Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Bob Willette: Toronto Mike'd #721

Episode Date: September 15, 2020

Mike chats with Bob Willette about his current status in radio and what's next for him before he kicks out 5 job jams and 5 radio jams.

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and joining me this week is the east of young version of me. Sort of. Bob Willett. Welcome back, Bob. Good day to you, Mike. You know what? You've got to work on your creative department there. You still call it a weekly podcast in your liners there.

Yeah, but now I think it's ironic. Oh, you're doing it ironic? Okay. All right. So you're aware of it. I was going to say you need to update your script. Because you're right. That part comes from the back in the day.

I did one a week. Yep. Because I had a lot of things going on, including a full-time job. And I did one a week. And you're right. Now that I'm doing three or four a week, I think it's cute, like a wink wink to the legacy listeners, those who were there since you were. And on that note, I wanted to see, like,

when was your first visit and when was your most recent appearance on Toronto, Mike, because it wasn't a visit. And you go way back to episode 61. Yes, sir. Top 100. But I didn't do guests for the first 60 episodes. So you might be the third true guest on this program. I feel like maybe it was like Freddie P., Humble Howard, and then Bingo Bob.

Really? I think so. That's pretty cool. I'm honored to be amongst that group. And wow, and the start of this juggernaut that you have here it's pretty amazing maybe Alan Cross was like in the 60s and Jonathan Torrens

was in the 60s Jeff Merrick I think he was 74 but yeah you're 61 so this is the description I wrote for your first visit sure I think a bird literally just shat on my laptop it certainly looks like it. You know what?

It's beautiful. I got Lysol behind me here. I'm going to have to do that. Yeah, it's a good day, right? You're wearing a jacket. What are you wearing now? Raptors jacket? My Raptors, the street edition.

I ordered it on Real Sports. It was on sale. I'm not a shopper. I don't buy things. So when I saw this, and I'm just like everybody else, I'm fully on board with the Raptors. What does that cost you? This was only $45. It's a jacket.

No, and it's cool. Yeah. I like it. It's a Nike. It's got the Raptors, the Drake logo. Not the OVO, but the basketball. Oh, we call that the watermelon logo. Is that what you call it in your household? I think so. All right.

But I like it. No, it's like 45 bucks. I bought it in a TFC t-shirt. But you got a button-up shirt under it. Like, you look stylish. Well, you know what? Does somebody dress you? Does your wife dress you?

I did dress myself today, actually. But you know what? It looks stylish, but it's mostly Old Navy. Okay, but you fooled me, man. A little bit. You know what? Hey, I got to start looking good. You're going to make a segue into television.

Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. I'm going to be making a segue into something. Well, to be discussed. So Bob's got some news for us. But back to that episode 61. What did you say?

Okay. Mike talks to Bingo Bob about his days at CFNY 102.1 with Bookie. So, these are the... These are the people we mentioned. And I wrote this at the time. Okay. Bookie.

Yep. Todd. Yes. Jason. Dean Blundell. Humble and Fred and Martin Streak. Yep.

That episode was about an hour but I don't think we had sponsors back then. I know we didn't have sponsors back then. So, it was about an hour, but I don't think we had sponsors back then. I know we didn't have sponsors back then. So it was about an hour. So that's episode 61, which I think brings us to like 2013 maybe. And you actually did a COVID episode,

but you did it via Zoom. This is episode 618 you did, and Mike catches up with Bingo Bob Willett, who has recovered from COVID-19. Did we ever get a test? Presumptive case, presumptive case.

Can you get a test to see if you have the antibodies? Not yet. I think that's something that's still, if they let me know, you can always at me, uh, because I have no idea if it is, if that is true.

I don't know. This is back when the, uh, you know, they were kind of like hoarding the tests back in early April. Oh, yeah. And so I went in. I had all the symptoms.

I had just traveled. And I was told that I was a presumptive case. And I just had to keep an eye on myself and keep myself isolated. So you just did your 14 days quarantine. Yeah. Better safe than sorry. Yeah. That's how we rolled back then.

Then we kicked out 10 forgotten jten Jams, which I enjoyed. So I actually would like your next appearance to be more forgotten. More Forgotten Jams? Sure. I had a list of 20 or 30 or 40. I dug it. It was fun. It was just stuff that was played on the radio and no longer gets played on the radio, generally speaking. Do they play that song I broke into? I don't know how it came out, but the Better Than Ezra song I was singing

earlier. Maybe I might just write you a letter. Do they play that? That's not good. Yeah, I feel it's good. I don't remember any other Better Than Ezra song. That would get played, I think, in a gold or spice category on a radio station. My favorite

line about Norm Macdonald doing SNL's I'm going to go off on a radio station. My favorite line about is Norm Macdonald doing SNL's. I'm going to go off on a tangent here. When Norm was on the desk. Do it, because I love Norm Macdonald. The number one song here on the Billboard Hot 100 charts this week is

Good by Better Than Ezra. Number two, Ezra. Oh, yeah, I see, because it's better than Ezra. I like Norm Macdonald. I love that. It's so dry. And he'd just stand and look at the camera,

or sit and look at the camera, waiting for people to laugh, even though they wouldn't. Is he an acquired taste? Because sometimes I'll break into, like, I think he might be one of the funniest humans on the planet, and then people are like, they don't get it. He's a comedian's comedian. Comedians love him, because he's just so weird.

I mean, he'll go on Conan and ruin an entire thing, telling a 15-minute story with no payoff. Oh, the moth story. A lot of that stuff he does. Sure. All of it. They left the lights on. I think he's brilliant.

I think he's had some issues with some substance abuse. You think so? Oh, yeah. Because I always figured he was more of a gambling addict. That too. He's more Peter Gross than John Gallagher. If I can speak in color. That's the biggest.

Anyway, yeah. We're not live anywhere. No, exactly. Better than Ezra would definitely count as a somewhat... I don't think I would count good as a forgotten gem. And what is that spice category for us lay people? Not big enough. But what is that?

Explain yourself. Alright, so at a radio station that spends a little bit of money on research, they'll go and they'll grab, say, 600 songs that they think should be played on their format. And they'll give it to a company that goes and does either what's called auditorium testing or call-out hook testing. Auditorium testing is you get 150 people in a room with those little buttons, and you play them a 10 second thing of the song and they either say they like it or they don't like it.

Call out hooks is, hey, I'm calling from blah, blah, blah research. Do you have 15 minutes to listen to some music? I'm not selling you anything. And they play a portion of those songs. And then whichever ones test great become what's called your A category or your, you know, whatever you want to call it. Okay. Your high rotation gold tracks if you're doing a gold know, whatever you want to call it. Okay. Your high rotation,

right. Old tracks. If you're doing a gold library, if you're talking about libraries. Okay. And then the stuff that is like kind of in the middle that, you know, people kind of like,

but maybe they didn't recognize it because they haven't heard it for a long time. And that's where the, this is where the art versus the science comes in when it comes to programming radio is let's like, you know, I know that that song, maybe this particular sample of people didn't know that song, but I know that song did really well.

There's a whole bunch of songs, bands like the Catherine Wheel, for instance, did amazing in Toronto. Southern Ontario, they were playing, you know, The Warehouse, playing to 2,000 people. You put them anywhere else in North America, they're playing to 50 people, if that. But you know you can get away with playing Black Metallic or whatever

because it's got that local feel. But that's not going to come through, so that would be in a spice category if I were running an alternative radio station in Toronto, say. You should be, by the way. Is there any opportunities? Okay, so let's...

Okay, so... Okay. You left The Rock in Oshawa. Yes, sir. How long ago did you leave The Rock in Oshawa. Yes, sir. How long ago did you leave The Rock in Oshawa? Last, so that would be 2019, June 2019. Okay, June 2019. Okay.

Tell us, why did you leave The Rock in Oshawa? I left The Rock in Oshawa, which I was a midday host and music director. I was there for four years almost. And I got an opportunity to go to Bell Media, Big Blue, and run. And I took a contract position.

A 15-month contract. The first part of the contract kind of came to be because of Bigs and Bar leaving 97.7 came to be because of Biggs and Barr leaving 97.7 Hits FM. So Biggs and Barr left 97.7 Hits FM. Adam Ricard took over the morning show. FOTM, Adam Ricard. I know, FOTM.

So Adam Ricard took over the morning show short term while they looked for a new morning show. And I did Afternoon Drive last summer on 97.7 Hits FM from the White House of Rock. Which, by the way, was amazing. I was so, it's one of those moments where I kind of, I wasn't sure how it would be received

by the 97.7 Hits FM audience. Yeah. This is, you know, the Iron Mike Benson's of the world. This is Scruff Connors territory, you know. Absolutely. And it's a legendary radio station. I must say I was so happy that the audience for

97.7 embraced me with open arms, which was a lot of fun. The program director there, Craig Pfeiffer, really good guy, helped me through it. I did that for three months. Any relation to Darren Pfeiffer? No relation. Goldfinger. Did that for, yes. Here in my bedroom. Great song. A lot of great songs by Goldfinger. Oh, so many.

The cover album, Darren's Coconut Ass, is so great. I don't know this album. I don't think I know this album. I'm going to dig it up later. Yeah. Darren's Coconut Ass it's called. It's all covers. It's a great title.

Yes, it is. I don't even know. Okay. Also, shout out to FOTM Pauly Morris, Paul Morris, who helped build the House of Rock.

Yeah. Uh, so that was the first part of the contract, which kind of got added on last minute because of Biggs and Barr going to Ottawa and, uh, Rogers Communication Station there, Shay, C-H-E-Z. Even you talked to Jason since he left? Just the odd Facebook note here and there,

but nothing of consequence. And anyway, the reason I went was a Matt Leaf cover. The program director for 1057 Easy Rock in St. Catharines. And that used to have, don't tell me, Rick Hodge and Lori Love. That's right. Rick Hodge and Lori Love. Rick Hodge had just left.

So that station, Lisa Vince was her name. She's back now. And she has the program director for also 102.9 K-Lite in Hamilton with Sonny and Hayes in the morning. And I've heard these names. And I was the program director for those two29 K-Lite in Hamilton with Sonny and Hayes in the morning. And I've heard these names. And I was the program director for those two stations for the last year.

Okay, Matt Lee Fillon. Yes. Okay, I'm with you now. And I mean, you've been burned. I'm going to be very gentle. I'm an outsider. I can be very blunt here. But I know you got burned somewhat by Bell Media in the past.

Am I allowed to bring this up? Shortly you were at Virgin 99.9. You left a long time gig with the Evanov group. Yep, Evanov Radio Group, 1039 Proud FM and working with a bunch of the other stations as well. Right, and we should, you know,

when I was helping Humble and Fred podcast before they did the daily podcast, we recorded a couple at Proud FM, thanks to our hookup here. So good on you. All right, so you left that gig to go to Virgin. Right, to become the music director

of 99.9 Virgin Radio here in Toronto. And then like five minutes later, they eliminated the position. Me and 300 other people in one day. It was shortly after Bell acquired Astral Media. Right. And once they did, they kind of realized there's redundancies

and there's this and that. And myself and, yeah, 299 other people across the country all got walked out. So you didn't take it personally? I mean, you try not to. I mean, you try not to. You think, okay, well, that was not great. But I had already met Doug Elliott from 94.9 The Rock and that

worked. It worked out. Okay. It worked out to the point where also, it is such a small industry. What am I going to do? Say I'll never work for Bell again? No, of course not. They had to do what they had to do. No, no, no. You knew going into this new gig, they said coming in, this is a 15 month. We promise you 15 months.

They didn't promise anything beyond 15 months. No, there were no promises. There were conversations of we'll do our best. We can envision finding a position for you somewhere in the company when this is done. This is a calculated risk, though, right? You're leaving a full-time job, a full-time permanent job for a contract position. And it's part of the industry.

And I did it. permanent job for a contract position. And it's part of the industry, and I did it, and I'm coming out of the contract as of this Friday amidst a global pandemic, and there's nothing for me. And that's okay. That's the way it goes. Yeah, you gambled.

You know, sometimes you, you know, I understand you can, I don't gamble, but sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. That does happen in gambling, yes. You gotta know when to hold them. Exactly. Oh, yeah, we have that mutual love. We do have that mutual love of the gambler.

Kenny Rogers. Yeah, so you know. Our moms, right? Yes, absolutely. Did you ever hear the phone call I had of my mom after Kenny died? Yes, we talked about it, yes, absolutely. Steve Paikin still references it. That's beautiful.

He loves it so much. It's wonderful. It was very nice. Because it's organic. Sure. Authenticity, right? Amen. There's no script. My mom's not reading this script.

You're the one who says hashtag real talk, right? Hashtag real talk. So on that note, so your gig at Bell Media has come to an end. Yep. What's next for Bob Ouellette? I don't know. You hiring?

Well, maybe. Okay, so maybe. Okay, so I'm going to ask you straight up because I always joke you're the East of Young version of me. Sure, of course. But there's a lot of significant differences. You grow a great beard. You're a nicer guy.

Oh. Probably. Probably. And the most biggest difference is you've been a career radio guy. You started, how old were you when you got your first radio gig? You know, 21, 22. 97, 98. You've had over two decades of radio experience.

Okay, but here you are now at the fork roads here. Have you ever considered a wasp just fell on this red table here? It just fell. You had a bird defecate on your laptop. The nature is coming

and joining us. Nature is healing here in the TMDS. By the way, I ordered an outdoor heater. This is very exciting. It comes next week because this is nice.

I'm in shorts and a t-shirt. I'm feeling fine. I'd be fine too to take my jacket off but I just like the way it looks. But it's going to go

downhill quickly. And last night with Colin DeMello I had to wear a sweater because because it was chilly so yeah i got a heater coming so have you bob willett ever considered leaving radio um yes if you consider leaving radio to go work in digital or um like a streamer yeah then yes okay so you'd you'd continue so leaving okay so you'd still be like sort of like jeff domette i guess right like he's still sure well i will tell you something that i've never told publicly before holy smokes i'm excited go three uh two years ago i was flown to seattle by amazon music to uh to interview to be the head of Amazon Music Canada.

Why do I think you told me that? I don't know if I told you on the air. Okay, maybe not on the air. Maybe not on the air. Because I know this is in the brain. And so, yeah, so I have considered leaving traditional broadcast radio. What happened to that? Because Amazon bought Audible.

I did not, yes. So I didn't get that job. The whole Amazon thing is you could do a whole episode of people who have Amazon experience and with their interview process. I had five, I had five interviews on the phone and then got flown to Seattle

to do what's called The Loop in which I did seven interviews in eight hours. Wow. In one day. Wow. Yeah. And I didn't get it, but the guy who did get it is a guy who worked for Sony Music here in Canada and in one day. Wow. Yeah. And I didn't get it, but the guy who did get it

is a guy who worked for Sony Music here in Canada, and he's running it now. And actually, they just hired another. I was just, I'll be completely, I was just interviewing for that job.

It was senior music curator for Amazon Music. So yes, I would leave. You'd leave radio for digital broadcasting. Sure. Something that's music related for sure. I am currently working with a career coach.

Wow. And I might... Is that a free service? Did Bell Media pay for that? No. Oh, you know, if you do, they did offer such a thing when I was like, this is not the case.

Right, because this is a contract that's expired. They don't owe you anything. No, no. This is something else that I got through some contacts. Wow. He's terrific. Mostly been working within the industry, talking about networking.

He had a great line. I actually should give him a shout out. I don't know if you'd want one or not. Give him a shout out. Yeah, I will. He said, you know, so I called him probably three months ago when I knew this contract was ending. And he said, how's your network?

He goes, how would you rate your network? I said, my network's pretty good. I said, it's a small industry. I think most people know me. I think most people would say nice things about me. I think you're right. Most people say nice things about you. And then he asked me, okay, how many of those people owe you favors? And I said, none. He goes, well, your

network's not as good as you think it is then. So I thought that was really, his name's Steve Gazzard. I've written an endorsement for him on LinkedIn. He's terrific. Stevie G. Steve Gazzard. Yeah, it's called, he's Impactive Learning Solutions. That's an interesting question. He's a really great guy. I think there's lots of people who owe me favors out there.

Well, there you go. So then your network's pretty good. Well, I guess if I was looking for a gig, sure. Now, I will say I'm kind of the best guy to ask these questions. I know all of you guys, like who is beloved and who is prickly. Yeah, you hear all the dirty stuff. I've never heard a negative word uttered about Bob Ouellette. Not one. That's lovely to hear. And to a negative word uttered about Bob Ouellette. Not one.

That's lovely to hear. And to a T, everybody, like, they get a smile. When I bring up Bingo Bob, they smile and go, I like Bob. All of them. They all say that. You know what, Mike? That is nice because I am thirsty, as the kids say. I need as much positive reinforcement these days.

Okay. Because I've been spending three months networking, and I ain't got no job after Friday. You know, another thing about Toronto Mic'd is a lot of the radio decision makers and insiders, they listen to Toronto Mic'd. That's why I'm here. And today, is that why you're here?

I thought you were here for the Great Lakes beer and the palm of my hand. That too. Sure. Now, this is a double header today I mentioned. So this afternoon, I've got Michelle Storino. And you guys are in very different places. I feel like Michelle, she just left this industry because she has a lot of, she wants to spill a lot of real talk about woman in sports media, radio in this country.

And she's got a lot of things she wants to say about that and how it pushed her out. And here you are, your contract ended, which is no fun. And we're in COVID time, so they didn't have something for you but you'd love to chat with anybody who has any opportunities of a broadcasting nature pretty much would you ever consider leaving the whole world

abroad like what if I go into logistics or something here's the thing this is the next step with the career coach is identifying my transferable skills. Because I'm going to be honest, man. All I've ever done is radio. Right?

Like all I've done. Like communications maybe? Yeah, I've been a leader. I've been a leader of a big team. I've been a leader of a small team. Like Nickelback said, you're a leader of men. I am a leader of men and women. Which was a good album, The State.

You know what? I don't get the Nickelback hate. No, I don't. They got lumped into some kind of weird creed thing. I agree with you. They write great pop tunes. I saw them one year at one of your Edge Fests. I saw them on a small

stage. And the very next year, they headlined Edge Fest. And I was there at Molson Park. And you ready for this? Thoroughly enjoyed it. Sure. I took my cousin from Lindsay, Ontario to ACC once to see them. I can't even remember what tour it was. I've never seen so much pyro in my life, but I loved every minute of it. What did we go to?

You and I. Oh. Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, we went to Smashing Pumpkins. And that's great because me and my new friend, Stu Stone, we talk about that show a lot because we both saw them in 2000. I thought that show was boring. The 2000 show? No, this one. But this one I thought it seemed like they were trying.

Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Yeah, so you were bored because you didn't like your company. You were with me. No, not at all. We also went to that Eastern Conference final Argos which got us on TSN. Several times. Yeah, right. And that was a big deal.

That's still my greatest television moment, I think. I was on game five with the Raptors a ton. The one they could have won at home. I was lucky enough to have very good tickets against Golden State. I was at game five for Golden State. Okay, and that would have been right, we could have won at home. And that was, even though they lost. Right.

And it's so funny, I just realized today how much I miss events because I really am an events guy. I love live sports. I love live concerts. But that game, game five, even though they lost, it still might be the greatest sporting event I've ever been to. Okay, have you ever, when was the last time you paid for a ticket? Like, did you get into that game five because of though they lost, might be the greatest sporting event I've ever been to. Okay, have you ever... When was the last time you paid for a ticket?

Did you get into that game five because of connections? Yes. Yeah, I think this is the difference. You're not a normie, okay? And I have a little bit of what you have. I don't have it to your extent. I bought Pearl Jam tickets. All three shows got canceled or got postponed.

Okay, so for select acts like Pearl Jam, you'll cough up... I go to Pocket for Pearl Jam. I've gone to Pocket for TFC. Okay. You want me to hook you up over there? Yeah, any time. Yeah, yeah.

As soon as I actually have people. You've invited me several times to see the Toronto Wolf Pack. Yeah, you turn me down every single time. That's a free meal and free all-you-can-drink. I know, and it just hasn't worked out. I know, it just hasn't worked out. And now they might be in big trouble. We might have missed the window there. I know, and it just hasn't worked out. I know, it just hasn't worked out. And now they might be in big trouble, man. I know.

We might have missed the window there. I know, it's too bad, because I hear it was quite the experience. Okay, so tell me about the jams that you're kicking out today. So you'd say... You forgot about that part. Yeah, yeah. No, so you had said, you know, okay, let's do something. I said I wanted to come on and talk about what's going on in my career.

And again, because I do know you are a mover and a shaker, you constantly, you do have, you do have the ear of the industry. You really do. And I thought, you know what? I mean, all of these people, these, I think I've talked to the vice president, a vice president of every major, uh, broadcaster from Rogers, Stingray, Bell. I've talked to everybody and they're all say the same thing, which is very nice. They're like, Hey, wow.

Nice to hear from you, but dude, there's a pandemic on. We're not exactly hiring right now. So it's fine. I just want to stay top of mind. I want to... Anyhow, so you asked me to come up with a theme to kick out the jams and I asked if I could

split the theme. So I did five radio jams and five job jams. Breaking news on Twitter. Ian Service, who is a great FOTM, great friend of the show. In fact, his server is hosting this file we're recording right now. Ian Service says your beard

is looking stellar. Oh, thank you very much. For the Periscope audience who are enjoying your beard. And to Robbie J, I've removed the crotch shot. Yes, yes, yes. You did work on that. Thank you for letting me know about it.

Now, Bob, are we going to do five, like, are we going to do five job jams and then five radio jams? Are we going to go one, go back and forth? I gave them to you. I might go back and forth. You tell me.

I am, you be the selector, sir. Oh, yeah, selector. Good term there. Okay. So let's start and. I am, you be, you be the selector, sir. Oh yeah. Selector. Good, good, good term there. Okay. So let's start and then, and then, then I'll,

let's do this song because it's such a banger and I love it. And then we'll, I'll give you some gifts for making the track. And then you can thank me later. Like what percentage of your future income am I entitled to? If somebody, if somebody calls me in the night, what's the,

what's the statute of limitations on that? A week? Oh, a week. I was going to say six months. Six months? Okay, how about this? Let's listen to the song. Till Halloween, how about that? No, no, no. Because a lot of people don't listen in real time. I know. There's a little delay and then it's like, oh yeah.

I'll tell you what. Let me think about it. We'll come up with something between a week and six months. Did I hear you correctly moments ago say you haven't yet heard the Nick Kiprios episode? Like, do you even listen to Toronto Mike? I have you on my Stitcher. I download every episode. What was the last, seriously, real talk? I listened to Ron Hawkins on the way in here.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. For sure. He's a wonderful. He is. And Stephen Stanley was playing on my street. Right. And I walked up to him and it was interesting. I didn't say, hey, I'm Bingo Bob on my street, and I walked up to him, and it was interesting.

I didn't say, hey, I'm Bingo Bob from the Humble and Fred show. I said, hey, I'm a fellow FOTM. Oh, my God. I love Stephen Stanley. Yeah, he's great. Of lowest of the low, of course. Right. Although now we have to refer to the Stephen Stanley band.

Which I bought the vinyl of on my street from him. Okay, that's amazingly cool. But, I mean, I did have Ron Hawkins in my backyard. I didn't say it. It's not a competition, Mike. No, I know. There's another episode that same week I want to just point you to. Jay Ferguson from Sloan. He's a great,

great guest. Chris Murphy of Sloan just did his first kind of what Stephen Page has been doing. Side door. What Ron's been doing. What Ron's been doing is for free. Chris Murphy just did his first side door. Side door. What Ron's been doing. Yeah, what Ron's been doing is for free. But Ron does it for free. But yeah, so Chris Murphy just did his first side door. I don't know how well it went.

I know he seemed very nervous about it, but he's a very funny guy. I think the nerve is, I believe the nerves comes from the tech. Yeah. Like they want to make sure it sounds good and all this tech stuff that they're not used to having. Like it's a whole different ballgame. They're used to just like having some roadie

or whatever set up their gear and then they play or whatever. yeah if the tech works and you know shout out to hoxley workman who's put a lot of effort into his uh tech to get his uh hoxley night in canada uh set up working and by the way uh i have a special episode in a couple of weeks that hawk is going to participate in so there's a teaser for something I've got brewing. With another FOTM that doesn't know Hawk's going to be involved. Oh, you're going to surprise somebody. I'm going to surprise somebody. I like it.

Let's get to your first. This is your first job jam. Job jam, okay. And then we'll talk. Here we go. Woo! Woo! On the streets the traffic starts jumping With folks like me on the job From nine to five Working nine to five What a way to make a living

Getting by It's all taking and no giving They just use your mind And they never give you credit It's the love that drives you Crazy if you let it. 9 to 5. Earlier when I said nobody had a bad word to say about you,

I'd like to extend the same praise to Dolly Parton. Yeah. Ever heard a bad word about her? Well, right now in the United States, some of the super far righties are not happy that she's come out and support. Yeah, I know. Those opinions don't matter. However, no, you know what?

She's phenomenal. that she's going to support. Yeah, I know. Those opinions don't matter. However, no, you know what? She's phenomenal. Have you, not to plug another podcast, but Dolly Parton's America? No, I haven't heard it. It is. You can plug other podcasts. There's a million of them.

No, so it's a short, I think it's only eight episodes. And it's done by a guy who says the same thing basically as you. She's this uniting force. She gets lefties and righties together at their concerts. There's LGBTQ communities. She's a huge icon there. She also gets

right-wing Christians who love her. Dolly Parton's America is... I cried in the first podcast listening to it. It was so good. Are you an easy cry? I am, actually. I'm very emotionally fragile. I am too, by the way. I am too. That's why It was so good. Are you an easy cry? I am, actually. I'm very emotionally fragile. I am too, by the way. I am too. That's why we're so similar.

Not like Stu Jeffries, though. I feel like he's a real easy cry, but I am. I get... I know. There's a mop on my set when Stu's coming over because I've got to mop up the tears. I know the waterworks are going to go, but I'm like yourself. I'm an easy

cry. Like if I start thinking on certain sentiments for like 10 seconds, I can't. You'll well up. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You might want to talk to somebody. I know. I keep getting told that. I keep getting you should think about some medication. Shut up! Right, like at the end for my

12th time watching Big Fish, at the end I put my shirt over my head because I was bawling in front of the kids. And, you know, my daughter Michelle is like, are you okay, Daddy? And I'm like, no. You know what? You were talking about this with Ron Hawkins. There's a lot of toxic masculinity out there that tells us we can't. Tells us we can't.

See, that doesn't exist here because, like, I'm pro authentic emotions. Absolutely. If you want to cry, cry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a safe space, Bob. Thank you. By the way, that song. Yes.

Love it. That's a great starter for the job. Has that ever been jammed, kicked out before? I don't think we've heard Dolly yet. Like, not even Jolene. Not even Jolene? I know. Oh, my God.

You know what? She's phenomenal. That song is phenomenal. She's written so many great songs you don't even realize how great she is. And it's a great song about getting up, stumble out of bed, tumble to the kitchen, pour myself a cup of ambition. Whoever called coffee a cup of ambition?

Thank you for bringing me some ambition. I did bring you some ambition. Actually, shout out to a place here in New Toronto. Was it the big guy's little coffee shop over here? That's where I stopped. I go there when I need to meet somebody for coffee in the hood. That's where I go. They have nice comfy leather couches. I don't know

about the COVID times, but Steve Anthony once needed a place to have a big meeting after he was here, and I sent him there too. Oh, wow. That's how awesome that place is. And New Toronto needs some good publicity, I think. Well, I wanted to do it. Well, my buddy owns Vital Plant awesome that place is. And New Toronto needs some good publicity, I think. Well, I wanted to do it.

Well, my buddy owns Vital Plant at the health food store right up here. That's cool. Yeah, you know what? I think Pete Fowler used to drop off,

I think he would drop off like Lost Indie City stickers and stuff. Yes, yeah, yeah. I've seen that. Shout out to StickerU.com,

by the way. You need to get some Bingo Bob. How are you feeling on the handle? Like, I've been kind of teaching myself to say bob willett instead of bingo bob because i feel like you're bob willett now like you've shed the bingo unless you're djing somewhere yeah you know the the bingo bob thing uh

there was a moment probably in one in my later 20 late 20s i would have been like i'm not bingo bob anymore but i actually embrace it now i'm very much there's a there are people of a certain age who i meet and they'll i'll be like hey i'm right i work they hear i'm from right yeah they're they hear i'm from radio and i'm like oh i was like well do you know the humble and fried show and they'll say yes of course and then i'll say i was bingo bob and then i'll go on to say i was also rqeq working with streak and they'll know that and so there's a few things. Yeah, I'm fine with it. You know, as the program director of two of the powerhouse AC radio stations in southern Ontario, I wasn't known as Bingo Bob a lot.

But that's okay. That's okay. It's both. You know what? We all play roles. You know, just because you reminded me now of CFNY, and I want to give a shout-out to this guy I'm not sure what he's up to right now, but man, I think this guy's amazing.

Scott Turner. Yes. Honestly, the wealth of interesting information. Do you know, I feel bad for not knowing, is he currently working in radio? I think he's not. I think he was with Bell in Kitchener. I don't want to get him a job before you because you've got two children. I think he was with Bell in Kitchener. Like, I don't want to get him a job before

you, because you've got two children. I do. And as far as I know, Scott has just got a very expensive bicycle. Yes. Scott and I almost worked together when he was out in Cambridge. He was running Dave FM. I almost worked with him and Jeff Lumby. And Curtis Bray, who is now the co-host

with Lori Love at 105.7 Easy Rock, former student of mine at Seneca College. And I believe Lori Love, close friend of Freddie P. Yes. Yes. Married to former promotions director Darren Wadsley. Who didn't like the pirate logo. I commissioned a pirate logo for Humble and Fred and I was told that he didn't like it.

He wasn't a fan of it. And now it's gone. Because he had the pirate radio. He's got great power. Darren Watson. That's Doo-Doo and Poo-Poo. I never met him. He didn't like the pirate logo. And I actually really like the pirate logo. Darren's one of the funniest

guys you'll ever meet. And also very smart. One day I'll meet him at a Humble and Fred thing. If we can ever have those again. By the way, there is a Rogue Low-Key Chill TMLX6 on Friday. We're recording here Tuesday morning. Friday at 6 p.m., I'm biking myself and some cold beverages to this park called Marie Curtis Park,

which is literally the southwest corner of Toronto. And there's a map on torontomike.com. Just Google TMLX6. You can see exactly where I'm going to be. And I don't care if two people show up or if 200 people show up. We're going to be outdoors, six feet apart,

and we're going to just, we're going to chat. Like, I'm not recording. I was going to say, you're not bringing any recording equipment or anything. We're just checking in,

like six months of this shit. Right. And we're all going to check. Like, if you were there, I'd be like, you'd introduce yourself. I'm Bob Ouellette. And then we'd literally

have a little check-in chat. How you doing, Bob? How's the last six months going? And then we're just going to do that. Like, it's going to be really low-key chill. Enjoy a beverage in a public park on Friday at 6 p.m. Like, I'm doing this. And literally, my expectations are such that if five people show up,

I'm going to have a great time. You know, I bike over. It's going to be great. If, you know, 25 people show up, that's great too. Like there's zero expectations, low key. It's happening. Good for you. It's going to be, you know what?

You're going to be surprised at how many people show up. That means six people. Exactly. There is a note, Stu Stone set the over under at 19.5. Oh, I take an over every day, all day on that. Cam took the under. And Cam Gordon from Twitter. Get out. 19.5. Oh, I've taken over every day, all day on that. Cam took the under. And Cam Gordon from Twitter. Get out.

Yeah, okay. You know what? I'm disappointed in those guys not having faith in the FOTM community. I did screw up the date. Stu's out because apparently, unbeknownst to me, it is Rosh Hashanah. Oh, I mean, I can't make it. But still, I still think I'm going to be over. Okay, you can't make it.

Is that right, Bob? Okay, let's get Scott Turner a job in radio. All right. Let's kick out your next. Is this a job jam or a radio jam? No, this is a radio jam. Okay, here's a big one. The biggest.

Arguably. My children love it. My 10 and 5-year year old love this song. Yeah, I'm going to talk right up to the vocals here. Just right now. FOTM. I heard you on the wireless back in 52. Lying awake intently tuning in on you.

If I was young, it didn't stop you coming through. Oh, oh, oh They took the credit for your second symphony Rewritten by machine on new technology And now I understand the problems you can see Oh, oh, oh I met your children Oh, oh, oh

What did you tell them? Video killed the radio star Video killed the radio star Pictures came and broke your heart And now we meet in an abandoned studio Awesome choice, Bob. Do you have something? I was going to just point out the fun fact that you probably know.

Did you know this is a cover song? You know what? I don't know if I did. And I'm now Googling who did the original because I can never remember who did the original. I just know it's a cover. It's like in my brain of fun facts. Interesting. But please,

tell me about why you chose this jam. I have three little things to think about with this that pop to mind when it comes to this song. First is when I DJed at the Phoenix Concert Theatre on Saturday nights opposite Club 102 in the parlor. This song out of Blue Monday by

New Order. Phenomenal mix. Always went over huge. People loved it. It's a crowd pleaser. It was huge. It was massive. So that was fun. Second one is I have a copy of this on vinyl from the Q107 library. Wow.

But they never play this on Q. They might have. I think at some point they must have because I have it. I also have the entire Ramones collection from the Q107 library up at Young and Norton. When we were leaving Mojo Radio AM640 up there, heading down to Wondondas when Chorus bought WIC, I was lucky enough, a few of us got to go and raid the library from Q107. Wow. A few of us got to go and raid the library from Q107.

Wow. And I have a copy of the very first Tragically Hip EP that was played on the radio on Q107. That's amazing. Yeah. In my vinyl collection. No, that's amazing. That's thoroughly impressive. And I have some data now. This is actually a song by a band called...

Who the hell is it? No, it's a guy named Bruce Woolley. All right. So Bruce Woolley releases this song in 1978. Okay. And on keyboards, by the way, is a young gentleman named Thomas Dolby. Nice. So he's on keyboards by the way is a young gentleman named Thomas Dolby so he's on keyboards for this and I think they call it Bruce Woolley

and the Camera Club is the full credit but yeah this is 1978 and then The Buggles which we just heard right there put that out in 1979 so one year later. One year later.

Every time I hear that song, I think about how video killed the radio star and how 22 years ago when I got into radio, it was satellite was going to kill the radio and satellite never killed radio.

And then now it's streaming is going to kill radio. Streaming isn't going to kill radio. How's radio doing? Oh, it's horrible right now. Because I always look at shares, but shares are of 100%, right? So that 100% could shrink in shares or shares.

But we always say it's a shrinking pie, but do you have any sense of how rapidly the radio pie is shrinking? The radio pie itself, if you're talking about listenership, it's actually according to Numeris

and according to Nielsen in the United States, it's actually not, it's not really shrinking. People are still exposed to radio. And that's what we're talking about here when you talk about what kind of listening. Even young people? All people are exposed to radio at least a few minutes a week.

Whether or not they're actively listening is another situation. But you are exposed to radio much more often than you think you are when you go into a store and they have a radio station on. You go into the dentist's office and they have on, you know, 1029K light, for instance, whatever the case may be. But no, so it's not the listenership that's the issue. It's the revenue that is the big issue and whether or not that can...

Well, right now, COVID has obviously had a huge impact on radio, especially local broadcast, because in-car listening is so important to our industry and nobody's driving anywhere. So it's getting back to better, but every radio station in this country will sustain some sort of financial loss this year, for sure. To what do you attribute the huge jump that Numeris reports for Q107?

Like they had a big pandemic jump. Somebody pointed out on a board somewhere that it was a lot of people in offices and stuff stayed home, but a lot of people in the jobs where they would play Q107 still went to work. So there's that theory. Yes. So you're talking about job sites, construction areas, work, you know, stuff like you're going to hear, you're going to have a lot more people listening to Q107 on a construction site,

on a condo site than you would say in a dentist's office. That is something to be said. There's also the issue, and I don't know, maybe I'll get in trouble for this, but... Let's hear it. Real talk. You get what's called super listeners on panels. So the way Numeris, they pick people who are willing to wear the little beeper thing

and put it around. Yeah, the PPM devices. The PPM device. And what can happen is, and the sample size is statistically sound. The bigger the sample, all that does is change your margin of error by a few points either way. So let's say a city of Toronto gets 2200 PPM monitors out there. So that's 2.5 million people, 2.7 million people represented by 2200 people. Statistically, we're told that's sound. I'm people, 2.7 million people, represented by 2,200 people. Statistically, we're told that's sound. I'm not a

statistician, so I don't know. But if on the... That's why I'm in radio. If those 2,200 people, if you happen to get five, what we call super listeners, in that they never change the station, they listen all the time, it's going to greatly affect

the skew one way or another. Interesting. And it can go any way. One time the panel will have a CHFI super listener. One time it'll have a Q107, maybe a CHUM FM. Who knows? But it's these super listeners that lead to these big swings. And then when they leave, you can see,

you can drill right down in the data with the software. You can see the individual person, and they're listening to a radio station for eight hours a day to one radio station. That's not normal listening habits, but it affects everything altogether. Interesting, because that was a huge jump, right? Massive jump, and congratulations to them. Yeah, sure. And Boom seemed to have caught and surpassed uh q yep and then this rate

latest pandemic book uh suggests that q ain't ain't dead yet and is back on top here i think you have to look at trends as well one book is just one book i'm not saying that it's not real but um you do i think uh even with uh ppms i think it's important to, you know, look at trend, trending, and not just overreact. Right. Okay. Let's do a second job jam. Sure.

And then I'm going to give you some gifts. You mean a third job? Oh, no, a second job jam. Right. Okay. Bob,

who's hosting this show? All right. It's your show. Shut up. And by the way, if you do want to leave radio, there might be something for you at TMDS. You never know.

Take this job and shove it. I ain't working here no more. Woo! A woman done left and took all the reasons I was working for. You better not try to stand in my way as I'm walking out the door. Take this job and shove it. I ain't working here no more I've been working in this factory For now 15 years

All this time I watched my woman Drowning in a pool of tears And I've seen a pool of tears. And I've seen a lot of good folk dying and had a lot of bills to pay. I'd give the shirt right off of my back if I had

the guts to say take this job and shove it. I ain't working here. You know, your first two job jams are country jams. Yeah. Woo! Hard working people.

Yeah. Real people. That's what I hear. Real, real people. That's what I hear. Okay, tell me about this Johnny Paycheck jam. Well, Johnny Paycheck, of course, a huge country star in the 70s and into the 80s. I grew up listening to a lot of country.

CFGM here in Toronto back in the day. What was that on the dial? It started off at 1320, I believe. And ended up moving down to, I think it was, the last AM country station was 640 in Toronto and became The Hog. It switched from country to The Hog.

That's the hog thing. Yes, that's a lot. I love it. It's great. You know what? I listened to The Hog, by the way. Yeah, I did too a little bit, sure. Some Top 40 stuff. Yeah, well, they launched with hard rock. Yeah, I remember you'd hear Daughter by Pearl Jam. It was all over the place.

Johnny Paycheck, there's a great, I don't know if you've ever seen the Mike Judge Presents Tales from the Bus No, but I like Mike Judge So Mike Judge is amazing, right? King of the Hill And Beavis and Butthead and all that Office Space So it's Tales from the Tour Bus

And so it is a bunch of guys Telling stories about Johnny Paycheck And he's animated it Okay, cool And Johnny Paycheck The Johnny Paycheck episode is by far the it. Okay, cool. And Johnny Paycheck, the Johnny Paycheck episode is by far the best one. You need to watch it. It's phenomenal.

Johnny Paycheck was a superstar. I was flipping stations the other day and I caught a bit of office space and I stopped. And I never watch movies. You still flip stations? No, I don't normally flip stations, but I don't remember how this happened, but I have favorites and I'll flip my favorites. It's not like all the stations. I'll rotate through my favorites, and just to see what

are on the TSNs, and just see what's going on. And yeah, this is maybe, in the last two days, some station on my favorites had Office Space playing, and I stopped, and I proclaimed it Jennifer Aniston's greatest movie, is what I proclaimed Office Space. Probably true. While

promoting Office Space, Stephen Root was a guest on the Humble and Fred show. And I picked him up from his hotel and drove him to the Humble and Fred show. Was he already a news radio star? Yep. Yeah. Okay. Now, news radio, a show I watched because I had Dave Foley and the great Phil Hartman. Yes.

And then I remember Phil's no longer with us. And speaking we talked about Norm Macdonald. I thought, you know, Phil Hartman, he was like the glue of Saturday Night Live. Sure. Brantford guy, right? Yeah, he's a Brantford guy. Yes. Anyway, sad loss, but Stephen Root's great and he's all an old brother. He's in a lot of great stuff. I think he's passed

away now too, isn't he? Stephen Root? I think so. No way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, sir. He's on that show Barry. You know what, I'm thinking Rip Torn. Yeah, Rip Torn's gone. And he's, isn't he? Steven Root? I think so. No way. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sir. All right. He's on that show, Barry. You know what? I'm thinking Rip Torn. Sorry. Rip Torn's gone.

And he's, yeah, he was great in the Barry Sanders show. You can see the similarities though, right? Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I see it. And they're both good. But Steven Root's in that Barry show. Yeah. I think on HBO.

So you know what HBO show I'm absolutely loving? I just stumbled on it because I figured it's HBO. It's going to be good. And I just gave it a go. It's called High Maintenance. I love this show. I just love this show called High Maintenance on HBO. Bob, in front of you

right now is... Now it's early, so I know you probably didn't have a coffee. It's early. But a cold, fresh craft beer that's yours, courtesy of Great Lakes Brewery. And I'm going to record on the patio. The patio's not open, so don't join me there.

But next week, I think, I'm going to go to the Great Lakes patio and record with people from Great Lakes kicking out their favorite beer songs. Nice. Because there's a lot of great drinking beer drinking songs. Sure. So that's going to happen next week and that'll be fun. And I was planning a very big TMLX6 on the

patio of Great Lakes Beer and then COVID got in the way. So shout out to Great Lakes. Fantastic local fresh craft brewery. Love them. And you also have, that lasagna is going home with you. I'm very appreciative.

Yes, you can. It's very, it looks dense. Is it hefty? It is hefty. It's got some density to it. You're going to love it. Palmapasta.com. They're in Mississauga and Oakville.

Go to palmapasta.com to get the exact address and you can order online. And I highly recommend, I mean, all their stuff is great, but their lasagna is next level and you're going to love it. Have I ever given you a palmma Pasta lasagna before? So this is the first time I'm going home with anything. Is that right? Yeah.

I think one time I did get some. You know, that's not true. I do have a fine pint glass from. But you must have got beer. And I did get beer once. I did get beer once. I did. I know you got Great Lakes beer.

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Here's a big one. Your second radio jam. Here we go. We'll be right back. Thank you. I'd sit alone and watch your light My only friend through teenage nights Is everything I had to know I heard it on my radio You gave them all those old time stars Through wars and wars, they made by Mars You made them laugh, you made them cry The The The The

The The The The The The The The

The The The girls and boys Just don't know Or just don't care And just complain When you're not there You've had your time You've had your power You've yet to have Your finest hour Radio

Greatest rock and roll vocalist of all time? Question mark? Chris Cornell. Huh? No, I mean, yeah, this guy's, can't argue with Freddie Mercury's voice here. You know, when I first heard this song as a kid on the radio, I thought it was like a Dr. Demento song.

Like, I really did. I didn't, and then it was like, oh, this, yeah. Don't become some background noise. It's a great line. I noticed, uh, Humble Howard will be disappointed that we're not going to kick out any Steely Dan.

Don't they have the, uh, the FMs? Look, men of a certain age love their Steely Dan. I am not a man of that certain age. I don't get Steely Dan at all. Good for them.

I'm happy they do. Have you ever heard John Mulaney's bit on Steely Dan? No. Taking Pete Davidson to a Steely Dan at all. Good for them. I'm happy they do. Have you ever heard John Mulaney's bit on Steely Dan? No. Taking Pete Davidson to a Steely Dan concert? It's phenomenal. Look for it somewhere. I just don't get Steely Dan. This, on the other hand, I love.

Yes. You know, in the 90s, they released two compilation CDs, Classic Queen and Queen's Greatest Hits. Released at the exact, one had a dark blue cover, one had a... Okay, I remember it very well. I remember the other one. Was it Maroon? It was Maroon.

Did not have Bohemian Rhapsody. The other one did. Right. That's right. I remember this vividly. So I bought both of them. My dad was a huge Queen fan. Admittedly, look, when Wayne's World came out, I didn't know Bohemian Rhapsody.

I didn't know it. Yeah, I did. I'd never heard it in my life well you're older than me Mike so that happens by several several months I didn't know it but you're right for a lot of people our age they got introduced to Bohemian Rhapsody on Wayne's World yeah and I mean I knew

another one Bites of Dust and obviously We Will Rock You and got introduced to all this other stuff through these two I love Greatest Hits compilations I know there are purists who don't like them. Oh, you need to love the album. I'm not that guy. I feel like when you're going back, like, for example, we all picked the first Bob Marley we all heard was Legend.

Yep, absolutely. Like, I think when you're going back, and my first Rolling Stones experience was Hot Rocks. Hot Rocks, absolutely. Like, I think it's okay to go back with the Greatest Hits, and then if you want to dive deeper, you can go. I think it's okay to go back with the greatest hits. And then if you want to dive deeper, you can go. But when you live through music, like for us, like, I don't know, we'll make up like what a band, like, I don't know,

White Stripes or something like that, right? Right. Like, I don't know if there's a White Stripes greatest hits or whatever, but that's, so it's different if you're going back and then coming forward. But they don't matter as much because people are experiencing music. If you go put White Stripes in your streamer, your favorite streaming service, they're already going to play the greatest hits for you. You're right.

So those compilations don't matter as much. However, I love compilations. Greatest hits compilations, movie soundtracks, K-Tel stuff from the 80s, all great stuff. Here come the hits. Here come the hits, that's right. Big shiny tunes, of course. Loved them.

Yeah, I'm with you. And I just wrote about this, rap tracks. Yes. I collected rap tracks. Sure. It was a great sampler. And I just wrote about this. Rap Tracks. Yes. I collected Rap Tracks. Sure. It was a great sampler of the current popular hip-hop songs. Yep. Bob, I'm with you, man.

Yeah. I'm with you on Greatest Hits. So, yeah, that's, I mean, I knew some Queen, but not a lot. What's your favorite Greatest Hits compilation of all time? Because I have an answer for this. I want to hear the Bob answer. You already have it right off the top of your head, eh? Yeah, because, well, there's so many.

If we could put Legend aside, because I want to hear the bottom answer. You already have it right off the top of your head. Yeah, because... Well, there's so many... If we could put Legend aside, because I would say Legend is probably it. Like, I think Legend is one of those albums. I don't know anybody who doesn't like that album. Right.

You know what I mean? I think it's quite possibly one of the greatest set of music. From beginning to end, you love everything. Yeah, even that No Woman, No Cry live thing.

It's all perfect. It's so good. You know what comes to... I have a Pixies greatest hits that's so good. Wow. I also... good. You know what comes to... I have a Pixies Greatest Hits that's so good. Wow. I also... Oh, you know what? Never mind.

I have two of them. Billy Joel's Greatest Hits Volumes 1 and 2 and Blue Rodeo's Greatest Hits Volume 1. Good answers. Good stuff. Those are the two that are definitely my favorites. You want to leave country music and kick out a non-country... Yeah, job jam. Yeah. All right. I'm to leave country music and kick out a non-country... Yeah, job jam.

Yeah. All right. I'm so glad we get to kick... I don't think we've kicked out this guy on Toronto Mike yet. I don't think so. Never? And I know that the great story on the Toronto Mike lore is that Sammy Cohn, drummer for The Watchmen, for some reason...

Oh, no. He hates Doug and the Slugs. Okay. The story is he hates Doug and the Slugs for some reason. I think he had a bad experience with Doug Bennett or something like that. That's funny. But the joke is that we think Doug and the Slugs is the Canadian version of this

band. You ready? Here we go. Someday, morning ever And some days passing by I'll be working here forever At least until I die Damn if you do Damn if you don't I'm supposed to get a raise next week You know that when I won't

Working for a living Working for a living Working for a living Working for a living Working for a living I'm taking what they're giving Cause I'm working for a living Woo! Huey Lewis in the news.

Pre-1984, right? Like sports. Free back to the future. Yes. Yes, free back to the future. That was 85, I think, back to the future. But that was the moment I... to admit. Free Back to the Future. Yes. Yes. Free Back to the Future. That was 85, I think, Back to the Future. But that was the moment I, oh,

maybe, when was the ghost, when was I Want a New Drug? That is on Sports. Okay. So this is before that. Which came out in 83. This came out in 82.

Okay. Okay. Gotcha. And I got to admit, like, so Columbia House Cassettes. Yes. Sports was one of the ones I had,

which was, this isn't on that. And I have to admit, I did not find out about pre-sports Huey Lewis in the news until listening on a streaming service. And this came up and I was like, I don't even know this song. And I love this song. And yeah, this is a lesser known Huey Lewis song.

A tight 239. It was a top 20 Billboard hit. Man. Yeah, man. So is this their biggest pre-sports hit? That's a good question. I mean, I have to do some digging for that one. Yeah, I got to go to the wiki for that one.

Well, listen, but Huey Lewis, I feel they're underappreciated. So first of all, calling Doug and the Slugs the Canadian Huey Lewis in the news, like you're giving Doug and the Slugs way more credit than they deserve. No offense if there's any way from Doug and the Slugs. Three monster Canadian singles. Yeah. I had the opportunity. I think I went to Pocket.

Oh, no, maybe I didn't. No, to see Huey Lewis and the News at Rama a bunch of years back. And let me tell you what a fine show it was. I love great pop music. And, I mean, that album, Sports sports from beginning to end i have it memorized still from being a kid i loved that album if this is it yeah i want a new drug yeah um now power of love's not on that that's on the that's on another one um uh yeah there's so uh bad is bad there's doing it all for my baby is that on that i think that's no? Is that on that album? I'm just thinking out of Huey Lewis.

No, that's on the second one. That's on the album after that, I think. Okay, okay. On sports. I mean, oh my gosh. I had this cassette too. Yes. Yeah, it was great.

Sports. It was 1983 sports game. Picture this was 82. Huey Lewis is cool. He's also had some real hearing issues. Yeah, I heard he can't sing anymore. The heart of rock and roll. Heart and soul. That's like a cow heart, right?

I think that was the fun fact. And there's the one version that radio stations got where they say, Toronto, Montreal! And there's a sax version in it. But I didn't kick out a different hue. I kicked out the working one because we're doing work. I Want a New drug walking on a thin line.

It's got that real blues, honky tonk blues. It's got a real bluesy. But there's like this whole brassy kind of. Yes, yes. It's almost Yacht Rock, right? Almost a bit of, I might create, almost a little Steely Dan in there. It's post Yacht Rock, I would think.

Yes, it is. Yacht Rock is, I know you did your whole Yacht Rock thing. I only Stu understands it. I still am not too sure what's Yacht Rock. There's only like 10 good Yacht Rock thing I only Stu understands it I'm still not too sure There's only like 10 good Yacht Rock songs It's a shallow pool Fair enough, I don't disagree Anyhow, Working for a Living

That's my work theme song And I'm glad you played Huey Lewis I don't think we've heard Huey Lewis I can kick out nothing but Huey Lewis When I hear Power of Love And I listen to it, it's just a great song. You know, I just remembered there's a great scene

in American Psycho, right? Where the guy is, he's talking about hip to be square. Right. And there's a whole monologue. Yes. And yeah, anyway, fantastic. Huey Lewis, hit machine.

Like much like Hall & Oates, Huey Lewis and the News, hit machine. Like just hit after hit after hit. Is Hall & Oates a yacht rock? Could be, I hit machine. Just hit after hit after hit. Is Hall & Oates Yacht Rock? Could be, I guess. Like Sarah Smilers? I don't know.

I think Yacht Rock's this interesting thing that's just been invented in the last five years, right? From that, some guys did a podcast and gave it a name. And they just said, if it's got Michael McDonald involved somehow,

or the Toto guys. I think there's this whole, these musicians. Kenny Loggins, of course. Okay, so let's kick out your third radio jam. Toto guys. Right. There's this whole like these musicians. Kenny Loggins, of course. Okay. So let's kick out your third radio jam. I remember this jam, Bobby. And step out in the street And the city's the cover of flame In the midst of a heat

Oh yeah And Jennifer's got her daddy's car She's playing uptown on the stereo We go cruising so close The way they did long ago Here we go. Turn the radio up For that sweet sound

Hold me close Never let me go Keep this feeling alive Make me lose control baby when I look in your eyes I go crazy fever's high

with the last down low so take me over the edge make me lose control before we talk about Eric Carman, I just need to say the biggest hit Huey Lewis and the News had before sports was a song called Do You Believe in Love? And I can't, it's not in my head right now, so I'd have to. I'm sure once you hear it, you'll be like, oh yeah, that one. Right, right, right.

But that was their biggest hit. It went to number seven. Nice. Okay. And The Power of Love is their greatest, biggest hit of all time. But Stuck With You also hit number one. So, oh, Jacob's Ladder. Oh,

yeah. From four. There's a lot of big songs from four. It winds off of four as well, yeah. Okay. So, back to Eric Carman. I remember this jam from the radio. Sure. So, tell me about this song. You know, Eric Carman probably wrote the saddest song ever written in All By Myself. And I wouldn't call myself an Eric Carman fan.

But when I was thinking about songs that were not necessarily about the radio, but referenced the radio, this came to mind because, again, I remember listening to Chum FM in the late 80s where this would have been a hit. My dad would have been listening to it on Chum FM. It's interesting. There's an essay to be written or something on references to radio and people hearing the radio and

experiencing songs on the radio and where they peaked and whatnot. This, of course, Eric Carman also did Hungry Eyes from the Dirty Dancing soundtrack. Yeah, and that went to number four. This song, Make Me Lose Control, went to number three. Yep.

It's his second biggest hit of all time. After All By Myself, the saddest song ever written. Which peaked at number two. No, it didn't make it to number one, eh? No. I wonder if Celine got it to number one. I'm sure she did. I still think it's sadder when Eric Carman does it

because I can believe that he was actually all by himself while he was writing it. That's what makes it so sad. When I was young, making love was just for fun. Those days are gone. You just picture him so sad. That's what makes it even sadder. Okay, ready?

Celine's song peaked at number four on the Billboard Hot 100. Wow. See, these charts mean nothing. I know. Anyways, yeah. So a song about radio. It's not about the radio, but it mentions turn that radio up. Back when people used to listen to the radio.

And, of course, Eric Carman was with the Raspberries. That was his band back in the 70s. And I'm just going to peek at Go All The Way was the biggest Raspberries song. Right. There you go. Wow. Great. Yeah,. There you go. Wow. Great. Yeah. And this song, I don't know.

Is this a forgotten jam? Oh, for sure it would be. Yeah. This is definitely a forgotten jam. I would say that, yeah, Working For A Living would be a forgotten jam as well, right? I don't even know. Working For A Living, can you be forgotten if you were never known? Well.

You have to be. I don't feel that charted. I don't think that's a single. Oh, I'd have to look. Did you see it? I didn't see it on the singles list. You didn't see it on the, didn't make a single at all, right? I think it's just a deep cut. Like, you have to be, I don't feel that charted. Like, I don't think that's a single. Oh, I'd have to look. Did you see if it was on? I didn't see it on the singles list. You didn't see it on the, it didn't make a single at all,

I think it's just a deep cut. Oh, okay, all right. So I don't know if you can be forgotten if you never charted the first place. We did have that conversation when we did the first place.

Right, I love that shit. You know that. You know how to press my buttons, Bobby. Come on here. Yeah, so Eric Carman, I have a, I can still remember,

here's a stupid, stupid memory I have regarding Eric Carman. Yeah have a, I can still remember, here's a stupid, stupid memory I have regarding Eric Carman. In grade seven, we're in my music class at St. William's Catholic School on Jones Avenue in East Toronto. We're doing posters of our favorite artists and our favorite songs. And two of the grade eight girls were doing, they wrote the word Eric

or the E-R-I. I don't even think the C was there yet. And I was like, oh, are you doing Eric Carmen, Hungry Eyes? And they said, no, they were doing Eric B. and Rakeem. I was like, I'm so not cool. That's great. That's great. Dirty Dancing

though, you talked about soundtracks. That's a monstrous soundtrack right there. And Hungry Eyes was a key jam on there. I still like the, what did Patrick Swayze do? She's Like the Wind. She's Like the Wind, yeah. Through My Trees. She leads me through moonlight only to burn me with the sun.

Oh, yeah. She's breaking my heart. She doesn't know what she's done. Well, good on Patrick Swayze, man. That was a great tune. It's breaking my heart. Yeah, yeah. She doesn't know what she's done. Well, good on Patrick Swayze, man. That was a bit of a... That was a great tune. It's a great song. I would say I put that in the same thing

as Michael Damien's Rock On. Right. Hey, kids, rock and roll, rock... Which is also a cover, of course. Yes, of course. Okay, so here's... We haven't had any CanCon yet. Nope.

But you're going to finish with some CanCon. Yeah, I will. This is your fourth job jam. Yes. Pretty specific. Maybe this will be your next job. And it's go, boys, go. They'll time your every breath.

And every day you're in this place, you're two days nearer death. But you go. Well, I process man and I And I'm telling you no lie I work and breathe among the fumes That trail across the sky There's thunder all around me And there's poison in the air

There's a lousy smell that smacks of hell And dust all in me hair And it's go, boys, go Have time for every breath I almost don't want to interrupt. That's so good. And they're saying something, man. Yes, it's a story. Yeah, I like it. I like interrupt. That's so good. And they're saying something, man. Yes. It's a story. Yeah, I like it.

I like these guys, Great Big Sea. So, yeah. It's a song. It's called Chemical Workers Song. Is that what it's called? Chemical Workers Song. Yes, Chemical Workers Song by Great Big Sea. I had the opportunity to go to Newfoundland for the first time in my life last year.

I'm a quarter Newfoundlander. My grandfather is from Stephenvenville and uh i'm i tell you what i it's i get chills when i think about going there um and mr alan doyle had the opportunity to see him and fotm steven page with lindy ortega um at the winter garden theater a few years ago it was a songwriter's circle hosted by Tom Power of CBC. Formerly of Q. No, he's there now.

Shad's formerly of Q. And some other guy. Which we don't talk about. These songs don't kick out anymore. Although I still like Stuck in the 90s. So I have to admit, I had this impression of Alan Doy I'll tell you I had this impression of Alan Doyle

and I might have been the only person who had it I had heard from somebody that he was not a nice guy and yeah

so here's what happened in the 90s when I worked at Mix 99.9 one of the other hosts went to go introduce Great Big Sea

at the Amphitheater like we used to I had the opportunity to do Blue Rodeo and a few different bands. And the person told me that Alan... That's alright, ambient noise. That they had asked Alan Doyle for an autograph or something, but it was before the set, and Alan Doyle was very dismissive of the host. So I had this

thing in my head about Alan Doyle not being a nice guy, which is ridiculous. The man is from Newfoundland. You've never met anybody bad from Newfoundland. Anyhow, I've still yet to meet him, but he has tweeted with me on a couple occasions, and I have since seen him live in a songwriter circle where he got to tell some wonderful stories about Great Big Sea songs and his solo stuff.

Anyway, I just wanted to go on the record and say I'm a huge Alan Doyle fan. Okay. You should have him on sometime. I know he's based

out of Newfoundland. No, I should have him on. He did work with Splashin' Boots. Right. That's right, he did.

They did an album together and Splashin'. Yeah, I would love to have him on. Can you name, quickly, can you name the Great Big Sea, their biggest hit in, obviously, all their hits are in Canada. It would be off the album Play.

Correct. And Might Be Ordinary Day. That's correct. Yes. You know your stuff. Yeah, and I mean, that's a band I always liked. Always liked them. They were a band that came out post Spirit of the West, but still had that Celtic vibe or whatever. Obviously, East Coast versus West Coast there. But you know what? I have to admit, I was a little late to the party with them. But Alan Doyle's solo stuff is just phenomenal. And getting to see him do this writer's circle really let me into kind of who he is. And I had a preconceived notion,

an incorrect preconceived notion. Well, you know, there might be alcohol involved. Like, I feel like, I think he's admitted that this, and somebody in that band wrote a whole book about how much boozing there was in that band, and he had to get away from it all. And I wish I remembered his name, but he just wrote a book with his wife on this topic.

Yes, that's right, I know. I booked him on Humble and Fred, and I probably should have put him on Toronto Mike too, but I would love to have Alan Doyle and get him on Toronto Mike. I think... Not one of their hits. He's buddies with...

No, that's not one of their hits. That's another deep cut, which is cool. But I think he's good buddies with Russell Crowe. He's good buddies with Russell Crowe and Alan Hocko, formerly of Republic of Doyle. Right, which they filmed in Newfoundland, right? Yes, they did. And I tell you what, I mean, if you've never been... I've never been. Which they filmed in Newfoundland, right? Yes, they did. And I tell you what,

I mean, if you've never been. I've never been. I did an East Coast road trip and I couldn't get to that. Highly, highly recommend visiting Newfoundland. I often talk about like, because Stephen Brunt

has told us all about the Woody's Point song. And I often talk about making that trip at some point. So I will. How's this for stereotypical? I'm leaving St. John's, Newfoundland to come back to Toronto.

And in the airport, I run into Mark Critch from This Hour Says 22 Minutes. I was like, how stereotypical is this? Do you just always have some celebrity? Is Rick Mercer here doing bags? Or Bob Cole. Yes. He's doing the announcements at the airport.

All right. Your fourth radio jam. Ah, yes. Yes. What's that playing on the radio? Why do I start swaying to and fro? I have never heard that song before But if I don't hear it anymore It's still familiar to me

Sends a thrill right through me Cause those chords remind me of the night That I first fell in love too you to me sends a thrill right through me cause those chords remind me of the night that i first fell in love to those magic changes my heart arranges a melody that's never the same a melody that's calling your name and begs you please come back you can sing, man. No, it's not in my register. Jay Douglas was singing along to his jams last week. That's awesome.

Yes. So, yes. Sean and I are here. They were at Woodstock. Yes, they were. We used to have a TV show. Yes, Bowser is probably the reason that Super Mario Brothers has a character named Bowser. I heard that there's a connection there.

Okay, why did they kick out Shanana recently? Oh, that's cool. I'm trying to remember who did it and why. Give me 10 seconds on this one. Hold on. Molson Park Memories. Oh, okay. We did an episode on Molson Park Concert Memories.

Yes, I know. memories oh we did an episode on molson park yes concert memories and i guess uh shanana was kicked out because there used to be these woodstocky type reunion things that would well yes that's why we kicked out some uh shanana at the hop nice okay so this is shanana but what's interesting tell us the uh musical this is from so of course this is from greece what's that of course you ready for this this does not i don't resonate with this is from Greece. Well, it's not of course. You ready for this? This does not... I don't resonate with this song at all. Well, I... So here's the deal.

It's just a background song in the movie. However, in the play, it's an actual song that gets played. And there's actually a whole part where they're going C, C, C, C, C, C, A, A, A. The song is The Changes, meaning the chord changes, is what that actually means.

The chord changes. And when a actually means. The chord changes. And when a young Bob Ouellette in grade nine was in Grease the Musical. And I didn't sing that song. I actually played Vince Fontaine, the DJ, at the party. And so Grease has been a big part of my life. And the rest is history. This is the moment, like in the movie, when they make the Bingo Bob story. This is the moment, like you'll be DJing

in this Grease musical thing. I was the host. And you'll be like, guy from the radio. This is what I want to do with my life. There's going to be a moment. There is a moment. I'll tell you what. There's a moment when, so obviously the lyrics of what's that song playing on the radio?

Why do I start swinging to and fro? But I can still remember that. So that's, I'm 14 years old, grade nine. And I can remember we did four shows, a big, big musical, bunch of kids. And I can remember the first curtain call I ever did. And I can still remember standing on stage and looking down the aisle at all these people who I just did and doing the big thing. And I was like, this is what I want to do.

Wow. And I ended up on the radio instead. But still, I was like, this is what I want to do. I loved it. Let's say you never get another radio gig. Yep. Any regrets? If I never get a radio gig, yeah, probably.

Maybe should have gave on air more of a kick at it. I think I'd be a pretty damn good afternoon drive host or maybe even mornings. I don't know. I went into programming, and I love programming, but I also love being on the air, and I think I'm okay at it. And it used to be one person per station, and now, right, the programmers,

you'll do a whole cluster. Yes. One day it's going to be one programmer for the whole country. You are probably not that far off. That's the way it goes. No, you know what? I shouldn't even say that was a regret, because you know what? The four years I was at The Rock and some of the great stuff I got to do. Well, you want me to edit this? I can give you another go at it.

Not at all. Nope, not at all. Bingo, Bob. Let's say you never get another job in radio. Any regrets? No regrets, sir. No regrets. There you go. And scene. There you go.

Okay. Let's do the final. Oh, you know I love this band. Let's do the final work. This could be both. Job. This could be a job and a radio song because of the origin of the song. I love Easy Rock.

That's right. Here we go. Everything is bleak It's the middle of the night You're all alone and the dummies might be right You feel like a jerk, my music network My music network Voices and cliches don't clog up the date And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate Like so long you've heard, my music didn't work In a symbol too far, in the anatomy of a stain

To determine where you are, the symphony of Ganges at the main A band from Kingston, Ontario. You might have heard of them. From the Tragically Hip. As if it needs any explanation. Why Music at Work? It's a work job. It's a job song. And it's a song about the radio.

Because story goes that, I mean, my music at work was the positioner for Easy Rock, 97.3 Easy Rock here in Toronto. And Gord saw all the posters around the city and was inspired to write that song. And the video directed by? Bruce McCullough from Kids in the Hall. There you go.

Beautiful. Hey, give me another one. No, no, not at all. You got it all right in front of you. No, so you know what? It was, this is a true jam. This is one of the greatest Tragically Hip songs. Have you ever thought about trying to rank your favorite Tragically Hip songs?

I'm not, I'm sure I might have even done that at some point. It's hard to rank, you know? Well, it's like sometimes people do this with the Beatles, right? Because there's a finite number of Beatles songs and they try to rank them. The SiriusXM Beatles channel does it every Labor Day. They go on votes and say what is the greatest. Well, let me ask you this, Bob, a huge hip fan like myself. What is your favorite Tragically Hip song of all time?

And I'm sure it changes depending on the time of day. You know what is my favorite right now? Yep. No, I mean, I don't know. Yes, I do. Yeah, it's fine. Let's move on. It's music at work because you're listening to it right now.

No, you know what it is right now is Escape is at Hand for the Traveling Man. The way that that song builds, the story of it in the movie of them trying to do it for the very first time and Gord, not Gord, Paul Langlois going, did we really try to start with that first? Long time running. Yeah. Right. And long time running. And I just, it's one of those songs when I can listen to lyrics so many times and still love everyone. You yelled in my ear, this music speaks to me. It's just beautiful. We were fifth or sixth on the bill.

It's just that right now, that is my current. It does change. It was Pigeon Camera a few months ago. I love Pigeon Camera. It's such a weird song. I love it. And of course, you're going with, like, rightly so, you're digging jams that didn't get radio play.

We kill it. Radio kills these great songs, right? I mean, didn't get radio play. We kill it. Radio kills these great songs, right? I mean, don't get me wrong. I love... Like Bob Cajun, for example. I'm sure that's on high rotation still. Oh, for sure. You can put on a radio.

If you were to turn a radio on here and hit scan, I would almost guarantee you'd hear a hip song for sure. And it would probably be Bob Cajun. It might be Ahead by Century. Maybe it'll be something from the earlier stuff from up to here, but I doubt it now. It probably doesn't test as well. Oh, that's sad to hear.

Like a song I would find we could put a hip song on right now, it might be the Depression Suite, something like that. Right, yeah. See, you and I are like, we're nerds, right? This is tragically hip nerddom right here. In a good way, like like that. Right, yeah. See, you and I are like, we're nerds, right? Like, this is tragically nerddom right here. In a good way, like passionately. Oh, no, I love that band. I'm going to

kick out your final radio job. Yes. And then set you free. Yes. And then we're going to get you a radio gig. Yes, please do. So reach out to, how do you want somebody to contact you? Yeah, they can, I'm on Twitter, at Bob Willett. At Bob Willett. Or you know what? My email address is pretty straightforward. Are your DMs open?

Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I have my DMs open, so I can get those frosty tips about all you guys. Oh, right. So I don't have to be following you for you to DM me. I will double check that, and I will turn it off if that is the case. But also, you know what? My email is very straightforward. It's just

Bob.Willett, my last name, as in Gillette, but with a w at gmail.com and you know the dot is optional right like that dot that's right you could just put yeah so it's just the last name is spelled just like gillette but bob willett i am gmail.com to talk talk to bob offer him a gig he's a quality individual and many people otherwise i love can vouch for him. Otherwise I'll be your next Uber driver. Or no, I think there could be something for you at TMDS. Now, there's a couple of radio, and I'm not playing the full things, but I'm about to play your final radio

jam, but here are a couple I thought of when you said radio jam. I'm not going to play it all, but I thought of this one right away. Of course. We'll give it a taste and then I'll bring it down. But there's so many radio songs. Because, of course, you could have gone with Rush, Spirit of Radio, and given a shout out to the CFNY days before.

Yes, of course. Seemed a little obvious. Seemed a little on the nose. Yeah, okay. That's all. You know, a little on the nose. Yeah, okay. That's all. A little on the nose. This is Mexican radio.

Do you remember the artist? You're on the way. Let's see if you can get it. And of course, Kramer listened to this song. Voodoo something, isn't it? Wall of Voodoo. Wall of Voodoo. Thank you. Sorry.

We'll give them the chorus and then I'll bring her down. Here it comes. I'm on the Mexican radio. Okay, and now something a little different. I thought of this song right away as well. That's some fine 80s synth right there.

Yes, sir. with a box that can rock the crowd. Walking down the street to the hardcore beat while my JVC vibrates the concrete. I'm sorry if you can't understand. Do you ever listen to a jam like this and think, oh, I miss that kind of rap? Well, it's funny you say that. I'm late to the game with Hip Hop Evolution on Netflix.

Speaking of Shad. Yeah, I'm late to the game on that. I'm kind of watching it right now while I wind down into my unemployment. Right. And I do some of that production. I mean, I love my

favorite band for the longest time was Digital Underground. We've talked about that. Yeah, I love it. Shock G. Yeah. Shock G and Money B.

Right. So I do and I especially like that. And again, I love Belle Biv Devoe as well, which had that. But not hip hop. That's not hip hop,

right? No, no, but it's New Jack Swhop. That's not hip-hop, right? No, but it's New Jack Swing. It's got a hip-hop element. There's rapping in it. I don't know if that makes it hip-hop. That's an interesting question. Is Nelly hip-hop? Some of it. Country Grammar is hip-hop.

I think you could argue that there's some stuff on Poison. But I had the Run DMC Raisin Hell cassette. I DMC Raisin Hell cassette. Oh, yes, yes. Love the Raisin Hell cassette. That was like our age. We're the similar age.

That's our introduction, basically. That and then the Beastie Boys with Licensed to Y'all. I can still remember being 10, 11 years old yelling, I'm proud to be black, y'all.

And that's a fact, y'all. And if you try to take what's mine, I'll take it back, y'all. It's like that. Yes. Yes. Yes.

That's a good radio track, for sure. All right. So this is LL Cool J Now let's get to Bingo Bobs Very similar production To the Well it would have been The same area right

Here we go To the Run DMC stuff It's my final one This again Not a known song But a cool song I'll put my baby on the radio He played it all day, I go, go, I go, go He liked to dance to it down in the streets

He said he loved me me but he loved the beach Fuckin' I said John I wrote it down I could see it there Darling you saw why I bought my baby a red radio He said he loved me but he had to go There you go. I don't think this gets any airplay. No, this would not be a jam. You couldn't call this a forgotten jam. However, the selector, you know,

I don't know if you looked up your wiki of the song, the selector is the artist. And the guy who gets involved with the specials later, it's a British ska track. It's a British ska track. This was reached number eight on the UK singles chart. So not a hit

here in North America at all. But the B side was too much pressure, which I think was covered by the specials. Okay. So yeah, this is that big ska scene. Big time. 1979 is the year. It's when the specials and English beat.

And you're like, you're in the bathroom. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah. And CFNY would have... They used to... I mean, Scott Turner says that was their thing

because they couldn't play... They would have totally played this stuff. They couldn't play Top 40 so they would play like UK Top 40? Yes. Because that was their way to play. That was part of their... Yeah, so that was part

of their condition of license, right? Right. Which doesn't really exist anymore. So, you know, what's interesting is like there's so... This band was together for the first couple years of 79 to 81

when this came out. There's been so many members of this band, and they all also crossed over with the beat and with the specials. I'm not an expert at all. For me, this is the kind of music you can put on, and very few people dislike it. It's just a great... They're great jams.

It's about radio, which is cool, to put on at a party in the background you know something called freaky trigger and i can't even tell you what that is for all i know that's some teenager's blog i have no idea but freaky trigger put this as their uh number 44 song uh their number number 44 on their top 100 songs of all time. Wow. On my radio by The Selector. British ska group The Selector. The Selector, yep. Well, you know what?

I'm glad you didn't pick all the obvious stuff like I would have done. This is good that you had some deep cuts in there. I wanted to change things up. I mean, I could do, I mean, anybody could throw together a list of, you know, songs with radio in the title, but we'll do something like that.

Could I steal this theme for a Pandemic Friday? By the way, I've been inviting you to all... I know you have. I know you have. Should I remove you from the invitation? No, do not. I'm going to show up one of these days. But I don't know the themes in advance.

I need to know these things. I get the invite, but you don't tell me. You don't have my email address, Bob? Come on. I get the invite, but you don't tell me. We keep it a secret so you can be surprised. But Bob, I'm sorry your contract has ended and that COVID has

effed up plans to find something more permanent and the Bell Media good on you for not burning any bridges. Everybody loves you and you're great. And I want you to be employed and be happy. Most importantly, maybe Robbie J's got something

in the chorus podcast department. You never know. I've J's got something in the Chorus podcast department. You never know. I've only spoken to the program director of Q and Edge, and the vice president, Ronnie. Shout out to Ronnie, of course. Ronnie, shout out to you. Ronnie, yes.

And yeah, we got to get you... Talk to them all, man. All the VPs know me. Everybody knows. Maybe Strombo needs some help with his Apple enterprise. You never know. We're going to find something for you.

You can be Humble and Fred's producer again if you want. Could you imagine? Well, let them know you're interested, and then they may send me my little note. Your services are no longer. You can get the yellow manila envelope. HR right next to you. Because every once in a while,

I book a guest on that show that i think is an amazing guest and i get a call or a note from freddie to say like this guy nobody wants this is this is not a good guest and it always shocks me but i'm not going to give a name until i stop recording then i'll tell you what i want to hear about it yeah all right all right so on that thanks for having me I really appreciate it. And the pleasure was all mine. And where am I here in this world? Oh, yes. And that. I can't remember those words. I've only said it 721 times.

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