another Wiseblood impression, but can you do an impression of Mark Wiseblood doing Arlene Bynum? Oh, I forgot how that went, actually, Arlene. I know he said she was,

he described her as always really nice, but that's all I remember. Yeah, so the short answer is no. No. I had a note. I think you might have even texted me. I think I might have, saying that I would do that

remind me to do an impression of Mark Weisblatt doing Arlene Bynum and I literally took a note because that was very exciting to me and now you're like oh I'm bailing but I've forgotten maybe David can do one I don't know either of these people

so I think it would be a really bad impression Arlene Bynum though did he not do an impression himself yeah he did he did a lengthy one and he and yes and she and she was so i think he said she was sort of fake nice or something he he qualified the niceness a little pretentious and a little like that actress thing i was talking about oh yeah tell us about the actress thing so so when david before he pressed me yeah so when david meets an actress this is what happens well it doesn't always happen but i'm talking more like 40 years ago okay we would be at parties yeah musicians actors and someone would say always a little bit of tension i found between the the actors and the musicians so you get introduced to an actress

yes and it's like this is my friend david Steinberg. And they look at you and they put one foot out and they go, hello, David Steinberg. I can picture it. I can absolutely picture it. Like the ballerina pose, you know, like the one foot goes out. Yes. Right.

The plie. Yes, that's what it's called. I have important context to add to the, you know, the Arlene Bynum imitation that Mark Weisblatt was doing. This is courtesy of Mark himself, who's watching live at live.torontobike.com. He just wants me to point out that that imitation was because Roz Weston was trashing Arlene Bynum in his book. So there's a little context as to why Mark Weisblatt was breaking into an Arlene Bynum imitation.

I have to say, it's not like I heard him break into that impression on a regular basis. No, that was definitely, he did a very lengthy and thorough review of, I'm just, there's a lot of questions for you, Blair, and I don't want, I'll save them, but there's questions for you about music. Oh, that I can answer. It's all good. I wanted to say to you both that you are invited

to TMLX 11, which is on December 3rd. So David, I don't know if you're around December 3rd. It's a Saturday. It's at noon. It's at Palma's Kitchen. Palma Pasta's HQ, if you will, in Mississauga they will feed us I'm going to meet up with Great Lakes

and make sure they give us more beverages to enjoy more IPAs and stickeru.com hopefully has some stickers for everybody and we're all going to have a good time I would like to actually meet and be introduced to not in that order the opposite order I'd like to be introduced to and meet

Mrs. Toronto Mike. Oh, she's upstairs. No, I was thinking you could wait until December 3rd, but sure. I don't know if she'll show up, but even before you leave today,

you get to meet, yeah. The famous Monica. The famous Monica. That's right. To prove she's real. Yes. Her name is Monica Mike. Oh, it's just me

doing an impression like this. Oh, I missed him again. That was Pokeroo. You guys are too old for Pokeroo. What about Bazooka Joe? I ate, yeah, there was comics in the Bazooka Joe gums. That's right. But I think the person posing the question to Bazooka Joe,

the guy with the sweater on his face, the turtleneck that was pulled up, I think his name was Mort. Mort, I think that is right. Mort asked the questions, Hey, Bazooka Joe! I always imagine, Hey, Bazooka Joe!

You guys are, again, older than me, and older than Wise Blight. I just watched a documentary on HBO that was all about the origin of Sesame Street. Right. So Sesame Street shows up in 69. Yes.

And it's just in time to be like everything to me. Okay. So like, I mean, I was a big Sesame Street viewer as a toddler

and a young boy. And I loved when Buffy St. Marie would show up and it was a big deal. You know, nobody could, no,

only Big Bird could see Snuffleupagus. And then he would tell the adults that Snuffleupagus was here. The adults would think he was bullshitting them. It was like, well. I think that's what he said, in fact. Bullshit! That's what he said. That's bullshit! I remember when Sesame Street came out and I felt I was too old for it.

Yeah, me too. And I was like, I think I would have been like eight. Yeah, I was ten. And if nothing else was on, if nothing else was on, I might watch like Grover for a couple of minutes or that Oscar by Grouch for a couple of minutes. These things are so like specific.

Like, and if you're off by one or two years, it doesn't hit. I know in this show, like there's this, you know, Gen X contingent where it's like, you know, Gen X contingent where it's like, you know, like with Retro Ontario and we're all growing up watching like Polka Dot Door and then it's,

TVO is breaking into Doctor Who and we're all getting traumatized. Like there's this shared experience. But if you're just a little bit off, like it doesn't hit at all. It doesn't. No, true. Like for us.

That's my excuse with the jitters, by the way. Everybody, everyone it turns out is just a little off from, it's not the band. For us, it was, you know, Commander Tom after school on, in Rocketship 7 on Saturday morning. And then we would watch Bugs Bunny Roadrunner Hour at 5 p.m. on Saturday. That's what we did. Flintstones was on at noon.

So Commander Tom, for me and my cohort, was a Sunday thing. So Sunday mornings was like a wasteland because I guess religious programming everywhere, it was terrible. Like the cartoons weren't on. But whatever that was, WI, whatever that Buffalo station was that had to...

WKBR. No. No, WIVB or something? Oh, it became that. Okay. That was Channel 4. IV stood for 4. It was Channel 7.

It was because the show was Rocket Ship 7 and that was in the mornings and in the afternoons it was Commander Tom. So I don't know what year it switches, but when I was growing up, it was Sunday was Commander Tom. Sunday morning. Oh, interesting.

Yeah. Yeah. I remember I had a meeting at fisher price in east aurora many years ago and i started talking about cheek to wanda or cheek to waga and ton of wanda and all the fires they were like how do you know those places and i said because in toronto we had buffalo tv yeah so we knew about all those yeah you. Yeah. Do you know where your children are? Yeah. And his, and his,

anyway, his complexion, I was just going to say. Okay. Crater face. That was a big Jesse and Gene bit, as I recall. Yeah.

He had a crater face Einstein. Interesting thing going on. Interesting thing going on. Yeah. He looked like the guys. Brian Adams has that going on and it kind of worked out. A lot of people do. I think it made him.

Yeah. No. It's, you know, it's, it made you notice do. I think it made him. Yeah. No. It made you notice him. I recorded Brian Adams many times at the El Macombo back in the day with Comfort Sound, Doug McClemmon, who you should really have on the show. I can't remember if I've ever. Were you going to hook me up with him?

You know I'm game for the good cause. I asked him, and he said sure. Did I email him? I'm going to go right now and I email him? Maybe you did. Doug McClemmon, he's got a million stories. He's walking history. He was at the Toronto Rock and Roll Revival. Hold on.

I have it in real time here. I wrote him on June 7th, the day after you guys were here. June 7th. And I, hi Doug. And there's a nice little spiel I gave him. And he didn't reply I told him about how we talked about him of Captain Phil

Captain shout out to Captain Phil and Brother Bill we talked about recording like the tragically hip and stuff at CFNY festivals and you guys he wrote back on the 7th of June like same day that's more like yeah like he did the same day and he was into it and then i wrote

him back oh my goodness and i wrote a july date would be fab those are my exact words and then it dies on the vine i wonder how many great combos i missed out on because you probably got busy i have to read i'm gonna just i'm gonna hold on now just sitting with Blair. Hold on. You don't need to say the last name. And David. Same thing. You don't need to last name. Thinking we should finally make this magic happen.

Done. Sent. A million stories. Getting business done tonight. He was at the Toronto Rock and Roll Revival where John Lennon played his first show outside of the Beatles with Eric Clapton on guitar. He saw Led Zeppelin at the O'Keeffe Center and took photos. He saw Led Zeppelin at the O'Keeffe Center, but also at the Rockpile.

Oh, at the Rockpile, sorry. No, both, but the Masonic Temple. He was there. He saw Jimi Hendrix open for Herman's Hermits. I thought it was Herman's Hermits, but it might have been the monkeys yeah i think it's the monkeys yeah and he but he was he was at all these shows but plus he's recorded everybody you can think of yeah you know well look i'm gonna make that happen yeah yeah we're gonna talk all maybe they maybe uh he can do a wise blood impression from it ask him about the Scorsese SCTV doc?

Yeah, the SCTV doc because I believe he's allowed to talk about that now. Yeah, that's going to be the whole 90 minutes. Are you kidding me? You heard the Dave Thomas episode, right? I did, yeah. Sounds like a bunch of stuff we've got to talk about there.

Where else do I want to go? The kids were not in school today, my two youngest that you guys met earlier, because there was no school today, because there was a QP strike, but apparently they're back in school tomorrow. Yeah. Because everything's gotten back to normal.

Everything's fine now. I saw the rather strange press conference talking about them going back tomorrow. Yeah. They are going back tomorrow. He was squirming a little bit, Premier Ford. Shocked. Yeah.

Shocked that people would have a problem with any of this, I think. Yeah. The notwithstanding clause. Right. You know, and so forth. I have opinions on this, but they're not that radical, I don't think. Well, share your opinion. I'm of the opinion that if the Green Belt had a union,

we might have a chance there. Yeah, well, there's so many things. I mean, to me, sorry, folks, the conservative playbook is to tear everything down, make it work badly, and then say, well, we've got to scrap it. And coming up next, the health care system. And it's because people didn't vote.

The lowest voter turnout in the last provincial election, I believe, ever. And that's what happens. If there was somebody to inspire people to come out and vote against Doug... Agreed, agreed. Stephen Del Duca is an FOTM, but I don't think he was inspiring anyone

to get out and vote, except for us guys who vote every time anyways. No, agreed. And Ford is such a natural lightning rod for publicity that uh even when he goes to the cottage for three months at a time uh that it's hard to to beat that you know so uh i get it i get it but i don't like it no sir okay i want to share it with everybody so i had a lot this is kind of a lot of house clean keeping stuff and then we're gonna talk about whatever and you guys are gonna play live which i'm very excited about and then i have some music that some recorded music to play and talk about but i've been getting a lot of feedback lately regarding the steve simmons episode of toronto mic'd i think it was

last week yeah aired last monday i think recorded last monday and it seems like all the feedback's falling into one of two buckets. Bucket one is, that was a great episode. You're the best interviewer in the history of the world. Okay, that's a bucket. That's a good bucket. Second bucket is like, I will never listen to this

episode and you should fry in hell for having him on. He's a horrible racist person. So these are the two buckets and everything's falling there. But the reaction's been amazing. And those who have listened seem to have kind things to say about it. And I just wanted to share that with you.

Well, okay. So I'm ignorant. I don't know who that is. He's a sports writer for the Toronto Sun. And has he been controversial with his opinions? Okay. And where do you controversial with his abuse? Okay. And where do you land on him? Because I don't know him at all.

Anytime Toronto Mike does a sports thing, I'm like, I don't know what that is. When Pagan told me he loves all episodes except for CFNY episodes. And if Pagan, because I do quite a few CFNY kind of centric things. And he says, if it's a CFNY episode he passes like that's the only episode of

Toronto Mike apparently he's passing on or anything the CFNY episodes which I'm like that's cool like whatever but David Quinton Steinberg firstly I want to know like what kind of sports fan are you like are you a casual fan or a big fan what are you a fan of and what can you share with Blair about the

controversial Steve Simmons? Well, I tend to watch sports when something exciting is happening. So like if the Toronto Blue Jays were going deep into the playoffs, I'd start watching. I'm mostly a hockey guy. I don't watch every game. Like my kid will tell me what's going on.

There's 82 of them. Yeah, it's a lot. And once in a while i'll go to a game and i'll watch those very effective eight and a half minute encapsulations of games like i was doing that last night i watched the leafs and the bruins in eight minutes saw who scored that sort of thing you see everything worthwhile in those yeah you just don't see it live yeah i mean as Yeah. I mean, as far as Steve Simmons goes, I think that he is the kind of writer who likes to stir up controversy. And I think he enjoys saying things that are going to stir the pot. Right. So, you know, basically what he said, I don't know, maybe you want to encapsulate it to Ron and Mike.

This is the Akeem Alou comments. He basically said, Akeem Alou is doing ads right now that are sort of like, I guess they're for a bank, but they're about how we need more diversity in hockey. I think that's the spirit of these ads. Akeem Alou, by the way, is a black man who played professional hockey. Okay. And he's had experience, he's gone public with racism

he experienced in the sport of hockey so i think the simmons would basically something very short little note thing he would say uh it's uh i wonder like the people the coaches he's had over the years on his like 12 leagues and 18 teams over 12 years or whatever it must be uh i don't know what his terminology was were they cringing when they see that ad or were they wincing when they see that ad like and don't say it's because of race because wayne simmons has been playing uh had a steady stable career for that same stretch of period and wayne simmons is another black uh nhl name check some other black nhl players who hadn't, who,

who played the national hockey league. Yeah. And, um, I think he was kind of saying that, um, this gentleman was using it as an explanation or an excuse, the racism as to why he couldn't move up the ladder.

So he was saying, well, why this guy moved up the ladder. I, I'm going to tell you, I thought it was horrible and i'll tell you why i think it's horrible tell me you cannot comment on the racism that any particular individual experiences because it's their individual experience it

doesn't matter if someone else didn't experience it it matters if that particular person experienced it right so i did not like the article and i i thought it was awful i know what he was trying to do he was trying to say um don't blame everything on racism. Maybe it's your skill and your ability, but wasn't there, but that's not the point. The point is, is that this guy is talking about his individual experiences and racism and hockey heaven for fend. Yeah.

I cannot imagine that ever happening. I mean, come on. Even I, the, the, not even a casual fan. I,

you know, I can see it well i will tell you when my kids played the amount of anti-semitism that they experienced when they were 14 15 16 yeah holy wow shit man yeah it was like really intense and of course you know like a lot of racism on the ice or you know um anti-gay comments or whatever on the ice, you call the ref over because I was coaching a lot in those days. You call the ref over and you say, listen, this is happening. And the refs will often say, I didn't hear it. I'm sorry. There's nothing I can do.

I didn't hear it. I can do. I didn't hear it. So, you know, what I used to do as a coach is I would say, well, would you go please talk to the coach on the other team and tell him it's number 19, number 16, and number 14. They keep doing this. Just talk to them. And you know, often that could be effective. Right. Right. Yeah. But there's, there's a lot of bad stuff on the ice, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not at all surprised to hear that what i asked steve we went you know toe-to-toe for over two hours and i asked him i said like who are we as two white men who are we to like how the hell do we know what racism that akim aloo uh experience like like how could we ever know that and uh he did what i what he did i didn't like which was he pulled this

if you knew what i knew, you'd understand. No, no, no, no. You should hear this. Please. You should hear this. Give me a break. This is what we got. Give me a break.

You know what? It's almost like saying, well, Sheldon Kennedy did not have a storied NHL career. Theron Fleury did so much better. Right. And Theron Fleury was sexually abused by graham james just like sheldon kennedy so it must be a skill problem are you crazy it's each person suffered the abuse in their own way internalized it and dealt with it in their own way you can never comment on what the individual has experienced sorry to to rant, but that's how I feel.

No, I agree with you. The other thing too is assuming that somebody is saying, like blaming the racism for why they didn't get farther ahead, when they may just be blaming the racism. They may just be talking about that racism. In other words, not saying, and that's why I didn't,

you know, right. You know, get farther or whatever. Like it's the assumption that that's what they're talking about. They're not talking about that. They're talking about their experience. That's right.

And, and the way it impacted them. Yeah. Uh, which could be on many different levels in many different ways. Some of which you probably can't even describe when you're the victim of that. Yeah. You know,

well, I can't imagine from my perspective, I can't imagine. I have no idea. And I do know that if you want to bring it back to a musical lens here, I can tell you that Steve Simmons is the cousin of Stephen Page. No kidding. Isn't that funny?

I had a text exchange with Stephen Page tonight. I'll, I'm going to share it with you guys. If you saw Steve Simmons, Blair, you'd see that there might even be a similarity in the way they look, kind of. Okay, cool. So I sent a note to Stephen this afternoon saying, forgot to send this to you

when I got it a while back. It was on Instagram. I got a note on Instagram, a DM. Hello, I'm Steve Page, close crew member. Thanks so much for being one of our fans. He will also like to know more about you, and you are very lucky for me to take time out of my time to message you. So I wrote to Steve and I said,

if you really like to know more about me, please just ask. And then I said, I mean, I realize I am very lucky for him, her to take out of their time to message me. But, and he said, you really are lucky when they say close crew member, they mean monitor engineer. He wants to talk about graphic EQs with you. I asked him to get your opinion on the Clark Technic stuff. Talking about a famous graphic EQ. Stephen you. I asked him to get your opinion on the Clark Technic stuff. He's talking about a famous graphic EQ. Stephen's great. He is great.

You could have replied and said, yeah, I was back up for if I had a million dollars. You may remember me. I'm in the chorus. Hugely talented and good guy. He's a great guy. What a fantastic guy. All right, more housekeeping.

This is the first time, I think, on Toronto Mike that this has been mentioned, but Cam Gordon, a regular on this program. In fact, he's also an FOTM Hall of Famer. He's got the most appearances outside of yours truly on Toronto Mike, this Cam Gordon. Forever, I've been sort of, you know, introducing him, Cam Gordon,

Director of Communications at Twitter Canada. Well, I have to change that introduction because Cam Gordon was musked. Oh. So Elon Musk reducing the payroll there, chopping, I don't know, about 50% of the staffers. Cam got caught up in that. So I was at Stu Stone's new movie, Vandits. Right.

Thursday night. Yeah. Which was great. And I think maybe only a couple hours later, he got the email that his services are no longer required. It's a shame. It is a shame. It's a real shame.

What do you think? I mean, I'm a prolific tweeter, and Blair, I see you on Twitter. I don't see you, David. You don't tweet, right? No, I don't. I can't even find you on there. So, you know, there were so many fire hydrants to pee on. I just chose a couple and where are you peeing?

Like Instagram and Facebook, Facebook for the old people and Instagram for the slightly less old people. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I, I, I use Instagram once in a while and mostly I like to read what other people are posting and doing and Facebook once in a while. Um, like to read what other people are posting and doing. Yeah. And Facebook once in a while.

Not as much. But I find that there's so much, you know, it's trite and contrived to say, but I find that there's so much negative, horrible stuff on these platforms. Well, it depends who you follow. Yeah. That's what I find with Twitter because people, you know, I listen to Jon Stewart's podcast, The Problem with Jon Stewart, which is really great. And he, he talked about Twitter being a cesspool of hatred and so forth. And I thought, I don't find it that way for me. But it really depends on who you follow.

It depends, right. And what seeps in. Yeah. And I'm, and I, you know, I admit that I'm a little siloed because I do follow people who I like and whose opinions I tend to agree with, you know. Liz Braun. I'm shouting out Liz Braun because i follow her since she came on that was so random i'm still frank zappa i i really ken hensley and mick box from uriah heap delano roosevelt Delano Roosevelt. Wait, Mick Box from...

Liz Braun is still alive. Mick Box, the only human being who is as tall as he is wide. Wow. So he's a box. He's a box. Mick Box, man. No, Mott the Hoople. I don't know.

Liz Braun, I enjoyed your talk with her so much. She seemed very lovely. Like you would never imagine she wrote for the Toronto Sun. Well, I have a bias about the Sun, but I got to say Mary Dickey, who was music critic there for years, is a friend of mine and I love Mary. Okay.

And she's fantastic. Shout out to Mary Dickey. Mary Dickey. Who else wrote for the Sun who I love as well? There's a few, but they're not there anymore. Yeah, there's a few, but they're not there anymore. Yeah, there's a bit of... There's the guy who wrote about pop culture stuff there forever.

Wilder Penfield III? No, after him. But anyway, he sends me the odd notes. I don't know why I'm stumbling with his name. I almost called him the Duffer, but he's not the Duffer, but it'll come to me. Okay, so... Gary Dunford.

Yes, Gary Dunford. Why am I calling him the Duffer? He's Dunf, theer but it'll come to me okay so gary dunford yes gary dunford why am i coming the duffer he's done the dump okay so gary dunford he also likes the mark wise blot appearances and i used to get uh notes from him after those episodes he seems i never i don't think i ever met him but he seems like a nice fellow the most uh like today i tweeted on i was gonna ask you more about twitter there blair but I was on Twitter today and I tweeted about, I just tweeted, my butter tarts include raisins. That's true. I like raisins in my butter tarts. Me too.

I like pecans and I like them plain. And I like them with the bottom kind of crust, crunchy, and the liquid just flowing. Yes, but only if the liquid can flow if there's raisins in there. Well, okay, my ex-wife tainted that for me a little bit, Arlene Bishop, the great singer-songwriter Arlene Bishop. You were married to Arlene Bishop. I was.

She described the raisins in butter tarts as flies. No, no, no, they're good. David, what say you? They're good. Do your butter tarts include raisins? 100%. So Monica, who you're going to meet later. No, no, raisins can go in anything, man.

I like raisins too. They're nature's candy. Well, this is why Arlene and I split. Well, that's raisins can go in anything, man. I like raisins too. Nature's candy. Well, this is why Arlene and I split. Well, that's what I'm saying. I think that's where I'm heading. That's where I'm heading. It was the raisins. Monica doesn't like raisins in her butter tarts,

and she's wonderful, but this might be a deal breaker for me. Yeah, it's not good. I'm not doing well with it at all. You can only put up with so much. Well, the people that hate raisins really hate them too. It's like a big... Like the people who hate cilantro. You know?

That's a whole other world. Or who hate broccoli. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had broccoli tonight. Deal with it. So did I. The hateables. We are the hateables. We are the hateables. Ed of a Coke. Oh yeah, David was telling me a story when we were We are the hateables. We are the hateables. Etabacoke.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. David was telling me a story when we were talking on the phone coming out here. What? Oh, he talked about an American guy that he heard an interview with. No, no. He had a meeting in Etobicoke, and he called me and he said, yeah, I've got a meeting in Etabacoke. You've probably heard this before

no but there was a documentary about the the guy some guy terrible killed a guy and like mailed

his body parts to the prime minister or something what? yeah this is fairly recent his name was Lucas Magnata

Canada Post? oh right Lucas Magnata does that matter? yes but they made a documentary about him and it was on Netflix or something, called something

about cats, because I guess he used to torture cats before he moved to humans. Yeah. Oh, yes, as one does. And then he, in that documentary, they talk about Etobicoke, and they pronounce it just like you did. Say it again. Etobicoke. Yeah.

That's pronounced in the doc, and it kind of went locally viral. Oh, my God. Listen to how they're calling it. Wow. That's funny. I didn't know that. That's amazing all right so still yeah let's listen for a moment and then we'll talk to david about this Make up your mind That I'm gonna try I'm gonna ask the questions right

But I Can't decide Make up your mind Who's drumming on this track? That would be me. You. The guy in my basement right now is drumming on this Stiv Bader's track. And that's who's playing guitar.

Wow. George. Wow. George passed away in 2020. I know we covered a lot of the Stiv Bader's ground last time you were here, but do you have any stories you can share about playing with stiff baiters it'd be cool well since we're listening to this um we recorded this album disconnected in september 1980 um at leon russell's studio paradise sound um and then part of it a place called perspective sound where they had

um basketball court and we recorded a lot of the backing tracks on the basketball court at perspective sound that was really really cool uh it had this cavernous kind of natural reverb and everything and um yeah and we slept all day and stayed up all night. And, uh, when we were doing that record, um, and Steve, you, you never knew exactly when he was going to show up or in what state he was going to show up or with whom, right. You know? So it was always, always kind of a challenge with him. A blessing in disguise, vivid dreaming A psychic engine ride, vivid dreaming

Seeing friends I have never known It's complicated with no meaning What are we listening to, David? That's one of my new songs. I've been recording an album over the last couple years, actually. Where do you find the time, though? You're a lawyer to the stars? Well, when the plague came in, there was lots of time. And I said to my wife one night,

I can't just sit and watch Netflix. I'm going to kill myself. So I went down to the basement and started writing again. I'm going to kill myself. So I went down to the basement and started writing again. And I started these recordings with my lifelong friend, Anton Evans, who owns a wonderful recording studio in Bowmanville. And that's the two of us together. There's a zoo in Bowmanville.

There was. They closed the zoo because of the abuse of the elephants. You might remember that story. Oh, Bob Barker stepped in? Yeah, they closed that zoo because of the abuse of the elephants. You might remember that story. Oh, Bob Barker stepped in? Yeah, they closed that zoo fast. Anyway, this is me and Anton only on this track. He's playing guitars and bass, and I'm playing piano and drums and singing and blah, blah.

Okay, let's listen a bit, and then I want Blair Packham's honest review here. Let's listen. Yes, please. Breaking news. I have a reply from Doug McClement. Hi, Mike. My schedule is a lot more open between now and the new year than it was in September and October.

So I'm sure we can find a mutually convenient time slot. That's awesome. So this is going to happen. So I will mark it as unread so i get back to it later but that's some exciting stuff now blair in your honest opinion is this a uh is this a good jam or a piece of shit let's hear the real talk i was six out of ten i was acting for the camera during the playback of that i was stroking my beard pointing and then touching my nose and uh uh yeah i was taking it in um it's like jukebox jerk that's right i like it because it's got a good beat and you can dance

to it no um i think it i think it's it's brilliant and it's lovely and i love david's voice you know david was in the jitters for 100 years and and on and off. And he didn't sing. Like, we never heard him sing. So hearing him sing is always a joy and it's fresh to me because it's a new voice. The drums sound fantastic. It's stuff that I couldn't write. And that's a good

thing. Who are the best singing drummers? Like, I mean, Levon Helm jumps out of the line. Don Henley. Don Henley. Don Henley. Gil Moore from Triumph. I suppose. And Gil Moore, yeah. Okay.

As much as I love Ringo. Dave Grohl, maybe? Dave Grohl. Dave Grohl. Yeah. As much as I love Ringo, I would say not Ringo. But he was in a band with some really pretty good singers. So I hear.

You know who the greatest drumming singer was of all time? It's Andy Sturmer from Jellyfish. Really? I don't even know if I know this voice. He's a monster singer. That doesn't resonate with me. I think that's a band that you'd really dig. I would dig Jellyfish.

They were incredible. Yeah, they are. They were incredible. Yeah, they are. They were incredible. I just kept thinking of you. Messed up my life. Blame it, rock and roll. And then he cried for thunder. I just kept thinking of her. Confusing lies, infusing rock and roll.

This sounds like it was recorded Confusing lies, confusing rock and roll This? Sounds like it was recorded in the elephant cage at the Bowmanville Zoo. Paul Barker on backup vocals. I think I hear him in the mix there. I can't believe I subjected myself to that. I meant it as a compliment. Because it was a big sound. A big elephant sound. And the horns were, you know, I love the horns.

Wait, there aren't any horns. Listen, lawyer by day and then by night you're creating art. It's amazing. It is amazing. I noticed it's credited to David Quinton. Like Steinberg gets tossed aside when you're

rocking out like this. When I'm doing my own stuff, yeah. I need to ask you a question. For continuity purposes. Toronto Mic'd is here for you, Blair Packham. What? I didn't. Anyway.

I thought it was Toronto Mic Ed. Once in a while, like somebody will write a nice, nice thing, but they'll say Toronto Mic'd was M-I-C apostrophe D. Yeah, no, that's the Irish version. I get a lot of it. Like shite. Blair, I'm ready. Okay.

Hit me, Vane. What was my question? Hold on. I had a question. Oh, my God. It's absolutely gone. It's going to come back to you. We're listening to you.

Something to do with... Quinton. Oh, yes. Did David Quinton tell us last time? I don't remember. Did David Quinton tell us the Japan story? Yes. You don't remember.

I think you should tell it again. Tell it again. Greatest hits. It's so good. Give him the hits. I love this story. David told me this story, and all I could think about was myself. I was like, how can I do that?

I want to do that. How can I do that? Give it to us. DQ. Well, I, uh, in 2018, which seems like a million years ago now, I, um, met some, um, Japanese people and a club owner named Fifi who owns owns a place called Poor Cow in Tokyo. And they're really big fans of that era, you know, sort of 77 to 80 power pop and new wave.

And they know all about Bomp Records, where I was with Stiv, and Bomb Records, where I was in my solo stuff. So I went in there and I played some songs for them just on piano and there were a number of people there that knew the stuff and it was just such an incredible experience so I went back in 2019 and played a handful of shows with a band this time we did Kyoto and Tokyo. And it was, again, a phenomenal experience. So much fun. And I want to go back and do it again. The thing I want to emphasize in this story

is that David hadn't played his own songs in years, in decades. No, I hadn't. And so it was a complete surprise that they were interested. Yeah. I mean, they were, you know, aware of an album that I had made 40 years before, which I thought was dead and buried and done and that nobody in the world knew about it. Well, yeah, on a very tiny, tiny scale. Because it was not thousands of people. Searching for Quentin, searching for DQS. I love i love that story that that's that's amazing well the great thing about poor cow is if you have you know 35

to 50 people in there it's packed and so it's very intimate yeah oh in the venue i thought you meant in japan yeah yeah no not in japan proper but in the venue. So you know how like when you play sauce, you don't need a lot of people to fill that place. And Poor Cow is very similar to that. I see. You don't need a lot of people. And it's very intimate and they're sitting right in front of you. And they were very moved to see you.

Yeah. There were people who had tears in their eyes. They were asking you to autograph the record from 1980. Yeah. A lot of them had the vinyl albums and wanted me to sign them for them. It was surreal, man. Surreal. I have a question.

How do I get in on that? Yeah. Like, where, is there a part of the world where, like, they're worshiping this jam. Yes. And it's like, they have statues. They're like, they all have the pineapple. They're like, where is this god? I gotta...

When we played the last show, the one that Geddy Lee was at, the Jitters. Remember they did the last Jitters show at Hughes Room. There was an Asian fellow there that had Jitters albums

and was getting you guys to sign them. And had come from somewhere in Asia. I'm not sure where he came from. Yes, I can't remember what country. A country in Asia. Came as a fan to this show. To Canada because so much music in Canada he loved. And when he saw the jitters

were playing he came with his album it wasn't the philippines was it no i don't think so no i for some reason i think maybe korea korea or made yeah taiwan maybe maybe thailand i can't remember which country he was from but yeah there's an example of it right there okay and i think the interesting thing in japan is there's a lot of subcultural music love there you know like there are people in japan that love southern rock and that love california soft rock and love punk so you know there are people that have these interests and you don't know um until you go or ask you know is david quinton steinberg on this jam right now that i'm listening to no i'm not you're gonna bring that up this is a sore spot um is this the album version this is the album yeah this was the the david quinton steinberg being fired version yeah i'm not on this. We still haven't talked about it

so I guess we will tonight. It's an intervention. David and I, we have to repair our relationship. And I have flashbacks. I remember your hand might be on the album cover. No, I am on the album cover. You're on the album cover, right. At the R.C. Harris water treatment plant.

There's a picture of us. Blair is the whole story. And one of my hands came out very large. Right, the huge arm. I do remember this, the composite of the huge arm. Yeah. Why were you fired? Well, I think it was multiple reasons. You really want to know, huh?

Yeah. Okay. No, it's okay. This is the home of real talk. It's okay. I can do it now. It's like this. First of all, I was going to law school at the time.

London, Ontario. In London, Ontario. Oh, you were late for everything. Well, I was trying to juggle both for a while. I do. You actually told us this. But that's not the real reason. Okay, let's use the real reason.

That's only one of the reasons. Okay. The reason is the producer of the record, who really wanted to direct how it was going to be made he he owned the studio and was giving us the recording time for free so we kind of felt obligated to do it his way do it his way and he i was not the right guy to play on this record given the way he wanted to make the record i mean you can hear right there i mean randy's playing it right yeah randy so randy and it's and it, right? Yeah, Randy Cook is playing it. And it's very of its time.

It's very 80s. It's very precise. The drumming is machine-like. And I was not like that. Yeah. This is not you either. He's not on this record at all. You can go through every song if you wish.

And I'm not on any of them. What are you trying to... It's just more and more salt. Every song is more salt every song yeah is more and i suppose you're not on this one either so whenever somebody surely you're on this whenever uh whenever eight-year-old jarvis comes up to me and goes dad the jitters one hit wonders right i always blast this song and i go one hit. Jarvis, go back to school. Go back. Educate yourself. Multiple Hit Wonders.

Yes. So in answer to the question, the producer did not want to use me on the record because I think I was too ragged and too... Too punk. Too rock and roll and all kinds of things like that. And he didn't want to make a record like that. So I was disinvited.

And it was a sore spot between us for three years. And to David's credit, he became friends with me. See, you guys are like the Dean McDermott and Mary Jo Eustace of rock and roll.

Yes, yes. And when I slept with David, it was a lot like when I slept with Mary Jo. And anyway, I didn't with either of them. It's more like a Stevie Nicks, Lindsay Buckingham

kind of a thing. David looks so amazing in those flowing dresses. Blair, tell me though, where did this peak on 680 CFDR? Do you know? Number 13, I think. I don't remember. But I can tell you this. Sharon Taylor, who I'm going to need.

Radio gal, your driver. Sharon is watching on this. She just sent me a text saying touch your nose and then I did that and then she said take out your dick so I'm not

but I would say Sharon I need you to get here because I need to get home soon so wear the little hat yeah

this time wear the hat yeah no but she would know of course because she was program director you know she's wonderful

yeah and when she was at T. You know, she's wonderful. Yeah. And when she was at TMLXX, Larry Fedorek was there. And Larry wrote me this nice note about, like, basically he worked, he was on the air at CFTR. Yeah. And how, like, there was a reunion, like, many decades in the work in there that he got to see Sharon Taylor again at my event. And they got to have a nice conversation. She was very happy to see Larry again and talk with him

and she felt it went really well because you work with people and who knows how it's going to be when you meet them 20 years later. She was happy to see him again too. Larry has a great podcast on the TMDS network. One day there will be a Blair Packham podcast on the TMDS network. One day there'll be a Blair Packham podcast on the TMDS network.

Cross your fingers here. That'd be good. See, I would have ruined this song. It's a good jam. Edmonton Oilers used this song in 1988. On their drive to the Stanley Cup that year. I thought you were going to say on their drive to the Stanley Cup that year. I thought you were going to say on their drive to the World Series. I don't know the sports terminology, but

all I know is every time they scored a goal, which they did many times, this would start playing. That's a good song for that. Wow. The Leafs should bring this back as their goal song. We're looking for a new goal song. The Leafs should bring this back as their goal song. We're looking for like a new goal song. The Leafs have had problems, you know, with the political correctness because they were

using Gary Glitter, Rock and Roll Part Two for years. And then they were using Meryl and Manson, Beautiful People for years. You got some problems. They got to choose people that, you know. That actually are not. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Oh, I don't have it all. I'm looking now at the file, and it's not going to give me everything, so don't get too excited over there. Or is this a short song? Five minutes. Five minutes? Okay, I don't have it. But the thing is, it fades down.

So, like, I just converted a YouTube video to MP3, but the fact that that fades down tells me that was just, like, on YouTube, that was just 40 seconds. So there's a longer version. But the video itself for Look Inside is on YouTube. Okay, what's the Look Inside? Look Inside, Envy of None.

And it's on all the DSPs. All right, official video. Hold on, 5.15. Official video. Okay, okay. Stand by, everybody. Here we go. Stand by, everybody.

Stand by the door. Stand by the door. Stand by the door. And you play on this song, Mr. Steinberg. I did and I do. You mentioned Geddy Lee earlier because now we're talking about Alex Lifeson.

And I'll just say on this day I do this thing on this day and there's a guy named Ron Davis who's a jazz musician i know ron and also a lawyer so musician and lawyer much like somebody else in this room well yeah and he told a great story about his mom would spend winters in florida with a lady they were both jewish and friendly and this lady would talk about her son was in a rock and roll band as well

and they'd be going, who's your son? and he'd go, Geddy, Geddy anyways, it turned out this was Geddy Lee's mom that befriended Ron Davis' mom in Florida during winter oh, that's a nice story and there's not a lot of musicians in this country

who are lawyers, are there? Maybe there are there are some, yeah is there like a club or something? A Facebook group? There are a lot of them in California. My friend Jackie Fox was the bass player in The Runaways. She's a lawyer. Okay. Maybe I was wrong. Okay, so what's this woman's name who's singing? That's Maya Wynn from Portland, Oregon. And she is absolutely brilliant.

And I get the... I'm now looking at her, which is something I can't see in an MP3. So this is even better here. Okay. Have you ever seen this video? No, I haven't. No. There it is. She's rather fetching.

Nice. Do people still say fetching She's rather fetching. Nice. Do people still say fetching? They do in the 1920s. I'm like Mr. Burns over here. That's right. 23 Skidoo. She's rather fetching. Safwan Javed from Widemouth Mason is a lawyer.

Oh, is he? Keep a list over here. Oh, so is the original drummer from Sparks. Really? Yeah. That's interesting. Harvey... I can't remember his name.

Wow. Interesting. Did you tell me last time how you hooked him? You must have. But how do you end up in Alex Lifeson's new project, Andy of None? Well, I'm friends with...

You're his lawyer. Alex, I'm Alex's lawyer, and I'm friends with Andy Curran. Who's an FOTM. Yes, he is. Coney Hatch. So yeah, it was kind of like a little bit of a friend. Don't you think Coney Hatch should have been bigger?

Coney Hatch should have been a bigger deal, right? Do you feel they were somehow like, I'm not saying they weren't a big deal. They were no jitters, but they should have been a bigger deal. No jitters. Yeah, I do think they should have been. I mean, they, they came up at that time. They, they, you know, had a certain kind of a sound. They were loud. They, they had great songs.

Carl was a great singer. Carl was a great singer. Carl is a great singer. Really, really wonderful voice. And yeah, they could have been much bigger, I think. I'll tell you something funny. When I recorded this drum track, my inclination was to play very lightly. And it was Andy who said,

no, play like you're a stoned 16-year-old, loud. And then we're going to deal with it in the mix. But play like flat-out cymbals and just loud. And that's what we ended up with. Wow. That was the concept. It has that quality. Now that you mention it, it has that quality

because it's a little flayly and washy with the symbols and so forth and yet it's a sort of a meditative track really yeah but it's like there's a drummer it's like what was the muppets bringing it full circle to the animals animals sitting in the background there you know the best that sesame street documentary that you brought me back to now i I did not know how Jim Henson ended up on the project. This project existed before Jim Henson was involved. And Jim Henson was doing ads with Muppets. Muppets, Muppets. And they were aimed at adults.

It wasn't a kid's thing yet, Muppets. And then they had a meeting with Jim and they brought in the Muppets. The rest is history. It's quite a happening, man. Quite a perfect storm. It was really cool. You should check it out. But I have a question that's come in

from a Cambrio on live.torontomic.com and wants to know, what is the first song that you, Blair Packham, learned on guitar? Probably, well, there's two of them that I would answer. When I was a kid, a little kid, and I really didn't consider myself even remotely a guitar player,

I learned Pictures of Matchstick Men by Status Quo. Oh, yeah. Because it's one string. I'm going to play it for you right now. Down, down, down, down, down, down. Blair's getting his guitar. Whoa. You put a hole in my ceiling. Yeah, your basement's a little small. Yeah, it'll... Whoa. It's...

You put a hole in my ceiling. Yeah, your basement's a little small. Yeah, I broke my guitar, but never mind that. Wow. And that was the intro. Okay, make it stop. I love that song. It's a great song, actually.

Stuy-is-quo. Stuy-is-qu song. It's a great song, actually. Stay is quo. Stay is quo. When the Jitters played Wembley Arena, Danny and I, the other guitar player and I, were both playing Telecaster-style guitars, and we would do these moves where we'd move the neck, you know, like rock and roll together, you know, synchronized. And a guy came up to us after and said,

it's just like stay is quo. It was like the quo. The way you move. came up to us after and said it's just like stay as quo it was like the quo you know the way the way you move and oh and nico mcbrain from uh from iron maiden came up to me and poked me in the chest quite hard and said now am i allowed to swear i can't remember yeah oh he said you rocked you fucking rocked like that and uh uh and i didn't know who he was but then somebody told me after speaking about andy curran yeah um have i ever told you the iron maiden soccer story no well we had the soccer team in 1982 in toronto called the music express soccer team oh yeah rick emmett was on it

i was on it a couple guys from teenage head f-o-t-m no one in teenage head okay wait a minute who gives a shit about that what What is this FOTM? What is this? I'm just kidding. I know exactly what it is. Tell me he's not getting his fucking lasagna. I know exactly what it is. I want his lasagna. If I take that back and say something good about the lasagna, can I be known as an FOTM?

Only if you say something good about this podcast. I can't take away the accreditation that you are an FOTM. David, name the song. Oh, yeah. Second song I learned how to play. This is for Cambrio. Can you sing it?

What have I got? Alice Cooper. Is it my body You just threw me off Yeah, thanks I want to play it I wanted to do it again Someone I might be

We're almost getting to the chorus Someone inside me Here we go You gotta tell me Tell me It's really up to you. If you've got the time to find out who I really am. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.

Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, that was a great song. That was the first song I learned how to play it oh man so um oh yeah now do i'm fotm fotm rick emmett is fotm yes okay so we had the soccer team and we used to play like little charity matches and things like that yeah and um keith keith sharp sharp was friends with these people who had who played in iron maiden so when they came to town we played a soccer game with iron maiden except one of them came out and scored i think eight goals on us in about four minutes and that was their bass player steve harris who's a very

good friend of andy currens okay and steve was a professional level uh soccer player before the band really took off. Wow. And he was phenomenal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Phenomenal. Anyway, nice guys. We had a really great afternoon with them 40 years ago. Okay.

Now, before we get back to more live music, because I do want you guys to play. I can't. This is exciting. Wake up. Keep talking. I like the. Wake up. Keep talking. I like the name, you know, sing along. You guys are getting another gift from me.

You each get a wireless speaker. I think there's two on the table. That's courtesy of Moneris. Oh, wow. Moneris sent over those Bluetooth speakers for you. Is this because we're FOTMs? Well, it's because you're FOTMs, and it's because you're going to use that wireless speaker

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Cohn is K-O-H-N. He's drumming up results. David Quinton Steinberg, he's got his drum kit ready to go. Blair's got a guitar. I'm going to shut up because I want to hear some live music. Damn it. I'm going to sing a song and David's going to play. Where's my capo, though?

Yeah, yeah. I did bring a capo. This is exciting, everybody. Oh, you never gave me my gifts yet. Don't forget to give me those wonderful gifts. Oh, that's right. I've got those gifts for you. Oh, you're just handing it over? Okay.

What did I do with my jacket? I got some gifts, everybody. Could have been King by Blair Packham. Could have been King. There's a dog. Is that your dog, Blair? That's King. That's King? Yeah. That's actually Danny Levy's dog. But, yes, I think it's in my in the pocket. What's dropped? Oh, is that my

pump? You owe me a new pump there. I gotta pump my bike. Blair Packham, Unpopular Pop. I like that title. I swear to God, man, thatpopular pop i like that is that an austin powers what was that austin powers i mean mike meyer's not an fotm but his brother from the gravel berries lovely paul you guys know the good friend of blair's paul yeah he's done the great uh the kids in the hall book. He married Arlene and I. He and his wife. You know what? Did I know that?

I don't know. You're blowing my fucking mind right now. I was on a beach in San Francisco. Unbelievable. And was Mary Jo Eustace there? She was there. She was singing. She was mad because I spurned her. I'm sure she doesn't remember me.

Wow. Aha. Capo. There we go. All right. I'm going to sing a sad song. Is that okay? Yeah, I want to be sad, actually.

There's a comfort in being sad. There is. Okay, here we go. All right. I'm going to sing a sad song. Is that okay? Yeah, I want to be sad, actually. There's a comfort in being sad. There is. Okay, here we go. In this key. Okay, here we go. So this is about my sister and I taking care of our mother as our mother declined. I just have to tune. Here we go. Lucy took another call

She knew would be recorded For the purposes of quality control She gave out some information She upgraded an account And briefly wondered what had happened some information she upgraded an account and briefly wondered what had happened to her soul she stretched

her neck and yawned and shrugged and thought about the weekend and how she'd finally have the chance to just sleep in but in her dreams she is soaring how she'd finally have the chance to just sleep in. But in her dreams, she is soaring out over the ocean, arms outstretched as wings, her hair shining in the sun. In her dreams, she is no prisoner of the day-to-day routine.

She really loves to fly in her dreams. Lucy glanced up at the time, and as her customer complained, she thought of how her mom's not doing great Confused and unhappy Lucy visits her on Tuesdays Trying not to think of her mother as a weight She listens as her customer Goes on and on and on

Then she offers all she could offer all along But in her dreams she is soaring out over the ocean Arms outstretched as wings, her hair shining in the sun. In her dreams, she is no prisoner of the day-to-day routine. She really loves to fly in her dreams. in her dreams It seems she either sleeps too much or barely sleeps at all

She wanders in a haze from day to day Feeling lonely is a luxury She knows others' lives are tougher and feels guilty when she wishes she could trade

hers for another. But in her dreams she is soaring out over the ocean. Arms outstretched as wings, her hair shining in the sun. In her dreams, she is no prisoner of the day-to-day routine.

She really loves to fly in her dreams. In her dreams, life is easy. Her mother's with her laughing. They keep each other's secrets and they hold each other's hands. In her dreams, she is so far away. And when she wakes She wonders if today Might be the day

She learns to fly Like she does in her dreams Amazing! Do I have... Okay, the crowd loves it. Oh, phew. I took some great video too honestly great you know a little like a slight warren zeevon uh thank you i love that there's a slight warren zeevon yeah uh texture to the voice thank you well done big fan of warren zeevon and a big fan

of david quentin steinberg by the way david uh so I've been playing a regular gig at this place called Sauce. Tell me about that. I was going to ask you about it when David brought it up. Yeah, well, it's a lovely little bar. I'm told it's has the vibe of a Victorian brothel, but I've never been to one of those, so I don't know. It's got a New Orleans thing. Yeah, and it's like red

flock wallpaper and kitschy stuff all over the place and an old piano in the corner. It's a lovely spot, but I was playing with my band there and then that ended and uh in the interim i've i've been still playing the wednesday nights there solo and a couple of times twice now david has just shown up with his stuff ready to play wow and he's and like i'm not speaking physically but but he has the biggest ears in town. Like he, David can play songs he's never heard before and they're covered by earphones right now, but he can hear anything and play along and it's just gorgeous. And yeah, it's just a real pleasure to play with him. Thanks Blair.

I've got the biggest ears and the biggest mouth. That's what a lot of people say. It's a combo. Biggest mouth in town. that's what a lot of people say it's a combo biggest mouth in town well we yeah it's it's it's really um a lot of uh fun very soul satisfying to play with him yeah well and yeah he's unbelievable and you know i get to listen to the songs and i love the songs so the fact that i'm sort of accompanying um is you know irrelevant for me i just like to hear him sing i like to hear him sing his material and and actually as a musician myself if i could go somewhere and sit and sort of

play along i'd rather do that often than go and just stand there and watch so i imagine for david it's sort of he gets to hear the songs but he also gets to play and i get the benefit of him playing so you know it works out pretty good and I'm honored you guys just played in my basement and I'm thinking we need to do this every six months. Like you two have to come on as a duo because now we did almost six months to the day. So you absolutely have to come back. I'm happy to report that Sharon Taylor

did finally pop into, at least chimed in on the chat at live.torontomike.com. She might've been lurking in the background the whole time. But she points out that she does not drive Blair Packham. And I would like to make an official

apology to radio lady Sharon Taylor and that, you know, I will no longer repeat that jokey lie that I've been spreading. She and Wise Blood are sitting outside your house writing. Sharon's awesome.

She writes, I'm kind of sweet on 1236. I think she's got a big crush on Wise Blood. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. I would not be surprised. And who could blame her, right? Who could blame her? Who could blame her? Yeah.

So, yeah, they're sitting outside right now, both mad at me. I loved this so much. Honestly, I think six months is too far away but jeez I will never get to be a Hall of Famer at that rate how many do you have to do to become a Hall of

Famer? No you can't quantify it that way it's about I'll know it when it like I'll just know it's more the importance. First of all there's only four yeah okay that's it and if i yeah the four one is retro ontario okay like yeah he's a you know one is mark wise blot yes look what he brings three hours a month we've heard a lot about tonight yes and the other two are stew stone and cam gordon who are my co-hosts for pandemic fridays to have the pandemic and now they're my co-hosts for toast right on like these this is a

you know it's harder to get into the FOTM Hall of Fame than any Hall of Fame, I think. I really wish I had gone to see Stu's movie. I didn't know that it was premiering. Okay, so that means you're not listening to Toronto Life. No, I was going to say it ran for another week, but isn't that week over now? Okay, let's

figure it out. So it debuted on Thursday, it was the premiere and then it said it was running for a week. I think it's still there. It's still there. I can still go. What film are we talking about? This movie is called Bandits. It's actually, no, straight up. I mean, he didn't pay me a penny.

I wouldn't say anything if I didn't think it was very good. It's a fun romp. Like, it's a fun movie. I enjoyed it. It is playing at the Scotiabank Theater. It's got one week theatrical run. And then David Kynes. You guys know David Kynes? Yes, I know

David, yeah. He takes it over and airs it on Hollywood Suites, but you should still have time to see it at Scotiabank Theatre. Just today we were talking about Tony Nappo, who's the star of this movie, but Jan Arden's in this movie. We're talking about Canadian musicians. Cool.

Awesome. Thank you guys so much. We're going to be taking our photo in the dark, but it would have been dark if we took it at 5 p. Cool. Awesome. Thank you guys so much. We're going to be taking our photo in the dark, but it would have been dark if we took it at 5 p.m. Exactly. No big deal. We should just wait

until 9 a.m. tomorrow when it's light again. Yeah. You guys can crash on the... We can play. We can play. We'll just play. And that brings us

to the end of our 1146th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. I'm still there. Blair is still there. He's at Blair Packham. You can follow him on Twitter. David's not there,

but he's got like an Instagram and a Facebook. You can find him. It's David Quinton Steinberg. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. Don't leave without your lasagnas. Sticker U is at Sticker U.

You guys got a sticker, a Toronto Mike sticker last time you were here, right? Good, good, good, good, good, good. Moneris is at Moneris. You've got your wireless speakers. Raymond James Canada are at Raymond James CDN.

Recycle My Electronics are at EPRA underscore Canada. Ridley Funeral Home are at Ridley FH and Canna Cabana. They're at Canna Cabana underscore. Sammy Cone. He's also drumming up results.

He's at Sammy Cone. And we'll see you all next week Because everything is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine, it's just like mine And it won't go away Because everything is rosy and gray Well, I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in france and i've kissed you in spain

and i've kissed you in places i better not name and i've seen the sun go down on but i like it much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true Because everything is coming up Rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow

Warms us today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is rosy now Everything is rosy and Everything is rosy and gray Thank you.